[05:46] <snadge> can i remotely update my pc at work via console / ssh?
[05:46] <snadge> im aware you can just use update-manager -c
[05:46] <snadge> then there's also the old school way of .. updating sources.list and just doing an apt-get update ; apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:27] <deraffenarsch> IS IT OUT!!!!!!!!!!
[08:33] <flocculant> not yet - late October sometime
[09:15] <Ian_Corne> two days of no updatss :(
[09:24] <deraffenarsch> why
[09:24] <deraffenarsch> ???
[09:24] <deraffenarsch> two days no updates?
[09:35] <Ian_Corne> because it's been released :p
[10:06] <Ian_Corne> is there a special channel for unity8?
[13:02] <nedstark> http://www.infoworld.com/article/3060246/security/ubuntu-snap-doesnt-have-the-security-issue-x11-does.html
[13:02] <nedstark> X11 is insecure when used with Snap applications according to this
[13:22] <daed> nedstark: hey
[13:22] <nedstark> hello
[13:23] <daed> nedstark: using gnome3 natively now... all thanks to you
[13:23] <daed> absolutely superior to unity :)
[13:23] <daed> no 2-monitor issues
[13:24] <nedstark> daed: i used to have screen tearing until i switched to gnome 3 and its derivative cinnamon (from a ppa).
[13:24] <daed> nedstark: i had extreme screen tearing in chrome/firefox in xfce
[13:25] <daed> no issues in gnome3
[13:25] <daed> i spent like 2 hours tweaking chrome settings, rendering options/flags/etc... nothing helped
[13:25] <daed> tweaked xfce's compositor
[13:25] <daed> ultimately it just sucked
[13:25] <nedstark> some say you can fix it switching to compton in xfce, but it persisted for me
[13:26] <daed> nedstark: best part is expose style functionality exists in gnome3 by default with a hot corner
[13:26] <daed> i literally didn't have to tweak anything
[13:27] <daed> though i'm still going through the tweak tool
[13:27] <nedstark> once you tweak it, it's pretty good, assuming you don't prefer a task bar
[13:27] <daed> i do not prefer a task bar, i prefer hot corner window expose
[13:28] <nedstark> cinnamon has the same kind of hot corner, except desktop search and app menu are accessed through the menu button at the bottom
[13:28] <daed> i also prefer launching things through launchy or alfred type apps
[13:28] <nedstark> its a fork of gnome 3
[13:28] <daed> alt-space
[13:28] <daed> then i can type stuff in
[13:28] <daed> on demand
[13:28] <daed> launch/search/etc
[13:29] <nedstark> the gnome search can look for a lot more than apps too
[13:30] <daed> where's gnome search?
[13:30] <nedstark> when you use the hot corner, it appears in the top center of the screen, you just start typing into it
[13:30] <daed> oh that
[13:30] <daed> i wonder if there's a way to configure to trigger it with alt-space
[13:32] <nedstark> probably, they might know on #ubuntu-gnome or #gnome
[13:33] <nedstark> you can access search using the super (windows) key
[13:35] <daed> hmm, doesn't work for me
[13:40] <nedstark> https://wiki.gnome.org/Gnome3CheatSheet
[13:41] <nedstark> i'm not sure why that key wouldn't work, maybe the gnome guys would know