[07:45] morning all [08:12] Morning every one! [08:47] Morning [08:48] hi mazal [08:48] Now my mobile is dead also :( [08:48] ai! [08:48] Only 2 weeks in and alrwady problems [08:49] This country &^$$ [08:49] On the Afrihost sim now [08:49] hello the room [08:49] hi magespawn [08:51] Morning magespawn [08:52] how is the afrihost mazal ? [08:53] Expensive [08:53] But have no choice , telkom mobile dead also today [08:54] ai! [08:54] So tired of all this &*^%&* [08:54] isnt your adsl working again? [08:54] Anyway , what could cause Kubu refusing to remove a usb device ? [08:55] when its busy [08:55] Put usb stick in , copied data to HDD , copy finished. Try to remove , hangs with "removing device" [08:56] Think it was still busiy copying even though it showed copy is finished ? [08:56] ai! [08:56] yes [08:56] lame [08:56] you in too much of a hurry [08:57] When it shows finished it should be finished [08:58] doesnt it show on that message thing that shows when net connected [08:58] i see progress bars [08:58] That's my point , the progress bar was long finished and gone [08:58] ah [08:59] file a bug report [08:59] Have frequent crashes also [09:00] Those "internal error occured" messages [09:01] And different apps crashing every now and then ( of which I don't recognize the names) [09:01] you on 16.04 right? [09:01] Yep [09:01] file bug reports [09:01] Stability not so good at the moment [09:01] that will make it get improved [09:09] gtg for now , dunno how long I have to stretch this 1gig for [09:09] ok [09:09] Maybe I'm lucky and Telscum is busy upgrading the tower to LTE lol [09:10] lol [09:10] bye [09:10] later [09:29] brb [09:32] back [09:33] wb magespawn [09:33] ai! #thisguy [09:34] good evening [09:34] hi inetpro [09:34] which guy [09:41] Good morning everyone. I hope you are all still well [09:41] :) [09:41] hi gremble wb [09:41] How are you Kilos? [09:41] good ty and you? [09:41] I am well thank you [09:59] Kilos: this guy who blames the country when his mobile goes down [10:00] If you are with CellC you only have yourself to blame if your mobile goes down :P [10:01] gremble: strangely, i have very few problems with mine, touch wood [10:01] gremble: long time no see, welcome back here sir [10:01] Hey inetpro :) [10:02] magespawn, I bought myself out of a contract with them so I can keep my number and move away from them [10:02] I live in Pretoria and I don't have signal inside my own house with them [10:03] where did you move to now gremble? [10:03] i am in Hluhluwe, and it runs pretty much as expected in bush, but that is with all networks [10:03] I mean what mobile SP? [10:03] or are you in luck with ADSL even? [10:03] I am with VodaCom. Other than their shitty practises with regards to VIoP, its alright [10:04] For internet I have adsl [10:04] with Mweb unfortunately :P [10:04] yeah, VC is not good at all but with regards to coverage still beat everyone else hands down [10:05] CellC has a "feature" now where they charge you phonecall rates for voip :P [10:06] im happy with telkom mobile [10:06] wow, that is just ridiculous [10:19] time for FTTH rollouts to speed up [10:21] gremble: i saw that, was not too sure about it [10:24] I think we need more people who can do the splicing job [10:24] or where is the bottleneck in this whole industry? [10:25] Symmetria: come now, you should know the answer to that [12:14] heh [12:14] the bottleneck is not the splicing [12:14] the bottleneck is in the civil works and in the permiting [12:14] (and often the funding) [12:52] Symmetria: so there are enough guys in the industry who can do the splicing if a city is really serious about FTTH? [12:53] or rather, where does the buck stop even, is it not just Telkom anyway? [12:53] or Neotel [12:56] who do we call in order to get fiber to a house, school or business? [12:56] sad that there is still no competition in this industry [13:58] Hi Kilos [13:58] you ok? [13:58] hi Langjan [13:58] im ok ty and you? [13:59] Fine thks. started the drive it wants a password [13:59] oh thats easy [13:59] you put "Tannie" in? [13:59] is that in tannie [13:59] yes [13:59] i am still on there as well [13:59] so I see [14:00] ok tannie passwd is 12345678 you can change it to something she will remember [14:00] and i gave her admin rights so you should be able to remove me completely [14:01] i was bang to try [14:01] hehe [14:01] Thks but I'm gonna battle to help her with this interface [14:02] you can install what you like on there [14:02] that is a light 14.04 [14:02] ubuntu using openbox [14:03] Ok, can it not run unity? [14:03] i havent got any 32 bit isos , i gave my lekker mod pc to ian and the second drive in there had many isos [14:04] you can install [14:04] um [14:04] ubuntu-desktop [14:04] it uses same repos [14:05] is that in terminal? [14:05] i basically wanted to see if it books first time [14:05] or in synaptic [14:05] booted fine [14:05] look in then thing bottom left [14:05] then in system [14:06] you will find synaptic [14:06] you will see terminal icon on the bottom panel [14:07] sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop [14:08] now youre losing me terminal in synaptic? [14:08] no man [14:09] if you have synaptic type in the search ubuntu-desktop [14:10] not there, but am running in terminal [14:10] then run sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop [14:11] hopefully it runs unity ok [14:11] ek het mos gese hy loop al... [14:11] ok lets see [14:11] maybeyou lucky, openbox is much lighter [14:14] stormers 24 reds 22 [14:14] depending on ram spead it should run unity but will be slow [14:14] yeah im watching as well [14:14] ram is 1 GB should be ok [14:14] tara woke me to watch [14:14] eish [14:14] 1g is min [14:16] eish my line is running at 1Mbps, just doing a check and reset [14:17] 12.04 had unity 2d but i cant rememer if 14.04 can [14:18] well I would say if 12.04 had it it should be on 14.04 [14:18] its done 75% running slow [14:19] nope [14:19] they dropped it i think [14:19] thats why i build a faster pc [14:19] oh ok. Here goes stormers lead down the drain [14:21] if its too slow you can use gnome session fallback i think [14:22] http://www.howtogeek.com/189912/how-to-install-the-gnome-classic-desktop-in-ubuntu-14.04/ [14:24] thks [14:24] ldet me know what happens each step [14:24] let as well [14:24] ok thks [14:25] that drive has been going a year with bento trouble free [14:25] unpacking 50% [14:25] seems to be running very nicely [14:29] I got her network cable 55 metres for R150 [14:29] yay [14:29] no joints [14:29] is 55 enough [14:29] yes [14:29] good [14:30] tested and working fine [14:30] lekker [14:30] nice when things work [14:31] pipes and hardware another R130 and the switch R170 delivered, on its way [14:31] sjoe [14:31] Well it will be paid off in about 5 months [14:32] good thats ok then [14:32] savings from mobile data [14:32] yeah [14:32] and much more stable [14:35] ok Kilos download completed what next? [14:35] it should install [14:35] Hi [14:35] hi mazal [14:36] hi mazal [14:36] Got another niggle , network system icon is hidden [14:36] http://picpaste.com/icon1-YH0YjRRr.jpeg [14:36] http://picpaste.com/icon2-PMzX4CmY.jpeg [14:36] Langjan didnt it install [14:36] Where it's supposed to be ( where mouse pointer is in pic ) is just blank [14:37] no [14:37] This only happens when I'm on 3g dongle , on lan it is there [14:37] but maybe I must see if we come right with this interface [14:37] Langjan sudo aptitude reinstall ubuntu-desktop [14:37] ok [14:38] then on rebooting you should be able to choose ubuntu [14:38] i havent tried mixing them [14:39] mazal whats wrongf [14:40] Network system icon blank/missing/hidden [14:40] See the pics [14:40] oh nm-applet [14:40] i donr see them lekker [14:40] Only when dongle is in use [14:40] It should be signal bars [14:41] when dongle is in open it and add other connection [14:41] It's working fine [14:41] Just the system icon that isn't [14:41] Kilos, where do you switch this thing off? [14:42] sudo reboot? [14:42] When I click on the blank space where it should be it open the connection info [14:42] left bottom corner [14:42] no [14:42] the choose logoff [14:42] or sudo reboot works ya [14:42] Langjan, is that Kubuntu [14:42] the logoff opens a windows to shutdown reboot etc [14:43] no mazal bento [14:43] oh [14:44] Looks like my inet has signal again , lemme test [14:44] runs thro a lot of libraries on boot [14:44] hopefully on grub menu you can choose [14:47] I think I must install 14.04 [14:47] whats happening [14:47] nothing [14:47] Now on lan the icon is back [14:47] just rebooted same [14:47] So it's the mobile icon that's missing/blank [14:47] nowhere to choose ubuntu [14:47] ok install 14.04 [14:48] no not in grub, only recovery mode option [14:48] save that page bento [14:48] no [14:48] where you put password [14:48] small thing you tick to choose [14:48] on the desktop is a file with bento links [14:51] home time, chat later all [14:51] cheers magespawn [14:56] Langjan whats happening [14:56] just save the bento links then install 14.04 [14:59] banto links? [14:59] bento [14:59] there is a file on the desktop named bento [14:59] all the links to get bento are there [14:59] just save that on a stick [14:59] dunno its not running now [15:00] not booting from cd [15:00] will get back to bento [15:00] oh my [15:01] strange thing, it saya boot from cd then stays there, when I eject cd it boots directly on bento [15:01] you have to wait long its a slow machine [15:01] needs to load info to ram first [15:03] no bento links file that I can see [15:03] on desktop? [15:03] oh my [15:03] ok [15:03] i might have it saved somewhwree [15:04] np [15:04] try boot from 12.04 cd [15:05] picks up immediately on 12.04 [15:05] lighter [15:06] install 12.04 [15:06] ok maybe better for now [15:06] its supported till 2017 [15:06] thats fine [15:07] were back to the cd/dvd prob [15:07] this is cd writer [15:07] yes [15:07] I forgot [15:07] 12.04 is on cd [15:07] yip [15:07] 14.04 is on dvd [15:08] you want to borrow my email addy [15:09] the pro doesnt use it anymore , he got too clever [15:11] and you can look around for more ram for that machine in the future [15:13] will do [15:13] but they scarce [15:13] i know , i only found at pc repair shops [15:14] same installer failure as before, perhaps motherboard prob? [15:14] eish [15:14] run bento, just work it out [15:15] it takes some looking through but everything is there [15:15] ok [15:16] opera is the browser i think [15:16] now i dont have a bento here to look at to help you [15:17] ai! [15:18] I think install has damaged bento, not booting [15:18] oh my [15:18] not at all [15:19] no, says boot from cd then cursor keeps blinking [15:19] ai! [15:19] reboot again [15:20] hopefully we can get to prompt [15:21] same result [15:21] change cd for dvd and try [15:21] verifying dmi pool data, the boot from cd, then cursor prompt [15:22] didnt we suspect the cdrom? [15:22] good idea [15:22] yes [15:22] but windows installled from cdrom [15:22] ai! [15:23] why cant things go smooth [15:23] i should have installed 12.04 on it here [15:24] you could even do that on your pc [15:24] retrying [15:24] yes thats an option [15:25] let me try once more then will use my pc if it does not work [15:25] ok [15:28] it does not detect bento any more, has obviously deleted it [15:28] detects 12.04 [15:30] ok shutting down to install hdd will get back soon [15:31] ok [16:35] Hi Kilos [16:42] Just checking in from tannie to say install went well, obviously there a hardware prob with her machine - I installed 12.04 on the 160 GB drive that we tried first [16:42] you sleeping Kilos ? [16:55] hi susan [16:55] was eating sorry [16:56] tannie sue [16:56] hi Kilos ja moet eet neh [16:57] im gald to hear that all good [16:57] yes so not hdd prob after all [16:57] ja lee pens nie gesond nie [16:57] lekker [16:57] gotta go eat myself now chat in 20 mins [16:57] ek bly vir julle [16:57] enjoy [17:01] good evening [17:01] hi magespawn [17:04] so it looks like i am coming up to jhb [17:05] you got a job up there? [17:05] yup [17:05] yay [17:05] not a nice place but pay better normally [17:06] now to find affordable accommodation [17:08] there is a bit of a pay increase intially, but that is a probation period subject to a review in three months [17:12] ok [17:12] so when are you moving magespawn [17:12] * Kilos hates movin [17:12] g [17:12] massive job [17:15] it will just be me intially wife and daughter staying down here [17:15] ai! [17:15] somewhere betwenn now and the 22nd of next month [17:15] between two [17:16] or too [17:16] good luck lad [17:16] keep in touch [17:17] of course, might actually be able to organise a few get togethers etc [17:17] cool [17:18] or at least attend a few [17:26] Kilos: http://imgur.com/drykS8j [17:27] beautiful hey superfly [17:28] Hi Kilos Looks like some colder weather on the way [17:29] yeah [17:30] ok just about ready to check out and install the hdd in the old man [17:30] lets hope [17:30] You expect probs? [17:31] nope hopefully [17:31] didnt we try this before [17:31] justfinalsing some updates [17:31] no [17:31] good [17:32] so now I have spare hdd [17:32] enjoy [17:32] practise using bento on it [17:32] Baie dankie, will think of you when I need it... [17:32] works better and more stable than 12.04 [17:32] bento? [17:33] that working system you broke [17:33] ok if I find the time (unlikely) [17:33] lol [17:33] eish [17:33] lmga sorry! [17:33] it works well on older machines [17:34] will try to remember that [17:35] I used to like the gnome environment but now spoilt by unity, hated it passionately until I really tried [17:35] hahaha [17:35] lmga [17:35] whats happening visa-wise [17:35] ? [17:35] didnt i tell you [17:36] nothing further? [17:36] they foned and wanted the clearance in pdf so they could print it [17:36] yes thats the latest you told me, its a disgrace! [17:36] but they asked for a scanned copy [17:37] then they cant convert it them selves [17:37] You can scan to a pdf [17:37] so nothing since? [17:37] libreoffice writer converts easy [17:37] nope [17:37] yes or just scan to pdf [17:38] im sure they will print them then put in the post bag to aus [17:38] i dunno bout scan things [17:38] snailmail? [17:38] but will know next time [17:38] no the govt courier things they use between govts [17:38] well your scanner app should show the pdf or jpg or whtever options [17:39] like from this embassy to their hg [17:39] dont make me think about scanners now [17:39] hq [17:39] maybe you dont qualify to go oz, you need a criminal record to go there...lmga [17:40] i have one [17:40] hq? [17:40] maybe its too old [17:40] headquarters [17:40] ok [17:40] my HP is 10 years old, still perfect [17:41] ai! [17:41]