[00:00] <squinty> feneco,  after you opened nautilus (files) did you right click on the icon on the laucher to make it stick?
[00:00] <Madhumper69> i have been upgrading 16.04 since alpha stages to beta 1 then 2 then the final stages... my question is what kernel version is latests for the final release?
[00:00] <ubuntu174> I can't seem to get ubuntu to boot from a USB. I put the iso on via unetbootin, but it just keeps trying to boot into windows again. Am I missing something? When booting I push f12 a bunch and say to boot via usb hdd
[00:00] <feneco> squinty: it disappears even with the app opened
[00:01] <feneco> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/m8HhAkuc/
[00:02] <lucas-arg> just came to say, after 30 minutes or 45 minutes of a clean installation, that this system is incredible... thanks ubuntu!!!
[00:02] <citizenruin> lucas-arg: what flavor did you go with
[00:02] <idungoofed> I was in the middle of upgrading from 15.04 to 16 and mistakenly hit the power button mid configuration. I restarted in recovery mode to hopefully finish the install but a few packages seem... to be goofed up. dpkg --configure -a didn't help, apt, cups and a few other packages were hanging during setup (just no output or change)
[00:02] <squinty> feneco,  maybe try installing nautilus again to see if it will stick    sudo apt install --reinstall nautilus
[00:02] <lucas-arg> citizenruin: ubuntu unity
[00:03] <idungoofed> 15.10 -> 16.04 sorry
[00:03] <Madhumper69> I have been upgrading 16.04 since alpha stages to beta 1 then 2 then the final stages... my question is what kernel version is latests for the final release?
[00:04] <AlexQ1> Madhumper69: You can just check the metapackage
[00:04] <feneco> squinty: what's the difference between using apt and apt-get?
[00:04] <ubuntu174> I'm having trouble getting ubuntu to install. Mostly because I don't want to wipe out windows, since most of my games demand windows, and some won't run in a VM.
[00:04] <citizenruin> madhumper69 as of lastweek when i updated mine i beleive it is 4.4.0-18-generic
[00:04] <AlexQ1> linux-generic
[00:04] <idungoofed> ubuntu174: they now have ubuntu in windows
[00:04] <Madhumper69> Linux server-OptiPlex-390 4.4.6-040406-generic #201603161231 SMP Wed Mar 16 16:33:41 UTC 2016 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[00:05] <Madhumper69> i dont know how i got this kernel version of 4.4.6??
[00:05] <idungoofed> ubuntu174: https://blogs.windows.com/buildingapps/2016/03/30/run-bash-on-ubuntu-on-windows/
[00:05] <AlexQ1> You can just type "linux-generic ubuntu" in your favorite web search engine and that should find you a package page on Ubuntus website
[00:05] <nownot> reisio : do you have advice on my fsck is in use question? the drive was / is unmounted
[00:05] <ubuntu174> idungoofed: I'll check that out. Thanks
[00:06] <Madhumper69> thanks alex
[00:06] <reisio> nownot: what makes you think it's unmounted?
[00:07] <nownot> reisio : i ran umount command and the folder it was mounted to is now empty
[00:08] <Madhumper69> i have no idea how i ended up with kernel 4.4.6 on ubuntu 16.04 LTS... i am being told 4.4.0 is latests , Is this a problem?
[00:08] <citizenruin> as far as ubuntu cares would it be wise for me to wipe and reinstall just to add two partitions one for / and one for swap the rest for /home?
[00:08] <pmp6nl> I want to do a fresh install for 16.04 rather than an upgrade. If I copy the .ssh folder to the new install will I be able to log into my web server the same way I can now via ssh? Thanks
[00:08] <citizenruin> madhumper69 can you check the md5 and see what results you get in google?
[00:08] <squinty> feneco,  you can also try opening the Dash -> files -> and then click and hold on it's icon and then drag/drop in on the laucher
[00:09] <AlexQ1> Madhumper69: Well, you can always downgrade if you want, can't you?
[00:09] <coolspot_> hi
[00:09] <dax> pmp6nl: yes
[00:09] <squinty> feneco,  will leave the apt/apt-get differences to someone else :P
[00:09] <reisio> nownot: try fsck again, then
[00:09] <xHaVoK87> Is Ubuntu 16.04 having issues at all with like installs on systems?
[00:09] <pmp6nl> dax thanks
[00:10] <Guy1524_> where can I find the X Server Log
[00:10] <Madhumper69> i might have upgrade to this kernel manually thinking it was latests as the number was higher then 4.4.0 however all works fine... im not sure if fixing it to 4.4.0 is wroth it?
[00:10] <nownot> reisio : sigh ......
[00:10] <Apachez> great... uck is borked and live-magic is gone... any other hints regardng remastering ubuntu iso to properly get languagepacks?
[00:10] <Madhumper69> or what is ahppening because of this... im 3months new to ubuntu and have come along way in understanding alot of thinhgs but the kernel is one thing that im not to familiar with
[00:11] <reisio> nownot: ?
[00:11] <Guy1524_> guys, there is something in my x server log I found in failsafe mode and now I need to find it so I can share it with you
[00:12] <nownot> reisio : i did the unmount before I ran fsck like I said above
[00:12] <reisio> nownot: let's see your 'mount' output
[00:12] <feneco> squinty: no worries, thanks
[00:13] <feneco> when i lock it to launcher, it works, but if i just open nautilus without being locked to launcher, the icon disappears, even with nautilus opened
[00:13] <nownot> reisio : https://gist.github.com/anonymous/808b9dafab1ffe841c988b9bba023133
[00:13] <feneco> ~upgrade feelings~
[00:13] <deadmund> My vlc will not play .wmv files.  I have ubuntu-restricted-extras and libavcodec-extra installed.  What am I doing wrong?
[00:14] <Guy1524_> found it
[00:14] <joeberardis> hello?
[00:14] <reisio> deadmund: what's ffmpeg -i foo.wmv 2>&1 | egrep -i 'video:|audio:' say?
[00:14] <reisio> joeberardis: bye
[00:14] <deadmund> reisio: I don't have ffmpeg and the package that provides it is a different name?  What do I need to install to get ffmpeg? (this is 14.04)
[00:14] <reisio> nownot: /dev/sda2 on / type ext4 (rw,relatime,errors=remount-ro,data=ordered)
[00:15] <reisio> deadmund: whatever provides it will suffice
[00:15] <nownot> reisio : that devices isn't part of the raid, thats my boot drive
[00:15] <Gallomimia> okay so i've been trying to rebuild my initrd and finally got frustrated and uncompressed it. i've found that it has failed to include my crypttab or anything to decrypt my main drive. so the boot fails. can anyone tell me how to have that included?
[00:15] <deadmund> reisio: apt-file search ffmpeg says so much stuff.  Do you know the package name by chance?
[00:15] <moat_joe> I can't seem to deploy an instance using ami: ami-840910ee
[00:15] <moat_joe> From here: https://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/query/xenial/server/released.current.txt
[00:16] <reisio> deadmund: libav perhaps
[00:16] <ratrace> deadmund: apt-cache search --names-only ...
[00:16] <reisio> deadmund: apt-file search ffmpeg | egrep -i '^libav|^ffmpeg'
[00:16] <deadmund> reisio: ed@livingroom:~$ apt-file search /usr/bin/ffmpeg
[00:16] <deadmund> ffmpeg2theora: /usr/bin/ffmpeg2theora
[00:16] <deadmund> ffmpegthumbnailer: /usr/bin/ffmpegthumbnailer
[00:16] <deadmund> ratrace: ed@livingroom:~$ ^^
[00:16] <deadmund> that's all it gives, nothing supplies ffmpeg on 14.04?
[00:16] <ratrace> oh you're doing a file search... ignore what I said :)
[00:17] <deadmund> WTF?
[00:17] <reisio> deadmund: apt-file search ffmpeg | egrep -i '^libav|^ffmpeg'
[00:17] <ratrace> !info ffmpeg
[00:17] <Bashing-om> deadmund: ffmeg is not in the 14.04's repo, its "avconv" now ->  avconv is in libavtools. make sure libavcodec-extra-54 is installed .
[00:18] <reisio> well, it's 'avconv' _then_ :p
[00:18] <ratrace> ugh avconv....
[00:18] <deadmund> reisio: returns nothing
[00:18] <deadmund> I guess it's avconv   ok hang on
[00:18] <deadmund> libav-tools and libavcodec-extra-54 are already installed
[00:19] <reisio> try avconv, then
[00:19] <reisio> deadmund: what's avconv -i foo.wmv 2>&1 | egrep -i 'video:|audio:' say?
[00:19] <torpet> When I click "restart" in Ubuntu after installation, I see a blackscreen, but the PC never reboots.
[00:19] <torpet> Do I run the risk of booting an unclean filesystem when I forcefully shutdown the pc?
[00:20] <deadmund> reisio: it says: Stream #0.0: Video: wmv3 (Main), yuv420p, 720x480, 8000 kb/s, PAR 6:5 DAR 9:5, 29.97 fps, 29.97 tbr, 1k tbn
[00:20] <reisio> torpet: technically yes, realistically no
[00:20] <deadmund> definitely a file
[00:20] <Guy1524_> I found this in syslog: no nvidia graphics adapter probed
[00:20] <flask-> reisio: well, my kernel would not boot.
[00:20] <reisio> torpet: if it went to reboot, the installation was done
[00:21] <reisio> torpet: it's supposed to display a screen saying to remove the install media and press enter
[00:21] <ubuntu045> Is there a wubi equivalent for the 16.04? My computer simply won't let me boot from a USB and keeps trying to boot my old OS.
[00:21] <reisio> torpet: you might try removing the install media and pressing enter, to see if it's working except for displaying properly
[00:21] <torpet> Oh OK
[00:21] <flask-> reisio: i have one of those encrypted SSD drives and the new kernel would not prompt me to decrypt it
[00:21] <reisio> otherwise I wouldn't particularly worry about it, and just reboot
[00:21] <torpet> yeah'll i'll try that
[00:21] <Guy1524_> the nvidia probe routine was not called for 1 device(s)
[00:21] <Guy1524_> is that the problem?
[00:22] <Guy1524_> ill try blacklisting nouveau
[00:22] <Bashing-om> !wubi | ubuntu045
[00:22] <ubuntu045> !install
[00:24] <nownot> reisio : looking at lsof I see this http://imgur.com/KEXelLx
[00:24] <nownot> so theres a process using the drive :/
[00:24] <n1md4> pff upgrading has been painful.  the software-updater broken half way though.  the usb installer worked, but the ui session was broken - I didn't realise this was the gpu propri. driver playing up at the time!  install again, then remeber, etc, etc, weak lemon drink, etc... working now!
[00:25] <n1md4> unity 8 and mir don't want to play with propri. drivers though.
[00:27] <Guy1524_> damn it, I give up, I tried blacklisting nouveau but that did not work, whenever I log in after the gnome thing finishes turning it puts me into tty1, the screen starts flashing every few seconds, and I can't type
[00:27] <Guy1524_> does anyone have any idea what is going on?
[00:28] <Guy1524_> all this could have been avoided if nvidia-364.16 was on 16.04
[00:28] <Guy1524_> who is in control of that anyway, nvidia or canonical
[00:28] <torpet> reisio: the installer says... installation is complete. you need to restart the computer in order to use the new installation.
[00:28] <reisio> torpet: so do that
[00:29] <torpet> reisio: I did that twice and I keep seeing a black screen
[00:29] <torpet> the ubuntu live system still running
[00:29] <reisio> torpet: take the install media out, reboot
[00:29] <Guy1524_> so nobody has a clue?  well shit, I guess Ill have to stop developing my game engine until either nvidia or canonical get their stuff together ): ): ):
[00:30] <reisio> I can't speak for anyone else, but I stopped trying to help you after you ignored my second question
[00:30] <reisio> can't help without answered questions
[00:30] <torpet> reisio: even though the installer doesn't say to take install media out?
[00:30] <Gallomimia> anyway phunyguy i'm pretty sure cryptsetup is installed properly. anything i can do to check besides cryptsetup being in $PATH
[00:31] <reisio> torpet: just take it out before the system fully reboots, before the bootsplash
[00:31] <Term1nal> ok, so I've installed 16.04, yay, now........ glaring issue.
[00:31] <Bashing-om> Guy1524_: There are those ( many) working real real hard on that issue : https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-desktop/2015-August/004693.html
[00:31] <Term1nal> How do I turn off mouse acceleration?
[00:31] <Term1nal> it's ridiculous
[00:31] <reisio> Term1nal: xset m... somethin'
[00:31] <mattfly_> hey
[00:32] <mattfly_> hardcore help needed here
[00:32] <Term1nal> like, ubuntu seems to have a fetish with removing options that were available in previous versions.
[00:32] <reisio> Term1nal: xset m default
[00:32] <Guy1524_> Bashing-om: yes, 364.16 worked great on 15.10, but the packages didn't carry over to 16.04
[00:32] <reisio> Term1nal: that's GNOME, really, IME :p
[00:32] <torpet> reisio: oh yeah of course, but the ubuntu installer hangs when i press reboot
[00:32] <reisio> torpet: press reboot longer
[00:32] <Guy1524_> I wish it was possible to use 15.10 packages w/ 16.04.  But I know nothing about the kernel or dpkg so thats probably unrealistic
[00:32] <Bashing-om> Guy1524_: There is the trusted PPA, that is the reference in the above link .
[00:32] <Term1nal> reisio: that did the trick thanks
[00:32] <reisio> manufacturers decided long ago that people are stupid, all people, even smart people
[00:32] <torpet> reisio: well that's forcefully shutting down my computer.
[00:33] <reisio> and took away our useful powe switches
[00:33] <Term1nal> reisio: will that persist?
[00:33] <reisio> torpet: yup
[00:33] <reisio> Term1nal: probably not
[00:33] <Term1nal> reisio: shit >.<
[00:33] <de-facto> where are the gnome-shell extensions installed on ubuntu? the old location ~/.local/share/gnome-shell/extensions seems obsolete
[00:33] <mattfly_> i'm on ubuntu server 14.04 with text only using alsa for sound. I have installed the Equalizer alsa plugin, is there any filter like that to use with alsamixer?
[00:33] <Term1nal> throwing it in startup
[00:33] <n1md4> Guy1524_: what were you saying about nvidia-361?
[00:33] <reisio> Term1nal: that'd be the simple forget-about-it fix :p
[00:33] <reisio> Term1nal: it's apparently in mouse prefs, in control panel thingy
[00:33] <Term1nal> the fact that mouse acceleration is not an option in the settings menu seems to me to be another of the glaring oversights Ubuntu seems to be so fond of making.
[00:33] <Guy1524_> nvidia 361 is terrible, my games crash and it has no vulkan support and it is slower than other ones
[00:34] <Term1nal> reisio: it isn't
[00:34] <Guy1524_> it is the newest one that is avaible on 16.04
[00:34] <Gallomimia> haven't had that great of an experience either since i updated to 361
[00:34] <reisio> Term1nal: gnome-mouse-properties?
[00:34] <Jordan_U> Term1nal: Please stick to your support question and avoid the ranting and opinions.
[00:34] <torpet> reisio: are the filesystems unmounted at that stage of the installation?
[00:34] <reisio> Term1nal: gpointing-device-settings?
[00:34] <Guy1524_> however 364 is on 15.10 and works amazingly
[00:34] <reisio> torpet: couldn't tell you
[00:34] <Bashing-om> Guy1524_: see: https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa .
[00:34] <Gallomimia> so, now that i am not asking for help in offtopic, can anyone in here suggest a way to fix my initrd? it seems to fail at installing cryptsetup and crypttab
[00:35] <reisio> torpet: most FSes can survive a lame dismount
[00:35] <Term1nal> reisio: CNF on both of those
[00:35] <reisio> xfs not so much among them
[00:35] <Guy1524_> Bashing-om: been there done that
[00:35] <reisio> and reiserfs can barely survive being used at all
[00:35] <n1md4> Guy1524_: Ah.  I thought it was only 361 on 15.10 - but I'll take your word for it.
[00:35] <Guy1524_> Bashing-om: it still doesn't have nvidia-364 for 16.04
[00:35] <reisio> Term1nal: weird; got me
[00:35] <reisio> Term1nal: maybe it's exposed by some ridiculous foo-tweak-tool
[00:36] <Bashing-om> Guy1524_: "  nvidia-graphics-drivers-364364.15-0ubuntu1~gpu16.04.3 " .
[00:36] <Guy1524_> what is that?
[00:36] <Bashing-om> Guy1524_: 364 version for 16.04 .
[00:37] <Guy1524_> brb moving to my computer
[00:37] <Guy1524> ok back, did I miss anything
[00:37] <gsilvapt> Hello all. Can anybody install Google Chrome on Ubuntu 16.04?
[00:37] <Guy1524> gsilvapt: I have it installed on from before I upgraded and it works
[00:38] <Guy1524> anyway, could I have that link again?
[00:38] <gsilvapt> Right. I just made a clean installation and I am having issues installing Chrome
[00:38] <Guy1524> nvm found it
[00:38] <Bashing-om> Guy1524: https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa .
[00:38] <Guy1524> thanks
[00:39] <squinty> gsilvapt,  did it earlier today with xubuntu 16.04 and no problems installing in unity 16.04 either (installed since first beta)
[00:39] <ubuntu045> the install method seems to assume I have one HD and one partition. I can't seem to make it install on a split partition.
[00:39] <gsilvapt> Right, thanks. Than it is something wrong in my end. Will do more tests soon
[00:39] <Guy1524> ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa   is what I should add right
[00:39] <squinty> gsilvapt,  download the chrome deb from chrome site and then use gdebi to install
[00:39] <Bashing-om> Guy1524: Just covering bases, you know to purge ALL prior driver install attempts .. and add the PPA ??
[00:40] <Euclid> helo all I need help
[00:40] <Gallomimia> hi euclid
[00:40] <Guy1524> yes, I have been using sudo apt-get purge nvidia*
[00:40] <Gallomimia> !ask | euclid
[00:40] <gsilvapt> I did that. When it opens in the software center (snappy), and when I click install, it does nothing
[00:40] <Guy1524> Bashing-om: is it safe to purge drivers when not in recovery mode?
[00:40] <Gallomimia> i'm also in need of help. i can't seem to make update-initramfs include my cryptsetup
[00:41] <Bashing-om> Guy1524: Have you purged the Nvidia driver at this time ... then I relate how to install 364 from the PPA .
[00:41] <Guy1524> Bashing-om: I am in gnome right now, will it crash if I purge while running a session
[00:41] <n1md4> Why do you have to purge any way?
[00:41] <squinty> gsilvapt,  as said  use gdebi    sudo apt install gdebi    then after, right click on file name -> open with gdebi  rather than software center
[00:41] <Guy1524> so the modules dont conflict
[00:42] <Bashing-om> Guy1524: Nope .. what is in memory stays in memory ; til a reboot .
[00:42] <Euclid> I recently purchased an MSI laptop, and am trying to install ubuntu 16.04 on it. I have already deleted the nvidia drivers through windows 10 (gross) and have unselected several options in the bios. Has anyone else been able to get it to work on their machine yet?
[00:42] <Guy1524> Bashing-om: ok cool
[00:42] <gsilvapt> okay, will try. Thanks, squinty
[00:42] <Guy1524> purging now
[00:42] <squinty> gsilvapt, yw
[00:42] <joeberardis_> nvidia issues with ubuntu gnome anyone?
[00:43] <joeberardis_> nomodeset in /etc/default/grub doesnt fix the issue
[00:43] <chrobert> has anyone with 16.04 been able to get network-manager-vpnc installed and show up in network connections when adding a vpn?
[00:43] <Guy1524> Bashing-om: ok, purged nvidia* and added the ppa
[00:43] <chrobert> worked so far from 14.04 up but here i installed network-manager-vpnc and it wont show up
[00:44] <Euclid> what is the nomodeset command, every time I try and use it it tells me it isn't found
[00:44] <Guy1524> none of the packages show up
[00:44] <Guy1524> I have done sudo apt-get update
[00:44] <joeberardis_> no mode set is an attribute in the grub file located in /etc/default
[00:44] <Guy1524> oh nvm there is a custom way to install the ppa
[00:44] <Bashing-om> joeberardis_: "nomodeset" is a temporary thing to disable KMS. then install the appriopriate driver .
[00:45] <Euclid> I press E in the grub boot menu, and then add the boot commands there, is that the same place?
[00:45] <chrobert> only vpn option that shows up is pptp
[00:45] <joeberardis_> Bashing-om: even if i do update-grub?
[00:46] <Bashing-om> Guy1524: ' sudo add-apt-repository ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa ; sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get install nvidia-364 nvidia-prime ; sudo reboot ' .
[00:46] <sam_yan> Does ubuntu implement offline update by systemd?
[00:46] <squinty> Euclid, Press the e key on getting the GRUB bootloader. Using arrow keys navigate to and delete quiet and splash and type the word nomodeset in their place. Press Ctrl and X at the same time to continue booting
[00:47] <chrobert> would it be fine to install the network-manager-vpnc pkg from 15.10?
[00:47] <Guy1524> Bashing-om: ok, so I added the lines to /etc/apt/sources.list but when I do sudo apt-get update, it says this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15974768/
[00:47] <Guest85754> hi
[00:47] <Guy1524> Bashing-om: ok, Ill remove those lines
[00:47] <workisfun> Hi guys I'm on Ubuntu 14.04 but `sudo update-manager -d` isn't bringing up the new 16.04 release
[00:48] <workisfun> Is there something wrong with my computer?
[00:48] <Bashing-om> joeberardis_: 'update-grub' will have no effect in nullifimg defeating (K)ernel (M)ode (S)etting. when the parameter is set from /etc/default/grub .
[00:48] <Guy1524> oh wow thats working
[00:48] <Guy1524> I see you tied in a sudo reboot
[00:48] <Guy1524> hopefully this works lol
[00:49] <Guy1524> thanks SO much
[00:49] <braderhart> Anyone else having issues with 16.04 installing deb packages using the Software Center?
[00:49] <Guy1524> braderhart: software or ubuntu software center
[00:49] <n1md4> Guy1524: I have the 364 driver now ... don't know if this can be any way related, but my wifi now does not work!
[00:49] <squinty> workisfun,  it's do-upgrade-release -d   iirc
[00:49] <chrobert> nope that didnt do it either :(
[00:49] <chrobert> i guess network manager is broke in 16.04
[00:50] <joeberardis_> Bashing-om: So I will need to edit it when I boot up in the 'e' menu with grub?
[00:50] <chrobert> or not seeing the vpnc plugin
[00:50] <braderhart> Guy1524: Ubuntu Software
[00:50] <braderhart> I tried install Chrome using the deb from their site, but I can't get any deb package to install using the default handler
[00:51] <Bashing-om> workisfun: What returns ' grep Prompt= /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades ' ?
[00:51] <workisfun> squinty:`sudo do-upgrade-release -d`? I see a `do-release-upgrade` is that the same thing?
[00:51] <chrobert> braderhart, what about sudo dpkg -i <pkg>
[00:51] <boyblunder_> when I install network-manager-openconnect-gnome, it doesn't show up in network manager -- yet I am able to VPN successfully via command line (openconnect command)
[00:51] <boyblunder_> this is on 16.04
[00:51] <chrobert> boyblunder_, im having same issue
[00:51] <Bashing-om> joeberardis_: Restate your issue for me .. and we take it from the top .
[00:51] <braderhart> chrobert: Yes that works, however it isn't ideal as dpkg doesn't handle dependencies
[00:51] <chrobert> but with vpnc
[00:52] <squinty> workisfun,  sorry brain fart on my end   yes use yours
[00:52] <chrobert> vpnc from cli works
[00:52] <chrobert> but it will not show up in network manager gui
[00:52] <chrobert> braderhart, true but its a fall back
[00:52] <boyblunder_> chrobert, vpnc works for me! how strange
[00:52] <squinty> boyblunder_,  download chrome deb from chrome site ->   sudo apt install gdebi    then after, right click on file name -> open with gdebi  rather than software cente
[00:52] <workisfun> Bashing-om:it's loading (?), I'm going to try running do-release-upgrade -d in the mean time
[00:52] <chrobert> boyblunder_, even tried network-manager-vpnc from 15.10 it wont see it in the gui
[00:52] <n1md4> boyblunder_: have you install network-manager-openconnect and network-manager-openconnect-gnome ?
[00:53] <braderhart> chrobert: Yes, but I want to see if others are having the same issue as it is not a positive user experience when default apps aren't working
[00:53] <boyblunder_> n1md4, yes
[00:53] <Guy1524_> thank you SOOOO much, that worked!!!!
[00:53] <boyblunder_> squinty, i'm not having issues with chrome...i'm having openconnect not showing up in network-manager issues
[00:53] <n1md4> hmm - that's all, just I had the same problem with openvpn
[00:53] <Bashing-om> workisfun: That is the correct command if the above returns " Prompt=lts " .
[00:53] <workisfun> squinty:it returns: checking for a new ubuntu release \n No new release found
[00:53] <chrobert> boyblunder_, how did you get it to work? did you just install network-manager-vpnc?
[00:53] <braderhart> squinty: I think you meant that for me
[00:53] <boyblunder_> chrobert, i installed network-manager-vpnc-gnome
[00:54] <chrobert> trying now
[00:54] <Euclid> Is it possible to install the nvidia drivers now?
[00:54] <squinty> braderhart,  boyblunder_   yes sorry got ma b's mixed up :P
[00:54] <Bashing-om> Guy1524_: I never had a doubt ... See it pays to be patient, do it right the 1st time :) .
[00:54] <joeberardis> Bashing-om: Tried the 364 ppa method yuo described earlier and it also did not work
[00:54] <chrobert> boyblunder_, that worked thank you :)
[00:54] <chrobert> i was missing the -gnome pkg
[00:54] <chrobert> hmm in older versions it must have been a dep
[00:54] <boyblunder_> awesome
[00:54] <braderhart> Can someone else try installing the Chrome deb using the default file handler in Firefox and let me know if it works?
[00:55] <workisfun> Bashing-om:the command returns checking for a new ubuntu release \n No new release found
[00:55] <Euclid> why don't you just install it from the terminal?
[00:55] <Bashing-om> joeberardis: If you make the edit to /etc/default/grub .. than you must undo it for the driver to be recognized .. and 364 may not be the correct driver for your card .. we do not even know that you are running Nvidia graphics .
[00:56] <Guy1524_> Bashing-om: ok, I guess I learned my lession (:, thanks again and cya later
[00:56] <braderhart> Euclid: Chrome sets up the apt sources when you install the deb. Again, this is about making sure things work not trying to frustrate users and tell them to settle for broken
[00:56] <effectnet> hello in here
[00:56] <boyblunder_> these are the network-manager packages i have installed, https://paste.ubuntu.com/15974831/, and i can't get openconnect to show up in the gui -- can anyone help?
[00:56] <boyblunder_> 16.04
[00:56] <n1md4> weird. back to nvidia-361 and wifi returns
[00:56] <chrobert> braderhart, i had the same issue with chrome :( it would not install with the software store, it just hung. but i feel you i miss the old software store already, it seemed to work better installing 3rd party debs
[00:56] <n1md4> stoopid!
[00:56] <joeberardis> Bashing-om: nvidia Gt 750m
[00:57] <chrobert> it was a good user experience
[00:57] <effectnet> can i share some files to win7 machines?
[00:57] <braderhart> chrobert: Thanks for confirming. I'll submit a bug report :) I don't really miss the old store personally. I'm going to start building some snaps to help
[00:57] <n1md4> Bashing-om: how can i know which is the right driver for a gtx980m?
[00:58] <chrobert> cool :)
[00:58] <Euclid> Does any of the compiz stuff work on Ubuntu 16.04?
[00:59] <squinty> Euclid, it better as unity uses it
[00:59] <Bashing-om> joeberardis: Nvida recommends the 361 version driver ( not to say the 364 will not work ) . http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/101423/en-us . Show me in a pastenin ' dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia ' . Let's verify what is installed .
[01:00] <serianox> is zfs enabled by default on 16.04 ? how do I set it up?
[01:01] <joeberardis> dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia
[01:01] <joeberardis> ii  bbswitch-dkms                               0.8-3ubuntu1                                        amd64        Interface for toggling the power on NVIDIA Optimus video cards
[01:01] <joeberardis> ii  libcuda1-364                                364.15-0ubuntu1~gpu16.04.3                          amd64        NVIDIA CUDA runtime library
[01:01] <joeberardis> rc  nvidia-304-updates                          304.131-0ubuntu3                                    amd64        NVIDIA legacy binary driver - version 304.131
[01:01] <joeberardis> rc  nvidia-opencl-icd-304-updates               304.131-0ubuntu3                                    amd64        NVIDIA OpenCL ICD
[01:01] <joeberardis> rc  nvidia-opencl-icd-361                       361.42-0ubuntu2                                     amd64        NVIDIA OpenCL ICD
[01:01] <Bashing-om> n1md4: Yours is the 361 version also : http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/101423/en-us .
[01:01] <Euclid> am I going to have to type nomodeset every time I boot up?
[01:02] <ratrace> serianox: `man zpool` and `man zfs`
[01:02] <Bashing-om> !paste | joeberardis
[01:02] <ratrace> serianox: basically you have to create a zpool out of one or more devices, then create zfs datasets in that pool.
[01:02] <ratrace> it's quite unlike the usual filesystems.
[01:02] <squinty> !paste | joeberardis
[01:03] <joeberardis> Bashing-om: sorry this is my first time using xchat
[01:03] <squinty> Euclid,  you can use nomodset to boot into your desktop and then use addition drivers or troubleshooting to see why it won't boot without using nomodeset
[01:04] <Bashing-om> joeberardis: All a process of learning how to use our tools ... no biggy to do it once . .. You need guidance to use our pastebin site ?
[01:04] <B0g4r7> 16.04 release day huh.
[01:05] <Term1nal> is there still a supported way to do click-to-minimize on the launcher in 16.04?
[01:05] <B0g4r7> I'm running 16.04 beta 2.  Can I expect it to just seamlessly upgrade to the release version?
[01:05]  * squinty thinks "16.04 madhouse day!" :P
[01:05] <Bashing-om> !ltsupgrade | B0g4r7
[01:06] <joeberardis> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15974902/
[01:06] <Bashing-om> joeberardis: Look'n
[01:06] <B0g4r7> Thx for the note re LTS.
[01:07] <squinty> B0g4r7,  yes, full-upgrade from beta 2 is same as iso install
[01:07] <B0g4r7> I guess that's the normal Ubuntu release cycle then?  LTS rollout 3 months after the initial release?
[01:07] <Bashing-om> joeberardis: OK, 364 is installed ... now show in a pastebin ' cat /etc/default/grub ' .
[01:08] <Euclid> When I boot with nomodeset it just shows a blank ubuntu background, anyone else had this problem?
[01:08] <ratrace> B0g4r7: no, you're already on 16.04, just apt-get upgrade that thing and you're done
[01:08] <IrishSausage> hey
[01:08] <joeberardis> http://paste.ubuntu.com/15974938/
[01:08] <Bashing-om> B0g4r7: Not the one I wanted you to see .. to anser the question. Yes . just the noraml update/upgrade process will give you the current release .
[01:08] <squinty> B0g4r7,  that is the suggested advice upgrading from say 14.04 to 16.04.  in your case you are already using 16.04 which is a different situation
[01:09] <IrishSausage> im currently on unbuntu 6.06
[01:09] <IrishSausage> is 16.04 worth upgrading to
[01:09] <edisto> Anyone stuck in a login loop in 16.04?
[01:09] <torpet> what is my best bet on installing build-essential and dkms without internet connection?
[01:09] <joeberardis> Bashing-om: I reset to quiet splash and did update-grub as sudo
[01:09] <B0g4r7> Aight.  Now downloading 554MB of archives...
[01:10] <Bashing-om> joeberardis: Look'n ... and a reminder .. use my nick .. this is a busy busy channel .. I will miss your responses otherwise .
[01:10] <Xali> torpet: create your own bootable iso usb
[01:10] <squinty> edisto,  probably video driver related, try using nomodeset via the grub boot menu to see if you can access your desktop
[01:10] <torpet> Xali: how?
[01:10] <Xali> torpet: Ubuntu gives the option to make a custome usb. also check out custom usb maker in the software center
[01:11] <Bolt2strike> Anyone else having trouble with a casper-rw partition with a live 16.04 install?
[01:11] <squinty> edisto,  Press the e key on getting the GRUB bootloader. Using arrow keys navigate to and delete quiet and splash and type the word nomodeset in their place. Press Ctrl and X at the same time to continue booting
[01:11] <afb323c> Any recommendations for a linux laptop/ultrabook?
[01:11] <ratrace> Bashing-om: so it's impossible to upgrade from 14.04 to 16.04 with do-release-upgrade atm?
[01:11] <joeberardis> Bashing-om: My B, also, what does Look'n mean?
[01:11] <torpet> Xali: Well I just installed Ubuntu 16.04 and need those 2 packages for my wlan driver. is there no other way?
[01:11] <squinty> joeberardis,  he's looking over the pasted info you posted
[01:11] <edisto> squinty: thanks i'll brb =D
[01:11] <B0g4r7> torpet, install it on an identical system with internets, notice what packages it downloads, copy them out of /var/cache/apt/archives, and dpkg -i them on the machine without internets.
[01:12] <IrishSausage> anyone?????
[01:12] <Bashing-om> ratrace: At the moment IF you want .. got to doit via terminal with the -d switch .
[01:12] <Euclid> When I boot with nomodeset it just shows a blank ubuntu background, anyone else had this problem?
[01:12] <joeberardis> squinty: thanks!
[01:12] <afb323c> Any recommendations for a linux ultrabook?
[01:12] <ratrace> Bashing-om: I did, when 16.04 was in beta and it worked. Was asking about now that 16.04 is released (no longer the meaning behind -d flag).
[01:12] <IrishSausage> hello???
[01:13] <[Saint]> B0g4r7: kinda convoluted when you can almost certainly just get the .deb
[01:13] <Bashing-om> short / American slang for "looking" .. // and the grub file is fine .. what happens now when you reboot the system ?
[01:13] <[Saint]> s/kinda/absolutely/
[01:13] <B0g4r7> [Saint], sure, but this gets all the deps as well.
[01:13] <Bolt2strike> Anyone successfuly made a 16.04 live usb with a casper partition?
[01:13] <joeberardis> Bashing-om: should i enable one of my nvidia drivers then reboot?
[01:13] <Euclid> That's how I installed it.
[01:13] <B0g4r7> There is likely a more elegant solution out there.
[01:13] <Euclid> But I'm still having problems
[01:14] <Bashing-om> ratrace: The -d switch will be in effrct until the .1 release .
[01:14] <[Saint]> B0g4r7: which you could also pick up when you get the aforementioned .deb, as it lists deps and recomends.
[01:14] <ratrace> Bashing-om: I see, thanks.
[01:14] <effectnet> hi how do i get into samba?
[01:14] <Bashing-om> joeberardis: SLI graphics ?
[01:14] <B0g4r7> [Saint], there ya go then.  Elegance++
[01:14] <Xali> effectnet: there is a samba configuration file you can edit with the nano command
[01:14] <joeberardis> Bashing-om: Single card.
[01:15] <joeberardis> Bashing-om: sorry i should say that its an optimus setup
[01:16] <Bashing-om> joeberardis: enable whichever graphics set you want to use when the system re-boots back up .. it is the nvidia-prime tool that controls the graphics sets .
[01:16] <vamadir> ubuntu 16.04 can not connect to wifi
[01:16] <klystron__> will the Aquaris M10 Ubuntu Edition tablet which currently has 15.10 version be upgradable to 16.04?
[01:16] <datajunkie> qq, everytime I check for the 16.04 LTS it doesn't seem to be showing that it's available
[01:17] <effectnet> i dont get it, i have to share this computers d:
[01:17] <datajunkie> is the repo available yet or maybe a CDN caching issue?
[01:17] <joeberardis> Bashing-om:
[01:17] <Madhumper69> sudo nano /etc/samba/smb.conf
[01:17] <effectnet> k
[01:17] <B0g4r7> datajunkie, 16.04.1 LTS release is expected 21-Jul-2016.
[01:17] <joeberardis> Bashing-om: swithcing to 361 and going down for reboot will be back in a few minutes with results.
[01:17] <datajunkie> ah, so I need to upgrade via the ISO for now?
[01:18] <Bashing-om> datajunkie: Ehat release are you updating from .. and what returns ' grep Prompt= /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades ' ?
[01:18] <datajunkie> 14.04
[01:18] <Bashing-om> joeytwiddle: The 364 is what is installed .. and may work just fine .. no harm in trying .
[01:18] <datajunkie> Prompt=normal
[01:19] <Euclid> even when I select try ubuntu without installing it, it just shows the blank ubuntu wallpaper.... anyone have any ideas?
[01:19] <Bashing-om> datajunkie: Ya want that to be " Prompt=lts ' .
[01:19] <Kannibale> I have a strange problem: "upgraded" from fglrx-updates to amdgpu on a R9 285, removed nomodeset from grub, and one of my three monitors, the one connected to the second DVI-connected one, stays black, despite xrandr telling me its connected. can anyone help?
[01:19] <Euclid> When I boot with nomodeset it just shows a blank ubuntu background, anyone else had this problem? There are these weird flashing boxes, they flash really fast so I can't read what they say.
[01:20] <datajunkie> Bashing-om changed
[01:20] <datajunkie> yeah do-release-upgrade -c no new release found
[01:20] <datajunkie> for the LTS Bashing-om
[01:20] <Bashing-om> datajunkie: AND no proprietary graphics driver in use, and you have checked the other source PPAs ?? now ready to re;ease upgrade ?
[01:21] <datajunkie> oh son of a
[01:21] <datajunkie> ok that might be why
[01:21] <datajunkie> is there a way to turn that off via cli?
[01:22] <effectnet> i clicked on the volume in windows and typed in pw, and then i think smbd crashed?
[01:22] <Bashing-om> datajunkie: And when ready /// ' sudo do-release-upgrade -d ' .
[01:22] <Kannibale> *second dvi-port, I mean
[01:24] <klystron__> question: if you have any LTS Ubuntu version 12.04 or 14.04 then would the upgrade path to 16.4 be more easy then trying to upgrade from a non LTS version i.e. 13.04 or 15.04 to the new 16.04 LTS version?
[01:29] <datajunkie> Bashing-om that seems to have worked, it looks like the video driver was blocking it
[01:29] <braderhart> Is there a mailing list where we can submit high priority bugs that will affect most users?
[01:29] <datajunkie> thanks
[01:30] <Bashing-om> klystron__: A fresh clean install will be much nuch easier .
[01:30] <usr13> !bugs | braderhart
[01:31] <Bashing-om> joeberardis: And ?? we good ?
[01:31] <Euclid> what are the hotkeys to access the terminal from the desktop?
[01:31] <usr13> Ctrl-T I think
[01:31] <joeberardis> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15975101/
[01:31] <braderhart> usr13: Already did that but just surprised that there hasn't been any official response yet given how many users it affects
[01:32] <Bashing-om> joeberardis: look'n .
[01:33] <klystron__> what about the Ubuntu m10 tablet that comes with 15.10 would I be right in assuming that also would need a fresh install for 16.04?
[01:33] <usr13> braderhart: Well, I don't know, but would imagine that you may not be the first or only one to report it, (if it is, in fact, a bug).
[01:34] <Bashing-om> joeberardis: K; do not know yet .. how many Desktops do you have installed ? And what now returns ' dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia ' ?
[01:35] <usr13> braderhart: If it is, in fact, a bug, you are probably only one of a thousand that has reported it and I doubt that everyone will get a personal response.
[01:35] <Bashing-om> klystron__: release upgrade from 15.10 should go seemlessly .. no problem .
[01:35] <Euclid> FML I deleted the propriatary nvidia graphics drivers from windows before installing ubuntu, then overwrote windows, so now I can't see anything im such a loser....
[01:35] <joeberardis> Bashing-om: Only Ubuntu-Gnome desktop, http://paste.ubuntu.com/15975146/
[01:36] <usr13> Euclid: What does deleting propriatary nvidia graphics drivers from windows have to do with a ubuntu install?
[01:36] <braderhart> usr13: I realize that but on a release day when users can't install Chrome or other debs using the default file handler, that it would be a big priority to fix these types of issues.
[01:37] <usr13> braderhart: I'm sure it is.
[01:37] <Bashing-om> joeberardis: ii  nvidia-opencl-icd-361 installed .. let's look at what X log relates post ' pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log ' .
[01:38] <B0g4r7> And 30 minutes later the upgrade is done.
[01:40] <joeberardis> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15975180/
[01:40] <Euclid> usr13: I can't see any of the bars on the side or top of screen so I'm assuming it has something to do with that
[01:40] <Bashing-om> joeberardis: look'n at your http://paste.ubuntu.com/15975180/ . Will be a while .
[01:41] <Bashing-om> joeberardis: Huh ?? why booting " recovery nomodeset " ... that defeats any proprietary driver .
[01:42] <joeberardis> Bashing-om: I couldnt log into my system without recovery nomodeset.
[01:43] <joeberardis> Bashing-om: should i reboot without recovery, and proprietary driver turned off?
[01:44] <usr13> Euclid: Is your Ubuntu install in a VM with MS Windows as host?
[01:44] <goat{}sex> I DO NOT HAVE ASS-BURGERS SYNDROME!!!
[01:44] <edisto> I can't get into my os either without nodemodeset =\
[01:44] <edisto> tried updating my kernel to 4.5 but still can't get in
[01:44] <Bashing-om> joeberardis: K. let's boot the install to terminal . I want you to reboot to grub boot menu and instead of nomodeset boot with systemd.unit=multi-user.target .
[01:45] <joeberardis> Bashing-om: Where do I set systemd.unit=multi-user.target, not a full fledged power user
[01:47] <Euclid> usr13: no its not
[01:47] <Euclid> I am booting it from scratch and the bar at the top is not there....
[01:48] <B0g4r7> I guess I'm now on the release version.  VERSION="16.04 LTS (Xenial Xerus)"
[01:48] <Euclid> And I'm getting a flashing box that says ubuntu has experienced an error..
[01:49] <Euclid> should I try the acpi=off thing?
[01:49] <B0g4r7> Now maybe I can get the vmware kernel extensions to compile...
[01:49] <[Saint]> He ded.
[01:49] <joeberardis> Bashing-om: is it the exact same spot where quiet splash usually goes?
[01:50] <Bashing-om> joeberardis: Sorry, thought you knew .. at the grub boot menu 'e' key for edit mode -> boot options screen; arrow down to the line starting with linux and across to "quiet splash". remove quiet splash and all after and insert " systemd.unit=multi-user.target "- without the quotes - . key combo ctl+x to continue the boot process to TTY1 . then we see what results when we start the GUI from terminal .
[01:50] <joeberardis> Bashing-om: command to start gui from terminal is?
[01:51] <Bashing-om> joeberardis: ' systemctl isolate graphical.target ' .
[01:53] <joeberardis> Bashing-om: okay ive got it all written down, will be back with results in a few
[01:53] <Euclid> Now I'm just getting a flashing box that says network connections found... but its flashing and I can't click it
[01:53] <obesebatman> Waka paka
[01:54] <effectnet> hmm i cant see my samba share on my windows computer
[01:54] <obesebatman> Hi everyone.... I cant get the resolution of my screen to be 1920 x 1080 in ubuntu
[01:54] <sam_yan> is there anyone interested in offline update ?
[01:54] <citizenruin> should i use gparted to give me a new space for a first time install of arch or use a vm?
[01:54] <Jordan_U> Bashing-om: That does much more than just start the GUI, it also stops everything that is not a dependancy of graphical.target.
[01:55] <obesebatman> It was fine until yesterday
[01:55] <Bashing-om> Jordan_U: I have a LOT to learn .. just starting my adventure in systemd .
[01:55] <citizenruin> systemd
[01:55] <obesebatman> Now there is no option for 1920 x 1080.... Only 1024 x768
[01:56] <angel> hola
[01:56] <Bashing-om> Jordan_U: That do jog my ,emory .. seems we have to start networking (??) .
[01:56] <joeberardis> Bashing-om: Okay, so I did the systemd.unit when i was in grub config, then did systemctl command from earlier...
[01:57] <Bashing-om> joeberardis: Think I failed you to follow through .. what is the present situation ?
[01:59] <Guest98033> buenas noches
[02:01] <joeberardis> Bashing-om: nouveau driver is now in use, not sure what your commands from earlier where supposed to accomplish
[02:02] <braderhart> Can we get some more people to login and confirm this in Launchpad? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-software/+bug/1573206
[02:03] <Gallomimia> is it a security issue to publish one's crypttab with UUID?
[02:04] <Gallomimia> cause mine keeps spitting out an error during update-initramfs and i've checked and rechecked it 20 times now. i've no idea what i'm doing wrong
[02:05] <Jordan_U> Gallomimia: No. UUIDs are not secret.
[02:05] <raspberrypifan> so what is this around ubuntu now doing containers
[02:06] <Bashing-om> joeberardis: what now in the log file ' pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log ' . I had expected you to boot with the Nvidia driver . ( lot's I do not know about systemd) .
[02:07] <Euclid> Has anyone else been able to fix the problem of not seeing status or task bars?
[02:07] <Euclid> and flashing windows?
[02:08] <joeberardis> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15975397/
[02:08] <Bashing-om> joeberardis: reading .
[02:08] <Gallomimia> Jordan_U: i did a google search for this problem. there's a 9 year old bug regarding parsing of the crypttab file within initramfs-tools. i wonder if it's recurring
[02:10] <joeberardis> Bashing-om: if results are bad, I can try again with nvidia 361 driver
[02:10] <effectnet> where is the ubuntu software center?
[02:11] <Bashing-om> joeberardis: "  48.314] (EE) Failed to load module "nvidia" (module does not exist, 0)" still reading .. you booted up with the Intel .
[02:11] <omgwtf> I have a droplet running on Ubuntu 14.x, upgraded the kernel, now the ethernet interfaces aren't coming up on boot, also if I bring them up manually I have to statically set up the ip addresses
[02:11] <omgwtf> I basically fucked something up
[02:11] <omgwtf> :/
[02:11] <joeberardis> Bashing-om: nvidia-prime does not give option to switch from intel to nvidia or visa versa
[02:11] <Gallomimia> http://paste.ubuntu.com/15975415 can anyone see what could cause an error in this crypttab?
[02:13] <Loshki> effectnet: /usr/bin/software-center
[02:15] <effectnet> k thx
[02:17] <Bashing-om> joeberardis: Did you add the PPA to install the 364 version driver ? Your card calls for the 361 version, and it is available in 16.04's repo. How about we remove the PPA and install from our repo ?
[02:18] <Sachiru> Query: Running Ubuntu server 14.04, running "sudo do-release-upgrade" does not upgrade to 16.04, just telling me "no new release found"
[02:18] <Sachiru> What gives?
[02:18] <joeberardis> Bashing-om: will remove 364 ppa, then will install nvidia-361 from ubuntu ppa, will let you know when finished
[02:18] <torpet> if i plan on gaming on my installation, should i add the graphics-drivers ppa?
[02:18] <Gallomimia> what version torpet?
[02:19] <torpet> 364
[02:19] <torpet> oh, 16.04
[02:19] <Gallomimia> of ubuntu
[02:19] <Bashing-om> joeberardis: You are comfortable doing so ? Need to insire that the Nvidia driver(s) are fully purged .
[02:19] <Gallomimia> i'm hearing that version has the drivers in normal repos
[02:20] <Bashing-om> Sachiru: ' sudo do-release-upgrade -d ' .. the d is required .
[02:20] <Pedro72> Hey, I'm trying to restrict user's access to the internet for weekdays, can anyone help me?
[02:20] <joeberardis> Bashing-om: removed the graphicsdrivers ppa, not sure on how to perform "full" purge of nvidia
[02:20] <Sachiru> Ah, thanks.
[02:21] <Pedro72> They said me to use Cron and "sudo iptables -A OUTPUT -m owner --uid-owner user_you_want_to_block -j REJECT", but I'm new
[02:21] <Sachiru> Wait, isn't Ubuntu 16.04 stable?
[02:21] <Sachiru> And no longer in development?
[02:21] <Gallomimia> yes released today
[02:21] <Bashing-om> joeberardis:
[02:22] <Bashing-om> joeberardis: ' sudo apt remove nvidia-* ' should do that trick .
[02:22] <torpet> Gallomimia: 361 is the latest in ubuntu 16.04
[02:22] <Sachiru> Ah, found the answer: http://askubuntu.com/questions/125392/why-is-no-new-release-found-when-upgrading-from-a-lts-to-the-next
[02:23] <Bashing-om> Sachiru: still considered development till the .1 release .
[02:23] <Sachiru> "sudo do-release-upgrade" won't show upgrades until 16.04.1
[02:23] <joeberardis> Bashing-om: "zsh: no matches found: nvidia-*
[02:23] <joeberardis> "
[02:23] <batee> Hi did anyone try to install Oracle Virtualbox on 16.04 desktop 64bit edition? I was getting an error
[02:24] <guest-cxEZCG> hi, I could really use some help, I think my user profile is corrupted, I can no longer login to my user account, only guest
[02:24] <guest-cxEZCG> not sure what to do
[02:24] <Bashing-om> joeberardis: ' sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall ' we see if the sytem picks the 361 version to install .
[02:25] <raul1> hola
[02:25] <terratoma> Unity sure looks the same !
[02:26] <Bashing-om> guest-cxEZCG: what returns ' la -al .Xauthority ; ls -al .ICEauthority ' ? Maybe root only can access your desktop ?
[02:26] <joeberardis> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15975503/
[02:26] <joeberardis> Bashing-om: did'nt do anything...
[02:26] <guest-cxEZCG> wait, if i do that in my guest account will it address the problem in my real user account
[02:27] <Bashing-om> joeberardis: Oh .. a no response is just the system doing as told .. no sas, no back talk .. reboot and let's see the effect .
[02:28] <guest-cxEZCG> it gives this: "unable to change to root gid: Operation not permitted"
[02:28] <joeberardis> Bashing-om: haha didnt mean to backtalk, should i select an nvidia driver from the additional drivers page before rebooting?
[02:28] <Bashing-om> guest-cxEZCG: correct .. reboot to the login screen . key combo ctl+alt+F1 to gain a console .
[02:29] <guest-cxEZCG> ok, but then I will lose this chat
[02:29] <ubuntu898> if I'm going to install ubuntu, do I want to first set up a partition, or let ubuntu make it from empty space?
[02:30] <[Saint]> ubuntu898: do you intend to dual-boot windows?
[02:30] <liuyuhong> hi
[02:30] <[Saint]> if not, just let the installer wipe the disk and do its thing.
[02:30] <ubuntu898> I do intend to dual boot, ubuntu and windows. Yes
[02:30] <Bashing-om> joe .. no the driver should now be installed .. just a reboot to make it effective .. if all goes well now later you can change to the Nvidia driver .
[02:30] <liuyuhong> how to install sdk for mate?
[02:31] <joeberardis> Bashing-om: will sudo reboot now. Be back soon
[02:31] <ubuntu898> I was just trying to get it to install, but it was being a butt. enetbootin kept getting in the way. Because it was live booted off of enetbootin, it counted as having a cd mounted and kept freezing/crashing the install. I'm not sure if changing the partitions might help in any way
[02:32] <effectnet> my win7 puter can't see the samba share, hmmmm
[02:33] <ubuntu898> I'd use a live cd/usb, but my computer hates live USBs and won't do it, and I don't actually have any CDs to burn. So I'm stuck trying to figure out a weird workaround
[02:33] <guest-cxEZCG> Bashing-om, there is also the problem that when I do alt crt F1 to get to the terminal, it is just spitting out the letter  p continuously
[02:34] <torpet> really happy with 16.04 so far, but mouse acceleration is atrocious
[02:34] <squinty> ubuntu898,  it needs a dvd not cd    cd is too small
[02:35] <ubuntu898> To rephrase, I have no empty disks.
[02:35] <guest-cxEZCG> could really use some help here
[02:35] <liuyuhong> where is the dvd, I can't find it?
[02:35] <[Saint]> ubuntu898: what do you mean by "hates liveCDs"?
[02:36] <liuyuhong> no , I want only find it?
[02:36] <riv> Archlinux FTW !
[02:36] <ubuntu898> I said liveusbs. It won't let me boot. I tell it to boot and it's like "What's that? No idea. back to the HDD"
[02:36] <[Saint]> I've found a number of times I need to massage Ubuntu live images into cooperating, by running 'live' when it (seemingly) pauses with no obvious way of progressing forwards.
[02:37] <[Saint]> also - sorry, yes, autocomplete replaced liveUSB with LiveCD here.
[02:37] <[Saint]> sorry.
[02:37] <duckgoose> nope never
[02:37] <Bashing-om> guest-cxEZCG: Ouch ! .. can you boot a recovery kernel ?
[02:37] <ubuntu898> basically, my computer doens't support live usbs
[02:37] <guest-cxEZCG> how
[02:37] <liuyuhong> I see
[02:38] <[Saint]> ubuntu898: it either supports booting from USB or it doesn't, there's nothing more to it.
[02:38] <[Saint]> Are you saying it doesn't boot over USB?
[02:38] <Bashing-om> !recovery
[02:38] <Bashing-om> guest-cxEZCG: ^^ .
[02:39] <ubuntu898> And it doesn't. So I tried to use enetbootin and it makes something similar to a liveusb/cd, but then because it has something from my disk mounted, it won't actually install
[02:39] <ubuntu898> It's basically reading my C drive as a cd drive, and because it's mounted as a cd drive, it can't write the os to it.
[02:39] <[Saint]> you mean unetbootin?
[02:40] <ubuntu898> Yeah, unebootin
[02:40] <Kannibale> batee, I just upgraded virtualbox, install the extension pack (from the virtualbox site https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads ) and it worked fine. which error do you get?
[02:40] <[Saint]> Why are you...? Wait, what?
[02:40] <[Saint]> I thought you just said you couldn;t boot from USB?
[02:40] <liuyuhong> you can make boot use "dd commod"
[02:40] <Euclid> I'm gonna see if I can get 15.04 to work and just update it from there..... lol
[02:41] <ubuntu898> It can't. I set it up and told it to use the other option, to boot from the HD, not the usb in the program
[02:41] <Euclid> I got it to boot from USBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBB
[02:41] <squinty> ubuntu898,  unetbootin should just work fine   I did two installs with it today   xubuntu and ubuntu
[02:42] <ubuntu898> sqinty: then I must be doing something wrong.
[02:42] <[Saint]> I think there's some language issue here. I think you're conflating "MY PC can't boot from USB" with "booting from USB appears at this moment non-functional"
[02:43] <ubuntu898> I don't "think" so. It's like this http://i.stack.imgur.com/rid01.png
[02:43] <ubuntu898> http://i.stack.imgur.com/ZlfAy.png
[02:43] <Nicholas2> could someone please suggest a good cpu temp monitoring tool?
[02:44] <ubuntu898> That's how I set it up, and so it doesn't actually boot from the usb, it boots from the HD as though it were a usb.
[02:44] <squinty> ubuntu898,  you need to click on the triangle to set it to your usb stick
[02:44] <squinty> ubuntu898, Drive -> triangle -> select your stick
[02:45] <[Saint]> FWIW some unetbootin versions just flat out won't let you install to USB.
[02:45] <squinty> ubuntu898,  you also need to have that stick mounted before bringing up unetbootin
[02:45] <[Saint]> Need to hunt down a slightly older verion.
[02:45] <ubuntu898> You mean to scroll down from harddrive to usb? That's literally the first thing I tried. But then when I plugged it in and booted, I jammed f12, told it to boot from USB cd, USB HD, and bootable addin cards.
[02:45] <ubuntu898> all of which just went right back into booting windows
[02:46] <liuyuhong> you can use "dd"
[02:46] <liuyuhong> the form dd if=ubuntu mate of=/dev/sd...
[02:46] <liuyuhong> try it
[02:46] <[Saint]> unetbootin-494 is the one I use when I can't avoid it.
[02:46] <squinty> && sync
[02:47] <ubuntu898> I used 613
[02:47] <liuyuhong> you also can use universal-usb-installer in windows
[02:48] <ubuntu898> I guess I'll try that. I just wish ubuntu were less of a pain in the back end to install. :C
[02:48] <[Saint]> Its fine, when the hardware isn't plotting against you.
[02:49] <[Saint]> Or when you actually have $.20 worthof writeable optical disk lying around
[02:49] <squinty> ubuntu898,  613 is what I used today to install ubuntu and xubuntu   worked without any problems
[02:49] <[Saint]> though, frankly, optical media needs to die.
[02:50] <ubuntu898> optical media is great for a long shelf life.
[02:50] <[Saint]> Nope.
[02:50] <[Saint]> Optical media degrads horribly.
[02:50] <[Saint]> *degrades.
[02:50] <joeberardis> Bashing-om: so i was unable to get into a gui for the last 10 minutes, was able to get error message from systemctl isolate graphical.target tho, also had to purge nvidia-361 in recovery to return to gui environment
[02:50] <Nicholas2> my lm sensors is reporting wrong cpu temp
[02:50] <Nicholas2> please help
[02:50] <omgwtf> I somehow fucked up a kernel upgrade
[02:50] <ubuntu898> Maybe the video I saw was wrong. >.<
[02:50] <omgwtf> no snapshot available
[02:50] <[Saint]> CDs I bought in my childhood are now end-of-life and near useless.
[02:50] <omgwtf> :(
[02:50] <Nicholas2> is there any other cpu temp tool?
[02:50] <squinty> omgwtf, family channel
[02:51] <Nicholas2> anyone listening?
[02:51] <[Saint]> ubuntu898: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disc_rot
[02:51] <omgwtf> squinty, sorry..I guess
[02:51] <squinty> !language
[02:51] <ubuntu898> Then the video I saw was wrong/outdated
[02:51] <[Saint]> the former.
[02:51] <omgwtf> so I can't swear?
[02:51] <omgwtf> ..that sucks
[02:51] <squinty> no
[02:51] <Bashing-om> joeberardis: Something stinks .. maybe this is above my skill level .
[02:52] <omgwtf> I usually swear in real life
[02:52] <Nicholas2> squinty is there any good cpu temp monitoring tool?
[02:52] <edisto> how is it I can run ubuntu on both monitors from install cd... but I can't past the login screen when it's installed?
[02:52] <squinty> omgwtf,  time for a little maturity then right
[02:52] <Nicholas2> mine is reporting wrong temps squinty
[02:52] <joeberardis> Bashing-om: going to give you the error on paste bin if your still interested...
[02:52] <omgwtf> squinty, I am mature..nothing to do with swearing here and there
[02:53] <squinty> Nicholas2,  afaik, lm sensors is recommended. don't really know anything about it though
[02:53] <Bashing-om> joeberardis: I continue with high interest .
[02:54] <Nicholas2> squinty i have checked the temps in bios . there is atleast a difference of  20 c. u know the bios reading are most reliable
[02:54] <Nicholas2> in bios temps are like 40 c and in lmsensors they are +60c
[02:55] <squinty> omgwtf, I agree but there are applicable situations where one respects others who may not. a family channel is one such place.  always a good idea to check topic and restrictions before entering any channel
[02:55] <Gallomimia> Nicholas2: is it possible that your system is actually working hard while booted and not at all while in bios?
[02:55] <omgwtf> Right Right..
[02:56] <omgwtf> Now I need to reconfigure my vps..lesson learned the hard way
[02:56] <Nicholas2> Gallomimia no i have checked the temps in windows 7 too. they are under 40c just after the boot. both bios and windows 7 are reporting same temp
[02:56] <joeberardis> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15975707/
[02:57] <Nicholas2> only ubuntu is showing + 60c  temps
[02:57] <Bashing-om> joeberardis: look'n .
[02:57] <Gallomimia> hm. that's pretty odd Nicholas2. i use lm sensors also. seems accurate to me
[02:57] <Nicholas2> i have ran prime 95 for almost 2 hours and temps didn't cross 65 c at 100% load Gallomimia
[02:57] <Gallomimia> yeah something's goobered
[02:57] <Nicholas2> Gallomimia btw what temps do u get at idle ?
[02:57] <Gallomimia> there's a way to reconfigure the sensors
[02:57] <Gallomimia> 40s
[02:58] <Nicholas2> hmm
[02:58] <Gallomimia> depends where the machine is. on the floor in the basement, it can be below 20
[02:58] <Nicholas2> on windows 7 mine is 45 c on idle and on ubuntu its 62 c LOL
[02:58] <Gallomimia> takes a lot of serious workload to make it cross 65
[02:58] <Nicholas2> exactly
[02:58] <Gallomimia> yep. maybe it's config'd badly. there's a script to make it detect them all
[02:58] <Nicholas2> i am sure its reading wrong info
[02:59] <Gallomimia> find man page for it. i think you can readjust it
[02:59] <Nicholas2> even prime 95 can't make it reach above 65c after running it more than 2 hours
[03:00] <edisto> welp guess i won't be using ubuntu for a while
[03:00] <Gallomimia> yeah. having same thing edisto. my system won't boot
[03:00] <Gallomimia> can't make it build the bloody initramfs with crypt
[03:00] <edisto> yeah it's only been a day and there are no solutions posted anywhere
[03:01] <Gallomimia> the last time i installed a ubuntu version on release day, i was also muckered. not doing it again
[03:01] <Bashing-om> joeberardis: I do not know much about systemctl ( systemd) .. but I do know that ypur system is hybrid graphics, and as such a proper Nvidia driver must be installed and as well come menas to control the 2 graphic sets .
[03:02] <Nicholas2> got disconnected
[03:03] <Gallomimia> Nicholas2: nothing was said on your issue
[03:03] <azizLIGHT> if i have a ppa, how do i use a different branch of it
[03:03] <Nicholas2> i got disconnected
[03:03]  * squinty got "disconnected" back in the '70's
[03:03] <joeberardis> Bashing-om: But whenever I use the nvidia drivers I cant even get to a log in screen. Other users were also having issues with 361 drivers correct?
[03:04] <Bashing-om> joeberardis: All my experience with 361 is positive . Many times over 352 .
[03:05] <joeberardis> Bashing-om: I was not having these issues yesterday with the 352 drivers on 15.10... would it possibly have something to do with the new Kernel in 16.04?
[03:06] <Nicholas2> wow again
[03:06] <Nicholas2> anything wrong with #ubuntu today?
[03:06] <Bashing-om> joeberardis: If you release upgraded.... then the older kernels are still on the system . see what results when booting the 15.10 kernel .
[03:07] <joeberardis> Bashing-om: this is a fresh install...
[03:07] <ubuntu898> So then, just to be sure... do I want to boot a live usb as a usb cd, or a usb hd?
[03:07] <squinty> ubuntu898,  the latter
[03:07] <ubuntu898> that's what I thought. Thanks
[03:08] <ubuntu898> I just tried the universal usb installer, so I guess I'll run it and hope for the best
[03:08] <Bashing-om> joeberardis: Ouch ! Not a good intro to 16.04 . I am think'n for some way to move this forward ..
[03:08] <Gallomimia> #update-initramfs -cvk 3.13.0-85-generic > initrd.log  == cryptsetup: WARNING: invalid line in /etc/crypttab for hydra -
[03:08] <Gallomimia> WHY does it keep tellng me this?
[03:08] <Gallomimia> the line is so valid.
[03:09] <joeberardis> Bashing-om: i really appreciate your time and patience
[03:09] <squinty> ubuntu898,  you could also check out  pendrivelinux.com for tutorials and alternate usb programs
[03:09] <Gallomimia> i can't generate my initrd and get it to boot because of this. can anyone make suggestions?
[03:10] <Bashing-om> joeberardis: What does the system see ? what returns ' sudo lshw -C display ' ?
[03:12] <joeberardis> Bashing-om: results -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/15975821/
[03:14] <ubuntu529> That's weird... my computer now says it already has ubuntu on it... but that doesn't seem right.... or at least the installer says it's there...
[03:14] <Bashing-om> joeberardis: That do say that you are booting with the Nvidia card and that the proprietary driver is loaded . What does X now say " pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log " ?
[03:15] <joeberardis> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15975835/
[03:15] <Bashing-om> joeberardis: reading .
[03:17] <ubuntu529> What file system do I want for ubuntu? Normally I'd say ntfs, but that doesn't seem to work
[03:18] <squinty> ext4 is standard these days
[03:19] <Bashing-om> joeberardis: " 77.854] (EE) Failed to load module "nvidia" (module does not exist, 0) " Are you trying to install the driver in recovery ? such that the file system is read only ??
[03:19] <ubuntu529> well, it looks like my installation just crashed again
[03:20] <ubuntu529> it says my mount point /cdrom couldn't be unmounted. then the go back/continue buttons froze up
[03:23] <Bashing-om> joeberardis: Another thought ! " [    77.860] (EE) Screen 0 deleted because of no matching config section. " I can bet if we look at the config file .. it is for Intel rather than Nvidia . ' cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf  ' .
[03:24] <joeberardis> Bashing-om: sorry was afk
[03:24] <joeberardis> Bashing-om: which would you like to try first
[03:25] <Bashing-om> joeberardis:    lets look at the xorg.conf file .
[03:26] <joeberardis> Bashing-om: I have 2 xorg.conf files
[03:26] <joeberardis> xorg.conf.04212016
[03:26] <joeberardis> or xorg.conf.failsafe
[03:28] <bynarie> does anyone know what the default system font for xubuntu was in 15.10? i just upgraded to 16.04 and it looks like crap
[03:29] <joeberardis> Bashing-om: sending .04212016 http://paste.ubuntu.com/15975901/
[03:30] <noob-1225> The default font is "DejaVu Sans Mono Book 9" fot the terminals
[03:30] <bstrie> hi, I'm trying to set up a dual boot windows/16.04 via a live usb, but neither the ubuntu installer nor gparted can find my actual hard drive. all they see is the usb stick
[03:30] <bstrie> any ideas?
[03:32] <lotuspsychje> bstrie: sounds like uefi settings not good
[03:32] <Guy1524> Hey guys, I have ubuntu gnome 16.04, how do I test out wayland?
[03:32] <lotuspsychje> !uefi | bstrie
[03:33] <bstrie> lotuspsychje: thanks! I suspected uefi was somehow involved, but I'm a dinosaur who still thinks in terms of bios :P
[03:33] <Guy1524> nvm
[03:33] <Guy1524> think I found it
[03:37] <Bashing-om> joeberardis: I lost that bet ... however " Section "Device" >> Identifier "intel" >> Driver "modesetting" " . Driver "modesetting"  bothers me . You up to purging again, rm the config file. and install the 361 driver again from our repo ?
[03:37] <mattfly> hm
[03:37] <mattfly> hello
[03:37] <mattfly> does anyone knows about alsamixer plugins?
[03:37] <mattfly> s/knows/know
[03:38] <joeberardis> Bashing-om: Should I get out of recovery mode?
[03:38] <kernel_mutex> hi
[03:39] <kernel_mutex> am I speaking to the channel and you guys hear me ?
[03:39] <joeberardis> i hear you kernel
[03:39] <noob-1225> i hear u also
[03:39] <Bashing-om> well .. we can remount the file system ' mount -o remount,rw /  ' and carry on . Your call .
[03:39] <vfw> mattfly: http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/alsa-lib/pcm_plugins.html
[03:40] <joeberardis> Bashing-om, lets continue
[03:41] <joeberardis> I remounted
[03:44] <linuxgecko> is there a way to install 32-bit versions of all the software i have installed on my ubuntu box?
[03:45] <Bashing-om> joeberardis: remount as above and run ' sudo apt remove nvidia-* ; sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf ; sudo apt install nvidia-361 ; sudo nvidia-xconfig ' . Reboot and let's see what is now .
[03:45] <Bashing-om> joeberardis: we are root .. sudo not needed here !
[03:47] <mick> hey there, i'm having trouble with gdm on xenial
[03:47] <Bashing-om> joeberardis: Another thought .. nvidia-prime should install when the driver installs .... but let's check before rebooting ' dpkg -l nvidia-prime ' .
[03:48] <Guest9843> when I do `systemctl start gdm3', the screen just flashes
[03:48] <Guest9843> at boot, nothing happens except that the systemd process fails
[03:48] <Guest9843> for gdm.service
[03:49] <linuxgecko> i'm quite surpirised that noone responded.
[03:49] <Guest9843> `sudo xinit' gets x running, but none of the display managers work
[03:49] <Guest9843> well, okay that's not true, lightdm and gdm can't get x to start, but slim and xdm get x to start and then I can't log in
[03:51] <joeberardis> Bashing-om: if there is an, "ii  nvidia-prime   0.8.2        amd64" does that mean it installed?
[03:52] <Bashing-om> joeberardis: Yepper /// the 'ii' is desired (i)installed and the end 'i' os the actual state (i)installed . so yeah !
[03:52] <Guest5846> i want to mount /dev/sda2 and /dev/sda5 . how do i do that?
[03:53] <linuxgecko> what's the name of the source package for my running kernel?
[03:53] <joeberardis> Bashing-om: groovy, so anything we need to check before the reboot
[03:54] <Bashing-om> joeberardis: I wish I were sure .. but all I know at this point is to reboot and see if we come up on the GUI .
[03:54] <joeberardis> alright ill let you know how it goes
[03:55] <\9> linuxgecko: apt-get source linux-image-$(uname -r)
[03:55] <\9> linuxgecko: should get it for you
[04:00] <Guest6825> пт
[04:01] <joeberardis> Bashing-om: Same exact issue
[04:02] <Bashing-om> joeberardis: .. And must boot 'nomodeset ' ? and that is what is now ?
[04:02] <joeberardis> I had to boot nomodeset?
[04:03] <Bashing-om> joeberardis: Yeah ... the log file will tell a tale IF KMS has not been defeated .
[04:03] <guest-KFHqAp> someone please help, I can no longer log in to my user account through the graphical login manager, it just loops back to the login manager after it crashes
[04:03] <Bray90820> Was mythbuntu updated along with ubuntu?
[04:03] <guest-KFHqAp> ive been searching for a fix for hours now
[04:04] <joeberardis> Bashing-om: I'm a bit confused sorry, are you saying that I am currently in nomodeset or that I should have pressesed 'e' when i was in grub and changed 'quiet splash' to 'nomodeset'
[04:05] <guest-KFHqAp> when i login through a command line, my cursor has become an 'x' and there is very limited functionality
[04:05] <Bashing-om> guest-KFHqAp: 2 things .. 1) authorization to accesss your desktop . 2) no display driver for the display .
[04:05] <guest-KFHqAp> why all of a sudden are the authroizations different?
[04:06] <guest-KFHqAp> my password gets me past the login screen, what do you mean the authoriztaion to access my desktop?
[04:06] <guest-KFHqAp> in any event, what am i to do?
[04:06] <Bashing-om> joeberardis: Sorry .. tired been at this for hours .. need to know if you booted with the "nomodeset" parameter . If so the log file is of little use to us .
[04:07] <joeberardis> I did not boot with nomodeset parameter, if I try that now will it be of use still?
[04:08] <Bashing-om> guest-KFHqAp: Many things can have an effect on authorization . But as you can get past the login screen . Naybe looking at a broken proprietary graphic's driver.
[04:09] <guest-KFHqAp> well i got past it through the guest login
[04:09] <guest-KFHqAp> what can I do to fix this
[04:09] <soupnanodesukar> If I download the ubuntu cd/dvd through bittorrent, is there a way to get do-release-upgrade to look at the disc as well instead of spending 4hrs downloading every package?
[04:10] <soupnanodesukar> I mean, it would be nice I guess.
[04:10] <Mishari> مرحبا !
[04:11] <Mishari> Hello beauties
[04:11] <Mishari> ;x
[04:11] <Bashing-om> guest-KFHqAp: the guest login is not "you" . A problem with "your" config in "your" account ???
[04:11] <guest-KFHqAp> ok but what do i do to fix that?
[04:11] <guest-KFHqAp> or even find out if thats the problem?
[04:12] <[Saint]> Nothing in the guest account, that's certain.
[04:12] <Mishari> guys can I have your opinion about studying Bash or Python ?
[04:12] <Mishari> I don't waste much time, I want to choose only one.
[04:12] <guest-KFHqAp> id like to make one positive step in trying to fix this before I go to sleep, been at this for 4 hours
[04:12] <Bashing-om> joeberardis: You can boot to terminal .. so we know the issue is in the GUI layer . As to what else we can do to isolate .. presently I am stumped .
[04:14] <guest-KFHqAp> ok Saint, then what?
[04:14] <Bashing-om> guest-KFHqAp: Can you boot to console - ctl+alt+F1 - at the login screen ?
[04:14] <guest-KFHqAp> yes
[04:14] <guest-KFHqAp> i can even startx through that
[04:15] <guest-KFHqAp> but the environment is choppy and very slow and not fleshed out
[04:15] <hzllx> anyone else having trouble installing kodi in 16.04
[04:15] <Bashing-om> guest-KFHqAp: Question ! have you done " sudo startx " at any  time ???
[04:15] <hzllx> or just me
[04:15] <guest-KFHqAp> yes, i just said that
[04:16] <hzllx> i just joined
[04:16] <hzllx> missed the convo
[04:16] <Bashing-om> guest-KFHqAp: then "root" owns your /home .
[04:16] <guest-KFHqAp> wait no not sudo startx
[04:16] <guest-KFHqAp> just startx
[04:17] <guest-KFHqAp> but i loged into my user name and did
[04:17] <guest-KFHqAp> sudo chown -R 777 /home/myusername
[04:17] <hzllx> aanyone tried installing kodi in ubuntu 16.04?
[04:18] <guest-KFHqAp> er sudo chmod
[04:18] <Bashing-om> guest-KFHqAp: K; then let's look and see what X is doing .. in a pastebin show us ' pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log ' .
[04:18] <guest-KFHqAp> i would have to l?og out to do that right
[04:19] <guest-KFHqAp> im in the guest
[04:19] <guest-KFHqAp> account
[04:19] <Bashing-om> guest-KFHqAp: Ouch ! there are some files in /home that should belong to root . ouch .
[04:20] <Bashing-om> joeytwiddle: I just do not know where else to look and do .
[04:20] <guest-KFHqAp> ok well can i just reinstall everythign?
[04:20] <guest-KFHqAp> im sick of this lol
[04:21] <guest-KFHqAp> im so fracking tired right now, just want access to my files
[04:23] <guest-KFHqAp> how do I pastebin from the command line
[04:23] <ChibaPet> Sigh. https://bpaste.net/show/f5da5f5a7aa3 in 16.04, trying to watch a DVD.
[04:24] <guest-KFHqAp> hello?
[04:26] <Bashing-om> guest-KFHqAp: If it is pressing to gain access to your files .. one can mount the file system from a live environment.
[04:26] <Bashing-om> !paste
[04:26] <guest-KFHqAp> yeah but dude
[04:26] <guest-KFHqAp> I am in my guest account
[04:26] <[Saint]> So what?
[04:27] <guest-KFHqAp> the only environment i can access my user account is the coemmand lin
[04:27] <guest-KFHqAp> right?
[04:27] <[Saint]> That literally has zero relevance.
[04:27] <guest-KFHqAp> so i can go into a command line here and get the info i need
[04:27] <guest-KFHqAp> ?
[04:27] <[Saint]> If you need access to them so badly, gain access through a live session.
[04:28] <guest-KFHqAp> why are you sidestepping my question?
[04:28] <ubuntu148> I can't figure out how to unmount "/cdrom" which I'm told it being in use won't let me install the OS.
[04:28] <[Saint]> why do you keep sidestepping the perfectly valid method of retrieving your files that's been stated several time snow?
[04:28] <guest-KFHqAp> jesus
[04:29] <Bashing-om> guest-KFHqAp: try thos from the guest account 'cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | nc termbin.com 9999 ' . the result is a URL . Pass that link back here .
[04:29] <guest-KFHqAp> ok
[04:29] <[Saint]> you've said you "just want access to your files"
[04:29] <guest-KFHqAp> no
[04:29] <[Saint]> boot a live session, go in, and get 'em.
[04:29] <[Saint]> No one's stopping you.
[04:30] <guest-KFHqAp> i dont even know what that is
[04:30] <[Saint]> Well...you did say that.
[04:30] <guest-KFHqAp> yeah after a lot of other things
[04:30] <guest-KFHqAp> after getting no answer to a lot of other things
[04:30] <[Saint]> Diddums.
[04:30] <guest-KFHqAp> and then you provide that answer with no explanation
[04:30] <guest-KFHqAp> what Saint
[04:30] <guest-KFHqAp> piss off
[04:31] <guest-KFHqAp> http://termbin.com/5svs
[04:32] <Bashing-om> guest-KFHqAp: Reading .. I will be awile .
[04:32] <guest-KFHqAp> ty
[04:33] <ubuntu148> What exactly is "device for boot loader"?
[04:36] <Bashing-om> guest-KFHqAp: Intel graphics, And I see no fault . What desktop are you running ?
[04:36] <guest-KFHqAp> its a dell inspiron laptop
[04:37] <guest-KFHqAp> using an hdmi cable hooked up to a tv
[04:37] <Bashing-om> !info linux-image-generic wily
[04:37] <guest-KFHqAp> screen is broken
[04:38] <ubuntu148> for "Device for boot loader installation" do I want to put that as my windows 10 boot loader for the split?
[04:39] <Bashing-om> guest-KFHqAp: !5.10 .. and is thos ubuntu with unity as the desktop environment ?
[04:39] <guest-KFHqAp> its actually xfce
[04:39] <guest-KFHqAp> i think thats what it's called
[04:40] <Bashing-om> guest-KFHqAp: Great .. then 'startx' is valid to start that GUI .
[04:41] <guest-KFHqAp> yeah, but why did the login manager login fail?
[04:41] <guest-KFHqAp> it just crashes and loops back to the login manager
[04:41] <ash_workz> I know this sounds like a stretch but is there an application that would help formulate a feature request by requesting various things such as objective, concept, workflow, etc; (and later help outline/modify/realize these concepts as additional concerns become known) which could save that in some format parsable by another program to derive some basic documentation?
[04:42] <ash_workz> that's not really an ubuntu question, but maybe someone can help me find the right channel or help me better understand/formulate my needs so I can sort of come up with the right question?
[04:43] <guest-KFHqAp> because when I do startx, it loads the gui, ut its much different, much worse, that the gui that loads through the login manager
[04:43] <lotuspsychje> ash_workz: tell us what topic its about first?
[04:44] <cdidd> Anybody knows how to decrypt several partitions in initramfs, preferably with a single passphrase?
[04:45] <michagogo> AIUI upgrades from Trusty aren't offered for a few more months. Is that only the automatic *prompt*, or is it the very possibility of an upgrade?
[04:45] <cdidd> I can't find any ready-made solutions on the internet about decryption of more than one partitions in initramfs.
[04:45] <nzw1> I'm loving ubuntu 16.04
[04:46] <poee> what is the best program to recover deleted data in kubuntu
[04:46] <poee> ?
[04:46] <lotuspsychje> poee: photorec
[04:46] <michagogo> Meaning, right now, could I ask it to upgrade me from Trusty to Xenial?
[04:46] <guest-KFHqAp> Bashing-om?
[04:46] <lotuspsychje> !info testdisk | poee
[04:46] <michagogo> Or is that not even possible until .1?
[04:46] <lotuspsychje> michagogo: yes its possible, but not recommended for the LTS way
[04:46] <poee> photorec is a part of testdisk?
[04:46] <Bashing-om> guest-KFHqAp: Well, we can consider resetting the desktop to defaults . You will loose all your changes .
[04:47] <lotuspsychje> poee: correct
[04:47] <poee> thanks lotuspsychje
[04:47] <guest-KFHqAp> what changes?
[04:47] <Xali> I'm having trouble installing java. I use the make command to compile and install, but it does not work like the README said
[04:47] <lotuspsychje> poee: sudo photorec after, and scan your whole hd :p
[04:47] <guest-KFHqAp> i dont care about the features, just the data
[04:47] <poee> got it
[04:47] <guest-KFHqAp> how do i do that?
[04:48] <michagogo> poee: but if you've deleted data, immediately disconnect the disk
[04:48] <michagogo> Or remount ro or somethjng
[04:48] <poee> shut down kubutnu?
[04:48] <poee> i dont have multiple disks
[04:48] <michagogo> lotuspsychje: is it recommended against? If so, why? Or is it just that it's not yet being pushed out?
[04:49] <michagogo> poee: so get another disk and do the recovery into three
[04:49] <michagogo> Onto theee
[04:49] <michagogo> There
[04:49] <poee> ok. i ll shut down the disk then
[04:49] <poee> thanks
[04:49] <lotuspsychje> michagogo: 16.04.1 will have sorted the first bugs out, hence the more 'safer' way
[04:49] <acetakwas> Hello
[04:49] <lotuspsychje> michagogo: but hey, its your machine, do it your way if you like
[04:49] <styles> I just upgraded to 16.04 and Displays isn't showing any other monitors except one (I have 3)
[04:49] <michagogo> If there's deleted data, every write that happens risks overwriting what you're trying to recover
[04:49] <Mishari> hacking discussion is allowed here ?
[04:50] <lotuspsychje> Mishari: no
[04:50] <Mishari> shokran
[04:50] <michagogo> lotuspsychje: is there anything special, anything that happens at the moment of the point release?
[04:50] <dodobrain> hi all
[04:51] <dodobrain> how do i use the fastest local mirror when using update-manager to upgrade to 16.04 ?
[04:51] <michagogo> Or is it incremental updates over 3 months, and then at one point an arbitrary snapshot is tagged?
[04:51] <lotuspsychje> michagogo: well yes, like i said the most nasty bugs will be taken out
[04:51] <dodobrain> i tried simply runnig update-manager and it seems to be pulling packages from archive.ubuntu.com and thats being hammered obviously
[04:51] <michagogo> lotuspsychje: you misunderstand, I think
[04:51] <dodobrain> and my local mirror seems to be up to date with the latest packages!
[04:52] <acetakwas> I used to use pm-hibernate on my computer (and it worked for a couple of hibernates, say 3-4 times). However, ever since I tampered with SWAP (recreated it), it hasn't worked. It goes off as if it's hibernated, but starts afresh when I turn on the computer.
[04:52] <acetakwas> SWAP was 4GB (before and after recreation).
[04:52] <lotuspsychje> michagogo: lets reverse it, why are you affraid to use 16.04 right now?
[04:52] <guest-KFHqAp> Bashing-om?
[04:52] <ash_workz> lotuspsychje: topic... um.... "planning for extending/improving/fixing your software or application"
[04:52] <lotuspsychje> !patience | guest-KFHqAp
[04:52] <ash_workz> I am envisioning a form or template to fill out that asks you (when you want to incorporate a new feature into your software) things like, "What's the goal of this feature?" "How do you intend for this feature to work?" "What other components will this feature leverage?" "What other features will this feature impact?" etc. Basically, putting down on "paper" your ideas, diagrams, etc, just as...
[04:52] <acetakwas> Yesterday I even changed my SWAP to 12 GB.
[04:53] <ash_workz> ...you would when your brainstorming to begin with (and also allow for you to amend it as problems and things you hadn't thought of pop-up) so that you're producing documentation as you go which can be parsed and put into a system so as to be accessible to everyone on your team :)
[04:53] <ubuntu148> Why can't I get part of the computer to unmount?
[04:53] <lotuspsychje> ash_workz: but what has it to do with ubuntu exactly?
[04:53] <michagogo> lotuspsychje: I'm not necessarily. I'm trying to understand if I should be -- if there are expected to be major bugs that will be fixed by the time of .1
[04:53] <Bashing-om> guest-KFHqAp: To reset to defaults: from the F1 console ' xfce4-panel --quit ; pkill xfconfd ; rm -rf ~/.config/xfce4/panel ; rm -rf ~/.config/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/xfce4-panel.xml ' . ' xfce4-panel ' . his will respawn xfconfd automatically. This clears it for the running session, regenerates the files, and sets up the default for future sessions. reboot amd let's see what happens .
[04:54] <ash_workz> lotuspsychje: likely nothing.... I am throwing darts at walls because I don't know where to start :\
[04:54] <lotuspsychje> michagogo: major bugs will be taken out 'if' they are found yes
[04:54] <lotuspsychje> !alis | ash_workz
[04:54] <ash_workz> lotuspsychje: I just thought someone might have some incling of an idea do they could push me in that direction
[04:54] <michagogo> lotuspsychje: basically, my question has 2 parts
[04:55] <acetakwas> HI
[04:55] <ash_workz> lotuspsychje: that's great and all.... but what would you list?
[04:55] <acetakwas> I used to use pm-hibernate on my computer (and it worked for a couple of hibernates, say 3-4 times). However, ever since I tampered with SWAP (recreated it), it hasn't worked. It goes off as if it's hibernated, but starts afresh when I turn on the computer.
[04:55] <guest-KFHqAp> Bashing-om, can i copy that and then control alt f1 and paste it or will it not be available
[04:55] <acetakwas> SWAP was 4GB (before and after recreation).
[04:55] <acetakwas> Yesterday I even changed my SWAP to 12 GB.
[04:55] <Fisto> trying to install chrome or dropbox and the software center that opens, clicking install does nothing
[04:55] <lotuspsychje> ash_workz: what your looking for: brainstorm,...
[04:55] <michagogo> 1. Right now, is upgrading to Xenial contrarecommended? Is it expected to contain major bugs?
[04:56] <Fisto> @michagogo don't upgrade to Xenial, trying to install stuff is broken.
[04:56] <lotuspsychje> michagogo: 1. its not recommended if you want the safest LTS way
[04:56] <ash_workz> lotuspsychje: mkay.... I'll tias where it takes me
[04:56] <Fisto> can someone help me?
[04:56] <guest-KFHqAp> yeah, i guess ill have to write that on some paper
[04:56] <lotuspsychje> michagogo: 2. bugs will be expected as always
[04:56] <[Saint]> It has worked fine for me for weeks and weeks.
[04:56] <[Saint]> I've been on Xenial since it hit +1
[04:57] <Fisto> i cant install anything, trying to install chrome and it does NOTHING.  software center pops up, click install.   it greys out for a second and than comes back, spam the hell out of it and still nothing happens.
[04:57] <michagogo> 2. Is there anything special that happens when a point release comes out? Or is it just an arbitrary tag marking a moment, after 3 months of ongoing updates?
[04:57] <Fisto> can install dropbox either
[04:57] <[Saint]> Mind you, I use Ubuntu Server, and the lack of DE probably cuts out a lot of the room for eror.
[04:57] <michagogo> That is, is upgrading in 2 months (or a week before .1) better than upgrading now?
[04:57] <ash_workz> oh, also... if there's anyone that contributes to ubuntu here (packages or anything that requires development) have you ever used anything like what I am asking about?
[04:57] <duzhao> d
[04:58] <lotuspsychje> michagogo: but if you install 16.04 clean or upgrade now, you will also receive updates
[04:58] <[Saint]> Fisto: works fine here - *shrug* - has done so ever since I switched.
[04:58] <michagogo> lotuspsychje: but is the point release just a flag saying "you have all the released updates until this date"? Or is it something more special?
[04:58] <Bashing-om> acetakwas: Does the UUIDs in the file /etc/fstab agree with 'sudo blkid' ?
[04:58] <Guest5846> i want to backup /Users on windows partition. does cp -r work?
[04:58] <lotuspsychje> michagogo: nothing special
[04:59] <Fisto> @Saint i cant install dropbox or chrome.  it just opens the software center and wont proceed
[04:59] <lotuspsychje> michagogo: users can download then the 16.04.1 iso with all past bugs out
[04:59] <[Saint]> Fisto: so use dpkg
[04:59] <ubuntu148> My install keeps crashing over a part that won't unmount. :\
[04:59] <Fisto> @Saint no idea what that is, i tried sudo apt-get install google-chrome or sudo apt-get dropbox and it wont find the packages
[05:00] <lotuspsychje> michagogo: the wait for .1 for lts to lts upgrade is just a more secure way for transition
[05:00] <Fisto> there is a grey square box with a ? mark in it in my launcher that if i hover over says "Waiting to install"  i assume thats because the install wont work, but i have no idea
[05:00] <Bashing-om> guest-KFHqAp: fraid you will loose it getting to the console . In console you do not have the ability to paste .
[05:00] <acetakwas> Bashing-om::  Yes
[05:00] <[Saint]> "dpkg -i chrome_deb_that_you_downloaded.deb"
[05:01] <Fisto> @Saint i want to install them from the .deb files so it cleanly installs and dosen't leave room for problems i wont know how to fix later
[05:02] <Fisto> and even if i fix it that way, it wont tell me how to fix the problem im currently having now anyway
[05:02] <Bashing-om> acetakwas: Only thought I had why hiberbation would no longer work . Sorry .
[05:02] <[Saint]> Fisto: I'm not sure why you think that installing it with dpkg isn;t "clean", but, whatever.
[05:02] <[Saint]> It's a perfectly valid solution, take it or leave it.
[05:03] <michagogo> Fisto: if you want Google Chrome, download the .deb from Google
[05:03] <[Saint]> bingo.
[05:03] <Fisto> well because i use Ubuntu for the fact i install eith Via PPA or .Deb and not have a problem later down the line.  if i start tinkering with other methods i might as well move back to ARCH
[05:03] <Fisto> @michagogo thats whats not working
[05:03] <[Saint]> Fisto: did you even read what I wrote?
[05:03] <[Saint]> this _is_ installing from .deb
[05:03] <michagogo> Then open a terminal, type 'sudo dpkg -i /path/to/chrome.dev'
[05:04] <michagogo> Fisto: we're telling you to install from den
[05:04] <michagogo> Deb
[05:04] <[Saint]> and you're saying "no, I want to install from .deb"
[05:04] <[Saint]> and it's hilarious.
[05:04] <[Saint]> because that's what we're telling you to do.
[05:04] <michagogo> From personal experience, that's the way that works
[05:04] <Fisto> even if i do that, it dosen't fix the fact it dosent work correctly in the first place. im trying to get it to just work as intended instead of doing it as a workaround.  if i use the .deb file it should just open in the sofware center, i click install, and it asks for password.  and done
[05:04] <michagogo> And then continues to work with apt-get etc
[05:05] <michagogo> Fisto: idk, personally I never use Software Center
[05:05] <michagogo> Just apt-get and sometimes dpkg
[05:05] <[Saint]> Nor I. It is entirely superfluous.
[05:05] <michagogo> (Which is what SC does behind the scenes)
[05:05] <Fisto> using the method your providing with is fine, but its just that. a workaround. im trying to figure out why opening the .deb file as i always have in previous verions is failing to work
[05:06] <[Saint]> it's all the software manager is doing anyway.
[05:06] <[Saint]> you just want a fancy GUI wrapper for it for some reason.
[05:06] <michagogo> Just a more direct way of doing the same thing -- USC calls dpkg
[05:06] <lotuspsychje> its good for novice users who want GUI
[05:06] <guest-KFHqAp> Bashing-om
[05:06] <[Saint]> that, apparently, is broken on your system. I care not for that. I gave you a valid fix, use it or don't. I care not.
[05:06] <guest-KFHqAp> that did not work for me
[05:06] <michagogo> If you want to call that a workaround, okay
[05:06] <michagogo> [Saint]: well, I see his point
[05:07] <michagogo> USC *is* a feature of Ubuntu
[05:07] <[Saint]> I do too, kinda, but if he wants Chrome...
[05:07] <michagogo> And it's not working
[05:07] <guest-KFHqAp> for xfce4-panel it gave cannot open display
[05:07] <michagogo> If what he wants is to fix this specific problem, just use dpkg
[05:07] <[Saint]> The issue shouldn;t be if we're "sidestepping" anything, it should be how much he wants Chrome to run.
[05:07] <yacc> nickserv identify yacc qwerty
[05:07] <michagogo> But if he's looking to solve the USC problem...
[05:07] <[Saint]> woops yacc
[05:08] <lotuspsychje> yacc: change your password
[05:08] <michagogo> yacc: I hope that's not your password
[05:08] <[Saint]> (and qwerty, really? lol)
[05:08] <michagogo> If it is, change it now
[05:08] <lotuspsychje> heh
[05:08] <michagogo> (To something more secure!)
[05:08] <Fisto> see, this is why people call "Linux" a "too complicated" platform.   because using a GUI is "just unecessary" according to you two, why not just "go through terminal commands"  .  id prefer if the system just worked as intended. i have no problem uysing the method you provided, id just prefer it if you would help me figure out why its not working as intended instead of just doing it another slightly more complicated way
[05:08] <[Saint]> yeah - like 12345, like normal people.
[05:08] <rud0lf> for example 123456
[05:08] <[Saint]> hahaha
[05:08] <rud0lf> ^5 ;)
[05:08] <rud0lf> it's too obvious to be considered, eh?
[05:09] <michagogo> Fisto: is it also not working in other ways/cases?
[05:09] <Fisto> yes, i cant even install dropbox via .deb    anything .deb just opens the software center with the "Install" button prompt and when i click it, does nothing
[05:09] <rud0lf> i like linux' terminal, if there's something you think that may be done easy way, there's probably a command to do this
[05:10] <ubuntu148> qwerty is a weak password. qwertyuiop or get out >:C
[05:10] <yacc_> Btw, the upgrade 14.04 => 16.04 is a desaster that leaves the system unusable :(
[05:10] <Bashing-om> guest-KFHqAp: I am back , yes ?
[05:10] <michagogo> Fisto: I see. Unfortunately I'm completely unfamiliar with USC so I can't help. Maybe someone else can.
[05:10] <rud0lf> i just did clean install for 14.04 to 16.04 beta
[05:10] <michagogo> yacc_: hmm?
[05:10] <rud0lf> now i'm not sure if i have full distro :D
[05:10] <guest-KFHqAp> hey
[05:11] <guest-KFHqAp> it gave an error
[05:11] <guest-KFHqAp> cannot open display
[05:11] <yacc_> michagogo, meant as I said it :(
[05:11] <Fisto> well, like i said previously. there IS a a square box with a ? in it on my launcher that if i hover over says "Waiting to install" so im assuming its TRYING to do as intended, but somethings not working
[05:11] <guest-KFHqAp> for xfce4-panel --quit
[05:11] <michagogo> yacc_: what breaks?
[05:11] <michagogo> And why would that break more than a clean install?
[05:11] <tgm4883> Fisto: the first step would be seeing if it's printing any errors. Normally I'd do this via command line, but I'm not sure what the command is to start that. Perhaps 'gnome-software'
[05:12] <acetakwas> How do I make pm-hibernate work? It used to work before?
[05:12] <ubuntu148> I'm actually debating trying to get 12.04 and just spam upgrade commands until it gets to 16.04
[05:12] <Fisto> @tmg4883  they changed it from 'Software-Center'?  that might be why i cant open it in terminal
[05:12] <michagogo> Fisto: check htop for the process name
[05:12] <tgm4883> Fisto: is this 16.04?
[05:12] <Fisto> the newst release, yes
[05:12] <rud0lf> i don't use hibernate because it doesn't go into lock screen, it goes to desktop instead :[
[05:12] <Fisto> just installed like 30 minutes ago
[05:13] <tgm4883> Fisto: I believe it's based off gnome-software now
[05:13] <yacc_> michagogo, in my case, X11 does not come up, black screen. And the best I managed was to get a non-GLX X11 on the intel GPU going => and that (probably) let to a completely unusuable desktop. (As in: "a system program crashed" and 2s later you are back at the login prompt.)
[05:13] <Fisto> gnome-software  (gnome-software:4575): Gs-WARNING **: failed to open plugin /usr/lib/gs-plugins-9/libgs_plugin_xdg_app_reviews.so: /usr/lib/gs-plugins-9/libgs_plugin_xdg_app_reviews.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[05:13] <Bashing-om> guest-KFHqAp: from the F1 console. ' cat .xsession-errors | nc termbin.com 9999 ' . see what we can make out.
[05:13] <Fisto> that is returned,
[05:13] <abhi_> Hello is it possible to recover rm -rf deleted file
[05:13] <yacc_> michagogo, basically the upgrade seems not to care about your GUI setup.
[05:14] <michagogo> abhi_: first, remount the disk RO or turn off the computer
[05:14] <Jordan_U> Fisto: Does "pgrep dpkg" print anything?
[05:14] <michagogo> Then use photorec
[05:14] <rud0lf> alt+sysrq+u
[05:14] <rud0lf> i think
[05:14] <guest-KFHqAp> haha i was just looking at that
[05:14] <michagogo> (from a different system)
[05:14] <guest-KFHqAp> it gives this error
[05:14] <Fisto> @Jordan_U i am unfamiliar with that command, what do i attach it to?
[05:14] <tgm4883> !undelete | abhi_
[05:14] <guest-KFHqAp> cannot connect to brltty
[05:15] <Jordan_U> abhi_: Is it possible that the file is still open in any application / process?
[05:16] <DirtyCajun> so what can i use since stress is not a package in 16.04
[05:16] <Bashing-om> guest-KFHqAp: I do not know right off hand . I have been at this for hours and now I am too tired to think. I am quitting for this session .
[05:17] <guest-KFHqAp> termbin.com/9n03
[05:17] <bateelk> Hello, I was trying to encrypt /dev/sda2 with Disk utility. Once it is done, during reboot, the Ubuntu 16.04 went to emergency mode. Anyone knows how to fix this?
[05:17] <abhi_> Jordan_U: yes its postgresql data folder that i deleted
[05:17] <mcdonc> apologies if this is a faq; i installed xenial from a daily iso 2 days ago.. is there anything i need to do to ensure that i "stay LTS" or do i just keep on truckin
[05:18] <somsip> !final | mcdonc
[05:18] <Jordan_U> abhi_: If postfresql is still running *do not close it*
[05:18] <mcdonc> roger thanks!
[05:18] <abhi_> Jordan_U: ok then
[05:20] <Jordan_U> abhi_: Run the following command
[05:20] <mcdonc> nice work on the release, folks, i moved from 12.04 without much issue
[05:20] <Jordan_U> abhi_: sudo lsof | grep '(deleted)'
[05:20] <guest-KFHqAp> ok
[05:21] <Jordan_U> abhi_: It will probably list a lot of files, these are all the files on your system that have been unlinked but are still open.
[05:21] <Guest5846> how to check which USB content?
[05:22] <Guest5846> how to check liveUSB content?
[05:23] <Jordan_U> abhi_: https://www.linux.com/news/bring-back-deleted-files-lsof
[05:24] <Bashing-om> guest-KFHqAp: I can not make out what might be going on with the disaplay :0. Others here will have to take up my slack . I am gone for the session .
[05:25] <Jordan_U> abhi_: Note that using this exact method will copy the file as it's possibly in an inconsistent state since postgresql is currently running. This may not be ideal, but it can't make the situation worse. Your best bet is to to this then *also* use postgresql commands to try to dump the database in addition to making this copy.
[05:26] <stormanka> I got a quick yes or no question. If i reinstall and start to use LVM can i add my existing second harddrive to the volume group without formatting? thanks
[05:26] <hateball> stormanka: No
[05:26] <stormanka> hateball: okey, thanks alot for the info! Alot faster than google :)
[05:27] <soupnanodesukar> Btw, the australian archive server is missing packages, stuff like uuid-runtime for example. My sister stopped her upgrade process when she noticed she was getting 404 not found.
[05:27] <hateball> stormanka: There is also the option of using btrfs instead of LVM
[05:27] <styles> I just upgraded to 16.04 and Displays isn't showing any other monitors except one (I have 3)
[05:27] <hateball> stormanka: Depending on your needs of course
[05:28] <yacc_> styles: be happy that it even shows one ;)
[05:28] <Jordan_U> styles: Were you using proprietary drivers before the upgrade?
[05:28] <styles> Jordan_U, yeah. I first transitioned to the open source ones then upgraded
[05:28] <styles> I knew that they removed proprietary drivers
[05:29] <soupnanodesukar> ...so my sister switched to the us server in the hope that it would be more complete, but that server is like 10x slower.
[05:29] <Jordan_U> styles: Were all three monitors working with the open drivers before the upgrade?
[05:29] <stormanka> hateball: i just want to be able to store things across physical disks without using separate partitions in a way not to hard for a novice.
[05:29] <styles> Yeah
[05:29] <stormanka> hateball: without the help of GUI
[05:29] <Jordan_U> soupnanodesukar: It seems a little silly to try to upgrade now. I would just wait until the rush has passed.
[05:30] <soupnanodesukar> Jordan_U: that's what I was thinking
[05:30] <stratos> hey folks my wifi if not coming back online after suspend - I have to open the topright menu and select enable wifi every time
[05:30] <styles> Jordan_U, it's AMD ATI 7870 drivers
[05:30] <Jordan_U> soupnanodesukar: Also note that the australian server probably isn't missing uuid-runtime, but is more likely just missing the specific version of uuid-runtime that apt was trying to grab.
[05:31] <soupnanodesukar> Jordan_U: oh, okay. In any case I'll sit tight for a bit.
[05:31] <BoomHax> Can someone who is good with ubuntu/linux and know alot about it message me?
[05:31] <BoomHax> It will take 5 seconds
[05:31] <Jordan_U> !pm | BoomHax
[05:31] <Jordan_U> styles: Please pastebin the output of "xrandr" and the contents of /var/log/Xorg.0.log .
[05:31] <Guest5846> why gparted does not recognize the USB device it is running from?
[05:32] <Jordan_U> Guest5846: What do you mean by "not recognize"?
[05:32] <Guest5846> Jordan_U: there is no usb device in the list
[05:33] <Jordan_U> Guest5846: Please pastebin the output of "sudo parted -l" and "ls -l /dev/disk/by-path/" .
[05:33] <BoomHax> Jordan_U : I have an older computer. It is the dell inspiron 530s. It is fairly old but it ran windows 10 pretty good when I upgraded. Will the higher versions of linux/ubuntu be bad for an older pc?
[05:33] <styles> Jordan_U, http://pastebin.com/cWsAj3Kg
[05:33] <BoomHax> http://www.cnet.com/products/dell-inspiron-530s-pentium-e2160-1-8-ghz-2-gb-320-gb-lcd-17/specs/
[05:33] <BoomHax> Jordan_U, those are the specs
[05:34] <BoomHax> I am sorry I am a noob trying to get better
[05:34] <bullgard4> What is the most comprehensive document with subject "What's new in Ubuntu 16.04?"?
[05:34] <[Saint]> BoomHax: run a live session and find out.
[05:34] <[Saint]> you'll see how it runs, and it is entirely reversible.
[05:34] <BoomHax> I know, but it could seem fine at first and act really bad later
[05:35] <BoomHax> That's happened before to me so that's why I am asking
[05:35] <Jordan_U> BoomHax: Generally no, newer versions shouldn't be much heavier. I always recommend against using older versions just because you have older hardware. If anything, if Ubuntu 16.04 with Unity is too heavy for that machine then switch to Xubuntu 16.04, not an older version of Ubuntu with Unity.
[05:35] <[Saint]> No one here can predict the future.
[05:35] <BoomHax> Thank you.
[05:35] <styles> Jordan_U, it just looks like it never detects the others. The dd part is the second monitor is displayed on the left (mirrored) and not showing in displays
[05:35] <[Saint]> Best you can see is how it runs *now*.
[05:36] <[Saint]> Not how it might run at some unknown time in future.
[05:36] <BoomHax> Thank you
[05:37] <Jordan_U> styles: cat /proc/cmdline
[05:38] <Guest5846> Jordan_U: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15976645/
[05:38] <styles> Jordan_U, BOOT_IMAGE=/vmlinuz-4.4.0-21-generic root=UUID=a12d90a5-24ee-43c6-952f-b175d30442d0 ro quiet splash vt.handoff=7
[05:38] <acetakwas> How do I make pm-hibernate work?
[05:38] <Guest5846> Jordan_U: parted listed USB but gparted does not.
[05:39] <Jordan_U> Guest5846: Odd.
[05:39] <acetakwas> I just edited my /etc/default/grub with: `GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="enable_mtrr_cleanup=1 resume=/dev/sda6"`
[05:39] <acetakwas> But it still doesn't work
[05:39] <Solarbaby> damn my new ubuntu install on my mac just completely fell apart
[05:40] <Solarbaby> doesn't want to boot or really even see the boot drive
[05:40] <Solarbaby> thats annoying
[05:40] <Solarbaby> maybe I shouldn't have used luks full drive encryption on a mac
[05:41] <Solarbaby> shrug
[05:41] <Jordan_U> Solarbaby: What do you mean by "really even see the boot drive"? What exactly happens when you try to boot? What happens when you try to luksopen from a LiveCD/USB?
[05:42] <dionysus69> I ran vncserver command in .profile and it ran as root
[05:43] <dionysus69> how can I make it run as normal user
[05:43] <dionysus69> I just want to run vncserver at default 5901 at startup
[05:43] <Solarbaby> Jordan_U: it's been interesting for sure because different things happened during different reboots.  My very first reboot was awesome.  Luks asked me for my password and I was in and happy.  second reboot after finishing up with all my software installs and this is a big one I installed a propriatary recommended Nvidia driver the very newest it offered via software-updates manager.
[05:44] <Solarbaby> and then it asked me for my password at bootup but the keyboard or mouse or anything usb didn't work.. so I forced shut down the computer and then powered up again.. this time I get the boot manager but nothing is able to boot
[05:44] <styles> Jordan_U, any ideas? sorry to bug you. It seems like the output of that isn't showing the other monitors
[05:44] <Solarbaby> One other interesting detail is that when I start the computer and press alt key to select a boot drive the boot drive wasn't showing up
[05:45] <Solarbaby> but yet the boot manager does show up.. it just will stall out quickly while trying to boot recovery or anything else
[05:46] <Jordan_U> styles: It seems like the problem is starting with kms, "[KMS] drm report modesetting isn't supported.". Do you have full resolution ttys? Please pastebin the output of "dmesg".
[05:46] <Solarbaby> Jordan_U: this is a 2009 mac mini with the original 160 gig hard drive.. It is possible that my drive is showing signs of deteriation maybe.
[05:47] <styles> Jordan_U, http://pastebin.com/6ybNigqF
[05:47] <jak2000> hi
[05:47] <jak2000> how to install the lastest version of openssl ?
[05:48] <Jordan_U> Solarbaby: Check S.M.A.R.T. status of the drive via a LiveCD/USB.
[05:48] <Jordan_U> jak2000: What is your end goal?
[05:48] <Solarbaby> Jordan_U: Okay I'll do that right away
[05:50] <jak2000> apt-get install libsslversion
[05:50] <jak2000> but where to know wich version is?
[05:50] <Jordan_U> styles: I don't know why it's loading vesafb instead of the native ati drivers. Did you blacklist the native ati drivers at any point?
[05:51] <styles> Jordan_U, nope
[05:51] <Jordan_U> jak2000: What is your end goal?
[05:51] <styles> I had prop drivers installed then .. removed it and installed open source that's about it
[05:51] <styles> how can I check what's on the blacklist?
[05:52] <stormanka> Quick second yes or no question, should i include my swap partition in my lvm group/logical volume?
[05:52] <jak2000> instal couchbase
[05:52] <jak2000> i am followig: http://developer.couchbase.com/documentation/server/4.1/getting-started/installing.html#installing
[05:54] <Guest5846> Jordan_U: what is /dev/sda3 for? sda3 is the same as sda5
[05:56] <pksadiq> For those who have installed ubuntu 16.04, and not installed any other extra packages, can you please check for me if either of `acpi' or `upower -e' command gives you any output?
[05:56] <Jordan_U> jak2000: You probably already have libssl installed, but you can just run "sudo apt-get install libssl<tab><tab>" to see the available packages.
[05:58] <acetakwas> So I have taken care of my `pm-hibernate` issues
[05:58] <NoCode> Could you devs start thinking about enabled a Cinnamon official release image as well? That would be pretty nice. Wish Xerus had one. :(
[05:58] <acetakwas> Can anyone help with speeding up my computer?
[05:59] <NoCode> Cinnamon is quite sexy.
[05:59] <Guest13419> Hi there, anybody around who could help me troubleshooting wireless problems? More exactly: I do have a wireless connection, but (most times) no internet connection (see: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=361655 for details).
[05:59] <Jordan_U> NoCode: This isn't the place to get the attention of the Ubuntu developers.
[05:59] <acetakwas> Whenever I run Firefox (two windows and a couple of tabs) and Sublime (a couple of windows)
[05:59] <acetakwas> It starts getting slow
[06:00] <acetakwas> Then of course I have my IRC client and terminal (one window of Terminator) running
[06:00] <acetakwas> I don't expect these to make the computer slow.
[06:02] <NoCode> Jordan_U, That's fine. It is already done.
[06:02] <NoCode> Jordan_U, Don't get on my case.
[06:02] <vbotka> Guest13419, it seems like a problem with NetworkManager. You might want to try and disable it. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkManager#Disabling_NetworkManager
[06:02] <NoCode> Jordan_U, Did I spam them?
[06:03] <styles> Jordan_U, so it looks like nothing is in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[06:03] <styles> /etc/modprobe.d/ - is actually empty
[06:03] <NoCode> Anyway. Good luck with your support.
[06:03] <Jordan_U> NoCode: You've sent me 3 messages in reply to my one message. I meant only to inform you that you weren't furthering your goal here.
[06:04] <NoCode> Jordan_U, Yup.
[06:05] <Jordan_U> styles: Do all of the monitors work from a 16.04 LiveCD/USB?
[06:05] <styles> Jordan_U, no clue, I did the dist-upgrade
[06:05] <Guest13419> vbotka: I just tried WICD (and after installing it I ran 'sudo service network-manager stop' and 'sudo killall wpa_supplicant', but the problem stayed the same
[06:06] <Jordan_U> styles: Please test that. You can do so without any additional media if you want.
[06:06] <styles> Jordan_U, alright let me grab an image
[06:07] <jak2000> how to determine how much memory have installed?
[06:07] <shiznix> jak2000: free -h
[06:08] <vbotka> Guest13419, very probably you'll have to go through lower level details as described in !wifi
[06:08] <shiznix> oh yay, found the needed kernel fixes and ubuntu bug to get Intel gfx working again in 16.04
[06:08] <vbotka> Guest13419, !wifi
[06:08] <shiznix> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/1522922
[06:09] <shiznix> and https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=91393
[06:09] <jak2000> thanks
[06:09] <Elec_A> I'm not sure if I am asking in a right place but I have a question about ubuntu mate. Is it a stable release in their website? becuase I know that it was under development for 2 years.
[06:10] <Guest13419> vbotka: !wifi?
[06:10] <shiznix> except as per the kernel bug, it can also mean dead display with black screen (which i get)
[06:11] <vbotka> Guest13419, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessTroubleShootingGuide
[06:14] <Jordan_U> Elec_A: Ubuntu Mate is an official Ubuntu flavor, so yes.
[06:15] <Guest13419> vbotka: ok, thank you. I will try that
[06:16] <Guest13419> vbotka: the funny thing is that in this moment the connection is working.. I'll reboot
[06:16] <Elec_A> Jordan_U: Oh so all official flavors will release their stable versions together? right ?
[06:17] <edisto> well ubuntu gnome doesnt have 16.04 on their site but I did find it through ubuntu.com. So 'm guessing so elec
[06:17] <styles> Jordan_U, alright I have to reboot to do this. I'll be back, will you be around?
[06:18] <Jordan_U> Elec_A: I expect that that's the general policy, but more importantly Ubuntu Mate's website says that Ubuntu Mate 16.04 has been released.
[06:18] <Jordan_U> styles: For a while, yes.
[06:18] <Elec_A> Jordan_U: thanks :)
[06:19] <Jordan_U> Elec_A: You're welcome.
[06:20] <edisto> lol i'm so disappointed. I've been waiting for 16.04 to use my dual gpu's and I can't even log in =(
[06:21] <edisto> amd support for linux has been so pooh. Can't install dual gpu drivers
[06:21] <zjhxmjl> hi,guys!who can give me help or advance?https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/932240/geforce-drivers/install-gtx-750ti-driver-in-ubuntu-14-04-32bit-system/
[06:22] <styles> Jordan_U, alright thanks. It's not writing to my USB blah
[06:23] <Jordan_U> styles: What problem are you having writing to the USB? How are you trying to prepare the USB drive?
[06:23] <styles> Jordan_U, unetbootin
[06:24] <Dro> is it safe to upgrade from 14.04 to 16.04 now ?
[06:24] <Jordan_U> Dro: Direct upgrades to 16.04 from 14.04 will be enabled when 16.04.1 is released, so it's best to wait for that to happen.
[06:25] <edisto> yeah or you might get the error where you get stuck in infinite login loop
[06:25] <Dro> Jordan_U, ok! hope it'll come soon.. can't wait to try 16.04 :D
[06:26] <Jordan_U> styles: You haven't described what the problem you're having is yet. Is there any error message?
[06:27] <yacc_> Are there any directions how to create a fully encrypted LUKS/LVM install with ubiquity, or should it be obvious?
[06:28] <Jordan_U> styles: And again, you don't need to use a USB drive if you don't want to.
[06:28] <davido> It seems that openconnect isn't compatible with network manager in 16.04.
[06:29] <Jordan_U> styles: sudo apt install grml-rescueboot && sudo mkdir -p /boot/grml/ && sudo cp /path/to/ubuntu.iso /boot/grml/ && sudo update-grub
[06:29] <styles> Jordan_U, woah nice didn't know this!
[06:30] <styles> Jordan_U, ah this is rescue boot?
[06:30] <styles> I though live CD
[06:30] <styles> yeah rescue boot didn't work either
[06:30] <davido> In particular, installing openconnect and the network manager plugin for it, the openconnect vpn does not appear in the list of available vpns to add a connection for.
[06:32] <Jordan_U> styles: The name is misleading, it is not grml specific (supports any distro which ships a loopback.cfg, which all Ubuntu isos do) and it's not related to the "rescue" boot option. It will add an entry to your grub menu for loop booting any Ubuntu isos you put in /boot/grml/.
[06:33] <yacc_> Fascinating, my laptop has two builtin "hdds" (actually sdd/hdd) and currently 2 USB harddiscs connected, and one SD card mounted, and ubiquity offers me "delete harddisc" as an option => WHICH HARDDISC?
[06:33] <styles> Jordan_U, ah ok
[06:34] <Kartagis> sudo do-release-upgrade
[06:34] <Kartagis> Checking for a new Ubuntu release
[06:34] <Kartagis> No new release found
[06:34] <Kartagis> why?
[06:34] <Jordan_U> yacc_: Please provide a screenshot and the output of "ls -l /dev/disk/by-path/" and "ls -l /dev/disk/by-id/".
[06:34] <styles> Jordan_U, No space left on device asdfasdfadsf blah lol
[06:35] <acer> Hey Ladies
[06:35] <Jordan_U> Kartagis: What version of Ubuntu are you trying to upgrade from?
[06:35] <Kartagis> 14.04
[06:35] <yacc_> Jordan_U, I'm already solving it in hardcore way, by disconnecting the discs that are not needed.
[06:35] <Jordan_U> Kartagis: Upgrades from 14.04 won't be enabled until 16.04.1 is released.
[06:35] <Kartagis> oh
[06:35] <Kartagis> okay
[06:36] <Elec_A> Sorry for this odd question, but why it takes several monthes to introduce a new version of ubuntu and only major upgrade is supporting several new hardware and unity's ability to go to bottom? I am upgrading from ubuntu 14.04 to 16.04 and I literally see no difference and improvement in my work. by the way, I am just a programmer.
[06:36] <Jordan_U> styles: Is that "no space left" from the cp command?
[06:36] <styles> Jordan_U, yeah
[06:36] <styles> it's a 1GB boot too
[06:37] <Jordan_U> Elec_A: #ubuntu-discuss or #ubuntu-offtopic for that please as it's not a support question.
[06:37] <Kartagis> thanks Jordan_U
[06:37] <yacc_> Elec_A, well, the whole software collection has been freshend up, so it's not only the tiny bullet points that the change log shows.
[06:37] <Jordan_U> Kartagis: You're welcome.
[06:37] <Kartagis> Jordan_U: has it always been like this?
[06:38] <Elec_A> Jordan_U: oh, Ok , Thanks. sorry about that.
[06:38] <braderhart> [Saint]: Please encourage and help users submit bugs when they encounter issues. Having them use dpkg is not a solution.
[06:38] <Jordan_U> Kartagis: It was that way for the upgrade from 12.04 to 14.04, I don't remember off the top of my head for previous LTS to LTS upgrades.
[06:40] <Jordan_U> styles: Ahh, you have a separate /boot/ partition. You can either try to debug unetbootin or we can add an entry for loop booting your Ubuntu iso manually (from your root FS, not from /boot/). Which would you prefer?
[06:40] <styles> Probably unetbootin
[06:40] <styles> I ran it from terminal to see any output and nothing
[06:40] <Jordan_U> styles: And be sure to delete the partially copied ubuntu iso, so that your /boot/ isn't staying full.
[06:41] <styles> Jordan_U, did
[06:41] <yacc_> Jordan_U, actually, it allows to select the hdd device in a later step, but the earlier page of the installation is scary.
[06:41] <Jordan_U> styles: So it said that it succeeded? You're still not telling me what happened and what problem you had.
[06:42] <styles> Jordan_U, ah ok so I removed the .iso from /boot to keep it not full.
[06:42] <styles> The unetbootin is still failing (or not copying)
[06:42] <styles> and dd didn't work either
[06:44] <Jordan_U> styles: Failing *how*? How can you tell it failed? Does it say it succeeded but create a USB drive that's not bootable? Does it freeze? Does the unetbootin window vanish without an error? Something else?
[06:44] <styles> Jordan_U, it's just stuck, never moves
[06:44] <styles> Files aren't being copied onto the drive
[06:44] <styles> I'm wondering if the drive is bad, trying to find another
[06:45] <Jordan_U> styles: How can you tell that files aren't being copied onto the drive? If it's getting "stuck" copying the squashfs, that's because the squashfs contains *all of Ubuntu root filesystem* for the Live image, it's a single file and takes up by far most of the space.
[06:46] <pksadiq> styles: Can you try right clicking the iso -> open with Disk image writer?
[06:46] <styles> Jordan_U, unetbootin's progress bar doesn't move
[06:47] <[Saint]> braderhart: If the user "just wants to install Chrome", then, it very well is a solution.
[06:47] <Jordan_U> styles: That's because unetbootin's progress bar is a horrible UI failure. That's what always happens, when it's working "correctly".
[06:47] <styles> humm
[06:48] <ABC-XYZ> Hi, i'm running Ubuntu GNOME 16.04; with the inclusion of GNOME Software I was hoping GNOME's app folders would be working: whilst there are 2 pre-defined app folders, and the UI seems to be there in GNOME Software, it just doesn't add any of the required dconf keys.. Anyone got this working?
[06:48] <Jordan_U> styles: The progress bar only goes farther after another "file" has been copied, which is a U.I. failure because every LiveCD image has a lot of very small files and one relatively gigantic squashfs image.
[06:48] <braderhart> [Saint]: I'm sorry but I disagree. First, if you use dpkg to install chrome then you have to run a sudo apt-get -f install after because it doesn't handle dependencies. The new Gnome Software is supposed to work like the Ubuntu Software Center did. So first step is to encourage user to confirm the bug which already exist. That is how things get fixed.
[06:49] <athend_> Hi. I'm using trusty and my screen just froze indefinitely so I couldn't even see the running processes or what caused it. I waited for about 20 minutes before I hit the reset button. This is the first time it has happened. Any idea what may have caused it?
[06:49] <braderhart> [Saint]: It's not helping Linux users have a positive experience when you insist that a workaround is the only way to get things done.
[06:49] <Blue1> athend_: yeah it wants something like libindicator
[06:49] <styles> Jordan_U, so it's running again.. extracting bootloader configuration is (step 2) anod nothing has moved
[06:49] <styles> I'll just wait
[06:49] <[Saint]> braderhart: you're looking at a solution to the problem as a whole, which is admirable, I was looking at the users current problem with a mind to fixing it _right now_.
[06:50] <[Saint]> In and of itself, a bug report is not a soliton to the user who wants Chrome installed _now_.
[06:50] <[Saint]> bah - spelling.
[06:50] <yacc_> "post installation trigger for update-notifier-common" seems to take very long, is that normal?
[06:50] <Jordan_U> styles: That's not an area where I expect it to hang. While we're waiting for that to succeed or fail, why not work on manually adding the iso to your boot menu?
[06:50] <athend_> Blue1: can I get that package using apt?
[06:51] <[Saint]> braderhart: I never did as you claimed, either.
[06:51] <[Saint]> Just saying.
[06:51] <[Saint]> I didn't once say it was his only option, just an option.
[06:51] <Blue1> athend_: usually doing a sudo apt-get -f install will fix the dependancy issues with chrome.
[06:52] <styles> Jordan_U, sure let's go ahead and try that then
[06:52] <styles> It's still stuck
[06:52] <athend_> Blue1 wait, I never mentioned that I was using Chrome
[06:52] <Jordan_U> styles: http://www.supergrubdisk.org/wiki/Loopback.cfg#How_do_you_use_a_loopback.cfg_to_boot_an_iso.3F
[06:52] <athend_> I had two tabs open on Firefox when the freeze happened
[06:53] <Blue1> athend_: the dependancies are in the repo - that should fix the issue
[06:53] <Blue1> I am going to try to upgrade kubuntu 14.04 to 16.04 --
[06:54] <Jordan_U> Blue1: Best to wait for 16.04.1 to be released, at which point the LTS to LTS upgrade will actually be supported.
[06:54] <Blue1> Jordan_U: Thanks - I will do that.
[06:54] <Jordan_U> Blue1: You're welcome.
[06:55] <braderhart> [Saint]: I read through the convo and he made it clear that he wanted to use the default file handler (aka Ubuntu/Gnome Software) to install. I don't want to bicker about it but it looked to me that you made some jokes saying it depends on how much you want to install the .deb file and that. That he just wants a fancy GUI wrapper. Then that it is apparently
[06:55] <braderhart> broken on his system and that you don't care for that. That you gave him a valid fix and that is it.
[06:56] <styles> Jordan_U, is there a smaller iso that isn't 1GB or w/e for rescue mode?
[06:56] <styles> My boot is ~800 mb
[06:56] <[Saint]> For a guy that doesn't want to bicker, you sure do a lot of talking about things that aren't in dispute.
[06:56] <braderhart> [Saint]: If you really want to contribute to the open source movement and helping users, then you will try to find better ways to communicate and help with issues. Like, for example, helping someone search and find a bug on Launchpad so that they can confirm it.
[06:57] <Jordan_U> [Saint]: braderhart: Please take this discussion elsewhere (or at least discontinue it here).
[06:57] <braderhart> Jordan_U: Certainly
[06:58] <Jordan_U> styles: Not really, no. Do you have any questions about the guide I linked to?
[06:58] <styles> Jordan_U, no it makes sense
[06:59] <|ZNC|MiniVorap> Hello!
[07:00] <|ZNC|MiniVorap> I have a question
[07:01] <Jordan_U> styles: When you're done if you pastebin your /boot/grub/custom.cfg I can check it for you.
[07:02] <|ZNC|MiniVorap> I have a ubuntu server that runs a vpn. I need to run a command that starts the vpn client on the machine everytime it boots. I don't have physical access to the machine so I have to get it right the first time
[07:02] <|ZNC|MiniVorap> I have ssh access to the box
[07:03] <braderhart> |ZNC|MiniVorap: Does it run the VPN service or just connects via a client on the server?
[07:04] <|ZNC|MiniVorap> It just connects
[07:04] <|ZNC|MiniVorap> The command is netvirt-agent
[07:04] <|ZNC|MiniVorap> and that starts the vpn client
[07:05] <Leoneof> hello, is there Ubuntu Testing ?
[07:06] <Jordan_U> Leoneof: Not in the sense of Debian Testing, no.
[07:06] <|ZNC|MiniVorap> braderhart: I have tried to google but I can't find it for ubuntu
[07:08] <Jordan_U> styles: I think it's safe to give up on unetbootin at this point.
[07:08] <Leoneof> Jordan_U: thanks
[07:09] <Jordan_U> Leoneof: You're welcome.
[07:09] <Evangelion> Hâllo
[07:10] <braderhart> |ZNC|MiniVorap: This is it, yeah? https://www.dynvpn.com/download/
[07:10] <|ZNC|MiniVorap> Yeapp
[07:11] <|ZNC|MiniVorap> braderhart: It is, yes
[07:11] <styles> Jordan_U, I can't find another drive :(
[07:12] <braderhart> |ZNC|MiniVorap: I'm looking for some instructions now at how to autoconnect to the VPN from command line. I'm used to using Network Manager.
[07:12] <|ZNC|MiniVorap> Ah, okay
[07:12] <|ZNC|MiniVorap> braderhart: Could you link me?
[07:12] <Jordan_U> styles: The whole point of loop booting is that you don't need another drive.
[07:13] <House> does anyone have sssd+AD working with autofs for smb mounts?
[07:13] <Jordan_U> styles: Keep the iso file where it is, on your root filesystem.
[07:13] <styles> Ah ok
[07:14] <syth> https://youtu.be/AVl1LCx78ls
[07:17] <tataout> Hi guys, i run into a problem, the samba update from 4.1.6 broke the configuration of my clients under Ubuntu 14.04. I'm using winbind to authenticate users against a microsoft Active Directory 2008R2 and pam_mount_conf.xml to mount remote cifs shares as homedirs but since the samba update the shares are not mounted at login. Someone have an idea ? :)
[07:18] <Jordan_U> syth: Please don't post such links to #ubuntu. As they are not related to Ubuntu support they are considered spam.
[07:22] <Guest65740> normally how much disk partions should be allocated to ubuntu/swap?
[07:23] <lotuspsychje> !swap | Guest65740
[07:24] <Guest65740> lotuspsychje: so how much space? i am now going to install...
[07:25] <lotuspsychje> Guest65740: the ubuntu setup will auto partition for you if you like
[07:26] <lotuspsychje> Guest65740: or do you have a specific reason to manual partition?
[07:27] <Guest65740> lotuspsychje: is this for all Ubuntu based distros? mint etc.
[07:27] <lotuspsychje> Guest65740: mint is not supported here mate
[07:27] <lotuspsychje> Guest65740: we can only help you for official ubuntu flavors
[07:28] <BlessJah> Guest65740: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq#How_much_swap_do_I_need.3F
[07:29] <Jordan_U> styles: I'm going to sleep in 10 minutes.
[07:29] <styles> Jordan_U, I can't actually get this working :(
[07:29] <Jordan_U> styles: What problem are you having?
[07:29] <styles> I'm noticing that I do have to move this because it's in an encrypted home dir atm
[07:29] <styles> So I'm moving it to /root and trying it
[07:30] <styles> I don't wanna goof up my grub.cfg blah
[07:30] <Jordan_U> styles: It's hard to "goof up" your custom.cfg in such a way that would prevent you from booting (and you shouldn't be touching your grub.cfg at all).
[07:31] <styles> http://pastebin.com/S5zR8X0C
[07:31] <styles> that's what I came up w/
[07:31] <Jordan_U> styles: Looks good.
[07:31] <styles> that's the whole custom.cfg file
[07:32] <Jordan_U> styles: Great. Reboot and try it.
[07:34] <slaffe> hm, is there any software you can stream your local mp3s from your server to your smartphone?
[07:34] <slaffe> and change the songs from a playlist in the phone?
[07:34] <somsip> slaffe: depends on your server, depends on your smartphone, and this belongs in #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:34] <slaffe> thanks
[07:35] <newbie|4> What is the command again when you get a partial upgrade because your wife shuts down the fuse box in the middle?
[07:35] <newbie|4> and you need to fix it
[07:36] <BlessJah> lotuspsychje: is there any particular reason which stops you from helping with problem on ubuntu-based distro that is not specific to that distro?
[07:36] <EriC^^> newbie|4: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[07:36] <newbie|4> EriC^^: Thx
[07:36] <newbie|4> that's the one
[07:36] <EriC^^> newbie|4: np
[07:37] <styles> Jordan_U: hey so grub didn't show up
[07:37] <styles> I'm on another laptop, but Ubuntu did boot again
[07:37] <tasos> hello friends! :)
[07:37] <lotuspsychje> BlessJah: i never said he cant get any support
[07:37] <lotuspsychje> BlessJah: he asked if its the same on mint, and informed him we dont support mint
[07:38] <yacc> When we are at it, grub does not show up in 16.04 if I have my USB3 hub (with 2 hdds behind it) connected, ...
[07:38] <newbie|4> EriC^^: It's really messed up.  The background is no more and when I try "software updater", nothing happens
[07:38] <Jordan_U> styles: Add "timeout=10" to the top of your custom.cfg.
[07:38] <styles> yacc: dang I had it setup too
[07:38] <Jordan_U> styles: (without the quotes)
[07:38] <nindustries> Hi guys, so I have a repo key signature that can't get verified. How do I find out what entry it is?
[07:39] <styles> Jordan_U: did and rebooting
[07:39] <yacc> styles, ?
[07:39] <styles> I also removed the USB drive
[07:39] <styles> I had a USB drive plugged in I noticed
[07:39] <nindustries> W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net trusty InRelease: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY D834D91FA49CCDDB
[07:39] <styles> Jordan_U: no luck :(
[07:39] <styles> still boots normal
[07:39] <tasos> I installed ubuntu 16.04 server.. but  can't connect , why ?
[07:39] <tasos> via ssh
[07:40] <Jordan_U> styles: Please pastebin the current contents of your /boot/grub/custom.cfg , and double check that the path is correct.
[07:40] <yacc> And 16.04 seems to be ridiculously unresponsive, the xchat-gnome window turns to gray for a second once a minute, just because I'm restoring data to the root fs?
[07:40] <styles> kk
[07:41] <lotuspsychje> yacc: xchat is no longer maintained
[07:41] <lotuspsychje> yacc: use hexchat instead, or another irc client
[07:41] <yacc> lotuspsychje, well, the terminal turns gray too, just not as often :(
[07:41] <yacc> lotuspsychje, firefox too.
[07:42] <styles> Jordan_U: http://pastebin.com/pjBNDwFj
[07:42] <yacc> lotuspsychje, you basically focused on the most irrelevant detail of my observation.
[07:42] <Jordan_U> yacc: Background writeback has been a problem for the linux kernel since forever, and is finally going to be (hopefully) fixed soon, but not in Ubuntu 16.04: http://lwn.net/Articles/682582/
[07:42] <styles> I'm trying to hurry so you don't have to leave :P
[07:42] <yacc> Jordan_U, 14.04 managed it much better.
[07:43] <Jordan_U> styles: timeout=10 needs to be outside the menu entry, for example as the first line of the file.
[07:43] <styles> Jordan_U: ah
[07:44] <styles> fixed and rebooting
[07:44] <styles> Still just a black screen
[07:44] <styles> Then it boots normal
[07:44] <yacc> Actually, 16.04 Live managed it better, because I could backup the old root fs quite nicely. (ok, that was using dd, while now I'm using cp to select what files to restore, so 16.04 without many filesystem accesses has no issues either)
[07:44] <Jordan_U> styles: Is the screen black for 10 seconds?
[07:45] <styles> Yeah
[07:46] <Jordan_U> styles: OK, so you're just not seeing the grub menu. Have you ever seen the grub menu on this installation?
[07:46] <styles> I think I have since 16.04.
[07:47] <styles> I know I did prior to it every time
[07:48] <Jordan_U> styles: If you press the escape key during that 10 seconds does the grub menu show?
[07:49] <styles> Nope
[07:49] <styles> I'll try again though
[07:49] <styles> Bah it does
[07:50] <styles> Ok I'm booting in trial mode
[07:50] <yacc> styles, pressing keys at the right moment through the boot process is a tricky proposition ;)
[07:50] <styles> yacc: it just always showed I'm embarrassed :(
[07:50] <styles> Jordan_U: yep both monitors show
[07:51] <styles> So it's clearly something with my installation that's goofy.
[07:51] <Jordan_U> styles: OK. Please pastebin the output of "dmesg" and the contents of /var/log/Xorg.0.log from the live session so that we can compare it to the previous pastes from the non working install.
[07:53] <styles> Jordan_U: patsebin.com/RWJ4Uibu
[07:54] <styles> http://pastebin.com/RWJ4Uibu
[07:57] <everson> Hi, I'm running 140.04 LTS, using Chrome, with AdBlock extension installed. Recently my AdBlock was updated (to 2.56), which resulted in a popup warning about AdBlock's new policy resulting in privacy concerns (and Chrome asked me whether I wanted to disable it). Can anyone comment on how risky it is to re-enable AdBlock? Thanks.
[07:59] <styles> everson: uBlock
[07:59] <styles> AdBlock has sucked for a while
[07:59] <Wulf> everson: right, don't use adblock anymore
[07:59] <|ZNC|MiniVorap> Okay, so I've ran into a bit of a problem, when i run visudo and save the sudoers file, it saved but as sudoers.tmp
[07:59] <everson> Ah ok good to know
[08:00] <NoModeNo> Hello! I can't run an edubuntu 14.04.4 livecd because video crashes into striped-blurred-screen even if i set nomodeset and/or vga=normal into booting parameters. Any idea?
[08:00] <Jordan_U> |ZNC|MiniVorap: Did you exit the editor or just save and leave it open?
[08:00] <tataout> Hi guys, i run into a problem, the samba update from 4.1.6 broke the configuration of my clients under Ubuntu 14.04. I'm using winbind to authenticate users against a microsoft Active Directory 2008R2 and pam_mount_conf.xml to mount remote cifs shares as homedirs but since the samba update the shares are not mounted at login. Someone have an idea ? :)
[08:00] <alkisg> Wulf, styles, I'm using adblock without issues on firefox, any links to explain why adblock sucks?
[08:01] <|ZNC|MiniVorap> Jordan_U: I saved it and closed it. and the changes didn't take effect
[08:01] <styles> alkisg: just google around. uBlock is faster, open source via git. (uBlock Origin specifically). I think AdBlock was also enabling ad networks that paid them (you can disable it, but it's just enabled by default)
[08:02] <|ZNC|MiniVorap> Jordan_U: What I want to do is user ALL=(ALL:ALL) NOPASSWD:/usr/bin/netvirt-agent
[08:02] <styles> github*
[08:02] <Jordan_U> NoModeNo: Have you tried a 16.04 LiveCD/USB?
[08:03] <styles> Jordan_U: any ideas? :(
[08:03] <Backspace^_^> no
[08:03] <DiamondSword> hello, why ubuntu software center doesn't work for me? I'm on 16.04 and I cannot install VLC via Software Center. what might be the problem?
[08:03] <alkisg> styles: adblock plus is also on github: https://github.com/adblockplus
[08:03] <Ben64> DiamondSword: is there an error?
[08:03] <alkisg> styles: And of course open source, gpl3
[08:03] <DiamondSword> when I click on "Install" it attempts to install but nothing happens then, not asking me sudo password..
[08:04] <pelle_> hi! could someone enlighten me abit, i got this new monitor yesterday, i connected it and it works as its supposed to (got another screen connected aswell they both work) However i cant change wallpaper on my new screen, its like the old screen is still mounted or something, how do i get past this?
[08:04] <DiamondSword> Ben64, error? where can I see errors while installing software from the Software center?
[08:04] <Ben64> DiamondSword: try in the terminal... "sudo apt-get install vlc"
[08:05] <DiamondSword> Ben64, what about vlc-plugin? should I add it to the cmd also?
[08:06] <Ben64> if you like
[08:06] <NoModeNo> Jordan_U: No, I had no option. Are there any boot parameters that I can explore to prevent video driver crash?
[08:06] <Jordan_U> NoModeNo: What do you mean by "I had no option"?
[08:07] <NoModeNo> NoModeNo: No internet available at the moment.
[08:07] <NoModeNo> Jordan_U: I got no internet available.
[08:08] <everson> styles, thanks :)
[08:08] <DiamondSword> Ben64, plugin for firefox?
[08:09] <Ben64> DiamondSword: browser-plugin-vlc
[08:09] <DiamondSword> ok then
[08:09] <DiamondSword> thank you
[08:10] <Ben64> uh ok, guess it worked?
[08:11] <Jordan_U> styles: That is still loading vesafb, so I guess that isn't part of the problem. It isn't however giving the error about mode setting not being supported. I'm not sure what to try next from here.
[08:11] <newsalor> Hello, I just upgraded from the last LTS to 16.04 on my Lenovo Yoga ultrabook. Wifi stopped working. I'm using my phone to access the interwebs via USB. I can enable or disable WIFI and I don't get any error messages on that front, but I can't seem to see any networks around. Any ideas on where to start unpacking this?
[08:11] <styles> Jordan_U: dang
[08:11] <wyoung> newsalor: oh noes!
[08:11] <styles> What's the mode setting line you're seeing? Maybe I can google around
[08:12] <wyoung> newsalor: you may need to install another package or a third party one to add in support, depending if the issue is driver / kernel module related
[08:12] <Jordan_U> styles: "drm report modesetting isn't supported."
[08:12] <wyoung> newsalor: what does dmesg, /var/log/syslog and lspci say?
[08:13] <styles> never again AMD anything .. intel / nvidia going forward :(
[08:15] <[Saint]> Not a lot to fault in the Xeon CPUs.
[08:15] <wyoung> styles: I like AMD, I hate ATI, since AMD bought ATI I have mixed feelings towards AMD videocards, I prefer NVIDIA :)
[08:15] <roxer> hi! I just installed 16.04 and my mouse is really sensitive. according to https://help.ubuntu.com/16.04/ubuntu-help/mouse-sensitivity.html i should adjust it att mouse & touchpad under systemsettings however for me only primarybutton and doubleclick is available. Any ideas?
[08:15] <wyoung> [Saint]: I like AES acceleration
[08:15] <styles> wyoung: they also seem to jsut work better for linux
[08:15] <wyoung> styles: ATI have always produced decent hardware but the drivers were terrible and buggy
[08:16] <therue2> what's the software for windows that allows you to remove or add grub or grub 2?
[08:16] <pelle_> hi! could someone enlighten me abit, i got this new monitor yesterday, i connected it and it works as its supposed to (got another screen connected aswell they both work) However i cant change wallpaper on my new screen, its like the old screen is still mounted or something, how do i get past this? xrandr output if that helps: http://pastebin.com/UW9utsHT
[08:16] <wyoung> styles: NVIDIA make ok hardware (more expensive than AMD / ATI) but their drivers are rock solid with little bugs (I have run into a couple but they were easy to fix)
[08:16] <styles> yeah
[08:16] <styles> 100% agree
[08:17] <wyoung> therue2: fdisk, just wipe the MBR
[08:18] <wyoung> therue2: unless you are using GPT
[08:18] <[Saint]> I think Xeons have generally been the goto for those who wanted decent performance without having to sell off a kidney.
[08:18] <[Saint]> Especially if you're got a dozen sockets to populate.
[08:18] <wyoung> [Saint]: for servers perhaps
[08:18] <therue2> well i used to use mbr/bios install , but this time since i upgraded to windows10, it's uefi now
[08:18] <[Saint]> yeah - that is my use case indeed.
[08:18] <therue2> so i tried to install linux with uefi/secure boot
[08:18] <therue2> now my boot is all messed up
[08:19] <therue2> since i didn't do it right properly
[08:19] <therue2> so eventhough i deleted linux partition
[08:19] <R0b1nH00d4> Hello! My Update-manager dont show me the Ubuntu 16 LTS update. Im only Up to date with 14... I Use the Desktop Ubuntu
[08:19] <therue2> the grub2 partition is still there
[08:19] <wyoung> therue2: is it a pure efi disc? or is it backwards compatibile with bios?
[08:19] <styles> Jordan_U: I cant' find anything helpful. I only see references to recompiling the kernel with support for AMD built in. I can't imagine that has anything to do with this. Any ideas where I should go from here?
[08:19] <therue2> i made a usb install disc
[08:20] <therue2> with USBWriter
[08:23] <lkeijser> morning
[08:24] <lkeijser> I would like to disable mysql-* from auto-updating. If I add this to my /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/50unattended-upgrades , is that correct:  http://dpaste.com/2MZ6ZCY  ?
[08:25] <DiamondSword> Ben64, I have this now :(  https://gist.github.com/anonymous/b97b620a8e6341ad1c41669cf0decab4
[08:25] <DiamondSword> what about it, I cannot understand.. I have just installed 16.04
[08:25] <lkeijser> or should it be  "mysql-*"  ?
[08:26] <jack123> hi all
[08:26] <jack123> if I have less than 25 GB of hard disk space, then can I install 16.04 LTS on my machine?
[08:29] <newsalor> wyoung: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/56238515/lspci_16.04_WIFI_trouble
[08:29] <Ben64> DiamondSword: seems like you got some weird stuff going on
[08:29] <newsalor> wyoung: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/56238515/dmesg_16.04_WIFI_trouble
[08:30] <newsalor> wyoung: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/56238515/syslog_16.04_WIFI_trouble
[08:30] <DiamondSword> Ben64, what do you advise to me?
[08:30] <streulma> hello, if I boot ubuntu on an old Mac, then I get low graphics. It's an NVidia 7300GT
[08:31] <salah> Hi. So I tried to install Ubuntu (15.10 or 16.04) on my Dell laptop. However, after the installation, I need to have the USB stick on to be able to boot into Ubuntu. Somehow Ubuntu installs grub into the memory stick. Any ideas why and how to fix this?
[08:32] <styles> How can I reinstall the open source AMD/ATI driver?
[08:32] <Ben64> DiamondSword: what is the output of "apt-cache policy vlc libgles1-mesa libgles2-mesa libgles1 libgles2"
[08:32] <Backspace^_^> that's shit
[08:34] <DiamondSword> Ben64, https://gist.github.com/anonymous/0f0dfb7091e4620e8d7c61d16dc4234a
[08:35] <Ben64> DiamondSword: sudo apt-get install libgles2-mesa
[08:36] <DiamondSword> Ben64, The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[08:36] <DiamondSword>  libgles2-mesa : Depends: libglapi-mesa (= 11.2.0-1ubuntu1) but 11.2.0-1ubuntu2 is to be installed
[08:36] <DiamondSword> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[08:36] <Ben64> DiamondSword: looks like you need a "sudo apt-get update"
[08:37] <DiamondSword> Ben64, same message after sudo update..
[08:37] <rocket42> #kernelnewbies
[08:37] <Ben64> DiamondSword: "sudo apt-get update", then do "apt-cache policy libgles2-mesa"
[08:38] <hama> hi
[08:38] <DiamondSword> Ben64, https://gist.github.com/anonymous/8f48513af18976b514bf716b21241a2c
[08:40] <Ben64> DiamondSword: then you need to find a better mirror
[08:41] <DiamondSword> I guess so, yes
[08:42] <mia_> Hey all
[08:43] <mia_> how can I adjust mouse wheel speed in ubuntu
[08:43] <hama> hi
[08:43] <mia_> I could not find the setting in ubuntu settings
[08:43] <hama> come to me
[08:45] <virgosun> hi
[08:46] <virgosun> i've upgrade from 15.10 to 16.04, nvidia 352 not work, how to install nvidia 352
[08:46] <virgosun> i've upgrade from 15.10 to 16.04, nvidia 362 not work, how to install nvidia 352
[08:46] <Ben64> what video card
[08:46] <DiamondSword> Ben64, I'll always use Main Server from now on.
[08:46] <virgosun> gt940m
[08:46] <DiamondSword> thank you for the help.
[08:46] <Ben64> DiamondSword: np
[08:47] <k1l_> virgosun: the nvidia-352 package links to the 361 nvidia on xenial
[08:47] <Ben64> virgosun: good news! nvidia 362 works on your card
[08:47] <virgosun> nop
[08:47] <virgosun> black screen
[08:47] <k1l_> virgosun: make sure "linux-generic" is installed
[08:47] <Ben64> well the problem isn't the version. maybe you have dual gpus or something else weird going on. going to a different version of nvidia is not going to fix this problem
[08:48] <kira> hi
[08:48] <virgosun> 352 work with 15.10 man
[08:48] <kira> kernel header are missing in linux
[08:48] <spikebike> virgosun: nvidia-361 works well for me on ubuntu-16.04
[08:48] <kira> unable to install
[08:48] <virgosun> it is primus
[08:48] <k1l_> kira: what ubuntu are you on?
[08:48] <k1l_> virgosun: is "linux-generic" installed?
[08:49] <virgosun> spikebike; what card is your
[08:49] <spikebike> virgosun: umm, not sure exactly, it's at work I'm at home, I think ti's a gtx 750 or so
[08:50] <spikebike> ah, lspci say 650
[08:50] <quietone_> hi, just did a fresh install of 16.04 and it boots to a completely black screen, consoles are black too.
[08:50] <spikebike> quietone_: skylake cpu?
[08:50] <virgosun> linux-generic is already the newest version (4.4.0.21.22).
[08:50] <k1l_> quietone_: nvidia card?
[08:50] <quietone_> spikebike, AMD
[08:51] <k1l_> virgosun: ok, then look at Xorg.0.log at /var/log/ what is going wrong
[08:51] <quietone_> we don't know about the video card.
[08:51] <virgosun> gtx is quite different, is it dedicated, while gt share internal bus
[08:51] <Afdla> Upgrade from 15.10 to 16.04 gives me some MySQL error "Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)"
[08:52] <lkeijser> Afdla: is mysql still running? if not, check error log
[08:52] <virgosun> no thing wrong, swith to novouve work
[08:52] <virgosun> I want propriety, primus switchable
[08:53] <Afdla> lkeijser: does not seem to be running
[08:53] <k1l_> virgosun: facts would actually help solve the issue. see or provide the logs from the failed boot.
[08:53] <lkeijser> Afdla: check error log messages then
[08:53] <virgosun> ok wait
[08:53] <newsalor> wyoung: rfkill confirms that ideapad_wlan isn't blocked.
[08:53] <lkeijser> Afdla: or do service mysql start and watch output
[08:54] <quietone_> hmm, after 10 minutes we have a console.
[08:54] <quietone_> the video card is Radeon 6620G
[08:54] <Afdla> in /var/log/ files mysql.err and mysql.log are empty
[08:54] <k1l_> quietone_: amd dropped support for the fglrx. so there one needs to use the new amd kernel driver since 16.04
[08:55] <quietone_> partner is logging in via unity now.
[08:55] <Afdla> Failed to start mysql.service: Unit mysql.service is masked.
[08:55] <quietone_> k1l_, what is fglrx?
[08:56] <soee> guys the LTS upgrade notifications show up after 16.04.1 release no?
[08:56] <k1l_> quietone_: that was the propriatary amd driver. now its a open source kernel driver called amd_gpu
[08:56] <k1l_> !ltsupgrade | soee
[08:56] <Afdla> is this safe to run: "systemctl unmask mysql.service # Emables the service for systemd"
[08:56] <noonien> hello!
[08:57] <noonien> is there any way of booting ubuntu diskless over pxe?
[08:57] <cristnn> k1l_ is a pedophile - he is know on other sites. DONT give him ANY personal info. Unfortunately there are many pedophiles who work as mods here, and help each other. k1l_ is a pedophile
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[08:57] <cristnn> .,.,.k1l_ is a pedophile - he is know on other sites. DONT give him ANY personal info. Unfortunately there are many pedophiles who work as mods here, and help each other. k1l_ is a pedophile
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[08:57] <noonien> I'm only interested in getting the network interface up and having a ssh server running with my ssh key.
[08:57] <spikebike> noonien: you can netboot ubuntu
[08:57] <spikebike> and yes ubuntu can be configured to be diskless
[08:59] <wildc4rd> any idea why xchat was dropped on 16.04? been using it for years...
[08:59] <Ben64> it's been depreciated for years, try hexchat
[08:59] <wildc4rd> thats what I am on now
[08:59] <pelle__> anyone that can shed some light on this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2321334&p=13474471#post13474471 ?
[09:00] <josspyker> xchat still rocks
[09:00] <noonien> spikebike: hmm, i've been looking for documentation into doing this and all I could find was this: https://github.com/korylprince/ubuntu-pxe
[09:00] <squeakyneb> hey I don't suppose anyone knows off the top of their head what version of ubuntu started using an rm that required '--no-preserve-root'? Like, when did 'rm -rf /' stop working?
[09:00] <noonien> But for some reason, after booting, I can't use the keyboard.
[09:01] <spikebike> noonien: I'd use a distro designed for diskless if you want turnkey
[09:01] <spikebike> noonien: or just buy a $5 thumb drive and use a live cd
[09:02] <TJ-> noonien: are you saying that after the complete PXE boot has got to userspace there's no keyboard input? Also, what connection does the keyboard use - i8042 (Ps/2), USB, SPI ?
[09:03] <noonien> spikebike: well, i'm trying to get a small ubuntu-based distro booting over pxe to about 90 machines so I can do maintanence on all of them at once
[09:03] <TJ-> noonien: I've never had issues with PXE boot, even in the initrd/busybox, unless there was a USB keyboard and I'd not added the USB HID drivers into the initrd's modules list
[09:03] <noonien> that's why I only need a ssh server runnnig
[09:03] <spikebike> noonien: I've done that but it's somewhat painful
[09:03] <Afdla> wow this upgrade really messed up my mysql
[09:04] <noonien> TJ-: perhaps the rootfs i've mounted into ram doesn't have the right modules, I'm using a remote console provided by the blade system
[09:04] <AuroraAvenue_> I don't think my 16.04 fully installed.
[09:04] <spikebike> noonien: there's a bunch of ways to do it, minimizing admin work isn't really a justification though, any sane configuration management will ensure they are the same
[09:04] <bq> can i apt-get parallel?
[09:04] <spikebike> noonien: but I recommend a read only /, and a per machine /var
[09:05] <TJ-> noonien: that is most likely it, it sounds like the chassis console may provide the console input over a non-standard connection, maybe even serial?
[09:05] <spikebike> autofs, nfs, etc.
[09:05] <noonien> spikebike: well, currently I need to get the specs of all machines to make sure that they match, and then drop a windows image on the disks.
[09:05] <noonien> since theres too many machines to do individually, I'm multicasting with udpcast
[09:05] <gshmu> http://img.vim-cn.com/73/dc7f34ad68f7790c725b4c2689d0b068fe485b.png    Why the update is gray?
[09:06] <spikebike> *shudder*
[09:06] <gshmu> I want update to 16.04 from cd...
[09:06] <spikebike> I did 150 linux boxes no problem, it's not a big deal, and no need for multicast
[09:06] <noonien> yeah, that doesn't really matter tough, if I can't get the pxe client to start the ssh server
[09:07] <spikebike> noonien: pxe is just a dhcp, and tftp o kernel and initrd
[09:07] <spikebike> not really related to starting ssh or not
[09:07] <TJ-> noonien: are you using openssh or dropbear for SSHd ?
[09:07] <noonien> spikebike: sorry, what I ment was getting a ssh server on the machines i've booted over pxe
[09:07] <noonien> TJ-: openssh
[09:08] <TJ-> noonien: OK, so are you mounting the rootfs via NFS ?
[09:08] <spikebike> noonien: get a console and check systemd/ssh*service* or whatever it's called
[09:08] <noonien> but I can't reach the machine over ping either, so I'm guessing the interface isn't getting enabled
[09:08] <noonien> TJ-: I've used this guide to get so far: https://github.com/korylprince/ubuntu-pxe
[09:09] <spikebike> noon ya, it's a bit tricky
[09:09] <spikebike> network setup for pxe/tftp is independ of network post boot
[09:10] <noonien> the rootfs was created with cpio, which is extracted into a ramfs, which is then mounted as root by initrd
[09:10] <JJ_> Ok, so 16.04 is out. I burnt a DVD and ran the disk live..  i cannot connect to the internet through my ethernet connection, I do not have wireless.. so this is not a issue with wifi. The ethernet connection simply will not connect.. I have googled all around and wondering if this is a bug in Ubuntu atm
[09:10] <ImJune> anyone using unity 8?
[09:10] <spikebike> so you have to setup network and pivot root in the initrd, because you can't read / yet
[09:10] <noonien> spikebike: PXE is fully working
[09:10] <spikebike> noonien: right, that's half the battle
[09:10] <newsalor> wyoung: lspci -nnk shows that there is nothing with the PCI class code 0280...
[09:10] <noonien> the ubuntu client is booting correctly, just that the keyboard and nic don't seem to be working
[09:10] <noonien> I'm using https://github.com/danderson/pixiecore
[09:11] <spikebike> noonien: that's classis for not having the right drives loaded in the initrd
[09:11] <spikebike> drivers
[09:11] <noonien> i've booted both memtest and coreos without issues, so the pxe is not the problem
[09:11] <spikebike> you have to get all modules loaded inside the initrd before you can talk to network + nfs for the rest
[09:11] <JJ_> so can anyone tell me why my network isn't working in 16.04?
[09:12] <spikebike> noonien: right, it's a pain in the ass, thus the suggestion for using something designed to be diskless
[09:12] <Apachez> how does the maintainer thingy works with ubuntu?
[09:12] <newsalor> JJ_: WLAN?
[09:12] <noonien> spikebike: I'll try to interrupt initrd to see what happens
[09:12] <Apachez> im curious about how uck made it into official repos while it doesnt work at all
[09:12] <JJ_> newsalor: no, it's a normal lan connection.. a ethernet connection
[09:12] <spikebike> noonien: yeah I'd just make a new one and spit lsmod, ifconfig, and anyting lese you can think of to stdout
[09:12] <spikebike> boot, debug, tweak initrd, repeat
[09:12] <noonien> spikebike: i've been looking for something diskless, gonna look some more, maybe i'll find something, wanted to check here first
[09:13] <Afdla> I'm upgrading from 15.10 to 16.04. It just asked if I want to replace some grub file. Went full yolo and replaced it with the package maintainers version. Let's see if this thing will boot ever again
[09:13] <JJ_> newsalor:  any ideas?
[09:13] <AuroraAvenue_> Whenever I try to install a PPA I get: " sh: 1: /usr/lib/uberstudent/uberstudentSources/uberstudent.py not found | I installed ontop of Uberstudent - How do I add the PPA, then ?
[09:14] <spikebike> I'd remove uberstudent first
[09:14] <AuroraAvenue_> how ?
[09:14] <newsalor> JJ_: No, sorry. I just upgraded to 16.04 and my WLAN stopped working. :.(
[09:14] <josspyker> uberstudent? lol
[09:14] <spikebike> try apt purge uberstudent
[09:14] <somsip> !ppapurge | AuroraAvenue_
[09:14] <AuroraAvenue_> It says unable to loocate uberstudent.
[09:15] <JJ_> newsalor: that sucks lol  ..  i know wlan has issues, but my network card has always worked in other versions.. now when i use the live cd..  i can't get the thing to work
[09:15] <AuroraAvenue_> oh ok .. will try.
[09:16] <JJ_> so has anyone had any issues getting the network to work in 16.04 ?  i am at a loss
[09:17] <ice9> when unity 8 will be released?
[09:18] <AuroraAvenue_> I dont know whast I'm purging to install ppa:ubuntu-sdk-team/ppa
[09:18] <akik> JJ_: you could try checking "nmcli dev status" and "nmcli dev list eth0"
[09:18] <TJ-> noonien: the initrd.img you're working with; has it got an early-image prefixed to it (with microcode drivers, etc.) ? if so, the script initrd/mount_to_ram.sh will fail since it doesn't extract the second *real* initrd.img that is gzip-compressed
[09:19] <akik> JJ_: sorry the last one should be "nmcli dev list iface eth0"
[09:20] <noonien> TJ-: I believe the initrd image was generated when i installed the kernel in the chroot
[09:20] <noonien> i didn't copy it from /boot/ though, but /
[09:20] <noonien> perhaps that's the issue?
[09:20] <TJ-> noonien: just check it's type, with "file path/to/initrd.img" ... tell me what it reports
[09:20] <spikebike> noonien: the standard initrd does a small fraction of what you need
[09:21] <ubuntu-gnome> here the log http://pastebin.com/3UVsZS0Y
[09:21] <Scooty> Well custom kernel modules won't load on 16.04, ideas?
[09:21] <spikebike> might be easiest to just add storage to a node, netboot it, then manually insmod/modprobe/netconfig till you can mount /remote_root and pivort_root on to it
[09:21] <noonien> TJ-: well, the used intrd image is regenerated in build.sh
[09:21] <spikebike> then everything you did manually needs to go to in the initrd
[09:21] <TJ-> noonien: I install dropbear SSH server in the initrd itself via a hook script for update-initramfs so generally I don't need a rootfs (assuming other tools are also installed in the initrd too of course)
[09:22] <noonien> so that it has the root.img is built into it
[09:22] <JJ_> akik: what does that do? i am currently in windows because the net isn't working lol
[09:22] <spikebike> that typically involves mounting /proc, /sys, dhcp, nfs crap, some modprobes, etc.
[09:22] <TJ-> noonien: right, so likely not a prefixed microcode issue then
[09:22] <Scooty> Now with the kernel refuse to load unsigned kernel module, I'm stuck without wifi :(
[09:22] <noonien> spikebike: the initrd I have should mount a 512mb ramfs at /root, then extract /root.img into that ramfs
[09:23] <akik> JJ_: it just lists the network configuration. you can also use "nm-tool" to see the connection status of the ethernet iface
[09:23] <tataout> Hello everybody, has someone succefully downgrade the samba update from 4.3.8 to 4.1.6 ?
[09:23] <JJ_> akik: anyone else having issues connecting to the internet from lan like me?
[09:23] <michele_> hello ubuntu italia?
[09:24] <k1l_> !it | michele_
[09:24] <TJ-> noonien: why not configure the PXE boot kernel command-line so it sends the kernel console over the network so you can monitor/control it?
[09:24] <michele_> thank you
[09:24] <akik> JJ_: sorry i don't know. wired connections have been working for me
[09:24] <noonien> TJ-: what parameters would I need to send?
[09:24] <ubuntu-gnome> ple see the xorg log, apt-get purge nvinida* nolonger work
[09:25] <noonien> I'd be more interested in a login console though
[09:25] <TJ-> noonien: adjust for IP addresses of course, but something like "netconsole=@10.254.251.95/,@10.254.251.2/"
[09:25] <noonien> however, the nic isn't getting enabled either, so I don't think using the network would work
[09:26] <TJ-> noonien: first IP is that of the PXE client, 2nd is the host to send the console to
[09:26] <noonien> I don't know if the module is missing or the dhcp client isnt starting
[09:26] <spikebike> noonien: yeah, you likely need /dev mounted and a bunch of moudles loaded
[09:26] <spikebike> and dhclient
[09:26] <spikebike> which needs /var
[09:26] <spikebike> and a conf file
[09:26] <virgosun> hello
[09:26] <noonien> spikebike: i'm guessing /dev is mounted since ubuntu boots successfuly
[09:26] <virgosun> http://pastebin.com/3UVsZS0Y
[09:26] <virgosun> this is nvidia log
[09:26] <noonien> i've also installed isc-dhcp-client and enabled eth0 in /etc/network/interfaces
[09:27] <TJ-> noonien: I wrote a how-to on this several years ago but it still applies. For ensuring network device driver is available see the heading "Ensure Network Modile is Included" and "Patch to /init Script" in particular http://tjworld.net/wiki/Linux/Ubuntu/NetbootPxeLiveCDMultipleReleases#NetconsoleDebugging
[09:28] <virgosun> how to reset xconfig to intel
[09:28] <effectnet> hello good morning
[09:28] <Scooty> How to install custom drivers in ubuntu 16.04...
[09:28] <TJ-> Scooty: Disable secure-boot, or add a user Certificate into the firmware's SecureBoot certificate store, GRUB, and the kernel image
[09:29] <arq> hi ... i hope you can help me. i did not found a solution for my problem. i want to mount my usb harddrive with fstab. it works really fine if i use "mount -a" as root. but if the harddisk is mounted, other users than root have no permission to access the dir in "/media" ... if i unmount the harddisk, other user can access the dir ... can you give me a hint please, how i can fix that problem?
[09:29] <Scooty> TJ-: I'm booting efi without secureboot
[09:29] <virgosun> hey
[09:29] <TJ-> Scooty: then the module should load, even though the kernel will complain the module taints
[09:29] <virgosun> you break my system
[09:30] <Scooty> TJ-: Hmm..well let me double check. Weird thing is that I've upgraded from 15.10, without doing anything to the bios in the process then well, all my dkms drivers broke
[09:30] <Scooty> TJ: Thanks btw
[09:30] <noonien> TJ-: initrd is mounting a nfs path, perhaps i'll give that a try, does initrd have the network interfaces setup from the pxe client?
[09:31] <arq> i created the mountpoint dir with "mkdir /media/Netzlaufwerk" as root ... and after that ive set "chmod 777 /media/Netzlaufwerk" ... but it does not work ... if the harddisk is mounted, the system prompt me, that i have no permission if i not root
[09:33] <J0hnD03ii> is it possible to install Ubuntu 16.04 on a raspberry PI 3?
[09:33] <TJ-> noonien: no, you have to pass the details on the kernel command-line. See Linux's kernel-parameters.txt and related docs for the valid options
[09:33] <arq> options in fstab are "rw,users,auto"
[09:33] <noonien> TJ-: Thanks! :D
[09:34] <k1l_> J0hnD03ii: since its an ARM device you need isos specially made for this device, since it needs to have the exact drivers included already. ARM doesnt have generic drivers like PC hardware today has.
[09:34] <Scooty> TJ-: Thanks, so it WAS secure boot, magically enabled. Should it do that? :s
[09:35] <J0hnD03ii> k1l_, OK. thanks. hopefully someone creates one, 16.04 is nice.
[09:35] <TJ-> Scooty: that's down to the system firmware :) maybe a bug - we sees loads in the mobo firmware
[09:35] <Scooty> TJ-: Like, I upgraded from 15.10 then secure boot turned on itself
[09:36] <k1l_> J0hnD03ii: maybe upgrading works.
[09:36] <J0hnD03ii> I'll have a look, cheers k1l_.
[09:37] <k1l_> J0hnD03ii: maybe someone in #ubuntu-arm knows better
[09:38] <temmi_hoo> i got systemd to start my openvpn nicely and right by putting the conf file and related keys into /etc/openvpn - now how to make sure that that particular vpn configuration gets started on every boot?
[09:38] <TJ-> J0hnD03ii: see http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/xenial/release/ for the armhf+raspi2 images as a base
[09:39] <TJ-> temmi_hoo: check /etc/default/openvpn. You either list the /etc/openvpn/*.conf files you want to start, or leave the list empty to have them all started
[09:40] <temmi_hoo> oh okay thx
[09:41] <quietone_> still not sure how to fix the black screen on boot problem.
[09:42] <TJ-> quietone_: have you done the obvious "nomodeset" ?
[09:42] <pinnen> !isitoutyet
[09:43] <quietone_> TJ-, no, I don't know what that does
[09:44] <auronandace> !nomodeset | quietone_
[09:44] <TJ-> thanks auronandace :)
[09:44] <TJ-> now if only someone could add Bluetooth support into GRUB for me, the world would be happy
[09:45] <spikebike> wait for systemd to replace grub
[09:45] <spikebike> it's already got networking, dns and ntp
[09:45] <ratrace> spikebike: it already has. gummiboot
[09:45] <ratrace> or whatever it's called
[09:45] <noonien> I've dropped to a shell from initrd, just before `exec run-init` in initrd, and the keyboard still does not work
[09:45] <TJ-> spikebike: well we can, EFI boot directly to Linux doesn't need a boot loader any more
[09:45] <noonien> by this point, the keyboard should be working, right?
[09:46] <TJ-> noonien: *how* is the keyboard connected?
[09:46] <noonien> TJ-: it's a remote console provided by the blade system
[09:46] <ratrace> spikebike: oh, I see it's renamed to systemd-boot. Okay.
[09:46] <spikebike> noonien: probably need a usb module, maybe pci-e, /dev or devfs
[09:46] <spikebike> noonien: oh, usb-hib or somesuch
[09:47] <noonien> yeah, it should be an usb hid device
[09:47] <TJ-> noonien: a remote console to you... but how is the blade chassis connecting the keyboard to the blade? if it isn't the standard i8042 PS/2, or USB HID (or some weird USB) then the initrd will need the drivers, as I said earlier
[09:47] <noonien> I'd check the dmesg but I can't scroll back
[09:47] <Reptilia> Lol, the Wi-Fi isn't working in 16.04. I am booting from USB, and i am 100% sure that the password entered is correct. It won't give me a notification that the password is incorrect, but just ignore when i click "connect" and stand still.
[09:48] <TJ-> noonien: when in doubt, throw all the USB HID modules into the initrd :) That worked for me
[09:48] <michagogo> I just set /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades to Prompt=normal and ran do-release-upgrade and it's upgrading to wily...
[09:48] <michagogo> (This is on trusty)
[09:48] <noonien> TJ-: will do :D
[09:48] <michagogo> Why is it doing that and not Xenial?
[09:48] <TJ-> noonien: if you had the netconsole enabled you can control the initrd over that
[09:48] <michagogo> Also, simultaneously doing a clean install in a different VM. Why is it removing all these packages?
[09:49] <ecw> test
[09:49] <k1l_> Reptilia: what wifi chip is used? some have several different drivers and some dont really work
[09:49] <quietone_> TJ-, thanks.
[09:49] <effectnet> hey i got samba working!  i had the wrong network address for the network to serve. :D
[09:49] <noonien> TJ-: i'll try getting that up, but I don't even know if the nic module is loaded at this point, i'll do a lsmod in initrd/init to see what pops up
[09:49] <effectnet> i had to serve not the 192.168.0.255 network, but my network...
[09:50] <Reptilia> k1l_:Intel Centrino Advanced N-6200
[09:51] <OpenSorce> I'm on 14.04 is it easier to upgrade to 16.04 or just re-install it?
[09:51] <jackcom> 14.04.3 is new?
[09:51] <ikonia> OpenSorce: at the moment the upgrade path to 16.04 does not kick in until 16.04.1 is released
[09:51] <Ben64> jackcom: no
[09:51] <ratrace> OpenSorce: I've upgraded just fine
[09:51] <spikebike> OpenSorce: cpu? gpu? network card? wifi?
[09:51] <jackcom> :( then Ben64 ?
[09:51] <ngalim> jackcom, 14.04.4
[09:52] <jackcom> thanks ngalim :)
[09:52] <k1l_> Reptilia: hmm. that should have drivers in the kernel already. i have the 6205 and that works ootb
[09:52] <spikebike> my desktop + nvidia card upgraded from 14.04 to 16.04 no problem.
[09:52] <ngalim> jackcom, latest is 16.04
[09:52] <jackcom> 14.04.4 —> 16.04  why there is no 15.04?
[09:52] <michagogo> How does one upgrade from 14.04 to 16.04? Do-release-upgrade told me there's no upgrade available
[09:52] <Reptilia> k1l_:I know, it used to work perfectly with previous versions. I can't see what could cause the problem
[09:52] <Ben64> jackcom: there was/is, but it's no longer supported
[09:53] <michagogo> And when I changed it from Prompt=lts to =normal, it's trying to get Wily
[09:53] <Ben64> michagogo: well why did you change it from LTS if you want to upgrade to LTS ????
[09:53] <jackcom> oh thanks then i will use 16.04 Ben64 and ngalim :)
[09:53] <ikonia> michagogo: there is no upgrade path until 16.04.1 is released
[09:53] <OpenSorce> ikonia, thanks. spikebike all newer hardware (12 gigs or ram, 6 core cpu) except the gpu which NV 9800GTX+
[09:53] <ikonia> michagogo: at that point the 14.04 builds will start offering the upgrade
[09:53] <ngalim> jackcom, maybe better to wait till 16.04.1
[09:53] <spikebike> michagogo: if you want to risk it do-release-upgrade -d
[09:53] <michagogo> ikonia: really? I was told that it's not necessarily recommended, but that it's possible
[09:53] <ikonia> spikebike: no
[09:53] <Reptilia> k1l_:Actually, it used to work perfectly fine on the Beta version too, when i tested it 3-4 weeks ago.
[09:53] <michagogo> What's -d?
[09:53] <ikonia> spikebike: 16.04 is not the development version anymore
[09:53] <jackcom> ngalim: 16.04 is not good?
[09:53] <ikonia> michagogo: a bad option - do not use it
[09:54] <pngl> Hi! I have file transfer problems from a Ubuntu machine to a Windows client. Untunnelled FTP: 11 MB/s. SMB over VPN: 3 Mo/s. Looking for help on increasing throughput! Or is this normal?
[09:54] <spikebike> ikonia: I did that earlier today, worked fine
[09:54] <spikebike> (for me)
[09:54] <ikonia> michagogo: it forces the upgrade to the development (d) version which is unstable
[09:54] <k1l_> michagogo: its the developer switch. the LTS upgrade is for developers only so far.
[09:54] <ikonia> spikebike: good for you
[09:54] <ikonia> k1l_: that is a better way of putting it
[09:54] <spikebike> ya, thus the risk
[09:54] <michagogo> So there's no way to get a 14.04 box to 16.04?
[09:54] <spikebike> (which I mentinoed)
[09:55] <jackcom> ng when 16.04.1 is coming?
[09:55] <jackcom> ngalim: when 16.04.1 is coming?
[09:55] <k1l_> Reptilia: "cat /etc/modprobe.d/iwlwifi.con | nc termbin.com 9999"
[09:55] <k1l_> !ltsupgrade | michagogo
[09:55] <michagogo> k1l_: I got that
[09:55] <k1l_> michagogo: if one uses LTS for stableness one might to wait for july when there is more stableness on 16.04.
[09:56] <Reptilia> k1l_:Sure, but let me boot to Ubuntu again, since i am on Windows now, and i will tell you the result for 5-7 mins
[09:56] <effectnet> hmmm i can't see some files over samba, they start with ( is that bad?
[09:56] <ngalim> jackcom, scheduled for July 21st
[09:56] <michagogo> k1l_: I'm not using it necessarily for stableness in terms of the software being bug-free
[09:56] <k1l_> michagogo: if you dont want to wait you wait use the -d switch. but keep in mind that this is not suggested as LTS upgrade so far.
[09:56] <michagogo> Just for not having to upgrade every 6 months
[09:57] <jackcom> ngalim: lol too long :(
[09:57] <jackcom> i will use only 16.04
[09:57] <youbunchew> UBUNTU 16.04 LTS INSTALL PARTY
[09:57] <spikebike> michagogo: backups are suggested in case it doesn't work out, well backups are always good
[09:57] <michagogo> spikebike: I can do one better
[09:57] <michagogo> VM snapshots :-)
[09:58] <noonien> TJ-: I used the initrd from rootfs/initrd not rootfs/boot/initrd.img-..-generic
[09:58] <noonien> I think that was the problem
[09:58] <noonien> initramfs-utils builds into /boot
[09:58] <TJ-> noonien: does that mean you've got it working?
[09:58] <noonien> and i believe the initrd.img from root does not contain modules
[09:58] <noonien> TJ-: i'm booting now
[09:59]  * noonien has his fingers crossed.
[09:59] <TJ-> noonien: that would make sense, that custom build script would need to do what update-initramfs does... not sure why they didn't use that anyhow to build the image, with control variables to limit its content
[09:59] <effectnet> how do i see files that start with (      ?
[10:00] <noonien> TJ-: I chroot into the ubuntu-core rootfs, install the kernel with dpkg -i <linux-image..>, that's when the initrd image gets generated
[10:00] <TJ-> noonien: I have a RasPi3+PiDrive on my network that does the PXE/TFTP/NFS services for the lab network
[10:00] <noonien> TJ-: how do you get your key
[10:00] <noonien> nvm, you boot over nfs
[10:01] <effectnet> oh i see, heh the files are listed
[10:01] <TJ-> noonien: ahhh, so you'd need to edit /etc/initramfs-tools/modules to force some to be included that may not already be there. it depends on whether you're using the initramfs-tools 'most' 'all' or 'required' options for module inclusion
[10:01] <noonien> keyboard still not working, i'll boot a vanilla initrd with nfs, see if that works
[10:01] <noonien> i'm guessing the default is 'required'
[10:02] <noonien> and because i'm building on a different machine, the required module is not built in
[10:02] <TJ-> noonien: I have dropbear in the initrd acting as both 'server' and a client, to fetch encrpytion keys
[10:02] <noonien> ah, cool
[10:03] <boyblunder> when I install network-manager-openconnect & network-manager-openconnect-gnome, I can't get openconnect to show up in network-manager GUI -- this is on 16.04, can anyone help?
[10:03] <TJ-> noonien: so, I can ssh into the initrd, as well as have it fetch 'stuff'. I do modify /usr/share/initramfs-tools/init (the initrd init script) too to do better things for me
[10:03] <boyblunder> works fine via command line
[10:03] <TJ-> boyblunder: did you restart both network-manager.service, and possibly the nmapplet user-session GUI tool?
[10:04] <boyblunder> yes - i rebooted
[10:04] <TJ-> boyblunder: that'd do it :D
[10:05] <ratrace> TJ-: I was thinking about doing the same (have initrd fetch the enc key automatically on boot) but that kinda defeats the whole purpose and doesn't make it much different from storing hte key on disk, right?
[10:05] <TJ-> boyblunder: OK, first place to look is the extensive logging from NetworkManager in /var/log/syslog - see if there are error reports related to the underlying openconnect side. If that looks OK and NM has started that openconnect plugin, then the nmapplet should show the GUI for it, so look in $HOME/.xsession-errors for any problems on the GUI side
[10:06] <boyblunder> TJ-, ok, I'll poke around - thanks
[10:06] <TJ-> ratrace: well it does, because the RasPi acts as guardian and decides whether to return the requested key or not
[10:06] <rymate1234> Hi, I have a dual Intel / AMD graphics laptop, and I'm trying to run applications on the AMD graphics. setting the DRI_PRIME=1 variable allows me to render applications using my AMD gpu but then I get this error spam in dmesg http://paste.ubuntu.com/15978899/
[10:06] <rymate1234> this was with glxgears
[10:06] <michagogo> Okay, so the upgrade question aside, I'm also installing a new, clean Xenial VM. I see it's *removing* a lot of packages -- what's going on there? How does the process work, why does it require packages to be uninstalled? If it needs to remove them, why were they installed in the first place, since this is a clean install?
[10:07] <TJ-> ratrace: so I can implement a security policy in one place (on the RasPi). Any unexpected reboots, for example, may not work if it doesn't allow the key request
[10:07] <Extreme21355> Hey, anyone need help?
[10:07] <ratrace> TJ-: ah, that's what I Was worried about. unexpected reboots. neat.
[10:08] <boyblunder> TJ-, I found this in syslog: ** Message: vpn: (openconnect,/etc/NetworkManager/VPN/nm-openconnect-service.name) cannot load legacy-only plugin
[10:08] <TJ-> ratrace: that even helps guard against kexec reboots, although I've caught myself out when testing things having forgotten I'd blocked such things :D
[10:08] <TJ-> boyblunder: aha, you've  found the problem
[10:09] <ratrace> TJ-: I decided to go with automated login+passphrase with fabric. That way I can reboot servers en-masse and still not have passive enc key fetching like that.
[10:09] <TJ-> boyblunder: looks like several people have already reported that
[10:09] <pngl> I have an FTP question. Is it possible, using VSFTPD (or other), to let users connect "as" a local user, but with a different password? I don't want to compromise the security of the local unix user account, but I want FTP users to have the same permissions on files as the local user.
[10:09] <boyblunder> TJ-, great - is there a bug tracker link i can monitor?
[10:09] <ratrace> TJ-: login with ssh keys, and passphrase for cryptsetup
[10:10] <TJ-> boyblunder: this looks like it bug 1573090
[10:10] <boyblunder> TJ-, thanks dude!
[10:10] <kareeoleez> guys how can I install another kernel version ? Is there a tool ?
[10:11] <TJ-> boyblunder: looks like its fixed in Debian though https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=817990
[10:11] <kareeoleez> I mean I am trying to do a sudo apt-get install linux-image-4.1.22 and it fails
[10:11] <auronandace> kareeoleez: anything from outside the repositories you would have to maintain yourself
[10:11] <kareeoleez> I dont' know the names of th packages and I also need headers
[10:11] <TJ-> boyblunder: sorry, my mistake, thats the -iodine plugin suffering the same fate!
[10:11] <kareeoleez> auronandace: like  ?
[10:12] <TJ-> kareeoleez: "apt-cache search -n linux-image" will list all available kernel packages
[10:12] <auronandace> kareeoleez: why do you want a different kernel?
[10:12] <boyblunder> TJ-, hmm i wonder if something larger is amiss
[10:13] <TJ-> boyblunder: I pasted the wrong link.. read this http://www.mail-archive.com/debian-bugs-rc@lists.debian.org/msg415668.html
[10:13] <Cas> Hi all, I have 14.04 installed and trying to update to 16.04 via dev 'update-manager -d' but it keeps offering 14.10 as the upgrade, whereas screenshots of other users show 16.04 as the available upgrade??
[10:13] <kareeoleez> TJ-: there is only 3.4.0 and the current one
[10:13] <kareeoleez> auronandace: I can't make virtualbox to work with 16.04
[10:13] <kareeoleez> auronandace: dkms says it doesn't have available modules for this kernel
[10:13] <mhc> hello, where can i found the ubuntu 1604 mini.iso file?
[10:14] <TJ-> kareeoleez: which ubuntu release are you working with?
[10:14] <kareeoleez> 16.04
[10:14] <kareeoleez> so instead of installing 15.10 back where virtualbox works fine
[10:14] <kareeoleez> I would try to downgrade the kernel
[10:14] <auronandace> kareeoleez: where did you install virtualbox from?
[10:14] <J0hnD03ii> who was it who can't get wifi working?
[10:15] <kareeoleez> auronandace: sudo apt-get install virtualbox virtualbox-dkms
[10:15] <TJ-> kareeoleez: your output looks very wrong then, it should show http://paste.ubuntu.com/15979145/
[10:15] <J0hnD03ii> I just figured it out you see
[10:15] <kareeoleez> TJ-: that is what I ment, sorry
[10:15] <TJ-> kareeoleez: oh, you meant *4*.4.0 ? haha :)
[10:16] <kareeoleez> yep
[10:16] <kareeoleez> :)
[10:16] <boyblunder> TJ-, thanks for your help, I'll monitor this bug
[10:16] <J0hnD03ii> finally got ubuntu 16.04 working:)
[10:16] <TJ-> kareeoleez: so there's a VB bug possibly?
[10:16] <kareeoleez> do you have any idea or should I install 15.10 right away ?
[10:16] <nos09> i am installing gucamole. Everythign was installed fine and working over port 8080 with tomcat7. But after I installed apache2 its getting anything in browser. Although i can see tomcat listinng on port 8080, nothing comes when i try to access it.
[10:17] <auronandace> kareeoleez: can you show the output: uname -a
[10:17] <lotuspsychje> !yay | J0hnD03ii
[10:17] <kareeoleez> auronandace: it's on another machine and says 4.4.0-21-generic
[10:17] <J0hnD03ii> lotuspsychje, I had so many problems -.-
[10:17] <J0hnD03ii> time to tinker with my pi 3 :) see yas.
[10:18] <TJ-> boyblunder: the answer from that Debian thread is helpful in understanding it http://www.mail-archive.com/debian-bugs-rc@lists.debian.org/msg415759.html
[10:18] <spikebike> J0hnD03ii: hey, is your pi 3 currently running and network accessable?
[10:18] <boyblunder> TJ-, doh, should've scrolled down!
[10:18] <boyblunder> TJ-, thanks again
[10:18] <TJ-> boyblunder: oh yes :)
[10:18] <newbuntu1> i upgraded to 16.04 from 15.10,after that when i do apt-get update the output list appears very small  http://paste.ubuntu.com/15979131/
[10:18] <kareeoleez> auronandace: so is there any chance to downgrade ?
[10:18] <newbuntu1> wondering if there's an issue
[10:18] <J0hnD03ii> pi 3, no spikebike but I'm on my pi 2 right now. why?
[10:19] <Reptilia> k1l_:Are you still here?
[10:19] <k1l_> Reptilia: yep
[10:19] <auronandace> kareeoleez: downgrading is not supported
[10:19] <J0hnD03ii> Reptilia, I know how to fix your problem.
[10:19] <spikebike> J0hnD03ii: oh, friend is collecting some perf numbers, already have pi2 numbers
[10:19] <kareeoleez> shit
[10:19] <newbuntu1> also during update i was getting messages like "unable to update the static fcblanks"
[10:19] <Reptilia> k1l_:I connected with tethering, the Wi-Fi is still not working, let me paste you the output of the command
[10:19] <J0hnD03ii> Reptilia, ^
[10:20] <nos09> would it cause any problems if I install apache2 package after installing tomcat7 ? cause i am not able to access tomcat's webpage over port 8080 ?
[10:20] <Reptilia> J0hnD03ii:Alright
[10:20] <Reptilia> J0hnD03ii:How? :)
[10:21] <newbuntu1> error messages like "dpkg: warning : unable to dekete old directory '/etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d : Directory not empty
[10:21] <Elec_A> Hello, I run "apt-get update" in kubuntu 16.04 and this is the output http://paste.opensuse.org/16953785 . it starts from hit:1 and ends at hit:7 is it ok?
[10:21] <J0hnD03ii> Reptilia, to fix it: "sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces" and add this to the botttom line and restart your system: auto wlan0 < then underneath that: iface wlan0 inet dhcp"
[10:21] <J0hnD03ii> ctrl x to save the nano edit
[10:21] <J0hnD03ii> make sure to run with su or sudo
[10:21] <J0hnD03ii> fixed it for me, my wifi didn't work too
[10:22] <newbuntu1> Elec_A: i am also getting similar results with ubuntu16.04 after update
[10:22] <TJ-> newbuntu1: that last initramfs-tools warning is not a problem, it just means there are custom config files installed there by othere packages and so the directory wasn't deleted
[10:22] <Reptilia> J0hnD03ii:Yup, but since i am on a "Try now", will that changes take effect after the restart?
[10:22] <haasn> The program `pam-auth-update` lets me successfully enable LDAP authentication. But I want to copy this result to to future machines without needing to run `pam-auth-update` by hand on them every time. What would be the proper way to do that? I could just copy over /etc/pam.d/common-* but ideally I would like to just have the target machine remember what pam-auth-update packages I enabled
[10:22] <haasn> (In case they change upstream)
[10:22] <J0hnD03ii> uhm, restart network manager if you can't restart
[10:22] <J0hnD03ii> Reptilia, ^
[10:22] <newbuntu1> TJ-: ok so i won't worry about that
[10:22] <ewet> what kind of horseshit is this? -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshootingProcedure
[10:23] <ewet> ` sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get dist-upgrade; sudo apt-get install pavucontrol linux-sound-base alsa-base alsa-utils lightdm ubuntu-desktop  linux-image-`uname -r` libasound2; sudo apt-get -y --reinstall install linux-sound-base alsa-base alsa-utils lightdm ubuntu-desktop  linux-image-`uname -r` libasound2; killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.pulse*; ubuntu-support-status; sudo usermod -aG `cat /etc/group | grep -e '^pulse:' -e '^audio:' -e '^pulse-access:' -e
[10:23] <ewet> '^pulse-rt:' -e '^video:' | awk -F: '{print $1}' | tr '\n' ',' | sed 's:,$::g'` `whoami` `
[10:23] <ewet> are you kidding me?
[10:23] <J0hnD03ii> dude :/
[10:23] <auronandace> kareeoleez: i've just tested virtualbox out now. works fine for me
[10:24] <Reptilia> J0hnD03ii:Right
[10:24] <kareeoleez> auronandace: VboxManage --info ?
[10:25] <kareeoleez> auronandace: VboxManage --version
[10:25] <Elec_A> I have a question. where is add or remove software in kubuntu 16.04 ?
[10:25] <kareeoleez> auronandace: The character device /dev/vboxdrv does not exist
[10:25] <kareeoleez> auronandace: I purge virtualbox and then reconfigure dkms and I see it fail when it's installing
[10:25] <kareeoleez> auronandace: it's a clear installation
[10:26] <TJ-> newbuntu1: and the apt update output doesn't look far out, aside from not showing the Translations list: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15979270/
[10:26] <haasn> Ah I found the answer to my question: There's a debconf setting
[10:26] <kareeoleez> auronandace: I mean after I logged in for the first time I did an update and then an install
[10:26] <Reptilia> J0hnD03ii: "auto wlan" /  "auto wlan <" ?
[10:26] <Elec_A> newbuntu1: how to see list of repositories in kubuntu 16.04 ?
[10:26] <auronandace> kareeoleez: mine is also a clean installation of 16.04 and i got vbox from the repositories
[10:26] <Elec_A> I just moved to KDE and I'm confused .
[10:26] <TJ-> kareeoleez: if DKMS fails during vbox module build, refer to the build log from DKMS for that module
[10:27] <newbuntu1> Elec_A: have no idea,others will help you on that
[10:27] <lotuspsychje> !sources | Elec_A
[10:27] <cdidd> how to force cryptsetup into initrd?
[10:27] <newbuntu1> TJ-: so it all looks fine,should stop worrying about it then may be ?
[10:27] <kareeoleez> TJ-: you don't get any problems ?
[10:28] <kareeoleez> sorry
[10:28] <nos09> tomcat is running but in brower its not responding ? anybody can help ?
[10:28] <max12345> an application doesn't allow me to select the audio output stream in pavucontrol, can someone tell me what I can do about that?
[10:28] <Haiky> é
[10:28] <TJ-> kareeoleez: I don't use VB, I use KVM/Qemu
[10:28] <kareeoleez> auronandace: Job virtualbox.service failed and asks me to see the log
[10:28] <J0hnD03ii> Reptilia, wlan0
[10:29] <kareeoleez> auronandace: modprobe vboxdrv failed
[10:29] <TJ-> kareeoleez: yes, because the module failed to build via DKMS. check the dkms build log for that module
[10:29] <Elec_A> ubottu: Ah, I didn't know I have to install the Software Manager (Muon) myself !
[10:30] <Reptilia> J0hnD03ii: wlp3s0 is how the interface is called here, should i go with that, or wlan0?
[10:30] <Elec_A> Haha
[10:30] <Elec_A> lotuspsychje: I meant you !
[10:30] <kareeoleez> TJ-: I am purging dkms and then reinstalling and it fails
[10:30] <kareeoleez> how is it possible
[10:30] <J0hnD03ii> replace wlan0 with your interface Reptilia
[10:30] <TJ-> kareeoleez: you can manually try to build the module with "sudo dkms install <modulename>/<moduleversion> -k $(uname -r)"
[10:30] <J0hnD03ii> then restart network manager
[10:31] <auronandace> kareeoleez: if you want to know exactly where it fails then you'll need to read the log
[10:31] <newbuntu1> thanks for help TJ-
[10:31] <TJ-> kareeoleez: when/if the build fails DKMS will give you a path to a the build log you can inspect to discover why the build failed
[10:31] <kareeoleez> auronandace: which log ?
[10:31] <noonien> TJ-: even though in the initramfs config i have "most", there are only 66 .ko files in initrd/lib/modules
[10:31] <kareeoleez> TJ-: I am installing it again to see
[10:32] <TJ-> noonien: is that the one built using that git repo's shell scripts?
[10:33] <noonien> TJ-: yeah, using the tutorial from https://github.com/korylprince/ubuntu-pxe however, the initrd.img is built by installing the kernel in the chroot by initramfs-tools
[10:33] <kareeoleez> TJ-: it just says that the service failed to start
[10:33] <kareeoleez> TJ-: DKMS: install completed
[10:33] <kareeoleez> TJ-: so it completes the installation
[10:34] <noonien> here's the module list: http://vpaste.net/8Qzht i think these should do
[10:34] <TJ-> noonien: I'd investigate the content of the instructions result for "wget <core.tgz>" since that is what build.sh uses to create the initrd
[10:35] <TJ-> kareeoleez: in which case check the output from "dmesg" - the module is probably reporting an error when it tries to load
[10:35] <kareeoleez> TJ-: dmesg is too long
[10:35] <kareeoleez> TJ-: and I don't see something suspicious
[10:35] <TJ-> kareeoleez: "dmesg | tail -n 25"
[10:35] <noonien> TJ-: core.tgz is http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-core/releases/16.04/release/ubuntu-core-16.04-core-amd64.tar.gz
[10:35] <TJ-> kareeoleez: that'll show you the last 25 lines from it, or you could try "dmesg | grep vbox"
[10:36] <kareeoleez> TJ-: no reference about vbox
[10:36] <TJ-> noonien: right, so once it is extracted to your /opt/... directory, use lsinitramfs on it to see whats in there
[10:36] <noonien> the nic doedsn't seem to get detected `ip -o a` only shows lo0, i'll try to get the netconsonle running somehow
[10:37] <TJ-> kareeoleez: ok, if service fails to start do "systemctl status vbox.service" (if that is the service name, else, use the correct name)
[10:37] <kareeoleez> TJ-: modprobe vboxdrv failed
[10:37] <TJ-> noonien: if I recall correctly, the content of that core initrd is tuned for virtual machines, and the virtual hardware they present to guests
[10:38] <kareeoleez> TJ-: failed to start LSB: Virtualbox kernel module
[10:38] <TJ-> kareeoleez: so now do  "dmesg | tail -n 25"
[10:38] <newbuntu1> after selecting "software packaged by canonical for their partners" in "others" tabs i get http://paste.ubuntu.com/15979398/    for apt-get update
[10:38] <noonien> TJ-: i see, i figured that might be the case, i'll try with ubuntu-server
[10:38] <TJ-> newbuntu1: what the heck!?!!? "precise" partner repo!?
[10:39] <kareeoleez> TJ-: I did but I can't see anything related to it
[10:39] <newbuntu1> TJ-: should i remove that from the others tab...i have been updating this since 12.04
[10:39] <kareeoleez> TJ-: nothing about virtualbox, vbox etc.
[10:40] <noonien> where could one find the rootfs for ubuntu-server?
[10:40] <TJ-> kareeoleez: well if modprobe fails during module load the kernel log should contain a report. Unless the module file itself isn't being found by modprobe of course
[10:41] <TJ-> noonien: there isn't one as such, since it is built at install-time. You'd want a 'cloud' image again... tuned to VMs
[10:41] <kareeoleez> TJ-: where do I find this report ?
[10:41] <TJ-> kareeoleez: make sure modprobe is trying to load the correct versioned module: "modinfo <module-name>" check the path matches the currently running kernel ("uname -r")
[10:42] <TJ-> kareeoleez: it'd help if you pastebinned the results when you do "modprobe ..." so we can see exactly what the report is
[10:43] <kareeoleez> TJ-: It says ERROR: could not insert vboxdrv: Required key not available
[10:43] <kareeoleez> TJ-: modinfo gives the right version
[10:43] <TJ-> kareeoleez: is this on a Secure Boot enabled system?
[10:43] <kareeoleez> yes
[10:43] <kareeoleez> I believe we enabled it
[10:43] <TJ-> kareeoleez: well, that's it then! the module isn't signed so it won't be loaded
[10:44] <kareeoleez> shit
[10:44] <kareeoleez> omg
[10:44] <lotuspsychje> !language | kareeoleez
[10:44] <ashishrko123> what
[10:44] <TJ-> kareeoleez: you'd need to add your own signing key, if appropriate, or else disable S.B.
[10:44] <Apachez> any of you who have played with UCK (Ubuntu Customization Kit) lately? Any proper fix for the fact that UCK doesnt work (blames on gfxboot-theme)?
[10:44] <kareeoleez> TJ-: I am looking into it
[10:44] <kareeoleez> THANKS
[10:44] <TJ-> kareeoleez: took a while to get there!
[10:45] <TJ-> kareeoleez: this is why showing us the *exact* command output in a pastebin, from the beginning, is so important. We could have told you this 1/2 hour ago :)
[10:46] <kareeoleez> TJ-: is it complicated to disable ?
[10:46] <kareeoleez> TJ-: yeah I know
[10:46] <brym> morning all. i upgraded to 16.04 yesterday (only took about 4 attempts to fight through partial upgrades), but the system won't boot using kernel 4.4.0-21. i have to use grub and boot using 3.13. are there known issues with 4.4.0-21?
[10:46] <TJ-> kareeoleez: it's a motherboard/firmware setting
[10:46] <kareeoleez> TJ-: but we chose this in ubuntu installation
[10:46] <kareeoleez> TJ-: I mean it's software related
[10:47] <TJ-> kareeoleez: the mobo/firmware setup controls the state of the Secure Boot flag. You'll need to use its Setup option at power-on time to disable it
[10:47] <lotuspsychje> brym: did you came from 15.10?
[10:47] <brym> 14.04
[10:47] <brainwash> brym: nothing in the logs? some hint would be helpful
[10:47] <auronandace> kareeoleez: i think you might be confusing encryption with secure boot
[10:48] <TJ-> auronandace: good point, thanks! :)
[10:48] <lotuspsychje> brym: what upgrade command did you use?
[10:48] <kareeoleez> auronandace: most possibly
[10:48] <brym> update-manager -d
[10:49] <brym> brainwash: sorry, where can i get the log info, and i'll send you it
[10:49] <lotuspsychje> brym: running kernel .21 without issues here
[10:49] <lotuspsychje> brym: can you F1 at boot process to see where it hangs/freezes?
[10:50] <brainwash> brym: run "journalctl"
[10:50] <k1l_> !ltsupgrade | brym
[10:50] <brym> ubottu: i read that yesterday, but wanted to give it a go earlier. impatience lol
[10:50] <k1l_> brym: ok, read about your kernel issue just now, sorry. what does the syslog say form the failed boot?
[10:51] <brym> ubottu: but microsoft have one that twitter abused. why not you here lol
[10:51] <brym> hah, ok, he don't wanna play :)
[10:54] <__raven> hi
[10:55] <__raven> pc after 16.04 upgrade not usable any more: every kernel and every "more options" disable keyboard on every usb port. cannot enter decrypt password. how to fix that?
[10:55] <Reptilia> There was a guy named D03...something, he was helping me with Wi-Fi troubleshooting. Still here?
[10:55] <brym> k1l: i've checked syslog, but i've only just reinstalled irc, so it only shows info about that from the last 100 lines
[10:56] <k1l_> brym: irc doesnt have to do anything with such issues
[10:56] <brym> k1l: indeed, but that's the only info the last 100 lines refers to.
[10:57] <lotuspsychje> Reptilia: J0hnD03ii
[10:57] <k1l_> brym: "cat /var/log/syslog | nc termbin.com 9999" please show the output url when running that in terminal
[10:57] <lotuspsychje> __raven: wich version did you upgrade from?
[10:57] <brym> k1l: in fact, it doesn't even display 100 lines... thanks k1l
[10:58] <Reptilia> J0hnD03ii:Could you send me the command where i am able to edit the conf. file, or whatever it is (where i am adding the 2 lines)?
[10:58] <brym> k1l: http://termbin.com/gkiu
[10:58] <Reptilia> lotuspsychje:Thanks
[10:59] <k1l_> brym: that is not helping. what video card is it?
[10:59] <brym> k1l: Gallium 0.4 on AMD BARTS (DRM 2.36.0, LLVM 3.8.0)
[11:00] <k1l_> brym: "lspci | nc termbin.com 9999"
[11:01] <__raven> lotuspsychje: 15.10 to 16.04
[11:01] <brym> k1l:  thanks, http://termbin.com/7tcz
[11:02] <Amm0n> Is Ubuntu 15.10 and 16.04 still using syslog-ng? I thought these versions got systemd and journalctl?
[11:03] <lotuspsychje> __raven: can you still boot the desktop?
[11:03] <Desu> Amm0n: you can use syslog with systemd, and get better syslog logs as a bonus
[11:04] <k1l_> brym: could be due to 16.04 got no fglrx no more since amd doesnt make fglrx for the new xorg anymore.
[11:04] <__raven> lotuspsychje: no will have to chroot or figure out some hardware change to solve that :(
[11:04] <Desu> brym: what card?
[11:05] <brym> Desu: radeon hd 6870
[11:05] <lotuspsychje> __raven: or try booting a previous kernel to get in?
[11:05] <__raven> lotuspsychje: no kernel and no option works any more
[11:06] <k1l_> brym: best is to boot that new kernel and maybe try nomodeset. then see where it got issues from the logs
[11:06] <lotuspsychje> __raven: tried a recoverymode/fix broken packages?
[11:06] <Amm0n> Desu, can you be more specific? whats the benefit of logging 2x?
[11:06] <__raven> lotuspsychje: that i mean by "options" - not working
[11:06] <Desu> brym: use radeon, it is the only remotely usable driver for that now
[11:07] <Desu> (and really have been for the past year and a half)
[11:07] <lotuspsychje> __raven: anything went wrong during upgrade process? did you have ppa's?
[11:07] <Desu> Amm0n: journald lets you collect more metadata with your messages, and messages from more sources, which you can then end to syslog
[11:07] <noonien> TJ-: i managed to get it to work, the core image was indeed lacking many modules. i just chrooted and did an apt-get install linux-image-generic instead of dpkg -i <kernel.deb>, this installed most modules and the image now boots correctly
[11:07] <k1l_> brym: and if you use fglrx, remove that
[11:07] <__raven> lotuspsychje: no everything fine
[11:08] <Desu> Amm0n: for those that needs syslog because "legacy"
[11:08] <lotuspsychje> __raven: perhaps install 16.04 next to 15.10 and try preserve your /home?
[11:08] <noonien> does openssh regenerate its ssh keys if they're missings? or do i have do do dpkg-reconfigure myself?
[11:08] <__raven> lotuspsychje: keyboard just completely disables after grub has selected kernel
[11:08] <Desu> noonien: which keys? the host key?
[11:08] <noonien> Desu: yes
[11:09] <lotuspsychje> __raven: for all kernels, including previous?
[11:09] <__raven> lotuspsychje: no worries about the data i did backup. but id like to know the issue
[11:09] <__raven> yes
[11:09] <bencc> python-something packages in xenial will use python3?
[11:09] <bencc> like python-pip
[11:09] <Desu> forget that dpkg-reconfigure exists, use ssh-keygen
[11:10] <noonien> Desu: why is that?
[11:10] <lotuspsychje> __raven: tried an F1 text boot, see if you can see a part of errors until it goes whoopsie?
[11:10] <Desu> noonien: because it is easier and you actually get controll over what is generated so that you can actually use secure keys instead of the weak defaults?
[11:10] <lotuspsychje> __raven: if we could get a clue whats happening..
[11:11] <noonien> Desu: hmm, the defaults are weak?
[11:11] <TJ-> noonien: great; thanks for letting us know
[11:11] <__raven> lotuspsychje: will try soon. have to leave for few minutes. will  be back :)
[11:11] <lotuspsychje> __raven: good luck
[11:11] <Desu> noonien: yes
[11:12] <brym> k1l_, Desu: cheers guys. i'll check these out. for now, i'm happy it at least boots and is usable using 3.13.
[11:12] <Desu> noonien: you should use ed25519 or rsa >= 4096
[11:12] <Desu> and/or
[11:12] <Desu> noonien: and you should not have a dsa key
[11:14] <noonien> Desu: I see, thanks, the default rsa key is 2048, right?
[11:14] <Desu> noonien: 2048 or 1024, depending on openssh version
[11:15] <Desu> 2048 is the bare minimum you should use, but it is not considred to be safe for more than a couple of more years
[11:15] <ABC-XYZ> Anyone got GNOME Software's app folders working in 16.04? No dconf key seems to be added in all of my installs
[11:15] <segf4ult> ll
[11:15] <Desu> safe from non-goverment backed attackers that is
[11:15] <Desu> there really isn't any reason not to do 4096 or larger if you want/need rsa
[11:16] <noonien> is ed ecds with the non-nist curves?
[11:17] <segf4ult> how is ubuntu 16.04 treating everyone? Worth upgrading from 14.04.4?
[11:17] <Desu> noonien: uses twisted edwards curve
[11:17] <lotuspsychje> !ltsupgrade | segf4ult
[11:17] <segf4ult> ubottu: I don't have the upgrade utilities installed ^^;
[11:18] <noonien> Desu: oh, so I also need an ed25519 key on the client side.
[11:18] <Desu> noonien: a bit advantage of ed25519 is tht it is pretty resilent against side channel attacks
[11:18] <Desu> big*
[11:18] <noonien> I also need to modify ssh_config i guess, or will sshd not throw an error if the dsa key does not exist?
[11:19] <Desu> sshd won't care if you don't have a dsa key
[11:19] <lotuspsychje> segf4ult: what you mean you dont have upgrade utils? did you purge apt :p ?
[11:19] <Desu> also dsa was deprecated in recent openssh implementations and is disabled by default
[11:19] <segf4ult> lotuspsychje: I don't get any kind of popups on my install, I did a server install and installed X on top, just to have a minimal system
[11:19] <noonien> Also, if the server has a rsa4096 key, do my client ssh keys also have to be 4096bits? Or is the key just used to authenticate the server after the first connect?
[11:20] <segf4ult> lotuspsychje: as such, I'm not running the update monitor tool
[11:20] <Desu> the client and host key does different things
[11:20] <Desu> the host keys tells the client that it is talking to the right host, the client key is used to auth the client with the host
[11:21] <Desu> if you change your host key the client will complain about the fingerprint being different
[11:21] <Desu> should always check the fingerpring manually when that happens
[11:22] <lotuspsychje> segf4ult: for server use perhaps wait till 16.04.1?
[11:22] <noonien> Oh, so the server's pub key is just stored in known_hosts
[11:22] <segf4ult> lotuspsychje: I'm not actually running a server here though, it's my main driver ^^
[11:22] <Desu> yes
[11:23] <lotuspsychje> segf4ult: your the boss of your machine, test 16.04 in a live?
[11:23] <segf4ult> lotuspsychje: in a what?
[11:23] <lotuspsychje> segf4ult: liveusb/dvd
[11:23] <Desu> it is used to stop mitm etc
[11:23] <segf4ult> lotuspsychje: I can give it a go, probably :)
[11:24] <max12345> hi. Let's say a non-maintained default program has driven me to the point where I want to look into contributing. Where do I turn to?
[11:25] <max12345> I found the thing on launchpad
[11:25] <lotuspsychje> !contribute | max12345
[11:25] <newbuntu1> where can i upload images
[11:26] <scam> http://postimage.org/ newbuntu1
[11:26] <peter1858> Hi all. I wanted to talk about a learning program (development, graphics, 3d and I'm sure there's plenty more). Any suggestions for  what channel to use? Maybe something like Debian's off-topic?
[11:26] <newbuntu1> thanks
[11:26] <lotuspsychje> peter1858: ##programming ?
[11:26] <scam> np
[11:26] <vooze> Is it possible to activate xenial-proposed during install ?
[11:27] <xHaVoK87> Anyone having issues installing Ubuntu Gnome 16.04?
[11:27] <saikat> why nautilus still so outdated? using 16.04
[11:28] <vooze> saikat, because the new nautilus is really only made for gnome shell, and cant be themed well for unity.
[11:29] <vooze> saikat, it would look like calendar
[11:29] <saikat> vooze, I see. It's really annoying to have a different copy, move window
[11:30] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[11:31] <saikat> vooze, will unity move to caja?
[11:31] <wyoung> I dislike unity
[11:31] <segf4ult> wyoung: what do you prefer then? :)
[11:31] <k1l_> wyoung: then use another desktop. ubuntu ships a lot of other ones
[11:31] <saikat> not that bad now wyoung
[11:31] <vooze> saikat, unity will move to mir / unity8, so no more gnome apps.
[11:32] <wyoung> segf4ult: gnome usually, it doesn't do crazy keyboard focus doesn't work stuff
[11:32] <segf4ult> wyoung: so, gnome shell? or the old gnome 2 type?
[11:32] <wyoung> or clicking on something doesn't give you keyboard focus
[11:32] <saikat> oh, but I heard unity 8 isn't coming untill 2017
[11:33] <k1l_> wyoung: please focus on actual support in here. for rantings please use your own blog.
[11:33] <Reptilia> Is there a way to access the load channel conversations from a random starting point in the past?
[11:33] <k1l_> saikat: unity8 is already in use on smartphones and tablets and is on the way for the desktop. you can test it with https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Unity8inLXC
[11:33] <Reptilia> Is there a way to *load channel conversations from a random starting point in the past?
[11:33] <wyoung> k1l_: can you fix my mouse focus?  how's that?
[11:33] <michagogo> Why does a fresh debootstrap not have bash or apt?
[11:33] <k1l_> !irclogs | Reptilia
[11:34] <Reptilia> Thanks
[11:34] <k1l_> wyoung: fix what exactly?
[11:34] <kareeoleez> TJ-: you saved my ass
[11:34] <kareeoleez> TJ-: 1000 Thanks
[11:34] <michagogo> I ran debootstrap trusty <dir> file:///media/trustyiso
[11:34] <wyoung> k1l_: every now and then unity likes to misbehave, I click on a window and I don't get focus.
[11:34] <newbuntu1> under "additional drivers" tab in softwares and updates it shows http://paste.ubuntu.com/15979875/   with second option selected by default,i guess i don't need to use the first one
[11:34] <mcphail> michagogo: a debootstrap installs a minimal system
[11:34] <wyoung> k1l_: or a window is now longer in the ALT+TAB list
[11:35] <michagogo> (Where that last argument is the 14.04.4 ISO)
[11:35] <michagogo> Then I'm trying to chroot <dir>
[11:35] <wyoung> k1l_: or a new window opens but opens at the bottom of the opened apps instead of on top
[11:35] <michagogo> mcphail: *that* minimal? Not even a shell or apt?
[11:35] <k1l_> wyoung: did you file bugs describing the exact workflow and programs in use?
[11:36] <wyoung> k1l_: of course not, I don't have time for that nonsense :)
[11:36] <mcphail> michagogo: there is a shell and there is apt-get
[11:36] <segf4ult> wyoung: well, if you don't have time to file bugs, how do you have time to hang on IRC?
[11:36] <michagogo> mcphail: okay, so I must have done something wrong
[11:37] <wyoung> segf4ult: I don't have  time when the bug occurs
[11:37] <wyoung> segf4ult: plus what information do you require/
[11:37] <mcphail> michagogo: perhaps you've just installed the first stage?
[11:37] <segf4ult> wyoung: well, what you were doing when the bug occurrs in the first place, maybe versions of software ^^
[11:37] <michagogo> mcphail: I seem to have a full filesystem tree in there
[11:38] <k1l_> wyoung: there are some apps forcing strange x11 behaviour. but its hard to tell in general. in general windowmanagement works
[11:38] <wyoung> segf4ult: pycharms
[11:38] <wyoung> segf4ult: thunderbird
[11:38] <xHaVoK87> Is Ubuntu Gnome 16.04 installation broken right now?
[11:38] <k1l_> wyoung: so i guess we can drop that rantings and you come back when you have exact informations and people in here will try to help. this "unity doesnt work" is not going to help anything
[11:39] <wyoung> k1l_: ?? I am giving you details
[11:39] <wyoung> unless you needmore, in which case specify what you require
[11:39] <wyoung> versions are the latest
[11:40] <michagogo> mcphail: I ran this command: sudo debootstrap trusty ./trusty file:///path/to/mounted/14.04.4.iso
[11:40] <michagogo> It proceeded to get a whole bunch of packages
[11:40] <TJ-> kareeoleez: glad you solved it :)
[11:40] <michagogo> And now, sudo chroot trusty is saying "/bin/bash: no such file or directory"
[11:41] <AnonPegasusBR> Eai galarinha :P
[11:41] <mcphail> michagogo: you need to run debootstrap, add an appropriate spurces.list, bind mount proc sys and dev and chroot in
[11:41] <AnonPegasusBR> alguem para portugues ae ?
[11:41] <mcphail> *sources
[11:41] <DJones> !pt | AnonPegasusBR
[11:41] <jatt> !pt
[11:42] <TheIdea> I'm having trouble accessing win7 that is on another hdd trough grub
[11:42] <TheIdea> it's shown but it boots my other windows that is on the same hdd as ubuntu
[11:43] <segf4ult> TheIdea: is your other hdd visible to the system when the osprober scripts do their work?
[11:43] <michagogo> mcphail: so you have a link with information about that? I did copy in sources.list
[11:43] <michagogo> But the thing is, /usr/bin/apt-get doesn't seem to exist
[11:43] <SwedeMike> on 14.04 I had an EUI64 based SLAAC IPv6 address that was stable across reboots. With 16.04 I get two SLAAC GUI addresses, but none are stable across reboots. Also it seems privacy extensions has been turned default off now. Anyone know what the thinking is behind these changes?
[11:43] <wyoung> michagogo: Does rpm exist?
[11:44] <MyWay1> hi, I'm upgrading from 15.10 to 16.04, but I'm getting errors because I can't upgrade totem, it says it can't find version 3.18.1-1ubuntu4 but only 3.16
[11:44] <TheIdea> I have no idea
[11:44] <MyWay1> any suggestion?
[11:44] <michagogo> Might it have to do with the fact that I debootstrapped from the (mounted) iso?
[11:44] <michagogo> wyoung: is that a joke?
[11:44] <mcphail> michagogo: not easily available as I'm on my mobile in transit. I can probably find something if you ping me tonight
[11:44] <TheIdea> the bios lists it at startup
[11:44] <wyoung> michagogo: well if apt-get  doesn't exist and rpm does then you are probably using centos
[11:44] <TheIdea> and it's accessible in ubuntu
[11:45] <TheIdea> it's just not booting
[11:45] <segf4ult> TheIdea: is the bootloader properly installed on the second harddrive??
[11:45] <michagogo> wyoung: ...no.
[11:45] <wyoung> I am troubleshooting
[11:45] <TheIdea> nope its only on the first hdd
[11:45] <k1l_> MyWay1: what ubuntu are you on? how did you start the upgrade?
[11:45] <michagogo> wyoung: this is debootstrap, running on an Ubuntu machine, pointed at an Ubuntu installation disc
[11:45] <MyWay1> it's ubuntu gnome, but I think the upgrade process is equal
[11:45] <TheIdea> is that the problem?
[11:45] <MyWay1> I did do-release-upgrade
[11:45] <wyoung> michagogo: ah ok, and you installed the base / minimum set?
[11:46] <segf4ult> TheIdea: Grub will generally try to chainload to a secondary bootloader, if the second harddrive does not have a bootloader installed, then you cannot boot that windows system from grub
[11:46] <k1l_> MyWay1: did the upgrade stop?
[11:46] <michagogo> wyoung: whatever the default is
[11:46] <TheIdea> thx Ill install grub on the second hdd too then
[11:46] <michagogo> My command was sudo debootstrap trusty ./trusty file:///path/to/disc
[11:46] <segf4ult> TheIdea: hold on
[11:46] <MyWay1> Yes, it said to press enter because there were errors
[11:46] <segf4ult> TheIdea: is the Windows bootloader properly setup on the second harddrive?
[11:46] <TheIdea> yes?
[11:47] <MyWay1> now I'm on 16.04, but incomplete
[11:47] <TheIdea> it works fine
[11:47] <mcphail> michagogo: btw, any reason you're pulling packages from an iso? Usually best to let debootstrap pull everything from the net
[11:47] <TheIdea> so I guess it is
[11:47] <k1l_> MyWay1: "apt-cache policy | nc termbin.com 9999"
[11:47] <segf4ult> TheIdea: strange..
[11:47] <k1l_> MyWay1: please run that and show the url
[11:47] <TheIdea> but there is only win on that hdd
[11:47] <J2p4> hello i was updating to 16.04 then after screen timeout and session locking i can not log in anymore. What should i do?
[11:48] <CRzz> God afternood, I have 15.10 installed on two of my computers... One is my media PC, I noticed that that one does not want to use my Logitech MX5500. When I connect the USB dongle I can't use k/b or mouse at all... it refuses to connect to the dongle even if I reconnect. The same issue I noticed on my other pc when I install 15.10 on that pc yesterday (clean and might have updated it...not sure now). Any suggestions?
[11:48] <MyWay1> k1l_: http://termbin.com/xyow
[11:48] <TheIdea> maybve it has to do that the hdd is not set in the bios?
[11:48] <TheIdea> -v
[11:48] <michagogo> mcphail: long story, but basically I already have the iso
[11:48] <michagogo> And it's not important to me for anything to be up to date
[11:48] <segf4ult> TheIdea: not sure then ^^;
[11:48] <TheIdea> if I switch the hdd in the bios I can boot the hdd normally
[11:49] <k1l_> MyWay1: "lsb_release -d" shows what output?
[11:49] <TheIdea> but I kind of do not want that
[11:49] <michagogo> I just want a trustyish environment as fast as possible
[11:49] <saikat> can change brightness in 16.04 unity with nouveau driver installed.
[11:49] <TheIdea> thx anyway
[11:49] <MyWay1> ubuntu 16.04 LTS
[11:49] <TheIdea> the strange thing is I have the 2nd win7 entry
[11:49] <k1l_> MyWay1: ok, seems like the upgrade was half way done already.
[11:49] <TheIdea> but it only boots into the win on the ubuntu hdd
[11:49] <MyWay1> yes
[11:49] <k1l_> MyWay1: please run a "sudo apt update; sudo apt full-upgrade"
[11:50] <segf4ult> TheIdea: then somehow, they point to the same win7 install?
[11:50] <mcphail> michagogo: tbh, I don't know how well that works...
[11:50] <TheIdea> probably
[11:50] <TheIdea> i've never confg. grub
[11:50] <TheIdea> it always auto everything
[11:50] <segf4ult> TheIdea: what you could try is run "sudo update-grub2", that should automatically try and reprobe all the operating systems
[11:50] <MyWay1> k1l_: getting the same error of totem wrong version
[11:50] <TheIdea> I did that
[11:51] <saikat> can anybody having this issue? Nonveau brightness changing problem in unity. 16.04 lts
[11:51] <TheIdea> thats when i got the 2nd win7 entry
[11:51] <k1l_> MyWay1: can you put all the output to paste.ubuntu.com ?
[11:51] <MyWay1> it seems apt can find 3.16, but not 3.18
[11:51] <MyWay1> that's hard, I have the shell only, how can I do it?
[11:51] <k1l_> MyWay1: "apt-cache policy totem | nc termbin.com 9999" run that
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[11:52] <TheIdea> I've been googling the issue but so far I haven't found anything usable
[11:52] <segf4ult> that was weird...
[11:52] <MyWay1> k1l_ http://termbin.com/icye
[11:52] <MyWay1> here it says 3.18...
[11:53] <TheIdea> guess Ill have to switch hdds in the bios....
[11:53] <TheIdea> thx for your time
[11:53] <MyWay1> when I upgrade it says I have 3.16
[11:53] <k1l_> MyWay1: yeah. please run "sudo apt update; sudo apt full-upgrade | nc termbin.com 9999"
[11:53] <segf4ult> TheIdea: sorry I couldn't be of more help ^^, good luck
[11:55] <michagogo> mcphail: hm. I just tried an http mirror URL, and it seems to be working
[11:55] <MyWay1> k1l_ http://termbin.com/5alm
[11:55] <michagogo> This time I see bash, for example -- from the ISO it wasn't appearing in the list
[11:55] <mcphail> michagogo: cool!
[11:55] <Reptilia> It's really bad that one of the main functionalities of an OS won't work. I mean, i lost a decent amount of time to make Wi-Fi work, and it doesn't. Also, execution of apps is malfunctioning...
[11:55] <michagogo> But should that not work?
[11:56] <k1l_> MyWay1: "apt-cache policy libtotem0 | nc termbin.com 9999"
[11:56] <michagogo> mcphail: I mean, the manpage says that should work and it apparently doesn't.
[11:56] <Cablegunmaster> yay 16.04 issues , how to resolve a shutdown issue with 3rd party apps? trying to resolve on which app it hangs on shutdown
[11:56] <mcphail> michagogo: not sure if the iso has all needed packages to complete the debootstrap. I've never actually tried
[11:56] <MyWay1> http://termbin.com/cvlz
[11:57] <iSlayWyverns> http://pastebin.com/ig6hsh8s what?
[11:57] <michagogo> mcphail: that's weird. I mean, you can install a full system from the ISO offline, can't you?
[11:57] <de-facto> im trying to compile easystroke http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/easystroke (mouse gestures) package on xenial, but i get a weird error where it stops: actions.cc:57:39: error: 'group' is not a member of 'sigc'. Am i missing some dependencies, it seems it was compiled for xenial on the repo...
[11:57] <MyWay1> this is 3.16
[11:57] <k1l_> MyWay1: hmm, dont know what is going on. since he complains a lot of package the upgrader cant find but the packages are there.
[11:58] <k1l_> MyWay1: try a "sudo apt-get install -f"
[11:58] <lotuspsychje> de-facto: why not install the one from repos?
[11:58] <mcphail> michagogo: yes, but debootstrapping is more complex. For example, you can install for foreign architectures etc
[11:59] <MyWay1> I get a lot of lines with gconf2 and then it says too many errors, operation blocked
[11:59] <michagogo> mcphail: but if you're not, it should be able to work…
[11:59] <MyWay1> dpkg returned an error code (1)
[11:59] <michagogo> This was installing for amd64 on amd64
[11:59] <de-facto> lotuspsychje because it has some bugs which are resolved in the latest github sources (gfx glitches and storage). But first i wanted to be able to compile the plain repo sources then move on to the newest ones if that succeeds. the error occurs on the repo sources (i.e. with apt-get source easystroke)
[11:59] <lotuspsychje> !latest | de-facto
[11:59] <k1l_> MyWay1: "grep ^ /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/source.list.d/* | nc termbin.com 9999"
[12:00] <mcphail> michagogo: not if all the magic isn't in there already. It doesn't install exactly the same way
[12:00] <de-facto> lotuspsychje i just am asking to be able to compile the official ubuntu version
[12:00] <MyWay1> k1l_ http://termbin.com/iuqk
[12:01] <lotuspsychje> !info easystroke | de-facto = official?
[12:02] <de-facto> lotuspsychje i installed everything that dpkg-buildpackage asked for but i guess im still missing some dev deps since it wont compile on a fresh install
[12:03] <k1l_> MyWay1: hmm. could be some old ppa package still installed forcing depencies that the apt-get cant solve.
[12:03] <k1l_> MyWay1: "sudo apt-get install -f |nc termbin.com 9999"
[12:04] <MyWay1> k1l_ http://termbin.com/k60m
[12:04] <TomyWork> i'm looking for a file system that will allow me to test my cleanup script against without copying a bunch of gigabytes around for each test. is aufs good for that?
[12:05] <TomyWork> i want it to be backed by a read-only base file system and overlay a writable file system over that. deletes need to be possible
[12:06] <michagogo> mcphail: I'm confused, though. The manpage seems to suggest it should work.
[12:06] <k1l_> MyWay1: "LC_ALL=C sudo apt-get install -y -f |nc termbin.com 9999"
[12:07] <UbuntuDude> I tried vivid and now willy and in both os versions I keep getting this screen fonts problem, it's the same and I'm not sure what is going on!!! https://snag.gy/RdztVm
[12:07] <UbuntuDude> Can anyone help on this bug?
[12:07] <michagogo> At least, I thought it did...
[12:07] <TomyWork> it's "wily"
[12:07] <de-facto> lotuspsychje i know all those infos the bot provided already, do you have an idea what dependency i am missing for building that package?
[12:07] <MyWay1> k1l_ http://termbin.com/km8c
[12:07] <TomyWork> as in wily coyote
[12:08] <k1l_> MyWay1: sudo apt install python3
[12:08] <TomyWork> apt-get*
[12:08] <MyWay1> I get errors for totem
[12:08] <lotuspsychje> de-facto: if you trying to get that git one compiled, ask their forum perhaps?
[12:09] <ratrace> UbuntuDude: doesn't look like it, but could be related. Do you have your locale set up correctly as UTF-8?
[12:09] <de-facto> lotuspsychje im trying to get the ubuntu version compiled
[12:10] <TomyWork> de-facto you want to compile git? why?
[12:10] <k1l_> MyWay1: "LC_ALL=C sudo apt-get install python3 |nc termbin.com 9999"
[12:10] <TomyWork> there's a PPA
[12:10] <Commandare> Hi
[12:10] <TomyWork> de-facto https://launchpad.net/~git-core/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[12:10] <de-facto> lotuspsychje i did "apt-get source easystroke" then "apt build-dep easystroke" then "dpkg-buildpackage" inside the source folder
[12:11] <MyWay1> k1l_ http://termbin.com/2m4b
[12:11] <UbuntuDude> ratrace: I can read you correctly :( I think you ask about utf-8 and location!!!
[12:11] <de-facto> TomyWork im trying to compile http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/easystroke
[12:11] <UbuntuDude> Oh I don't wanna reinstall OS again
[12:11] <TomyWork> and you started with "apt-get source easystroke"?
[12:11] <k1l_> MyWay1: its not only totem. the whole system is a mess
[12:12] <MyWay1> nice
[12:12] <de-facto> TomyWork yes why?
[12:12] <Commandare> how's the new Ubuntu?
[12:12] <k1l_> MyWay1: "LC_ALL=C sudo dpkg --configure python3 |nc termbin.com 9999"
[12:12] <TomyWork> then "debuild -us -uc" should work, unless the source package is broken
[12:13] <ratrace> UbuntuDude: locale, do you know how to set it?
[12:13] <TomyWork> (or you're missing build dependencies)
[12:13] <TomyWork> de-facto http://packages.ubuntu.com/source/xenial/easystroke the build dependencies are listed on the source package's page
[12:13] <bazhang> !notes
[12:13] <bazhang> Commandare, ^
[12:14] <de-facto> TomyWork yup arent those the same which get pulled in via "apt build-dep easystroke"?
[12:15] <MyWay1> k1l_ it says use netcat and does not give me the url
[12:15] <k1l_> MyWay1: "LC_ALL=C sudo dpkg --configure python3
[12:15] <de-facto> TomyWork "debuild -us -uc" gives me the same error than "dpkg-buildpackage" :  actions.cc:57:39: error: 'group' is not a member of 'sigc'
[12:16] <MyWay1> errors were encountered while processing python3
[12:16] <MyWay1> and some dependencies not configured
[12:17] <MyWay1> dh-python, libpython3-stdlib, python3.5
[12:17] <TomyWork> de-facto i dont know, have you checked if they're installed?
[12:19] <TomyWork> MyWay1 k1l_ probably needs to see your "apt-cache policy python3" output :)
[12:19] <MyWay1> ok
[12:20] <MyWay1> k1l_ http://termbin.com/4mfc
[12:20] <k1l_> MyWay1: run the sudo dpkg --configure for the packages mentioned
[12:20] <MyWay1> ok
[12:21] <TomyWork> MyWay1 ok that looks fine... *shrug*
[12:21] <de-facto> TomyWork i guess so because otherwise dpkg-buildpackage usually complains about missing build deps
[12:21] <MyWay1> ok, I did it
[12:21] <TomyWork> maybe one of the dependencies is off
[12:22] <de-facto> TomyWork yeah thats what i suspect, something missing in build deps
[12:22] <TomyWork> de-facto do you have libsigc++ installed?
[12:22] <El_Capitano> .
[12:22] <TomyWork> the dev version of it
[12:22] <TomyWork> de-facto cause that's what sigc::group seems to be from
[12:23] <mbe> hi
[12:23] <de-facto> TomyWork i have libsigc++-2.0-0v5 and libsigc++-2.0-dev installed
[12:23] <TomyWork> hmm
[12:23] <MyWay1> but it wants python3:any which depends on python3
[12:23] <TomyWork> no further ideas, sorry
[12:23] <MyWay1> so I can't proceed anymore
[12:24] <de-facto> TomyWork thanks for your help
[12:24] <TomyWork> np
[12:25] <MyWay1> it says python3:any is not installed
[12:25] <MyWay1> and so I can't configure it
[12:26] <MyWay1> this should be the last dependency I think, then python'dg
[12:26] <MyWay1> python-dh should work
[12:26] <MyWay1> and then python3
[12:27] <TJ-> Seems like 16.04 bluetooth (HID) device PIN entry via GUI agent is still broken during pairing
[12:27] <chaos|2> can someone tell me how to compile ffmpegthumbs it seems the current one in 16.04 doesnt support kde5
[12:28] <MyWay1> then with python3 gconf2 should work
[12:28] <Baurin> what is the default position of the Unity Bar in 16.04?
[12:29] <anomaly44> if i try to install skype, i just get a question mark icon in my unity bar, saying waiting to install
[12:29] <anomaly44> any idea how to fix that?
[12:29] <anomaly44> cant even close it
[12:29] <k1l_> MyWay1: something messed with the python on your system. i think it was some 3rd party package. and since a lot of packages use python that broke the upgrade
[12:30] <de-facto> TomyWork it seems its something related to C++11: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1302917 but i wonder how the ubuntu repos build it then
[12:30] <MyWay1> can't I manually install witg dpkg this python3:any?
[12:30] <MyWay1> with*
[12:31] <lollipop> anomaly44: I think it has been removed from the repositories since skype doesnt work anymore in linux machines? (I'm not sure I could be wrong)
[12:31] <El_Capitano> lollipop, Skype is working OK as of now
[12:31] <El_Capitano> on Ubuntu.
[12:32] <anomaly44> oh
[12:32] <anomaly44> pity
[12:32] <lollipop> El_Capitano: okay good to hear
[12:32] <anomaly44> thx guys
[12:32] <MonkeyDust> MyWay1  if it's not in the repo's, you need a ppa or a .deb or so, but that's not supported here
[12:32] <El_Capitano> however I'd rather use Jitsi :)
[12:32] <gulzar> Hi. I am on 14.04 and was thinking of upgrading to 16.04 using ' update-manager -d' .Is it good idea?
[12:32] <k1l_> MonkeyDust: python3 is the standard since 16.04 now
[12:33] <k1l_> gulzar: that will work, but the official LTS release is opened in july for 16.04.1
[12:33] <skinux> Is Unity GUI programming only for games???
[12:33] <El_Capitano> gulzar, check main page
[12:33] <El_Capitano> gulzar, i think there was an issue upgrading from 14.04
[12:33] <El_Capitano> try to move step by step
[12:34] <MonkeyDust> k1l_  fair enough, but ubottu says it's python 2.7 (xenial)
[12:34] <gulzar> k1l_: yes, point one release are considered more stable for LTS to lts upgraded
[12:34] <k1l_> !info python3 xenial
[12:34] <skinux> Hey, I thought Xenial was officially released? According to release notes that just popped up it's only dev version...
[12:35] <lollipop> clear
[12:35] <k1l_> skinux: come on. you have been here long enough to know that this is not right
[12:35] <gulzar> El_Capitano: which main page?
[12:36] <skinux> k1l: Which is not right?
[12:36] <skinux> I'm hardly ever in this channel
[12:36] <k1l_> skinux: " According to release notes that just popped up it's only dev version..."
[12:36] <k1l_> skinux: just stop it.
[12:36] <skinux> Stop what?
[12:37] <skinux> This release is still in development. Do not install it on production machines.
[12:37] <skinux> That's what it says
[12:37] <El_Capitano> skinux, what are you talking about?
[12:37] <TomyWork> de-facto you can try to add --std=c++98 to the command line
[12:37] <k1l_> skinux: prove that accusation
[12:37] <TomyWork> or gnu++98 if that doesnt work
[12:38] <skinux> I checked for updates, installed a few, then it asked about doing a distribution upgrade and I told it to do so.
[12:38] <k1l_> skinux: read this: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2016-April/000207.html
[12:38] <skinux> Welcome to the Ubuntu 'Xenial Xerus' development releaseThis release is still in development. Do not install it on production machines.
[12:38] <k1l_> skinux: so you used the developer switch. thats why
[12:39] <skinux> I didn't use a switch....maybe the update manager did
[12:39] <skinux> Oh..wait...that what the -d was
[12:39] <TJ-> anyone know the exact executable path/name of the Unity (16.04) on-screen keyboard (from Accessibility) ?
[12:39] <k1l_> skinux: yes. that happens when people run commands they dont know.
[12:40] <gulzar> I will take risk
[12:40] <netforhack> sup
[12:40] <skinux> This page told me to http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/04/how-to-upgrade-ubuntu-14-04-to-ubuntu-16-04-lts
[12:40] <netforhack> anyone have issue with black screen on nvidia prime ?
[12:40] <k1l_> skinux: that is bad advice on that page
[12:40] <\9> that page instructed you wrong
[12:40] <skinux> Well...I can only go with what I'm told.
[12:41] <skinux> I'm not a Ubuntu expert
[12:41] <netforhack> "vgaarb: this pci device is not a vga device" in dmesg
[12:41] <gulzar> so what's your idea k1l_  \9
[12:41] <\9> skinux: you can use 'man' to help with that
[12:41] <\9> skinux: use 'man do-release-upgrade' in a terminal
[12:41] <netforhack> nvidia card at lspci - "01:00.0 3D controller: NVIDIA Corporation GM108M [GeForce 940M] (rev a2)"
[12:41] <\9> and there we can find ' -d, --devel-release
[12:41] <k1l_> gulzar: its up to you. the official LTS upgrade is opened in july. if you want it now you can use the developer switch. its your call
[12:41] <gulzar> \9: your name, anything special with it?
[12:42] <gulzar> k1l_: I will try , if good ok else I was thinking of switching to Arch linux
[12:42] <El_Capitano> gulzar, it could be typo :)
[12:42] <k1l_> gulzar: i dont know what arch has got to do with that.
[12:42] <skinux> It says no release foudn
[12:42] <skinux> But I want Xenial
[12:42] <k1l_> skinux: what ubuntu are you on?
[12:42] <skinux> 14.04
[12:42] <netforhack> skinux: use -d
[12:43] <gulzar> Aaaa no space, needs 4Gb and I have 3.5 GB
[12:43] <k1l_> netforhack: stop!
[12:43] <skinux> I was just told using -d is bad advice
[12:43] <k1l_> !ltsupgrade | skinux
[12:43] <k1l_> netforhack: dont just give out bad advice
[12:43] <netforhack> k1l_: why ? i upgrade from 15.10 to 16.04 by -d
[12:43] <netforhack> yesterday
[12:43] <k1l_> netforhack: its bad advice.
[12:43] <gulzar> k1l_: I mean, I was thinking of swithing to Arch, if 16.04 worked then good else I will continue with my switching :)
[12:43] <netforhack> but it works ...
[12:43] <El_Capitano> netforhack, did you face any issue?
[12:43] <skinux> Well, what if I don't want to wait until July?
[12:44] <k1l_> skinux: then use the unofficial developer upgrade with the developer switch.
[12:44] <netforhack> El_Capitano: yeah, nvidia blob fails, prime mostly, using intel right now
[12:44] <El_Capitano> Ok
[12:45] <skinux> So, 16.04 is a dev release or do I have to use dev release to get it right now?
[12:45] <netforhack> El_Capitano: almost all custom repo didn`t update: chrome, dropbox, nginx
[12:45] <k1l_> skinux: re read the bots message
[12:45] <netforhack> El_Capitano: also chrome`s repo use old sha1 signature that causes warning on apt
[12:45] <El_Capitano> netforhack, i guess it is meant to be upgraded in this way.
[12:45] <skinux> That's another 3 months
[12:45] <El_Capitano> it should be 14 > 15 > 16
[12:46] <k1l_> skinux: if one uses a LTS release whichs focus is on stableness, one might want to wait for 16.04.1 to have again a stable release then.
[12:46] <netforhack> El_Capitano: i upgrade from 15.10 > 16.04 on laptop, and two 14.04 server boxes to 16.04 by -d
[12:47] <poee> how many times will photorec run while recovering data from a drive ?
[12:47] <skinux> Since Xenial just came out, wouldn't the dev version be just as good as the current release?
[12:47] <k1l_> skinux: i explained that just a minute ago
[12:47] <lollipop> skinux: I recommend to wait 3 months. If you dont want to fix bugs in your operating system.
[12:47] <lanoxx> question, do I still need to add the `-d` to update-manager when I want to upgrade from 14.04 to 16.04?
[12:47] <Pici> skinux: there is no dev version.
[12:48] <netforhack> so, anyone know hot fix nvidia issue ?
[12:48] <k1l_> !ltsupgrade | lanoxx
[12:48] <k1l_> lanoxx: so yes. the LTS upgrade is still in development.
[12:49] <skinux> Damn. I've been waiting for 21st for newer versions of a couple of packages
[12:49] <Reptilia> Wi-Fi not working on Ubuntu 16.04. Any fixes?
[12:49] <Pici> skinux: you might be able to use -d to upgrade, but personally I will be waiting for the .1 release.
[12:49] <lollipop> skinux: what packas do you need?
[12:50] <nahuel> hi dudes
[12:50] <El_Capitano> Reptilia, dump details on pastbin
[12:50] <netforhack> Reptilia: seems you have too new wireless card
[12:51] <Pici> netforhack: where did you get that idea?
[12:51] <netforhack> Pici: common issue with new 802.11ac qualcomm cards ? no ?
[12:52] <k1l_> netforhack: so you know what card he got?
[12:52] <Reptilia> El_Capitano:Which arguments should go into "dump"?
[12:52] <nahuel> After upgrading my laptop, I have a problem with my mouse, but I guess it comes from Xorg: I cannot click, unless in windows content, but desktop management items it doesn't, any idea ?
[12:52] <El_Capitano> Reptilia, hardware details
[12:52] <skinux> I'd like newer versions of PHP and Composer
[12:52] <netforhack> k1l_: a guess, waiting for pastebin
[12:53] <nahuel> like window title bars, application shortcuts, desktop, …
[12:53] <mXr-> hello :)
[12:53] <El_Capitano> hi mXr-
[12:53] <mXr-> i just upgraded a 15.10 server to 16.04 and now im running into systemd related troubles with openvpn, anyone here who can potentially help me with that?
[12:54] <Cablegunmaster> how to resolve a shutdown issue? 'shutdown now' gets stuck by a hdd. for no reasons.
[12:54] <mXr-> in particular, several openvpn tunnels are started too early, unable to bind to specific ip addresses of network interfaces that seem to be not up yet at the time openvpn is started
[12:55] <netforhack> mXr-: upgraded 14.04.4 to 16.04 server box, no issue with openvpn
[12:55] <mXr-> are you binding to a specific address on the non-primary network interface?
[12:55] <netforhack> mXr-: nope
[12:55] <mXr-> well. :)
[12:55] <mXr-> from what i understand, network.target fires immediately once .. one? interface .. is up.. or something
[12:55] <gulzar> 16.04 recommended system, 25Gb free space ??
[12:56] <mXr-> according to this fairly old bug https://community.openvpn.net/openvpn/ticket/462 it seems that network-online.target is expected to help me
[12:56] <mXr-> but it doesnt
[12:56] <mXr-> actually, it seems to be doing exactly the same as network.target
[12:56] <mXr-> im still fairly inexperienced with systemd so im not sure how to fiddle with it right
[12:58] <mXr-> is there a target in ubuntu that i can use in After= or Wants= that makes sure all network configuration is up?
[12:58] <soupnanodesukar> mXr: I would use that to launch a python script that waits on the remaining interfaces, then call network manager to bring up the vpns
[12:58] <MyWay1> k1l_ it seems I have solved setting MAXREPEAT inside python files and removing with dpkg some package, ufw, ect. now I'm doing full upgrade again
[12:58] <mXr-> i have never used network manager
[12:58] <MyWay1> I've found it somewhere on stackexchange
[12:58] <k1l_> MyWay1: uh
[12:59] <mXr-> it actually appears like powerdns is also failing for the same reason
[12:59] <soupnanodesukar> mXr: neither have I from the cli, but I suspect you send dbus commands at it. You can of course use ye olde style net tools, but the idea is the same: wait, then do whatever
[12:59] <mXr-> which kind of looks to me like there is a general "bug" in 16.04 that makes services fail
[13:00] <mXr-> http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/209832/debian-systemd-network-online-target-not-working
[13:00] <mXr-> comparing the file lists of the ifupdown package from 15.10 and 16.04, that ifup-wait-all-auto.service really disappeared
[13:00] <mXr-> the ubuntu changelog says this
[13:00] <mXr->   * Drop ifup-wait-all-auto.service. This has been implemented more elegantly by making network-online.target Wants=networking.service directly.
[13:00] <mXr-> but appearently, that doesnt work :)
[13:01] <TJ-> mXr-: re:openvpn... it should be the openvpn@.service (which is triggered for each tunnel/interface) and systemd usually ought to be able to sort out the requires
[13:01] <Pici> mXr-: I think I saw a bug relating to this... let me see if I can dig it up.
[13:01] <bunulanfd> how to disable vsync 16.04 mesa 11.2
[13:01] <bunulanfd> csgo
[13:01] <mXr-> TJ- well yes but it is very different if you use openvpn in a client setup, or in a server one
[13:01] <mXr-> for a client it doesnt actually matter if all your interfaces are up or not
[13:01] <mXr-> even for most server setups that just bind to 0.0.0.0 it isnt
[13:02] <mXr-> this machine has 6 interfaces tho and the one that most openvpn instances are supposed to bind on, is not available at the time openvpn.service is started
[13:02] <mXr-> and its openvpn@.service subs .. however they work exactly :)
[13:02] <mXr-> Pici: thanks
[13:02] <mXr-> brb
[13:03] <Pici> mXr-: hrm, I don't see it where I thought I saw it yesterday.
[13:04] <mave_> the upgrade from 15.10 server to 16.04 server wiped the /var/www/html/ dir and replaced the content with a apache placeholder
[13:04] <mave_> so be warned and make backups
[13:04] <TJ-> mXr-: I've got a host multi-homed on 10 NICs with openvpn and not had an issue (so far)
[13:04] <soupnanodesukar> mXr: I had a similar thing once with using a rapberry pi as a hotspot for 4k devices.
[13:04] <stormanka> Two not super long questions on LVM http://paste.ubuntu.com/15980762/ thanks in advance!
[13:05] <soupnanodesukar> mXr-: I ended up pinging 8.8.8.8 and then bring up the wifi point when I got a respone.
[13:05] <soupnanodesukar> *response
[13:06] <mXr-> TJ-: are those openvpn instances binding to a specific address, on a nic that is not eth0?
[13:06] <mXr-> soupnanodesukar: well, uff, okay, not exactly what i was looking for, i was hoping there was a way to make network-online.target do what it is supposed to do again somehow
[13:06] <mXr-> from what i gather, it SHOULD only fire when network is fully up, but for some reason thats not the case
[13:06] <TJ-> mXr-: some of them on VLANs, on specific NICs, yes
[13:06] <mXr-> TJ-: and this is 16.04?
[13:07] <mXr-> this worked fine 2 days ago on 15.10
[13:07] <TJ-> mXr-: Yes ... I can't check it right now as I'm in the middle of fixing some 16.04 bugs on a laptop
[13:07] <mXr-> ahok
[13:09] <pbx> in the Cheese app (Ubuntu 14.04), if you right-click on an image it lists commands with keybindings... yet I can't find any way to actually use those keybindings. Am I missing something?
[13:10] <LKeDar> http://lucas0231.taledar.com/
[13:12] <bunulanfd> how to disable vsync in csgo? in windowed mode vsync is off but fullscreen vsync is on
[13:12] <Driiper> I just tried to install Ubuntu 16.04 on my SM X8DTE. but when it boots its just a black screen. any1 know what can cause this? i selected sda as my GRUB location
[13:12] <Driiper> (same location as installation)
[13:13] <deavid> i have ubuntu 14.04 and i'm considering upgrading to 16.04 lts; it is safe to do it now?
[13:13] <deavid> also, i do "do-release-upgrade" and it salys it doesnt exist a newer version
[13:13] <k1l_> !ltsupgrade | deavid
[13:13] <carpediembaby> Hello, I have a huge file (25G) and I want to split into a set number of batches. The catch is that it contains "entries" on multiple lines which are separated by empty lines. So I want to split it only on empty lines into, say 10 smaller files. I found http://stackoverflow.com/questions/22674245/bash-split-a-file-in-linux-in-10-pieces-only-by-blan
[13:13] <carpediembaby> k-lines but it seems not to work. I don't understand awk at all..
[13:14] <vooze> How long does it usually take for package to get from proposed to updates? Something like this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/llvm-toolchain-3.8/+bug/1564156
[13:14] <carpediembaby> I ran it like ./awkscript test.csv but i get an error ./awkscript:12: (FILENAME=test.csv FNR=1) fatal: division by zero attempted in `%'
[13:15] <deavid> k1l_: anyways, this is a laptop. I could dissable LTS and ask for the newer version. There's any known problem if I do this? or it is a bad idea?
[13:15] <carpediembaby> Could someone suggest what to do?
[13:15] <bunulanfd> how to disable vsync in csgo? in windowed mode vsync is off but fullscreen vsync is on
[13:15] <k1l_> deavid: if you really want  to go form 14.04 to 16.04 now you need the -d switch for the developer upgrade.
[13:15] <Pici> vooze: it depends.  If you really need the packages you could enable the proposed repo and install them.
[13:16] <vooze> Pici, Can I do that during install? The problem is that it wont boot after install, because of that bug.
[13:16] <Pici> vooze: hmm.. I don't believe so.
[13:17] <vooze> Pici :/ On the bug tracker, some guy says the installed the .deb package "though VT" what is that?
[13:17] <TJ-> with 1604 Unity shouldn't there be an icon top-right for system settings, to the right of the clock?
[13:17] <cfhowlett> virtual terminal?
[13:18] <cdidd> I installed ubuntu through debbootstrap method, then installed ubuntu-desktop with disabled Suggesteds and Recommendeds. Everything went mostly fine, but I have an issue -- app's menus are not integrated into unity, the menus are in app window, oldschool. What package I should install?
[13:18] <vooze> cfhowlett, sounds about right, I guess.
[13:21] <InstFail> Hi
[13:21] <soupnanodesukar> carpediembaby: look into head, sed, and tail. Crunching 25G of data is going to take some time no matter what you do.
[13:21] <InstFail> I have a weird problem installing ubuntu 16.04, maybe someone has an idea about that...
[13:22] <InstFail> I installed it from an iso, and after installation, I want to update the system via internet.
[13:22] <soupnanodesukar> bunulanfd: it may be your compositor unredirecting fullscreen windows in order to 'helpful'.
[13:22] <InstFail> now I sit behind a proxy, so I have configured apt to use that proxy. This same config works with 14.04 for years now.
[13:23] <soupnanodesukar> *to be
[13:23] <InstFail> but hwn I go apt-get update, I get hash sum errors, but only on a very few repos, mainly the xenial/main Packages
[13:23] <soupnanodesukar> bunulanfd: so I would look at its configuration first before fiddling around Xorg
[13:23] <MonkeyDust> InstFail  keep it in one line, that's easier to read and repeat
[13:24] <billydaz> InstFail: Maybe those repo destinations are filtered by the proxy
[13:24] <InstFail> this happens for both 32 and 64 bit. Any idea what's going on?
[13:24] <InstFail> nope. ubuntu 14.04 uses the same repo servers, no problem
[13:25] <soupnanodesukar> InstFail: your proxy has become a MITM, destroyer of packages.
[13:26] <InstFail> soupnanodesukar: and only for one specific ubuntu version, that would be rather nasty of the people running the proxy...
[13:26] <max12345> ok so I'm doing all the setup to contribute to a specific software I have an issue with, I just received the encrypted message from launchpad, but my email provider doesn't offer to decrypt it. I don't want to use an email client either. Can't be that hard to decrypt a pgp message?
[13:27] <lanoxx> do nvidia's binary drivers already support 16.04?
[13:27] <SchrodingersScat> max12345: there should be a thunderbird plugin, otherwise you can use gpg
[13:28] <k1l_> InstFail: what exact errors? please put to a pastebin
[13:28] <max12345> SchrodingersScat, ok how would I use gpg? Is there a sensible guide?
[13:28] <k1l_> lanoxx: yes
[13:28] <SchrodingersScat> !gpg | max12345
[13:29] <k1l_> lanoxx: ubuntu ships nvidia drivers in the repos. use them
[13:29] <SchrodingersScat> !man | max12345 and there's always the manual, but one of the guides should help you get up and running
[13:30] <Uhebrybdh> http://uhebrybdh.taledar.com/
[13:30] <mohamed> ?
[13:30] <lanoxx> k1l_, i have been installing the latest beta drivers from nvidia for a while on 14.04 and i was very happy with that, I am considering to update to 16.04 today and my main concern is that the nvidia drivers make trouble. Anything else I can probably fix by my self.
[13:31] <InstFail> kll_: will do, but might take a moment. I am reinstalling the 64 bit version... (installed the 32 bit version to see whether it has the same problem...)
[13:32] <k1l_> lanoxx: ubuntu 16.04 ships drivers in the repos. you can try them first.
[13:32] <k1l_> lanoxx: the latest is 361 iirc.
[13:33] <max12345> SchrodingersScat, can I not decrypt it without having to fall back on a program I don't want to use, like thunderbird? Because there are no instructions on how to do it straight away, just with email clients and whatnot.
[13:34] <k1l_> lanoxx: if you want to use the nvidia drivers from the nvidia site, then there is nothing we can do about that. its only nvidia who can look into that black box.
[13:37] <DiamondSword> hello.. everytime when I restart the ubuntu 16.04, font rendering breaks. i think it is a font render issue. i cannot find much help on net, see my screen looks like windows xp: http://1.1m.yt/xwr3_xg.png and http://2.1m.yt/Pqa-bpa.png
[13:37] <DiamondSword> this is not normal ubuntu..
[13:37] <DiamondSword> please help?
[13:38] <DiamondSword> also my files menu looks like this: http://4.1m.yt/TbtwLa4.png
[13:38] <k1l_> DiamondSword: that more looks like a theme issue
[13:38] <max12345> SchrodingersScat, got it, not by reading those instructions you linked or the manpage though.
[13:38] <DiamondSword> when I restarted the nautilus it goes fine but am I have to restart nautilus on every start-up? uhfff
[13:38] <k1l_> DiamondSword: are that only the dialogs form the chrome browser?
[13:38] <DiamondSword> k1l_, it's just a fresh install of 16.04
[13:38] <DiamondSword> what can I do please advise?
[13:39] <DiamondSword> k1l_, not just chrome, also the same on firefox.
[13:40] <k1l_> DiamondSword: maybe look intot the chrome settings to use the gtk theme
[13:40] <DiamondSword> k1l_, it's not about only chrome.
[13:41] <DiamondSword> ubuntu font looks thinner all over the system as you see on the pictures. I want to fix it please.
[13:42] <k1l_> DiamondSword: its using the wrong theme.
[13:42] <Sick> So on Debian, we can grab testing iso's weekly and update that way.  Is there the same system for Ubuntu?  We're behind a hard-core firewall and have to sneakernet our updates to our desktops.
[13:44] <Guest10501> Hi. I have small problem. I need to create iSCSI storage for some MS CLustering tests. Almost all works.
[13:45] <Guest10501> But i have not HA iSCSI target so i MS clustering does not accept is as good storage.
[13:45] <DiamondSword> k1l_, use GTK theme is already selected for chrome but I'm sure it's not just about chrome.
[13:45] <Guest10501> How can i emulate HA on iSCSI target?
[13:45] <DiamondSword> k1l_, ubuntu fonts don't look like good all over the 16.04
[13:46] <newbuntu1> hello,i updated to 16.04 from 15.10 but it feels like i have got some issues with updating,my software sources
[13:46] <jalt> Hi, where can I find correct and up-to-date info about Ubuntu's policies on shipping systemd unit files for 16.04? More precisely, why is there no example .service with vnc4server (or did I look in the wrong place?), and/or where are the instructions to create my own .service in a Ubuntu-compatible way?
[13:47] <newbuntu1> these are the pics of my "software and update" sources:  http://postimg.org/image/7qz1a3szb/     http://postimg.org/image/cp1vgsqk7/
[13:48] <InstFail> kll_: pasted here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15981523/ . Don't mind the german, the error is that the hash sum does not match. This is on a fresh install, with only the proxy config added to apt.
[13:49] <BluesKaj> newbuntu1, 12.04???
[13:49] <InstFail> kll: note that previously I have already tried to use archive.ubuntu.com instead of de.archive.ubuntu.com, but I get the same error from there, on the same packages
[13:50] <newbuntu1> BluesKaj: it's been there..i had 12.04 back then,and then i gradually updated with each new version ,they have remained there
[13:50] <newbuntu1> that's probably where some problem is?
[13:51] <BluesKaj> newbuntu1, pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[13:52] <tmwsiy_> Has there been any changes w.r.t server installs and setting up md? That never seemed to work quite like one would expect
[13:53] <newbuntu1> BluesKaj:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/15981614/
[13:54] <BluesKaj> newbuntu1, and what is the out put of lsb_release -a
[13:54] <k1l_> InstFail: "sudo rm -rf /var/lib/apt/lists/*" then "sudo apt update"
[13:55] <newbuntu1> BluesKaj:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/15981658/
[13:55] <InstFail> kll_: tried that one, too, before.
[13:55] <InstFail> kll_: same result...
[13:56] <BluesKaj> newbuntu1, those 12.04 debs are commented so apt doesn't look a them anyway, so that's not your problem
[13:57] <InstFail> kll_: strange thing is, it is only these repos, and always the same ones... other repos on the same servers work.
[13:57] <newbuntu1> ah ok,fine BluesKaj
[13:57] <BluesKaj> newbuntu1, so what are your issues exactly
[13:59] <newbuntu1> BluesKaj: after updating when i ran apt-get update i got error relating to some "weak sha1"
[13:59] <newbuntu1> then i unchecked "software packaged by canonical for partners"
[13:59] <briaperry> test
[13:59] <briaperry> test1
[13:59] <briaperry> test2
[14:00] <cfhowlett> !test | briaperry
[14:00] <Pinkamena_D> after resuming from standby I cant click on anything on the launcher or the launcher menu, but I can use the keyboard to search and select.
[14:00] <newbuntu1> BluesKaj: after unchecking that it didn't give that error
[14:00] <Pinkamena_D> I tried changing resolutions and launcher placement, and other idea how to fix?
[14:01] <Strykar> hi! I just installed ubuntu 16.04 as a vmware guest, it has 2 GB RAM but everytime I run cpan, it freezes - http://i.imgur.com/DEdRBhQ.png
[14:01] <newbuntu1> BluesKaj: now this is my apt-get update result http://paste.ubuntu.com/15981748/
[14:01] <cfhowlett> Strykar, 2 gb is possibly but you will get very poor performance especially as a guest.  try lubuntu
[14:01] <cfhowlett> or ubuntu-mate
[14:02] <newbuntu1> after cold boot from yesterday it gave 2 black screens but has been ok after that
[14:02] <InstFail> kll_: gotta run. thanks for the attempt. I'll try it over the weekend without proxy, to narrow the problem down...
[14:03] <newbuntu1> also was getting "unable to update the static FcBlanks" while updating yesterday
[14:03] <Strykar> cfhowlett, how much more could it need to run a LAMP stack? I still can't access the console in spite of it killing perl, new error messages - http://i.imgur.com/mDgCSax.png
[14:04] <Strykar> cfhowlett, this is ubuntu server, no X
[14:04] <cfhowlett> I retract my former statement then
[14:04] <n1md4> hi.  upgraded to 16.04 and want to test Mir and Unity 8, but it crashes.  Where can I watch development such that I will know sufficient progress has been made, and thus worth testing again?
[14:04] <cfhowlett> but yeah, 2gb on a server *should* be fine?  ask #ubuntu-server channel for guidance
[14:05] <Strykar> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements claims 300 MHz x86 processor + 192 MiB of system memory (RAM)    Sure dont look it
[14:05] <Strykar> thanks cfhowlett
[14:05] <cfhowlett> happy2help! Strykar k
[14:06] <briaperry> test
[14:06] <briaperry> test1
[14:06] <briaperry> test2
[14:06] <Pici> briaperry: can we help you?
[14:06] <cfhowlett> briaperry, enough.  we told you the first time that we see you
[14:06] <Strykar> cfhowlett cheers :)
[14:06] <vimes> what is up with ubuntu gnoem not updating the website? Somewhy I wanted the website to update before installing and complaining about no gnome 3.20
[14:08] <mXr-> after some more googling .. http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/244613/network-related-services-do-not-start-correctly-after-using-a-systemd-based-netw :x
[14:08] <oobartez> where can i find a list of all desktop apps available as snaps? sth like the deb repo browsers
[14:09] <kallo82> Hello
[14:09] <MonkeyDust> oobartez  i guess it's   snap find
[14:09] <oobartez> anything available online?
[14:09] <kallo82> got a query is Ubuntu 16.04 is now compatible with skylane laptops with no issues ?
[14:12] <kallo82> Anyway here ?
[14:13] <briaperry> test
[14:13] <briaperry> test1
[14:13] <briaperry> test2
[14:14] <k1l_> briaperry: please stop that in here. there is #test
[14:14] <vimes> I changed my terminal color to green for the first time in my life, I've never felt more hacker in my life.
[14:15] <MonkeyDust> vimes  try changing the font, sit back and enjoy
[14:15] <briaperry> test
[14:15] <briaperry> test1
[14:15] <briaperry> test2
[14:16] <vimes> MonkeyDust, I'll need to watch these apt-get updates and feel cool first
[14:16] <pngl> I have a problem with VSFTPD. I just added a new local user, but I can't connect with it! Existing users work fine...
[14:16] <ferendevelop> pngl: add new local user in ftp group.
[14:17] <pngl> ferendevelop: but the existing user, which works, is not in the ftp group!
[14:17] <nootilus> hello
[14:17] <effectnet> hello what is a good sftp program with multi segment
[14:18] <ferendevelop> pngl: can i see an error msg?
[14:18] <vimes> effectnet nautilus? gvfs-backends should give it sftp abilities
[14:18] <effectnet> k
[14:18] <pngl> ferendevelop: I just tried adding to group ftp, no change. The error is [username] FAIL LOGIN
[14:18] <vimes> effectnet, if you use the standard ubuntu you already have nautilus, it is your default file manager.
[14:19] <effectnet> k
[14:19] <Itry> Hello Everyone
[14:21] <pngl> ferendevelop: oh... it seems having nologin as shell is incompatible with connecting with FTP...
[14:21] <jerry> anjing kau
[14:21] <cdidd> I want a blue Ambiance or Radiance theme for Xenial. Any suggestions?
[14:21] <ferendevelop> pngl: what is your ftp client?
[14:21] <pngl> ferendevelop: filezilla
[14:22] <jerry> ngehe yuk
[14:22] <jerry> do you want ?
[14:23] <effectnet> i dont understand how to connect to sftp in the file browser
[14:23] <SonikkuAmerica> cdidd: What desktop environment are you using, Unity or something else?
[14:23] <cdidd> SonikkuAmerica: Unity
[14:23] <k1l_> effectnet: use the "connect to server" in the menu
[14:23] <effectnet> k
[14:24] <ferendevelop> pngl: try this command. "sudo useradd -G ftp [new_local_user]"
[14:24] <effectnet> hmm nice, it does work for ftp anyway
[14:24] <pngl> ferendevelop: I fixed it by adding a true shell to the user. I wanted it to have nologin, but that seems incompatible
[14:24] <ioria> pngl, you can use virtual users (no login) : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/vsftpd#The_workshop
[14:24] <SonikkuAmerica> cdidd: There's a GTK+ theme available over on DeviantArt
[14:25] <ReallyEvilRob> Hello. Just upgraded to Xenial from  Wily yesterday. I noticed that now I have "Software" in addition to "Ubuntu Software Center". Do both access the same package sources? Can I safely remove "Software Center" or is it necessary to keep both?
[14:26] <k1l_> ReallyEvilRob: ubuntu switched from their own software-center to the gnome software one.
[14:26] <k1l_> ReallyEvilRob: should both be the same
[14:26] <effectnet> wow it worked
[14:27] <effectnet> it DOES say sftp: but i thought the port was differnet...
[14:27] <SonikkuAmerica> ReallyEvilRob: I think tossing software-center can be safely recommended at this point, unless you want to preserve the ubuntu-desktop metapackage
[14:27] <k1l_> effectnet: sftp is running on the ssh service.
[14:27] <effectnet> it does say sftp
[14:27] <effectnet> k thx
[14:27] <designbybeck> In 16.04 is it more advised to use the NVIDIA Driver in Additional Drivers, or add the NVIDIA PPA?
[14:28] <ReallyEvilRob> kil_: Thank you.
[14:28] <ferendevelop> pngl: refer this link. http://serverfault.com/questions/358324/ftp-doesnt-allow-usr-sbin-nologin-user
[14:28] <k1l_> designbybeck: what doesnt work with the nvidia driver offered from ubuntu?
[14:28] <designbybeck> haven't tried either way yet k1l_ ...was just asking
[14:28] <pngl> ferendevelop: great! thanks a lot!
[14:28] <Laibsch> Is anybody aware of a program where I can plug in two global coordinates and get the distance between those points as a result?
[14:28] <k1l_> designbybeck: use the ubuntu one
[14:29] <ferendevelop> pngl: you're welcome. :)
[14:29] <designbybeck> k1l_, I need to do my laptop as well which has an NVIDIA m card but I messed stuff up
[14:29] <Itry> I am a week new to linux as a whole and I am using ubuntu. I started installing a GNUradio from the command prompt and I was about 2 hours in and just closed the lid on the lap top and went to bed. I opened the laptop up this morning and it seem like it went back to installing. Just wanted to know if that is normal for it to continue the configuration or if I would need to do something?
[14:29] <designbybeck> so I'm trying to figure out the best way k1l_ ... but on this desktop I'll use the ubuntu one. Thanks
[14:29] <effectnet> ah it's not fast, i need to turn on multisegment somehow?  heh
[14:29] <k1l_> designbybeck: the ubuntu one works for mobile nvidias too.
[14:30] <pngl> ferendevelop: I... have another issue :) I'd like the new user ("bob") to access alice's files. I tried putting a symlink /home/bob/Directory -> /home/alice/Directory, but it doesn't show up in filezilla!
[14:30] <designbybeck> I'll give it a try!
[14:31] <pngl> ferendevelop: is it dangerous to give the same home directory to 2 users?
[14:31] <billydaz> Itry: probably your syetem went to sleep  when you hibernated
[14:31] <ferendevelop> pngl: nope, refer this link. http://serverfault.com/questions/448647/symbolic-link-and-filezilla-over-sftp
[14:31] <billydaz> are you compiling or downloading from repo
[14:32] <Arie> hay ....
[14:32] <Cedara> hi
[14:32] <Arie> Iam newbie ... on linux ....
[14:32] <oobartez> is there some place where I could find fairly up-to-date statistics of most downloaded packages from the official repos?
[14:33] <torpet> Is there any real difference between using the Dropbox package directly from the Dropbox repos or can I just install nautilus-dropbox?
[14:33] <k1l_> Itry: closing the lid is usually setting it in standby
[14:33] <k1l_> torpet: since you have a .at ip: https://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Dropbox/
[14:34] <pngl> ferendevelop: thanks, I had removed the chroot! This is actually quite mysterious. I have a symlink in another directory, and this one shows up in Filezilla!
[14:34] <Mattx> Hey everyone!
[14:34] <Afforess> torpet: the dropbox package from the site is a helper that just installs nautilus-dropbox and restarts nautilus
[14:34] <Mattx> I'm installing ubuntu on a desktop computer, should I go with ext3 or ext4 for /?
[14:34] <Afforess> ext4
[14:34] <Itry> It seems like everything picked back up where it left off.
[14:34] <Itry> It is just taking forever
[14:35] <billydaz> Mattx: ext4
[14:35] <ferendevelop> pngl: very good!
[14:35] <kallo82> guys is Ubuntu 16.04 is now compatible with skylane laptops with no issues ? is it stable yet for business use ?
[14:35] <brainwash> !ext4
[14:35] <Itry> but in the prompt it even says this will take a while
[14:35] <Afforess> kallo82: the skylake issues were with the kernel, and those are solved in linux 4.4, which ubuntu 16.04 ships with
[14:35] <Afforess> so in theory, its solved
[14:36] <billydaz> Itry: can you open anoder terminal while the first is running
[14:36] <ayan> Mattx: http://askubuntu.com/questions/44908/what-is-the-difference-between-ext3-ext4-from-a-generic-users-prespective
[14:36] <oceanx_> hi after upgrading to 16.04 I cannot see most of the panels in unity-control-center (I do start unity-settings-daemon in i3 config) anyone experiencing the same issue?
[14:36] <Ccdc_DuckZ> hi, is there a package on ubuntu like postgresql-client-dev or something? I can only see postgresql-client but my cmake project still complains about not findi postgre libraries
[14:36] <kallo82> Afforess: and is it stable to use for business last time i tried it two days ago it has swap issue and was very heavy
[14:36] <Itry> Yea just did
[14:36] <pngl> ferendevelop: I just changed bob's home directory so that it lands right where I want. It's *inside* alice's. Is it a problem?
[14:36] <billydaz> top
[14:37] <nebg> hello everyone what are the files who start with "abi" in the boot directory ? i read somehting online but didn't understad anything
[14:37] <Afforess> kallo82: I will admit the upgrade to 16.04 did not go smoothly, but I then went with a fresh install and that seems better
[14:37] <nebg> can somebody explain it to me ?
[14:37] <Pici> Ccdc_DuckZ: I'd guess postgresql-server-dev-all
[14:37] <Afforess> nebg: thats the Application Binary Interface
[14:37] <Afforess> nebg: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Application_binary_interface
[14:37] <Ccdc_DuckZ> Pici: thanks I'll try that
[14:38] <kallo82> Afforess: ill definitely go with fresh install and this is what i did last time, but is it still heavy and use too much resources ?
[14:38] <Pici> Ccdc_DuckZ: its the only -dev package that the source package for postgresql-client builds.
[14:38] <Afforess> kallo82: 'heavy' is all relative. I can't really say, I'm on a high-endish system
[14:39] <ayan> nebg: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/BuildSystem/ABI
[14:39] <Afforess> its smooth on 16GB RAM, 4 cores is all I can say kallo82.
[14:39] <Ccdc_DuckZ> Pici: it worked :)
[14:39] <carpediembaby> 16.04 is not out yet?
[14:39] <Pici> Ccdc_DuckZ: yay!
[14:39] <RPK12> Hey guys, When upgrading Ubuntu to 16.04, I get a message that says "169 packages are no longer supported by Canonical. You can still get support from the community."
[14:39] <Afforess> carpediembaby: it is out as of yesterday
[14:39] <RPK12> What does that mean?
[14:39] <k1l_> !isitoutyet | carpediembaby
[14:40] <Afforess> RPK12: that those packages used to be 'official' and are now 'community', just that the maintainers changed
[14:40] <kallo82> Afforess: it started to be smooth, but its takes like 90% of cpu when i open youtube video or open android studio and Phpstorm , was this resolved ?
[14:40] <carpediembaby> Afforess: I am not able to get it. do-release-upgrade says No new release found (I am on 14.04)
[14:40] <RPK12> Afforess: So I just go ahead with the install right? Nothing to worry about?
[14:40] <kallo82> Afforess: mine is skylane i5 8G DDR4 ram
[14:40] <k1l_> !ltsupgrade | carpediembaby
[14:40] <Afforess> kallo82: that sounds like video drivers issues... I haven't seen issues as long as I install the 3rd party drivers
[14:41] <kallo82> Afforess: i installed flashplayer-plugin
[14:41] <Afforess> You can always try the live disk and just see if acts oddly
[14:41] <carpediembaby> k1l_: aha. I thought it will be out at the same time. Thanks.
[14:41] <k1l_> carpediembaby: the LTS upgrade is always opened for the 16.04.1 release 3 months later
[14:41] <Myrtti> it actually makes sense for it to not be out at the same time
[14:41] <ferendevelop> pngl: in my opinion, that act is not make problem.
[14:42] <pngl> ferendevelop: thanks :)
[14:42] <RPK12> It says software-center will no longer be maintained but its not in the remove list, does that mean I'll have both software-center and gnome-software? :o
[14:44] <ThePendulum> It's not working
[14:46] <ThePendulum> I've been looking to install Ubuntu 16.04, but I can't get my second monitor to work properly. They're both the exact same displays, yet the former works fine in 1920x1080 mode, the other just goes black with an occasional warning about the wrong timing being used. It does work in another mode, e.g. 1280x1024, but that's obviously not how I want to use it
[14:48] <rcasey> Anyone else seeing display manager ("unity-control-center display") crashing in 16.04?
[14:49] <rcasey> I'm getting "ERROR:gsd-rr-config.c:661:gsd_rr_config_load_current: assertion failed: (gsd_rr_config_match (config, config)   Aborted (core dumped)"
[14:49] <kallo82> guys have you ever monitored hgih resources usage on ubuntu 16.04 ?
[14:49] <kallo82> i have only tried the beta 2 version
[14:49] <kallo82> only
[14:50] <ThePendulum> the live cd isn' t using any spectacular amounts
[14:50] <crucerio> kernel panic after do-release-upgrade  from 15.10 to 16.04. can only boot with old kernel, what can I do to get make 16.04 work?
[14:51] <nickabbey> hey all.  In trusty, I've created a .deb to install python 2.7.11. I'm wondering how I'd go about making it the default python interpreter for either a single user or the whole system. Is there maybe an option in update-alternatives that I don't know about for python interpreter?
[14:53] <rcasey> Hey @nickabbey - I think this link should help https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-change-from-default-to-alternative-python-version-on-debian-linux
[14:53] <torpet> Afforess, I just checked the contents of the official dropbox package and it contains a nautiluis shared library
[14:54] <nickabbey> rcasey: perfect, thanks!
[14:54] <rcasey> np
[14:55] <ThePendulum> bummer, seems like I won't be able to upgrade any time soon if this issue persists
[14:59] <Gjax> hmm after the upgrade to xenial I cant get to install the new kernel
[14:59] <Gjax> missing dpkg --configure linux-image-generic
[15:02] <katie1231> I'd like to install ubuntu 16.04 on my desktop computer. I downloaded the file and verified the integrity of the download. Now I want to make a bootable usb, is it necessary to convert the .iso file that I downloaded to .img?
[15:02] <ThePendulum> katie1231:  you can use a tool like unetbootin with the iso directly
[15:02] <Gjax> yes it is much easier
[15:03] <ThePendulum> it'll make the drive bootable and everything
[15:03] <ThePendulum> not sure if unetbootin is still the de facto tool, but it still does the job for me
[15:03] <Gjax> either that or download and img and use win32diskimager
[15:03] <katie1231> i am pretty comfortable using terminal on my mac and running the sudo dd command to copy the files over to my usb drive. It's still okay to use the .iso file right?
[15:04] <Gjax> if you are confident of what you are doing then sure
[15:05] <katie1231> yea copying the files over isn't hard. I've just read mixed things on if i have to convert the download to .img or if .iso is fine
[15:05] <ThePendulum> hmm I should try swapping my monitors, see if it' s an issue specific to DVI-I
[15:05] <nilla_wafer> the iso is fine as is
[15:05] <katie1231> great thanks.
[15:08] <ThePendulum> Seems like it's indeed not the specific monitor
[15:09] <Gjax> stupid raspberry pi... cant install new kernel
[15:10] <Gjax> anyone with any tips on this?
[15:10] <Ccdc_DuckZ> any pointers on how to install a recent version of clang on ubuntu 14.04.4 please?
[15:10] <MonkeyDust> Gjax  #ubuntu-arm or #raspberrypi
[15:10] <__raven> lotuspsychje: sorry i had to leave. textboot did not work for normal boot methods. dont know if it was a kind of race condition but i will try to figure out some text using recovery boot method when i am back at place
[15:13] <ThePendulum> No idea how to approach this, my DVI-D monitor works fine, the exact same one on DVI-I goes black and reports timing issues in 1920x1080 mode
[15:13] <Gjax> meh
[15:13] <akik> what changed between nvidia-352 and nvidia-361? nvidia-361 wants me to disable secure boot which nvidia-352 didn't require
[15:14] <ThePendulum> Swapping them also transfers the issue to the other monitor
[15:19] <akik> and what's with this "third-party drivers incompatible with secure boot"
[15:20] <TJ-> ThePendulum: if it is only DVI-I then it's basically analogue VGA. what modes does the monitor support in analog modes? what does "xrandr -q" report for modes when that is connected?
[15:21] <oceanx_> l
[15:21] <TJ-> akik: the nvidia packages require to build a shim kernel module, which cannot be signed by the Ubuntu module signing key
[15:22] <ThePendulum> TJ-: http://sprunge.us/MbNb
[15:22] <TJ-> ThePendulum: will the DVI-I output work if you drop back to lower resolution?
[15:23] <TJ-> ThePendulum: it may be the monitor is not advertising correct modelines in VGA mode, or it could be the GPU not setting up the CRTC timings/modelines correctly
[15:23] <akik> TJ-: i said no to the question about secure boot and according to Xorg.0.log nvidia kernel module is active?
[15:23] <lai> hello all
[15:23] <ThePendulum> TJ-: I indeed get it working in I think all modes but 1920x1080
[15:23] <lai> does anyone know where the xml config for pam goes in 16.04?
[15:23] <ThePendulum> haven't tried all of them, but it does work in 1280x1024 atm
[15:24] <oceanx_> for anyone experiencing the same issue, XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP=Unity fixes the unity-control-center panels disappearing when using i3 (or any env different from unity)
[15:24] <TJ-> ThePendulum: that sounds like a modeline/timing issue then. The EDID sent by the monitor to the GPU is incorrect in some way by the sound of it
[15:24] <TJ-> ThePendulum: does Xorg.0.log show that the EDID was received correctly (no reports of corruption, being ignored) ?
[15:24] <ThePendulum> TJ-: wouldn't this issue be separate from the OS then?
[15:25] <bozsikarmand> Hi! I would like to perform a clean install of 16.04. I have an ASUS M5A97 R2.0 / FX-8320 / 32GB RAM / GTX960 / SSD rig so I would like to ask should I prepare for any incompatibilities? Current nvidia drivers are working well on the system? Thanks.
[15:25] <ThePendulum> let me find that file
[15:25] <TJ-> ThePendulum: if it's a corner-case where the EDID and the GPU can't quite agree, it could be a driver issue. sometimes the GPU driver will round-up the values provided. The file is /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[15:26] <TJ-> bozsikarmand: if there's some spare space you can use with LVM, you could install into a separate LV to test it
[15:26] <lai> nice rig bozsikarmand
[15:26] <ThePendulum> TJ-: don' t think it's reporting any errors, but then again, I'm not entirely sure how to look at this data http://sprunge.us/VTMZ
[15:27] <TJ-> ThePendulum: can you "pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log"
[15:28] <ThePendulum> TJ-: whops, didn' t notice so much got cut off http://paste.ubuntu.com/15983423/
[15:28] <Andr3w> Hey guys! Just upgraded to 16.04 and my Nvidia drivers are not working... Tried to install 361 for my 840M but I get a blank screen on reboot. nouveau works fine if I pure the Nvidia packages. Found this online (http://bit.ly/1XMKcwK), I get the same "A start job is running for Hold" message on boot. Any advise?
[15:29] <lai> Andr3w, how did you upgrade?
[15:29] <ThePendulum> still doesn' t seem to report edid without any errors
[15:29] <lai> with -d ?
[15:29] <Andr3w> yes
[15:29] <lai> :/
[15:29] <lai> Tried that myself
[15:29] <Andr3w> update-manager -d
[15:29] <TJ-> ThePendulum: that seems to confirm it, and show xrandr is reporting a wrong mode. Notice the EDID for the DVI-I does *not* list 1920x1080 but the GPU drivers adds it later
[15:30] <lai> totally fucked my ,machine
[15:30] <lai> had to do a clean install
[15:30] <lotuspsychje> lai: lets keep it familly friendly plz
[15:30] <lai> :)
[15:30] <ubuntu-mate> whats up guys
[15:30] <TJ-> ThePendulum: oh sorry, it does report 1920x1080 (line 492) !
[15:30] <ThePendulum> TJ-: it doesn' t seem to for either display, though?
[15:30] <ThePendulum> ah
[15:30] <ubuntu-mate> anyone with the new ubuntu mate? Should I install it as my primary OS? Problems/
[15:30] <bozsikarmand> lai, Thanks. I am just asking because I can see various (mostly blank screen) errors related to Secure Boot and nvidia drivers, like: http://askubuntu.com/questions/760374/ubuntu-16-04-nvidia-driver-blank-screen
[15:31] <lai> after myu experience, I'm unsurprised
[15:31] <TJ-> ThePendulum: what's the quality of the cable and connectors on the DVI-I link? Can you try an alternative cable?
[15:31] <ThePendulum> yep I see it now
[15:31] <Mattx> Ok, so I installed Ubuntu on a computer running Win10. I followed a guide saying I should run grub-install /dev/sda, and now it doesn't boot, not even linux -.-
[15:31] <lai> if you want to upgrade without issue, I'm thinking you're going to neede to wait for 16.04.1
[15:31] <ThePendulum> TJ-: hmm, I suppose I could swap the cables on both ends
[15:32] <Cedara> lai : that always seems to be the best idea
[15:32] <Andr3w> I have my secure boot disabled and still get the black screen with nvidia drivers
[15:32] <Mattx> Any guidea you recommend to fix booting problems?
[15:32] <rcasey> I managed to temporarily work around my issue with monitor layout by reverting to the proprietary NVIDIA driver (361) and unplugging one of my monitors.
[15:32] <Mattx> guide*
[15:32] <TJ-> ThePendulum: at the top-end of the frequencies (for higher resolutions) cable quality can affect things (bad cables == more crosstalk/interference resulting in lower signal-to-noise ratio)
[15:33] <ubuntu-mate> I had the same problem with WIndows
[15:33] <TJ-> ThePendulum: the fact 1280x1024 works tends to point towards that, or a problem with the monitor itself in analog mode
[15:33] <Mattx> ubuntu-mate, what did you do?
[15:33] <ubuntu-mate> Boot repair
[15:33] <ubuntu-mate> and it solved it partly
[15:33] <rcasey> Oddly enough when I plug in two external monitors Display crashes immediately. Something else seems to be going on as xrandr only recognizes two of them, but if I run XFCE (rather than Unity) I can configure all three.
[15:34] <Mattx> ubuntu-mate, partly?
[15:34] <ubuntu-mate> too boot everytime had to use F12 for the menu
[15:34] <lotuspsychje> rcasey: tried an xrandr --auto ?
[15:34] <ThePendulum> TJ-: then I suppose both cables would have to be bad though, but good enough to work elsewhere? I swapped them at the GPU end and the issue transferred to the other monitor
[15:35] <TJ-> rcasey: xrandr (tool) shouldn't have an issue with that, I use a system with 6 monitors and its fine, but it could be something to do with the auto-reconfigure code and/or the GUI display applet
[15:35] <TJ-> ThePendulum: that does sound like the cable then, if the problem followed the cable
[15:35] <mXr-> anyone have an idea how to workaround this bug in 16.04 please msg me.. the post is not mine, i have the same problem, but i see it with pure ipv4 stuff too. http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/209832/debian-systemd-network-online-target-not-working
[15:36] <enhance> anyone use the arc theme? the transparency does not seem to be working for me
[15:36] <TJ-> ThePendulum: if its a straight DVI-I to DVI-I maybe something as simple as removing it and swapping ends, and tightening the thumbscrews (if any) will be enough
[15:36] <ThePendulum> TJ-: huh, no, it didn' t follow the cable :P
[15:36] <TJ-> ThePendulum: it could just need the pins scraping a bit, to get a better contact
[15:37] <TJ-> ThePendulum: I thought you said you swapped connections at the GPU end and problem transferred to the other monitor?
[15:37] <ThePendulum> the issue was on monitor B, I plugged monitor B into socket A, and the issue was resolved
[15:37] <ThePendulum> the cable for monitor B didn't change
[15:37] <ThePendulum> unless I' m missing something
[15:38] <echelon> hi, is selinux enabled by default?
[15:38] <wyoung> hi gang
[15:38] <ThePendulum> TJ-: I kept them plugged into their respective monitors, I just swapped them at the GPU; each monitor still had the same cable, but the issue transferred
[15:39] <ThePendulum> which implies both cables are capable of carrying a good signal?
[15:39] <reisio> echelon: I wouldn't think so, no
[15:39] <ThePendulum> I' m doubting myself now :P
[15:40] <rcasey> lotuspsychje: interesting - I wasn't familiar with 'xrandr --auto'.  That tells me it can't find a preferred mode
[15:40] <rcasey> Something may of gone wrong with that
[15:40] <ThePendulum> ahh, dead keys, much better
[15:40] <sorinello> Hello. I have an issue with 16.04 when I want to upgrade. Update Manager tells me there is a new version, I clock on upgrade, insert my password, then the window disappears and nothing happens.
[15:41] <lotuspsychje> sorinello: can you try from a terminal?
[15:41] <sorinello> lotuspsychje, yes. so should I gksudo update-manager ?
[15:41] <lotuspsychje> sorinello: sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade
[15:42] <sorinello> lotuspsychje, trying now,
[15:42] <leagris> Guys who decide what packages Ubuntu distribute. Please don't kill or remove Compiz compatibility as it has been mentioned on a recent Slashdot interview. I _need_ Compiz for its E-Zoom feature with no equal quality and featured replacement.
[15:43] <k1l_> leagris: compiz will be shipped as long as xorg is used
[15:43] <sorinello> lotuspsychje, I ran the 2 commands. Some packages were updated, but that's it. no dist upgrade
[15:44] <leagris> k1l_, good. Though, this one is targeted for replacement with other Graphic layers.
[15:44] <lotuspsychje> sorinello: did you have daily or beta2?
[15:44] <sorinello> I have 15.10
[15:44] <sorinello> lotuspsychje, I have 15.10
[15:44] <lotuspsychje> oh
[15:44] <wyoung> hi sorinello
[15:44] <k1l_> leagris: there will be no compiz after xorg. but wayland or mir will have other replacements for that
[15:44] <sorinello> lotuspsychje, ok, it seems that Update Manager is working now
[15:44] <dbarros> is there any app to control session time for a guest session?
[15:45] <sorinello> hi wyoung
[15:45] <lotuspsychje> !yay | sorinello
[15:45] <davido_> smart_girl is a bot that sends messages to people who join #ubuntu advertising some software.
[15:45] <HackerII> ^
[15:45] <sorinello> lotuspsychje, I guess I was needing some update for Software Updater
[15:45] <Pici> davido_: thanks for the heads up
[15:45] <TJ-> ThePendulum: sorry, lost connection there. did you get my "first things first..." message?
[15:45] <davido_> yw
[15:46] <ThePendulum> TJ-: <TJ-> ThePendulum: I thought you said you swapped connections at the GPU end and problem transferred to the other monitor?
[15:46] <ThePendulum> last thing I got before you DC'd
[15:46] <TJ-> ThePendulum: first things first. Does the GPU have 2 DVI-I links (some outputs are DVI-D only and don't have analog), the other thing I was wondering was if one output is dual-link (works) and one is single-link (has problems)
[15:46] <TJ-> ThePendulum: I'm wondering if one of your cables is combined DVI-D/A so on the DVI-I capable output it may use DVI-D (and therefor work).
[15:46] <leagris> k1l_, There is currently no Magnify feature that work on anything, dynamically follow mouse movement and is VSYNC smooth synchronised.
[15:46] <fubb1> hi im trying to install chrome on ubuntu 16.04 i download .deb and press install in Ubuntu Software but nothing happens :(
[15:46] <k1l_> leagris: xorg will be there long time still.
[15:47] <leagris> hope so
[15:47] <sedris> Hello. Is there any way to backup my Ubuntu system, not only /home and restore if any problem occurs and Ubuntu doesn't boot?
[15:47] <lotuspsychje> !backup | sedris
[15:47] <james> Hi GUy's I'm having issue using ubuntu software center this what it say Software can't be installed or removed because the authentication service is not available. (org.freedesktop.PolicyKit.Error.Failed: ('system-bus-name', {'name':  ':1.98'}): org.debian.apt.install-or-remove-packages
[15:47] <Guest69166> org.debian.apt.install-or-remove-packages
[15:47] <reisio> leagris: I find Xfce's xfwm's zoom feature to actually be superior
[15:47] <squinty> fubb1,  you can downlaod the chrome deb package and then use gdebi to install it
[15:48] <reisio> leagris: and crazy less buggy
[15:48] <reisio> leagris: give it a try
[15:48] <sedris> !cloning
[15:48] <ThePendulum> TJ-: I'm using their original cables which I'm confident to assume are identical; and the GPU has one DVI-D and one DVI-I output. Let me try and find out which is which
[15:48] <Guest69166> oops hi guys I'm having issue with ubuntu software center Software can't be installed or removed because the authentication service is not available. (org.freedesktop.PolicyKit.Error.Failed: ('system-bus-name', {'name':  ':1.98'}): org.debian.apt.install-or-remove-packages
[15:48] <sedris> !automate
[15:48] <lotuspsychje> Guest69166: ubuntu version?
[15:48] <Guest69166> 16.04
[15:48] <leagris> reisio, does it move the zoomed area prorpotionally to pointer location?
[15:49] <fubb1> squinty: hmm ok there are problems with software center in 16.04? :)
[15:49] <lotuspsychje> Guest69166: up to date to latest?
[15:49] <Guest69166> well was working for me until i did all kind of stuff LOL
[15:49] <Guest69166> but i doubt any of those things i did will break it
[15:49] <TJ-> ThePendulum: looking at the connectors, the DVI-I (analog capable) will have one end with a large cross with pins in its four quadrants
[15:49] <lotuspsychje> Guest69166: and what did you do exactly?
[15:50] <squinty> fubb1,  seems to be the odd buglet   others are experiencing problems with it too
[15:50] <Guest69166> well i installed cinnamon, cairo dock, some themes
[15:50] <Mattx> I couldn't run boot-repair to fix my booting problems. it says no module named gi found
[15:51] <Mattx> "ImportError: no module named gi"
[15:51] <reisio> leagris: yes
[15:51] <Guest69166> i did did this last
[15:51] <reisio> leagris: I noticed it doing it before compiz did, even
[15:51] <sv2241> I've installed 16.04 LTS in a VM and after install vmware tools, I'm getting this error when executing /usr/bin/vmware-user: vmware-user: could not open /proc/fs/vmblock/dev. help?
[15:51] <reisio> anyway, compiz is GPL, it'll only die if nobody wants it
[15:51] <Guest69166> I did a sudo apt-get --purge --reinstall install software-center software-properties-common software-properties-gtk
[15:52] <m0dd3r> hello
[15:52] <lotuspsychje> Guest69166: software-center has been removed, its ubuntu-software now
[15:52] <leagris> reisio, will give it a try
[15:52] <Mattx> ubuntu-mate_, did you have that problem with boot-repair?
[15:52] <Ryu945> how do i do a complete reinstall.  For some reason, when I uninstall something for the second time and reinstall it; it does not do everything the first time it is installed
[15:53] <lotuspsychje> !details | Ryu945
[15:53] <ThePendulum> TJ-: the cables themselves are both DVI-D dual link it seems
[15:53] <Guest69166> then why did it installed ubuntu software center from start?
[15:53] <ThePendulum> well, doesn't just seem
[15:53] <ThePendulum> that's what they are
[15:54] <ThePendulum> and they're identical
[15:54] <Ryu945> i messed up a folder placed in the home when you first install a program.  When I uninstalled that program and reinstalled it. It did not place that folder in home like it did on the first install
[15:54] <Guest69166> how do i install ubuntu software?
[15:54] <m0dd3r> how do i run autocad in ubuntu ?
[15:54] <TJ-> ThePendulum: ok, so you have 2 DVI-I connectors, but the driver says one is only DVI-D ... that's fine, it just means a DVI-I cable will connect even on the DVI-D connector... confused yet!?
[15:54] <lotuspsychje> Guest69166: sudo apt install ubuntu-software
[15:55] <lotuspsychje> !info ubuntu-software
[15:55] <echelon> reisio: thanks
[15:55] <lotuspsychje> m0dd3r: there is a nice alternative, blender if you like
[15:55] <m0dd3r> how do i run autocad in ubuntu ?
[15:55] <Ryu945> what that any clearer?
[15:56] <m0dd3r> is blender good for 2d drafting and building planning ?
[15:56] <TJ-> ThePendulum: what exact model is the GPU? the Xorg log doesn't say
[15:56] <reisio> m0dd3r: it's not /really/ meant for that
[15:56] <TJ-> ThePendulum: this may help if you get confused by the DVI permutations of connectors, signals, and cables https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Visual_Interface
[15:56] <reisio> m0dd3r: there are a number of 2d cad packages you could try
[15:57] <ThePendulum> TJ-: yeah it's just a full grid with a single flat pin
[15:57] <ThePendulum> TJ-: it's an R9 380
[15:57] <Guest69166> ic
[15:57] <lotuspsychje> m0dd3r: https://www.blender.org/features/
[15:57] <reisio> m0dd3r: only to name a few: http://alternativeto.net/software/autocad/?license=opensource&platform=linux
[15:57] <Guest69166> how do i make a short cut so it can be in my menu?
[15:57] <ThePendulum> Sapphire Radeon R9 380 4GB Nitro
[15:57] <reisio> Guest69166: the launcher?
[15:57] <TJ-> m0dd3r: depending on how detailed you need to be, the (former Google) Sketchup running via WINE is useful
[15:58] <Guest69166> when i do a search doesn't come out but if i type gnome-software
[15:58] <Guest69166>  it loads up?
[15:58] <ThePendulum> I've used sketchup via whine, it's not bad, but for me there was an awful lot of tearing
[15:58] <reisio> TJ-: :/ :p
[15:59] <Ryu945> anyone?
[15:59] <Ryu945> I thought reinstalling a program wouldn't be hard O.O
[15:59] <lotuspsychje> Ryu945: what program? wich ubuntu version?
[15:59] <Ryu945> lotuspsychje: playonlinux
[16:00] <Ryu945> lotuspsychje: 3.19.0-32-generic
[16:00] <TJ-> ThePendulum: AMD don't seem to give the exact specs for the 380 as to the connectors
[16:01] <sedris> Does anyone encounter issues while suspending their PC/laptop? Every time I close the lid of my laptop I end up with a black screen, all lights/fan are on and it doesn't go to sleep. I have to shutdown the laptop from the hardware button or by unplugging the laptop. I'm currently running Ubuntu 16.04 LTS (fresh install).
[16:01] <lotuspsychje> Ryu945: and you have trouble uninstalling playonlinux or a sub-program for it?
[16:01] <Nacioss> Hi, I've installed Ubuntu 16.04 yesterday and I've not idea of how to install OpenCL for AMD Radeon
[16:02] <ubuntu376> Hey guys
[16:02] <ThePendulum> TJ-: I'm actually trying to wrap my head around this; DVI-I cables are the ones with :|: pins... and one of my GPU ports only supports DVI-I
[16:02] <ThePendulum> the cables are DVI-D, how does this even work at all?
[16:02] <reisio> ubuntu376: sup
[16:02] <TJ-> ThePendulum: DVI-I means it supports analog (VGA) signals (as well as digital)
[16:02] <ubuntu376> A question to the experienced Ubuntu Users: Will Ubunt 16.04 run on this laptop: https://msi.com/Notebook/GE62-6QF-Apache-Pro.html#hero-overview ?
[16:02] <ThePendulum> TJ-: right, and it uses those smaller pins for the analogue signal?
[16:03] <reisio> sedris: you need to make sure your BIOS prefs for suspend match your (software) power manager's prefs
[16:03] <TJ-> ThePendulum: a DVI-D output only sends digital signals even if the connectors all have the analog pins
[16:03] <reisio> sedris: play around with combinations
[16:03] <TJ-> ThePendulum: correct
[16:03] <ThePendulum> TJ-: right, that won't be used for either then since the cables don't have those pins
[16:03] <sedris> well it was working fine on 15.10
[16:03] <wyoung> ubuntu376: ubuntu 16.04 came out yesterday, so the most experience a person can have in ubuntu 16.04 is a day
[16:03] <TJ-> ThePendulum: so, it would be good if we can verify what signals are on the GPU's outputs. According to the driver we know it looks like 1 is DVI-D only
[16:03] <Guest69166> ubuntu376 download the iso of ubuntu and burn it into a cd or usb then try it ur self it will log u into ubuntu u will see there if it work without installing
[16:04] <TJ-> ThePendulum: are you saying both your cables lack the -|- part? in which case both connections are pure digital
[16:04] <lotuspsychje> ubuntu376: i dont think it will be a problem
[16:04] <Ryu945> sedris: this may help.  https://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/mint-cinnamon-first  look for the word "suspend"
[16:04] <wyoung> ubuntu376: Do you consider a days worth of experience to be an experienced user?
[16:04] <rcasey> Monitors still aren't working right - any idea why I can't add a new mode using xrandr?
[16:04] <ThePendulum> TJ-: yes, they're both DVI-D :::::: -
[16:04] <ThePendulum> the cables
[16:05] <sedris> Ryu945: okay thanks
[16:05] <ubuntu376> wyoung: Oh okay. Well there were problems with the last Ubuntu Version, it always was frozen :/ If you google "ubuntu msi ge 62 6qf" there will be many problems. Example: http://askubuntu.com/questions/692673/getting-ubuntu-working-properly-on-msi-ge62-6qf
[16:05] <rcasey> Tried using gtf to grab a modeline and adding it but it was rejected with "invalid parameter attributes"
[16:05] <TJ-> ThePendulum: the monitor OSD ought to confirm which signal input it is receiving... if both are digital, then my original suspiscion about signal interference/quality comes back
[16:05] <ubuntu376> So my question is if there is a chance that this problem will not occur in the new Ubuntu version. Maybe because of the new Linux Kernel or something?
[16:05] <Ryu945> lotuspsychje: It goes through installation fine but when i check on the installation, i see it didn't install everything.  The home folder is places is missing
[16:06] <mcphail> ubuntu376: the odds are not high that anyone on here would know about that specific device
[16:06] <ThePendulum> TJ-: I can't access the OSD properly when I feed it the 1920x1080 signal, it forces me into the input choice menu
[16:06] <lotuspsychje> Ryu945: wich folder is that exactly you need, thats missing?
[16:06] <wyoung> ubuntu376: You could try not buying a cheap laptop from a cheap company, I have had no issues with toshiba, asus or HP
[16:07] <TJ-> ThePendulum: at high resolution the bit-rate in the signals is higher... so now you need to discover if both links are using "dual-link" (double data rate) or "single-link" signalling. If one is "single-link", with 1920x1080 being its max supported resolution, any problem on that link would cause the symptoms you've had... switching down to 1280x1024 backs off enough not to suffer
[16:07] <wyoung> ubuntu376: you get what you pay for
[16:07] <TJ-> ThePendulum: you can check in 1280x1024 mode too, you're just going to confirm that the input is digital, not analog, regardless of the resolution
[16:07] <reisio> sedris: sometimes the proprietary _graphics_ drivers cause issues /similar/ to that, but it's usually to do with the display not working upon resume, so I doubt that's it
[16:07] <ubuntu376> mcphail: Well asking doesn't cost anything, maybe someone here has a MSI laptop with Ubuntu running on it
[16:07] <TJ-> ThePendulum: but from what you've told us about the connectors it's almost certain both are digital
[16:07] <ThePendulum> TJ-: and the different drivers in 16.04 are lacking certain compensations that this issue is isolated?
[16:08] <ubuntu376> wyoung: I dont think that MSI is cheap. Or did I misunderstand you?
[16:08] <wyoung> ubuntu376: cheap components I meant
[16:08] <Ryu945> lotuspsychje: it is missing the .playonlinux folder.  That contains scripts it runs on, wineprefix, wine verseion etc...
[16:09] <wyoung> ubuntu376: oh no I wasn't saying they didn't know how to charge  :)
[16:09] <ThePendulum> TJ-: I'm quite confident the monitors themselves don't supprt DVI-I
[16:09] <wyoung> they like profit
[16:09] <sedris> reisio: hmm, so what can I do at this moment? My laptop has 2 graphic cards, but lspci shows only AMD one
[16:09] <lotuspsychje> Ryu945: you sure its not a hidden folder?
[16:09] <reisio> sedris: I just said that probably isn't it :p
[16:09] <reisio> sedris: go into your power manager prefs, and try different combinations
[16:09] <ThePendulum> TJ-: the connectors on the monitors are DVI-D, and DVI-D is the only listed in the specs
[16:10] <ThePendulum> TJ-: 1280x1024 mode is the one I've been using so far
[16:10] <ubuntu376> wyoung: Well the components are really good in this Laptop, like NVIDIA 970M or Skylake Processor. I think that's why it could give problems with Ubuntu, but I need good components for my job
[16:10] <Ryu945> lotuspsychje: i checked, its not there on the reinstall
[16:10] <Ryu945> wyoung: are you saying msi laptops are made of low quality parts?
[16:10] <ThePendulum> TJ-: it only list VGA, DVI-D and DisplayPort, with DVI-D checked
[16:11] <sv2241> When executing /usr/bin/vmware-user I'm getting the following error: vmware-user: could not open /proc/fs/vmblock/dev. ubuntu 16.04 LTS/vmware. any ideas on how to fix this issue?
[16:11] <TJ-> ThePendulum: right, so I'm going to go with 1) bad cable 2) abnormal interference locally 3) dodgy pins on one link (either in the GPU or monitor, or on the cable itself)
[16:11] <wyoung> ubuntu376: hmmmm, I like NVIDIA
[16:11] <wyoung> Ryu945: usually
[16:11] <mahunityyy> ubuntu 16.04lts wifi logo is an updown arrow instead of wifi bars --how do i reset it?
[16:11] <wyoung> Ryu945: from the amount of MSI laptops I have had to RMA
[16:12] <Ryu945> wyoung: head desk...  guess what I got.  I wonder if its related to the random freeze ups
[16:12] <lotuspsychje> mahunityyy: sudo service network-manager restart
[16:12] <ubuntu376> wyoung: Yes for sure, well I might just try it out. Need to backup my data first however
[16:12] <mahunityyy> lotuspsychje: thx ill try it
[16:12] <wyoung> ubuntu376: ok
[16:12] <wyoung> smart move
[16:13] <net> .
[16:13] <Ryu945> wyoung: strangely only linux has random freeze up.  The duel boot with windows 7 pro doesn't
[16:13] <trevor_s> anyone know how to disable regular users from installing firefox addons?
[16:13] <trevor_s> in ubuntu
[16:13] <wyoung> net use /DELETE
[16:14] <wyoung> Ryu945: ah, dual boot, that explains it
[16:14] <tgm4883> trevor_s: I don't think you can. Those would get installed to their home directory
[16:14] <trevor_s> tgm4883, interesting
[16:14] <Ryu945> wyoung: explains what?
[16:14] <mahunityyy> lotuspsychje:  YOU ROCK thx lotus you fixed it have a great weekend :)
[16:14] <lotuspsychje> !yay
[16:14] <tgm4883> trevor_s: I suppose you could possibly make that directory read only
[16:14] <tgm4883> trevor_s: but I've not tried it
[16:15] <trevor_s> tgm4883, what directory?
[16:15] <Ryu945> lotuspsychje: so what should I do to get the program to reinstall and place that folder in home as it did on the first install
[16:15] <tgm4883> trevor_s: whichever one it installs plugins to. Probably ~/.mozilla/something
[16:15] <geneios> genios
[16:15] <wyoung> Ryu945: explains why you are having issues
[16:15] <ThePendulum> TJ-: bad cable or interference doesn't really add up to the issue transferring when they are swapped, and dodgy pins, well, the look fine to me and work in any other context :p
[16:15] <lotuspsychje> Ryu945: try the #playonlinux channel, they might know that part
[16:15] <ThePendulum> and the GPU is brand new
[16:16] <TJ-> ThePendulum: then that only leaves GPU driver not generating the correct modeline signals
[16:16] <ThePendulum> yeah, I would be very surprised this is a physical issue
[16:16] <Ryu945> lotuspsychje: i just want the linux command that installs everything completely fresh as if it was never on the system before
[16:16] <TJ-> ThePendulum: but in my extensive experience these issues are almost always physical - poor connections, connectors, or cables
[16:17] <ThePendulum> TJ-: but then something in the driver must be uncovering it
[16:17] <ThePendulum> and I'm not sure what that could be
[16:17] <gremlyn> anyone else have a problem with mysql-server not installing on the upgrade?
[16:17] <OerHeks> trevor_s, maybe this page is any help http://serverfault.com/questions/115774/is-there-a-way-for-administrators-to-disable-users-from-installing-firefox-exten
[16:17] <Ryu945> wyoung: linux is on one hard drive  windows and home directory is on the other.  I have been trying to figure out why in the lastest version of linux i installed, it started freezing, previous version did not do that
[16:17] <TJ-> ThePendulum: I think I'm still somewhat confused when you say 'the problem transfers' can you re-explain that more fully, step-by-step so I've got it clear? maybe pastebin the info to avoid clogging the channel?
[16:18] <wyoung> Ryu945: hmmm, different kernel / drivers?
[16:18] <ThePendulum> TJ-: display A is plugged into socket A, display B is plugged into socket B. Display B goes black, display A is fine. I plug display A with its cable into socket B, and display B with its cable into socket A. Now display A goes black, and display B is fine
[16:19] <ThePendulum> meaning that if there is a physical issue, it'd have to be at the GPU's socket B
[16:20] <ThePendulum> if it was a cable, the issue would stay with the same monitor, since the cables didn't change monitor
[16:20] <tgm4883> ThePendulum: I'm not really following this, but does socket B work if it's the only thing plugged in?
[16:21] <ThePendulum> let me try that
[16:22] <TJ-> ThePendulum: I've just read another owner of that monitor saying "The dual DVI that comes with the screen is useless. "
[16:22] <TJ-> ThePendulum: that user was also having the same issues, and replaced the cable with a displaylink instead
[16:23] <ThePendulum> what did they mean with useless?
[16:23] <TJ-> ThePendulum: and another user says "Anyway, I went with a DP cable and it fixed it for me too"
[16:23] <ThePendulum> tgm4883: nope, then both monitors die
[16:23] <ThePendulum> tgm4883: at least, monitor B gets upgraded to the 1920x1080 mode again and starts complaining about timing
[16:23] <TJ-> ThePendulum: the monitor couldn't show the picture at high resolution with the cable provided with the monitor by Dell
[16:23] <tgm4883> ThePendulum: What about through a reboot? I'm wondering if the BIOS/UEFI boot displays on both
[16:24] <TJ-> ThePendulum: a 3rd user says "...turned out to be a bad DVI cable..."
[16:24] <ThePendulum> tgm4883: huh? yes, it does
[16:24] <TJ-> ThePendulum: what resolution does it display at though?
[16:24] <ThePendulum> both monitors worked and work perfectly in Ubuntu 11.04 - 15.10 and Windows 7 - 10
[16:25] <ThePendulum> and the BIOS
[16:25] <ThePendulum> nothing changes, if I reboot back into 15.10 right now they work without any physical changes
[16:25] <tgm4883> oh is it only an issue with high res?
[16:25] <TJ-> tgm4883: this only affects things when both monitors are asked to do 1920x1080. one at 1280x1024 works
[16:25] <tgm4883> ah
[16:25] <ThePendulum> tgm4883: yeah, 1920x1080 mode makes the monitor complaint about timing
[16:25] <tgm4883> yea BIOS/UEFI is going to be low res
[16:25] <ThePendulum> TJ-: what do you mean?
[16:25] <TJ-> tgm4883: ThePendulum the Xorg.0.log http://paste.ubuntu.com/15983423/
[16:26] <TJ-> ThePendulum: in firmware setup it is unlikely the Setup is running at the highest resolution
[16:26] <ThePendulum> well it usually is
[16:26] <tgm4883> But in 15.10 does it run both at 1920x1080?
[16:26] <ThePendulum> sorry, the firmware setup of what?
[16:26] <ThePendulum> tgm4883: yes
[16:26] <tgm4883> Wait, this is an AMD card?
[16:27] <ThePendulum> yes, hence my suspicion this has everything to do with the driver
[16:27] <ThePendulum> but that doesn't rule out a change in the driver revealed a physical issue
[16:27] <tgm4883> Is there even a prop driver in 16.04 for AMD?
[16:27] <ThePendulum> it's using AMDGPU afaik
[16:28] <lotuspsychje> tgm4883: radeon
[16:28] <lotuspsychje> or amdgpu
[16:28] <TJ-> tgm4883: my other suggestion was a modeline issue in the driver
[16:28] <ThePendulum> TJ-: when requesting a modeline though, shouldn't they be different?
[16:28] <ThePendulum> well actually, I'm not sure if they -should- be
[16:28] <ThePendulum> but since they're both on digital, I doubt it
[16:29] <TJ-> ThePendulum: the info from the EDID is what the GPU should output. It's possible there's a driver bug causing it to deviate when both outputs are at high res
[16:29] <wyoung> nn
[16:29] <TJ-> ThePendulum: each CRTC should have a separate clock for each output, and each should be programmed independently, but its possible some bug is making a mash of that
[16:29] <ThePendulum> hm
[16:30] <tgm4883> lotuspsychje: yea AMDGPU isn't complete yet though
[16:30] <ThePendulum> can I somehow force it to use the radeon driver?
[16:30] <auronandace> isn't radeon the default?
[16:30] <TJ-> ThePendulum: silly question but... have you dropped the res. on the 'good' output to 1280x1024 and then tried setting 1920x1080 on the 'bad' output?
[16:31] <ThePendulum> auronandace: I don't think so? I only see amdgpu mentioned
[16:31] <ThePendulum> TJ-: heh, not yet, 1 sec
[16:31] <tgm4883> auronandace: I think it depends on which card you have and whether it's supported by AMDGPU or not
[16:32] <ThePendulum> TJ-: I tried setting the other one to 1280x1024 but it blacked out, don't want to lock myself out
[16:32] <lotuspsychje> tgm4883: phoronix website and #gamingonlinux are pretty up to date to latest changes
[16:32] <ThePendulum> I'll brb for dinner, thanks a lot so far :)
[16:34] <inblueswithu> After upgrading to ubuntu gnome 16.04 from 15.10  a couple hours back, My system is flikering in the terminal at boot up. Just staying at the terminal with out doing anything or starting GUI or anything!!
[16:34] <inblueswithu> Anyone had same issue
[16:40] <lotuspsychje> inblueswithu: what kind of graphics card?
[16:40] <orion> Hi. Anyone know when AMIs for Xenial will be available?
[16:40] <inblueswithu> lotuspsychje: I dont think I have any graphics card. Its just some onboard graphics
[16:40] <try1604> hi guys!!
[16:40] <lotuspsychje> inblueswithu: can you still enter grub?
[16:40] <try1604> Im having issues with nvidia proprietary driver
[16:41] <try1604> in 16.04
[16:41] <try1604> Ive installed it but now gdm doesnt start
[16:41] <inblueswithu> lotuspsychje: I think so. I'm trying to get to recoverymode
[16:42] <inblueswithu> I tried to select old kernel, but no use.
[16:42] <try1604> any idea about how can I repair that?
[16:43] <guestxxxx> hi! My calendar app doesnt connect to google calendar. do i need to install anything for this to work?
[16:43] <try1604> I couldn't use it even 14.04
[16:44] <inblueswithu> my kernel is 4.4.0-21 generic.. i tried to fall back to 4.2.0-35.
[16:44] <Sebastien> don't downgrade..
[16:44] <Sebastien> lol
[16:44] <Sebastien> you will screw everything up
[16:45] <inblueswithu> Sebastien: I didnt downgrade it. MY bad. I just selected to boot it using that kernel.
[16:45] <Sebastien> oh
[16:45] <try1604> that's my xorg log
[16:45] <try1604> http://pastebin.com/mELeXGyx
[16:45] <inblueswithu> Now, i'm in recovery mode. should i try to use dpkg. to fix brokern packages and stuff?
[16:52] <try1604> anyone has an idea what when I boot with nvidia proprietary driver I get a black screen?
[16:52] <try1604> my monitor is turn off
[16:54] <AEL-H1> What is the difference between disown and disown -h, what does the -h parameter do I can't find it
[16:54] <Wulf> AEL-H1: help disown
[16:55] <SwedeMike> AEL-H1: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/57166/disown-wont-take-h-option
[16:55] <inblueswithu> Sebastien: lotuspsychje : Any ideas for me?
[16:56] <lotuspsychje> inblueswithu: you could test a liveusb of 16.04, see if that works as test
[16:56] <inblueswithu> I tried dpkg in recovery mode also trying to get to low graphics mode from recovery panel. Not helping anytihing
[16:56] <Sebastien> inblueswithu, no sorry :/
[16:56] <Sebastien> i like to keep updated to latest all the time.
[16:56] <inblueswithu> lotuspsychje: Great. I'll try that
[16:56] <inblueswithu> Sebastien: me too. Thanks anyways.
[16:56] <inblueswithu> By the way, is there any way i can get back to my 15.10?
[16:56] <lotuspsychje> inblueswithu: maybe something scrambled during upgrade
[16:57] <Industrial> Hi!
[16:57] <Sebastien> i would look at the drivers
[16:57] <Industrial> I'm trying to get part of my HDD mounted on my SSD ubuntu install
[16:57] <inblueswithu> Ya. I think so too...
[16:57] <Sebastien> like 5 times
[16:57] <Industrial> https://gist.github.com/Industrial/976c625b8d84cf8b2f9570bd65b5006b
[16:57] <lotuspsychje> inblueswithu: you could choose install 16.04 aside 15.10 and save your /home
[16:57] <Industrial> Only, when I go in nautilus to /mnt/linux-data it says I dont have the rights
[16:57] <Industrial> I would like my user to have full rights there
[16:57] <Industrial> How do I do that?
[16:58] <inblueswithu> lotuspsychje: No, I want to get back to the old cofiguration, I have lot of setup like mongo services etc.
[16:58] <inblueswithu> So, its a pain to reconfigure everything
[16:58] <unborn> hi guys, can someone help me with rhythmbox please?
[16:59] <sissylog> wow i had been running xenial since final beta and i used to get abt 23 repos's metadata with apt-get update but since yesterday after release its been down to 4, is this normal?
[16:59] <TJ-> Industrial: use the command-line. "udisksctl mount -b /dev/sdXY" will mount that block device under /media/${USER}/
[17:00] <TJ-> sissylog: yes, the main archive is now frozen. any changes come from xenial-updates or xenial-security
[17:00] <sissylog> TJ-,yeah i only have: Xenial-in-release, updates, security and backports
[17:01] <TJ-> sissylog: from now on its going to be bug-fixes, with the exception of browsers
[17:03] <dax> unborn: Please don't crosspost betwen #debian and #ubuntu. If you're using Ubuntu, ask here only. If you're using Debian, ask there only.
[17:05] <unborn> dax: thank you, you where very helpful.
[17:07] <sigwar> ?
[17:09] <gremlyn> ok, so nothing I am trying is getting mysql-server[-5.7] to install properly on 16.04
[17:11] <dv_> hi
[17:11] <dv_> will there be a minimal image for xenial? the page only lists 15.10 as the latest
[17:12] <birikiuc> hi
[17:12] <birikiuc> /dev/vda1        20G   19G     0 100%
[17:13] <birikiuc> i cant see my 19 gb documents
[17:13] <birikiuc> where all ?
[17:13] <birikiuc> i want remove
[17:15] <EriC^^> birikiuc: what do you mean it's empty?
[17:16] <birikiuc> EriC^^: I can not see 19 gb
[17:16] <birikiuc> where
[17:16] <birikiuc> I want to clear
[17:18] <birikiuc> http://paste.debian.net/440315/
[17:20] <TJ-> birikiuc: "sudo du -d 1 /"
[17:21] <reisio> doody :p
[17:22] <nebula_> I downloaded spideroakone.deb on ubuntu 16.04 but when I click install through Ubuntu Software it says installing on the button for a brief second and then goes back to saying install. Since I am new to ubuntu, I'm confused.
[17:23] <reisio> nebula_: what's it for, free online backup?
[17:23] <nebula_> reisio, its like dropbox but encrypted
[17:24] <reisio> seems it's partly closed source
[17:24] <reisio> dunno why you would trust that bit on faith :p
[17:25] <AEL-H1> Hey guys, I am a little bit confused here -- so I am running a dropbox daemon to sync files to dropbox on my ubuntu server
[17:25] <AEL-H1> I start the process by SSH onto my server, so I put disown -h so that the process continues after I leave SSH
[17:25] <AEL-H1> However, upon exitting SSH, the sync becomes one way (files only sync onto the server, not from server onto the dropbox)
[17:26] <AEL-H1> can anyone explain this?
[17:26] <reisio> doesn't sound like it's a daemon, if you have to do this
[17:26] <AEL-H1> https://www.dropbox.com/en_GB/install?os=lnx
[17:26] <AEL-H1> this is what they tell you to do for headless server
[17:27] <nadermx> Hey all, I'm having a issue with ksoftirqd/0 using 100% cpu
[17:28] <reisio> AEL-H1: either you're running it as a daemon (from a service), and it's less crap; or you aren't, and it's more crap
[17:28] <nadermx> http://askubuntu.com/questions/760360/ksoftirqd-0-using-100-cpu
[17:28] <reisio> AEL-H1: a really cheap way to fake-daemonize awful software is to start it within a 'screen'
[17:28] <into33> I'm having trouble after a 16.04 upgrade.  No GUI starts at all.  I can get to a terminal with ctrl-alt F6, but then what?
[17:28] <AEL-H1> reisio: The software I am using is described here : https://www.dropbox.com/en_GB/install?os=lnx, would you mind taking a quick look?
[17:28] <reisio> I would suggest, as I would to nebula_, to find another, better service
[17:28] <vooze> Hi, I'm trying to sign the code of conduct, but when I type "gpg --list-keys" it does not work. I can see my key in the application "Passwords and keys" and I have decrypted the email from launchpad etc. but it wont work in terminal :/
[17:28] <EriC^^> into33: did you try the guest account? worth a shot
[17:28] <nealshirelaptop> hi, I try to boot off of USB on my laptop and it says "[     0.000000] tsc: Fast TSC calibration failed" and goes to a blank screen. anyone know what's going on?
[17:29] <genii> Hm
[17:29] <into33> Eric: no login screen appears at all
[17:29] <nebula_> reisio, my question wasn't about the service (I appreciate the advice), I was wondering why it won't install? I downloaded google chrome.deb as well (i get it closed source) and it won't install through software center either.
[17:30] <EriC^^> into33: ok, try nomodeset
[17:30] <reisio> nebula_: try with dpkg -i foo.deb from a terminal, you will get useful feedback
[17:30] <EriC^^> into33: are you familiar with using it?
[17:30] <reisio> nebula_: but again, better to just avoid silly software you have to fetch as if you were on Windows
[17:30] <reisio> chromium is within the normal Ubuntu repos
[17:31] <into33> Eric: I tried startx and that "worked" but shall I reboot to see if I get a GUI to log in through?
[17:32] <EriC^^> into33: try to check the lightdm logs or gdm logs etc.
[17:32] <EriC^^> /var/log/lightdm/*
[17:34] <into33> Eric: I'll take a look.  the whole system is moving very slowly
[17:37] <into33> Eric: the logs are not something I can parse usefully
[17:37] <into33> I'll try a logout from the GUI and see where I end up
[17:42] <nealshirelaptop> anyone know what could be causing a tsc failure that doesnt allow me to boot?
[17:42] <magento_rocks1> i have an apache VHOST that works when the right Host header is set.  but when i access the server by IP in a browser, the default Ubutnu page comes up.  is there a way to set up the VHOST to allow access by server IP as well as host name?
[17:42] <AuroraAvenue_> What is the deb line to add to software sources that adds " ppa:ubuntu-sdk-team/ppa " ?
[17:42] <xangua> !addppa | AuroraAvenue_
[17:44] <AuroraAvenue_> xangua , still don't know where the repo is ?
[17:44] <tgm4883> AuroraAvenue_: why are you looking for the deb line when you can just add it with that command
[17:45] <AuroraAvenue_> I cannot do sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-sdk-team/ppa 'cos the installation went funny ontop of Uber student. I tried to install ontop but it didn't fully delete it.
[17:45] <Dantey> is it possible to resume a lost ssh session which was doing do-release-upgrade?
[17:45] <AuroraAvenue_> but it'll work through software sources gui.
[17:45] <Akuli> The 16.04 mini iso doesn't work
[17:45] <reisio> Dantey: not really
[17:46] <reisio> Dantey: if you'd used screen or tmux you could've
[17:46] <Akuli> I get an error with installing linux-generic
[17:46] <reisio> Dantey: theoretically you could use something like reptyr, in the right circumstances, which I doubt this is
[17:46] <reisio> Dantey: I'm sure you can salvage the install/upgrade, however
[17:46] <AuroraAvenue_> So what is the deb line ?
[17:47] <Dantey> reisio when i look with ps i see the updater still running SCREEN -e \0\0 -L -c screenrc -S ubuntu-release-upgrade-screen-window /tmp/ubuntu-release-upgrader-g3uxoxis/xenial
[17:47] <Industrial> I'm trying to get part of my HDD mounted on my SSD ubuntu install
[17:47] <Industrial> https://gist.github.com/Industrial/976c625b8d84cf8b2f9570bd65b5006b
[17:47] <Industrial> Only, when I go in nautilus to /mnt/linux-data it says I dont have the rights
[17:47] <Industrial> I would like my user to have full rights there
[17:47] <Industrial> How do I do that?
[17:48] <AuroraAvenue_> So what is the deb line ?
[17:49] <anticitizen> Industrial, you can right-click in nautilus and select 'open as root'
[17:49] <anticitizen> otherwise you would need to change ownership of the folder to your user i believe, if you don't want to have to do it as root
[17:50] <AuroraAvenue_> Hi there , I'm trying to get an answer to my question.
[17:52] <Dantey> hm i think i got 3 options to finish the upgrade with lost ssh session 1. let it run blindly and hope it finishes 2. kill process and restart do-release-upgrade or 3. reboot the machine and restart the upgrade
[17:52] <anticitizen> AuroraAvenue_: repeat your question
[17:52] <AuroraAvenue_> I cannot do sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-sdk-team/ppa 'cos the installation went funny ontop of Uber student. I tried to install ontop but it didn't fully delete it.
[17:52] <AuroraAvenue_> So what is the deb line ?
[17:52] <anticitizen> what do you mean, what is the deb line?
[17:52] <AuroraAvenue_> for the software sources gui ?
[17:53] <anticitizen> open the ubuntu software center
[17:53] <AuroraAvenue_> yes
[17:53] <anticitizen> it's under that
[17:53] <anticitizen> you can also do it through synaptic package manager
[17:54] <anticitizen> in software center it's just the edit menu, then software sources i believe
[17:54] <Guest26713> Hi there everyboy! I whould like to migrate from Windows 10 to Ubuntu, I'm not new to Linux, I'm familiar with the bash shell but I have some specific questions that I want to ask you.
[17:54] <reisio> Dantey: then you can screen -d -r ubuntu-release-upgrade-screen-window
[17:55] <reisio> Guest26713: okay, but send this message first: /nick dantheman
[17:55] <reisio> dantheman: thanks :)
[17:55] <dantheman> I'm new to IRC, sorry :)
[17:55] <AuroraAvenue_> now my keyboard has gone funny & talking gobbledy-gook . I~'m using a chromebook for IRC.
[17:56] <reisio> not your fault the random guest nick generator is awful
[17:56] <anticitizen> AuroraAvenue_: sounds like you could benefit from a reinstall, if you know your installation went wrong
[17:56] <Dantey> reisio thx a lot that works :)
[17:57] <ole_> the software center hengs on installing google chrome and steam
[17:57] <dantheman> First of all, regarding codecs, Ubuntu has the option to install codecs as oppose to other  distros like Fedora.
[17:57] <Akuli> ole_: How about apt-get?
[17:57] <AuroraAvenue_> ~I need to format the drive - can I do that with 'try before install' ubuntu ?
[17:57] <Akuli> Sure
[17:57] <Akuli> But the installer will do that more easily :)
[17:57] <nealshirelaptop> yeah still giving me the same error on my new laptop. weir
[17:57] <xangua> dantheman: you can install audio and video codecs in any distro
[17:58] <AuroraAvenue_> I tried the installer & it didn't delete the underlying linux distro.
[17:58] <Akuli> By the way, seems like i was able to get the mini.iso working
[17:58] <dantheman> Bu my questios is, are these codecs up-to-date, meaning, do I have only mp3 or.. I don't know ... H.264?
[17:58] <reisio> Dantey: was smart of them to use screen
[17:58] <Akuli> I just needed to do the "advanced" install and choose some other kernel than linux-generic
[17:58] <reisio> dantheman: they're available for any distro, and as up-to-date as you need/would want
[17:58] <AuroraAvenue_> it still has the cd in software sources of UberStudent, ~I mean.
[17:58] <dantheman> So do I get all the "mainstream" codecs?
[17:58] <Dantey> yes it is
[17:58] <reisio> dantheman: mp3 in particular, for example, has not changed in ages
[17:59] <reisio> h.264 is also arguably replaced already :)
[17:59] <ole_> somtimes the gstreamer dont install corect in ubuntu
[17:59] <reisio> dantheman: you can have them, yes
[17:59] <Dantey> next time i will do unattended upgrade when only ssh is possible
[17:59] <reisio> dantheman: some particulars here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats tldr: yes, there is nothing missing from GNU/Linux
[18:00] <gremlyn> if anyone can help: http://askubuntu.com/questions/760724/16-04-upgrade-broke-mysql-server
[18:01] <AuroraAvenue_> I'm undecided as to whether I can properly install ubuntu 16.04 at all.
[18:01] <dantheman> Ok, so I should have all the good stuff.
[18:01] <viju> I want to know if my computer is 64 bit. I am using ubuntu.
[18:02] <dantheman> Regarding, development, and for me this is really sad, even know there is openjdk, why doesn't Oracle provide a .deb package like they do with rpm?
[18:02] <viju>  /proc/cpuinfo tells a lot but don't know where to look for the specific information. I am looking for 64 bit stuff.
[18:02] <Kiwikaki> What CPU do you have?
[18:02] <xangua> dantheman: they bought Sun and changed the license
[18:02] <reisio> dantheman: you can install oracle's jre if you want, but it's unlikely you actually do want
[18:02] <asad_> I'm unable to install vlc on 16.04. Help? http://paste.ubuntu.com/15987593/
[18:02] <dantheman> I know for sure there was one back in 2010 I think.
[18:02] <viju> Kiwikaki, 2328m core i3
[18:02] <reisio> more to the point, oracle bought sun and ceased caring about most of sun's projects, including java
[18:03] <reisio> all the main development is done in the open/icedtea realm
[18:03] <__Nautilus__> viju, python -c "from platform import machine; print(machine())"
[18:03] <SylvieLorxu> Is this channel also for Ubuntu Touch? Because I'm unable to log into Ubuntu One on it, it keeps simply saying "Network error - please retry." but my nework works fine :P
[18:03] <xangua> !touch | SylvieLorxu
[18:03] <SylvieLorxu> Okay, sorry!
[18:04] <viju> __Nautilus__, it says i686
[18:04] <TJ-> there's a way to disable triggering update-grub as kernel/post-inst hook call but I can't remember it - anyone recall what it is?
[18:04] <dantheman> Yeah, I also think Sun did a way better job.... Ok so OpenJDK should do?
[18:04] <Kiwikaki> viju: 64Bit: check! :)
[18:04] <Akuli> Is there any really advanced users around? I want to know if i can install and configure grub manually with apt-get,
[18:05] <reisio> dantheman: yes, very unlikely you will need or even want oracle's
[18:05] <Kiwikaki> viju: http://ark.intel.com/products/70927/Intel-Core-i3-2328M-Processor-3M-Cache-2_20-GHz
[18:05] <reisio> dantheman: but again, you /can get it/ if you truly do need to
[18:05] <dantheman> next, Eclipse, even now in 16.04, there's still eclipse Juno(I think the name was) in the default repos, why?
[18:05] <asad_> Anyone?
[18:05] <reisio> dantheman: the only reason you'd need to is if you wanted to use some /really badly made/ Java™ software
[18:05] <reisio> dantheman: as opposed to?
[18:05] <viju> Kiwikaki, unfortunately back in 2012 I downloaded 32 bit without giving much thought. Right now I am trying to run ubuntu 16.04 64bit on the same OS in virtualbox. It wouldnt let it boot.
[18:05] <dantheman> Eclipse Luna
[18:06] <reisio> dantheman: you got actual versions for those?
[18:06] <reisio> codenames are...
[18:06]  * reisio tries to think of a nice way to say 'stupid'
[18:06] <ranta> Does anybody else get a 'package out of date' message when starting Steam on 16.04?
[18:06] <reisio> not great
[18:06] <reisio> dantheman: juno = 3, luna = 4?
[18:06] <Kiwikaki> viju: But the website says it is 64bit.
[18:06] <dantheman> Sorry, no, you can say that sure, agreed. No but the ideea is that eclipse is really not updated in the repos
[18:06] <dantheman> let me check
[18:07] <reisio> juno is 3.8->4.2, luna is 4.4
[18:07] <skinux> I think I'm gonna go ahead and upgrade using development. Xenial was just released, can't be that buggy.
[18:07] <viju> Alright, Kiwikaki. Now I have to do testing of ubuntu 16.04/64bit before I switch to it completely. How do I do it?
[18:07] <nito_> hola
[18:07] <asad_> why is vlc not getting installed on 16.04?
[18:08] <dantheman> Ok, thanks, so don't you guys find that disturbing?
[18:08] <reisio> dantheman: the explanation for packages lagging that far behind are usually of the sort: it's not a great package, and takes time to make work; or it's merely a very complex package (kinda the same as a not great package); or it's not a great package and there are few devs for it, etc.
[18:08] <reisio> dantheman: nope, why would you want to use eclipse? :)
[18:08] <skinux> Unless someone can tell me how to get latest version of PHP/mod-PHP and Composer installed on Trusty
[18:08] <dantheman> For java development
[18:09] <TJ-> Akuli: short answer: yes
[18:09] <reisio> I'd use Vim :p
[18:09] <reisio> if I used Java™
[18:09] <Akuli> Nice :)
[18:09] <Kiwikaki> viju: virtualbox is the right way. if 16.04 doesnt boot, did you try 15.10 x64 to boot?
[18:09] <reisio> dantheman: anyway, you can always install it manually
[18:09] <TJ-> Akuli: depends on what you want to do with it
[18:09] <Akuli> So, i'm currently installing the kernel. What should i add next?
[18:09] <Akuli> The mini.iso installer failed so i'm doing this myself
[18:09] <nito_> how i can make the upgrade from 14.04 to 16.04 on the terminal
[18:09] <Akuli> with chroot right now
[18:10] <dantheman> reiso: Yes I know, but then I loose the advantages of repos, to keep software updated easy.
[18:10] <TJ-> Akuli: most functionality in the configuration of /boot/grub/grub.cfg is controlled by env-vars set in /etc/default/grub. Those variables are set by shell scripts under /etc/grub.d/ which are called, in order, by update-grub
[18:10] <viju> Seems I am late to the party, dantheman , what are you trying to do? Why can't you just take the one from the eclipse site directly instead of the ubuntu repo?
[18:10] <viju> Kiwikaki, no. I never cared about running ubuntu on an ubuntu system before.
[18:11] <keinelust> bonsoir / hi / hola
[18:11] <Akuli> Let's first see if i can get my kernel there :)
[18:11] <TJ-> Akuli: make sure you've got the chroot mounts correct so if the /boot/ file-system is in a separate partition it is mounted in the chroot (ignore that if /boot/ is in the rootfs)
[18:11] <Akuli> By the way, using sh from the installation iso is a real pain
[18:11] <dantheman> viju: You are right I can do that, but the what is the role of the software center?
[18:11] <Akuli> and yes, /boot is in / partition
[18:11] <TJ-> Akuli: with that, assuming you have network connectivity, then "apt-get install linux-image" to get the kernels
[18:11] <Akuli> umm that one didnt work
[18:11] <dantheman> viju: And repos in general.
[18:11] <danawar> Hi Ubuntu i want to install 16.04 an im currently on 15.10 i am using the software updater and it wont find the next version what can i do!? :(
[18:11] <viju> dantheman, got your point.
[18:12] <Akuli> so i'm trying linux-generic-lts-wily instead, because its the latest one that works
[18:12] <Akuli> if it works, that is...
[18:12] <TJ-> Akuli: does it have network connection?
[18:12] <precise> Hey guys, does ubuntu still have LUKS built in with the new ZFS file system?
[18:12] <Akuli> Yes
[18:12] <Akuli> That's not the problem
[18:12] <reisio> precise: if it doesn't, there will be some other encryption you can use
[18:12] <TJ-> Akuli: so does the install of the kernel image fail at some point?
[18:12] <Akuli> Yes
[18:12] <Kiwikaki> viju: I would say try 15.10. When it boots, it is a problem with 16.04. And if not, its a problem with virtualbox or something other
[18:12] <Akuli> with the same error i just got
[18:12] <asad_> how can I install vlc on 16.04?
[18:13] <reisio> dantheman: you kinda always lose that with java software, it's not a serious world
[18:13] <TJ-> Akuli: what's the error?
[18:13] <reisio> dantheman: also try this: r-e-i-TAB
[18:13] <Akuli> "Processing triggers for libc-bin ..." "Errors were encountered when processing: .../linux-image4.4....deb"
[18:13] <viju> Okay.
[18:13] <dantheman> Ok, next question is compiz, as opposed to Kwin and Mutter, seems kinda old. I'm just cocerned. Do you find it disturbing?
[18:13] <Akuli> im typing it by hand because cant copy-paste
[18:13] <Bashing-om> nito_: IF fully updated, and 3rd party software disabled ; run : 'sudo do-release-upgrade -d ' .
[18:13] <Akuli> so more like a dpkg err
[18:13] <TJ-> Akuli: ahhh, ok
[18:13] <Akuli> or
[18:14] <Kiwikaki> viju: I can not boot in live mode with lubuntu 16.04 f.i.
[18:14] <TJ-> Akuli: you'll have to pay special attention to what dpkg is reporting then
[18:14] <Akuli> libc-bin issue
[18:14] <Akuli> I'm wondering if it's a package i don't have installed... lets see
[18:14] <dantheman> I mean I love compiz, but no one outside of Canonical is contributing anymore, which is sad
[18:15] <viju> Kiwikaki, so one cannot use live mode? Or is it just you and me?
[18:15] <Akuli> Hmm i think this mini.iso is just too messy to do anything with
[18:15] <Akuli> buggy
[18:15] <Kiwikaki> viju: it is just me. its a buggy :)
[18:15] <Kiwikaki> bug*
[18:16] <viju> I see.
[18:18] <mcphail> Hi. I've been upgrading 15.10 -> 16.04 and I have just had the updater crash on me. The window manager has died and the unity side bar has disappeared. All I have is this terminal which has gone fullscreen. I had a dialog about changes to lxc, but the upgrader window crashed when I pressed "OK". Can I prod this in some way to get it working again?
[18:19] <dantheman> mchail: try to purge and the re-install unity
[18:19] <dantheman> apt-get purge unity, I think
[18:19] <whatelse> how do i point my repo /source files to the freshest of things?
[18:21] <skinux> I asked this already, but is Unity API only for game development? I can only find GUI API tutorials for gaming.
[18:21] <mcphail> "ps aux | grep upgrade" gives http://termbin.com/ify1 - which shows the text which was on the dialog
[18:23] <Pici> skinux: Are you perhaps looking at unity3d docs? https://unity.ubuntu.com/getinvolved/development/ has some resources and
[18:24] <Pici> skinux: #ubuntu-unity exists too
[18:25] <nicomachus> I suppose now that 16.04 is released I can ask about this here instead of #+1: Google Chrome throws an error on apt-get update about a weak digest algorithm (SHA1). Is that an error on Google's end (again)? https://paste.ubuntu.com/15988187/
[18:25] <lazanet> Is there any support for AMD Radeon 7470m in 16.04 (and will th ere be any)?
[18:26] <Pici> nicomachus: its a warning and it is on google's end. it doesn't stop you from installing its packages.
[18:27] <nicomachus> It's been there for a couple weeks now. Just curious about it.
[18:27] <ImJune> so unity8 is garbo
[18:27] <ImJune> sorry to say
[18:27] <ImJune> <June today not Risa
[18:28] <ImJune> Risa has my macbook, she installed unity 8 on it and said it wont even load the settings window
[18:28] <xangua> ImJune: unity 8 is not intent for daily use on it's current state
[18:28] <ThePendulum> TJ-: I tried setting my 'working' monitor to 1280x1024 to see if that would allow me to set the other one to 1920x1080, however for this monitor 1280x1080 goes to black
[18:28] <TJ-> ThePendulum: LOL! you should go to bed!
[18:29] <ThePendulum> I'm not 12 m8 :P
[18:29] <ImJune> what major structural changes have been made to 16?
[18:29] <xangua> !xenial | ImJune
[18:29] <TJ-> ThePendulum: they're identical monitors aren't they? --- I'd go to bed... just give up... usually when I return to the problem it solves itself
[18:29] <ThePendulum> TJ-: but yeah, I'll stop bothering you with it, I'll reboot back into 15.10 and suck it unti 16.04.1 and try again
[18:29] <ImJune> anything that might prevent my wifes laptop here from getting xserver errors that cause login loops that no 1 here can help her fix :p
[18:30] <ThePendulum> TJ-: well I was trying this with the 16.04 beta a bit over a week ago too, to no avail,  hoped that the official release would contain a magic fix
[18:30] <ThePendulum> I'll give it some more time
[18:30] <Bashing-om> lazanet: See: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2321234 .
[18:30] <TJ-> ThePendulum: have you checked the dmesg kernel.log to see if the driver is reporting errors when you try to change modes?
[18:30] <lazanet> Is there any support for AMD Radeon 7470m in 16.04 (and will there be any)? As far as I see booting live cd only brings gallium driver (which doesn't work with dual monitor setup), amdgpu seems to support only GCN 1.2 cards and fglrx support is dropped
[18:31] <ThePendulum> TJ-: nope, I just switched and the log last shows my keyboard and mouse being initialized from when I turned the monitors on
[18:31] <ImJune> it's ironic that AMD support always seems to be an issue, and yet nvidia is the one being a ^$^% about giving out source code for drivers
[18:31] <ImJune> pretty sad
[18:31] <ThePendulum> (they're plugged into their USB hubs)
[18:31] <ImJune> luckily none of my important machines are running amd graphics right now.
[18:32] <ThePendulum> my AMD cards worked very nicely since 12.04, up until now :P
[18:32] <ImJune> I haven't run that version in 3 years
[18:32] <ThePendulum> there is no way for me to actually start using gfxlr again until these issues resolve either?
[18:32] <ImJune> I have a couple hd5850 in my closet
[18:32] <ImJune> and an extra gtx560
[18:32] <lazanet> @Bashing-om I'm not using hybrid graphics and my card is one series older than 8xxx
[18:33] <ThePendulum> no issues on 12.04, 14.04 and 15.10
[18:33] <ImJune> I hope they fix up/finish unity8 soon
[18:33] <ImJune> I want something new and fresh
[18:33] <ImJune> unity 7 looks very dated now without tweaking it with something like numix or paper
[18:33] <ImJune> etc
[18:33] <ThePendulum> Yeah, visually 16.04 is a bit lacking, I'm quite satisfied after adding numix and arc theming though
[18:34] <ThePendulum> and actually quite worried about unity 8 just looking like gnome 3 :/
[18:34] <ImJune> arc?
[18:34] <ThePendulum> blacks too dark, lots of gradients and glows, rounded corners
[18:34] <ImJune> gnome 3 looks nice
[18:34] <ThePendulum> ImJune: https://github.com/horst3180/arc-theme
[18:34] <ImJune> you can add paper theme to it
[18:34] <ImJune> very nice
[18:34] <ThePendulum> I combined that with numix icons
[18:34] <lazanet> Also how can I (or how can I) run patched Unity 7 with bottom launcher ono ubuntu 15.10?
[18:34] <ImJune> yeah thats very nice
[18:35] <ThePendulum> yeah I never looked into gnome 3 theming to make it look less web 2.0ish
[18:35] <lazanet> *can I
[18:35] <ImJune> I'm on fedora right now with gnome 3 and paper
[18:35] <ImJune> will install 16/04 later
[18:35] <ImJune> .04
[18:35] <ThePendulum> paper doesn't look half bad
[18:35] <ImJune> I love it
[18:36] <ImJune> its a bit girly
[18:36] <ImJune> but I am an man named Jun
[18:36] <ImJune> so naturally :)
[18:36] <ThePendulum> urf I should reboot into my proper setup, still on the 16.04 live cd, not expecting to fix this display issue anyway
[18:36] <ThePendulum> haha, well it's either pretty or not
[18:36] <ImJune> yeah its pretty man
[18:36] <ImJune> I used to run just lxde
[18:36] <ThePendulum> I enjoy bright pink in some colorschemes, no shame
[18:37] <ImJune> yeah I'm playing for the pink team too
[18:37] <ThePendulum> let me reboot real quick so I don't have to stare at my other monitor running at half its native resolution
[18:38] <ben72> I can't get usb-creator-gtk to work on 12.04 creating a 16.04 bootable usb-stick? I just get "Failed to install the bootloader."
[18:38] <ImJune> ok
[18:39] <ThePendulum> thaaat's better
[18:39] <simon__> Hi, I've got an issue with DisplayPort 1.2 MST & Multiple monitors. Both my monitors are detected as being 2 monitors so 4 monitors overall. How can I get them joined together?
[18:39] <VinnyAtaide> hello I have a problem in my uefi partition, its gone!
[18:40] <ThePendulum> lol, it's no longer there at all?
[18:40] <VinnyAtaide> can I show a screenshot
[18:40] <ThePendulum> feel free
[18:40] <VinnyAtaide> I have it on imgur
[18:41] <ThePendulum> just don't post raw binary data in here like some do
[18:41] <VinnyAtaide> http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FM1hXCeZ.png&h=YAQHRk1V8
[18:41] <VinnyAtaide> ops
[18:41] <VinnyAtaide> http://i.imgur.com/M1hXCeZ.png
[18:41] <ThePendulum> that's one way to link it
[18:42] <VinnyAtaide> look at this error message
[18:42] <ThePendulum> the not in disk order one?
[18:42] <VinnyAtaide> http://i.imgur.com/NURFfQH.jpg
[18:43] <VinnyAtaide> it looks like my windows is hibernating
[18:43] <ThePendulum> you're dual booting with windows, right?
[18:43] <TJ-> VinnyAtaide: you failed to completely shutdown Windows, probably it just did the default hibernate
[18:43] <ThePendulum> yeah, exactly, first thing I'd try is boot into windows and try to shut it down properly
[18:43] <VinnyAtaide> yeah
[18:43] <TJ-> VinnyAtaide: in windows you have to do a comeplete shutdown, 'advanced' I think it is called
[18:43] <ThePendulum> check its power settings making sure it's configured to shut down entirely
[18:43] <VinnyAtaide> I cant-
[18:43] <ThePendulum> well that sucks
[18:43] <VinnyAtaide> run windows its corrupted
[18:44] <ThePendulum> lol, got a little excited with gparted?
[18:44] <TJ-> VinnyAtaide: right now the file-system is unclean because the Windows hibernation image contains data that, upon, resume, will be written to the disk
[18:44] <VinnyAtaide> my uefi doesnt show anything
[18:44] <VinnyAtaide> look
[18:44] <TJ-> VinnyAtaide: therefore the Linux NTFS tools will not touch it
[18:44] <VinnyAtaide> https://scontent.fcpv1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t34.0-12/13084052_10208885396073046_1276055559_n.jpg?oh=0341957e5806f959876b5f5cbdddf57c&oe=571D2834
[18:45] <VinnyAtaide> this is whats happening when I boot using uefi
[18:45] <simon__> VinnyAtaide, Have you disabled legacy boot devices in EFI/BIOS settings?
[18:45] <Mouaad> hello, quick quastion how to upgrade from ubuntu 16.04 beta to final LTS verion ? with |sudo apt-get dist-upgrade| ?
[18:45] <Mouaad> version*
[18:45] <VinnyAtaide> yeah, now I only have linux ubuntu now
[18:45] <anticitizen> Mouaad: 'do-release-upgrade'
[18:45] <anticitizen> is the command
[18:45] <VinnyAtaide> my windows partition doesnt appear
[18:45] <xangua> !final | Mouaad
[18:46] <anticitizen> i'm actually doing it now
[18:46] <ThePendulum> VinnyAtaide: typically grub handles this
[18:46] <VinnyAtaide> so I just run grub repair and its good?
[18:46] <Mouaad> okey thanks !
[18:46] <TJ-> VinnyAtaide: did you install Ubuntu in UEFI mode, or Legacy? That is the UEFI boot menu with no entries, which suggests either a bug in firmware, or Ubuntu not installed in UEFI mode
[18:46] <ThePendulum> well that might work
[18:46] <ThePendulum> but let's take a more careful look
[18:46] <VinnyAtaide> all right
[18:47] <TJ-> VinnyAtaide: is the PC starting in Linux ?
[18:47] <VinnyAtaide> maybe i didnt install in uefi
[18:47] <VinnyAtaide> when I changed to legacy mode it boots
[18:47] <VinnyAtaide> but in UEFI no boot appears
[18:47] <brainwash> !uefi
[18:47] <TJ-> VinnyAtaide: right, so you didn't install in UEFI mode, it's using Legacy BIOS mode
[18:48] <VinnyAtaide> yeah, I installed using the recommended settings
[18:48] <TJ-> VinnyAtaide: it is possible to switch the install mode to UEFI after installation, but it takes some care and special steps
[18:48] <VinnyAtaide> after my system crashed
[18:48] <simon__> VinnyAtaide, Given your disk layout, I don't think you ever had an EFI System Partition
[18:48] <VinnyAtaide> hm
[18:48] <VinnyAtaide> I assumed I have
[18:49] <VinnyAtaide> I'm not sure
[18:49] <ThePendulum> pfleh, any suggested channels to ask about numix?
[18:50] <brainwash> ThePendulum: https://github.com/numixproject
[18:50] <Bashing-om> !alis | ThePendulum
[18:50] <VinnyAtaide> Ive installed this linux after my system got this way
[18:50] <VinnyAtaide> inside an already partitioned ubuntu
[18:51] <pelle_> anyone who had similar problems? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2321334&p=13474471#post13474471
[18:51] <VinnyAtaide> I thought that would kill 2 birds since ive been trying to use the gnome editions
[18:51] <ole_> is it only me that have problem installing apps from internet in the new software senter?
[18:52] <ole_> like google chrome
[18:52] <krl2> hackers lounge representin
[18:52] <Bashing-om> ole_: Google-chrome is proprietary .. will not be in our repo .
[18:53] <VinnyAtaide> so what can I do?
[18:53] <ThePendulum> Bashing-om: thanks
[18:53] <VinnyAtaide> to recover my windows?
[18:53] <Bashing-om> ThePendulum: :)
[18:54] <anticitizen> ole_: you need to go to chrome's website and download the deb installer package. it will automatically add the official google repository to your system
[18:54] <squinty> ole_,  you can use gdebi to install the chrome deb package
[18:54] <anticitizen> so you get updates
[18:55] <ThePendulum> Bashing-om: seems like the French fork of this channel does have -theme channel with 2 users :P, should've paid attention in french class
[18:55] <metaljack34> Hi folks, I have 2 1.92TB SSD and 8 2TB 7.2K RPM SAS. I don't know much about RAID system and new file sytems (ZFS, BTRFS). Can any of you guys guide me for best fit disk partitioning? I want to boot my Ubuntu system over my SSD hard drives. Which RAID option should I use? Thanks
[18:56] <krabador> thenite
[18:56] <VinnyAtaide> Ill run a boot recover and start windows in legacy mode
[18:58] <user> look for raid 10
[18:58] <TJ-> metaljack34: i'd avoid openZFS on Linux on the SSDs for now; it doesn't support discard (TRIM)
[18:58] <Term1nal> So, erm....
[18:58] <Term1nal> Where's the file transfer dialog gone?
[18:58] <metaljack34> TJ-: how about BTRFS?
[18:59] <reisio> Term1nal: "the"?
[18:59] <Term1nal> doing a long transfer, and it shows a little progress bar on the icon of nautilus, but the window that used to pop up and show the file transfer progress bar has gone missing.
[18:59] <Term1nal> (just installed 16.04)
[19:01] <Term1nal> reisio: Found it, right click launcher icon "Show copy dialog"
[19:02] <stratos> After returning from suspend the network manager is still sleeping - no WIFI. Anybody know why?
[19:02] <Slade> hmm. so my do-release-upgrade failed at what appeared to be the last step.. it ran out of disk space on /boot
[19:02] <Slade> any advice on what to do?
[19:02] <reisio> gj
[19:04] <anticitizen> Slade: Clear up some space and try again?
[19:04] <Slade> anticitizen, going to need to make /boot bigger..  is it safe to just run do-release-upgrade again? i mean will it fix everything
[19:04] <danawar> "what appeared to be the last step" (Restarting the computer)
[19:05] <mortn> Slade: otherwise it'll probably tell you to do a apt-get -f install
[19:05] <Slade> hmm. not easy to make /boot bigger
[19:06] <user> your system is maybe encrypted and you have to much old kernels in it
[19:06] <mortn> Slade: can you delete some old kernels?
[19:06] <squinty> Slade: check to see if you have a lot of old kernels in /boot    only need two, current and a backup
[19:06] <mortn> you only need one kernel
[19:06] <Jordan_U> Slade: Why do you have a separate /boot/ partition?
[19:06] <Slade> mortn, only have 2 kernels, the current and the new.  https://gist.github.com/anonymous/cb0289681d7a8f4b44db06bd1db4a4e0
[19:07] <mortn> Slade: in this case i'd remove the oldest kernel
[19:07] <Slade> and hope it boots :P
[19:07] <mortn> usually it complains and reminds you to do a update-grub
[19:07] <whatelse> how can i update losetup (from mount pkg) to a newer version? It is missing '--partscan' and I am unable to mount a loop device created from a .dd
[19:07] <Slade> Jordan_U, hmm. its been like that for years. i'm not sure if it was a dfault of ubuntu or the hosting provider
[19:08] <Jordan_U> whatelse: Just use kpartx instead.
[19:08] <whatelse> Jordan_U: okay, ill look into that. do i remove the loop device and nix using losetup all together?
[19:09] <TJ-> whatelse: no, run kpartx /dev/loopX to detect the partitions and inform the kernel
[19:10] <TJ-> whatelse: or use partprobe
[19:10] <Jordan_U> whatelse: You can either "sudo kpartx -a /path/to/image" or "sudo kpartx -a /dev/loopX", either one will work, the firat will create the loop device for you (then create the partition devices in /dev/mapper/ ).
[19:10] <whatelse> okay, thanks guys. ive been using losetup with --partscan on a local machine for 2 weeks now. get a ubuntu box up in aws and losetup is missing that option so its trippin me up atm
[19:11] <Slade> no good way to move /boot to another partition tho is there?  or make it bigger
[19:11] <reisio> Slade: you can
[19:11] <Slade> all seems to use the rescue cd
[19:12] <Jordan_U> Slade: It's not terribly hard to just stop using your separate /boot/ and instead make it a directory of your root filesystem.
[19:13] <braderhart> pelle_: What graphics card do you have?
[19:13] <Slade> haha. reading some steps  "4.Boot and pray"
[19:13] <guest_> Hi! I just installed Ubuntu 16.04. I can't set my sound card to stereo mode, only to 4, 5.1 or 7.1. The best option is 4.4 but I'm losing rear left and rear right audio channels. My sound card is asus xonar ds 7.1.
[19:14] <Slade> Jordan_U, can i unmount it with the system up?
[19:14] <guest_> I'm using the Sound menu
[19:14] <laro> Is there a way to install 32bit ubuntu to a new system like i7 6700k and z170 chipset? I want to make a LTSP server with LTSP-pnp and I need it to be 32bit. But I don't know how to make 32bit ubuntu work with EFI
[19:14] <braderhart> ThePendulum: Can you send a pastebin of xrandr?
[19:14] <mortn> Slade: mkdir /mnt/root - then mount /dev/sda2 or whatever your root partition is - then copy /boot/ to /mnt/root/boot/
[19:15] <Jordan_U> laro: Why does it need to be 32 bit?
[19:15] <|ZNC|GiantVorap> guest_: Take a look at this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SurroundSound
[19:15] <Slade> mortn, then run grub?
[19:15] <mortn> Slade: yes
[19:15] <mortn> update-grub
[19:15] <Slade> and i can do this with the system up sshd in?
[19:16] <Jordan_U> Slade: Then you'll need to modify your fstab, unmount /boot/ re-run grub-install and run update-grub.
[19:16] <laro> Jordan_U: because I want to make a ltsp-pnp server https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ltsp-pnp
[19:16] <mortn> Slade: Exactly - remember fstab
[19:17] <mortn> but in this scenario it should fall back to the working /boot if you missed anything
[19:18] <laro> I tried partitioning with gparted and making a fat32 partition with boot flag, no luck :(
[19:18] <laro> my motherboard has CSM for legacy boot but I don't know how to install ubuntu 32bit so it can boot
[19:19] <TJ-> Slade: usually it's something like this sequence, to switch to another file-system:  "mkdir /mnt/boot; umount /boot; mount /dev/sdXY /mnt/boot; cp -a /mnt/boot/ /boot/; umount /mnt/boot; sed -i '/ \/boot /d' /etc/fstab; echo "UUID=$(blkid -s UUID -o value /dev/sdXY) /boot $(blkid -s TYPE -o value /dev/sdXY) defaults 0 2" >> /etc/fstab"
[19:19] <Jordan_U> laro: Using a 32 bit kernel on 64 bit UEFI will not allow the kernel to interact with the firmware.
[19:19] <Slade> TJ-, lets hope i dont screw it up :)
[19:19] <TJ-> Slade: make backups, take it slowly :)
[19:19] <chloe> hey, I'm having a resolution problem with ubuntu 16.04, I installed it on an old laptop running vista and from thee usb slot it gave me the resolution of 1048x840 or the likes but then after it installed and I reboot it only gives me 640x480 and no other options..
[19:20] <Slade> TJ-, well problem is its a remote system :)
[19:20] <Akuli> If you can get someone to plug in a usb stick and keep it there during everything it's enough for a backup
[19:20] <TJ-> Slade: the key is to update /etc/fstab - in your case you won't want to add a new line to it for /boot as I showed, you'll just want to delete te existing line for /boot
[19:20] <Akuli> Is boot mounted in fstab too?
[19:20] <Akuli> i guess it is
[19:21] <guest____> Sorry, system crashed. I asked about set sound card to 2 channels only. Sound menu allows only 4.4, 5.1 and 7.1. I was sent to a wiki page with information to configure pulseaudio. I just ran "cat /etc/pulse/daemon.conf" and I see everything commented. Should I uncomment this 2 lines? ; default-sample-channels = 2      and       ; default-channel-map = front-left,front-right
[19:21] <laro> Jordan_U: so not even with csm I can install this 32bit kernel then_
[19:21] <laro> ?
[19:22] <TJ-> Slade: you'll want to "grub-install" and "update-grub" too, because the UUID and location of the GRUB root FS has changed
[19:22] <Jordan_U> laro: With CSM you can, but the boot formware may then decide to disable hardware fearures since it's booting what it thinks is a "legacy" OS.
[19:23] <sjoshi> Hello, Fresh install with Ubuntu 16.04 drops me to intrafms prompt, any help or suggestions?
[19:24] <Akuli> sjoshi: I had trouble with even getting the kernel installed today
[19:24] <Slade> is there a way to test the boot before rebooting?
[19:24] <Akuli> Slade: Not really, but if it doesn't boot you can always come back and fix it with chroot
[19:24] <Slade> Akuli, not remotely
[19:24] <sjoshi> Akuli: any way to fix it?
[19:25] <Akuli> sjoshi: I don't know, TJ- seems like a damn great dude he probably knows
[19:25] <laro> So if I flag the OS partition as boot and restart in legacy mode, it could work_
[19:25] <Jordan_U> laro: So your options appear to be 1: Use a 64 bit kernel with a 32 bit userland. 2: Use a 64 bit Ubuntu with a 32 bit chroot. 3: Use CSM and a 32 bit Ubuntu and 4: Use 32 bit kernel and userland with 64 bit grub to boot it, which will not allow access to runtime UEFI services which may or may not cause problems.
[19:26] <Jordan_U> laro: No. "boot flags" don't magically make something bootable, there needs to actually be a bootloader installed to the drive.
[19:27] <laro> I understand
[19:27] <Slade> ah i cant umount /boot :P
[19:27] <laro> Which option do you recommend_
[19:27] <Slade> target is busy
[19:27] <Akuli> Slade: some terminal cd'd there?
[19:27] <Akuli> thats enough to make it buzy
[19:28] <Akuli> is it busy or buzy? i guess its busy
[19:28] <Slade> i dont think so
[19:28] <laro> I guess the installation put the bootloader in the primary partition, since it skipped the one I created for EFI
[19:28] <Vonologic> Can someone help me install Ubuntu? I'm coming from Linux Mint, I'm attempting to wipe everything and start with a fresh install of Ubuntu so I'm choosing the "Erase disk and install Ubuntu" option, yet even after boot repair I can't boot from anything other than my flash drive. Here's my paste: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15989626/
[19:28] <Akuli> Slade: or maybe your system is booted from it and thats why :D
[19:28] <Slade> Akuli, exactly
[19:29] <Akuli> Vonologic: Which version of ubuntu?
[19:29] <Slade> TJ-, yea, cant umount a booted boot eh
[19:29] <Akuli> Vonologic: Ubuntu is a great choice over mint by the way, because you can install updates with the terminal.
[19:29] <Vonologic> The latest, 16.04 LTS I believe
[19:29] <Akuli> It was released today :D
[19:29] <Akuli> And seems like everyone are having trouble with it :(
[19:30] <Vonologic> Oh, really? I downloaded the file yesterday iirc
[19:30] <Vonologic> I'll find the iso, one sec
[19:30] <Akuli> Could be that my timezone is a bit different
[19:30] <danawar> Akuli: dont say that im 75% thought upgrade
[19:30] <Akuli> danawar: It's an upgrade, you'll be fine :)
[19:30] <Vonologic> Yep, 16.04 confirmed
[19:30] <Akuli> It's the rest of us installing it that are having issues
[19:31] <danawar> Akuli: So far everything has crashed and burned apart from pidgin and the upgrade iteself. :D
[19:31] <Akuli> Vonologic: To be honest I'd start off by reading the release notes, if there's nothing there I'd wait a week or so and see if it's released.
[19:31] <Vonologic> Right now my laptop has no OS :( Do you think I should just try installing a different version if apparently I'm not the only one having issues?
[19:31] <Jordan_U> Vonologic: That's because you have your flash drive as first and only boot entry in the boot order. Other entries, including Ubuntu's, arw there but not in the boot order.
[19:31] <Akuli> i mean, see if its less buggy.
[19:32] <Akuli> Vonologic: Sure, you can install ubuntu 14.04 for temporary use
[19:32] <demetris> ow
[19:32] <demetris> xenial is faaast
[19:32] <Akuli> Vonologic: Do you want a download link? Which desktop environment?
[19:32] <danawar> ohh no its doing the graphics drivers now!!!
[19:32] <Akuli> demetris: 4.x kernel, which i have on my trusty :)
[19:32] <demetris> good job guys
[19:32] <demetris> is not just that
[19:32] <Akuli> I wish it had worked for me too
[19:32] <laro> Jordan_U: thanks for your help. Which option of the 4 you just gave do you recommend?
[19:32] <Vonologic> Actually, I think Jordan_U is right
[19:33] <demetris> Akuli: am using MATE
[19:33] <Akuli> Vonologic: Oh thats all the problem you're laving :D
[19:33] <Akuli> demetris: I'm using it in my 14.04 too :D
[19:33] <Akuli> demetris: fast fast fast.
[19:33] <Akuli> having not laving btw
[19:33] <Slade> you can boot off an ext3 right?
[19:33] <demetris> i was on 14.04.4
[19:34] <Akuli> with 4.2 kernel and mate?
[19:34] <Jordan_U> Vonologic: sudo efibootmgr -o 1,2,0
[19:34] <guest____> Hi. Pavucontrol detects "Analog Stereo Output" mode in my sound card but it doesn't works. It always worked in that mode. Now the minimum channel output is 4.4
[19:34] <Akuli> I have wily's kernel on this 14.04 system
[19:34] <guest____> I just installed 16.04
[19:34] <demetris> Akuli: nope standard kernel
[19:35] <Akuli> that explains some of your slowness.
[19:35] <nedstark> this is the best tool for fixing misconfigured grub installations https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[19:35] <demetris> maybe
[19:35] <Akuli> Because the standard one is a bit old, and the 4.x series is just magically faster :D
[19:35] <demetris> but better go by the book than sorry
[19:35] <Akuli> I think the stock kernel is like 3.16 or something on trusty
[19:35] <Jordan_U> laro: Not knowing about LTSP-pnp myself a chroot seems like the best option.
[19:35] <demetris> 3.19 i recon
[19:35] <laro> Thanks
[19:36] <phablet> what channel would be for ubuntu on tablets / mobile ?
[19:36] <demetris> phubuntu
[19:36] <charlie_sanders> thx!
[19:36] <demetris> am kidding
[19:36] <Vonologic> lmao
[19:36] <Jordan_U> Vonologic: After running that command please pastebin the output of "sudo efibootmgr".
[19:36] <charlie_sanders> well dangit
[19:36] <charlie_sanders> thats such a great  name
[19:36] <demetris> i know i know
[19:37] <demetris> (R)
[19:37] <anticitizen> phubuntu IS a great name for mobile ubuntu... hmm
[19:37] <anticitizen> or maybe mobuntu
[19:37] <demetris> nah
[19:37] <demetris> i win
[19:37] <charlie_sanders> so how would I change my resolution on the aquaruis M10 running ubuntu , anyone ?
[19:38] <bobi> hello, give me a registration code
[19:38] <demetris> sure
[19:38] <demetris> 123456qwerty
[19:38] <Akuli> charlie_sanders: On a computer I'd check if the correct graphics drivers are installed
[19:38] <ratrace> no no no, it's 123qwerty456
[19:38] <Vonologic> Jordan_U where exactly should I be using the terminal
[19:38] <Vonologic> (since I can't boot)
[19:38] <demetris> ratrace: my bad ;)
[19:38] <Term1nal>  the new software center in 16.04 is now allowing me to properly install .deb packages.
[19:39] <demetris> then dont
[19:39] <Akuli> Term1nal: sudo dpkg -i thingy.deb; sudo apt-get -f install
[19:39] <demetris> they know better right?
[19:39] <anticitizen> Term1nal: what's your error
[19:39] <nedstark> gnome software center
[19:39] <Jordan_U> Vonologic: From the LiveCD/USB you ran boot repair from.
[19:39] <Term1nal> anticitizen: not so much an error, as erroneous behavior.
[19:39] <nedstark> i still use synaptic on .deb systems
[19:39] <nedstark> and gdebi
[19:39] <demetris> maybe is in auto protect mode
[19:39] <demetris> for newbies
[19:39] <Term1nal> the little install button turns into a progress bar for a brief moment, then goes back to saying "Install"
[19:40] <Slade> grub-install --root-directory=/boot2 /dev/sda3          /dev/disk/by-uuid/../../sda3 does not have any corresponding BIOS drive.
[19:40] <anticitizen> yeah i always use gdebi, i've never actually used the software center to install deb packages
[19:40] <Term1nal> if one clicks it again, it opens a seemingly invisible window that only shows up on the Unity launcher with a progress bar over the icon.
[19:40] <user5000> can't find gnome scheduled tasks package in 16.04
[19:40] <demetris> you are missing dependancies
[19:40] <Term1nal> This progress bar does not move
[19:40] <anticitizen> hmm
[19:40] <Term1nal> this icon has no options to close anything
[19:40] <Term1nal> and the installation never proceeds
[19:40] <anticitizen> Term1nal: can you alt-tab to the window?
[19:40] <Akuli> Term1nal: Try Term1nal for this
[19:40] <Term1nal> no
[19:41] <bobi> how i can get a registration code for a community linux mint?
[19:41] <Term1nal> Akuli: I am aware of how to install a .deb via terminal
[19:41] <Akuli> bobi: On #linuxmint-help on SpotChat
[19:41] <k1l> bobi: ask the mint channels
[19:41] <k1l> !mint | bobi
[19:41] <Akuli> wow
[19:41] <Term1nal> Akuli: I am reporting this as an issue, as most common users will double click a .deb and expect the software center to work as it used to
[19:41] <Akuli> that was many responses in little time :D
[19:41] <Akuli> Term1nal: Yes, probably a good idea.
[19:42] <Term1nal> anticitizen: the window that shows up as an icon in unity launcher (only, as there is no actual window), persists indefinitely.
[19:42] <braderhart> Term1nal: Please report here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-software/+bug/1573206
[19:42] <sjoshi> Akuli: Following this article as of now: http://askubuntu.com/questions/137655/boot-drops-to-a-initramfs-prompts-busybox
[19:42] <bobi> thnx guys
[19:42] <Akuli> braderhart: well found.
[19:42] <Term1nal> However, the installation infrastructure is not locked (as is typical, if an installation is in progress, one cannot usually start another installation)
[19:42] <sjoshi> And I can see some superblock fixes are happening... lets see how it goes..
[19:42] <Akuli> bobi: Do you want me to help with getting to the spotchat server?
[19:43] <nedstark> type /server irc.spotchat.org
[19:43] <Akuli> right, and then /join #linuxmint-help
[19:43] <Akuli> so not too hard :)
[19:44] <Akuli> bobi: Or click here http://spotchat.org/connect/
[19:44] <anticitizen> bobi: https://community.linuxmint.com/auth/register
[19:44] <anticitizen> i think that's what you want
[19:44] <Akuli> I'll go to mint channels to check if he got there :)
[19:44] <Akuli> hmm so much helping for such a little issue
[19:45] <Vonologic> Jordan_U: pastebin.com/aa02pKH5
[19:45] <user5000> How can I disable mouse acceleration on Ubuntu 16.04 ? it doesn't appears in mouse menu
[19:45] <Slade> ubuntu uses grub2?
[19:45] <Akuli> yes
[19:45] <Akuli> or lilo, if you want to
[19:46] <reisio> Slade: why do you ask
[19:46] <Slade> reisio, cause i'm trying to troubleshoot an error. attempting to move boot from /boot to /boot2
[19:46] <Vonologic> Jordan_U, I'm assuming at least one of those "ubuntu"s are the boot sequence I tried to create after you told me my flash drive was the only thing in the sequence
[19:47] <Slade> i thought this was possible, but maybe not
[19:47] <reisio> Slade: it is
[19:47] <bobi> thanx  guys
[19:47] <Akuli> bobi: You're not joined on the mint channel yet.
[19:47] <Slade> reisio,  i just made a copy of /boot to /boot2 and now i'm doing a   grub-install --recheck --root-directory=/boot2 /dev/sda
[19:48] <Slade> reisio, that gives me an error tho  (/dev/disk/by-uuid/../../sda3 does not have any corresponding BIOS drive.
[19:48] <Slade> )
[19:48] <Akuli> at least not with the same nick
[19:48] <Jordan_U> Slade: No.
[19:48] <reisio> Slade: you switching from mbr to gpt or something?
[19:49] <Slade> no.. i'm just trying to move the partition
[19:49] <reisio> Slade: why's that?
[19:49] <Slade> because its too small to upgrade ubuntu
[19:49] <reisio> ah
[19:50] <reisio> Slade: what I'd probably do is rsync it to the / partition
[19:50] <reisio> Slade: then update /etc/fstab
[19:50] <reisio> Slade: then reconfigure/reinstall grub
[19:50] <Jordan_U> Slade: --root-directory is supposed to point to the root directory, --boot-directory is supposed to point to the boot directroy. More importantly though you should unmount the separate /boot/ and have the new /boot/ be at "/boot/", not /boot2/ .
[19:50] <Slade> Jordan_U, i cant umount /boot i've booted from it
[19:50] <Akuli> Slade: chroot is your friend
[19:51] <Slade> reisio, not familiar with rsync
[19:51] <Jordan_U> Slade: Yes you can. You just need to figure out what process is currently in /boot/.
[19:51] <reisio> Slade: it's just a more reliable way to cp is all
[19:51] <Slade> Jordan_U, not the OS? :P
[19:51] <reisio> Slade: this would probably all be simpler from a live OS
[19:52] <Slade> reisio, i agree, its a hosted machine tho
[19:52] <reisio> ah
[19:52] <reisio> Slade: and not using lvm?
[19:52] <Slade> something else i'm not familiar witih
[19:52] <reisio> what's the output of 'mount'?
[19:53] <iLembus> when can I upgrade from 14.04 to 16.04 ?
[19:53] <iLembus> when it the official release?
[19:53] <deadlock> Anyone have problem to run the live media of 16.04? When I choose test without install, the X server stops and show a lot errors. The computer frozes.
[19:53] <reisio> iLembus: wasn't it already?
[19:53] <Slade> reisio, https://gist.github.com/anonymous/ea1228fac9a16007e49abef097416d32
[19:53] <Jordan_U> Slade: Pastebin the output of "sudo fuser /boot/".
[19:53] <Akuli> oh crap
[19:53] <reisio> deadlock: could be your graphics hardware is a unicorn
[19:53] <ubuntu> ...
[19:53] <Slade> Jordan_U, i figured it out. got it unmounted :)
[19:53] <reisio> Slade: no lvm then
[19:53] <Akuli> So many "... doesn't work ... 16.04 ..." questions today
[19:53] <iLembus> reisio, my updater is set to remind me of every new LTS version
[19:54] <iLembus> reisio, i just ran apt update and apt full-upgrade but nothing shows up
[19:54] <deadlock> reisio, intel and AMD cards
[19:54] <Guest2419> hey guys, have any of you got a bug with the GRUB2 install failure?
[19:55] <reisio> Guest2419: /nick grubguy
[19:55] <reisio> Guest2419: be specific
[19:55] <Slade> this will fix my fstab?  sed -i '/ \/boot /d' /etc/fstab; echo "UUID=$(blkid -s UUID -o value /dev/sdXY) /boot $(blkid -s TYPE -o value /dev/sdXY) defaults 0 2" >> /etc/fstab"
[19:55] <Pici> !ltsupgrade | iLembus
[19:55] <Vonologic> Btw Jordan_U, even if my boot sequence was messed up wouldn't I still be able to boot from the one time menu? I still can't though
[19:55] <reisio> Slade: you only need to update the /boot line
[19:55] <iLembus> ubottu, thanks
[19:55] <davidmichaelkarr> I'm having an odd issue with the Alt key on 15.10 that I'm not seeing on 14.04.  I posted the details at http://askubuntu.com/questions/759263/alt-key-works-on-ubuntu-14-04-vm-ignored-on-15-10-vm .  Note that these are VMs.  I asked about this on the #vbox channel, but they draw a blank.
[19:55] <Guest2419> During installation it will continue to copy files and set up and every time I get to grub it fails to copy and crashes the installer
[19:55] <Slade> reisio, ah. not sure what to :)
[19:55] <iLembus> ubottu, but why is that so?
[19:55] <vooze> Hi, I compiled and installed a patched version of the ubuntu kernel. I build it myself for my laptop, but I wanted to check it on my desktop first. Now that I know it works, how do I remove it? When installing it I made the version number +test so it would not upgrade with apt upgrade. I tried installing sudo apt-get install linux-generic-lts-xenial, but that did not upgrade the kernel. Will be update once 4.4.0-22 is out or should I do something ?
[19:55] <Jordan_U> Slade: No.
[19:56] <Guest2419> During installation it will continue to copy files and set up and every time I get to grub it fails to copy and crashes the installer.
[19:56] <Akuli> ubottu is awesome
[19:56] <Jordan_U> Slade: Open your /etc/fstab in a text editor, find the line relating to /boot/, add a '#' to the beginning of the line to comment it out.
[19:56] <Slade> oh awesome
[19:56] <reisio> Guest2419: can fix that from the live OS ('Try Ubuntu')
[19:56] <Guest2419> im currently in the live OS
[19:57] <Pici> iLembus: because thats the way it has always been. Most production admins would rather wait until the dust has settled after an release than to upgrade on day 1. You can use the -d switch to do-release-upgrade to bypass this, but you are putting yourself at more risk.
[19:57] <Guest2419> i just downloaded to see if any of you guys would know
[19:57] <Guest2419> ok.
[19:57] <Slade> grub-install /dev/sda is still giving me an error
[19:57] <mXr-> how do if "ifdown" a particular interface after switching my config to systemd? :)
[19:57] <reisio> Guest2419: need to see the output of lsblk -f, your /etc/fstab, your /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[19:57] <Jordan_U> Vonologic: Now if you reboot it *should* boot into Ubuntu.
[19:58] <Jordan_U> Slade: Please pastebin the complete output of "sudo grub-install /dev/sda".
[19:58] <Slade> Jordan_U, its litterally just 1 line.. /dev/disk/by-uuid/../../sda3 does not have any corresponding BIOS drive.
[19:59] <Vonologic> Yay, it works, thanks Jordan_U
[19:59] <Slade> Jordan_U, this is with recheck  https://gist.github.com/anonymous/56b131585cd2927213941d0bc25970ba
[20:00] <irinix> Hi guys, does anyone have a workaround for system-config printer locking up on 15.10?
[20:01] <demetris> ok guys i am missing tools and need help
[20:01] <demetris> crc32.c:27:18: fatal error: zlib.h: No such file or directory
[20:01] <demetris> what i need to install?
[20:01] <Slade> Jordan_U, sorry if i'm being dense.. very strange error :/
[20:02] <Vonologic> Can anyone help me figure out why my computer left clicks on right-click-release?
[20:02] <Slade> the /dev/sda3 is ext3 if that matters
[20:02] <Ranger_GUI> Good afternoon, I want to learn the terminal language in detail please. Including the encrypting data
[20:03] <anticitizen> demetris: try this: sudo apt-get install libz-dev
[20:03] <Jordan_U> Slade: ls -l /dev/disk/by-path/
[20:03] <demetris> thanks anticitizen
[20:03] <dchapman> Ranger_GUI: The terminal language? BASH?
[20:04] <Slade> Jordan_U, by-path?  no such file or directory
[20:04] <Slade> Jordan_U, i just have /dev/disk/by-id and by-uuid
[20:04] <Jordan_U> Slade: I think you have a container rather than a VM, in which case you can't upgrade your kernel at all.
[20:04] <Slade> i've been upgrading my kernel for years
[20:05] <Slade> this is probably a decade old ;P
[20:05] <squinty>  /msg ubottu manual
[20:05] <Slade> its a dedicated machine, not a vm
[20:05] <anticitizen> Ranger_GUI: Check this out: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rmtQm0RmXbwYnKdUcQehkWSjdqPK3jK1Qnsflg_lcS4/edit?pref=2&pli=1
[20:05] <anticitizen> that's a good guide/reference for bash/terminal that reddit users put together collaboratively
[20:05] <jesuslovesyouthi> I got a new (cheap) android phone and I'm having trouble transfering files to my computer from it. I don't need mtp or whatever other fancey stuff. I just want the dialog to pup up that asks me what to do - then I can tell it "transfer files" and get this done
[20:05] <estan_> hi folks. i was working on a Dockerfile based on Ubuntu, and noticed that the behavior of $(<some_file) is not the same in Bash as in Dash. anyone know how i can get the behavior of Bash in Dash?
[20:05] <jesuslovesyouthi> ty in advance anyone
[20:06] <Jordan_U> estan_: Why not just use bash?
[20:06] <anticitizen> jesuslovesyouthi: when you connect the android phone, pull down the notification shade, and you should be able to choose the connection method
[20:06] <iggyZiggy> hi, i'm guessing a lot of people asked already? how do i get hardware acceleration on 16.04 with amd?
[20:06] <Akuli> jesuslovesyouthi: The easy way that Just Works is to use google drive or some other service like that
[20:06] <jesuslovesyouthi> ps: I know that usb connection is supported because I've transfered files w/ this phone - computer before. It's just that the dialog does not pop up
[20:07] <akik> jesuslovesyouthi: google got away with the usb storage option in android
[20:07] <estan_> Jordan_U: well i could of course, but i'm curious now if there's something more shell-portable :)
[20:07] <anticitizen> estan_: is it a script you're trying to run?
[20:07] <anticitizen> estan_: confirm that the script has a header that says
[20:07] <anticitizen> #!/bin/bash
[20:07] <squinty> Ranger_GUI, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal#More_Information
[20:07] <akik> jesuslovesyouthi: is it android 5.0? in android 4.4 the option is still there
[20:07] <jesuslovesyouthi> anticitizen: are you talking about the notification screen? It has two (personal) notifications but nothing about any connection
[20:07] <anticitizen> that way the machine knows it's a bash script
[20:07] <demetris> anticitizen: ./autogen.sh: 18: ./autogen.sh: libtoolize: not found
[20:08] <jesuslovesyouthi> akik: I will look
[20:08] <anticitizen> jesuslovesyouthi: hmm, maybe under settings?
[20:08] <Pici> demetris: what are you trying to install?
[20:08] <Slade> Jordan_U, i'll try to do a do-release-upgrade and pray it solves everythign :p
[20:08] <estan_> anticitizen: no, i was trying RUN apt-get install -y $(<requirements-ubuntu.txt) in a Dockerfile based on Ubuntu, so the default shell is Dash.
[20:08] <demetris> compiling my router firmware
[20:08] <Akuli> demetris: install libtoolize with apt-get?
[20:08] <estan_> anticitizen: so i was curious how to get that working under Dash, without having to use Bash.
[20:08] <Jordan_U> estan_: Try asking in #bash , but make sure that you read their channel topic first and also actually explain the difference in behavior you're seeing.
[20:09] <Akuli> or just apt-get build-dep it if possible?
[20:09] <Pici> demetris: make sure you've installed build-essential and libtool
[20:09] <dino82> Is it possible to install java 7 runtime on 16.04
[20:09] <jesuslovesyouthi> anticitizen: I found an article a bit ago but when I looked for the setting they described it is not there on this phone.
[20:09] <akik> jesuslovesyouthi: the option to change the usb connection mode is in settings/storage and then press the menu button
[20:09] <estan_> Jordan_U: hm. is Dash a Bash project ? maybe they'll be offended if i ask Dash questions in there :)
[20:09] <demetris> Pici: Unable to locate package libtoolize
[20:09] <demetris> sorry
[20:09] <jesuslovesyouthi> ANd it's android version 4.4.4 kernel version 3.10.48+
[20:09] <Jordan_U> estan_: Read their channel topic, they specifically mention other shells :)
[20:10] <jesuslovesyouthi> akik: ^
[20:10] <estan_> Jordan_U: oh, nice :)
[20:10] <demetris> Akuli: Unable to locate package libtoolize
[20:10] <Pici> demetris: its libtool, not libtoolize
[20:10] <demetris> ah
[20:10] <demetris> ok
[20:10] <Akuli> demetris: next time use the tab autocomplete and apt-cache search :)
[20:10] <jesuslovesyouthi> Akuli: Oh, yeah. It takes longer and maybe not the most direct route but yeah.   thanks  :)
[20:11] <demetris> i will
[20:11] <anticitizen> jesuslovesyouthi: sorry man, i don't know where it would be. on my phone i connect it, pull down the notification shade, and there's a message that says 'connected as (whatever). press here to change'. then i can choose MTP, etc
[20:11] <wafflejock> Just saw 16.04 is the default on Ubuntu.com, can anyone tell me how long it will take before the software updater will pick up the upgrade?
[20:11] <Slade> reisio, you wouldnt happen to know what this means do you? https://gist.github.com/anonymous/56b131585cd2927213941d0bc25970ba
[20:11] <jesuslovesyouthi> akik: That's it - you just said the same thing the article I found said - but I don't have the menu at settings > storage like they say
[20:11] <jesuslovesyouthi> I'll look again
[20:11] <akik> jesuslovesyouthi: do you have the 3 dots?
[20:11] <iggyZiggy> 16.04 is the worst
[20:12] <iggyZiggy> my eyes burn
[20:12] <Jordan_U> !ltsupgrade | wafflejock
[20:12] <anticitizen> wafflejock: you can run 'do-release-upgrade' from the terminal. i'm doing it right now on my other machine
[20:12] <anticitizen> it's taking quite some time
[20:12] <lmtd> will Lenovo E31-70 13.3" HD run ubuntu 16.04 lts without any hardware/driver issues? - https://www.komplett.no/product/866203/pc-nettbrett/baerbar-pc/ultraportable/lenovo-e31-70-133-hd#
[20:12] <iggyZiggy> how can i downgrade?
[20:12] <akik> jesuslovesyouthi: 3 dots on top of each other, i mean
[20:12] <wafflejock> okay thanks both :) much appreciated, I plan to backup and upgrade soon if possible
[20:12] <xangua> iggyZiggy: backup and reinstall
[20:12] <iggyZiggy> damn
[20:13] <Slade> hmm now do-release-upgrade isnt working
[20:13] <iggyZiggy> is it normal to have software rendering with radeon gfx card?
[20:13] <jesuslovesyouthi> akik: There aren't any 3 dots (and I know exactly what you mean - I know the icon) - not in either uppper corner and nothing I click (I mean nothing) actually does anything
[20:13] <Akuli> oh well so many "16.04 not working" questions
[20:13] <jesuslovesyouthi> not in settings > storage anyway
[20:13] <Slade> or apt-get update
[20:14] <akik> jesuslovesyouthi: sorry can't help you further
[20:14] <WoodyPC> I know yall have answered this before for others, but I can't remember....I downloaded a program using my web browser and now I need to install it. What do I type in terminal to do this?
[20:14] <Jordan_U> Slade: Please pastebin the contents of /proc/self/mountinfo .
[20:14] <jesuslovesyouthi> There is one radio button option to use some something as the default storage and that's the only setting that can be effected on that page. Even it has no other option so it stays on.
[20:14] <reisio> Slade: either it's a non-fatal warning alone, or possibly grub is expecting your system to have a bios boot partition, probably related to having used gpt
[20:14] <nedstark> gdebi will install rpm's smoothly
[20:14] <anticitizen> WoodyPC: is it a deb package, or a .tar.gz?
[20:15] <jesuslovesyouthi> I hear yah. thanks. on to google drive or email attachments i guess.
[20:15] <jesuslovesyouthi> Akuli:
[20:15] <iggyZiggy> i hate this 16.04, what's an alternative to ubuntu?
[20:15] <estan_> Jordan_U: heh. $(cat somefile) *facepalm*. the folks in #bash set me straight. thanks.
[20:15] <Slade> Jordan_U, https://gist.github.com/anonymous/8836fe00b4d8b4a7b7becc7642a17155
[20:15] <Jordan_U> reisio: Slade: That is a fatal warning, and is unrelated to the BIOS Boot Partition.
[20:15] <WoodyPC> anticitizen: .tar.gz
[20:15] <jesuslovesyouthi> Akuli: ^
[20:15] <jesuslovesyouthi> peace
[20:15] <Slade> it sounds fatal to me :p
[20:15] <Kiwikaki> iggyZiggy, linux mint
[20:15] <Akuli> WoodyPC: Is there a .deb available? If not we can compile it anyway
[20:16] <iggyZiggy> i'll check it out, thnx
[20:16] <nedstark> iggyZiggy, http://www.xununtu.org
[20:16] <Akuli> iggyZiggy: 14.04
[20:16] <reisio> nedstark: :)
[20:16] <Akuli> iggyZiggy: runs great :)
[20:16] <iggyZiggy> well it will either be 14.04 or something else, this is terrible
[20:16] <nedstark> http://www.xubuntu.org
[20:16] <Akuli> Always install your system from the ground up with mini.isos if you want to get something that you can decide what its like
[20:16] <reisio> iggyZiggy: what's terrible about it?
[20:16] <WoodyPC> Akuli: there is a deb available.
[20:16] <iggyZiggy> gfx
[20:16] <Kiwikaki> Akuli, how long until support ends for 14.04?
[20:16] <Akuli> WoodyPC: get it
[20:17] <iggyZiggy> software rendering
[20:17] <Akuli> Kiwikaki: Not sure, but a long time
[20:17] <nedstark> when people say they hate a distro, it usually means they hate a desktop environment
[20:17] <anticitizen> WoodyPC: installing from the deb file is much easier, do that if you can
[20:17] <Kiwikaki> Akuli, ok, thanks :)
[20:17] <WoodyPC> Akuli: ok. be done in 5 minutes.
[20:17] <iggyZiggy> my eyes will start to bleed if i don't switch to something else soon
[20:17] <vadi> I'm on 14.04 LTS, and opening the built-in "Browser" gives me a grey and a white box. Is this expected?
[20:17] <Akuli> WoodyPC: When you have it: sudo dpkg -i /some/file.deb && sudo apt-get -f install
[20:17] <reisio> iggyZiggy: what?
[20:17] <anticitizen> iggyZiggy: Just install a different desktop environment if you don't like the default one
[20:18] <Akuli> iggyZiggy: i couldn't stand the normal unity at all on my computers
[20:18] <iggyZiggy> graphics drivers are the problem
[20:18] <Akuli> iggyZiggy: I've never actually installed it, other than in a vm :D
[20:18] <nedstark> if you want a mac look and feel, use gnome, if you want a windows-style task bar, then use xubuntu
[20:18] <iggyZiggy> it's not how it looks
[20:18] <iggyZiggy> it's god damn software rendering
[20:19] <iggyZiggy> no 3d acc
[20:19] <x_g_h> hello guys
[20:19] <anticitizen> iggyZiggy: sounds like you need to take a look at your graphics drivers then
[20:19] <nedstark> iggyZiggy, that could be the compositor, which is part of the desktop environment
[20:19] <iggyZiggy> alll worked great on 15.10
[20:19] <Kiwikaki> iggyZiggy, virtualbox or native install?
[20:19] <x_g_h> ccv /  cvv
[20:19] <iggyZiggy> well yes, and everything i googled is basically "no more amd, buy nvidia, you're fu**ed"
[20:20] <iggyZiggy> native
[20:20] <nedstark> amd fired all their linux kernel devs and nvidia never had any
[20:20] <nedstark> except for embedded stuff
[20:20] <anticitizen> what's your card? i recently switched from a relatively expensive AMD card to a cheap nvidia one because i was fed up
[20:20] <WoodyPC> Akuli: thanks. I am making me an index file on my desktop, so that I don't have to repeat questions on how-to do something.
[20:20] <iggyZiggy> ati mobility radeon hd 5650
[20:21] <Akuli> By the way, you don't need the apt-get -f install part if you already have all dependencies
[20:21] <anticitizen> iggyZiggy: what driver is currently loaded?
[20:21] <deadlock> When I try to experiment the live media without installation, this happens. Anyone knows how solve it? http://imgur.com/BYgw7Ll
[20:21] <Akuli> But often you end up missing something with dpkg -i so the apt-get -f install is handy
[20:21] <iggyZiggy> no idea, how can i check?
[20:21] <anticitizen> use the additional drivers program, iirc
[20:21] <iggyZiggy> tried it, nothing ther
[20:21] <iggyZiggy> there*
[20:22] <WoodyPC> Akuli: but I can use it anyway, just to be sure, right?
[20:22] <Akuli> Yes
[20:22] <WoodyPC> Akuli: cool
[20:22] <Akuli> But you'll notice it if you get some error messages and you actually need it :)
[20:22] <Akuli> But sure, run it every time you want :)
[20:22] <anticitizen> iggyZiggy: you can open the software center and search for radeon and see what's already installed and what's available
[20:22] <iggyZiggy> sec
[20:23] <WoodyPC> Akuli: better to have everything, than be missing something.
[20:23] <iggyZiggy> nothing found
[20:23] <Akuli> anticitizen: sounds so complicated, apt-cache search radeon is much simplier :D
[20:23] <anticitizen> Akuli: true but it doesn't show you what's already installed, while the software center does easily
[20:23] <Akuli> WoodyPC: I think its the other way, because if we're missing something it's usually easy to apt-get install but its much harder to strip down a system bundled with junkware :)
[20:24] <iggyZiggy> fglrx is not available on 16.04
[20:24] <anticitizen> hmm
[20:24] <WoodyPC> Akuli: that's true too
[20:24] <Slade> Jordan_U, i can remount /boot/ (/dev/sda1) if seeing its mountinfo would help
[20:24] <Akuli> anticitizen: That's true, but some | grep stuff and maybe $() and ... and ... :D
[20:24] <iggyZiggy> so i'm stuck with software rendering, everything is blurry
[20:24] <Akuli> and thats it for doing it the easy way.
[20:25] <anticitizen> iggyZiggy: uh oh - http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/03/ubuntu-drops-amd-catalyst-fglrx-driver-16-04
[20:25] <anticitizen> well shit. i had no idea
[20:25] <iggyZiggy> well yeah, so what can i do now?
[20:25] <Akuli> Why not to download the 15.10 version then?
[20:25] <Akuli> ubuntu has all their archives on their website
[20:25] <iggyZiggy> is there an easy way to downgrade?
[20:26] <nedstark> debian has it https://packages.debian.org/sid/fglrx-driver
[20:26] <Apocope> Are there instructions for installing xenial on a ZFS root?
[20:26] <Akuli> iggyZiggy: you already asked that. back up and reinstall.
[20:26] <Akuli> nedstark: I'm currently downloading it with my 14.04
[20:26] <anticitizen> nedstark: check out that article i linked, quote: ' even if you could get them to install, the driver does not support Xorg 1.18¹ that ships in Xenial.'
[20:26] <Akuli> So we don't even need debian for that
[20:27] <Akuli> oh well
[20:27] <Akuli> so he'd need an older xorg too...
[20:27] <mDeeFive> Does Ubuntu support proprietary nvidia drivers with secureboot enabled?
[20:27] <anticitizen> the ubuntu updater should warn users using AMD drivers that they'll be broken if they update. this is ridiculous
[20:27] <nedstark> use wayland, but that will break too
[20:27] <iggyZiggy> well if ubuntu is going in this direction i'll rather switch to something else complety
[20:27] <anticitizen> iggyZiggy: i don't blame you
[20:27] <WoodyPC> anticitizen: I use the Synaptic package Manager to see what is installed on my machine and to do updates/upgrades...
[20:28] <nedstark> wayland is worth a shot if its not working with xorg
[20:28] <anticitizen> lots of laptop users out there with amd who don't have a choice
[20:28] <jetsaredim> anyone else running into gpg errors when attempting to run do-release-upgrade
[20:28] <iggyZiggy> debian is most like ubuntu, right?
[20:28] <nedstark> ubuntu's daddy
[20:28] <anticitizen> ubuntu is built on debian
[20:29] <iggyZiggy> i guess we have a winner
[20:29] <Akuli> You're moving to debian?
[20:29] <Akuli> Nice choice :)
[20:30] <iggyZiggy> looks like i am
[20:30] <Eightynine> When Unity 8 will be default for 16.04?
[20:30] <nedstark> 16.10, maybe
[20:30] <anticitizen> iggyZiggy: you will need to enable the non-free repository in debian in order to get the fglrx driver
[20:30] <TJ-> anticitizen: there's a warning in the Xenial release notes, as lways
[20:30] <anticitizen> just a heads up
[20:31] <TJ-> for anyone having issues with 16.04 and AMD GPU drivers, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes#Graphics_and_Display
[20:31] <kosta> Hi all, new 16.04 install on Thinkpad P50. Everything seemed to be OK until I intsalled `tlp tlp-rdw tp-smapi-dkms acpi-call-dkms` which asked me to disable Secure Boot. Now when I try to login, X immediately quits and throws me back to the login. Any idea?
[20:31] <iggyZiggy> well as long as it works, i'll go trough forums/tutorial hell for it
[20:31] <TJ-> The explanation on tjaalton's blog gives more detail as to the why
[20:32] <Akuli> kosta: Nice hardware choice :)
[20:32] <Akuli> kosta: How about removing all the packages?
[20:32] <TJ-> TLDR: X server 1.18 (in 16.04) isn't supported by the fglrx driver
[20:32] <Akuli> You can log in without the gui world by pressing Ctrl+Alt+F1
[20:32] <squinty> anticitizen,  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes#Boot.2C_installation_and_post-install   -> Graphics and Display
[20:32] <kosta> Akuli: I'd like to remove those packages but don't know how to get back to the Terminal. Ctrl+Alt+F1 isn't doing anything
[20:32] <pelle_> Hi i got 2 monitors connected, they both work. but the main one i cant set desktop wallpaper etc on, in settings editor only the 2nd screen shows up. Same thing if i look in displays.xml why is that? and how do i get my main monitor stored in displays.xml?
[20:33] <Akuli> kosta: Is it not?
[20:33] <Akuli> In that case we need to chroot it.. but i can't believe its not working
[20:33] <iggyZiggy> off i go then, see you from debian :D
[20:33] <kosta> Akuli, I'm at the login screen where I can enter my password or switch to a Guest Session. Ctrl Alt F1 does nothing from there.
[20:33] <Eightynine> How do you think guys what are the best audio and video players for Linux?
[20:33] <k1l> iggyZiggy: amd is not supporting the fglrx anymore. so any new release with the new xorg will not work with fglrx.
[20:33] <kosta> Akuli, ahhh. Nevermind. The F1 key requires Fn
[20:33] <k1l> ....
[20:33] <Akuli> oh crap
[20:33] <kosta> Sorry, coming from a Thinkpad T430 :-)
[20:33] <Akuli> is that what thinkpads have become?
[20:34] <Akuli> i'll never switch my 32-bit r400 to any newer model :D
[20:34] <TJ-> Akuli: needed on many smaller devices with the function keys having dual-functions
[20:34] <Akuli> yes, but on thinkpads too
[20:34] <Akuli> they used to be reliable, traditional, great computers
[20:35] <Akuli> kosta: So, log in, sudo apt-get remove your stuff and sudo reboot.
[20:35] <kosta> Akuli, my issues might also be due to installing the nvidia proprietary drivers... Doesn't seem like the TLP tools would be causing this issue
[20:35] <TJ-> nothing unreliable about having to remember to press the Fn key !
[20:35] <Akuli> oh well
[20:35] <Akuli> then thats why
[20:35] <Akuli> How did you install?
[20:35] <Eightynine> Is Unity 8 takes less RAM than 7?
[20:35] <zykotick9> Akuli: r400 had 32bit versions?  or you have a 32bit OS installed?  my r400 is 64 bit.
[20:35] <mDeeFive> Akuli: As long as they're the only ones having a trackpoint we don't really have many options do we :P
[20:35] <Akuli> TJ-: it tells me more than it tells to you
[20:35] <kosta> Via the Software GUI, forget the name of the app now
[20:35] <Akuli> interesting
[20:35] <fubb1> can anyone help me with crontab.. ive been trying to get it to work for hours :P
[20:36] <jetsaredim> is there some issue with the 16.04 gpg sig?? I cannot get do-release-upgrade to work
[20:36] <TJ-> Akuli: it's no different to adjusting from a 105 keyboard to an 88 on a laptop, and having the numeric keypad on the main keyboard requiring the Fn key, or numlock
[20:36] <Akuli> kosta: you got to the gui world?
[20:36] <kosta> Akuli, no, this was before. Still in the CLI
[20:37] <Akuli> TJ-: thinkpads follow standards, like Ctrl is Ctrl and Fn keys are not Ctrl keys... or not
[20:37] <kosta> Akuli, `sudo apt-get purge nvidia*`?
[20:37] <Slade> alright. i'm trying to fix my move to another boot partition by doing a do-release-upgrade...  afterwards i should be able to do a grub-install /dev/sda  in order to show its going to work correctly. right?
[20:38] <Akuli> kosta: the * might want to get a bit too much but i don't know
[20:38] <Akuli> Someone else may know more about this stuff
[20:40] <Jordan_U> Slade: Odd, /proc/self/mountinfo should really be giving the actual device node, like /dev/sda3, not a symlink from /dev/disk/by-uuid/ .
[20:40] <Slade> Jordan_U, maybe thats why its all confused..
[20:41] <Slade> Jordan_U, like i said. its gone through many many upgrades, so theres lots of cruft left over.. i havent had any issues at all until this upgrade
[20:41] <kosta> Akuli, just came across this http://linuxtips.manki.in/2016/04/ubuntu-on-lenovo-p50-using-nvidia.html
[20:42] <Jordan_U> Slade: "ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid/" and "ls -l /dev/disk/by-id/".
[20:42] <brianx> i'm having a hell of a time finding an app/widget/desktop/tray item for unity that quickly and easily pushes my clipboard to paste.ubuntu.com and puts the link in the clipboard.  i see various command line tools, but no GUI tools for unity.  anyone know how to do this?
[20:42] <Akuli> kosta: What's the output of "dpkg --get-selections | grep nvidia | nc termbin.com 9999" ?
[20:43] <kosta> Akuli, just a moment, rebooting with Discrete Graphics set in the BIOS
[20:43] <Jordan_U> brianx: What would you expect the GUI to consist of?
[20:43] <Slade> Jordan_U, https://gist.github.com/anonymous/35a49856e19cd127e9445ecc1a35fdd6
[20:44] <Slade> huh. i dont even have sda2 mounted
[20:44] <brianx> Jordan_U: a single icon (ideally in the tray by the clock) that you click to paste or rightclick to pop a menu of recent pastes and config options.
[20:44] <Akuli> brianx: writing some pastebin app?
[20:45] <Akuli> I could do the gui for you if you want to
[20:45] <Slade> oh right, thats my swap
[20:45] <brianx> Akuli: i wasn't thinking of writing it, i was looking for an existing widget.
[20:45] <Akuli> brianx: Simple note keeping or pasting online?
[20:46] <brianx> Akuli: pasting online for sharing over irc (or googlechat)
[20:46] <Akuli> I doubt anyone has written something like that yet
[20:46] <Akuli> I could make something to do that though
[20:47] <brianx> Akuli: that would be sweet.  looks like it might be possible to do with pastebinit as the backend.
[20:48] <Akuli> I'd probably just http post to dpaste
[20:48] <Akuli> Which pastebin do you want it to use?
[20:48] <Glamalicious> I need help with a persistent live install of Kubuntu 16.04. I basically want to treat it as a frugal install and I made another user name that I want to use but I cannot stop the live session frm autologging on on start
[20:48] <duckgoose> use ubuntu paste or else
[20:48] <brianx> paste.ubuntu.com is the one i've been using
[20:48] <kosta> Akuli, http://termbin.com/jljt
[20:49] <Akuli> kosta: You can remove those ones and see if it helps
[20:49] <brianx> i kinda like that paste.ubuntu.com isn't search-able.
[20:49] <Akuli> brianx: How about these? http://dpaste.com/ https://ghostbin.com/
[20:49] <Akuli> I've used the first one's api in the past so it'd be easier for me to work with
[20:49] <duckgoose> 500 paste sites and they're all the same
[20:49] <WoodyPC> Hey yall, A friend of mine has this desktop thing. His icons are not on the side, they are on the bottom and when you put your mouse down there it will scroll left or right so you can click what you want to use. What is this and is it safe to use? Ubuntu 14.04 LTS 64 bit.
[20:50] <Glamalicious> Anyone?
[20:50] <brianx> Akuli: https://ghostbin.com/ looks nice.
[20:50] <Akuli> Right
[20:50] <akik> Glamalicious: you can install ubuntu as normal onto your usb stick and use it that way
[20:50] <brianx> i like the "forever" option.
[20:50] <Glamalicious> Woody: Are you talking about a dock?
[20:50] <Akuli> Never tried to use it without a web browser though
[20:51] <WoodyPC> yeah
[20:51] <Jordan_U> Slade: I'm honestly not sure what to do at this point, or why your /proc/self/mountinfo is pointing to a symlink.
[20:51] <anticitizen> WoodyPC: no telling without more info
[20:51] <Glamalicious> Hey Akik. I understand that. But installing Kubuntu full take 6 gigs but doing it this way is less than 2.5
[20:51] <anticitizen> WoodyPC: does he not know?
[20:51] <Glamalicious> Docks are safe. I like Plank
[20:51] <brianx> Akuli: the pastebinit tool seems to have support for a bunch of different services.
[20:51] <Akuli> is ghostbin there?
[20:51] <Akuli> i doubt it is, its a new one
[20:51] <brianx> checking...
[20:51] <Slade> Jordan_U, yea. i'm lost too.. i hope i havent totally destroyed this machines boot given that its hosted.   i'm trying a do-release-upgrade and hoping it fixes it
[20:52] <akik> Glamalicious: what's your usb stick size?
[20:52] <Akuli> not there
[20:52] <Akuli> got the list from pastebinit -l
[20:52] <Glamalicious> a small 16 gig technically irs like 14 something
[20:52] <WoodyPC> Glamalicious: If you don't like it, Can it be un-installed and everything goes back to the way it was?
[20:52] <Slade> Jordan_U, i dont even know how to google the issue correctly (mountinfo symlink in path or something)
[20:52] <kosta> Akuli, purging the nvidia packages and reverting back to nouveau sorted it out
[20:53] <akik> Glamalicious: ok well so it's not actually a size issue then
[20:53] <Jordan_U> Slade: Since you can mount your /boot/ using the normal device (rather than the /dev/disk/by-uuid/ symlink) there should be no problem installing grub to your separate /boot/ partition, but then we're back to the space problem.
[20:53] <Glamalicious> I know people have done smilar with other flavors but not Kubuntu.
[20:54] <deadlock> When I try to experiment the live media without installation, it happens. Anyone knows how solve it? http://imgur.com/BYgw7Ll
[20:54] <l4m8d4> Hello there, today I upgraded an older xubuntu machine from 15.10 to 16.04. It has a quite old "Radeon XPress 1150" integrated praphics unit. On 15.10, I always had to run some xranrdr-command to get the 2 connected monitors working. I have set them to run at startup, so the desktop has a good resolution right after startup. Now on 16.4, this script doesn't work anymore, and Arandr can't set the resolution
[20:54] <l4m8d4> properly either. Using the normal display settings doesn't work. I just can't get the monitors to NOT mirror. Can someone help?
[20:54] <Glamalicious> 3 gigs of saved space on a 14 gig stick is 25% savings. I find that significant enough to see if this is possible
[20:55] <Jordan_U> Slade: As a hail marry, try "sudo mount -o remount /dev/sda3 /"
[20:56] <Jordan_U> l4m8d4: Were you using fglrx in 15.10?
[20:56] <brianx> Akuli: what would you need from me to make this happen?  i'm mostly a C programmer but can do grunt work.
[20:56] <l4m8d4> The problem is that it is totally unusable for me without the dual monitors, so I need to get it to work
[20:56] <Slade> Jordan_U, i'll wait until the upgrade is over. then i'll see next steps
[20:56] <l4m8d4> Jordan_U: I honestly don't know
[20:56] <Akuli> brianx: I was going to do this in Python :D
[20:56] <brianx> Akuli: i'm looking to learn python. :-)
[20:56] <Akuli> hmmh
[20:57] <Akuli> you should know functions and classes before you get started, might be a bit of a pain otherwise
[20:57] <l4m8d4> Jordan_U: But I think I've read something about fglrx not supporting that graphics unit, so it probably was open source drivers (I hope I don't get it totally wrong here)
[20:57] <Akuli> But now i know what we'll do
[20:57] <Akuli> You'll make something that can be used to do the pasting, i'll do the GUI :D
[20:57] <Akuli> But you can write gtk 3 in C just fine
[20:57] <ben_xyzzy> how do I make the system default text size smaller in Xenial? It's a bit of a Fisher-Price OS ATM
[20:58] <brianx> Akuli: cool.  back ends are more my area than front ends.  shall we take this off channel? (pm)
[20:58] <Slade> Jordan_U, huh. i have 1 line in my dmesg that says "nested virtualization enabled" ..
[20:58] <Akuli> Or even my channel if you want
[20:58] <Akuli> alright, let's move to pm's instead
[20:58] <Pici> Akuli, brianx: theres #python too for when you actually have questions about python itself :)
[20:58] <Akuli> umm
[20:59] <Akuli> i know but its not really a good place for just planning a project :)
[20:59] <Pici> Akuli: oh, agreed, just pointing it out just in case
[20:59] <Glamalicious> im willing to dive in and edit configs and stuff. i just need to be pointed in the right direction
[21:00] <l4m8d4> It would be sad if the open source drivers didn't support my graphics unit anymore in 16.04
[21:00] <brainwash> /c/
[21:00] <nedstark> i would start listening to phil collins and lionel richie music now
[21:01] <k1l> l4m8d4: amd stoped making fglrx for the new xorg versions. they now provide the radeon and the new kernel one amd_gpu.
[21:01] <Slade> Jordan_U, ah. its as i thought "Booting paravirtualized kernel on bare hardware"
[21:02] <l4m8d4> k1l: Hm, so you think that maybe the setup installed the wrong driver or something?
[21:02] <k1l> l4m8d4: but that old card was even dropped from fglrx since long time. so that should work woth the radeon driver as before
[21:03] <l4m8d4> k1l: yes, I think that it had the radeon driver before, too. But something must have changed during the upgrade
[21:03] <k1l> what is the exact error? what does not work?
[21:04] <l4m8d4> k1l: It is a little bit hard to explain. If I use the display settings from xfce to try and set the monitors to NOT mirror, for example, and hit apply, It just does nothing, and ticks the "mirror" automatically again
[21:05] <Cedara> k1l : I read that the fglrx was dropped in 16.04
[21:05] <k1l> Cedara: yes. but not because ubuntu doesnt like fglrx, but because amd stoppped making fglrx from now on so for the new xorg version ubuntu 16.04 uses there will be no fglrx from amd.
[21:06] <Cedara> Ok
[21:06] <k1l> Cedara: same goes for other linux distributions that will be released this year with the new xorg verison.
[21:06] <Cedara> ok
[21:06] <l4m8d4> k1l: So the system detects the monitors correctly, and it also detects their respective native resolutions correctly even
[21:06] <k1l> l4m8d4: you could try randr  from terminal and see if there is an error
[21:09] <l4m8d4> k1l: So I tried xrandr from the terminal. The screens went black for a second, the picture came back as it was before, it doesn't seem anything has changed, and there was no error message from xrandr
[21:10] <l4m8d4> What's also interesting is that running the command once more after that, the same happens, except that the screen doesn't go black anymore. So it seems it "changes" even less than before now. Which seems to indicate it "thinks" it has already set the right settings
[21:11] <l4m8d4> also, running "echo $?" after the command results in a 0, indicating there were no errors
[21:11] <l4m8d4> also, journalctl doesn't seem to show me any errors either
[21:12] <l4m8d4> Any ideas how to continue on this?
[21:13] <k1l> l4m8d4: the versions of xrandr might have changed. look if that settings are still supported
[21:13] <k1l> l4m8d4: and look into the Xorg.0.log in /var/log/ for errors
[21:14] <l4m8d4> k1l: Ok, I'm going to do that. But strange if it threw no error in that case
[21:14] <jean__> bonsoir
[21:16] <jose__> cmd
[21:16] <jose__> 192.168.1.100
[21:16] <jean__> je cherche de l'aide
[21:16] <jose__> en
[21:16] <jose__> config ter
[21:16] <jose__> ssh
[21:17] <k1l> jose__: this is irc. we dont run your terminal commands
[21:17] <peter> hello
[21:18] <l4m8d4> k1l: okay, so Xorg.0.log doesn't indicate any errors as far as I can see. That is, no new messages are being added upon running the command
[21:18] <anticitizen> sigh. i started the 16.04 upgrade over two hours ago. still chugging along, and it's past 5:00 and i want to go home...
[21:18] <jean__> ubuntu est il bien securise pour voir son courrier ou faire sa declaration en lign e
[21:18] <lmtd> will Lenovo E31-70 13.3" HD run ubuntu 16.04 lts without any hardware/driver issues? - https://www.komplett.no/product/866203/pc-nettbrett/baerbar-pc/ultraportable/lenovo-e31-70-133-hd#
[21:18] <deadlock> When I try to experiment the live media without installation, it happens. http://imgur.com/BYgw7Ll Anyone knows how to solve it?
[21:19] <k1l> jean__: you might want to try #ubuntu-fr
[21:19] <k1l> l4m8d4: i am not an xorg expert. maybe someone other knows about that
[21:22] <l4m8d4> k1l: Okay. Well, thanks so far then.
[21:22] <l4m8d4> I also found out that xrandr still supports all the parameters I am using, and that they still should mean the same
[21:23] <Slade> Jordan_U, well it upgraded successfully, grub-install /dev/sda doesnt work correctly tho still
[21:23] <Jordan_U> Slade: If you reboot now then it will likely boot with an old kernel, which might fail.
[21:24] <Slade> Jordan_U, you think it'd even boot to an old kernel? hmm yea i said no reboot either way..
[21:24] <Jordan_U> Slade: Have you tried "sudo mount -o remount /dev/sda3 /" ?
[21:24] <Slade> update-grub works
[21:24] <Slade> let me try that
[21:25] <Slade> done
[21:25] <igoryonya> hello, I have Ubuntu 15.10. Nvidia GeForce 9800 GT. I've screwed up the driver with the one, that was downloaded from the nvidia site. Now, I get the graphical login screen, but It doesn't load the desktop, after I enter the password. Just returns me to the login screen.
[21:25] <igoryonya> I've figured that 3d version of driver is not loading somehow, since it works, when I try to load openbox session, instead of Unity.
[21:25] <Slade> Jordan_U, grub-install still doesnt work after that
[21:26] <anticitizen> igoryonya: since you can log into openbox, you should be able to change drivers from there
[21:26] <igoryonya> How can I return to the nvidia drivers by using the command line, because, from synaptic's drivers options, it just hangs and doesn't install anything.
[21:26] <Slade> no changes to mountinfo either
[21:26] <l4m8d4> Now I found out that on my system, "xserver-xorg-video-ati", "xserver-xorg-video-radeon" and "xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu" are all installed. Is that ok? Don't they interfere with each other?
[21:27] <Jordan_U> Slade: Please pastebin the output of "sudo grub-install --debug /dev/sda".
[21:28] <igoryonya> anticitizen: It says, applying, but doesn't do anything. I even tried it leaving for the whole night, it didn't move a bit.
[21:28] <Jordan_U> Slade: sudo grub-install --debug /dev/sda 2>&1 | pastebinit
[21:28] <igoryonya> anticitizen: what packages do I need to remove/install, in order to get everything back.
[21:28] <Slade> Jordan_U, https://gist.github.com/anonymous/7f8109aff9d78e3cb963fcc43b23ab76
[21:29] <humb3rtoluna> Hi someboy help me with skype for bussisness
[21:29] <humb3rtoluna> ?
[21:29] <humb3rtoluna> on linux
[21:29] <anticitizen> igoryonya: http://www.binarytides.com/install-nvidia-drivers-ubuntu-14-04/
[21:29] <mXr-> trying again in the hope that ustz people might be around now and able to help :) im struggling with systemd on 16.04. i need to configure openvpn to start after ALL networking is initialized, and it seems impossible to pull it off, because network-online.target doesnt do its thing
[21:29] <Slade> Jordan_U, didnt know about pastebinit. kinda cool
[21:29] <mXr-> anyone fluid with systemd? :)
[21:30] <humb3rtoluna> I try with pidgin but now does not working and and try with sky but i have problems with the interface
[21:30] <humb3rtoluna> somebody helpme with another software or other options
[21:30] <humb3rtoluna> ??
[21:30] <zykotick9> igoryonya: something to think about for next time, #debian's "why nvidia installer sucks" factoid pasted to http://paste.ubuntu.com/15992126/
[21:32] <kotoReZ> I just bought a new hard drive. Is it worth installing 16.04 or should I stick to 14.04 atm?
[21:33] <Jordan_U> kotoReZ: Depends on your needs, but without knowing anything else I'd say go with 16.04.
[21:33] <adrian_1908> kotoReZ: depends on your use case, doesn't it? If you want the latest and greatest, might as well keep up with releases.
[21:33] <kotoReZ> well my case is stability/reliability
[21:34] <soup4you2> if not install 14.04, and when the urge raises, pray and try a do-release-upgrade
[21:34] <nedstark> i'd stick with 14.04 at least until 16.04.1, or maybe longer
[21:34] <soup4you2> but 16.04 has so been pretty stable for myself
[21:34] <Jordan_U> kotoReZ: For newer hardware 16.04 may be more stable than 14.04 (or may not).
[21:34] <kotoReZ> Ok. I will try 16.04
[21:35] <Term1nal> as long as you don't want to install .deb packages via clicking them
[21:35] <Term1nal> :P
[21:35] <alu> hey
[21:35] <l4m8d4> kotoReZ: If your case is stability, do a backup or snapshot of some sort before upgrading, so in case something important breaks you can easily roll back without having to reinstall everything
[21:35] <alu> I'm trying to update from 15.10 to 16.04
[21:35] <alu> i did sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[21:35] <alu> it didnt work
[21:35] <k1l> alu: that doesnt work that way
[21:36] <kotoReZ> Term1nal: whats wrong with doubleclicking .deb?
[21:36] <k1l> alu: use "update-manager" for GUI or "sudo do-release-upgrade" for cli
[21:36] <zykotick9> dist-upgrade <- the most misunderstood apt-based command...
[21:36] <Term1nal> kotoReZ: currently bugged.
[21:36] <l4m8d4> alu: apt-get dist-upgrade will just update you to the latest 15.10 state, not 26,04
[21:36] <k1l> zykotick9: way back then, that was really the idea behind that naming
[21:36] <l4m8d4> *16.04
[21:36] <alu> okay thanks
[21:36] <alu> i did do-release-upgrade
[21:37] <zykotick9> k1l: i'd believe that.
[21:37] <soup4you2> i did do-release-upgrade and no issues
[21:37] <kotoReZ> btw do you guys like new software store?
[21:37] <Jordan_U> mXr-: Have you read https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/NetworkTarget/ ?
[21:37] <l4m8d4> btw, go with 'apt full-upgrade'  instead of 'apt-get dist-upgrade' in the future. It is more modern, has a progress bar for example
[21:38] <soup4you2> havent looked at the new store..  always just tend to apt-get install
[21:38] <k1l> kotoReZ: i only use apt on terminal. and most times in here its better to use apt for easier support.
[21:38] <l4m8d4> also 'apt update' and 'apt autoremove'
[21:38] <mXr-> Jordan_U: partially, yes. the problem is that systemd-networkd-wait-online.service seems to come up immediately for me
[21:38] <l4m8d4> soup4you2: also 'apt install' :D saves you some typing and gets you a nifty progress bar
[21:39] <mXr-> and the workarounds i can find on the interwebs are making me want to kill myself
[21:39] <mXr-> like this one http://v-optimal.nl/index.php/2016/02/23/systemd-the-network-online-target-is-reached-too-early/
[21:39] <zykotick9> l4m8d4: note "apt upgrade" is much like dist-upgrade for apt-get currently... it'll actually update everything (but won't remove/break anything)...
[21:39] <hep7> hello
[21:39] <hep7> a question
[21:39] <ivo_> hey guys .... any ideas on why zfs is not available in the installer?
[21:40] <Jordan_U> mXr-: So what is your definition of "online"?
[21:40] <hep7> hidden files won't stop showing
[21:40] <Jordan_U> mXr-: And I hope you didn't mean that you only "partially" read that page.
[21:40] <wolfpi> Ctrl + H ?
[21:40] <adrian_1908> tried CTRL-H?
[21:40] <l4m8d4> zykotick9: as far as I know, 'apt upgrade' will do the same as 'apt-get upgrade'. Correct me if I'm wrong
[21:40] <k1l> ivo_: the intsaller cant handle that. but it should work if you make that partitions before running the installer, i heard
[21:40] <mXr-> Jordan_U: well. my openvpn instances are dying because they cannot bind to specific ip addresses, because those interfaces are not up yet
[21:40] <hep7> yes
[21:40] <zykotick9> l4m8d4: you're wrong ;)
[21:40] <deadlock> AMD graphic cards will not supported on 16.04?
[21:41] <nicomachus> deadlock: the OSS radeon driver works.
[21:41] <soup4you2> l4m8d4: you can also enable the progress bar in apt.conf.d/  :)  Dpkg::Progress-Fancy "1";
[21:41] <k1l> deadlock: wrong
[21:41] <hep7> vulkan is available?
[21:41] <mXr-> Jordan_U: meaning, "up" would be that the interface has an address configured and link state up i guess. which is exactly what the "systemd-networkd-wait-online.service" is supposed to provide
[21:41] <l4m8d4> zykotick9: ok then. I only use full-upgrade anyway, so
[21:41] <k1l> deadlock: amd stopped making the fglrx. but they make the kernel driver amd_gpu now. and there is the radeon still
[21:41] <mXr-> which is actually calling ExecStart=/lib/systemd/systemd-networkd-wait-online
[21:42] <l4m8d4> soup4you2: Yeah, but why use deprecated notation if you can just use the new one
[21:42] <zykotick9> l4m8d4: that's fine, for you.  but i'd suggest not recommending it to others - it _could_ break there/your systems.
[21:42] <k1l> hep7: press "ctrl+h" to make them not show again in filebrowser
[21:42] <robertbellarmine> what is the command line argument to unpackage a .deb file
[21:42] <soup4you2> l4m8d4: force of habbit :)  hard to train and old dog new tricks
[21:42] <k1l> robertbellarmine: unpack? or install?
[21:42] <hep7> k1l you already said that
[21:43] <deadlock> nicomachus, k1l this happens when I try to experiment OS with the live media: http://imgur.com/BYgw7Ll
[21:43] <l4m8d4> zykotick9: Yep. It can potentially break your system, but only if you don't pay attention. One should always pay attention while upgrading
[21:43] <nicomachus> robertbellarmine: to install: sudo dpkg -i <package>
[21:43] <robertbellarmine> nicomachus, thanks!
[21:43] <hep7> k1l something wrong ib setting?
[21:43] <zykotick9> l4m8d4: true.  but "apt upgrade" doesn't require close inspection... thus my suggestion ;)
[21:43] <Jordan_U> mXr-: Are you using systemd-networkd to manage those interfaces?
[21:43] <mXr-> Jordan_U: yes
[21:43] <ivo_> hey guys .... any ideas on why zfs is not available in the installer?
[21:43] <mXr-> except for lo, im not sure if that matters
[21:43] <k1l> deadlock: try "nomodeset" maybe?
[21:44] <hep7> ivo_ no idea
[21:44] <nicomachus> deadlock: almost looks like a kernel panic. Old hardware?
[21:44] <k1l> ivo_: <k1l> ivo_: the intsaller cant handle that. but it should work if you make that partitions before running the installer, i heard
[21:44] <l4m8d4> zykotick9: Doesn't require close inspection? I wouldn't say that. Always pay attention to changes and changelogs, or you could be bitten by it, also with 'apt upgrade'
[21:44] <deadlock> k1l, how can I do it?
[21:44] <k1l> ivo_: please read the answers if you ask
[21:44] <Slade> Jordan_U, bunch of stuff in that script i dont understand. especially the mdadm thing at the end
[21:44] <k1l> !nomodeset | deadlock
[21:44] <deadlock> nicomachus, no. 1 and half year
[21:44] <nicomachus> deadlock: then try nomodeset like k1l suggests.
[21:44] <Jordan_U> mXr-: Did you run "systemctl enable systemd-networkd-wait-online.service" as that page said is required?
[21:44] <ivo_> k1l, sorry I've nissed it :)
[21:44] <ivo_> 10x
[21:45] <nicomachus> deadlock: or does that happen before GRUB?
[21:45] <ivo_> *missed
[21:45] <mXr-> Jordan_U: yes. and a "status" shows that it actually started fine
[21:45] <mXr-> Jordan_U: it took appearently 3 seconds to "start" it, which sounds reasonable
[21:45] <deadlock> nicomachus, this happen after click to experiment system. With the X working
[21:46] <mXr-> Jordan_U: i copied openvpn@.service over into /etc and modified it, added those After= and Wants= statements for network-online.target as the page says, too
[21:47] <hep7> no one?
[21:48] <l4m8d4> So, nobody have a clue about my problems with my old graphics unit? Problem is, I might have t
[21:48] <l4m8d4> *to go back to 15.10 if I can't resolve it
[21:49] <deadlock> nicomachus, k1l, thank you, guys. I will to try it
[21:49] <grey> What's the recommended way to create a bootable usb key for 16.04 from windows? I usually use linux live usb creator, but it didn't work when I tried it a moment ago
[21:49] <Jordan_U> grey: In what way did it "not work"?
[21:49] <nicomachus> hep7: in your file manager (assuming nautilus), go to Edit -> Preferences and select the Views tab.
[21:50] <nicomachus> hep7: then unselect "show hidden and backup files"
[21:50] <adrian_1908> l4m8d4: Maybe 16.04 is getting too new? I think Ubuntu isn't aiming at endless backwards-compatibility, they want to be fairly modern.
[21:50] <grey> Jordan_U: I got a "Failed to load Idlinux.c32" error
[21:50] <l4m8d4> I just noticed that my monitors just turn off enitrely if I set them to native resolution
[21:50] <hep7> nicomachus yes I am aware of that
[21:50] <grey> I'm doing a full format of the drive and I'll try it again, maybe the quickformat lili did wasn't enough
[21:50] <nicomachus> hep7: ok, so what else do you want?
[21:51] <Jordan_U> grey: Were you using the latest version of LiLi?
[21:51] <grey> Jordan_U: that's a good question, I haven't updated it in forever, didn't realize it was still even being updated tbh
[21:51] <Jordan_U> grey: Quick format vs full format shouldn't matter unless the drive is going bad, in which case you just should trash it.
[21:52] <grey> 2.9.4
[21:52] <grey> which looks like the latest
[21:52] <l4m8d4> adrian_1908: Well, could be, but it would be sad because linux was always known for good backwards-compatibility hardware-wise. Also, I don't see why ubuntu 15.10 would support my graphics unit more than 16.04. I don't want to resort to outdated software just because of an outdated computer ;)
[21:52] <hep7> nicomachus they keep showing
[21:52] <nicomachus> hep7: even after unchecking that box?
[21:52] <hep7> nicomachus yes
[21:53] <nicomachus> then I'd suggest submitting a bug report.
[21:53] <l4m8d4> adrian_1908: For example, I still have a computer in active use from 1996, and it just works fine with kernel 4.5
[21:53] <nicomachus> hep7: or you can try doing it with dconf editor.
[21:53] <Slade> Jordan_U, ok. So I mounted sda1  deleted everything on it.  copied /boot to sda1 renamed /boot to /boot.new  added sda1 back into /etc/fstab  did mkdir /boot did a mount -a.. then grub-install /dev/sda now works
[21:54] <nicomachus> hep7: 'apt-get install dconf-tools', then 'dconf-editor', then browse to org > gtk > settings > file-chooser and uncheck the "hidden file" option.
[21:54] <hep7> nicomachus I don't want to install it
[21:54] <Slade> Jordan_U,  then followed it up with an update-grub   .. did i miss anything?
[21:55] <hep7> nicomachus I want to what is the problem
[21:55] <Jordan_U> Slade: Does /boot/ now contain Ubuntu 16.04's kernel?
[21:55] <nicomachus> hep7: then we can't help you anymore. You've been provided with solutions, which I found in 10 secs of googling.
[21:55] <Slade> Jordan_U, vmlinuz-4.4.0-21-generic
[21:55] <adrian_1908> l4m8d4: yeah, I can understand that, though maybe there are better distributions for that. Ubuntu seems pretty modern too me, and I reckon things like Mir might only work with drivers which themselves aren't very backward compatible. You could over course just pick a lighter Ubuntu derivative and see how that works out.
[21:56] <hep7> nicomachus are you serious?  I have been using Ubuntu to hide/unhide hidden files
[21:56] <hep7> long enough
[21:56] <Slade> Jordan_U, it looks like there is plenty of space for the kernel. there wasnt enough space for it during the install procedure..  going to need to fix this eventually, but i've got no clue what to do about it hating on sda3
[21:57] <nicomachus> maybe you can sit them down for a nice candlelit dinner and let them get to know each other.
[21:57] <adrian_1908> hep7: can you provide a screenshot? Maybe some misunderstanding?
[21:57] <hep7> nicomachus if you don't know the answer probably you should just let answer people who know
[21:57] <Jordan_U> Slade: Just to confirm, please pastebin your /proc/self/mountinfo where I expect you'll see "/dev/sda3" rather than "/dev/disk/by-uuid/..." for /boot/.
[21:57] <l4m8d4> adrian_1908: I am already running xubuntu on that machine. That's about the lightest an ubuntu can get
[21:57] <l4m8d4> It runs very fast too, only the graphics driver is a problem
[21:57] <adrian_1908> l4m8d4: yeah me too, my favorite distro.
[21:57] <nicomachus> hep7: sorry for trying to help you when no one else was answering. Have a good weekend, now.
[21:57] <Jordan_U> Slade: Hopefully with 16.04 the odd mountinfo problem will be gone and we can just fix it like we planned before.
[21:58] <adrian_1908> l4m8d4: I know too little about these things, wish I could help you.
[21:58] <terratoma> can you all quit downloading ubuntu for a few minute?  i need to grab kernel-package
[21:58] <n1md4> anyone using mir + unity8?
[21:58] <hep7> adrian_1908 it's simple it doesn't remember the setting
[21:58] <Jordan_U> terratoma: Have patience or try a different mirror.
[21:58] <nicomachus> terratoma: or use the torrent. and seed!
[21:59] <adrian_1908> hep7: but you never get into a hidden state, or it shows the files again next time you launch?
[21:59] <Jordan_U> nicomachus: Hard (though actually possible) to use bittorrent for apt :)
[21:59] <k1l> n1md4: the guys in #ubuntu-mir are :)
[21:59] <magento_rocks1> why does this happen?  do-release-upgrade  ... No new release found
[21:59] <magento_rocks1> trying to upgrade from 14.04 to 16.04
[21:59] <l4m8d4> adrian_1908: Thanks. Maybe someone can help me in the forums. I guess I should go there and explain the problem more thorougly
[21:59] <nicomachus> Jordan_U: ha, whoops. Thought he was downloading the .iso packages. :)
[21:59] <Jordan_U> !ltsupgrade | magento_rocks1
[22:00] <hep7> adrian_1908 yes just screen refresh is enough I think
[22:00] <magento_rocks1> any way to manually upgrade now?
[22:00] <Jordan_U> magento_rocks1: I would strongly recommend just waiting.
[22:00] <zykotick9> magento_rocks1: while i agree with Jordan_U above, yes it is possible.
[22:01] <magento_rocks1> ok.  i wanted to upgrade because the version of apache installed on ubuntu 14.04 is insecure, and it's the latest version available.
[22:01] <Jordan_U> magento_rocks1: What is insecure about it?
[22:01] <zykotick9> magento_rocks1: are you sure?  security updates get backported!
[22:02] <magento_rocks1> CVE-2015-3185
[22:02] <magento_rocks1> This vulnerability has been fixed in Apache HTTP Server version 2.4.14
[22:03] <magento_rocks1> on my up-to-date ubuntu 14.04 server: Apache/2.4.7 (Ubuntu)
[22:03] <zykotick9> magento_rocks1: just because Apache says it's fixed in Version X, doesn't mean that fix wasn't backported to ubuntu's verions!
[22:03] <Jordan_U> magento_rocks1: Fixed in 2.4.7-1ubuntu4.5 http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/USN-2686-1/
[22:03] <TJ-> magento_rocks1: nope, it's been fixed. See the apache2 changelog /usr/share/doc/apaches/changelog
[22:04] <magento_rocks1> ohh gotcha.  ok thanks
[22:04] <magento_rocks1> it came up in an automated scan
[22:04] <magento_rocks1> it thought it was vulnerable
[22:04] <Slade> Jordan_U, https://gist.github.com/anonymous/e3a592697e8a9a03d50856542d8dff9c
[22:04] <TJ-> magento_rocks1: "debian/patches/CVE-2015-3185.patch: deprecate old API and add new one"
[22:04] <TJ-> magento_rocks1: all supported releases receive backported security fixes
[22:05] <Jordan_U> Slade: Indeed, it's not using the symlink there.
[22:05] <pelle_> Hi! could someone help me sort a thing, whenever i try change wallpaper nothing happens, if i look in settings editor for xfce it says that the wallpaper has been changed for xscreen0 and my display does not even show there, just the second screen i have wich it works perfectly on... how do i get around this problem?
[22:05] <Slade> Jordan_U, i dont even know what the symlink means. or how i'd unfix it
[22:05] <Slade> err. fix it
[22:06] <Slade> Jordan_U, so what do you think. safe for a reboot?
[22:06] <Jordan_U> Slade: Well, if you're adventurous try rebooting. It's just as likely to fail from some other part of the upgrade. If you're not adventurous, then... too bad?
[22:06] <magento_rocks1> thanks, good to know to that the security updates are back-ported even tho the version number is still the "old version"
[22:06] <TJ-> magento_rocks1: that's to avoid adding regressions due to other code changes
[22:06] <Slade> Jordan_U, tryign to think of anything else i can check or test
[22:06] <TJ-> the ubuntu part of the version increments
[22:08] <symfony> I'm having trouble installing build-essential in 16.04 because of a size mismatch with the manpages-dev package. Anyone else seeing this?
[22:09] <hep7> so 16.04 is buggy too?
[22:09] <mladoux> hep7, seems fine to me, but I guess that depends on your use case.
[22:09] <nicomachus> nothing is ever bug-free
[22:10] <zykotick9> symfony: i'd suggest trying:  delete the file(s) from /var/cache/apt/archives/ then "sudo apt-get update" then try installing again...  good luck.
[22:10] <hep7> mladoux from basic to intermediate
[22:10] <mladoux> hep7, lol
[22:10] <nicomachus> hep7: submit a bug report. They can't fix them unless you report them.
[22:11] <hep7> nicomachus windows don't have outright bug about hidden files
[22:11] <hep7> nicomachus I think I have
[22:11] <mladoux> hep7 - I use it mainly as a dev environment... as long as my text editors, compilers, and interpreters work, the rest is merely a distraction.
[22:11] <Slade> Jordan_U, ok, here it goes. fingers crossed ;)
[22:11] <hep7> mladoux yes persistent distraction
[22:12] <mrjester> 15.10 inplace upgrade to 16.10.  System was joined to AD with realmd/sssd.  Domain auth is working except for on the lock screen.  Any suggestions for where to look for related events or what process I need to debug?
[22:12] <Slade> haha  Failed to call ScheduleShutdown in logind, proceeding with immediate shutdown: Launch helper exited with unknown return code 1
[22:12] <hep7> mladoux maybe you know why?
[22:12] <mladoux> hep7, I make no such claims.
[22:12] <TJ-> mrjester: start with /var/log/auth.log
[22:13] <n1md4> k1l: ah, did not know such a channel existed.
[22:13] <mrjester> TJ-: ty
[22:13] <hep7> mladoux also my usb peripherals don't work on furst boot
[22:14] <hep7> mladoux have to restart 2-3 times
[22:14] <TJ-> mrjester: it sounds like a PAM issue, or else the 'greeter' in which case /var/log/lightdm/greeter.log or other logs in that directory
[22:14] <hep7> who can answer that?
[22:15] <mrjester> TJ-: Yes, seeing PAM errors in auth.log.  Still parsing them.
[22:15] <bizukifu_> Hi
[22:15] <mladoux> hep7, I had the same problem, unfortunately, my fix is hardware specific to the G751 series of laptops.
[22:15] <hep7> mladoux I think so too
[22:16] <hep7> Acer e2510
[22:16] <n1md4> Orphis: had to do a complete reinstall in the end, the 15.10 -> 16.04 upgrade path broke upgrading gconf and wouldn't fix itself.
[22:16] <n1md4> the sound does work fine though, for what it's worth.  did you manage to sort your issues?
[22:16] <hep7> mladoux never will buy acer again
[22:16] <mladoux> hep7, I don't know how to fix that one. There may be some USB quirks documentation out there for it though.
[22:17] <mrjester> TJ-: Still poking around, but these are the relevant events from auth.log  http://pastie.org/private/yo8sx3urvrcr0piwuaa8sq
[22:17] <kallo82> Hello i have installed today ubuntu 16.04 and i have kinda issue , whenever i install a software i have to reboot to re-cache the application list menu
[22:17] <kallo82> anyway that i could fic this ?
[22:17] <kallo82> fix*
[22:18] <zykotick9> kallo82: reboot or logout/in?
[22:18] <hep7> kallo82 you should have waited for a month or so
[22:18] <kallo82> its working fine with me as  i had many issues on previous releases (skylane stuff)
[22:18] <hep7> kallo82 16.04 will still have bugs
[22:18] <nicomachus> hep7: you aren't helping.
[22:19] <hep7> nicomachus thanks by the way
[22:19] <hep7> nicomachus there are different types/forms of help
[22:19] <dbz2k1> hello
[22:19] <kallo82> So any idea ?
[22:19] <hep7> kallo82 no idea
[22:20] <Myrtti> hep7: this channel actually prefers the actual problem solving kind of help
[22:20] <dbz2k1> does any have issues with wifi after waking up from sleep?
[22:20] <renee> test
[22:20] <dbz2k1> one
[22:20] <hep7> dbz2k1 16.04?
[22:20] <dbz2k1> yep
[22:21] <hep7> dbz2k1 no idea
[22:21] <nicomachus> dbz2k1: details? what "issues"? what's the wifi driver and chipset?
[22:21] <hep7> dbz2k1 I had similar issue with sound in 14
[22:21] <Kubius> Hiya
[22:21] <hep7> but later on updates fixed it
[22:22] <dbz2k1> @hep7 bcm4321 it keeps glitching thinking I am connected to ethernet
[22:22] <pl7ofit> who do upgrade to 16.04? i did it,flight good :3
[22:22] <Kubius> I just updated Lubuntu and now when the PC starts up I'm getting an error: [    6.297130] i8k: unable to get SMM Dell signature
[22:22] <hep7> right now I have another issue with sound
[22:23] <Kubius> It still goes into the OS, but I have to manually click past it, and it comes up every time
[22:23] <nicomachus> dbz2k1: can you paste the output of 'sudo lshw -C network' to a pastebin and link here?
[22:23] <zykotick9> Kubius: is anything actually wrong?  is it an error, or a warning?  i have no idea what it is ;)  good luck.
[22:23] <hep7> I think canonical don't care about desktop that much anymore
[22:24] <Kubius> It's an error I think
[22:24] <nicomachus> !fud | hep7
[22:24] <dbz2k1> brb need to get on the ubuntu computer
[22:24] <zykotick9> Kubius: if you have to "click past it" it's say it's a problem!  good lcuk.
[22:24] <hep7> fud?
[22:24] <Kubius> i8k, according to my googling, has to do with dell BIOS something or other
[22:24] <zykotick9> s/it's say/i'd say/
[22:24] <TJ-> how do I map miscellaneous key events/values to functionality - in this case mapping the event values generated for brghtness -/+ to the functions themselves
[22:24] <Kubius> fan control mainly
[22:24] <hep7> can I express opinions here?
[22:24] <Kubius> so I'm afraid the CPU fan won't be able to throttle up with load
[22:25] <hep7> or this room is run by canonical?
[22:25] <mladoux> hep7 this place is more about questions and answers than opinions.
[22:25] <nicomachus> TJ-: would xinput configs be helpful?
[22:25] <dbz2k1> what why the command again @hep7
[22:25] <dbz2k1> *was
[22:25] <hep7> mladoux strange
[22:25] <nicomachus> dbz2k1: it was from me. the command was "sudo lshw -C network"
[22:25] <TJ-> nicomachus: not sure... not needed to mess with this before now
[22:25] <nicomachus> without the quotes.
[22:25] <Myrtti> hep7: not really, as this is a _support_ channel
[22:26] <mladoux> there's a general chat room for off-topic topics.
[22:26] <nicomachus> TJ-: this is for mouse keys, but I believe normal keys would be similar: https://askubuntu.com/questions/492744/how-do-i-automatically-remap-buttons-on-my-mouse-at-startup
[22:26] <zykotick9> !offtopic > mladoux
[22:26] <dbz2k1> @hep7 http://pastebin.com/V9zwGEu9
[22:26] <mladoux> zykotick9, I wasn't asking for it, I was informing hep7, no worries.
[22:26] <nicomachus> TJ-: also maybe this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Input
[22:27] <tgm4883> !offtopic | hep7
[22:27] <jsj1234> I'm on Xubuntu 15.10 using a Linksys WUSB6300 wifi adapter with rtl8812 driver for my network connection.  I'm using kernel 4.2.0-34-generic which works well.  I can use older kernel versions if I rebuild the driver, but if I try using 4.2.0-35 or 4.2.0-36 I get an error:
[22:27] <jsj1234> modprobe: ERROR: could not insert '8812': Exec format error
[22:28] <nicomachus> dbz2k1: looks like you don't have a wireless driver installed. in a terminal: sudo apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source
[22:28] <hep7> wow seems like I have pressed some red buttons by expressing opinion about canonical
[22:28] <hep7> this doesn't feel right
[22:28] <tgm4883> hep7: I don't think so
[22:28] <jsj1234> correction:  that shoult read '8812au' and not '8812'
[22:28] <nicomachus> hep7: this is a support channel. If you don't have questions besides what you've already asked, please use the #ubuntu-offtopic channel.
[22:28] <tgm4883> hep7: this channel is for support, you're being directed to an offtopic channel
[22:29] <hep7> tgm4883 how much do you get paid?
[22:29] <Kubius> hep7: you can have those opinions, just -not in this specific channel-
[22:29] <tgm4883> hep7: quite a bit, but not by canonical :)
[22:29] <n1md4> Hi.  If I choose to download the netinst version, I assume I will be able to end with a console based installed - I don't want a GUI.
[22:29] <markp> Hey all -- an attempted upgrade from 14.04 to 16.04 botched my system.  Is this the right place to find some assistance? thanks
[22:29] <dbz2k1> @nicomachus I am using the firmware-b43-installer because propriety driver were being more buggy for me
[22:29]  * tgm4883 has a contract worth 13,000 hotdogs WITH buns
[22:29] <Jordan_U> n1md4: Yes, as long as you pay attention to the prompts you're given in the installer.
[22:29] <megamanz> can someone help me install flatabulos
[22:29] <nicomachus> n1md4: just choose the server iso. :)
[22:29] <hep7> tgm4883 your love for buggy os is immense
[22:29] <Kubius> dbz2k1: yeah, the bcmwl-kernel-source item can be problematic for specific Broadcom cards
[22:30] <megamanz> I'm following the github page and did these commands :sudo add-apt-repository ppa:tualatrix/ppa sudo apt-get update
[22:30] <tgm4883> hep7: being that all I've said to you is to point you to the offtopic chat, I'm going to mark you as a troll. Thanks
[22:30] <megamanz> But this command:sudo apt-get install ubuntu-tweak gives E: Unable to locate package ubuntu-tweak
[22:30] <dbz2k1> @kubius is there any bug reports for wifi suspend issues
[22:31] <Kubius> OK so
[22:31] <dbz2k1> it seems that network manager is causing some of the issues
[22:31] <hep7> tgm4883 that's you what you do
[22:31] <nicomachus> megamanz: you need to add a PPA for ubuntu tweak.
[22:31] <nicomachus> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-tweak
[22:31] <Kubius> do you have any wi-fi drivers installed at all
[22:31] <dbz2k1> it thinks it on ethernet sometimes
[22:31] <nicomachus> Kubius: no he doesn't: http://pastebin.com/V9zwGEu9
[22:31] <tgm4883> hep7: I'll gladly discuss anything you want in #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:32] <hep7> tgm4883 well answer my questions I asked many times already
[22:32] <megamanz> nicomachus: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-tweak Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done E: Unable to locate package ubuntu-tw
[22:32] <hep7> tgm4883 if you don't get paid by canonical
[22:32] <tgm4883> hep7: I've not been following the chat too long. What would that question be
[22:32] <Kubius> dbz2k1: If you can connect via ethernet, I recommend both removing and purging bcmwl-kernel-source, and THEN running firmware-b43-installer
[22:32] <hep7> I have 3 major bugs in 14.04
[22:32] <megamanz> nicomachus: After I installed 16.04 today I can't be able to install *any* PPA it seems like
[22:33] <dbarros> anyone knows of an app that is a session timer (makes the user logoff automatically after 45 minutes, for example...a guest account)...
[22:33] <zykotick9> n1md4: personally i'd choose mini for server but YMMV
[22:33] <zykotick9> s/for/over/
[22:33] <hep7> hidden files,  sound , usb peripherals
[22:33] <tgm4883> hep7: links?
[22:33] <tgm4883> hep7: ok, what is the question on hidden files?
[22:33] <hep7> they don't go away
[22:34] <tgm4883> hep7: what do you mean?
[22:34] <megamanz> why can't i install any PPA?
[22:34] <dbz2k1> @kibius I am connected to wifi, it just have suspend issues. also why aren't my drivers showing
[22:34] <dbz2k1> on the pastebin
[22:34] <mladoux> hep7, I would suggest tackling one issue at a time, rather than trying to take them all on at once, that, and provide more detail as to the issue.
[22:34] <hep7> tgm4883 the setting is not remembered
[22:34] <Kubius> dbz2k1: I'm not sure what's flukey with your setup
[22:34] <hep7> they keep showing
[22:34] <tgm4883> hep7: in nautilus? In command line? In dolphin?
[22:35] <hep7> nautilus
[22:35] <Kubius> I have a 4318 rev 2 chipset on my wi-fi card and according to a list I'm looking at everything in the 431x series works better with firmware-b43-installer
[22:35] <dbz2k1> @kibius configuration: broadcast=yes driver=b43 driverversion=4.4.0-21-generic firmware=666.2
[22:35] <hep7> not going to install dconf
[22:35] <tgm4883> hep7: have you tried opening nautilus from command line and seeing if there is any errors when you disable it?
[22:35] <StarHeart> Anyone seen an issue with 16.04 where NetworkManager is running your dns through dnsmasq and you can't resolve your own domain?
[22:35] <Kubius> I suggest trying to purge bcmwl-kernel-source just in case, then installing firmware-b43-installer
[22:36] <Kubius> then rebooting and giving it a whirl
[22:36] <hep7> tgm4883 no
[22:36] <tgm4883> hep7: try that
[22:36] <dbz2k1> @kubius Package 'bcmwl-kernel-source' is not installed, so not removed
[22:36] <zykotick9> megamanz: note, all the PPA's will need to be updated for 16.04..  just sayin'
[22:36] <Kubius> dbz2k1: that's OK, just had to make sure
[22:37] <megamanz> zykotick9: How?
[22:37] <megamanz> Developers have to update?
[22:37] <Kubius> so uh..... anyone else happen to have knowledge about i8k? I'd really like to make sure my CPU doesn't overheat from an unknown lack of fan control
[22:37] <nicomachus> megamanz: yes, but I believe Tweak has been updated.
[22:37] <zykotick9> megamanz: yes, the people in charge of the PPA
[22:37] <tgm4883> Kubius: it's been a LONG time since I dealt with i8k stuff
[22:37] <megamanz> can anyone try to install tweak on 16.04?
[22:38] <StarHeart> megamanz: tweak?
[22:38] <citizenruin> <--is looking for information on the correct partitioning scheme for a 500gb hdd and suggestion on what flavor of ubuntu to run for (desktop, plex, coding use.)?
[22:38] <citizenruin> forgot vm use also
[22:38] <nicomachus> megamanz: actually, now that I look, there is no Xenial version of the PPA.
[22:38] <tgm4883> megamanz: their PPA hasn't been updated for 16.04
[22:38] <megamanz> ah dang it
[22:38] <dbz2k1> @kubius dumb question when I resume from sleep wifi connects, but it can't see other networks on the list and thinks its on an Ethernet connection. is that an network manager issue?
[22:38] <apes> What is the right way to change the sequence number for a SysV init script? I'm thinking of this right now: "update-rc.d foo remove; update-rc.d foo defaults NN"
[22:39] <megamanz> what's good themes for 16.04?
[22:39] <Kubius> dbz2k1: entirely possible
[22:39] <Kubius> I'd recommend installing the firmware-b43-installer thing if you don't have non-generic drivers for it, though
[22:39] <nicomachus> megamanz: yep, 404's on that PPA on xenial. Sorry. Keep checking on it, they'll get around to it soon I'm sure. That's a pretty popular package.
[22:40] <megamanz> nicomachus: Alright thanks, any tips on other good themes? I'm bored today so wanna just set up some themes
[22:40] <dbz2k1> @kubius restarting this fixes my issue network-manager.service
[22:40] <nicomachus> I like paper GTK with Numix circle icons. but I'd suggest #rice on the Rizon network or reddit.com/r/unixporn for ideas. not really on-topic here.
[22:40] <Ryu945> how do i tell ubuntu to do a full install of a program.  After I install a program and then remove it.  It doesn't create everything it created in the first install
[22:41] <Ryu945> when i install it again
[22:41] <markp> hi all... can anyone help with a botched upgrade attempt? thanks
[22:41] <megamanz> Anyway, I have dual screens and I have set one monitor as main, but new windows still open at the other monitor. How can I fix that? Had same problem at 15.04
[22:42] <Jordan_U> Ryu945: What program specifically? What isn't being created?
[22:42] <Kubius> @tgm4883 when I try to run i8kmon I get an error of "No support for device type: power_supply     while executing"
[22:42] <Jordan_U> !ltsupgrade | markp
[22:42] <Jordan_U> markp: How did you try to upgrade?
[22:42] <pijinn> why is the upgrade delayed so long? so servers won't get swamped?
[22:43] <Ryu945> Jordan_U: playonlinux.  It only made the file that goes in home on the first install
[22:43] <deadmund> Anyone know why I can't play WMV files even though I have ubuntu-restricted-extras installed?
[22:43] <markp> jordan_U: sudo update-manager -d (from 14.04)
[22:44] <Jordan_U> Ryu945: OK, you've told me what is created. What isn't created?
[22:44] <xangua> deadmund: did you try VLC?
[22:44] <Jordan_U> deadmund: How are you trying to play them? What happens when you do?
[22:44] <tgm4883> Kubius: what's the output of "dmesg | grep i8k"
[22:45] <deadmund> xangua: yes, it simply refuses to play the file (open the file, it goes to the playlist, no playing)  Clicking play does nothing.
[22:45] <Jordan_U> markp: And what happened?
[22:45] <Kubius> tgm4883: [    6.297130] i8k: unable to get SMM Dell signature
[22:45] <Ryu945> Jordan_U: on the first install it created a folder in home directory with a bunch of files.  that folder got deleted.  On the second install, it did not put it in.  It expected it to already be there
[22:45] <Kubius> same message that comes up post BIOS splash screen
[22:45] <tgm4883> Kubius: hmm, that's probably not good. Which dell?
[22:45] <Kubius> that I have to click past
[22:45] <Kubius> it's an inspiron 530
[22:45] <Kubius> (non-S, full width)
[22:45] <deadmund> Jordan_U: xangua in the terminal there are no errors.  I've also tried dragon player (Jordan_U see my previous comment)
[22:46] <markp> jordan_U: strangely it said 15.10 was available, but not 16.04, so I went ahead with 15.10, then it froze after 2 hours or so.
[22:46] <nicomachus> the dreaded 14.04 -> 15.10 upgrade...
[22:46] <Kubius> tgm4883: this only started happening after I did an update, that appeared to include some kernel things
[22:47] <megamanz> I have dual screens and I have set one monitor as main, but new windows still open at the other monitor. How can I fix that? Had same problem at 15.04
[22:47] <tgm4883> Kubius: which version of ubuntu
[22:47] <deadmund> dragon player won't even put it in the playlist Jordan_U xangua  Any ideas as to what is wrong?   I was able to play wmvs just a few days / weeks ago.  This is 14.04.4  if it matters (kubuntu)
[22:47] <slade--> Jordan_U: it failed.. :(
[22:47] <slade--> Jordan_U: sad.. i thought we had it too
[22:47] <xangua> markp: backup and reinstall
[22:48] <Kubius> tgm4883: Lubuntu 15.04
[22:48] <Ryu945> Jordan_U: ???
[22:49] <nicomachus> deadmund: catch me up: VLC wouldn't play a wmv file? no errors show when opening VLC from terminal?
[22:49] <xangua> Kubius: 15.04 is no longer supported
[22:49] <markp> xangua: I am backed up, but I was hoping not to have to do a fresh install
[22:49] <Kubius> well hell
[22:49] <Kubius> how do I fix it then
[22:49] <nicomachus> !15.04 | Kubius
[22:49] <deadmund> nicomachus: Correct, ubuntu 14.04.4 and I have ubuntu-restricted-extras installed.  I've also tried dragon player and it too cannot play wmv files.
[22:49] <Kubius> !eolupgrade
[22:49] <nicomachus> deadmund: VLC *should* be able to play it. Are you sure the file is good?
[22:50] <deadmund> nicomachus: I am very sure the file is good.  I have several, I've watched them many times before and now all .wmv cannot be played on VLC or dragon.  What else could be wrong?  Audio codecs perhaps?
[22:50] <Yeehawlerz101> vlc  should be able to play it since it can play broken files
[22:50] <Mister> some one should tell her Lee' left the building in the 1860s, SMS record How#how;
[22:51] <Kubius> well
[22:51] <Kubius> I'm gonna go upgrade this
[22:51] <Kubius> may be back later
[22:51] <Kubius> bye
[22:51] <nicomachus> deadmund: what about converting it?
[22:51] <markp> xangua: is there a way to reinstall from command line? Ctrl-Alt-F1 still works, but not Ctrl-Alt-F7
[22:51] <greengob> sudo apt-get --reinstall install
[22:52] <greengob> I prefer sudo apt-get --purge --reinstall install.
[22:52] <deadmund> nicomachus: Can you be more specific?  use vlc to decode it?
[22:52] <deadmund> nicomachus: I mean, use vlc to *transcode* it??
[22:52] <nicomachus> deadmund: I mean using VLC to transcode to .mp4 or something.
[22:52] <nicomachus> yea
[22:53]  * zykotick9 would try "sudo apt-get -f install" <- markp beware greengob replies...
[22:53] <nicomachus> deadmund: but first, what version of ffmpeg are you using? (ffmpeg --version)
[22:53] <greengob> transcoding with VLC is kinda flaky
[22:53] <citizenruin> if i split my 500gb hdd into / - 30gb, /swap - 12gb, /home 258gb, will 200gb be enough a few vms?
[22:53] <deadmund> nicomachus: I don't have ffmpeg cause I'm using ubuntu 14.04.4 they renamed it to avconv  I don't have it installed.  Should I??
[22:54] <pauljw> citizenruin, yes
[22:54] <greengob> avconv and ffmpeg are very simular in command line options.
[22:54] <deadmund> greengob: they're basically the same, yes
[22:54] <Jordan_U> deadmund: Please pastebin the output of "vlc /path/to/file.wmv".
[22:55] <deadmund> Jordan_U: Can I paste in the channel?  It's 4 lines
[22:56] <deadmund> using VLC to convert (I used the gui) produced a very small binary file that cannot be played by it or dragon.  I converted it to h.264 + mp3 (it didn't work)
[22:56] <Jordan_U> deadmund: No, four lines is still too much.
[22:56] <greengob> I have a bash script I wrote that will broadcast your desktop, or a webcam image as an html page. sometimes I use ffmpeg to create alot of desktop movies.
[22:57] <deadmund> Jordan_U: Output from vlc /path/to/that/file.wmv   http://pastebin.com/GREeaPfM
[22:57] <TJ-> nicomachus: figured it out I think. the asus_wmi driver have the KEY_{BRIGHTNESS{DOWN,UP},DISPLAYTOGGLE,TOUCHPAD_ON} etc actions *but* on this Asus T300chi the keys are all on the external docking bluetooth keyboard, which is on another input, and issues EV_REL code X value Y events which aren't mapped. Not sure if it is possible to map them together
[22:58] <Jordan_U> deadmund: You need to replace "/path/to/file" with the actual path to the .wmv file.
[22:58] <citizenruin> will the ubuntu installer be able to allow me to set these partitions or must i use another means?
[22:58] <squinty> deadmund,  you need to replace path/to/file/file  with the actual path and name of your wmv file
[22:58] <deadmund> Jordan_U: I did.  I gave a valid path.  It shows up in VLC
[22:58] <markp> zykoyick9: after "sudo apt-get -f install" it fails, with errors with initctl, insserv, update-rc.d etc.
[22:59] <nicomachus> TJ-: see, you didn't need my help at all!
[22:59] <pauljw> citizenruin, the installer will allow it, choose "other" on the partitioning screen.
[22:59] <citizenruin> pauljw: thanks sir.
[22:59] <TheFocus> stupid question:  i'm running kubuntu 15.10 and the uprade to 16.04 says its a ubuntu release...  will this change it over to ubuntu or is ubuntu the base operating system and kubuntu wtill still be an overlay - not sure if that makes snense.
[22:59] <pauljw> citizenruin, yw
[22:59] <citizenruin> sometimes it just says ubuntu there thefocus
[23:00] <Jordan_U> deadmund: Please pastebin the output of "avprobe /path/to/file.wmv".
[23:00] <TJ-> nicomachus: the help gave me clues, took me a while to figure out the issue though :) trying to find a way to link the two, now
[23:00] <deadmund> Jordan_U: I didn't have that package so hang on a second while I isntall it and try.
[23:01] <greengob> enjoy all, gotta go.
[23:01] <deadmund> Jordan_U:  http://pastebin.com/scDeypaX
[23:02] <deadmund> DRM protected stream, "decoding will likely fail!"  :P
[23:03] <Jordan_U> deadmund: You'll need to find a way around the DRM.
[23:04] <lolusux> hello i just upgraded to ubuntu 16.04 and my laptop doesnt wakeup from sleep and i have to hard reboot, any help?
[23:04] <deadmund> Jordan_U: What does that mean?  Why can Ubuntu not play the file this week but it was fine 2 months ago?  Do you have any ideas?  /me googles
[23:04] <Jordan_U> deadmund: What software were you playing it with before?
[23:05] <deadmund> Jordan_U: VLC!
[23:06] <megamanz> i downloaded icon pack .deb file and ubuntu software is saying that it's third party and won't let me install, any tips?
[23:07] <deadmund> Also, potentially related, when I watch youtube videos with VLC the color alignment is off.  Any ideas about that?  Maybe it will give a clue.  The problems came about together.
[23:08] <nicomachus> TJ-: duct tape.
[23:09] <squinty> megamanz,  might want to try gdebi (install it from repo's)
[23:09] <dean_> Hi everyone! Finally install 16.04
[23:10] <zykotick9> megamanz: my recommendation, don't install DEBs from random places... ymmv
[23:10] <TJ-> nicomachus: it may come to that :) there are no udev events, no acpi events, they are just plain key events on the BT keyboard input node, so not sure how to handle it
[23:11] <megamanz> squinty: How do I do that?
[23:11] <megamanz> zykotick9: It's flataboulus icon pack
[23:11]  * zykotick9 has NO idea what that is/or means... but sticks buy the "don't install DEBs from random places" ;)
[23:11] <squinty> megamanz,  in terminal type the following   sudo apt install gdebi
[23:12] <megamanz> squinty: And now?
[23:13] <squinty> megamanz, after install is finished, right click on the deb in your file manager and select  open with gdebi
[23:13] <megamanz> squinty: Thanks!
[23:13] <Jordan_U> markp: Boot from an Ubuntu 16.04 LiveCD/USB and re-install.
[23:13] <squinty> megamanz,  yw
[23:14] <nicomachus> deadmund: when I was asking what version of ffmpeg you had, I was looking at this: https://askubuntu.com/questions/568987/vlc-unable-to-play-wmv
[23:14] <nicomachus> that top answer could be helpful.
[23:14] <deadmund> nicomachus: thanks!
[23:15] <markp> Jordan_U: will my files remain on my hard drive?
[23:16] <nicomachus> deadmund: so, check and see if you have that 56 branch of libavcodec, but you probably don't. A full purge and reinstall of VLC and ubuntu-restricted-extras may resolve it.
[23:17] <deadmund> nicomachus: I'm trying the purge now.  I don't have 56  the only branch in 14.04.4 is 54
[23:17] <megamanz> faltabulous looks sick!
[23:17] <megamanz> flatabulous*
[23:17] <deadmund> nicomachus: I wish I could check mime types / conflicts
[23:17] <zfsnut> hi, I had a RAIDZ2 zpool on my old computer, and now I've got all of the drives (ZFS intact on all of them) in my new computer - how can I recreate the zpool on my new computer from the drives? all of the drives are seen by zdb...
[23:18] <Ryu945> i think i found a bug in the ubuntu wiki.  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[23:18] <Ryu945> it is calling 14.04.2 and 14.04.3 Trusty when their names are Utopic and Vivid
[23:19] <Ryu945> as shown here  http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Rilasci/PointRelease?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=kernel14.04.x.png
[23:19] <nicomachus> Ryu945: 14.04.2 and 14.04.3 are both called Trusty.
[23:19] <Slade> Jordan_U, huh so it failed to shutdown properly, but it came right back up after a hard reboot.. strangest upgrade ever.. Thanks so much for your assistance
[23:20] <nicomachus> Ryu945: Utopic and Vivid are 14.10 and 15.04, respectively. They are both EOL, so aren't listed on the release page.
[23:20] <Ryu945> NickG365: oh
[23:20] <alu> upgrading to 16.04 from 15.10 broke my cuda installation
[23:20] <ToeSnacks> I just complete the upgrade from 15.10 to 16.04 and after restarting following the install the screen is alternating every 2 seconds between black and displaying ^[[26~ in the top left of the screen. Does anyone know what I can do to at least get a login prompt?
[23:21] <alu> is 16.04 using cuda 7.5
[23:22] <megamanz> squinty: You know why every new window for all apps opens on other monitor but not my main monitor?
[23:22] <Jordan_U> Slade: You're welcome. Out of curiosity, what is the contents of /proc/self/mountinfo after the upgrade?
[23:23] <FManTropyx> so, is 16.04 named Xenophobic?
[23:23] <nicomachus> xenial xerus
[23:24] <Slade> Jordan_U, https://gist.github.com/anonymous/5925946a226d6bbe812122a33ff5435e
[23:24] <Term1nal> nicomachus: 14.04 is EOL?
[23:24] <nicomachus> Term1nal: no... not until April 2019
[23:24] <Slade> Jordan_U, they look saner
[23:24] <mbff> Hello! I am trying to create a systemd startup script however I keep running into a pub key error. https://gist.github.com/marshallford/f0a91b08aa42d81f7e5b0739166abb25
[23:25] <Term1nal> nicomachus: well you just said it was EOL :D so that seemed a bit misleading
[23:25] <nicomachus> Term1nal: I said 14.10 and 15.04
[23:26] <Term1nal> oh, I read it as 14.04 :D
[23:26] <Term1nal> derp
[23:26] <deadmund> nicomachus: no luck :(
[23:27] <mota> so I have been doing a little reading about Ubuntu Core (Snappy). Is that currently cloud only? How realistic would it be for regualr desktop use?
[23:29] <Jordan_U> mota: The convenience and isolation (from one thing accidentally breaking another) appears to be there. The security benefits from isolation aren't there for GUI apps, it's as if that additional isolation weren't there at all (like non snappy apps). I don't think many Desktop snaps are available, but you could certainly release your own.
[23:30] <zfsnut> holy cow - nevermind, all I did was startup my new computer, installed zfs (rebooted), and zfs already picked up all of the previous drives in the pool, recreated the pool exactly how it was, and already mounted it for me! ZFS is awesome!!!
[23:30] <mota> for the moment I see the snap paradigm as being primarily about stability, with security benefits perhaps down the road
[23:33] <alu> how does one install cuda on 16.04
[23:33] <alu> sudo apt-get install nvidia-cuda-dev is 7.5
[23:34] <Jordan_U> Slade: Indeed. Would you like to try getting rid of your separate /boot/ then?
[23:34] <ToeSnacks> How do I force Ubuntu to start without x
[23:35] <zykotick9> ToeSnacks: disable whatever DM you are using...  good luck.
[23:35] <Jordan_U> ToeSnacks: Select the "Recovery Mode" option from the "Advanced options for Ubuntu" submenu at the grub menu.
[23:36] <Jordan_U> ToeSnacks: If you're not seeing the grub menu at boot then either hold shift down (for a BIOS based system) or spam the escape key (for a UEFI based system).
[23:36] <zykotick9> Jordan_U: ahhh... are you sure about that?  won't that put you in "root" mode or something?
[23:36] <Jordan_U> zykotick9: Indeed it would, good point.
[23:37] <Jordan_U> ToeSnacks: You probably don't want recovery / single user mode after all.
[23:37] <ToeSnacks> Ok cool, what do I want?
[23:38] <ToeSnacks> I am in recovery mode now lol
[23:38] <ToeSnacks> Trying failsafe x
[23:38] <Jordan_U> ToeSnacks: Why don't you want to start X?
[23:39] <zykotick9> ToeSnacks: don't try to start xorg from recovery mode!
[23:40] <ToeSnacks> Because my computer won't start anymore after upgrading to 16.04 and I want to see if it's my video driver crashing which is the cause
[23:40] <zykotick9> ToeSnacks: and "lscpi | grep -i vga" is?
[23:40] <dsfdsf> hi, updating from 14.04 to 16.04, booted from stick(live), i get splash screen, then mouse, but top of screen reads "A start job is running for Ubuntu live CD installer (2min 2s / no limit)"...and is hung there counting away the seconds
[23:41] <ToeSnacks> Not sure how I would get you that info if the computer won't start
[23:41] <zykotick9> ToeSnacks: i thought you said you where in recovery?  sorry never mind.  best of luck to you.
[23:41] <ToeSnacks> The recovery menu
[23:41] <zykotick9> ahhh
[23:42] <Wolfgang_Rudolf> i had issues with apport-gtk it generates a error log and then crashes, and because it's apport it does a vicious cycle
[23:43] <zykotick9> ToeSnacks: _sounds_ to me like Jordan_U's origional suggestion is correct in this case... my bad...
[23:45] <ToeSnacks> Alright I got in to a terminal
[23:45] <ToeSnacks> I don't think it's x
[23:45] <zykotick9> ToeSnacks: and "lscpi | grep -i vga" is?
[23:46] <zykotick9> ToeSnacks: the *real* question is... do you see ATI/AMD in above output?
[23:46] <uofm49426> what is the xubuntu chanel  cant be found
[23:46] <ToeSnacks> If I get into recovery and then select resume I can get into the graphical login screen no problem but I get kicked back when I log in
[23:46] <ToeSnacks> And no i use an nvidia and Intel card
[23:46] <win32> Hello here..
[23:47] <win32> Why can view at my utb.. my mouse.icon ?
[23:47] <ToeSnacks> It's a discreet system in a laptop, the kind you need to use bumblebee with
[23:47] <markp> Jordan_U: if I boot from 16.04 LiveDVD, will my hard drive files remain?
[23:48] <zykotick9> ToeSnacks: ok <- about non-ati.  if you can get back to a terminal, try "ls -l /home/YOURUSER/.Xauthority" <- _if_ it has root as owner/group that _is_ a problem... if not... it's something else.  good luck.
[23:48] <isaac> hey
[23:48] <Jordan_U> markp: If you pay careful attention while installing you can keep your existing /home/. As always though, you should have good backups.
[23:48] <isaac> im making a ubuntu based distro
[23:48] <isaac> any ideas for programs?
[23:49] <josephcvega> Um hello?
[23:49] <isaac> hey
[23:49] <josephcvega> Can anyone here help me with something
[23:49] <isaac> shure
[23:49] <isaac> what?
[23:50] <markp> Jordan_U: And the LiveDVD boot can fix a botched upgrade? I do have everything backed up.
[23:50] <Jordan_U> isaac: That's more of an #ubuntu-offtopic question.
[23:50] <catbeard> is there specific documentation for Ubuntu Server regarding mode 6 bonding options?
[23:50] <josephcvega> Well my laptop is not detecting any internet connections, I'm right next to my router but it finds nothing
[23:50] <Jordan_U> markp: "fix" in that re-installing will get you a newly installed and presumably working system, yes.
[23:51] <catbeard> other than https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBonding
[23:51] <ToeSnacks> What is fail whale?
[23:51] <catbeard> like a practical example or tutorial
[23:51] <ragay> hi
[23:51] <win32> Lol
[23:51] <markp> Jordan_U: Okay thanks, will try.
[23:51] <win32> Why its hidden a mouse icone
[23:51] <catbeard> josephcvega: step away from the router
[23:51] <ragay> how to play HL on lunix
[23:52] <catbeard> bring your device with you
[23:52] <win32> I cant view.. :O
[23:52] <josephcvega> Ok
[23:52] <catbeard> change broadcast channel to whatever has the best reception where you'd like to have it placed using Wifi Analyzer on Android
[23:52] <Jordan_U> markp: You're welcome.
[23:52] <catbeard> by farproc, might also be one for iOS
[23:53] <ToeSnacks> zykotick9: xauthority is owned by my user so it isn't that
[23:53] <zykotick9> ToeSnacks: ummm...  i have no further suggestions sorry.  best of luck!
[23:53] <Jordan_U> josephcvega: Please pastebin the output of "lspci -vnn".
[23:53] <ToeSnacks> Alright thanks for trying
[23:53] <ToeSnacks> I see some critical errors in the syslog
[23:54] <bobdobbs> I can no longer update ubuntu 14.04. When I run 'apt-get dist upgrade' the terminal freezes after the message "initctl: Unkown jon mysql'
[23:55] <bobdobbs> After the freeze I close the terminal window. After that I have to delete lock files to attempt to run apt-get operations again
[23:55] <bobdobbs> All apt-get operations I've run fail with that same error
[23:56] <ElAleph> I'm trying to install my Epson L355 inkjet printer
[23:56] <ElAleph> driver: epson-inkjet-printer-201207w
[23:56] <ElAleph> Ubuntu 16.04 Xenial
[23:56] <ElAleph> error: Depends: lsb (>=3.2) but it is not installable
[23:56] <bobdobbs> In an attempt to get rid of that error I attempted to purge mysql in order to reinstall it. But when trying to purge it, I got that initctl error again: "unknown job"
[23:59] <megaman> how do you make monitor at right as main monitor?
[23:59] <squinty> bobdobbs,  seems like there a quite a few google hits when searching for that error.  might want to take a look at  http://askubuntu.com/questions/525912/error-installing-mysql-server-on-ubuntu-14-04