[03:45] G'morning guys, just checking in to see who the early birds are! [05:37] guten morgen [05:39] Kilos: Good Morning!! [05:39] hi pavlushka [05:40] Heya Kilos ! [05:41] whew you also speak like they yanks [05:41] hey and heya [05:41] too many movies [05:49] lol [05:49] hi andrewlsd [05:49] morning Kilos pavlushka [05:50] Kilos: May be its called love and admiration, :p [05:50] morning Langjan [05:50] andrewlsd: Morning! [05:51] andrewlsd leave him a message with maaz [05:52] Maaz: Tell Langjan Hey Early Bird [05:52] andrewlsd: Got it, I'll tell Langjan on freenode [05:55] Hi pavlushka where abouts are you (in a general/regional sense)? ZA North/S/E/W ? [05:55] (I'm za south) [05:55] he is in bangladesh [05:56] aah, so it _is_ your github page I found. [05:56] andrewlsd: :north east from za [05:56] pavlushka: :-) "hello-insance-sanebackend....." [05:57] s/insance/insane/ [05:57] andrewlsd: lol, yes [05:57] this is me on github: https://github.com/zerlgi [05:58] I think I have less hair than my gravatar suggests. [05:58] haha [06:00] andrewlsd: wow, I followed, :) [06:00] not much actual code, but lots of interesting repo's starred. [06:01] as, in "I haven't got much actual code there" [06:01] I use git a lot though, for config management stuff like salt/chef/puppet/ansible. [06:05] hmm [06:18] Maaz seen superfly [06:18] Kilos: superfly was last seen 11 hours, 20 minutes and 4 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2016-04-21 11:58:01 PDT], and has been offline on freenode since 2016-04-21 23:12:34 PDT [06:24] hi thatgraemeguy [07:02] Morning [07:02] hi Squirm [08:04] Good morning all. LSD is looking for DevOps, configmanagment, and DBA folks (especially Postgres ). Mainly for JHB area, maybe a couple for CT. If you're interested, feel free to check out http://www.lsd.co.za/#!careers/c1qim [08:05] ... and if you know someone who might be interested, please pass the info on to them. [08:19] morning all [08:31] hi chesedo bushtech [08:31] * Kilos watching sharks [08:31] Morning Kilos [09:14] Has anyone here had any experience with an Ubuntu phone? [09:14] Or Ubuntu Touch? [09:14] not me, but I'm also keen to find out. [09:17] Kilos: where are the sharks? [09:17] Good morning South Africa... and happy day-after-release-day-day er... :p [09:17] :P nlsthzn [09:20] :) what's up andrewlsd , all well I hope? [09:21] yip [09:22] glad to hear :) [09:23] so any release parties happen / happening in SA? [09:26] sharks just beat highlanders pavlushka [09:26] hi nlsthzn [09:28] hi uncle Kilos ... with my silly work schedule I didn't even realise it is Friday again >.< [09:28] was caught off guard to hear there is actually some rugby on today [09:28] Kilos: yeah [09:28] Kilos: I was thinking of the fish. [09:29] nlsthzn: why "blog of eight"? [09:30] andrewlsd, :) well I have always found infinity a facinating idea / concept and if there is such a thing as luck the number I would choose to represent it would be 8... and 8 kind of looks like the infinity symbol on its side so... no real reason actually :p [09:31] lol [09:33] ... but I hardly used it when I did a few years ago :/ [09:38] cheetahs rebels soon nlsthzn [09:38] thanks uncle Kilos ... but I am going for a quick nap in about ten minutes, night shift starting tonight :'( [09:39] rest well lad [09:39] will try, thx :) [09:49] nlsthzn: My son is in a couple of these: :-) someone I didn't appear in them. https://nlsthzn.com/2012/11/26/ubuntu-quantal-launch-party-for-johannesburg-and-pretoria/#jp-carousel-207 [09:49] Maaz: tell nlsthzn : https://nlsthzn.com/2012/11/26/ubuntu-quantal-launch-party-for-johannesburg-and-pretoria/#jp-carousel-207 [09:49] andrewlsd: Got it, I'll tell nlsthzn on freenode [09:50] andrewlsd, nice... I wasn't present myself as I haven't been in SA for a while but someone there submitted the photo's [09:50] nlsthzn: By the way, andrewlsd on freenode told me "tell nlsthzn : https://nlsthzn.com/2012/11/26/ubuntu-quantal-launch-party-for-johannesburg-and-pretoria/#jp-carousel-207" 48 seconds ago [09:51] maybe it was me who took the photos [09:51] would explain why I'm not in them. [09:51] Haven't seen Xsm for a long time!!!!!! [09:51] Xsm ? [09:52] maaz, tell Xsm that we miss him. [09:52] pavlushka: Sure, I'll tell xsm on freenode [09:53] andrewlsd: you dont know xsm? [09:53] I don't think so. [09:54] oh [09:56] ah ok, might explain it andrewlsd (and to be honest I suspect you are right) :) [09:58] well I go snooze, cheers all [09:58] cheerio [09:58] pavlushka: I couldn't find a whois entry for Xsm. [09:59] haha [09:59] Kilos: tell them, :p [09:59] he is only xsm when working on that hotels server [09:59] wolfeyes is xsm [09:59] and now? [09:59] server running fine [10:00] lol [10:00] So its wolfeyes !!!!!!!! [10:00] yes [10:01] nice one, ;p [10:01] when xsm comes on he needs help [10:06] maaz, tell wolfeyes that I was looking for Xsm but now I am not, :p [10:06] pavlushka: Righto, I'll tell Wolfeyes on freenode [10:06] haha [10:17] Hey all [10:18] hi mazal [10:19] Gaanit oom [10:40] Cape of Storms is having its first for the Winter season. Very impressive winds. [10:41] if anyone here can help me with http://askubuntu.com/questions/757279/how-to-connect-to-another-ubuntu-machine-using-the-same-router-but-one-is-connec ??? [10:41] mazal, Hi! [10:42] pavlushka: having a quick look [10:42] pavlushka: you have to have a share. [10:42] by default in Ubuntu you won't have anything shared. [10:44] running Xubuntu, other is Ubuntu, tell me how to share? [10:44] right click on a folder, check if there is an option to share it [10:44] do you want to share a folder (ie a "fileshare" ) [10:45] or do you want to give remote access via VNC? [10:45] I know it works in Ubuntu but I cant find it for Xubuntu [10:45] no, no vnc, I'll try that later if I wish. [10:46] check if you can go Menu --> Settings --> Shared Folders [10:47] Xubuntu's filemanager probably doesn't have the feature (or doesn't have the plugin installed by default) (since it aims to be lighter on resources) [10:48] getting nautilus right away [10:48] why? [10:49] you can get the settings via Control Centre [10:51] http://pasteboard.co/nhlCSXT.png [11:00] andrewlsd: ok, machines can not ping each other through the router, what about that? [11:01] what is each one's IP address? [11:29] power back [11:32] rewop [11:32] ^ power backwards [11:33] lol [11:49] andrewlsd: I fall asleep, sorry [11:50] Hi andrewlsd thks for the early bird message [11:51] :-) [11:52] andrewlsd: each one has 192.168.5. ip series, including the router and router is dhcp enabled but I try to connect after checking the ip on both machines. [11:52] if ip on each is 192.168.1.5 then you have a problem [11:52] they can both be 192.168.1. as long as the last number differs [11:53] sorry. I mis-read [11:53] what are the exact ip addresses? I suggest you use terminal and run this on each: [11:54] ip addr show dev eth0 [11:54] ip addr show dev wlan0 [11:54] (eth0 is lan, wlan0 is wifi) [11:54] no as dhcp is enable on the router, both machines get a random 192.168.5.** series ip when they connect. [11:55] enp2s1 is lan, wlp1s0 is wifi. [11:55] in terminal: [11:55] arp -n [11:56] 192.168.5.** ether f8:e9:03:81:d3:34 C enp2s1, its the router's ip address [11:57] for example mine shows: https://bin.snyman.info/mmmn3ayz [11:57] that means that the router seems to be doing filtering [11:57] check wifi settings on router, disable any "isolation" setting [11:58] (isolation is a nice feature, protects your LAN from your wifi, in case it is not adequately protected) [11:58] mine http://paste.ubuntu.com/15979977/ [12:01] you shouldn't be getting ** [12:01] is that an Ubuntu machine? [12:02] sorry, dumb question. you already said it was [12:09] reconnecting in a moment [12:11] * andrewlsd is back [12:16] andrewlsd [12:16] got your thinking cap on [12:17] i installed clamtk but when i start if i get and error, first it doesnt start from its icon so i started it from cli [12:17] here is the error [12:18] Icon 'gtk-new' not present in theme at /usr/share/perl5/ClamTk/GUI.pm line 259. [12:18] i tried nano /usr/share/perl5/ClamTk/ [12:18] but thats empty [12:19] oh lemme try with gui.pm as well [12:19] Kilos: so you fear, your machine caught virus? [12:19] Kilos: the reason to use clamtk!!! [12:19] checking emails [12:20] i dont want to spread anything to peeps that arent on linux [12:20] copy that [12:21] can aslo check home for anything not good [12:22] Kilos what mail provider you using? [12:22] (many of them already scan for virii) [12:23] gmail yhoo and msn i think [12:23] hi Langjan [12:23] Hi Kilos you ok? [12:23] hhet jy dit [12:23] and andrewlsd , what about me? [12:23] yes why? [12:23] did the young man come around? [12:24] yes he left here at 1.30 [12:24] gmail does scan already [12:24] pavlushka: I'm waiting for your answer about "isolation" [12:24] ok many thks, should be here within 30 mins or so, will confirm [12:24] sec i go chase sheep [12:24] make chops [12:25] sheep chops pretty good if you can afford them, did Pieter bring one? [12:25] andrewlsd: sorry, I didn't follow, there was a power cut, my machine rebooted. [12:25] ok, [12:26] I asked you to log onto the router to disable any user/IP isolation that it might be doing [12:26] andrewlsd: on it [12:26] pavlushka: you can check the IRC log at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2016/04/22/%23ubuntu-za.html [12:27] (useful for copy-paste stuff) [12:27] but it has a sync lag, I am logging it into disk, it reloaded, I can see that. [12:28] Yip, I think it only updates every 10-15 minutes. [12:28] (not realtime) [12:29] andrewlsd: in my router, in wifi tab, Enable MultiAP Isolation was checked. [12:30] I have no clue about it. [12:33] lol [12:36] pavlushka: that should sort it out. [12:36] andrewlsd: I think so, :) [12:36] once you've unchecked it (and it has updated its settings) try the ping again [12:39] Kilos: you knew that? ^ [12:40] your sheep Kilos ? [12:41] I am concerned Kilos ! :p [12:42] andrewlsd: yea... it works!! [12:42] neighbours with our ram with them Langjan [12:43] pavlushka concentrate on fixing your prob [12:44] im using all the sheep to clear the weeds and long grass before winter comes [12:44] So you have a ram? Mooi man, good idea [12:45] Automated lawn mowers [12:45] also add to fertilising [12:45] yip [12:45] how many gigs your ram? [12:46] yes ram is all thats left after evil neighbour with poisoned greens and dogs and theft [12:46] ram to big to run away with [12:46] ai! [12:46] eish! [12:46] about 90 kgs of ram [12:46] livestock theft is a big problem [12:47] yeah [12:47] lots of chops there... [12:47] yeah [12:47] andrewlsd: what next?? [12:47] thats when they steal, xmas new year [12:47] whew! so where the ram going when you go to oz? [12:48] he will stay with next doors sheep [12:48] been there 3 weeks already [12:48] ok and make more chops [12:48] you got a big plot there? [12:48] only that guy works 12 hour shifts so i look after them [12:49] ok [12:49] na i think 2.5 hectare [12:49] nice, what else do you do on the plot? [12:49] sleep and chat on irc [12:50] no veggies, fruit? [12:50] 8 pecan nut trees [12:50] bearing good? [12:50] herbs and veggies on small piece [12:51] yes this was a bad year but should still be about 40 kgs of nuts [12:51] good, do you sell some nuts, veggies, herbs? [12:52] but veggies and sheep and one naughty jersey bull calf dont work well [12:52] about 5 kg per tree, what is the normal yield in a good year? [12:52] no veggies we eat [12:53] nuts we eat and pick up and sis bakes a with them [12:53] next summer neighbour gonna pic up and sell for us [12:53] Great, home-grown veggies is best. [12:53] yip [12:54] Good, nuts are expensive. Pieter is in town, expecting him in a few minutes. [12:54] had lots of tomatoes and bringle and peppadews and spinach and green peppers and i forget what else [12:54] whew he should be in linpopo already [12:55] Sounds great! Did Pieter chat for a while or just pick the drive up? [12:55] bringal [12:55] he foned and said where must he go [12:55] haha [12:55] he was at the front door [12:55] we had power cut [12:55] did he get lost? oh [12:56] then rugby so i forgot about him [12:56] whe n he foned i rushed out with drive [12:56] andrewlsd: So what to do now to have access to the other machine?? [12:56] he must be busy pavlushka [12:56] patience [12:57] Langjan with luck that drive will boot into bento [12:58] i added Tannie account just in case [12:58] if it works and you dont like bento you can install 14.04 32 bit [12:59] that bento is 14.04 [13:00] pavlushka: now you need [13:00] pavlushka: now you need to decide what to share. [13:00] pavlushka: and where to share it from. [13:01] if sharing from Xubuntu: Menu --> Control Centre, [13:01] I already shared folder in both machines [13:01] then search for "share" [13:01] aah [13:01] then browse to [13:01] smb://192.168.5.x (where x is the number for the other computer) [13:02] if you're lucky you can just use the file-browser to browse the network [13:02] and you'll find them them [13:02] there [13:04] the browser shows the folder but dont let me in [13:06] you need to set up a user/password that has access to the shares (or make them available to guest. [13:08] I made them available as guest, not working, I am setting a normal user now, will that do? [13:09] no idea. [13:09] sorry, I need to disappear. [13:12] Kilos, pieter is here, many thks for the drive [13:12] gonna go now, chat later [15:03] Why do I always miss him? [15:08] who? [15:08] andy? [15:16] Kilos: good news, its all done, me connecting to the other machine through ssh. [15:16] Hello superfly !!! [15:19] yay [15:20] Kilos: \o/ [15:20] How are you super superfly (deb)?? [15:21] i had hassles setting up 2 pcs to share one internet connection but the ssh worked first time [15:21] direct cable connection [15:21] Kilos: no , through router, lan to wlan. [15:22] superfly: I was just kidding, would you mind, :| [15:22] i used direct cable [15:22] he will answer when he can pavlushka [15:22] you need to write on paper patience [15:22] and stic it to the top of your screen [15:23] Kilos: lol, right. [15:23] you have seen on locoteams sometimes it takes all day for an answer [15:24] I was answered in #sane on the 2nd day, but all thing was quite otherwise. [15:24] ;p [15:25] lol [15:25] patience [15:58] http://imgur.com/1AARHZ5 [16:01] where is that superfly ? [16:03] That's my photo [16:07] from where and of what place [16:07] you have a big river running past you? [16:09] superfly: its nice, :) [16:11] Kilos: is a vlei. An estuary [16:11] ah ty [16:11] go fishing [16:12] It's going to be a little wet tonight [16:12] lol [16:59] * mazal peeks in [17:05] * pavlushka pushes mazal back,! [17:05] * Cryterion watches why the pushing is going on [17:18] lol === MaNL is now known as MaNI [17:22] superfly: Are you angry with me? sorry superfly if i did anything you didn't like. [17:32] pavlushka: nope, just busy [17:32] I have a life outside of IRC [17:32] whew, thanks and lol, :) [18:01] wb Cryterion [18:02] tks kilos [18:02] not here long, on my way out for the night :) [18:02] was that a supper break [18:02] enjoy [18:03] lol, going to get dinner there, was a get home from work and get ready break [18:03] if you feel bad tomorrow morning you enjoyed too much [18:03] ah [18:03] yeah I know [18:04] Supper is had, children are in bed (mostly), and now I can finally get off my feet. phew. [18:04] but can't be too late anyway, working tomorrow :( [18:04] Cryterion: goodluck, :p [18:04] tks [18:04] ok I'm out :) [18:04] go safe [18:05] Kilos: you're a mechanic, why's my car not starting? [18:05] 500meters? [18:05] what does it do superfly [18:05] * Cryterion thinks superfly needs to buy a bottle of blue sparks [18:05] cheers guys [18:05] Kilos: turns, petrol pump is working, there's electricty to the spark plugs, but it's not starting [18:06] oh spark on plugs even? [18:06] then its fuel [18:06] Kilos: based on prior experience I thought it might be the coil. replaced that, still not working [18:06] Kilos: full(ish) tank [18:07] when you pull a plug lead off plug and hold it near metal does a spark jump [18:07] Kilos: I think it's my spark plugs, I took them out and cleaned them, they were very dirty :-( [18:08] not often all plugs die same time [18:09] when last did you change the fuel filter [18:09] ages ago [18:09] first things first always [18:10] * superfly is sadly quite far behind on these things... he doesn't know and he doesn't have the money to pay someone who knows [18:10] plug out and resting on engine metal [18:10] Good night guys! [18:10] if it sparks then its not electrical pro [18:10] b [18:10] night pavlushka [18:10] second ly [18:11] remove fuel pipe where it comes from pump to carb and see if fuel squirts out when cranking motor [18:11] fuel filters should be renewed maybe twice a year [18:12] Kilos: there's a spark, but I can't confirm that the spark plugs themselves are not faulty [18:12] Kilos: I don't have a carb... fuel injected [18:12] ah [18:13] fuel injection very finicky with filters [18:14] there should even be one in the fuel tank [18:15] or just below [18:19] superfly what kinda car? [18:19] VW Jetta 3, '93 model [18:20] if its same as jetta 2 then there is an eletrical fuel pump by the fuel tank and a filter right by it [18:21] that filter is critical [18:21] if blocked the pump packs up [18:22] when you turn the key on you should hear it hum for a few secs [18:22] that pump is very expensive [18:22] was R1500 last one i bought [18:27] the filter is large, not an inline filter [18:37] Kilos: it hums [18:37] now [18:38] if you had paid attention everytime it hummed since you got the car then you learn that a change in the hum means filter getting blocked [18:38] not something many peeps know that arent mechanics [18:39] but lets try work something out [18:39] did it first start miss firing [18:39] or just dead one morning [18:43] Kilos: it still hums the same way [18:44] Kilos: it was having starting issues for a few weeks before dying while running one morning, and not starting again [18:45] google changing vw jetta 3 93 model fuel filter [18:46] ai! [18:46] Maaz google changing vw jetta 3 93 model fuel filter [18:46] Kilos: "DIY: how to replace fuel filter on mk3 Vw jetta / golf - YouTube" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6p71xYdHbs :: "VW A3: Fuel Filter Removing / Checking / Replacing - YouTube" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QomHEkv7CaQ :: "How to Change a Fuel Filter : How to Remove Car Parts to Reach ..." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0Sir1VYqTE :: "DIY: MK4 Jetta/Golf [18:46] fuel filter replacment - YouTube" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqTDo_XBCcs :: "How to… [18:47] one of those can most likely explain better than i can from memory superfly [18:48] pity you dont know a vw mechanic there, the guys that work on them daily can often tell just by listening [18:48] I've been Youtubing :-) [18:48] hehe [18:49] and dont bother cleaning spark plugs, change them at least yearly [19:00] i hate it when everything is on youtube but for uncapped peeps i spose its great [19:00] easier than trying to explain with words [19:02] inetpro you can greet you know [19:02] Maaz seen inetpro [19:02] Kilos: inetpro was last seen 1 day, 2 hours and 39 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2016-04-21 10:02:16 PDT], and has been online on freenode since 2016-04-17 01:09:20 PDT [19:03] sjoe [19:04] no [19:04] impossible [19:05] no what [19:05] i was been here [19:05]