| tux|dude | Neat, 16.04 coming in less than a day | 00:15 |
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| ahoneybun | mparillo, have you had a time to look over the release post? | 00:59 |
| * ahoneybun wonders if you can log into the site | 00:59 | |
| ahoneybun | valorie, your looking at it? | 01:00 |
| mparillo | I do not think I have access. Do you have the URL? | 01:00 |
| ahoneybun | it's not public so I don't think a URL would work | 01:01 |
| ahoneybun | g2g | 01:01 |
| mparillo | And as far as testing the first release candidate, I was the only one who marked anything at: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/359/builds and nobody has done any testing on the current release candidate, because yofel said they are respinning anyway. | 01:01 |
| telegram1 | <ovidiuflorin>: https://twitter.com/MarkRuan0122/status/719719088801628160 | 05:20 |
| telegram1 | <ovidiuflorin>: Have these been fixed? | 05:21 |
| telegram1 | <ovidiuflorin>: The password thing I think was fixed, right? | 05:21 |
| * valorie downloads all the zsyncs so that I can torrent the finals as soon as they are released | 05:46 | |
| valorie | I would usually have a day to do this but am leaving for LFNW a day early | 05:47 |
| palasso | hello I will spin up 7 DigitalOcean droplets (all the cities DO has servers) to seed. Are the torrents ready? | 06:32 |
| valorie | no, the final ISOs have not been released yet | 06:37 |
| valorie | pretty sure it will be around 21:00utc | 06:39 |
| valorie | date -u says it's ~6:30 | 06:39 |
| palasso | ok tyvm | 07:05 |
| yeehi | At what time today will 16.04 be released? If you are running the Beta, how do you upgrade to the final release (in order to receive the new wallpaper, etc?) | 08:49 |
| soee_ | yeehi: when Ubuntu release team do it | 09:01 |
| soee_ | if you are on beta and you do simple update it should get all latets pckages and you will be on final | 09:02 |
| yeehi | thank you soee_ ! Also, thank you for working on Kubuntu. It is so beautiful! | 09:04 |
| soee_ | indeed :) And it will be much better when Plasma 5.6 lands in backports :) | 09:05 |
| soee_ | anyway high five to all developers! :) | 09:06 |
| yeehi | Ooh! 5.6? What is especially nice about Plasma 5.6? | 09:06 |
| telegram1 | <Sick_Rimmit>: I echo that, great job, hard work and dedication, very much appreciated | 09:06 |
| soee_ | yeehi: it has a lot of bugfixes, better performance, new features etc. | 09:07 |
| soee_ | yeehi: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0TzoXhAbxg | 09:09 |
| yeehi | so, the thing to do is update to 16.04, and then when Plasma 5.6 is available in backports, upgrade that. I wonder by which date the main kubuntu release will have Plasma 5.6 | 09:11 |
| yeehi | Debian and Trisquel make available DVDs for download. These include all the packages for that architecture for that release. Why doesn't Kubuntu / Ubuntu do this? (anymore) | 09:13 |
| soee_ | do what exactly ? | 09:14 |
| yeehi | 16.04 is out for Ubuntu: http://releases.ubuntu.com/16.04/ | 09:14 |
| yeehi | oops, not yet | 09:16 |
| soee_ | :) | 09:16 |
| yeehi | soee_ If somebody would like to maintain an offline repository for Debian amd64, they can download the debian amd64 DVDs, (about 6 of them). These contain all the packages in Debian. | 09:23 |
| yeehi | There is no equivalent to this in Ubuntu | 09:23 |
| yeehi | or Kubuntu | 09:23 |
| yeehi | I think there ought to be | 09:23 |
| === kathrin__ is now known as Jemand | ||
| yeehi | KUBUNTU 16.04 is OUT!!! :) | 10:10 |
| yeehi | Three Cheers for the Developers! | 10:10 |
| kfunk | \o/ | 10:14 |
| kfunk | kubuntu.org doesn't say so | 10:15 |
| soee_ | ovidiuflorin: ping | 10:16 |
| soee_ | or yofel | 10:17 |
| telegram1 | <Clifford>: ** yawns ** what's all the shouting about? | 10:20 |
| yeehi | kfunk soee_ Kubuntu 16.04 is here: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/xenial/release/ | 10:45 |
| yofel | images are up, yes. but it's not officially released yet | 10:46 |
| yeehi | Seed, yofel :) | 10:47 |
| yofel | oh right. go ahead ;) | 10:48 |
| mparillo | zsync complete. dd running slowly. | 11:14 |
| ahoneybun | yofel, any idea about moving images to the docs server? | 11:37 |
| yofel | oh sorry, I never did reply to that | 11:37 |
| ahoneybun | np | 11:37 |
| ahoneybun | let me move to my kubuntu laptop anyway | 11:38 |
| yofel | either add your ssh key to kubuntu, then scp as that user, or first scp the images under /home/ahoneybun and move them after that | 11:38 |
| ahoneybun | mm | 11:39 |
| BluesKaj | Hiyas all | 11:39 |
| ahoneybun | yofel: so what command do I use? | 11:40 |
| ahoneybun | scp or sftp | 11:40 |
| ahoneybun | I have the image on this laptop | 11:40 |
| yofel | multiple or single image? | 11:40 |
| ahoneybun | one at a time for now | 11:40 |
| yofel | scp is easier then | 11:40 |
| ahoneybun | my ssh key might need to be updated | 11:41 |
| ahoneybun | I never get scp right or forget | 11:41 |
| clivejo | !info kubuntu-settings xenial | 11:41 |
| ubottu | Package kubuntu-settings does not exist in xenial | 11:41 |
| clivejo | !info kubuntu-settings-desktop xenial | 11:42 |
| ubottu | kubuntu-settings-desktop (source: kubuntu-settings): Settings and artwork for the Kubuntu (Desktop). In component universe, is optional. Version 1:16.04ubuntu2 (xenial), package size 2325 kB, installed size 4673 kB | 11:42 |
| ahoneybun | mm | 11:42 |
| clivejo | I guess it didnt get uploaded | 11:42 |
| yofel | scp is like cp, just with the user part before the target | 11:42 |
| yofel | clivejo: nope | 11:42 |
| yofel | it didn't | 11:42 |
| yofel | will have to be an SRU | 11:42 |
| clivejo | was it rejected? | 11:43 |
| yofel | dunno, was I supposed to do something? Because last I saw it wasn't done | 11:43 |
| * ahoneybun got it!!!!!!!! | 11:43 | |
| clivejo | I think sgclark was just researching that folder size bug and was to upload it yesterday | 11:44 |
| ahoneybun | mm so I can't move the file around on the server | 11:45 |
| ahoneybun | even as the kubuntu user | 11:47 |
| clivejo | everyone ready for the storm of user support requests ?!? | 11:52 |
| clivejo | Kubuntu killed my cat, how do I fix it | 11:55 |
| clivejo | or Kat | 11:55 |
| soee | uhm | 13:21 |
| soee | http://news.softpedia.com/news/ubuntu-16-04-lts-xenial-xerus-officially-released-available-for-download-now-503251.shtml | 13:21 |
| soee | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Ubuntu-16.04-LTS-Released | 13:21 |
| soee | good news: Mozilla has announced today they will begin packaging Firefox in the snap format for Ubuntu "later this year." | 13:24 |
| yofel | soee: I always wonder what does sites would do if an image would have to be replaced after they wrote the announcement | 13:40 |
| yofel | mparillo: are you still testing anything? If not I would mark the images as ready | 13:40 |
| soee | maybe they just want to be first to announce it :_ | 13:40 |
| yofel | I think this is as "good" as we're going to be | 13:40 |
| sgclark | sorry I was in fear that the moving of stuff around would break everything and did not want to break everything the day before release. I was unsuccessful with all my attempt with folderview. | 13:50 |
| yofel | np, sounds reasonable. We can fix it for 16.04.1 (Which will probably happen sometime in July) | 13:53 |
| sgclark | ok | 13:53 |
| yofel | hm, marco seems away, well then | 13:54 |
| * yofel markes images ready | 13:54 | |
| marco-parillo | yofel, I am trying to download the current candidate (http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/xenial/release/), but I fear even the download will not complete in time. Three to four hours left. | 13:55 |
| yofel | marco-parillo: those are the 20160420.1 images | 13:56 |
| marco-parillo | Sorry: mparillo is my KDE Identity and is what I use for the KDE bouncer, but at work, they block IRC ports. So I use webchat and use my launchpad iD (marco-parillo) at work. | 13:56 |
| * yofel uses ssh tunnels at work :P | 13:57 | |
| marco-parillo | I did grab the 20160420.1 images, but I admit I did not test. I though I saw another spin was coming. | 13:57 |
| marco-parillo | s/though/thought/ | 13:57 |
| sgclark | When exactly are the images released? I will be on a train most of today | 13:57 |
| yofel | they're public already, just the announcement is missing | 13:58 |
| marco-parillo | They are already at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/xenial/release/ | 13:58 |
| sgclark | ah | 13:58 |
| sgclark | cool | 13:58 |
| yofel | but from what I gather in -release, nobody wants to do yet another respin, even if there's issues | 13:58 |
| sgclark | is our PR group one that? *looks at podcast group* | 13:58 |
| marco-parillo | They have been for over an hour I think. | 13:58 |
| marco-parillo | Also at work, my host is Win7, so I cannot zsync. Usually that is not such a problem, but on release day it is. | 14:00 |
| yofel | FWIW, now that softpedia etc. put the announement out, you're probably best of using torrents for the rest of the day if you want to download anything ^ | 14:01 |
| yofel | ^^ | 14:01 |
| yofel | except at work, true :/ | 14:01 |
| marco-parillo | I am afraid to even try a torrent at work. | 14:02 |
| telegram1 | <Sick_Rimmit>: Could someone check the Torrents on our website, I recall a while ago they were not working ( i.e Not Seeding ) | 14:40 |
| telegram1 | <Sick_Rimmit>: I am at work so can't do it, but all the talk about torrents reminded me | 14:41 |
| yofel | I'm currently seeding them, and they seem to work fine | 14:41 |
| telegram1 | <Sick_Rimmit>: Brill. | 14:42 |
| telegram1 | <Sick_Rimmit>: I will share them on from my client later when I get home | 14:42 |
| yofel | I asked xnox to link https://kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-16-04-lts-release-anouncement from the flavor page, so please don't change that URL anyomre | 14:43 |
| yofel | can someone maybe make a new screenshot for discover on that page? The current one looks... not very great? | 14:43 |
| telegram1 | <Sick_Rimmit>: That article needs publishing too | 14:44 |
| telegram1 | <Sick_Rimmit>: It's currently showing 404 | 14:44 |
| telegram1 | <Sick_Rimmit>: Although we're not released yet so perhaps I am ahead of the curve | 14:44 |
| yofel | right, please hold off on that until the official ubuntu announcement mail | 14:44 |
| yofel | @Sick_Rimmit: do we have an updated download page yet? | 14:46 |
| yofel | I don't see one myself | 14:47 |
| * genii quietly makes another large vat of coffee and washes out everyon'e mugs | 14:49 | |
| telegram1 | <Sick_Rimmit>: @ovidiuflorin What is the status with Download page ? | 14:56 |
| MacLeod | hi! if I correctly understand, that there is no plasma 5.6.2 under 16:04 in near plans in main repo and it will appear only in backports? and now affects only to discover/notifier/muon for bugfix? | 14:56 |
| yofel | MacLeod: 16.04 will only get strict bugfixes, no new plasma. I'm not sure what you mean regarding discover? | 15:00 |
| yofel | (no new plasma in main repository) | 15:00 |
| MacLeod | i mean muon-discover and plasma-discover packages | 15:01 |
| MacLeod | ok, i see | 15:01 |
| MacLeod | thanks for answer! | 15:02 |
| yofel | muon-discover is an alias for plasma-discover now | 15:02 |
| yofel | (you can remove the first if you want) | 15:03 |
| telegram1 | <ovidiuflorin>: I haven't done anything to the download page | 15:04 |
| telegram1 | <ovidiuflorin>: if someone gives me the download links, I'll update them | 15:04 |
| telegram1 | <ovidiuflorin>: it* | 15:04 |
| sgclark | yofel: 5.6.2 is in xenial, ping ximion for details | 15:05 |
| sgclark | discover I mean | 15:05 |
| yofel | that I know, but I still don't understand what the original question was about | 15:05 |
| sgclark | ah, me eithere then | 15:06 |
| sgclark | either | 15:06 |
| yofel | @ovidiuflorin: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/xenial/release/ | 15:06 |
| yofel | as a replacement for the 15.10 section. I would leave 14.04 as a "KDE4 LTS" maybe? | 15:07 |
| telegram1 | <ovidiuflorin>: I can add a third one | 15:07 |
| telegram1 | <Sick_Rimmit>: @ovidiuflorin if its release can you publish the annoucenment | 15:07 |
| yofel | or that | 15:07 |
| yofel | WAIT | 15:07 |
| yofel | the announcement still has to wait for the mail | 15:07 |
| yofel | but with the images out, you might as well publish the download page changes | 15:08 |
| telegram1 | <ovidiuflorin>: torrent links please | 15:13 |
| telegram1 | <ovidiuflorin>: ah | 15:14 |
| telegram1 | <ovidiuflorin>: they are all there | 15:14 |
| telegram1 | <ovidiuflorin>: thank you | 15:14 |
| yofel | I wonder if the announcement should have a known issue list that tells people how to find the "Install" button on the image, as we never got that glitch fixed :/ | 15:17 |
| telegram1 | <Sick_Rimmit>: That would be helpful, perhaps with a screenshot | 15:17 |
| yofel | at least for VM users (I suspect everyone coming from plymouth text mode), as marco did say that Ubiquity-DM works fine on hardware | 15:19 |
| telegram1 | <ovidiuflorin>: download page is ready | 15:21 |
| telegram1 | <ovidiuflorin>: shall I publish it? | 15:21 |
| telegram1 | <ovidiuflorin>: Known issues is a must | 15:21 |
| telegram1 | <ovidiuflorin>: also with a link to Ubuntu Known issues | 15:21 |
| telegram1 | <ovidiuflorin>: these are a must | 15:21 |
| yofel | live session looks like this: http://people.ubuntu.com/~yofel/pics/Screenshot_20160421_172011.png | 15:22 |
| yofel | find the problem :P | 15:22 |
| telegram1 | <ovidiuflorin>: folderview size broken? | 15:23 |
| telegram1 | <ovidiuflorin>: long press on the widget, then resize | 15:23 |
| yofel | yup, tell that to someone that doesn't know how to do that. Other way is to just search for "install" in kickoff/krunner | 15:24 |
| yofel | if you click into a corner of the visible icon the launcher actually does work, it just looks horrible | 15:24 |
| telegram1 | <ovidiuflorin>: it's too late to fix it now, right? | 15:24 |
| yofel | right, will be fixed in 16.04.1 | 15:25 |
| telegram1 | <ovidiuflorin>: can I publish the updated download page? | 15:25 |
| yofel | I guess so | 15:25 |
| sgclark | yeah, I am trying to wrap my head around plasma configuration. The docs SUCK. Mixed kde4 and plasma5 crap and nothing works. | 15:25 |
| yofel | ubuntu images are still syncing to CDN, so the announcement will have to wait | 15:26 |
| telegram1 | <ovidiuflorin>: Untill I get a definetly yes, I won't publish it | 15:26 |
| yofel | then lets just publish everything in one go | 15:26 |
| telegram1 | <ovidiuflorin>: ok | 15:26 |
| telegram1 | <ovidiuflorin>: Has anyone added the release notes link to the announcement? | 15:26 |
| yofel | the upgrade wiki pages that are linked from the download page don't exist | 15:28 |
| telegram1 | <ovidiuflorin>: ah, yes.. I did | 15:28 |
| telegram1 | <ovidiuflorin>: but the release notes wiki page does not exist | 15:28 |
| telegram1 | <ovidiuflorin>: we can clone and update the beta 2 release notes? | 15:28 |
| telegram1 | <ovidiuflorin>: can someone with wiki access do that? | 15:28 |
| telegram1 | <ovidiuflorin>: I might be able to clone it, but I don't know what to update to it | 15:30 |
| yofel | I think it's c&p, with less known issues | 15:30 |
| sgclark | do we have any artwork for this release? I think we are burning DVDs @ linuxfest northwest | 15:32 |
| yofel | ahoneybun: ^ | 15:32 |
| telegram1 | <ovidiuflorin>: I've talked with Andrea to draw something for us | 15:33 |
| telegram1 | <ovidiuflorin>: I'll bug him in a few moments | 15:33 |
| soee | is there new banner for homepage / | 15:33 |
| telegram1 | <ovidiuflorin>: no | 15:33 |
| telegram1 | <ovidiuflorin>: soee do you want to make one? | 15:33 |
| telegram1 | <ovidiuflorin>: we don't have a squirrel Konqi | 15:34 |
| soee | isnt Alex how made this one ? | 15:34 |
| telegram1 | <ovidiuflorin>: I forgot | 15:35 |
| telegram1 | <ovidiuflorin>: I don't know | 15:35 |
| yofel | did someone have time to run the live session on hardware? (regarding bug 1571564) | 15:43 |
| ubottu | bug 1571564 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Unable to install Kubuntu 16.04" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1571564 | 15:43 |
| soee | ovidiuflorin: ok so Andrea shoudl take care of the banner | 15:46 |
| marco-parillo | Sorry I am at work, I can run a live session in a VM if it helps. The ISO finally downloaded. | 15:47 |
| yofel | actually, the guy next to me just went home, let me hijack his PC | 15:49 |
| === ghostcube_ is now known as ghostcube | ||
| soee | hehe Kubuntu 16.04 just around the corner https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Nvn3HxItEPk/VxjPDZxEWCI/AAAAAAAADMA/SYQ1eAcKidYDMnwJD6eX4vJWsAsU3Qy7A/w296-h312-rw/excited-puppy-dance.gif :) | 16:02 |
| yofel | uh... kubuntu-desktop isn't part of the ISO | 16:17 |
| yofel | how is that even possible | 16:17 |
| yofel | urgh | 16:17 |
| * yofel goes build log reading | 16:17 | |
| yofel | it does install fine in the live session.. | 16:18 |
| yofel | it is out https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2016-April/003720.html | 16:21 |
| telegram1 | <ovidiuflorin>: so we can publish the articles? | 16:35 |
| telegram1 | <ovidiuflorin>: yofel ^ | 16:35 |
| yofel | @ovidiuflorin yes, but could you possibly make a new discover screenshot that doesn't have broken text in it? | 16:37 |
| telegram1 | <ovidiuflorin>: ahoneybun ^ ? | 16:37 |
| telegram1 | <ovidiuflorin>: I don't have an install at hand | 16:37 |
| yofel | let me try to make one | 16:37 |
| telegram1 | <ovidiuflorin>: thank you | 16:37 |
| telegram1 | <Sick_Rimmit>: Leaving work in a few minutes, will be on hand to help in about an hour | 16:38 |
| telegram1 | <ovidiuflorin>: I'm working on a new Download page | 16:38 |
| telegram1 | <ovidiuflorin>: I hope I'll finish it by the end of the day | 16:38 |
| yofel | @ovidiuflorin http://people.ubuntu.com/~yofel/pics/Screenshot_20160421_183922.png | 16:40 |
| yofel | oh me | 16:40 |
| yofel | *meh | 16:40 |
| telegram1 | <ovidiuflorin>: what? | 16:40 |
| telegram1 | <ovidiuflorin>: can I use it or not? | 16:40 |
| yofel | spektacle removed the window border | 16:40 |
| telegram1 | <ovidiuflorin>: I don't think that's a problem | 16:41 |
| yofel | @ovidiuflorin http://people.ubuntu.com/~yofel/pics/Screenshot_20160421_184138.png | 16:42 |
| telegram1 | <ovidiuflorin>: https://kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/ | 16:44 |
| telegram1 | <ovidiuflorin>: updated | 16:44 |
| telegram1 | <ovidiuflorin>: https://kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-16-04-lts-release-anouncement/ | 16:45 |
| telegram1 | <ovidiuflorin>: published | 16:45 |
| telegram1 | <ovidiuflorin>: yofel please update the release notes wiki page | 16:45 |
| telegram1 | <ovidiuflorin>: can you? | 16:46 |
| yofel | let me try | 16:46 |
| telegram1 | <ovidiuflorin>: thank you | 16:46 |
| yofel | No I can't, copying pages doesn't work and I randomly get logged out | 16:56 |
| yofel | let me try to attach the release note information at the bottom of the website page | 16:57 |
| telegram1 | <ovidiuflorin>: no | 16:57 |
| telegram1 | <ovidiuflorin>: please leave the page as is | 16:57 |
| telegram1 | <ovidiuflorin>: can we not copy the page source? | 16:57 |
| telegram1 | <ovidiuflorin>: and make a new one? | 16:57 |
| sgclark | sigh, I was hopoing to download iso before I left, looks like that is not happening. | 16:58 |
| telegram1 | <ovidiuflorin>: why not? | 16:58 |
| clivejo | guys, that donation question in the other channel? do we point people to donated to KDE or to Ubuntu? | 16:59 |
| clivejo | [17:57:27] <viewer|28682> is there a donation option to the team? | 16:59 |
| sgclark | sure wish there was | 16:59 |
| yofel | @ovidiuflorin "Create new empty page" -> "Internal Server Error" | 17:00 |
| sgclark | either kde or ubuntu we have to beg if we actually want access to the donations, so it really does not matter. | 17:00 |
| yofel | the 15.10 release notes are part of the website | 17:00 |
| sgclark | we are equally ubuntu and kde so it would benefit either way | 17:01 |
| sgclark | as far as development | 17:01 |
| === mamarley_ is now known as mamarley | ||
| telegram1 | <ovidiuflorin>: page created | 17:03 |
| telegram1 | <ovidiuflorin>: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes/Kubuntu | 17:03 |
| telegram1 | <ovidiuflorin>: it needs updating | 17:03 |
| BluesKaj | what an anticlimax, I'm already there | 17:03 |
| telegram1 | <ovidiuflorin>: yofel, can you edit the page now? | 17:04 |
| yofel | yes | 17:05 |
| yofel | thanks | 17:05 |
| soee | yofel: what are next steps - moving back to launchpad or backporting stuff ? | 17:10 |
| yofel | uhm, dinner and gaming I guess? I'll answer your question over the weekend. (former probably, at least until Mark has finally decided what X+1 is supposed to be called) | 17:11 |
| BluesKaj | yofel, any hints out there about the next silly name for 16.10? | 17:13 |
| sick_rimmit | Hi friends | 17:14 |
| clivejo | hi rick o/ | 17:14 |
| sick_rimmit | Back from work now, so I can chat more freely and help out | 17:15 |
| yofel | BluesKaj: none that I know of yet. Random guessing and betting is officially allowed now :P | 17:15 |
| BluesKaj | yofel, wonder if there'll be a kubuntu 16.10 dev OS | 17:16 |
| * clivejo thinks this is a loaded question, so sits back and watches | 17:16 | |
| BluesKaj | hehe | 17:16 |
| yofel | dev certainly, but I have no idea how that's going to look like (or what we'll end up releasing) | 17:16 |
| soee | Yielding Yeti | 17:17 |
| yofel | we should wrap our whole desktop session into a snappy image, who wants to do that? :D | 17:17 |
| yofel | soee++ | 17:17 |
| clivejo | such a crazy idea! | 17:18 |
| clivejo | +1 | 17:18 |
| mamarley | yofel: Please don't do that, I want to keep using .debs and APT. | 17:18 |
| BluesKaj | understood it is rather "early days" , but there are rumours about Kubuntu's demise after 16.04 | 17:18 |
| sick_rimmit | I was using Mint Debian edition the other day, I like the popup screen with icons and links to all their community stuff | 17:18 |
| clivejo | we can control what software our users use | 17:18 |
| genii | soee: Yodeling Yak | 17:18 |
| clivejo | and how they use it | 17:18 |
| yofel | mamarley: we'll see. I'm not happy with our current deb workflow at all, but I've seen so little about snappy that I have no idea if that'll work out | 17:18 |
| mamarley | Wouldn't snappy completely kill the concept of PPAs though? | 17:19 |
| BluesKaj | yofel, snappy is for cotainer use is it not , being a home user I doubt I'd ever bother | 17:19 |
| yofel | BluesKaj: there are rumors that ubuntu wants to ship Firefox updates through snappy images | 17:20 |
| BluesKaj | my FF is mucked up right , serious mem leak | 17:21 |
| yofel | and desktop application containerization is something people are working on, it's just that nobody has something that's finished | 17:21 |
| BluesKaj | now | 17:21 |
| * soee just upgraded his VPS | 17:21 | |
| clivejo | yofel: will you be continuing on as RM? | 17:23 |
| yofel | Not sure, but assume "yes" for now | 17:23 |
| clivejo | :) | 17:24 |
| yofel | @ovidiuflorin release notes updated, the images are missing though | 17:24 |
| yofel | too tired to fix that right now (volunteers welcome) | 17:24 |
| telegram1 | <ovidiuflorin>: thank you | 17:25 |
| telegram1 | <ovidiuflorin>: iamges are in the announcement | 17:25 |
| sick_rimmit | Voluntering | 17:25 |
| sick_rimmit | what needs fixing | 17:25 |
| sick_rimmit | Ah images | 17:25 |
| sick_rimmit | Oh WoW that article looks excellent | 17:27 |
| sick_rimmit | Do you just want optimisation on the images ? | 17:27 |
| yofel | sick_rimmit: I mean https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes/Kubuntu | 17:28 |
| yofel | but I'm not sure if that even needs images | 17:28 |
| yofel | (that's mostly a copy of the beta2 page) | 17:28 |
| soee | https://plus.google.com/u/0/+quidsup/posts/Pu1ozuhWZYK | 17:29 |
| marco-parillo | yofel: Thanks for remaining as the release manager (at least for now) | 17:29 |
| amichair | typo - on website news: "Delivering an Long-Term Release" (an -> a) | 17:31 |
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| amichair | and the top image on release anouncement page is loading slooooooowly... like the dialup days, before 28k modems came out | 17:33 |
| yofel | I think that's the DC being overloaded ^^ | 17:34 |
| yofel | but could use a rescale, true | 17:34 |
| amichair | it's only the one image, as far as I see. 2m for a single image is a bit much | 17:34 |
| marco-parillo | Alas, I am still drinking tea. But toasting yofel sgclark clivejo sick_rimmit ahoneybun ovidiuflorin and lots of other volunteers. | 17:34 |
| * yofel out | 17:35 | |
| yofel | and thanks! | 17:35 |
| yofel | now to get some dinner | 17:35 |
| yofel | bbl | 17:35 |
| sick_rimmit | ttfn | 17:36 |
| sick_rimmit | Image is slow to download, I could fix this, but it is a Hi-Res image which means that folks can click on it, and get a zoomed in view | 17:37 |
| sick_rimmit | Which is pretty useful | 17:37 |
| sick_rimmit | I am tempted to leave it as is | 17:37 |
| amichair | sick_rimmit: you can have a small image link to the full image, and provide a much better user experience for visitors... | 17:37 |
| fone626 | sick_rimmit: if you convert them to jpgs (prefereably progressive) they will load a LOT faster since they will be in the kilobytes and not megabytes like they are now with the PNG format. | 17:38 |
| mamarley | It would also introduce a lot of crappy artifacts. | 17:39 |
| fone626 | only if you compress it too much | 17:39 |
| amichair | there are almost 4m taken up by 3 images on the page... that's huge | 17:40 |
| mamarley | Have you tried running them through pngcrush or pngout or something? | 17:40 |
| amichair | but in any case, just a tip. Do with it what you will :-) | 17:40 |
| mamarley | Or, I also like the idea of a smaller-resolution image link that when clicked would go to the higher resolution image. That way, bandwidth can be conserved and speed increased while still offering artifact-free images everywhere. | 17:41 |
| * sick_rimmit rolls up sleeves and starts GIM{ | 17:47 | |
| * sick_rimmit rolls up sleeves and starts GIMP | 17:47 | |
| === JoseeAntonioR is now known as jose | ||
| amichair | the download page says the installer is 1gb, but the torrent iso is 1.42G... are there two versions, or is the page incorrect? | 18:16 |
| yofel | latter probably | 18:18 |
| sick_rimmit | Alright images optimised | 18:18 |
| telegram1 | <athoneycutt>: Someone posted the release, good lol | 18:19 |
| amichair | sick_rimmit: while you're at it, perhaps you'd want to optimize the title background image too... (1.4M) | 18:23 |
| sick_rimmit | amichair: Well really we should get a new one with Xenial | 18:25 |
| sick_rimmit | instead of Willy | 18:26 |
| amichair | sick_rimmit: true... but make sure it's counted in 10's of K, not in M :-) | 18:27 |
| === who_da_fly is now known as superfly | ||
| sick_rimmit | Anyone from VDG about ? | 18:28 |
| sick_rimmit | amichair: I think I will try to fix that anyway's just helps a bit with load on the server | 18:29 |
| snele_ | congrats on release guys and girls! you rock!!! ♥♥♥ | 18:37 |
| sick_rimmit | snele_: :-D | 18:38 |
| sheytan | why i don't get any notification that the LTS upgrade is ready? :( | 18:52 |
| sheytan | how to force it? | 18:52 |
| clivejo | ovidiuflorin: the file size is 1.4Gb but download page on kubuntu.org states (the file size is 1GB). | 18:53 |
| * sick_rimmit scratches head and wonders how to get kdevelop to build muon, against a local libqapt he just built | 18:54 | |
| clivejo | sick_rimmit: did you install it? | 18:54 |
| sick_rimmit | I didn't as it wants root, I was hoping to to build against it locally | 18:55 |
| sick_rimmit | to my user | 18:55 |
| sick_rimmit | its for testing you see | 18:55 |
| clivejo | has to be installed on the system for muon to find it | 18:56 |
| * sick_rimmit trying to formulate right question for duckduckgo | 18:56 | |
| sick_rimmit | Oh | 18:57 |
| fone626 | Just installed 16.04. At least in virtualbox it doesn't boot to a desktop. I have to stop and start sddm to get a desktop. | 18:57 |
| sick_rimmit | I was hoping to setup a build, that I could then clean afterwards and re0use | 18:57 |
| clivejo | in the Cmake file it will be looking for qapt 3.0.2 | 18:57 |
| sick_rimmit | Oooo | 18:58 |
| * sick_rimmit Thinks hmm... | 18:58 | |
| clivejo | fail to build if it cant find it | 18:58 |
| clivejo | just install the packaged version | 18:58 |
| clivejo | apt makes it easy to install and remove stuff | 18:58 |
| sick_rimmit | What if I add libqapt buildir to my $path | 18:59 |
| soee | can we add some information how to upgrade to 16.04 from 14.04 or 15.10 (add to news post)? | 19:01 |
| soee | users are asking how to do it | 19:01 |
| sick_rimmit | soee: We certainly can, do you have any text explaining it ? | 19:02 |
| sheytan | soee: yeah, will be helpfull, cause none of update manager and Discover shows there's an update ready | 19:02 |
| soee | sick_rimmit: no i do not :) | 19:02 |
| sick_rimmit | Ah | 19:02 |
| soee | i think there are 2 ways atm.: | 19:03 |
| soee | command line: do-release-upgrade -d | 19:03 |
| ahoneybun | remove the -d as that looks for development releases I think | 19:03 |
| soee | or configure updater to upgrade to update to: Normal Release | 19:04 |
| soee | by defautl it is set to upgrade to LTS but this will work with 16.04.1 | 19:04 |
| soee | so add command to execute and do some screenes how to set it via GUI | 19:05 |
| soee | and mention in post that automatic upgrade will be proposed after 16.04.1 is released | 19:05 |
| soee | yofel: can you confirm that it is correct ^ ? | 19:07 |
| sick_rimmit | ovidiuflorin: Hi mate, to install a project from Kdevelop do I need kdesudo installed | 19:08 |
| sick_rimmit | Ha I got it | 19:10 |
| sheytan | soee: will you update the release notes with 'how to upgrade' ? | 19:10 |
| soee | sheytan: i do not how that power ;) | 19:11 |
| sick_rimmit | hmm is kdesu deprecated ? | 19:23 |
| sick_rimmit | I can't seem to install it | 19:23 |
| sheytan | soee: yofel: do-release-upgrade shows that no new release has been found | 19:23 |
| clivejo | sick_rimmit: isnt it kdesudo now? | 19:24 |
| sick_rimmit | Yes, but Kdevelop wants kdesu to install qapt | 19:26 |
| sick_rimmit | I might be able to fix that however | 19:26 |
| soee | sheytan: and what is configured in Discover? | 19:27 |
| * sick_rimmit gets los running round in circular dependencies | 19:27 | |
| soee | Normal Release or LTS ? | 19:27 |
| sheytan | soee: no matter | 19:27 |
| sick_rimmit | clivejo: Ah ha I can configure what to use from Kdevelop | 19:28 |
| sick_rimmit | Linux Questions is my friend | 19:28 |
| sheytan | why there isn't a way to upgrade like always, that it shows the notifications? | 19:30 |
| sheytan | what you guys broke? :D :D | 19:30 |
| soee | sheytan: notification sows up after 16.04.1 no ? | 19:30 |
| * sick_rimmit Hee Muon is building | 19:30 | |
| clivejo | I blame soee | 19:30 |
| * sick_rimmit Grins | 19:30 | |
| clivejo | he broke it | 19:30 |
| sheytan | well, usually notification show alwasys when upgrade to a new release is ready | 19:31 |
| sheytan | no matter if LTS or not | 19:32 |
| sheytan | but, as I said, even terminal says there's no new release | 19:32 |
| clivejo | its release day, it might not be totally ready yet | 19:32 |
| sheytan | clivejo: I don't now how it works :) | 19:32 |
| sheytan | Does it smowhow check the upgrade from ppas? | 19:33 |
| clivejo | have you fully upgraded your current system? | 19:33 |
| sheytan | yep | 19:33 |
| clivejo | no, the update comes from the archive | 19:33 |
| clivejo | you should disable PPA's for the upgrade | 19:33 |
| clivejo | the script usually comments them out | 19:33 |
| sheytan | clivejo: usually this happens automatically | 19:34 |
| * sick_rimmit Oh Yeah!! Muon built and running from git Master branch | 19:34 | |
| sheytan | yeah | 19:34 |
| clivejo | yes | 19:34 |
| sheytan | well, i'll wait. Maybe it will show later :D | 19:34 |
| soee | Riddell: ping | 19:35 |
| clivejo | sheytan: what command are you runng? | 19:36 |
| clivejo | because -d is the developer release | 19:36 |
| soee | maybe you are already on 16.04 :D | 19:37 |
| sick_rimmit | clivejo: Thank you, your pointer helped me get my Muon build env working, so now I can move to bug fixing. | 19:38 |
| clivejo | sick_rimmit: first task is to update the about screens to list you guys as the new maintainers | 19:39 |
| clivejo | we need to know who to complain to | 19:39 |
| sick_rimmit | Ah yes OK | 19:41 |
| sick_rimmit | OK, got to go | 19:41 |
| sick_rimmit | bbl | 19:41 |
| mparillo | On one physical and one VM, the GA ISO boots straight to a live session (which I prefer), on a different physical, the ISO boots to the try / install chooser. | 20:05 |
| telegram1 | <ovidiuflorin>: Would you be so kind to check out our home page? https://kubuntu.org/ | 20:42 |
| telegram1 | <athoneycutt>: Holy | 20:43 |
| mparillo | Oragami. Cool. Like the Plasma wallpaper. | 20:44 |
| telegram1 | <athoneycutt>: Sweet | 20:44 |
| telegram1 | <ovidiuflorin>: credit goes to Andrea | 20:44 |
| clivejo | very big image - 877.82 kB | 20:46 |
| telegram1 | <ovidiuflorin>: it started as 5MB | 20:47 |
| clivejo | ovidiuflorin: https://kubuntu.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/e476/rect6576_smalla.png is resized in HTML or CSS from 1600x500 to 1024x320. Serving a scaled image could save 518.3KiB (59% reduction). | 20:49 |
| clivejo | hi slhk_ | 20:50 |
| clivejo | are you upgrading? | 20:50 |
| slhk_ | hi clivejo | 20:53 |
| slhk_ | not yet | 20:53 |
| telegram1 | <Sick_Rimmit>: hi slhk | 20:53 |
| slhk_ | hi Rick | 20:54 |
| clivejo | waiting until all the bugs are ironed out? | 20:54 |
| telegram1 | <ovidiuflorin>: that scaling depends on screen size | 20:54 |
| slhk_ | maybe a couple days, I cannot risk breaking the system now | 20:54 |
| slhk_ | I did upgrade a VM a couple days ago and everything went fine. though | 20:55 |
| telegram1 | <Sick_Rimmit>: I got Muon and libqapt build environment setup in Kdevelop earlier, so I am ready to start working on Muon bugs now | 20:55 |
| slhk_ | Rick: nice! | 20:56 |
| telegram1 | <Sick_Rimmit>: Yes, I am very pleased with that.. am making some good progress | 20:57 |
| telegram1 | <Sick_Rimmit>: Did you see the Release announcement on Kubuntu ? Muon is given quite a good mention | 20:57 |
| telegram1 | <Sick_Rimmit>: Seems to have been well received by the community | 20:57 |
| clivejo | slhk_: are you going to add yourself as a maintainer in the Muon about dialogue? | 20:58 |
| telegram1 | <Sick_Rimmit>: I really like that 16.04 banner logo | 21:01 |
| telegram1 | <athoneycutt>: it is awesome | 21:01 |
| telegram1 | <Sick_Rimmit>: Did Andrea make that ? | 21:03 |
| slhk_ | didn't see the announcement, I will take a look. Thanks for pointing out | 21:06 |
| telegram1 | <Sick_Rimmit>: kubuntu.org/news | 21:06 |
| slhk_ | actually, I still have to announce the release... :s | 21:06 |
| telegram1 | <Sick_Rimmit>: Ah yes, I see its tagged, I pulled the latest Master ealier | 21:07 |
| telegram1 | <Sick_Rimmit>: Built it and tested, all looking good so far | 21:08 |
| slhk_ | clivejo: I will consider adding my name, but I don't know what other steps I need to take inside KDE to become the maintainer | 21:09 |
| clivejo | no-one to guide you? | 21:11 |
| telegram1 | <Sick_Rimmit>: My understanding is you can just do it | 21:11 |
| clivejo | will the old maintainer not help you get your bearings? | 21:11 |
| telegram1 | <Sick_Rimmit>: I had spoken to Alex Pol, about me signing on as a maintainer | 21:12 |
| telegram1 | <Sick_Rimmit>: I think it needs some one, and right now that looks like you. | 21:13 |
| telegram1 | <Sick_Rimmit>: I am am happy to be listed there, and I believe ovidiu is alos | 21:13 |
| telegram1 | <Sick_Rimmit>: Ensures that it doesn't get orphaned, because we don't want to loose it from Kubuntu | 21:14 |
| clivejo | slhk_: is Muon ported to KF5? | 21:15 |
| clivejo | or is that what the sticking point was? | 21:15 |
| telegram1 | <Sick_Rimmit>: Hey maybe slhk_ ovidiu and me could organise a Sprint to work on Muon. We could use our BBB server to work together, something to think about | 21:16 |
| slhk_ | clivejo: apol helped me until now, so yes I can ask him | 21:17 |
| clivejo | Id help out, but first Id have to learn how to actually code! | 21:17 |
| slhk_ | clivejo: dependency from kde4support has been removed | 21:17 |
| telegram1 | <sgclark2>: Lol. That on my ever growing to do too | 21:17 |
| telegram1 | <Sick_Rimmit>: Well if we ran some sprints on BBB we could explore that together | 21:18 |
| clivejo | slhk_: so its pure KF5 now? | 21:18 |
| telegram1 | <sgclark2>: Learn to code party | 21:18 |
| telegram1 | <sgclark2>: Drunken coding. Could be fun. | 21:18 |
| * clivejo smiles | 21:18 | |
| * clivejo bites his tongue | 21:19 | |
| mamarley | https://xkcd.com/323/ | 21:19 |
| slhk_ | clivejo: I would say yes, it is. And qapt too | 21:20 |
| clivejo | slhk_: you mentioned moving to a declarative UI? | 21:21 |
| slhk_ | yes, but that's not something happening soon. And apol suggested not to do it, at least not now. | 21:22 |
| clivejo | lot of work Im guessing | 21:23 |
| clivejo | what are your goalposts? | 21:23 |
| slhk_ | indeed, and time which could be spent fixing bug | 21:24 |
| slhk_ | my what? | 21:24 |
| slhk_ | goals? continue fixing (muon, qapt, but also discover) | 21:25 |
| slhk_ | feature I miss: short keyboard shortcuts (same as those from aptitude), clickable package names everywhere (e.g. in dependencies) | 21:26 |
| soee | slhk_: who is working on doscover atm ? | 21:28 |
| slhk_ | I guess that's what you where asking for | 21:28 |
| slhk_ | Aleix Pol (apol) | 21:29 |
| telegram1 | <Sick_Rimmit>: Alright, I will organise something in the Kubuntu DoJo, around sprinting on bug squishing Muon, and come back to you | 21:53 |
| soee | http://paste.ubuntu.com/15973656/ :) | 22:03 |
| tux|dude | Congrats to the dev team for all the work on getting kubuntu 16.04 all sorted out! | 22:17 |
| clivejo | BTW did anyone test Discover? | 22:23 |
| tux|dude | I'll test that when the new build has installed | 22:24 |
| clivejo | Im seeing text all over the window :/ | 22:24 |
| telegram1 | <sgclark2>: Worked for me. | 22:25 |
| clivejo | the featured apps slideshow looks corrupted or something | 22:26 |
| soee | whole Discover UI is so bad ;/ | 22:27 |
| clivejo | http://s31.postimg.org/641fcu721/Discover.png | 22:27 |
| soee | yeah all over the place http://wstaw.org/m/2016/04/22/Screenshot_20160422_002752.png | 22:28 |
| telegram1 | <sgclark2>: Wow that looks terrible. Had it looked like that for I would have not approved. But it did not :( looked nice to me. | 22:29 |
| telegram1 | <sgclark2>: I was not only tester | 22:30 |
| telegram1 | <sgclark2>: Phone dying. Bbl | 22:30 |
| telegram1 | <ovidiuflorin>: Work in progress: https://kubuntu.org/download-test/ | 22:32 |
| telegram1 | <ovidiuflorin>: I'm off to bed | 22:32 |
| telegram1 | <ovidiuflorin>: good night | 22:32 |
| clivejo | discover 5.6.2 seems to be building new packages | 22:35 |
| clivejo | plasma-discover-private | 22:35 |
| clivejo | hummm | 22:45 |
| clivejo | 5.5.5 doesnt have the text issue | 22:45 |
| clivejo | http://s31.postimg.org/5jxguo0u1/Discover555.png | 22:45 |
| * clivejo giggles | 22:47 | |
| clivejo | plasma-discover wants to update itself | 22:47 |
| clivejo | yeah, its definitely due to being 5.6.2 | 22:49 |
| clivejo | can we do anything about that? | 22:50 |
| clivejo | only backports would fix it? | 22:50 |
| quintasan | yofel: ping | 23:17 |
| === quintasan is now known as Quintasan | ||
| ahoneybun | yofel: still kicking? | 23:25 |
| Quintasan | Is it my quassel acting up or yofel's core is dead? | 23:44 |
| ahoneybun | mm? | 23:48 |
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