[00:05] <Ziioynx> quit
[00:31] <wyre> hi guys! when has been released ubuntu Gnome 16.04?
[00:39] <joeberardis> hello?
[00:40] <joeberardis> anyone else having issues using proprietary nvidia driver with 16.04?
[08:17] <shayan3985> hi guys  i wonder when will ubuntu16-04 with gnome desktop release? anyone know ?
[08:17] <shayan3985> no one ? :)
[08:17] <shayan3985> hmmm :-?
[08:55] <mgedmin> I think it's out already
[08:55] <mgedmin> it's just that everyone who can change the topic is now sleeping because Australia time or something
[10:55] <felixis> hello
[10:56] <felixis> I am trying to boot into recovery mode on 16.04
[10:56] <felixis> however pressing the shift key does not bring up the grub screen
[10:56] <felixis> what could be the reason
[11:57] <mgedmin> lol I messed up the upgrade
[11:57] <mgedmin> hit ctrl+shift+i to get the gtk+ inspector
[11:57] <mgedmin> instead, the upgrade window froze
[13:35] <Forage> Good afternoon
[13:35] <LinDol> hi :)
[13:36] <Forage> First of all: many thanks for yet another shiny Ubuntu GNOME release!
[13:36] <LinDol> korea is going to midnight :)
[13:36] <Forage> (second: the channel topic is outdated :-P )
[13:38] <Forage> Just a quick question: is updating (from 15.10) by using the livecd considered just as safe/stable as using the normal software updater on a running system?
[13:38] <wyre> hi guys! when will be released ubuntu-gnome 16.04?
[13:39] <Forage> wyre: it already is
[13:39] <Forage> the website hasn't been updated due to issues
[13:40] <Forage> wyre: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-gnome/2016-April/003913.html
[13:40] <wyre> mmm ok :D
[13:40] <Forage> enjoy!
[13:41] <wyre> Forage, ty :P
[13:41] <LinDol> Forage, I think you would better just fresh install haha :)
[13:41] <Forage> LinDol: nonsense
[13:42] <LinDol> haha :)
[13:42] <LinDol> I advise you upgrading without livecd :)
[13:43] <Forage> I can't take you serious any more with your previous advice :-P
[13:43] <LinDol> oops :) sorry :>
[13:44] <Forage> It would save me a lot of time using the iso, if things work as expected of course
[13:44] <Forage> This because of my current internet connection
[13:44] <Forage> And I already have the iso
[13:45] <Forage> ...Unless the software updater will download a lot less than the full iso
[13:45] <LinDol> ah.... i haven't know your network.. sorry, i think upgrading with livecd better
[14:02]  * Forage wonders: ...when are they finally going to nuke the bloody Rhythmbox...
[14:59] <mgedmin> if I enable the gnome3-staging PPA on xenial, will I regret it?
[15:00] <mgedmin> I see apt wants to remove seahorse-daemon for some reason
[15:00] <mgedmin> was it replaced by some other package, or will I lose the nice gpg keyring integration?
[15:00] <mgedmin> well, there's one way to find out ;)
[15:03] <darkxst_> mgedmin, there was a switch to gpupg-pinentry or whatever it is called, not entirely that is related to that though
[15:03] <darkxst_> gnome3-staging is mostly usable
[15:04] <darkxst_> but also well behind upstream releases, this release cycle (for xenial proper) was a fucker
[15:05] <mgedmin> yeah
[15:05] <mgedmin> the screen locker bug >_<
[15:06] <darkxst_> which? for upgrades
[15:07] <mgedmin> yes
[15:07] <darkxst_> idk how to fix that, and apparently upstream don't either
[15:07] <mgedmin> oh, was there a link to an upstream bug?  I didn't notice
[15:07] <darkxst_> you can boot it back to shape with some manual foo
[15:08] <darkxst_> no, mostly IRC discussions
[15:08] <mgedmin> I had to finish my upgrade with no window manager
[15:08] <mgedmin> after using an ssh client on my smartphone to pkill gnome-shell
[15:08] <darkxst_> because you manually locked it?
[15:09] <mgedmin> yup!  coffe break -- hit <lock screen> by reflex, dum-de-dum lali-da-da come back oops
[15:09] <darkxst_> how am I meant to fix that?
[15:09] <mgedmin> I'm not blaming you!
[15:10] <darkxst_> you get things back though, switch to a VT kill shell, launch metacity from the VT, then reload shell from metacity
[15:10] <darkxst_> but yeh thats a bit much for most users
[15:10] <darkxst_> and things just get worse with wayland ;(
[15:10] <mgedmin> what does the intermediate step (metacity) give you?
[15:11] <mgedmin> prevent gnome-shell from re-locking the screen when it launches?
[15:11] <darkxst_> dbus sessions etc
[15:11] <mgedmin> (I thought it would, and that's why I didn't restart it from my terminal)
[15:11] <darkxst_> if you launch shell from a VT its not going to find the dbus user session
[15:12] <darkxst_> and even if you set that, there must be other things missings
[15:12] <mgedmin> no, the environment variables are missing
[15:12] <mgedmin> but I thought if you launch metacity from /dev/tty1, then whatever you launch from that metacity would ... oh
[15:13] <mgedmin> you mean use an existing terminal that would have all the env vars
[15:13] <mgedmin> ok, that would work
[15:13] <mgedmin> nowadays things aren't that bad even without a window manager
[15:13] <mgedmin> I could change keyboard focus with my mouse
[15:13] <darkxst_> yes metacity gets your the envvars
[15:14] <mgedmin> a long time since I had to craft 'metacity' using middle-click copy and paste :)
[15:14] <darkxst_> short of scraping proc fs
[15:14] <darkxst_> in wayland if the compositor crashing, everything is gone ;(
[15:17] <mgedmin> brave new world
[15:17] <mgedmin> brb, rebooting into gdm 3.20
[15:25]  * darkxst_ sleeping now
[15:55] <mgedmin> well that took longer than expected
[15:55] <mgedmin> tried out a wayland session
[15:55] <mgedmin> things like xchat-gnome or gnome-settings-daemon segfault there
[15:56] <mgedmin> middle click works (yay!) but not inside vim (the "* register is empty)
[15:56] <mgedmin> studied journalctl jogs for 25 minutes, wrote down everything that seemed wrong and rebooted into an old-style X11 session
[15:56] <mgedmin> xchat-gnome's text area is strangely grey
[15:57] <mgedmin> mouse cursor (trackpoint) feels strangely quick
[15:57] <mgedmin> maybe wayland had a different acceleration profile and I got used to it during those 25 mins?
[15:57] <mgedmin> it feels fine again
[16:07] <LocutusOfBorg> hi darkxst seems that ubuntu-gnome works with rootless x
[16:07] <LocutusOfBorg> but xserver-xorg-legacy is still seeded...
[16:58] <try1604> hi guys!
[16:58] <try1604> im having issues with nvidia proprietary driver
[16:58] <try1604> when I start my pc the screen turns off
[16:59] <try1604> and I had this issue in ubuntu 14.04
[17:00] <KernelPanic> Hi everybody! I'm not sure if this is the right place to ask this, please apolgize me. Ubuntu 16.04 has been released and on http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-gnome/releases/16.04/release/ appeared a release .iso . On the ubuntu gnome website I can't find any news, is that iso the official release or does it is still in beta (the gnome version)?
[17:01] <MrJonny> Hey Guys, I got a problem with my gnome ubuntu. In certain apps including software centre I get two letter for key.
[17:01] <MrJonny> Hey Guys, I got a problem with my gnome ubuntu. In certain apps including software centre I get two letter for each key press.
[17:02] <KernelPanic> I'm sorry @MrJonny I can't reproduce the issue
[17:02] <KernelPanic> I'm using ubuntu gnome 15.10 at the moment
[17:04] <MrJonny> KernelPanic, I can't seem to get it working correctly. If you run the app as root its fine.
[17:07] <KernelPanic> unfortunately I can't help you. I've never had that issue and I'm not an expert.
[19:45] <BAHansen> Hello All. I'm sure its been talked about, but just thought I would drop in to see if the Ubuntu Gnome 16.04 build is ready on the daily build DL.
[19:45] <BAHansen> Guys still working through things?
[20:40] <jbicha> BAHansen: Ubuntu GNOME 16.04 LTS is released, download links are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/GetUbuntuGNOME
[21:09] <BAHansen> Thanks!