[01:08] <mwfoshee> I am having trouble setting up my presonus 1818vsl in a nutshell the common error from message log in jack is Mon Apr 18 20:07:52 2016: ERROR: JackEngine::XRun: client = PulseAudio JACK Sink was not finished, state = Running
[01:08] <mwfoshee> Mon Apr 18 20:07:52 2016: ERROR: JackAudioDriver::ProcessGraphAsyncMaster: Process error
[01:09] <mwfoshee> sorry, I guess my last message was to long.
[01:09] <mwfoshee> I'm having trouble with my presonus 1818vsl
[12:14] <Guest35377> hi
[12:14] <zequence> Guest35377: Hello
[12:15] <Guest35377> will there be an ubuntu-studio for the rpi3?
[12:16] <Guest35377> i've seen mate, xubuntu an lubuntu 16.04 for the rpi2/3, but no studio ...?
[12:21] <zequence> Guest35377: Think all of those are done outside of the Ubuntu project, meaning it's not done inside the actual teams
[12:21] <zequence> Haven't heard of an initiative for Ubuntu Studio
[14:21] <OvenWerks> Guest35377: There are some short comings on the Rpi when it comes to audio. The audio system is not irq based and getting good low latency operation is possible, but difficult. Not an out of the box experience for sure. We certainly don't have the expertice to support audio on the RPi.
[14:25] <sirriffsalot> OvenWerks, trying a normal +RW CD helped on the first try :P
[14:40] <Guest35377> OvenWerks, i downloaded http://phillw.net/isos/pi2/lubuntu-16.04-rc-desktop-armhf-raspberry-pi.img.xz. after "rpi-update" i am on 4.4+. will try that with external soundcards like Focusrite Scarlet and dvd-recorders ...
[14:42] <OvenWerks> Guest35377: you try searching the linux audio users mailing list archives for audio on the Pi as well. (maybe LAD too) I seem to remember some threads about that.
[14:42] <OvenWerks> sirriffsalot: I have found my writer is sensitive to media as well.
[14:43] <sirriffsalot> OvenWerks, Only used the writer now as a favour :P
[15:08] <Guest35377> OvenWerks, what does "LAD" means?
[15:10] <OvenWerks> Linux Audio Developers
[15:13] <OvenWerks> also look at http://wiki.linuxaudio.org/wiki/raspberrypi
[15:13] <Guest35377> scarlet is working fine on ubuntu studio. my questin was/is, will there be a ubuntu studio for the rpi3? i know, musician never got money, therfore i thought it will be a nice alternative ...
[15:19] <Kimryd> I can't answer your question, but what is performance on a rpi like in the context of audio?
[15:19] <OvenWerks> Guest35377: Not an ISO no, I don't know how well the studio meta packages would work on the rpi either. but that would be the way to go. There are some applications (like Ardour) that are not likely to run on a Pi (even though there is an armhf version) just because of memory size. Jack is problematic as well.
[15:21] <Guest35377> I've still seen, that there are apps unter lubuntu 16.04 by "sudo apt search studio"
[15:22] <Guest35377> will try them ...
[15:23] <Kimryd> I can't see it going very far, mind you I'm pretty dependent on FabFilter plugins and ozone in particular
[15:24] <OvenWerks> Guest35377: Here is a thread on some peoples thoughts from LAU: http://lists.linuxaudio.org/pipermail/linux-audio-user/2015-March/100993.html There are some other threads too.
[15:25] <Guest35377> OvenWerks, 2015 is too old, we are on 4.4 / 4.5 ...
[15:27] <OvenWerks> yes, but the problems are hardware not software for the most part. There are better platforms for audio in the arm world is what this is saying.
[15:28] <Guest35377> OvenWerks, yes, hardware, and if i am right, hardware is kernel depending, isn't it?
[15:28] <OvenWerks> I am using a Pi as the heart of an OSC (maybe MIDI) based control surface. But because it is really just a fancy UI, it is no lowlatency or RT-ish or anything like that
[15:29] <OvenWerks> to an extent, Hardware limits tend to be hard limits.
[15:30] <Guest35377> OvenWerks, cool, i asked that some minutes ago in #lubuntu. rt, low-latency or normal kernel ... how to figure out or patch it ...
[15:30] <OvenWerks> for example, some of the digital mixers around even with 40bit DSP do not sound as nice as some 32bit DSP. This is a hardware case because the 40bits are INT math and the 32 bit is float.
[15:32] <OvenWerks> (then there are some that are 64bit float over kill ;)
[15:33] <OvenWerks> Guest35377: patching for low latency is just a switch. RT is more invasive
[15:39] <Guest35377> OvenWerks, how to i know, what the rpi2/3-kernel is? "uname -r" only shows "4.4.7-v7+"
[15:41] <OvenWerks> uname -a shows a little more... but I think you can assume iot is the same as the generic in intel terms
[15:42] <Guest35377> uname -a
[15:42] <Guest35377> Linux zwerg3 4.4.7-v7+ #877 SMP Sun Apr 17 12:48:36 BST 2016 armv7l armv7l armv7l GNU/Linux
[15:45] <Guest1506> as i said, "uname -a" Linux zwerg3 4.4.7-v7+ #877 SMP Sun Apr 17 12:48:36 BST 2016 armv7l armv7l armv7l GNU/Linux, it is not helpfully ..
[15:58] <OvenWerks> Guest1506: the config file seems to be in /usr/src/linux-headers-*/arch/arm/Kconfig
[16:03] <OvenWerks> Hmm, except rasperian does include that.
[16:04] <OvenWerks> probably need to DL the headers package. May be easier to do the compile on another machine for the Pi anyway.
[16:04] <OvenWerks> *does not
[16:04] <OvenWerks> basically the lowlatency kernel has preempt set.
[17:45] <james1138> Hello all. Is Kino the only video editing software that handles digitial video (DV)?  I have old VHS tapes to make into MP4 files. Or is the a GUI for dvgrab?
[18:01] <sirriffsalot> james1138, did you try ardour?
[18:02] <OvenWerks> sirriffsalot: for video?
[18:02] <sirriffsalot> OvenWerks, it edits video now does it not?
[18:03] <OvenWerks> sirriffsalot: no, it has a video monitor for editing audio to fit the video.
[18:03] <OvenWerks> The video is synced to the audio.
[18:04] <sirriffsalot> OvenWerks, oh, jesus... sorry, I knew that... Even tried it myself *facepalm*
[18:13] <OvenWerks> DVSwitch http://dvswitch.alioth.debian.org/wiki/ is about the closest thing to a GUI for dvgrab.
[18:15] <OvenWerks> james1138: ^^^ this is different from https://github.com/Voley/DVSwitch which is only a gui tool to make guis :P
[18:17] <sirriffsalot> james1138, sorry about that, lol
[18:17] <OvenWerks> last edit end of 2014
[18:18] <sakrecoer> james1138: kdenlive can import DV tapes
[18:19] <sakrecoer> james1138: i wouldn't know how to import VHS tho...
[18:19] <sakrecoer> but yeah, kdenlive detects my camera via firewire
[18:21] <james1138> I have a old ADS Tech DVD Xpress capture device (USB) in addition to my trusty old VCR player.
[18:30] <sakrecoer> james1138: this http://www.desktop-video-guide.com/capture-video-dvd-xpress.html ?
[18:31] <james1138> Yes. That is what I own.
[18:31] <sakrecoer> if it is, not sure you will find drivers for it on linux. but i haven't investigated further... you could bring your vhs to a photolab, that is what they now that there aren't too many photo jobs: converting formats and scaning
[18:32] <james1138> The software appears to work okay under Wine.
[18:35] <sakrecoer> well, in that case i would skip the DV part, and make DVD/VCD/SVCD straight away
[18:35] <sakrecoer> that way you have the disc as backup, and then you rip your own disc to mp4
[18:35] <sakrecoer> ^ james1138
[18:43] <james1138> Humm...
[18:45] <zequence> james1138: wine and usb does not work very well though
[18:45] <zequence> ..even if the application itself does
[18:45] <zequence> I've tried using usb video capture devices, and was able to get one to work somewhat. No luck getting anything useful on file though
[18:50] <sakrecoer> james1138: https://opensource.com/life/15/6/VHS-conversion-MP4-Linux
[18:51] <sakrecoer> james1138: https://linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Easycap
[18:51] <sakrecoer> james1138: http://forum.videohelp.com/threads/248203-Converting-VHS-to-DVD-under-Linux-HOWTO
[18:55] <james1138> Thanks Sakerecore! I saved the last link as a PDF file
[18:55] <james1138> Sorry!  Sakrecore!
[18:56] <zequence> james1138: Use tab to autocomplete, depending on hour irc client
[18:56] <zequence> the TAB key, that is
[18:56] <zequence> and s/hour/your
[18:57] <sakrecoer> no problem james1138 :)
[18:59] <sakrecoer> james1138: i think the linuxtv link is good to keep also, to identify devices that will work in linux
[18:59] <sakrecoer> oh, well the forum.videohelp.com links to that wiki  anyways :)
[19:00] <james1138> The one link said "Openshot"... does OpenShot work with DV?
[19:03] <OvenWerks> james1138: I see no indication that openshot imports anything other files
[19:03] <OvenWerks> (as of 14.04)
[19:05] <james1138> Ok
[19:11] <sakrecoer> i know that blender and kdenlive can handle raw .dv files. but i only kdenlive that can communicate with a DV camcorder through firewire...
[19:12] <sakrecoer> but if you want to import VHS, you shouldn't need to bother about DV files... but then again, i'm in no way an expert in this
[19:14] <james1138> I just found this... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_video_editing_software
[19:16] <sakrecoer> i'd recommend kdenlive.
[19:16] <sakrecoer> personaly i prefere blender, but it takes a bit to learn it
[19:16] <sakrecoer> kdenlive is fairly straight forwardm whilst having some very nice features.
[19:17] <sakrecoer> ptivi is very straight forward, but also rather minimal
[19:18] <james1138> OpenShot seems to not have many KDE dependancies
[19:19] <sakrecoer> right openshot! i almost forgot :) it's nice too, kindof basic but very nice. gotta love the effects they provide
[19:20] <sakrecoer> openshot and pitivi are great tools to familirize your self with video editing.
[19:24] <sakrecoer> looking at pitivi, it seems to have come a long way since last time i checked.
[19:24] <zequence> I use openshot mostly, but I do very simple editing
[19:24] <zequence> Yes, pitivi is probably worth checking out these days
 I am just converting VHS tapes zequence...  not re-editing Star Wars.
[19:26] <zequence> james1138: Well, you can't import using openshot though, from what I've understood
[19:27] <zequence> There are a few apps that can do that. Some of them work either with a webcam or a usb video in tool. As long as the usb thing is recognized in Ubuntu
[19:27] <zequence> That's the whole issue really
[19:27] <zequence> Not which application you use
[19:28] <zequence> Simples is just to try an application that is known to work with video capture
[19:30] <james1138> Sorry all
[19:30] <james1138> Sorry about that
[20:27] <welder> salve
[20:27] <Guest22344> c'è qualcuno?
[20:28] <sakrecoer> !italiano | Guest22344
[20:29] <Guest22344> hi, i'm new on ubuntu and i wanted to know if there is a software like fl studio or ableton that i can download to produce music
[20:31] <welder_> hi, someone there?
[20:34] <sakrecoer> welder_: yes are you Guest22344 asking about FL clone?
[20:34] <welder_> yes
[20:35] <welder_> there is the possibility to own  a softwar like fl studio or ableton on ubuntu?
[20:37] <sakrecoer> yes, lmms
[20:37] <sakrecoer> it is very similar to FL
[20:38] <welder_> ty, man. where can i find it? on the store? and it's name is only lmms?
[20:39] <welder_> oh, i finded it ty
[20:39] <sakrecoer> yes, you will find in the software center. if you run ubuntustudio it is in the audio workflow
[20:40] <sakrecoer> :) anytime welder_
[20:41] <welder_> so gentle, very happy to joined the ubuntu family ty again
[20:48] <sirriffsalot> welder_, you have a long but fascinating journey ahead of you... (as do we all :) welcome friend)
[20:49] <welder_> ty all
[20:50] <sirriffsalot> Too soon?
[20:51] <sakrecoer> well put sirriffsalot :)
[20:51] <sirriffsalot> *he'll be back*
[20:51] <sakrecoer> :)
[20:51] <sirriffsalot> sakrecoer, thanks hehe
[20:52] <sakrecoer> it was teamwork ;) rubbing in dat ubuntu love smoothly :D
[21:03] <james1138> Hello again
[21:06] <sakrecoer> hi
[21:28] <james1138> later all