[07:19] yofel, sgclark: FYI ubuntu appstream data for some reason has a weird dolphin icon `appstreamcli get org.kde.dolphin.desktop --details|grep Icon` -> gwenview /var/lib/app-info/icons/ubuntu-xenial-universe/64x64/dolphin_system-file-manager.png [07:19] I don't know more than that unfortunately [07:44] yofel, sgclark: probably this http://markmail.org/message/3fmqutpjz3jedw3o so not much to be done right nwo [07:44] lead me to realize this http://markmail.org/message/vhz5duiiiye6ah36 which is also not something that can be solved right now [07:44] oh yeah I didn't mention this... all of this means icons in discover are fishy ;) [07:45] http://imgur.com/Rj8im7p [08:27] cyphermox: thank you very much for looking at ubiquity! === ovidiu is now known as ovidiu-florin === ovidiu-florin is now known as ovidiuflorin [09:10] : humans, I've changed my IRC nick to be the same as telegram. [09:10] : hint: it's missing the - [09:11] :D [09:16] !testers [09:16] Help is needed in #kubuntu-devel. Please ping Riddell, yofel, soee, Tm_T, shadeslayer, BluesKaj, James147, Quintasan, lordievader, shrini, tester56, parad1se, mamarley, alket, SourBlues, sgclark, neo31, vip, mparillo for information [09:17] New release candidate is up: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/359/builds [09:43] Howdy folks [09:47] Howdy BluesKaj. This morning's release candidate (http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/359/builds) dumped me straight into a live session without the try / install option first. [09:48] On physical HW. I will test in a VM in two or three hours. [09:48] another RC will be coming with a bunch of core fixes + akonadi first run fix [09:48] TY yofel [09:53] so whern can we dump the staging and landing ppas and just rely on the default repos? [09:54] when [09:55] or should I have removed them already? [10:03] well, they're gone now [10:04] they should already not make much of a difference.. [10:04] clivejo: what was the state with settings? [10:05] yofel, ok thanks [10:08] * ahoneybun has staging from sgclark as well [10:28] : thanks @ovidiuflorin looks like it works now [10:32] yofel: cant figure out how to do it the "correct" way [10:34] If I create /etc/xdg/kickoffrc and add the favourites there it seems to work for new users [10:34] but Sho_ informs me this is the wrong way to do it [11:19] clivejo: please just do what works, has to be up today if we still want that on the release images [11:21] I probably wont get anything done on it until this evening, with good weather Ive a lot to do outside and Im only inside grabbing some lunch and making phone call [11:58] clivejo: @ last comment here [11:58] https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=347602 [11:58] KDE bug 347602 in Updater "Update Manager systray icon and info still reports pending updates after updates applied" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] [11:58] we have it working in Xenial right ? [11:58] for me it works as it should now [12:13] Fixed in xenial, yes. And as the complaining user rightfully points out, not fixed in anything earlier [12:14] heh [12:14] can not even keep up with this release [12:15] clivejo: if you can just commit that kickerrc I can clean up the rest of the package and upload. [13:03] sgclark: just create a new file ( /etc/xdg/kickoffrc ) in that file put the contents of http://paste.ubuntu.com/15947501/ [13:04] that should then build the following KickOff menu for new users - http://s31.postimg.org/qy02ciul7/Screenshot_20160420_140018.png [13:05] clivejo: ok thanks [13:05] gonna give one last effort at fixing that folderview [13:05] Ive been looking too, there is absolutely no information I can find for plasma 5 [13:06] seriously need some distro guides [13:06] go to the shiny new distrio ML and sream DOCS [13:06] I swapped dolpin for Quazzel [13:06] *scream [13:07] hope everyones happy with those apps [13:07] as long as you don't mean you swapped quassel in the xml, yes [13:07] I had Quaseel in the favourite apps [13:07] and got shouted at [13:08] and forgot doplin [13:08] so I swapped them [13:08] heh [13:08] the app list is fine I think [13:08] Wait Kubuntu comes with Quassel again? I thought it had switched back to Konversation. [13:08] mamarley: it does NOT [13:09] I didn't think so, but what clivejo said confused me. [13:10] mamarley: I was trying to build a default fav list [13:10] and I asked for help with it [13:10] I thought quassel was default, but I was wrong [13:10] Ah, OK. [13:10] and I missed dolphin [13:11] this is the list Ive asked sgclark to include - http://s31.postimg.org/qy02ciul7/Screenshot_20160420_140018.png [13:11] Looks good :) [13:11] its just for new users [13:12] I know [13:12] as the default fav list is very bland [13:13] I was looking into adding the Kubuntu logo as the Kickoff icon, but that seems to be unpopular so I gave up on that [13:13] no point wasting time adding something people dont want! [13:14] Indeed. [13:14] even if I think its pretty! [13:14] * yofel wonders if khelpcenter should really be there.... [13:14] is there another help factility? [13:15] I looked at like 5 pages, and 4 were either broken, looked weird or had misleading information (Ctrl+Q does NOT list your activities...) [13:15] no [13:15] yeah it is quite broken currently [13:15] an embarrasment really lol [13:16] makes me think I need to go back to documentation, but then I remember I have not enough hours in the day to do more. [13:16] if that dosen't improve we might want to replace that with a web link to docs.kubuntu.org [13:16] maybe we can do that now? [13:16] clivejo: I like the idea of the Kubuntu logo, but when I started paying attention the vision of Kubuntu was to not unnecessarily change upstream defaults. Now that we have had some turnover, I think the KC can re-visit that, but I think it is a bit late now. [13:16] cause docs.kubuntu.org is better? [13:16] which ofc. doesn't help offline usecases [13:17] oh [13:17] yeah [13:17] there is that [13:17] kubuntu-logo is fine, as long as both light and dark breeze look good with it. [13:17] maybe some of our guys could contribute to that project [13:18] well this is what my dark breeze looks like with kubuntu logo - http://s3.postimg.org/3ukpbnykj/Kick_Off2.png [13:19] Im actually keeping it [13:19] IIRC as long as it uses docbook nobody WANTS to contribute to it [13:19] ah [13:19] dunno what to suggest, for new users a Help guide is pretty essential in my view [13:20] and I haven't seen Darkwing around in ages, he was the last real maintainer of our kubuntu khelpcenter docs. And the later attempts at generating that never really worked out [13:20] when I first came to Kubuntu it was in the menu [13:22] but through plasma 5 the favourites list seems to have got smaller and smaller [13:22] I think theres only two on it now, browser and settings [13:22] yeah. It's one of the things that suffers from there not being an official "KDE Release" anymore, only random software pieces that distros are supposed to patch together [13:24] heh I was suppose to take over docbook for kubuntu, you all kinda got me a bit distracted [13:24] yeah, I know that feeling :D [13:25] the way things are moving youd need a full time team working on docs [13:26] probably need some kind of version control too [13:26] well most of should go upstream [13:27] anyways, the orchard isnt going to mow itself [13:42] yofel: sorry it took so long [13:43] yofel: it's still going to need some more love though, I'm not that good at QT... there's definite room for improvement [13:47] "not crashing" will have to do for now, but we'll have some SRUs to do so 16.04.1 can really be recommended [13:52] hmm, suddenly some webstes aren't rendering properly looks like a flash problem, but I can't be sure, http://www.theweathernetwork.com/ca/weather/ontario/ottawa [13:57] hello everyone here [14:04] cyphermox: sorry to ask you, but would you by any chance have time to mangle this into ubiquity? https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-devel/2016-April/010350.html [14:04] If not, should I make a debdiff on a bug and ping the release team? (I only will have time for this in a couple hours) [14:04] (ubiquity doesn't chroot when editing the sddm auto login config) [14:05] I suppose we can probably squeeze it in (since we're fixing casper shortly, and that might require a respin) [14:05] could you bring it up on #ubuntu-release? [14:05] ok [14:07] if you have a debdiff, that would help too, since I'm not sure I understand what the patch is [14:07] this needs a fix in user-setup and a ubiquity update [14:07] (the file comes from user-setup) [14:09] the patch is in plain diff format, so yeah, that'll need redoing [16:03] sgclark: did you get kubuntu-settings patched up? [16:03] no still messing about with folderview === nodoubleg is now known as nodoubleg-lunch === nodoubleg-lunch is now known as nodoubleg === alvesadrian is now known as adrian [19:01] : @Yofel any idea how to fix the doc server? [19:05] @athoneycutt what's the problem? [19:06] : it is saying it is missing something from the theme [19:07] oh, during the build? [19:07] : yea let me get the error [19:08] : mportError: No module named sphinx_bootstrap_theme [19:08] : I [19:08] : ImportError: No module named sphinx_bootstrap_theme [19:08] : only thing I can think of is that the theme was dropped but twitter is using bootstrap still [19:08] sounds somewhat familiar [19:09] : yea I want to finish the changes from Google Code in and get some new screenshots from 5.5.5 hopefully [19:09] what exactly are you running? [19:09] and where? [19:09] : make html in the source [19:10] : /home/kubuntu/docs/kubuntu-manual [19:11] I get this: https://paste.kde.org/p9un7fbot [19:11] looks fine? [19:12] : weird permission error? [19:12] you *are* running that as 'kubuntu', right? [19:12] : as me? [19:12] : https://paste.kde.org/pbm21ji71 [19:12] : opps [19:12] ah yeah, that won't work [19:12] : I don't know that user's pw [19:12] sudo -u kubuntu -i [19:12] and it'll work [19:12] : just mine [19:13] with that sudo command you only need yours [19:13] : yep thanks [19:13] : @Yofel [19:16] : clivejo can you help me test a mic? [19:16] : BBB room 11 [19:16] : *1 [19:25] : @Yofel any idea how to send screenshots to that server? [19:25] : scp is giving me permission denied [19:26] hm, scp into your account and then copy I guess. Or you could add your ssh key to the kubuntu user [19:27] : scp into my account? [19:27] : sudo scp KickOff_16-04.png ahoneybun@docs.kubuntu.org:/home/kubuntu/docs/kubuntu-manual/source/images/xenial [19:27] : this is the command I';m using atm [19:28] : maybe kubuntu@docs.kubuntu.org? [19:35] Hi Folks [19:35] : heyo [19:35] I've seen how busy it has been here today [19:35] : anyone alt+tab working? [19:35] I've been frantic at work, but am home now [19:38] : sick_rimmit are you on Telegram? [19:47] No IRC right now [19:50] : missing some letters: http://imgur.com/1PI75Lq [19:53] clivejo: Muon got release tagged 5 days ago, carlo did [19:53] it [19:54] sick_rimmit: I know, thats what we pushed to the archive [19:55] I got an email, for my upload to PPA, but that was prior to the Release tag [19:55] he bumped libqapt and muon for us [19:55] Anyway [19:55] So is it in LTS, do I need to repack ? [19:55] did we miss it [19:55] er [19:55] I miss it [19:55] its in the archive [19:55] !info muon xenial [19:56] muon (source: muon): package manager for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:5.6.0-0ubuntu1 (xenial), package size 337 kB, installed size 2018 kB [19:56] That's excellent news [19:56] dunno about that [19:56] Thank you, clivejo you took care of it [19:56] needs a lot of work [19:57] I'm happy to repackage, sort the diffs out etc... [19:58] appstream, snappy suport etc [19:58] Will have to be on Ricks schedule, but otherwise [19:58] properly ported to KF5 and QML interface [19:58] I'm not worrying too much about that yet.. [19:59] Carlo wants to work on KF5 and QML [19:59] ovidiuflorin: Is going to work on it too [20:00] Just wanted to ensure that it got into archive, so folks can install [20:00] it's an important component for dev's [20:02] I agree [20:16] valorie: Good job on the Party2 Review news item, that's a really good article now [20:16] glad you like it! ovidiuflorin fixed it after I made my pass, though [20:17] anybody working on a release text? [20:17] I'd like to help, but will be traveling tomorrow [20:17] : not atm [20:17] : was working on the docs [20:17] : still need to move pictures over there [20:18] : /me does not like the outdated one [20:18] good move, ahoneybun [20:18] having docs ready for release is important [20:18] Traditionally the release text was never on the wiki (that was reserved for alphas and betas), but was a link to kubuntu.org/news [20:18] mparillo: exactly, a release should def. be on our server, not the wiki [20:19] although we can cadge a great deal of the text from the beta release text [20:19] : yea that is tru [20:19] : @Valoriez most of the work from Google Code in is in [20:20] : just need some new screenshots, need to found out how to do that [20:22] : @Valoriez http://docs.kubuntu.org/welcome.html [20:22] : release version and date is ready [20:22] If you fire me a bunch of bullet points I can draft something [20:23] perhaps valorie could sort the grammar and spelling, once I have put the narrative together [20:23] * sick_rimmit calls kate for assistance [20:23] : I can do that if need be [20:24] * sick_rimmit switches output device to verbose, and begins writing [20:24] sick_rimmit: look at the beta announcement; most everything we need should be there [20:24] : yea not much of that needs changing [20:24] : but do mention Muon is back! [20:25] YES [20:25] that's a big victory for us [20:25] and KDE as a whole imo [20:25] : awesome stuff everyone [20:25] also Discover is better too [20:26] ahoneybun: docs are looking good, at least on the surface [20:27] : on the surface? [20:28] On http://docs.kubuntu.org/docs/support.html it mentions IRC, but does not give the channel name. [20:30] ahoneybun: I meant the landing page [20:30] I've not had a chance to go through page by page [20:30] So you have to go back to the contribute page. [20:30] : http://docs.kubuntu.org/docs/contribute.html [20:31] : yea I should refer to the new IRC page @ovidiuflorin made [20:31] are we withdrawing the docs from the kde wiki? [20:31] : withdrawing? [20:31] removing [20:32] : changes that were made from the userbase wiki are moved to the docs site [20:32] valorie: any reply from Flames_in_Paradise (ellisistfroh) ? [20:32] ah, got it [20:32] : the wiki is so others can easy make changes [20:33] oh, good [20:33] that was my idea from the start, and I'm glad we can still make that work [20:33] clivejo: never an email make to me, no [20:34] but he did file a lp bug which we fixed [20:34] Bug 1557816 [20:34] bug 1557816 in Kubuntu Website "Content refers to unsupported versions of Kubuntu & exposes escaped DVD-DL link" [Low,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1557816 [20:35] yofel: your autologin fix should be in the next respin [20:35] : @va [20:36] Are we releaseing with Plasma 5.6 [20:36] no [20:36] : @Valoriez I would like a script to pull the changes but it works [20:36] 5.5.5 [20:36] OK Cool [20:37] lucky to have got that in! [20:37] only for sgclark and yofel working their backsides off! [20:37] love me [20:37] they're awesome [20:37] : @athoneycutt script can be done [20:37] but we're going to grow this team [20:38] : ping me sometime and I can make that for you [20:38] hopefully we can get plasma 5.6 and the new applications asap after release [20:38] LOL [20:38] : the issue is that they are putting in things that only work in the wiki not sphinx [20:38] ^^^^ /me/em/ [20:38] sick_rimmit: amen! [20:38] Lovem em [20:38] not [20:38] love me [20:38] Doh!! [20:38] I think sgclark and yofel will be taking some well earned time off! [20:38] : meeeh.. we can convert them [20:39] : I've set up a TG-IRC sync for the Kdevelop channel. Anyone cares to join? [20:43] no rest for the wicked heh. slavedrivers. [20:43] : /me hugs sgclark and yofel [20:43] but I have some KDE CI stuff higher in que. but we will get to it when we get to it. [20:44] : are you guys going to Munich in may? [20:44] have to create the git branches inLP first. [20:44] Not I. [20:44] haven't decided yet [20:45] mparillo: better? http://docs.kubuntu.org/docs/support.html [20:45] : @Sick_Rimmit we're in BBB room 1 if your free [20:46] : who's we? [20:46] : clive and me [20:50] OK here is the draf [20:50] t [20:50] https://www.kubuntu.org/?p=2630&preview=true [20:50] : we can't see that [20:50] I have not proofed as I have to wait an hour before reading my work [20:51] otherwise I don't see the errors [20:51] : committment [20:51] It needs some imagery too [20:51] : " who continue " [20:52] : space and missing s [20:52] : Plasma Discover = Muon Discover? [20:52] : "what can you expect in this latest release" colon at the end [20:52] OK, so please go ahead and edit, amend, add, subtract etc... [20:52] !info plasma-dsicover xenial [20:52] Package plasma-dsicover does not exist in xenial [20:53] : "e to choose" (from) [20:53] !info plasma-discover xenial [20:53] plasma-discover (source: plasma-discover): Utility for browsing, installing, and removing applications. In component universe, is optional. Version 5.6.2-1ubuntu1 (xenial), package size 75 kB, installed size 290 kB [20:53] : put it in a notes.kde.org so we can collaborate [20:53] OK we'll however is doing the marketing and naming for Plasma, etc... maybe need to think about name changes and impacts [20:54] please change as appropriate [20:54] by all means please, do [20:55] I'm tight for time, have to go in a few minutes [20:55] : Rick, if you are editing, we can't edit at the same tiem [20:55] so I just wanted to get the verbose bits out [20:55] No editing from me [20:55] : do you have the editor open? [20:56] It's a rough start, and I hope it helps [20:56] 2 secs [20:56] I typing to you [20:56] anyone would think I had a multi-tasking operating system here [20:57] : it's not the os [20:57] : your ISP is the problem :P [20:57] OK an out of edit mode [20:57] he he# [20:57] I know, its dreadful [20:57] : ok, I'll have a go now [20:57]