[03:13] <LibertyWeNeed> I just tried to connect to Ubuntu chatroom and a pop up message says i have been banned. Does anyone know why?
[03:13] <LibertyWeNeed> I am using Adium for Mac
[03:13] <LibertyWeNeed> And I had to recently reinstall my OS, which meant setting up IRC again
[03:13] <zykotick9> LibertyWeNeed: you made it ok ;)
[03:14] <LibertyWeNeed> zykotick9, thanks
[08:44] <k1l> LibertyWeNeed: hi
[08:45] <LibertyWeNeed> hello
[08:47] <k1l> the hoster you use is banned from the ubuntu channels due to offering free vpns and proxies that were used by malicious people to disturb the channels
[08:48] <LibertyWeNeed> ?
[08:49] <LibertyWeNeed> I think this a false positive
[08:49] <LibertyWeNeed> I haven't had any troubles before
[08:50] <k1l> what channel are we talking about?
[08:50] <LibertyWeNeed> #ubuntu
[08:51] <k1l> do you use a vpn?
[08:52] <LibertyWeNeed> I don't have one on this computer, but my router has one
[08:53] <k1l> yeah, looking at your ips you joined with, you are using vpns. this one you use was abused by trolls. so that ip range got banned.
[08:54] <LibertyWeNeed> What am I suppose to do?
[08:54] <k1l> use another vpn which doesnt get abused and doesnt get banned then. or use your real ip to connect.
[08:58] <LibertyWeNeed> I can't use my real IP otherwise I can't access the internet properly, doesn't function properly with blocked sites, bandwidth throttling, DPI (assuming) and alot of other stuff. Also I can't change my VPN provider because it has been paid for and I have no other issues other than when trying to connect to Ubuntu. I don't understand why I must be punished for what others have done.
[08:58] <Myrtti> other options include bouncers and similar services
[08:59] <LibertyWeNeed> I don't know what that means
[09:02] <Myrtti> bouncer is a software running on a remote server (so not reliant on your ip) that you connect your client to just like you would to a server. It handles the connection to the IRC networks, and thus, displays the remote servers ip, not yours.
[09:03] <LibertyWeNeed> So what do I have to do?
[09:17] <k1l> or make an accound on kiwiirc.com
[09:17] <LibertyWeNeed> maybe, but I think it's more trouble than its worth since I did nothing wrong
[09:18] <k1l> LibertyWeNeed: the problem is you are using a vpn service that got abused by trolls very often and is now banned. while you did nothing wrong you cant use that vpn service anymore to use the ubuntu channel.
[09:19] <LibertyWeNeed> What do I tell my VPN provider then? or ask them
[09:19] <LibertyWeNeed> ?
[09:21] <Myrtti> there are other options, such as irccloud or requesting a ban exemption.
[09:21] <k1l> ban excemption doesnt make sense, since he uses a vpnwith changing ips.
[09:22] <LibertyWeNeed> I don't have control over what IP's i get other than the country
[09:23] <Myrtti> k1l: not even on an account name ;-?
[09:29] <LibertyWeNeed> I think this is an example of discrimination by association. I would appreciate if you can un ban me. But if not I may have to reconsider using the Ubuntu chatroom which is sad.
[09:30] <k1l> LibertyWeNeed: we are not discriminating you. you could easily connect with your real ip
[09:30] <k1l> or with other options we named you already
[09:31] <LibertyWeNeed> That is dangerous for me to do. Besides why go to this extra effort. I have a registered IRC account, so you can look up to see if it was me or not.
[09:31] <LibertyWeNeed> I can't reveal my IP because the internet is useless without it
[09:31] <LibertyWeNeed> without the vpn
[09:33] <LibertyWeNeed> I think I will just stick with trisquel and other more accepting IRC channels
[09:34] <LibertyWeNeed> I am sorry you don't understand.
[09:35] <popey> LibertyWeNeed: to be fair the only conversations you've started in #ubuntu recently have been offtopic
[09:35] <popey> so other channels might be better for your discussion topics anyway.
[09:37] <LibertyWeNeed> If I really was a troll do you think I would be complaining about it and using the same username? I am leaving right now because I feel that the Ubuntu community has forgotten why it started. Good bye folks
[09:38] <popey> Ok then.
[09:38] <Myrtti> for the record, most extbans work in all the banlike modes, so b,q,e,I can work with $a:accountname
[09:39] <Myrtti> someone was just reminded to add that to the new kb.
[16:12] <Pici> tomorrow...
[16:17] <Pici> just a reminder to not switch factoids, at release, poke me about changing the config variables and most things should apply automagically.
[17:03] <PsychoBoB> please guys
[17:03] <PsychoBoB> remove me that list of banned users in #ubuntu
[17:04] <PsychoBoB> I cannot join in the channel
[17:05] <Pici> PsychoBoB: one moment
[17:06] <k1l> hi PsychoBoB
[17:06] <k1l> so you know why you were banned back then?
[17:10] <PsychoBoB> no... =(
[17:11] <k1l> well, trolled #ubuntu with playing a dumb user that could not properly speak english.
[17:11] <k1l> !guidelines | PsychoBoB please read the channel rules
[17:12] <PsychoBoB> k1l, I don't speak english man
[17:12] <PsychoBoB> I'm learning
[17:12] <PsychoBoB> Sorry
[17:12] <Pici> What is your native language?
[17:12] <PsychoBoB> portuguese
[17:12] <PsychoBoB> I am from Brazil
[17:13] <k1l> PsychoBoB: then you dont want to use #ubuntu anyway. better ask in #ubuntu-br
[17:13] <Pici> PsychoBoB: #ubuntu-br would probably be better for you then.  They have rules too though: http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/IRC/Regras
[17:14] <PsychoBoB> But i want use two chanells
[17:14] <k1l> PsychoBoB: if you dont understand english that doesnt make sense.
[17:14] <PsychoBoB> why not?
[17:14] <k1l> last times you only made nonsense and trollt in #ubuntu. that is the reason you got banned.
[17:14] <PsychoBoB> it's obligatory speak english?
[17:15] <Pici> In #ubuntu, yes.
[17:15] <PsychoBoB> this ban is equal to life imprisonment?
[17:15] <k1l> and since you dont want to read the channel rules that only tells us you want to troll again.
[17:15] <PsychoBoB> I never will can go to ubuntu?
[17:16] <k1l> you say you dont understand english and dont want to read the channel rules. so that doesnt make sense you go to #ubuntu anyway.
[17:17] <PsychoBoB> I read the rules
[17:17] <PsychoBoB> And I'm learning English
[17:18] <PsychoBoB> It's very several this ban
[17:20] <k1l_> ok so you have read the channel guidelines and will follow them in future? this is already your second chance, keep that in mind.
[17:24] <PsychoBoB> do you not help me
 ok so you have read the channel guidelines and will follow them in future? this is already your second chance, keep that in mind.
[17:25] <k1l_> do you have read the guidelines and will follow the channel rules in future?
[17:26] <PsychoBoB> Yeah!
[17:26] <PsychoBoB> I agree
[17:27] <PsychoBoB> I need knows more about the new ubuntu
[17:27] <PsychoBoB> 16.04
[17:27] <k1l_> ok, i will remove the ban. be keep in mind, that you already were banned and snother ban will not be lifted that easy
[17:30] <k1l_> PsychoBoB: if that is all please leave this channel.
[17:31] <PsychoBoB> here just ops?
[17:32] <k1l_> yes
[17:32] <PsychoBoB> ok
[17:32] <PsychoBoB> not to be rude withe me, i don't know it
[17:33] <PsychoBoB> bye k1l_ and thanks for the gelp
[17:33] <PsychoBoB> help
[17:33] <k1l_> ok, bye.
[17:33] <Pici> er, okay