[03:45] <Langjan> G'morning guys, just checking in to see who the early birds are!
[05:37] <Kilos> guten morgen
[05:39] <pavlushka> Kilos: Good Morning!!
[05:39] <Kilos> hi pavlushka 
[05:40] <pavlushka> Heya Kilos !
[05:41] <Kilos> whew you also speak like they yanks
[05:41] <Kilos> hey and heya
[05:41] <Kilos> too many movies
[05:49] <pavlushka> lol
[05:49] <Kilos> hi andrewlsd 
[05:49] <andrewlsd> morning Kilos pavlushka 
[05:50] <pavlushka> Kilos: May be its called love and admiration, :p
[05:50] <andrewlsd> morning Langjan
[05:50] <pavlushka> andrewlsd: Morning!
[05:51] <Kilos> andrewlsd leave him a message with maaz
[05:52] <andrewlsd> Maaz: Tell Langjan Hey Early Bird
[05:52] <Maaz> andrewlsd: Got it, I'll tell Langjan on freenode
[05:55] <andrewlsd> Hi pavlushka where abouts are you (in a general/regional sense)?  ZA North/S/E/W ?
[05:55] <andrewlsd> (I'm za south)
[05:55] <Kilos> he is in bangladesh
[05:56] <andrewlsd> aah, so it _is_ your github page I found.
[05:56] <pavlushka> andrewlsd: :north east from za
[05:56] <andrewlsd> pavlushka:   :-)   "hello-insance-sanebackend....."
[05:57] <andrewlsd> s/insance/insane/
[05:57] <pavlushka> andrewlsd: lol, yes
[05:57] <andrewlsd> this is me on github: https://github.com/zerlgi
[05:58] <andrewlsd> I think I have less hair than my gravatar suggests.
[05:58] <Kilos> haha
[06:00] <pavlushka> andrewlsd: wow, I followed, :)
[06:00] <andrewlsd> not much actual code, but lots of interesting repo's starred.
[06:01] <andrewlsd> as, in "I haven't got much actual code there"
[06:01] <andrewlsd> I use git a lot though, for config management stuff like salt/chef/puppet/ansible.
[06:05] <pavlushka> hmm
[06:18] <Kilos> Maaz seen superfly
[06:18] <Maaz> Kilos: superfly was last seen 11 hours, 20 minutes and 4 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2016-04-21 11:58:01 PDT], and has been offline on freenode since 2016-04-21 23:12:34 PDT
[06:24] <Kilos> hi thatgraemeguy 
[07:02] <Squirm> Morning
[07:02] <Kilos> hi Squirm 
[08:04] <andrewlsd>  Good morning all. LSD is looking for DevOps, configmanagment, and DBA folks (especially Postgres ). Mainly for JHB area, maybe a couple for CT.   If you're interested, feel free to check out http://www.lsd.co.za/#!careers/c1qim
[08:05] <andrewlsd> ... and if you know someone who might be interested, please pass the info on to them.
[08:19] <chesedo> morning all
[08:31] <Kilos> hi chesedo bushtech 
[08:31]  * Kilos watching sharks
[08:31] <bushtech> Morning Kilos
[09:14] <Squirm> Has anyone here had any experience with an Ubuntu phone?
[09:14] <Squirm> Or Ubuntu Touch?
[09:14] <andrewlsd> not me, but I'm also keen to find out.
[09:17] <andrewlsd> Kilos: where are the sharks?
[09:17] <nlsthzn> Good morning South Africa... and happy day-after-release-day-day er...  :p
[09:17] <andrewlsd> :P nlsthzn 
[09:20] <nlsthzn> :) what's up andrewlsd , all well I hope?
[09:21] <andrewlsd> yip
[09:22] <nlsthzn> glad to hear :)
[09:23] <nlsthzn> so any release parties happen / happening in SA?
[09:26] <Kilos> sharks just beat highlanders pavlushka 
[09:26] <Kilos> hi nlsthzn 
[09:28] <nlsthzn> hi uncle Kilos ... with my silly work schedule I didn't even realise it is Friday again >.<
[09:28] <nlsthzn> was caught off guard to hear there is actually some rugby on today 
[09:28] <pavlushka> Kilos: yeah
[09:28] <andrewlsd> Kilos: I was thinking of the fish.
[09:29] <andrewlsd> nlsthzn: why "blog of eight"?
[09:30] <nlsthzn> andrewlsd, :) well I have always found infinity a facinating idea / concept and if there is such a thing as luck the number I would choose to represent it would be 8... and 8 kind of looks like the infinity symbol on its side so... no real reason actually :p
[09:31] <Kilos> lol
[09:33] <nlsthzn> ... but I hardly used it when I did a few years ago :/
[09:38] <Kilos> cheetahs rebels soon nlsthzn 
[09:38] <nlsthzn> thanks uncle Kilos ... but I am going for a quick nap in about ten minutes, night shift starting tonight :'(
[09:39] <Kilos> rest well lad
[09:39] <nlsthzn> will try, thx :)
[09:49] <andrewlsd> nlsthzn: My son is in a couple of these: :-)  someone I didn't appear in them. https://nlsthzn.com/2012/11/26/ubuntu-quantal-launch-party-for-johannesburg-and-pretoria/#jp-carousel-207
[09:49] <andrewlsd> Maaz: tell nlsthzn : https://nlsthzn.com/2012/11/26/ubuntu-quantal-launch-party-for-johannesburg-and-pretoria/#jp-carousel-207
[09:49] <Maaz> andrewlsd: Got it, I'll tell nlsthzn on freenode
[09:50] <nlsthzn> andrewlsd, nice... I wasn't present myself as I haven't been in SA for a while but someone there submitted the photo's 
[09:50] <Maaz> nlsthzn: By the way, andrewlsd on freenode told me "tell nlsthzn : https://nlsthzn.com/2012/11/26/ubuntu-quantal-launch-party-for-johannesburg-and-pretoria/#jp-carousel-207" 48 seconds ago
[09:51] <andrewlsd> maybe it was me who took the photos
[09:51] <andrewlsd> would explain why I'm not in them.
[09:51] <pavlushka> Haven't seen Xsm for a long time!!!!!!
[09:51] <andrewlsd> Xsm ?
[09:52] <pavlushka> maaz, tell Xsm that we miss him.
[09:52] <Maaz> pavlushka: Sure, I'll tell xsm on freenode
[09:53] <pavlushka> andrewlsd: you dont know xsm?
[09:53] <andrewlsd> I don't think so.
[09:54] <pavlushka> oh
[09:56] <nlsthzn> ah ok, might explain it andrewlsd (and to be honest I suspect you are right) :)
[09:58] <nlsthzn> well I go snooze, cheers all
[09:58] <andrewlsd> cheerio
[09:58] <andrewlsd> pavlushka: I couldn't find a whois entry for Xsm.
[09:59] <Kilos> haha
[09:59] <pavlushka> Kilos: tell them, :p
[09:59] <Kilos> he is only xsm when working on that hotels server
[09:59] <Kilos> wolfeyes is xsm
[09:59] <pavlushka> and now?
[09:59] <Kilos> server running fine
[10:00] <pavlushka> lol
[10:00] <pavlushka> So its wolfeyes !!!!!!!!
[10:00] <Kilos> yes
[10:01] <pavlushka> nice one, ;p
[10:01] <Kilos> when xsm comes on he needs help
[10:06] <pavlushka> maaz, tell wolfeyes that I was looking for Xsm but now I am not, :p
[10:06] <Maaz> pavlushka: Righto, I'll tell Wolfeyes on freenode
[10:06] <Kilos> haha
[10:17] <mazal> Hey all
[10:18] <Kilos> hi mazal 
[10:19] <mazal> Gaanit oom
[10:40] <andrewlsd> Cape of Storms is having its first for the Winter season. Very impressive winds.
[10:41] <pavlushka> if anyone here can help me with http://askubuntu.com/questions/757279/how-to-connect-to-another-ubuntu-machine-using-the-same-router-but-one-is-connec ???
[10:41] <pavlushka> mazal, Hi!
[10:42] <andrewlsd> pavlushka: having a quick look
[10:42] <andrewlsd> pavlushka: you have to have a share.
[10:42] <andrewlsd> by default in Ubuntu you won't have anything shared.
[10:44] <pavlushka> running Xubuntu, other is Ubuntu, tell me how to share?
[10:44] <andrewlsd> right click on a folder, check if there is an option to share it
[10:44] <andrewlsd> do you want to share a folder (ie a "fileshare" )
[10:45] <andrewlsd> or do you want to give remote access via VNC?
[10:45] <pavlushka> I know it works in Ubuntu but I cant find it for Xubuntu
[10:45] <pavlushka> no, no vnc, I'll try that later if I wish.
[10:46] <andrewlsd> check if you can go Menu --> Settings --> Shared Folders
[10:47] <andrewlsd> Xubuntu's filemanager probably doesn't have the feature (or doesn't have the plugin installed by default) (since it aims to be lighter on resources)
[10:48] <pavlushka> getting nautilus right away
[10:48] <andrewlsd> why?
[10:49] <andrewlsd> you can get the settings via Control Centre
[10:51] <andrewlsd> http://pasteboard.co/nhlCSXT.png
[11:00] <pavlushka> andrewlsd: ok, machines can not ping each other through the router, what about that?
[11:01] <andrewlsd> what is each one's IP address?
[11:29] <Kilos> power back
[11:32] <andrewlsd> rewop
[11:32] <andrewlsd> ^ power backwards
[11:33] <Kilos> lol
[11:49] <pavlushka> andrewlsd: I fall asleep, sorry
[11:50] <Langjan> Hi andrewlsd thks for the early bird message
[11:51] <andrewlsd> :-)
[11:52] <pavlushka> andrewlsd: each one has 192.168.5. ip series, including the router and router is dhcp enabled but I try to connect after checking the ip on both machines.
[11:52] <andrewlsd> if ip on each is 192.168.1.5 then you have a problem
[11:52] <andrewlsd> they can both be 192.168.1. as long as the last number differs
[11:53] <andrewlsd> sorry. I mis-read
[11:53] <andrewlsd> what are the exact ip addresses? I suggest you use terminal and run this on each:
[11:54] <andrewlsd> ip addr show dev eth0
[11:54] <andrewlsd> ip addr show dev wlan0
[11:54] <andrewlsd> (eth0 is lan, wlan0 is wifi)
[11:54] <pavlushka> no  as dhcp is enable on the router, both machines get a random 192.168.5.** series ip when they connect.
[11:55] <pavlushka> enp2s1 is lan, wlp1s0 is wifi.
[11:55] <andrewlsd> in terminal:
[11:55] <andrewlsd> arp -n
[11:56] <pavlushka> 192.168.5.**             ether   f8:e9:03:81:d3:34   C                     enp2s1, its the router's ip address
[11:57] <andrewlsd> for example mine shows: https://bin.snyman.info/mmmn3ayz
[11:57] <andrewlsd> that means that the router seems to be doing filtering
[11:57] <andrewlsd> check wifi settings on router, disable  any "isolation" setting
[11:58] <andrewlsd> (isolation is a nice feature, protects your LAN from your wifi, in case it is not adequately protected)
[11:58] <pavlushka> mine http://paste.ubuntu.com/15979977/
[12:01] <andrewlsd> you shouldn't be getting **
[12:01] <andrewlsd> is that an Ubuntu machine?
[12:02] <andrewlsd> sorry, dumb question. you already said it was
[12:09] <andrewlsd> reconnecting in a moment
[12:11]  * andrewlsd is back
[12:16] <Kilos> andrewlsd 
[12:16] <Kilos> got your thinking cap on
[12:17] <Kilos> i installed clamtk but when i start if i get and error, first it doesnt start from its icon so i started it from cli
[12:17] <Kilos> here is the error
[12:18] <Kilos> Icon 'gtk-new' not present in theme at /usr/share/perl5/ClamTk/GUI.pm line 259.
[12:18] <Kilos> i tried nano /usr/share/perl5/ClamTk/
[12:18] <Kilos> but thats empty
[12:19] <Kilos> oh lemme try with gui.pm as well
[12:19] <pavlushka> Kilos: so you fear, your machine caught virus?
[12:19] <pavlushka> Kilos: the reason to use clamtk!!!
[12:19] <Kilos> checking emails
[12:20] <Kilos> i dont want to spread anything to peeps that arent on linux
[12:20] <pavlushka> copy that
[12:21] <Kilos> can aslo check home for anything not good
[12:22] <andrewlsd> Kilos what mail provider you using?
[12:22] <andrewlsd> (many of them already scan for virii)
[12:23] <Kilos> gmail yhoo and msn i think
[12:23] <Kilos> hi Langjan 
[12:23] <Langjan> Hi Kilos you ok?
[12:23] <Kilos> hhet jy dit
[12:23] <pavlushka> and andrewlsd , what about me?
[12:23] <Kilos> yes why?
[12:23] <Langjan> did the young man come around?
[12:24] <Kilos> yes he left here at 1.30
[12:24] <andrewlsd> gmail does scan already
[12:24] <andrewlsd> pavlushka: I'm waiting for your answer about "isolation"
[12:24] <Langjan> ok many thks, should be here within 30 mins or so, will confirm
[12:24] <Kilos> sec i go chase sheep
[12:24] <Langjan> make chops
[12:25] <Langjan> sheep chops pretty good if you can afford them, did Pieter bring one?
[12:25] <pavlushka> andrewlsd: sorry, I didn't follow, there was a power cut, my machine rebooted.
[12:25] <andrewlsd> ok, 
[12:26] <andrewlsd> I asked you to log onto the router to disable any user/IP isolation that it might be doing
[12:26] <pavlushka> andrewlsd: on it
[12:26] <andrewlsd> pavlushka: you can check the IRC log at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2016/04/22/%23ubuntu-za.html
[12:27] <andrewlsd> (useful for copy-paste stuff)
[12:27] <pavlushka> but it has a sync lag, I am logging it into disk, it reloaded, I can see that.
[12:28] <andrewlsd> Yip, I think it only updates every 10-15 minutes.
[12:28] <andrewlsd> (not realtime)
[12:29] <pavlushka> andrewlsd: in my router, in wifi tab, Enable MultiAP Isolation was checked.
[12:30] <pavlushka> I have no clue about it.
[12:33] <Kilos> lol
[12:36] <andrewlsd> pavlushka: that should sort it out.
[12:36] <pavlushka> andrewlsd: I think so, :)
[12:36] <andrewlsd> once you've unchecked it (and it has updated its settings) try the ping again
[12:39] <pavlushka> Kilos: you knew that? ^
[12:40] <Langjan> your sheep Kilos ?
[12:41] <pavlushka> I am concerned Kilos ! :p
[12:42] <pavlushka> andrewlsd: yea... it works!!
[12:42] <Kilos> neighbours with our ram with them Langjan 
[12:43] <Kilos> pavlushka concentrate on fixing your prob
[12:44] <Kilos> im using all the sheep to clear the weeds and long grass before winter comes
[12:44] <Langjan> So you have a ram? Mooi man, good idea 
[12:45] <Langjan> Automated lawn mowers 
[12:45] <Langjan> also add to fertilising
[12:45] <Kilos> yip
[12:45] <Langjan> how  many gigs your ram?
[12:46] <Kilos> yes ram is all thats left after evil neighbour with poisoned greens and dogs and theft
[12:46] <Kilos> ram to big to run away with
[12:46] <Kilos> ai!
[12:46] <Langjan> eish! 
[12:46] <Kilos> about 90 kgs of ram
[12:46] <Langjan> livestock theft is a big problem
[12:47] <Kilos> yeah
[12:47] <Langjan> lots of chops there...
[12:47] <Kilos> yeah
[12:47] <pavlushka> andrewlsd: what next??
[12:47] <Kilos> thats when they steal, xmas new year
[12:47] <Langjan> whew! so where the ram going when you go to oz?
[12:48] <Kilos> he will stay with next doors sheep
[12:48] <Kilos> been there 3 weeks already
[12:48] <Langjan> ok and make more chops
[12:48] <Langjan> you got a big plot there?
[12:48] <Kilos> only that guy works 12 hour shifts so i look after them 
[12:49] <Langjan> ok
[12:49] <Kilos> na i think 2.5 hectare
[12:49] <Langjan> nice, what else do you do on the plot?
[12:49] <Kilos> sleep and chat on irc
[12:50] <Langjan> no veggies, fruit?
[12:50] <Kilos> 8 pecan nut  trees
[12:50] <Langjan> bearing good?
[12:50] <Kilos> herbs and veggies on small piece
[12:51] <Kilos> yes this was a bad year but should still be about 40 kgs of nuts
[12:51] <Langjan> good, do you sell some nuts, veggies, herbs?
[12:52] <Kilos> but veggies and sheep and one naughty jersey bull calf dont work well
[12:52] <Langjan> about 5 kg per tree, what is the normal yield in a good year?
[12:52] <Kilos> no veggies we eat
[12:53] <Kilos> nuts we eat and pick up and sis bakes a with them
[12:53] <Kilos> next summer neighbour gonna pic up and sell for us
[12:53] <Langjan> Great, home-grown veggies is best.  
[12:53] <Kilos> yip
[12:54] <Langjan> Good, nuts are expensive. Pieter is in town, expecting him in  a few minutes. 
[12:54] <Kilos> had lots of tomatoes and bringle and peppadews and spinach and green peppers and i forget what else
[12:54] <Kilos> whew he should be in linpopo already
[12:55] <Langjan> Sounds great! Did Pieter chat for a while or just pick the drive up? 
[12:55] <Kilos> bringal
[12:55] <Kilos> he foned and said where must he go
[12:55] <Kilos> haha
[12:55] <Kilos> he was at the front door
[12:55] <Kilos> we had power cut 
[12:55] <Langjan> did he get lost? oh
[12:56] <Kilos> then rugby so i forgot about him
[12:56] <Kilos> whe n he foned i rushed out with drive
[12:56] <pavlushka> andrewlsd: So what to do now to have access to the other machine??
[12:56] <Kilos> he must be busy pavlushka 
[12:56] <Kilos> patience
[12:57] <Kilos> Langjan with luck that drive will boot into bento
[12:58] <Kilos> i added Tannie account just in case
[12:58] <Kilos> if it works and you dont like bento you can install 14.04 32 bit
[12:59] <Kilos> that bento is 14.04
[13:00] <andrewlsd> pavlushka:  now you need
[13:00] <andrewlsd> pavlushka: now you need to decide what to share.
[13:00] <andrewlsd> pavlushka: and where to share it from.
[13:01] <andrewlsd> if sharing from Xubuntu: Menu --> Control Centre, 
[13:01] <pavlushka> I already shared folder in both machines
[13:01] <andrewlsd> then search for "share"
[13:01] <andrewlsd> aah
[13:01] <andrewlsd> then browse to 
[13:01] <andrewlsd> smb://192.168.5.x   (where x is the number for the other computer)
[13:02] <andrewlsd> if you're lucky you can just use the file-browser to browse the network
[13:02] <andrewlsd> and you'll find them them
[13:02] <andrewlsd> there
[13:04] <pavlushka> the browser shows the folder but dont let me in
[13:06] <andrewlsd> you need to set up a user/password that has access to the shares (or make them available to guest.
[13:08] <pavlushka> I made them available as guest, not working, I am setting a normal user now, will that do?
[13:09] <andrewlsd> no idea.
[13:09] <andrewlsd> sorry, I need to disappear.
[13:12] <Langjan> Kilos, pieter is here, many thks for the drive
[13:12] <Langjan> gonna go now, chat later
[15:03] <superfly> Why do I always miss him? 
[15:08] <Kilos> who?
[15:08] <Kilos> andy?
[15:16] <pavlushka> Kilos: good news, its all done, me connecting to the other machine through ssh.
[15:16] <pavlushka> Hello superfly !!!
[15:19] <Kilos> yay
[15:20] <pavlushka> Kilos: \o/
[15:20] <pavlushka> How are you super superfly (deb)??
[15:21] <Kilos> i had hassles setting up 2 pcs to share one internet connection but the ssh worked first time
[15:21] <Kilos> direct cable connection
[15:21] <pavlushka> Kilos: no , through router, lan to wlan.
[15:22] <pavlushka> superfly: I was just kidding, would you mind, :|
[15:22] <Kilos> i used direct cable
[15:22] <Kilos> he will answer when he can pavlushka 
[15:22] <Kilos> you need to write on paper patience
[15:22] <Kilos> and stic it to the top of your screen
[15:23] <pavlushka> Kilos: lol, right.
[15:23] <Kilos> you have seen on locoteams sometimes it takes all day for an answer
[15:24] <pavlushka> I was answered in #sane on the 2nd day, but all thing was quite otherwise.
[15:24] <pavlushka> ;p
[15:25] <Kilos> lol
[15:25] <Kilos> patience
[15:58] <superfly> http://imgur.com/1AARHZ5
[16:01] <Kilos> where is that superfly ?
[16:03] <superfly> That's my photo 
[16:07] <Kilos> from where and of what place
[16:07] <Kilos> you have a big river running past you?
[16:09] <pavlushka> superfly: its nice, :)
[16:11] <superfly> Kilos: is a vlei. An estuary 
[16:11] <Kilos> ah ty
[16:11] <Kilos> go fishing
[16:12] <superfly> It's going to be a little wet tonight 
[16:12] <Kilos> lol
[16:59]  * mazal peeks in
[17:05]  * pavlushka pushes mazal back,!
[17:05]  * Cryterion watches why the pushing is going on
[17:18] <Kilos> lol
[17:22] <pavlushka> superfly: Are you angry with me? sorry superfly if i did anything you didn't like.
[17:32] <superfly> pavlushka: nope, just busy 
[17:32] <superfly> I have a life outside of IRC
[17:32] <pavlushka> whew, thanks and lol, :)
[18:01] <Kilos> wb Cryterion 
[18:02] <Cryterion> tks kilos
[18:02] <Cryterion> not here long, on my way out for the night :)
[18:02] <Kilos> was that a supper break
[18:02] <Kilos> enjoy
[18:03] <Cryterion> lol, going to get dinner there, was a get home from work and get ready break
[18:03] <Kilos> if you feel bad tomorrow morning you enjoyed too much
[18:03] <Kilos> ah
[18:03] <Cryterion> yeah I know
[18:04] <superfly> Supper is had, children are in bed (mostly), and now I can finally get off my feet. phew.
[18:04] <Cryterion> but can't be too late anyway, working tomorrow :(
[18:04] <pavlushka> Cryterion: goodluck, :p
[18:04] <Cryterion> tks
[18:04] <Cryterion> ok I'm out :)
[18:04] <Kilos> go safe
[18:05] <superfly> Kilos: you're a mechanic, why's my car not starting?
[18:05] <Cryterion> 500meters?
[18:05] <Kilos> what does it do superfly 
[18:05]  * Cryterion thinks superfly needs to buy a bottle of blue sparks
[18:05] <Cryterion> cheers guys
[18:05] <superfly> Kilos: turns, petrol pump is working, there's electricty to the spark plugs, but it's not starting
[18:06] <Kilos> oh spark on plugs even?
[18:06] <Kilos> then its fuel
[18:06] <superfly> Kilos: based on prior experience I thought it might be the coil. replaced that, still not working
[18:06] <superfly> Kilos: full(ish) tank
[18:07] <Kilos> when you pull a plug lead off plug and hold it near metal does a spark jump
[18:07] <superfly> Kilos: I think it's my spark plugs, I took them out and cleaned them, they were very dirty :-(
[18:08] <Kilos> not often all plugs die same time
[18:09] <Kilos> when last did you change the fuel filter
[18:09] <superfly> ages ago
[18:09] <Kilos> first things first always
[18:10]  * superfly is sadly quite far behind on these things... he doesn't know and he doesn't have the money to pay someone who knows
[18:10] <Kilos> plug out and resting on engine metal
[18:10] <pavlushka> Good night guys!
[18:10] <Kilos> if it sparks then its not electrical pro
[18:10] <Kilos> b
[18:10] <Kilos> night pavlushka 
[18:10] <Kilos> second ly
[18:11] <Kilos> remove fuel pipe where it comes from pump to carb and see if fuel squirts out when cranking motor
[18:11] <Kilos> fuel filters should be renewed maybe twice a year
[18:12] <superfly> Kilos: there's a spark, but I can't confirm that the spark plugs themselves are not faulty
[18:12] <superfly> Kilos: I don't have a carb... fuel injected
[18:12] <Kilos> ah
[18:13] <Kilos> fuel injection very finicky with filters
[18:14] <Kilos> there should even be one in the fuel tank
[18:15] <Kilos> or just below
[18:19] <Kilos> superfly what kinda car?
[18:19] <superfly> VW Jetta 3, '93 model
[18:20] <Kilos> if its same as jetta 2 then there is an eletrical fuel pump by the fuel tank and a filter right by it
[18:21] <Kilos> that filter is critical
[18:21] <Kilos> if blocked the pump packs up
[18:22] <Kilos> when you turn the key on you should hear it hum for a few secs
[18:22] <Kilos> that pump is very expensive
[18:22] <Kilos> was R1500 last one i bought
[18:27] <Kilos> the filter is large, not an inline filter
[18:37] <superfly> Kilos: it hums
[18:37] <Kilos> now
[18:38] <Kilos> if you had paid attention everytime it hummed since you got the car then you learn that a change in the hum means filter getting blocked
[18:38] <Kilos> not something many peeps know that arent mechanics
[18:39] <Kilos> but lets try work something out
[18:39] <Kilos> did it first start miss firing
[18:39] <Kilos> or just dead one morning
[18:43] <superfly> Kilos: it still hums the same way
[18:44] <superfly> Kilos: it was having starting issues for a few weeks before dying while running one morning, and not starting again
[18:45] <Kilos> google changing vw jetta 3 93 model fuel filter
[18:46] <Kilos> ai!
[18:46] <Kilos> Maaz google changing vw jetta 3 93 model fuel filter
[18:46] <Maaz> Kilos: "DIY: how to replace fuel filter on mk3 Vw jetta / golf - YouTube" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6p71xYdHbs :: "VW A3: Fuel Filter Removing / Checking / Replacing - YouTube" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QomHEkv7CaQ :: "How to Change a Fuel Filter : How to Remove Car Parts to Reach ..." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0Sir1VYqTE :: "DIY: MK4 Jetta/Golf
[18:46] <Maaz> fuel filter replacment - YouTube" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqTDo_XBCcs :: "How to…
[18:47] <Kilos> one of those can most likely explain better than i can from memory superfly 
[18:48] <Kilos> pity you dont know a vw mechanic there, the guys that work on them daily can often tell just by listening
[18:48] <superfly> I've been Youtubing :-)
[18:48] <Kilos> hehe
[18:49] <Kilos> and dont bother cleaning spark plugs, change them at least yearly
[19:00] <Kilos> i hate it when everything is on youtube but for uncapped peeps i spose its great
[19:00] <Kilos> easier than trying to explain with words
[19:02] <Kilos> inetpro you can greet you know
[19:02] <Kilos> Maaz seen inetpro 
[19:02] <Maaz> Kilos: inetpro was last seen 1 day, 2 hours and 39 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2016-04-21 10:02:16 PDT], and has been online on freenode since 2016-04-17 01:09:20 PDT
[19:03] <Kilos> sjoe
[19:04] <inetpro> no
[19:04] <inetpro> impossible
[19:05] <Kilos> no what
[19:05] <inetpro> i was been here
[19:05] <inetpro> good morning Kilos
[19:06] <Kilos> hello inetpro wb
[19:07] <inetpro> the body says it is time to go sleep but my mind tells me it is too early
[19:08] <Kilos> lol
[19:10] <Kilos> what have you been doing inetpro that the body is moeg
[19:10] <Kilos> or are you getting old
[19:11] <inetpro> Kilos: the sun has gone down in the west
[19:11] <Kilos> lol
[19:12] <inetpro> it's only a metter of time until it shows up again in the east
[19:12] <inetpro> matter*
[19:12] <Kilos> yeah
[19:13] <Kilos> hi NaSb 
[19:14] <NaSb> Hello Kilos
[19:14] <NaSb> It's u'r world !
[19:14] <Kilos> welcome to ubuntu-za
[19:14] <Kilos> this is my home channel yes
[19:14] <Kilos> all my mentors live here
[19:15] <Kilos> i think its bed time for me
[19:15] <Kilos> night all, sleep tight
[19:16] <NaSb> Me also
[19:16] <NaSb> but 33 users are alive o.O !
[19:16] <Kilos> most of them work late hours to keep up with all the work
[19:17] <Kilos> inetpro sleep tight old man
[19:17] <inetpro> good night oom Kilos
[19:17] <Kilos> haha
[19:17] <inetpro> oops
[19:18] <Kilos> altzheimers r\creeping in