| AriMartti | Kamilion: VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82Q33 Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02) | 13:30 |
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| AriMartti | That was one HP which had same problem as someone other from that channel had | 13:31 |
| AriMartti | intalling fine when straightforward install lubuntu 16.04 without any errors but then system didn't boot actually | 13:32 |
| AriMartti | only some weird 454335 / 15032902 files checked from /dev/sda2 or something | 13:32 |
| AriMartti | and then cursor of death | 13:32 |
| AriMartti | blinking underscore maybe 2 hours or something | 13:33 |
| AriMartti | then ctrl+alt+del boots computer | 13:33 |
| AriMartti | live system from lubuntu 16.04 installation media won't boot too | 13:34 |
| AriMartti | VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82Q35 Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02) | 13:35 |
| AriMartti | that one was from Fujitsu-Siemens | 13:35 |
| Kiwikaki | AriMartti, I can confirm this | 14:03 |
| Kiwikaki | I have the same errors | 14:03 |
| AriMartti | Kiwikaki: intel problems? | 14:03 |
| AriMartti | Kiwikaki: what is your GPU listed by lspci? | 14:03 |
| Kiwikaki | Maybe. I have an old EeePC with Intel Atom, 1 GB of RAM. A fresh install does not boot, blinking cursor all the time. Live mode does not boot. Then I installed 15.10 again and upgraded to 16.10. Works fine now but cursor of death still exists | 14:05 |
| Kiwikaki | 16.04* sorry | 14:05 |
| AriMartti | https://p.kapsi.fi/?a65e72a0ec6e31dc#VzUM6ZtVWHrd3dfNXT3xQXtyByv2eg1VH6oEbELxA+Q= | 14:07 |
| AriMartti | there is full lspci in two different vendors machine | 14:07 |
| Kiwikaki | lspci says Intel Corp. Mobile 945GSE Express Integrated Grafics Controller. | 14:09 |
| Kiwikaki | pretty old ^^ | 14:09 |
| Kiwikaki | But yeah, exactly the same bug. Including "AriMartti> only some weird 454335 / 15032902 files checked from /dev/sda2 or something" | 14:10 |
| AriMartti | those numbes are completely fuzzed | 14:10 |
| phil42 | i am wondering if it is your bios that is causing the problem | 14:11 |
| AriMartti | Computers are later installed with lubuntu 14.04 LTS and given out | 14:11 |
| Kiwikaki | phil42: I don't know. 15.10 runs with no errors. | 14:11 |
| AriMartti | phil42: very weird if it's bios problem because computers in three different vendors had behaviour like that | 14:12 |
| Kiwikaki | And now, with upgrade from 15.10 to 16.04, no errors. Clean install does not boot. | 14:12 |
| Kiwikaki | AriMartti: Is there a report on launchpad? | 14:13 |
| AriMartti | no | 14:13 |
| AriMartti | tried google if there is anyone in internet with same chipset having that problem | 14:13 |
| AriMartti | cannot confirm that xorg driver had dropped support | 14:14 |
| AriMartti | I think that hardware is simply too old for lubuntu 16.04 LTS :D | 14:15 |
| Kiwikaki | Hmm. But why does it run with upgrade from 15.10? | 14:16 |
| Kiwikaki | Did you try live mode too? | 14:16 |
| AriMartti | yes | 14:16 |
| Kiwikaki | Did it boot? | 14:16 |
| AriMartti | boot without "quiet splash" and got GPU error | 14:17 |
| Kiwikaki | Ahh, ok. | 14:17 |
| AriMartti | and Light Desktop Manager won't boot eror | 14:17 |
| AriMartti | error | 14:17 |
| AriMartti | console driver works well, xorg driver not | 14:17 |
| AriMartti | Kiwikaki: F6 in boot menu allows you edit the boot line | 14:19 |
| AriMartti | using installation media | 14:19 |
| Kiwikaki | I have not played with that | 14:19 |
| Kiwikaki | But it's good to read that I'm not alone with this :) | 14:20 |
| phil42 | i had a little bit of this when i installed 16.04 too | 14:21 |
| phil42 | with old nvidia | 14:22 |
| phil42 | is it just lubuntu? not the other flavors | 14:23 |
| AriMartti | phil42: didn't try other official 16.04 LTS live disks | 14:24 |
| AriMartti | and those computers are given away from our hands | 14:24 |
| AriMartti | oh, those installations were done by i386 installation media | 14:28 |
| Kiwikaki | yep | 14:31 |
| AriMartti | if i remember correct, the GPU error message is "No supported GPU hardware found" | 14:32 |
| AriMartti | was* | 14:32 |
| Kiwikaki | ohh :( | 14:33 |
| Kiwikaki | so its outdated | 14:33 |
| Kiwikaki | AriMartti: What do I have to do to reproduce this? Boot in live mode and then? | 14:34 |
| AriMartti | i could start CLI using ctrl+alt+F1 but didn't know any credentials | 14:34 |
| AriMartti | Kiwikaki: boot to instllation menu | 14:34 |
| AriMartti | press F6 and exit submenu | 14:35 |
| AriMartti | clear "quiet splash" from boot line appearing below instructions in down and istall menu in center of screen | 14:35 |
| AriMartti | press enter and boot live system | 14:36 |
| phil42 | or change it to noquiet nosplash | 14:36 |
| Kiwikaki | ok i'll try it. i'm creating a stick with 16.04 right now | 14:36 |
| Kiwikaki | AriMartti: do you want to report this bug and I confirm it later? | 14:37 |
| AriMartti | not sure where to report | 14:37 |
| AriMartti | and I have no launchpad account | 14:38 |
| Kiwikaki | ok, no prob. | 14:38 |
| AriMartti | Kiwikaki: after complete installation cannot get any output using any combination of grub line after reboot | 14:39 |
| AriMartti | booted holding shift and edited grub lines | 14:39 |
| phil42 | i am still wondering it the other flavors do this, it seems like lubuntu might have gotten less bug extermination than the others | 14:44 |
| Kiwikaki | phil42: maybe I'll try ubuntu later, or ubuntu mate | 14:45 |
| phil42 | i'm less that pleased with how lxpanel hides and unhides compared to 14.04 | 14:46 |
| phil42 | less than | 14:46 |
| Kiwikaki | AriMartti: I tried to boot in live mode but there is no error for me. Blinking cursor with lots of green "ok" above. Last three: OK - Reached target Graphical Interface. OK - Started Stop unreadahead data collection 45s after completed startup. Starting Update UTMP about system Runlevel Changes.... OK - Started Update UTMP about System Runlevel Changes. | 14:51 |
| AriMartti | ok, then we had different problem | 14:52 |
| Kiwikaki | I'm creating a Ubuntu Mate usb stick right now | 15:01 |
| Kiwikaki | *an | 15:02 |
| Kiwikaki | Ok. Ubuntu Mate live mode does work without any bugs. | 15:26 |
| swift110-phone | hey | 15:35 |
| zerothis | when upgrading to 16.04 my system froze. no virtual console even. now it won't finish booting just flickers cursor then blank screen. Virtual console will work for a split scond then it returns to flickering. I cant log in | 19:26 |
| AriMartti | try ctrl+alt+F1 | 19:27 |
| AriMartti | there may be console window | 19:27 |
| AriMartti | zerothis: ^ | 19:28 |
| AriMartti | then sudo apt install pastebinit | 19:29 |
| AriMartti | after that you can 'cat /var/log/X11.log | pastebinit' | 19:30 |
| AriMartti | i'm not 100% sure if that is correct log file name | 19:30 |
| === zerothis_ is now known as zerothis1 | ||
| zerothis1 | failed upgrade here, new nick now | 19:32 |
| AriMartti | zerothis1: got my instructions? | 19:33 |
| zerothis1 | no i did not. please repeat | 19:34 |
| === zerothis1 is now known as zerothis | ||
| AriMartti | 22:27:20 < AriMartti> try ctrl+alt+F1 | 19:34 |
| AriMartti | 22:27:57 < AriMartti> there may be console window | 19:34 |
| AriMartti | 22:29:18 < AriMartti> then sudo apt install pastebinit | 19:35 |
| AriMartti | 22:30:14 < AriMartti> after that you can 'cat /var/log/X11.log | pastebinit' | 19:35 |
| AriMartti | 22:30:32 < AriMartti> i'm not 100% sure if that is correct log file name | 19:35 |
| AriMartti | you might have to set up your network setting by hand | 19:35 |
| AriMartti | using /etc/network/interfaces | 19:36 |
| zerothis | ctrl+alt+f1 only switches for less than a second. no time to even type a single letter (cant login) | 19:36 |
| AriMartti | ugh | 19:36 |
| zerothis | ok here's something. I boot an old live CD. so how to repear/finish upgrading an existing install from live cd? | 19:42 |
| AriMartti | do you have seperate /home partition? | 19:44 |
| zerothis | no. just single user partition (then those 4 hidden ones, cache, etc) | 19:45 |
| AriMartti | do you have big enough thumbdrive or external hard drive? | 19:47 |
| AriMartti | it's best to do backups first | 19:47 |
| zerothis | well, the live cds no good. no driver for my wifi card | 19:47 |
| zerothis | unless I can fix thiss by deleting somthing :) | 19:48 |
| phillw | zerothis: live cd comes with broadcom, which is as many 'closed source' stuff as we can include. | 19:48 |
| zerothis | my live cd is very old. gave away all my newer ones :) | 19:53 |
| zerothis | well i'm choorted into my install and did dpkg --configure -a (maybe that will delete something that fixes it) | 19:54 |
| AriMartti | zerothis: do you have thumbnail drive or external hard drive big enough for backups? | 19:54 |
| zerothis | yes, I can make backups. not worried about my data | 19:54 |
| AriMartti | ok | 19:54 |
| zerothis | i have root access (obiosly) to my drive | 19:55 |
| zerothis | 'ugh, mayby not. getting alot of permission denied errors during configure | 19:59 |
| zerothis | question. when I chroot into my drive and run something, is it still using the live cd libraries to do things? | 20:00 |
| AriMartti | no | 20:00 |
| zerothis | oh. is it using live cd drivers? | 20:01 |
| AriMartti | you are using your chrooted environment | 20:01 |
| AriMartti | maybe, not sure | 20:01 |
| AriMartti | did you mounted /dev /sys and /proc ? | 20:03 |
| AriMartti | to your chrooted environment before chroot? | 20:03 |
| * Kamilion awakens | 20:04 | |
| AriMartti | good morning Kamilion | 20:04 |
| Kamilion | thanks for the report, AriMartti, intel 945s have problems. noted. | 20:04 |
| AriMartti | Kamilion: just tried to help another problematic user, this time failed upgrade | 20:05 |
| zerothis | i mounted nothing. I chrooted to /media/blablabla | 20:05 |
| Kamilion | so far as I know, that may be a problem that occured when the builds happened, there was a lot of traffic in #ubuntu-release about llvm-3.8 enabling some MMX/SSE instructions (AVX512) in the drivers | 20:05 |
| Kamilion | if it IS that bug, they were saying they'd push a stable release update to fix it | 20:06 |
| AriMartti | had to afk a while now | 20:06 |
| Kamilion | i know they said it affected intel GPUs, but I didn't catch a list of which ones, so I'm only assuming here | 20:06 |
| * AriMartti is watching FIN-USA U18 Ice Hockey World Championships semifinals | 20:07 | |
| Kamilion | I slept in all morning after last week, lol | 20:07 |
| AriMartti | time here is 11 p.m. :D | 20:08 |
| Kamilion | 'bout 1pm here | 20:10 |
| phillw | 9.10 pm here | 20:10 |
| Kamilion | o/ phill | 20:10 |
| phillw | hiyas | 20:11 |
| zerothis | ooo, just rebooted from in my chroot. all sorts of errors :) but it still rebooted. and guess what, it boots now :) finishing upgrade | 20:13 |
| Kamilion | yeah, i got paranoid doing my upgrades and dropped to a console with ctrl-alt-f2 and stopped the lightdm service before kicking off the upgrade. | 20:15 |
| zerothis | i think I'll write an app that adds Black Knight taunts to error Linux messages | 20:15 |
| ben2morrow | Hi all | 20:31 |
| ben2morrow | How many years for the LTS? I think it's 3 years isn't it ? | 20:32 |
| krytarik | ben2morrow: Yes. | 20:37 |
| ben2morrow | Thx krytarik :) | 20:40 |
| krytarik | Sure. | 20:40 |
| talpio | Hi, guys! | 20:43 |
| talpio | philipballew: hi! | 20:46 |
| krytarik | talpio: Hi. Do you have a support question? | 20:47 |
| talpio | I need how to install seahorse in Lubuntu. | 20:48 |
| glazr | can any1 tell me how to setup initrd for squashfs and loop device? | 20:50 |
| krytarik | talpio: "sudo apt-get install seahorse" is one method for that. | 20:50 |
| talpio | krytarik: thanks, friend! | 20:51 |
| krytarik | Sure. | 20:51 |
| phillw | Unit193: could you pop ngaio on a timed ban while he sorts out his connection? | 21:32 |
| phillw | wxl: can you put a timed ban on ngaio to stop the connect / disconnect while they sort things out? | 21:58 |
| wxl | phillw: i ignore all that crap. what's up? :) | 21:58 |
| phillw | well, the channel is unreadable :D ... But, meh ... I'll just /part :) | 21:59 |
| wxl | phillw: or /ignore #lubuntu joins parts quits | 21:59 |
| wxl | well, that's how irssi does it at least | 21:59 |
| phillw | and for the other 80 people? | 21:59 |
| wxl | you could use a pattern of some sort | 22:00 |
| phillw | And I thought Failbook was 'noisy' !!! | 22:00 |
| wxl | *!*@*.something.* | 22:00 |
| wxl | or whatever | 22:00 |
| wxl | all the joining and parting and quitting is just annoying anyways | 22:01 |
| wxl | if people can't say "hi" or "help me" oh well :) | 22:01 |
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