| lotuspsychje | good morning to all | 02:53 |
|---|---|---|
| daftykins | hey hey! just turning in here :) | 02:54 |
| daftykins | lotuspsychje: it caaaaaame! https://www.dropbox.com/s/xkbx3vbk4wu3e3w/IMG_20160421_223946.jpg?dl=0 | 02:54 |
| lotuspsychje | daftykins: wow sweet | 02:55 |
| Bashing-om | run lotuspsychje run ! It's 16.04 release .. and most have not read the release notes for their issues . | 02:55 |
| daftykins | :D | 02:55 |
| lotuspsychje | hey Bashing-om :p | 02:55 |
| lotuspsychje | daftykins: its like a tuned car in black :p | 02:56 |
| Bashing-om | daftykins: If he were there .. would have a field day ! | 02:56 |
| daftykins | XD | 02:56 |
| daftykins | perhaps lucky for them i am banned | 02:56 |
| lotuspsychje | hmm seems like sudp apt full-upgrade doesnt work here | 02:56 |
| Bashing-om | Not so for us .. I sure miss you . | 02:56 |
| lotuspsychje | daftykins: banned? | 02:56 |
| daftykins | yeah it's been weeks now :) | 02:57 |
| daftykins | Bashing-om: hehe thanks sir! | 02:57 |
| Bashing-om | lot of the fun ( and confidence) has departed the channel with your departure :( | 02:59 |
| lotuspsychje | !final | 02:59 |
| ubot5` | If you install a development version of Ubuntu Xenial and keep up with package updates, then you will be upgraded to the official release of 16.04 when it comes out. To make sure, type « sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade » in a terminal. | 02:59 |
| lotuspsychje | grrr doesnt work | 02:59 |
| daftykins | upgrading didn't get you onto current? | 03:00 |
| lotuspsychje | says 0 to upgrade | 03:01 |
| lotuspsychje | and last update was before final release hmmz | 03:01 |
| lotuspsychje | perhaps daily was already almost a final? | 03:03 |
| lotuspsychje | could this be? | 03:03 |
| tsimonq2 | sudo sed -i "s/xenial/devel/g" /etc/apt/sources.list && echo "Yakkety!" | 03:04 |
| tsimonq2 | :P | 03:04 |
| tsimonq2 | lotuspsychje: did you apt update? | 03:06 |
| lotuspsychje | tsimonq2: yes | 03:06 |
| lotuspsychje | tsimonq2: still 0 to upgrade | 03:06 |
| tsimonq2 | lsb_release -a? | 03:06 |
| tsimonq2 | mine has: | 03:07 |
| tsimonq2 | Distributor ID: Ubuntu | 03:07 |
| tsimonq2 | Description: Ubuntu 16.04 LTS | 03:07 |
| tsimonq2 | Release: 16.04 | 03:07 |
| tsimonq2 | Codename: xenial | 03:07 |
| lotuspsychje | Description:Ubuntu 16.04 LTS | 03:07 |
| lotuspsychje | yep | 03:07 |
| lotuspsychje | devel gone | 03:07 |
| tsimonq2 | hmm | 03:07 |
| tsimonq2 | you do apt dist-upgrade? | 03:07 |
| lotuspsychje | 0 to upgrade :p | 03:07 |
| tsimonq2 | apt list --upgradeable ? | 03:08 |
| lotuspsychje | busy with listing..done | 03:08 |
| lotuspsychje | nothing to show | 03:08 |
| lotuspsychje | smells like im up to date? | 03:09 |
| tsimonq2 | *nod* | 03:09 |
| tsimonq2 | now replace Xenial with Devel in your sources.list like the cool kids :P XD | 03:09 |
| tsimonq2 | $ cat /etc/apt/sources.list | 03:10 |
| tsimonq2 | deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu devel main restricted universe multiverse | 03:10 |
| tsimonq2 | deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu devel main restricted universe multiverse | 03:10 |
| tsimonq2 | deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu devel partner | 03:10 |
| tsimonq2 | that's mine ^ | 03:10 |
| tsimonq2 | works fine | 03:10 |
| lotuspsychje | lets c | 03:10 |
| tsimonq2 | Get:1 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu devel InRelease [247 kB] | 03:11 |
| tsimonq2 | Hit:2 http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu devel InRelease | 03:11 |
| tsimonq2 | yup | 03:11 |
| tsimonq2 | lotuspsychje: are you actually gonna do it? :D | 03:11 |
| lotuspsychje | deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu devel-security main restricted | 03:11 |
| lotuspsychje | # deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu devel-security main restricted | 03:11 |
| lotuspsychje | deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu devel-security universe | 03:11 |
| lotuspsychje | # deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu devel-security universe | 03:11 |
| lotuspsychje | deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu devel-security multiverse | 03:11 |
| lotuspsychje | # deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu devel-security multiverse | 03:11 |
| daftykins | changing to devel is moot | 03:13 |
| lotuspsychje | this was already on devel on mine | 03:13 |
| * tsimonq2 loves devel | 03:23 | |
| * daftykins facepalms | 03:24 | |
| lotuspsychje | lol | 03:25 |
| * lotuspsychje is running bleachbit and needs to restart for updates | 03:26 | |
| lotuspsychje | hah | 03:26 |
| lotuspsychje | now where getting somewhere | 03:26 |
| lotuspsychje | brb reboot | 03:37 |
| lotuspsychje | well seems like im up to date | 03:48 |
| tsimonq2 | o/ night | 03:49 |
| sam_yan | Has ubuntu support the offline update by systemd? | 03:51 |
| Bashing-om | sam_yan: Ask in the #ubuntu channel . | 03:56 |
| lotuspsychje | laterzz | 05:10 |
| Elec_A | I have an odd question, but why it takes several monthes to introduce a new version of ubuntu and only major upgrade is supporting several new hardware and unity's ability to go to bottom? I am upgrading from ubuntu 14.04 to 16.04 and I literally see no difference and improvement in my work. by the way, I am just a programmer. | 06:38 |
| Elec_A | Someone told me whole software collection has been changed. but what was wrong before ? | 06:39 |
| Ben64 | what would you expect to change? | 06:40 |
| Elec_A | Ben64: Yes, good question, if you mean they have fixed bugs, is it really necessary to introduce a new major version ? | 06:40 |
| Ben64 | the releases are on a set schedule, it doesn't require a big change to get a new version | 06:41 |
| dax | and while the software you use may not have changed much, there is plenty of software that did | 06:42 |
| Elec_A | Ben64: I am not a windows guy, but when I compare new version windows, I see there are a lot of difference between windows 10 and windows 8.1. and now because they are going to fix just bugs and no major changes, they won't release a new major version during the next decade. I hope you understand what I mean. | 06:45 |
| Elec_A | dax: So is it necessary to upgrade to the new ubuntu? can't we get just new version of those softwares ? | 06:46 |
| dax | no, because Ubuntu doesn't upgrade packages (with some exceptions) to new major releases after an Ubuntu version is released | 06:46 |
| dax | under the theory that adding more bugs is bad, and creating a moving target does that | 06:47 |
| dax | and everything in a given Ubuntu version is tested together | 06:47 |
| dax | !latest | 06:47 |
| ubot5` | Packages in Ubuntu may not be the latest. Ubuntu aims for stability, so "latest" may not be a good idea. Post-release updates are only considered if they are fixes for security vulnerabilities, high impact bug fixes, or unintrusive bug fixes with substantial benefit. See also !backports, !sru, and !ppa. | 06:47 |
| dax | also, while i'm throwing reasons out there, it is not feasible to perpetually backport security upgrades for old versions of software. ubuntu releases go EOL so that only a certain number of releases are being maintained at once | 06:48 |
| yacc_ | I have to admit, if I hadn't tried to connect an A2DP headphone to my wife's Windows laptop last week, I'd be much more irritated with 16.04 ;) | 06:48 |
| Elec_A | dax: I think I am understanding finally. | 06:49 |
| dax | so basically, the thought process goes: 1) do you have release "checkpoints" like Ubuntu or just upgrade packages as they come out like Arch/Gentoo. Ubuntu picks the former; the latter is a moving target of new bugs and a pain for some use cases. 2) If you're going to do release checkpoints, how often and how many are you going to support at once? Ubuntu does every 6 months, and EOLs to only support a | 06:49 |
| dax | finite number. | 06:49 |
| dax | If it turns out you don't like checkpoints and want to upgrade packages as they come out, use a rolling release distro like Arch or Gentoo, I guess :) | 06:50 |
| Elec_A | dax: So maybe at the moment someone is using ubuntu 8.04 and happy with that ? | 06:51 |
| dax | !8.04 | 06:52 |
| ubot5` | Ubuntu 8.04 LTS (Hardy Heron) was the eighth release of Ubuntu. Desktop support ended on May 12 2011, Server support ended on May 9th 2013. See http://ubottu.com/y/hardy for more details. | 06:52 |
| dax | It hasn't been supported (has been EOL) for 3 years, so it hasn't gotten security updates in that time. Regardless of if they're happy with it, they should not be using it. | 06:52 |
| dax | assuming it's running on something that gets external threats, i.e. anything with an internet connection or multiple untrusted users | 06:52 |
| dax | i.e. 99% of devices | 06:53 |
| dax | and again, it's not supported because it's not feasible to support *everything* going back forever | 06:53 |
| Elec_A | dax: oh, I have just finished installing ubuntu 16.04. but I had not any problem with 14.04. I really don't know why I did that though. hmm. Maybe I like to use the latest version always. | 06:55 |
| Elec_A | dax: thanks for your explanation. | 06:55 |
| Elec_A | dax: I learnt a lot . | 06:55 |
| Elec_A | dax: just another question, since as Ben64 said releases are on a schedule, they need to release a new version on time. So there is a possiblity that they realease a new version without any changes right? ( I know they won't do that though :) ) and usually a new version includes security improvements rather than UI or software changes? am I right ? | 07:00 |
| Ben64 | newer versions of software | 07:01 |
| Ben64 | security patches go to every supported version | 07:01 |
| dax | Elec_A: if the entire Free Software community went on strike for six months, I guess there would indeed be no changes | 07:02 |
| dax | Elec_A: new versions include all sorts of changes, which you may or may not encounter depending on what software you use | 07:02 |
| dax | after release, as ubot5` said earlier, you will get security updates and may get minor feature updates without changing ubuntu version | 07:02 |
| Elec_A | dax: Ok. Got it. It is clear now for me. I was confused at first. | 07:03 |
| dax | which is broadly similar to Windows before Win10 was (ignoring service packs) | 07:03 |
| Elec_A | Thank you. | 07:03 |
| dax | to what* | 07:03 |
| zebs | Hi looking for some help when trying to build a server from a mirror that has been signed by a key not in the default keyring? | 10:40 |
| lotuspsychje | !server | 10:41 |
| ubot5` | Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is !Trusty (Trusty Tahr 14.04) - More info: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition - Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide - Support in #ubuntu-server | 10:41 |
| lotuspsychje | dax: current lts version 16.04? ^ | 10:42 |
| TJ- | zebs: use apt-key adv --keyserver <keyserver-url> --recv <key-id>" to add the key | 10:43 |
| zebs | I have manged to overwrite the initial keyring file with a preseed early_command but when it gets to the in-target part of the install it is using a new keyring file and wondered if anyone had manged to get round this? | 10:44 |
| zebs | i have used the apt-key command in the late_command section so the key is available once the system boots. | 10:45 |
| TJ- | zebs: are you using debootstrap? | 10:45 |
| zebs | the install is yes | 10:46 |
| TJ- | right, and you're using --second-stage ? | 10:46 |
| zebs | not sure where would that be specified | 10:47 |
| zebs | not sure where would that be specified? | 10:47 |
| TJ- | well, with debootstrap if you're building for a different arch (say i386 on an amd64 host, or maybe armhf) debootstrap has to run in 2 stages. In that case there is an issue when second-stage is started where the keyring may need preinstalling | 10:49 |
| zebs | i can see in the that debpootstrap installs the ubuntu-keyring package and then sets it up and then base-installer connects to the repos which are signed with the new key. Aafter that it fails to authenticate the packages. I suppose I need to over write or import the missing key. | 10:52 |
| zebs | but I cant workout how I would go about that at this stage of the install | 10:54 |
| TJ- | in my 2-stage build scripts I pre-install using the command: | 10:54 |
| TJ- | ${R_SUDO} dpkg-deb --extract ${R_TARGET}/var/cache/apt/archives/ubuntu-keyring*.deb ${R_TARGET} | 10:54 |
| TJ- | that runs after the first stage (package download) and before second-stage (entry into the chroot) | 10:54 |
| zebs | ok how do you implement the 2 stage build? | 10:55 |
| TJ- | I think your issue is slightly different in that you've a repo whose package lists are signed by a different key entirely, so you'd at that point need to unpack the ubuntu-keyring *and* "chroot /target apt-key adv --keyring ... --recv <key-id>" too | 10:56 |
| TJ- | zebs: see "man deboostrap" - to stop after 1st stage use "debootstrap --foreign ...", do your keyring install + custom key import, then "debootstrap --second-stage ..." | 10:57 |
| zebs | ok would I implement that in the pxe append line? | 11:00 |
| zebs | or in the preseed file? | 11:01 |
| TJ- | zebs: not sure how you'd do it via preseed, not sure if there's a hook to interfere with the deboostrap stage. I thought you were using debootstrap under manual control | 11:02 |
| zebs | my fault sorry. | 11:02 |
| zebs | no it is from a pxe boot using a pressed file. | 11:03 |
| TJ- | I'm sure preseed supports a custom key option | 11:03 |
| TJ- | zebs: i'd guess you'd simply do this: create a .deb package in your custom mirror with your keyring, and then use the preseed to specify that package to be added to the installation early on | 11:06 |
| zebs | ok I thanks that might be the only option. | 11:08 |
| lotuspsychje | hey BluesKaj | 11:30 |
| BluesKaj | Howdy all | 11:30 |
| BluesKaj | Hi lotuspsychje | 11:30 |
| lotuspsychje | BluesKaj: your on final? | 11:30 |
| BluesKaj | yes, but haven't received any upgrades since wed | 11:31 |
| lotuspsychje | BluesKaj: me neither... | 11:31 |
| lotuspsychje | tried everything in the book | 11:31 |
| lotuspsychje | 0 to upgrade lol | 11:31 |
| lotuspsychje | BluesKaj: so that means we had final, before final went out? | 11:31 |
| BluesKaj | yeah, disappointing | 11:32 |
| lotuspsychje | lol | 11:32 |
| lotuspsychje | BluesKaj: lsb_release -a? | 11:32 |
| BluesKaj | no need | 11:33 |
| lotuspsychje | Description:Ubuntu 16.04 LTS | 11:33 |
| lotuspsychje | devel got away :p | 11:33 |
| lotuspsychje | brb | 11:37 |
| west | /msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER west gqbahqkxwnuz | 11:51 |
| DJones | Probably worth not using that password in future now its been posted in the channel | 11:52 |
| west | Well, that didn't work like intended. | 11:53 |
| DJones | Yeah, blank space in front of the / | 11:53 |
| west | Thanks. | 11:53 |
| lotuspsychje | re | 11:57 |
| lotuspsychje | BluesKaj: i wonder what the !final was about apt full-upgrade | 11:59 |
| * tsimonq2 is happy! | 12:01 | |
| tsimonq2 | $ lsb_release -a | 12:01 |
| tsimonq2 | No LSB modules are available. | 12:01 |
| tsimonq2 | Distributor ID: Ubuntu | 12:01 |
| tsimonq2 | Description: Ubuntu Yakkety Yak (development branch) | 12:01 |
| tsimonq2 | Release: 16.10 | 12:01 |
| tsimonq2 | Codename: yakkety | 12:01 |
| tsimonq2 | yay! | 12:01 |
| tsimonq2 | XD | 12:01 |
| lotuspsychje | lol | 12:01 |
| tsimonq2 | devel alias FTW | 12:01 |
| tsimonq2 | \o/ already updated two packages! XD | 12:05 |
| lotuspsychje | im staying away from non-lts | 12:06 |
| lotuspsychje | gonna enjoy xenial some years now | 12:06 |
| tsimonq2 | good for you :) | 12:06 |
| tsimonq2 | I love always being on the development release | 12:07 |
| lotuspsychje | i also like bugging out, for lts :p | 12:07 |
| tsimonq2 | :P | 12:07 |
| tsimonq2 | The following packages will be upgraded: base-files distro-info-data | 12:07 |
| tsimonq2 | 2 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. | 12:07 |
| tsimonq2 | FWIW | 12:07 |
| tsimonq2 | we should really have a mirror like Debian's HTTP redir mirror | 12:08 |
| DJones | Can somebody on 16.04 check something for me, if you open Ubutu Software and go tothe updates tab, does it show a single package to be updated, mine does, but won't install it libjpeg-turbo-progs 1.4.2-ubuntu3 | 12:08 |
| lotuspsychje | lets c | 12:09 |
| DJones | Trying from terminal, I get the message that the package has been held back | 12:10 |
| lotuspsychje | hmm cant find that package from terminal here | 12:11 |
| DJones | I'm on standard Ubuntu with unity, upgraded from 15.10 yesterday | 12:11 |
| lotuspsychje | !info libjpeg-turbo-prog xenial | 12:11 |
| ubot5` | Package libjpeg-turbo-prog does not exist in xenial | 12:11 |
| BluesKaj | DJones, if you're adventurous run full-upgrade | 12:11 |
| lotuspsychje | !info libjpeg-turbo-prog wily | 12:11 |
| ubot5` | Package libjpeg-turbo-prog does not exist in wily | 12:11 |
| lotuspsychje | DJones: exact packagename? | 12:11 |
| DJones | !info libjpeg-turbo-progs | 12:12 |
| ubot5` | libjpeg-turbo-progs (source: libjpeg-turbo): Programs for manipulating JPEG files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3.0-0ubuntu2 (wily), package size 52 kB, installed size 178 kB | 12:12 |
| lotuspsychje | DJones: install works here | 12:13 |
| lotuspsychje | universe repo | 12:13 |
| DJones | Strange, wonder why thats happening | 12:13 |
| lotuspsychje | amd64 1.4.2-0ubuntu3 | 12:14 |
| lotuspsychje | DJones: did you upgrade from wily with ppa's enabled? | 12:14 |
| lotuspsychje | perhaps something shared? | 12:14 |
| DJones | Maybe, pretty sure they were automatically disabled on upgrade, ppa for corebird was disabled on upgrade and google chrome ppa is still enabled | 12:16 |
| lotuspsychje | DJones: check if your on current xenial kernel aswell? .21 ? | 12:16 |
| DJones | Linux Mobius 4.4.0-21-generic #37-Ubuntu SMP Mon Apr 18 18:33:37 UTC 2016 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux | 12:18 |
| lotuspsychje | yep | 12:18 |
| DJones | Ah well, no worries with it, was just curious | 12:18 |
| lotuspsychje | DJones: perhaps force purge on libjpeg and reinstall? | 12:18 |
| lotuspsychje | bbl | 12:20 |
| DJones | I suspect its been replaced with something else that conflicts | 12:21 |
| dax | !server | 15:22 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is !Trusty (Trusty Tahr 14.04) - More info: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition - Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide - Support in #ubuntu-server | 15:22 |
| dax | hrm | 15:22 |
| dax | !+server | 15:22 |
| ubot5 | <reply> Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is !$curLTS ($curLTSLong $curLTSNum) - More info: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition - Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide - Support in #ubuntu-server | 15:22 |
| dax | oh, its variables didn't get updated. fun. | 15:22 |
| dax | forwarded to Pici | 15:23 |
| dax | !server | 15:26 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is !Xenial (Xenial Xerus 16.04) - More info: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition - Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide - Support in #ubuntu-server | 15:26 |
| dax | yay | 15:26 |
| lotuspsychje | dax: tnx :p | 15:27 |
| lotuspsychje | OerHeks: !!!!!! | 15:28 |
| lotuspsychje | wb mate we all missed you | 15:29 |
| lotuspsychje | wb BluesKaj | 15:31 |
| BluesKaj | thanks lotuspsychje was trying to zsync th kubuntu16.04 iso file but it kept failing and the the torrent was stalled, so I used wget to DL, which actually works :-) , gonna burn the image for a backup | 15:34 |
| lotuspsychje | kk :p | 15:34 |
| lotuspsychje | BluesKaj: using usb disk creator? | 15:35 |
| lotuspsychje | or dd? | 15:35 |
| BluesKaj | the this old pc has a dvdrom | 15:36 |
| lotuspsychje | ah kk | 15:36 |
| BluesKaj | the kubuntu sources are very busy judging by the DL speed | 15:37 |
| lotuspsychje | i bet xenial gets leeched hard | 15:38 |
| lotuspsychje | hey EriC^^ | 15:43 |
| EriC^^ | hey lotuspsychje | 15:43 |
| lotuspsychje | 50 discussers :p | 15:45 |
| BluesKaj | wow, the 16.04 DL failed even wirth wget | 15:46 |
| lotuspsychje | wowz | 15:46 |
| BluesKaj | guess I'll wait for a few days | 15:46 |
| daftykins | i'd torrent it during the peak days | 15:50 |
| lotuspsychje | !torrents | 15:50 |
| ubot5 | Xenial can be torrented from http://torrent.ubuntu.com/simple/xenial/desktop/ubuntu-16.04-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent or http://torrent.ubuntu.com/simple/xenial/server/ubuntu-16.04-server-amd64.iso.torrent depending on your needs. Other flavors can be found at http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969 | 15:50 |
| BluesKaj | torrent totally stalled out | 15:50 |
| lotuspsychje | ouch | 15:50 |
| BluesKaj | wget restarted | 15:51 |
| lotuspsychje | BluesKaj: want me to dcc send you something? | 15:51 |
| lotuspsychje | i download at 50mbit here | 15:51 |
| BluesKaj | think it's ok now the speed is much better | 15:51 |
| lotuspsychje | kk | 15:52 |
| BluesKaj | I only havs adsl , the cable co has much faster speeds, but they're too expensive | 15:53 |
| BluesKaj | if I decide to cut the cord on my sattv service then I might switch to cable 50Mb. That will keep my entertainment and communications cost about the same as I pay totally now | 15:57 |
| lotuspsychje | but sat is also pretty nice :p | 15:58 |
| lotuspsychje | hey davidcalle | 15:58 |
| lotuspsychje | davido_: | 15:58 |
| davido_ | howdy. | 15:58 |
| BluesKaj | but it's pita to switch ...new modem etc etc | 15:58 |
| BluesKaj | hi davido_ | 15:58 |
| davido_ | So it appears that network manager doesn't recognize the openconnect plugin under Ubuntu 16.04. | 15:58 |
| lotuspsychje | BluesKaj: yeah always new modems/routers cost when switch | 15:58 |
| lotuspsychje | davido_: whats the result of that? | 15:59 |
| davido_ | Not looking for support (because a bug is a bug... nothing to support... plus I can connect to the vpn using the shell), just a word of caution. | 15:59 |
| lotuspsychje | i placed a network-manager bug for xenial also | 15:59 |
| davido_ | Well on a system that previously had the vpn connection set up through NM, you can attempt login, but it will fail. If you attempt to edit the connection, that will fail with a complaint that some file is missing. | 15:59 |
| daftykins | when you say openconnect, is that openvpn or something else? | 16:00 |
| davido_ | And if you attempt to add an openconnect vpn connection through network manager, openconnect will not appear in the dropdown of available vpn protocols. | 16:00 |
| davido_ | something else. | 16:00 |
| davido_ | It's an open source version of AnyConnect. | 16:00 |
| daftykins | not heard of that one :D | 16:01 |
| * lotuspsychje neither | 16:01 | |
| davido_ | yeah, it's probably not terribly popular, but it's the setup my organization decided to use. | 16:01 |
| lotuspsychje | davido_: file a new bug? | 16:02 |
| davido_ | i did. | 16:02 |
| lotuspsychje | kk | 16:02 |
| davido_ | :) | 16:02 |
| davido_ | anyway, not a big deal because I can still connect using some shell-foo, bypassing network manager. | 16:02 |
| lotuspsychje | nice | 16:03 |
| daftykins | just a thought but if you upgraded instead of clean install, i'd try it under a clean user for fun | 16:03 |
| lotuspsychje | good idea | 16:03 |
| davido_ | daftykins: On my one remaining 15.10 box, I installed 16.04 in virtualbox, and installed openconnect there. same issue. So that's a clean install. | 16:04 |
| daftykins | ah ok | 16:04 |
| davido_ | i'm not about to do a clean install on my $work-station. :) | 16:05 |
| davido_ | Another issue is that DisplayLink doesn't seem to support anything past 15.10, so my USB3.0 monitor can't be used at the moment until they catch up. | 16:06 |
| davido_ | that's also minor. i rarely use my usb3.0 monitor. | 16:06 |
| davido_ | anyway, back to work. :) | 16:08 |
| lotuspsychje | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/1571454 | 16:08 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1571454 in network-manager (Ubuntu) "Wifi + cable only works after network-manager restart" [High,Confirmed] | 16:08 |
| lotuspsychje | didnt happen few days... | 16:10 |
| BluesKaj | I have a tp-link wdr3600 router and tp-link low coat modem , so replcoing the modem is no big loss | 16:10 |
| BluesKaj | davido_, yeah, openvpn here wouldn't connect until I restarted the network-manager | 16:12 |
| davido_ | It's all worthwhile just so I can move the launcher to the bottom. So sick of it sitting between my monitors. | 16:13 |
| davido_ | hated having to slide my mouse through it to get to the next monitor to the left. | 16:13 |
| BluesKaj | I have just one monitor, but it's our TV. I'm a retired home user | 16:16 |
| davido_ | My work is on a laptop with two 27" monitors attached. | 16:22 |
| lotuspsychje | just as i expected, alot of wily to xenial nightmare upgrades again... | 16:42 |
| daftykins | :D | 16:45 |
| daftykins | someone was whinging over in #kodi last night about their upgrade going awry, i still don't believe in upgrades on any OS | 16:45 |
| daftykins | why cross your fingers and hope when you can backup and put the effort into a nice clean install where you inherit no backward steps | 16:46 |
| dax | i've done it with debian because upgrades for it have always been rock solid for me. Windows, Ubuntu, etc. though? clean install all the way | 16:49 |
| lotuspsychje | indeed | 16:50 |
| lotuspsychje | and users are so good to mess up their systems first, ppa's, manual installs..then want the upgrade to go flawless | 16:50 |
| BluesKaj | I just upgarded from a dailyXenial clean install , but I have a new backup image on a dvd just in case | 16:52 |
| lotuspsychje | !yay | 16:53 |
| ubot5 | Glad you made it! :-) | 16:53 |
| lotuspsychje | bbl | 16:58 |
| tsimonq2 | O__O ALREADY? | 17:12 |
| tsimonq2 | (Yakkety Yak dailies) | 17:12 |
| BluesKaj | I have a solid, if not real dsl connection at my end, kubuntu's end is probly being hammered big time today | 17:12 |
| BluesKaj | tsimonq2, is that official for 16.10? | 17:13 |
| tsimonq2 | BluesKaj: yup :) | 17:13 |
| BluesKaj | if not real fast | 17:13 |
| davido_ | Looks like DisplayLink does intend to support 16.04LTS: http://displaylink.org/forum/showthread.php?s=ecdc41b4a30d5602c067248a5d362946&t=64479 | 19:03 |
| davido_ | Now I'm about to install 14.04 as a guest under virtual box on 16.04. | 19:32 |
| Bashing-om | !info libdvdcss wily | 23:43 |
| ubot5 | Package libdvdcss does not exist in wily | 23:43 |
| Bashing-om | !info libdvdcss trusty | 23:44 |
| ubot5 | Package libdvdcss does not exist in trusty | 23:45 |
| pauljw | you can install libdvd-pkg and it will download and install libdvdcss | 23:45 |
| Bashing-om | pauljw: Kust messing about .. it is in the package libdvdread4 . | 23:46 |
| pauljw | oh, good deal | 23:47 |
| pauljw | according to the discript in synaptic, it's not in there and needs to be downloaded | 23:49 |
| pauljw | i found this and followed the instructions and it worked, i think, i'm about to test a dvd now | 23:50 |
| pauljw | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs | 23:50 |
| Bashing-om | pauljw: 14.04 ? | 23:52 |
| pauljw | no, 15.10 and newer, apt-get found the file and performed the operation | 23:53 |
| pauljw | run this: sudo apt-get install libdvd-pkg | 23:54 |
| pauljw | then follow the instructions to download, build and install libdvdcss | 23:55 |
| pauljw | brb. need to set my dvd player to pass thru to my vm... | 23:55 |
| Bashing-om | pauljw: :) nice to have good docs, huh ? | 23:56 |
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