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keithzgvalorie: It's definitely *supposed* to be about baloo. (In the end I just used balooctl to stop the indexing . . . although it still seems to be chewing up CPU cycles even though it's now reporting "idle").00:44
keithzgWeird that the kcm has gone missing.00:45
valoriehmmm, strange00:48
valorieI wonder why apt-cache doesn't found that00:48
keithzgvalorie: "dpkg -L kinfocenter | grep fileindex" seems to show that the rest of the fileindexermonitor KCM is . . . maybe there? Hmm. Judging by https://quickgit.kde.org/?p=kinfocenter.git it's certainly from the kinfocenter git repo, at least, so I would've thought it'd be packaged with kinfocenter.01:21
telegram<@ovidiuflorin>: any devs here?01:27
telegram<@ovidiuflorin>: this is not a website bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kubuntu-website/+bug/157386001:27
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1573860 in Kubuntu Website "upgrade from 15.10 to 16.04 failed" [Undecided,New]01:27
telegram<@sgclark2>: No.01:28
telegram<@ovidiuflorin>: is it a known issue?01:28
telegram<@sgclark2>: Change the bug to mysql?01:28
telegram<@sgclark2>: The mysql change has not been a smooth transition. So kinda yeah. Assign it to them and I am sure they will kick it back if our problem.01:30
telegram<@ovidiuflorin>: ok01:30
telegram<@ovidiuflorin>: thank you01:30
telegram<@sgclark2>: Not at home, or near laptop to look at bug01:30
telegram<@ovidiuflorin>: you helped me even like this01:32
telegram<@ovidiuflorin>: you rule/rock01:32
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clivejohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5F-1cuBfSm009:36
telegram<@ovidiuflorin>: is snap just an Ubuntu thing?10:35
telegram<@ovidiuflorin>: or is it cross distros?10:35
BluesKajHi folks11:38
Sick_RimmitHi Freinds, this is XChat on my Ubuntu Tablet, with Kbd and Mouse..12:42
Sick_RimmitIt's pretty cool12:42
* Sick_Rimmit Grins like a Cheshire cat12:42
telegram<@sgclark2>: Nice!12:49
telegram<@sgclark2>: /jealous12:49
soee_yofel: shouldn't plasma-pa be installed when upgrading to 16.04? One user reported that kmix was uninstalled during upgrade but plasma-pa was not added13:12
mamarleyI am still using kmix for now because plasma-pa won't let you change the default audio device, and several of my computers want to display the volume of the the HDMI audio device even though that isn't normally the one I use.14:10
mamarleyI hear that is fixed in the next release, though, maybe that could get staged soon? :)14:10
BluesKajmamarley, which audio chip ?14:11
mamarleyBluesKaj: Intel HDA and NVIDIA HDMI14:12
ahoneybunweird my correct audio is picked14:12
ahoneybunonly when I'm messing with webcams and such14:12
BluesKajmamarley, you can run successfully without pulseaudio with the snd-hda-intel driver , I usually purge pulseaudio and pulseaudio-utils and let alsa be the sound server ...works fine here 14:15
mamarleyBluesKaj: It isn't that the sound comes out of the wrong device by default (it doesn't), plasma-pa just displays the wrong volume control.14:15
mamarleyIronically enough, however, on this particular laptop the audio *will* come out the wrong device if I disable PulseAudio, requiring lots of asoundrc incantations to fix.14:16
mamarleyAlso, it makes it really difficult to switch between audio outputs at all, which is why I installed PulseAudio on it in the first place back a long time ago.14:17
BluesKajwell, that's your call , mamarley , i find it easier to set up my audio outputs in vlc with alsa as the  default playback device in system settings>multimedia14:20
mamarleyIn VLC it is easy, but some other programs make it much more difficult.  With PulseAudio, I can switch devices on any stream at any time.14:20
mamarley(I actually used to be a PulseAudio-hater, believe it or not.)14:21
BluesKajyeah pulse has it;s uses for simultaneous sources etc , but I have no need for them 14:29
BluesKajanyway fwiw I thought I'd  let you know about the advanatges of the intel driver/chip over other chips thet require pulse to work because they're written to depnd on it14:31
BluesKajdepend even14:32
BluesKajobviously pulse has a bug on 15.10 and 16.04, I've seen that hdmi default card0 setting before 14:33
BluesKajmamarley, try using pavucontrol , i found that a handy  output tool for setting up my m-audio card 14:43
* sheytan done with fresh install16:54
sheytanThere are many of empty Activities called Desktop created after you clean install. Anybody can confirm?16:54
BluesKajsheytan, clean install to a separate /  and /home setup or just / ?17:04
sheytanBluesKaj: just / but deleted all the hidden files before first run17:15
sheytanfrom /home/user ofc17:15
ahoneybunwow bluetooth audio is garbage17:17
BluesKajsheytan,  why delete the hidden files ?17:19
ahoneybunmm17:24
BluesKajsheytan, my advice would be to reinstall kubuntu-desktop and plasma-desktop. Then activities will be restored so you can set them up as you wish.17:29
sheytanBluesKaj: to prevent from misbehaviour of KDE stuff17:29
sheytanalready deleted them17:29
sheytanso no big deal17:29
sheytanjust as fresh install my confuse others17:29
BluesKajwell it is a big deal , those are important files17:29
sheytanBluesKaj: so I reported, now ppl can deal with it :)17:30
BluesKajyou're the one who has to deal with missing important files 17:30
sheytanwhat files do you mean?17:31
BluesKajhidden 17:31
sheytanI did a fresh install, so it's not worth anything for me :)17:31
sheytanI configure everything from scratch17:31
BluesKajok , nm17:31
sheytanjust keep my privat stuff on /home17:31
* BluesKaj shrugs and wanders off17:32
mparilloI am up to three physical laptops and one VM that the Xenial boots straight to the live session (which I prefer) and only one that boots to the try / install dialog.20:03
JavaBeansame for me mparillo, only my "ancient" netbook (first gen intel atom) has the try/install dialog20:05
mparilloMine is an Acer One. With only 1GB and an Atom, so I wonder if it is timing related.20:11
mparilloThat was the one that 'worked'20:12
mparilloAs I said, I prefer the live session, as I use it live more than I install.20:12
JavaBeani install to usb 3.0 128g thumbdrives... i am not weird20:19
mparilloSo many use cases.20:23

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