[06:37] <cfhowlett> zak?  anyone?
[08:55] <zequence> cfhowlett: Hi
[08:55] <cfhowlett> hey zeq.  do you have the default wallpaper without the US logo?  
[08:56] <zequence> cfhowlett: Yep. Let me get you a link
[08:56] <zequence> Zak hasn't been involved this time around
[08:56] <cfhowlett> ah!  OK
[08:56] <cfhowlett> doing a tribute wallpaper cuz ... https://drive.google.com/open?id=0Bwd8hWRpQJ8DWElxOHlVNmhQbDA
[08:58] <zequence> cfhowlett: Oh, right. Prince. One of the immortal ones :)
[08:58] <cfhowlett> indeed
[08:59] <cfhowlett> although the Purple wallpaper + Prince is quite natural
[09:00] <zequence> https://cloud.mousike.me/index.php/s/PKUfFXojOmzcJTW
[09:00] <cfhowlett> perfect! thanks
[09:00] <zequence> np
[09:01] <cfhowlett> I'll send these 2 to the flickr accout
[09:06] <zequence> alright
[11:52] <zequence> Renamed the package selection page for Y to yakkety, since that seems to be the new code name https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/PackageSelection/yakkety
[11:53] <cfhowlett> zak vs. gnu ???  they all look the same to me ...
[11:54] <zequence> I can't tell them apart either
[11:55] <zequence> You mean, yak?
[11:55] <cfhowlett> yak.  sorry, but yeah.
[11:55] <cfhowlett> up next: zesty zebra?
[11:56] <zequence> Makes me think of the movie "The Aviator", when Howard Hughes goes, "Is, thateee, is that a Yak?"
[11:56] <zequence> zebra is nice graphically
[14:28] <sakrecoer> thanx zequence !!
[14:28] <sakrecoer> wanted to ask you how to do that!
[14:29] <sakrecoer> :)
[14:32] <sakrecoer> going to have to be away lots until monday, hope that i'm not undermining huge volumes of motivation for the yaketi yak party
[14:32] <sakrecoer> i realy look forward to get my hands dirty on it actualy.
[14:33] <sakrecoer> cfhowlett: good to read you! :)
[14:34] <cfhowlett> hey hey hey sakrecoer 
[14:34] <cfhowlett> I noticed that we picked up xubuntu wallpapers.  VERY nice!
[14:35] <sakrecoer> :) haha! i didn't notice that
[14:36] <sakrecoer> but i noticed that the folder 'backgrounds' appears as a shortcut in save as dialogues.
[14:37] <sakrecoer> also that, once you pick another folder for background images, going back to 'background' the selection box is empty..
[14:37] <sakrecoer> will file a bug asaic
[14:39] <sakrecoer> cfhowlett: you never join #ubuntustudio-offtopic . you don't have to of course.. just making sure you know it exists
[14:39] <sakrecoer> :)
[14:39] <cfhowlett> ah!  will do
[14:40] <OvenWerks> sakrecoer: I don't seem to be able to edit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/PackageSelection/yakkety
[14:41] <OvenWerks> sakrecoer: you may prehaps wish to add dispcalgui to graphics
[14:42] <OvenWerks> It replaces the GCM group of programs (GCM = gnome color monitor)
[14:43] <OvenWerks> sakrecoer: reason for replcement, GCM does not work with xfce, DisplyCAL does.
[14:43] <autumna> newbie question, is there a procedure to proposing packages, or people allowed?
[14:44] <sakrecoer> OvenWerks: sounds like a good idea. i'm in a train, atm but are you loging into wiki with the etherpad team option?
[14:44] <OvenWerks> sakrecoer: how would I do that?
[14:45] <sakrecoer> OvenWerks: join the etherpad team on launchpad :)
[14:45] <OvenWerks> Oh goody :P
[14:45] <sakrecoer> i don't have the url at hand, sorry..
[14:46] <OvenWerks> It doesn't have to be right now, I just don't want to forget ...
[14:46] <autumna> sakrecoer: this one right? https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-etherpad
[14:46] <sakrecoer> autumna: i'm still a bit unsure, can you put your ideas in some textfile until monday?
[14:47] <OvenWerks> sakrecoer: of course.
[14:47] <autumna> of course 
[14:47] <sakrecoer> \o/ 
[14:47] <sakrecoer> sorry for the inconvenience... 
[14:48] <autumna> guys I am not in the post release exhaustion state like rest of you, that doesn't mean I don't sympathize with the rest of you ;D
[14:48] <OvenWerks> I have to get a proper text editor for 16.04...
[14:49] <sakrecoer> that is kind of you autumna :) OvenWerks, don't like mousepad?
[14:49] <OvenWerks> http://www.ovenwerks.net/paste/UStudio-Y-Ideas.txt sakrecoer 
[14:50] <OvenWerks> mousepad is fine... for some things like ^^^, but not for others.
[14:51] <autumna> OvenWerks: you are looking for something development focused?
[14:52] <OvenWerks> 19306 members? (in etherpad)
[14:52] <OvenWerks> autumna: I have already installed Geany, but also like a standalone editor.
[14:54] <OvenWerks> sakrecoer: we just have added ubuntustudio-dev to etherpad
[14:54] <OvenWerks> sakrecoer: I have applied to do this.
[14:55] <OvenWerks> sakrecoer: I notice there are other teams in there already.
[14:56] <autumna> OvenWerks: the reason I asked is because I have been having the same problem as well.
[14:57] <OvenWerks> autumna: we used to have gedit, but I am thinking to look at what is available.
[14:57] <sakrecoer> good idea, i'll sort that out asap. arriving at my station now... actualy want to sit at my computer hanging out with you ...
[14:57] <sakrecoer> hehe..
[14:57] <sakrecoer> read you later!! <3
[14:57] <autumna> OvenWerks:  yeah. that's what I have been using interim
[14:58] <autumna> bye sakrecoer
[15:00] <OvenWerks> autumna: actually one of my first installs is joe. (cli editor)
[15:01] <autumna> *goes to check*
[15:02] <autumna> ah
[15:04] <autumna> this is quite nice, but yeah I am personally looking for something lightweight with a gui
[15:16] <OvenWerks> autumna: I don't want emacs :)
[15:16] <autumna> I don't think emacs qualifies as lightweight
[15:17] <OvenWerks> easy to use either...
[15:17] <autumna> well among the console based options
[15:17] <OvenWerks> autumna: maybe you like VI with a GUI?
[15:17]  * autumna is not a VI person
[15:17] <autumna> ;D
[15:18] <OvenWerks> :P
[15:18] <autumna> no seriously I firmly fall into the emacs side of that old argument ;D
[15:18] <autumna> I tried bracket. 
[15:18] <autumna> its pretty, but I don't know, felt a bit sluggish?
[15:18] <OvenWerks> I don't like either. (which is why I have joe
[15:20] <autumna> *nods*. I think I'll stick to mousepad for now, until I find something that fits
[15:22]  * OvenWerks is installing a few from synaptic (no snaps that way)
[15:27]  * OvenWerks doesn't like tea (the editor)
[15:29] <OvenWerks> Juffed has just shown me a file where the foreground and background colours are the same :(
[15:30] <OvenWerks> editra looks nice (so far)
[15:35] <autumna> that's entertaining (re juffed) *goes to try those ones
[15:37] <autumna> juffed looks like it is crashing
[15:37] <OvenWerks> NEdit crashes.
[15:38] <autumna> (I am off to dinner but will check the log when I get back)
[15:45]  * OvenWerks has set editra as his default text editor... for now.
[16:37] <autumna> back
[17:22] <OvenWerks> autumna: I am going to try editra for now, if it gives trouble I will probably just put gedit in.
[17:22] <autumna> *nods*
[17:23] <autumna> I migth try to run gedit again, it was bugging out for me in 14.04 but then again, my previous install had its own issues
[17:23] <knome> OvenWerks, what's wrong with mousepad?
[17:23] <OvenWerks> autumna: I used gedit all through 14.04 with no problems.
[17:24] <autumna> it worked.. just sometimes it would take 2 tries to start it.. as I said my install was in bad shape so chances are it had to do with it
[17:25] <OvenWerks> knome: nothing for quick use, For coding it is nice to have the colour coding, bracket finding, tabbing that goes with that.
[17:25] <OvenWerks> knome: I have not removed mousepad
[17:26] <knome> OvenWerks, mousepad supports syntax highlighting and matching brackets
[17:26] <knome> and autoindent
[17:27] <OvenWerks> knome: I wasn't seeing it in the quick test file I opened
[17:27] <autumna> OverWerks: I did see syntax highlighting on my shellscript
[17:27] <autumna> although maybe the default theme doesn't have it?
[17:27] <knome> i'm a former gedit user myself, now using mousepad because why not
[17:28] <autumna> mousepad is quite good. I am looking for something with folder view but isn't a full fledged IDE for javascript projects through
[17:28] <autumna> pity juffEd is crashing, because that looked like in the exact ballpark
[17:32] <OvenWerks> knome: The default setup for mousepad makes it look very minimal.
[17:32] <knome> OvenWerks, yeah
[17:34] <OvenWerks> knome the bracket highlighting is not what I want... have to try some different colours I think (bold does not stand out as much as a different colour would.
[17:34] <OvenWerks> clasic colour is better that kate.
[17:34] <knome> OvenWerks, if you want a different colorscheme, look into "gtksourceview" theming, it's simple enough you can get your mods in in 10 minutes
[17:35] <knome> OvenWerks, i don't know if studio is shipping those, but i did light/dark xubuntu themes
[17:35] <OvenWerks> knome: The stock list under view has probably enough.
[17:35] <OvenWerks> Trying cobalt now.
[17:35] <knome> i didn't like any of those, but it's a personal preference anyway :)
[17:36] <OvenWerks> solarized colours are ok too.
[17:38] <OvenWerks> knome: mouse pad has come a long way. My last really good look at it was right after it came out I think. Xubuntu had leappad the version before.
[17:39] <OvenWerks> (I think)
[17:39] <autumna> hehe
[17:40] <autumna> I need to lookup how to add custom themes into everything
[17:40] <OvenWerks> knome: how easy is it to change the system defaults for mousepad? Without changing the package itself)
[17:42] <knome> yeah, we used leafpad for a moment since there was something wrong with mousepad
[17:42] <knome> system defaults for mousepad? hmm, that's a good question
[17:43] <knome> we are doing that outside the mousepad package
[17:44] <knome> so if studio wants to do something similar, will work
[17:48] <OvenWerks> knome: I'm not sure what would be best, but something wich shows known source files with some colour so the first time user knows it has extra functions I think.
[17:48] <OvenWerks> txt files the way they is fine.
[17:49] <OvenWerks> Basically set the clasic colour theme would do it I think.
[17:50] <OvenWerks> If a user knows the stuff is there they will look through the settings if they don't like what colours are used.
[17:58] <OvenWerks> knome: Which package is xubuntu using to set mousepad defaults?
[17:58] <OvenWerks> (I don't see it in -default-settings)
[17:59] <autumna> brb
[18:09] <autumna> back
[19:02] <knome> OvenWerks, xubuntu-artwork
[19:07] <OvenWerks> knome: I would have never thought to look there :)
[19:09] <knome> mmh, it's a bit weird i guess
[19:18] <OvenWerks> knome: now that I have looked at it, I understand.
[19:18] <knome> :)
[19:19] <OvenWerks> These are not mousepad setting, but system settings that affect how mousepad looks.
[19:20] <knome> yep
[19:41] <OvenWerks> knome: I can't even find where mousepad keeps it's user config. .config/Mousepad/ has the keyboard accel, but not the settings.
[21:11] <zequence> sakrecoer: To rename a page, use the dropdown menu for the page. It only shows when you are not editing
[21:15] <zequence> sakrecoer: knome: we should probably make our team ubuntustudio-documentation a moderated team and add that to the etherpad team
[21:15] <zequence> That way we can control ourselves who gets access to the wiki, which should be all moderated teams