[00:13] <mhall119> sergiusens: I just picked the webbrowser-app from the "default applications" settings
[00:13] <mhall119> not sure what you're asking about with containers
[00:35] <sergiusens> mhall119 I was talking about launching an app with its own desktop file using webapp-container (like the twitter click)
[00:35] <sergiusens> mhall119 thanks for the former
[00:36] <mhall119> sergiusens: ah, haven't tried that yet
[01:04] <ogra_> sergiusens, you mean running them in parallel ? that works fine
[01:05] <ogra_> sergiusens, http://people.canonical.com/~ogra/slack-webapp_0.1_all.deb ... take a look at that
[01:06] <ogra_> (oh, i even made a branch ... easier to inspect https://code.launchpad.net/~ogra/+junk/slack-webapp)
[04:44] <lotuspsychje> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/04/meizu-pro-5-ubuntu-edition-video-review
[04:57] <ycerd> I have received an 8.8MB update `Ubuntu Version: 12' on my MX4. After downloading, it says `Installation failed'. What is wrong?
[05:00] <ycerd> Here's the output from `sudo system-image-cli -vv`: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15941462/
[07:10] <nhaines> mpt: a little off topic, but I need to poke someone about a merge proposal to lp:example-content.  Do you have any idea who might be good to talk to?
[07:13] <mpt> nhaines, I don窶冲 sorry. The maintainer listed in Launchpad hasn窶冲 worked on Ubuntu for about seven years afaik.
[07:14] <nhaines> Hm.  And my plan to harass dholbach fails because he's not online.  :)
[07:14] <mpt> Maybe see if dholbach can appoint a new maintainer?
[07:14] <mpt> ah
[07:15] <nhaines> Or maybe Sebastian Bacher, but I'm not sure of his nick.
[07:16] <nhaines> I think it's seb128 but my memorie's bad on that kind of thing!
[07:23] <nhaines> mpt: anyway, thanks for the quick response.  :)
[07:32] <RAOF> nhaines: You are correct; seb128 is the winning nick!
[07:35] <nhaines> RAOF: great!  I've been staring at my screen for some 11 hours now,so it's all getting a little fuzzy.  ;)
[08:06] <lotuspsychje> good morning sil2100
[08:06] <sil2100> lotuspsychje: morning!
[08:07] <lotuspsychje> excited for xenial launch? :p
[08:07] <sil2100> In a way, yes ;)
[08:13] <knightwise> is that today ?
[08:13] <lotuspsychje> knightwise: tomorrow
[08:13] <lotuspsychje> !xenial | knightwise
[08:13] <ubot5`> knightwise: Ubuntu 16.04 (Xenial Xerus) will be the 24th release of Ubuntu. It is due to be released on April 21st. Discussion in #ubuntu+1 Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party
[08:14] <knightwise> lotuspsychje: looking forward to the next LTS ,
[08:14] <knightwise> running 1404 on my dell xps
[08:14] <lotuspsychje> knightwise: great, will you upgrade or wait until .1?
[08:15] <knightwise> will wait to .1
[08:15] <lotuspsychje> ok
[08:15] <knightwise> I'm taking my buntu machine to work so .. it HAS to be reliable
[08:15] <lotuspsychje> i understand
[08:16] <lotuspsychje> im helping testing bugs, so already running daily on all machines :p
[08:17] <davmor2> dobey: because it keeps getting broken in new and interesting ways
[11:06] <OrokuSaki> Damn it. I got curious.. I booted into a rootfs from a custom ramdisk to boot into .stowaways/ubuntu with a ramdisk from ArchLinux.. Then got hybris initialized like sailfish, then added some patches into cm11, and I get ION errors.. Then I tried recompiling ubuntu hybris to include the hybris LD path for the sailfish compiled android libs.. ION error.. I tried compiling mer libhybris... that doesn't work with your mir hwcom
[11:06] <OrokuSaki> You guys need a caf branch, that is supported by canonical... I tried these 2 dudes caf branches, but they didn't work.. and I dont think those projects cover a lot of devices
[11:08] <dpm> pitti, sil2100, is there a way to get a list of the languages (i.e. language packs) we preinstall on our phone images?
[11:08] <sil2100> dpm: yes, in the seed (or just taking the list from the manifest)
[11:08] <pitti> dpm: the images should have a manifest
[11:08] <sil2100> dpm: let me fetch you that quickly
[11:08] <OrokuSaki> gedit "build/core/main.mk add this to were the other device entires are: device/hp \ " if I had my vendor/hp and device/hp entries to that file... then it tries to build more hardware modules ie sensor.tenderloin.so and etc, but bombs on graphics
[11:09] <pitti> or do they
[11:09] <pitti> I don't see it on e. g. http://system-image.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch/stable/bq-aquaris.en/krillin/
[11:09] <OrokuSaki> I also tried taking the ubuntu folder from phablet and tossing it into cm11 and compiling the compat folder....
[11:09] <sil2100> pitti: it's not on system-image
[11:09] <sil2100> pitti: it's on cdimage, I have a script for easily fetching those
[11:09] <OrokuSaki> I just came into hear to say.. YOU NEED caf. =) And.. "damn" nice FORK. !!!!
[11:09] <OrokuSaki> One hell of a fork
[11:09] <OrokuSaki> Mir sucks
[11:09] <OrokuSaki> =)
[11:10] <sil2100> dpm, pitti: the language-packs: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15945376/
[11:10] <pitti> thanks
[11:11] <OrokuSaki> But I did get libhybris working without the LXC container on ubuntu touch. \m/
[11:11] <sil2100> dpm, pitti: those are the ones we currently ship
[11:11] <dpm> thanks a lot pitti and sil2100!
[11:11] <ogra_> pitti, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch/vivid/daily-preinstalled/current/
[11:12] <ogra_> thats the cdimage dir where system-image picks them up ... (and tehere is the manifest)
[11:12] <sil2100> pitti: you can get earlier manifests when browsing http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/cd-build-logs/ubuntu-touch/vivid/
[11:12] <OrokuSaki> All that work... 2 years ago.. no more caf devices.. you guys suck! Except for ogra... Tadaow!
[11:12] <sil2100> Or use lp:landing-team-tools get-image-manifest helper script
[11:12] <ogra_> lol
[11:13] <ogra_> whats a caf device ?
[11:14] <sil2100> Not sure, I thought you'd know - being the only one that doesn't suck!
[11:14] <sil2100> ;)
[11:16] <dpm> pitti, do you happen to remember if there is a CLI tool that returns language names from ISO codes?
[11:17] <pitti> dpm: not a CLI tool, but simple enough to get from /usr/share/xml/iso-codes/iso_639.xml or /usr/share/xml/iso-codes/iso_639_3.xml
[11:17] <dpm> thanks pitti. I seemed to remember there was a tool that read those, but perhaps I was mistaken
[11:18] <pitti> dpm: we use that to generate http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-langpack/langpack-o-matic/main/view/head:/maps/languages and http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-langpack/langpack-o-matic/main/view/head:/maps/countries which might be simpler to look at /grep
[11:18] <dpm> thanks
[13:15] <dobey> davmor2: the calendar does, you mean?
[13:19] <davmor2> dobey: no the age of the emulator
[13:20] <dobey> oh
[13:20] <davmor2> dobey: Emulator keeps getting broken in new an interesting ways, everytime someone fixes it someone else breaks it
[13:21]  * dobey blames mir
[13:21] <dobey> must be mir's fault right? :P
[13:24] <davmor2> dobey: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/phablet-tools/+bug/1565685
[13:24] <ubot5`> Launchpad bug 1565685 in Canonical System Image "Ubuntu-emulator: Crash in new welcome wizard / browser" [Critical,Confirmed]
[13:25] <ogra_> davmor2, did you notice that searching for packages on phone/tablet suddenly started showing snap packages ?
[13:26] <davmor2> ogra_: no but I haven't searched recently
[13:26] <ogra_> search for "filemanager" .... shows me an upnp-server snap
[13:27] <davmor2> ogra_: search for ubuntu-core and I see webdm-app
[13:28] <dobey> huh really?
[13:28] <davmor2> ogra_: confirmed upnp-server-armhf when searching for filemanager
[13:28]  * davmor2 blames JamesTait 
[13:29] <ogra_> yeah, all his fault
[13:29] <davmor2> oh wait it ogra_ snap that is showing it's all ogra_ 's fault
[13:30] <dobey> hmm, canonical-pi2 is in there too
[13:30] <JamesTait> ogra_, suddenly as in when?
[13:31] <ogra_> JamesTait, dunno ... i installed my other tablet 10 days ago or so ... when i searched for filemanager there i definitely didnt have the upnp-server snap as return value
[13:31] <dobey> the Erle stuff too
[13:32] <JamesTait> ogra_, when did you first notice?  Just now?
[13:32] <ogra_> yes, just setting up my new tablet
[13:33] <JamesTait> Ack, and reproduced on my phone.
[13:34] <JamesTait> Approximately 14 minutes ago we switched CPI to an upgraded environment, which is why I'm pointedly trying to narrow down the timeframe.
[13:35] <JamesTait> We've also had several code rollouts over the last week.
[13:37] <davmor2> JamesTait: it doesn't help that nothing on this page screams Snap app over Click app by the look of it other than the info part so you wouldn't notice it unless you are the dev of the snap app
[13:38] <JamesTait> davmor2, that should never be an issue, because those apps should never even appear on a phone. :-/
[13:38] <davmor2> JamesTait: Indeed but you broke it so now it does :P
[13:39] <JamesTait> Well... we might have broken it before, but nobody noticed.
[13:40] <davmor2> ogra_: told you it was JamesTait fault though didn't I, it has nothing to do with me always blaming JamesTait for store stuff at all you understand ;)
[13:43] <mardy> mzanetti: the 1 line change that made the Ubuntu phone kick ass: https://code.launchpad.net/~mzanetti/unity8/rotate-dash/+merge/292377
[13:44] <ogra_> mardy, doesnt that break sidestage handling ?
[13:44] <mzanetti> lol
[13:44] <mzanetti> no, it doesn't
[13:45] <ogra_> ah, i thought that was the reason it was held back for so long
[13:45]  * ogra_ uses that hack since ages :P
[13:46] <popey> haha, excellent mardy :)
[14:44] <JamesTait> ogra_, did you unpublish that upnp snap, perchance?
[14:44] <ogra_> JamesTait, not that i remember
[14:45] <JamesTait> Just I'm not seeing it when I search for filemanager on my krillin now.
[14:53] <davmor2> JamesTait: confirmed I don't see it now, I wonder ogra_ did you update it to 16?
[14:54] <JamesTait> Heisenbugs!
[14:54] <tsdgeos> sil2100: Mirv: who would be the best person to backport lttng-ust from xenial to vivid overlay?
[14:55] <tsdgeos> sil2100: Mirv: i just compiled 2.7.1 on the phone without issues and it fixes the deadlocking problem i have with the vivid version
[15:00] <ogra_> davmor2, nope, didnt
[15:50] <realtribe> hi
[15:51] <realtribe> i need a help to install ubuntu touch on nexus 7
[15:51] <lotuspsychje> realtribe: whats going on mate
[15:54] <realtribe> so..i tryed to install ubuntu touch but when i write "ubuntu-device-flash --channel=devel --bootstrap" it answer flag error..
[15:54] <realtribe> what i can do?
[15:55] <ogra_> call ubuntu-device-flash with the proper command ?
[15:55] <ogra_> and also never ever use the devel channel :)
[15:55] <ogra_> its dead beef, not for bein used by anyone
[15:55] <ogra_> (teh right command is "ubuntu-device-flash touch --channel= ....."
[15:56] <ogra_> )
[15:57] <realtribe> ookey now i try...but what is the complete command?
[16:00] <realtribe> ookey i tryed but it aswer :"lorco@lorco-desktop:~$ ubuntu-device-flash touch --channel=ubuntu-touch/stable/ubuntu  2016/04/20 17:59:23 Expecting the device to expose an adb interface... device cannot be detected over adb"
[16:00] <ubot5`> Error: Ubuntu bug 2016 could not be found
[16:01] <ogra_> boot to recovery and make sure "adb devices" sees it
[16:02] <realtribe> yes it aswer lorco@lorco-desktop:~$ adb devices List of devices attached  015d4b33e5380213	sideload
[16:02] <realtribe> but don't work..
[16:07] <realtribe> sideload? it's right?
[16:09] <realtribe> lorco@lorco-desktop:~$ ubuntu-device-flash touch --channel=ubuntu-touch/stable/ubuntu --bootstrap 2016/04/20 18:08:49 Expecting the device to be in the bootloader... waiting 2016/04/20 18:08:50 Device is |grouper| Device grouper not found on server https://system-image.ubuntu.com channel ubuntu-touch/stable/ubuntu
[16:09] <realtribe> and now?
[16:09] <realtribe> please help me
[16:11] <sebsebseb> ok so
[16:11] <sebsebseb> I got my Ubuntu tablet came today :)
[16:11] <sebsebseb> and I knew  that meant to apparatly use a bluetooth mouse and keyboard with it
[16:11] <sebsebseb> read plenty of stuff saying that
[16:11] <sebsebseb> etc etc
[16:11] <sebsebseb> ,but yes I don't have  those currently
[16:11] <sebsebseb> and so can't erally type on it
[16:12] <ogra_> why not ?
[16:12] <sebsebseb> only time the touch screen keyboard came up was to set up the wireless password
[16:12] <ogra_> the OSK works fine on mine
[16:12] <sebsebseb> and it comes up to unlock it as well that's it
[16:12] <sebsebseb> it's  the HD version as well
[16:12] <ogra_> same here
[16:12] <sebsebseb> ogra_: oh how come you got the HD rather than FHD?
[16:12] <ogra_> err, i got the FHD, sorry
[16:13] <sebsebseb> I can move around   instead of the cursour on the touh screne, but I really can't type
[16:13] <ogra_> anyway, the image should behave exactly the same (since it is the same rootfs)
[16:13] <sebsebseb> ogra_: yeah I'll probably buy the FHD at a later date, when got more moeny as well :d
[16:13] <sebsebseb> have both versions :d, but for now nope
[16:13] <sebsebseb> I know very similar
[16:13] <ogra_> so if you tap in a search field anywhere in the UI or in the browser url bar there is no keyboard coming up ?
[16:13] <sebsebseb> yep from what I have seen
[16:14] <sebsebseb> I have tried gedit I have tried
[16:14] <sebsebseb> browsers I have tred...
[16:14] <sebsebseb> nothing
[16:14] <ogra_> gedit wont work
[16:14] <ogra_> none of the X apps will be hooked up to the OSK
[16:14] <ogra_> use the native apps
[16:15] <sebsebseb> oh ok that explains it
[16:15] <sebsebseb> I think
[16:15] <sebsebseb> ok comes up in the default brwoser
[16:15] <ogra_> (neither gedit, libreoffice, firefox, gimp or xchat will have OSK)
[16:15] <realtribe> help help help..please..i loockig for channel for grouper version..
[16:15] <ogra_> realtribe, grouper ?!?
[16:15] <ogra_> realtribe, thats not supported since two years or so
[16:15] <ogra_> was dropped long ago ... use android ...
[16:16] <sebsebseb> ogra_: so it's for Firefox and thigns like that, that need the bluetooth keyboard?
[16:18] <sebsebseb> ogra_: any recomendations on bluetoothe mous eand keyboard
[16:18] <sebsebseb> I been looking at amazon
[16:18] <sebsebseb>  etc
[16:18] <sebsebseb> if I order something in the next hour and a half or so I would even have by tommorwo I Think
[16:18] <sebsebseb> with one day delivery option
[16:20] <realtribe> what i can use like same grouper?
[16:22] <popey> sebsebseb: logitech k480
[16:23] <ogra_> sebsebseb, i have a k480 from logitech
[16:23] <ogra_> its a bit clunky ... but thanks to the slot at the top yu can actually use the whole set like a laptop
[16:25] <ogra_> sebsebseb, mediamarkt sells them in germany ... in case you dont want to wait for delivery ;)
[16:25] <realtribe> what i can use like same grouper
[16:25] <lotuspsychje> ogra_: for real?
[16:25] <realtribe> please help me..
[16:26] <ogra_> lotuspsychje, yes, they are real k480 keyboards
[16:26] <lotuspsychje> cool
[16:26] <ogra_> :)
[16:27] <ogra_> realtribe, you mean another tablet ?
[16:27] <ogra_> the flo works ... the deb seems to have a community supported image
[16:28] <ogra_> or you could order a bq M10 ...
[16:28] <sebsebseb> popey: ogra_ ok good my o2g device is working  just tried a keyboard like that a normal USB one
[16:29] <ogra_> yeah., that works too
[16:29] <popey> super
[16:29] <sebsebseb> popey: yeah that's the lilke recommended bluetooth at the moment, but seems expensive,  plus it's not laminated
[16:30] <realtribe> ogra  i need to fix this tablet..how i can do?
[16:30] <sebsebseb> ogra_: I could order something on amzon and get tommorow I think if do it in he next hour or so
[16:31] <ogra_> realtribe, install android
[16:31] <sebsebseb> ogra_: popey what's a good see in the dark as well bluetooth keyboard, I don't think the k480 has that feature
[16:31]  * ogra_ doesnt know 
[16:31] <sebsebseb> seems linksys got another one that is for like 60 pounds though
[16:32] <sebsebseb> and that's just the keyboard
[16:32] <sebsebseb> or there are cheapewr makes on amazon even
[16:32] <popey> no idea
[16:33] <sebsebseb> popey: ogra_ What's so good about the k480 really what makes it so great, why's it so hyped up? other than being from september 2015 so new
[16:33] <sebsebseb> same for the recommended mouse I guess, but not as much
[16:33] <ogra_> it has that slot at the top
[16:33] <sebsebseb> which slot?
[16:33] <ogra_> there is a slot at the top where you can put the tablet in so it behaves like a laptop
[16:33]  * Mirv votes for buying a shell account for IRCing to tsdgeos
[16:33] <ogra_> just a kind-of stand
[16:34] <sebsebseb> oh?
[16:34] <Mirv> hard to answer, and I won't remember it tomorrow
[16:34] <sebsebseb> but I saw some other keyboard on amazon with a free stand with it for a lot cheaper as well
[16:34] <sebsebseb> ogra_: k480 doesn't have backlit though?
[16:34] <ogra_> try to use a free stand with the thing on your lap when sitting on a sofa :)
[16:34] <sebsebseb> apparnatly backlist keyboards are meant to be so good, and I don't  have one
[16:35] <sebsebseb> ogra_: with he thing Ubuntu tablet?
[16:35] <ogra_> the whole thing ... kbd and tablet
[16:35] <sebsebseb> I am kind of up for buying two blue tooth keyboards with reason
[16:35] <popey> I have had an illuminated keyboard
[16:35] <sebsebseb> same for mouses
[16:35] <popey> They're overrated
[16:35] <dobey> hmm
[16:35] <sebsebseb> maybe a like k480 and  then something illuminated
[16:35] <ogra_> popey, totalyl not !
[16:35] <popey> i dont tend to use my computers in the dark, underground
[16:36] <popey> also, I tend to know where the keys are :)
[16:36]  * ogra_ doesnt want to miss his backlit kbds ... but for the tablet i found the builting stand/slot thing more important
[16:36] <ogra_> *builtin
[16:37] <sebsebseb> even on this lap top I can type in the dark, I am atouch typist to, but  would be nice at times to see someo f the keys actsaully
[16:37]  * sebsebseb is a vampire likes the dark
[16:37]  * sebsebseb must feed on popey as a victum
[16:37] <sebsebseb> Canonical geek blood tastes better than normal humans apparnatly h eh
[16:38] <sebsebseb> ogra_: you think a good stand is better for tablet?
[16:38] <sebsebseb> that's something else I am not sure about standds etc
[16:39] <ogra_> sebsebseb, i like to use the tablet with keyboard like a laptop ... i.e. on my lap ... with no desk around
[16:39] <sebsebseb> ogra_: what stand would you recommend for the Ubuntu tablet?
[16:39] <sebsebseb> ideally on amazon since I might buy something in the next hour or so from there
[16:39] <sebsebseb> for the tablet/s
[16:39] <ogra_> dunno, anything that keeps it upright i guess :)
[16:39] <ogra_> i dont have that prob since i have that logitech kbd
[16:39] <ogra_> dont need an extra stand
[16:40] <sebsebseb> ogra_: would this be worth buying, or is it so cheap for a reason: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Bluetooth-Keyboard-Wireless-Backlit-Android/dp/B00ZBN6JSI/ref=sr_1_50?ie=UTF8&qid=1461083421&sr=8-50&keywords=bluetooth+backlit+keyboard
[16:40] <davmor2> sebsebseb: I would personally get the logitech bt keyboard it has a slot for phone/tablet in it the it functions like a laptop
[16:40] <genii> I have a nice clear acrylic stand that works great and was like $5 at Walmart
[16:40] <sebsebseb> davmor2: the m480 you mean?
[16:41]  * ogra_ guesses he means the k480
[16:41] <sebsebseb> yep the k480 I meant
[16:41] <davmor2> k480
[16:41] <sebsebseb> davmor2: so it has some kind of stand as part of that for tablets and phones?
[16:41] <ogra_> it has the slot at the top
[16:41] <ogra_> you plug the tablet in and it stands like a laptop lid
[16:41] <davmor2> sebsebseb: http://www.johnlewis.com/logitech-k480-multi-device-bluetooth-keyboard/p1803195?sku=234130711&kpid=234130711&s_kenid=8749aa3c-f8a8-4a46-9ab0-c626db0ddf20&s_kwcid=402x354964&tmad=c&tmcampid=73
[16:42] <sebsebseb> I know it seems meant to buy the k480 really,  but I kind of want a lamanted one to,  so maybe I'll buy a seperate lamanted one as well. such as the one I linked to?
[16:42] <ogra_> that yellow thing at the top is a slightly angled slot where you can put the tablet in
[16:42] <sebsebseb> davmor2: yeah there's some kind of bundle on amazon for  the grey one
[16:42] <ogra_> in the end any BT keyboard will do
[16:43]  * ogra_ used an old logitech di-novo in the beginning before he had the k480
[16:43] <sebsebseb> oh so that's for putting tablet in ok
[16:43] <sebsebseb> what about the mouse?
[16:43] <ogra_> scroll the picture gallery down a bit
[16:43] <sebsebseb> and hold on be right back or back soon
[16:43] <ogra_> there are pics with a phone sitting in the slot so you get an impression
[16:44] <davmor2> sebsebseb: or just watch the video on my link
[16:56] <bhdouglass> Hey, beuno or jamestait or whoever can help me out here. uApp Explorer is getting inconsistent results from the click store api, is something wrong with the api? For example, this page: https://search.apps.ubuntu.com/api/v1/search?page=6&size=500 usually gives me a full page of results, but occasionally when refreshing it, it will be empty.
[16:56] <beuno> bhdouglass, hi!
[16:57] <beuno> we deployed a big update to that service today
[16:57] <beuno> so this is interesting
[16:57] <beuno> bhdouglass, we'll look into that and get back to you
[16:58] <bhdouglass> Prefect, thank you! uApp Explorer has been adding and removing apps today, the users have started to notice! :)
[16:58] <ogra_> "deployed and upgrade" is the new "we broke the world" :)
[16:59] <ogra_> (this is the store people followint the snappy team here ... )
[16:59] <ogra_> **following
[16:59] <davmor2> ogra_: then stop deploying and upgrading now wonder the world is so broken
[17:00] <ogra_> where would be the fun in that
[17:00] <ogra_> also ... if we dont break everything every second update, how the heck would the sentence "snappy will fix that" still work
[17:00] <realtribe> ubuntu
[17:01] <ogra_> ubuntu !
[17:01] <davmor2> 蘒ｿ\o/蘒ｿ ubuntu 蘒ｿ\o/蘒ｿ
[17:16] <sebsebseb> davmor2: oh ok I see,  it can fit more than one in it even
[17:17] <sebsebseb> davmor2: looks like it's that amazon bundle offer or something then
[17:26] <sebsebseb> ogra_: what does x386 in this one mean? https://www.amazon.co.uk/TeckNet-Illuminated-Ultra-Slim-Li-polymer-Rechargeable/dp/B00YNKO7F2/ref=pd_bxgy_147_img_2?ie=UTF8&refRID=JSDCG468GB031W9RCMSQ
[17:26] <sebsebseb> popey: ^^^
[17:28] <popey> sebsebseb: model number?
[17:30] <sebsebseb> popey: there are a few options
[17:30] <sebsebseb> popey: I think it's to do with size
[17:30] <sebsebseb> look on the page
[17:31] <popey> it's the model number
[17:31] <popey> http://www.tecknet.co.uk/x366.html
[17:32] <sebsebseb> popey: it sas like ipaid air and pro and such on there to on amazon
[17:32] <sebsebseb> and then the prices are differnet to
[17:32] <popey> i know
[17:32] <sebsebseb> what does it really mean then?  that the other one is better for a ipad pro etc?
[17:33] <popey> click them and you will see
[17:33] <popey> the different models fit various apple devices
[17:33] <sebsebseb> popey: oh is that one only really for Apple devices?
[17:35] <wesleymason> bhdouglass: if you see any more issues with the search API you can also ping me
[17:36] <bhdouglass> thanks wesleymason!
[18:06] <beuno> bhdouglass, it should be fixed
[18:06] <beuno> let us know if not
[18:06] <bhdouglass> thanks beuno, I'll check it out! Out of my own curiosity, what was the problem?
[18:07] <beuno> bhdouglass, here's too much information
[18:07] <beuno> 4 < wes> nessita: beuno: one of the app servers on every 4th or 5th hit was returning an empty result and then squid was caching it...I've killed the cache and restarted gunicorn which has stopped it occuring but pulling the
[18:07] <beuno>              logs down to figure out *why*
[18:08] <bhdouglass> weird!
[18:09] <bhdouglass> It seems to be fine now, I'll have uApp Explorer re-import everything, apologies for the increased traffic!
[18:43] <wesleymason> bhdouglass: bring it on, it's all good testing :):
[18:43] <bhdouglass> challenge accepted!
[18:45] <wesleymason> https://media.giphy.com/media/3o7abB06u9bNzA8lu8/giphy.gif
[19:32] <cliftonts> Evening everyone. My emulator saga continues. I've got them booting now but it doesn't matter what channel I choose only one of them actually allows me to unlock the phone, the others don't respond to my mouse.
[19:33] <cliftonts> The one that does respond doesn't show up as booted in the SDK so I can't set the framework for it.
[19:34] <cliftonts> So what am I doing wrong?
[19:47] <Chuck-> is phablet-dev-bootstrap still the goto way to get the ubuntu-touch source for building? The manifest for repo doesn't seem to have been updated in quite some time
[19:52] <dobey> cliftonts: which channlel is the one that did boot?
[19:53] <cliftonts> UbuntuSDK i386
[19:54] <cliftonts> But for whatever reason it has that kit but the SDK doesn't recognise it has booted.
[19:54] <dobey> cliftonts: no, that's not the channel
[19:54] <dobey> cliftonts: stable, rc-proposed, etc are channels
[19:54] <cliftonts> No, but I have no idea how to discover the channel now
[19:54] <dobey> cliftonts: run "system-image-cli -i" inside the emulator
[19:55] <cliftonts> I don't understand. How do I run that inside the emulator? Install terminal?
[19:55] <dobey> cliftonts: yes, or using phablet-shell or adb shell to connect to the emulator
[19:56] <cliftonts> I can't do that if the SDK thinks it hasn't booted can I?
[19:57] <dobey> i don't really know anything about what the sdk requires to connect to the emulator
[19:57] <cliftonts> ok
[19:57] <cliftonts> Hmm, the terminal won't install.
[19:57] <dobey> if running "adb devices" shows the emulator in the list, you can connect to it
[19:58] <dobey> you did enable developer mode inside the emulator itself, right?
[19:58] <cliftonts> Ok, but I've never done that outside of the sdk. No idea of the commands.
[19:58] <dobey> i don't know if it's enabled or not
[19:58] <cliftonts> Not yet, no. I've been focussed on trying to get one to boot properly.
[19:59] <dobey> well, if it's not in developer mode, i don't think the sdk will see it
[19:59] <cliftonts> Aah, perhaps some come with it enabled as default then.
[19:59] <dobey> i don't know
[20:00] <dobey> i know you can't use the current stable image with the sdk, because it's far too old
[20:00] <cliftonts> Bingo, it's recognised now.
[20:01] <cliftonts> adb shell opens up saying vivid vervet (development branch)
[20:02] <dobey> ok
[20:02] <cliftonts> channel ubuntu-touch/vivid
[20:02] <dobey> that channel seems wrong, but eh
[20:03] <cliftonts> But it's working. That's the easy bit done. The next challenge is to compile an app I'll be taking over. I suspect I will be in for repeated headaches but I need that learning curve.
[20:08] <cliftonts> Funny thing is I was told that rc-proposed had the mouse fix in it to allow me to unlock. But that's not working.
[20:19] <cliftonts> How would I go about doing an update via command line? Can I just apt-get upgrade or is there a different method on touch?
[22:46] <Chuck-> ls
[22:56] <AuroraAvenue> Chuck, right on man, right on !
[23:38] <Chuck-> Atleast i didnt pasted my middle click buffer again three times :)