[00:15] <tux|dude> Neat, 16.04 coming in less than a day
[00:59] <ahoneybun> mparillo, have you had a time to look over the release post?
[00:59]  * ahoneybun wonders if you can log into the site
[01:00] <ahoneybun> valorie, your looking at it?
[01:00] <mparillo> I do not think I have access. Do you have the URL?
[01:01] <ahoneybun> it's not public so I don't think a URL would work
[01:01] <ahoneybun> g2g
[01:01] <mparillo> And as far as testing the first release candidate, I was the only one who marked anything at: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/359/builds and nobody has done any testing on the current release candidate, because yofel said they are respinning anyway.
 https://twitter.com/MarkRuan0122/status/719719088801628160
 Have these been fixed?
 The password thing I think was fixed, right?
[05:46]  * valorie downloads all the zsyncs so that I can torrent the finals as soon as they are released
[05:47] <valorie> I would usually have a day to do this but am leaving for LFNW a day early
[06:32] <palasso> hello I will spin up 7 DigitalOcean droplets (all the cities DO has servers) to seed. Are the torrents ready?
[06:37] <valorie> no, the final ISOs have not been released yet
[06:39] <valorie> pretty sure it will be around 21:00utc
[06:39] <valorie> date -u says it's ~6:30
[07:05] <palasso> ok tyvm
[08:49] <yeehi> At what time today will 16.04 be released? If you are running the Beta, how do you upgrade to the final release (in order to receive the new wallpaper, etc?)
[09:01] <soee_> yeehi: when Ubuntu release team do it
[09:02] <soee_> if you are on beta and you do simple update it should get all latets pckages and you will be on final
[09:04] <yeehi> thank you soee_ ! Also, thank you for working on Kubuntu. It is so beautiful!
[09:05] <soee_> indeed :) And it will be much better when Plasma 5.6 lands in backports :)
[09:06] <soee_> anyway high five to all developers! :)
[09:06] <yeehi> Ooh! 5.6? What is especially nice about Plasma 5.6? 
 I echo that, great job, hard work and dedication, very much appreciated
[09:07] <soee_> yeehi: it has a lot of bugfixes, better performance, new features etc.
[09:09] <soee_> yeehi: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0TzoXhAbxg
[09:11] <yeehi> so, the thing to do is update to 16.04, and then when Plasma 5.6 is available in backports, upgrade that. I wonder by which date the main kubuntu release will have Plasma 5.6
[09:13] <yeehi> Debian and Trisquel make available DVDs for download. These include all the packages for that architecture for that release. Why doesn't Kubuntu / Ubuntu do this? (anymore)
[09:14] <soee_> do what exactly ?
[09:14] <yeehi> 16.04 is out for Ubuntu: http://releases.ubuntu.com/16.04/
[09:16] <yeehi> oops, not yet
[09:16] <soee_> :)
[09:23] <yeehi> soee_ If somebody would like to maintain an offline repository for Debian amd64, they can download the debian amd64 DVDs, (about 6 of them). These contain all the packages in Debian. 
[09:23] <yeehi> There is no equivalent to this in Ubuntu
[09:23] <yeehi> or Kubuntu
[09:23] <yeehi> I think there ought to be
[10:10] <yeehi> KUBUNTU 16.04 is OUT!!! :)
[10:10] <yeehi> Three Cheers for the Developers!
[10:14] <kfunk> \o/
[10:15] <kfunk> kubuntu.org doesn't say so 
[10:16] <soee_> ovidiuflorin: ping
[10:17] <soee_> or yofel
 ** yawns ** what's all the shouting about?
[10:45] <yeehi> kfunk soee_ Kubuntu 16.04 is here: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/xenial/release/
[10:46] <yofel> images are up, yes. but it's not officially released yet
[10:47] <yeehi> Seed, yofel :)
[10:48] <yofel> oh right. go ahead ;)
[11:14] <mparillo> zsync complete. dd running slowly.
[11:37] <ahoneybun> yofel, any idea about moving images to the docs server?
[11:37] <yofel> oh sorry, I never did reply to that
[11:37] <ahoneybun> np
[11:38] <ahoneybun> let me move to my kubuntu laptop anyway
[11:38] <yofel> either add your ssh key to kubuntu, then scp as that user, or first scp the images under /home/ahoneybun and move them after that
[11:39] <ahoneybun> mm
[11:39] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:40] <ahoneybun> yofel: so what command do I use?
[11:40] <ahoneybun> scp or sftp
[11:40] <ahoneybun> I have the image on this laptop
[11:40] <yofel> multiple or single image?
[11:40] <ahoneybun> one at a time for now
[11:40] <yofel> scp is easier then
[11:41] <ahoneybun> my ssh key might need to be updated
[11:41] <ahoneybun> I never get scp right or forget
[11:41] <clivejo> !info kubuntu-settings xenial
[11:42] <clivejo> !info kubuntu-settings-desktop xenial
[11:42] <ahoneybun> mm
[11:42] <clivejo> I guess it didnt get uploaded
[11:42] <yofel> scp is like cp, just with the user part before the target
[11:42] <yofel> clivejo: nope
[11:42] <yofel> it didn't
[11:42] <yofel> will have to be an SRU
[11:43] <clivejo> was it rejected?
[11:43] <yofel> dunno, was I supposed to do something? Because last I saw it wasn't done
[11:43]  * ahoneybun got it!!!!!!!!
[11:44] <clivejo> I think sgclark was just researching that folder size bug and was to upload it yesterday
[11:45] <ahoneybun> mm so I can't move the file around on the server
[11:47] <ahoneybun> even as the kubuntu user
[11:52] <clivejo> everyone ready for the storm of user support requests ?!?
[11:55] <clivejo> Kubuntu killed my cat, how do I fix it
[11:55] <clivejo> or Kat
[13:21] <soee> uhm
[13:21] <soee> http://news.softpedia.com/news/ubuntu-16-04-lts-xenial-xerus-officially-released-available-for-download-now-503251.shtml
[13:21] <soee> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Ubuntu-16.04-LTS-Released
[13:24] <soee> good news: Mozilla has announced today they will begin packaging Firefox in the snap format for Ubuntu "later this year." 
[13:40] <yofel> soee: I always wonder what does sites would do if an image would have to be replaced after they wrote the announcement
[13:40] <yofel> mparillo: are you still testing anything? If not I would mark the images as ready
[13:40] <soee> maybe they just want to be first to announce it :_
[13:40] <yofel> I think this is as "good" as we're going to be
[13:50] <sgclark> sorry I was in fear that the moving of stuff around would break everything and did not want to break everything the day before release. I was unsuccessful with all my attempt with folderview. 
[13:53] <yofel> np, sounds reasonable. We can fix it for 16.04.1 (Which will probably happen sometime in July)
[13:53] <sgclark> ok
[13:54] <yofel> hm, marco seems away, well then
[13:54]  * yofel markes images ready
[13:55] <marco-parillo> yofel, I am trying to download the current candidate (http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/xenial/release/), but I fear even the download will not complete in time. Three to four hours left. 
[13:56] <yofel> marco-parillo: those are the 20160420.1 images
[13:56] <marco-parillo> Sorry: mparillo is my KDE Identity and is what I use for the KDE bouncer, but at work, they block IRC ports. So I use webchat and use my launchpad iD (marco-parillo) at work.
[13:57]  * yofel uses ssh tunnels at work :P
[13:57] <marco-parillo> I did grab the 20160420.1 images, but I admit I did not test. I though I saw another spin was coming.
[13:57] <marco-parillo> s/though/thought/
[13:57] <sgclark> When exactly are the images released? I will be on a train most of today
[13:58] <yofel> they're public already, just the announcement is missing
[13:58] <marco-parillo> They are already at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/xenial/release/
[13:58] <sgclark> ah
[13:58] <sgclark> cool
[13:58] <yofel> but from what I gather in -release, nobody wants to do yet another respin, even if there's issues
[13:58] <sgclark> is our PR group one that? *looks at podcast group*
[13:58] <marco-parillo> They have been for over an hour I think. 
[14:00] <marco-parillo> Also at work, my host is Win7, so I cannot zsync. Usually that is not such a problem, but on release day it is.
[14:01] <yofel> FWIW, now that softpedia etc. put the announement out, you're probably best of using torrents for the rest of the day if you want to download anything ^
[14:01] <yofel> ^^
[14:01] <yofel> except at work, true :/
[14:02] <marco-parillo> I am afraid to even try a torrent at work.
 Could someone check the Torrents on our website, I recall a while ago they were not working ( i.e Not Seeding )
 I am at work so can't do it, but all the talk about torrents reminded me
[14:41] <yofel> I'm currently seeding them, and they seem to work fine
 Brill.
 I will share them on from my client later when I get home
[14:43] <yofel> I asked xnox to link https://kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-16-04-lts-release-anouncement from the flavor page, so please don't change that URL anyomre
[14:43] <yofel> can someone maybe make a new screenshot for discover on that page? The current one looks... not very great?
 That article needs publishing too
 It's currently showing 404
 Although we're not released yet so perhaps I am ahead of the curve
[14:44] <yofel> right, please hold off on that until the official ubuntu announcement mail
[14:46] <yofel> @Sick_Rimmit: do we have an updated download page yet?
[14:47] <yofel> I don't see one myself
[14:49]  * genii quietly makes another large vat of coffee and washes out everyon'e mugs
 @ovidiuflorin What is the status with Download page ?
[14:56] <MacLeod> hi! if I correctly understand, that there is no plasma 5.6.2 under 16:04 in near plans in main repo and it will appear only in backports? and now affects only to discover/notifier/muon for bugfix?
[15:00] <yofel> MacLeod: 16.04 will only get strict bugfixes, no new plasma. I'm not sure what you mean regarding discover?
[15:00] <yofel> (no new plasma in main repository)
[15:01] <MacLeod> i mean muon-discover and plasma-discover packages
[15:01] <MacLeod> ok, i see
[15:02] <MacLeod> thanks for answer!
[15:02] <yofel> muon-discover is an alias for plasma-discover now
[15:03] <yofel> (you can remove the first if you want)
 I haven't done anything to the download page
 if someone gives me the download links, I'll update them
 it*
[15:05] <sgclark> yofel: 5.6.2 is in xenial, ping ximion for details
[15:05] <sgclark> discover I mean
[15:05] <yofel> that I know, but I still don't understand what the original question was about
[15:06] <sgclark> ah, me eithere then
[15:06] <sgclark> either
[15:06] <yofel> @ovidiuflorin: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/xenial/release/
[15:07] <yofel> as a replacement for the 15.10 section. I would leave 14.04 as a "KDE4 LTS" maybe?
 I can add a third one
 @ovidiuflorin if its release can you publish the annoucenment
[15:07] <yofel> or that
[15:07] <yofel> WAIT
[15:07] <yofel> the announcement still has to wait for the mail
[15:08] <yofel> but with the images out, you might as well publish the download page changes
 torrent links please
 ah
 they are all there
 thank you
[15:17] <yofel> I wonder if the announcement should have a known issue list that tells people how to find the "Install" button on the image, as we never got that glitch fixed :/
 That would be helpful, perhaps with a screenshot
[15:19] <yofel> at least for VM users (I suspect everyone coming from plymouth text mode), as marco did say that Ubiquity-DM works fine on hardware
 download page is ready
 shall I publish it?
 Known issues is a must
 also with a link to Ubuntu Known issues
 these are a must
[15:22] <yofel> live session looks like this: http://people.ubuntu.com/~yofel/pics/Screenshot_20160421_172011.png
[15:22] <yofel> find the problem :P
 folderview size broken?
 long press on the widget, then resize
[15:24] <yofel> yup, tell that to someone that doesn't know how to do that. Other way is to just search for "install" in kickoff/krunner
[15:24] <yofel> if you click into a corner of the visible icon the launcher actually does work, it just looks horrible
 it's too late to fix it now, right?
[15:25] <yofel> right, will be fixed in 16.04.1
 can I publish the updated download page?
[15:25] <yofel> I guess so
[15:25] <sgclark> yeah, I am trying to wrap my head around plasma configuration. The docs SUCK. Mixed kde4 and plasma5 crap and nothing works.
[15:26] <yofel> ubuntu images are still syncing to CDN, so the announcement will  have to wait
 Untill I get a definetly yes, I won't publish it
[15:26] <yofel> then lets just publish everything in one go
 ok
 Has anyone added the release notes link to the announcement?
[15:28] <yofel> the upgrade wiki pages that are linked from the download page don't exist
 ah, yes.. I did
 but the release notes wiki page does not exist
 we can clone and update the beta 2 release notes?
 can someone with wiki access do that?
 I might be able to clone it, but I don't know what to update to it
[15:30] <yofel> I think it's c&p, with less known issues
[15:32] <sgclark> do we have any artwork for this release? I think we are burning DVDs @ linuxfest northwest
[15:32] <yofel> ahoneybun: ^
 I've talked with Andrea to draw something for us
 I'll bug him in a few moments
[15:33] <soee> is there new banner for homepage /
 no
 soee do you want to make one?
 we don't have a squirrel Konqi
[15:34] <soee> isnt Alex how made this one ?
 I forgot
 I don't know
[15:43] <yofel> did someone have time to run the live session on hardware? (regarding bug 1571564)
[15:46] <soee> ovidiuflorin: ok so Andrea shoudl take care of the banner
[15:47] <marco-parillo> Sorry I am at work, I can run a live session in a VM if it helps. The ISO finally downloaded.
[15:49] <yofel> actually, the guy next to me just went home, let me hijack his PC
[16:02] <soee> hehe Kubuntu 16.04 just around the corner https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Nvn3HxItEPk/VxjPDZxEWCI/AAAAAAAADMA/SYQ1eAcKidYDMnwJD6eX4vJWsAsU3Qy7A/w296-h312-rw/excited-puppy-dance.gif :)
[16:17] <yofel> uh... kubuntu-desktop isn't part of the ISO
[16:17] <yofel> how is that even possible
[16:17] <yofel> urgh
[16:17]  * yofel goes build log reading
[16:18] <yofel> it does install fine in the live session..
[16:21] <yofel> it is out https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2016-April/003720.html
 so we can publish the articles?
 yofel ^
[16:37] <yofel> @ovidiuflorin yes, but could you possibly make a new discover screenshot that doesn't have broken text in it?
 ahoneybun ^ ?
 I don't have an install at hand
[16:37] <yofel> let me try to make one
 thank you
 Leaving work in a few minutes, will be on hand to help in about an hour
 I'm working on a new Download page
 I hope I'll finish it by the end of the day
[16:40] <yofel> @ovidiuflorin http://people.ubuntu.com/~yofel/pics/Screenshot_20160421_183922.png
[16:40] <yofel> oh me
[16:40] <yofel> *meh
 what?
 can I use it or not?
[16:40] <yofel> spektacle removed the window border
 I don't think that's a problem
[16:42] <yofel> @ovidiuflorin http://people.ubuntu.com/~yofel/pics/Screenshot_20160421_184138.png
 https://kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/
 updated
 https://kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-16-04-lts-release-anouncement/
 published
 yofel please update the release notes wiki page
 can you?
[16:46] <yofel> let me try
 thank you
[16:56] <yofel> No I can't, copying pages doesn't work and I randomly get logged out
[16:57] <yofel> let me try to attach the release note information at the bottom of the website page
 no
 please leave the page as is
 can we not copy the page source?
 and make a new one?
[16:58] <sgclark> sigh, I was hopoing to download iso before I left, looks like that is not happening.
 why not?
[16:59] <clivejo> guys, that donation question in the other channel?  do we point people to donated to KDE or to Ubuntu?
[16:59] <clivejo> [17:57:27] <viewer|28682> is there a donation option to the team?
[16:59] <sgclark> sure wish there was
[17:00] <yofel> @ovidiuflorin "Create new empty page" -> "Internal Server Error"
[17:00] <sgclark> either kde or ubuntu we have to beg if we actually want access to the donations, so it really does not matter.
[17:00] <yofel> the 15.10 release notes are part of the website
[17:01] <sgclark> we are equally ubuntu and kde so it would benefit either way
[17:01] <sgclark> as far as development
 page created
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes/Kubuntu
 it needs updating
[17:03] <BluesKaj> what an anticlimax, I'm already there 
 yofel, can you edit the page now?
[17:05] <yofel> yes
[17:05] <yofel> thanks
[17:10] <soee> yofel: what are next steps - moving back to launchpad or backporting stuff ?
[17:11] <yofel> uhm, dinner and gaming I guess? I'll answer your question over the weekend. (former probably, at least until Mark has finally decided what X+1 is supposed to be called)
[17:13] <BluesKaj> yofel, any hints out there about the next silly name for 16.10?
[17:14] <sick_rimmit> Hi friends
[17:14] <clivejo> hi rick o/
[17:15] <sick_rimmit> Back from work now, so I can chat more freely and help out
[17:15] <yofel> BluesKaj: none that I know of yet. Random guessing and betting is officially allowed now :P
[17:16] <BluesKaj> yofel, wonder if there'll be a kubuntu 16.10 dev OS
[17:16]  * clivejo thinks this is a loaded question, so sits back and watches
[17:16] <BluesKaj> hehe
[17:16] <yofel> dev certainly, but I have no idea how that's going to look like (or what we'll end up releasing)
[17:17] <soee> Yielding Yeti
[17:17] <yofel> we should wrap our whole desktop session into a snappy image, who wants to do that? :D
[17:17] <yofel> soee++
[17:18] <clivejo> such a crazy idea!
[17:18] <clivejo> +1
[17:18] <mamarley> yofel: Please don't do that, I want to keep using .debs and APT.
[17:18] <BluesKaj> understood it is rather "early days" , but there are rumours about Kubuntu's demise after 16.04 
[17:18] <sick_rimmit> I was using Mint Debian edition the other day, I like the popup screen with icons and links to all their community stuff
[17:18] <clivejo> we can control what software our users use
[17:18] <genii> soee: Yodeling Yak
[17:18] <clivejo> and how they use it
[17:18] <yofel> mamarley: we'll see. I'm not happy with our current deb workflow at all, but I've seen so little about snappy that I have no idea if that'll work out
[17:19] <mamarley> Wouldn't snappy completely kill the concept of PPAs though?
[17:19] <BluesKaj> yofel, snappy is for cotainer use is it not , being a home user I doubt I'd ever bother
[17:20] <yofel> BluesKaj: there are rumors that ubuntu wants to ship Firefox updates through snappy images
[17:21] <BluesKaj> my FF is mucked up right , serious mem leak 
[17:21] <yofel> and desktop application containerization is something people are working on, it's just that nobody has something that's finished
[17:21] <BluesKaj> now
[17:21]  * soee just upgraded his VPS
[17:23] <clivejo> yofel: will you be continuing on as RM?
[17:23] <yofel> Not sure, but assume "yes" for now
[17:24] <clivejo> :)
[17:24] <yofel> @ovidiuflorin release notes updated, the images are missing though
[17:24] <yofel> too tired to fix that right now (volunteers welcome)
 thank you
 iamges are in the announcement
[17:25] <sick_rimmit> Voluntering
[17:25] <sick_rimmit> what needs fixing
[17:25] <sick_rimmit> Ah images
[17:27] <sick_rimmit> Oh WoW that article looks excellent
[17:27] <sick_rimmit> Do you just want optimisation on the images ?
[17:28] <yofel> sick_rimmit: I mean https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes/Kubuntu
[17:28] <yofel> but I'm not sure if that even needs images
[17:28] <yofel> (that's mostly a copy of the beta2 page)
[17:29] <soee> https://plus.google.com/u/0/+quidsup/posts/Pu1ozuhWZYK
[17:29] <marco-parillo> yofel: Thanks for remaining as the release manager (at least for now)
[17:31] <amichair> typo - on website news: "Delivering an Long-Term Release" (an -> a)
[17:33] <amichair> and the top image on release anouncement page is loading slooooooowly... like the dialup days, before 28k modems came out
[17:34] <yofel> I think that's the DC being overloaded ^^
[17:34] <yofel> but could use a rescale, true
[17:34] <amichair> it's only the one image, as far as I see. 2m for a single image is a bit much
[17:34] <marco-parillo> Alas, I am still drinking tea. But toasting yofel sgclark clivejo sick_rimmit ahoneybun ovidiuflorin and lots of other volunteers.
[17:35]  * yofel out
[17:35] <yofel> and thanks!
[17:35] <yofel> now to get some dinner
[17:35] <yofel> bbl
[17:36] <sick_rimmit> ttfn
[17:37] <sick_rimmit> Image is slow to download, I could fix this, but it is a Hi-Res image which means that folks can click on it, and get a zoomed in view
[17:37] <sick_rimmit> Which is pretty useful
[17:37] <sick_rimmit> I am tempted to leave it as is
[17:37] <amichair> sick_rimmit: you can have a small image link to the full image, and provide a much better user experience for visitors...
[17:38] <fone626> sick_rimmit: if you convert them to jpgs (prefereably progressive) they will load a LOT faster since they will be in the kilobytes and not megabytes like they are now with the PNG format.
[17:39] <mamarley> It would also introduce a lot of crappy artifacts.
[17:39] <fone626> only if you compress it too much
[17:40] <amichair> there are almost 4m taken up by 3 images on the page... that's huge
[17:40] <mamarley> Have you tried running them through pngcrush or pngout or something?
[17:40] <amichair> but in any case, just a tip. Do with it what you will :-)
[17:41] <mamarley> Or, I also like the idea of a smaller-resolution image link that when clicked would go to the higher resolution image.  That way, bandwidth can be conserved and speed increased while still offering artifact-free images everywhere.
[17:47]  * sick_rimmit rolls up sleeves and starts GIM{
[17:47]  * sick_rimmit rolls up sleeves and starts GIMP
[18:16] <amichair> the download page says the installer is 1gb, but the torrent iso is 1.42G... are there two versions, or is the page incorrect?
[18:18] <yofel> latter probably
[18:18] <sick_rimmit> Alright images optimised
 Someone posted the release, good lol
[18:23] <amichair> sick_rimmit: while you're at it, perhaps you'd want to optimize the title background image too... (1.4M)
[18:25] <sick_rimmit> amichair: Well really we should get a new one with Xenial
[18:26] <sick_rimmit> instead of Willy
[18:27] <amichair> sick_rimmit: true... but make sure it's counted in 10's of K, not in M :-)
[18:28] <sick_rimmit> Anyone from  VDG about ?
[18:29] <sick_rimmit> amichair: I think I will try to fix that anyway's just helps a bit with load on the server
[18:37] <snele_> congrats on release guys and girls! you rock!!! ♥♥♥
[18:38] <sick_rimmit> snele_: :-D
[18:52] <sheytan> why i don't get any notification that the LTS upgrade is ready? :(
[18:52] <sheytan> how to force it?
[18:53] <clivejo> ovidiuflorin: the file size is 1.4Gb but download page on kubuntu.org states  (the file size is 1GB).
[18:54]  * sick_rimmit scratches head and wonders how to get kdevelop to build muon, against a local libqapt he just built
[18:54] <clivejo> sick_rimmit: did you install it?
[18:55] <sick_rimmit> I didn't as it wants root, I was hoping to to build against it locally
[18:55] <sick_rimmit> to my user
[18:55] <sick_rimmit> its for testing you see
[18:56] <clivejo> has to be installed on the system for muon to find it
[18:56]  * sick_rimmit trying to formulate right question for duckduckgo
[18:57] <sick_rimmit> Oh 
[18:57] <fone626> Just installed 16.04.   At least in virtualbox it doesn't boot to a desktop.  I have to stop and start sddm to get a desktop.
[18:57] <sick_rimmit> I was hoping to setup a build, that I could then clean afterwards and re0use
[18:57] <clivejo> in the Cmake file it will be looking for qapt 3.0.2
[18:58] <sick_rimmit> Oooo
[18:58]  * sick_rimmit Thinks hmm...
[18:58] <clivejo> fail to build if it cant find it
[18:58] <clivejo> just install the packaged version
[18:58] <clivejo> apt makes it easy to install and remove stuff
[18:59] <sick_rimmit> What if I add libqapt buildir to my $path
[19:01] <soee> can we add some information how to upgrade  to 16.04 from 14.04 or 15.10 (add to news post)?
[19:01] <soee> users are asking how to do it
[19:02] <sick_rimmit> soee:  We certainly can, do you have any text explaining it ?
[19:02] <sheytan> soee: yeah, will be helpfull, cause none of update manager and Discover shows there's an update ready
[19:02] <soee> sick_rimmit: no i do not :)
[19:02] <sick_rimmit> Ah
[19:03] <soee> i think there are 2 ways atm.: 
[19:03] <soee> command line: do-release-upgrade -d
[19:03] <ahoneybun> remove the -d as that looks for development releases I think
[19:04] <soee> or configure updater to upgrade to update to: Normal Release
[19:04] <soee> by defautl it is set to upgrade to LTS but this will work with 16.04.1
[19:05] <soee> so add command to execute and do some screenes how to set it via GUI
[19:05] <soee> and mention in post that automatic upgrade will be proposed after 16.04.1 is released
[19:07] <soee> yofel: can you confirm that it is correct ^ ?
[19:08] <sick_rimmit> ovidiuflorin: Hi mate, to install a project from Kdevelop do I need kdesudo installed
[19:10] <sick_rimmit> Ha I got it
[19:10] <sheytan> soee: will you update the release notes with 'how to upgrade' ?
[19:11] <soee> sheytan: i do not how that power ;)
[19:23] <sick_rimmit> hmm is kdesu deprecated ?
[19:23] <sick_rimmit> I can't seem to install it
[19:23] <sheytan> soee: yofel: do-release-upgrade shows that no new release has been found
[19:24] <clivejo> sick_rimmit: isnt it kdesudo now?
[19:26] <sick_rimmit> Yes, but Kdevelop wants kdesu to install qapt
[19:26] <sick_rimmit> I might be able to fix that however
[19:27] <soee> sheytan: and what is configured in Discover?
[19:27]  * sick_rimmit gets los running round in circular dependencies
[19:27] <soee> Normal Release or LTS ?
[19:27] <sheytan> soee: no matter 
[19:28] <sick_rimmit> clivejo: Ah ha I can configure what to use from Kdevelop
[19:28] <sick_rimmit> Linux Questions is my friend
[19:30] <sheytan> why there isn't a way to upgrade like always, that it shows the notifications?
[19:30] <sheytan> what you guys broke? :D :D
[19:30] <soee> sheytan: notification sows up after 16.04.1 no ?
[19:30]  * sick_rimmit Hee Muon is building
[19:30] <clivejo> I blame soee
[19:30]  * sick_rimmit Grins
[19:30] <clivejo> he broke it
[19:31] <sheytan> well, usually notification show alwasys when upgrade to a new release is ready
[19:32] <sheytan> no matter if LTS or not
[19:32] <sheytan> but, as I said, even terminal says there's no new release
[19:32] <clivejo> its release day, it might not be totally ready yet
[19:32] <sheytan> clivejo: I don't now how it works :)
[19:33] <sheytan> Does it smowhow check the upgrade from ppas?
[19:33] <clivejo> have you fully upgraded your current system?
[19:33] <sheytan> yep
[19:33] <clivejo> no, the update comes from the archive
[19:33] <clivejo> you should disable PPA's for the upgrade
[19:33] <clivejo> the script usually comments them out
[19:34] <sheytan> clivejo: usually this happens automatically
[19:34]  * sick_rimmit Oh Yeah!! Muon built and running from git Master branch
[19:34] <sheytan> yeah
[19:34] <clivejo> yes
[19:34] <sheytan> well, i'll wait. Maybe it will show later :D
[19:35] <soee> Riddell: ping
[19:36] <clivejo> sheytan: what command are you runng?
[19:36] <clivejo> because -d is the developer release
[19:37] <soee> maybe you are already on 16.04 :D
[19:38] <sick_rimmit> clivejo: Thank you, your pointer helped me get my Muon build env working, so now I can move to bug fixing.
[19:39] <clivejo> sick_rimmit: first task is to update the about screens to list you guys as the new maintainers
[19:39] <clivejo> we need to know who to complain to
[19:41] <sick_rimmit> Ah yes OK
[19:41] <sick_rimmit> OK, got to go
[19:41] <sick_rimmit> bbl
[20:05] <mparillo> On one physical and one VM, the GA ISO boots straight to a live session (which I prefer), on a different physical, the ISO boots to the try / install chooser.
 Would you be so kind to check out our home page? https://kubuntu.org/
 Holy
[20:44] <mparillo> Oragami. Cool. Like the Plasma wallpaper.
 Sweet
 credit goes to Andrea
[20:46] <clivejo> very big image - 877.82 kB
 it started as 5MB
[20:49] <clivejo> ovidiuflorin: https://kubuntu.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/e476/rect6576_smalla.png is resized in HTML or CSS from 1600x500 to 1024x320. Serving a scaled image could save 518.3KiB (59% reduction).
[20:50] <clivejo> hi slhk_ 
[20:50] <clivejo> are you upgrading?
[20:53] <slhk_> hi clivejo
[20:53] <slhk_> not yet
 hi slhk
[20:54] <slhk_> hi Rick
[20:54] <clivejo> waiting until all the bugs are ironed out?
 that scaling depends on screen size
[20:54] <slhk_> maybe a couple days, I cannot risk breaking the system now
[20:55] <slhk_> I did upgrade a VM a couple days ago and everything went fine. though
 I got Muon and libqapt build environment setup in Kdevelop earlier, so I am ready to start working on Muon bugs now
[20:56] <slhk_> Rick: nice!
 Yes, I am very pleased with that.. am making some good progress
 Did you see the Release announcement on Kubuntu ? Muon is given quite a good mention
 Seems to have been well received by the community
[20:58] <clivejo> slhk_: are you going to add yourself as a maintainer in the Muon about dialogue?
 I really like that 16.04 banner logo
 it is awesome
 Did Andrea make that ?
[21:06] <slhk_> didn't see the announcement, I will take a look. Thanks for pointing out
 kubuntu.org/news
[21:06] <slhk_> actually, I still have to announce the release... :s
 Ah yes, I see its tagged, I pulled the latest Master ealier
 Built it and tested, all looking good so far
[21:09] <slhk_> clivejo: I will consider adding my name, but I don't know what other steps I need to take inside KDE to become the maintainer
[21:11] <clivejo> no-one to guide you?
 My understanding is you can just do it
[21:11] <clivejo> will the old maintainer not help you get your bearings?
 I had spoken to Alex Pol, about me signing on as a maintainer
 I think it needs some one, and right now that looks like you.
 I am am happy to be listed there, and I believe ovidiu is alos
 Ensures that it doesn't get orphaned, because we don't want to loose it from Kubuntu
[21:15] <clivejo> slhk_: is Muon ported to KF5?
[21:15] <clivejo> or is that what the sticking point was?
 Hey maybe slhk_ ovidiu and me could organise a Sprint to work on Muon. We could use our BBB server to work together, something to think about
[21:17] <slhk_> clivejo: apol helped me until now, so yes I can ask him
[21:17] <clivejo> Id help out, but first Id have to learn how to actually code!
[21:17] <slhk_> clivejo: dependency from kde4support has been removed
 Lol. That on my ever growing to do too
 Well if we ran some sprints on BBB we could explore that together
[21:18] <clivejo> slhk_: so its pure KF5 now?
 Learn to code party
 Drunken coding. Could be fun.
[21:18]  * clivejo smiles
[21:19]  * clivejo bites his tongue
[21:19] <mamarley> https://xkcd.com/323/
[21:20] <slhk_> clivejo: I would say yes, it is. And qapt too
[21:21] <clivejo> slhk_: you mentioned moving to a declarative UI?
[21:22] <slhk_> yes, but that's not something happening soon. And apol suggested not to do it, at least not now.
[21:23] <clivejo> lot of work Im guessing
[21:23] <clivejo> what are your goalposts?
[21:24] <slhk_> indeed, and time which could be spent fixing bug
[21:24] <slhk_> my what?
[21:25] <slhk_> goals? continue fixing (muon, qapt, but also discover)
[21:26] <slhk_> feature I miss: short keyboard shortcuts (same as those from aptitude), clickable package names everywhere (e.g. in dependencies)
[21:28] <soee> slhk_: who is working on doscover atm ?
[21:28] <slhk_> I guess that's what you where asking for
[21:29] <slhk_> Aleix Pol (apol)
 Alright, I will organise something in the Kubuntu DoJo, around sprinting on bug squishing Muon, and come back to you
[22:03] <soee> http://paste.ubuntu.com/15973656/ :)
[22:17] <tux|dude> Congrats to the dev team for all the work on getting kubuntu 16.04 all sorted out!
[22:23] <clivejo> BTW did anyone test Discover?
[22:24] <tux|dude> I'll test that when the new build has installed
[22:24] <clivejo> Im seeing text all over the window :/
 Worked for me.
[22:26] <clivejo> the featured apps slideshow looks corrupted or something
[22:27] <soee> whole Discover UI is so bad ;/
[22:27] <clivejo> http://s31.postimg.org/641fcu721/Discover.png
[22:28] <soee> yeah all over the place http://wstaw.org/m/2016/04/22/Screenshot_20160422_002752.png
 Wow that looks terrible. Had it looked like that for I would have not approved. But it did not :( looked nice to me.
 I was not only tester
 Phone dying. Bbl
 Work in progress: https://kubuntu.org/download-test/
 I'm off to bed
 good night
[22:35] <clivejo> discover 5.6.2 seems to be building new packages
[22:35] <clivejo> plasma-discover-private
[22:45] <clivejo> hummm
[22:45] <clivejo> 5.5.5 doesnt have the text issue
[22:45] <clivejo> http://s31.postimg.org/5jxguo0u1/Discover555.png
[22:47]  * clivejo giggles
[22:47] <clivejo> plasma-discover wants to update itself
[22:49] <clivejo> yeah, its definitely due to being 5.6.2
[22:50] <clivejo> can we do anything about that?
[22:50] <clivejo> only backports would fix it?
[23:17] <quintasan> yofel: ping
[23:25] <ahoneybun> yofel: still kicking?
[23:44] <Quintasan> Is it my quassel acting up or yofel's core is dead?
[23:48] <ahoneybun> mm?