[02:15] <citizenruin> whats up
[02:16] <citizenruin> is kbuntu more stable then xubuntu
[02:20] <kepa> xfce is the most stable desktop environment
[02:20] <kepa> still using gtk2
[02:21] <kepa> enough said
[02:30] <markc> liftoff -1  :)
[02:34] <markc> re kate 15.12.1 when using sftp kio... whenever I got to open a new file the filename/ is appended to the path which produces a popup warning saying the file or path does not exist etc. Is there a workaround or setting I am missing to avoid this behavour?
[05:55] <konrados> morning :)
[05:56] <konrados> I would like to be able to click with a middle button on an application on the taskbar to close it (close the application), how can I achieve this?
[06:08] <vorap> Hey
[06:09] <vorap> Could someone send me the name of kubuntus off-topic chat I'm on my phone and I can't find it
[06:11] <vorap> Nevermind, I found it
[07:05] <_shaun_> will bash ever overcome this wrapping long line to the same line issue?   its been happening for many years now
[07:07] <valorie> _shaun_: not a Kubuntu issue at all
[07:08] <valorie> you might ask in #bash
[09:06] <_shaun_> the same thing has just happened in zsh now, i launched zsh using bash
[09:08] <_shaun_> ill try zsh on its own, and remove the flawed in my perception bash out of the equation
[09:34] <viewer|66685> -.-
[09:43] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[09:56] <jubo2> G'morning BluesKaj
[09:56] <jubo2> Hur går det i Sverige?
[09:57] <jubo2> Quelqu'un..
[09:57] <jubo2> Prins Phillip? har fåt bébén n'est pas?
[09:59] <BluesKaj> hi jubo2, I'm in Canada
[09:59] <jubo2> BluesKaj: but one more royal kid in Sweden no?
[10:00] <BluesKaj> yes, apparently
[10:00] <jubo2> non ascending one
[10:01] <jubo2> Victoria will be queen and Estelle after her
[10:01] <jubo2> When Carl Gustav Bernadotte calls it quits
[10:05] <jubo2> I describe Canada as "Bordering with USia and Nordic"
[10:06] <hateball> How come in the case of #kubuntu and #kubuntu-offtopic, the channels are reversed
[12:36] <shane_> Sorry folks, but I'm about to put kubuntu down like a rabid dog. Screen flicker is out of control. suspend lasts maybe 12 hours, dolphin can't drag and drop files to a browser, nor can it recall how to submit samba credentials to a network drive, and bluetooth can't send audio
[12:36] <shane_> I just don't see how this level of OS issues hasn't created a firestorm in the community....
[12:37] <shane_> I love kde, but it just doesn't work.  And it's possible that I'm just a kernel upgrade away from solving half of my issues
[12:39] <shane_> Thinkpad T460s - Intel gpu
 Firestorm?
[12:43] <BluesKaj> shane_, which release?
[12:49] <pat_rick> hello all
[12:50] <pat_rick> I'm suffering from some annoying wifi issues, anyone got some experience with that?
[12:50] <pat_rick> apparently, my connection speed randomly (and quite often) slows down to a crawl and I would like to find out why
[12:51] <shane_> 16.04 beta - each batch of updates seems to bring more issues. ie. bluetooth worked great!  and now, it will find and connect, but audio stops playing as soon as I switch to the BT device. Starts again when I stop bluetooth
[12:51] <shane_> screen flicker driving me crazy
[12:52] <BluesKaj> shane_, gpu and audio chip?
[12:55] <BluesKaj> shane_, for official 16.04 supoport joiin #ubuntu+1 btw
[12:55] <pat_rick> the issue seems limited to my Kubuntu (15.10) installation, it works fine in Windows (dual-boot here) and on my Laptop currently running Mint 17.3, so I suspect it's a driver issue
[12:56] <sithlord48> shane_:  try different render mode for desktop effects in system settings -> display compositor
[12:57] <sithlord48> g'morn BluesKaj
[12:57] <BluesKaj> 'Morning sithlord48
[12:58] <sithlord48> pat_rick: kubuntu and mint most likley are using the same drivers...
[13:00] <shane_> sithlord48: I've tried them all. Sadly, it seems to get worse with each update.
[13:00] <BluesKaj> pat_rick, we need to know the wifi chip on the problematic machine
[13:00] <sithlord48> shane_:  what video card do yo uhav?
[13:01] <M3mphiZ> Can Kubuntu be expected to be released at the same time as Ubuntu 16.04?
[13:01] <pat_rick> sithlord48: they are on different hardware, so maybe not
[13:01] <sithlord48> pat_rick: they you shoun't compair the two
[13:02] <BluesKaj> M3mphiZ, yes, tomorrow
[13:03] <pat_rick> BluesKaj: I'm using a USB adapter from d-link (dwa 131), it's based on the Realtek RTL8188cu, afaik
[13:03] <sithlord48> does upgrade from 14.04 -> 16.04 work right ? if not ill install fresh didn't last time i tried
[13:03] <sithlord48> pat_rick: did u check the driver manager in system settings.. iirc the realtek wifi cards perfer the propitary driver
[13:04] <pat_rick> sithlord48: I just mentioned my Mint installation to point out that the network is working fine with other pcs, just not this one
[13:05] <pat_rick> sithlord48: I'm not offered different drivers in the settings, the card was detected out-of-the-box
[13:05] <pat_rick> I tried intalling the proprietary driver from the Realtek site, but the installation is not working right, at some time it stops with some error message
[13:06] <pat_rick> I suspect that it's not working with recent kernels, the drivers are ~3 years old
[13:06] <sithlord48> yeah sounds about right for propertary drivers...
[13:07] <pat_rick> compiling it myself didn't work either, obviously, but then again I'm a noob when it comes to this
[13:08] <sithlord48> humm this ubuntu forums post might be helpful for you pat_rick http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2173782
[13:09] <pat_rick> thanks, will read through it, sithlord48
[13:09] <sithlord48> seams like it could be an issue for some time now...
[13:13] <pat_rick> I had problems on older versions, too
[13:14] <pat_rick> since about 1 year or such, it's at least "working" out-of-the-box without the need to tell him manually which driver to use (which has been included in the frimware for some time, apparently)
[13:14] <pat_rick> I always had issues with my connection stalling out, but when it worked, it worked reasonably fast
[13:14] <sithlord48> its an improvement..
[13:15] <sithlord48> thats is what seams to be the problem .. have you check the power status of the card like in that thread.
[13:15] <pat_rick> since 15.10 however, I have this sloooooow connection suddenly
[13:15] <pat_rick> not yet
[13:15] <sithlord48> try 16.04 ?
[13:16] <sithlord48> its a newer kernel /driver that is going to help you more then anything
[13:16] <pat_rick> hm, it's a somewhat different issue, but it might be connected
[13:17] <pat_rick> interestingly, power management doesn't seem to work at all for me
[13:17] <pat_rick> I'm currently waiting for the release of 16.04 then I'm making the jump
[13:17] <sithlord48> pat_rick:  why? you can just upgrade it
[13:17] <sithlord48> release is tomorrow...
[13:17] <pat_rick> ah, already
[13:18] <pat_rick> but I'm usually prefering a clean install, doesn't take much longer and I had usually better experience with it
[13:18] <sithlord48> so get a daily iso and use that to install fresh
[13:19] <sithlord48> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/current/
[13:20] <sithlord48> pat_rick:  at very least booting in to live mode should tell you if the wifi driver will be better or not as you should be able to use it from there
[13:20] <pat_rick> I guess the changes will be minimal then if release is tomorow, will check out
[13:21] <chron1cle> does running the daily set up different repos for newer packages?
[13:21] <sithlord48> no
[13:22] <sithlord48> the daily is made daily from the packages . so that you are always mostly up to date on that realease . dailys stop after the release and they move to the next release
[13:23] <sithlord48> so when X is released daily builds will stop and they will start for Y when the repo gets set up for it
[14:50] <Guest1971> Hi there - I just had a weird issue that has come up with other distros as well, but I have no idea how it happens. After a suspend (or a hibernation, not sure), my laptop (Lenovo X1 Carbon) awakens with all of the text in certain applications (usually Firefox and pidgin, sometimes others) scrambled, with lots of characters missing. Only a reboot fixes it. I haven't had this issues with Unity or Cinnamon on Mint, but on Kubuntu and other distros with KDE. Any
[14:50] <Guest1971> ideas what is happening?
[15:12] <shane_> sithlord48: Intel HD 520
[15:13] <sithlord48> shane_:  try openGL 2.0 and GLX and log out and back in .. should help with flicker
[15:47] <tomorrow> Hello when tomorrow the new KUBUNTU 16.04 LTS will be released?
[15:47] <tomorrow> Which hour UTC?
[15:48] <marco-parillo> Generally 2300 or so.
[15:48] <Pici> heh
[15:49] <tomorrow> Ok...but servers will break down for so.many download no?
[15:49] <Unit193> Use torrents?
[15:50] <Pici> there are many mirros
[15:50] <Pici> *mirrors
[16:07] <ENOSPC> I noticed that after changing my login password that kwallet was no longer automaticly opening on login, I tried closing the wallet and changing its password to my new login password, but its still not opening at login. any ideas on how to get that going agian?
[16:14] <swipe> kwallet is a nightmare
[16:17] <ENOSPC> I dont have a lot of issus with it.. (unlike gnome-keyring and its broken ssh-agent)
[16:18] <swipe> you could try deleting your salt file but you'll have to save all your passwords again
[16:19] <ENOSPC> export to xml blow away kwallet and reimport?
[16:19] <swipe> worth a shot
[16:25] <BluesKaj> I just disable kwallet sonce it's such a pita
[16:25] <genii> ..or give it an empty pass
[16:26] <ENOSPC> if I gice it a empty pass is the data still encrypted?
[16:26] <ENOSPC> s/gice/give/
[16:26] <genii> Yes
[16:27] <ENOSPC> I think I will do the export / clear / import first, I want to keep it around so I can save my wifi passwords and such
[16:29] <ENOSPC> if its encryped without a password there must be a key around somwhere, right?
[16:36] <shane_> sithlord48: will do now. will let you know
[17:04] <mayhew> Running 16.04, is there an easy way to make the scrollbars smaller?
[17:11] <swipe> hi, anyone know if the neon project is going to make live its stable version in line with kubuntu 16.04
[17:12] <swipe> ?
[17:24] <win10hatr> so what do i need to download to install an iso onto my system?
[17:36] <barmaley> who stole my cookies?
[17:41] <robbie2> Hi
[17:43] <BluesKaj> hi
[17:44] <Gregor3000> win10hatr: use torrent if you can as it checks the ifle integrity durign download. otherwise any browser download will do just make sure you do the md5sum check in the end.
[17:50] <marco-parillo> zsync will also checksum. Gregor3000 but some ISPs seem to throttle torrents
[17:50] <marco-parillo> zsync will also checksum. Gregor3000 is of course correct, but some ISPs seem to throttle torrents
[17:51] <Gregor3000> exactly. some ISPs give users a hard time....
[17:52] <BluesKaj> been using  zsync the few iso's and they were all successful , definitely worth a try
[17:53] <BluesKaj> last few
[17:59] <robbie2> Hi
[17:59] <robbie2> Anyone here??
[18:00] <robbie2>  
[18:00] <robbie2> PLEASE
[18:00] <robbie2> someone aneswer
[18:01] <robbie2> pls
[18:01] <robbie2> plz
[18:01] <marco-parillo> !ask
[18:01] <robbie2> :(
[18:03] <robbie2> back
[18:04] <robbie2> !patience
[18:04] <robbie2> !minecraft
[18:06] <robbie2> !say
[18:08] <robbie2> Oh no
[18:08] <robbie2> !hi
[19:14] <ENOSPC> hmm on kubuntu 16.04 I keep seeing plasmashell disapper with this in the .xsession-errors "org.kde.plasma.pulseaudio: Attempting connection to PulseAudio sound daemon" over and over until "GLib-ERROR **: Creating pipes for GWakeup: Too many open files"
[19:16] <ENOSPC> after this plasmashell continues to die if I restart it, unless I logout and back in
[19:49] <ENOSPC> ohhh.. my bug might be caused by my extensive use of firejail.. trying out a fix now
[21:24] <telegram1> Clifford was added by: Clifford
[21:50] <user|41446> If I install now the 16.04 beta 2 is it like
[21:51] <clivejo> user|41446: Id wait until release
[21:51] <neanderslob> hi all, where can I submit bugs related to kubuntu?  I checked the wiki and it only mentioned how to report bugs relevant to specific applications
[21:51] <user|41446> If I install now the 16.04 beta 2 and update is it like to install tomorrow the 16.04 released
[21:51] <clivejo> neanderslob: depends what the problem is related to
[21:51] <neanderslob> clivejo: I went for it to avoid the rush and it's certainly stable enough for me to get my work done on it
[21:52] <clivejo> neanderslob: whats the bug regarding?
[21:52] <neanderslob> clivejo: one is the audio volume settings
[21:53] <clivejo> have you checked Launchpad to see if the bug has been reported?
[21:53] <neanderslob> clivejo: yep! (though a good recommendation)
[21:54] <clivejo> if its actual KDE software we post the bugs to KDE directly
[21:55] <neanderslob> clivejo: ah, very good
[21:55] <clivejo> https://bugs.kde.org/
[21:55] <clivejo> can you descript what the bug is?
[21:56] <neanderslob> clivejo: so all those bugs on launchpad are relevent to kubuntu-specific applications?
[21:57] <clivejo> they can be all different issues, but some bugs are due to upstream (KDE) software
[21:57] <neanderslob> got it
[21:58] <clivejo> and some are cause by how we (Kubuntu) puts it on top of the Ubuntu base system
[21:58] <neanderslob> so the particular bug: the volume settings say "No Output devices available" but the audio works just fine
[21:59] <neanderslob> actually on the initial install, the volume controls also worked; they stopped after I ran an upgrade
[21:59] <neanderslob> I haven't dug much deeper than that yet
[22:00] <clivejo> in System Settings>Hardware>Audio what do you see?
[22:00] <clivejo> its under Multimedia
[22:01] <clivejo> might be just not using the correct hardware
[22:01] <neanderslob> yea, same error message as above
[22:02] <neanderslob> however I can control it just fine through alsa in the terminal
[22:02] <clivejo> where did you upgrade from?
[22:03] <neanderslob> just ran a sudo apt-get upgrade, would you like me to check my sources.list?
[22:03] <clivejo> what release did you come from?
[22:03] <clivejo> like wily?
 cat /etc/os-release
[22:03] <neanderslob> OOOH, na I just did a fresh install
[22:04] <clivejo> ah
[22:04] <neanderslob> I always try do-release-upgrade on ceremony and it always throws errors for me (probably because I always go from lts to lts)
[22:05] <neanderslob> when I said I ran an upgrade and it stopped working, I was talking about a standard sudo apt-get upgrade
[22:05] <valorie> well, lts > lts upgrades are only supported in the .1 release
[22:05] <valorie> usually a month or six weeks after the initial release
[22:05] <valorie> LTS users are after stability after all, so that first bugfix is a good time to upgrade
[22:06] <neanderslob> ah, well there you have it
[22:06] <neanderslob> valorie: thanks for the explanation
[22:06] <valorie> if you want to upgrade upon release, tell your upgrade manager "all new releases"
[22:06] <valorie> instead of just LTS > LTS
[22:06] <clivejo> I’ve never had much trouble with audio, so I’m not familiar with this problem.  But it does seem odd that it worked then stopped after the upgrade
[22:07] <clivejo> valorie: its a new install
[22:07] <clivejo> audio was working then stopped on apt upgrade
[22:07] <valorie> !sound
 did you try Audio and Video settings
[22:07] <valorie> when I have sound issues, I usually work through that troubleshooting page
 maybe it switched to using the HDM output if you have it
[22:08] <neanderslob> clivejo: I think they were just explaining my whining about do-release-upgrade
[22:08] <valorie> sometimes it's a kernel module not being loaded or so
[22:08] <clivejo> arron: getting the message  "No Output devices available"
[22:08] <valorie> sometimes also has muted something
[22:08] <valorie> alsa
[22:08] <clivejo> but able to control via alsa terminal
[22:08] <neanderslob> valorie: alsa works very well
[22:09] <neanderslob> valorie: the problem isn't that I'm not getting sound; I am.  The problem is that the gui control isn't working
[22:09] <neanderslob> not recognizing existance of output devices etc
[22:10] <valorie> yes, I read what you said, but do not know the cause
[22:10] <valorie> could be kmix, could be pulseaudio, etc.
[22:10] <valorie> linux sound is so complicated, with so many layers
 try alsamixer in konsole and see if something is muted
 the right audio interface might be picked
[22:11] <neanderslob> valorie: is this new kde mixer still based on kmix?
[22:12] <valorie> I believe so, but I'm a bit out of touch with the multimedia folks
[22:12] <valorie> sorry, afk for now
[22:12] <clivejo> neanderslob: personally I think its a config issue
[22:13] <clivejo> but as for fixing it, I dont know
[22:13] <neanderslob> telegram1: interesting idea, could you tell me what I'd be looking for?
[22:13] <neanderslob> clivejo: alright, fair enough
[22:14] <clivejo> neanderslob: BTW telegram is a bot, its a Telegram <-> IRC bridge
[22:15] <neanderslob> clivejo: ah, yea I was just beginning to suspect that
[22:15] <clivejo> the second user <athoneycutt> is the one saying that :)
[22:20] <clivejo> !info plasma-pa
[22:20] <clivejo> !info plasma-pa xenial
[22:23] <clivejo> neanderslob: what version of plasma-pa have you installed at the moment?
[22:23] <clivejo> > dpkg -s plasma-pa
[22:24] <neanderslob> hah, thanks
[22:24] <neanderslob> Version: 4:5.5.5-0ubuntu1
[22:27] <clivejo> have you two volume icons?
[22:27] <neanderslob> in the system tray? nope just one
[22:27] <faqq> hi
[22:28] <clivejo> hi faqq
[22:28]  * clivejo scratches head
[22:29] <neanderslob> clivejo: well that was nice of them to pop in and greet us
[22:30] <clivejo> who?
[22:30] <neanderslob> oh, faqq's random hi (thought that was what you were scratching your head at)
[22:30] <faqq> mmm?
[22:30] <clivejo> Im scratching about your audio issues!
[22:31] <faqq> m'sorry
[22:32] <clivejo> I know at the start of the testing for Xenial there was an issue with both kmix and plasma-pa being installed which showed two icons
[22:32] <clivejo> but thats been ironed out a while now
[22:32] <valorie> yes, my double disappeared without me doing anything about it
[22:33] <clivejo> plasma-pa is the package responsible for that volume control plasmoid
[22:33] <valorie> oops, still afk
[22:33] <valorie> lol
[22:33] <clivejo> which is why I checked to see which version you had
[22:33] <clivejo> 5.5.5 is the correct version
[22:33] <neanderslob> i suppose that's good news of a sort
[22:34] <clivejo> when you menu click over the little icon and go to "Audio Volume Settings"
[22:34] <clivejo> in the Config tab
[22:34] <faqq> what's about radeon drivers?
[22:35] <neanderslob> says "No Additional Configuration Available"
[22:35] <neanderslob> all those tabs have their own version of "No ____ available"
[22:37] <clivejo> in your kickoff menu can you type "pa" and launch the Pulse Audio Volume control
[22:38] <neanderslob> that's interesting, not getting pulse audio's volume control
[22:40] <neanderslob> though pulse audio seems to be installed
[22:41] <clivejo> can you try creating a new user and see if audio works while logged in as that user?
[22:42] <neanderslob> sure, one moment
[22:42] <neanderslob> gotta close out of the other stuff I'm working on
[22:42] <clivejo> sorry
[22:42] <clivejo> just wondering if its a local user config or global
[22:47] <neanderslob> alright, logging out now
[22:51] <neanderslob> clivejo: Alright, I switched over to the new user and the volume control IS working
[22:51] <clivejo> so its a local config problem
[22:52] <neanderslob> should also note (on the off chance that it provides information) that the volume control on my original account is red, instead of the dark gray like the rest of the icons
[22:53] <clivejo> red mean mute on mine
[22:53] <clivejo> the icon of a speaker with two sound waves on it?
[22:54] <neanderslob> that's the one
[22:54] <clivejo> do you have a system mute button?
[22:54] <neanderslob> like on my keyboard? yea
[22:54] <clivejo> tried that?
[22:55] <neanderslob> no, though I have tried the volume buttons and nothing
[22:55] <neanderslob> let me switch back over to my "problem account" unless you'd like me to do anything on the new one first
[22:55] <clivejo> you can switch accounts to save you relogging into IRC
[22:58] <chron1cle> is there a trick to making gmail work in kmail? Server keeps respond 'NO' and their stupid weblink. got icloud working fine though in kmail. Find that kinda funny.
[22:59] <neanderslob> clivejo: good point, but too late
[22:59] <clivejo> chron1cle: https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/3466521?hl=en
[23:01] <keithzg> chron1cle: Works fine for me but I went to https://myaccount.google.com/security and toggled the "allow less secure apps" option on, which I vaguely remember is necessary for IMAP access.
[23:01]  * keithzg is also still on 14.04, admittedly . . . pondering whether to update today or not
[23:01] <chron1cle> sitting on 15.10 at the moment
[23:02] <chron1cle> think i did that but ill give it a try
[23:02] <neanderslob> clivejo: alright,  so would I be correct in guessing that there might be something in my .kde directory that's imposing outdated settings on the audio controlls in this version of kde?
[23:02] <clivejo> neanderslob: Im thinking .config/pulse
[23:02] <clivejo> but I really dont know
[23:02] <keithzg> chron1cle: And you've definitely enabled IMAP access in Gmail's settings? (Just making sure we cover all the basics first)
[23:03] <clivejo> chron1cle: less secure apps link is here - https://www.google.com/settings/u/0/security/lesssecureapps
[23:03] <chron1cle> keithzg: yep just checked that
[23:03] <neanderslob> clivejo: well that's a good place for me to start trying stuff
[23:04] <clivejo> neanderslob: I would remove that and re-log and see what happened
[23:04] <keithzg> chron1cle: Hmm. And you're definitely using the same settings in kmail as detailed in https://support.google.com/mail/troubleshooter/1668960 ?
[23:06] <keithzg> I mean, I do see "Ubuntu" listed in my list of apps that have access to my full Google Account, not sure if that's KMail or not though.
[23:07] <chron1cle> keithzg: yep. I dont have their two step turned on either, and i tried the insecure button you mentioned. still getting 'Login failed, server replied: A000002 NO Please log in via your web browser: https://support.google.com/mail/accounts/answer/78754'
[23:08] <chron1cle> keithzg: which i am logged in. lol.
[23:09] <clivejo> chron1cle: when I setup Gmail in Kmail I needed to generate an app password for Mail - https://security.google.com/settings/security/apppasswords
[23:09] <clivejo> you then use that password instead of your main Google account password
[23:10] <clivejo> from within Kmail
[23:11] <clivejo> I named it Kubuntu 16.04 and gave it Mail access
[23:11]  * chron1cle kicks google. "Your browser is not supported" Firefox 45.0.1
[23:11] <chron1cle> :|
[23:11] <keithzg> clivejo: Interesting, I definitely didn't have to do this, but the last time I did this config from scratch was almost a year ago. Just checked it myself though and it says "The setting that you are looking for is not available for your account." for me.
[23:11] <chron1cle> I'm gonna try that once I get google to stop judging my browser choice
[23:11] <clivejo> keithzg: I have two factor access on my Gmail
[23:12] <clivejo> so didnt want to disable that for IMAP access
[23:12] <clivejo> but if I make Kmail login with that token as the password it works :/
[23:13] <keithzg> clivejo: Ah, fair enough. Yeah, I don't have that since Google's text messages have been . . . inconsistent in actually arriving for me (sometimes entire months have gone by where they never have when I've had to use them) so I don't trust 2-factor that way.
[23:14] <neanderslob_> clivejo: got it, seems to be the .config/kmixrc settings
[23:14] <neanderslob_> thanks for the help!
[23:15] <clivejo> it working?
[23:16] <chron1cle> Thanks everyone. I had to turn on 2 step, and then set up an app password for google to stop blocking it.
[23:16] <chron1cle> idk why but it works now so i'll live with two step. lol
[23:18] <clivejo> neanderslob: is it working?
[23:18] <neanderslob> clivejo: hey, sorry, irc client was getting all wonky (too much logging on and off again)
[23:18] <neanderslob> clivejo: yea it's working
[23:18] <clivejo> neanderslob: :)
[23:18] <neanderslob> .config/kmixrc seemed to be the culprit (don't know if you got that message)
[23:19] <clivejo> yeah I did
[23:19] <neanderslob> many thanks; much appreciated
[23:19] <clivejo> never seen that problem before, but glad you got it fixed
[23:19] <clivejo> need to go to bed, night all!
[23:20] <chron1cle> night clivejo
[23:20] <chron1cle> thanks
[23:20] <chron1cle> and thank keithzg as well
[23:25] <keithzg> chron1cle: no problem, just glad it worked out for you in the end :)
[23:41] <hazamonzo> Hey folks. Might be a silly question but is there a recommended SSH manager tool avilable so that i can save SSH connections and so on. Save me having to write scripts?
[23:42] <hazamonzo> Also, Hello!
 <hazamonzo>: you could bookmark the connection in konsole?
[23:58] <lucas_> hi
 Hi lucas_