[13:30] <AriMartti> Kamilion: VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82Q33 Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
[13:31] <AriMartti> That was one HP which had same problem as someone other from that channel had
[13:32] <AriMartti> intalling fine when straightforward install lubuntu 16.04 without any errors but then system didn't boot actually
[13:32] <AriMartti> only some weird 454335 / 15032902 files checked from /dev/sda2 or something
[13:32] <AriMartti> and then cursor of death
[13:33] <AriMartti> blinking underscore maybe 2 hours or something
[13:33] <AriMartti> then ctrl+alt+del boots computer
[13:34] <AriMartti> live system from lubuntu 16.04 installation media won't boot too
[13:35] <AriMartti> VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82Q35 Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
[13:35] <AriMartti> that one was from Fujitsu-Siemens
[14:03] <Kiwikaki> AriMartti, I can confirm this
[14:03] <Kiwikaki> I have the same errors
[14:03] <AriMartti> Kiwikaki: intel problems?
[14:03] <AriMartti> Kiwikaki: what is your GPU listed by lspci?
[14:05] <Kiwikaki> Maybe. I have an old EeePC with Intel Atom, 1 GB of RAM. A fresh install does not boot, blinking cursor all the time. Live mode does not boot. Then I installed 15.10 again and upgraded to 16.10. Works fine now but cursor of death still exists
[14:05] <Kiwikaki> 16.04* sorry
[14:07] <AriMartti> https://p.kapsi.fi/?a65e72a0ec6e31dc#VzUM6ZtVWHrd3dfNXT3xQXtyByv2eg1VH6oEbELxA+Q=
[14:07] <AriMartti> there is full lspci in two different vendors machine
[14:09] <Kiwikaki> lspci says Intel Corp. Mobile 945GSE Express Integrated Grafics Controller.
[14:09] <Kiwikaki> pretty old ^^
[14:10] <Kiwikaki> But yeah, exactly the same bug. Including "AriMartti> only some weird 454335 / 15032902 files checked from /dev/sda2 or something"
[14:10] <AriMartti> those numbes are completely fuzzed
[14:11] <phil42> i am wondering if it is your bios that is causing the problem
[14:11] <AriMartti> Computers are later installed with lubuntu 14.04 LTS and given out
[14:11] <Kiwikaki> phil42: I don't know. 15.10 runs with no errors.
[14:12] <AriMartti> phil42: very weird if it's bios problem because computers in three different vendors had behaviour like that
[14:12] <Kiwikaki> And now, with upgrade from 15.10 to 16.04, no errors. Clean install does not boot.
[14:13] <Kiwikaki> AriMartti: Is there a report on launchpad?
[14:13] <AriMartti> no
[14:13] <AriMartti> tried google if there is anyone in internet with same chipset having that problem
[14:14] <AriMartti> cannot confirm that xorg driver had dropped support
[14:15] <AriMartti> I think that hardware is simply too old for lubuntu 16.04 LTS :D
[14:16] <Kiwikaki> Hmm. But why does it run with upgrade from 15.10?
[14:16] <Kiwikaki> Did you try live mode too?
[14:16] <AriMartti> yes
[14:16] <Kiwikaki> Did it boot?
[14:17] <AriMartti> boot without "quiet splash" and got GPU error
[14:17] <Kiwikaki> Ahh, ok.
[14:17] <AriMartti> and Light Desktop Manager won't boot eror
[14:17] <AriMartti> error
[14:17] <AriMartti> console driver works well, xorg driver not
[14:19] <AriMartti> Kiwikaki: F6 in boot menu allows you edit the boot line
[14:19] <AriMartti> using installation media
[14:19] <Kiwikaki> I have not played with that
[14:20] <Kiwikaki> But it's good to read that I'm not alone with this :)
[14:21] <phil42> i had a little bit of this when i installed 16.04 too
[14:22] <phil42> with old nvidia
[14:23] <phil42> is it just lubuntu? not the other flavors
[14:24] <AriMartti> phil42: didn't try other official 16.04 LTS live disks
[14:24] <AriMartti> and those computers are given away from our hands
[14:28] <AriMartti> oh, those installations were done by i386 installation media
[14:31] <Kiwikaki> yep
[14:32] <AriMartti> if i remember correct, the GPU error message is "No supported GPU hardware found"
[14:32] <AriMartti> was*
[14:33] <Kiwikaki> ohh :(
[14:33] <Kiwikaki> so its outdated
[14:34] <Kiwikaki> AriMartti: What do I have to do to reproduce this? Boot in live mode and then?
[14:34] <AriMartti> i could start CLI using ctrl+alt+F1 but didn't know any credentials
[14:34] <AriMartti> Kiwikaki: boot to instllation menu
[14:35] <AriMartti> press F6 and exit submenu
[14:35] <AriMartti> clear "quiet splash" from boot line appearing below instructions in down and istall menu in center of screen
[14:36] <AriMartti> press enter and boot live system
[14:36] <phil42> or change it to noquiet nosplash
[14:36] <Kiwikaki> ok i'll try it. i'm creating a stick with 16.04 right now
[14:37] <Kiwikaki> AriMartti: do you want to report this bug and I confirm it later?
[14:37] <AriMartti> not sure where to report
[14:38] <AriMartti> and I have no launchpad account
[14:38] <Kiwikaki> ok, no prob.
[14:39] <AriMartti> Kiwikaki: after complete installation cannot get any output using any combination of grub line after reboot
[14:39] <AriMartti> booted holding shift and edited grub lines
[14:44] <phil42> i am still wondering it the other flavors do this,   it seems like lubuntu might have gotten less bug extermination than the others
[14:45] <Kiwikaki> phil42: maybe I'll try ubuntu later, or ubuntu mate
[14:46] <phil42> i'm less that pleased with how lxpanel hides and unhides compared to 14.04
[14:46] <phil42> less than
[14:51] <Kiwikaki> AriMartti: I tried to boot in live mode but there is no error for me. Blinking cursor with lots of green "ok" above. Last three: OK - Reached target Graphical Interface. OK - Started Stop unreadahead data collection 45s after completed startup. Starting Update UTMP about system Runlevel Changes.... OK - Started Update UTMP about System Runlevel Changes.
[14:52] <AriMartti> ok, then we had different problem
[15:01] <Kiwikaki> I'm creating a Ubuntu Mate usb stick right now
[15:02] <Kiwikaki> *an
[15:26] <Kiwikaki> Ok. Ubuntu Mate live mode does work without any bugs.
[15:35] <swift110-phone> hey
[19:26] <zerothis> when upgrading to 16.04 my system froze. no virtual console even. now it won't finish booting just flickers cursor then blank screen. Virtual console will work for a split scond then it returns to flickering. I cant log in
[19:27] <AriMartti> try ctrl+alt+F1
[19:27] <AriMartti> there may be console window
[19:28] <AriMartti> zerothis: ^
[19:29] <AriMartti> then sudo apt install pastebinit
[19:30] <AriMartti> after that you can 'cat /var/log/X11.log | pastebinit'
[19:30] <AriMartti> i'm not 100% sure if that is correct log file name
[19:32] <zerothis1> failed upgrade here, new nick now
[19:33] <AriMartti> zerothis1: got my instructions?
[19:34] <zerothis1> no i did not. please repeat
[19:34] <AriMartti> 22:27:20 < AriMartti> try ctrl+alt+F1
[19:34] <AriMartti> 22:27:57 < AriMartti> there may be console window
[19:35] <AriMartti> 22:29:18 < AriMartti> then sudo apt install pastebinit
[19:35] <AriMartti> 22:30:14 < AriMartti> after that you can 'cat /var/log/X11.log | pastebinit'
[19:35] <AriMartti> 22:30:32 < AriMartti> i'm not 100% sure if that is correct log file name
[19:35] <AriMartti> you might have to set up your network setting by hand
[19:36] <AriMartti> using /etc/network/interfaces
[19:36] <zerothis> ctrl+alt+f1 only switches for less than a second. no time to even type a single letter (cant login)
[19:36] <AriMartti> ugh
[19:42] <zerothis> ok here's something. I boot an old live CD. so how to repear/finish upgrading an existing install from live cd?
[19:44] <AriMartti> do you have seperate /home partition?
[19:45] <zerothis> no. just single user partition (then those 4 hidden ones, cache, etc)
[19:47] <AriMartti> do you have big enough thumbdrive or external hard drive?
[19:47] <AriMartti> it's best to do backups first
[19:47] <zerothis> well, the live cds no good. no driver for my wifi card
[19:48] <zerothis> unless I can fix thiss by deleting somthing :)
[19:48] <phillw> zerothis: live cd comes with broadcom, which is as many 'closed source' stuff as we can include.
[19:53] <zerothis> my live cd is very old. gave away all my newer ones :)
[19:54] <zerothis> well i'm choorted into my install and did dpkg --configure -a (maybe that will delete something that fixes it)
[19:54] <AriMartti> zerothis: do you have thumbnail drive or external hard drive big enough for backups?
[19:54] <zerothis> yes, I can make backups. not worried about my data
[19:54] <AriMartti> ok
[19:55] <zerothis> i have root access (obiosly) to my drive
[19:59] <zerothis> 'ugh, mayby not. getting alot of permission denied errors during configure
[20:00] <zerothis> question. when I chroot into my drive and run something, is it still using the live cd libraries to do things?
[20:00] <AriMartti> no
[20:01] <zerothis> oh. is it using live cd drivers?
[20:01] <AriMartti> you are using your chrooted environment
[20:01] <AriMartti> maybe, not sure
[20:03] <AriMartti> did you mounted /dev /sys and /proc ?
[20:03] <AriMartti> to your chrooted environment before chroot?
[20:04]  * Kamilion awakens
[20:04] <AriMartti> good morning Kamilion
[20:04] <Kamilion> thanks for the report, AriMartti, intel 945s have problems. noted.
[20:05] <AriMartti> Kamilion: just tried to help another problematic user, this time failed upgrade
[20:05] <zerothis> i mounted nothing. I chrooted to /media/blablabla
[20:05] <Kamilion> so far as I know, that may be a problem that occured when the builds happened, there was a lot of traffic in #ubuntu-release about llvm-3.8 enabling some MMX/SSE instructions (AVX512) in the drivers
[20:06] <Kamilion> if it IS that bug, they were saying they'd push a stable release update to fix it
[20:06] <AriMartti> had to afk a while now
[20:06] <Kamilion> i know they said it affected intel GPUs, but I didn't catch a list of which ones, so I'm only assuming here
[20:07]  * AriMartti is watching FIN-USA U18 Ice Hockey World Championships semifinals
[20:07] <Kamilion> I slept in all morning after last week, lol
[20:08] <AriMartti> time here is 11 p.m. :D
[20:10] <Kamilion> 'bout 1pm here
[20:10] <phillw> 9.10 pm here
[20:10] <Kamilion> o/ phill
[20:11] <phillw> hiyas
[20:13] <zerothis> ooo, just rebooted from in my chroot. all sorts of errors :) but it still rebooted. and guess what, it boots now :) finishing upgrade
[20:15] <Kamilion> yeah, i got paranoid doing my upgrades and dropped to a console with ctrl-alt-f2 and stopped the lightdm service before kicking off the upgrade.
[20:15] <zerothis> i think I'll write an app that adds Black Knight taunts to error Linux messages
[20:31] <ben2morrow> Hi all
[20:32] <ben2morrow> How many years for the LTS? I think it's 3 years isn't it ?
[20:37] <krytarik> ben2morrow: Yes.
[20:40] <ben2morrow> Thx krytarik :)
[20:40] <krytarik> Sure.
[20:43] <talpio> Hi, guys!
[20:46] <talpio> philipballew: hi!
[20:47] <krytarik> talpio: Hi.  Do you have a support question?
[20:48] <talpio> I need how to install seahorse in Lubuntu.
[20:50] <glazr> can any1 tell me how to setup initrd for squashfs and loop device?
[20:50] <krytarik> talpio: "sudo apt-get install seahorse" is one method for that.
[20:51] <talpio> krytarik: thanks, friend!
[20:51] <krytarik> Sure.
[21:32] <phillw> Unit193: could you pop ngaio on a timed ban while he sorts out his connection?
[21:58] <phillw> wxl: can you put a timed ban on ngaio to stop the connect / disconnect while they sort things out?
[21:58] <wxl> phillw: i ignore all that crap. what's up? :)
[21:59] <phillw> well, the channel is unreadable :D ... But, meh ... I'll just /part :)
[21:59] <wxl> phillw: or /ignore #lubuntu joins parts quits
[21:59] <wxl> well, that's how irssi does it at least
[21:59] <phillw> and for the other 80 people?
[22:00] <wxl> you could use a pattern of some sort
[22:00] <phillw> And I thought Failbook was 'noisy' !!!
[22:00] <wxl> *!*@*.something.*
[22:00] <wxl> or whatever
[22:01] <wxl> all the joining and parting and quitting is just annoying anyways
[22:01] <wxl> if people can't say "hi" or "help me" oh well :)