| Kilos | morning all | 07:45 |
|---|---|---|
| pavlushka | Morning every one! | 08:12 |
| mazal | Morning | 08:47 |
| Kilos | hi mazal | 08:48 |
| mazal | Now my mobile is dead also :( | 08:48 |
| Kilos | ai! | 08:48 |
| mazal | Only 2 weeks in and alrwady problems | 08:48 |
| mazal | This country &^$$ | 08:49 |
| mazal | On the Afrihost sim now | 08:49 |
| magespawn | hello the room | 08:49 |
| Kilos | hi magespawn | 08:49 |
| mazal | Morning magespawn | 08:51 |
| magespawn | how is the afrihost mazal ? | 08:52 |
| mazal | Expensive | 08:53 |
| mazal | But have no choice , telkom mobile dead also today | 08:53 |
| Kilos | ai! | 08:54 |
| mazal | So tired of all this &*^%&* | 08:54 |
| Kilos | isnt your adsl working again? | 08:54 |
| mazal | Anyway , what could cause Kubu refusing to remove a usb device ? | 08:54 |
| Kilos | when its busy | 08:55 |
| mazal | Put usb stick in , copied data to HDD , copy finished. Try to remove , hangs with "removing device" | 08:55 |
| mazal | Think it was still busiy copying even though it showed copy is finished ? | 08:56 |
| Kilos | ai! | 08:56 |
| Kilos | yes | 08:56 |
| mazal | lame | 08:56 |
| Kilos | you in too much of a hurry | 08:56 |
| mazal | When it shows finished it should be finished | 08:57 |
| Kilos | doesnt it show on that message thing that shows when net connected | 08:58 |
| Kilos | i see progress bars | 08:58 |
| mazal | That's my point , the progress bar was long finished and gone | 08:58 |
| Kilos | ah | 08:58 |
| Kilos | file a bug report | 08:59 |
| mazal | Have frequent crashes also | 08:59 |
| mazal | Those "internal error occured" messages | 09:00 |
| mazal | And different apps crashing every now and then ( of which I don't recognize the names) | 09:01 |
| Kilos | you on 16.04 right? | 09:01 |
| mazal | Yep | 09:01 |
| Kilos | file bug reports | 09:01 |
| mazal | Stability not so good at the moment | 09:01 |
| Kilos | that will make it get improved | 09:01 |
| mazal | gtg for now , dunno how long I have to stretch this 1gig for | 09:09 |
| Kilos | ok | 09:09 |
| mazal | Maybe I'm lucky and Telscum is busy upgrading the tower to LTE lol | 09:09 |
| Kilos | lol | 09:10 |
| mazal | bye | 09:10 |
| Kilos | later | 09:10 |
| magespawn | brb | 09:29 |
| magespawn | back | 09:32 |
| Kilos | wb magespawn | 09:33 |
| inetpro | ai! #thisguy | 09:33 |
| inetpro | good evening | 09:34 |
| Kilos | hi inetpro | 09:34 |
| Kilos | which guy | 09:34 |
| gremble | Good morning everyone. I hope you are all still well | 09:41 |
| gremble | :) | 09:41 |
| Kilos | hi gremble wb | 09:41 |
| gremble | How are you Kilos? | 09:41 |
| Kilos | good ty and you? | 09:41 |
| gremble | I am well thank you | 09:41 |
| inetpro | Kilos: this guy who blames the country when his mobile goes down | 09:59 |
| gremble | If you are with CellC you only have yourself to blame if your mobile goes down :P | 10:00 |
| magespawn | gremble: strangely, i have very few problems with mine, touch wood | 10:01 |
| inetpro | gremble: long time no see, welcome back here sir | 10:01 |
| gremble | Hey inetpro :) | 10:01 |
| gremble | magespawn, I bought myself out of a contract with them so I can keep my number and move away from them | 10:02 |
| gremble | I live in Pretoria and I don't have signal inside my own house with them | 10:02 |
| inetpro | where did you move to now gremble? | 10:03 |
| magespawn | i am in Hluhluwe, and it runs pretty much as expected in bush, but that is with all networks | 10:03 |
| inetpro | I mean what mobile SP? | 10:03 |
| inetpro | or are you in luck with ADSL even? | 10:03 |
| gremble | I am with VodaCom. Other than their shitty practises with regards to VIoP, its alright | 10:03 |
| gremble | For internet I have adsl | 10:04 |
| gremble | with Mweb unfortunately :P | 10:04 |
| inetpro | yeah, VC is not good at all but with regards to coverage still beat everyone else hands down | 10:04 |
| gremble | CellC has a "feature" now where they charge you phonecall rates for voip :P | 10:05 |
| Kilos | im happy with telkom mobile | 10:06 |
| inetpro | wow, that is just ridiculous | 10:06 |
| inetpro | time for FTTH rollouts to speed up | 10:19 |
| magespawn | gremble: i saw that, was not too sure about it | 10:21 |
| inetpro | I think we need more people who can do the splicing job | 10:24 |
| inetpro | or where is the bottleneck in this whole industry? | 10:24 |
| inetpro | Symmetria: come now, you should know the answer to that | 10:25 |
| Symmetria | heh | 12:14 |
| Symmetria | the bottleneck is not the splicing | 12:14 |
| Symmetria | the bottleneck is in the civil works and in the permiting | 12:14 |
| Symmetria | (and often the funding) | 12:14 |
| inetpro | Symmetria: so there are enough guys in the industry who can do the splicing if a city is really serious about FTTH? | 12:52 |
| inetpro | or rather, where does the buck stop even, is it not just Telkom anyway? | 12:53 |
| inetpro | or Neotel | 12:53 |
| inetpro | who do we call in order to get fiber to a house, school or business? | 12:56 |
| inetpro | sad that there is still no competition in this industry | 12:56 |
| Langjan | Hi Kilos | 13:58 |
| Langjan | you ok? | 13:58 |
| Kilos | hi Langjan | 13:58 |
| Kilos | im ok ty and you? | 13:58 |
| Langjan | Fine thks. started the drive it wants a password | 13:59 |
| Kilos | oh thats easy | 13:59 |
| Langjan | you put "Tannie" in? | 13:59 |
| Kilos | is that in tannie | 13:59 |
| Langjan | yes | 13:59 |
| Kilos | i am still on there as well | 13:59 |
| Langjan | so I see | 13:59 |
| Kilos | ok tannie passwd is 12345678 you can change it to something she will remember | 14:00 |
| Kilos | and i gave her admin rights so you should be able to remove me completely | 14:00 |
| Kilos | i was bang to try | 14:01 |
| Kilos | hehe | 14:01 |
| Langjan | Thks but I'm gonna battle to help her with this interface | 14:01 |
| Kilos | you can install what you like on there | 14:02 |
| Kilos | that is a light 14.04 | 14:02 |
| Kilos | ubuntu using openbox | 14:02 |
| Langjan | Ok, can it not run unity? | 14:03 |
| Kilos | i havent got any 32 bit isos , i gave my lekker mod pc to ian and the second drive in there had many isos | 14:03 |
| Kilos | you can install | 14:04 |
| Kilos | um | 14:04 |
| Kilos | ubuntu-desktop | 14:04 |
| Kilos | it uses same repos | 14:04 |
| Langjan | is that in terminal? | 14:05 |
| Kilos | i basically wanted to see if it books first time | 14:05 |
| Kilos | or in synaptic | 14:05 |
| Langjan | booted fine | 14:05 |
| Kilos | look in then thing bottom left | 14:05 |
| Kilos | then in system | 14:05 |
| Kilos | you will find synaptic | 14:06 |
| Kilos | you will see terminal icon on the bottom panel | 14:06 |
| Kilos | sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop | 14:07 |
| Langjan | now youre losing me terminal in synaptic? | 14:08 |
| Kilos | no man | 14:08 |
| Kilos | if you have synaptic type in the search ubuntu-desktop | 14:09 |
| Langjan | not there, but am running in terminal | 14:10 |
| Kilos | then run sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop | 14:10 |
| Kilos | hopefully it runs unity ok | 14:11 |
| Langjan | ek het mos gese hy loop al... | 14:11 |
| Langjan | ok lets see | 14:11 |
| Kilos | maybeyou lucky, openbox is much lighter | 14:11 |
| Langjan | stormers 24 reds 22 | 14:14 |
| Kilos | depending on ram spead it should run unity but will be slow | 14:14 |
| Kilos | yeah im watching as well | 14:14 |
| Langjan | ram is 1 GB should be ok | 14:14 |
| Kilos | tara woke me to watch | 14:14 |
| Kilos | eish | 14:14 |
| Kilos | 1g is min | 14:14 |
| Langjan | eish my line is running at 1Mbps, just doing a check and reset | 14:16 |
| Kilos | 12.04 had unity 2d but i cant rememer if 14.04 can | 14:17 |
| Langjan | well I would say if 12.04 had it it should be on 14.04 | 14:18 |
| Langjan | its done 75% running slow | 14:18 |
| Kilos | nope | 14:19 |
| Kilos | they dropped it i think | 14:19 |
| Kilos | thats why i build a faster pc | 14:19 |
| Langjan | oh ok. Here goes stormers lead down the drain | 14:19 |
| Kilos | if its too slow you can use gnome session fallback i think | 14:21 |
| Kilos | http://www.howtogeek.com/189912/how-to-install-the-gnome-classic-desktop-in-ubuntu-14.04/ | 14:22 |
| Langjan | thks | 14:24 |
| Kilos | ldet me know what happens each step | 14:24 |
| Kilos | let as well | 14:24 |
| Langjan | ok thks | 14:24 |
| Kilos | that drive has been going a year with bento trouble free | 14:25 |
| Langjan | unpacking 50% | 14:25 |
| Langjan | seems to be running very nicely | 14:25 |
| Langjan | I got her network cable 55 metres for R150 | 14:29 |
| Kilos | yay | 14:29 |
| Langjan | no joints | 14:29 |
| Kilos | is 55 enough | 14:29 |
| Langjan | yes | 14:29 |
| Kilos | good | 14:29 |
| Langjan | tested and working fine | 14:30 |
| Kilos | lekker | 14:30 |
| Kilos | nice when things work | 14:30 |
| Langjan | pipes and hardware another R130 and the switch R170 delivered, on its way | 14:31 |
| Kilos | sjoe | 14:31 |
| Langjan | Well it will be paid off in about 5 months | 14:31 |
| Kilos | good thats ok then | 14:32 |
| Langjan | savings from mobile data | 14:32 |
| Kilos | yeah | 14:32 |
| Langjan | and much more stable | 14:32 |
| Langjan | ok Kilos download completed what next? | 14:35 |
| Kilos | it should install | 14:35 |
| mazal | Hi | 14:35 |
| Kilos | hi mazal | 14:35 |
| Langjan | hi mazal | 14:36 |
| mazal | Got another niggle , network system icon is hidden | 14:36 |
| mazal | http://picpaste.com/icon1-YH0YjRRr.jpeg | 14:36 |
| mazal | http://picpaste.com/icon2-PMzX4CmY.jpeg | 14:36 |
| Kilos | Langjan didnt it install | 14:36 |
| mazal | Where it's supposed to be ( where mouse pointer is in pic ) is just blank | 14:36 |
| Langjan | no | 14:37 |
| mazal | This only happens when I'm on 3g dongle , on lan it is there | 14:37 |
| Langjan | but maybe I must see if we come right with this interface | 14:37 |
| Kilos | Langjan sudo aptitude reinstall ubuntu-desktop | 14:37 |
| Langjan | ok | 14:37 |
| Kilos | then on rebooting you should be able to choose ubuntu | 14:38 |
| Kilos | i havent tried mixing them | 14:38 |
| Kilos | mazal whats wrongf | 14:39 |
| mazal | Network system icon blank/missing/hidden | 14:40 |
| mazal | See the pics | 14:40 |
| Kilos | oh nm-applet | 14:40 |
| Kilos | i donr see them lekker | 14:40 |
| mazal | Only when dongle is in use | 14:40 |
| mazal | It should be signal bars | 14:40 |
| Kilos | when dongle is in open it and add other connection | 14:41 |
| mazal | It's working fine | 14:41 |
| mazal | Just the system icon that isn't | 14:41 |
| Langjan | Kilos, where do you switch this thing off? | 14:41 |
| Langjan | sudo reboot? | 14:42 |
| mazal | When I click on the blank space where it should be it open the connection info | 14:42 |
| Kilos | left bottom corner | 14:42 |
| Langjan | no | 14:42 |
| Kilos | the choose logoff | 14:42 |
| Kilos | or sudo reboot works ya | 14:42 |
| mazal | Langjan, is that Kubuntu | 14:42 |
| Kilos | the logoff opens a windows to shutdown reboot etc | 14:42 |
| Kilos | no mazal bento | 14:43 |
| mazal | oh | 14:43 |
| mazal | Looks like my inet has signal again , lemme test | 14:44 |
| Langjan | runs thro a lot of libraries on boot | 14:44 |
| Kilos | hopefully on grub menu you can choose | 14:44 |
| Langjan | I think I must install 14.04 | 14:47 |
| Kilos | whats happening | 14:47 |
| Langjan | nothing | 14:47 |
| mazal | Now on lan the icon is back | 14:47 |
| Langjan | just rebooted same | 14:47 |
| mazal | So it's the mobile icon that's missing/blank | 14:47 |
| Kilos | nowhere to choose ubuntu | 14:47 |
| Kilos | ok install 14.04 | 14:47 |
| Langjan | no not in grub, only recovery mode option | 14:48 |
| Kilos | save that page bento | 14:48 |
| Kilos | no | 14:48 |
| Kilos | where you put password | 14:48 |
| Kilos | small thing you tick to choose | 14:48 |
| Kilos | on the desktop is a file with bento links | 14:48 |
| magespawn | home time, chat later all | 14:51 |
| Kilos | cheers magespawn | 14:51 |
| Kilos | Langjan whats happening | 14:56 |
| Kilos | just save the bento links then install 14.04 | 14:56 |
| Langjan | banto links? | 14:59 |
| Langjan | bento | 14:59 |
| Kilos | there is a file on the desktop named bento | 14:59 |
| Kilos | all the links to get bento are there | 14:59 |
| Kilos | just save that on a stick | 14:59 |
| Langjan | dunno its not running now | 14:59 |
| Langjan | not booting from cd | 15:00 |
| Langjan | will get back to bento | 15:00 |
| Kilos | oh my | 15:00 |
| Langjan | strange thing, it saya boot from cd then stays there, when I eject cd it boots directly on bento | 15:01 |
| Kilos | you have to wait long its a slow machine | 15:01 |
| Kilos | needs to load info to ram first | 15:01 |
| Langjan | no bento links file that I can see | 15:03 |
| Langjan | on desktop? | 15:03 |
| Kilos | oh my | 15:03 |
| Kilos | ok | 15:03 |
| Kilos | i might have it saved somewhwree | 15:03 |
| Kilos | np | 15:04 |
| Kilos | try boot from 12.04 cd | 15:04 |
| Langjan | picks up immediately on 12.04 | 15:05 |
| Kilos | lighter | 15:05 |
| Kilos | install 12.04 | 15:06 |
| Langjan | ok maybe better for now | 15:06 |
| Kilos | its supported till 2017 | 15:06 |
| Langjan | thats fine | 15:06 |
| Langjan | were back to the cd/dvd prob | 15:07 |
| Langjan | this is cd writer | 15:07 |
| Kilos | yes | 15:07 |
| Langjan | I forgot | 15:07 |
| Kilos | 12.04 is on cd | 15:07 |
| Langjan | yip | 15:07 |
| Kilos | 14.04 is on dvd | 15:07 |
| Kilos | you want to borrow my email addy | 15:08 |
| Kilos | the pro doesnt use it anymore , he got too clever | 15:09 |
| Kilos | and you can look around for more ram for that machine in the future | 15:11 |
| Langjan | will do | 15:13 |
| Langjan | but they scarce | 15:13 |
| Kilos | i know , i only found at pc repair shops | 15:13 |
| Langjan | same installer failure as before, perhaps motherboard prob? | 15:14 |
| Kilos | eish | 15:14 |
| Kilos | run bento, just work it out | 15:14 |
| Kilos | it takes some looking through but everything is there | 15:15 |
| Langjan | ok | 15:15 |
| Kilos | opera is the browser i think | 15:16 |
| Kilos | now i dont have a bento here to look at to help you | 15:16 |
| Kilos | ai! | 15:17 |
| Langjan | I think install has damaged bento, not booting | 15:18 |
| Kilos | oh my | 15:18 |
| Kilos | not at all | 15:18 |
| Langjan | no, says boot from cd then cursor keeps blinking | 15:19 |
| Kilos | ai! | 15:19 |
| Kilos | reboot again | 15:19 |
| Kilos | hopefully we can get to prompt | 15:20 |
| Langjan | same result | 15:21 |
| Kilos | change cd for dvd and try | 15:21 |
| Langjan | verifying dmi pool data, the boot from cd, then cursor prompt | 15:21 |
| Kilos | didnt we suspect the cdrom? | 15:22 |
| Langjan | good idea | 15:22 |
| Langjan | yes | 15:22 |
| Langjan | but windows installled from cdrom | 15:22 |
| Kilos | ai! | 15:22 |
| Kilos | why cant things go smooth | 15:23 |
| Kilos | i should have installed 12.04 on it here | 15:23 |
| Kilos | you could even do that on your pc | 15:24 |
| Langjan | retrying | 15:24 |
| Langjan | yes thats an option | 15:24 |
| Langjan | let me try once more then will use my pc if it does not work | 15:25 |
| Kilos | ok | 15:25 |
| Langjan | it does not detect bento any more, has obviously deleted it | 15:28 |
| Langjan | detects 12.04 | 15:28 |
| Langjan | ok shutting down to install hdd will get back soon | 15:30 |
| Kilos | ok | 15:31 |
| susan | Hi Kilos | 16:35 |
| susan | Just checking in from tannie to say install went well, obviously there a hardware prob with her machine - I installed 12.04 on the 160 GB drive that we tried first | 16:42 |
| susan | you sleeping Kilos ? | 16:42 |
| Kilos | hi susan | 16:55 |
| Kilos | was eating sorry | 16:55 |
| Kilos | tannie sue | 16:56 |
| susan | hi Kilos ja moet eet neh | 16:56 |
| Kilos | im gald to hear that all good | 16:57 |
| susan | yes so not hdd prob after all | 16:57 |
| Kilos | ja lee pens nie gesond nie | 16:57 |
| Kilos | lekker | 16:57 |
| susan | gotta go eat myself now chat in 20 mins | 16:57 |
| Kilos | ek bly vir julle | 16:57 |
| Kilos | enjoy | 16:57 |
| magespawn | good evening | 17:01 |
| Kilos | hi magespawn | 17:01 |
| magespawn | so it looks like i am coming up to jhb | 17:04 |
| Kilos | you got a job up there? | 17:05 |
| magespawn | yup | 17:05 |
| Kilos | yay | 17:05 |
| Kilos | not a nice place but pay better normally | 17:05 |
| magespawn | now to find affordable accommodation | 17:06 |
| magespawn | there is a bit of a pay increase intially, but that is a probation period subject to a review in three months | 17:08 |
| Kilos | ok | 17:12 |
| Kilos | so when are you moving magespawn | 17:12 |
| * Kilos hates movin | 17:12 | |
| Kilos | g | 17:12 |
| Kilos | massive job | 17:12 |
| magespawn | it will just be me intially wife and daughter staying down here | 17:15 |
| Kilos | ai! | 17:15 |
| magespawn | somewhere betwenn now and the 22nd of next month | 17:15 |
| magespawn | between two | 17:15 |
| magespawn | or too | 17:16 |
| Kilos | good luck lad | 17:16 |
| Kilos | keep in touch | 17:16 |
| magespawn | of course, might actually be able to organise a few get togethers etc | 17:17 |
| Kilos | cool | 17:17 |
| magespawn | or at least attend a few | 17:18 |
| superfly | Kilos: http://imgur.com/drykS8j | 17:26 |
| Kilos | beautiful hey superfly | 17:27 |
| susan_ | Hi Kilos Looks like some colder weather on the way | 17:28 |
| Kilos | yeah | 17:29 |
| susan_ | ok just about ready to check out and install the hdd in the old man | 17:30 |
| Kilos | lets hope | 17:30 |
| susan_ | You expect probs? | 17:30 |
| Kilos | nope hopefully | 17:31 |
| Kilos | didnt we try this before | 17:31 |
| susan_ | justfinalsing some updates | 17:31 |
| susan_ | no | 17:31 |
| Kilos | good | 17:31 |
| susan_ | so now I have spare hdd | 17:32 |
| Kilos | enjoy | 17:32 |
| Kilos | practise using bento on it | 17:32 |
| susan_ | Baie dankie, will think of you when I need it... | 17:32 |
| Kilos | works better and more stable than 12.04 | 17:32 |
| susan_ | bento? | 17:32 |
| Kilos | that working system you broke | 17:33 |
| susan_ | ok if I find the time (unlikely) | 17:33 |
| Kilos | lol | 17:33 |
| susan_ | eish | 17:33 |
| susan_ | lmga sorry! | 17:33 |
| Kilos | it works well on older machines | 17:33 |
| susan_ | will try to remember that | 17:34 |
| susan_ | I used to like the gnome environment but now spoilt by unity, hated it passionately until I really tried | 17:35 |
| Kilos | hahaha | 17:35 |
| susan_ | lmga | 17:35 |
| susan_ | whats happening visa-wise | 17:35 |
| susan_ | ? | 17:35 |
| Kilos | didnt i tell you | 17:35 |
| susan_ | nothing further? | 17:36 |
| Kilos | they foned and wanted the clearance in pdf so they could print it | 17:36 |
| susan_ | yes thats the latest you told me, its a disgrace! | 17:36 |
| Kilos | but they asked for a scanned copy | 17:36 |
| Kilos | then they cant convert it them selves | 17:37 |
| gremble | You can scan to a pdf | 17:37 |
| susan_ | so nothing since? | 17:37 |
| Kilos | libreoffice writer converts easy | 17:37 |
| Kilos | nope | 17:37 |
| susan_ | yes or just scan to pdf | 17:37 |
| Kilos | im sure they will print them then put in the post bag to aus | 17:38 |
| Kilos | i dunno bout scan things | 17:38 |
| susan_ | snailmail? | 17:38 |
| Kilos | but will know next time | 17:38 |
| Kilos | no the govt courier things they use between govts | 17:38 |
| susan_ | well your scanner app should show the pdf or jpg or whtever options | 17:38 |
| Kilos | like from this embassy to their hg | 17:39 |
| Kilos | dont make me think about scanners now | 17:39 |
| Kilos | hq | 17:39 |
| susan_ | maybe you dont qualify to go oz, you need a criminal record to go there...lmga | 17:39 |
| Kilos | i have one | 17:40 |
| susan_ | hq? | 17:40 |
| Kilos | maybe its too old | 17:40 |
| Kilos | headquarters | 17:40 |
| susan_ | ok | 17:40 |
| susan_ | my HP is 10 years old, still perfect | 17:40 |
| Kilos | ai! | 17:41 |
| Kilos | maybe my record is too old man | 17:41 |
| Kilos | they might want me to do something wrong every 6 months | 17:41 |
| susan_ | maybe you too old man | 17:42 |
| Kilos | lol | 17:42 |
| susan_ | lmga | 17:42 |
| susan_ | die ooms | 17:42 |
| Kilos | put that drive in that machine now lets see | 17:43 |
| Kilos | hopefully not too many hardware diffs | 17:43 |
| susan_ | another 5 mins updates | 17:44 |
| susan_ | where do you select mirrors in 12.04? | 17:47 |
| Kilos | update manager | 17:48 |
| Kilos | or you install synaptic and choose there | 17:48 |
| Kilos | it should be using our za mirror | 17:48 |
| Kilos | why you wanna change | 17:48 |
| Kilos | if it aint broke dont fix it | 17:49 |
| susan_ | you told me to use neulogy | 17:49 |
| Kilos | you dont have to man | 17:49 |
| Kilos | at times mirrors go down or take long upgrading then you change | 17:50 |
| Kilos | if you in a hurry | 17:50 |
| susan_ | If I dont do what you tell me I get s.at on... | 17:50 |
| Kilos | ai! | 17:50 |
| Kilos | kry jy nie skaam nie | 17:50 |
| susan_ | nee wat hoekom? | 17:52 |
| susan_ | eks 'n gehoorsame outjie | 17:52 |
| Kilos | jaja | 17:52 |
| Kilos | why you susan with a tail | 17:53 |
| Kilos | susan used already | 17:53 |
| inetpro | Maaz: tell mazal your "blank" icon may just be a theme issue that may get resolved with an update, icon probably white on white background... change theme to see other colors | 17:53 |
| Maaz | inetpro: Got it, I'll tell mazal on freenode | 17:53 |
| susan_ | ask irc | 17:53 |
| susan_ | I see other one s also there | 17:53 |
| Kilos | not many | 17:53 |
| susan_ | so I broke it | 17:53 |
| Kilos | broke what? | 17:54 |
| susan_ | I broke susan and put a tail to it | 17:54 |
| Kilos | oh ya 2 of you here | 17:54 |
| pavlushka | inetpro: I am facing that in xubuntu as well | 17:54 |
| susan_ | how to change nick? tried, doesn't work | 17:55 |
| Kilos | it wont you are here twice | 17:55 |
| Kilos | one will retire now now | 17:55 |
| inetpro | susan_: /nick MyNewNick | 17:55 |
| susan_ | hi inetpro | 17:56 |
| pavlushka | inetpro: dont you need to kill the ghost? | 17:56 |
| pavlushka | Hi inetpro ! | 17:56 |
| inetpro | oops... but you may have to wait until the old one times out | 17:56 |
| susan_ | I'm secret service Langjan | 17:56 |
| Kilos | inetpro keep up man | 17:57 |
| inetpro | or... use the ghost command to force it out | 17:57 |
| Kilos | susan_ you on your pc on 12.04 drive | 17:57 |
| Kilos | ? | 17:57 |
| susan_ | yes | 17:57 |
| inetpro | ok, lyk my ek is te stadig vir julle, sorry ooms | 17:57 |
| Kilos | then why bother changing nick | 17:58 |
| susan_ | reg so seuntjie | 17:58 |
| Kilos | lol | 17:58 |
| susan_ | because you asked why the tail | 17:58 |
| Kilos | you taking the drive to other pc soon | 17:58 |
| inetpro | oops... en die ander ene is nog 'n tannie ook nog | 17:58 |
| Kilos | did you install hexchat or xchat already | 17:59 |
| Kilos | hahaha | 17:59 |
| inetpro | goeie dag oom Jan :-) | 17:59 |
| susan_ | me? where you think I'm chatting from... | 17:59 |
| inetpro | of is dit al aand? | 17:59 |
| Kilos | the 12.04 drive? | 17:59 |
| susan_ | hi inetpro weer 'n keer...lmga | 18:00 |
| susan_ | yes Kilos | 18:00 |
| susan_ | Dis aand op die dag van 23 | 18:00 |
| inetpro | ek sal maar eerder weer gaan wegkruip dat julle kan aagaan, anders lag julle te veel | 18:00 |
| Kilos | you installed xchat before updating even | 18:00 |
| susan_ | so? | 18:01 |
| Kilos | it will make the drive boot to grub prompt when you change to another pc | 18:01 |
| susan_ | gotta report to the boss | 18:01 |
| susan_ | what does that mean? | 18:02 |
| Kilos | it means you will have to start all over again | 18:02 |
| Kilos | just joking | 18:02 |
| Kilos | hopefully it works | 18:02 |
| Kilos | inetpro you may drop a few words of wisdom here | 18:03 |
| Kilos | susan_ thats a long 5 mins | 18:03 |
| susan_ | yes, still running | 18:04 |
| Kilos | sjoe | 18:04 |
| inetpro | Kilos: you expect words of wisdom from a young one amongst wise men? no, no, no... | 18:04 |
| Kilos | hahaha you the only one here with a bit of brains | 18:05 |
| susan_ | I suppose fresh 12.04 is very outdated re updates by now? | 18:05 |
| Kilos | everyone else has lots | 18:05 |
| inetpro | ai! | 18:05 |
| Kilos | very seldom needs updates | 18:05 |
| Kilos | skuus boetie | 18:06 |
| Kilos | ek terg net | 18:06 |
| inetpro | haha, ek weet :-) | 18:06 |
| Kilos | when you say that to someone face to face | 18:06 |
| Kilos | they actually swell with pride | 18:06 |
| * inetpro continues with other work in the background | 18:06 | |
| Kilos | then the second remarks pops their bubble | 18:07 |
| susan | dis beter | 18:09 |
| Kilos | wat is beter | 18:09 |
| susan | susan | 18:09 |
| Kilos | aha | 18:09 |
| susan | stert is weg ek het die ekstra een toegemaak | 18:09 |
| Kilos | mooi | 18:10 |
| Kilos | jy peuter te veel terwyl jy instaleer | 18:10 |
| susan | ou mans hou van peuter, dis hoekom die jong bokkies van hulle hou | 18:10 |
| mazal | Time for a break | 18:12 |
| Maaz | mazal: By the way, inetpro on freenode told me "tell mazal your "blank" icon may just be a theme issue that may get resolved with an update, icon probably white on white background... change theme to see other colors" 19 minutes and 38 seconds ago | 18:12 |
| Kilos | sjoe | 18:13 |
| mazal | inetpro, copy that. I already tried finding a way to make the daskbar darker but failed. I will keep digging in the theme settings thanx | 18:13 |
| susan | Wie is mazal? | 18:16 |
| mazal | Oi , changed the theme and everything crashes | 18:16 |
| Kilos | hy maak pcs reg by die tronk | 18:16 |
| susan | related to Maaz? | 18:16 |
| Kilos | nee man | 18:16 |
| Kilos | haha | 18:16 |
| Kilos | maaz breek nie goed nie | 18:16 |
| Maaz | Kilos: What? | 18:16 |
| Kilos | mazal breek als | 18:17 |
| mazal | hey | 18:17 |
| susan | breek uit die tronk | 18:17 |
| mazal | Ek breek goed net op sekere dae en tye :P | 18:18 |
| mazal | Nou en dan los ek dit uit | 18:18 |
| Kilos | lol | 18:18 |
| susan | Ek breek altyd alles | 18:18 |
| susan | Kilos, weet | 18:18 |
| susan | as hy my sien is dit al wat hy vra - wat het jy gebreek... | 18:19 |
| mazal | hehehe | 18:19 |
| Kilos | one year old stable trouble free working drive an OS detroyed in 20 mins | 18:19 |
| susan | ek doen wat hy my se dan breek dit | 18:19 |
| susan | dis daai ou gnome goed wat jy mee rondneuk | 18:20 |
| Kilos | nee man | 18:20 |
| Kilos | bento is nie gnome nie | 18:20 |
| susan | watse interface was daai dan? | 18:21 |
| Kilos | openbox | 18:21 |
| susan | amper soos gnome | 18:21 |
| mazal | Ek kennie Bento nie | 18:21 |
| susan | beter so | 18:21 |
| susan | lmga | 18:21 |
| Kilos | net inetpro en ek het gekyk daarna dink ek | 18:21 |
| Kilos | n tannie van 56 in frankryk het dit gebou | 18:22 |
| susan | Dis nie 'n tannie nie, dis 'n jong dingetjie... | 18:22 |
| Kilos | haha | 18:22 |
| Kilos | vir jou ja | 18:22 |
| Kilos | die res hier moet vir haar tannie se | 18:23 |
| susan | ja en hulle soek ervaring | 18:23 |
| Kilos | hier min oor 40 hier | 18:23 |
| susan | umfaans | 18:23 |
| Kilos | yebo | 18:23 |
| mazal | Ek is draem net net oor 40 | 18:24 |
| mazal | darem* | 18:25 |
| Kilos | en pro ook | 18:25 |
| Kilos | die res is jonk | 18:25 |
| mazal | Sal nie so sê as jy na my hobbie kyk nie | 18:25 |
| susan | Dis die manne wat met die neukenaars saam grootgeword het | 18:25 |
| Kilos | ja ek stem | 18:25 |
| mazal | BTW oom , ek het gister nog 'n game gekoop hehehehe :) | 18:25 |
| Kilos | ai! | 18:25 |
| Kilos | jy is eintlik bietjie siek dink ek | 18:26 |
| susan | wats jou stiokperdjie mazal ? | 18:26 |
| mazal | Kon.....nie......weerstaan.....nie...... | 18:26 |
| mazal | Video games susan | 18:26 |
| Kilos | pc speletjies | 18:26 |
| susan | sjoe | 18:26 |
| mazal | Korreksie Kilos , video games | 18:26 |
| mazal | nie pc nie | 18:26 |
| Kilos | compulsive buyer | 18:26 |
| mazal | Ek blok myself nie in een platform in nie , het 4 verskillendes | 18:27 |
| mazal | Dit herninner my , ek het nog nie steam install op die pc nie | 18:27 |
| Kilos | sjoe susan daai ding nog besig daar | 18:27 |
| susan | al speletjie wat ek op die neukenaars speel is skaak, so nou en dan as ek tyd kry | 18:27 |
| gremble | I recently got a windows machine again so I have been dabbling in those video games as well | 18:28 |
| mazal | Ek het PS3 , PS4 , Xbox360 en pc | 18:28 |
| susan | Ja Kilos lyk my hys amper klaar | 18:28 |
| mazal | En ek oorweeg Xbox One ook | 18:28 |
| susan | mazal, dis Grieks vir my | 18:28 |
| mazal | Dis consoles | 18:28 |
| Kilos | gaming machines susan | 18:28 |
| Kilos | playstations | 18:29 |
| susan | speedy gonsoles? gonsales? | 18:29 |
| mazal | Om Kilos , at least is ek darem nou al terug op Ubuntu by die huis | 18:29 |
| Kilos | lol | 18:29 |
| Kilos | mooi | 18:29 |
| mazal | Dis darem een verbetering | 18:29 |
| susan | ok Kilos ek gaan nou weg dan sien ons wat werk | 18:29 |
| Kilos | lank genoeg gevat\ | 18:29 |
| mazal | Issie | 18:29 |
| Kilos | geluk susan | 18:29 |
| mazal | So jaar en half omtrent | 18:29 |
| susan | dankie boetie | 18:29 |
| susan | is daar genoeg speletjies op ubuntu vir jou mazal ? | 18:30 |
| mazal | Susan nie eers naastenby nie :( | 18:30 |
| Kilos | nee hy koop goed | 18:30 |
| Kilos | mazal have you tried 0ad | 18:31 |
| mazal | Dis hoekom consoles my main gaming masjiene is , Linux het te swak gaming support | 18:31 |
| mazal | Kilos, last time I checked it was still being developed and in beta | 18:31 |
| Kilos | it will be for years yet i think | 18:31 |
| Kilos | but its playable | 18:32 |
| mazal | One of those never ending stories | 18:32 |
| Kilos | same as ubuntu | 18:32 |
| Kilos | just keeps getting better | 18:32 |
| mazal | Well when I checked last week 5 of my games in my steam library has Linux support. Should install steam and check it out | 18:32 |
| mazal | Next month , when I have data again | 18:33 |
| Kilos | neelsie uses steam lots | 18:33 |
| mazal | But it's mostly the lesser Indie games. The big boys don't develop for Linux , yet | 18:33 |
| Kilos | oh ya | 18:34 |
| Kilos | you were supposed to give gaming support on that other thing | 18:34 |
| Kilos | hmm... | 18:34 |
| Kilos | slacker | 18:34 |
| Kilos | trello | 18:34 |
| mazal | Dunno why , the PS3 is proove that Linux can game. If memory serves it's OS is based on Yellow Dog Linux. ( If I remember correctly ) | 18:34 |
| mazal | I guess they feel not big enough market. | 18:35 |
| Kilos | nearly bedtime | 18:35 |
| mazal | So vroeg ? | 18:35 |
| mazal | Dis Saterdag | 18:35 |
| Kilos | yes im tired | 18:36 |
| mazal | okey | 18:36 |
| Kilos | watched 5 games of rugby today | 18:36 |
| Kilos | sweated lots | 18:36 |
| mazal | I watched 1 old one , 2007 WC final | 18:36 |
| Kilos | i watched all the supers played today | 18:36 |
| mazal | Have a few old games on disk and watch it every now and then. Don't have DSTV | 18:37 |
| Kilos | i watch on mnet sport channel | 18:37 |
| Kilos | even mnet is expensive now | 18:37 |
| Kilos | but sis hooked so i score | 18:37 |
| magespawn | right, back again | 18:39 |
| mazal | Yeah it's too much per month just for tv , but I have other reason for not having it which I will not say on family channel | 18:39 |
| Kilos | wb | 18:39 |
| mazal | Hi magespawn | 18:39 |
| Kilos | lol | 18:39 |
| * mazal plans the evening | 18:40 | |
| mazal | Game or movie | 18:40 |
| Kilos | wb susan | 18:40 |
| pavlushka- | Hi magespawn! | 18:41 |
| Kilos | you have 2 irc clients running or something | 18:41 |
| pavlushka- | Hi mazal! | 18:41 |
| mazal | Hi pavlushka- | 18:41 |
| susan | running well and looking good! | 18:41 |
| Kilos | yaya | 18:41 |
| Kilos | yay | 18:41 |
| mazal | Must be a Toyota then | 18:41 |
| magespawn | hi pavlushka- | 18:42 |
| susan | Auto Union | 18:42 |
| susan | Young uns dont even know what that is... | 18:43 |
| Kilos | yip | 18:43 |
| Kilos | we had a few | 18:43 |
| mazal | Yeah , sounds like something that is about to strike | 18:43 |
| Kilos | plywood body first | 18:43 |
| Kilos | dkw | 18:43 |
| Kilos | then 1000 station wagon | 18:44 |
| susan | yes and 1000s and 1000sp | 18:44 |
| Kilos | deutse kleine wunder | 18:44 |
| Kilos | 3/6 | 18:44 |
| susan | no launcher icon siza adjustment this side...? | 18:44 |
| susan | size | 18:45 |
| Kilos | ai! | 18:45 |
| Kilos | and it worked on your pc | 18:45 |
| susan | yes | 18:45 |
| susan | strange | 18:45 |
| Kilos | different screen too | 18:45 |
| Kilos | hardware diffs | 18:45 |
| susan | screen is fine | 18:45 |
| Kilos | type in additional in dash | 18:46 |
| susan | drivers? | 18:47 |
| Kilos | see what it says | 18:47 |
| Kilos | graphics | 18:47 |
| susan | searching | 18:47 |
| Kilos | what graphics is in there | 18:48 |
| Kilos | tell before you install | 18:48 |
| susan | How do I see that - in tweak? | 18:48 |
| Kilos | lspci | 18:49 |
| susan | in terminal? | 18:50 |
| Kilos | yip | 18:50 |
| susan | which part of output youwanna see? | 18:51 |
| Kilos | you most likely in 2d as well so many things dont work as well as 3d | 18:51 |
| Kilos | you look for graphics | 18:51 |
| Kilos | not me | 18:51 |
| Kilos | nvidia or intel | 18:51 |
| Kilos | with nvidia i can suggest but with intel im lost | 18:52 |
| Kilos | additional should show you as well | 18:52 |
| susan | vga? nothing else | 18:52 |
| Kilos | inetpro help | 18:53 |
| inetpro | wat nou? | 18:53 |
| Kilos | ai! we need a unity user with a memory back to 12.04 | 18:53 |
| Kilos | susan> no launcher icon siza adjustment this side...? | 18:54 |
| * inetpro wonders how far back he should read | 18:54 | |
| Kilos | 1 line | 18:54 |
| inetpro | doesn't make sense | 18:54 |
| Kilos | susan explain better | 18:55 |
| Kilos | maybe bottom panel size | 18:55 |
| susan | well on my machine the launcher icon size adjustment showed, on this one its gone | 18:55 |
| Kilos | graphics | 18:56 |
| * inetpro knows nothing about Unity | 18:56 | |
| susan | system settings, appearance, look | 18:56 |
| Kilos | lol | 18:56 |
| inetpro | and even less about Windows | 18:56 |
| Kilos | give him some comands to run man | 18:56 |
| Kilos | i was on unity and you helped me | 18:57 |
| inetpro | can't help, sorry | 18:57 |
| susan | Normally under "look" it gives appearance then launcher icon size adjustment | 18:57 |
| Kilos | susan sudo apt-get update | 18:57 |
| susan | ok thks inetpro | 18:57 |
| Kilos | sudo apt-get install aptitude | 18:57 |
| inetpro | don't have Unity here to check and test | 18:58 |
| inetpro | Google is your friend | 18:58 |
| Kilos | your friend | 18:58 |
| Kilos | susan you done those commands | 18:58 |
| Kilos | ?? | 18:58 |
| inetpro | oops... I forget, you may even have to use something other than Google even | 18:58 |
| susan | yes, running | 18:58 |
| susan | and upgrade? | 18:59 |
| Kilos | next will be sudo aptitude upgrade | 18:59 |
| * inetpro noticed a badly written advisory article about avoiding google.com | 18:59 | |
| Kilos | oh | 18:59 |
| inetpro | but somebody else could perhaps explain | 18:59 |
| * inetpro busy in the background | 19:00 | |
| susan | it said install and | 19:00 |
| Kilos | huh | 19:00 |
| susan | got to reboot | 19:00 |
| pavlushka- | good night guys! | 19:01 |
| Kilos | night | 19:01 |
| magespawn | inetpro: avoid google.com? | 19:03 |
| susan | ok will live with large launcher for now | 19:04 |
| inetpro | magespawn: http://www.mercurynews.com/bay-area-news/ci_29786995/google-warns-security-threat-its-own-website | 19:04 |
| Kilos | how large | 19:06 |
| inetpro | magespawn: http://www.kentucky.com/news/business/article72710997.html | 19:07 |
| Kilos | Maaz google 12.04 launcher cant size smaller | 19:07 |
| Maaz | Kilos: "How to resize the Unity launcher? - Ask Ubuntu" http://askubuntu.com/questions/18345/how-to-resize-the-unity-launcher :: "unity - Can I make the launcher Icons smaller than 32 pixels? - Ask ..." http://askubuntu.com/questions/70306/can-i-make-the-launcher-icons-smaller-than-32-pixels :: "How can I change the size of Unity 2D launcher icons? - Ask Ubuntu" | 19:07 |
| Maaz | http://askubuntu.com/questions/82395/how-can-i-change-the-size-of-unity-2d-launcher-icons :… | 19:07 |
| Kilos | ai! | 19:07 |
| Kilos | just like a female | 19:07 |
| Kilos | walk away when you wanna say something | 19:08 |
| Kilos | what did he break now | 19:10 |
| Kilos | pc froze | 19:11 |
| Kilos | Langjan what broke | 19:19 |
| Langjan | niks nie | 19:19 |
| Langjan | lmga! sorry to disappoint you | 19:19 |
| Kilos | nou hoe verdwyn jy net so | 19:19 |
| Langjan | verdwyn? Ek was nie hier nie... | 19:20 |
| Kilos | Maaz google 12.04 launcher cant size smaller | 19:20 |
| Maaz | Kilos: "How to resize the Unity launcher? - Ask Ubuntu" http://askubuntu.com/questions/18345/how-to-resize-the-unity-launcher :: "unity - Can I make the launcher Icons smaller than 32 pixels? - Ask ..." http://askubuntu.com/questions/70306/can-i-make-the-launcher-icons-smaller-than-32-pixels :: "How can I change the size of Unity 2D launcher icons? - Ask Ubuntu" | 19:20 |
| Maaz | http://askubuntu.com/questions/82395/how-can-i-change-the-size-of-unity-2d-launcher-icons :… | 19:20 |
| Kilos | susan is weg man | 19:20 |
| Langjan | Ja ek het haar weggejaag | 19:20 |
| Kilos | i think adding a graphics card there will solve the prob | 19:20 |
| Kilos | one of the above links will say how | 19:21 |
| Kilos | but large icons are good for old eyes | 19:21 |
| Langjan | icon size adjustment is complicated in 12.04, she will not notice diff and if a problem will auto-hide the launcher | 19:21 |
| Kilos | ok so may i go sleep now? | 19:22 |
| Langjan | yes thks, that old machine is running well now | 19:23 |
| Kilos | yay | 19:23 |
| Langjan | tel eers die skape | 19:23 |
| Kilos | haha | 19:23 |
| Kilos | night all. sleep tight | 19:23 |
| Kilos | ill be here tomorrow | 19:24 |
| Langjan | slaap lekker Kilos | 19:24 |
| Kilos | dankie oom en jy ook | 19:24 |
| Langjan | dankie vir al jou geduld en hulp | 19:24 |
| Kilos | ek bly dit werk | 19:24 |
| Langjan | ja ek ook | 19:24 |
| Kilos | altyd n plesier | 19:24 |
| Langjan | baie | 19:24 |
| Langjan | mooi loop | 19:24 |
| Kilos | jy ook dankie | 19:24 |
| Langjan | dankie my vriend | 19:24 |
| Kilos | anytime | 19:25 |
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