darkxst | LaserAllan, evince handles most things | 07:21 |
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LocutusOfBorg | ok | 10:29 |
LocutusOfBorg | I'm downloading an image | 10:29 |
darkxst | LocutusOfBorg, lightdm still launches as root on the images I tested today also | 10:31 |
LocutusOfBorg | link to images? | 10:31 |
LocutusOfBorg | can you please try with the virtualbox on propsed | 10:31 |
darkxst | LocutusOfBorg, probably http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/daily-live/20160419/ (I just zsync'ed it) | 10:32 |
LocutusOfBorg | I'm installing xenial beta2 | 10:32 |
LocutusOfBorg | darkxst, can you please try? | 10:36 |
LocutusOfBorg | I need to know whick kernel module are you using | 10:36 |
darkxst | LocutusOfBorg, yes, will try in a sec | 10:36 |
LocutusOfBorg | thanks | 10:37 |
LocutusOfBorg | apt-get install virtualbox-guest-dkms please | 10:37 |
darkxst | I am (was) using whatever module is tainting the live cd kernel ;) | 10:37 |
LocutusOfBorg | NO | 10:37 |
LocutusOfBorg | that is the problem | 10:37 |
LocutusOfBorg | :( | 10:37 |
darkxst | oh right | 10:37 |
LocutusOfBorg | one sec | 10:38 |
darkxst | I still don't know who had the brain fart to include vbox in the kernel images | 10:38 |
LocutusOfBorg | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1571156 | 10:38 |
ubot5` | Launchpad bug 1571156 in linux (Ubuntu) "vbox: resync with 5.0.16-dfsg-3" [High,In progress] | 10:38 |
LocutusOfBorg | you can also use the guest-additions-iso file | 10:39 |
LocutusOfBorg | FWIW I deleted the kernel modules under lib/modules and did a dpkg-reconfigure virtualbox-guest-dkms | 10:40 |
LocutusOfBorg | because it was refusing to override the 5.0.18 because the old 5.0.16 from kernel were installed | 10:40 |
LocutusOfBorg | bad dpkg is bad | 10:40 |
darkxst | LocutusOfBorg, vbox is also bad! | 10:41 |
LocutusOfBorg | installed beta-2 | 10:46 |
LocutusOfBorg | installed virtualbox-guest-dkms | 10:46 |
LocutusOfBorg | restarted | 10:46 |
LocutusOfBorg | full screen | 10:46 |
LocutusOfBorg | and I don't have xorg-legacy installed | 10:46 |
LocutusOfBorg | trying your daily-live now | 10:49 |
darkxst | I can't even get the dkms package ;( | 10:49 |
LocutusOfBorg | enable proposed it is migrating right now | 10:49 |
LocutusOfBorg | 5.0.18-dfsg-2build1 | 10:49 |
LocutusOfBorg | or grab the three debs | 10:49 |
LocutusOfBorg | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/virtualbox/5.0.18-dfsg-2build1 | 10:49 |
darkxst | I did, apt-get is barfing on some appstream error | 10:50 |
darkxst | could be my mirror | 10:50 |
LocutusOfBorg | I use the archive.ubuntu.com | 10:51 |
darkxst | LocutusOfBorg, that is too slow in Australia! | 10:53 |
LocutusOfBorg | :( | 10:53 |
darkxst | im grabbing the .debs, slowly... | 10:54 |
darkxst | ls | 10:54 |
LocutusOfBorg | ls: error, file not found | 10:55 |
darkxst | LocutusOfBorg, and while I wait, is vbox getting removed from the kernel? | 10:58 |
LocutusOfBorg | no | 10:58 |
LocutusOfBorg | i don't think so | 10:58 |
LocutusOfBorg | it will be updated | 10:58 |
LocutusOfBorg | daily live installed, and updated | 10:59 |
LocutusOfBorg | installing the guest dkms | 10:59 |
LocutusOfBorg | and rebooting | 10:59 |
LocutusOfBorg | working | 11:01 |
darkxst | LocutusOfBorg, my vbox is happily just flashing a "^C" symbol! | 11:04 |
LocutusOfBorg | mmm what did you do | 11:04 |
LocutusOfBorg | version | 11:04 |
darkxst | LocutusOfBorg, current daily image, with the -proposed debs and removed -legacy | 11:06 |
LocutusOfBorg | why did you add legacy in first place? | 11:06 |
LocutusOfBorg | I don't have it installed | 11:07 |
LocutusOfBorg | and the host version? | 11:07 |
darkxst | LocutusOfBorg, its in our seeds since like whenever 1.18 was uploaded | 11:07 |
darkxst | only 5.0.18-dfsg-1ubuntu1 | 11:08 |
darkxst | LocutusOfBorg, I need to wind down for the night, still battling the flu | 11:13 |
darkxst | so what actually needs to happen when the changes land? | 11:13 |
darkxst | seed vbox-guest-dkms and drop -legacy? | 11:13 |
LocutusOfBorg | yes | 11:20 |
darkxst | LocutusOfBorg, ok, I will try in the morning when the mirrors have synced up | 11:22 |
LocutusOfBorg | thanks | 11:22 |
LocutusOfBorg | I did this | 11:22 |
LocutusOfBorg | install daily image or beta2 | 11:23 |
LocutusOfBorg | enable xenial, xenial-updates xenial-backports xenial-proposed | 11:23 |
LocutusOfBorg | apt-get install virtualbox-guest-dkms | 11:23 |
LocutusOfBorg | apt-get dist-upgrade | 11:23 |
LocutusOfBorg | reboot | 11:25 |
LocutusOfBorg | (I also tried without dist-upgrade and after) | 11:25 |
LocutusOfBorg | I tried to install the dkms, and update the kernel after, just to see if the module was still working | 11:26 |
LocutusOfBorg | and in each case I checked apt-get remove xserver-xorg-legacy | 11:26 |
LocutusOfBorg | and it wasn't installed | 11:26 |
LocutusOfBorg | darkxst, take care of your health :) | 11:26 |
darkxst | LocutusOfBorg, xserver-xorg-legacy is seeded on our images, 100% sure of that | 11:27 |
LocutusOfBorg | http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/daily-live/20160419/ | 11:27 |
LocutusOfBorg | here? | 11:27 |
darkxst | ubuntu-gnome | 11:28 |
LocutusOfBorg | I did try everything with ubuntu | 11:28 |
darkxst | http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-gnome/daily-live/20160419/ | 11:28 |
LocutusOfBorg | thanks | 11:28 |
LocutusOfBorg | I can try that one too | 11:28 |
darkxst | LocutusOfBorg, ubuntu is still lauching lightdm and the user Xorg as root | 11:29 |
LocutusOfBorg | darkxst, how | 11:29 |
LocutusOfBorg | the legacy package is not installed in the ubuntu/daily-live | 11:29 |
darkxst | I don't know it will be in lightdm somewhere | 11:29 |
darkxst | gdm has proper support for root-less Xorg | 11:30 |
LocutusOfBorg | what is the default? | 11:30 |
darkxst | so gdm runs a gdm user and user Xorg as the user | 11:30 |
darkxst | LocutusOfBorg, which default? | 11:30 |
LocutusOfBorg | I install ubuntu/daily-live | 11:31 |
LocutusOfBorg | without changing a bit | 11:31 |
darkxst | LocutusOfBorg, we are not ubuntu! read the channel name again ;) | 11:31 |
darkxst | we use gdm, ubuntu uses lightdm | 11:32 |
LocutusOfBorg | yes, I know that | 11:32 |
LocutusOfBorg | and I'm already trying the ubuntu-gnome/daily-live | 11:32 |
darkxst | ps aux | grep X on the ubuntu images from today, shows lightdm running as root | 11:32 |
LocutusOfBorg | ok | 11:33 |
LocutusOfBorg | I'm a gnome user, but I install it on top of the ubuntu images | 11:33 |
LocutusOfBorg | :) | 11:33 |
LocutusOfBorg | not sure why I don't pick the ubuntu-gnome flavour | 11:34 |
darkxst | LocutusOfBorg, with gdm or lightdm? | 11:34 |
LocutusOfBorg | I tried both until wilu | 11:34 |
LocutusOfBorg | wily | 11:34 |
LocutusOfBorg | I usually try both and choose one | 11:34 |
LocutusOfBorg | e.g. IIRC lightdm was bad until trusty with gnome | 11:35 |
LocutusOfBorg | (e.g. no way to lock screen from graphic) | 11:35 |
LocutusOfBorg | and with vivid IIRC wasn't even working with lightdm | 11:35 |
LocutusOfBorg | with wily I use lightdm | 11:35 |
LocutusOfBorg | with xenial I'll see | 11:35 |
darkxst | LocutusOfBorg, yes, I patched a few bits of the GNOME stack to work with lightdm, but we don't really support that config | 11:36 |
LocutusOfBorg | what is the difference between ubuntu-gnome and ubuntu with apt-get install gnome-shell? | 11:37 |
darkxst | mainly a different packageset, lightdm doesnt work 100% with GNOME integration like gdm | 11:38 |
darkxst | gdm and gnome-shell are very tightly coupled | 11:44 |
* darkxst sleeps .... | 11:45 | |
mgedmin | you can install ubuntu and cross-upgrade into ubuntu-gnome, but it'll take a bit more than just apt installing gnome-shell | 12:12 |
mgedmin | there are some metapackages that pull in everything | 12:12 |
mgedmin | IIRC the wiki has instructions somewhere | 12:12 |
LocutusOfBorg | darkxst, I did install ubuntu-gnome daily | 12:31 |
LocutusOfBorg | apt-get dist-upgrade and install of virtualbox-guest-dkms | 12:32 |
LocutusOfBorg | at reboot I have a shell, no gdm | 12:32 |
LocutusOfBorg | but startx works | 12:32 |
LocutusOfBorg | with and without the legacy package | 12:32 |
LocutusOfBorg | interesting | 12:36 |
LocutusOfBorg | gdm doesn't start by default | 12:36 |
LocutusOfBorg | but lightdm does | 12:36 |
mgedmin | IIRC you need to use `sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm` and select the display manager you prefer | 12:43 |
mgedmin | maybe `sudo dpkg-reconfigure -p LOW gdm`, I don't remember the details -- I'd look for a /usr/share/docs/gdm/README.Debian* to describe this | 12:43 |
mgedmin | ah, no, gdm's README.Debian doesn't say :/ | 12:44 |
mgedmin | or, if you're feeling brave, you can apt remove lightdm | 12:45 |
mgedmin | when there's only one display manager installed, there's no need to choose which one you want ;) | 12:45 |
darkxst | LocutusOfBorg, lightdm is not on our images | 12:47 |
LocutusOfBorg | thanks mgedmin but I don't have such issues | 12:47 |
LocutusOfBorg | darkxst, I did apt-get install lightdm, selected it, rebooted and it started correctly | 12:48 |
LocutusOfBorg | interestingly enough, even with gdm, a startx works | 12:48 |
LocutusOfBorg | I know it isn't seeded | 12:48 |
darkxst | LocutusOfBorg, yeh because it runs as root? | 12:48 |
LocutusOfBorg | indeed | 12:48 |
darkxst | which defies the entire point of root-less X | 12:49 |
LocutusOfBorg | but with gdm I don't do sudo startx | 12:49 |
LocutusOfBorg | just a startx | 12:49 |
LocutusOfBorg | let me check | 12:49 |
darkxst | LocutusOfBorg, how do you even get the fd for the gpu with vbox UMS drivers? | 12:49 |
LocutusOfBorg | what? | 12:55 |
LocutusOfBorg | ok, strange | 13:07 |
LocutusOfBorg | I did install the live daily build | 13:07 |
LocutusOfBorg | updated with -proposed pocket | 13:07 |
LocutusOfBorg | removed xorg-legacy package | 13:07 |
LocutusOfBorg | reboot, the system blinks for a minute or two | 13:07 |
LocutusOfBorg | (same happens in debian) | 13:08 |
LocutusOfBorg | installed the guest-dkms and guest-utils | 13:08 |
LocutusOfBorg | rebooted | 13:08 |
LocutusOfBorg | everything seems good | 13:08 |
LocutusOfBorg | with gdm of course | 13:08 |
LocutusOfBorg | locutus@locutus-VirtualBox:~$ ps axu |grep gdm | 13:08 |
LocutusOfBorg | root 731 0.0 0.1 289912 7064 ? Ssl 15:07 0:00 /usr/sbin/gdm3 | 13:08 |
LocutusOfBorg | root 738 0.0 0.1 242532 7252 ? Sl 15:07 0:00 gdm-session-worker [pam/gdm-autologin] | 13:08 |
LocutusOfBorg | locutus 784 0.0 0.1 197648 7584 tty7 Ssl+ 15:07 0:00 /usr/lib/gdm3/gdm-x-session --run-script gnome-session --session=gnome | 13:08 |
LocutusOfBorg | locutus 792 0.8 0.7 236024 40904 tty7 S+ 15:07 0:00 /usr/lib/xorg/Xorg vt7 -displayfd 3 -auth /run/user/1000/gdm/Xauthority -background none -noreset -keeptty -verbose 3 | 13:08 |
LocutusOfBorg | locutus@locutus-VirtualBox:~$ uname -a | 13:09 |
LocutusOfBorg | Linux locutus-VirtualBox 4.4.0-21-generic #37-Ubuntu SMP Mon Apr 18 18:33:37 UTC 2016 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux | 13:09 |
LocutusOfBorg | not sure what does it mean | 13:10 |
LocutusOfBorg | but I can remove the legacy package, and have everything working with guest-dkms and gdm | 13:10 |
LocutusOfBorg | darkxst, sorry for not letting you sleep | 13:11 |
LocutusOfBorg | trying lightdm now | 13:11 |
LocutusOfBorg | locutus@locutus-VirtualBox:~$ ps axu |grep -i xorg | 13:14 |
LocutusOfBorg | locutus 790 2.6 0.9 249376 53976 tty7 S+ 15:13 0:00 /usr/lib/xorg/Xorg vt7 -displayfd 3 -auth /run/user/1000/gdm/Xauthority -background none -noreset -keeptty -verbose 3 | 13:14 |
LocutusOfBorg | locutus 1682 0.0 0.0 18488 976 pts/0 S+ 15:14 0:00 grep --color=auto -i xorg | 13:14 |
LocutusOfBorg | seems I'm running a rootless gdm3 session correctly | 13:14 |
darkxst | + | 13:58 |
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LaserAllan | are there any shortcommands for opening "files"? | 20:48 |
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