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darkxstLaserAllan, evince handles most things07:21
LocutusOfBorgok10:29
LocutusOfBorgI'm downloading an image10:29
darkxstLocutusOfBorg, lightdm still launches as root on the images I tested today also10:31
LocutusOfBorglink to images?10:31
LocutusOfBorgcan you please try with the virtualbox on propsed10:31
darkxstLocutusOfBorg, probably http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/daily-live/20160419/ (I just zsync'ed it)10:32
LocutusOfBorgI'm installing xenial beta210:32
LocutusOfBorgdarkxst, can you please try?10:36
LocutusOfBorgI need to know whick kernel module are you using10:36
darkxstLocutusOfBorg, yes, will try in a sec10:36
LocutusOfBorgthanks10:37
LocutusOfBorgapt-get install virtualbox-guest-dkms please10:37
darkxstI am (was) using whatever module is tainting the live cd kernel ;)10:37
LocutusOfBorgNO10:37
LocutusOfBorgthat is the problem10:37
LocutusOfBorg:(10:37
darkxstoh right10:37
LocutusOfBorgone sec10:38
darkxstI still don't know who had the brain fart to include vbox in the kernel images10:38
LocutusOfBorghttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/157115610:38
ubot5`Launchpad bug 1571156 in linux (Ubuntu) "vbox: resync with 5.0.16-dfsg-3" [High,In progress]10:38
LocutusOfBorgyou can also use the guest-additions-iso file10:39
LocutusOfBorgFWIW I deleted the kernel modules under lib/modules and did a dpkg-reconfigure virtualbox-guest-dkms10:40
LocutusOfBorgbecause it was refusing to override the 5.0.18 because the old 5.0.16 from kernel were installed10:40
LocutusOfBorgbad dpkg is bad10:40
darkxstLocutusOfBorg, vbox is also bad!10:41
LocutusOfBorginstalled beta-210:46
LocutusOfBorginstalled virtualbox-guest-dkms10:46
LocutusOfBorgrestarted10:46
LocutusOfBorgfull screen10:46
LocutusOfBorgand I don't have xorg-legacy installed10:46
LocutusOfBorgtrying your daily-live now10:49
darkxstI can't even get the dkms package ;(10:49
LocutusOfBorgenable proposed it is migrating right now10:49
LocutusOfBorg    5.0.18-dfsg-2build110:49
LocutusOfBorgor grab the three debs10:49
LocutusOfBorghttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/virtualbox/5.0.18-dfsg-2build110:49
darkxstI did, apt-get is barfing on some appstream error10:50
darkxstcould be my mirror10:50
LocutusOfBorgI use the archive.ubuntu.com10:51
darkxstLocutusOfBorg, that is too slow in Australia!10:53
LocutusOfBorg:(10:53
darkxstim grabbing the .debs, slowly...10:54
darkxstls10:54
LocutusOfBorgls: error, file not found10:55
darkxstLocutusOfBorg, and while I wait, is vbox getting removed from the kernel?10:58
LocutusOfBorgno10:58
LocutusOfBorgi don't think so10:58
LocutusOfBorgit will be updated10:58
LocutusOfBorgdaily live installed, and updated10:59
LocutusOfBorginstalling the guest dkms10:59
LocutusOfBorgand rebooting10:59
LocutusOfBorgworking11:01
darkxstLocutusOfBorg, my vbox is happily just flashing a "^C" symbol!11:04
LocutusOfBorgmmm what did you do11:04
LocutusOfBorgversion11:04
darkxstLocutusOfBorg, current daily image, with the -proposed debs and removed -legacy11:06
LocutusOfBorgwhy did you add legacy in first place?11:06
LocutusOfBorgI don't have it installed11:07
LocutusOfBorgand the host version?11:07
darkxstLocutusOfBorg, its in our seeds since like whenever 1.18 was uploaded11:07
darkxstonly  5.0.18-dfsg-1ubuntu111:08
darkxstLocutusOfBorg, I need to wind down for the night, still battling the flu11:13
darkxstso what actually needs to happen when the changes land?11:13
darkxstseed vbox-guest-dkms and drop -legacy?11:13
LocutusOfBorgyes11:20
darkxstLocutusOfBorg, ok, I will try in the morning when the mirrors have synced up11:22
LocutusOfBorgthanks11:22
LocutusOfBorgI did this11:22
LocutusOfBorginstall daily image or beta211:23
LocutusOfBorgenable xenial, xenial-updates xenial-backports xenial-proposed11:23
LocutusOfBorgapt-get install virtualbox-guest-dkms11:23
LocutusOfBorgapt-get dist-upgrade11:23
LocutusOfBorgreboot11:25
LocutusOfBorg(I also tried without dist-upgrade and after)11:25
LocutusOfBorgI tried to install the dkms, and update the kernel after, just to see if the module was still working11:26
LocutusOfBorgand in each case I checked apt-get remove xserver-xorg-legacy11:26
LocutusOfBorgand it wasn't installed11:26
LocutusOfBorgdarkxst, take care of your health :)11:26
darkxstLocutusOfBorg, xserver-xorg-legacy is seeded on our images, 100% sure of that11:27
LocutusOfBorghttp://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/daily-live/20160419/11:27
LocutusOfBorghere?11:27
darkxstubuntu-gnome11:28
LocutusOfBorgI did try everything with ubuntu11:28
darkxsthttp://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-gnome/daily-live/20160419/11:28
LocutusOfBorgthanks11:28
LocutusOfBorgI can try that one too11:28
darkxstLocutusOfBorg, ubuntu is still lauching lightdm and the user Xorg as root11:29
LocutusOfBorgdarkxst, how11:29
LocutusOfBorgthe legacy package is not installed in the ubuntu/daily-live11:29
darkxstI don't know it will be in lightdm somewhere11:29
darkxstgdm has proper support for root-less Xorg11:30
LocutusOfBorgwhat is the default?11:30
darkxstso gdm runs a gdm user and user Xorg as the user11:30
darkxstLocutusOfBorg, which default?11:30
LocutusOfBorgI install ubuntu/daily-live11:31
LocutusOfBorgwithout changing a bit11:31
darkxstLocutusOfBorg, we are not ubuntu! read the channel name again ;)11:31
darkxstwe use gdm, ubuntu uses lightdm11:32
LocutusOfBorgyes, I know that11:32
LocutusOfBorgand I'm already trying the ubuntu-gnome/daily-live11:32
darkxstps aux | grep X on the ubuntu images from today, shows lightdm running as root11:32
LocutusOfBorgok11:33
LocutusOfBorgI'm a gnome user, but I install it on top of the ubuntu images11:33
LocutusOfBorg:)11:33
LocutusOfBorgnot sure why I don't pick the ubuntu-gnome flavour11:34
darkxstLocutusOfBorg, with gdm or lightdm?11:34
LocutusOfBorgI tried both until wilu11:34
LocutusOfBorgwily11:34
LocutusOfBorgI usually try both and choose one11:34
LocutusOfBorge.g. IIRC lightdm was bad until trusty with gnome11:35
LocutusOfBorg(e.g. no way to lock screen from graphic)11:35
LocutusOfBorgand with vivid IIRC wasn't even working with lightdm11:35
LocutusOfBorgwith wily I use lightdm11:35
LocutusOfBorgwith xenial I'll see11:35
darkxstLocutusOfBorg, yes, I patched a few bits of the GNOME stack to work with lightdm, but we don't really support that config11:36
LocutusOfBorgwhat is the difference between ubuntu-gnome and ubuntu with apt-get install gnome-shell?11:37
darkxstmainly a different packageset, lightdm doesnt work 100% with GNOME integration like gdm11:38
darkxstgdm and gnome-shell are very tightly coupled11:44
* darkxst sleeps ....11:45
mgedminyou can install ubuntu and cross-upgrade into ubuntu-gnome, but it'll take a bit more than just apt installing gnome-shell12:12
mgedminthere are some metapackages that pull in everything12:12
mgedminIIRC the wiki has instructions somewhere12:12
LocutusOfBorgdarkxst, I did install ubuntu-gnome daily12:31
LocutusOfBorgapt-get dist-upgrade and install of virtualbox-guest-dkms12:32
LocutusOfBorgat reboot I have a shell, no gdm12:32
LocutusOfBorgbut startx works12:32
LocutusOfBorgwith and without the legacy package12:32
LocutusOfBorginteresting12:36
LocutusOfBorggdm doesn't start by default12:36
LocutusOfBorgbut lightdm does12:36
mgedminIIRC you need to use `sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm` and select the display manager you prefer12:43
mgedminmaybe `sudo dpkg-reconfigure -p LOW gdm`, I don't remember the details -- I'd look for a /usr/share/docs/gdm/README.Debian* to describe this12:43
mgedminah, no, gdm's README.Debian doesn't say :/12:44
mgedminor, if you're feeling brave, you can apt remove lightdm12:45
mgedminwhen there's only one display manager installed, there's no need to choose which one you want ;)12:45
darkxstLocutusOfBorg, lightdm is not on our images12:47
LocutusOfBorgthanks mgedmin but I don't have such issues12:47
LocutusOfBorgdarkxst, I did apt-get install lightdm, selected it, rebooted and it started correctly12:48
LocutusOfBorginterestingly enough, even with gdm, a startx works12:48
LocutusOfBorgI know it isn't seeded12:48
darkxstLocutusOfBorg, yeh because it runs as root?12:48
LocutusOfBorgindeed12:48
darkxstwhich defies the entire point of root-less X12:49
LocutusOfBorgbut with gdm I don't do sudo startx12:49
LocutusOfBorgjust a startx12:49
LocutusOfBorglet me check12:49
darkxstLocutusOfBorg, how do you even get the fd for the gpu with vbox UMS drivers?12:49
LocutusOfBorgwhat?12:55
LocutusOfBorgok, strange13:07
LocutusOfBorgI did install the live daily build13:07
LocutusOfBorgupdated with -proposed pocket13:07
LocutusOfBorgremoved xorg-legacy package13:07
LocutusOfBorgreboot, the system blinks for a minute or two13:07
LocutusOfBorg(same happens in debian)13:08
LocutusOfBorginstalled the guest-dkms and guest-utils13:08
LocutusOfBorgrebooted13:08
LocutusOfBorgeverything seems good13:08
LocutusOfBorgwith gdm of course13:08
LocutusOfBorglocutus@locutus-VirtualBox:~$ ps axu |grep gdm13:08
LocutusOfBorgroot       731  0.0  0.1 289912  7064 ?        Ssl  15:07   0:00 /usr/sbin/gdm313:08
LocutusOfBorgroot       738  0.0  0.1 242532  7252 ?        Sl   15:07   0:00 gdm-session-worker [pam/gdm-autologin]13:08
LocutusOfBorglocutus    784  0.0  0.1 197648  7584 tty7     Ssl+ 15:07   0:00 /usr/lib/gdm3/gdm-x-session --run-script gnome-session --session=gnome13:08
LocutusOfBorglocutus    792  0.8  0.7 236024 40904 tty7     S+   15:07   0:00 /usr/lib/xorg/Xorg vt7 -displayfd 3 -auth /run/user/1000/gdm/Xauthority -background none -noreset -keeptty -verbose 313:08
LocutusOfBorglocutus@locutus-VirtualBox:~$ uname -a13:09
LocutusOfBorgLinux locutus-VirtualBox 4.4.0-21-generic #37-Ubuntu SMP Mon Apr 18 18:33:37 UTC 2016 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux13:09
LocutusOfBorgnot sure what does it mean13:10
LocutusOfBorgbut I can remove the legacy package, and have everything working with guest-dkms and gdm13:10
LocutusOfBorgdarkxst, sorry for not letting you sleep13:11
LocutusOfBorgtrying lightdm now13:11
LocutusOfBorglocutus@locutus-VirtualBox:~$ ps axu |grep -i xorg13:14
LocutusOfBorglocutus    790  2.6  0.9 249376 53976 tty7     S+   15:13   0:00 /usr/lib/xorg/Xorg vt7 -displayfd 3 -auth /run/user/1000/gdm/Xauthority -background none -noreset -keeptty -verbose 313:14
LocutusOfBorglocutus   1682  0.0  0.0  18488   976 pts/0    S+   15:14   0:00 grep --color=auto -i xorg13:14
LocutusOfBorgseems I'm running a rootless gdm3 session correctly13:14
darkxst+13:58
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LaserAllanare there any shortcommands for opening "files"?20:48

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