[00:44] <keithzg> valorie: It's definitely *supposed* to be about baloo. (In the end I just used balooctl to stop the indexing . . . although it still seems to be chewing up CPU cycles even though it's now reporting "idle").
[00:45] <keithzg> Weird that the kcm has gone missing.
[00:48] <valorie> hmmm, strange
[00:48] <valorie> I wonder why apt-cache doesn't found that
[01:21] <keithzg> valorie: "dpkg -L kinfocenter | grep fileindex" seems to show that the rest of the fileindexermonitor KCM is . . . maybe there? Hmm. Judging by https://quickgit.kde.org/?p=kinfocenter.git it's certainly from the kinfocenter git repo, at least, so I would've thought it'd be packaged with kinfocenter.
 any devs here?
 this is not a website bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kubuntu-website/+bug/1573860
 No.
 is it a known issue?
 Change the bug to mysql?
 The mysql change has not been a smooth transition. So kinda yeah. Assign it to them and I am sure they will kick it back if our problem.
 ok
 thank you
 Not at home, or near laptop to look at bug
 you helped me even like this
 you rule/rock
[09:36] <clivejo> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5F-1cuBfSm0
 is snap just an Ubuntu thing?
 or is it cross distros?
[11:38] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[12:42] <Sick_Rimmit> Hi Freinds, this is XChat on my Ubuntu Tablet, with Kbd and Mouse..
[12:42] <Sick_Rimmit> It's pretty cool
[12:42]  * Sick_Rimmit Grins like a Cheshire cat
 Nice!
 /jealous
[13:12] <soee_> yofel: shouldn't plasma-pa be installed when upgrading to 16.04? One user reported that kmix was uninstalled during upgrade but plasma-pa was not added
[14:10] <mamarley> I am still using kmix for now because plasma-pa won't let you change the default audio device, and several of my computers want to display the volume of the the HDMI audio device even though that isn't normally the one I use.
[14:10] <mamarley> I hear that is fixed in the next release, though, maybe that could get staged soon? :)
[14:11] <BluesKaj> mamarley, which audio chip ?
[14:12] <mamarley> BluesKaj: Intel HDA and NVIDIA HDMI
[14:12] <ahoneybun> weird my correct audio is picked
[14:12] <ahoneybun> only when I'm messing with webcams and such
[14:15] <BluesKaj> mamarley, you can run successfully without pulseaudio with the snd-hda-intel driver , I usually purge pulseaudio and pulseaudio-utils and let alsa be the sound server ...works fine here 
[14:15] <mamarley> BluesKaj: It isn't that the sound comes out of the wrong device by default (it doesn't), plasma-pa just displays the wrong volume control.
[14:16] <mamarley> Ironically enough, however, on this particular laptop the audio *will* come out the wrong device if I disable PulseAudio, requiring lots of asoundrc incantations to fix.
[14:17] <mamarley> Also, it makes it really difficult to switch between audio outputs at all, which is why I installed PulseAudio on it in the first place back a long time ago.
[14:20] <BluesKaj> well, that's your call , mamarley , i find it easier to set up my audio outputs in vlc with alsa as the  default playback device in system settings>multimedia
[14:20] <mamarley> In VLC it is easy, but some other programs make it much more difficult.  With PulseAudio, I can switch devices on any stream at any time.
[14:21] <mamarley> (I actually used to be a PulseAudio-hater, believe it or not.)
[14:29] <BluesKaj> yeah pulse has it;s uses for simultaneous sources etc , but I have no need for them 
[14:31] <BluesKaj> anyway fwiw I thought I'd  let you know about the advanatges of the intel driver/chip over other chips thet require pulse to work because they're written to depnd on it
[14:32] <BluesKaj> depend even
[14:33] <BluesKaj> obviously pulse has a bug on 15.10 and 16.04, I've seen that hdmi default card0 setting before 
[14:43] <BluesKaj> mamarley, try using pavucontrol , i found that a handy  output tool for setting up my m-audio card 
[16:54]  * sheytan done with fresh install
[16:54] <sheytan> There are many of empty Activities called Desktop created after you clean install. Anybody can confirm?
[17:04] <BluesKaj> sheytan, clean install to a separate /  and /home setup or just / ?
[17:15] <sheytan> BluesKaj: just / but deleted all the hidden files before first run
[17:15] <sheytan> from /home/user ofc
[17:17] <ahoneybun> wow bluetooth audio is garbage
[17:19] <BluesKaj> sheytan,  why delete the hidden files ?
[17:24] <ahoneybun> mm
[17:29] <BluesKaj> sheytan, my advice would be to reinstall kubuntu-desktop and plasma-desktop. Then activities will be restored so you can set them up as you wish.
[17:29] <sheytan> BluesKaj: to prevent from misbehaviour of KDE stuff
[17:29] <sheytan> already deleted them
[17:29] <sheytan> so no big deal
[17:29] <sheytan> just as fresh install my confuse others
[17:29] <BluesKaj> well it is a big deal , those are important files
[17:30] <sheytan> BluesKaj: so I reported, now ppl can deal with it :)
[17:30] <BluesKaj> you're the one who has to deal with missing important files 
[17:31] <sheytan> what files do you mean?
[17:31] <BluesKaj> hidden 
[17:31] <sheytan> I did a fresh install, so it's not worth anything for me :)
[17:31] <sheytan> I configure everything from scratch
[17:31] <BluesKaj> ok , nm
[17:31] <sheytan> just keep my privat stuff on /home
[17:32]  * BluesKaj shrugs and wanders off
[20:03] <mparillo> I am up to three physical laptops and one VM that the Xenial boots straight to the live session (which I prefer) and only one that boots to the try / install dialog.
[20:05] <JavaBean> same for me mparillo, only my "ancient" netbook (first gen intel atom) has the try/install dialog
[20:11] <mparillo> Mine is an Acer One. With only 1GB and an Atom, so I wonder if it is timing related.
[20:12] <mparillo> That was the one that 'worked'
[20:12] <mparillo> As I said, I prefer the live session, as I use it live more than I install.
[20:19] <JavaBean> i install to usb 3.0 128g thumbdrives... i am not weird
[20:23] <mparillo> So many use cases.