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cfhowlettzak?  anyone?06:37
zequencecfhowlett: Hi08:55
cfhowletthey zeq.  do you have the default wallpaper without the US logo?  08:55
zequencecfhowlett: Yep. Let me get you a link08:56
zequenceZak hasn't been involved this time around08:56
cfhowlettah!  OK08:56
cfhowlettdoing a tribute wallpaper cuz ... https://drive.google.com/open?id=0Bwd8hWRpQJ8DWElxOHlVNmhQbDA08:56
zequencecfhowlett: Oh, right. Prince. One of the immortal ones :)08:58
cfhowlettindeed08:58
cfhowlettalthough the Purple wallpaper + Prince is quite natural08:59
zequencehttps://cloud.mousike.me/index.php/s/PKUfFXojOmzcJTW09:00
cfhowlettperfect! thanks09:00
zequencenp09:00
cfhowlettI'll send these 2 to the flickr accout09:01
zequencealright09:06
zequenceRenamed the package selection page for Y to yakkety, since that seems to be the new code name https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/PackageSelection/yakkety11:52
cfhowlettzak vs. gnu ???  they all look the same to me ...11:53
zequenceI can't tell them apart either11:54
zequenceYou mean, yak?11:55
cfhowlettyak.  sorry, but yeah.11:55
cfhowlettup next: zesty zebra?11:55
zequenceMakes me think of the movie "The Aviator", when Howard Hughes goes, "Is, thateee, is that a Yak?"11:56
zequencezebra is nice graphically11:56
sakrecoerthanx zequence !!14:28
sakrecoerwanted to ask you how to do that!14:28
sakrecoer:)14:29
sakrecoergoing to have to be away lots until monday, hope that i'm not undermining huge volumes of motivation for the yaketi yak party14:32
sakrecoeri realy look forward to get my hands dirty on it actualy.14:32
sakrecoercfhowlett: good to read you! :)14:33
cfhowletthey hey hey sakrecoer 14:34
cfhowlettI noticed that we picked up xubuntu wallpapers.  VERY nice!14:34
sakrecoer:) haha! i didn't notice that14:35
sakrecoerbut i noticed that the folder 'backgrounds' appears as a shortcut in save as dialogues.14:36
sakrecoeralso that, once you pick another folder for background images, going back to 'background' the selection box is empty..14:37
sakrecoerwill file a bug asaic14:37
sakrecoercfhowlett: you never join #ubuntustudio-offtopic . you don't have to of course.. just making sure you know it exists14:39
sakrecoer:)14:39
cfhowlettah!  will do14:39
OvenWerkssakrecoer: I don't seem to be able to edit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/PackageSelection/yakkety14:40
OvenWerkssakrecoer: you may prehaps wish to add dispcalgui to graphics14:41
OvenWerksIt replaces the GCM group of programs (GCM = gnome color monitor)14:42
OvenWerkssakrecoer: reason for replcement, GCM does not work with xfce, DisplyCAL does.14:43
autumnanewbie question, is there a procedure to proposing packages, or people allowed?14:43
sakrecoerOvenWerks: sounds like a good idea. i'm in a train, atm but are you loging into wiki with the etherpad team option?14:44
OvenWerkssakrecoer: how would I do that?14:44
sakrecoerOvenWerks: join the etherpad team on launchpad :)14:45
OvenWerksOh goody :P14:45
sakrecoeri don't have the url at hand, sorry..14:45
OvenWerksIt doesn't have to be right now, I just don't want to forget ...14:46
autumnasakrecoer: this one right? https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-etherpad14:46
sakrecoerautumna: i'm still a bit unsure, can you put your ideas in some textfile until monday?14:46
OvenWerkssakrecoer: of course.14:47
autumnaof course 14:47
sakrecoer\o/ 14:47
sakrecoersorry for the inconvenience... 14:47
autumnaguys I am not in the post release exhaustion state like rest of you, that doesn't mean I don't sympathize with the rest of you ;D14:48
OvenWerksI have to get a proper text editor for 16.04...14:48
sakrecoerthat is kind of you autumna :) OvenWerks, don't like mousepad?14:49
OvenWerkshttp://www.ovenwerks.net/paste/UStudio-Y-Ideas.txt sakrecoer 14:49
OvenWerksmousepad is fine... for some things like ^^^, but not for others.14:50
autumnaOvenWerks: you are looking for something development focused?14:51
OvenWerks19306 members? (in etherpad)14:52
OvenWerksautumna: I have already installed Geany, but also like a standalone editor.14:52
OvenWerkssakrecoer: we just have added ubuntustudio-dev to etherpad14:54
OvenWerkssakrecoer: I have applied to do this.14:54
OvenWerkssakrecoer: I notice there are other teams in there already.14:55
autumnaOvenWerks: the reason I asked is because I have been having the same problem as well.14:56
OvenWerksautumna: we used to have gedit, but I am thinking to look at what is available.14:57
sakrecoergood idea, i'll sort that out asap. arriving at my station now... actualy want to sit at my computer hanging out with you ...14:57
sakrecoerhehe..14:57
sakrecoerread you later!! <314:57
autumnaOvenWerks:  yeah. that's what I have been using interim14:57
autumnabye sakrecoer14:58
OvenWerksautumna: actually one of my first installs is joe. (cli editor)15:00
autumna*goes to check*15:01
autumnaah15:02
autumnathis is quite nice, but yeah I am personally looking for something lightweight with a gui15:04
OvenWerksautumna: I don't want emacs :)15:16
autumnaI don't think emacs qualifies as lightweight15:16
OvenWerkseasy to use either...15:17
autumnawell among the console based options15:17
OvenWerksautumna: maybe you like VI with a GUI?15:17
* autumna is not a VI person15:17
autumna;D15:17
OvenWerks:P15:18
autumnano seriously I firmly fall into the emacs side of that old argument ;D15:18
autumnaI tried bracket. 15:18
autumnaits pretty, but I don't know, felt a bit sluggish?15:18
OvenWerksI don't like either. (which is why I have joe15:18
autumna*nods*. I think I'll stick to mousepad for now, until I find something that fits15:20
* OvenWerks is installing a few from synaptic (no snaps that way)15:22
* OvenWerks doesn't like tea (the editor)15:27
OvenWerksJuffed has just shown me a file where the foreground and background colours are the same :(15:29
OvenWerkseditra looks nice (so far)15:30
autumnathat's entertaining (re juffed) *goes to try those ones15:35
autumnajuffed looks like it is crashing15:37
OvenWerksNEdit crashes.15:37
autumna(I am off to dinner but will check the log when I get back)15:38
* OvenWerks has set editra as his default text editor... for now.15:45
autumnaback16:37
OvenWerksautumna: I am going to try editra for now, if it gives trouble I will probably just put gedit in.17:22
autumna*nods*17:22
autumnaI migth try to run gedit again, it was bugging out for me in 14.04 but then again, my previous install had its own issues17:23
knomeOvenWerks, what's wrong with mousepad?17:23
OvenWerksautumna: I used gedit all through 14.04 with no problems.17:23
autumnait worked.. just sometimes it would take 2 tries to start it.. as I said my install was in bad shape so chances are it had to do with it17:24
OvenWerksknome: nothing for quick use, For coding it is nice to have the colour coding, bracket finding, tabbing that goes with that.17:25
OvenWerksknome: I have not removed mousepad17:25
knomeOvenWerks, mousepad supports syntax highlighting and matching brackets17:26
knomeand autoindent17:26
OvenWerksknome: I wasn't seeing it in the quick test file I opened17:27
autumnaOverWerks: I did see syntax highlighting on my shellscript17:27
autumnaalthough maybe the default theme doesn't have it?17:27
knomei'm a former gedit user myself, now using mousepad because why not17:27
autumnamousepad is quite good. I am looking for something with folder view but isn't a full fledged IDE for javascript projects through17:28
autumnapity juffEd is crashing, because that looked like in the exact ballpark17:28
OvenWerksknome: The default setup for mousepad makes it look very minimal.17:32
knomeOvenWerks, yeah17:32
OvenWerksknome the bracket highlighting is not what I want... have to try some different colours I think (bold does not stand out as much as a different colour would.17:34
OvenWerksclasic colour is better that kate.17:34
knomeOvenWerks, if you want a different colorscheme, look into "gtksourceview" theming, it's simple enough you can get your mods in in 10 minutes17:34
knomeOvenWerks, i don't know if studio is shipping those, but i did light/dark xubuntu themes17:35
OvenWerksknome: The stock list under view has probably enough.17:35
OvenWerksTrying cobalt now.17:35
knomei didn't like any of those, but it's a personal preference anyway :)17:35
OvenWerkssolarized colours are ok too.17:36
OvenWerksknome: mouse pad has come a long way. My last really good look at it was right after it came out I think. Xubuntu had leappad the version before.17:38
OvenWerks(I think)17:39
autumnahehe17:39
autumnaI need to lookup how to add custom themes into everything17:40
OvenWerksknome: how easy is it to change the system defaults for mousepad? Without changing the package itself)17:40
knomeyeah, we used leafpad for a moment since there was something wrong with mousepad17:42
knomesystem defaults for mousepad? hmm, that's a good question17:42
knomewe are doing that outside the mousepad package17:43
knomeso if studio wants to do something similar, will work17:44
OvenWerksknome: I'm not sure what would be best, but something wich shows known source files with some colour so the first time user knows it has extra functions I think.17:48
OvenWerkstxt files the way they is fine.17:48
OvenWerksBasically set the clasic colour theme would do it I think.17:49
OvenWerksIf a user knows the stuff is there they will look through the settings if they don't like what colours are used.17:50
OvenWerksknome: Which package is xubuntu using to set mousepad defaults?17:58
OvenWerks(I don't see it in -default-settings)17:58
autumnabrb17:59
autumnaback18:09
knomeOvenWerks, xubuntu-artwork19:02
OvenWerksknome: I would have never thought to look there :)19:07
knomemmh, it's a bit weird i guess19:09
OvenWerksknome: now that I have looked at it, I understand.19:18
knome:)19:18
OvenWerksThese are not mousepad setting, but system settings that affect how mousepad looks.19:19
knomeyep19:20
OvenWerksknome: I can't even find where mousepad keeps it's user config. .config/Mousepad/ has the keyboard accel, but not the settings.19:41
zequencesakrecoer: To rename a page, use the dropdown menu for the page. It only shows when you are not editing21:11
zequencesakrecoer: knome: we should probably make our team ubuntustudio-documentation a moderated team and add that to the etherpad team21:15
zequenceThat way we can control ourselves who gets access to the wiki, which should be all moderated teams21:15

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