[06:41] so is the next version coming out? [06:41] whne* [06:41] !xenial | dg87 [06:41] dg87: Ubuntu 16.04 (Xenial Xerus) will be the 24th release of Ubuntu. It is due to be released on April 21st. Discussion in #ubuntu+1 Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party [06:42] umm its 21st right now [06:45] So, later on today. [06:49] ETA? [06:49] Just "when it's ready" [06:50] :) [08:57] hello. [08:57] anyone know what time lubuntu 16.04 will be released and will it be release with lxqt? [09:03] afaik 21:00 UTC. Nope, it comes with lxde. 16.10 will come with lxqt [09:04] how long for 16.10? [09:04] Oktober 2016. ;) [09:04] october* [09:05] oh, why not move to lxqt with 16.04? [09:06] I don't know, sorry. I'm only a user, not a developer :) [09:06] 1. LTS, so needs to be supported for a longer time. 2. LXQt is very new. [09:07] the daily builds come with lxde, lxde is very old now. [09:07] lxqt > future [09:07] LXDE is mature and still activly maintained. And sure, LXQt is the "future", which is not now. :P === Kiwikaki_ is now known as Kiwikaki [10:35] the alternate install image has been released [10:36] the desktop install image has been released [10:48] release desktop is identical to 4-20.1 daily desktop [10:49] (amd64) [11:15] phil42: please do not give out links until it has been released [11:15] link for lubuntu 16.04 desktop is http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/16.04/release/lubuntu-16.04-alternate-amd64.iso [11:15] it has been released [11:15] phil42: why are you doing this [11:16] it has not been released [11:16] it has been released [11:16] cdimage.ubuntu.com disagrees [11:16] that is not a release [11:16] that is the mirrors [11:16] says it is [11:16] mirrors are still syncing - pointing people at them does not help [11:16] that why you wait for a release announcment from the release-manager [11:16] not you [11:17] so PLEASE stop giving out links to people until the release has been officially announced [11:21] link for lubuntu 16.04 desktop is http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/16.04/release/lubuntu-16.04-alternate-amd64.iso [11:22] !ops | phil42 banned from 3 channels for giving links out despite being asked multiple times not to [11:22] phil42 banned from 3 channels for giving links out despite being asked multiple times not to: Help! Channel emergency! (Only use this trigger in emergencies) - bioterror, genii, holstein, hyperair, IAmNotThatGuy, jared, Myrtti, stlsaint, Unit193, wxl. [11:23] phil42: no idea why you're doing this - the point is to help the community, not try to cause a problem [11:23] you've been asked multiple times not to do this, and you've been banned from other channels for doing it, no idea why you want to do this [11:24] rebooting to install new lubuntu [11:24] good for you [12:54] ikonia, is it out yet? [13:54] hi [13:56] what should i use for a keyring on lubuntu [13:57] ssh keyring [13:57] and how do i inlock it on ligin [13:57] unlock it [13:58] please ping if you reply [14:10] noob: Gnome Keyring is installed by default - you can use that. [14:12] krytarik: thanks. it does not have a gui? [14:12] !info seahorse [14:12] seahorse (source: seahorse): GNOME front end for GnuPG. In component main, is optional. Version 3.16.0-1ubuntu1 (wily), package size 418 kB, installed size 2424 kB [14:20] noob: Look above. :P [14:22] ok, so seahorse can see my key, and asks for pass phrase and unlocks it, but wont import it [14:22] krytarik: [14:27] noob: Just drop both the private and the public key directly into '~/.ssh' - if the latter one is missing, Gnome Keyring won't handle it. [14:28] oh? [14:28] Yeah... [14:29] i have a putty ppk, can i use that to get it imported? [14:29] krytarik: [14:29] noob: you have to convert the Putty PPK into an OpenSSH private key [14:30] kk, googleing teward [14:30] PPK is private proprietary, PuTTY only ;P [14:31] http://superuser.com/questions/232362/how-to-convert-ppk-key-to-openssh-key-under-linux suggests it will convet to openssh [14:32] noob: that's a manual step you need to run :P [14:33] Seahorse can't convert :P [14:37] teward: or krytarik what does seahorse need. i have the private and publick there but stil no import. do they need a specific name or permissions? [14:38] noob: I don't think you need to import it into the keyring, perhaps just drop it into ~/.ssh [14:38] because I think that's where the ssh-agent picks up SSH keys from [14:38] does it need a specific name or permissions set? [14:38] and does it need both pup and private? [14:39] it needs both [14:39] and the name? [14:39] private key can be named whatever, needs a `chmod 640` though on it [14:39] public key has to match the private key filename, but with .pub appended [14:39] chmod 644 on that i believe [14:41] bah, pcmanfm can set numeric perms [14:44] so how i see if this got picked up teward [14:44] wow there it is [14:45] wait a min [14:45] it set it up to connect to this pc [14:45] i need it to connect to another box [14:45] noob: um, what? [14:45] ;set it up to connect to this pc'? [14:46] E:Nonsense [14:46] noob: it's a key file - it doesn't define where it's used, or what connection it's used for [14:46] you take the OpenSSH public key, put that into ~/.ssh/authorized_keys on the "other box" [14:46] for the user on that system you want to SSH into and login as [14:46] from your system you're on NOW, `ssh user@remote-box-address` (replace the things accordingly!) [14:47] SSH key auth will be attempted [14:47] ok, so how do i connect to the remote box? [14:47] and should "work" [14:47] reading my messages would be a start then [14:47] :P [14:47] kk [14:48] denied [14:48] lol [14:50] with what error? [14:50] if any [14:50] Permission denied (publickey). teward [14:50] did you add the public key contents to the 'remote' box? [14:50] and login with the correct user? [14:50] yep. it works with putty [14:51] 9ol.8ik, [14:51] bah [15:02] krytarik: I got the key imported but i am getting permission denied [15:02] Permission denied (publickey) [15:13] Le puse Lubuntu 15.10 a un AMD Turion (tm)64 por defecto configuración de monitor 640x480 no la puedo cambiar con xrandr [15:15] !es | expa [15:15] expa: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro. [15:15] Gracias [15:43] once ubuntu 16.04 is released, how long will it take to create lubuntu 16.04? [15:44] rkzzy, they're usually "cooked" at the same time [15:45] ah, so once ubuntu 16.04 is released tomorrow, lubuntu 16.04 will be available too? [15:45] yup :) [15:45] thanks [15:45] you're welcome [15:47] anyway, rkzzy, I don't know your timezone, but your "tomorrow" is my "today". Lubuntu is being released now, wait a few hours and you'll see the post everywhere [16:33] hello i have lubuntu 15.10 it gaves me a bbswitch no vga devices found [16:33] i cannot login [16:33] Le puse Lubuntu 15.10 a un AMD Turion (tm)64 por defecto configuración de monitor 640x480 como modificarla [16:34] at bootin [16:34] how to solve that problem ? [16:35] i have an nvidia graphic card [16:35] i removed all nvidia drivers by sudo apt-get purge nvidia* [16:37] hi, is lubuntu 16.04 being released today? [16:40] !isitoutyet [16:40] It's Out!!! See - http://www.ubuntu.com/download [16:40] lubuntu released? [16:41] con escritorio LXDE y fce no se puede cambiar la configuración por defecto 640x480, no tiene nvidia [16:44] ChunkzZ1: yes [16:44] they all did at the same time for 16.04 [16:45] I don't see it? [16:46] ChunkzZ1: it may not be up on the Lubuntu site yet [16:46] but they're up and released - http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/16.04/release/ === AntiSpamMeta2 is now known as AntiSpamMeta [17:02] teward: hey my friend [17:03] my ssh is still broken [17:09] noob: what's your problem? [17:09] noob: also i wouldn't focus on one particular individual here and we're all often in and out === leszek_ is now known as leszek === pleia2_ is now known as pleia2 [18:08] wxl: ssh is not working [18:09] putty is working [18:09] I added the key to seahorse [18:09] and it shows [18:10] ssh-add -l does not show it [18:11] so apparently open ssh and gnome keyring are fighting [18:11] well so say the openssh guys [18:14] noob: so if i understand you correctly, the problem is with the key, not with ssh? [18:23] wxl: nah, the key works in putty [18:23] but it not work in a terminal ssh session [18:23] and does not show as a valid key in ssh [18:23] but does show in seahorse [18:23] that's because they use different key types, noob [18:24] nah they key went into seahorse and shows there [18:24] same finger print and stuff [18:24] irrelevant [18:24] but feel free to continue to poke at it if you like :) [18:24] ok so what is relavant [18:25] but putty converted the key to opens ssh [18:26] https://stackoverflow.com/questions/2224066/how-to-convert-ssh-keypairs-generated-using-puttygenwindows-into-key-pairs-use [18:26] once you have that done for sure [18:26] if it still doesn't work, then pastebin ssh -v and we can figure it out [18:26] also this is not a lubuntu specific thing, so #ubuntu might offer you more people that can provide help [18:44] noob: are the permissions on ~/.ssh/ [18:46] so, lubuntu still using lxde? [18:46] yes [18:47] * ChunkzZ1 is a sad panda [18:47] ChunkzZ1: there's instructions on how to use lxqt in xenial [18:47] http://puu.sh/oqMCe/1fd0eeda81.png [18:47] and lxqt works quite nicely [18:47] there's a screenshot :) [18:48] even on raspberry pi 2 :) [18:48] the only major bug I've seen so far is trying to resize the screen with vmware or virtualbox [18:48] the desktop background xwindow doesn't correctly resize [18:48] I don't see the lubuntu 16.04? [18:49] just came out [18:49] http://lubuntu.me/xenial-released/ [18:49] link me please? [18:49] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/16.04/release/ [18:49] read the release notes if you have a system built in 2016, there may be some issues (re: intel skylake stuff) [18:51] wxl: is there an lxqt channel or is this it? (other than #lxde ) [18:52] Kamilion: yeah, #lxde is the general lxqt channel. the #lxde on oftc is more lxde focused than lxqt. [18:52] darkxst got some wayland stuff punched in for ubuntu-gnome and I'd like to bang on lxqt [18:52] frankly i think they should set up #lxqt as main and have #lxde redirect but oh well [18:52] nice [18:53] btw, are the lxqt packages in core now? Do I still need the PPA? [18:53] i know the ppa's needed to get newer stuff, but AFAIK some of this landed in december to universe, right? [18:53] or is it just the themes and customization in the ppa, while the binaries are already in core? [18:54] they're in xenial [18:54] i gotta check on artwork [18:54] wait duh [18:54] of course it is [18:54] it's release day hahahahah XD [18:55] hence my questions, now that the release pocket's been published to * [18:57] thanks, guys. [18:58] aye. If you've got any questions about 16.04, feel free to ask, ChunkzZ1 [18:58] I've been running the xenial package series since november [18:58] bunch of packages got renamed, some went away, ETC [18:59] so if you're lookin' for something, speak up :D [19:02] I do have 1 question, is it a lie about lubuntu 16.04 on a raspberry pi 2? [19:02] noppe that's for real [19:05] nice! I am using my pi 2 right now with debian. [19:18] wxl: as i said i already had putty convert them (pup and private) and added to seahorse [19:19] and ssh v seem to be missing a thing? [19:19] Kamilion: permissions on ~/.ssh are 700 [19:40] phew, tried to install lubuntu 16.04 to 5 different old machines, 2 success and 3 didn't boot. Those 3 did't even boot on live-mode although installer runs fine. [19:40] cannot specify the hardware but machines were old [19:40] 1386 image in use [19:40] i386* [19:41] pressed F6 during boot menu and erased "quiet splash" and notided that "GPU cannot be detected, Light Desktop Manager cannot start" [19:52] AriMartti: sec [19:53] AriMartti: do you know how to read the output of lspci? [19:53] cannot do that [19:53] computers are 35 km away from me [19:53] ah, you've changed locations since the test? [19:53] yes [19:53] roger. [19:54] When you have a chance, lspci or lshw them -- I know a couple xorg drivers may have been dropped like ati mach64 [19:54] Kamilion: maybe tomorrow I can pastebin lspci -v for you :) [19:54] don't need the pastebin, just the GPU's common-name [19:55] hence why I asked you if you could read it's output ;) [19:56] it turns out a lot of servers happen to have 'old' GPUs [19:56] ok [19:56] thowe were old fujitsu-siemens desktops [20:02] AriMartti: got an average age for me? [20:02] post 2005? post 2010? [20:03] RAM about 1 to 2 GB, so maybe 2008 [20:03] alright, so not terrifyingly old [20:03] post-pentium4 space heaters, at least [20:03] sata disks and so on :) [20:03] sounds like intel core or core2 [20:04] llwalahoop: plymouth theme controls bootup [20:05] and I'm not sure what deals with the lightdm greeter theme offhand [20:56] i'm probably not the first to ask this but does anyone know when lubuntu 16.04 will release? [21:00] nevermind i guess lubuntu.net hasn't been updated but lubuntu.me has [21:01] craysiii: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/16.04/release/ [21:01] been available since yesterday. [21:01] lubuntu seems to have been first in the build queues and least in 'broken stuff' during release [21:02] I think ubuntu-mate had one final respin at the end, so they were a few hours later than the rest of the images [21:05] Is NVidia driver support fixed in Lubuntu 16.04 LTS for PowerPC, for Mac PowerBook G4 ? [21:09] i need help getting ssh working [21:09] I tried in ubuntu but there topic says use your distros channel === Unit193 changed the topic of #lubuntu to: Lubuntu Docs: http://tinyurl.com/LubuntuHelp | Lubuntu 16.04 LTS is out: http://tinyurl.com/GetLubuntu | Pastes: http://paste.ubuntu.com | About: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu | Offtopic: #lubuntu-offtopic | QA/Development: #lubuntu-devel [22:39] hi [22:40] anyone can sugest me how to make a lubuntu usb permanent system? [22:58] solounchico: sure [22:58] oh, nevermind, they left [23:12] I done the minimal installtion from the ubuntu network installer, it's all installed but no network manager for wifi or ethernet? [23:14] i had the same problem [23:14] liquidsnake_, how did you fix it? [23:14] so i switched to linux mint [23:14] i didn't i just switched to a different distro [23:15] yeah I wanna use 16.04 :( [23:15] do you have older hardware you're trying to install this distro on? [23:15] a 2012 asus x501u laptop [23:15] might wanna try xubuntu. its lightweight too [23:16] what are the specs of your laptop? [23:16] is it a dual core with at least 2gb of ram? [23:16] 1ghz 2gb ram 120gb ssd [23:16] is that a dual core or single core? [23:17] dual [23:18] yeah try xubuntu instead. i mean i know u want to run lubuntu but for some reason on some machines it has that problem with the network connection [23:18] i haven't found a workaround for it [23:18] so i just switched distros [23:19] so try linux mint xfce or xubuntu [23:20] only other thing i can suggest is search the net for a solution [23:22] J0hnD03ii: you still there? What are you going to do? [23:23] J0hnD03ii: you mean your installed system's ethernet doesn't work? [23:23] yes no network connection with wifi or ethernet [23:23] :/ [23:24] i wouldn't be surprised about wifi (broadcom chips are notorious) but ethernet is straaaange [23:24] hi [23:24] oh I remember! [23:24] have you looked through your logs to see if there are any errors reported? [23:24] lubuntu release is today, right! [23:24] yup [23:24] already out [23:24] ok [23:24] gonna download it [23:24] how is it [23:24] :p [23:25] like i told J0hnD03ii i haven't found a workaround for it yet [23:26] yeah it's stupid [23:26] did both of you install the same way? [23:26] with some machines it has that network problem [23:26] J0hnD03ii: also did you look at your logs? [23:26] wxl, no errors reported [23:26] J0hnD03ii: what do they say about networking? anything? they certainly should say SOMETHING. [23:27] nope, nothing. I checked! [23:27] J0hnD03ii: you also may want to check if the networking hardware is picked up. use lsusb or lspci as needed [23:28] uhm where is the iso [23:28] J0hnD03ii: networking should start on boot. perhaps that failed. do `ps aux | grep -i net` to see iuf you see any relevant processes [23:28] n-iCe: you can find it on lubuntu.me (among other places) [23:28] wxl, I just restarted the install [23:29] weird [23:29] why not in lubuntu.net [23:29] is not the official site [23:29] that's a longer story :/ [23:29] wxl, can you help about my brightness keys? [23:29] o.O [23:29] you'll notice all the links on the wiki point to lubuntu.me being our website [23:29] wow tht's new for me [23:30] it's a relatively new change [23:30] 16.04 downlaoding [23:30] oh ok [23:30] wxl, ? [23:30] the short story is that lubuntu.net is run by the guy who originally started the project and who is NOT active in its development anymore and is hard to get a hold of. we had neverending problems with it lagging behind reality. so we just decided to do our own thing. :) [23:30] J0hnD03ii: possibly maybe. :) [23:31] wxl, to change my brightness, I have to add acpi_osi=Linux to my grub, nothing else works -.- [23:31] acpi_osi=* [23:31] sorry, typo [23:31] J0hnD03ii: does that allow the brightness keys to work or what exactly does it do? [23:32] wxl, it allows me to change the brightness with my fn keys [23:32] if I don't add that to grub, my brightness won't turn down/up [23:33] J0hnD03ii: ah, so that's probably not something that's going to change. ubuntu (and debian upstream) has given defaults for grub and none are likely to include that. BUT you can make that a default grub option. [23:33] aren't there other ways to change brightness than fn keys like the power manager applet and the lubuntu shortcut [23:33] wxl, yeah but I gotta figure out how to change the brightness and turn down the fan :/ [23:33] the brightness is the easy part [23:34] the fan :/ idk [23:34] acpi_osi= < brightness works with that [23:34] but my fan is still fully loaded [23:34] im gonna cry lol [23:34] there's ways [23:34] i gotta remember what they are :) [23:35] you're a dev, right? [23:35] J0hnD03ii: https://askubuntu.com/questions/22108/how-to-control-fan-speed [23:35] i do a little bit of everything but don't contribute code for the majority of my contributions [23:36] I am not expirenced with the fan noise stuff although if you expirence high load it might need that much fanspeed for cooling if you are running something really that heavy [23:36] it would be good to check the cpu temps and see if they are requiring the cooling [23:36] if not it may be a general power management issue [23:36] yes and the panel has an applet for that [23:37] ianorlin: he needs an installed system with networking first. :) he says when he installed the first time (doing it again), he had no wifi OR ethernet. that latter bit seemed oddd to me [23:37] yes no ethernet does seem quite odd [23:38] ianorlin, nothing heavy, just the fan is always on. liquidsnake_ had the network problem too [23:38] even just sitting idle, fan is full. [23:38] probably pmgmt then [23:38] pmgmt? [23:39] power management [23:39] oh XD [23:39] it's likely turning on the fans because it's sensing something that's not actual there [23:39] the fan never goes off [23:45] well guess your problem goes unsolved J0hnD03ii [23:46] liquidsnake_: not so. just waiting for him to get an installed system up so we can figure it out. [23:46] oh ok [23:46] liquidsnake_: since your problem is "solved," is there something else we can do for you? [23:47] well i never could get the network connection to work either in lubuntu [23:47] i was wondering why is that? [23:47] and is that something then, that you want to fix? [23:47] yes [23:47] lubuntu = epic [23:47] liquidsnake_: sooooo do you have an installed system to work with? [23:47] liquidsnake_, what changes are there for 16.04? because it seems a lot quicker [23:48] wxl, ^ my bad [23:48] there's a lot of little things [23:48] i'm on linux mint right now though cuz i just switched to a different distro due to the network issue [23:48] liquidsnake_: well, if you want to switch back, maybe we could help you figure that out. [23:48] i have no way to get on if i install lubuntu again [23:48] usually when my car breaks down, i don't switch to another car in order to fix the problem XD [23:49] 00:48 and I gotta be up at 6am. :/ [23:49] J0hnD03ii: we'll still be here when it's convenient for you [23:49] wxl, great saying :D [23:49] wxl, yeah, im not tired, yet [23:49] lol [23:49] J0hnD03ii: ok, we'll keep hammering at it until you give up then :) [23:50] well ok then tc everyone have a good one. hope you get your problems resolved J0hnD03ii [23:50] J0hnD03ii: if you want some reading material, btw, http://lubuntu.me/xenial-released/ [23:55] wxl, I found this http://itsfoss.com/fix-brightness-ubuntu-1310/http://itsfoss.com/fix-brightness-ubuntu-1310/ [23:55] but it doesn't say what to do with amd -.- [23:56] J0hnD03ii: get your installed system up and we'll go from there [23:56] 25% left :)