[07:21] LaserAllan, evince handles most things [10:29] ok [10:29] I'm downloading an image [10:31] LocutusOfBorg, lightdm still launches as root on the images I tested today also [10:31] link to images? [10:31] can you please try with the virtualbox on propsed [10:32] LocutusOfBorg, probably http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/daily-live/20160419/ (I just zsync'ed it) [10:32] I'm installing xenial beta2 [10:36] darkxst, can you please try? [10:36] I need to know whick kernel module are you using [10:36] LocutusOfBorg, yes, will try in a sec [10:37] thanks [10:37] apt-get install virtualbox-guest-dkms please [10:37] I am (was) using whatever module is tainting the live cd kernel ;) [10:37] NO [10:37] that is the problem [10:37] :( [10:37] oh right [10:38] one sec [10:38] I still don't know who had the brain fart to include vbox in the kernel images [10:38] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1571156 [10:38] Launchpad bug 1571156 in linux (Ubuntu) "vbox: resync with 5.0.16-dfsg-3" [High,In progress] [10:39] you can also use the guest-additions-iso file [10:40] FWIW I deleted the kernel modules under lib/modules and did a dpkg-reconfigure virtualbox-guest-dkms [10:40] because it was refusing to override the 5.0.18 because the old 5.0.16 from kernel were installed [10:40] bad dpkg is bad [10:41] LocutusOfBorg, vbox is also bad! [10:46] installed beta-2 [10:46] installed virtualbox-guest-dkms [10:46] restarted [10:46] full screen [10:46] and I don't have xorg-legacy installed [10:49] trying your daily-live now [10:49] I can't even get the dkms package ;( [10:49] enable proposed it is migrating right now [10:49] 5.0.18-dfsg-2build1 [10:49] or grab the three debs [10:49] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/virtualbox/5.0.18-dfsg-2build1 [10:50] I did, apt-get is barfing on some appstream error [10:50] could be my mirror [10:51] I use the archive.ubuntu.com [10:53] LocutusOfBorg, that is too slow in Australia! [10:53] :( [10:54] im grabbing the .debs, slowly... [10:54] ls [10:55] ls: error, file not found [10:58] LocutusOfBorg, and while I wait, is vbox getting removed from the kernel? [10:58] no [10:58] i don't think so [10:58] it will be updated [10:59] daily live installed, and updated [10:59] installing the guest dkms [10:59] and rebooting [11:01] working [11:04] LocutusOfBorg, my vbox is happily just flashing a "^C" symbol! [11:04] mmm what did you do [11:04] version [11:06] LocutusOfBorg, current daily image, with the -proposed debs and removed -legacy [11:06] why did you add legacy in first place? [11:07] I don't have it installed [11:07] and the host version? [11:07] LocutusOfBorg, its in our seeds since like whenever 1.18 was uploaded [11:08] only 5.0.18-dfsg-1ubuntu1 [11:13] LocutusOfBorg, I need to wind down for the night, still battling the flu [11:13] so what actually needs to happen when the changes land? [11:13] seed vbox-guest-dkms and drop -legacy? [11:20] yes [11:22] LocutusOfBorg, ok, I will try in the morning when the mirrors have synced up [11:22] thanks [11:22] I did this [11:23] install daily image or beta2 [11:23] enable xenial, xenial-updates xenial-backports xenial-proposed [11:23] apt-get install virtualbox-guest-dkms [11:23] apt-get dist-upgrade [11:25] reboot [11:25] (I also tried without dist-upgrade and after) [11:26] I tried to install the dkms, and update the kernel after, just to see if the module was still working [11:26] and in each case I checked apt-get remove xserver-xorg-legacy [11:26] and it wasn't installed [11:26] darkxst, take care of your health :) [11:27] LocutusOfBorg, xserver-xorg-legacy is seeded on our images, 100% sure of that [11:27] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/daily-live/20160419/ [11:27] here? [11:28] ubuntu-gnome [11:28] I did try everything with ubuntu [11:28] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-gnome/daily-live/20160419/ [11:28] thanks [11:28] I can try that one too [11:29] LocutusOfBorg, ubuntu is still lauching lightdm and the user Xorg as root [11:29] darkxst, how [11:29] the legacy package is not installed in the ubuntu/daily-live [11:29] I don't know it will be in lightdm somewhere [11:30] gdm has proper support for root-less Xorg [11:30] what is the default? [11:30] so gdm runs a gdm user and user Xorg as the user [11:30] LocutusOfBorg, which default? [11:31] I install ubuntu/daily-live [11:31] without changing a bit [11:31] LocutusOfBorg, we are not ubuntu! read the channel name again ;) [11:32] we use gdm, ubuntu uses lightdm [11:32] yes, I know that [11:32] and I'm already trying the ubuntu-gnome/daily-live [11:32] ps aux | grep X on the ubuntu images from today, shows lightdm running as root [11:33] ok [11:33] I'm a gnome user, but I install it on top of the ubuntu images [11:33] :) [11:34] not sure why I don't pick the ubuntu-gnome flavour [11:34] LocutusOfBorg, with gdm or lightdm? [11:34] I tried both until wilu [11:34] wily [11:34] I usually try both and choose one [11:35] e.g. IIRC lightdm was bad until trusty with gnome [11:35] (e.g. no way to lock screen from graphic) [11:35] and with vivid IIRC wasn't even working with lightdm [11:35] with wily I use lightdm [11:35] with xenial I'll see [11:36] LocutusOfBorg, yes, I patched a few bits of the GNOME stack to work with lightdm, but we don't really support that config [11:37] what is the difference between ubuntu-gnome and ubuntu with apt-get install gnome-shell? [11:38] mainly a different packageset, lightdm doesnt work 100% with GNOME integration like gdm [11:44] gdm and gnome-shell are very tightly coupled [11:45] * darkxst sleeps .... [12:12] you can install ubuntu and cross-upgrade into ubuntu-gnome, but it'll take a bit more than just apt installing gnome-shell [12:12] there are some metapackages that pull in everything [12:12] IIRC the wiki has instructions somewhere [12:31] darkxst, I did install ubuntu-gnome daily [12:32] apt-get dist-upgrade and install of virtualbox-guest-dkms [12:32] at reboot I have a shell, no gdm [12:32] but startx works [12:32] with and without the legacy package [12:36] interesting [12:36] gdm doesn't start by default [12:36] but lightdm does [12:43] IIRC you need to use `sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm` and select the display manager you prefer [12:43] maybe `sudo dpkg-reconfigure -p LOW gdm`, I don't remember the details -- I'd look for a /usr/share/docs/gdm/README.Debian* to describe this [12:44] ah, no, gdm's README.Debian doesn't say :/ [12:45] or, if you're feeling brave, you can apt remove lightdm [12:45] when there's only one display manager installed, there's no need to choose which one you want ;) [12:47] LocutusOfBorg, lightdm is not on our images [12:47] thanks mgedmin but I don't have such issues [12:48] darkxst, I did apt-get install lightdm, selected it, rebooted and it started correctly [12:48] interestingly enough, even with gdm, a startx works [12:48] I know it isn't seeded [12:48] LocutusOfBorg, yeh because it runs as root? [12:48] indeed [12:49] which defies the entire point of root-less X [12:49] but with gdm I don't do sudo startx [12:49] just a startx [12:49] let me check [12:49] LocutusOfBorg, how do you even get the fd for the gpu with vbox UMS drivers? [12:55] what? [13:07] ok, strange [13:07] I did install the live daily build [13:07] updated with -proposed pocket [13:07] removed xorg-legacy package [13:07] reboot, the system blinks for a minute or two [13:08] (same happens in debian) [13:08] installed the guest-dkms and guest-utils [13:08] rebooted [13:08] everything seems good [13:08] with gdm of course [13:08] locutus@locutus-VirtualBox:~$ ps axu |grep gdm [13:08] root 731 0.0 0.1 289912 7064 ? Ssl 15:07 0:00 /usr/sbin/gdm3 [13:08] root 738 0.0 0.1 242532 7252 ? Sl 15:07 0:00 gdm-session-worker [pam/gdm-autologin] [13:08] locutus 784 0.0 0.1 197648 7584 tty7 Ssl+ 15:07 0:00 /usr/lib/gdm3/gdm-x-session --run-script gnome-session --session=gnome [13:08] locutus 792 0.8 0.7 236024 40904 tty7 S+ 15:07 0:00 /usr/lib/xorg/Xorg vt7 -displayfd 3 -auth /run/user/1000/gdm/Xauthority -background none -noreset -keeptty -verbose 3 [13:09] locutus@locutus-VirtualBox:~$ uname -a [13:09] Linux locutus-VirtualBox 4.4.0-21-generic #37-Ubuntu SMP Mon Apr 18 18:33:37 UTC 2016 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux [13:10] not sure what does it mean [13:10] but I can remove the legacy package, and have everything working with guest-dkms and gdm [13:11] darkxst, sorry for not letting you sleep [13:11] trying lightdm now [13:14] locutus@locutus-VirtualBox:~$ ps axu |grep -i xorg [13:14] locutus 790 2.6 0.9 249376 53976 tty7 S+ 15:13 0:00 /usr/lib/xorg/Xorg vt7 -displayfd 3 -auth /run/user/1000/gdm/Xauthority -background none -noreset -keeptty -verbose 3 [13:14] locutus 1682 0.0 0.0 18488 976 pts/0 S+ 15:14 0:00 grep --color=auto -i xorg [13:14] seems I'm running a rootless gdm3 session correctly [13:58] + === aday is now known as aavery === alvesadrian is now known as adrian [20:48] are there any shortcommands for opening "files"?