[06:37] zak? anyone? [08:55] cfhowlett: Hi [08:55] hey zeq. do you have the default wallpaper without the US logo? [08:56] cfhowlett: Yep. Let me get you a link [08:56] Zak hasn't been involved this time around [08:56] ah! OK [08:56] doing a tribute wallpaper cuz ... https://drive.google.com/open?id=0Bwd8hWRpQJ8DWElxOHlVNmhQbDA [08:58] cfhowlett: Oh, right. Prince. One of the immortal ones :) [08:58] indeed [08:59] although the Purple wallpaper + Prince is quite natural [09:00] https://cloud.mousike.me/index.php/s/PKUfFXojOmzcJTW [09:00] perfect! thanks [09:00] np [09:01] I'll send these 2 to the flickr accout [09:06] alright [11:52] Renamed the package selection page for Y to yakkety, since that seems to be the new code name https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/PackageSelection/yakkety [11:53] zak vs. gnu ??? they all look the same to me ... [11:54] I can't tell them apart either [11:55] You mean, yak? [11:55] yak. sorry, but yeah. [11:55] up next: zesty zebra? [11:56] Makes me think of the movie "The Aviator", when Howard Hughes goes, "Is, thateee, is that a Yak?" [11:56] zebra is nice graphically [14:28] thanx zequence !! [14:28] wanted to ask you how to do that! [14:29] :) [14:32] going to have to be away lots until monday, hope that i'm not undermining huge volumes of motivation for the yaketi yak party [14:32] i realy look forward to get my hands dirty on it actualy. [14:33] cfhowlett: good to read you! :) [14:34] hey hey hey sakrecoer [14:34] I noticed that we picked up xubuntu wallpapers. VERY nice! [14:35] :) haha! i didn't notice that [14:36] but i noticed that the folder 'backgrounds' appears as a shortcut in save as dialogues. [14:37] also that, once you pick another folder for background images, going back to 'background' the selection box is empty.. [14:37] will file a bug asaic [14:39] cfhowlett: you never join #ubuntustudio-offtopic . you don't have to of course.. just making sure you know it exists [14:39] :) [14:39] ah! will do [14:40] sakrecoer: I don't seem to be able to edit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/PackageSelection/yakkety [14:41] sakrecoer: you may prehaps wish to add dispcalgui to graphics [14:42] It replaces the GCM group of programs (GCM = gnome color monitor) [14:43] sakrecoer: reason for replcement, GCM does not work with xfce, DisplyCAL does. [14:43] newbie question, is there a procedure to proposing packages, or people allowed? [14:44] OvenWerks: sounds like a good idea. i'm in a train, atm but are you loging into wiki with the etherpad team option? [14:44] sakrecoer: how would I do that? [14:45] OvenWerks: join the etherpad team on launchpad :) [14:45] Oh goody :P [14:45] i don't have the url at hand, sorry.. [14:46] It doesn't have to be right now, I just don't want to forget ... [14:46] sakrecoer: this one right? https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-etherpad [14:46] autumna: i'm still a bit unsure, can you put your ideas in some textfile until monday? [14:47] sakrecoer: of course. [14:47] of course [14:47] \o/ [14:47] sorry for the inconvenience... [14:48] guys I am not in the post release exhaustion state like rest of you, that doesn't mean I don't sympathize with the rest of you ;D [14:48] I have to get a proper text editor for 16.04... [14:49] that is kind of you autumna :) OvenWerks, don't like mousepad? [14:49] http://www.ovenwerks.net/paste/UStudio-Y-Ideas.txt sakrecoer [14:50] mousepad is fine... for some things like ^^^, but not for others. [14:51] OvenWerks: you are looking for something development focused? [14:52] 19306 members? (in etherpad) [14:52] autumna: I have already installed Geany, but also like a standalone editor. [14:54] sakrecoer: we just have added ubuntustudio-dev to etherpad [14:54] sakrecoer: I have applied to do this. [14:55] sakrecoer: I notice there are other teams in there already. [14:56] OvenWerks: the reason I asked is because I have been having the same problem as well. [14:57] autumna: we used to have gedit, but I am thinking to look at what is available. [14:57] good idea, i'll sort that out asap. arriving at my station now... actualy want to sit at my computer hanging out with you ... [14:57] hehe.. [14:57] read you later!! <3 [14:57] OvenWerks: yeah. that's what I have been using interim [14:58] bye sakrecoer [15:00] autumna: actually one of my first installs is joe. (cli editor) [15:01] *goes to check* [15:02] ah [15:04] this is quite nice, but yeah I am personally looking for something lightweight with a gui [15:16] autumna: I don't want emacs :) [15:16] I don't think emacs qualifies as lightweight [15:17] easy to use either... [15:17] well among the console based options [15:17] autumna: maybe you like VI with a GUI? [15:17] * autumna is not a VI person [15:17] ;D [15:18] :P [15:18] no seriously I firmly fall into the emacs side of that old argument ;D [15:18] I tried bracket. [15:18] its pretty, but I don't know, felt a bit sluggish? [15:18] I don't like either. (which is why I have joe [15:20] *nods*. I think I'll stick to mousepad for now, until I find something that fits [15:22] * OvenWerks is installing a few from synaptic (no snaps that way) [15:27] * OvenWerks doesn't like tea (the editor) [15:29] Juffed has just shown me a file where the foreground and background colours are the same :( [15:30] editra looks nice (so far) [15:35] that's entertaining (re juffed) *goes to try those ones [15:37] juffed looks like it is crashing [15:37] NEdit crashes. [15:38] (I am off to dinner but will check the log when I get back) [15:45] * OvenWerks has set editra as his default text editor... for now. [16:37] back [17:22] autumna: I am going to try editra for now, if it gives trouble I will probably just put gedit in. [17:22] *nods* [17:23] I migth try to run gedit again, it was bugging out for me in 14.04 but then again, my previous install had its own issues [17:23] OvenWerks, what's wrong with mousepad? [17:23] autumna: I used gedit all through 14.04 with no problems. [17:24] it worked.. just sometimes it would take 2 tries to start it.. as I said my install was in bad shape so chances are it had to do with it [17:25] knome: nothing for quick use, For coding it is nice to have the colour coding, bracket finding, tabbing that goes with that. [17:25] knome: I have not removed mousepad [17:26] OvenWerks, mousepad supports syntax highlighting and matching brackets [17:26] and autoindent [17:27] knome: I wasn't seeing it in the quick test file I opened [17:27] OverWerks: I did see syntax highlighting on my shellscript [17:27] although maybe the default theme doesn't have it? [17:27] i'm a former gedit user myself, now using mousepad because why not [17:28] mousepad is quite good. I am looking for something with folder view but isn't a full fledged IDE for javascript projects through [17:28] pity juffEd is crashing, because that looked like in the exact ballpark [17:32] knome: The default setup for mousepad makes it look very minimal. [17:32] OvenWerks, yeah [17:34] knome the bracket highlighting is not what I want... have to try some different colours I think (bold does not stand out as much as a different colour would. [17:34] clasic colour is better that kate. [17:34] OvenWerks, if you want a different colorscheme, look into "gtksourceview" theming, it's simple enough you can get your mods in in 10 minutes [17:35] OvenWerks, i don't know if studio is shipping those, but i did light/dark xubuntu themes [17:35] knome: The stock list under view has probably enough. [17:35] Trying cobalt now. [17:35] i didn't like any of those, but it's a personal preference anyway :) [17:36] solarized colours are ok too. [17:38] knome: mouse pad has come a long way. My last really good look at it was right after it came out I think. Xubuntu had leappad the version before. [17:39] (I think) [17:39] hehe [17:40] I need to lookup how to add custom themes into everything [17:40] knome: how easy is it to change the system defaults for mousepad? Without changing the package itself) [17:42] yeah, we used leafpad for a moment since there was something wrong with mousepad [17:42] system defaults for mousepad? hmm, that's a good question [17:43] we are doing that outside the mousepad package [17:44] so if studio wants to do something similar, will work [17:48] knome: I'm not sure what would be best, but something wich shows known source files with some colour so the first time user knows it has extra functions I think. [17:48] txt files the way they is fine. [17:49] Basically set the clasic colour theme would do it I think. [17:50] If a user knows the stuff is there they will look through the settings if they don't like what colours are used. [17:58] knome: Which package is xubuntu using to set mousepad defaults? [17:58] (I don't see it in -default-settings) [17:59] brb [18:09] back [19:02] OvenWerks, xubuntu-artwork [19:07] knome: I would have never thought to look there :) [19:09] mmh, it's a bit weird i guess [19:18] knome: now that I have looked at it, I understand. [19:18] :) [19:19] These are not mousepad setting, but system settings that affect how mousepad looks. [19:20] yep [19:41] knome: I can't even find where mousepad keeps it's user config. .config/Mousepad/ has the keyboard accel, but not the settings. [21:11] sakrecoer: To rename a page, use the dropdown menu for the page. It only shows when you are not editing [21:15] sakrecoer: knome: we should probably make our team ubuntustudio-documentation a moderated team and add that to the etherpad team [21:15] That way we can control ourselves who gets access to the wiki, which should be all moderated teams