[00:44] valorie: It's definitely *supposed* to be about baloo. (In the end I just used balooctl to stop the indexing . . . although it still seems to be chewing up CPU cycles even though it's now reporting "idle"). [00:45] Weird that the kcm has gone missing. [00:48] hmmm, strange [00:48] I wonder why apt-cache doesn't found that [01:21] valorie: "dpkg -L kinfocenter | grep fileindex" seems to show that the rest of the fileindexermonitor KCM is . . . maybe there? Hmm. Judging by https://quickgit.kde.org/?p=kinfocenter.git it's certainly from the kinfocenter git repo, at least, so I would've thought it'd be packaged with kinfocenter. [01:27] <@ovidiuflorin>: any devs here? [01:27] <@ovidiuflorin>: this is not a website bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kubuntu-website/+bug/1573860 [01:27] Launchpad bug 1573860 in Kubuntu Website "upgrade from 15.10 to 16.04 failed" [Undecided,New] [01:28] <@sgclark2>: No. [01:28] <@ovidiuflorin>: is it a known issue? [01:28] <@sgclark2>: Change the bug to mysql? [01:30] <@sgclark2>: The mysql change has not been a smooth transition. So kinda yeah. Assign it to them and I am sure they will kick it back if our problem. [01:30] <@ovidiuflorin>: ok [01:30] <@ovidiuflorin>: thank you [01:30] <@sgclark2>: Not at home, or near laptop to look at bug [01:32] <@ovidiuflorin>: you helped me even like this [01:32] <@ovidiuflorin>: you rule/rock === mamarley is now known as Guest69438 === mamarley_ is now known as mamarley [09:36] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5F-1cuBfSm0 [10:35] <@ovidiuflorin>: is snap just an Ubuntu thing? [10:35] <@ovidiuflorin>: or is it cross distros? [11:38] Hi folks [12:42] Hi Freinds, this is XChat on my Ubuntu Tablet, with Kbd and Mouse.. [12:42] It's pretty cool [12:42] * Sick_Rimmit Grins like a Cheshire cat [12:49] <@sgclark2>: Nice! [12:49] <@sgclark2>: /jealous [13:12] yofel: shouldn't plasma-pa be installed when upgrading to 16.04? One user reported that kmix was uninstalled during upgrade but plasma-pa was not added [14:10] I am still using kmix for now because plasma-pa won't let you change the default audio device, and several of my computers want to display the volume of the the HDMI audio device even though that isn't normally the one I use. [14:10] I hear that is fixed in the next release, though, maybe that could get staged soon? :) [14:11] mamarley, which audio chip ? [14:12] BluesKaj: Intel HDA and NVIDIA HDMI [14:12] weird my correct audio is picked [14:12] only when I'm messing with webcams and such [14:15] mamarley, you can run successfully without pulseaudio with the snd-hda-intel driver , I usually purge pulseaudio and pulseaudio-utils and let alsa be the sound server ...works fine here [14:15] BluesKaj: It isn't that the sound comes out of the wrong device by default (it doesn't), plasma-pa just displays the wrong volume control. [14:16] Ironically enough, however, on this particular laptop the audio *will* come out the wrong device if I disable PulseAudio, requiring lots of asoundrc incantations to fix. [14:17] Also, it makes it really difficult to switch between audio outputs at all, which is why I installed PulseAudio on it in the first place back a long time ago. [14:20] well, that's your call , mamarley , i find it easier to set up my audio outputs in vlc with alsa as the default playback device in system settings>multimedia [14:20] In VLC it is easy, but some other programs make it much more difficult. With PulseAudio, I can switch devices on any stream at any time. [14:21] (I actually used to be a PulseAudio-hater, believe it or not.) [14:29] yeah pulse has it;s uses for simultaneous sources etc , but I have no need for them [14:31] anyway fwiw I thought I'd let you know about the advanatges of the intel driver/chip over other chips thet require pulse to work because they're written to depnd on it [14:32] depend even [14:33] obviously pulse has a bug on 15.10 and 16.04, I've seen that hdmi default card0 setting before [14:43] mamarley, try using pavucontrol , i found that a handy output tool for setting up my m-audio card [16:54] * sheytan done with fresh install [16:54] There are many of empty Activities called Desktop created after you clean install. Anybody can confirm? [17:04] sheytan, clean install to a separate / and /home setup or just / ? [17:15] BluesKaj: just / but deleted all the hidden files before first run [17:15] from /home/user ofc [17:17] wow bluetooth audio is garbage [17:19] sheytan, why delete the hidden files ? [17:24] mm [17:29] sheytan, my advice would be to reinstall kubuntu-desktop and plasma-desktop. Then activities will be restored so you can set them up as you wish. [17:29] BluesKaj: to prevent from misbehaviour of KDE stuff [17:29] already deleted them [17:29] so no big deal [17:29] just as fresh install my confuse others [17:29] well it is a big deal , those are important files [17:30] BluesKaj: so I reported, now ppl can deal with it :) [17:30] you're the one who has to deal with missing important files [17:31] what files do you mean? [17:31] hidden [17:31] I did a fresh install, so it's not worth anything for me :) [17:31] I configure everything from scratch [17:31] ok , nm [17:31] just keep my privat stuff on /home [17:32] * BluesKaj shrugs and wanders off [20:03] I am up to three physical laptops and one VM that the Xenial boots straight to the live session (which I prefer) and only one that boots to the try / install dialog. [20:05] same for me mparillo, only my "ancient" netbook (first gen intel atom) has the try/install dialog [20:11] Mine is an Acer One. With only 1GB and an Atom, so I wonder if it is timing related. [20:12] That was the one that 'worked' [20:12] As I said, I prefer the live session, as I use it live more than I install. [20:19] i install to usb 3.0 128g thumbdrives... i am not weird [20:23] So many use cases.