[00:00] hi [00:01] hello [00:05] : Hi [00:11] 16.04 is just round the corner yay [00:11] What day is it coming out? [00:11] : 21 [00:11] Oh lol [00:11] That's today in my country [00:12] I'm guessing that's murican time though I expect it will go live later today [00:12] : still the 20th here [00:12] : ETC something [00:13] Current date in UTC/ETC apparently is 13 minutes past midnight [00:13] So the 21st seems to have just started there [00:15] telegram1: oh can you? [00:15] I didn't realise that [00:16] telegram1: Oh thats useful. Thanks! [00:58] Yes, generally the release is around 2300 UTC. [01:01] So an hour before midnight on utc [01:03] So that's 11am tomorrow in my time. Damn [01:03] That seems to be their track record. If you want to watch closely, go to #ubuntu-release. But generally by the afternoon UTC, the Release Candidate is the same md5sum as the final. [01:03] I see, thanks [01:10] does upgrading to the release candidate and then turning off pre-release updates cause any issues? [01:16] I never upgrade. I backup my user data (my real data, not all of $HOME) fresh install, install the other programs I want, and restore my user data. [01:22] I both upgrade and clean install. My PC has been upgraded since at least raring, and actually the drive in it was originally in my old laptop. [01:24] my daily driver is usually a clean install but I usually run dev releases [01:24] on it [01:25] chron1cle: it should be fine to do that. [01:29] Yes, claydoh, running dev releases is kinda like rolling (every six months). [01:30] And more pleasant community than the well-known rolling distro. [01:30] mparillo: more like every 3 or less, in my own use case as I test on my daily driver laptop [01:30] and the company is very pleasant ;) [01:31] rather the community [01:33] talked me in to it [03:00] Hi there. I just installed Kubuntu 16.04 and I'm having screen tearing issues - it's most noticable when scrolling on a webpage. My GPU is an Intel HD 4600. Any ideas? [03:01] I did not have any tearing issues with Unity, GNOME Shell or Xfce with Compton. SO it seems like a Kwin compositor issue. Do I need to run Compton like I did with Xfce to fix it? === gonyere_ is now known as gonyere === jhunold is now known as jayhunold [06:01] Hi [06:02] I need to know some OS level difference between ubuntu and Kubuntu? [06:03] kubuntu has KDE as the desktop environment and ubuntu has unity/gtk. otherwise same 'foundation' so to speak. [06:04] Is there only difference of Desktop envirnoment? [06:05] well there are different default packages. use all of the KDE apps like kmail for email, konsole for terminal etc. [06:07] ok [06:07] pretty much QT apps instead of GTK apps but you can install gtk stuff if you want. [06:07] You can run everything side by side, and you can choose DE on session login if you want [06:08] Can you please tell me that why should I use this as i am already using ubnntu? [06:08] ellow [06:08] Matter of preference. KDE imho is miles better than unity. :) [06:09] ok [06:09] Matter of preference indeed. [06:09] not sure off hand but if you have ubuntu you can install all the kde packages and run it that way [06:09] Piyu: You don't need to reinstall or anything if you already have Ubuntu installed, you can just "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" [06:09] anyone who knows when the download will be up for 16.04 ? [06:09] and then you are able to choose between plasma and unity at login [06:09] though last time i tried that i had some broken configs trying to switch between unity and kde. was easier just to run kubuntu [06:09] ok [06:10] Yes there is some conflict with some IM packages [06:10] viewer|74580: last I saw 2100 utc i think? [06:10] kewl :D thnx [06:10] 2300 maybe [06:11] !release [06:11] Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 9 months (non-LTS) or 5 years (LTS). More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases [06:12] where I got the option of choosing between KDE and Unity after installaion it on my ubuntu [06:13] logout, and then you can change session in the little drop down [06:13] haven't used ubuntu in a long time so not sure where the drop down is anymore :/ [06:14] was hoping to play with amdgpu but r9 390 :C however I didn't see much about it but the radeon driver seems to have gotten about 35% faster in the newer version. Any one got info on that? [06:15] !radeon [06:15] For AMD/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto [06:15] might have some info for you, chron1cle [06:15] ty [06:16] chron1cle: amdgpu driver is in the kernel in 16.04 [06:17] yah doesn't work on gcn 1.1 though apparently so lsmod is showing radeon only unless im looking at this wrong [06:17] did find on arch wiki that you can compile kernel with a different flag to get it to work but its not stable apparently [06:21] Too many aurelie... === joshua is now known as yokljo [07:20] hey guys, today is the LTS release, right? [07:22] right [07:22] nice! [07:25] When they will release the 16.04= [07:25] ? [07:26] today [07:26] I know [07:26] But what time [07:26] between 12:00 and 23:59:59 [07:26] hahaha [07:27] okok [07:27] If you download a daily image it'll be the same, I'd guess [07:28] How do i download a daily image? [07:28] !daily [07:28] Daily builds of the images of the current development version of Kubuntu can be found at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/current/ [07:29] viewer|10098: do you already have 14.04 or 15.10 installed? [07:29] In such case you can do-release-upgrade -d, or you could just... wait. [07:34] how do i chat? [07:34] you do it [07:34] sweet [07:35] this is so much fun, i can hardly keep up with all the conversation [07:35] this is the support channel sorry [07:35] ok, understood. where do i go from here? [07:35] there are lots of other chats [07:36] for instance #kubuntu-offtopic or #ubuntu-offtopic or you can /list the server channels [07:36] luis__: not many people still awake, or not awake yet..... === vaidilos is now known as vaidiloslist === vaidiloslist is now known as vaidilos [09:10] When 16.04 coming? :o [09:11] !party | sabbir2world [09:11] sabbir2world: Please remember that #ubuntu, #kubuntu, #xubuntu, #edubuntu, and #lubuntu are support channels. To countdown to !xenial release and then party once it happens, join #ubuntu-release-party - For in-person parties, see http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/global/3339/ [09:22] when will kubuntu 16.04 be ready to download [09:22] ? [09:23] In 2020 join #ubuntu-release-party [09:40] Hi everyone! [09:41] hiho [09:42] Does anyone know if there is a defined hour for the new kubuntu release? [09:42] : I believe it will be 23:00 UTC [09:43] -_- that's almost day 22 [09:43] Thank you [09:44] hello [09:44] when will kbuntu 16.04 realesd today?? [09:44] hiho [09:44] user|5508: when Canonical decide to release it :) [09:45] !party [09:45] Please remember that #ubuntu, #kubuntu, #xubuntu, #edubuntu, and #lubuntu are support channels. To countdown to !xenial release and then party once it happens, join #ubuntu-release-party - For in-person parties, see http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/global/3339/ [09:45] okay thax xDD [09:45] is kbuntu offical supported from ubuntu? [09:45] *cononical [09:45] no, i don't think so [09:46] i hate unity but i love kde [09:46] i dont know why ubuntu dosnt use gnome anmore [09:46] welcome to the KDE group then xD [09:46] unity is crap -.- [09:46] and boring [09:46] jop [09:47] : Hi there visitors [09:47] I would rather use Ubuntu Mate instead of that boring Ubuntu unity 7 :'( [09:48] me too but mate is for older pc [09:48] and i have a new i7 pc [09:48] well i am on Kubuntu for few years now and i can't imagine switching to something different ;) [09:49] i am not sure if i will use kde or gnome [09:49] i dont know what is better [09:49] use KDE :) [09:50] hahah okay :D [09:50] do you have used gnome? [09:51] i dont like this creappyy icons of gnome [09:51] i will use kde [09:51] :D [09:52] use what you liek more and is better for you :) === kathrin__ is now known as Jemand [09:55] use kde, better customization than unity :) === root is now known as Guest53242 === mk is now known as Guest81209 [10:23] "i dont like this creappyy icons of gnome. i will use kde" ... haha [10:24] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/16.04/release/ [10:24] I think it is out guys ! [10:26] Go go go .... Download and install it ... [10:26] Then come back (if you can) and report if everything works as expected ! :D === dilfridge is now known as StZvlkx [10:45] Hello! === Adrian is now known as Guest55887 [10:46] Hello! [10:46] hiho [10:46] Hello, do you have a support question? [10:47] the canonical going ubuntu 16.04 today? [10:47] My English is bad [10:48] Guest55887: yes [10:48] Nice [10:49] Im waiting [10:49] !party | Guest55887 [10:49] Guest55887: Please remember that #ubuntu, #kubuntu, #xubuntu, #edubuntu, and #lubuntu are support channels. To countdown to !xenial release and then party once it happens, join #ubuntu-release-party - For in-person parties, see http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/global/3339/ [10:50] Thanks! [10:57] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/16.04/release/ [10:57] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases/16.04/release/ [10:57] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/16.04/release/ [10:57] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/mythbuntu/releases/16.04/release/ [10:57] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-gnome/releases/16.04/release/ [10:57] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntukylin/releases/16.04/release/ [10:57] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-mate/releases/16.04/release/ [11:00] I want to know that y my moun updater is not working === kat is now known as Guest53475 === JeZxLee_ is now known as JeZxLee [11:21] Hi, do we know if Kubuntu 16.04 is beeing released today? [11:21] Toomy: you'll see it on the web page [11:22] !xenial [11:22] Ubuntu 16.04 (Xenial Xerus) will be the 24th release of Ubuntu. It is due to be released on April 21st. Discussion in #ubuntu+1 Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party [11:22] Toomy: and the mailing lists when the anouncement it made [11:22] thanks === soul is now known as Guest9401 [11:39] Hiyas all [11:54] MiaSWs [11:54] what time do you expect i can download 16.04 today? [11:54] MiaSWs [11:54] what time do you expect i can download 16.04 today? MiaSWs [11:54] what time do you expect i can download 16.04 today? [11:54] MiaSWs [11:54] what time do you expect i can download 16.04 today? [12:02] alguien sabe de alguna solucion para el kernel 4.4 y el hdmi? [12:04] !es | viewer|53081 [12:04] viewer|53081: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro. [12:05] ok thanks === kubuntu is now known as Guest21852 [12:21] Hello Guys [12:21] do you know when will 16.04 be released? [12:21] at what time? [12:24] user|99661: officialy ? [12:24] the final images are already released: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/16.04/release/ [12:25] yeah [12:25] for automatic update [12:25] soee: they are released when Mark Stuttleworth says they are and not a moment before! [12:25] ehhehehehe [12:25] ok [12:26] so, lets wait for US time zone guys to wake up [12:26] : http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop is not updated yet [12:30] hello - when today the new KUBUNTU 16.04 LTS will be released? [12:30] !xenial | today [12:30] today: Ubuntu 16.04 (Xenial Xerus) will be the 24th release of Ubuntu. It is due to be released on April 21st. Discussion in #ubuntu+1 Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party [12:39] ok...today which time? [12:39] i mean UTC time === josh is now known as Guest23389 [12:39] as we all live in different time zones around the globe ;-) [12:41] today: when it is ready [12:43] @hateball ... please try to answer the "ubuntu" way [12:43] so an adequate manner would be [12:43] That's the official answer afaik [12:43] "we are still working on it, please give us some time" [12:43] Heh [12:44] "ubuntu" in African cutures is a bout respect and good-heartedness [12:44] "we are still working on it, please give us some time" [12:44] is muh more social competent ;-) [12:44] much [12:45] : All of us are working on our Ubuntu [12:46] : Understanding its African meaning is a great step in the right direction [12:47] do-release-upgrade -d easy fix for waiting [12:50] anyone using Kubuntu 16.04 noticed strange issues with the favourites menu? [12:51] Is it possible to upgrade from 14.04 directly to 16.04? [12:51] AceKing: Yes [12:51] It is in fact the only supported upgrade path [12:52] hateball thanks [12:52] like a chrome shortcut changing to a firefox shortcut, or is it a new browser war? ;-) [12:54] mine seems to be working ok. there's a graphical bug on the application switcher in the panel where it draws a rectangle behind the words some times for me but thats all ive seen so far. [12:57] this weird thing with the KDE menu is the only thing I noticed so far. === x_ is now known as verdenas [13:06] !isitout [13:06] No, it's not out yet! [13:06] do-release-upgrade -d entered [13:06] waiting for update [13:08] You guys let me know how it goes :D [13:18] 1 [13:27] !isitout [13:27] No, it's not out yet! [13:27] :) === eu is now known as Guest38726 === Guest38726 is now known as excognac [13:31] hi all. What is the best way to test if i have right drivers for my hardware? Yet again I made huge mistake purchasing a laptop, not quite designed for linux. I run 15.10, it's a 64-bit system with glitches of core i5 and 8 gig ram, AMD radeon etc. the system seems never to use swap, wwhy is that? [13:32] excognac: linux tends to only "use" swap when it's under tight memory pressure [13:33] popey: thanks [13:33] using the open source amd driver? [13:33] excognac: Linux is very good in using what it has. Won't need more. [13:33] You can imagine how my linux feels in 16GB on my system :) [13:36] popey: it's using X . org x server, i think it's the propeatary. i have the options for fglrx [13:38] fglrx goes away in 16.04, it is replaced by amdgpu [13:39] laptop is nice except radeon on the board, it is known that amd does not have good drivers :/ [13:39] I am using K3B to directly burn some files to disc. The disc is ~8GB dual layer DVD and I burn about 6GB. Almost exactly halfway, I get a write error. What is going on? [13:39] It says: :-[ WRITE@LBA=184410h failed with SK=5h/INVALID ADDRESS FOR WRITE]: Invalid argument [13:40] Just before I tried to do a background copy which caused both device and software buffer to hit almost zero. [13:40] : : the default favourites menu links to the system default browser what ever you have configured it to be [13:41] The device (external writer) suddenly stopped doing anything. [13:41] yeah, I cannot wait for the LTS, hate to mess around on different distros. I'm happy to live with the same OS for a few years. Shall I try to set up and debug everything now (e.g. sound), or just wait a few weeks for LTS then for the know bugs concerning upgrade process? [13:41] I can try another burner but I worry the same thhing is going to happen again. [13:42] soee: yeah, I should have bought a thinkpad not this glitchy idepad [13:43] jonathan_zz, you could try wodim in the terminal [13:43] jonathan_zz: what's the error message? [13:43] i have Dell Inspiron for 2 years and i had no slingle problem with it :) [13:43] *oh maybe sometimes with prime [13:44] jonathan_zz, run wodim --devices to get the dev name then try this: wodim -eject -tao speed=0 dev=/dev/sg1 -v -data /my/directory/image.iso [13:45] why I'm spamming here questions, is cos right after booting up and logging on, the system seems to be pretty slow, firefox has to restore everything always etc. also, upon booting all 4 processors seems to be really busy (40%+ each) [13:45] sub your device name for the /dev/sdg1 in the string, jonathan_zz [13:47] well mkisofs suddenly quit. I'm trying to found out if it quit while changing layers. [13:47] /dev/sr1: splitting layers at 1573440 blocks -- I don't know how big the blocks are. [13:49] I've had trouble with k3b since 14.04 so I gave up on iand use wodim which rarely fails IME [13:49] gav up on it that is [13:50] needs more coffee [13:52] If I assume the block size is 2k, the number matches, and it failed moments after changing layer. [13:53] BluesKaj: I'll first have to make an ISO that way [13:53] does K3B use temp space if you burn directly? [13:54] I wonder if I caused it with the buffer underruns [13:54] I just executed a cp for something large but immediately both buffers would drop to 0 [13:55] that means I can't do anything on my system while burning [13:57] jonathan_zz, I'm sure it will buffer if you do something while burning, but not until [13:59] hi - I take it kubuntu 16.04 will also be able to use snappy packages (being the same base)? [13:59] yes [14:00] cool - I ask as mozilla are offerig snappy packages for firefox - https://blog.mozilla.org/futurereleases/2016/04/21/firefox-default-browser-for-linux-users-ubuntu-new-snap-format-coming-soon/ [14:00] would not anppy be good for doing plasma-backports ? [14:01] *snappy* [14:07] I have 3 external DVD writers in my home. Suddenly I cannot find the other two :(/. [14:07] :(. [14:07] noticed some mirrors have the final .iso in now.... [14:10] I will use K3B to make an image first and then burn it to another writer, then see what happens. [14:10] 16.04? [14:10] usb stick? [14:12] been so long since i used a disc my dvd drive gets stuck and doesn't want to open [14:14] but I rather doubt it's a good thing if the buffers approach zero. [14:14] and I don't know how to put my CP at lower IO priority === viewer|30035 is now known as xnn [14:26] Hi, is there a eta for xubuntu 16.04 official download? [14:27] ^kubuntu ^^ [14:28] It is already out, but not official [14:31] no error yet this time [14:32] Hello, I hate to ask the question everyone has obviously been asking all day, but how's the progress on the 16.04 release? [14:33] : Progressing well, [14:33] : IIRC Release is 23:00 UTC [14:33] : so I heard [14:34] Thanks. I suspect they never got rid of the image over 1GB bug, or is that what is taking so long? (brute force compression.) My flash drives are all over 1GB anyway. [14:34] 16.04 's released since few hours [14:35] tar: john: file changed as we read it -- how do I deal with that? [14:35] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/16.04/release/ [14:35] if the thing had just continued everything would have been fine, now another hour wasted so to speak. [14:36] So wait, it's only the images that have the wait. So, I should be able to pull the update already if I'm an upgrading. OK. I'll go prepare to upgrade. First thing, remove FGLRX and X-Edgers. [14:36] Wish they'd publish that on the news. (Packages being up and all, building images as we speak.) [14:39] this is painful, was just creating a backup of my home dir, and now it won't work if any file changes while doing it. [14:40] I'm so happy to be moving to the new, functional mesa tree. Hopefully X-SWAT will get 11.2 releases out quickly and X-Edgers will do the same with 11.3-GIT tree Kang builds Either 11.2+GIT or 11.3-GIT [14:41] all of that means nothing to me ;-). [14:41] hi [14:46] : Hi There === Guest53475 is now known as kat_xy [14:47] hi [14:47] anyone tried te 16.04 [14:50] when is 16.04 being released, the website still shows download link for 15.10 [14:50] : UTC 23:00 [14:50] ty [14:51] today but the website says the older version for now [14:53] viewer|96720, can you torrent? [14:53] The images aren't ready for 16.04 yet. However, since the packages are up in the Ubuntu database you can upgrade a 15.04 or 15.10 system. [14:53] yes I can torrent [14:54] whats about this image http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/16.04/release/ ? [14:54] Oh, BTW if you want me to get the torrent release up on LinuxTracker.org just pop me up a message. [14:54] xnn, the images are ready, they just unannounced [14:55] so ruedii is incorrect ? [14:55] xnn, do you see .torrent there? use those [14:55] mistaken. [14:55] ok, no there a no torrents [14:56] be sure to use the torrents [14:56] so much hypernoia. [14:56] so you don't melt the server [14:56] ok, there is a torrent file ,) === vorap2 is now known as 7GHAATYJE === 7GHAATYJE is now known as vorap2 [15:03] hi guys i need your help. i was running the previous LTS, and i upgraded to the new one released today. when i boot into the OS it now forces me to stay in a black terminal like view [15:04] asks me for my username via CL, then for my pass [15:04] when i login it just sits me at this CL [15:04] : Please try login as your account [15:04] i dont know what to do and i cant lose all of my data on that OS :( [15:04] : then could you try startx [15:04] startx ok [15:04] will that start the GUI side of the OS? [15:05] : I hope so [15:05] viewer|28682, you can always boot a live iso and backup your data if you are worried [15:05] ok. i had to boot into ubuntu in order to get online to ask for help === vorap2 is now known as 7GHAATYJE === 7GHAATYJE is now known as vorap2 [15:06] i'll be back and see if that worked [15:06] viewer|28682, then you can backup your data now [15:06] : OK [15:10] hi guys i am back [15:10] and using another laptop while im booted into KDE [15:11] i ran startx [15:11] screen goes blank for a while then a bunch of stuff is on CL [15:11] current version of pximan: 0.33.6 [15:11] failed to set IOPL for I/) (operation not permitted) [15:11] viewer|28682: hi. on the one there is no GUI try to press ctrl+alt +F= [15:12] xinit: connection to X server lost [15:12] control alt F = doesnt do anything [15:13] viewer|28682: sorry i meant ctrl+alt+F7 [15:14] still nothing. keep in mind i am in a CL interface at this point [15:14] i have logged in with my user and pass [15:14] viewer|28682: backup your data! [15:14] how can i back it up if i can't get into the OS GUI [15:15] viewer|28682, i would guess your video card is important [15:15] can i roll back the upgrade in this screen to go back to previous LTS i was running? [15:15] if you want to backup, boot any live iso [15:16] do i use the same ISO of the previous LTS i was using, or the new LTS? [15:16] would me reviewing the log file help here? [15:16] viewer|28682: any. probably the old LTS is better [15:17] i guess i am confused how i would be able to access the data for this OS if i am booting into a new ISO file [15:17] boot and youll see :) [15:17] fair enough [15:17] its usually a simple click [15:17] k let me start that download then of the ISO file [15:18] don't you have the iso already? [15:18] did you not use ubuntu iso? [15:18] i have to boot into ubuntu to do everything now instead of kubuntu [15:18] use that [15:18] : I think its an upgrade [15:18] i was using kubuntu LTS 14 that was partiioned on my laptop [15:18] then i ran upgrade [15:18] it restarted [15:18] and now im sitting at a CL [15:19] viewer|28682: how did you do the upgrade? from GUI? [15:19] Looks like someone already beat me to uploading it on Linuxtracker [15:19] i went to the site and it said to run a command [15:19] one sec [15:19] use the kubuntu 16.04 iso to test if there are problems before performing an upgrade, i think you might need to solve gpu issues [15:20] i ran this kubuntu-devel-release-upgrade [15:20] it doesnt matter at this point [15:20] if you already did it [15:20] you could lspci to see what video you have [15:20]