[00:01] <bobdobbs> I just realized something: if I do "apt-get purge mysql-server": will that delete all of my existing databases ?
[00:01] <Euvius> did your php/msql get broken after upgrading too
[00:01] <tgm4883> megaman: if you find a way, let me know
[00:01] <wyoung> Euvius: php and mysql are already broken
[00:01] <Euvius> it worked before the upgrade though
[00:02] <zen-guy> bobdobbs, it will remove everything of mysql to include dependancies and configuration files
[00:02] <Euvius> is there a way to fix it
[00:02] <megaman> tgm4883: How is it possible that this basic function is impossible?
[00:02] <megaman> sometimes i just get urge to go back to windows because of these problems
[00:03] <zen-guy> bobdobbs, i'd back up the actual data
[00:03] <bobdobbs> su
[00:03] <kepler-t> new ubuntu tablet seems pretty cool
[00:03] <tgm4883> megaman: well it is possible. I just think there are some conflicts between the proprietary nvidia drivers and the ubuntu display config
[00:04] <Euvius> bobdobbs did your mysql get broken with the upgrade
[00:04] <megaman> tgm4883: I'm using opensource amd drivers
[00:05] <bobdobbs> Euvius: I don't think so. I wasn't able to upgrade anything because of the error from initctl
[00:05] <ElAleph> Can someone help me with my printer installation?
[00:05] <ElAleph> printer drivers
[00:05] <wyoung> Euvius: not all printers are supported, cups has a good list of supported ones
[00:05] <BenderRodriguez> ElAleph, what seems to be the problem?
[00:06] <wyoung> Euvius: cups may even auto detect it
[00:06] <tgm4883> megaman: you could try messing with xrandr. It has options for setting monitors to the "rightof" and "leftof" which to me says that it can put the main monitor on the right
[00:06] <zykotick9> BenderRodriguez: re:ElAleph "19:56 < ElAleph> error: Depends: lsb (>=3.2) but it is not installable"
[00:06] <ToeSnacks> Can anyone tell me what is failing here? This my syslog output when trying to log in. https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/25VqHJQH/Login+Crash.jpg
[00:07] <wyoung> Euvius: https://www.cups.org/
[00:07] <wyoung> Euvius: It should be installed already (by default).
[00:07] <ElAleph> my printer worked nicely with Ubuntu 15.10, but now isn't with Xenial
[00:07] <Jordan_U> megaman: I don't have a multi monitor setup at the moment, but I seem to recall that being in the display preferences in gnome-control-center.
[00:07] <ElAleph> I added http://download.ebz.epson.net/dsc/op/stable/debian/ lsb3.2 main to sources list
[00:08] <ElAleph> and try to install the driver: epson-inkjet-printer-201207w
[00:08] <ElAleph> error: Depends: lsb (>=3.2) but it is not installable
[00:08] <megaman> Jordan_U: You can set launcher, but according to google Ubuntu chooses left monitor as main, and that's what's happening to me, seems really stupid
[00:08] <wyoung> Euvius: ouch
[00:08] <zykotick9> ToeSnacks: thus your "fail whale" question.  i have zero ideas...  i'm sorry - but that is kinda a funny error message <- sorry you have it htough...  good luck.
[00:09] <dbz2k> does anyone know how to go lower my laptop brightness lower the lowest isn't compared to windows 8?
[00:10] <ElAleph> I tried to download at Epson's web page, but same error
[00:10] <ToeSnacks> zykotick9: yeah that's why I asked about the whale
[00:11] <Euvius> wyoung oh sorry. ty
[00:11] <ElAleph> the printer's model is Epson L355
[00:11] <jiffe> so I just upgraded everything in my machine except my graphics cards and hard drives and when I boot I'm getting a your system is in low graphics mode error
[00:13] <Jordan_U> ToeSnacks: http://askubuntu.com/questions/662678/critical-we-failed-but-the-fail-whale-is-dead-sorry
[00:14] <MeXTuX> I can run many applications like emulators while playing music on the background (MPlayer, YouTube) without a problem but there is a specific emulator Osmose that complains if other application is playing sounds (cannot open audio device: plughw:0,0 Device or resource busy). Is there a way to fix this issue?
[00:14] <ToeSnacks> Jordan_U: thank you, do you have any ideas about the screenshot I posted?
[00:15] <pcarrier> no 16.04 for AWS users yet? :( https://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/locator/ec2/
[00:16] <jiffe> not really seeing anything too bad in dmesg, nvidia: module verification failed: signature and/or required key missing - tainting kernel but then I see NVRM: loading NVIDIA UNIX x86_64 Kernel Module  352.79  Wed Jan 13 16:17:53 PST 2016
[00:16] <BenderRodriguez> How do I check the version of the package in apt-get
[00:16] <SpaceAce> hey guys. after an apt-get upgrade my samba shares have suddenly stopped working
[00:17] <Jordan_U> ToeSnacks: No, sorry.
[00:17] <n1md4> hi.  what version of ubuntu should i install to get a minimal console only install
[00:18] <ToeSnacks> n1md4: server prpbably
[00:19] <jiffe> [   16.749282] bbswitch: failed to evaluate \_SB_.PCI0.BR3A.H000._DSM {0xA0,0xA0,0x95,0x9D,0x60,0x00,0x48,0x4D,0xB3,0x4D,0x7E,0x5F,0xEA,0x12,0x9F,0xD4} 0x102 0x0 {0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00}: AE_NOT_FOUND
[00:19] <jiffe> any idea what that is?  bbswitch seems to be associated with bumblebee
[00:21] <ToeSnacks> Is "/etc/modprobe.d is not a file" a problem or just regular log spam?
[00:22] <reisio> ToeSnacks: things that aren't problems aren't problems
[00:22] <reisio> among things that aren't problems: text
[00:22] <megaman> I have posted this question on askubuntu.com, any help is welcome: https://askubuntu.com/questions/760942/set-primary-monitor-on-16-04
[00:22] <reisio> megaman: what's the question?
[00:22] <ToeSnacks> That may be the most worthless thing anyone has ever said. Thanks for that.
[00:22] <megaman> reisio: About beeing unable to set the right monitor as primary
[00:23] <reisio> megaman: the right or the correct?
[00:23] <megaman> reisio: What do you mean by the correct?
[00:23] <megaman> reisio: It is at right for real too, not just on display settings
[00:24] <reisio> megaman: what graphics driver are you using?
[00:24] <zykotick9> n1md4: _personally_ i'd get the mini.iso install, and uncheck _almost_ everything in the Tasksel screen... but server also works...
[00:24] <megaman> reisio: Open source amd, I haven't installed anything by my self
[00:26] <zykotick9> n1md4: <sidenote> ubuntu's mini.iso is like debian's netinst, if you are familiar with that...
[00:27] <reisio> be nice if they'd stop renaming it
[00:27] <Bashing-om> BenderRodriguez: ' apt-cache show <package> ' .
[00:27] <BenderRodriguez> Bashing-om: that does not show version numbers
[00:27] <BenderRodriguez> nevermind
[00:28] <zykotick9> BenderRodriguez: "apt-cache policy FOO" show more closely what you want, but show does work...
[00:29] <ToeSnacks> BenderRodriguez: aptitude versions PACKAGENAME works
[00:29] <Bashing-om> BenderRodriguez: 'apt list ' is quicker and the more concise .
[00:29] <zykotick9> Bashing-om: +200 points!
[00:29] <zykotick9> apt ftw!
[00:29] <BenderRodriguez> Bashing-om: apt list works
[00:29] <BenderRodriguez> thanks
[00:30] <Bashing-om> zykotick9: L) linux .. many paths to an end .
[00:30] <megaman> reisio: Any idea?
[00:31] <ToeSnacks> Does org.gtk.vfs.daemon have anything to do with login?
[00:31] <reisio> megaman: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Nouveau#Dual_Head
[00:32] <ToeSnacks> I see "a connection to the bus can't be made" in journalctl
[00:32] <reisio> ToeSnacks: so what?
[00:33] <deri> test
[00:34] <ToeSnacks> reisio: so could that have anything to do with my login issues
[00:35] <n1md4> zykotick9: yeah, i tried the mini first, but there was no tasksel
[00:35] <n1md4> what the difference between the mini and server approach?
[00:35] <zykotick9> n1md4: when you run mini, and it lists what packages/tasks you want to install <- that is tasksel ?!?!
[00:36] <n1md4> zykotick9: yeah, i know, it didn't do that.
[00:36] <megaman> reisio: ehh, doesn't make sense to me
[00:36] <reisio> ToeSnacks: what login issues?
[00:36] <zykotick9> ?
[00:36] <n1md4> zykotick9: intrigued though, i'll try again
[00:37] <reisio> megaman: which bit?
[00:37] <ToeSnacks> reisio: read up in the chat
[00:37] <n1md4> zykotick9: ah, is it with expert mode?
[00:37] <megaman> reisio: I don't know what to do with that information tbh
[00:38] <zykotick9> n1md4: expert modes "shouldn't" be required... that's even MORE in depth (i almost _never_ use expert)... but ubuntu _might_ be different?
[00:38] <megaman> reisio: It says you can use the gnome control center too, and it doesn't help
[00:39] <n1md4> zykotick9: yeah, i've installed various debians for years now, and on the netinst there is the tasksel, i'm pretty sure it did'nt offer that with the ubuntu install.  i'm trying expert, as i've already got the iso dd'd
[00:40] <n1md4> hmm expert is actually too much, can't be bothered with that.
[00:43] <reisio> ToeSnacks: ?
[00:43] <ToeSnacks> reisio: what?
[00:44] <reisio> megaman: you can put it into /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/
[00:44] <reisio> ToeSnacks: read up for what?
[00:45] <megaman> reisio: So I change the res on that code? And it say Nvidia while I have amd
[00:46] <reisio> megaman: oh haha sorry
[00:46] <ToeSnacks> My login issues. I can not log into my system. I get kicked back to the login prompt every time I try.
[00:46] <ToeSnacks> And I have been trying to dissect logs to figure out what the problem is
[00:47] <SynfulAck> sudo add-apt-repository , is this the correct way to do it or is there a diff way since now they suggest using just apt for Xenial?
[00:47] <ToeSnacks> When is when you chimed in about things that aren't problems not being problems
[00:47] <reisio> megaman: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Multihead#Example:_dualhead_configuration_using_relative_coordinates
[00:48] <megaman> reisio: I can name identifier what ever I want?
[00:49] <Dylan____> Hey guys just got ubuntu 1604 fresh off the net burned it etc and i cant install my driver for wireless on my mac cause of the change of the software center
[00:49] <Dylan____> I was able to install my wireless through the normal ubuntu software but instead i cant now with gnome software center
[00:49] <reisio> megaman: read up just a couple lines: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Multihead#Configuration_using_xorg.conf
[00:50] <Brobo> I have added a new name based vhost config in /etc/apache2/sites-available and set up a soft link in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled using a2ensite. I restarted the service, but it still only brings up the original vhost. What may I be overlooking?
[00:50] <megaman> reisio: Ah okey, but I have no xorg.conf.d folder at X11
[00:51] <reisio> megaman: mkdir it
[00:52] <alu> 16.04 broke my ethernet drivers or something
[00:52] <reisio> alu: what makes you think that
[00:53] <alu> i upgraded from 15.10 to 16.04
[00:54] <alu> and the its wired but no connection anymore
[00:54] <alu> tried doing dhclient
[00:54] <alu> it was not a good upgrade but people recommended 15.10 to 16.04
[00:56] <xenialdenial> hey all, in the middle of upgrade from 15.10 to 16.04 and x kinda died (ish). I still have this firefox window, but all else is gone, including launch bar. alt-tab does nothing, super does nothing. How can i tell if upgrade is done? on session 1 using top I see 'xenial' is still using 3-5 cpu, but that might be constant in it'd "done" state.
[00:57] <xenialdenial> or maybe someway I can breathe life back into x. I'm just afraid to force a shutdown before it's ready.
[00:57] <nedstark> alu, this page may help. it lists a process that you could follow.  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2222204
[00:57] <Rhorse> xenialdenial: can you switch to a console alt ctrl F1, and run top?
[00:57] <nedstark> from when someone broke their 13.10 system upgrading to 14.04 (deja vu)
[00:58] <Rhorse> then you can see what's running...
[00:59] <xenialdenial> Rhorse: yes, the only significat usage is xenial, firefox, and indicator-multi - xenial has been steady at 3-4 cpu for about 30 min
[00:59] <nedstark> i only upgrade from odd number version to other odd number versions, and from LTS to LTS.
[00:59] <Slade> Jordan_U, i think i'll let it sit for now. but i'll prepare my next upgrade to include time to figure this out ;)
[01:00] <nedstark> on the rare occasion that i need to change a box to LTS, i do a clean installation
[01:01] <SpaceAce> automatic ssh tunnels on boot, that reconnect if they lose connectivity?
[01:01] <SpaceAce> oops
[01:01] <SpaceAce> How can I create those?
[01:01] <Rhorse> xenialdenial: how long has it been upgrading?
[01:01] <Dylan____> Installing 16.04 on my hp pavillion replacing it with windows do i boot from efi or normal?
[01:01] <SynfulAck> nedstark: is that common practice, like will the upgrade be more successful following versions like that?
[01:02] <Dylan____> Whats better 15.10 or 16.04?
[01:02] <xenialdenial> Rhorse: maybe an hour at this point, it was almost finished downloading when it zonked out, then I waited a bit, it's been about 30 min since that
[01:02] <nedstark> SynfulAck, there seems to be more issues upgrading between regular and LTS or vice versa in my experience
[01:02] <nedstark> also upgrading before a new version hits .1
[01:03] <Rhorse> xenialdenial: I would wait another hour just to be sure, then reboot. It shouldn't take more than 2 hours...
[01:03] <nedstark> i would wait until 16.04.01
[01:03] <nedstark> 16.04.1
[01:03] <megaman> reisio: didn't work
[01:03] <reisio> megaman: what didn't?
[01:03] <megaman> reisio: My identifiers were like DVI-1 and HDMI-0
[01:03] <xenialdenial> Rhorse: ok thanks, any commands like "explorer" in the windows world that might bring back the gui shell
[01:03] <mcphail> xenialdenial: I might be able to help you, as I had the same problem earlier
[01:03] <nedstark> also do a clean install from the beta or rc to final
[01:03] <reisio> megaman: so?
[01:04] <megaman> reisio: I tried to save a image from google and it saved on the non primary
[01:04] <xenialdenial> mcphail: hi, cool, what did you do?
[01:04] <mcphail> xenialdenial: can you use "ctrl-alt-f4" and log in?
[01:04] <reisio> megaman: you restart X first?
[01:04] <xenialdenial> mcphail: yeah
[01:05] <Rhorse> xenialdenial: that's prolly due to your config files in your home dir being overwritten. They _should_ regenerate for the new DTE when you log in next time. Keep your fingers crossed...
[01:05] <megaman> reisio: How do i do that?
[01:05] <mcphail> xenialdenial: "ps aux | grep upgrade | nc termbin.com 9999" please
[01:05] <reisio> megaman: sudo service lightdm restart
[01:06] <Rhorse> xenialdenial: if you have a problem you can try to create another user and then login fresh with the new user. Sometimes that works...
[01:06] <xtr33> Hi guys, installed xubuntu 16.04.  The mouse pointer dissapears after resuming from sleep.  What would be the best way to resolve this issue.  08 macbook.
[01:07] <megaman_> reisio: Still same problem
[01:08] <xenialdenial> mcphail: http://www.termbin.com/5seu
[01:08] <xenialdenial> Rhorse: got it, will try that if my user doesn't work
[01:09] <reisio> megaman_: sure you got the config right?
[01:09] <nedstark> xtr33, maybe try a different desktop like gnome 3 to see if the same thing happens.
[01:10] <mcphail> xenialdenial: looks OK. You're install hasn't stuck in the same place as mine, and should be carrying on nicely in the background. Just be patient
[01:10] <mcphail> *your
[01:10] <xtr33> nedstark:  Thanks, just googled and it has been reported as a bug in xubuntu
[01:11] <xenialdenial> mcphail: cool, thanks for that grep
[01:11] <mcphail> xenialdenial: the window manager crash is a definite problem though. I had it (and couldn't cancel an important dialog) and there have been a few reports on the interweb. If you're like me, you'll have to reset compiz when you log on to 16.04
[01:12] <megaman_> reisio: https://imgur.com/a/wKUIG
[01:13] <xenialdenial> mcphail: can you tell me how to do that?
[01:14] <krytarik> xtr33: As well as mentioned in the release notes, ftm.
[01:22] <bobdobbs> Hi all. I was having trouble running 'apt-get dist-upgrade' before, because of errors related to the mysql server. I now no longer get those errors. I can run 'apt-get' operations just fine.
[01:22] <bobdobbs> But now I can't get mysql to run
[01:22] <bobdobbs> If I do 'service mysql server start', the command prompt returns without a message. But the server isn't running
[01:22] <bobdobbs> If I do
[01:22] <aerth> if it aint one thing its the other!
[01:23] <deadmund> bobdobbs: Why do you say, "it isn't running" ?
[01:23] <bobdobbs> If I do '/etc/init.d/mysqld start', I get the same
[01:23] <aerth> no output?
[01:23] <bobdobbs> deadmund: cos if I do a 'ps auxw | grep mysql', I can't see an entry
[01:25] <bobdobbs> aerth: yeah, no output
[01:25] <megaman_> reisio: So, any more ideas?
[01:26] <deadmund> bobdobbs: Anything in syslog ?
[01:26] <deadmund> megaman_: What's the problem?  can you catch me up?
[01:26] <bobdobbs> deadmund: I'm not conversant with syslog. Where should I look?
[01:26] <bobdobbs> deadmund: oh. I can see I have a dir: /var/log/mysql ... I'll look in there
[01:27] <aerth> bam
[01:27] <megaman_> deadmund: Trying to set primary monitor, have tried this without luck: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Multihead#Configuration_using_xorg.conf
[01:27] <deadmund> bobdobbs: that's even better.  REad the log.  I'm sure it says stuff :)
[01:28] <aerth> megaman_: try arandr !!!! it rocks
[01:28] <aerth> oh nm
[01:28] <deadmund> megaman_: Have you tried just using the GUI / desktop environment?  Is this unity (stock ubuntu) ?
[01:28] <bobdobbs> deadmund: looking into it now
[01:29] <megaman_> deadmund: Yea and that doesn't help, according to google it just sets left monitor as primary and that's my problem
[01:29] <megaman_> aerth: How?
[01:29] <Bashing-om> bobdobbs: upstart/systemd .. 14.04/16.04 " .. systemd is different command structure .
[01:30] <deadmund> megaman_: Seems like a limitation of unity.  In KDE for example you can arbitrarily set any monitor to be the primary one.
[01:31] <deadmund> megaman_: Have you looked at ~/.config/monitors.xml ??
[01:31] <bobdobbs> Bashing-om, deadmund well, guess what... I backed up and emptied the log file so I could generate new errors on startup. Then I started mysql with /etc/init.d/mysql. I got a message (which I'll pastebin in a moment). But now the server seems like it's running fine.
[01:31] <megaman_> deadmund: Haven't yet
[01:31] <aerth> sudo apt-get install arandr is the noob way
[01:31] <aerth> (how i do it)
[01:31] <bobdobbs> I can tell it's running cos I can load my localdev wordpress sites just fine.
[01:31] <megaman_> aerth: arandr seems so limited, how do i set primary?
[01:32] <megaman_> aerth: It says that the right monitor is primary, but that isn't true
[01:32] <megaman_> aerth: I think it just means where to place launcher with primary nothing else
[01:32] <Dylan____> Hey can you change the position of unity launcher to bottom now?
[01:33] <bobdobbs> deadmund: actually, I do get some errors. After the restart the error.log has abuot 500 new lines. The log has all these blocks that look like this :  https://pastee.org/77w2m
[01:34] <megaman_> deadmund: How do I go to that folder, where is it exactly?
[01:34] <bobdobbs> Thats a little worrying. but I guess I can only solve it on a db-by-db basis
[01:34] <aerth> no its the left one
[01:35] <aerth> i was surprised to see amazon icon in 16.04
[01:35] <magicka_> wasnt it in the prior build?
[01:36] <aerth> yeah i kind of was hoping it would be removed from default install
[01:36] <megaman_> no one in here uses dual monitors??
[01:37] <aerth> bye thank u all
[01:41] <irinix> Does anyone have a workaround for system-config-printer freezing up in 15.10?
[01:41] <irinix> during searching for driver
[01:45] <reisio> irinix: run it from a terminal and find an error message
[01:46] <irinix> reisio, apparently it decided to run for me this time.  =/
[01:46] <irinix> I've been trying for a week to add my network printer and each time it would freeze up on searching for drivers.
[01:46] <reisio> :p
[01:48] <deadmund> Are there any programs / file explorers that allow me to tag files and search over the tags?
[01:48] <reisio> deadmund: yeah...
[01:48] <reisio> look into FUSE-based "tagged" FSes
[01:48] <reisio> "taggedfs", etc.
[01:50] <reisio> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/tag-based-filesystem etc.
[01:51] <reisio> https://github.com/mwatts15/TagFS etc. etc. etc.
[01:53] <reisio> tagsistant, fsgateway, and tagfs (in no particular order) seem to have the most traction
[01:54] <ToeSnacks> so after some digging it appears my login issues are not related to lightdm but the issue is actually unity crashing. I installed i3 and can log in without issue.
[01:55] <ToeSnacks> does anyone have any ideas about tracking down a unity crash?
[01:55] <reisio> ToeSnacks: what graphics device & driver?
[01:56] <ToeSnacks> Intel/Nvidia discreet system
[01:56] <ToeSnacks> so Intel at the moment I believe
[01:57] <ToeSnacks> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 4th Gen Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 06)
[01:57] <ToeSnacks> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GK208M [GeForce GT 730M] (rev a1)
[01:58] <reisio> very occasionally compiz will be unsupported out of the box by intel
[01:58] <reisio> ToeSnacks: install openbox, run that instead of unity/compiz, then try running compiz --replace from openbox
[01:59] <ToeSnacks> is there any logging that would indicate compiz is the culprit before I do that?
[01:59] <Dylan____> Hey my laptop has a intel core i3-4030u cpu is that good if so how many cores does it have cause it shows up as x4 on ubuntu
[01:59] <Dylan____> And are intel haswell mobile graphics good?
[02:00] <duckgoose> no intel based graphics are good
[02:00] <reisio> ToeSnacks: grep EE /var/log/Xorg*log
[02:00] <ToeSnacks> also why do I need openbox if I am in i3 right now?
[02:00] <Dylan____> Says here i have haswell mobile graphics
[02:00] <reisio> Dylan____: 4030u?
[02:00] <Dylan____> Yeah
[02:00] <reisio> http://ark.intel.com/products/81018/Intel-Core-i3-4030U-Processor-3M-Cache-1_90-GHz
[02:00] <Dylan____> Thats what the processor is
[02:01] <reisio> 2 cores
[02:01] <reisio> doubled fake cores
[02:01] <Dylan____> Hmm ok
[02:01] <Dylan____> It shows 4 cores on ubuntu
[02:01] <Dylan____> Idk why though
[02:01] <reisio> you should see four duplicates in /proc/cpuinfo
[02:01] <reisio> it pretends to have an extra core per real core
[02:01] <Dylan____> Is that like normal though
[02:01] <reisio> yes it is
[02:01] <duckgoose> Malaysia Airlines Flight 370
[02:01] <reisio> that's "hyperthreading", you've probably heard the term
[02:01] <Dylan____> Oh ok see i thought it was bad
[02:01] <reisio> on the site I linked it's # of Cores vs # of Threads
[02:02] <Dylan____> :) ubuntu seems fluid on this laptop
[02:03] <reisio> there is some debate as to whether hyperthreading is actually helpful
[02:03] <ToeSnacks> reisio: does compiz --replace need to be run specifically from openbox?
[02:03] <reisio> but it won't hurt
[02:03] <ToeSnacks> or can it be run from i3
[02:03] <reisio> ToeSnacks: oh yeah of course from i3 is fine, too
[02:03] <reisio> had forgotten that already :p
[02:04] <ToeSnacks> ok cool just making sure there wasn't a config or package that comes with openbox that the process would be dependent upon
[02:04] <reisio> no the idea is just to observe the output, from a running X
[02:05] <Vonologic> Does cinnamon run as well on Ubuntu as it does on Linux Mint? I'm trying to decide on something other than Unity
[02:05] <reisio> IME compiz produces a lovely neat error if it's just a matter of your intel device being known to have issues
[02:05] <reisio> usually you can un-blacklist it as well and accept your fate
[02:05] <reisio> Vonologic: Linux Mint is Ubuntu (and both are Debian)
[02:05] <reisio> should run roughly the same on any of the three
[02:06] <reisio> Vonologic: what don't you like about Unity, maybe you can get some suggestions
[02:06] <ToeSnacks> I saw no errors
[02:06] <Vonologic> I'm originally a Windows guy so Unity's launch bar setup isn't so appealing to me
[02:07] <ToeSnacks> actually I take that  back there's  compiz (core) - Fatal: Couldn't open display
[02:07] <ToeSnacks> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/4V4eIZwW/
[02:07] <Vonologic> Honestly, I just want something that looks like Cinnamon but isn't as heavyweight
[02:08] <reisio> Vonologic: sounds like you want Xfce, then
[02:08] <ToeSnacks> Vonologic: or mate
[02:08] <reisio> mate is heavier than xfce
[02:08] <reisio> and one might argue not well maintained
[02:08] <ToeSnacks> yeah but lighter than cinnamon
[02:08] <ToeSnacks> xfce is best though
[02:08] <reisio> :)
[02:09] <ToeSnacks> reisio: is the error in that paste anything of concern?
[02:09] <reisio> you can do something like dpkg -r --force-all ubuntu-desktop; apt-get install xubuntu-desktop; apt-get autoremove to generally switch from ubuntu-desktop to xubuntu-desktop
[02:09] <reisio> and then it'll be minimal reconfiguration of Xfce to make it look more like "Windows"
[02:09] <reisio> ToeSnacks: that's from i3?
[02:09] <ToeSnacks> reisio: yes
[02:10] <reisio> ToeSnacks: and just in an ordinary fresh terminal, not within screen/tmux, right?
[02:10] <ToeSnacks> that is with tmux
[02:10] <d4rkfr06> it's odd. Windows is trying to become Ubuntu and we sometimes customize Ubuntu to be like Windows.
[02:10] <ToeSnacks> I will rerun sans tmux
[02:10] <reisio> ToeSnacks: yes do that :)
[02:10] <reisio> d4rkfr06: people are odd :p
[02:10] <ToeSnacks> the error is replaced with this compiz (core) - Error: Another window manager is already running on screen: 0
[02:10] <ToeSnacks> all other lines are the same
[02:11] <reisio> ToeSnacks: from 'compiz --replace'?
[02:11] <ToeSnacks> yes
[02:11] <reisio> ToeSnacks: try killall i3; compiz
[02:11] <reisio> you'll lose the ability to manage windows
[02:11] <reisio> but your term should remain open
[02:11] <reisio> you can run 'i3' to get it back if compiz fails
[02:11] <ToeSnacks> thanks
[02:11] <reisio> or i3 --replace, something like that
[02:13] <ToeSnacks> reisio: kicked me back to the login screen and unity still crashes
[02:13] <reisio> ToeSnacks: okay, try it again, but do 'compiz 2>&1 | tee ~/datlogfilehotness' this time
[02:13] <reisio> ToeSnacks: altenatively you can do it from tmux
[02:14] <reisio> ToeSnacks: and prepend DISPLAY=:0 (so DISPLAY=:0 compiz)
[02:14] <reisio> or whatever ps aux | grep X says the # is, if not 0 (but it's probably 0)
[02:14] <ToeSnacks> Can this be done from tty1 or does it need to be done in an x session?
[02:15] <reisio> ToeSnacks: from anywhere if you export DISPLAY as explained
[02:16] <reisio> ToeSnacks: as long as X is actually running
[02:16] <reisio> so: 1) start i3 2) run with DISPLAY=:0 from anyplace you like 3) observe error output at leisure
[02:16] <reisio> ToeSnacks: alternatively, you can stop X entirely and try running compiz alone
[02:17] <reisio> that's how most window manager's work, but I can't say I've ever tried it with compiz
[02:17] <reisio> stop X/lightdm/gdm/etc.
[02:17] <ToeSnacks> so "DISPLAY=:0 compiz 2>&1 | tee ~/datlogfilehotness" in the terminal?
[02:19] <crypticgator> if im under a user with no admin privalage how can i run apt get commands? I tried ssh my adminuser@local and connection was refused
[02:19] <mladoux> crypticgator, can you sudo?
[02:20] <reisio> ToeSnacks: if it's in a term that won't disappear, you can just do DISPLAY=:0 compiz
[02:20] <reisio> DISPLAY=:0 compiz --replace
[02:20] <mladoux> if not, can you su into a user that can?
[02:20] <reisio> or, if X is not running, just 'compiz' (presumably)
[02:20] <ToeSnacks> Still could not open display 0
[02:22] <reisio> ToeSnacks: right, looking for an error or three
[02:23] <ToeSnacks> Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 keycompiz (core) - Fatal: Couldn't open display :0
[02:24] <ToeSnacks> That's the only error
[02:24] <alu> i have a fresh install of 16.04
[02:25] <alu> is there a better way to install nvidia drivers now
[02:25] <alu> titan x in my system
[02:25] <baytes> ts
[02:25] <reisio> alu: nope
[02:25] <alu> :(
[02:27] <FatBoyXPC> I'm running kernel 4.5.1 on Ubuntu 14.04. I am on a thinkpad x1 carbon 3rd gen. I wanted a higher kernel in order to get the acpi changes in kernel 3.19+. The only problem is, 3.19+ seems to make my laptop freeze. I've tried combing through /var/log/syslog and nothing jumps out. How can I troubleshoot these freezes?
[02:27] <Vonologic> Can someone link me a guide/tell me how to install the latest XFCE via the terminal
[02:27] <JaxJax> Hi! I wanted to set an animated .gif as my wallpaper. I'm running Lubuntu.
[02:28] <JaxJax> I tried looking up stuff but the ways mentioned through search engine knowledge don't seem to work
[02:28] <JaxJax> So I thought I'd ask here.
[02:28] <reisio> JaxJax: remind me, if you right click on your desktop in LXDE, what happens?
[02:28] <JaxJax> A lil menu pops up, with Desktop Preferences
[02:28] <reisio> JaxJax: not an openbox menu?
[02:29] <JaxJax> Yes, Desktop Prefs are one of the options.
[02:29] <JaxJax> It's very similar to what Ubuntu pulls up, would you like a pic?
[02:30] <JaxJax> And on second glance, no it's similar to what Ubuntu pulls up
[02:31] <reisio> JaxJax: no that's enough info
[02:31] <JaxJax> okay
[02:31] <tjbenator> Anyone having a problem with Ubuntu Server 16.04 booting to a blank screen? I can manually switch to tty[1-6], but it would be nice if it would boot to one of them
[02:32] <JaxJax> reisio: how would I make it work? I've tried xwinwrap already.
[02:33] <reisio> JaxJax: xwinwrap will probably work, but first you'd have to tell your file manager to stop controlling the root window
[02:33] <reisio> JaxJax: that's why you get that desktop prefs menu
[02:34] <JaxJax> How do I do that?
[02:36] <reisio> JaxJax: apparently in that desktop prefs menu
[02:37] <squinty> tjbenator,  there was a participant about a week ago (iirc) that was experiencing the same situation.  No idea if the problem was solved or not though.  might want ask in #ubuntu-server too
[02:37] <JaxJax> Okay, I did what you said, and I'm trying xwinwrap again
[02:38] <reisio> JaxJax: try this: egrep -ir 'pcman.*?desktop' ~/.config
[02:38] <tjbenator> Ah okay, thanks squinty :)
[02:38] <reisio> JaxJax: if you see pcmanfm --desktop, you can replace it with --desktop-off, then restart X
[02:40] <JaxJax> I don't see it
[02:41] <reisio> JaxJax: could also try just egrep -ir pcmanfm ~/.config
[02:42] <reisio> JaxJax: or see if you can find it directly within ~/.config/autostart
[02:43] <JaxJax> Replaced it with the off. Restarting X now.
[02:44] <JaxJax> Okay trying xwinwrap now, still a blank response
[02:45] <jiffe> isn't the grub menu supposed to show if I hold shift at boot?
[02:45] <JaxJax> Like the terminal doesn't react, it acts as if it's working on it or something but never does
[02:46] <reisio> JaxJax: what's the command you're running, and are you running it from X
[02:46] <reisio> JaxJax: your desktop should just be black/blank beforehand
[02:47] <vfw> JaxJax: Yes
[02:47] <JaxJax> "sudo ./gifbg.sh /home/terminalzero/Pictures/Wallpapers/gifbng.gif"
[02:47] <reisio> JaxJax: not with sudo
[02:48] <JaxJax> Not working, still. BG is black but gif not appearing
[02:50] <reisio> JaxJax: where'd you get your gifbg.sh?
[02:51] <JaxJax> From one of the tuts i found on google?
[02:52] <reisio> JaxJax: if it's the one I'm looking at, I doubt it'd work :p
[02:52] <reisio> try xwinwrap itself first
[02:53] <JaxJax> how would I do that?
[02:53] <reisio> JaxJax: put your gifbg.sh on dpaste.com for me
[02:55] <JaxJax> http://paste.ubuntu.com/15994700/ Paste
[02:56] <reisio> JaxJax: you got all those executables?
[02:57] <JaxJax> yes, I had to download and unpack them
[02:57] <reisio> JaxJax: might want to change it to /bin/bash as well, that script probably predates Ubuntu's dash adoption
[02:57] <reisio> or call it ash bash gifbg.sh foo
[02:58] <reisio> it as*
[02:58] <JaxJax> Well, this is really complicated. Sure wish there was a simple tar.gz that once I sudo make'd it, would work for this :/
[02:58] <JaxJax> Or a deb.
[02:59] <wyre> hi guys! ubuntu doesn't hibernate when I issue "sudo pm-hibernate" in terminal
[02:59] <wyre> anyone has ideas?
[02:59] <x-8> olow
[02:59] <wyre> 16.04
[02:59] <x-8> test
[02:59] <x-8> olow
[02:59] <x-8> test
[02:59] <x-8> ping
[02:59] <x-8> sudo airmon-ng
[02:59] <reisio> JaxJax: try xwinwrap directly first just to make sure it works on its own
[03:00] <JaxJax> How do I try xwinwrap directly?
[03:01] <JaxJax> I changed the .sh like you said and it's still just blank
[03:01] <reisio> xwinwrap --help will probably say
[03:01] <reisio> or -h, etc.
[03:02] <JaxJax> reisio: Output http://paste.ubuntu.com/15994770/
[03:02] <kai__579> hi. i am trying to use python3-dbg but it seems like not all packages have dbg symbols. for example i cant find python3-leveldb-dbg
[03:03] <kai__579> any idea what i could do. do i have to build it myself?
[03:03] <zykotick9> wyre: have you tried: "sudo systemctl hibernate"?
[03:03] <wyre> zykotick9, doesn't work either
[03:03] <zykotick9> wyre: ??? <- good luck then.
[03:03] <wyre> I think ubuntu doesn't manage power with systemctl
[03:03] <wyre> (systemd)
[03:11] <bmoloney> I am seeing a kernel oops on 16.04 which seems to be from issues with the nvme driver. The server has two PCIe NVME drives (Intel P3600).  I have been running 14.04 successfully on this hardware.
[03:13] <bmoloney> How do I file a bug if apport is not an option?  The launchpad website seems to hide this functionality.
[03:20] <neo_> hi
[03:20] <nito_> help i can install .deb on my ubuntu 16.04!!!!!!!!
[03:21] <Wulf> nito_: delete dpkg to fix this
[03:21] <nito_> thanks
[03:21] <nito_> bro
[03:21] <reisio> do eeet
[03:21] <reisio> neo_: ohai
[03:22] <JaxJax> Gave up on the gif thing :/
[03:22] <JaxJax> Thanks anyways
[03:22] <reisio> never give up (never surrender)
[03:22] <JaxJax> Why not?
[03:22] <reisio> galaxyquest :)
[03:23] <wyoung> JaxJax: that's what tim allen's character says
[03:23] <ubuntu> perv
[03:23] <JaxJax> Well Linux isn't galaxy quest.
[03:23] <reisio> isn't it?
[03:23] <wyoung> JaxJax: why not?
[03:23] <JaxJax> I don't understand why there isn't a simple .tar.gz for this, or an application
[03:23] <JaxJax> It's annoying.
[03:23] <wyoung> There are some parallels
[03:24] <wyoung> JaxJax: what are you trying to do again?
[03:24] <JaxJax> Trying to make a .gif run on my desktop
[03:24] <JaxJax> an animated one
[03:25] <wyoung> JaxJax: ok, http://ask.brothersoft.com/how-to-convert-an-animated-gif-to-an-ffmpeg-video-file-46111.html
[03:25] <reisio> there's mroe than one
[03:25] <reisio> there's*
[03:25] <wyoung> JaxJax: one way (as pasted above) is to convert it to a movie format :)
[03:26] <JaxJax> so once it's a video, what do I do?
[03:26] <wyoung> JaxJax: another is to view it in a web browser
[03:26] <wyoung> JaxJax: play it
[03:26] <wyoung> VLC <3
[03:26] <JaxJax> I mean as my wallpaper
[03:26] <JaxJax> XD
[03:26] <wyoung> you didn't mention that
[03:26] <JaxJax> Not as in viewing it
[03:26] <JaxJax> I'm sorry, Mr. Young.
[03:26] <wyoung> "run on my desktop" I thought you were being a windows user then :)
[03:27] <JaxJax> Maybe I could try using WINE to make a windows program do it?
[03:27] <n5fxx> New to Ubuntu. Yesterday installed 14.04 and had problems with the wifi connection. Today I upgraded to 16.04 and wifi is working fine :)
[03:27] <reisio> 'Wine'
[03:27] <wyoung> JaxJax: I have no idea if that is even supported by unity.  There are other desktop environments that support that, I know enlightnment did back in the day
[03:27] <reisio> JaxJax: no need
[03:28] <wyoung> JaxJax: if you want to but will be a waste of time
[03:28] <JaxJax> Well seeing as nothing else is working, might as well
[03:28] <wyoung> JaxJax: yeah but I dont see that working at all
[03:28] <wyoung> JaxJax: your issue is unity
[03:29] <JaxJax> I have XFCE
[03:29] <JaxJax> Not Unity
[03:29] <wyoung> JaxJax: ok, you didn't mention that either before :)
[03:29] <wyoung> JaxJax: anything else?
[03:30] <wyoung> JaxJax: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2015/05/animated-wallpaper-adds-live-backgrounds-to-linux-distros
[03:30] <JaxJax> Okay, restating what I want. I am running Lubuntu 14.04 LTS. I want to run a .gif as my wallpaper with it being animated.
[03:30] <JaxJax> Those are preset
[03:30] <wyoung> JaxJax: that isn't XCFE though, that is unity
[03:30] <JaxJax> Lubuntu is Unity? Since when?
[03:31] <reisio> you're not looking at this correctly
[03:31] <reisio> xwinwrap is your tool
[03:31] <wyoung> JaxJax: I was refering to the link I pasted
[03:31] <anchorhead> 1
[03:31] <sadex> hey
[03:32] <sadex> hello?
[03:32] <wyoung> hi hi sadex
[03:32] <wyoung> bye bye sadex
[03:32] <reisio> hi hi sadex
[03:32] <reisio> bye bye sadex
[03:32] <reisio> wyoung: I miss sadex
[03:32] <wyoung> reisio: i know right
[03:32] <JaxJax> Oh, okay.
[03:34] <JaxJax> WINE doesn't work with it. Oh well.
[03:34] <reisio> 'Wine'
[03:34] <reisio> you wouldn't want to use Wine for this, anyway
[03:34] <wyoung> reisio: that's what I said
[03:34] <reisio> twis
[03:34] <JaxJax> Well I pasted xwinwrap input to you and asked what should I do
[03:34] <JaxJax> and you didn't say anything
[03:34] <reisio> you should use xwinwrap
[03:34] <JaxJax> *output
[03:34] <alu> my stupid ethernet isnt working with 16.04
[03:35] <reisio> alu: fix it :)
[03:35] <JaxJax> Yes, but what do I enter? xwinwrap what?
[03:35] <reisio> JaxJax: xwinwrap --help
[03:35] <JaxJax> I pasted the output of that to you because it wasn't making sense to me
[03:35] <wyoung> alu: ;(
[03:35] <wyoung> alu: I am using 15.10 atm, everything works
[03:35] <reisio> JaxJax: link
[03:35] <BenderRodriguez> alu, Killer NIC?
[03:36] <JaxJax> reisio: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15994770/
[03:36] <alu> I wish I never upgraded to 16.04
[03:36] <alu> everything on 15.10 worked
[03:37] <alu> now my production is delayed
[03:37] <alu> my fault entirely
[03:37] <reisio> JaxJax: try this one, with /bin/bash: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/meh/.config/master/bin/gifbg.sh
[03:38] <JaxJax> 14.04 LTS is supported till 2019, why the rush alu?
[03:38] <JaxJax> :3
[03:40] <JaxJax> reisio: Nothing happened
[03:41] <reisio> JaxJax: does 'xsetroot -gray' do anything?
[03:42] <JaxJax> It makes it gray?
[03:42] <reisio> is that a question?
[03:42] <JaxJax> No it's a statement
[03:43] <JaxJax> Maybe it's cause the file manager still hasn't stopped controlling the desktop or w/e ?
[03:43] <JaxJax> I just thought of that
[03:43] <Geo_> Good day everyone!
[03:43] <JaxJax> Hi Geo.
[03:43] <Geo_> New here, just wanted to say hi
[03:43] <Geo_> Greetings jaxjax :D
[03:44] <JaxJax> Greetings c:
[03:45] <JaxJax> reisio: how do I make it stop controlling the desktop again? (File Manager) I turned off Use Desktop as a folder in preferences
[03:45] <Geo_> Eh anyone know how to make wine work correctly in Xenial?
[03:46] <reisio> JaxJax: so the answer to "does 'xsetroot -gray' do anything?" is "no"?
[03:46] <reisio> Geo_: define work correctly
[03:46] <JaxJax> It makes part of the screen gray reisio
[03:46] <Geo_> Sorry i should of been more specific, its not capturing .exe and running them as the default package manager.
[03:47] <JaxJax> Like there's a widget thing that shows PC specs in the right corner, around that area it went gray
[03:47] <reisio> JaxJax: and if you run 'killall pcmanfm'?
[03:47] <JaxJax> whole thing gets gray
[03:48] <reisio> JaxJax: okay, now try gifbg.sh again
[03:48] <JaxJax> Alright.
[03:48] <JaxJax> Still gray
[03:48] <alu> -_-
[03:48] <alu> im going back to 14.04 i think
[03:48] <JaxJax> It has no output it just stays gray
[03:49] <JaxJax> Alu, what's up?
[03:49] <reisio> JaxJax: okay, find yourself a video, make sure mplayer is installed, and try this: xwinwrap -ni -o 0.6 -fs -s -st -sp -b -nf -- mplayer -wid WID -quiet path/to/video
[03:49] <alu> i cant even do anything, ethernet driver is messed up
[03:49] <Geo_> yeah so far, i think i want to go back to 14.04 as well haha
[03:49] <alu> im on skylake build w/ asrock z170 fatal1ty mobo
[03:49] <Geo_> But, im determined to get everything working again
[03:49] <alu> yeah but this is broken outta the box
[03:50] <alu> i just reinstalled clean
[03:50] <alu> and upgraded
[03:50] <alu> now when i restart ethernet doesnt connect
[03:50] <JaxJax> Try resetting the network adapter alu?
[03:50] <Geo_> is the network card being detected alu?
[03:51] <alu> ok
[03:51] <alu> lemme just turn the card off and on
[03:51] <Geo_> so its being detected?
[03:53] <JaxJax> reisio: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15995059/
[03:53] <JaxJax> TL:DR Mplayer says it died
[03:54] <reisio> JaxJax: no change to your gray root window?
[03:54] <JaxJax> nope
[03:54] <JaxJax> Nothing happened.
[03:54] <JaxJax> At all.
[03:54] <reisio> and the earliear 'xsetroot -gray' command gave you your prompt back, right?
[03:54] <reisio> earlier*
[03:55] <JaxJax> It turned the bg gray
[03:55] <JaxJax> yes
[03:55] <reisio> and gave you your prompt back?
[03:55] <JaxJax> yes
[03:55] <JaxJax> Didn't understand what you meant by giving my prompt back at first but yeah it let me access it again
[03:56] <Geo_> im so stupid
[03:56] <JaxJax> No you're not.
[03:56] <Geo_> Lol, fixed it by right clicking the exe and setting wine as the default
[03:57] <JaxJax> Geo, you just derped.
[03:57] <JaxJax> We all derp.
[03:57] <JaxJax> Einstein derped.
[03:57] <JaxJax> Don't feel too bad about it.
[03:57] <Geo_> ahaha yeah it happens.
[03:58] <Art220> argh!  15.10 to 16.04 killed my desktop. when I now log into unity, I see the icons on my desktop but nothing else. "windows" key doesnt work, no launcher. any ideas other than a fresh install and restore from backup. that seems like cheating. :)
[03:58] <Wulf> Art220: login with a newly created user
[03:59] <JaxJax> reisio: Why isn't that working and why did mplayer "die"?
[03:59] <Art220> thanks Wulf. that is an idea but I'd lose all in my home dir. Wondering if theres a way to reinstall (maybe reset???) the desktop environnment for that user?
[04:00] <reisio> JaxJax: sure mplayer didn't just play the video and finish?
[04:00] <Geo_> i think you can move your old Home dir to the new profile... if im not mistaken
[04:00] <Wulf> Art220: you don't lose anything
[04:01] <Wulf> Art220: create a new user, login. If it works, it must be something with your other user's files. If it does not work, it's the system.
[04:01] <JaxJax> apparently sudo made it work
[04:01] <JaxJax> holy :o
[04:01] <JaxJax> We did it :D
[04:01] <Art220> gotcha. thanks
[04:01] <Geo_> LOL its working now jax?
[04:01] <JaxJax> Now to make it loop
[04:01] <JaxJax> Yes
[04:01] <Geo_> Sweet
[04:01] <JaxJax> and it's beautiful <3
[04:02] <JaxJax> How do I make it loop reisio?
[04:02] <reisio> -loop 0
[04:02] <Geo_> hmm, So im trying to use the Package manager to install Slack - But i get a weird package installer screen and when i click install...it doesnt do anything...
[04:02] <JaxJax> at the end of the command?
[04:02] <reisio> now you should figure out how to make gifsicle work instead of mplayer
[04:02] <reisio> JaxJax: yes
[04:03] <JaxJax> Nah, Mplayer's fine
[04:03] <alu> btw guys it didnt work
[04:03] <reisio> I s'pose it can play a gif, at that
[04:03] <alu> im going back to 14.04
[04:04] <Geo_> Alu - which driver are you using?
[04:04] <alu> what driver? i just did a fresh install
[04:04] <alu> i restarted and now ethernet wont work
[04:04] <Geo_> What ethernet driver
[04:05] <Wulf> alu: ethernet not working? That's unlikely.
[04:05] <alu> i have an asrock z170 fatal1ty mini itx mobo
[04:05] <alu> http://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/Fatal1ty%20Z170%20Gaming-ITXac/
[04:05] <Wulf> alu: what does "lspci | grep -i ether" say?
[04:06] <alu> It shows ethernet controler: intel corporation ethernet connection (2) I219-V (rev 31)
[04:06] <JaxJax> reisio also how do i make sure pcmanfm doesn't try taking control of bg again at boot?
[04:06] <JaxJax> cause killall worked now but it might not when I reboot
[04:06] <Wulf> alu: and "ip link show"? any kernel messages?
[04:07] <JaxJax> ik how to make the command work at boot
[04:07] <reisio> JaxJax: you need to find where it's autoloaded
[04:07] <reisio> JaxJax: it's possible there's something in LXDE's menu for handling sessions
[04:07] <reisio> JaxJax: otherwise use egrep -ilr pcmanfm ~/.config/ as I said
[04:07] <JaxJax> yeah there's default apps for lxsession
[04:07] <bipul> Hi,
[04:08] <reisio> JaxJax: actually first do this test: killall pcmanfm; pcmanfm --desktop-off
[04:08] <bipul> What is schroots? And how one can used it in ubuntu?
[04:08] <reisio> and make sure the desktop is off still
[04:08] <Geo_> Alright good night guys :D
[04:08] <reisio> bipul: chroots?
[04:08] <reisio> bipul: man chroot; can be used for a variety of purposes
[04:08] <Wulf> reisio: the "s" was no typo
[04:08] <reisio> Wulf: indeed, that's how I spell purposes
[04:09] <bipul> no it's schroots
[04:09] <alu> DMESG is a cluster fuck
[04:09] <alu> I cant even read it
[04:09] <reisio> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SimpleSbuild#Creating_the_schroots
[04:09] <reisio> alu: sounds like you're using systemd
[04:09] <alu> ACPI errir'Namespace lookup failure
[04:09] <bipul> reisio, Yes, but some part are confusing.
[04:09] <reisio> bipul: what part
[04:09] <alu> ACPI Error: Method parse/execution failed
[04:10] <alu> AE_NOT_FOUND
[04:10] <alu> its non stop
[04:10] <bipul> Create ~/.sbuildrc: <-- What does it mean?
[04:10] <Wulf> alu: start with the "ip link show"
[04:10] <reisio> bipul: ~/ is a path
[04:10] <Wulf> alu: what interfaces are there besides "lo"?
[04:10] <reisio> bipul: a special one, meaning essentially /home/youruser/
[04:10] <reisio> bipul: .sbuildrc is just a file, though the leading '.' means it is "hidden" (to things that opt to hide hidden files)
[04:11] <sprial02> hi
[04:11] <bipul> reisio, Yes,it's home directory, i know but what does it mean create? here?
[04:11] <alu> enp0s31f6
[04:11] <reisio> bipul: rc files in general are for specifying preferences or commands to applications that will parse them; in this case a config file, no doubt
[04:11] <JaxJax> reisio: It's saying no process found
[04:11] <reisio> bipul: it means create the file '.sbuildrc' at ~/
[04:11] <reisio> sprial02: hi
[04:11] <sprial02> where is this?
[04:11] <reisio> JaxJax: that's fine
[04:11] <Wulf> alu: good. That's your ethernet card
[04:11] <reisio> JaxJax: is it holding on to your prompt?
[04:11] <bipul> oh i see, to create a hidden file in home directory.
[04:11] <Wulf> alu: so what's not working? ;-)
[04:11] <JaxJax> nope
[04:12] <alu> wifi doesnt show anymore, and yeah its not getting an ip
[04:12] <reisio> JaxJax: 'killall pcmanfm; pcmanfm --desktop-off' returns your prompt?
[04:12] <Wulf> alu: dhclient enp0s31f6
[04:12] <JaxJax> yes
[04:12] <Wulf> alu: or: ip link set dev enp0s31f6 up
[04:12] <JaxJax> It does Reisio
[04:12] <sprial02> I used ubunt mate in Raspberry pi
[04:12] <reisio> JaxJax: what does 'pgrep -l pcmanfm' say?
[04:12] <alu> i tried that first one
[04:12] <Wulf> alu: and then "ip link show" again, see if it got a LOWER_UP
[04:12] <JaxJax> returns prompt reisio
[04:13] <sprial02> but I raly
[04:13] <sprial02> exit
[04:13] <alu> LOWER_UP
[04:13] <bipul> reisio, Thank you :)
[04:13] <alu> yeah but it wont connect
[04:13] <JaxJax> reisio: It returns prompt
[04:14] <pcn> Quick question: After upgrading from beta w/ gnome to release, I installed unity8.  For whatever reason, I don't have a terminal, or almost anything.  What should I be installing for that?
[04:14] <JaxJax> in the list of autostart apps it doesn't come up reisio
[04:14] <JaxJax> btw
[04:14] <reisio> JaxJax: and you said egrep -ir pcmanfm ~/.config/ returns nothing?
[04:15] <Rhorse> pcn you mean like xterm or xfce-terminal?
[04:15] <JaxJax> It returns a huge amount of text
[04:16] <reisio> JaxJax: how about egrep -ir pcmanfm ~/.config/ | grep -i auto
[04:16] <reisio> I'm not really familiar with pcmanfm, it might have stored it as a pref already
[04:16] <reisio> restart X to see
[04:16] <JaxJax> it's full of text
[04:17] <JaxJax> okay do you want me to logout and come back?
[04:17] <JaxJax> see if it's still gray?
[04:17] <JaxJax> Right?
[04:19] <reisio> JaxJax: it won't be gray
[04:19] <reisio> JaxJax: but you can run xsetroot -gray again and see if it is
[04:19] <pcn> Rhorse: for example, yes
[04:20] <JaxJax> Hi. Wallpaper returned reisio
[04:21] <JaxJax> But the loop still works :D
[04:21] <JaxJax> so I just have to autoset it to run at start and we're good
[04:24] <reisio> JaxJax: okay here's what you want to do
[04:27] <reisio> JaxJax: do you have the file ~/.config/lxsession/Lubuntu/autostart ?
[04:27] <JaxJax> reisio: I don't think we have to do that, I can blank the wallpaper and have it run as is, the current thing I'm trying to do is get rid of a certain widget that's in the way.
[04:28] <pcn> So Rhorse maybe my question is: I'm sure I have a terminal installed, but there doesn't appear to be a method to launch an application via e.g. a search
[04:28] <JaxJax> So yeah I think we're good here
[04:28]  * reisio shrugs
[04:28] <JaxJax> Thanks :D
[04:28] <JaxJax> I would tip you, but I don't see a tip box so x3
[04:29] <JaxJax> And please, no Paypal, thing's just ick.
[04:29] <JaxJax> I just need a way of turning a resource number using xkill into a name of the program I am trying to remove
[04:30] <JaxJax> Cause I used xkill and it goes, leaving a resource number
[04:30] <JaxJax> The widget I'm trying to get off
[04:30] <reisio> what widget?
[04:30] <JaxJax> It displays vitals of the PC
[04:30] <JaxJax> Like in a box
[04:32] <JaxJax> BRB!
[04:40] <Glamalicious> I have a working persistent live Kubuntu 16.04 usb. I want to prevent the default live user from auto logging in so I can log in with the new account that I created. This has be done by others on Lubuntu and Zorin apparently. I want to do it with Kubuntu.
[04:44] <ubuntu> ++4444333333333
[04:50] <pcn> So, is there a way to get my unity session to where i can launch a terminal?
[04:51] <g4143> pcn: What do you by get my unity session to where I can launch a terminal? Don't you just Alt+f2 terminal?
[04:53] <g4143> pcn: Or you can use the short-cut Ctrl-Atl + T
[04:59] <pcn> g4143: neither works in my case
[05:00] <pcn> Having a touch screen may complicate this?
[05:02] <g4143> pcn: Well you should be able to open Dash...Right? I'm not familiar with Ubuntu and touchscreens.
[05:04] <pcn> It's a laptop with a touchscreen... I wonder if it thinks I'm supposed to be in some kind of kiosk mode
[05:06] <pcn> Switching the option to "desktop mode" just means I get the "Scopes" window, and I can't right-click, I can't ctrl-alt-T, it's pretty infuriation
[05:06] <pcn> *infuriating*
[05:06] <pcn> Trying to start the "browser" just has it appear in a little window, then disappear.
[05:07] <pcn> Time to go back to gnome, I guess?
[05:10] <bipul> hello
[05:11] <azizLIGHT> where do i learn how to become a package maintaner
[05:12] <azizLIGHT> i have source file, and i want ot make a ppa for everyone
[05:12] <lotuspsychje> !contribute | azizLIGHT
[05:13] <azizLIGHT> cool thanks :)
[05:13] <lotuspsychje> azizLIGHT: another interest channel could be #ubuntu-release
[05:14] <f91w> I have an external Seagate Backup+ 5TB USB3 HDD that I'm trying to access from Xubuntu 16.04. I'm unable to access/see/mount/format and have the same issue on 14.04 (Just upgraded). xhci was choking entirely until I disabled the uas module, and now I simply get this in dmesg with no binding to a device I can mount: http://paste.linux.chat/view/724f0aee What should I do so I can use my drive?
[05:14] <azizLIGHT> how does a project on gitlab can become part of ubuntu releases?
[05:14] <f91w> Drive in question: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822178501&cm_re=seagate_backup%2b_5tb-_-22-178-501-_-Product
[05:15] <f91w> My USB controller is intel/c220. I've tried multiple USB ports.
[05:15] <lotuspsychje> azizLIGHT: you need to suggest new packages to be added to ubuntu repo, not sure where
[05:15] <azizLIGHT> i see
[05:16] <azizLIGHT> is this page about debs? i imagine its easier with snaps now
[05:16] <azizLIGHT> (the wiki)
[05:20] <drama> @azizLIGHT you might offer it on your own ppa first http://askubuntu.com/questions/71510/how-do-i-create-a-ppa
[05:20] <azizLIGHT> drama: this is what im thinking
[05:20] <azizLIGHT> im investigating it now
[05:20]  * drama loves ppa
[05:21] <azizLIGHT> will ppa be obsolete in 16.04?
[05:21] <drama> will debs be obsolte?
[05:21] <Wulf> will I be absolute?
[05:22] <drama> lol
[05:22] <azizLIGHT> hehe
[05:22] <bocephus> .rpm!
[05:22] <drama> Mandrake!
[05:22] <bocephus> ...waiting on this response....
[05:22] <lotuspsychje> stick to ubuntu issues guys
[05:23] <bocephus> agreed...
[05:23] <azizLIGHT> snaps sound interesting since they can include older/newer libraries and not interfere with  your own systems libraries, am i understanding that correct?
[05:23] <bocephus> I just did a huge wagon wheel on ubuntu....Ubuntu rules. Hands down!
[05:23] <bocephus> the best.
[05:24] <lotuspsychje> !info snapcraft | azizLIGHT
[05:24] <bocephus> correction: did a huge wagon wheel on Linux[everything] came back to Ubuntu...hahaha.  And all i did was want to get away from ubuntu
[05:24] <bocephus> to find its the only thing that works for me.
[05:25] <bocephus> After all that BS I order a shirt.
[05:26] <bocephus> *ordered
[05:27] <pcn> Looks like I'm running into https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity8/+bug/1541057 so, yeah, back to gnome it is.
[05:30] <rajanmag002> Hello
[05:37] <bocephus> hello
[05:40] <Mickey2001> Hello World!
[05:42] <Xali> Mickey2001: #python
[05:49] <Massi1986> Hi all
[05:50] <bocephus> hi
[05:50] <brianx> hi there
[05:50] <Mickey2001> hello
[05:50] <Massi1986> I have a problem with wifi connection :( Can you help me?
[05:50] <bocephus> sure
[05:50] <bocephus> whats your problem
[05:50] <bocephus> ?
[05:50] <alu> should i
[05:50] <Massi1986> ID 0846:9001 NetGear, Inc. WN111(v2) RangeMax Next Wireless [Atheros AR9170+AR9101]
[05:50] <alu> dd bs=4m if=ubuntu.iso of=/dev/sdX
[05:50] <alu> bs=4M unnecessary?
[05:50] <Vonologic> "An error occurred, please run Package Manager from the right-click menu or apt-get in a terminal to see what is wrong. The error message was: Error: BrokenCount > 0'. This usually means that your installed packages have unmet dependencies."
[05:51] <Vonologic> Software Centre on 16.04 seems to be completely broken for me
[05:51] <bocephus> i hope there is more to that
[05:51] <Massi1986> This adapter make me crazy :/ Unstable and low speed connection
[05:52] <bocephus> did you check what type of wireless card it has?  b/n/g?
[05:52] <alu> ubuntu live usb is going to initramfs
[05:52] <bocephus> whats your through put?
[05:52] <Massi1986> Yes, it's N adapter
[05:52] <bocephus> N?  and still slow? hum?
[05:53] <bocephus> what do you think the problem is?
[05:53] <Massi1986> Slow and unstable... Every 5 minutes it's lost and reconnect... Download is impossible
[05:54] <Massi1986> In Windows working perfectly
[05:54] <bocephus> ahhh.  inbeaded card?
[05:54] <Massi1986> USB adapter
[05:55] <bocephus> ahhhh shucks that might be your problem.
[05:55] <bocephus> what type of adapter.  guess your on a desktop then?
[05:56] <Massi1986> Yes it's on a desktop PC
[05:56] <bocephus> hold on one sec....
[05:56] <Massi1986> 0846:9001 NetGear, Inc. WN111(v2) RangeMax Next Wireless [Atheros AR9170+AR9101]
[05:57] <Massi1986> wlx0026f2f0c536  IEEE 802.11bgn  ESSID:"Vodafone-Max"
[05:57] <Massi1986>           Mode:Managed  Frequency:2.462 GHz  Access Point: 64:59:F8:26:0B:08
[05:57] <Massi1986>           Bit Rate=39 Mb/s   Tx-Power=30 dBm
[05:57] <Massi1986>           Retry short limit:7   RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off
[05:57] <Massi1986>           Power Management:off
[05:57] <Massi1986>           Link Quality=59/70  Signal level=-51 dBm
[05:57] <bocephus> I have an age all cure...you will have to pay for another adapter but it works! all Linux!
[05:57] <auronandace> !paste | Massi1986
[06:01] <bocephus> got it
[06:01] <bocephus> one sec
[06:01] <KeithWeisshar> why is the ubuntu live session freezing with a flashing icon on gtx 980?
[06:01] <bocephus> Alfa Atheros AR9271
[06:02] <wafflejock> does do-release-upgrade not work for Ubuntu Gnome yet?
[06:02] <bocephus> Model AWUS036NHA
[06:02] <KeithWeisshar> i have a skylake cpu and gtx 980 video card
[06:02] <wafflejock> getting No new release found.
[06:02] <cfhowlett> do-release-upgrade unavailable until 16.04.1 as I understand it.
[06:03] <KeithWeisshar> when i boot to live session i get an empty background with flashing desktop icons, why?
[06:04] <bocephus> hope that helps. Sorry i`m not much help past that as far a downloading drives and what not.  But feel free to friend me and let me know.
[06:04] <bocephus> telling you though.  No problems! with this adapter.
[06:07] <KeithWeisshar> is there known issues with gtx 980 on ubuntu 16.04?
[06:07] <bocephus> ...did you install macchanger? by chance
[06:08] <KeithWeisshar> i need help booting ubuntu 16.04 live session but i'm unable to get to the desktop
[06:08] <cfhowlett> !patience | KeithWeisshar
[06:14] <wafflejockPhone> Thanks cfhowlett upgrading now
[06:15] <wafflejockPhone> Is waiting till June for the .1 release normal or is that new?
[06:15] <cfhowlett> wafflejock, it's been that way for at least 2 LTS releases.
[06:16] <wafflejockPhone> Hmm k just don't remember that last time around but I may have just upgraded later
[06:16] <snadge> i want to update my work pc to 16.04 via command line.. is there a recommended way to do this?
[06:17] <cfhowlett> snadge, are on you 14.04?  if so, might want to wait until 16.04.1
[06:17] <snadge> update-manager assumes you want to use gui
[06:17] <snadge> no.. its 15.10
[06:18] <snadge> there are a few old school ways to do this.. eg.. edit your sources.list manually.. then apt-get update ; apt-get dist-upgrade .. but im just wondering if there's a better way to do it remotely
[06:18] <iSlayWyverns> Ubuntu 16.04 - gufw won't launch? http://pastebin.com/9MFTvZ1Y
[06:19] <snadge> found it here.. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Upgrades  .. thanks guys ;)
[06:19] <snadge> sudo do-release-upgrade -d
[06:19] <baizon> iSlayWyverns: sudo apt-get install python-gobject
[06:21] <iSlayWyverns> baizon, it worked, thanks. How did u understand this package was missing?
[06:21] <cfhowlett> snadge, try it but I think that only works during pre-release development stage. as 16.04 has been released ...
[06:22] <snadge> i just dropped the -d .. as it says thats for development, and it appears to be upgrading to xenial.. of course it says.. not recommended via ssh etc
[06:22] <snadge> but we'll see wont we ;)
[06:22] <baizon> iSlayWyverns: import gi, which means it needs python-gi, which is a part of ptyhon-gobject
[06:22] <snadge> i figure its better to upgrade my work pc remotely.. over a long weekend.. and come into it being broken on tuesday.. than it is to start it on tuesday and break it
[06:22] <snadge> i'll at least have a head start :p
[06:23] <cfhowlett> snadge, just tested it
[06:23] <cfhowlett> do-release-upgrade -d
[06:25] <Xark> Hello.  Hmm, wifi worked fine in Ubuntu 16.04 installer, but not after it installed (lists Intel wifi adapter as "disabled").  Is this a known issue?
[06:29] <zekk> anybody know when/if it will possible to install amd proprietary fglrx driver for 16.04?
[06:30] <baizon> zekk: well i got more fps and stable system with amdgpu
[06:31] <zekk> baizon, not first time i've heard that, but i saw some benchmark it was not pretty compared to 15.10 with fglrx
[06:33] <baizon> zekk: which benchmarks?
[06:34] <tjbenator> Was aptitude removed from 16.04?
[06:36] <zekk> baizon, i think it was a opengl benchmark.
[06:39] <baizon> tjbenator: yes it was
[06:44] <Jordan_U> tjbenator: baizon: No, it wasn't. Why do you think it was?
[06:44] <tjbenator> I don't have it on either of my systems :P
[06:45] <Jordan_U> tjbenator: You need to install it. It hasn't been part of the default install for many releases.
[06:46] <alfatau> hello all. I'm running ubuntu server 14.04 LTS. I would like to update only a couple of packages that have been recently released in the latest 16.04 LTS. Is it possible? What's the best practice
[06:46] <baizon> alfatau: use a ppa
[06:46] <Guest1725> hi all mi wifi device disconnects after about 20 minutes of using, and i need to restart to use it again
[06:46] <alfatau> baizon: why not update from the official channel?
[06:46] <tjbenator> Jordan_U: Ah, It was in 14.04. Haven't used anything in between really. Thanks :)
[06:47] <Jordan_U> tjbenator: You're welcome :)
[06:48] <Jordan_U> alfatau: No, that is not supported and is a terrible idea. What packages are you trying to get newer versions of and why?
[06:48] <baizon> alfatau: because it can break dependencies
[06:48] <tjbenator> Now to figure out how to have Ansible install aptitude so that it's apt module will work >,<
[06:49] <sebsebseb> alfatau: which packages?
[06:49] <sebsebseb> alfatau: baizon also ppa's could potentially make the system unstable or a bit
[06:52] <Blue1> has anyone had any success with gnome ubuntu?  It booted up into a weird video mode.  I tried xubuntu and that worked fine.
[06:53] <sebsebseb> Blue1: which version of Ubuntu, and what kind of graphics card you got?
[06:53] <Blue1> sebsebseb: 16.04 (lts) I have an amd Radeon HD 4650
[06:53] <sebsebseb> Blue1: oh AMD Radeon hmm
[06:54] <sebsebseb> Blue1: I read something about how with certain AMD hardware if using the propritary video driver with 16.04 there would be issues
[06:54] <sebsebseb> Blue1: GNOME probably needs something from your graphics card really for some of it's effects, hence the mode you mentioend I would have assumed, where as Xubuntu/XFCE is more old style so no I guess not
[06:54] <Blue1> sebsebseb: this is whatever driver comes packaged on the install disc -- I did a try ubuntu off the live cd first -- that failed.
[06:55] <Blue1> sebsebseb: yes xubuntu 16.04 lts worked fine off the livecd
[06:56] <sebsebseb> Blue1: it may not be your issue, since you said the default diver or whatever anyway, but even so, I guess you should know about this one anyway: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/03/ubuntu-drops-amd-catalyst-fglrx-driver-16-04
[06:56] <Blue1> sebsebseb: All of my systems are pretty old.
[06:57] <sebsebseb> Blue1: seems the open source driver can have some issues though as well going by that link mm
[06:57] <sebsebseb> hmm
[06:57] <Dylan____> Anyone need help atm?
[06:58] <sebsebseb> Blue1: your on the link?
[06:59] <alfatau> sebsebseb, Jordan_U, baizon: thanks. The packages are device-mapper, lvm2 and thin-provisioning-tools. The reason is that the software version is a 2012 release and I'm worried it's still in "experimental" state for thin-provisioning.
[06:59] <KeithWeisshar> when I try Ubuntu 16.04 live on gtx 980 i get a flashing error message "sorry ubuntu 16.04 has encountered an internal error" in package compwiz
[06:59] <Blue1> sebsebseb: good article -- I think I will stick with 14.04 awhile longer.
[06:59] <sebsebseb> alfatau: if you wait a month or so,  you can do a supported LTS to LTS release
[07:00] <sebsebseb> alfatau: 14.04 to 16.04.1
[07:00] <sebsebseb> alfatau: they enable LTS to LTS releaess once the first point release is out, but not before that
[07:00] <sebsebseb> I mean LTS to LTS upgrades
[07:00] <Blue1> sebsebseb: thanks for your time.
[07:00] <sebsebseb> alfatau: better then trying to update a few packages yourself in a not quite supported way really
[07:01] <sebsebseb> Blue1: may be better off on 15.10 depending on your graphics card, but I am not quite sure of that, or well for certain things
[07:01] <sebsebseb> Blue1: are you up for installing some other de's?
[07:01] <alfatau> sebsebseb: ok, so you mean to upgrade the whole system, or get single updated packages?
[07:01] <sebsebseb> Blue1: if so you could try Cinnamon, that's based on GNOME 3, but will use quite a few things on there, could be interesting to see what happens with that one,  just a thought
[07:01] <Dylan____> Does anyone need help or you good?
[07:01] <styles> Hey guys, I was here last night trying to figure out why my upgrade fom 15.04 to 16.10 isn't allowing me to have multiple monitors enabled. I'm using an AMD 7970. I was able to figure out w/ the live cd that both screens are working but my current install doesn't. I had the proprietary drivers installed until I did the upgrade. Right before, I removed them, installed the open source ones and upgraded.
[07:01] <Jordan_U> alfatau: The most important part of getting stable LVM is the kernel, and that has been updated since 14.04 was released.
[07:01] <sebsebseb> Blue1: quite a few things from there GNOME 3
[07:02] <seamus_linux> anyone familiar with compiling stuff at all?
[07:02] <Blue1> sebsebseb: I am using kubuntu 14.04 for my desktop now - I am pretty happy with it -- I will look at cinnamon .
[07:02] <Blue1> seamus_linux: yes
[07:02] <Dylan____> Styles it should pick it up automactically couldnt it
[07:02] <sebsebseb> alfatau: no I mean to just wait untill the point release, unless there is a proper rush to get updated packages
[07:02] <Dylan____> Blue1 kubuntu uses alot of resources
[07:02] <styles> Dylan____, what?
[07:03] <Dylan____> I remember in ubuntu you can have monitor setups
[07:03] <seamus_linux> I keep getting this error: /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lsigc
[07:03] <Dylan____> Let me google so,ethign quick
[07:03] <styles> Dylan____, right.. the issue is it Displays isnt' detecting any other monitors
[07:03] <KeithWeisshar> what causes internal error with crash in compwiz
[07:03] <sebsebseb> Blue1: that's ashame about GNOME,  but yeah I don't like Cinnamon myself much, but for testing your graphics card a bit could be interesting to see how that goes. personally my prefered one after GNOME 3 is Mate the old GNOME  2 fork yeah :)
[07:03] <Jordan_U> seamus_linux: What are you trying to install?
[07:03] <KeithWeisshar> i have an asus z170 pro gaming motherboard and a gtx 980 video card
[07:04] <sebsebseb> Blue1: Mate should work well on your computer
[07:04] <seamus_linux> some old code for a supposed atomic bomberman clone on linux
[07:04] <Jordan_U> seamus_linux: Named?
[07:04] <Dylan____> I looked up something says something about mir desktop
[07:04] <seamus_linux> source is here:  I'm working off the testinb branch: https://github.com/HerbFargus/Atomic-Bomberman
[07:04] <Dylan____> With muti monitors with hdpi
[07:04] <Blue1> sebsebseb: I say -- gnome 2 yesterday.  gnome 2 today.  gnome 2 tomorrow.  I use mate on my raspberry pi -- works very well.
[07:05] <alfatau> Jordan_U: Yes, I know. However I can't update the kernel because the dell omsa utilities are (actually) supported only for the 14.04 kernel. Otherwise I would have upgraded the kernel and implemented thin provisioning using btrfs filesystem instead of using lvm thin support...
[07:05] <sebsebseb> Blue1: Mate is what I would also persoanlly put on a computer that is having enough issues with GNOME 3 to not really want to run GNOME3 on it
[07:06] <Dylan____> Oh thats right whoever asked about monitors use amd catalyst center
[07:06] <Dylan____> You should find some settig. There
[07:06] <Dylan____> About monitors
[07:06] <Jordan_U> alfatau: Upgrading the utilities won't get you much, and using utilities that aren't part of the tested release will more likely decrease your reliability.
[07:06] <Dylan____> Gnome3s really heavy
[07:06] <sebsebseb> Dylan____: you sure it's so simple? seems there are some AMD driver issues with 16.04.   and Blue1 being effected
[07:06] <alfatau> sebsebseb: thank you
[07:07] <sebsebseb> alfatau: wrong person?
[07:07] <Dylan____> Well i dont have a amd graphics card nor nvidia so im just trying to offer some help
[07:07] <Dylan____> Plus amd arnt supporting one driver for 16.04
[07:07] <alfatau> sebsebseb: "no I mean to just wait untill the point release...."
[07:07] <sebsebseb> alfatau: oh yeah I was heling two at once you were the other
[07:07] <sebsebseb> helping
[07:08] <Dylan____> Well im just offering help:)
[07:08] <sebsebseb> alfatau: yep it will only be a month or so, and enough bugs fixed before hand to, and a point release yep, and then LTS to LTS upgrades are offically supported and on
[07:08] <sebsebseb> there will be some undiscovred bugs or more when it's first out of course, hence this point release stuff
[07:08] <sebsebseb> for LTS users
[07:09] <majnoon> i has interesting apache problem
[07:09] <Dylan____> You will have to wait 3 months for lts to lts upgrade
[07:09] <sebsebseb> alfatau: it might be three months, but I don't think it's that long
[07:10] <Dylan____> Says three months on the release notes
[07:10] <sebsebseb> oh
[07:10] <Dylan____> Yeah
[07:10] <majnoon> majnoon.ga gets default page but majnoon.ga/majnoon.ga gets the site i set up :)
[07:10] <sebsebseb> alfatau: the good news is that 16.04 offers snaps
[07:10] <sebsebseb> alfatau: so for the kind of thing you want to do in the future should be easier
[07:11] <majnoon> but it got rid of php 5 :(
[07:11] <alfatau> sebsebseb: yes, 3 months are not that long
[07:11] <sebsebseb> alfatau: since you should be able to seclectively easilly install some updated pacakges without effecting the rest of the system
[07:11] <Dylan____> They say snaps arnt secure
[07:11] <Dylan____> If you read news
[07:11] <sebsebseb> well it's a sandbox
[07:11] <Dylan____> Yeah
[07:11] <sebsebseb> there was some article  that I didn't go on yet that said a something about security
[07:12] <Dylan____> But like still it can steal private thongs
[07:12] <Dylan____> Things
[07:12] <Dylan____> Cause of x11
[07:12] <sebsebseb> Dylan____: yeah possibly, but they will sort that out I think
[07:12] <sebsebseb> or more so
[07:12] <Dylan____> MJnoon what browser you usimg
[07:12] <sebsebseb> yeah 16.04 will keep X11 but I think as of 16.10 things may even go to Mir by default and Unity 8
[07:12] <Dylan____> Yeah
[07:12] <fooctrl> when could we expect Snappy support for Raspberry Pi 3?
[07:12] <majnoon> chrome on my windows laptop
[07:13] <Dylan____> Majnoon this is a ubuntu fourm not windows fourm
[07:13] <alfatau> sebsebseb: yes, I would like to upgrade the whole system but I'm stucked with the upgrades of http://linux.dell.com/repo/community/ubuntu/ . I tried to upgrade the kernel to get latest btrfs support and omsa stopped working.
[07:13] <majnoon> i THINK it a configuration error on apache THAT on ubuntu 16.054
[07:13] <majnoon> *16.04
[07:13] <sebsebseb> alfatau: oh you got an actsaul Ubuntu Dell lap top?
[07:13] <sebsebseb> alfatau: pre installed by Dell one of those?
[07:13] <Dylan____> Yeah 16.10 will go to unity 8 plus add support for mir mutiple monitors hpdi
[07:14]  * Blue1 will wait for the .1 release
[07:14] <majnoon> Dylan____: i think the trouble with apache
[07:14] <Dylan____> Sorry i dont know apache web servers
[07:14] <majnoon> my server is ubuntu 16.04
[07:14] <sebsebseb> Dylan____: yes and around that time most other distros will go to Wayland as well or start going that way, will be interesting :) times :).  Plus the Wayland support in GNOME and I guess KDE to, is nearly there as well :)
[07:14] <Dylan____> Indeed:)
[07:15] <majnoon> is there an #apache ??
[07:15] <Dylan____> So everyone happy with 16.04!
[07:15] <Dylan____> You could check
[07:15] <Dylan____> I installed 16.04 fresh on my hp
[07:15] <sebsebseb> Dylan____: Fedora 24 will be one of the first to go Wayland it seems, then plenty of other distros will follow after that.  Mir will be for Ubuntu and some distros based on it I guess.  but some of those may even try some how and avoide Mir depends
[07:15] <Dylan____> No errors so far
[07:15] <Dylan____> Yep
[07:16] <Dylan____> Mir will be on snappy personal packages
[07:16] <alfatau> sebsebseb: I've ubuntu on Dell Poweredge T320 server with hw raid controller H710. I need some snapshot feature because I have to expose through windows network a data volume in r/w mode and data are so big I can't make historical backups. So the idea is to keep a number (e.g. 30) of daily snapshot and restore from snapshot if data deleted/corrupte
[07:16] <alfatau> d/cryptolocker...
[07:17] <Dylan____> Did they let us have unity 7 or 8 or is that next release
[07:17] <sebsebseb> alfatau: hmm I don't know much about snapshots, but yeah BTFS could have been useful for that I guess, but thats not supported by 14.04,  and only experiemtnal or not fully supported in 16.04 even I guess. Ext4 still default
[07:17] <sebsebseb> alfatau: you would have to re install the whole system anyway to change file system
[07:18] <alfatau> sebsebseb: so I need dell omsa utilities to be warned (email) in case of disk failures.
[07:18] <sebsebseb> alfatau: BTFS hmm about the only distro actsually doing that by default with the excepttion of SalifishOS on the Jolla Phone, seems to be OpenSuse for some reason hmm
[07:19] <Dylan____> What type od server you running alfatau?
[07:19] <sebsebseb> alfatau: I  don't really know about general snapshot type programs for Linux, but I get the impression from things I have read over the years, that it's not really a  paritucarly great area when itcomes to things availalbe and such
[07:19] <sebsebseb> !server
[07:19] <alfatau> sebsebseb: yes, in fact the idea is to use LVM thin provisioning, which seem to be supported in RHEL starting from RHEL7
[07:20] <sebsebseb> alfatau: someone might be able to help you more in there if  around actsaully
[07:20] <styles> Dylan____, the prop amd drivers dont work Jordan_U was helping me last night.
[07:20] <styles> I think we figured out it had something to do with DMI not supported or something
[07:20] <alfatau> Dylan____: dell poweredge t320 with perc h710 raid controller
[07:20] <Dylan____> Have gou tried rsnapshot?
[07:21] <sebsebseb> styles: AMD  don't supporte the prop driver for 16.04 it seems going by this for example: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/03/ubuntu-drops-amd-catalyst-fglrx-driver-16-04
[07:21] <styles> sebsebseb, yeah
[07:21] <Dylan____> Yeah 16.04 did they drop the fglx driver or something
[07:21] <styles> Yeah I know this, the open source driver is running but it's not detecting multiple monitors
[07:21] <Dylan____> Hmm
[07:21] <styles> Under "displays" it's only showing one monitor locked
[07:22] <Dylan____> Have you tried asking on the forums
[07:22] <Dylan____> ?
[07:22] <sebsebseb> styles: I have a feeling that the AMD open source driver actsaullly is pretty rubbish unlike say the Intel one
[07:22] <styles> No, I don't even know what to ask
[07:22] <sebsebseb> styles: Intel actsauly support that htem selves
[07:22] <styles> Jordan_U, was helping me last night and we couldn't figure it out :(
[07:22] <Dylan____> Styles try and ask on the forums
[07:22] <styles> Well he couldn't, I'm not much help
[07:22] <majnoon> here my virtualhost http://pastebin.com/AsmwiZNN
[07:22] <sebsebseb> styles: what I mean is I have a feelig you would probably get some issues with multiple monitors as you say when you said that
[07:22] <Dylan____> Someone should find you a answer
[07:22] <sebsebseb> styles: with AMD open driver
[07:22] <styles> sebsebseb, it works fine w/ the Live CD
[07:22] <sebsebseb> oh
[07:22] <Dylan____> I have a hp laptop with intel core i3 dont know what the little intel microcode thingnis on the driver
[07:22] <styles> It's just my current install (that was upgraded from 15)
[07:23] <sebsebseb> styles: sometimes  the Live CD's ofa  distro something like that owrks, but then an install goes differnet
[07:23] <styles> Yeah
[07:23] <sebsebseb> styles: clean install from a 16.04  install media?
[07:23] <styles> Since xorg isn't in the picture I'm not sure how to reset all the setting
[07:23] <styles> sebsebseb, I just did that recently... I'm really avoiding this
[07:23] <Dylan____> Do i need to install drivers for intel or not?
[07:23] <cyborq> no
[07:23] <majnoon> is there a way i can get php 5 back ?
[07:23] <sebsebseb> styles: I don't think you can do much with the AMD issue, once you upgraded etc
[07:23] <Dylan____> Ok thxs
[07:23] <cyborq> dont need to install drivers
[07:23] <sebsebseb> styles: going by my earlier link as well
[07:24] <Dylan____> Can i ask are haswell graphics bad
[07:24] <sebsebseb> styles: I think your best bet is to try a clean install of 16.04, or even downgrade back to 15.10 for the time being
[07:24] <Dylan____> Cause thats what i have
[07:24] <Dylan____> Apprently
[07:24] <sebsebseb> styles: configuration can not quite upgrade how it should have. on distro version upgrades to,
[07:24] <Dylan____> And i have a intel core i3 that shows in ubuntu that its hyperthreading
[07:24] <sebsebseb> styles: in general
[07:24] <sebsebseb> styles: sometimes
[07:25] <Dylan____> Styles what ubuntu did you have 14.04.3?
[07:25] <styles> 15
[07:25] <Dylan____> Oh ok
[07:25] <Dylan____> 15.10?
[07:25] <cyborq> ubuntu 15.10 is discontinued
[07:25] <Dylan____> No it isnt
[07:25] <sebsebseb> styles: not yet
[07:25] <Dylan____> Next month isnt ot
[07:25] <sebsebseb> cyborq: it should go end of life at the end of July
[07:25] <sebsebseb> Dylan____: no
[07:25] <Dylan____> My bad
[07:25] <alfatau> Dylan____: well, when possible I'm doing incremental daily backups using rsync onto an external storage. However I've an huge volume containing huge files so I can't use the same backup method. The choice is to keep 2 copies, daily synchronized. HW supporting the huge space needed is too expensive for my company. Also I've to keep that data exposed
[07:25] <alfatau>  through samba in r/w. The only option I found to safely expose it is to keep some few block-based snapshots in order to being able to recover from one of them, even if during daily synchronization with the other copy replicates the eventually corrupted data.
[07:25] <sebsebseb> Dylan____: 9 months support, so end of July
[07:26] <Dylan____> Yeah 9months of support
[07:26] <cyborq> Dylan_: I read in omgubuntu
[07:26] <Dylan____> Lts gets 5 years of support with security etc
[07:26] <Dylan____> So 16.04 will be supported till 2021
[07:26] <sebsebseb> yep
[07:26] <sebsebseb> altough
[07:26] <sebsebseb> that's only Ubuntu
[07:26] <Dylan____> Then 16.10 is another nine months
[07:26] <sebsebseb> itsel
[07:26] <sebsebseb> f
[07:26] <sebsebseb> since Lubuntu Kubuntu and all taht
[07:26] <sebsebseb> only seem to do three years
[07:27] <Dylan____> The other varients only last 3 months
[07:27] <Dylan____> I mean 3 years
[07:27] <sebsebseb> or three yearas of full support even for the LTS
[07:27] <Dylan____> Lts are for like servers arnt they
[07:27] <cyborq> Have anyone familiar with ubuntu mate?
[07:27] <Dylan____> Kind of why?
[07:27] <Dylan____> Im used it before but not much
[07:27] <sebsebseb> Dylan____: LTS is for people who don't want to upgrade every 9 moths or so
[07:27] <Dylan____> Oh year
[07:27] <Dylan____> Haha
[07:27] <sebsebseb> Dylan____: LTS used to be more  for servers and businesses etc
[07:28] <Dylan____> Yeah thsts what i thought
[07:28] <cfhowlett> cyborg, avoid "anyone else ..." question structure.  ask YOUR questions with YOUR details.
[07:28] <sebsebseb> Dylan____: LTS is now more aimed at anyone in general
[07:28] <Dylan____> Yep
[07:28] <cyborq> cfhowlett: ok
[07:28] <Dylan____> How you doing cfhowlett?
[07:28] <sebsebseb> Dylan____: but if you want to keep on  moving along with new stuff,  you either run non LTS versions,   and even possibly development veriosns sometimes
[07:28] <sebsebseb> Dylan____: every relase builds up and up a bit, untill the next LTS really
[07:29] <sebsebseb> Dylan____: now that 16.04 is out, they can move on to the next big thing, which will probably indeed be dropping Xorg and Unity 7 by default and probably from the repos and everything as well, and going to Mir and Unity 8 yep
[07:29] <Dylan____> Yeah
[07:29] <Dylan____> For sure
[07:29] <sebsebseb> 16.10 should bei interesting
[07:29] <sebsebseb> well it better be in  a way, after things I hve read onlien for months now!
[07:30] <Dylan____> They will go for mir and shuttleworth will allow us either unity 7 or 8
[07:30] <cyborq> I use fedora and installed ubuntu this morning(India). It shows that the kernel version is 4.4.0 whereas fedora has 4.4.7
[07:30] <cyborq> How to install kernel 4.4.7 in ubuntu
[07:30] <sebsebseb> Dylan____: to be honest I think they should just drop Unity 7 and Xorg compelty from 16.10 as long as ready enough to replace Xorg and Unity 7 by then
[07:30] <sebsebseb> Dylan____: people who want the old stuff  still can run 16.04
[07:30] <Dylan____> For sure i agree
[07:31] <Dylan____> Cyborg maybe fedora have a kernel like earlier then ubuntu?
[07:31] <Dylan____> Or that just because ubuntu havnt got around to updating kernels idk for sure
[07:32] <Dylan____> I know 14.04.3 last kernel was 3.19
[07:32] <cyborq> Does ubuntu upgrades its kernel in every possible update?
[07:32] <Dylan____> No i think you can upgrade kernel manually
[07:32] <Dylan____> Through synaptic
[07:32] <sebsebseb> cyborq: nope only usually security updates
[07:32] <sebsebseb> cyborq: and they stick to a version
[07:32] <sebsebseb> series
[07:32] <Dylan____> Yea
[07:33] <cyborq> Why ubuntu is not doing like fedora..
[07:33] <sebsebseb> cyborq: Fedora doesn't just give you a later kernel either
[07:33] <sebsebseb> cyborq: in some new series
[07:33] <Dylan____> Im sure u can update the kernel if you want through synaptic
[07:33] <cfhowlett> cyborg if you want fedora, use fedora.  ubuntu is not fedora and there is no good reason why ubuntu should follow fedora.  nor the reverse.
[07:33] <Blue1> sebsebseb: I tried gnome-ubuntu on my server box - which has an nvidia ge force 210 in it -- and it just booted up to a terminal prompt -- I don't know what the default userid/password was.
[07:33] <Dylan____> Fedora is more used for businesses right?
[07:34] <alfatau> Dylan____: do you think there's a better way to solve the problem than lvm thin snapshots?
[07:34] <Dylan____> Not sure
[07:34] <Dylan____> Hmm
[07:34] <sebsebseb> Blue1: was that from Ubuntu server ISO?
[07:34] <sebsebseb> Blue1: that computer
[07:35] <Dylan____> Anyone need some assistance?
[07:35] <rahul_> my optimus nvidia card doens't support ubuntu . Need help
[07:35] <Dylan____> They dropped bumblebee
[07:35] <Blue1> sebsebseb: yes, that was the iso from https://ubuntugnome.org/
[07:35] <sebsebseb> Blue1: oh
[07:35] <Dylan____> Rahul whats the card?
[07:35] <rahul_> nvidia gt 740m
[07:36] <sebsebseb> Blue1: did antyhing graphical work on there?
[07:36] <Guest40958> hi all. my wifi disconnects after 20 min. i need restart computer to connect again
[07:36] <rahul_> with integerated graphics from intel 4400 hd
[07:36] <sebsebseb> Blue1: may need to install propriatry nvida driver some how or try to even
[07:36] <Blue1> sebsebseb: i don't know it booted to a terminal prompt:  gnome-ubuntu:  but I don't know the default userid/password
[07:36] <Dylan____> Look here
[07:36] <Dylan____> http://askubuntu.com/questions/691446/ubuntu-couldnt-detect-nvidia-gt-740m ranul
[07:37] <sebsebseb> Blue1: are you in as root?
[07:37] <Blue1> sebsebseb: what is the default userid/password for the livecd?
[07:37] <sebsebseb> or not I gues not
[07:37] <rahul_> done all those . once broke my display @sebsebseb
[07:37] <sebsebseb> Blue1: you can probably get in to a root prompt from the grub recovery mode anyway
[07:37] <sebsebseb> Blue1: then passwd username and re set the password
[07:38] <rahul_> i successfully installed bumblebee but doesn't work for me . Please help
[07:38] <sebsebseb> Blue1: or sudo passwd username I guess since Ubuntu
[07:38] <Blue1> sebsebseb: well this is off the livecd/try ubuntu -- so I don't know how to go any farther if I don't know what they use for a default.
[07:38] <rahul_> I have done all of that Dylan_
[07:38] <Dylan____> Hmm rahul thats why i hate nvidia drivers
[07:38] <sebsebseb> Blue1: try live and live I guess as username and password
[07:38] <Dylan____> They give you black screens etc
[07:38] <rahul_> yes
[07:38] <rahul_> exactly
[07:38] <Dylan____> Im had that trouble on my nvidia 320m and found to fix it i had to install nvidia 3-40
[07:39] <rahul_> could you help any solution ?
[07:39] <Dylan____> I can try giving you links
[07:39] <sebsebseb> Blue1: or ubuntu and ubuntu
[07:39] <rahul_> Yeah . I tried all of them of ask ubuntu ?
[07:39] <rahul_> !
[07:39] <Blue1> sebsebseb: I think the default userid is ubuntu and the password is blank.  I don't know what they use for a display manager for gnome - but I will give it a try.
[07:39] <sebsebseb> Blue1: GDM Gnome Display  Manger or if not LightDM
[07:39] <rahul_> can you debug forme
[07:40] <rahul_> dmesg ?
[07:40] <Dylan____> Rahul have tou asked on ubuntu forums
[07:40] <rahul_> yes .
[07:40] <rahul_> i had my thread too.
[07:40] <Dylan____> Have you started thread
[07:40] <rahul_> but no one is able to solve this
[07:40] <Dylan____> If so whats it under
[07:40] <rahul_> wait
[07:41] <Dylan____> Lightdm xd
[07:41] <Blue1> okay lightdm makes sense -- I am rebooting off the livecd now on my other box
[07:41] <rahul_> http://askubuntu.com/questions/718081/ubuntu-14-04-nvidia-gt-740-m-drivers-not-working
[07:42] <Dylan____> Rahul no no no
[07:42] <Dylan____> I mean go on to actual ubuntu fourms
[07:42] <rahul_> OK
[07:43] <Dylan____> http://ubuntuforums.org
[07:43] <Dylan____> Make an account make a thread
[07:43] <Dylan____> Under the correct subheading
[07:43] <kopias> im using ubuntu-mate (15.10 upgraded to 16.04) and maybe someone have a link or know where to look: when i hit brighness up (laptop lenovo u550) in text editor i see this character inputed "±"
[07:43] <Dylan____> And you should get some answers
[07:43] <rahul_> isn't askubuntu official one ?
[07:43] <sebsebseb> alfatau: yeah
[07:43] <sebsebseb> alfatau: wrong one
[07:43] <sebsebseb> rahul_: yeah or community
[07:43] <Dylan____> Not really people would ask for answers on ubuntufourms
[07:44] <sebsebseb> rahul_: that's like help pages, but actsaul forum can be better
[07:44] <Dylan____> I find answers more easy on the ubuntu fourms
[07:44] <Dylan____> Cause people might have same problem as you
[07:44] <rahul_> OK Thanks sebsebseb and Dylan__
[07:44] <rahul_> Nice talking to you
[07:44] <Dylan____> Post the fourm under hardware i suppose
[07:44] <Dylan____> If its a graphic card rigjt sebsebseb
[07:45] <Dylan____> Or general help?
[07:45] <sebsebseb> I don't use the forum
[07:45] <Dylan____> Ohh pl
[07:45] <Dylan____> Ok
[07:45] <Dylan____> I use the fourms
[07:45] <Dylan____> Just post it under hardware
[07:45] <Dylan____> Should find someone tomorrow or in a day whow ill respond
[07:45] <sebsebseb> rahul_: yep should get quite a quick response and the more detail  you put the better usually
[07:46] <kopias> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hal-info/+bug/327707 - i have this but for lenovo u580
[07:47] <Dylan____> Probs got somthign do with graphics card kopias
[07:47] <kopias> *u550
[07:47] <Dylan____> If the keys wint work
[07:47] <wafflejock> oooo new Gnome upgrade went pretty smooth so far it looks like, got an error about mysql not upgrading properly apparently I'm still on 5.7 instead of 7.x it was trying to upgrade to but that was the only error I saw
[07:47] <kopias> Dylan____, there is a solution in this bug raport will try that
[07:48] <Dylan____> Ok
[07:48] <Blue1> sebsebseb: the default userid/pass for gnome-ubuntu is NOT ubuntu then a return - do you know what it might be?
[07:49] <Dylan____> Quick notice kopias that bug report
[07:49] <sebsebseb> Blue1: no but may say on there site some where
[07:49] <Dylan____> Thats for jaunty
[07:49] <sebsebseb> Blue1: and I suggeted live and live earlier, and ubuntu and ubuntu
[07:49] <Dylan____> Not for current versions of ubuntu
[07:49] <sebsebseb> Blue1: maybe gnoe and gnme
[07:49] <Dylan____> Jaunty is outdated
[07:49] <Dylan____> way outdated
[07:49] <sebsebseb> Blue1: I don't think there should be a password really etc
[07:50] <Dylan____> Can i ask why java doesnt show up in new software center
[07:50] <sebsebseb> Jaunty was an ok release
[07:50] <sebsebseb> !java
[07:50] <Blue1> sebsebseb: usually it's ubuntu and return but that didn't work
[07:51] <Dylan____> So blie
[07:51] <Dylan____> Whats wrong blue1?
[07:51] <majnoon> i think did something wrong setting up virtualhosts
[07:51] <majnoon> majnoon.ga no work BUT majnoon.ga/majnoon.ga DOES
[07:51] <majnoon> here my virtualhost http://pastebin.com/AsmwiZNN
[07:52] <Dylan____> Majnoon.ga displays something about ubuntu
[07:53] <Dylan____> Brb shower
[07:53] <cage_raphel> Hello.. i recently upgraded to Ubu 16.04 and since then there has been no sound when i play video / music.. pls help
[07:54] <sebsebseb> cage_raphel: and you looked inteh sound setting?
[07:55] <kopias> btw. i had the best experience upgrading to 16 :]
[07:58] <maro> what project in launchpad is the normal ubuntu desktop installer?
[07:58] <maro> ubuntu-express?
[07:58] <tosate> Hi there, my virtual server running Ubuntu shows some /usr/bin/php5-cgi processes which consume a lot of cpu.
[07:58] <sebsebseb> maro: what d o you mean? Launchpad is a web thing
[07:59] <wuchenghui> 怎么用啊
[07:59] <wuchenghui> 直接打字就可以吗
[07:59] <tosate> I have no idea what's going on. netstat shows a lot of connection from a Russian and a Chinese IP address.
[07:59] <tosate> Any suggestions?
[08:00] <sebsebseb> tosate: yep the spy agencies are after you :d, joking :)
[08:00] <maro> @sebsebseb i mean in which project in launchpad to i report or look for bugs in the installer :)
[08:00] <wuchenghui> join #linuxba
[08:00] <baizon> tosate: thats normal, people are scanning for vulnerabilities
[08:01] <sebsebseb> !bugs maro
[08:01] <baizon> tosate: if you use old software, they can be abused, so you get hacked
[08:01] <sebsebseb> !bug
[08:01] <maro> !bugs
[08:02] <Blue1> sebsebseb: a cold boot off the gnome-ubuntu livecd worked on my server box with the nvidia card.
[08:02] <sebsebseb> Blue1: a cold boot as in?
[08:02] <tosate> baizon: how can I tell that I am being hacked?
[08:04] <sebsebseb> Blue1: if it works in the Live session
[08:04] <tosate> I can only see http connections in netstat. If they would use the server for sending SPAM, there should be SMTP connections, right?
[08:04] <sebsebseb> Blue1: from Live Media
[08:04] <sebsebseb> Blue1: if you install from that clean  install, should work  on a install as wel
[08:04] <baizon> tosate: check logs
[08:04] <baizon> tosate: check your logs for suspicious activities
[08:05] <sebsebseb> from baizon :d
[08:07] <tosate> baizon: what would you consider as a suspicious activity?
[08:07] <baizon> tosate: someone logging in, programs doing some weired stuff
[08:08] <lotuspsychje> tosate: what ubuntu version is this, and what services are you running?
[08:08] <tosate> baizon: someone logging in would be visible in /var/log/auth.log
[08:08] <wafflejock> tosate: using fail2ban can help to block unwanted requests against the server by default pretty sure it just watches auth log for bad login attempts and uses the iptables to filter certain IPs for a set time (all set through config)
[08:09] <wafflejock> tosate: you can configure it to parse other log files though with your own parsing rules it's not terribly complicated if you want something better tuned to monitor and block undesireables
[08:10] <wafflejock> tosate: would probably check the web server access logs too to see which file is being hit
[08:11] <wafflejock> tosate: you also may consider profiling on the server to get some cachegrind files that show what it's spending CPU time on in the PHP process
[08:11] <tosate> Ubuntu 12.04.5 LTS running plesk with apache2, courir, qmail, ssh
[08:11] <wafflejock> tosate: would use xdebug for that
[08:11] <lotuspsychje> tosate: you keep your system up to date asap also?
[08:11] <tosate> lotuspsychje: I do
[08:12] <lotuspsychje> !info fail2ban | tosate suggested by wafflejock
[08:13] <tosate> ok, thank you! I will try fail2ban
[08:13] <lotuspsychje> tosate: a deeper scan with rkhunter, clamav and snort as intrusion detector might be good idea also perhaps
[08:13] <lotuspsychje> !security | tosate
[08:13] <ubuntunoob> hello world! I've tried to enable pam_tty_audit in 16.04, but # aureport --tty tells me 'no events' (tried reboot too). I've tried to add 'session   required     pam_tty_audit.so enable=*' to /etc/pam.d/login and /etc/pam.conf . What am I doing wrong?
[08:15] <cage_raphel> Hello.. i recently upgraded to Ubu 16.04 and since then there has been no sound via HDMI output.
[08:16] <lotuspsychje> cage_raphel: wich graphics card and driver are you on?
[08:16] <cage_raphel> lotuspsychje, how do i check that ?
[08:16] <lotuspsychje> cage_raphel: sudo lshw -C video
[08:17] <cage_raphel> lotuspsychje, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/15996995/
[08:18] <lotuspsychje> cage_raphel: ok did you try a pulseaudio restart?
[08:18] <cage_raphel> lotuspsychje,  i did not
[08:19] <lotuspsychje> cage_raphel: can you try a sudo service pulseaudio restart
[08:19] <cage_raphel> lotuspsychje, done
[08:20] <lotuspsychje> cage_raphel: check your sound now?
[08:21] <delikt_> hi guys :) sometimes if i start a game (sometimes randomly) my mouse (razer naga epic) stucks - if i typing xsetpointer -l | grep Pointer in the terminal my mouse isnt there anymore... had anyone a idea why my mouse randomly get unplugged?
[08:21] <cage_raphel> lotuspsychje, when i try to play a video on youtube there is no sound, however when i test sound via settings.. i get a front left and a front right thro the tv speaker output
[08:22] <lotuspsychje> cage_raphel: can you play sound on vlc?
[08:22] <cage_raphel> lotuspsychje, let me check
[08:23] <iSlayWyverns> sudo sed -i 's/UTC=yes/UTC=no/' /etc/default/rcS - This would usually fix my time problem with Ubuntu/Windows (at least on 14.04) but now it doesn't... 'cause the file doesn't contain a UTC attribute
[08:24] <cage_raphel> lotuspsychje, i dont have a vlc. i have rythm box and videos.. and i am not getting any sound if i play music via rythmbox
[08:24] <lotuspsychje> !sound | cage_raphel try all these steps
[08:24] <lotuspsychje> cage_raphel: check also your dmesg and syslog for any sound related issues
[08:25] <cage_raphel> lotuspsychje, how do i check dmesu and syslog?
[08:26] <lotuspsychje> cage_raphel: with the logviewer icon, or manual browse to /var/log/..
[08:27] <cage_raphel> lotuspsychje, ok thank you
[08:27] <lotuspsychje> cage_raphel: you can share the pastebin, ill have a look if you want
[08:27] <deraffenarsch> hey
[08:27] <deraffenarsch> IS IT OUT????????????
[08:27] <lotuspsychje> deraffenarsch: yes
[08:27] <deraffenarsch> IT IS OUT!!!!!!! YES!
[08:27] <lotuspsychje> deraffenarsch: ubuntu.com
[08:27] <deraffenarsch> 16.04
[08:28] <deraffenarsch> Somebody tested?
[08:28] <lotuspsychje> deraffenarsch: we all did
[08:28] <Ben64> nope, nobody tried it yet
[08:28] <deraffenarsch> Or should I still use 14.04?
[08:28] <lotuspsychje> deraffenarsch: your choice
[08:28] <akhil> Hi guys and gals. I am having a problem with 16.04. Black screen on suspend. Anyone else facing the same trouble?
[08:28] <cfhowlett> deraffenarsch, your machine your choice
[08:28] <delikt_> deraffenarsch, hast du ne amd graka?
[08:28] <Ben64> if you're on 14.04, you should stick with it until 16.04.1, as that is when the upgrade will show
[08:28] <deraffenarsch> how long is 14.04 SUPORTED!!!!!!!!!!!!???????????
[08:28] <iSlayWyverns> How do I check what Java packages I've got install?
[08:28] <deraffenarsch> delikt_: nein no
[08:28] <lotuspsychje> !english | delikt_
[08:28] <Ben64> deraffenarsch: stop yelling...
[08:28] <cfhowlett> deraffenarsch, drop the !!! please
[08:28] <deraffenarsch> ok
[08:29] <deraffenarsch> i try my best lovers
[08:29] <iSlayWyverns> nevermind, got synaptic
[08:29] <cage_raphel> lotuspsychje, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/15997176/
[08:29] <delikt_> deraffenarsch, dann hast du zumindest kein problem mit den neuen amdgpu treiber
[08:30] <deraffenarsch> machen die neue  probleme?
[08:30] <deraffenarsch> Defaultti:
[08:30] <deraffenarsch> delikt_:
[08:30] <lotuspsychje> cage_raphel: no, pastebin /var/log/syslog or /var/log/dmesg
[08:30] <delikt_> ohh sorry
[08:30] <delikt_> i will write english with my german dude ^
[08:30] <cfhowlett> do so in a private channel please, delikt_
[08:30] <cage_raphel> lotuspsychje,  so in the terminal do i type cd /var/log/syslog ??
[08:31] <lotuspsychje> cage_raphel: syslog is a file
[08:31] <lotuspsychje> cage_raphel: you can cd to /var/log
[08:31] <delikt_> hi guys :) sometimes if i start a game (sometimes randomly) my mouse (razer naga epic) stucks - if i typing xsetpointer -l | grep Pointer in the terminal my mouse isnt there anymore... had anyone a idea why my mouse randomly get unplugged?
[08:31] <deraffenarsch> nous peuvons parler francais aussi.-
[08:31] <lotuspsychje> !fr | deraffenarsch
[08:31] <akhil> Hi all. I am having a problem with the suspend on 16.04. Screen immediately blanks out. Does not even go into suspend and does not respond.
[08:31] <deraffenarsch> i can speak all lanmguages lotuspsychje
[08:32] <cfhowlett> deraffenarsch, english only in this channel.  please respect the rules or play elsewhere
[08:32] <deraffenarsch> yes :)
[08:32] <deraffenarsch> can my nickname STAY german?
[08:32] <lotuspsychje> deraffenarsch: please dont use this channel for non-support chitchat
[08:32] <Kiwikaki> yep
[08:32] <cage_raphel> lotuspsychje, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/15997214/
[08:32] <hari_> hall sir.  i am getting while updating my system via synaptic package manager.  the error is : W: http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/dists/stable/Release.gpg: Signature by key 4CCA1EAF950CEE4AB83976DCA040830F7FAC5991 uses weak digest algorithm (SHA1)
[08:33] <deraffenarsch> great i should better not translate my nick, it would be something like "themonkeyass"
[08:33] <akhil> cfhowlett: Any idea on the suspend black screen problem?
[08:33] <lotuspsychje> cage_raphel: lol no, pastebin syslog now
[08:33] <lotuspsychje> cage_raphel: you need to open syslog or dmesg with an editor
[08:33] <cfhowlett> none, akhil.  that's why I did not comment on it    :)
[08:34] <SupaYoshi> Heya
[08:34] <majnoon> i think did something wrong setting up virtualhosts
[08:34] <majnoon> majnoon.ga no work BUT majnoon.ga/majnoon.ga DOES
[08:34] <cage_raphel> lotuspsychje,  i am so sorry.. i am totallyt new to this.. how do i open syslong or dmesg thro a editior?
[08:34] <majnoon> here my virtualhost http://pastebin.com/AsmwiZNN
[08:34] <delikt_> nobody who had a similar problem or a idea how to fix it?
[08:34] <lotuspsychje> !guidelines | deraffenarsch perhaps you should start here
[08:34] <akhil> cfhowlett: Oh! :)
[08:34] <SupaYoshi> I have a VPS with Ubuntu Server, and am running a few websites on it. The host says I exceed theyre CPU load policy / CPU abuse, according to them the values are as following: We allow a CPU load average of no more than 0.9 constant and bursts up to 2. You regularly exceed this.
[08:34] <akhil> I was wondering if it was to do with the amd GPU
[08:34] <lotuspsychje> cage_raphel: nano syslog or vi
[08:35] <hari_> any one there to answer to my question with regard to synaptic manager showing error as i have shown above
[08:35] <SupaYoshi> Should I load less websites on this VPS? or do you think I should look for another VPS host?
[08:35] <lotuspsychje> cage_raphel: if you have GUI, you can browse to the file with nautilus also
[08:36] <cage_raphel> lotuspsychje, when i type nano syslog , i get a blank terminal screen with a few controls at the bottom
[08:37] <lotuspsychje> cage_raphel: browse to the file manually with nautilus
[08:37] <ayush__> sad life
[08:37] <lotuspsychje> SupaYoshi: perhaps the #ubuntu-server guys can assist you better?
[08:38] <lotuspsychje> ayush__: can we help you?
[08:38] <ayush__> was just testing
[08:38] <ayush__> :)
[08:38] <cage_raphel> lotus .. so what is the path to access the syslog thro nautilus
[08:38] <SupaYoshi> ty
[08:38] <cage_raphel> lotuspsychje,  .. so what is the path to access the syslog thro nautilus
[08:38] <lotuspsychje> cage_raphel: just told you...scroll above
[08:39] <ayush__> So ......
[08:39] <ayush__> am new to this
[08:39] <ayush__> ....
[08:39] <lotuspsychje> !support | ayush__
[08:39] <rahul_> Not able to get help ! All have same issues Dylan__
[08:39] <lotuspsychje> ayush__: you can ask ubuntu questions here to get them solved
[08:39] <cfhowlett> !ask | ayush__,
[08:39] <ayush__> ohh nice
[08:40] <cage_raphel> lotuspsychje, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/15997345/
[08:40] <lotuspsychje> cage_raphel: see you can! give me a min :p
[08:40] <rahul_> anybody installed nvidia drivers on ubuntu 14.04 lts
[08:41] <ayush__> can i update ubuntu 15.04 to 15.10 through usb
[08:41] <ayush__> ?
[08:41] <Ben64> rahul_: ask your actual question
[08:41] <cage_raphel> lotuspsychje,  thank u .. well.. i am trying .. and i am not gonna quit!! lol !! :)
[08:41] <cfhowlett> ayush__, you can
[08:41] <lotuspsychje> cage_raphel: uname -a please?
[08:41] <rahul_> Not able to run nvidia gt 740m drivers on ubuntu 14.04
[08:42] <rahul_> I mean they are installed
[08:42] <rahul_> not able to access my card !
[08:42] <cage_raphel> lotuspsychje, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/15997380/
[08:42] <rahul_> My card has optimus technology  which works awesome with windows sadly not with ubuntu !
[08:42] <ayush__> !patience
[08:43] <Cloudblow> Hi, anyone have blackscreen/or solution with nvidia drivers and ubuntu 16.04?
[08:43] <rahul_> Same goes for me Cloudblow
[08:44] <lotuspsychje> cage_raphel: ok cant see anything unusual, can you test a liveusb 16.04 and test sound there?
[08:44] <lotuspsychje> rahul_: wich drivers did you test?
[08:44] <Cloudblow> rahul_:  have you find any solution?
[08:44] <Ben64> Cloudblow: what video card(s) do you have
[08:44] <cage_raphel> lotuspsychje, live usb? i was using 15.10.. i just got an upgrade to 16.04.. and thats when all these issues began
[08:44] <rahul_> No @Cloudblow All I had to do is to :( purge my drivers
[08:44] <Cloudblow> Ben64: nvidia geforce 750m
[08:44] <cage_raphel> lotuspsychje, do u think its a good idea to downgrade?? if yes, how can we do it ?
[08:45] <lotuspsychje> cage_raphel: test a 16.04 liveusb, and test sound there
[08:45] <Ben64> well good luck, i don't do optimus
[08:45] <lotuspsychje> cage_raphel: you cant downgrade
[08:45] <rahul_> nvidia-352 @lotus
[08:45] <lotuspsychje> rahul_: tested the -updates also?
[08:45] <rahul_> Yup
[08:45] <Cloudblow> I try yet few version of drivers, 361,364,352,340..
[08:46] <lotuspsychje> rahul_: got nvidia-prime installed?
[08:46] <rahul_> yes  ! that too gave me black screen
[08:46] <lotuspsychje> rahul_: nouveau working?
[08:46] <rahul_> yes !
[08:46] <cage_raphel> lotuspsychje, test spund is working fine.. how do i test a live usb ?
[08:47] <lotuspsychje> !usb | cage_raphel
[08:47] <Cloudblow> noeveau for me don't work (maybe I don't know how to user it)
[08:47] <cage_raphel> lotuspsychje,  thanks mate
[08:47] <rahul_> Cloudblow you are using now !
[08:48] <flux242> 16.04 still has python2.7 dependency because of samba. Shame
[08:48] <lotuspsychje> rahul_: tested 16.04 on your card?
[08:48] <rahul_> no not yet !
[08:48] <rahul_> Cloudblow did
[08:48] <lotuspsychje> rahul_: did it work before on 14.04?
[08:48] <kim__> hello
[08:48] <rahul_> no never worked for me !
[08:48] <serveradmin> hey any one hear is a game dev
[08:49] <lotuspsychje> rahul_: if you tested all nvidia drivers, perhaps file a bug or try 16.04?
[08:49] <rahul_> OK :) Thanks !
[08:52] <Cloudblow> I read few people saying this bug is fixed with a sync pack to kernel linux 4.5, it is true?
[08:52] <Ben64> probably not
[08:53] <ikonia> sync pack to kernel ?
[08:53] <grvrulz> identify PIKACHU
[08:53] <cfhowlett> grvrulz, in the freenode tab not here please
[08:54] <grvrulz> Sorry, Polari is behaving a bit starange.
[08:54] <sits> Are the xenial release notes still being updated?
[08:58] <quaker_> hi everyone
[08:58] <mcphail> On 16.04 desktop, can snaps only be installed locally (using "snap install blah") rather than from the store (using "snappy install blah")? I'd rather do the latter, for updates etc
[09:02] <delikt_> hi guys :) sometimes if i start a game (sometimes randomly) my mouse (razer naga epic) stucks - if i typing xsetpointer -l | grep Pointer in the terminal my mouse isnt there anymore... had anyone a idea why my mouse randomly get unplugged?
[09:03] <nomic> delikt_  post message on ubuntu forums http://ubuntuforums.org/
[09:03] <nomic> this place isn't always that busy
[09:08] <lukas1321> hello guys :) does ubuntu 16.04 support retina macbook pros?
[09:09] <Desu> lukas1321: to some extent, yes
[09:09] <lotuspsychje> lukas1321: you could try a liveusb
[09:10] <Desu> macbooks tend to be a giant pain though
[09:11] <lotuspsychje> mcphail: can snapcraft and snapcraft-examples help you?
[09:15] <Desu> delikt_: laptop?
[09:16] <delikt_> Desu, nope desktop with an amd card - i started LoL a minute ago and it stuck again
[09:17] <delikt_> Linux delikt-M5810 4.4.0-21-generic #37-Ubuntu SMP Mon Apr 18 18:33:37 UTC 2016 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[09:17] <mcphail> lotuspsychje: I'm more interested in installing snaps than making them. I'd really like to have an owncloud snap which was kept up to date from the store
[09:18] <lotuspsychje> mcphail: ah ok, not really sure yet how it all works :p
[09:18] <delikt_> Desu, i had the problem also in 14.04 - i switched to Linux Mint 17.x and there i dont had the problem
[09:20] <mcphail> lotuspsychje: it'll be nice when it does work or is documented :)
[09:20] <delikt_> haha... pressed the start button now in LoL again stuck
[09:22] <delikt_> unplug the mouse and plugin fix this but not always :P
[09:24] <thinky> hi there
[09:25] <EriC^^> hello
[09:25] <thinky> i installed ubuntu 16.04 but gnome classic fallback seems not working good
[09:25] <thinky> it doesnt show icons when i drag to desktop. how can i fix that?
[09:25] <lotuspsychje> mcphail: did you check man snap?
[09:26] <mcphail> lotuspsychje: yes - the man page is a real mess, and only seems to cover local installs. Snappy core uses "snappy" instead of "snap" to install from the store. The "snappy" package on Ubuntu Desktop seems to be a media player
[09:26] <thinky> and i cannot install google chrome. it says this software may contain non free components
[09:26] <firsm> hi, where can find the minimal CD with the alternate installer for 16.04?
[09:27] <cfhowlett> thinky, your choice
[09:27] <thinky> what s my choice?
[09:27] <lotuspsychje> mcphail: and the installed snap packages work on both unity7 and 8?
[09:27] <DJones> firsm: Thats not existed for a few years, I think the only way is to use the minimal iso and then add the packages you want
[09:27] <cfhowlett> install chrome or not, thinky
[09:27] <mcphail> lotuspsychje: they should do, but you have the security issues of X under Unity7
[09:27] <thinky> cfhowlett: it doesnt install. i wanna install but 16.06 software center doesnt install it
[09:28] <lotuspsychje> mcphail: yeah readed that this morning
[09:28] <thinky> 16.04
[09:28] <firsm> DJones: okay, thanks
[09:29] <hep7> i get this error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15998240/
[09:29] <lotuspsychje> mcphail: so whats the advantage of installing a package the snap way instead of unity8's app store?
[09:29] <ikonia> hep7: you're launching nautlus as root - but you have a userspace mount
[09:29] <hep7> ikonia: not sure what that means
[09:30] <ikonia> hep7: the whole point of a userspace mount is it's for your user only, so launching it as root wont be able to "interact" with that mount
[09:30] <hep7> ikonia: hidden files don't "hide"
[09:30] <thinky> why doesnt it show terminal icon on desktop when i drag to desktop?
[09:30] <ikonia> hep7: that error has nothing to do with that
[09:31] <hep7> ikonia: yesterday someone suggested that i should run it from command line and see what errors i would get
[09:31] <mcphail> lotuspsychje: well, I'm not running unity8...
[09:31] <ikonia> hep7: I guess the first question is "why are you running it with sudo"
[09:31] <dp_> \quit
[09:31] <hep7> ikonia: well i didn't get any errors runing wihout sudo
[09:32] <lotuspsychje> mcphail: ok
[09:32] <EriC^^> hep7: gksu is for sudo + gui apps
[09:32] <ikonia> hep7: sudo changes a lot of things - why are you running it with sudo ?
[09:32] <EriC^^> gksu nautilus
[09:32] <SP33D> Hello my Frinds big ALERT!! I upgraded 2 boxes 1 without fails and the secund is in accessable via ssh but i got a console that works
[09:32] <ikonia> EriC^^: thats all changed now with policy kit, still not a good solution though
[09:32] <hep7> ikonia: just answered you
[09:32] <ice9> I upgraded from 15.10 to 16.04, sometimes audio devices disappear from the sound settings, I have reinstalled alsamixer alsautils and unity-desktop but it is still happening;  is there anything I should do?
[09:32] <SP33D> so the main problem is even with ssh -vvvvv i dont know why i have no access any more and that with key and public auth
[09:33] <ikonia> hep7: no, you didn't you said you don't get any errors without sudo - that doesn't explain why you are running with sudio
[09:33] <hep7> ikonia: no one knows here what is the problem
[09:33] <ikonia> sudo
[09:33] <ikonia> hep7: you have no idea if people know or not, you've just posted a random error message that is mostly caused by the use of sudo
[09:33] <hep7> ikonia: i don't know running with sudo gave the errors
[09:33] <SP33D> i checked via console the .ssh/authoirized_keys file and all and all looks ok did reset password via console but still no ssh access
[09:33] <ikonia> hep7: WHY are you running it with sudo
[09:34] <hep7> ikonia: i have been asking this question more or less 5 times now
[09:34] <ikonia> hep7: and yet you're still not telling me why you are running it with sudo
[09:34] <ikonia> SP33D: what does the security log on the server show
[09:34] <hep7> ikonia: is that important ?
[09:34] <ikonia> hep7: yes, very
[09:34] <hep7> ikonia: i just did, that is it
[09:34] <ikonia> hep7: actually - I'm not interested any more, it shouldn't be this much effort to help someone
[09:35] <cfhowlett> hep7, Ms Cleo isn't here anymore.  you don't answer questions to diagnose problems, you don't get answers to problems
[09:35] <hep7> cfhowlett: who is cleo?
[09:36] <thinky> http://imgur.com/q2gOtp7
[09:36] <hep7> tgm4883: you are here?
[09:37] <hep7> who is the boss here?
[09:37] <cfhowlett> thinky, not there prevents you from installing.  it's just advisory
[09:37] <hep7> or manager
[09:37] <thinky> cant install google chrome
[09:37] <thinky> cfhowlett: i click on install but it doesnt install
[09:37] <ikonia> hep7: I'm an operator
[09:37] <quench> hmmm, what the frig? > www.zdnet.com/article/linux-expert-matthew-garrett-ubuntu-16-04s-new-snap-format-is-a-security-risk
[09:37] <ikonia> hep7: you can join #ubuntu-ops if you want to talk to the team
[09:38] <cfhowlett> thinky, OK.  try the command line option so we can capture the error: shutdown the software center.  then:     sudo apt install google-chrome-stable.
[09:38] <vooze> Trying to run screenfetch from 16.04 i get the follow error: (process:31528): dconf-CRITICAL **: unable to create file '/home/vooze/.cache/dconf/user': Permission denied.  dconf will not work properly. -- What could cause this?
[09:38] <hep7> ikonia: ok, people are more "qualified" there?
[09:38] <ikonia> hep7: in what respected qualified ?
[09:38] <ikonia> hep7: #ubuntu-ops is for the team who run the channel
[09:38] <hep7> ikonia: i just want my problem solved
[09:38] <ikonia> hep7: your attitude is what's stopping that,
[09:39] <hep7> ikonia: i disagree
[09:39] <hep7> ikonia: i don't think you read what i said above
[09:39] <ikonia> hep7: well, I was going to help you, then I stopped, so it's pretty hard to disagree
[09:39] <thinky> cfhowlett: Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done E: Unable to locate package google-chrome-stable
[09:39] <ikonia> vooze: look at the permissions on that directory
[09:39] <hep7> ikonia: yes am aware there are lots of primadonnas here
[09:40] <cfhowlett> thinky do this: apt-cache policy google-chrome-stable | nc termbin.com 9999
[09:40] <ikonia> hep7: and this is the attitude I'm talking about
[09:40] <cfhowlett> that will return a url. paste the url here
[09:40] <thinky> Use netcat.
[09:41] <hep7> ikonia: don't you see the irony?!
[09:41] <SP33D> not allowed because not listed in AllowUsers
[09:41] <hep7> ikonia: ok back to the problem
[09:41] <thinky> cfhowlett: it returned with ` Use netcat`
[09:41] <ikonia> hep7: nope, if you want help, ask a clear question and work with people to work through the problem,
[09:41] <SP33D> thats the fail @ikonia
[09:41] <ikonia> hep7: you may get a better response that way
[09:41] <ikonia> SP33D: what is ?
[09:41] <hep7> ikonia: my hidden files show up every time i relaunch nautilus
[09:42] <SP33D> how can that be the auth.log tells me on the upgraded box that root is now "not allowed because not listed in AllowUsers"
[09:42] <ikonia> hep7: I'm not interested in your problem
[09:42] <vooze> ikonia: drwx------ 51 vooze vooze   4096 Apr 22 18:40 .cache/ - should it be something else?
[09:42] <SP33D> befor it worked
[09:42] <zjh> gyihijijisnjjjhuujubuigivyhvhvhvdhvdyhbu
[09:42] <zjh> jhbjb
[09:42] <ikonia> SP33D: what is the EXACT command you are using to ssh
[09:42] <zjh> vgg
[09:42] <cfhowlett> thinky, OK, this then:   more /etc/apt/sources.list | grep partner.
[09:42] <ikonia> SP33D: and please, the exact command
[09:42] <hep7> ikonia: then you should not have responded in the first place
[09:42] <SP33D> ssh root@host
[09:42] <ikonia> hep7: I was interested at that time and willing to help
[09:42] <ikonia> SP33D: root is not enabled on ubuntu
[09:42] <zjh> ghfgcjgcghggxvhg
[09:42] <ikonia> zjh: stop that please
[09:42] <SP33D> using key in config
[09:42] <lotuspsychje> zjh: stop that please
[09:42] <thinky> cfhowlett: ## 'partner' repository. # deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu xenial partner # deb-src http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu xenial partner
[09:43] <SP33D> it was enabled on ubuntu server install
[09:43] <ikonia> SP33D: a.) root is disabled as a user b.) root login for ssh is disabled by default
[09:43] <zjh> sorry, my son is typing
[09:43] <cfhowlett> thinky, OK you do have the partner repos enabled
[09:43] <hep7> ikonia: i don't think you would know the answer anyway, but thanks.
[09:43] <cfhowlett> zjh, false.  you  have done this before.  knock it off.
[09:43] <ikonia> SP33D: ok - so what is the auth log currently showing
[09:43] <thinky> again sudo apt-get install google-chrome-stable ?
[09:43] <cfhowlett> thinky, wait
[09:43] <ikonia> hep7: I didn't know the answer, thats why I wanted to know the info I was asking for to work it through to solution
[09:43] <SP33D> that user root is noit in allowedusers
[09:43] <thinky> ok
[09:43] <ikonia> SP33D: ok - so what does your ssh server config show ?
[09:44] <ikonia> is root in the allowed list ?
[09:44] <SP33D> i will fix that with editing the ssh config but the do release upgrade dont told me it changed that
[09:44] <ikonia> SP33D: it's not going to list every change it makes
[09:44] <SP33D> thats the amazing many people will get locked out
[09:44] <hep7> anyone else could answer my question?
[09:44] <cfhowlett> thinky, try that yes and note errors
[09:44] <ikonia> SP33D: no they won't, as you shouldn't be ssh'ing as root
[09:44] <thinky> cfhowlett: Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done E: Unable to locate package google-chrome-stable
[09:44] <SP33D> Many providers install ubuntu with user root
[09:45] <cfhowlett> thinky, lsb_release -d
[09:45] <SP33D> and even my private users with sodo rights are not allowed by same error not allowed because not listed in AllowUsers
[09:45] <ikonia> SP33D: right - and they will support it for you, or you should create non-privileged users
[09:45] <SP33D> i cant log in even with the none previliged user anymore
[09:45] <thinky> cfhowlett: Description:	Ubuntu 16.04 LTS
[09:45] <ikonia> SP33D: what, so non-privileged users can't login either
[09:45] <SP33D> but thx i found the fail
[09:45] <ikonia> SP33D: what is the exact issue amd what have you found
[09:46] <SP33D> i need to fix the sshd config after upgrade
[09:46] <ikonia> SP33D: that won't stop non-privileged users
[09:46] <ikonia> SP33D: that is something different,
[09:46] <xtr33> Hi guys, does anyone have experience with connecting ps4 controller to gnome 10.04 over bluetooth?
[09:46] <SP33D> Upgrade destroys user permissions
[09:46] <ikonia> SP33D: no it doesn't
[09:46] <ikonia> SP33D: what user permissions has it destroyed
[09:46] <SP33D> it did belive me
[09:46] <ikonia> SP33D: what user permissions has it destroyed
[09:46] <Ben64> xtr33: 10.04 is dead
[09:47] <SP33D> the unpriviliged sudo user cant login with password any more even if it is right because not allowed in sshd config not allowed because not listed in AllowUsers rule any more
[09:47] <xtr33> ben64: what do you mean by dead?
[09:47] <MonkeyDust> xtr33  upgrade first, then ask again
[09:47] <ikonia> SP33D: what permissions has it changed
[09:47] <Ben64> xtr33: no longer supported. it has ceased to be
[09:47] <cfhowlett> !eol | Extreme
[09:47] <SP33D> now need to readd unpriviliged user and root again to the sshd config
[09:47] <SP33D> it has rewriten without asking sshd.conf
[09:48] <ikonia> there is no such file as sshd.conf
[09:48] <xtr33> Sorry, 16.04 LTS 64-bit
[09:48] <ikonia> SP33D: exactly what filel are you looking at (full path)
[09:48] <SP33D> wait i get you the exact file but i know you know the conf file your self better
[09:48] <thinky> is that for me cfhowlett ?
[09:48] <xtr33> I have that installed Ben64
[09:48] <ikonia> SP33D: can you please pastebin /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[09:48] <ikonia> SP33D: lets have a look at what is there now please
[09:49] <cfhowlett> thinky, no. google-chrome-stable is in the main repository and should work with no issue.  No idea why it is failing you.
[09:49] <Gard> irc.rizon.net
[09:49] <xtr33> ben64:  I have 16.04 installed.  Would like to use p34 controller over bluetooth can you help?
[09:50] <Ben64> xtr33: pair it, done
[09:50] <xtr33> *ps4
[09:50] <mlvmhn> how do i install Lubuntu using terminal?
[09:50] <ikonia> mlvmhn: using terminal ?
[09:50] <cfhowlett> mlvmhn, sudo apt install lubuntu-desktop
[09:50] <ikonia> ahh the desktop
[09:51] <SP33D> hmmm /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[09:51] <ikonia> SP33D: please pastebin that file
[09:51] <SP33D> is the file i think thats causing that
[09:51] <ikonia> lets take a look at it
[09:51] <mlvmhn> yes, i am installing Ubuntu 16.04 on my laptop
[09:52] <ikonia> mlvmhn: why not install lubuntu if you want the lubuntu desktop
[09:52] <mlvmhn> ikonia: i want to test the performance on my laptop first
[09:52] <thinky> cfhowlett:  when i make sudo apt-get update see this : http://paste.ubuntu.com/15998739/
[09:52] <SP33D> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/ArfKjhEW/
[09:53] <thinky> i think there are some errors
[09:53] <thinky> fatal errors
[09:53] <thinky> because when i restarted pc it warned me to report due to some errors
[09:53] <cfhowlett> thinky  ... *** NOW *** you tell us this?!
[09:53] <MonkeyDust> thinky  i guess they are appArmor errors
[09:53] <ikonia> SP33D: have you modified that file
[09:54] <ikonia> thinky: I warned you before about not sharing information
[09:54] <ikonia> thinky: this will be the final warning you get about wasting peoples time not giving the full information
[09:54] <cfhowlett> thinky, OK, you have some issues that have nothing to do with chrome.  fix the issues first
[09:54] <SP33D> i have not modifyed it but it is the standrt file
[09:54] <thinky> cfhowlett: sorry i didnt think it s related with google chrome
[09:54] <SP33D> so nothing private is in
[09:54] <ikonia> SP33D: interesting two PermitRoot entries
[09:54] <ikonia> SP33D: there is nothing in that file that would stop non-privileged users from logging in
[09:54] <thinky> ikonia: look  i dont hide anything !
[09:54] <xtr33> ben64:  I have enabled bluetooth, set controller to pair mode, it picks up wireless controller but says not set up because it wants a pin which I can't find online
[09:54] <ikonia> SP33D: and to be honest - it should allow root
[09:54] <thinky> stop this
[09:55] <ikonia> thinky: you did not tell people about the fatal errors
[09:55] <SP33D> ikonia i think i need to add explicit AllowUsers root now
[09:55] <ikonia> SP33D: you really shouldn't
[09:55] <thinky> ikonia: look i dont keep that secret as state confidental
[09:55] <thinky> stop this warning to me
[09:55] <Ben64> xtr33: have you tried 0000
[09:55] <thinky> it just happened after restart
[09:55] <cfhowlett> thinky, calm down.
[09:55] <SP33D> maybe diffrent with new sshd version
[09:55] <xtr33> yes
[09:55] <cfhowlett> and move on, thinky
[09:55] <ikonia> thinky: you did not give the info about the fatal errors - you let someone just try to help you wihtout sharing
[09:55] <SP33D> i dont understand it myself
[09:55] <thinky> thx cfhowlett
[09:55] <akik> thinky: the 32-bit version of chrome was discontinued. do you have the 32-bit installation?
[09:56] <ikonia> thinky: I've asked you and warned you about this
[09:56] <thinky> ikonia: stop it !
[09:56] <SP33D> but the error is clear not in AllowUsers means not in AllowUsers and there is no AllowUsers
[09:56] <thinky> i dont know what s related with the problems i am not ubuntu specialist
[09:56] <xtr33> Ben64, I have tried 0000 00000 1234 12345, it requires a pin won't accept no pin
[09:56] <vooze> Trying to run screenfetch from 16.04 i get the follow error: (process:31528): dconf-CRITICAL **: unable to create file '/home/vooze/.cache/dconf/user': Permission denied.  dconf will not work properly. -- What could cause this? - I checked my laptop where its working and it has all the same permissions.
[09:56] <ikonia> vooze: ok - so whats the permissions on that directory where it is trying to create
[09:56] <Ben64> xtr33: google says it's 0000
[09:57] <xtr33> hmm, it has actually now connected
[09:57] <vooze> ikonia: it is owned by root. Going into the the folder as root and looking at the user file it looks all the same.
[09:58] <ikonia> vooze: no file in your home directory should be owned by root - change it
[09:58] <xtr33> Ben64, thank you I shall try to use it in a game to see if its working, hopefully that's all I need to do
[09:59] <guest-4ZVU48> hej
[10:00] <vooze> ikonia: I just tried that, and no more erors now, but the script screenfetch does not show all information, so something is still wrong :/ - But like I said, on my laptop also on 16.04 it works just fine with root
[10:01] <guest-4ZVU48> siemka
[10:01] <ikonia> vooze: shoudn't be using root
[10:01] <Charlatan> Hello.
[10:02] <guest-4ZVU48> hello
[10:02] <Charlatan> Hey there, guest.
[10:02] <thinky> back
[10:02] <Charlatan> Nobody cares, thinky :)
[10:02] <thinky> cfhowlett: sorry i forgot to mention about the error i faced
[10:02] <Wulf> Charlatan: exactly.
[10:02] <thinky> Charlatan: i know :p
[10:02] <Charlatan> You faced an error?
[10:03] <thinky> yes
[10:03] <lotuspsychje> !behelpful | Charlatan
[10:03] <thinky> after restart it wanted me to report
[10:03] <thinky> i dont know error details
[10:03] <Charlatan> lotus please get off my fucking back.
[10:03] <Charlatan> Thanks.
[10:03] <Charlatan> I appreciate it.
[10:04] <lotuspsychje> Charlatan: please dont use that kind of language here
[10:04] <cfhowlett> Charlatan, no profanity needed or allowed in this channel.  consult the guidelines if you have questions
[10:04] <cfhowlett> !guidelines
[10:04] <Charlatan> Okay, where should I use it?
[10:04] <thinky> is there a way to refresh my ubuntu installation? and fix possible errors?
[10:04] <Charlatan> I dunno, thinky. Never used ubuntu. It's a bit ugly.
[10:05] <Charlatan> Plus you can't run any decent games on it. I'm what you might call a gamer 4 lyfe.
[10:05] <MonkeyDust> Charlatan  sure you want to be here?
[10:05] <thinky> lol Charlatan why do u think so?
[10:05] <cfhowlett> Charlatan, please entertain yourself by trolling in a different channel
[10:05] <Charlatan> thinky: perhaps you disagree?
[10:05] <thinky> it is different and beautiful to me
[10:05] <xtr33> Plenty of good games for linux
[10:05] <thinky> Charlatan: yes i understand that for some ppl it looks ugly
[10:05] <Wulf> Charlatan: gamer for life? I work for a living, is that something similar?
[10:06] <Charlatan> My laptop is like 9 years old.
[10:06] <lotuspsychje> !discuss
[10:06] <MonkeyDust> Charlatan  you're not in the right channel for that kind of conversation
[10:06] <Charlatan> Wulf: I guess that makes you a self-described worker for life.
[10:06] <Charlatan> Congrats?
[10:06] <Charlatan> MonkeyDust: can you elaborate?
[10:06] <Charlatan> Is this only for support?
[10:06] <lotuspsychje> ikonia: more work for you ^
[10:06] <MonkeyDust> !ot | Charlatan
[10:06] <cfhowlett> Charlatan, as stated in the  channel topic, yes this is the support channel
[10:07] <Charlatan> Are the other channels also busyish?
[10:07] <vooze> ikonia: weird, I just downloaded screenfetch from github, ran it with ./screenfetch-dev and after that, the orignal screenfetch worked again. Stange :)
[10:07] <MonkeyDust> Charlatan  this channel focusses on support, not on 'busy conversation'
[10:08] <Charlatan> But I mean if I were to switch to ot, would it be dead? That'd be lame.
[10:08] <Xard> On 16.04 I have a usb3 drive which shuts down when "removed safely" but immediately after that powers on and remounts everything
[10:08] <Charlatan> I can see you are too stupid to understand.
[10:08] <Charlatan> LOL UBUNTU IS FOR VIRGINS LOL!
[10:08] <Wulf> Charlatan: /msg alis list * -min 1000
[10:09] <yogeshrt> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-ubuntu on This page we should change name from "Startup Disk Creator" to "usb-creator-gtk"
[10:09] <MonkeyDust> Charlatan  go away
[10:09] <lotuspsychje> !ops | Charlatan trolling
[10:09] <cfhowlett> thinky, assuming 1. this is fixable without reinstalling and 2. the problem is in your source list  Method 1   http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-fix-the-ubuntu-gpg-error-badsig.html
[10:09] <Xard> and then I have another usb3 drive where the "safely remove" works just fine
[10:10] <thinky> cfhowlett: do u think it is because of gnome classic fallback?
[10:10] <cfhowlett> thinky no idea
[10:10] <cfhowlett> but the DE doesn't matter to the sources and repos so ... I'd guess not
[10:13] <Xard> for both drives i'm using the same usb3 port
[10:14] <thinky> cfhowlett: Fetched 35.6 MB in 1min 36s (367 kB/s)                                          AppStream cache update completed, but some metadata was ignored due to errors. Reading package lists... Done
[10:15] <cfhowlett> OK try to install chrome, thinky
[10:15] <thinky> Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done E: Unable to locate package google-chrome-stable
[10:15] <thinky> no luck
[10:15] <thinky> same error
[10:15] <cfhowlett> thinky, are you on 32 bit ubuntu?
[10:16] <thinky> no
[10:16] <thinky> 64bit
[10:16] <cfhowlett> thinky, over my head then.  sorry.
[10:16] <thinky> :S
[10:16] <thinky> i think 16.04 is not stable yet
[10:17] <thinky> should i re-install ?
[10:17] <cfhowlett> try a different mirror first, thinky
[10:17] <thinky> brb
[10:19] <akik> the dependencies for chrome have changed in kubuntu 16.04. i had to install a couple of pango packages too
[10:19] <Cedara> Is there  a list where I can look up bugs in 16.04 yet? I mean, aside from launchpad?
[10:19] <akik> sudo apt install libappindicator1 libpango1.0-0 libpangox-1.0-0 libpangoxft-1.0-0 libindicator7
[10:21] <TJ-> is it just me or does the 16.04 ubuntu-desktop installer leave 'casper' installed on the target ("dpkg -l casper" shows it installed) ?
[10:21] <SP33D> @ikonia found the exact fail :) Listen: do-release-upgrade dont modifyed the sshd_config on the server on the client the new ssh version uses if you do as normal user#! ssh root@host now look for keys in /root/.ssh on the client not like befor in /home/currentuser/.ssh
[10:26] <ayush> ohh i am here
[10:26] <ayush> quit
[10:26] <ayush> q
[10:26] <xtr33> Ben64:  gnome 16.04 appears to recognize the touch controller but not the actual joystick on the ps4 controller it is labelled "wireless controller" in the bluetooth options window and there is no other device availabel
[10:26] <ayush> :X
[10:27] <ayush> any good way to bypass cyber roam on ubuntu?
[10:27] <ayush> any good way to bypass cyber roam on ubuntu?
[10:27] <ayush> any good way to bypass cyber roam on ubuntu?
[10:27] <ayush> any good way to bypass cyber roam on ubuntu?
[10:27] <FManTropyx> lol
[10:28] <ratrace> wth is cyber roam
[10:28] <xtr33> Anyone have experience operating a ps4 controller with gnome who can help me get set up properly?
[10:31] <MonkeyDust> xtr33  looks like you're a gnome/ps4 pioneer
[10:31] <xtr33> damn
[10:31] <cfhowlett> ... to  boldy go!
[10:32] <Guest40583> im using ubuntu 16.04 and weechat only run as root
[10:32] <xtr33> I know that when connecting to windows the controller has two devices, gnome only finds one
[10:32] <lotuspsychje> Guest40583: dont run irc as root
[10:33] <Guest40583> lotuspsychje: this is what happens when i dont run as root
[10:34] <xtr33> theres always one thing I can't get to run properly using linux
[10:36] <Guest40583> lotuspsychje: Error: unable to create/append to log file (weechat.log)
[10:36] <Guest40583> If another WeeChat process is using this file, try to run WeeChat
[10:36] <Guest40583> with another home using the "--dir" command line option.
[10:38] <xtr33> Oh well thanks for the help at least I have managed to make it work wired, if anyone succeeds with getting the ps4 controller to function properly over bluetooth please let me know.
[10:40] <Guest40583> how do i install google chrome on ubuntu 16.04... mine cant install
[10:41] <xtr33> hi guest, I used chromium
[10:41] <Guest40583> xtr33: let me try
[10:41] <xtr33> chrome wouldn't install as it would in the previous version
[10:42] <KnightRider> i have all kinds of problems with installing .deb applications, try with gdebi
[10:42] <KnightRider> chrome installed with gdebi on my 16.04
[10:42] <Guest40583> xtr33: chromium isnt on 16.04
[10:42] <MonkeyDust> !find chromium-browser
[10:43] <xtr33> guest are you looking in the Ubuntu Software Center for chromium?
[10:44] <Johnny_Linux> software boutique
[10:44] <sissylog> removing synaptic from the default was a mistake
[10:44] <sissylog> gnome-software center is a joke compared to it
[10:45] <Guest40583> xtr33: nope.. ubuntu software center is very bad
[10:45] <xtr33> well it worked for me no problem
[10:45] <sissylog> xtr33, half the packages aren't even listed
[10:46] <xtr33> that's no good worked out of the box for me
[10:46] <sissylog> it worked for you because you probably didn't run into something that's not listed
[10:46] <xtr33> like chromium?
[10:46] <xtr33> guest is trying to find chromium
[10:46] <sissylog> idk abt chromium but i am sure figlet isn't listed
[10:47] <sissylog> or cowsay or screenfetch
[10:48] <xtr33> ok, what is an alternative software centre?
[10:48] <sissylog> synaptic
[10:48] <TJ-> "apt-cache search -n <regular-expression>"
[10:48] <sissylog> ^^
[10:48] <sissylog> thats ofc if you'r not scared of cli
[10:49] <MonkeyDust> xtr33  there's a new software center in gnome
[10:49] <TJ-> If you're scared of CLI then don't use the Dash :)
[10:49] <TJ-> it's all typing!
[10:49] <xtr33> might have to look at it if I cant find something in software centre at some stage
[10:51] <Guest40583> xtr33: software center isnt good at all
[10:51] <cfhowlett> Guest40583, no need to repeat your opinion.
[10:52] <cfhowlett> xtr33, the command line looks in the same repos as the software center does.
[10:52] <TJ-> gnome-software isn't showing me *any* applications when I try to browse the sections
[10:52] <lotuspsychje> its ubuntu-software now :p
[10:53] <TJ-> well, 16.04 installed gnome-software and that's whats started from the launcher
[10:53] <xtr33> I managed to find everything I needed in software centre tonight, it's a shame other people aren't having luck with it.
[10:53] <MonkeyDust> !info ubuntu-software
[10:54] <irgendwer4711> hi, which is the difference between nvidia-graphics-drivers-352-updates vidia-graphics-drivers-352?
[10:55] <TJ-> sissylog: I just started gnome-software from a terminal; it throws out a few errors that look relevant
[10:56] <TJ-> sissylog: interesting, and how it *is* showing applications
[10:56] <xtr33> Looking forward to trying the PPC version on my g4 ibook later on, shold make for a good amiga box seeing as morphos is $EU111 for activation key
[10:57] <lotuspsychje> irgendwer4711: the driver working best, is best for your system
[10:57] <akik> TJ-: kubuntu's plasma-discover is also broken.. as a software center
[10:57] <lotuspsychje> irgendwer4711: you got issues with your card currently?
[10:57] <irgendwer4711> lotuspsychje: which one
[10:57] <TJ-> Let's just stick with "apt-cache search" - much more reliable :)
[10:57] <irgendwer4711> lotuspsychje: yes, ibGL error: No matching fbConfigs or visuals found
[10:57] <irgendwer4711> *l
[10:58] <lotuspsychje> irgendwer4711: wich ubuntu version?
[10:58] <irgendwer4711> lotuspsychje: 15.10
[10:58] <sissylog> TJ-, i didn't say its broken, i said its far less capable than synpatic
[10:58] <TJ-> sissylog: still no 'cowsay' though; looks like it filters out non-GUI programs
[10:58] <lotuspsychje> irgendwer4711: did it work before?
[10:58] <sissylog> TJ-, now you get it
[10:58] <TJ-> sissylog: same thing really - it's a regression over previous facilities :)
[10:58] <irgendwer4711> lotuspsychje: 50/50, I had strange performance problems with steam.
[10:59] <irgendwer4711> lotuspsychje: lag, but high fps, more than 25
[10:59] <sissylog> TJ-, nah broken implies there are bugs
[10:59] <Guest40583> chrome is now installed sudo dpkg -i --force-depends google-chrome-stable_current_amd64.deb
[10:59] <lotuspsychje> irgendwer4711: wich graphics card chipset do you have?
[10:59] <TJ-> sissylog: Its a bug to not be able to discover a program in the archive using the primary software center tool
[10:59] <sissylog> nope thats an idiot proof feature
[10:59] <irgendwer4711> lotuspsychje: and I had downloaded the own nvidia driver 364 or something. geforce 550
[11:00] <sissylog> TJ-, otherwise there'd be people on here asking "oh i installed this 7zip thing but i see no icon for it"
[11:00] <lotuspsychje> irgendwer4711: can you go check your additional drivers section, wich drivers list?
[11:00] <agoogoo> how to grep a command from commands.txt and input it with one line?
[11:01] <TJ-> sissylog: the thing is bug-riddled unfortunately. See https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-software/+bugs?orderby=-id&start=0
[11:01] <irgendwer4711> lotuspsychje: ah ok, this menu isnt locked anymore. its showing 352.63-updates active
[11:01] <lotuspsychje> irgendwer4711: you could play around with different driver versions, until you find one that performs well?
[11:02] <lotuspsychje> irgendwer4711: another option to test your card on 16.04
[11:02] <MonkeyDust> agoogoo  if you don't get an answer here, ask in #bash
[11:02] <irgendwer4711> lotuspsychje: I could select the non-updates variant. I will update to 16.04 in future maybe
[11:03] <lotuspsychje> irgendwer4711: ok good luck
[11:03] <irgendwer4711> thx
[11:03] <sissylog> TJ-,meh i'd rather devs/maintainers never wasted time on a piece of shit like software center and focused on important things like wine and stuff that really needs progress for making Linux desktops more accessible
[11:03] <lotuspsychje> !language | sissylog
[11:04] <agoogoo> MonkeyDust: thx
[11:06] <agoogoo> one more question, will there be a unified software search including ppas / all software
[11:06] <Deniz946> Hello, I dont know what happened but my Ubuntu stopped working, I've restarted it appeared me the Ubuntu logo and after few seconds a black screen with a just _ in the screen
[11:06] <Deniz946> Any help please?
[11:06] <lotuspsychje> Deniz946: recent update?
[11:07] <Deniz946> Nop, at least I didn't updated it manually
[11:07] <lotuspsychje> Deniz946: wich ubuntu version are you on?
[11:07] <Deniz946> 14
[11:08] <lotuspsychje> Deniz946: 14.04?
[11:08] <lotuspsychje> !ppa | agoogoo
[11:08] <Deniz946> Ye
[11:09] <MonkeyDust> agoogoo  ppa's are often created by individuals, not related to the official ubuntu devs
[11:09] <lotuspsychje> Deniz946: can you try to load a previous kernel from grub?
[11:09] <Deniz946> How I can do that?
[11:09] <MonkeyDust> 'official'
[11:09] <lotuspsychje> Deniz946: hold shift at boot==> enter grub==> ubuntu (previous kernel)
[11:10] <brym> afternoon all. i've got a domain name forwarding with a mask, and i'd like to break out of the frameset the final site is wrapped in. can i use dom manipulation to do that while retaining the masked url?
[11:10] <Deniz946> Nothing happens with shift it says me E to edit commands before booting or c for command line
[11:11] <brym> aha, sorry guys, wrong chan lol
[11:11] <lotuspsychje> Deniz946: so you see the grub list already with ubuntu versions?
[11:12] <Deniz946> I see the grub with Ubuntu Ubuntu advanced options memory test windows 7
[11:13] <lotuspsychje> Deniz946: ubuntu (previous versions) you seeing that?
[11:13] <Deniz946> Nop
[11:13] <Deniz946> I thing it's in advanced options
[11:14] <Deniz946> Here I see Ubuntu with Linux 3.19.p-58 generic
[11:14] <Deniz946> Same but in recovery mode
[11:14] <lotuspsychje> Deniz946: do you see other kernel numbers too?
[11:14] <Deniz946> And 3.0.19.0-25 generic
[11:14] <lotuspsychje> Deniz946: ok try to boot that one
[11:14] <Deniz946> Normal or recovery mode?
[11:15] <lotuspsychje> Deniz946: normal first, to check if we get in
[11:15] <Deniz946> I'm in
[11:16] <lotuspsychje> Deniz946: loaded ok to your desktop?
[11:16] <Deniz946> Yes
[11:16] <lotuspsychje> Deniz946: this would be a good time to make a backup :p
[11:16] <Deniz946> :((( what that means
[11:16] <Deniz946> Why was the error?
[11:16] <icebyte>  /SET term_force_colors ON
[11:17] <hugo> basic
[11:17] <lotuspsychje> Deniz946: meaning if you still need your data, save it somewhere external
[11:17] <TJ-> Deniz946: sounds to me like you had a kernel update, and during generation of the initial ramdisk it ran out of space in /boot/
[11:18] <Deniz946> How I can change that it uses the the kernel that works?
[11:18] <Deniz946> So I don't have to do all this all the time?
[11:18] <TJ-> Deniz946: start a terminal and do "df" and check if there's a separate entry for /boot, or if any of the mounts is listed at or near to 100% usage
[11:18] <TJ-> Deniz946: it would help if you can pastebin the output of 'df' for us to see
[11:19] <cstolan> hello
[11:20] <rastos2> Hi. I'm not that familiar with Ubuntu - is it possible to find out what options (for ./configure) are used when building Xorg server?
[11:20] <deniz946_> here u have the df
[11:20] <deniz946_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/16000462/
[11:20] <deniz946_> i don't understand what it says
[11:21] <lotuspsychje> deniz946_: can we see your /var/log/syslog aswell?
[11:21] <cstolan> anyone having trouble installing google-talk plugin in 16.04?
[11:21] <lotuspsychje> rastos2: start from the beginning, what are you trying to do?
[11:21] <deniz946_> lotuspsychje, http://paste.ubuntu.com/16000491/
[11:23] <cstolan> anyone having trouble installing google-talk plugin in 16.04? i've been trying to install through software center but it doesn't work. solutions anyone?
[11:23] <hariharan> everybody my hearty greetings on my first entry
[11:23] <irgendwer4711> lotuspsychje: I still have a problem. now bigger
[11:24] <lotuspsychje> irgendwer4711: was there other drivers on your list?
[11:24] <irgendwer4711> lotuspsychje: libGL error: No matching fbConfigs or visuals found. libGL error: failed to load driver: swrast. Cant play a game.
[11:24] <irgendwer4711> lotuspsychje: this driver worked. days ago
[11:25] <lotuspsychje> irgendwer4711: the 352-updates?
[11:25] <irgendwer4711> lotuspsychje:  both.
[11:25] <yahia> hi
[11:25] <lotuspsychje> irgendwer4711: are there other versions showing your list?
[11:26] <irgendwer4711> irgendwer4711: I downgraded from 364 to the ubuntu one, because control app was gone.
[11:26] <lotuspsychje> irgendwer4711: try them all, one by one...
[11:26] <AEL-H1> Hey guys, I created this script : http://pastebin.com/V3AeGk0N to run the following dropbox daemon : https://www.dropbox.com/en_GB/install?os=lnx
[11:26] <AEL-H1> But it doesn't appear to be running on startup . . .
[11:26] <AEL-H1> When I run it manually it works fine, can someone tell me what's going on?
[11:26] <irgendwer4711> lotuspsychje: the driver is not the problem, some settigns are wrong.
[11:27] <deniz946_> TJ-, Did you see the df ?
[11:27] <lotuspsychje> irgendwer4711: settings of what?
[11:27] <irgendwer4711> lotuspsychje: xserver, driver, whatever
[11:27] <lotuspsychje> irgendwer4711: you can always try a sudo apt-get purge nvidia* to go back to nouveau
[11:27] <TJ-> deniz946_: looking now... been away
[11:28] <lotuspsychje> irgendwer4711: then reinstall the 352 one
[11:28] <deniz946_> Okay
[11:28] <irgendwer4711> lotuspsychje: yes, may I have to do that.
[11:28] <lotuspsychje> irgendwer4711: perhaps something scrambled up..
[11:28] <TJ-> deniz946_: no problems with space... so lets check if the boot files are messed up: "pastebinit <( ls -latr /boot/ )"
[11:28] <irgendwer4711> lotuspsychje: sure: libGL error: No matching fbConfigs or visuals found
[11:29] <deniz946_> TJ-, http://paste.ubuntu.com/16000622/
[11:30] <lotuspsychje> deniz946_: also usefull would be loading up your latest kernel and press F1 at ubuntu logo, to see where errors hang
[11:30] <lotuspsychje> deniz946_: cant find anything weird in your syslog
[11:31] <deniz946_> and how i can make that my computer uses by default my working kernel?
[11:31] <TJ-> deniz946_: the sizes look OK, but I'm surprised by the modifications dates - the older kernel version (-25) was modified after the newer (-58_ version)
[11:31] <lotuspsychje> deniz946_: before we do that, we best need to understand why its happening
[11:31] <TJ-> deniz946_: can you show me "pastebinit <( uname -a; sudo blkid /dev/sda*; cat /boot/grub/grub.cfg )"
[11:32] <iSlayWyverns> How can I lock screen without blacking-out?
[11:32] <deniz946_> TJ-, http://paste.ubuntu.com/16000689/
[11:33] <deniz946_> lotuspsychje, nothing happens, its like computer freezes at ubuntu logo
[11:33] <MonkeyDust> iSlayWyverns  i guess it's super+L or ctrl+L (i'm not in unity now)
[11:33] <lotuspsychje> deniz946_: you cant F1?
[11:33] <TJ-> deniz946_: that pastebin doesn't appear to have the output of the 1st 2 commands
[11:34] <iSlayWyverns> MonkeyDust, Super+L works. (Was wondering on Auto (after 1-5 minutes) but I'll search something) Thanks!
[11:34] <deniz946_> TJ-, http://paste.ubuntu.com/16000722/ now?
[11:34] <deniz946_> lotuspsychje, nop
[11:35] <TJ-> deniz946_: weird, the command seems to be missing the output of uname and blkid ... let me test that here
[11:35] <lotuspsychje> deniz946_: how about you try 'e' for edit and remove the "quiet splash" to see text booting
[11:37] <TJ-> deniz946_: it works here, I get the uname and blkid output too: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16000766/
[11:37] <TJ-> oh, too late!
[11:38] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[11:38] <Deniz946> I'm here
[11:38] <TJ-> Deniz946: ahh :D
[11:38] <Deniz946> Lotus I've tried f1 again and now it says
[11:38] <TJ-> Deniz946: what does "uname -a" report ?
[11:39] <Deniz946> The system is running in low graphics. Mode
[11:39] <Deniz946> Your screen graphics card and an input device settings could not be detected correctly you will need to configure  please yourself
[11:40] <lotuspsychje> Deniz946: thats failsafeX your chosen?
[11:40] <Deniz946> Nop, I've choosed normal ubuntu
[11:40] <Deniz946> And after that the computers freeze
[11:40] <Deniz946> Ah no
[11:41] <Deniz946> I can use the mouse
[11:42] <Deniz946> I can choose run in low graphics just for one session reconfigure graphic troubleshoot this error or exit to console log
[11:42] <lotuspsychje> Deniz946: thats the recoverymode you choose?
[11:42] <Deniz946> Nop
[11:43] <TJ-> Deniz946: lotuspsychje that sounds like the proprietary GPU driver may have failed to build via DKMS
[11:43] <TJ-> Deniz946: does the system have the nvidia driver, or AMD fglrx ?
[11:44] <x-fak> hi
[11:44] <AEL-H1> Hey guys, I created this script : http://pastebin.com/V3AeGk0N to run the following dropbox daemon : https://www.dropbox.com/en_GB/install?os=lnx
[11:44] <AEL-H1> But it doesn't appear to be running on startup . . .
[11:44] <AEL-H1> When I run it manually it works fine, can someone tell me what's going on?
[11:44] <rastos2> lotuspsychje: I'm trying to find out why ssh -X works in Ubuntu but does not work in my Slackware - it seems, that slackware builds X server without  --enable-xcsecurity and I want to know whether Ubuntu specifies the option or not. If it does, then it explains why ssh -X works in Ubuntu but not in Slackware.
[11:44] <Deniz946> I have 2 GPU one Intel and one nvidia
[11:44] <TJ-> AEL-H1: usually those issues are due to different shell's and environment variables at boot-time vs user session
[11:44] <lotuspsychje> rastos2: perhaps the #openssh guys might know that one?
[11:44] <Deniz946> And I think I Hace novoutel or something like that driver
[11:44] <TJ-> Deniz946: OK, so it required nvidia prime then ?
[11:45] <rastos2> lotuspsychje: It's not a matter of ssh -x. It is a mattter of whether X server contains the Security extension built in or not
[11:45] <TJ-> Deniz946: does "dpkg -l 'nvidia*' | grep ^ii" report anything installed?
[11:46] <TJ-> rastos2: you can see the configure command in the build logs on launchpad
[11:46] <Deniz946> Yes
[11:46] <|RIC|> hi
[11:46] <rastos2> TJ-: okay, that sounds like the right direction - what is launchpad ? ;-) Link?
[11:47] <|RIC|> Having some trouble with
[11:47] <|RIC|> sudo pip install scipy
[11:47] <Deniz946> NVidia 304 nVidia current nVidia libopencl nVidia opencl-icd nVidia settings
[11:47] <|RIC|> warning using deprecated numpy api
[11:48] <Deniz946> I remember ive installed nVidia-settings yesterday
[11:48] <dd82> Got a strange issue trying to update git, not matter what I try i still get "git version 1.7.11.4" when I run git --version afterwards, even though the man page says 2.8.1 now. Tried apt-get remove & dpkg --remove, during apt-get install it even says that it is installing 2.8.1, but after I still get the same old git. Running 14.04 LTS (which was upgraded from previous LTS). Any ideas?
[11:48] <TJ-> rastos2: follow the 'Version' links, then the "Builds" architecture links, then the "buildlog" https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+publishinghistory
[11:49] <pasta> http://askubuntu.com/questions/760671/could-not-load-vboxdrv-after-upgrade-to-ubuntu-16-04
[11:49] <qwerty12345> 16.02 lts is not lts, some packages are only supported for 9m or 3y, wtf is wrong with you? dont call it lts if it isnt lts with 5y support for ALL packages! i will go back to debian!
[11:49] <pasta> virtualbox doesnt work on 16.04
[11:49] <TJ-> rastos2: I see "--disable-xcsecurity" on the line starting "../configure \"
[11:49] <Satyameva> Can anyone tell me why Ubuntu released a known insecure version of snaps in an LTS?
[11:50] <rastos2> TJ-: strange. my theory falls apart :-(
[11:50] <TJ-> rastos2: but you can compare the complete configure with your own in case there are other differences
[11:50] <brainwash> Satyameva: link to the bug report?
[11:50] <|RIC|> where can I get any help with installing python package on ubuntu?
[11:51] <|RIC|> SCIPY is the package
[11:51] <|RIC|> sudo pip install scipy
[11:51] <lotuspsychje> qwerty12345: there is no 16.02
[11:51] <qwerty12345> http://1.f.ix.de/imgs/18/1/7/9/7/7/2/5/ubuntu-1604-feac0685387ad753.png very nice lts support guys
[11:51] <stormanka> Im in the process of reinstalling my home server without GUI, torrents, storage, media server and some playing around with apache and mysql (very basic stuff) reading here it seems like there are some issues with 16.04 should i wait?
[11:51] <TJ-> !info python3-scipy
[11:52] <brainwash> |RIC|: do you get any error?
[11:52] <|RIC|> warning using deprecated numpy api
[11:52] <lotuspsychje> stormanka: wich version are you on now?
[11:53] <Deniz946> Lotus can you tell me how to put default kernel the working one please?
[11:53] <Fiki> hello i can't make a bootable version of Ubuntu 16 no matter how hard i try, I have used cat and dd methods
[11:53] <Satyameva> brainwash: I am not sure the is a bug report just yet, but it is very widely known that snaps is not secure when running with X.Org.Server and will allow snap packages to steal data from any other X11 Software
[11:53] <stormanka> lotuspsychje: 14.04 desktop, but im planning on starting fresh with what ive learned since last time
[11:53] <|RIC|> brainwash do you know what it means
[11:53] <x-fak> there is no easy way to mount ext4 partition under ubuntu v8 hardy ?
[11:53] <brainwash> |RIC|: not sure. if you want help with pip, you could ask in #pypa
[11:54] <|RIC|> thanks brainwash
[11:54] <qwerty12345> i hope canocical will die with their ubuntu!!!!!!!!
[11:54] <lotuspsychje> stormanka: depends what you want then, its safer to wait until 16.04.1, but you can clean install right now aswell
[11:54] <crevillo> hello, just upgraded to xenial and now my wireless is not working
[11:54] <crevillo> this is my controller 03:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Broadcom Corporation BCM43142 802.11b/g/n [14e4:4365] (rev 01)
[11:54] <lotuspsychje> crevillo: can you try a sudo service network-manager restart
[11:54] <brainwash> Satyameva: "very widely known" hmm
[11:54] <stormanka> lotuspsychje: Okey! still playing around in virtualbox but good to know i wont run head first into a wall
[11:54] <deniz946_> lotuspsychje, can you help me put the working kernel as default please?
[11:55] <lotuspsychje> deniz946_: not really recommended to keep running previous kernel versions
[11:55] <lotuspsychje> deniz946_: backup data and reinstall fresh
[11:55] <brainwash> Satyameva: I suggest you head over to #snappy
[11:55] <AEL-H1> TJ-:  What should I try to do to rectify that?
[11:55] <crevillo> lotuspsyche: done, but still same result
[11:56] <crevillo> lotuspsychje i mean
[11:56] <rastos2> TJ-: sorry for being annoying, do I need to be logged in on launchpad to see the build logs? Because I don't see anything on https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+publishinghistory and nearby pages. Let's say I want to see the build log for 64-bit 14.04 LTS .
[11:56] <lotuspsychje> crevillo: did you check additional drivers for the STA broadcom driver?
[11:56] <crevillo> not yet...
[11:56] <lotuspsychje> crevillo: check if its an option
[11:57] <Satyameva> brainwash: to people that can read, yes I would say that it is. I just find it kind of funny that one of the largest Linux distros released a LTS that is going to be busted for the duration of its life span. That is all, continue on
[11:58] <crevillo> look there's something here https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/broadcom-sta/6.30.223.248-3.3
[11:58] <brainwash> Satyameva: snaps are not installed or used by default. also, bugs can and will be fixed.
[11:59] <lotuspsychje> crevillo: check your additional drivers section first...
[12:00] <rastos2> TJ-: ah. something like this: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/238254643/buildlog_ubuntu-trusty-amd64.xorg-server_2%3A1.18.1-1ubuntu3_BUILDING.txt.gz
[12:01] <TJ-> rastos2: yes
[12:01] <rastos2> okay, thanks.
[12:01] <Satyameva> brainwash: I would disagree with that statement. The issue is with X.Org and as it is the default X11 provider, it will not be patched. That being said I am not here to start a fight, just wondering if anyone had a good reason as to why this was happening. It is clear that no one in the channel does so I will drop it.
[12:02] <Myrtti> Satyameva: well this is support channel, not the devs channel.
[12:03] <Myrtti> sadly I'm not caffinated enough to pull the correct channel from the top of my head, either
[12:03] <Satyameva> Myrtti: That is a good response "Not my problem"
[12:03] <brainwash> exactly. it's strange that "everyone" knows about it, but no one has managed to file a bug report yet..
[12:03] <bulldog_58> is anyone aware of the fix for the broadcom wireless issue after upgrade to 16.04?
[12:04] <Myrtti> Satyameva: it's not a 'not my problem' response, it's a 'I doubt anyone here would discuss it at length on this channel, even if they could' response
[12:04] <brainwash> !ot
[12:04] <Myrtti> (I think most of the problem is that most of the inhabitants are here to either help people with their immediate Ubuntu issues, or getting that help)
[12:05] <lotuspsychje> bulldog_58: did you check additional drivers section for your broadcom?
[12:06] <Myrtti> the cross section of people who are responsible for snaps or dev work relating to that and x.org, AND are on this channel is small. So that's why you might not be getting the responses you'd like.
[12:06] <Myrtti> Satyameva: maybe try #ubuntu-devel?
[12:07] <lotuspsychje> or #ubuntu-app-devel
[12:07] <brainwash> or #snappy
[12:08] <bulldog_58> yes lotus - I have been through all the normal solutions...additional drivers show in use, but it seems this is an issue with multiple wireless cards since upgrade
[12:08] <lotuspsychje> bulldog_58: whats the issue exactly?
[12:08] <Satyameva> Myrtti: I just stopped by to let the 1878 users in the channel know that Ubuntu or their devs dont really care about security as much as they say they do. It is sad, I have said for year Ubuntu is the "Windows of the Linux world" and this only proves my point. Have a great weekend
[12:08] <bulldog_58> I removed driver & did a clean install
[12:10] <bulldog_58> Have just completed the upgrade to 16.04 and have no wifi.
[12:10] <bulldog_58> In the networking tab of the settings menu the is no option to enable wifi.
[12:10] <bulldog_58> After some googling I saw a thread about lshw -C which gives me the following result
[12:10] <bulldog_58> -network UNCLAIMED
[12:10] <bulldog_58> description: Network controller
[12:10] <bulldog_58> product: BCM43142 802.11b/g/n
[12:10] <lotuspsychje> bulldog_58: additional drivers should show the STA broadcom, did you check that?
[12:13] <n1md4> hi.  i got the server version of ubuntu to run a gui only for a low spec laptop, but it does boot to a prompt
[12:13] <n1md4> ... any ideas?
[12:13] <cfhowlett> drop the gui.  It's a server.
[12:13] <bulldog_58> it currently is
[12:14] <lotuspsychje> bulldog_58: active or not?
[12:14] <xNear> Hmm how AMD new driver compares to the fglrx? Is AMD going to release a new fglrx for Ubuntu?
[12:15] <peetacakes> Hi can anyone offer help with deja back up? (My restore has failed due to 'unknown errors'
[12:15] <lotuspsychje> xNear: on 16.04 use driver radeon & amdgpu
[12:15] <bulldog_58> Broadcom 802.11 Linux STA wireless driver source from bcmwl-kernal-source (proprietary)
[12:15] <lotuspsychje> bulldog_58: yeah thats the one
[12:15] <xNear> I use preinstalled it work's pretty well I didn't tested any games and harder applications than browser with youtube though.
[12:16] <bulldog_58> this issue is all over google since the upgrade
[12:16] <lotuspsychje> bulldog_58: was it activated or not?
[12:16] <lotuspsychje> bulldog_58: i have same b43 and works like a charm here on xenial
[12:17] <bulldog_58> the bios shows yes, the report output noted above shows UNCLAIMED
[12:17] <lotuspsychje> bulldog_58: did you upgrade or clean install?
[12:17] <Multbrelch> 16.04, 64Bit: only firefox has a menu, all other programs don't. What shall I do?
[12:17] <bulldog_58> it was an upgrade from 15.10
[12:17] <lotuspsychje> bulldog_58: right, might be interesting to try a liveusb
[12:17] <rastos2> TJ-: just for the record: The build commandline specifies _both_  --disable-xcsecurity and --enable-xcsecurity. Funny. Anway thanks for you help.
[12:18] <peetacakes> Anyone know anythin' about back ups?
[12:18] <bulldog_58> there seems to be a gnome issue
[12:18] <lotuspsychje> bulldog_58: your on ubuntu-gnome?
[12:18] <bulldog_58> yes
[12:18] <lotuspsychje> !backup | peetacakes
[12:19] <effectnet> hi good morningses.  hmmm my samba stopped working after wake up.  i wonder what wake up does to it.
[12:19] <peetacakes> My problem is restoring - I used the default to back up my system, clean installed 16.04 - but the restore failed
[12:19] <lotuspsychje> bulldog_58: did your sta driver was active or not on additional drivers?
[12:19] <greymoon> Good Mornig, the method of encryption encfs is vulnerable?
[12:19] <fortean_dad> afternoon all - anyone know how i can tell the (gnome) software centre to open up apt://appname urls in 16.04?
[12:19] <Multbrelch> The menu in the desktop bar just disappeared ... after a heavy graphics failure with the nouveau driver for nvidia. How do I get the menues back?
[12:19] <MonkeyDust> greymoon  what brings you here
[12:20] <bulldog_58> sta as active, I have tried the reset on it - also purged and rebuilt driver, no difference
[12:20] <lotuspsychje> bulldog_58: ok
[12:21] <bulldog_58> seems 16.04 was not quite ready for primetime
[12:21] <lotuspsychje> bulldog_58: you can only speak for yourself
[12:21] <lotuspsychje> bulldog_58: working like a charm here
[12:22] <Multbrelch> It seems to be this story: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/1539939 <= Any solution?
[12:22] <sagg> has anybody got virtualbox working on 16.04
[12:22] <bulldog_58> you are correct -I speak for myself, and the list of posts popping up on Google
[12:22] <fortean_dad> sagg: yep, no problems
[12:23] <bulldog_58> don't get me wrong - I love linux
[12:23] <TJ-> rastos2: re: both options... probably it uses the defaults and then suffixes the specific change via a makefile rule in debian/rules
[12:23] <sagg> i get an error when compiling kernel module
[12:24] <fortean_dad> sagg: i got my version out of the software center and it appears to be fine
[12:24] <bulldog_58> this is my laptop, and without wifi, I am forced to use my cellphone on teather
[12:24] <TJ-> sagg: can you pastebin the build log that DKMS points to?
[12:24] <sagg> i tried software center version, deb file and the test build. no luck
[12:25] <TJ-> bulldog_58: is the wifi driver usuall built at kernel install-time using DKMS? if so, there should be a build log which would point to why the module fails to build
[12:25] <Multbrelch> sagg, I just installed it via apt ... it works but not with an existing WinXP hd
[12:25] <sagg> i have an existing winxp hd
[12:26] <MonkeyDust> how is winxp related to this issue?
[12:26] <letitgo> Is it possible to manually extract a deja-dup back up?
[12:26] <Multbrelch> sagg, now the hd works, strange ...
[12:27] <AEL-H> does anyone use dropbox on ubuntu? I am having problems
[12:27] <DrunkenDwarf> Hi all. Im looking at getting a little <£200 netbook/11" laptop for business travel. .. From a little googling it doesnt seem that Ubuntu plays well with any of them properly. .. Is there any of the modern range that work well with Ubuntu that I should be looking at? Specifically 14.04
[12:27] <megaman> anyone else having tob bar visible when fullscreen on VLC or other media player?
[12:27] <megaman> top bar*
[12:27] <sagg> i get this error > "modprobe: ERROR: could not insert 'vboxdrv': Required key not available" when i try 'sudo modprobe vboxdrv'
[12:27] <AEL-H> DrunkenDwarf: Chromebooks work well with booting ubuntu
[12:28] <cfhowlett> AEL-H, waste no time asking "anyone else ..." questions.  State YOUR problems and specs
[12:28] <bulldog_58> I am going through logs to see if I can find any other issues
[12:28] <AEL-H> DrunkenDwarf: I boot ubuntu trusty off a Toshiba Chromebook 2, check it out
[12:28] <DrunkenDwarf> really? I was avoiding those cause I thought theyd have the least chance, dunno why
[12:28] <megaman> anyone else have problem on 16.04 that the top bar doesn't go away on VLC and other media players?
[12:29] <MonkeyDust> megaman  in VLC, hit F for fullscreen
[12:29] <Multbrelch> Does anybody have a problem with missing menus in top panelfor all programs despite firefox?
[12:29] <letitgo> ubuntu 16.04 - deja-dup 'restore failed' - failed with an unknown error
[12:29] <megaman> MonkeyDust: Yes but on 16.04 the top bar doesn't go away, I mean the Ubuntu topbar
[12:29] <AEL-H> Essentially the problem I am having with dropbox is they provide a 'daemon' file that you should run to get it syncing with dropbox but I access my box by SSH'ing in. So if I disown the program so it is not sent the SIGHUP it appears to only sync one way, I have tried to rectify this by making an init script to launch the daemon on startup but this is not working
[12:30] <sagg> Multbrelch, how did u get it to work?
[12:30] <megaman> MonkeyDust: Eh actually not getting the bar now, weird
[12:30] <TJ-> sagg: oh, that error! That's due to booting in UEFI Secure Boot mode and the module built locally cannot be signed, unless you add a user signing key to the system
[12:30] <Multbrelch> sagg, I just installed virtualbox
[12:30] <MonkeyDust> megaman  that's how good this channel is
[12:31] <megaman> haha :)
[12:31] <sagg> when I try legacy boot it boots straight to windows
[12:31] <letitgo> *waves*
[12:31] <effectnet> oh i got my samba working, I had to do:   sudo smbpasswd -a user
[12:31] <Multbrelch> sagg, sudo apt install virtualbox virtualbox-guest-utils virtualbox-dkms
[12:32] <DrunkenDwarf> AEL-H, is there a clean way to backup or reinstall the chromeos if you wanna go back?
 trying it now
[12:33] <Multbrelch> k
[12:33] <AEL-H> DrunkenDwarf: If you make the appropriate backups I believe so
[12:33] <Multbrelch> IS THERE really nobody who has had the problem with missing menus in top panel for all programs despite firefox?
[12:34] <DrunkenDwarf> AEL-H, hmmm, that may be my way forward then ..... I wonder if you can get chomebooks with some form of VGA-out
[12:35] <de-facto> Hey guys are there some changes related to Xft fonts in Xenial? i get loads of warnings from conky: can't load Xft font 'Ubuntu:size=10,weight:normal'
[12:35] <MonkeyDust> Multbrelch  that's not a good way to ask for assistance ... hit the up arrow to repeat your question every 15 minutes or so, until someone can help
[12:35] <fortean_dad> Multbrelch: do you mean in the window's title bar?
[12:36] <Wumbel> upgrade was just fine. No problems here. However, got a popup in steam.
[12:36] <DrunkenDwarf> AEL-H, thanks for your help, im off to buy a laptop :)
[12:36] <fortean_dad> afternoon all - anyone know how i can tell the (gnome) software centre to open up apt://appname urls in 16.04?
[12:37] <Multbrelch> MonkeyDust, okay
[12:37] <sagg> Multbrelch still the same error
[12:38] <sagg> "modprobe: ERROR: could not insert 'vboxdrv': Required key not available"
[12:38] <Multbrelch> fortean_dad, independently on what u choose in appeareance ...
[12:39] <Cedara> Wumbel : popup in steam about having a version that's too old?
[12:40] <Multbrelch> DrunkenDwarf, fortean_dad it seems to be this error here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/1539939
[12:40] <Wumbel> cedara: yes and i reinstalled steam, but no change.
[12:40] <MonkeyDust> Multbrelch  start with adding your name to the list
[12:40] <Cedara> Wumble: there's a bug : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/steam/+bug/1562645
[12:41] <imthenachoman> hello everyone. i am wondering if anyone here has any experience with Intel NUCs and 16.04 LTS? i am thinking of getting NUC6i5SYH or NUC5i5RYH (6th or 5th generation i5 dual disk option) and can't seem to find a lot of people saying if 16.04 LTS does or does not work OTB.
[12:41] <Wumbel> cedara: ah, ok.
[12:41] <SergalSwagger> hey, if I install ubuntu to my 2nd HDD on a seperate partiton will it A) not mess up the other partitions and B) not stop windows 10 from booting on the other HDD
[12:41] <Multbrelch> MonkeyDust, hmmm, I will do ... thx
[12:42] <MonkeyDust> SergalSwagger  it's called !dualboot, it will not mess with other partitions
[12:42] <Multbrelch> sagg, sry saw just your note - well, I have no idea what to do ... . You compiled the whole thing? Well, in this case I would personally consider a clean install ... may be. :-) good luck
[12:43] <SergalSwagger> MonkeyDust: yeah what about messing up the MBR so that only ubuntu boots, i've had that happen before
[12:43] <MonkeyDust> SergalSwagger  start from the beginnig, what brings you here, your experiences, efforts, errors etc
[12:44] <sagg> Multbrelch ok I'll try that. thanks for the help
[12:44] <SergalSwagger> MonkeyDust: wishing to dual boot but want advice so that i dont mess anything up
[12:44] <de-facto> anyone still using conky on xenial here?
[12:45] <SergalSwagger> already got windows 10 on here as an OEM and a spare partition on the D drive for ubuntu
[12:45] <SergalSwagger> well unalotated partiton but it will be ubuntu
[12:47] <SergalSwagger> MonkeyDust: that's what brings me here
[12:49] <SergalSwagger> cos' I have data on the D drive and C drive I want to keep C drive has windows 10 OEM D drive is backup with spare unalocated space for ubuntu. my question is will it mess up anythign that'll stop windows 10 from working or make the D drive not work in windows
[12:49] <cfhowlett> SergalSwagger, mbr?  not on a windows10 capable computer.  you're looking at efi
[12:49] <nedstark> windows 10 runs on older mbr pc's
[12:50] <SergalSwagger> cfhowlett: right you are
[12:50] <SergalSwagger> this is indeed EFI I do believe
[12:50] <julius> hi
[12:50] <cfhowlett> SergalSwagger, efi is actually more multi-boot capable if set up properly
[12:51] <julius> is there a ubuntu release that does support skylake with xv support where i can use mplayer and the xv output to play a mp4 fullscreen?
[12:51] <Multbrelch> Re all. Small not: those who loose their menus ... just type 'unity' into a terminal ... after some (strange) graphical issues all is back including the menus. I'm curious if this may remain like this ... Cheers.
[12:51] <SergalSwagger> cfhowlett: thats my point, how do i set it up without messing up anything
[12:51] <jasonb_> ubuntu 14.04 is getting updates from wily repository after a failed 15.10 update
[12:51] <jasonb_> can anyone help?
[12:52] <cfhowlett> jasonb_, sounds like you need to reset your sources file to point to wily.  proceed carefully.  in the present state you could break things easily
[12:52] <julius> jasonb_, sure....with that much information you should see a teller
[12:52] <cfhowlett> backup before you attempt any thing else, jason__
[12:53] <SergalSwagger> last thing i want is to mess up windows so that it doesn't boot or work by setting up dual boot wrong
[12:53] <pauljw> SergalSwagger, see if this helps: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2320913&highlight=uefi+dual+boot
[12:53] <jasonb_> cfhowlett, thanks
[12:53] <nedstark> edit /etc/apt/sources.list to say: deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty main restricted universe  (or another mirror closer to you)
[12:53] <cfhowlett> jasonb_, happy2help!
[12:53] <nedstark> jasonb_,
[12:57] <nedstark> there is supposedly a security risk associated with using Snap apps in conjunction with x11.  Wayland doesn't have it. http://www.infoworld.com/article/3060246/security/ubuntu-snap-doesnt-have-the-security-issue-x11-does.html
[12:58] <bulldog_58> after going through logs, I still can not find any clue as to why the Broadcom STA driver is not working
[12:58] <bulldog_58> dkms status
[12:58] <bulldog_58> bcmwl, 6.30.223.248+bdcom, 4.4.0-21-generic, x86_64: installed
[12:58] <lotuspsychje> !discuss | nedstark
[13:01] <lotuspsychje> bulldog_58: could try this one: firmware-b43-installer
[13:01] <Industrial> Hi!
[13:01] <Industrial> Has anyone used the package `gist` ?
[13:01] <Industrial> I installed it and I get no binary on my path
[13:01] <Industrial> at least not anything called gist
[13:02] <EriC^^> !info gist
[13:02] <PanV> Hello! I was planning to install Ubuntu again (in an external hard drive) but I want to have the partition ready first. I want to partition using gparted, but it won't let me for some reason. http://prntscr.com/avth28
[13:02] <EriC^^> Industrial: try dpkg -L gist | grep /bin
[13:02] <PanV> Oh hi EriC^^!
[13:02] <PanV> Long time no see
[13:02] <EriC^^> hi PanV
[13:02] <Industrial> I have a very large file (14k lines) that I need to share on gist, but I can't seem to get it there..
[13:02] <bulldog_58> I will give it a try now lotus
[13:02] <dv_> I saw something strange when trying to setup a netboot installation
[13:02] <EriC^^> PanV: yeah
[13:02] <dv_> the tty's only show a blank cursor after setting up X
[13:03] <Industrial> oh it's called `gist-paste`. How convenient.
[13:03] <Industrial> EriC^^: Thanks.
[13:03] <EriC^^> Industrial: no problem
[13:03] <PanV> It has a .lock thing on it and it wont let me rezise/add/remove partitions etc.
[13:03] <dv_> err, well, a display manager (lightdm). I wanted to get xenial netboot + cinnamon + lightdm running.
[13:03] <dv_> also, systemd cifs automounting does not work
[13:04] <vooze> Does anyone have an issue with wifi not working on 16.04 lockscreen? http://askubuntu.com/questions/760407/16-04-lightdmlockscreen-cant-connect-to-wifi-1-insufficient-privileges
[13:04] <nedstark> lotuspsychje, a correct referral would have been to #ubuntu+1 and #ubuntu-hardened
[13:08] <lotuspsychje> nedstark: im sure the hardened guys are already working on it
[13:08] <nedstark> people shouldn't be using it until it's fixed
[13:09] <PanV> I really don't want to screw up with GParted, can anybody help me with using it? I want to make a partition with 150 GB in it. What should I do and what boxes should I check?
[13:09] <lotuspsychje> nedstark: perhaps, but doesnt need to be discussed here
[13:09] <PanV> (150 GB/465 GB)
[13:11] <AnnoyedInAustral> Hey all, I was wondering if anyone has managed to get a working install of 16.04 with a nvidia card?
[13:13] <lotuspsychje> AnnoyedInAustral: do you have an issue on it?
[13:14] <AnnoyedInAustral> I've had issues with every distro for a while now. I'm a bit inexperienced however. It just crashes the system after I login to my account
[13:14] <AnnoyedInAustral> I tried using TTY to install some Nvidia drivers, no luck there either
[13:14] <lotuspsychje> AnnoyedInAustral: what kind of graphics card do you have?
[13:14] <AnnoyedInAustral> GTX 950
[13:15] <lotuspsychje> AnnoyedInAustral: tried a clean install 16.04 + cable enabled + updates + 3rd party software?
[13:16] <AnnoyedInAustral> Yeah, sure have
[13:16] <lotuspsychje> AnnoyedInAustral: did you try nomodeset to get in?
[13:17] <AnnoyedInAustral> No, I haven't. Not too sure what that is honestly
[13:17] <lotuspsychje> !nomodeset | AnnoyedInAustral
[13:17] <lotuspsychje> AnnoyedInAustral: perhaps you can bypass and get in, to install a driver
[13:18] <AnnoyedInAustral> Alright, thanks a bunch. I'll give that a shot as well
[13:19] <lotuspsychje> AnnoyedInAustral: there is also the #gamingonlinux channel if you like, those guys pretty up to date of latest drivers
[13:20] <AnnoyedInAustral> Thanks man, I'll give them a try as well
[13:20] <ggwr> I would like to download ubuntu 16.04 but i cant find any secure download link. Is it not possible to download ubuntu 16.04 from any secure source? https://releases.ubuntu.com/16.04/ubuntu-16.04-desktop-amd64.iso does not work
[13:21] <AnnoyedInAustral> Have you tried the torrent?
[13:21] <ggwr> AnnoyedInAustral: where is the https torrent download link?
[13:21] <cfhowlett> ggwr torrents rarely fail and are generally faster. use them
[13:21] <dv_> ha, got it - it was an /etc/network/interfaces <-> networkmanager conflict, preventing systemd from launching the ttys
[13:21] <ggwr> cfhowlett:  where is the https torrent download link?
[13:21] <dontknow> ggwr, there is no https page
[13:22] <ggwr> dontknow: and how did i know what i get?!
[13:22] <cfhowlett> ggwr, alternative downloads page
[13:22] <AnnoyedInAustral> http://releases.ubuntu.com/16.04/ubuntu-16.04-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent
[13:22] <AnnoyedInAustral> Is that what you're after?
[13:22] <dontknow> ggwr, there is signed shasums, you need to verify that after download
[13:22] <ggwr> AnnoyedInAustral: link didnt work: https://releases.ubuntu.com/16.04/ubuntu-16.04-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent
[13:23] <AnnoyedInAustral> Huh, weird
[13:23] <cfhowlett> ggwr, try without https://
[13:23] <ggwr> dontknow: where can i get them?
[13:23] <bulldog_58> lotus - I reinstalled the b43-installer, I will reboot and see where it takes me. Thanks for the help
[13:23] <lotuspsychje> bulldog_58: good luck
[13:23] <dontknow> ggwr, http://releases.ubuntu.com/16.04/
[13:24] <ggwr> cfhowlett: i am here because i am searching for a secured download link. if i wont care about https i wont be here. "try without security" is not the solution when i search for security
[13:24] <ggwr> dontknow: link didnt work: https://releases.ubuntu.com/16.04/
[13:24] <dontknow> ggwr, because there is no https page
[13:24] <lotuspsychje> !torrents | ggwr
[13:25] <dontknow> ggwr, why do you insist to download from https?
[13:25] <ggwr> lotuspsychje: the 3 links are all not https so useless for me. Is there ANY secure download place for ubuntu? I want to get the correct iso. not just "something" i dont know where i came from
[13:26] <AnnoyedInAustral> Can't you just check the hash?
[13:26] <bodom> Hi there! Is there an easy way to get back php5 after upgrade?
[13:26] <dontknow> ggwr, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto
[13:26] <ggwr> dontknow: because thats the only secured download way i could find
[13:27] <dontknow> ggwr, the real security comes with verifying. not https
[13:27] <cfhowlett> this ^^^
[13:27] <dontknow> you don't know what you are talking about
[13:27] <ggwr> dontknow: where can i get the SHA256SUMS  ?
[13:27] <ggwr> dontknow: and the SHA256SUMS.gpg
[13:27] <dontknow> ggwr,  http://releases.ubuntu.com/16.04/
[13:28] <AnnoyedInAustral> It's all there buddy
[13:28] <ggwr> dontknow: funny... i should download the verification from a unsecured connection. Thats not really what you mean, right?
[13:28] <lotuspsychje> bodom: its not recommended to downgrade packages
[13:29] <dontknow> ggwr, they are signed. it doesn't matter wheter you donwloaded from https or not
[13:29] <bodom> lotuspsychje: i still need php5 noadways :)
[13:30] <lotuspsychje> bodom: then install the ubuntu version with php5
[13:30] <dontknow> ggwr, you could download those files from a malware server and it would still be trusted verification
[13:30] <ggwr> dontknow: but anyone can put his self signed .gpg files to a insecured connection. who is signing them?
[13:30] <dontknow> ggwr, canonical
[13:30] <ggwr> dontknow: can i get the public key from canonical from a trusted connection?
[13:31] <bodom> lotuspsychje: ok. how do i downgrade back to 15.10?
[13:31] <cfhowlett> ggwr, this is the official canonical ubuntu download page.    https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes       not the lack of https://   informed users like you should have no issue with checking hashsums.
[13:31] <dontknow> ggwr, please read this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto
[13:32] <dontknow> ggwr, it doesn't matter from where you take the public key
[13:32] <ggwr> cfhowlett: i have no problem to check a hacksum but i cant find any hashsum over https.
[13:32] <lotuspsychje> bodom: also not recommended
[13:32] <lotuspsychje> !pinning | bodom try this at own risk
[13:33] <k1l> ggwr: the hashsums are signed. so there is no chance in m-i-m attack since the signing would break.
[13:33] <bodom> lotuspsychje: i din't understand your advice then
[13:33] <lotuspsychje> bodom: basicly it means you cannot mix ubuntu package versions
[13:34] <ggwr> dontknow: should i prove you that i can setup a MITM attack with fake public key from canonical, fake sha256sum, fake sha256sum.gpg and fake iso file? I dont understand why i cant get any proved files.
[13:34] <k1l> ggwr: while i agree, that in general https should be used. you are making a drama where no issue is at all.
[13:34] <lotuspsychje> bodom: so clean install 15.10, you cant downgrade
[13:34] <bodom> lotuspsychje: O_O clean install? ROTFL
[13:34] <ggwr> k1l: where can i get the public key from canonical from a secured connection to be able to prove it?
[13:34] <dontknow> ggwr, you need canonical's private key for that
[13:34] <bodom> lotuspsychje: no way, but thank you anyway for advice
[13:35] <AEL-H> can anyone see an issue with this script? it is put in /etc/init.d http://pastebin.com/V3AeGk0N
[13:35] <ggwr> dontknow: no, i dont need the private key. i just name it canonical release or something else. the sha256sum.gpg file would be then signed with this fake signature. thats nothing special. try that at home if you like.
[13:36] <jiffe> any idea why I can issue `service nvidia-digits-server stop` if I'm sshed into a machine, but from a local terminal I get Unknown job: nvidia-digits-server ?
[13:36] <lotuspsychje> bodom: try the pinning method then, if you dont wanna change ubuntu versions
[13:37] <nedstark> bodom, here's info on how to downgrade https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DowngradeHowto
[13:37] <bodom> nedstark: thank you
[13:37] <nedstark> method 2 is pinning
[13:38] <k1l> ggwr: please read this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto
[13:38] <lotuspsychje> bodom: make a backup before you try that lol
[13:38] <nedstark> make sure you use the correct repos, not hoary
[13:38] <Enissay> Hey guys, it would like to install ubuntu in dual boot with windows on a 90GB free ssd partition & 16GB ram system. I would go with "swap=8GB; /=10GB; /home=the rest", would it be fine ?
[13:38] <dontknow> k1l, i sent that page he doesn't listen
[13:39] <ggwr> k1l: i have read the page. There is "1 Download SHA256SUMS and SHA256SUMS.gpg, or MD5SUMS and MD5SUMS.gpg". And how can i get them from a secured connection?!
[13:39] <k1l> ggwr: stop it. if you read that page that would have answered your non-issue question
[13:40] <geirha> ggwr: https://keyserver.ubuntu.com/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xD94AA3F0EFE21092
[13:40] <ggwr> geirha: 0xFBB75451 and 0xEFE21092 ?
[13:40] <geirha> ggwr: the latter
[13:41] <geirha> ggwr: https://keyserver.ubuntu.com/pks/lookup?op=vindex&search=Ubuntu+CD+Image+Automatic+Signing+Key&fingerprint=on
[13:41] <ggwr> geirha: yes, 0xEFE21092. Thanks! That was the final solution! i can prove that with the https wiki page. now i can prove the insecured downloaded gpg files if they have this signature. finally i can build a provable chain of trust. I am surprised that nearly noone could understand my question here...
[13:42] <lotuspsychje> bodom: perhaps this would be more for you: http://askubuntu.com/questions/756879/cant-install-php5-on-ubuntu-16-04
[13:42] <k1l> ggwr: stop blaming others.
[13:43] <k1l> ggwr: the help page names exact those keys. but you were too busy ranting in here instead of reading that page.
[13:43] <ggwr> k1l: i dont know why anyone setup any http page any more in 2016...
[13:43] <bodom> lotuspsychje: the answer says "So, no, you can't install php5 on Ubuntu 16.04, but you can install PHP 7.0", seems useless :)
[13:43] <ggwr> k1l: i didnt knew that there is  https://keyserver.ubuntu.com
[13:43] <lotuspsychje> bodom: the point is, why cant you sue php7?
[13:43] <lotuspsychje> use
[13:44] <k1l> ggwr: what? you are making such accusations and drama in here, no knowing about keyservers?
[13:44] <ggwr> k1l: i know about keyservers. i didnt knew of the own ubuntu keyserver
[13:44] <vooze> Does anyone use wifi on ubuntu 16.04 and does your wifi work before logging in?
[13:45] <k1l> ggwr: the help page linked you to several times names that exact keyserver
[13:45] <meaning> hi there
[13:45] <meaning> I need some help with rm command
[13:45] <lotuspsychje> vooze: wich wifi chipset would that be?
[13:45] <meaning> I copied a lot of stuff by error in a folder
[13:45] <meaning> and now I'd like to remove all that stuff, but need to add some folder to exclude
[13:45] <vooze> lotuspsychje: both Intel and broadcom, tested on both desktop and laptop
[13:45] <meaning> is there a way to mention folders to exclude using rm ?
[13:45] <bekks> meaning: No.
[13:46] <k1l> ggwr: so you really really should step down from your "i dont need to read i know it all" horse. because that is exactly what the volunteers in here were telling you while you kept blaming them and ubuntu
[13:46] <vooze> lotuspsychje: I have written about it here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/760407/16-04-lightdmlockscreen-cant-connect-to-wifi-1-insufficient-privileges
[13:46] <meaning> bekks any other method available ?
[13:46] <bekks> meaning: Remove only foolders you want ro remove.
[13:47] <bodom> lotuspsychje: if you are asking, i suppose you do not know what PHP is. It is complicate, but I'll try to be concise. PHP is a scripting language, a toolset for creating software. Since I am a software developer, moving from PHP 5 to PHP 7 would require me to check every single software I have created in the last 10 years for compatibility.
[13:47] <meaning> yeah...Actually I did a rsync error...And I now have....2600 folders that I need to remove
[13:47] <ggwr> k1l: is there any reason not providint a https download page? i am probably ~1% of the users who check the signatures from all the prople who download the images.
[13:47] <lotuspsychje> vooze: can you try a sudo service network-manager restart ?
[13:47] <meaning> would be easier to just add some files to the exlude list and not see these ones being deleted...
[13:47] <meaning> :(
[13:47] <bekks> meaning: Thats not implemented.
[13:47] <vooze> lotuspsychje: from tty1 or something? This is before logging in.
[13:47] <lotuspsychje> bodom: one day, you will have to move to newer version anyway...
[13:47] <k1l> ggwr: server load and the fact that its mirrored on _a lot_ of different servers.
[13:48] <lotuspsychje> vooze: yeah but try after a login, it might do something usefull
[13:48] <vooze> lotuspsychje: I have a script on laptop to restart networkmanger.service after resume/suspend, but that does not affect lockscreen.
[13:49] <k1l> ggwr: if you want the technical answer file a bug
[13:49] <vooze> lotuspsychje: it works "fine" when I login, but not before.
[13:49] <lotuspsychje> vooze: ah ok, perhaps instead of the askubuntu, make it a real bug?
[13:49] <bodom> lotuspsychje: no, because most of these software are old and unmaintained. They will most probably just die in some years.
[13:49] <meaning> bekks, as I did run the rsync, and saw the mistake directly
[13:50] <meaning> rsync actually did create 2600 empty folders
[13:50] <vooze> lotuspsychje: will try how to figure it out :) thanks
[13:50] <meaning> then started copying
[13:50] <bekks> meaning: So remove the folders you dont want.
[13:50] <vooze> lotuspsychje: making a bug report that it.
[13:50] <meaning> so, is it already a good idea to run a rm -rfd ?
[13:50] <meaning> the empty diretories will all be deleted then, right ?
[13:50] <lotuspsychje> vooze: great tnx, helps the community
[13:50] <bekks> meaning: Do you know what -r, -f and -d do, in particular?
[13:50] <Annoyed> Hallo... A few days back, there was a patch to fix the badlock bug, that seems to have broken Samba; windows clients can't write to shares anymore.   Anyone know if they're working on a fix for that?
[13:50] <meaning> oops I mean rm -d
[13:50] <meaning> :)
[13:50] <bekks> meaning: Do you know what -d does, exactly?
[13:51] <meaning>   -d, --dir
[13:51] <meaning>               remove empty directories
[13:51] <meaning> should check for empty dirs and delete them if empty
[13:51] <lotuspsychje> bodom: how about a virtualbox 15.10 with a lower php?
[13:51] <meaning> isn't it ?
[13:51] <bekks> meaning: "should" :) Test your assumption before running it on your directoy structure. ;)
[13:52] <lotuspsychje> !badlock | Annoyed
[13:52] <vooze> lotuspsychje: should I file the bug against networkmananger or something else?
[13:52] <Annoyed> So, hopefully, a patch is forthcomimng to fix it so you can write to shares again?
[13:52] <lotuspsychje> vooze: i think so, as it affects your network icon before login right?
[13:52] <rbn42> exit
[13:53] <vooze> lotuspsychje: yes, I get the error message as soon as I even press the icon.
[13:53] <lotuspsychje> vooze: go for it :p
[13:53] <EriC^^> meaning: it's not recursive
[13:53] <EriC^^> meaning: try find /path -type d -empty
[13:54] <bodom> lotuspsychje: it's impractical for my needs. I've always avoided to use Virtual Machines when possible because they kill productivity. Best solution for me is to just stick to PHP5, and re-evaluate the situation every year.
[13:54] <meaning> actually...I can just open it using a ftp client, and list all the folder created at that exact time
[13:54] <meaning> looks like it will also do the trick
[13:54] <Annoyed> hmmmm I'm running 4.3.8, that seems to be what broke it
[13:54] <meaning> and I then have no risk to delete my config files recursively ;)
[13:54] <meaning> I prefer not to play the hero right now
[13:55] <bekks> meaning: So backup your config files as well.
[13:55] <ggwr> k1l, geirha: thanks!
[13:55] <lotuspsychje> bodom: 15.10 will be eol in the near future, perhaps think to go back to 14.04 then?
[13:57] <lotuspsychje> bodom: so you can use php5 for much longer then
[13:58] <vooze> lotuspsychje: you think it should be network-manager or network-manager-applet?
[13:58] <lotuspsychje> vooze: network-manager
[13:58] <bodom> lotuspsychje: will see what happens. Maybe i will just keep 15.10 after EOL. It's not that i like it, but sounds fair. Also, I am confident I am not alone and somebody will probably think of a better solution/more suitable distro in the near future.
[13:58] <vooze> lotuspsychje: okay :) thx
[13:59] <lotuspsychje> bodom: that would be a real bad idea to use eol version without updates
[14:00] <ralpheeee> o/ hi guys....whats the best way to install android studio 2.1
[14:00] <ralpheeee> i have installed 1.2 but it will not upg on 16.04
[14:00] <bodom> lotuspsychje: i agree. As much as bad as forcing php7-only into 16.04 :)
[14:01] <lotuspsychje> bodom: nobody forced you to 16.04....not ubuntu's fault
[14:01] <Annoyed>  /msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER Annoyed qahlopmvyygk
[14:02] <dota> hey guys, what's the default username and password of ubuntu 16.04?
[14:03] <Annoyed> dota: previous versions has been empty pass; root account disabled, you must sudo [command] or sudo su
[14:03] <bodom> lotuspsychje: that's arguable, but arguing it would be OT, i suppose. Anyway, I'll see what happens. I am confident there is a good php5 distro out there, just need to find it :)
[14:03] <lotuspsychje> bodom: there sure is! ubuntu desktop 14.04 :p
[14:05] <bekks> Annoyed: sudo su is quite nonsense, since there is sudo -i and sudo -s
[14:05] <dota> i'm trying "ubuntu 16.04 desktop" from a usb drive, the login screen asks me for username and password
[14:08] <dota> should i reboot into single user mode and reset the pass...  :(
[14:08] <lotuspsychje> dota: there should not be a login screen on livemode? where did you get the iso?
[14:08] <dota> from ubuntu official site
[14:08] <dota> i verified the md5sum
[14:08] <lotuspsychje> strange
[14:08] <vooze> lotuspsychje: sorry for asking again, but do you think this is fine? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/1574020
[14:10] <lotuspsychje> vooze: looks good, perhaps add you have a network-manager restart script also? and add a picture of the login screen without wifi?
[14:10] <Apachez> Annoyed: you nailed it
[14:15] <dota> i'm recreating the startup disk on another usb stick
[14:16] <bekks> dota: Why?
[14:16] <AEL-H> For some reason when dropbox is run through root, it syncs anything from dropbox to the box, but it will not sync any changes from the box to the dropbox server -- does anyone know why? When run as my normal user it syncs both ways
[14:17] <bekks> AEL-H: Do not run it as root.
[14:17] <dota> i don't know, just trying
[14:17] <bekks> dota: What for?
[14:17] <dota> the first usb stick won't let me login
[14:18] <AEL-H> bekks: but do you have any idea why that behaviour occurrs?
[14:18] <irgendwer4711> I have problems to execute 32 bit games: "screen 0 does not appear to be DRI2 capable"
[14:18] <lotuspsychje> vooze: add syslog and dmesg also perhaps?
[14:19] <bekks> AEL-H: I dont use dropbox as root.
[14:19] <edgar__> Bom dia a todos
[14:19] <lotuspsychje> !es | edgar__
[14:20] <edgar__> good mornig
[14:21] <dota> wahahaha
[14:21] <dota> i'm in
[14:22] <AEL-H> bekks: do you run dropbox on a headless server?
[14:22] <lotuspsychje> dota: how did you fix?
[14:23] <bekks> AEL-H: Why is that relevant? :)
[14:23] <jerome42> hi guys
[14:23] <dota> using a better usb stick :)
[14:24] <jerome42> I just update my ubntu gnome 15.10 to 16.04 , and my external screen is not working anymore. Didn't find anything on google nor in the logs . Any ideas?
[14:25] <claudio__> ciao a tutti
[14:25] <lotuspsychje> !it | claudio__
[14:26] <lotuspsychje> jerome42: how many screens you have?
[14:26] <jerome42> two : the laptop one and a hdmi one
[14:26] <AEL-H> bekks: I was just wondering if you are in a situation like me, essentially I can only access it by SSH thus in order to keep the process running I need to disown it so it doesnt receive a SIGHUP. But when I do this it only syncs one way -- same behaviour as running it as root
[14:26] <lotuspsychje> jerome42: tried an xrandr --auto ?
[14:27] <jerome42> don't return anything
[14:27] <lotuspsychje> jerome42: wich graphics card do you have?
[14:27] <jerome42> intel
[14:27] <bekks> AEL-H: In whatever situation I'm in, I am not using dropbox as root.
[14:27] <jerome42> and a nvidia one tht is disable
[14:27] <jerome42> xrandr (alone) don't show the external one
[14:28] <bekks> AEL-H: And since you cannot disown it, run it in a screen or tmux session.
[14:28] <deniz946_> hello, i've just installed ubuntu 15 and i can't see the items in my desktop, something bugged it up
[14:28] <deniz946_> it's not working even restarting the cmputer
[14:28] <bekks> deniz946_: which 15? 15.04 or 14.10?
[14:28] <deniz946_> any help please?
[14:28] <bekks> *15.10
[14:29] <deniz946_> 15.10
[14:29] <EriC^^> deniz946_: what items on your desktop?
[14:29] <jerome42> lotuspsychje :  http://pastebin.com/hCELs3dE
[14:29] <deniz946_> folders, some files
[14:29] <jerome42> I don't known where the second hdmi come from, only have on
[14:29] <jerome42> one
[14:29] <EriC^^> deniz946_: it's not a fresh install?
[14:29] <lotuspsychje> jerome42: did you try the --auto option after?
[14:29] <deniz946_> EriC^^, yes it is
[14:30] <jerome42> lotuspsychje, yep, it don't return anything
[14:30] <EriC^^> deniz946_: there isn't anything on the desktop in unity, just a launcher on the left and a bar at the top
[14:30] <deniz946_> yes but i've downloaded some pdfs
[14:30] <EriC^^> deniz946_: they go in ~/Downloads
[14:30] <deniz946_> They'r in my desktop...
[14:30] <jerome42> lotuspsychje,  "xrandr --listmonitors" only return the internal monitors
[14:30] <EriC^^> deniz946_: ~/Desktop has them?
[14:31] <deniz946_> EriC^^, http://paste.ubuntu.com/16004705/
[14:32] <deniz946_> thats the ls Desktop input
[14:32] <claudio__> .xchat2/budus.so
[14:32] <deniz946_> i've installed dolphin and deleted nautilis, you think that should be from it? installed zsh too
[14:32] <lotuspsychje> jerome42: not sure, perhaps something in xorg scrambled, check your graphics drivers, or lightdm restart?
[14:32] <deniz946_> and node, npm, bower vlc, kodi
[14:32] <noobies> Hi all, need your help
[14:33] <EriC^^> deniz946_: i dont think so, try reinstalling nautilus though
[14:33] <jerome42> lotuspsychje, already check, it's uptodate, restarting gdm /rebooting don't change it
[14:33] <noobies> Previously, I used GParted to resize my System partition and try to add it into my Data partition.
[14:33] <deniz946_> it was nautilus e_e
[14:33] <noobies> Unfortunately something bad happened and GParted no longer works.
[14:33] <lotuspsychje> jerome42: and it worked on your intel one on 15.10?
[14:33] <claudio__> .xchat2/budus.so
[14:33] <EriC^^> deniz946_: aha
[14:34] <jerome42> yep
[14:34] <deniz946_> I've my desktop back now, so nautilus manages the desktop, i can see
[14:34] <jerome42> lotuspsychje, it's work actually really great, out of the box
[14:34] <Ranger_GUI> Guys I found teaching link for Unix language better than the one provided from Ubuntu : http://www.ee.surrey.ac.uk/Teaching/Unix/unix1.html
[14:34] <noobies> When I open it again using GParted I found my Data partition marked as Unknown by GParted and can not be accessed.
[14:34] <deniz946_> Thanks you eric
[14:34] <noobies> I already using TestDisk and it show that both boot sector and backup boot sector is bad
[14:34] <noobies> anyone can help me?
[14:34] <deniz946_> gonna restart to check if all is ojk
[14:35] <lotuspsychje> jerome42: i would try enable nvidia + install nvidia-prime
[14:35] <claudio__> .xchat2/budus.so
[14:35] <noobies> anyone?
[14:35] <lotuspsychje> jerome42: ill have to go, ioria will take over :p
[14:35] <jerome42> lotuspsychje, already using nvidia-prime to disable the nvidia card, enabling nvidia don't seems to work (I'm not the only one according to forum)
[14:35] <jerome42> ok, thax any way ;)
[14:36] <ioria> :þ
[14:36] <lotuspsychje> ioria: upgraded wily to xenial, no 2nd screen anymore over hdmi on intel/nvidia only intel enabled
[14:36] <lotuspsychje> laterz
[14:36] <ioria> lotuspsychje, i see
[14:37] <noobies> lotuspsychje can you help me?
[14:37] <noobies> lotuspsychje: can you help me?
[14:39] <jerome42> ioria : any ideas ;) ?
[14:39] <ioria> jerome42, try to back-up /etc/X11/xorg.cong if you have one
[14:39] <jerome42> I'm updating to the last nvidia driver with ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa
[14:40] <jerome42> no xorg.conf
[14:40] <jerome42> it's probably a driver issue, either on intel or nvidia side
[14:40] <ioria> jerome42, can you paste sudo lshw -c Video  ?
[14:42] <jerome42> ioria : http://pastebin.com/q4c8raWR
[14:43] <ioria> jerome42, and with just the intel card , 2° monitor not working ?
[14:44] <jerome42> ioria, nvidia card is disable with nvidia-prime, so yep, not working with intel
[14:44] <jerome42> siwtching to nvidia card don't work, X don't start (known problem on ask ubuntu)
[14:45] <ioria> jerome42, xrandr or systemsettings > display  show the other screen ?
[14:45] <jerome42> no
[14:45] <claudio__> usa BuDuScRiPt [ http://digilander.libero.it/udasoft/Software/Linux/buduscript ]
[14:45] <claudio__> Version 3.7.86
[14:45] <claudio__> By  U D A ' S o f t w a r e
[14:45] <ioria> jerome42, unplug replug cable ?
[14:45] <jerome42> xrandr show the HDMI port as disconnected (and show 2 ports while I Only have one), settings show only one screen
[14:45] <jerome42> already tried :)
[14:45] <reveredge> hey
[14:46] <reveredge> I want the list of files accessed by a command. Is there any way?
[14:46] <jerome42> reveredge, lsof | grep "your command"
[14:46] <dota> damn. my pc went dead again.
[14:47] <dota> i was trying to play a movie
[14:47] <Cloudblow> jerome42: me too, I have black screen with nvidia driver geforce 750m
[14:48] <jerome42> Cloudblow, I'm downloading the 364 driver now
[14:48] <reveredge> jerome42, the proccess has stopped.
[14:48] <Cloudblow> I try it yet and don't work too
[14:48] <jerome42> Cloudblow, with this ppa ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa
[14:48] <dota> i have only intel i5 intergrated graphic
[14:48] <ioria> jerome42, it should work with intel although
[14:48] <reveredge> jerome42, is there any other application with which I can run a command, and it tracks which file it opens
[14:49] <jerome42> Cloudblow, did you disable the UEFI secure boot
[14:49] <jerome42> ioria, indeed
[14:49] <dota> i've tried ubuntu 14.04, 15.10, and now 16.04
[14:49] <dota> even tried recompile the kernel
[14:49] <Reptilia> I fixed the issue with the Wi-Fi not connecting doing the following: Opened "Software and Updates" ---> Selected "Using Processor microcode firmware for Intel CPUs from intel-microcode (proprietary) instead of the pre-selected "Do not use the device".
[14:49] <jerome42> reveredge, try without the "
[14:50] <ioria> jerome42, in the worse case, boot a live xerus 16.04 and test
[14:50] <jerome42> ioria, good idea
[14:50] <ioria> jerome42, or boot in text mode
[14:51] <noobies> jerome42: can you help me with bad boot sector?
[14:52] <pijinn> hello, I've been having issues opening games through Steam, as in a blank window flashes and then nothing, no error codes er anything, same thing with GameVox. I just installed 16.04 MATE. any suggestions?
[14:52] <jerome42> noobies, what's the problem ?
[14:52] <Reptilia> What is the new package name for XChat?
[14:52] <dbz2k> hello
[14:52] <jerome42> Reptilia :  I used xchat-gnome
[14:52] <Reptilia> jerome42:I am on Xubuntu
[14:52] <dbz2k> I'm on ubuntu 16.04 I have wifi suspended issues
[14:52] <Cloudblow> jerome42: I've try without efi, nomodeset in cmd line and few driver nvidia version from ppa
[14:53] <jerome42> Cloudblow, ok :(
[14:53] <Cloudblow> jerome42: have you find a solution?
[14:53] <dontknow> Reptilia, hexchat
[14:53] <Reptilia> dbz2k:Could you describe the problem with more detail?
[14:53] <jerome42> so 16.04 is trylly a LTS, full of bugs :)
[14:53] <noobies> jerome42: Previously I used GParted to resize the System partition and try to move it into Data partition (/home). Unfortunately GParted stop working and now my Data partition marked as Unknown and can not be accessed.
[14:54] <Reptilia> dontknow:Isn't that the Windows alternative to the Linux-exclusive XChat?
[14:54] <noobies> jerome42: I already try to use TestDisk but still no clue. When I try to use List, there is no file found.
[14:54] <dbz2k> Reptilia, I'm I have a broadcom bcm4321, and when I wake from sleep it thinks its on an Ethernet connection.
[14:54] <dontknow> Reptilia, no. it is a cross platform client
[14:54] <Cloudblow> jerome42: this is only my problem, with Intel cpu I'm really satisfated for performance and stability
[14:55] <Reptilia> dontknow:So, XChat is not developed anymore, or?
[14:55] <dbz2k> Reptilia, i'm using the firmware-b43-installer drivers
[14:55] <dontknow> Reshesnik, yes xchat isn't being developed anymore
[14:55] <Reptilia> All right.
[14:56] <noobies> SV
[14:56] <jerome42> noobies, really no idea, but that don't seems good
[14:56] <jerome42> Cloudblow, performance seems good too on intel, just this dual screen issue. I don't really need the nvidia driver
[14:56] <noobies> jerome42: thanks. do you have any friend that specialize in data recovery?
[14:56] <jerome42> noobies, nope, sorry
[14:57] <i> how can i search for apps
[14:57] <alive876> hi i am trying to cd into a "dir" but  seems it isn't a dir because it wont let me, which i assume is some kind of  symbolic link, how do i cd into that area (where there are files I need))
[14:58] <dcarmich> I was able to get Ubuntu 16.04 running in a VMware VM, and am currently using it with a 2560x1200 HiDPI display. But, when I start the VM the login screen is in a very low resolution. Is there a way to make the login screen take the same resolution as the desktop?
[14:58] <SchrodingersScat> !packages | Guest81805: there's several ways, software center, apt-cache, probably apt, etc.
[14:58] <Guest81805> in software center theres not the button of "SEARCH"
[14:59] <dbz2k> Reptilia, any idea if the broadcom issues are from the kernel?
[14:59] <SchrodingersScat> Guest81805: I prefer apt-cache anyway, haven't opened software-center in ages ;_;
[15:00] <Reptilia> dbz2k:No idea, i had a problem with getting the Wi-Fi to work, and i fixed it with just telling the OS to actually USE the drivers, lol. It was set not to use them, by default.
[15:00] <Guest81805> is there the app that changes our vpn? since ubuntu is an open os, vpn should be free to, so i thought.
[15:00] <pauljw> Guest81805, there is a search area at the top of the screen in software center
[15:00] <ssarah> Hei, guys, whats the procedure to get a package to be updated in the repository
[15:00] <Guest81805> pauljw no there is not
[15:01] <Reptilia> Guest81805:I doubt that you should bring conclusions like that :D
[15:01] <pauljw> Guest81805, sorry, there is in mine
[15:01] <ssarah> i want to use the latest version of testdisk, i know i can just download a tar, but how can i make so it is updated int he repositories? latest version is from one year ago..
[15:01] <Guest81805> reptilia, what do you mean???
[15:01] <Guest81805> Reptilia*
[15:02] <dbz2k> Reptilia, whats the best way to create that restarts this service "systemctl restart network-manager.service" this is how I sorta of fix the problem?
[15:02] <Guest81805> oh why did she quit
[15:02] <dbz2k> script
[15:03] <Guest81805> is anyone there?
[15:03] <zykotick9> !latest | ssarah
[15:04] <one> yes
[15:06] <ssarah> Hei, zykotick9 I know that. But who actually gets a package updated?
[15:06] <ssarah> Debian people?
[15:07] <zykotick9> ssarah: ubuntu pulls from debian's testing/unstable branches... so yes, new versions arrive in debian first.  are you _sure_ you need new version of X?
[15:07] <ssarah> Just trying to get an idea of how it works. I know most people either resorts to ppas or backport.
[15:08] <YouriLigotme> hi, i'm upgrading ubuntu server from 14.04 to 16.04 using "do-release-upgrade", downloading packages worked fine, but when installing, it is currently stuck on "Checking init scripts..." for 15 minutes now
[15:08] <ssarah> zykotick9, I read the release notes and found a bunch of keywords that could affect me. So the answer is maybe. But I'm doing this out of curiosity. testdisk is mostly just one bin that can run out of a bios bootstrap so i was wondering who updates this things.
[15:08] <ldsh> Hi, I was wondering, couldn't it be possible to ease the deployment (and reduce costs) of updates and upgrades by merging the good bandwidth of the depots servers and technologies like torrents?
[15:09] <davido> !ot |ldsh
[15:09] <zykotick9> ssarah: it's ubuntu devs that choose what version(s) to use...  so ultimately it's ubuntu's devs decisions.
[15:10] <ldsh> davido, Oh, I did not considered that as being ot, wouldn't it be better suited in Ubuntu-dev then?
[15:11] <colutov> Hi. I've a weird problem. I've delete libsane-common via dpkg --force-depends and tried to reinstall it via apt-get install -f. But it seems, the files in /etc are not written anymore.
[15:12] <colutov> although they are part of the package (dpkg -L lists them). wtf is happening? how can I get back those files?
[15:12] <davido> Well it's not really a matter of support. Perhaps #ubuntu-discuss
[15:12] <davido> or perhaps some prior research into who manages the download repositories and torrents.
[15:13] <ssarah> zykotick9, i see. So as a user, if I want to be expedient and make sure my favorite packages are updated/tested. How can i contribute to that effect?
[15:13] <ssarah> go to #debian and push from there ? XP
[15:14] <ldsh> davido, yes, not really support, but more discussion about possible improvement, and informations on why it wouldn't be a good idea (if such)
[15:14] <davido> So as 'not really support', ot for "Official Ubuntu Support Channel"
[15:16] <ldsh> davido, thanks for your support redirecting me to the more suitable discuss (I did not knew, and I think it suits in deed better)
[15:17] <bauerj> is there any way to install 16.04 server on ZFS?
[15:17] <MonkeyDust> !zfs
[15:17] <zykotick9> ssarah: i'd suspect, the best you could do, would be to file a wishlist bug with ubuntu.  i'd strongly suggest against, bothering the debian packages...  but debian's unstable branch is pretty bleeding-edge (as is ubuntu, in _my_ opinion).  note, if you do start manually installing things yourself, be sure to checkout checkinstall.
[15:17] <zykotick9> s/debian packages/debian packagers/
[15:18] <bauerj> MonkeyDust: that explains how to use ZFS with ubuntu but not if the root partition can be ZFS
[15:18] <stormanka> Partition scheme for ubuntu server need feedback: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16005880/
[15:19] <bauerj> my problem currently is that the installer doesn't provide an option to use ZFS for the root FS
[15:20] <ssarah> zykotick9, like i said, im mostly trying to figure things out. I'm sure someone has this task already. I was wandering how I could help if I wished. I'm gona try asking in #debian first. Ty mate :X
[15:22] <jerome42> ioria :  I solve the problem with booting on an older kernal, It work directly,w ith changing any config
[15:24] <WoLf> Hello, I was trying to compile a .net app in ubuntu 15.10.. When I run xbuild I get an error about "Invalid -langversion option `6'".. I'm new to mono, anyone could help?
[15:25] <braycep> but what can talk with?
[15:26] <ldsh> bauerj, I did successfully circumvent this kind of issue for F2FS by installing first in ext4, than copying all the datas to the F2FS partition and updating all the required files. The boot partition was separated. I however hope you can have a more direct solution for ZFS.
[15:26] <braycep> interesting
[15:27] <bauerj> ldsh: thanks, that should work I guess
[15:27] <braycep> so,how many people used QQ
[15:27] <bauerj> although it is a bit awkward if that's the only way
[15:28] <MonkeyDust> what's QQ
[15:28] <ioria> jerome42, great, good job
[15:28] <jerome42> ioria, I"m trying the 4.5 now, I will give a feedback here
[15:28] <braycep> easy to talk with friends,in China
[15:28] <ioria> jerome42, thanx
[15:29] <cfhowlett> braycep, more support over in #ubuntu-kylin
[15:30] <braycep> cfhowlett?
[15:30] <cfhowlett> http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/ubuntu-kylin
[15:30] <braycep> so,how can I talk with my friends here?
[15:31] <cfhowlett> braycep, this is the tech support channel.  chitchat elsewhere or use a private channel
[15:31] <cfhowlett> !ot
[15:32] <braycep> yes,I got it
[15:34] <WoLf> Did I ask in the wrong channel? or just bad luck with timing? =)
[15:34] <braycep> about ubuntu,I cannot install the Ubuntu-tweak
[15:34] <ldsh> bauerj, Yes, this is not the optimal solution, but at the time I did it, I think it was the only way for F2FS. Maybe this can help: https://github.com/zfsonlinux/pkg-zfs/wiki/HOWTO-install-Ubuntu-16.04-to-a-Native-ZFS-Root-Filesystem
[15:35] <alive876_> hi, i have a directory where when i ls a number of listings come up, but wont let me cd into them "no such file or directory" however i can see there are files under them in the ide, how do i access them in the terminal? thanks
[15:35] <MonkeyDust> braycep  in which ubuntu version?
[15:35] <Enissay> Hi guys, I just installed ubuntu 16.04 allongside win8.1, though, when installation finished, my computer booted directly to windows, no grub at all :-/  (I tried to use boot-repair from the live-cd but I couldn't launch it, apparently not available yet for 16.04); could you please tell me what I'm missing ? I can re-install again if I missed some step :x
[15:36] <braycep> 16.04 LTS
[15:36] <pauljw> WoLf, try ##mono
[15:36] <WoLf> Thanks pauljw, I'll try there =)
[15:36] <pauljw> np
[15:37] <braycep> Enissay,maybe you could creat a new disk area
[15:37] <braycep> with FAT32 to install Ubuntu
[15:39] <YouriLigotme> i'm upgrading ubuntu server from 14.04 to 16.04 using "do-release-upgrade", downloading packages worked fine, but when installing, it is currently stuck on "Checking init scripts..." for 45 minutes now
[15:39] <MonkeyDust> braycep  yes, you can read the error when ubuntu-tweak launches ... ubuntu-tweak requires gir1.2-vte-2.90, but xenial has vte-2.91 ... ubuntu-tweak is not ready yet for xenial
[15:39] <YouriLigotme> i think that doing ctrl+c is a bad idea, so i'd rather not do it
[15:39] <YouriLigotme> the upgrade process uses only 3% CPU
[15:39] <Enissay> What do you mean ? I already installed it on the free 99GB partition I had (swap, root & /home)
[15:40] <Enissay> braycep, ^
[15:40] <braycep>  Thanks for your suguestions
[15:41] <braycep> Enissay,there is three System in my computer,Win10/Win10/Ubuntu
[15:45] <braycep> another question,how can I play the video on the Internet
[15:46] <braycep> 有人会说中文不？
[15:46] <MonkeyDust> !cn
[15:46] <cfhowlett> braycep, go to the chinese language channel
[15:46] <braycep> sorry
[15:47] <mrFake> Hey guys, I have this strange problem on 14.04 when my desktop icons goes missing, everything works, but I don't see any of my desktop icons. I am not on a different workspace.
[15:47] <mrFake> How can I fix this?
[15:49] <Cedara> mrFake: happened to me too once or twice or so, I usually reboot, then everything is back (there's probably a cooler way to solve it for good though)
[15:49] <davido> mrFake: Do they come back if you ctrl-alt-f1 then ctrl-alt-f7?
[15:52] <Guest45944> hello
[15:52] <Desu> Guest45944: 1. don't irc as root 2. fix your nick
[15:57] <Guest68449> \nick dan
[15:57] <Guest68449> ups, sorry
[15:58] <alive876_> hi, how can i tell the difference between a direcroty and a link? i have a number of listings i cant cd into
[15:58] <dantheman> Hi, in terms of GUI, the links, have a small arrow on the bottom right corner if i'm right
[15:58] <dantheman> and in terms of CLI
[15:59] <dantheman> links are marked with a different collor
[15:59] <dantheman> and if you do a ls
[15:59] <dantheman> you will see a sl I think or something, usualy you deal with symbolic liks
[15:59] <deadmund> ls -l and you will see little pointers
[15:59] <dantheman> links*
[15:59] <neo_> hi
[15:59] <alive876_> yea, they are a different color, bt how do i follow them, beccause i need to copy files
[16:00] <davido> alive876_ if they link to a directory cd-ing into them should be seamless.
[16:00] <dantheman> I think you can use the test command let me see
[16:00] <deadmund> alive876_: You don't need to do anything to "follow them" that's just what happens when you do stuff to them.  What are you trying to do specifically??
[16:00] <frostschutz> alive876_, stat -L thing
[16:00] <alive876_> well i need to run the files as programs
[16:01] <deadmund> alive876_: You need to run them?  Then just cd to the folder containing the link and do ./nameOfLink
[16:01] <deadmund> alive876_: If it points to a file that can be run, it will work
[16:02]  * deadmund upgrades to 16.04 woot
[16:02] <dantheman> I want to finnaly move to ubuntu from windows but I still have some qestions some of which were answered. But I want to ask you guys. What do you think about compiz?
[16:03] <alive876_> here is what i get when i do stat -L http://pastebin.com/V2cmhVYX
[16:03] <mrFake> Cedara, davido: restart fixes it, alt-ctrl-f1 didn't fixed it
[16:03] <deadmund> dantheman: Pretty cool.  Kind of gawdy though :P
[16:03] <deadmund> dantheman: What do you think of it?
[16:03] <mrFake> I really don't want to keep restarting machine every day or so, so I am looking for a terminal solution ;]
[16:03] <dantheman> deadmund: I mean, I like it but only Canonical takes care of the code, Mutter and Kwin look more, up to date
[16:03] <alive876_> sorry i mean i need to work on these files
[16:04] <rud0lf> alive876_: i think you need to add backslash "\" before any spac
[16:04] <rud0lf> *space
[16:04] <dantheman> deadmund: And don't you find GTK3 apps like Gnome Disks to look horible wrapped like that
[16:04] <dantheman> deadmund: The menu bar is to huge!!
[16:04] <deadmund> dantheman: yeah, compiz is getting kind of crusty.  I don't follow that closley.  I have moved to kwin (functionally it's pretty similar)
[16:04] <deadmund> dantheman: "wrapped" ?  I think GTK3 apps look bad cause they waste so much space.  I use KDE
[16:04] <davido> dantheman : The window manager for Ubuntu is somewhat a matter of choice. Unlike Windows (the operating system) where the GUI is tightly coupled, with Linux, you can choose your kernel, and choose your gui.
[16:04] <MonkeyDust> i no longer use unity
[16:05] <deadmund> dantheman: Indeed, switch the DE if you don't like gnome / unity / compiz.
[16:05] <dantheman> Yes but I'm a little stange so to say, I enjoy freedom but I think we are to fragmented in the linux world
[16:05] <deadmund> alive876_: Why do you have that /Logging at the end?
[16:05] <dantheman> So I whould like the default  solution to be the best
[16:06] <davido> dantheman : fragmentation to one is prolific innovation to another. And features get stolen back and forth all the time.
[16:07] <deadmund> dantheman: The strength of Linux is not a very solid default, but rather an extremely customizable base.  If you don't want to tweak / tinker, Linux is the wrong OS for you.
[16:07] <pauljw> dantheman, so you just want what's best for you, freedom is messy, go with it...
[16:07] <deadmund> dantheman: In my opinion.
[16:07] <YouriLigotme> debconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process: Resource temporarily unavailable
[16:07] <davido> There is no best for everyone. If we tried to shoehorn everyone into a single paradigm we would have Windows.
[16:07] <dantheman> Ok, grub, 16.04 LTS and still grub2 beta, I mean look at your grub version!
[16:07] <YouriLigotme> how do I solve this? when using apt-get -f install
[16:07] <davido> So is this a support question, dantheman? When you use "your", it becomes a rant, right?
[16:08] <dantheman> sorry
[16:08] <davido> #ubuntu-discuss might be more appropriate.
[16:08] <deadmund> YouriLigotme: you have some other program / process accessing that file.  You can a) figure out what process it is and end / kill it,  b) restart the machine (will probably not restart that process)
[16:08] <alive876_> i guess these are direcrories with  a lot of spaces in their names, but i dont know how to handle that in the terminal
[16:08] <davido> backslash in front of spaces
[16:08] <davido> or tab-complete
[16:09] <deadmund> alive876_: Either use backslace, or put the entire path in quotes
[16:09] <deadmund> alive876_: using tab-complete makes it a lot easier.
[16:09] <alive876_> ok
[16:09] <YouriLigotme> deadmund: yeah but i'm having libc issues, a restart would be fatal
[16:09] <deadmund> YouriLigotme: Then figure out the process accessing that file and kill it.
[16:09] <Bushman> hi guys
[16:09] <Bushman> weird problem... USB HID joystick is missing axes, also at the same time it's superimposing the data from the missing axes onto the existing axes
[16:09] <deadmund> Bushman: hello
[16:09] <davido> YouriLigotme If a reboot would be fatal, it's time to do a backup, and now.
[16:10] <dantheman> davido: It's a general question, why is grub on a beta version, in 16.04. Same version as 14.04 I think.
[16:10] <YouriLigotme> I found the process
[16:10] <YouriLigotme> yeah but the apt-get -f install is doing the same "Checking init scripts" issue again
[16:10] <YouriLigotme> libc complains that kernel version is not supported, then that check hangs
[16:10] <YouriLigotme> (OpenVZ kernel)
[16:10] <davido> So not a support question. A "why is it this way" question. #ubuntu-discuss
[16:11] <YouriLigotme> I did ask my VPS host and they say there are no known problems with Ubuntu 16.04
[16:11] <alive876_> putting it in quotes doesnt work
[16:12] <Bushman> every program is reporting only 2 axes, the behaviour is consistent between softwares, so i asume it could be the driver problem... but since it's USB HID (ergo standard) device that works with other kernel versions / OSes it mist be something iwth the 4.2.0 kernel's driver for joysticks or something. Help?
[16:12] <davido> Is there a $ in the filename, alive876_? Maybe tell us what is the filename.
[16:12] <Condar|Busy> I'm trying to get my terminal to beep correctly. I've looked in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf and it says over pcspkr to use 'nice pulseaudio bing', any advice? I'm running 14.04, and this is the advice I found online
[16:13] <alive876_> hi
[16:13] <davido> Is there a $ in the filename, alive876_? Maybe tell us what is the filename.
[16:14] <YouriLigotme> this is the log of "dpkg --configure -a": http://paste.ubuntu.com/16007356/
[16:14] <alive876_> here is a file name /home/ubuntu/workspace/Getting-Started-with-hapi.js/- Introduction/
[16:14] <davido> so that's a directory, right?
[16:14] <davido> (or a symlink to one)
[16:14] <alive876_> directory yes
[16:14] <alive876_> yes
[16:15] <Apachez> any of you who knows if there exists a fork of UCK (Ubuntu Customization Kit)? Seems like it got discontinued at aug 2015 and is broken now
[16:15] <davido> ls -l /home/ubuntuworkspace/Getting-Started-withhapi.js/-\ Introduction/
[16:15] <davido> sorry, i missed a / between ubuntu and workspace
[16:16] <davido> the point is escape the whitespace with a backslash in front of it.
[16:16] <Bushman> anyone?
[16:17] <alive876_> hi
[16:17] <YouriLigotme> https://www.lowendtalk.com/discussion/81725/upgrading-to-ubuntu-xenial-16-04-lts-on-openvz-rhel-2-6-32-kernel-vps
[16:17] <davido> alive876_ Why do you keep saying hi?
[16:17] <YouriLigotme> this seems to say that my VPS is basically bricked
[16:17] <Cedara> Sorry, Bushman can't help you there.
[16:17] <YouriLigotme> now to find a solution to do a full backup
[16:17] <alive876_> cannot access /home/ubuntu/workspace/Getting-Started-with-hapi.j/ls:
[16:17] <YouriLigotme> any quick and easy ones?
[16:18] <alive876_> it weird, when i paste something in here and return it doen't post, thats all
[16:19] <alive876_> here is what i get ls: cannot access /home/ubuntu/workspace/Getting-Started-with-hapi.js/-: No such file or directory
[16:20] <davido> cd /home/ubuntu/workspace/Getting-Started-with-happi.js
[16:20] <fortean_dad> anyone know why my wireless nic doesn't appear as wlan0 in 16.04? it used to in 14.04
[16:20] <davido> same problem?
[16:20] <akik> alive876_: your directory starts with a - escape it too
[16:21] <deadmund> fortean_dad: what does it show up as?
[16:21] <Condar|Busy> anyone have any advice for 'pulesaudio bing'?
[16:21] <fortean_dad> deadmund: wlp5s0 - it works fine just wondering why the naming convention has changed
[16:21] <alive876_> here is what i get :    /home/ubuntu/workspace/Getting-Started-with-hapi.js/- Introduction/                                                                                                      bash: cd: /home/ubuntu/workspace/Getting-Started-with-hapi.js/-: No such file or directory
[16:22] <deadmund> fortean_dad: Oh!  I don't know why the name changed.  I guess that wlp5s0 just has a better ring to it :P
[16:22] <davido> yes, because you failed to put a backslash in front of the space that preceeds Introcution
[16:22] <fortean_dad> deadmund: yeah it just rolls off the tongue :-)
[16:22] <deadmund> Condar|Busy: Have you tried to modprobe pcspkr ?
[16:22] <DrunkenDwarf> Hi all. I'm currently about to install ubuntu 14.04 on an Asus chromebook. .. Am I right in thinking that crouton runs ubuntu alongside of chomeos rather than replacing it?
[16:23] <deadmund> DrunkenDwarf: You should not install 14.04 because it is going to EOL if about 6 mo and 16.04 was released two days ago
[16:23] <DrunkenDwarf> what? I though LTS meant Long term?
[16:23] <alive876_> here     $ cd /home/ubuntu/workspace/Getting-Started-with-hapi.js/-\ Introduction/     no such file ..
[16:23] <pauljw> deadmund, it is not, 14.04 is supported till 2019
[16:24] <peetbog> 14.04 is lts
[16:24] <brainwash> !lts
[16:24] <davido> Then there IS no such file.  how about cd /home/ubuntu/workspace/Getting-Started-with-hapi.js
[16:24] <davido> then ls
[16:24] <akik> alive876_: your directory starts with a - escape it too
[16:24] <deadmund> pauljw: really?  Oh!  You're right! http://www.ubuntu.com/info/release-end-of-life  thanks
[16:24] <Reptilia> Wi-Fi functionality still not working. Allthough i've succeeded fixing it on Xubuntu, on Ubuntu it is still the same.
[16:25] <Reptilia> Although*
[16:25] <alive876_> well it shows p fine in the ide
[16:25] <DrunkenDwarf> but regardless of ubuntu version (id prefer 14.04), the question still stands
[16:25] <deadmund> alive876_: You're just not getting the full path name correct.  I'm sure the file exists, you just don't know the path to it exactly.
[16:25] <davido> akik: Can you demonstrate how that matters?
[16:25] <alive876_> but the ide doesnt let me move file
[16:25] <mcphail> DrunkenDwarf: crouton is a hack, rather than a method of installing Ubuntu which can be supported here. You would have to ask the crouton developers
[16:26] <alive876_> yes i know
[16:26] <alive876_> but quotes do not work in this case
[16:26] <deadmund> alive876_: Why don't you just move it with nautilus?
[16:26] <mcphail> DrunkenDwarf: as far as I am aware, it is more of a chroot than a replacement for chromeos
[16:26] <DrunkenDwarf> mcphail, well, what I'd prefer is to clear ChromOS and just have a flat Ubuntu install, but i dont know how well supported that is
[16:27] <davido> if ......./-\ Introduction/ doesn't seem to exist, cd into its parent directory and ls. see what you see.  Perhaps that whitespace is some unicode character.
[16:27] <alive876_> like a esult of ls  -xr-x  5 ubuntu ubuntu 4096 Apr 21 00:31 Chapter 1 - Introduction/
[16:27] <akik> davido: $ cd "- test"    bash: cd: - : invalid option
[16:27] <Kubius> hello!
[16:27] <alive876_> i am in cloud9
[16:27] <davido> akik cd foo/-test
[16:27] <mcphail> DrunkenDwarf: I'm not sure you _can_ do that, unfortunately
[16:28] <Kubius> I just updated to wily and I'm having some issues with dell_smm_hwmon
[16:28] <Kubius> it keeps saying "unable to get SMM Dell Signature" every time I boot up
[16:28] <Reptilia> Lol, why is "Ubuntu Software" so poorly loaded with apps?
[16:28] <euanthe> May I ask here a tech-support question or is there another channel for that?
[16:28] <newbeformnow> Hello, I have a pre encrypted disk , How i can install ubntu 16.04 in it ?
[16:28] <Kubius> I can still enter the OS, but I'm afraid the fans can't throttle up
[16:28] <akik> alive876_: you can also use -- in between the cd command and the path
[16:29] <davido> this is unnecessary
[16:29] <Kubius> anyone here experienced with i8k / dell_smm_hwmon?
[16:29] <ssarah> newbeformnow, who is handling the encryption? the bios?
[16:29] <newbeformnow> ssarah: it's a luksfs encrypted disk
[16:29] <alive876_> -- ?
[16:29] <newbeformnow> with lvm
[16:30] <alive876_> like cd -- dir  ?
[16:30] <pauljw> Reptilia, install synaptic package manager, it shows that there almost 54000 packages available.
[16:30] <davido> yes, unnecessary. You're not trying to cd -foo, you are trying to cd some/path/-foo, which is just fine.
[16:30] <akik> alive876_: yes -- stops the shell from interpreting the -
[16:30] <Reptilia> pauljw:Thanks
[16:30] <Awmusic12635> I have a question regarding getting a dhcp client to work on ubuntu 16.04. Posted it here for better formatting: https://paste.ee/p/3TmNV
[16:30] <fortean_dad> deadmund: i've just seen that the naming was changed when systemd was stuffed into wily werewolf - apparently the new interface names are predictable and stable ..... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[16:30] <euanthe> I have Ubuntu Server 14.04 "trusty" installed on my ARM type machine, its a fresh extraction of the ISO, and I am trying to run "apt-get update" but it shows 404 error for "http://ports.ubuntu.com"
[16:30] <ssarah> newbeformnow, no idea then, probably some command line before installation to ask for the encryption key
[16:31] <alive876_> so substitute -- for -  ?
[16:31] <MonkeyDust> euanthe  #ubuntu-arm
[16:31] <davido> no, disregard
[16:31] <davido> it's a red herring
[16:31] <akik> davido: i can't believe how obnoxius you are :)
[16:31] <euanthe> MonkeyDust: Thanks.
[16:32] <Reptilia> pauljw:Package synaptic is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[16:32] <Reptilia> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[16:32] <Reptilia> is only available from another source
[16:32] <davido> akik, bad advice is worse.  There is no reason in his case to confuse the matter by adding a -- when the hyphen is not a the beginning of the path.
[16:32] <davido> and also not preceded by a space
[16:32] <lechevalier> bonjour à tous
[16:33] <MonkeyDust> !fr
[16:33] <pauljw> Reptilia, use ubuntu software to install synaptic
[16:33] <davido> Your advice just adds complexity to the issue. Give the poor guy a break.
[16:33] <deadmund> I just finished upgrading to 16.04 but I got some errors at the very end.  I think this might be a botched upgrade.  I've rebooted and many things are now a new version.  What can I do to check if this is botched?
[16:33] <alive876_> this is crazy
[16:33] <lechevalier> ok thank you
[16:33] <deadmund> Looking in software sources, I seem ot have both the utopic and xenial (16.04) canonincal sources?
[16:34] <alive876_> i'll just cut and paste
[16:34] <deadmund> For some bizzare reason, my splash screen is now edubuntu
[16:34] <Reptilia> pauljw:"No application found"
[16:34] <mcphail> deadmund: if you have gone from utopic to xenial, you will have a broken system. That is not a supported upgrade path
[16:34] <deadmund> mcphail: I was previously on 15.10
[16:34] <MonkeyDust> deadmund  i had that with xfce ... use synaptic to delete everything 'edubuntu'
[16:35] <DrunkenDwarf> is Xubuntu exactly ubuntu but replacing Unity with XFCE? or are there more differences?
[16:35] <deadmund> mcphail: Don't ask me why 14.04 repo source is in there.  Maybe from the original install?
[16:35] <mcphail> deadmund: so where did your utopic sources come from?
[16:35] <deadmund> mcphail: Don't ask me!
[16:36] <deadmund> mcphail: Should they not be in there??
[16:36] <deadmund> seems like they should not
[16:36] <Reptilia> DrunkenDwarf:One difference that i know is that you get smaller amount of pre-installed software
[16:36] <deadmund> Maybe I should just install from scratch.  I have a separate /home for just this occasion.
[16:37] <mcphail> deadmund: if you added PPAs or 3rd party repos, they can't be upgraded by the upgrader. It is up to you to unpick those manually, or reinstall
[16:37] <Reptilia> DrunkenDwarf:Different file manager
[16:38] <mcphail> DrunkenDwarf: there are various cosmetic tweaks (different splash screens etc). But you can happily install both, and pick your desktop environment at login
[16:38] <deadmund> mcphail: I don't see how that's relevant.  the canonical 14.04 repo is not 3rd party or a ppa.
[16:38] <mcphail> deadmund: utopic is not 14.04
[16:38] <Reptilia> How to i make the [Close], [Minimize], [Expand] buttons always appear in the corner, while a certain app is running?
[16:39] <DrunkenDwarf> mcphail, Reptilia thaanks. I usually install ubuntu and then xfce on top, but i only have 16G drive with this
[16:40] <linux-unix> hey
[16:40] <deadmund> mcphail: You're pedantic
[16:42] <mcphail> deadmund: enjoy sorting it out.
[16:42]  * Xark figured out his Intel WIFi adapter only works on laptop after cold boot (if I restart, it will be "disabled").  D'oh!
[16:43] <deadmund> mcphail: have a good one! :D
[16:44] <Reptilia> How come the most basic things that serve forward usage, are not functioning? Wi-Fi is not working, Ubuntu Software Center is not working...
[16:45] <Reptilia> How do you plan to attract the average user, if your basic stuff is malfunctioning / not functioning at all?
[16:45] <braycep> join #unbuntu-cn
[16:46] <MonkeyDust> Reptilia  better ask how to solve the issues you're facing
[16:46] <Reptilia> MonkeyDust:I did, all i get is ignore.
[16:47] <duckchat> just installed ubuntu 16.04.  I have several machines.  I would like to configure terminal on one machine and copy all of the settings and profiles to all of the other machines.  how?
[16:48] <Xark> Reptilia: I found WiFi works on my system (Intel Skylake i5), but only after a cold-boot. :-)
[16:48] <MonkeyDust> duckchat  ~/.bashrc contains the terminal settings
[16:48] <EriC^^> blabla
[16:49] <pauljw> Reptilia, have you searched the forums for solutions?  http://ubuntuforums.org/forum.php
[16:49] <EriC^^> echo $?
[16:49] <EriC^^> oops
[16:49] <Reptilia> Xark:I have succeeded making the Wi-Fi work on Xubuntu, but using the same "method" (it's not even a method, 2 clicks), won't help me on Ubuntu.
[16:49] <ChaosMageX> How do you downgrade xfsprogs in order to mount an older XFS drive (circa 2007-2009) without getting a "V1 inodes unsupported" error?
[16:49] <zykotick9> MonkeyDust: <just a nit-pick> but .bashrc has the shell setting (assuming bash usage)... terminal setting as elsewhere ;)
[16:50] <duckchat> MonkeyDust: what?  gnome-terminal setting and profiles.  colors, etc.
[16:50] <vooze> Hi people. I have a problem with 16.04. I cant connect to a wifi network on lightdm lockscreen before logging in. Do any of you have this issue? If so, could you say you are affect as well. I can't be the only one. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/1574020
[16:50] <ChaosMageX> I need to be able to mount an XFS drive with a real-time partition, but I am unable to do so because I keep getting the error "V1 inodes unsupported. Please try an older xfsprogs."
[16:51] <ChaosMageX> And of course I'm using the latest Ubuntu, 16.04 LTS, on a live CD at the moment.
[16:52] <Reptilia> pauljw:As i can see, many people are having Wi-Fi issues. I will wait some time until basic stuff is functioning, and then install 16.04 :)
[16:53] <pauljw> Reptilia, probably a good idea.  i'm only running it in a vm here
[16:53] <leo_> clear
[16:55] <boriseto> A question. What does it mean for dual graphics users with Intel and AMD when going on 16.04? Can the opensource driver handle switching graphic cards?
[16:57] <lucas-arg> so hexchat is like the old xchat?
[16:57] <Hobbyboy> yes
[16:57] <ivo_> yeah whats with this stuff
[16:57] <ivo_> why no more xchat ..
[16:57] <ivo_> :(
[16:58] <Hobbyboy> xchat hasn't been updated in like 8 years
[16:58] <dontknow> lucas-arg, it is continuation of xchat
[16:58] <Hobbyboy> anyway, is it known that there are wallpapers missing in the repo for some ubuntu versions?
[17:00] <dontknow> is ubuntu disables the discrete gpu on hybrid laptops by default?
[17:08] <peder> Why can't i select LVM from maunal partitioning?
[17:09] <num7> Hi, wenn die weboberfläche von cups -> Administration einen Drucker hinzufügen möchte werde ich nach einen Usernamen und Kennwort gefragt. - Mit dem root + root-Kennwort komm ich nicht weiter. -  Muss ich vorher noch etwas konfigurieren?
[17:10] <rud0lf> !de
[17:10] <num7> sorry wrong chat
[17:12] <Pozo> hi someone speak spanish for a ask a dude better?
[17:12] <BluesKaj> !es | Pozo
[17:12] <Pozo> thanks
[17:13] <Awmusic12635> I have a question regarding using dhcp on ubuntu 16.04 . Posted it here for better formatting: https://paste.ee/p/3TmNV
[17:16] <Jordan_U> Awmusic12635: Most vm software includes its own DHCP and NAT setting to make sure that guest can automatically connect to the host network. Have you confirmed that the two aren't conflicting?
[17:16] <nos09> mysql keeps restaring. even with update-rc disable msyql
[17:16] <lego> hi
[17:16] <Jordan_U> nos09: What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[17:16] <phako> Hi, any idea why fontconfig tries to open /usr/share/fonts/opentype/cantarell/Cantarell-Oblique.otf.dpkg-new for said font?
[17:17] <Awmusic12635> Jordan_U there should be no conflict
[17:17] <nos09> ubuntu 14.04
[17:17] <phako> looks I have some more dpkg-* fonts in the cache
[17:17] <Awmusic12635> Just another piece of information. It actually fully works on the installer disk when it uses the apt repos
[17:17] <Awmusic12635> via dhcp
[17:18] <Jordan_U> Awmusic12635: server or desktop installer?
[17:18] <Awmusic12635> Jordan_U server
[17:18] <nos09> Jordan_U: its workstation
[17:18] <nos09> i use for several things ..
[17:18] <nos09> but now mythbackend
[17:19] <Jordan_U> Awmusic12635: What have you done to ensure that there is no conflict?
[17:19] <nos09> dont know why mysql keeps starting .. I need to change the bind addres.
[17:19] <Awmusic12635> Jordan_U it is proxmox
[17:20] <Awmusic12635> Jordan_U proxmox does not include dhcp as far as I am aware
[17:21] <nos09> cant even kill mysql with - pkill mysql .. it respawns
[17:21] <Awmusic12635> Jordan_U I am also manually editing the dhcp conf file myself for these tests
[17:22] <Awmusic12635> on the server end that is
[17:23] <CyberDems> hey all, I'm seeing an issue with startx as a normal user since upgrade from wily to xenial - "(EE) parse_vt_settings: Cannot open /dev/tty0 (No such file or directory)". It does exist however -- if i chmod 777 /dev/tty0, then try startx again, I get: "(EE) xf86OpenConsole: Cannot open virtual console 2 (Permission denied)". Is the potential cause of this known ?? what can I look at. I already
[17:23] <CyberDems> have anybody allowed for logon in xauthority
[17:23] <Ben64> CyberDems: don't use startx
[17:23] <CyberDems> Ben64: ty for fast response.. O_o why not though ? that's the standard method isn't it? Also, I get the same problem with xinit
[17:24] <Ben64> no it's not the standard method
[17:24] <CyberDems> ok
[17:24] <Ben64> sudo service lightdm start
[17:24] <CyberDems> I use openbox though
[17:25] <Ben64> well start whatever dm you have
[17:25] <CyberDems> ok thx. any idea why this behaviour has occured though ?
[17:25] <CyberDems> i _could_ startx before as a normal user
[17:25] <Ben64> because startx isn't the right way to do it
[17:25] <madebymarkca> hello, I just upgraded from 14.04 to 16.04. After upgrading I am having an issues with accessing my install over the lan by hostname.local (avahi) I was curious if anyone knows if something chagned that would cause this, thx
[17:29] <dontknow> is ubuntu disabled the discrete card by default?
[17:32] <lucas-arg> how many people is using unity panel in the bottom??
[17:35] <madebymarkca> I hate the pannel at the bottom lol
[17:36] <madebymarkca> maybe in a vertical monitor configuration I would put it on the bottom
[17:36] <pelle_> hi, what is the easiest way to use a custom resolution with nvidia driver... basically i just want to oc my monitor from 60 to 80hz
[17:37] <Lorne> Hey- what's the easiest way to share a folder on local network between two ubuntu (14 and 16 LTS) systems?  (tried built in smb - and am getting "unable to access locaton")
[17:37] <Ben64> Lorne: sshfs probably
[17:37] <nicomachus> Lorne: I'd go with rsync
[17:38] <Lorne> "failed to mount windows share"...
[17:38] <lucas-arg> Lorne, i would use vfstd
[17:38] <Lorne> Ben64 : sorry buddy - I need plain english?  (assuming you mean permissions?)
[17:38] <lucas-arg> Lorne, then u cant browse it with just a webbrowser
[17:39] <Ben64> Lorne: "sshfs" is english, it combines ssh (secure shell) and fs (filesystem)
[17:39] <Bashing-om> Lorne: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2159449 <-easiest way to cp files 'tween two 'buntus that share the same router/house (Morbius1) .
[17:39] <lucas-arg> Lorne, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/vsftpd
[17:40] <Lorne> thanks guys
[17:40] <Ben64> that's a terrible solution lucas-arg
[17:40] <Myrtti> lucas-arg: I wouldn't recommend FTP to anyone.
[17:40] <Myrtti> it certainly isn't the easiest solution.
[17:40] <Ben64> ssh already exists, requires little to no setup, and is secure out of the box
[17:40] <madebymarkca> I uses sshfs and avahi normally
[17:40] <Term1nal> Any decent alternatives to the Startup Media Creator that ships with 16.04?
[17:40] <madebymarkca> but avahi being lame atm
[17:41] <Term1nal> Cause that thing is broken.
[17:41] <CyberDems> Ben64: xserver-xorg-legacy package seemed to resolve the issue
[17:42] <Ben64> CyberDems: ew
[17:42] <CyberDems> seems like a clumsy workaround though
[17:42] <Ben64> startx is clumsy
[17:42] <Lorne> ...I'd just like to be able to open the remote folder locally... (like I did in windoz)
[17:42] <Ben64> Lorne: yep, sshfs
[17:42] <CyberDems> any suggestions then, if I just want to start a bare openbox session as a normal user ?
[17:43] <Lorne> ...then drag/drop files to and from it... both systems on same network...
[17:43] <Ben64> CyberDems: use a display manager, like lightdm
[17:44] <CyberDems> hmm ok, that's like 350 megs, but i'll give it a shot then i guess. Anything lighter u know of ?
[17:45] <Ben64> lightdm (source: lightdm): Display Manager. In component main, is optional. Version 1.18.1-0ubuntu1 (xenial), package size 121 kB, installed size 684 kB
[17:45] <ioria> Lorne, there is also sftp (ssh) + nautilus (Connect to server)
[17:45] <Ben64> that says 684KB
[17:45] <Myrtti> CyberDems: xdm, wdm, sddm, nodm, lxdm
[17:45] <CyberDems> yah but some hectic dependencies add up to 350mb
[17:45] <Myrtti> pick one, do a bit of research on it, rejoice
[17:45] <CyberDems> thanks Myrtti
[17:46] <CyberDems> appreciate the help guys, lemme tinker and see what works best then
[18:05] <CodyS> What's up
[18:06] <peder> trying to install 16.04, but can't get it to put LVM anywhere when manually partitioning... any ideas?
[18:07] <bingo> hi, um.. 15.10 upgrade from 14.04 on i5 skylake toasted my installed ubuntu.  so, i downloaded and burned a dvd with windows, and the disk put 14.04 back onto the pc.. not 14.04.
[18:08] <bingo> er, not 16.04
[18:08] <CodyS> Yeah I usually just do a fresh install each time i upgrade
[18:08] <bingo> so, i re-checked and re-burned the iso from my download again
[18:09] <bingo> ok, so how to determine what is really on the new dvd
[18:09] <flakeparadigm> Why must Secure Boot be disabled in order to install [some] third party drivers? I can't seem to find any explanation behind this online.
[18:09] <bingo> it lable say 16.04
[18:10] <bingo> flakeparadigm - secure boot is like signed. right
[18:10] <bingo> 3rd pty stuff might not be/yet be signed
[18:11] <flakeparadigm> bingo: I haven't seen this requirement in previous versions, though.
[18:11] <bingo> uefi boot
[18:11] <bingo> or, legacy
[18:11] <flakeparadigm> UEFI
[18:11] <bingo> signed
[18:12] <bingo> some pc allow either and both
[18:12] <bingo> but tha 3 pty would need signed
[18:12] <flakeparadigm> Is there any online documentation you could recommend to read up on it?
[18:12] <flakeparadigm> Like I said, this hasn't been required previously
[18:12] <bingo> lots, cas uefi install of ubuntu is documented
[18:13] <bingo> it's not so much MS as it is the chip maker/ and bios ppl that do the uefi, to create an approved, and assured good environment
[18:14] <javaman> Hi, how can I install oracle java 8 in Ubuntu 16.04 ? I don't want to use PPAs
[18:15] <CodyS> sudo apt-get install oracle-java8-installer
[18:15] <CodyS> javaman try that
[18:15] <javaman> CodyS thank you! :)))
[18:15] <CodyS> :)
[18:15] <javaman> codys Package oracle-java8-installer is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source
[18:16] <flakeparadigm> javaman: It's not included in the default ubuntu repos.
[18:16] <bingo> so, no one know what to see inside the ISO to tell if it is 16.04 ?
[18:16] <flakeparadigm> You'll either need to build it from source from oracle's site, or use a PPA
[18:17] <javaman> flakeparadigm ok, thank you!
[18:18] <flakeparadigm> bingo: if you mount the ISO and look at the "md5sum.txt" file, you can search for "xenial"
[18:18] <bingo> I don't know if the disk put 14.04 back onto my pc, magically, or what.. but, it worked.  Now I can try 16.04 install
[18:18] <bingo> ohhh, ok md5
[18:19] <flakeparadigm> The files you'll see that say "xenial" in their path are the package lists.
[18:19] <flakeparadigm> also you could just look in the "dists" folder
[18:21] <bingo> >>> this is there in md5 on these disks >>  ./pool/main/s/shim-signed/shim-signed_1.6+0.4-0ubuntu4_amd64.deb
[18:21] <CodyS> Oh javaman, i forget to give you the ppa
[18:21] <CodyS> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:webupd8team/java
[18:21] <CodyS> sudo apt-get update
[18:21] <CodyS> Yeah
[18:22] <CodyS> Then the other command should work
[18:22] <Bushman> i unbinded the hid device and by using lsusb i read the report descriptor. it reports X and Y axis twice
[18:22] <Bushman> is there any way i can manipulate the thing so it reports 4 different axes and not 2, double?
[18:23] <flakeparadigm> bingo: open up the ISO and go to the "dists" directory.
[18:24] <bingo> >>>  ./dists/trusty/restricted/binary-amd64/
[18:24] <bingo> I downloaded from the ubuntu web site
[18:24] <flakeparadigm> bingo: so your iso is for Trusty. That's 14.04
[18:24] <bingo> NO
[18:25] <bingo> I got 16.04 from a download
[18:25] <bingo> I pasted the ISO onto the disk
[18:25] <bingo> it said 16.04
[18:26] <bingo> the disk lable is 16.04
[18:26] <bingo> but, it put 14.04 onto my pc
[18:26] <bingo> do i need to print a screen?
[18:27] <bingo> i am glad cas 15.10 upgrade nerfed my ubuntu, and it is back, now
[18:28] <huio> can i have a libre ubuntu installation?
[18:29] <Guest664> hi
[18:29] <zykotick9> huio: trisquel or debian perhaps?
[18:29] <Guest664> debian
[18:30] <linux-unix> hey
[18:31] <bingo> I have two screenshot showing a 16.04 download has 14.04 in it
[18:32] <EriC^^> bingo: ?
[18:33] <bingo> in the dvd, amd64/dists/stable/main/binary-amd64 has... trusty
[18:33] <bingo> I did a download from ubuntu, where it says to get 16.04
[18:33] <EriC^^> bingo: did you checksum the iso
[18:33] <EriC^^> !hashes
[18:34] <bingo> yes
[18:34] <EriC^^> it's correct then probably
[18:34] <bingo> ?
[18:34] <EriC^^> type cat /etc/issue
[18:34] <Yamii> Hola
[18:34] <CyberDems> Myrtti: nodm working perfectly, ty
[18:34] <bingo> stable trusty and unstable, are three folders
[18:35] <bingo> cat says 14.04
[18:36] <bingo> from terminal
[18:36] <EriC^^> bingo: type sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[18:38] <bingo> i have the disk in the drive - not installed
[18:38] <de-facto> you can also look via cat /etc/lsb-release
[18:39] <bingo> also, the fresh download has stopped
[18:39] <bingo> while we are chatting i downloaded another
[18:39] <bingo> it's hung now
[18:40] <de-facto> if you use torrents that would not matter at all, in fact you can resume with a torrent on a partial iso download
[18:41] <dantheman> Question, does Ubuntu fully support kikstart?
[18:41] <bingo> i dunno where the download is coming from, except to say that I am getting it from the orange icon saying to get ubuntu now on this url...
[18:42] <bingo> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/thank-you?country=US&version=16.04&architecture=amd64
[18:43] <de-facto> so its probably coming from http://releases.ubuntu.com/16.04/
[18:43] <EriC^^> are you sure it's booted right now?
[18:44] <bingo> 14.04 is booted and i am using xchat now
[18:44] <Enissay> Hi guys, I just installed ubuntu 16.04 allogside win8.1, but I see no grub, it logs directly into ubuntu (yes, windows still alive, if I activate fast boot in BIOS I log directly into it :x ).... I installed Boot repair, but I get this message:
[18:44] <Enissay> The current session is in Legacy mode. Please reboot the computer, and use this software in an EFI session. This will enable this feature. For example, use a live-USB of Boot-Repair-Disk-64bit (www.sourceforge.net/p/boot-repair-cd), after making sure your BIOS is set up to boot USB in EFI mode.
[18:44] <EriC^^> bingo: what does md5sum /path/to/iso return?
[18:45] <EriC^^> Enissay: is it an hp laptop?
 No, a desktop xD
[18:46] <bingo> from home terminal says no file
[18:46] <EriC^^> Enissay: can you boot a live usb?
[18:46] <Enissay> yes
[18:46] <EriC^^> ok, boot one and pastebin the output of sudo parted -l
[18:47] <bingo> i installed, took out the disk and rebooted. put the disk back in to look at it
[18:47] <EriC^^> bingo: do you also have a 14.04 installed on the pc?
[18:47] <iSlayWyverns> Has anyone managed to run Latest-Skype(for windows) via Wine?
[18:47] <bingo> no eric, i put the new in same place tho, formatted the part again
 Oh, I've generated this earlier with boot-info: http://pastebin.com/1rgwm9Zh
[18:49] <bingo> the 14.04 running was installed from this disk, and the disk is not live.  I just went to see if I missed a disk.
[18:49] <Enissay> i'll be back later with what you asked
[18:49] <brainwash> iSlayWyverns: https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=31461
[18:51] <bingo> Do you need to see screen shots?
[18:51] <bingo> or,can anyone read that iso from their server?
[18:52] <kriskropd> I'm using a bitnami provided ubuntu 14.04 vmdk on an ssd as a host os on an old Dell inspiron537s computer - it boot's to prompt just fine, however the keyboard is completely unresponsibe and the network interface is not grabbing an address form dhcp, evidently - can anyone help?
[18:53] <iSlayWyverns> brainwash, ah, I see
[18:53] <ioria> bingo, you can mount an iso simply with double-click, and check its content
[18:53] <de-facto> bingo where is your iso located on your filesystem?
[18:53] <modafinil> anybody else having slowed/pitched down audio issues with pulseaudio on 16.04? had it on upgrade, did a clean install and it was fine until i rebooted
[18:54] <bingo> on the dvd, and on the hard drive /downloads
[18:54] <iSlayWyverns> Video calls don't work... :/
[18:54] <brainwash> iSlayWyverns: sadly, no luck with skype via wine. I guess you would need to setup a virtual machine instead.
[18:54] <modafinil> some sort of sample rate issue, but messing with pulse config files has not been fruitful
[18:54] <iSlayWyverns> The only thing I'm missing is skype...
[18:54] <iSlayWyverns> And it won't work on Browsers (Video/Call)
[18:54] <bingo> de-facto : if i click the iso on my downloads directory, then what will it do?
[18:54] <iSlayWyverns> Or I'm doing something wrong. (either microsoft won't make it availablle)
[18:55] <de-facto> modafinil you can try to fiddle with pavucontrol and alsamixer from terminal
[18:56] <de-facto> bingo can you open a terminal and type "md5sum ~/Downloads/ubuntu-16.04-desktop-amd64.iso" and paste that result here?
[18:56] <kd_> Experiencing a bug on 16.04 LTS where machine won't wake up after a suspend. Anyone else run into this issue? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2321399
[18:57] <modafinil> de-factor: when i switch i.e. audacious to alsa output things are fine, haven't found anything relevant in pavucontrol
[18:57] <bingo> c94d54942a2954cf852884d656224186  /home/walter/Downloads/ubuntu-16.04-desktop-amd64.iso
[18:58] <de-facto> bingo ok great that means its just fune
[18:58] <de-facto> fine
[18:58] <bingo> but 14.04 is showing in system, not 16.04
[18:58] <modafinil> well, NOW when i switch to alsa output it's still way pitched down (that worked before the clean install)
[18:59] <SparkySergal> hey, whats the best audio dirvers for ubuntu, I have pulse as standard but some apps dont detect the microphone as a source
[18:59] <de-facto> bingo yes you just downloaded the iso cd image successfully, now you have to install it
[18:59] <bingo> de-facto --- I did that
[19:00] <de-facto> bingo hmm ok what exactly did you doß
[19:00] <bingo> de-facto, downloaded, burned dvd and installed 16.04.  whereby 14.04 was re-installed
[19:01] <Enissay> EriC^^: http://pastebin.com/2ayrk9LX
[19:01] <de-facto> bingo so you installed 16.04 to another partition alongside your old 14.04 then?
[19:01] <SparkySergal> skype works with the microphone, scree capture only finds the system sound and its very loud on the input
[19:01] <bingo> i came here to find out why a 16.04 would install 14.04
[19:02] <bingo> de-facto, no, i formatted the old part, while installing 16.04
[19:02] <OerHeks> bingo, it does not, likely you installed side-by-side, hold shift @ boot to choose the other (16.04) install
[19:02] <k1l> bingo: there must have been something wrong. a 16.04 iso doesnt install a 14.04
[19:02] <bingo> grub would say if I had a new boot
[19:03] <k1l> bingo: are you running a ubuntu now?
[19:03] <bingo> the 58 kernel?
[19:03] <bingo> yes running
[19:03] <bingo> chatting with
[19:04] <de-facto> bingo you can see the kernel version with "uname -a" from a terminal
[19:04] <Fixo> Someone know why they removed lsb 4.1 from Xenial ? Now I cannot instal my epson l355 printer! (is there any chance to install lsb packages from other release?)
[19:04] <frojnd> Hi there. I'm trying to use fastboot with samsung s5 mini but when a phone is in recovery mode and I try to get vendor id with lsusb nothing shows up... do I need to install some sort of drivers?
[19:04] <bingo>  3.19.0-58-generic #64~14.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Fri Mar 18 19:05:43
[19:04] <de-facto> so thats 14.04 i guess then
[19:05] <k1l> bingo: please run "sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999"
[19:05] <k1l> bingo: then shot the url
[19:05] <k1l> *show
[19:05] <trijntje> I've been running 16.04 for months now, but after yesterdays update unity is gone. How can I fix this?
[19:06] <nolsen> trijntje: Are you using proposed repos?
[19:06] <frojnd> please help I kind of need to communicate with a device
[19:06] <bingo> http://termbin.com/capi
[19:06] <trijntje> nolsen: no
[19:08] <frojnd> C'mon
[19:08] <Fixo> #ubuntu-br
[19:09] <nolsen> trijntje: You could try reinstalling unity
[19:09] <nolsen> sudo apt-get reinstall unity I think
[19:09] <nolsen> can't test right now, running apt-get.
[19:10] <trijntje> nolsen: that didn't work
[19:10] <bingo> nolsen --replace
[19:11] <bingo> to put back the unity tweaks.. compiz is to replace
[19:11] <nolsen> trijntje: sudo apt-get install --reinstall unity
[19:12] <trijntje> nolsen: I did that and then restarted unity, but no difference
[19:12] <nolsen> trijntje: Do you have ubuntu-desktop installed?
[19:12] <trijntje> nolsen: yes
[19:12] <modafinil> de-facto: i figured it out -- uninstalling mpd + rebooting fixes it. mpd must ask for a certain sample rate, and pulseaudio being a flaming heap of garbage applies that to the whole system, etc.
[19:12] <modafinil> another pulse success story ><
[19:12] <nolsen> compiz?
[19:12] <modafinil> thanks for suggestions :)
[19:13] <de-facto> modafinil yay congratz :)
[19:13] <bingo> nolsen - using compiz, you have desktop settings and you can go back to the original seetings, metacity, gnome, or compiz..
[19:13] <Apachez> when you boot on ubuntu livecd you get a software asking for which language you which to use and if you want to "try ubuntu", what is this software named?
[19:14] <bingo> pre-installer
[19:15] <nolsen> trijntje: I am not sure then, perhaps you should try to backup what you need and reinstall the OS
[19:15] <bingo> I do note, that.. the live cd does not say WHAT it is installing
[19:15] <OerHeks> ubiquity
[19:15] <trijntje> nolsen: nah, thats silly
[19:16] <bingo> why can't i have a partition outside the disk?
[19:16] <trijntje> bingo: due to physics ;)
[19:17] <bingo> why's a read only file system on my hard drive?
[19:17] <trijntje> unity broke after using 16.04 for months, what can I do to fix this?
[19:17] <bingo> broke?
[19:17] <bingo> unity tweak tool?
[19:17] <trijntje> I get no unity interface
[19:18] <bingo> compiz installed on mi 14.04
[19:19] <Apachez> OerHeks: is it possible to through kernel parameters preselect a language and go for "try ubuntu" without having ubiquity to halt and wait for user input?
[19:20] <OerHeks> Apachez, only with a preseed file https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/installation-guide/example-preseed.txt
[19:21] <child_> hi all!
[19:22] <child_> i installed 16.04 but not have xorg.conf for remapping my mouse Mad Catz RAT3, the games and steam is ok! thanks.
[19:22] <danawar> Hey ubuntu i have install 16.04 over a previous 15.10 and compiz seems to use very high CPU usage is there any way i can reset all compiz settings or replace it with something that doesn't slow the computer?
[19:23] <bingo> sudo fixparts /dev/sda   --  fixparts then wants to know if it should Erase GPT data which I desperately did, and apparently repaired the partitions.
[19:23] <bingo> Ubuntu was then able to find the windows partition
[19:23] <trijntje> danawar: probably better to install the correct driver for your graphics card
[19:23] <bingo> I have not done this
[19:23] <bingo> I only found this as an answer
[19:23] <danawar> trijntje: will check it out! thanks
[19:23] <bingo> but i am not about to corrupt/change gpt
[19:24] <trijntje> My unity desktop environment doesn't appear on 16.04, who can help me fix it?
[19:24] <inyourgroove> are there known issues with the phpmyadmin package on 16.04? after install apache serves up the raw php code...
[19:25] <ioria> trijntje, Guest Account ?
[19:25] <danawar> trijntje: i have installed a new one do i have to restart/relog or anything?
[19:25] <mcphail> inyourgroove: presumably you've enabled mod_php?
[19:26] <trijntje> danawar: yeah, reboot to load the drivers
[19:26] <trijntje> ioria: I'll give it a try
[19:26] <child_> i installed 16.04 but not have xorg.conf for remapping my mouse Mad Catz RAT3, the games and steam is ok! thanks.
[19:26] <inyourgroove> mcclurmc, tasksel at install chose LAMP. That should have enabled that right?
[19:27] <inyourgroove> mcclurmc, yes the php7.0 module is enabled
[19:28] <lolusux> hi
[19:28] <c704710> freeze during upgrade.cant boot or log in (no virtual console), flickering screen only
[19:29] <Apachez> OerHeks: thanks, which param is equal to choosing "Swedish" in ubiquity gui (when booted on livecd) and "try ubuntu" to get swedish menus in libreoffice etc ?
[19:29] <trijntje> ioria: guest account is also broken
[19:29] <ioria> trijntje,  ls -al ~/.Xauthority
[19:29] <bingo> redoing the partition table ??  (No, I did not re-do the part table)
[19:30] <trijntje> ioria: -rw------- 1 trijntje trijntje 49 Apr 23 21:28 .Xauthority
[19:30] <ioria> trijntje,  sudo lshw -c Video
[19:31] <trijntje> ioria: http://pastebin.com/TAXdbVNr
[19:32] <ioria> trijntje,  hot video card
[19:32] <zerothis1> back with new nick.failed upgrade
[19:33] <trijntje> ioria: thanks ;) Thats why I've been using 16.04 since january
[19:33] <child_> i installed 16.04 but not have xorg.conf for remapping my mouse Mad Catz RAT3, the games and steam is ok! thanks.
[19:33] <trijntje> child_: you can create an xorg.conf file, ubuntu doesnt have one by default
[19:34] <danawar> trijntje: Thanks for your help sorting compiz it is working much better now - i want to increase the ammount of virtual desktops is it best to use ccsm or unity tweak tool?
[19:34] <child_> trijntje, no problems with graphics?
[19:34] <ioria> trijntje,  did you try to install nvidia drivers ?
[19:34] <trijntje> ioria: yeah, with nvidia drivers the screen goes black during boot
[19:35] <trijntje> danawar: tweak tool is safer, ccsm can break your desktop interface if you're not carefull
[19:36] <ioria> trijntje,  for now try to install another DE, at lest you can use it ...
[19:36] <ioria> *leat
[19:36] <danawar> trijntje: Thanks i have had alot of issues in the past modifying gnome unity want to do it right for once!!
[19:36] <trijntje> ioria: like I said, I've been using 16.04 with the open source driver for ages
[19:36] <bingo> gpt fdisk?
[19:36] <trijntje> ioria: I can still start programs from the terminal, and move windows around with the alt-key, so its sort of usable
[19:37] <SergalSwagger> hello, I've lost my sound using ALSA, I got rid of pluse cos I didn't want to use it and it stopped working
[19:37] <ioria> trijntje,  oh... so what broken ... launcher , panel ?
[19:37] <frojnd> Hi there.
[19:37] <trijntje> ioria: top bar, window decorators, unity launcher, compiz keybindings, virtual desktops
[19:37] <frojnd> I'm trying to use fastboot with Ubuntu 15.10 but I can't seem to recognite device with lsusb... I've tried for s5 mini and s advance... what do I have to do to recognize a device in recovery mode from Ubuntu 15.10?
[19:38] <ioria> trijntje,  ok,... did you try to install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop ?
[19:38] <WizardGed> frojnd: you may need a udev rule
[19:38] <OerHeks> frojnd, disable fastboot, that is the culprit with usb device issues
[19:39] <SergalSwagger> anyone know how to get my sound back?
[19:39] <bingo> gdisk is a deb package for gpt disk format
[19:39] <WizardGed> also does 16.04 have a netinstall iso
[19:39] <trijntje> ioria: I dont think that works, ubuntu-desktop is just a metapackage
[19:39] <bingo> wiz - yes
[19:40] <fortean_dad> does anyone know how to get the 16.04 software centre to open apt://appname urls off web pages?
[19:40] <WizardGed> bingo: can you tell me where to look as it's not on the releases page
[19:41] <frojnd> OerHeks: what do u mean by disable fsatboot? I don't have fastboot running... it's in Android studio platform-tools directory?
[19:41] <frojnd> WizardGed: what kind of udev rule?
[19:41] <SergalSwagger> i've tried re-installing alsa but it hasn't healped
[19:42] <merpyyyy> How big keys does openssh support, want to type of key should i make to be safe ? Thanks a lot in advance!
[19:42] <trijntje> why was the -a option removed form dpkg-reconfigure ?
[19:42] <OerHeks> frojnd, oh, i read windows fastboot ( hybernate file)
[19:43] <frojnd> well.. what should I do?
[19:43] <frojnd> I need to communicate with android devices and I don't know how to when they are in recovery mode
[19:45] <dgshin> ?
[19:46] <WizardGed> frojnd: do me a favour and type mtp-connect and take the output and put it in a pastebin where you can link us
[19:47] <frojnd> WizardGed: what package has mtp-devices?
[19:47] <ndhoa> hi!
[19:47] <frojnd> WizardGed: what package has mtp-connect?
[19:48] <EriC^^> !find mtp-connect
[19:49] <frojnd> EriC^^: thanx
[19:49] <EriC^^> frojnd: ^
[19:49] <trijntje> how can I install the gnome3 desktop environment, without all gnome-default packages?
[19:49] <EriC^^> np
[19:49] <trijntje> !gnome3
[19:50] <OerHeks> trijntje, with something like --no-install-recommends\
[19:50] <WizardGed> frojnd: EriC^^is correct sorry for not responding so quickly
[19:51] <trijntje> I'll give gnome3 a go, brb
[19:52] <akik> anybody know how to change text color in mate menus? they're now gray on gray
[19:53] <MonkeyDust> !themes | akik
[19:53] <frojnd> WizardGed: it just says libmtp version: 1.1.9 and No devices.
[19:53] <Hobbyboy> What automatically mounts inserted cds/dvds in ubuntu?
[19:54] <MonkeyDust> akik  http://mate-desktop.com/themes/
[19:54] <akik> MonkeyDust: the theme is ok but just the text color in the menus is wrong
[19:54] <frojnd> WizardGed: any other ideas?
[19:55] <akik> MonkeyDust: but i'll try those themes, thanks
[19:56] <frojnd> WizardGed: Don't know if this is important or not.. I didn't enable Android debugging before that (My screen/lcd is totally broken and I'm just trying to factory reset device via fastboot)
[19:57]  * WizardGed dies a little
[20:00] <WizardGed> frojnd: you can do that by holding down power and volume - on reboot without it plugged in
[20:01] <OerHeks> frojnd, so the device is broken, good luck with that
[20:01] <frojnd> WizardGed: I tried multiple times but it's not working
[20:01] <frojnd> OerHeks: no it's not broken :)
[20:02] <frojnd> OerHeks: when it powers on I can call myself.. I can hear viber messages..
[20:02] <frojnd> OerHeks: I need to factory reset it somehow.. for your info I can't use fastboot with any other device like s advance or motorola
[20:02] <frojnd> so maybe the problem is not with phones
[20:04] <tgm4883> frojnd: "My screen/lcd is totally broken"
[20:06] <WizardGed> frojnd: your other option is to enable developer mode in android connect via adb and reboot to fastboot via console
[20:08] <frojnd> WizardGed: how can I do that if I didn't accept fingerprint?
[20:08] <frojnd> WizardGed: or enable Android device before?
[20:09] <WizardGed> frojnd: accept fingerprint?
[20:10] <frojnd> WizardGed: don't see anything on android phone (screen is broken)
[20:10] <idioticME> i just made one of those big dumb linux mistakes... i ran this command "chmod 770 /"
[20:10] <kriskropd> I'm using a bitnami provided ubuntu 14.04 vmdk on an ssd as a host os on an old Dell inspiron537s computer - it boot's to prompt just fine, however the keyboard is completely unresponsibe and the network interface is not grabbing an address form dhcp, evidently - can anyone help? I can live boot to usb and change things, I just don't know what to change
[20:10] <EriC^^> idioticME: you mean chmod -R 770 / ?
[20:10] <idioticME> or perhaps "chmod -R 770 /", i can't tell..
[20:10] <idioticME> yeah
[20:11] <idioticME> i feel so sad right now
[20:11] <EriC^^> which ubuntu?
[20:11] <zed> hello
[20:11] <idioticME> ubuntu-mate
[20:11] <EriC^^> 14.04?
[20:11] <idioticME> lates yes
[20:11] <kriskropd> idioticME: without the -R, it would be a simple fix, with -R - einstall time
[20:11] <kriskropd> reinstall*
[20:11] <frojnd> well what the hell... this shouldn't be so hard to get image from a phone that has broken screen?
[20:12] <EriC^^> idioticME: type stat -c %a /etc/passwd
[20:12] <kriskropd> idioticME: I think everyone's done it at least once before
[20:13] <WizardGed> if all you want to do is get an image get a microusb to usb and a mouse
[20:13] <baer-devl> frojnd: if u cant connect through fastboot or adb(as root) it will be pretty hard
[20:13] <idioticME> kriskropd thanks
[20:13] <idioticME> when the computer is totally frozen, i can upload an image if you suggest
[20:13] <idioticME> or should i operate from another system on the harddrive?
[20:14] <WizardGed> if the fingerprint scanner is broken too though you're hosed
[20:14] <EriC^^> is it still running?
[20:14] <idioticME> yes
[20:14] <idioticME> i have a livecd
[20:14] <EriC^^> try that command
[20:14] <idioticME> its froze
[20:14] <drunkendwarf> Hi all. Im uding Ubuntu on an armhf system (chromebook) .. if some software I want to use is compiled to .deb for an amd64 system, im guessing there's not much I can do about it? (its closed source, so I can't compile myself)
[20:14] <EriC^^> idioticME: ok try booting a live session
[20:15] <WizardGed> idioticME: try ctrl-alt f3
[20:15] <idioticME> alright, brb im kinda in chock
[20:15] <MonkeyDust> !arm | drunkendwarf
[20:16] <idioticME> WizardGed: i had tried that, it froze.
[20:16] <idioticME> give the livecd 2 sec
[20:16] <luiz> tarde pessoal
[20:16] <WizardGed> idioticME: oh well worth a try :)
[20:17] <idioticME> 4sure
[20:17] <Apachez> where can I find out what ubiquity does when you select a different language such as swedish?
[20:18] <riverloop> Hello!
[20:18] <riverloop> Menu-s for some applications are missing in 16.04. What may be the problem?
[20:18] <Apachez> I guess my question is close to the one in however this one didnt get any answer either https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-installer/2010-March/000622.html
[20:19] <riverloop> I'm using Hexchat now. It used to have menu-s in 14.04, but there's no menu in 16.04
[20:19] <riverloop> Sublime Text 3 is another example.
[20:20] <matthewkim> Chromium browser doesn't open in ubuntu 16.04 because of abort (core dumped), please help me.
[20:20] <xxx> do you really want chromium?
[20:21] <xxx> uninstall and install chrome
[20:21] <xxx> go to google and find chrome as .deb
[20:21] <xxx> is easy to install
[20:21] <riverloop> matthewkim: I use the development version (ppa) and it works fine.
[20:22] <matthewkim> xxx, riverloop: thanks very much
[20:22] <drunkendwarf> xxx I wanted to do that, could only find the i386 or amd64 packages though
[20:22] <\9> xxx: and then you'll need to update it manually
[20:22] <KnightRider> you guys don't have problems with installing .deb on 16.04?
[20:22] <KnightRider> i had to use gdebi to install chrome
[20:22] <riverloop> \9: No google adds it repository on first installation.
[20:22] <\9> oh
[20:23] <\9> well then
[20:23] <riverloop> matthewkim: Try adding this ppa "ppa:saiarcot895/chromium-dev"
[20:23] <matthewkim> riverloop: thanks again. !!
[20:24] <riverloop> I have been using it for quite some months (even when I was using 14.04) and it worked remarkably well for me, without any crashes/errors.
[20:25] <ltelmo> i had to use gdebi too , software center would not work
[20:25] <mcphail> drunkendwarf: if it is chrome you are looking for, I'm afraid Google don't provide a version for ARM linux. There is no way around that, beyond using qemu which is far too slow to be useful
[20:25] <xxx> mine ubuntu 16.04 installed fine, did you updated and dist-upgraded before?
[20:25] <riverloop> Yeah, seems like the bugs in the new software center haven't been ironed out. Hopefully we will get updates in a few days.
[20:26] <Hoso001> I am having a weird issue. Every left click is registering as a double click? Any tips?
[20:26] <riverloop> Btw, does someone have missing menu-s?
[20:27] <riverloop> At least HexChat and Sublime Text don't have menu-s. They mysteriously disappeared in the new 16.04.
[20:27] <Hoso001> Its the weirdest thing, I think its connected to my graphics drivers
[20:27] <Hoso001> I am using the AMD closed source drivers.
[20:27] <idioticME> i am in the livecd and have open'd the root filesystem partition EriC^^ kriskropd
[20:27] <Hoso001> Btw I am on the latest ubuntu lts release
[20:28] <Hoso001> *LTS release
[20:28] <riverloop> Strange, LibreOffice doesn't have menu either!
[20:28] <EriC^^> idioticME: ok, type stat -c %a /path/to/root/etc/passwd
[20:30] <riverloop> Did a 'unity --replace' and menus are back. Sorry for the noise.
[20:30] <idioticME> 644
[20:30] <idioticME> EriC^^
[20:31] <Hoso001> I have tweaked the double click settings in the system settings thing.
[20:32] <Hoso001> Like its not a constant thing, is just about 1 out of every 4 clicks or so is a double click
[20:32] <MonkeyDust> Hoso001  that are two 'things', it's becoming vague
[20:33] <EriC^^> idioticME: great looks like it wasn't changed
[20:33] <Hoso001> "things" What exactly do you mean?
[20:33] <idioticME> EriC^^ does ubuntu fix this its own on boot?
[20:33] <idioticME> excatly
[20:33] <EriC^^> idioticME: let's try the first few dirs cause it works alphabetically
[20:33] <idioticME> let me try a reboot then?
[20:33] <EriC^^> hold on
[20:33] <idioticME> ok
[20:33] <idioticME> bin 755
[20:33] <idioticME> boot 755
[20:33] <Hoso001> oh! I moved the double click speed slider and i am on the tester on the system settings menu
[20:34] <idioticME> etc 755
[20:34] <EriC^^> idioticME: try stat -c %a /path/to/root/bin/ls
[20:34] <idioticME> 755
[20:34] <EriC^^> are you sure you're doing it in the actual install and not the live session?
[20:34] <EriC^^> should be /media/something/.../bin/ls
[20:34] <idioticME> live session / livecd
[20:34] <EriC^^> or /mnt/bin/ls if you mounted it under /mnt
[20:35] <idioticME> eys
[20:35] <EriC^^> you need to do that for the actual install
[20:35] <idioticME> it is
[20:35] <EriC^^> /media/.../bin/ls ?
[20:35] <idioticME> i am in the right path
[20:35] <idioticME> yes :)
[20:35] <EriC^^> ok awesome
[20:35] <idioticME> reboot?
[20:35] <EriC^^> hmm
[20:35] <EriC^^> i'd check the history
[20:36] <EriC^^> just to see what command actually ran, since you're already there
[20:36] <EriC^^> did you use sudo with the command?
[20:36] <idioticME> its encrypted, but let me do a reboot and be back
[20:36] <EriC^^> (ubuntu doesn't fix this by itself btw)
[20:37] <idioticME> ok?
[20:37] <EriC^^> ok, give it a shot
[20:37] <idioticME> let see
[20:39] <terminalrecluse> urgent issue that is so puzzling - so before a reboot I had my titan x working with nvidia0 nvidiactl and nvidia-uvm all working, passing the titan x to a docker container
[20:39] <terminalrecluse> but then on reboot
[20:39] <terminalrecluse> the nvidia-uvm is gone
[20:39] <terminalrecluse> starting the docker container with the same parameters doesn't work
[20:39] <terminalrecluse> i can't for the life of me how to fix it
[20:41] <idioticME> "usb 1-1.2: device descriptor read/64, error -110"
[20:42] <idioticME> it gets to the "[ OK ] Started vboxweb-service.service. " and then it stops
[20:43] <idioticME> alt+ctrl+f3 works tho
[20:44] <EriC^^> ok
[20:44] <EriC^^> how'd you run the command before?
[20:44] <bipul> Hello, I was trying to install pbuilder , and i am stuck at "I: Retrieving Packages "
[20:45] <idioticME> for a sec i shows some text and then gets back to "login: _"
[20:45] <idioticME> log in and out
[20:45] <bipul> I have follow this document https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PbuilderHowto and found that it has been written only for saucy.
[20:46] <EriC^^> idioticME: try logging into a different account
[20:46] <bipul> I am using trusty.
[20:46] <wyre> hi guys! how can I enable hibernation feature?
[20:46] <fabiano> ciao
[20:46] <idioticME> root is disabled, can use the password
[20:47] <idioticME> login incorrect
[20:47] <MonkeyDust> wyre  sudo -e /etc/polkit-1/localauthority/50-local.d/com.ubuntu.enable-hibernate.pkla
[20:47] <brainwash> wyre: https://help.ubuntu.com/14.04/ubuntu-help/power-hibernate.html
[20:47] <EriC^^> idioticME: boot the live session again
[20:48] <EriC^^> or try booting the kernel with init=/bin/bash
[20:48] <wyre> MonkeyDust, to ubuntu 16.04?
[20:48] <xiaohuo> cw=Z]PkMHU#O)POOfPOObQMG%
[20:49] <wyre> and then should works "pm-hibernate"?
[20:51] <xiaohuo> cw=Z]O7So??
[20:51] <|RIC|> hi
[20:51] <Hoso001_> So, I have fixed the mouse issue.
[20:52] <Hoso001_> Turns out it was just a bad mouse.
[20:52] <|RIC|> any one know about python pandas?
[20:52] <Hoso001_> I am crying a little, that mouse is over 10 years old. We went through a lot together.
[20:58] <xtr33> Hi guys, is there anyone online that knows how to get the Ps4 controller working over BT in Ubuntu 16.04?
[21:00] <grummy> uh could someone help with with installing ubuntu? it's not wanting to work atm :(
[21:00] <EriC^^> how so?
[21:00] <Jordan_U> grummy: Please give a detailed description of the problem you're having and if anyone thinks they can help they will.
[21:01] <grummy> I verified all the files and they are all ok but when I tell it to install it wont boot properly, it goes through the loading screen and then the screen just goes black with an occasional error window popping up in the corner and disappearing again
[21:02] <grummy> and sometimes the login screen flashes up but disappears again straight after
[21:02] <Jordan_U> grummy: What version of Ubuntu?
[21:03] <grummy> 16.04 desktop x64
[21:04] <grummy> tried making the usb with both rufus and unetbootin too but same problem
[21:04] <idioticME> [16:48] <EriC^^> or try booting the kernel with init=/bin/bash <- i don't really know how to do that, i assume that it has to be done from livecd, which i am in again now
[21:04] <ultraghost3000> hi all
[21:05] <ultraghost3000> i'm the best ubuntu user
[21:05] <ultraghost3000> because im use MATE desktop
[21:05] <ultraghost3000> unity suck
[21:05] <idioticME> ultraghost3000, there a no such thing
[21:05] <Jordan_U> ultraghost3000: This channel is for productive Ubuntu support discussion only. Please stop the offtopic postings.
[21:06] <EriC^^> idioticME: mount the root partition
[21:07] <ultraghost3000> im killed nvidia tearing with compton
[21:07] <idioticME> EriC^^: done
[21:07] <ultraghost3000> im so cute
[21:07] <Jordan_U> ultraghost3000: This is your last warning before I remove you from the channel.
[21:07] <idioticME> ultraghost3000 please leave
[21:08] <idioticME> we are trying to solve problems, not start them ..
[21:09] <ultraghost3000> ok
[21:09] <brym> evening all. ima longshot this one here, since the people in #android only seem to want to argue with each other instead of help;
[21:09] <minas114> Hi. My Wifi has stopped working since 16.04 (it's broadcom). I have seen other people having the same problem. Is there a solution to this?
[21:10] <EriC^^> idioticME: ok, how'd you run the command you ran before?
[21:10] <brym> my xperia z5 has a cracked screen, i have an otg cable, but can't access the settings menu to enable detection of usb devices.
[21:10] <Jordan_U> minas114: Which driver are you using? Please pastebin the output of "lspci -vnn -d 14e4:" .
[21:10] <brym> any solutions? i know it's a stretch asking here.
[21:10] <minas114> Jordan_U, Broadcom Corporation BCM43142 802.11b/g/n [14e4:4365] (rev 01)
[21:11] <idioticME> the home/user is encrypted
[21:11] <idioticME> how do i unlock it?
[21:11] <Jordan_U> minas114: OK, that looks to be only supported with the proprietary WL driver. Do you have that installed via the "Additional Drivers" tool?
[21:12] <minas114> Jordan_U, Yes
[21:13] <minas114> Jordan_U, By the way, I was using the beta version of 16.04 and it working fine until about 5 days ago (some days before the official release).
[21:13] <minas114> SOme update broke it I belive...
[21:13] <Cedara> off to bed, night
[21:15] <EriC^> idioticME: got dc
[21:16] <EriC^> did you use sudo with the command you ran?
[21:16] <idioticME> yes
[21:17] <talpio> hi, guys!
[21:17] <EriC^> idioticME: ok, try less /mnt/var/log/auth.log
[21:17] <EriC^> it should be somewhere at the bottom
[21:18] <idioticME> can i grep it?
[21:19] <talpio> What do you prefer, fresh install or upgrade?
[21:19] <EriC^> press "G" it should scroll down
[21:19] <idioticME> yes
[21:19] <Somethjhgdkjfg> Heeehhhhhhh... where to start...
[21:20] <Somethjhgdkjfg> So... I got a hard drive wrack...
[21:20] <Cloudblow> Anyone tund solution for nVidia drivers bug on ubuntu 16.04?
[21:20] <Cloudblow> Find*
[21:20] <idioticME> EriC^ do you mind taking this in pm?
[21:20] <EriC^> idioticME: you could do grep -i "sudo.*command" /var/log/auth.log
[21:20] <tennis> hey! anyone have luck running X in 16.04 server on virtualbox? I'm trying my best to debug it, here's what i have so far: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16015323/
[21:20] <mynameisliviu> anyone with mouse problems on 16.04?
[21:20] <EriC^> idioticME: ok
[21:20] <Somethjhgdkjfg> I decided to set it up so that I can use all 3 of my hard drives... instead of just two. I must have done something wrong... because when I booted into my server... it booted into emergency mode...
[21:21] <mynameisliviu> anyone with mouse problems on 16.04?
[21:21] <Somethjhgdkjfg> so I have to try and save my stuff...
[21:21] <mynameisliviu> anyone with mouse problems on 16.04?
[21:21] <Somethjhgdkjfg> but I once again, fell victim to the "encrypt" thing...
[21:21] <Somethjhgdkjfg> so I followed the instructions...
[21:21] <mynameisliviu> anyone with mouse problems on 16.04?
[21:21] <Somethjhgdkjfg> root@file-ssh-server:/home/aarrgg# ecryptfs-mount-private
[21:21] <Somethjhgdkjfg> ERROR: Encrypted private directory is not setup properly
[21:21] <Somethjhgdkjfg> Is there a reason I'm getting this error?
[21:22] <Somethjhgdkjfg> Something I can do to fix it?
[21:22] <talpio> What do you prefer, fresh install or upgrade?
[21:22] <Somethjhgdkjfg> And ffs, what am I supposed to do in this "emergency mode"?
[21:22] <Somethjhgdkjfg> It's never clear...
[21:23] <c0nfuseki> I am needing assistance with udev. I would like to know if listing a parent device's details (which is showing to be different for every port of a usb hub when i use "" udevadm info -a -n /dev/sdb "") is enough to make it a valid udev rule to identify a particular USB hub/port value...? can I run my udev rule without resetting my computer? (when the port numbers can possibly all be redefined on reboot)
[21:23] <akhil> Guys. Having trouble with suspend on 16.04
[21:23] <akhil> anyone else facing the saem trouble?
[21:24] <k1l_> better ask specific questions. to find another user with the exact same error on the exact same hardware/software might take a while
[21:24] <Cloudblow>  nomodeset if is it used before or after quiet or splash or acpi= it change the effect?
[21:24] <Dagda> I'm having a KB issue with 16.04. I install, enable LUKS cryptsetup, set PW, and then after being prompted to reboot, my kb isn't loading correctly. Basically, key modifiers are unavailable, so "shift" isn't available. This is obviously a concern since I don't want to use a key without any caps or special chars. Has anyone else encountered this issue?
[21:24] <Somethjhgdkjfg> How do I fix this:
[21:24] <Somethjhgdkjfg> root@file-ssh-server:/home/aarrgg# ecryptfs-mount-private
[21:24] <Somethjhgdkjfg> ERROR: Encrypted private directory is not setup properly
[21:24] <Somethjhgdkjfg> so I can save my stuff and reinstall the server?
[21:24] <pelle_> hi! does anyone know where i can find a good guide on how to overclock my monitor?
[21:25] <gnuyen> I chose to have an encrypted home directory and it chose a strong passphrase for me, how can I change this without breaking everything?
[21:25] <k1l_> Cloudblow: put that anwhere where quiet and splash are written. if before or after that should not matter
[21:25] <xtr33> Hi guys, is there anyone online that knows how to get the Ps4 controller working over BT in Ubuntu 16.04?
[21:26] <pauljw> Somethjhgdkjfg, are you certain you're putting in the correct passphrase?  i get that error if i goof it up.
[21:26] <Somethjhgdkjfg> I don't even know how to enter my passphrase,.
[21:26] <Somethjhgdkjfg> I am told cryptsetup -y in the terminal... but then I get this....
[21:26] <reisio> xtr33: http://askubuntu.com/questions/546811/how-do-i-use-the-dualshock-4-with-ubuntu-14-10
[21:27] <Somethjhgdkjfg> cryptsetup: Argument <action> missing
[21:27] <Somethjhgdkjfg> pauljw ^^^^^^^
[21:27] <pauljw> don't know Somethjhgdkjfg
[21:27] <Cloudblow> k1l_: thanks, because i had read who use nomodeset first quiet after ro in cmdline and he had fixed nvidia black screen
[21:28] <Somethjhgdkjfg> I hate encryption... I guess I'm done with that feature.
[21:28] <Somethjhgdkjfg> idc if it leaves me less secure.
[21:29] <lee_G750jm> is this  dealing with the wireless or the GPU CPU: 1 PID: 2869 at /build/linux-lts-wily-H6pWeh/linux-lts-wily-4.2.0/net/wireless/sme.c:981
[21:32] <daniele_> Hi guys
[21:32] <daniele_> I want to contribute ubuntu
[21:32] <daniele_> where can I start?
[21:32] <reisio> do it
[21:32] <reisio> daniele_: https://community.ubuntu.com/contribute/
[21:32] <reisio> daniele_: or just go to launchpad and fix bugs
[21:32] <bohm4> when trying to launch ubuntu 16.04 in virtualbox, it is halting with an "intel_rapl: no valid rapl domains found in package"
[21:32] <pauljw> SkepticalParrot, there must be a solution, i just don't know it.  someone may come up with an answer.  i thought about the password/phrase because that's the error i get in linux mint where i have encrypted the drive.  thought it might be the same.  sorry.
[21:33] <bohm4> (error message)
[21:34] <bohm4> iirc, this happens with 14.04 vm, too
[21:34] <c0nfuseki> I am needing assistance with udev. I would like to know if listing a parent device's details (which is showing to be different for every port of a usb hub when i use "" udevadm info -a -n /dev/sdb "") is enough to make it a valid udev rule to identify a particular USB hub/port value...? can I run my udev rule without resetting my computer? (when the port numbers can possibly all be redefined on reboot)
[21:35] <bohm4> but it does not happen with linux mint, which is based on 14.04. why?
[21:35] <daniele_> reisio: is there any dev related channel?
[21:35] <bohm4> yes, daniele_
[21:35] <bohm4> it is ubuntu_devel
[21:35] <daniele_> bohm4: thanks
[21:36] <brainwash> #ubuntu-devel
[21:36] <reisio> daniele_: /msg alis list *ubunt*dev*
[21:36] <bohm4> sorry for the typo
[21:37] <MonkeyDust> daniele_  #ubuntu-app-devel is one
[21:38] <poli> So is there some alternative to the old coda filesystem for roadwarriors to keep files synced with a base computer these days? Maybe Ceph will have something similar?
[21:42] <tony1> I have a problem if I reboot an ubuntu VM I get the error, kernel panic-not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown block(0,0)
[21:42] <tony1> if I shutdown the VM and restart it it will boot fine. the error only happens if I reboot the VM using ssh. any ideas?
[21:43] <geirha> how are you rebooting in each case?
[21:45] <tony1> if I reboot with ssh I get the error "reboot command. if I shutdown and restart with the VB gui it will restart fine
[21:45] <reisio> oh, that 'B' typo really threw me for a moment
[21:45] <reisio> tony1: what VM system?
[21:45] <reisio> say Hyper-V, I dare you
[21:46] <tony1> sorry virtualbox
[21:46] <geirha> exact command and exact error would help
[21:46] <reisio> ^
[21:47] <bohm4> say what again
[21:49] <c0nfuseki> I am needing assistance with udev. I would like to know if listing a parent device's details (which is showing to be different for every port of a usb hub when i use "" udevadm info -a -n /dev/sdb "") is enough to make it a valid udev rule to identify a particular USB hub/port value...? can I run my udev rule without resetting my computer? (when the port numbers can possibly all be redefined on reboot)
[21:49] <chilipalmer> I have a fesh install of Ubuntu 16.04LTS. Everything seems to be working perfectly. I do see one small problem. When I open the new software store, I get the search panel, with three buttons above it: All, Installed, and Updates. The rest of the window is blank. Other than that, the application seems to work properly. Did I miss something or have I run into a bug of some sort?
[21:50] <tony1> the exact error is kernel panic-not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown block(0,0) if I use reboot or shutdown -r now from ssh
[21:52] <tony1> but if I shut down and restart the virtualbox vm from the gui or VBoxManage it will start fine
[21:52] <ricardo> I have this message on my syslog "[drm:intel_pipe_update_end [i915_bpo]] *ERROR* Atomic update failure on pipe A (start=73630 end=73631) time 648 us, min 763, max 767, scanline start 738, end 769", how can i solve this issue?
[21:54] <xtr33> reisio:  thanks I tried installing ds4drv but in terminal I get:  The directory '/home/xtr33/.cache/pip/http' or its parent is owner by the current user and the cache is disabled... then says something about an -H flag
[21:56] <reisio> xtr33: with bluetooth, I'm not sure you need any particular driver
[21:57] <xtr33> reisio, I have connected the controller, the headset of the controller wont connect which I'm not worried about but the controller just plain wont work
[21:57] <xtr33> works fine with cable tho
[21:59] <reisio> xtr33: which version of Ubuntu?
[21:59] <xtr33> 16.04
[21:59] <xtr33> gnome
[22:00] <reisio> xtr33: what's your uname -a output?
[22:00] <Vonologic> Can someone help me disable screenlock/screensaver in 16.04
[22:00] <reisio> Vonologic: system prefs should have that option
[22:01] <xtr33> reisio:  username is xtr33, -a output?
[22:01] <Multbrelch> Menu in top panel is missing in 16.04 (64Bit). I can get it back by executing 'unity' in the terminal. How can I make it permanent upon boot?
[22:02] <Pici> xtr33: the command is literally 'uname -a'
[22:03] <xtr33> thanks pici  it is Linux xtr33-Macbook 4.4.0-21-generic #37-Ubuntu SMP Mon Apr 18 18:33:37 UTC 2016 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[22:04] <reisio> xtr33: okay, update to linux-4.5
[22:04] <reisio> should fix it
[22:04] <xtr33> sounds good
[22:05] <xtr33> quick instruction on how to do that please?
[22:05] <xtr33> all g, think I found it online
[22:06] <talgat> Hi guys
[22:06] <reisio> xtr33: looks like there are ppas: http://linuxdaddy.com/blog/install-kernel-4-5-on-ubuntu/
[22:06] <reisio> that'd be simplest
[22:06] <reisio> talgat: hi
[22:06] <Guest96810> Have you ever seen ubuntu on win 10? :) https://www.livecoding.tv/longlivechief/videos/YvNMG-ubuntu-on-windows-10-and-nodejs-stuff-117
[22:06] <xtr33> thanks reisio
[22:06] <talgat> I am new to ubuntu, I installed it on my laptop today
[22:07] <reisio> talgat: cool
[22:07] <nickismynick> hi, i would modify files, but i'm always in read-only mode even if i chmod 755 the directory, what should i do ?
[22:07] <reisio> Guest96810: #ubuntu-on-windows
[22:07] <talgat> here ubuntu software works so slowly, it doesn't installs google chrome. why?
[22:07] <reisio> talgat: you asked it to install chrome?
[22:07] <talgat> yeap
[22:07] <reisio> nickismynick: what's the error you get?
[22:08] <owen1_> how do people managing thier .dotfiles? i use some symlinks i wrote myself but i am not an expert and they don't work perfectly
[22:08] <reisio> talgat: and what'd it do?
[22:08] <user197> talgat use chromium
[22:08] <talgat> ubuntu software works so slow
[22:08] <Guest96810> wat :D
[22:09] <reisio> Guest96810: hilarious
[22:10] <nickismynick> i dont get any error, i tried to modidy with geddit but i cant save
[22:11] <reisio> nickismynick: you should use... gksu I think is today's preferred way, or pkexec
[22:11] <reisio> or better yet use a terminal, and a terminal level text editor
[22:11] <Sorikin> vmware workstation 12, ubuntu 16.04, I have installed open-vm-tools and I have the VM setup to use enhanced keyboard, however open-vm-tools throws the error: "intel_rapl: no valid rapl domains found in package 0" and I still cannot use backspace or shift. Has anyone seen this and resolved?
[22:12] <nickismynick> i know gksudo, i would know an other way to do
[22:12] <c0nfuseki> I am needing assistance with udev. I would like to know if listing a parent device's details (which is showing to be different for every port of a usb hub when i use "" udevadm info -a -n /dev/sdb "") is enough to make it a valid udev rule to identify a particular USB hub/port value...? can I run my udev rule without resetting my computer? (when the port numbers can possibly all be redefined on reboot)
[22:12] <user197> reisio: I am unable to play any video file in my system,only SMplays shows " Mplayer finished unexpectedly. Exit Code 1.  tell me what info you need to solve this issue
[22:13] <cesasr> hola
[22:14] <reisio> cesasr: shalom
[22:18] <idiocitcME> hi can i recover ubuntu encrypted home dir without passphrase but with the password that i use to login? no right?
[22:19] <idiocitcME> EriC^^ hi
[22:19] <reisio> idiocitcME: weren't they one in the same?
[22:19] <idiocitcME> one in the same?
[22:21] <AB49K> I installed 16.04 yesterday and installed cinnamon  for my DE. When I put my computer to sleep, I get 2 password prompts to unlock my machine - and the cinnamon toolbar is gone, I can alt+F2 and type r to try and restart, but I *think* it immediately crashes again. Anyone had this before or got an insight?
[22:22] <idiocitcME> is the encryption passphase the same as the password on the encrypted home dir?
[22:23] <AB49K> I'm not using encryption, from what I can see, there seems to be a unity unlock screen, and then a cinnamon unlock menu
[22:24] <idiocitcME> i have lost my files system an i want to make a backup of the home folder
[22:25] <reisio> idiocitcME: I believe it's usually configured to be one in the same, yes
[22:25] <reisio> https://www.google.com/search?q=ecryptfs+ubuntu+recovery
[22:25] <idiocitcME> so i can use my login password then? (i must be sure not to misunderstand this)
[22:26] <Multbrelch> Menu in top panel is missing in 16.04 (64Bit). I can get it back by executing 'unity' in the terminal. How can I make it permanent upon boot?
[22:26] <idiocitcME> thanks reisio :
[22:26] <idiocitcME> )
[22:27] <reisio> idiocitcME: I doubt anything will happen if you try the wrong password
[22:27] <pwertz> whats a good repository to add via terminal?
[22:28] <reisio> magic-unlimited-power
[22:28] <Bashing-om> !ppa | pwertz
[22:29] <pwertz> hey thanks Ubottu!
[22:29] <pwertz> can add those repositories via terminal commands?
[22:29] <reisio> yup
[22:30] <user197> I am unable to play video files in my system, mp3 works fine. I think its issue with mplayer... can anyone help ??
[22:31] <xtr33> reisio, thank you for the help the controller now works... however now when I quit the program fs uae the computer just black screens with a pointer
[22:32] <pwertz> what can I do after I add a repository?
[22:32] <pwertz> I am new to the Kubuntu/Linux world
[22:32] <Multbrelch> pwertz, you can install the soft which the ppa is offering
[22:33] <pwertz> multbrelch, what is the "soft"?
[22:33] <Multbrelch> soft = software
[22:34] <EriC^> idiocitcME: decrypt the home dir first then copy the decrypted files to backup
[22:34] <pwertz> ok. but i do not know what software is available to isntall
[22:34] <pwertz> I guess my problem is, I don't know I want to install
[22:34] <EriC^> pwertz: browse the software center
[22:34] <bohm4> Sorikin: I am getting the same error when attempting to boot into 16.04.
[22:35] <pwertz> how do you get to the software center in Kubuntu?
[22:35] <Multbrelch> pwertz, normally you search for a specific soft ... then you find something that is not in the Ubuntu repositories. So then, you search the specific soft in a ppa, which someone is offering ...
[22:35] <user197> pwertz http://www.binarytides.com/better-kubuntu-14-04/
[22:35] <bohm4> Sorikin: and I using virtualbox, so that suggests that it isn't vmware workstation or virtualbox that is the problem
[22:36] <subz3r0> hey
[22:36] <bohm4> hi subz3ro
[22:36] <subz3r0> anyone redirects his iptables logs to a seperate file?
[22:36] <subz3r0> it works with my debian boxes but not with ubuntu. i have no clue whats wrong here :(
[22:37] <subz3r0> iptables adds the prefix "IPTables-DROPPED: " to the logs
[22:37] <subz3r0> so i created a file under /etc/rsyslog.d/iptables.conf with the following content
[22:38] <subz3r0> :msg,contains,"IPTables-DROPPED: " /var/log/iptables.log
[22:38] <subz3r0> but it does log exactly nothing to that file
[22:38] <Sorikin> And here I was trying to test opennms. maybe centos?
[22:38] <pwertz> hey thanks user197 and multbrelch
[22:39] <pwertz> this is exactly why I came to a forum like this!
[22:39] <Sebastien> #ubuntu is not a forum
[22:39] <wyre> hi guys! ubuntu 16.04 does not detect my ati proprietary driver after update from 15.10
[22:39] <Sebastien> its a chatroom
[22:39] <wyre> anyone has an idea?
[22:39] <Multbrelch> pwertz, if you want to have always the newest 'Libreoffice', you use a ppa from somebody who is daily building Libreoffice from its actual developer status ...
[22:39] <Gallomimia> well, i got my desktop to boot, with 14.04 installed. after like 3 weeks. but now it freezes at the login screen. any tips?
[22:39] <subz3r0> ahhh
[22:39] <subz3r0> i got it
[22:40] <subz3r0> i created the file with root permissions. should be okay. but rsyslgo wanted to create its own file
[22:40] <subz3r0> well
[22:40] <subz3r0> :)
[22:40] <Multbrelch> pwertz, same works for, e.g., blender, gwyddion, etc ... . One always finds a ppa ... almost
[22:40] <reisio> xtr: might want to change your graphics driver, too, then; hard to say :)
[22:40] <pwertz> would I just do a sudo apt-get update/upgrade to stay up to date on that?
[22:40] <Bashing-om> wyre: See the releae notes .. there is no FGLRX driver in 16.04 .
[22:41] <pwertz> this binarytides/better-kubuntu site is sexy
[22:41] <xtr33> reisio:  thanks, I will first try to uninstall and reinstall fs-uae
[22:41] <Multbrelch> pwertz, yes, but you need to 'include' a ppa ...
[22:41] <Bashing-om> release*
[22:41] <reisio> oh fs-uae, thought that was just a series of typoes :p
[22:41] <pwertz> whats the command line again when installing a PPA?
[22:41] <wyre> Bashing-om, but yet?
[22:41] <wyre> Bashing-om, there will be anyday?
[22:42] <piero> Hi! A very important file was deleted in my encrypted home directory. After umounting ecryptfs I'm trying to recovery encrypted files in the ext4 home partition, but "forecast", the program im using, will never find individual files because the header of each file is encrypted there. Is there a way to just find individual files in ext4 fs, or better, can i find deleted files that meets 1.5Mb, for example?
[22:42] <Multbrelch> pwertz, look here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/4983/what-are-ppas-and-how-do-i-use-them
[22:42] <Bashing-om> wyre: No, ATI is devoteing all efforts to support open source .
[22:42] <pwertz> oh nice
[22:42] <Multbrelch> pwertz, you receive lots of info via google ...
[22:42] <pwertz> I appreciate it Multbrelch
[22:43] <Multbrelch> with respect to ubuntu
[22:43] <pwertz> yeah I've been using VirtualBox and watching videos on Youtube and searching Google
[22:43] <wyre> Bashing-om, so... xorg driver should be fine driver?
[22:43] <Multbrelch> no problem - when I started with Linux I was like you ... so I have to pay back now ... :-)
[22:43] <Multbrelch> pwertz, ^
[22:44] <Bashing-om> wyre: Yeah ,,, If still problems .. one can only hope they work it out in the future . There is no other option .
[22:44] <Multbrelch> pwertz, ppa is lawyas a mean to get/update soft, which is not handled by ubuntu directly ....
[22:44] <pwertz> multbrelch, well I hope I can do the same one day!
[22:45] <pwertz> yeah I am beginning to grasp the repository and PPA life
[22:45] <wyre> Bashing-om, perfect :P
[22:46] <Multbrelch> pwertz, be patient but try out lots of things ... you will see, in 5 years, you have no desire for MSWindows, Apple, Android, etc anymore
[22:46] <Bashing-om> wyre: :) carry on .
[22:46] <pwertz> yeah I am already loving Linux life
[22:46] <pwertz> and the open-source world
[22:46] <pwertz> does Kubuntu have a software center?
[22:46] <Multbrelch> pwertz, yes, it rocks!
[22:47] <Multbrelch> pwertz, Kubuntu? yes, sure ... it's a bit different but quite similar
[22:47] <Multbrelch> google
[22:47] <Multbrelch> :)
[22:48] <pwertz> I could only find articles related to Ubuntu's software center
[22:49] <Gallomimia> alright. i can ssh into my box that seems to have its boot screen frozen
[22:49] <Gallomimia> what should i do? restart the boot screen? i need to configure the DNS client (it has bind9 installed) before i can run any updates
[22:49] <Multbrelch> pwertz, my last info ... you get all from the Internet, in particular from here and other channels ... cheers
[22:50] <Gallomimia> ubuntu 14.04 server
[22:50] <Multbrelch> and bye
[22:50] <pwertz> thanks homie
[22:51] <bohm4> Sorikin: problem replicates with ubuntu 14.04, but not linux mint 17 (downstream from ubuntu 14.04), so this seems to be an ubuntu-specific issue that the mint team fixed somehow
[22:53] <Sorikin> very very odd
[22:53] <citizen_> where is a few places to get good articles on linux?
[22:54] <peder> if anyone can tell me how to get lvm+crypto working with manual partitioning (currently the 16.04 installer) i would be real happy
[22:54] <citizen_> it was a option for me peder
[22:54] <clorisu> anyone know why i cant cam on skype and in my web browser simultaneously?
[22:54] <peder> citizen_: with manual partitioning?
[22:54] <idiocitcME> how happy can i get! i just found an 4 day old backup of my system EriC^
[22:54] <idiocitcME> EriC^^
[22:55] <peder> i can create the crypto container, but not any lvm in it
[22:55] <EriC^> idiocitcME: nice
[22:55] <idiocitcME> yeah its awesome! thank you so much for the help m8
[22:55] <idiocitcME> cheers! :D
[22:56] <EriC^> no problem :D
[22:57] <fuimabird> How do I connect to wifi in ubuntu server if I can't use nmcli?
[22:57] <demetris> hi
[22:57] <EriC^> fuimabird: probably some wpa_supplicant magic
[22:57] <fuimabird> Specifics?
[22:57] <citizen_> anyone used the snaps yet?
[22:57] <EriC^> no idea
[22:57] <fuimabird> -_-
[22:57] <demetris> build fails with configure: error: Building GCC requires GMP 4.2+, MPFR 2.4.0+ and MPC 0.8.0+
[22:58] <demetris> gmp error went away with libgmp3-dev
[22:58] <demetris> still need MPFR 2.4.0+ and MPC 0.8.0+
[22:58] <demetris> any help?
[23:00] <liftedkilt_> I'm really struggling with networking on 16.04 desktop
[23:00] <liftedkilt_> new install on baremetal
[23:01] <liftedkilt_> ubuntu recognizes my nics, and lspci -nnk shows that it has selected and loaded kernel modules for them
[23:01] <liftedkilt_> manually configured an ip address and trying to ping anything on my network fails 95% of the time - it will randomly work for a couple pings in a row here and there
[23:02] <liftedkilt_> tcpdump shows me the traffic on the network, so I don't think it's a hardware problem
[23:03] <liftedkilt_> arp -n shows the mac for my default gateway after pinging it, so it seems I have some level of l2 connectivity
[23:03] <liftedkilt_> anyone got any ideas?
[23:03] <liftedkilt_> hardware was working as of this morning when it was running windows
[23:04] <liftedkilt_> I wiped and reinstalled a second time and that didn't fix it
[23:04] <Gallomimia> i'm running ubuntu 14.04. how do i cause the login screen to restart from command line?
[23:04] <FeelTheVibration> liftedkilt.  driver issue you think?
[23:04] <Gallomimia> my gui seems to be frozen. no keyboard or mouse response. no change on display, monitor went to sleep. i can ssh in
[23:05] <Lorne_> Update of Q asked earlier... I'm trying to share a folder on my internal network... Was able to get 1st Computer (14.04) to share one working perfectly...but 2nd C (16.04) I get errors when I try to connect to it.  Looks like all permissions are turned on.
[23:05] <FeelTheVibration> you can use the "reboot" command but i believe it would have to be sudo with your password
[23:05] <Jalapano> I've got a noob question. I'm running gui-less so to speak, pure cli, but it's not using my entire screen, as though the resolution is off. How can I fix this?
[23:05] <Gallomimia> yeah rebooting won't help. it freezes at the login screen every time
[23:06] <liftedkilt_> FeelTheVibration: my onboard nic is using the realtek r8169 module, so I grabbed dkms-r8168 offline and installed it
[23:06] <liftedkilt_> didn't seem to help
[23:06] <liftedkilt_> my pci nics are intel server nics, running the e1000 module - should be pretty standard
[23:06] <FeelTheVibration> ive had times where i had to reinstall the proprietary shit several times
[23:06] <FeelTheVibration> before it started working
[23:07] <liftedkilt_> is there a good way at grabbing everything I need driver wise offline and sneaker-netting it?
[23:07] <FeelTheVibration> its more difficult than it should be
[23:07] <Lorne_> Feel... was that for me?
[23:07] <liftedkilt_> so I've experienced
[23:08] <FeelTheVibration> negative lorne
[23:08] <SkepticalParrot> Ethernet and Wifi is up now...
[23:08] <Lorne_> gotchya
[23:08] <SkepticalParrot> so how do I connect to the internet?
[23:08] <SkepticalParrot> In ubuntu server?
[23:08] <wafflej0ck> Anyone know how I can adjust the grouped apps in the application menu in Gnome 3.18
[23:09] <SkepticalParrot> I've got a party in 1 hour, I'd really like to get this issue resolved before then... so help is appreciated.
[23:09] <liftedkilt_> SkepticalParrot: can you ping your default gateway>
[23:10] <FeelTheVibration> i've been troubleshooting 50 hours this week at work. I need to leave this channel
[23:11] <Gallomimia> lol.
[23:11] <Gallomimia> i wonder if it's the drivers causing problem. video card
[23:11] <Gallomimia> well, can anyone help me with my loginscreen freeze?
[23:12] <SkepticalParrot> liftedkilt_ network unreachable.
[23:13] <SkepticalParrot> Maybe the developers of Ubuntu should ***really*** consider asking if the user wants to install nmcli, since some people who install server maybe want a base installation...
[23:13] <SkepticalParrot> That way this makes the job a lOT easier.
[23:16] <citizen_> should i install all the new snaps?
[23:17] <dbz2k> when is a bug confirmed does that mean that the ubuntu team looked at the bug?
[23:17] <dbz2k> when a
[23:20] <jayjo> Hey - I have an apple mouse and I can't get the speed down on the mouse speed... its at lowest level but its still to fast. can I adjust this further somehow?
[23:20] <Gallomimia> i've heard you can. but i forget how
[23:20] <Gallomimia> its in a config file somewhere
[23:21] <jayjo> How would i even go about it?
[23:21] <jayjo> Oh I change a file?
[23:21] <jayjo> just for my user?
[23:26] <brokenWhyFi> howdy yall ubuntu16.04lts unity wifi icon in menubar keeps changing to up/down arrows
[23:28] <Rhorse> brokenWhyFi: just the icon is broke?
[23:28] <brokenWhyFi> also sudo service network-manager restart works but it eventually goes back again
[23:28] <newbsie> I'm on Ubuntu Server 14.04.04 LTS. is it a good idea to store the gunicorn socket file in /tmp? Apparently this /tmp is cleaned daily, but I assume it won't be if the file is in use?
[23:29] <brokenWhyFi> Rhorse: its not the wifi symbol it switches to arrows but yes just the symbol is messed up not my actual connection
[23:31] <Lorne_> Update of Q asked earlier... I'm trying to share a folder on my internal network... Was able to get 1st Computer (14.04) to share one working perfectly...but 2nd C (16.04) I get errors when I try to connect to it.  Looks like all permissions are turned on.
[23:31] <linuxgecko> i need to install a 32-bit version of java on my 64-bit 15.10 desktop. i have oracle-java8-installer, but i need it's 32-bit counterpart.  any help?
[23:31] <Rhorse> How is 16.04 otherwise? Everything else working, brokenWhyFi?
[23:31] <brokenWhyFi> Rhorse: i can still click it and interact. the symbol is just messed and i am unsure where to start looking for a solution. all articles online apply only to connection issues
[23:32] <liftedkilt_> brokenWhyFi: do you also have a wired connection by chance?
[23:32] <Lorne_> ...I've noticed that the Icon for the working share is a Folder on a Folder...but the one not working well only has he arrows on a folder...does that help?  (What does that difference mean?)
[23:33] <brokenWhyFi> Rhorse: no its an ultrabook , only wifi and bluetooth no virtualbox or vmware is installed
[23:33] <Yehai> bazhang is faggot
[23:34] <Yehai> w1lcl3f3g: bazhang is faggot
[23:34] <Yehai> bazhang is faggot
[23:34] <squinty> !ops  Yehai
[23:34] <Yehai> !ops squinty
[23:35] <squinty> !ops
[23:35] <boriseto> Hi, how can I check which GPU is used when using open source drivers with Intel and AMD?
[23:35] <Yehai> squinty: bazhang is faggot
[23:35] <Yehai> piece of shit
[23:36] <Yehai> bazhang:
[23:36] <citizen_> woah my first ubuntu troll out in the wild....this place is turning into a trailer park.
[23:36] <Yehai> faggotland
[23:36] <akik> newbsie: you could use /var/tmp instead
[23:36] <Yehai> now everyone follow me
[23:36] <Yehai> bazhang is faggot
[23:36] <newbsie> akik: what is the difference of doing so and why would I do that? I'm genuinely do not know. :)
[23:37] <josspyker> thanks
[23:37] <brokenWhyFi> liftedkilt_: nope thats the icon for it though _____ interface 802.11 Wifi (wlp2s0)
[23:38] <akik> newbsie: you've noticed that /tmp is cleaned regularly. i'll check if /var/tmp survives a restart
[23:38] <linuxgecko> what is the oracle-java8-installer version in 16.04?
[23:38] <newbsie> akik: some research indicates that /var/tmp is clean less, but it might not appear in the beginning
[23:39] <newbsie> akik: also, /var/tmp is intended for larger files, but will perform slower as it sometimes are on hard drive....
[23:40] <akik> newbsie: it survived the reboot. you can store any size files there
[23:40] <newbsie> akik: some more research indicate /tmp is actually cleaned on reboot, not daily as suggested elsewhere.
[23:41] <brokenWhyFi> how does unity menubar know icon to display for running program?
[23:41] <akik> newbsie: a hard drive is fast. what do you mean?
[23:41] <newbsie> akik: is there any reason to keep a gunicorn sock file on reboot? it seems ramdisk should be a lot faster and may be more important for perofrmance
[23:41] <linuxgecko> is it normal to get this (seemingly low) level of help here? or am i not askign the right questions?
[23:41] <newbsie> akik: /tmp apparently is often stored in ramdisk, whereas /var/tmp is often stored on hard drive...
[23:41] <akik> newbsie: i don't know what gunicorn is. but if it's just a sock file it's minimal usually
[23:42] <newbsie> akik: gunicorn is a python based wsgi server and I use the socket to communicate with nginx which is a proxy
[23:43] <brokenWhyFi> linuxgecko: have you checked the website to see if its available?
[23:43] <linuxgecko> brokenWhyFi:  16.04?
[23:44] <akik> newbsie: http://docs.gunicorn.org/en/stable/deploy.html tells you to put it into /run/gunicorn
[23:44] <brokenWhyFi> linuxgecko: thats my ubuntu version so hopefully someone can help
[23:45] <mekhami> what is the correct way to install nodejs and the node command line tool in ubuntu 15.10
[23:45] <mekhami> i've messed this up too many times and i want to get it right
[23:45] <BakaProxy> yall niggers need Jesus
[23:46] <alumno_> hola
[23:47] <brokenWhyFi> linuxgecko: i believe they offer 32 and 64 this link displays all https://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp
[23:47] <linuxgecko> brokenWhyFi: do you have oracle java?
[23:47] <newbsie> akik: in the same page, nginx is is listed as using /tmp/gunicorn.sock and there is no /run/gunicorn/ dir on my ubuntu system.
[23:48] <ForgottenPlayer> :P
[23:48] <juanca> hola
[23:48] <brokenWhyFi> linuxgecko: no i have open jdk8 installed by default not oracle
[23:48] <juanca> :v
[23:48] <ForgottenPlayer> Do you think is a good idea to use 16.04 for a gaming/web server right away?
[23:49] <juanca> hay humanos aca o todoss son bots
[23:50] <brokenWhyFi> ForgottenPlayer: only one way to find out haha
[23:50] <juanca> _
[23:50] <citizen_> !ops
[23:50] <Xark> ForgottenPlayer: What could possibly go wrong? :)
[23:51] <linuxgecko> brokenWhyFi:  i cna't find 8u77 in 32-bit..   only 8u91 or 8u92,   AFAIK, i need the one that matches my packaged one, which is 8u77
[23:51] <ForgottenPlayer> Programs not being compatible? :C
[23:51] <ForgottenPlayer> Just wondering if I should expect trouble with common programs.
[23:52] <newbsie> akik: anyhow, I appreciate your help! :D, I will head over to #gunicorn or #python and check with them over there.
[23:53] <brokenWhyFi> ForgottenPlayer: its a possibility its only been out for 2 days
[23:54] <ForgottenPlayer> So, should I use it for a production server?
[23:55] <squinty> !es | juanca
[23:55] <ForgottenPlayer> squinty, nice way to refer people to the spanish channel
[23:55] <brokenWhyFi> linuxgecko: oh i thought they were stand alone.. did you try it to see if it works anyway?
[23:57] <citizen_> any kubuntu users?
[23:57] <Bashing-om> ForgottenPlayer: The big boys who do servers in the real world wait for the .1 release .. all the hoopala to settle out .