[13:30] Kamilion: VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82Q33 Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02) [13:31] That was one HP which had same problem as someone other from that channel had [13:32] intalling fine when straightforward install lubuntu 16.04 without any errors but then system didn't boot actually [13:32] only some weird 454335 / 15032902 files checked from /dev/sda2 or something [13:32] and then cursor of death [13:33] blinking underscore maybe 2 hours or something [13:33] then ctrl+alt+del boots computer [13:34] live system from lubuntu 16.04 installation media won't boot too [13:35] VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82Q35 Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02) [13:35] that one was from Fujitsu-Siemens [14:03] AriMartti, I can confirm this [14:03] I have the same errors [14:03] Kiwikaki: intel problems? [14:03] Kiwikaki: what is your GPU listed by lspci? [14:05] Maybe. I have an old EeePC with Intel Atom, 1 GB of RAM. A fresh install does not boot, blinking cursor all the time. Live mode does not boot. Then I installed 15.10 again and upgraded to 16.10. Works fine now but cursor of death still exists [14:05] 16.04* sorry [14:07] https://p.kapsi.fi/?a65e72a0ec6e31dc#VzUM6ZtVWHrd3dfNXT3xQXtyByv2eg1VH6oEbELxA+Q= [14:07] there is full lspci in two different vendors machine [14:09] lspci says Intel Corp. Mobile 945GSE Express Integrated Grafics Controller. [14:09] pretty old ^^ [14:10] But yeah, exactly the same bug. Including "AriMartti> only some weird 454335 / 15032902 files checked from /dev/sda2 or something" [14:10] those numbes are completely fuzzed [14:11] i am wondering if it is your bios that is causing the problem [14:11] Computers are later installed with lubuntu 14.04 LTS and given out [14:11] phil42: I don't know. 15.10 runs with no errors. [14:12] phil42: very weird if it's bios problem because computers in three different vendors had behaviour like that [14:12] And now, with upgrade from 15.10 to 16.04, no errors. Clean install does not boot. [14:13] AriMartti: Is there a report on launchpad? [14:13] no [14:13] tried google if there is anyone in internet with same chipset having that problem [14:14] cannot confirm that xorg driver had dropped support [14:15] I think that hardware is simply too old for lubuntu 16.04 LTS :D [14:16] Hmm. But why does it run with upgrade from 15.10? [14:16] Did you try live mode too? [14:16] yes [14:16] Did it boot? [14:17] boot without "quiet splash" and got GPU error [14:17] Ahh, ok. [14:17] and Light Desktop Manager won't boot eror [14:17] error [14:17] console driver works well, xorg driver not [14:19] Kiwikaki: F6 in boot menu allows you edit the boot line [14:19] using installation media [14:19] I have not played with that [14:20] But it's good to read that I'm not alone with this :) [14:21] i had a little bit of this when i installed 16.04 too [14:22] with old nvidia [14:23] is it just lubuntu? not the other flavors [14:24] phil42: didn't try other official 16.04 LTS live disks [14:24] and those computers are given away from our hands [14:28] oh, those installations were done by i386 installation media [14:31] yep [14:32] if i remember correct, the GPU error message is "No supported GPU hardware found" [14:32] was* [14:33] ohh :( [14:33] so its outdated [14:34] AriMartti: What do I have to do to reproduce this? Boot in live mode and then? [14:34] i could start CLI using ctrl+alt+F1 but didn't know any credentials [14:34] Kiwikaki: boot to instllation menu [14:35] press F6 and exit submenu [14:35] clear "quiet splash" from boot line appearing below instructions in down and istall menu in center of screen [14:36] press enter and boot live system [14:36] or change it to noquiet nosplash [14:36] ok i'll try it. i'm creating a stick with 16.04 right now [14:37] AriMartti: do you want to report this bug and I confirm it later? [14:37] not sure where to report [14:38] and I have no launchpad account [14:38] ok, no prob. [14:39] Kiwikaki: after complete installation cannot get any output using any combination of grub line after reboot [14:39] booted holding shift and edited grub lines [14:44] i am still wondering it the other flavors do this, it seems like lubuntu might have gotten less bug extermination than the others [14:45] phil42: maybe I'll try ubuntu later, or ubuntu mate [14:46] i'm less that pleased with how lxpanel hides and unhides compared to 14.04 [14:46] less than [14:51] AriMartti: I tried to boot in live mode but there is no error for me. Blinking cursor with lots of green "ok" above. Last three: OK - Reached target Graphical Interface. OK - Started Stop unreadahead data collection 45s after completed startup. Starting Update UTMP about system Runlevel Changes.... OK - Started Update UTMP about System Runlevel Changes. [14:52] ok, then we had different problem [15:01] I'm creating a Ubuntu Mate usb stick right now [15:02] *an [15:26] Ok. Ubuntu Mate live mode does work without any bugs. [15:35] hey [19:26] when upgrading to 16.04 my system froze. no virtual console even. now it won't finish booting just flickers cursor then blank screen. Virtual console will work for a split scond then it returns to flickering. I cant log in [19:27] try ctrl+alt+F1 [19:27] there may be console window [19:28] zerothis: ^ [19:29] then sudo apt install pastebinit [19:30] after that you can 'cat /var/log/X11.log | pastebinit' [19:30] i'm not 100% sure if that is correct log file name === zerothis_ is now known as zerothis1 [19:32] failed upgrade here, new nick now [19:33] zerothis1: got my instructions? [19:34] no i did not. please repeat === zerothis1 is now known as zerothis [19:34] 22:27:20 < AriMartti> try ctrl+alt+F1 [19:34] 22:27:57 < AriMartti> there may be console window [19:35] 22:29:18 < AriMartti> then sudo apt install pastebinit [19:35] 22:30:14 < AriMartti> after that you can 'cat /var/log/X11.log | pastebinit' [19:35] 22:30:32 < AriMartti> i'm not 100% sure if that is correct log file name [19:35] you might have to set up your network setting by hand [19:36] using /etc/network/interfaces [19:36] ctrl+alt+f1 only switches for less than a second. no time to even type a single letter (cant login) [19:36] ugh [19:42] ok here's something. I boot an old live CD. so how to repear/finish upgrading an existing install from live cd? [19:44] do you have seperate /home partition? [19:45] no. just single user partition (then those 4 hidden ones, cache, etc) [19:47] do you have big enough thumbdrive or external hard drive? [19:47] it's best to do backups first [19:47] well, the live cds no good. no driver for my wifi card [19:48] unless I can fix thiss by deleting somthing :) [19:48] zerothis: live cd comes with broadcom, which is as many 'closed source' stuff as we can include. [19:53] my live cd is very old. gave away all my newer ones :) [19:54] well i'm choorted into my install and did dpkg --configure -a (maybe that will delete something that fixes it) [19:54] zerothis: do you have thumbnail drive or external hard drive big enough for backups? [19:54] yes, I can make backups. not worried about my data [19:54] ok [19:55] i have root access (obiosly) to my drive [19:59] 'ugh, mayby not. getting alot of permission denied errors during configure [20:00] question. when I chroot into my drive and run something, is it still using the live cd libraries to do things? [20:00] no [20:01] oh. is it using live cd drivers? [20:01] you are using your chrooted environment [20:01] maybe, not sure [20:03] did you mounted /dev /sys and /proc ? [20:03] to your chrooted environment before chroot? [20:04] * Kamilion awakens [20:04] good morning Kamilion [20:04] thanks for the report, AriMartti, intel 945s have problems. noted. [20:05] Kamilion: just tried to help another problematic user, this time failed upgrade [20:05] i mounted nothing. I chrooted to /media/blablabla [20:05] so far as I know, that may be a problem that occured when the builds happened, there was a lot of traffic in #ubuntu-release about llvm-3.8 enabling some MMX/SSE instructions (AVX512) in the drivers [20:06] if it IS that bug, they were saying they'd push a stable release update to fix it [20:06] had to afk a while now [20:06] i know they said it affected intel GPUs, but I didn't catch a list of which ones, so I'm only assuming here [20:07] * AriMartti is watching FIN-USA U18 Ice Hockey World Championships semifinals [20:07] I slept in all morning after last week, lol [20:08] time here is 11 p.m. :D [20:10] 'bout 1pm here [20:10] 9.10 pm here [20:10] o/ phill [20:11] hiyas [20:13] ooo, just rebooted from in my chroot. all sorts of errors :) but it still rebooted. and guess what, it boots now :) finishing upgrade [20:15] yeah, i got paranoid doing my upgrades and dropped to a console with ctrl-alt-f2 and stopped the lightdm service before kicking off the upgrade. [20:15] i think I'll write an app that adds Black Knight taunts to error Linux messages [20:31] Hi all [20:32] How many years for the LTS? I think it's 3 years isn't it ? [20:37] ben2morrow: Yes. [20:40] Thx krytarik :) [20:40] Sure. [20:43] Hi, guys! [20:46] philipballew: hi! [20:47] talpio: Hi. Do you have a support question? [20:48] I need how to install seahorse in Lubuntu. [20:50] can any1 tell me how to setup initrd for squashfs and loop device? [20:50] talpio: "sudo apt-get install seahorse" is one method for that. [20:51] krytarik: thanks, friend! [20:51] Sure. [21:32] Unit193: could you pop ngaio on a timed ban while he sorts out his connection? [21:58] wxl: can you put a timed ban on ngaio to stop the connect / disconnect while they sort things out? [21:58] phillw: i ignore all that crap. what's up? :) [21:59] well, the channel is unreadable :D ... But, meh ... I'll just /part :) [21:59] phillw: or /ignore #lubuntu joins parts quits [21:59] well, that's how irssi does it at least [21:59] and for the other 80 people? [22:00] you could use a pattern of some sort [22:00] And I thought Failbook was 'noisy' !!! [22:00] *!*@*.something.* [22:00] or whatever [22:01] all the joining and parting and quitting is just annoying anyways [22:01] if people can't say "hi" or "help me" oh well :)