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RoadRunnerxangua: :) I started getting a blue tooth indicator in my indicator plugin in Panel.  Can blue tooth start be disabled? ie: not how to hide the icon but not to have the process start in the first place?00:20
xubuntu90whello, I just did a clean install of 16.04 and have removed a few default applications: parole (which I replaced with VLC) and pidgin (which I simply never use). I did so by using the command sudo-apt get purge package. Is this the best way to completely remove default apps?00:39
ali1234yes00:39
xubuntu90wDoes the purge command remove all packages and dependencies?00:39
ali1234no00:40
ali1234you need autoremove to remove dependencies00:40
xubuntu90wWell, my intention is to completely remove the software00:40
ali1234you probably won't find many though00:40
xubuntu90wCan I still use the autoremove command although I've already purged?00:40
ali1234yes it is a separate command00:40
xubuntu90wGot it00:41
ali1234you have to purge first otherwise there will be no unused dependencies00:41
xubuntu90wSo I should purge and follow with the autoremove command when I uninstall software?00:41
ali1234yes00:42
ali1234if you want00:42
xubuntu90walright thanks00:42
ali1234there is no benefit to uninstalling software, unless you are really limited on disk space00:42
xubuntu90wJust tried autoremove, but get the notification that 'parole' is not installed, so not removed00:42
ali1234you don't specify a package with autoremove00:42
xubuntu90wI see00:42
xubuntu90wHow is autoremove different from autoclean?00:43
ali1234maybe you can and it will remove that package and all dependencies00:43
ali1234but i never used it like that00:43
ali1234clean/autoclean is for cleaning up the package cache00:43
ali1234the downloaded files. not the installed files00:43
ali1234look in /var/cache/apt00:44
ali1234it is for cleaning that00:44
xubuntu90wchecking now00:44
xubuntu90wDon't see anything related to either parole or pidgin in that folder00:45
xubuntu90wBut anyway, what lead me to beleive that the applications were not completely removed is that parole is listed in 'settings editor' on the left hand menu00:48
xubuntu90wIs it safe to run the autoremove and autoclean commands regularly to maintain the system?00:49
xubuntu90wOr is there a potential to remove system files that are needed00:50
ali1234theoretically it is safe00:50
ali1234but bugs happen00:51
xubuntu90wshould I use sudo or no00:51
xubuntu90wwhen running those00:51
ali1234it wont work without sudo00:51
xubuntu90wgot it00:52
xubuntu90wI've been told that, unlike windows, ubuntu requires no defraging00:52
ali1234windows doesn't require defragging either00:53
xubuntu90wOh, I assumed it was considering windows OS' have the disk defrag utility00:54
ali1234they tried to remove it and people complained00:54
xubuntu90winteresting00:54
ali1234buy an ssd if drive speed is a problem00:54
xubuntu90wIt's not an issue, I was looking into an SSD but my I have a decent warranty with my machine so I can replace the hdd if it fails for free00:55
xubuntu90wSo i'll likely just wait to get an SSD when I get a new laptop00:56
xubuntu90w*but I have00:56
xubuntu90wPlus xubuntu is super fast to begin with00:56
xubuntu82won startup, the bluetooth icon appears in my panel (but I don't have bluetooth). How can I stop it from appearing?01:13
xubuntu82wIs there a system app for changing what launches on the panel? There's no way to remove it from the indicator plugin settings01:23
jpt9Okay, *almost* everything works after the update.  The mouse pointer seems to disappear when I unlock it, but changing the pointer shape (by typing a bit in the Whisker menu and pointing around) seems to get it back...01:51
Magnetz74Does anyone use wmctile?01:52
xubuntu468hi02:00
xubuntu38wis xubuntu 16.04 visible for anyone on the software updater? for me (14.04) it just says I can upgrade to 15.1002:26
Unit193xubuntu38w: For LTS releases, it won't prompt until .102:27
xubuntu38wdoes that mean I should upgrade to 15.10 so I can go to 16.04?02:28
Unit193Not usually, no.02:39
Magnetz74Still trying to find people to help me use wmctile to auto-tile windows using xfwm403:18
Magnetz74No one uses wmctile? https://github.com/mreq/wmctile03:18
Magnetz74Anyone here know ruby?03:18
Magnetz74Where is the config file where my keyboard shortcuts in Xubuntu are stored?03:32
Magnetz74They're not in /etc/xdg/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml or /etc/xdg/xdg-xubuntu/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml03:33
RhonyHello, is anybody get successfully upgrading to 16 from 15 ?03:36
Magnetz74Ah, found it... It's in .config of course03:38
Magnetz74I haven't tried it yet personally03:39
PlanckWalkI've been using the Xenial beta of Xubuntu for a while, and saw the release today.  However, I can't update - "sudo apt update" tells me W: Failed to fetch http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/xenial/InRelease  Clearsigned file isn't valid, got 'NOSPLIT' (does the network require authentication?)"04:21
PlanckWalkWill I have to wipe and reinstall from CD?04:22
PlanckWalkAs in, it's pretty much a throwaway system that I was just testing the beta, and wondering whether I'm better off just downloading a fresh release CD04:27
scottfHi there. I have a Dell D600 that I just put xubuntu 16.04 on but I cannot get my wifi up and running. My Broadcom card has PCIid of 14e4:4324 and installed the firmware-b43-installer and rebooted but still nothing. Any help on next steps would be appreciated... Thanks!05:33
scottfI also ran the following commands sudo modprobe -r b43  sudo modprobe b43      sudo rfkill unblock all per a ubuntu post I found that appeared to be authoritative.05:35
RhonyYey, im successfully upgrading from 15.10 to 16.04 LTS šŸ˜€/ device: HP ProBook 44006:43
sorinel1oHello. When I run the Software Updater, it tells me a new version is out. But when I click on upgrade and type my user password, the window/application simply disappears. Anyone has encountered this behavior before ?06:58
mahello07:30
macan't install Chrome 64 on 16.04.07:30
mano xchat in 16.04 too.07:30
mawhat is going on?07:30
flocculantma: use hexchat - fork of xchat07:31
flocculantchrome there is apparently and issue with it and gnome software, you can use gdebi to do the same thing07:32
ma_and what about chrome64?07:33
ma_to use ff? :>07:33
ma_blubird xfce theme?07:34
flocculantma_: install gdebi - use that to install chrome from it's .deb07:34
flocculantma_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/FinalRelease/Xubuntu07:35
ma_Errors were encountered while processing:07:42
ma_ google-chrome-stable07:42
ma_no go ...07:42
ma_when chrome64 is installed via gdebi after that in the update:07:53
ma_W: http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/dists/stable/Release.gpg: Signature by key 4CCA1EAF950CEE4AB83976DCA040830F7FAC5991 uses weak digest algorithm (SHA1)07:53
ma_ 07:53
piepluhi all, may i ask a question here : i face an annoying gui experience : i use a lot of distant VMs and i connect to then either using xephyr or rdesktop, but those two windowed apps have the same icon in "Window Buttons" taskbar, so that it's quite hard to differenciate wich icon i must click to show up the wanted VM. So ideally i would like a tool to set icons dynamically for windows, a command line tool would be great (i already use 07:54
ma_16.04 is a crap for now.07:55
pellskihi! could someone enlighten me abit, i got this new monitor yesterday, i connected it and it works as its supposed to (got another screen connected aswell they both work) However i cant change wallpaper on my new screen, its like the old screen is still mounted or something, how do i get past this?08:10
pellskithis is what my xrandr output looks like http://pastebin.com/UW9utsHT08:13
ewethi, what is a reliable way to fix pulseaudio woes? I have just upgraded to 16.04. I'm perfectly okay with a how-to10:25
xubuntu09wis xubuntu 16.04 minimal cd available somewhere?10:28
max12345ewet because I'm also looking into solving a sound problem I found these two guides, I don't know if they're helpful though: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=188524010:29
eweteverytime I upgrade (x)ubuntu I have to convince it to use both my integrated sound chip and the pci card. I know, I did it before but I keep forgetting how ... :-/10:33
ewetmax12345: the oneliner in Step 1 in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshootingProcedure is a real gem :-/10:38
max12345ewet, ok I might try that one myself then10:40
ewetmax12345: please don't, that was sarcasm!10:41
max12345oh because it just deletes all configs?10:41
ewetmostly because it does an `apt-get` (pretty much re-installing ubuntu) and then the same one with `-y` after that.10:43
max12345ewet,  oh that one, hehe I thought the one earlier, I didn't really read it... it's just something I found.10:44
sorinel1oHello. When I run the Software Updater, it tells me a new version is out. But when I click on upgrade and type my user password, the window/application simply disappears. Anyone has encountered this behavior before ?10:47
ewetawesome. it magically appeared. I did nothingā„¢10:48
ewetwell, my sound problems are fixed then :) *shakes head*10:48
max12345ewet, that has been my experience with sound control too10:49
max12345or things remain unfixed10:49
ewetit's schroedinger's pulse audio :)10:50
pelle_Hi! could someone help me with this please http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2321334&p=13474471#post13474471 its so freakin annoying11:12
xubuntu93wHi, I've installed xubuntu 16.04 then tried to change themes. I've downloaded some new themes then extracted and copied the folder to /usr/share/themes but can't find them in "appearance" program. But i can see them in "window manager"12:23
xubuntu93wcan anyone help me plz?12:23
pavlushkaxubuntu93w: wait for a while, someone might help you but I dont know much about it.12:32
knomexubuntu93w, if the themes are window manager themes only, then they shouldn't appear under appearance12:32
xubuntu93wokay :)12:32
xubuntu93wThanks @pavlushka12:32
pavlushkaxubuntu93w: well, thank knome ,:p12:33
xubuntu93wok, I guess xfwm4 are window manager theme only ?12:35
knomeyes12:35
ReptiliaSoftware center not opening on Xubuntu 16.04. Wi-Fi not working on Xubuntu 16.04.12:47
knomeReptilia, have you filed bugs?12:50
Reptiliaknome:Nope12:50
knome"reporting" on this channel isn't useful12:50
Reptiliaknome:Was thinking that it's a known issue and that there might be a quick fix.12:53
knomeif it was a known issue, it would have been mentioned in the release announcement/notes, which you have surely read?12:53
knomeanyway, are you referring to the ubuntu software center?12:53
knomegnome software replaced that in 16.04 in both ubuntu and xubuntu, and i don't know if the USC should work at all any more12:54
knomeon "wifi doesn't work", we'll need details like your wifi adapter to be able to even start debugging12:54
Reptiliaknome:Yup, i meant the new "Software" app.13:01
ReptiliaIt won't even execute.13:01
Reptiliaknome:Intel Centrino Advanced 6200-N13:02
Reptiliaknome:Actually, it loads, but it is not working at all (Search is not returning results, icons are missing, there is nothing that is click-able, etc.)13:03
xubuntu78dhey, I was trying to install 16.04 but at the end of the installation I faced this: the 'grub-efi-ia32' package failed to install into /target/. without the grub boot loader, the installed system will not boot14:08
xubuntu78dhow to I solve this problem?14:08
xubuntu95ihi14:35
knobHello everyone!15:01
knobJust upgraded to 16.0415:01
knobSo far, so good...   got an odd bug where the pointer (mouse) disappears from screen.  It moves, and highlights and clicks, yet I can't see the pointer itself.15:02
thc202knob, seems to be one of the known issues described in http://xubuntu.org/news/xubuntu-16-04-release/15:20
knobthc202, checking that link out now!15:23
knobthanks15:23
knobhmm... mouse just re-popped up15:23
knobwth15:23
knobWhen returning from lock, the cursor disappears on the desktop, you can bring the cursor back with Ctrl+Alt+F1 followed by Ctrl+Alt+F715:24
knobnice nice =)15:24
thc202:)15:24
knobthe only other thing I've seen... is that in panel, I always added some items.   Like the Workspace... yet one of the "items" is missing.15:25
knobThere is the CPU15:25
knobwait... scratch that.  I am babbling... it's right there.15:25
knobInstead of the "CPU Graph" item, I use the "System Load Monitor" item.15:26
knobHmm... I think it's in a 16.04 VM from scratch that I don't see the "System Load Monitor" item.   Confirming in a sec...15:26
knobNope... it's also there.   Scratch all the my lasts 5 sentences.  Everything is as it should be.  =)15:27
Mike1hi folks! When I click on ā€œSound Settingsā€ in the indicator sound applet nothing happens. Any package I have to install for it?16:53
Mike1Iā€™ve upgraded from 15.10 to 16.0416:53
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GeekDewdIs webcam support really disabled in 16.04?17:18
flocculantGeekDewd: for mugshot17:22
flocculantnot generally17:22
GeekDewdah, ok17:23
GeekDewdThe webcam on my laptop doesn't work correctly in 15.10 anyways, so I'm not overly concerned17:24
xubuntu32wHello?17:28
xubuntu30whello, anyone here that could lend me a hand with this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2321334&p=13474471#post1347447118:43
xubuntu87wi'm having trouble configuring bluez tarball on xubuntu 16.0418:55
xubuntu87wcould someone help me?18:55
g4b1thi guys, xubuntu 16.04 will downgrade my kernel if I upgrade from 14.04?19:37
pelle__Hello, could someone please take a look at this, been at it for the whole day but gotten nowhere http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2321334&p=13474471#post1347447119:38
krytarik!info linux-generic | g4b1t19:38
ubottug4b1t: linux-generic (source: linux-meta): Complete Generic Linux kernel and headers. In component main, is optional. Version 4.4.0.21.22 (xenial), package size 1 kB, installed size 11 kB19:38
g4b1tubottu, thanks19:41
ubottuYou're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)19:41
XserallHello everyone does anyone know an alternative for "gnome-control-center network" for xfce nm-connection-editor lets me create multiple networks and vlans but there is no option to turn them on and off.19:57
xubuntu08wis anyone else having an issue with the mouse pointer dissapearing randomly?20:20
xubuntu08wI20:20
xubuntu08wI'm on 16.04, the only fix is to log off and back on again20:21
xubuntu08wTried going to disable 'unknown display' in my system settings, but there is no unknown display. So the issue is caused by something else20:24
flocculantxubuntu08w: no - the only fix is NOT to do that20:26
flocculantread the release announcement in the topic20:26
flocculantxubuntu08w: unless of course - you are actually seeing this randomly - in which case that's a new issue20:27
xubuntu08wWell, when I log in it is visible (it currently is). However, after some time it will become invisble, though it still functions. This doesn't happen every time I use my machine.20:28
flocculantxubuntu08w: so this is not after screen lock?20:29
xubuntu08wIt may occur after locking the screen. I haven't made that connection.20:30
flocculantxubuntu08w: well that IS a known issue - with intel graphics20:30
flocculantplease check :)20:30
xubuntu08wChecking now20:31
xubuntu08wthe solution listed works20:32
xubuntu08wjust tested20:32
xubuntu08wthanks, sorry I missed that release note, I just briefly glanced over them20:32
flocculantlol20:33
xubuntu08wyeah my bad haha20:33
pelle_Hi i got 2 monitors connected, they both work. but the main one i cant set desktop wallpaper etc on, in settings editor only the 2nd screen shows up. Same thing if i look in displays.xml why is that? and how do i get my main monitor stored in displays.xml?20:34
jannemannac21:38
smenkareanyone done the upgrade to 16?21:41
laurahyesterday :)21:45
jannemannjust installed 16.04, but didnt really upgrade. Im afraid of errors^^21:45
jannemannseems like they've done a bit of work on the graphics and font21:46
xubuntu34whi im having 2 issues.21:50
xubuntu34w1 whenever i close the lid on my hp tc4200 and open it up again it gets stuck on a black screen21:51
xubuntu34wand 2, for some reason the system isnt switching over to my second battery when my main one discharges21:51
xubuntu34wi have an HP travel battery and my main one.21:52
brontideanyone have a pointer for google chrome not respecting scrolling direction for the rest of the system.  It's always using "natural" no matter what the system settings are.22:01
brontideI have searched and checked chrome://flags without any luck.22:01
xubuntu01wany volunteers able to help?22:17
Azelphur!ask | xubuntu01w22:18
ubottuxubuntu01w: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience22:18
xubuntu01whello, i have 2 issues. 1, when i shut the lid on my laptop and open it back up my computer gets stuck on a black screen. 2, my computer uses 2 batteries one main and one travel, when the main discharges it doesnt switch over to the travel one.22:19
brontideI've got a Dell CB 13 and the backlight controls of xubuntu don't seem to work right.  I can echo brightness command to /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight, but the statusbar or media keys don't seem to have any effect ( except show an indicator that is incorrect )22:29
xubuntu25iHi guys, I was wondering how can install the xubuntu-restricted-extras without flash and java?22:51
xubuntu25iin the new fotware manager there's no restricted extras22:51
xubuntu25isoftware22:52
xubuntu25iand the command line installes everything inlcuding java and flash22:52
xubuntu25ibut I don't want java nor flash22:52
mrkrampsxubuntu25i, apt-cache show xubuntu-restricted-extras22:52
mrkrampsand the just choose manually the packages you want22:53
xubuntu25ioh this is sooo call thanks :-)22:53
mrkrampsprobably you will also have a loog at:$ apt-cache show xubuntu-restricted-addons22:53
xubuntu01wwhen you get your question answered it is ;)22:53
mrkramps--loog ++look22:53
xubuntu25ithanks much appreciated22:54
xubuntu25ihave a nice day22:54
mrkrampsyou're welcome22:55
mrkrampsxubuntu01w, when closing the lid does your laptop suspend?22:56
xubuntu01wim assuming it does, the wifi indicator shuts down22:57
mrkrampsdisable suspend on closing lid might help then22:57
xubuntu01wis suspend different than sleep?22:58
mrkrampsafaik not22:58
xubuntu01wis this a bug?22:58
mrkrampssuspend does not always work reliably on some devices22:59
mrkrampsxubuntu01w, just look around on the net for your laptop model and ubuntu + suspend22:59
xubuntu01wokay, i will try that. might you know what the issue is with my battery? my travel battery does not take over23:00
xubuntu01wi've looked around and it says that its been fixed but seems like it hasnt.23:00
mrkrampsxubuntu01w, concerning your battery issue i have no idea, sry ā€¦ it is quite some specific problem23:01
xubuntu01wokay thank you very very much23:01
xubuntu01wi appreciate you volunteering your help linux is awesome23:01
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dsfdsfhi, updating from 14.04 to 16.04, booted from stick(live), i get xubuntu splash screen, then mouse, but to of scren reads "A start job is running for Ubuntu live CD installer (2min 2s / no limit)"23:38
dsfdsfand it's hung there, any ideas?23:38
uofm49426before i go into problem i first will give my system info im using Dell inspiron 3452 running xubuntu 16.0423:51
uofm49426running from a usb hard drive23:52
uofm49426specs intel celeron n3050 4gb ram intel 5300 hd graphics23:53
uofm49426everytime i boot in to system i need to ender nomodeset23:54
uofm49426everytime i boot in to system i need to enter nomodeset23:54
GeekDewdWhat happened to the software center in 16.04? I tried installing google-chrome.deb by double-click, and it popped up looking very oddly from how I remember in previous releases. Plus, the install button didn't work. Anyways, I ended up using dpkg and apt-get to satisfy the dependencies.23:54
mrkrampsGeekDewd, USC is deprecated, since 16.04 Gnome Software is used23:55
GeekDewdAh. That's probably why it looks nothing like USC23:56
uofm49426what do i need to do to fix this23:56
GeekDewduofm49426: You can specify that parameter in /etc/default/grub23:56
DUKENUKEMhi guys, im here in the install CD.  During install, will xubuntu format BOTH hard drives, or just one?   /dev/sda is the one I want to format and install, and /dev/sdb is one i dont want the installation to touch23:56
GeekDewdthen run the update-grub utility after editing /etc/default/grub23:56
DUKENUKEMmy question is for if i choose to have xubuntu do it automatically23:57
GeekDewdThe line you'll need to change is GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT23:57
DUKENUKEMrather than myself23:57
uofm49426i dont do this in 15.04 why does it do this now23:57
GeekDewduofm49426: Your hardware could be becoming deprecated, though I can't really say for certain why it's doing what it's doing23:59

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