[05:36] guten morgen meine herren [05:39] Guten abend Kilos [05:39] hehe [06:04] hey good morning [06:04] hi magespawn [06:04] hey yourself [06:22] horses eat it [06:23] or maybe that is hay [06:26] lol [06:26] morning Kilos magespawn [06:31] hmm... [06:57] magespawn: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJXtGtgXQh0 [07:06] ha ha ha superfly [07:06] brilliant [07:31] hello all [07:33] * chesedo thinks he might have found a new band that he can listen to [07:45] hi chesedo [08:02] chesedo: Relient K? [08:03] superfly: yip [08:03] chesedo: they're kinda old, actually. and their older stuff is better than their most recent stuff [08:05] superfly: saw that they are... it is weird how a lot of band's old stuff is better than newer ones [09:21] Hi Kilos you dont like e-mails hey? [09:22] Thks will let you know when Pieter can come over [09:22] haha you guessed [09:22] painful things and i get so many [09:22] take too much bandwidth? oh [09:22] np [09:22] no [09:22] too much reading [09:23] well if your popular youre it [09:23] its not popular its all the locos ive had to join to try get them going [09:23] trying to connect the tannie via my adsl, dlink exender almost R2 000 [09:23] 8 mailing lists i think [09:24] sjo [09:24] how far is she from you [09:24] about 55 metres [09:24] dlnk signal goes about 40 [09:25] eish [09:25] see if you can find someone that can make you an eth cable [09:25] I have one but its 30 metres [09:26] get another one [09:26] will have to cross a road [09:26] hehe [09:26] ai! [09:26] string it in the trees [09:26] but thats not a bad option, even if I have to dig a ditch and pipe it under the road [09:26] not on branches that move in the wind [09:27] or the aerial way can also work [09:27] doesnt she have a telkom line [09:27] perhaps I can get a connector and join 2 cables?Pity to waste 30 metresli [09:28] she does yes [09:28] i think bridges are quite cheap [09:28] but adsl line rent is expensive [09:28] ah [09:29] see, tell me this isnt easier than emails to and fro [09:29] is that what you call a ethernet joint, a bridge? [09:29] depends what you want to communicate [09:29] i think so [09:30] maybe you get just a joint thing [09:30] I dont pay you to fink, you must know... [09:30] you can join ethernet cable, although i prefer not to [09:30] bridges can take 4 cables [09:31] thks magespawn and hi [09:31] there is a gel filled connector called a scotch lock [09:31] hi Langjan [09:31] but then the bridges is out in the weather and needs power as well [09:31] it will be under roof, power? [09:32] this one has a power supply and a goodie like a fone charger [09:32] lemme look [09:32] ja [09:33] use that 30m cable so you can sit somewhere else as well [09:33] get one the right length [09:33] with some extra of course [09:34] for corners and sticking to wall so it looks neat [09:34] what price ethernet cabl per metre? [09:34] i have no idea [09:35] look here http://is.gd/YXPGGz [09:35] maybe 5 - 7 [09:35] jy moet weet geek...lmga [09:35] thks [09:35] but you can buy rolls at about 1.50 - 2 rand per metre [09:35] magespawn, and Wolfeyes [09:35] yw [09:35] Wolfeyes can give cable prices [09:35] :-) [09:37] Is there not a connector box with eth sockets both sides to connect? [09:37] i recently bought exterior cat5 with uv shielding for about R7/meter [09:38] Langjan: there is, but it would need to be kept dry [09:38] not a problem to keep dry [09:39] can put the joint in the ceiling [09:40] or under overhang and use silicone [09:40] it looks the same as the old connectors used to join telephone cable, just bigger to take the lan cable [09:40] you can buy joint from a matrix or any computer shop, haven't bought in ages, normal rj45 is about 2 each [09:40] rj45? [09:41] that is the connector on a lan cable [09:41] oh, ok thks [09:41] the clear plasctic doohickey on the end [09:42] ok another q while I have the geeks on the line plse [09:43] if I run the cable, will they be able to connect two computers that side? [09:43] a split? [09:45] then you will need a switch on the other side [09:45] 5 port ethernet switch [09:46] also available from matrix around R180 [09:47] something like http://www.dlink.com/uk/en/home-solutions/connect/switches/dgs-105-5-port-gigabit-ethernet-switch [09:50] ok many thanks [09:51] no problem [10:17] lol @ doohickey @ magespawn [10:19] sorry Langjan I was just on a call to a client. [10:20] magespawn: if you buy now and again at matrix you can push them lower for prices [10:30] Looks like these can work: http://www.takealot.com/ugreen-rj45-8p8c-network-coupler-keyston/PLID40361930 and http://www.takealot.com/tp-link-5-port-10-100mbps-mini-desktop-switch/PLID28720003 [10:31] np Wolfeyes I was having some lunch [10:32] getting some horse power in... [10:32] must check if eth cable can run underground and/or overhead (uv exposure) [10:32] yes gotta keep going [10:50] and if the cable is underground keeping it dry too [11:22] Kilos Langjan could also get external wireless ap, bt those tend to be rather pricey [11:22] /sbt/but [11:22] s/bt/but [11:29] Hi everyone [11:29] hi mazal [11:30] How goes ? [11:31] i think he is looking for the cheapest options magespawn . those peeps all retired there [11:31] hi mazal [11:33] sunny mazal [11:34] Kilos: figured just thought i would mention it, cable is much cheaper [11:34] * mazal spend money he didn't have again :( All thanx to eskom [11:34] what now mazal [11:34] power problems? [11:34] Had no power the whole day so went shopping. [11:35] Credit card still smoking [11:35] ai! [11:35] Hey my DING !!! ain't working [11:35] It didn't *ding* when you guys greeted [11:36] haha [11:36] mazal [11:36] mazal [11:36] turn up the volume [11:36] The highlight works , but not the ding when window is minimized [11:36] or untick the mute button [11:37] at least fixing this "ding" isn't going to cost you money [11:37] hahahaha well said bushtech [11:37] lol @ bushtech , indeed sir [11:37] Kilos,I give you 1 guess what I bought today [11:38] nono just tell me guessing requires thinking [11:38] satellite dish for sat sig? [11:38] 5 new games [11:38] THAT's gonna het your card smoking [11:38] eish [11:39] nee man! [11:39] and a backup console :P [11:39] you dont have time to play all those you have [11:39] eish [11:39] Is not my fault , I was bored [11:40] if you had taken a more expensive internet connection then you would have less to spend [11:40] I'm sure there's a support group for this [11:40] yes [11:40] but but.... [11:41] i saw on tv they had a program about compulsive buyers/shoppers [11:41] its a reckognised illness [11:41] hehe [11:41] recognised [11:41] I'm emosional shopper. When depressed or bored I shop [11:41] many females have that problem [11:42] buy a bucket of fruit next time and go sit in the parks and eat [11:43] Oh awesome !!! This one has offline multiplayer with bots !!! NIce :) [11:49] Is there a "minimize all windows" shortcut on Kubuntu ? [11:50] is this a quiz [11:52] "alt + f2" > "Global keyboard shortcuts" > "Kwin" > "Show desktop" [11:52] if there isn't a shortcut set you can set it there [11:53] if you right click the pager and go to "pager settings" - you can also set it so that clicking the current desktop in the pager minimizes everything [11:54] Nice , found it thank you MaNI [11:54] you on kde MaNI [11:54] It didn't have one associated so gave it one [11:54] yeah I'm a long time KDE user - even though they tested my patience quite a bit when kde 4 came out :p [11:54] The key here of course being me remembering what I made it lol [11:55] The alt f2 thing is nice , didn't know about that [11:55] It searches apps and docs , nice [11:55] it has all sorts of little plugins by the way - not just a run box [11:55] like you can use it as a quick calculator and stuff as well :p [11:56] Just tried that hehehehe [11:56] I am very new to KDE. [11:57] USed it for about a year now at work , but there it's just for email and docs [12:06] yeah, a bit different on a personal computer :p === jellie is now known as zipper [13:11] [13:14] hmm... [13:14] either that was a space, alt(and the number for space), enter key, or writting in white ... [13:15] writing in white you can highlight to read [13:16] only thing that highlights is then a single space [13:16] ya ya [13:16] was a space [13:17] he is just being clever again [13:17] be back later [13:54] haha [13:55] Kilos: you have good eyes [14:01] Hi Peeps \o/ [14:18] yeah [14:18] hi andrewlsd [14:38] :_) [14:38] :-) [14:38] hi Kilos [14:45] :) [14:50] cheerio. Hopefully will be online here a bit longer. [15:04] back again [15:07] Good evening every one! [15:09] hi pavlushka [15:09] Hello magespawn , how are you? [15:10] good and you? [15:11] doing good, thanks! [15:11] wbb [15:12] home time for me, good evening all [15:18] hi pavlushka [15:24] hi Langjan [15:24] what broke [15:24] hehe [15:30] Hi Kilos, you can relax, lmga we were at bowls and computer was sleeping, woke up with irc open. How you doing re visa? [15:31] im just busy looking for the mail addies where i got some reection last time [15:59] superfly when you have time can you be my editor again please [15:59] i want to make some waves but want to do it in a democratic way [16:32] superfly inetpro https://bin.snyman.info/mmmmjemy [17:02] i go eat [17:42] superfly it grew https://bin.snyman.info/mmmcw3j5 [17:53] Langjan jy nog hier? [17:53] sjoe [17:54] gonna rain [17:54] soort van, eet net gou [17:54] julle rol nie balle in die donker nie [17:54] soms ja, spreiligte [17:54] patry te veel dink ek [17:55] ett lekker oom [17:55] eet [17:55] ken nie eers vir Pat nie [17:55] dankie [17:55] party man [18:04] Kilos: which one is easier to read, [18:04] this https://bin.snyman.info/mmmnj6nn [18:04] or this https://bin.snyman.info/mmmcw3j5 ? [18:06] the first one of course [18:06] i dunno why the bin makes those long lines [18:07] when i blog i do it the same way and word wraps itself [18:07] now please use spacing and paragraphs when you want us to read stuff [18:07] Kilos: my point is not so much about the wrapping as it is about the paragraph spacing [18:08] if i write directly to th bin it might be better [18:08] nope, it won't [18:09] it was kinda paragraphed in kate [18:09] it doesn't do wrapping [18:09] nono thern ill use line feeds [18:09] then [18:09] in kate you can force wrapping bt choosing Tools | Apply Word Wrap [18:10] s/bt/by/ [18:10] and when i then take it to thes bin? [18:11] yes that works [18:11] ty grumpy [18:11] try it and see for yourself [18:11] i have [18:12] lekker [18:12] first impressions count [18:12] dankie oompie [18:12] and that has to end up in a mail [18:12] now [18:13] corrections etc to my wording will be helpful [18:13] Kilos: why? [18:13] Kilos: what are you asking them, and what do you hope to achieve? [18:13] because you my editor [18:14] i am asking because i get tired trying to do it all alone [18:14] and [18:14] i hope someone else other than belkie can find the time to help [18:14] she is very busy [18:15] Kilos: please note, when copying paragraphs with forced line breaks for wrapping you can expect weird results as the end result for the reader if you are not careful [18:15] and i hope to achive better quicker growth in ubuntu [18:15] i will make a point of watching that ty inetpro [18:16] and i also want to know if i have you guys support before i go knocking on big doors [18:16] same as with the membership meeting times [18:17] we have the 10pm now and its the main time used [18:17] but took lots of mails and frustration [18:17] and pro support [18:18] pro support? [18:18] yes dodo yours [18:18] i was ready to give up a few times [18:18] * inetpro not sure whether he can agree with everything he wrote [18:19] first of all, what mark are you overstepping even? [18:19] well those councils are kinda closed i think [18:20] only the lc has meetings in the open channel [18:20] cc has their own channel i think [18:20] you are free to have your own opinion [18:21] oh yes [18:21] but many wont like to hear it [18:21] it is still your opinion [18:22] oh [18:22] that thing with mhall [18:22] he says feel free to translate it to any language [18:23] hi pavlushka [18:24] Hello Kilos !, it was a power cut, :| [18:24] ai! [18:25] Hello every one! [18:25] Where's the guy with a Hat & Beard????? [18:26] so Kilos, when you say "Please forgive me", you really mean that? [18:26] pavlushka: good morning [18:26] lol [18:27] not really but thats to soften the hardekwas outjies [18:27] inetpro: what's your timezome???? [18:27] pavlushka: I'm from another planet [18:27] it looks like!!! [18:27] haha [18:28] Maaz diplomat [18:28] A diplomat is a person who can tell others to go to hell in such a nice way that they look forward to the trip [18:28] lol [18:29] Kilos: are you looking forward to the trip already? [18:30] inetpro: yes here is 0025 hours but in your place it should be 8.30 PM, but morning??? [18:31] may be its your planet's rule!!!!! [18:31] pavlushka: someone stole my watch now I have more time [18:32] oh my inetpro is someone going to do that to me [18:32] more like - a diplomat is a person who can tell others to go to hell in such a long winded annoying non-committal way that people would rather thake that trip than hear them talk for another second [18:32] *take [18:32] haha [18:33] Kilos: I was just wondering about the context of that lookup on Maaz [18:33] nono man [18:33] i have to act the diplomat [18:34] ok [18:34] thats why i ask for help [18:34] MaNI: he needs your help then [18:34] hahaha remember inetpro [18:35] what MaNI said is what worked on popey [18:35] he gave up in the end [18:35] heh [18:36] oh inetpro and belkie supports me [18:37] and agrees with what i say [18:38] Kilos: you had some conversation with popey? and he had to agree with you? [18:39] haha yeah 2 weeks of emails back and forth [18:39] he got tired first [18:40] * chesedo- thinks it may not always be about wearing someone out, but rather to explain it in a way that touches hearts [18:41] yes so climb in and help chesedo- [18:41] and drop the tail [18:41] nick chesedo === chesedo- is now known as chesedo [18:41] hehe [18:41] wb chesedo [18:41] ty chesedo [18:41] lol [18:42] have another beer [18:42] ... and do not really know must of what is talked about [18:42] ai! [18:43] https://bin.snyman.info/mmmnj6nn [18:43] nee sies oom, bier nie vir my :-P [18:43] mooi seun [18:43] chesedo: please talk to the real chesedo and get him up to date with happenings here [18:44] chesedo: btw, did you get your prize yet? [18:44] who knows inetpro maybe with some big brains working together they can somehow link fb and irc [18:44] same as mattermost [18:45] Kilos: please no [18:45] well give ideas then to sort the fb lp prob [18:45] no i read it (btw reads better when clicking 'raw') just did not take it in (head might be too full) [18:46] I rest my case [18:46] no man [18:46] Kilos: no, I mean why are you e-mailing the council? what are they going to do, what are you asking them to do [18:46] dont escape a sinking ship like rats do [18:46] legibility is important [18:47] oh superfly im asking then to come up with some ideas on how to overcome the problem [18:47] inetpro fixit [18:48] Kilos: do they care? do they really care? [18:48] no [18:48] well i would hope so otherwise the community spirit is dying as well [18:49] inetpro: have been without net since yesterday (will have to catch up loads :P)... and no still waiting for an official email about the prize [18:49] exactly [18:49] Kilos: no, they don't [18:49] Kilos: no, they don't [18:49] ai! [18:49] haha [18:49] um, who voted for these guys? [18:49] how do i fix that [18:50] Kilos: you are the community [18:50] eish [18:50] eish, my lag [18:50] mine only 236 ms [18:50] superfly: wat is vout met jou lag (stem seer) :P [18:51] mine is only 16 ms [18:51] I win [18:51] well then inetpro its up to me to rock the boat not so [18:51] * chesedo sees a full circle coming... [18:51] chesedo: bwahahahaha [18:51] mine is currently 13s [18:52] sjoewhat are you eishing about then [18:52] Kilos: sending and e-mail to the CC is not rocking the boat [18:52] wow, anyway gotta go later guys... [18:53] that's telling the rock to move [18:53] make that 30 [18:53] well if they dont do something about it then it will be [18:53] oh wow 30 secs [18:53] thats vary bad [18:53] very [18:53] and i want to attend their meeting [18:54] 44 seconds... [18:54] eina [18:54] mine is 0.2s [18:54] * inetpro can see superfly timing out in a few secs [18:54] cheers chesedo [18:54] sleep tight [18:54] good night chesedo ! [18:55] adsl can suck at times [18:55] good night chesedo [18:57] Hi superfly ! [18:58] inetpro i think i must leave the last sentence out [18:58] the one before thanks for all the hard work [18:59] hi pavlushka [18:59] i need to get miss muffet to sleep, later [18:59] So you are not timed out!!!. [18:59] later superfly !!! [19:11] inetpro so now youve given me lessons in mailing can you sort that mail for me so i can get the ball rolloing [19:11]