[00:42] <_0xbadc0de> msg NickServ identify _0xbadc0de KaOsTh30ry
[00:43] <Unit193> Might want to change that now, and sadly you were even already identified.
[00:43] <_0xbadc0de> I know
[00:44] <_0xbadc0de> I just did it for the trollz
[00:44] <_0xbadc0de> lol
[00:44] <_0xbadc0de> not my real pw
[00:45] <goddard> any way to improve performance of KDE
[00:46] <goddard> my laptop runs hotter then when running unity for example
[01:38] <WitherSlick> Hey guys, my desktop widgets aren't working properly on a fresh install of 16.04
[01:38] <WitherSlick> any tips?
[01:43] <geoffm> I just installed kubuntu 16.04. so far so good, but I can't find a widget to inhibit automatic screensaver
[01:44] <geoffm> anyone knows of something? I tried all the keywords I could think of
[01:45] <geoffm> hmm this battery and brightness widget has this "enable power management" toggle. maybe that does it
[02:51] <Engi> Hello, is this where I can ask for help with Kubuntu?
[02:52] <krytarik> Engi: Yes.
[02:55] <Engi> Okay, well, I'm using Kubuntu 14.04 with three monitors. One of them has a native resolution of 2560x1080 and it isn't available as an option. I'm using nvidia 304.131 video drivers. I've tried to get this to work using cvt, and xrandr newmode and addmode, but I get an error BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes)
[02:56] <Engi> I'm also dual booting Win10 and it supports it just fine on this hardware. Is there anything I can try to get it to work on this resolution?
[03:14] <Engi> Am I doing something wrong? Should I go look somewhere else?
 Am I doing something wrong? Should I go look somewhere else?
[03:17] <WitherSlick> what do you mean? I just joined and missed the first part of that convo
[03:17] <Engi> Sorry, I posted my problem earlier and haven't gotten a reply for about 15 minutes. I can repost.
[03:18] <WitherSlick> go ahead
[03:18] <Engi> Okay, well, I'm using Kubuntu 14.04 with three monitors. One of them has a native resolution of 2560x1080 and it isn't available as an option. I'm using nvidia 304.131 video drivers. I've tried to get this to work using cvt, and xrandr newmode and addmode, but I get an error BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes)
[03:18] <Engi> I'm also dual booting Win10 and it supports it just fine on this hardware. Is there anything I can try to get it to work on this resolution?
[03:19] <WitherSlick> I was really hoping I could help, but I actually have no idea on that one man. Good luck finding an answer, I'd try the Kubuntu users mailing list.
[03:20] <Engi> Kubuntu users mailing list... Ill go look for that
[03:20] <Engi> Thank you much!
 kubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com
 kubuntu users mailing list
[03:21] <Engi> Should I just send my issue to that address?
 yea tell users about your issue
 someone might know more then we do
[03:22] <Engi> alright, thank you!
[03:22] <WitherSlick> No problem mate :) hope you get it figured out.
 I've not had any issues with monitors  though mine stop at 1920x1080
 nvidia driver might be the issue
[03:24] <Engi> I've tried it with the software drivers (non nvidia) and the max didn't go past 1920x1080. That's all I know
[04:04] <chaoz> hello does anyone know how to fix kwin crashing every 5 seconds i think its a setting or something but im also having plasma problems on my second monitor. i have a amd 5450 and i know the driver should be working right im on 16.04.
[04:28] <coder25> I just  reinstalled Kubuntu 14.04 this time without LVM. I believe some app is verifying the system is up to date and slowing things down. The disk usage light is on. How can I stop this?
[04:34] <coder25> Rephrase: I completed the reinstall yesterday. Today the system sometimes is slow with the disk usage light on. ???
[04:37] <coder25> Rephrase 2:  The original install was LVM, with /boot as a separate partition, only very small, and the boot partition was full, old kernels of Linux could not be removed. Knoppix 7.4 refused to see the LVM partition. The new install without LVM has everything in one partition except a 2nd partition for the swap file.
[04:57] <coder25> I just configured Muon to not show notifications of available updates.
[05:07] <Khaotic> any idea why i cant get to my desktop when i log in?
[05:07] <Khaotic> i just get a blank screen
[07:05] <lmh1> hi
[07:07] <lmh1> http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/x86-64 bits do any have troble with this?
[07:21] <viewer|84326> hi good morning
[07:23] <DavyCrockett> Hello friend
[07:23] <pierre_> Hello too
[07:23] <viewer|84326> the colors of the desktop environment are completely wrong, kubuntu 16.04 64bit
[07:23] <viewer|84326> others have the same problem?
[07:37] <viewer|84326> xrender color good
[07:37] <viewer|84326> opengel 2.0 and opengl 3.1 color wrong
[07:45] <viewer|33846> Ok now, I uninstalled the driver oibaf
[07:47] <Khaotic> i accidently removed left click opens desktop menu. how do i readd it?
[07:47] <Khaotic> and the launcher wont open for me
[07:53] <Perlin> goodmorning
[07:55] <Perlin> I have multiple pc that have trouble installing Kubuntu 16.04. After fist boot, Plasma craches, all shell packages are missing. What to do?
[07:55] <Perlin> Also in Virtualbox i get this message, with and without 3d acceleration.
[08:19] <Khaotic> so when ever i try to open anything it opens the immediately closes
[08:37] <rohan> hi. i have kubuntu 16.04 on a laptop that has nvidia+intel card. I have disabled the nvidia card using nvidia-prime,
[08:37] <rohan> but after disabling the nvidia card, i lost all the desktop effects
[08:37] <rohan> is there a way to keep them enabled and yet disable nvidia?
[08:38] <rohan> it used to work fine on 15.10 but with bumblebee
[09:45] <jubo2> Hiya and thanks thanks for the great OS
[09:45] <jubo2> I got a keyboard problem that exhibits sometimes
[09:46] <jubo2> I tried rebooting but that didn't help
[09:46] <jubo2> I gonna anyways reinstall this Kubuntu16.04 in a little while
[09:46] <jubo2> this system is even called -tmp
[09:46] <lordievader> jubo2: Could you tred into some more details? A keyboard problem can be anything.
[09:46] <jubo2> that much of a tmp solution
[09:47] <jubo2> lordievader: well.. I get wrong chars when I hit ctrl-key combinations
[09:47] <lordievader> Since when do ctrl + key combo produce output?
[09:48] <jubo2> ok alt gr + key
[09:48] <jubo2> seems to be only in browser window btw
[09:48] <lordievader> Ah, sounds like a locale issue.
[09:48] <jubo2> In irc it works
[09:48] <lordievader> Hmm, does the browser use a different locale?
[09:49] <jubo2> I dunno. How do I check?
[09:49] <lordievader> Spit through the settings, I suppose.
[09:51] <jubo2> I gonna go ask in #firefox
[09:58] <nicofrand> hi
[10:00] <lordievader> o/
[10:01] <nicofrand> Is there any known issue with 16.04 and large files copy ? I can't copy (the disk does not respond anymore) any really big file like 11Gio, with 12Go RAM, and my RAM seems fine. If i split the file in 2, it's OK.
[10:10] <anas> Hello, i have a project that collects temprutature, i use the waterproof w1 that goes in the Pi using RJ45, I CANT get any readings from /sys/bus/devices/w1 i loaded moduels (w1_therm, w1_gpio) and done everhting
[10:10] <anas> nothing helped
[10:10] <anas> i dunno if am searcing the right way cuz everyone who made such project just dont uses rj45
[10:10] <anas> any advice is really appreciated
[10:22] <Smurphy> nicofrand: Weird. Which filesystem are you using ?
[10:22] <jubo2> so irc and shell see the keyboard just fine
[10:23] <jubo2> but FireFox and Chromium both exhibit the borked keymap situation
[10:23] <jubo2> works also in LibreOffice
[10:24] <jubo2> just the browsers seem affected by the bug or whatevs it is
[10:25] <jubo2> needs som help..
[10:25] <jubo2> I get withdrawal from wikiditing
[10:25] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[10:25] <Smurphy> Morning
[10:25] <jubo2> Hiya BluesKaj
[10:26] <BluesKaj> Hi jubo2, Smurphy
[10:26] <jubo2> weird bug is making typing impossible in web browser(s)
[10:27] <jubo2> I have no idea what's wrong. In irc, shell, LibreOffice etc. the keyboard works. as. expected.
[10:28] <BluesKaj> that's a new one, never heard of that before...no clue
[10:29] <Smurphy> jubo2: tried another browser ? Or is just chrome affected ?
[10:29] <jubo2> I should prlly just grab the files and reinstall clean from the post release
[10:29] <jubo2> Smurphy: FireFox exhibits same problem
[10:30] <jubo2> nope
[10:30] <jubo2> Is a problem with some javascript on wikivoyage.org
[10:30] <jubo2> coz in other browser tabs the keyboard works just
[10:30] <jubo2> fine
[10:30] <jubo2> I go bug the people at #wikimedia-tech
[10:31] <nicofrand> Smurphy: xfs
[10:32] <Smurphy> nicofrand: Hmmm. Any chance you could create a ext4fs for testing purposes ?
[10:32] <Smurphy> xfs should be able to handle it, but apparently it does not ;}
[10:33] <nicofrand> Smurphy: I'll try and come back. In the meantime, is there any way I can ensure this is related to xfs ? I do not know in which log to look for or even what to look for
[10:39] <nicofrand> Smurphy: I've got another formatted in ext4, would that be OK to test with it ? Or does it have to be with the exact same disk ?
[11:01] <Smurphy> yes. Sure
[11:01] <Smurphy> Check out what "dmesg" tells you -> Kernel ring buffer. it should mention something.
[11:02] <Smurphy> (Was having lunch. Sorry).
[11:03] <nicofrand> it is fine :)
[11:03] <nicofrand> I'll begin by trying with the other disk using ext4 then
[11:16] <Smurphy> ok.
[11:18] <nicofrand> Smurphy: well that's weird, doing the same thing than before (that I tried several times), nothing wrong happens. I am creating a virtual machine with VirtualBox in parallel, maybe having less memory changes the ouput ?
[11:19] <Smurphy> yep. Can be.
[11:20] <Smurphy> I will have to leave... :} Sorry. Family comes first ;)
[11:20] <nicofrand> of course, thanks for the help !
[11:20] <nicofrand> I'll ask again if I reproduce the issue :)
[11:22] <steve-_-1> hi all. excuse my ignorance, but what's the keyboard shortcut in kubuntu 16.04 to start the launcher? I found this, but it looks unsolved? https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=89&t=39073&sid=806d57dcca6cd252658c3265af0a230c&start=75
[11:34] <addtru> Hi everybody!  I am trying a fresh install of kubuntu 16.04.  I can not configure the pppoe connection.  Pppoeconf returns :  command not found
[11:36] <addtru> I am using kubuntu for some yearsnow, but it is fitted time to encounter this
[11:37] <BluesKaj> addtru, in network manager?
[11:37] <addtru> In terminal
[11:38] <BluesKaj> try network manager
[11:38] <addtru> I was trying aa usual sudo pppoeconf
[11:40] <mparillo> steve-_-1: I use alt-F1
[11:40] <BluesKaj> addtru, install pppoeconf , it's not installed by default
[11:40] <steve-_-1> mparillo: should that be working in vmware on osx? opens a osx system preference here
[11:45] <mparillo> Sorry, I missed that part. That said, it does work on VMware Player on Win7, even before I sudo apt install open-vm-tools-desktop
[11:45] <steve-_-1> mparillo: ok got it. it's alt fn F1 on osx / vmware.
[11:46] <steve-_-1> I guess there's already a bug for the "last checked xxx milliseconds ago" bug?
[11:46] <nicofrand> Smurphy: if you come back : I got the same issue again,  here is what dmesg displayed : https://framabin.org/?24ede0faa66685cd#vjKBRPKmL4Xza8ab1EUJ1noVjVRin9i4JnTkszHZ/T4= (sdb is in an external USB-plugged box)
[11:52] <swipe> Hi, anyone here use Konversation? If so (if you haven't changed it) could you tell me what your default font and size is in Settings\`Configure Konversation\Interface\font?
[11:54] <polaris> swipe: Noto Sans 10
[11:56] <BluesKaj> swipe, I'm on a big screeen tv/monitor, dejavu sans 16
[11:56] <BluesKaj> sitting 3M away
[11:57] <addtru> Package pppoeconf is missing from kubuntu 16.04 live cd.  Because of that I cannot configure my internet connection
[11:58] <addtru> Anybody knows somehign about that, please?
[11:58] <addtru> encountered some other problems too, during install
[11:59] <addtru> I would have loved to use plasma 5.5. but for now i will stick to the ugly unity
[12:00] <BluesKaj> addtru, then use the network manager, tempoarily to eatablish an internet connection to install pppoeconf
[12:01] <addtru> I did try that, but did not manage to establish a connection.  I am using linux since 2008, but i am not a geek
[12:01] <BluesKaj> addtru, you're stuck with Unity? Then you installed Ubuntu , not Kubuntu
[12:02] <addtru> No, i am installing ubuntu just now, as we speak
[12:02] <addtru> because kubuntu did not work for me, and this is my main computer
[12:02] <addtru> so I must make it fucntional
[12:02] <BluesKaj> then go ask in #ubuntu
[12:03] <addtru> ubuntu will be just a temporary solution until i figure it out
[12:03] <addtru> it is weird not to find ppoe package
[12:04] <addtru> never happened to me
[12:04] <addtru> until now
[12:04] <BluesKaj> addtru, well network manager should work if you have an ethernet/cable connection to your router/modem
[12:05] <addtru> BluesKaj I do not have a router, just a modem for my fiberlink
[12:06] <addtru> I know that on a router the ethernet is configured automatically
[12:08] <addtru> anyway, thank you very much, BluesKaj
[12:09] <steve-_-1> is the update checker bug known?
[12:09] <BluesKaj> the modem can be configured with network manager and ethernet, I did it a while back before my router arrived , but the modem had an ethernet port , does yours?
[12:09] <BluesKaj> had=has
[12:10] <addtru> yes it has 4 ethernet ports
[12:10] <addtru> must restart, my ubuntu install is now ready.
[12:10] <BluesKaj> so it's also a router
[12:13] <swipe> polaris: thanks
[12:33] <polaris> swipe: did it help?
[12:36] <swipe> polaris: yes, thanks
[12:56] <markslaw> i think i have the wrong video driver, but device manager doesn't seem to want to allow me to change anything. i'm running kubuntu 16. how can I correct this without reinstalling the entire o/s?
[12:58] <BluesKaj> markslaw, run lspci | grep VGA , to find your gpu, for starters
[13:03] <markslaw> that's the thing. it returns something that i'm pretty darned sure isn't installed: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] Cedar [Radeon HD 5000/6000/7350/8350 Series]
[13:04] <markslaw> when I start device manager, it just sits there saying "collecting information about your system" and does nothing. Everything is greyed out except "defaults."
[13:05] <markslaw> how can I get it to actually find what's attached?
[13:05] <BluesKaj> markslaw, so it does stop loading and show a list, but greyed out?
[13:08] <markslaw> nope. just sits there
[13:11] <BluesKaj> markslaw, the Radeon HD 5000/6000/7350/8350 Series is you audio chip...makes no sense if you did lspci | grep VGA in the konsole
[13:12] <BluesKaj> markslaw, pastebin the output of lspci
[13:12] <markslaw> pastebin?
[13:12] <BluesKaj> !paste
[13:18] <markslaw> BluesKah: i'm having a bit of trouble figuring out how to paste a screen shot here.
[13:20] <BluesKaj> markslaw, not here, copy and paste the output from the konsole here, http://paste.kde.org , then copy the resulting url and paste it in here
[13:22] <markslaw> https://paste.kde.org/poooyhebk
[13:24] <BluesKaj> markslaw, ok now the output of lspci
[13:25] <markslaw> https://paste.kde.org/ppvkbnwjb
[13:28] <markslaw> BluesJaj: still there?
[13:37] <KuroTonno> Salve, ho un problema con l'installazione di kubuntu, posso chiedere a voi?
[13:38] <prof7bit> hallo! Ist dieser Bug seit einem halben Jahr falsch einsortiert? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-translations/+bug/1522431 Seit Monaten teste ich 16.04 und es hat geheißen man wäre froh über jegliche Bugmeldungen durch die unerschrockenen Tester, jedoch wurde versäumt mitzuuteilen *WO* man die gefundenen Bugs denn nun  melden soll, der oben genannte Bug wurde anscheinend noch nicht mal gesichtet und einsortiert, wahrscheinlich weil
[13:38] <prof7bit> [24.04.16 15:34] <prof7bit> ich ihn mangels besserem Wissen in irgendeine falsche Ecke gepostet habe in der keiner nachsieht :-(
[13:38] <BluesKaj> markslaw,  open the konsole and do, sudo apt install inxi , then after it's done , run inxi -Fxx, copy and paste that to http://paste.kde.org
[13:38] <prof7bit> [24.04.16 15:35] <prof7bit> seit einem halben Jahr grinst mich jetzt dieser Tippfehler an und ich weiß nicht wem oder wie ich bescheid sagen soll
[13:38] <BluesKaj> !it KuroTonno
[13:38] <KuroTonno> Salve
[13:39] <KuroTonno> BluesKaj:
[13:39] <BluesKaj> !it | KuroTonno
[13:39] <BluesKaj> !de | prof7bit
[13:39] <KuroTonno> Ok, sorry, i've some problem with the installer of kubuntu 16.04, can I ask you for some help?
[13:40] <BluesKaj> KuroTonno, ok, what's your problem?
[13:40] <markslaw> https://paste.kde.org/pglytfx7r
[13:41] <KuroTonno> The instal disk show kubuntu logo for 5 minute and after that it show me a login console, no GUI :-/ what can I do?
[13:42] <prof7bit> ubottu: ok, I will translate: The bug I postet seems to have been put into the wrong category because nobody has even noticed it yet despite it beeing there for months already. They said the early testers of 16.04 should report bugs but it was not told *where* exactly they should be reported. Now I found a bug in the translation and don't know whom I should tell about it or how.
[13:43] <prof7bit> ubottu: hättest mir das vielleicht gleich zu beginn sagen können :-(
[13:44] <KuroTonno> I've try to verify the disk image right now and the disk doesn't have error :-/
[13:46] <BluesKaj> markslaw, sudo modprobe xserver-xorg-video-radeon , if the driver loads there won't be any out put.
[13:47] <markslaw> https://paste.kde.org/p7hg5kebv
[13:47] <BluesKaj> prof7bit, report the bug by clicking on help in dolphin then choose "Report Bug"
[13:48] <KuroTonno> Ok, i will try with the ubuntu italian irc channel, tnx :)
[13:51] <BluesKaj> markslaw, sudo modprobe xserver-xorg-video-ati
[13:52] <markslaw> https://paste.kde.org/pjqx95zvv
[13:53] <BluesKaj> markslaw, use sudo
[13:53] <prof7bit> markslaw: this seems to report bugs against upstream directly, shouldn't users report bugs to their distribution (kubuntu) instead, especially if it is a beta release of the distribution?
[13:55] <BluesKaj> prof7bit, upgrade to 16.04 official release, sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade
[13:55] <markslaw> same result as from a # prompt.
[13:56] <BluesKaj> markslaw, ok sudo apt install xserver-xorg-video-ati
[13:57] <prof7bit> BluesKaj: I am on 16.04 since December already. They said they welcome early testers but unfortunately they failed to tell anybody where to actually report bugs about it :-(
[13:57] <BluesKaj> prof7bit, launchpad
[13:57] <prof7bit> BluesKaj: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-translations/+bug/1522431
[13:58] <markslaw> https://paste.kde.org/p5gskxypw
[13:58] <BluesKaj> or #kubuntu-devel
[13:59] <prof7bit> BluesKaj: is this the wrong category? How do I find the correct category in the myriad of different sections of Launchpad bugtrackers?
[14:00] <BluesKaj> markslaw, no need to be root just use sudo the next time , now sudo apt install xserver-xorg-video-radeon
[14:01] <BluesKaj> prof7bit,  https://bugs.kde.org/
[14:01] <prof7bit> I mean its just a stupid typo in the translation, just two letters, probably fixed within only a fewe seconds, If I only could find a place where I can talk to some german KDE translatersor maybe even ask how to do it myself.
[14:03] <prof7bit> BluesKaj: so does this mean there is no communication from Ubuntu to KDE upstream (anymore?) and I should not file KDE bugs to Ubuntu anymore?
[14:05] <markslaw> blueskaj: got disconnected momentarily. still there?
[14:06] <BluesKaj> prof7bit, Kubuntu is now supported by Blue Systems, the url i posted the place to make sure the bug gets attention
[14:07] <BluesKaj> markslaw, yup, still here
[14:07] <markslaw> so if i'm reading the output of the terminal correctly, I already have the drivers installed. why can
[14:08] <markslaw> 'why can't i switch to the right one in device manager?
[14:09] <markslaw> the monitor has been dropping to black intermittently for a few seconds at a time. this has to be because it doesn't have the right driver loaded, right? how can I switch to the right driver without reinstalling everything again?
[14:09] <BluesKaj> markslaw, the driver manager is bubggy , set up your graphics settings in system settings>display&Monitor>compositor
[14:10] <akik> both driver manager and software center buggy :(
[14:11] <markslaw> okay, what do i change there?
[14:13] <WitherSlick> akik, oh my god it's not just me
[14:13] <WitherSlick> the driver manager wont even load the root permission request
[14:14] <BluesKaj> markslaw, have you upgated and upgraded since your install?
[14:14] <WitherSlick> and just keeps "searching" forever
[14:14] <BluesKaj> updated even
[14:14] <akik> WitherSlick: you can not search anything from the software center?
[14:14] <WitherSlick> let me check
[14:14] <markslaw> http://imgur.com/gallery/JjzFTL9/new
[14:14] <BluesKaj> wit the driver manager is awol
[14:15] <BluesKaj> WitherSlick,^
[14:15] <markslaw> the install was just two days ago, so i'm pretty current
[14:16] <BluesKaj> no matter there may be fixes in repos
[14:16] <WitherSlick> ill try that markslaw, also akiki can't search the software center either
[14:19] <BluesKaj> WitherSlick, akik markslaw , sudo apt update && sudo apt full upgrade ...please
[14:19] <BluesKaj> er full-upgrade
[14:19] <WitherSlick> https://i.sli.mg/bQA3zZ.png same settings markslaw
[14:19] <tytan> Hello, I wanted to install KDE Plasma 5.6 from the official kubuntu backports ppa but apt fails to use it. what's happening there? =O
[14:19] <WitherSlick> ill do that blueskaj
[14:20] <BluesKaj> tytan, 5.6 isn't fully available , there's only one package
[14:20] <tytan> how do you know? ^^
[14:21] <tytan> I don't mean to troll. I just want to learn things =)
[14:21] <BluesKaj> I checked it this norning ,the full 5.6 won't be available for a while tytan
[14:22] <WitherSlick> https://paste.kde.org/p9flvac4i
[14:22] <WitherSlick> done BluesKaj
[14:22] <WitherSlick> nothing updated
[14:22] <BluesKaj> maybe not until 16.10m tytan
[14:22] <tytan> Ok, do you think KDE Plasma will get updated to 5.6 in Kubuntu 16.04 LTS in the future? Maybe in Kubuntu 16.04.1 LTS?
[14:23] <BluesKaj> perhaps , but I haven't heard any reports about it being included in any point releases yet, it's early days
[14:25] <tytan> So if I want constant updates I should check out rolling release distros like arch? ^^
[14:25] <markslaw> mark@mark-desktop:~$ sudo apt update && sudo apt full upgrade
[14:25] <markslaw> [sudo] password for mark:
[14:25] <markslaw> Ign:1 cdrom://Kubuntu 15.10 _Wily Werewolf_ - Release amd64 (20151021) wily InRelease
[14:25] <markslaw> Hit:2 cdrom://Kubuntu 15.10 _Wily Werewolf_ - Release amd64 (20151021) wily Release
[14:25] <markslaw> Hit:4 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial InRelease
[14:26] <BluesKaj> tytan, I won't give advice about other distros
[14:26] <markslaw> mark@mark-desktop:~$ sudo apt update && sudo apt full upgrade
[14:26] <markslaw> [sudo] password for mark:
[14:26] <markslaw> Ign:1 cdrom://Kubuntu 15.10 _Wily Werewolf_ - Release amd64 (20151021) wily InRelease
[14:26] <markslaw> Hit:2 cdrom://Kubuntu 15.10 _Wily Werewolf_ - Release amd64 (20151021) wily Release
[14:26] <markslaw> Hit:4 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial InRelease
[14:26] <markslaw> Hit:5 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-updates InRelease
[14:26] <BluesKaj> MacLeod, sorry , sudo apt full-upgrade , I forgot the dash
[14:27] <BluesKaj> markslaw,^
[14:27] <BluesKaj> !flood |markslaw
[14:31] <markslaw> since everything seems up to date, what do i have to do to get the video driver to change to the correct one?
[14:32] <tytan> Do you know if there is an official page showing the system requirements for Kubuntu 16.04 LTS? I still have a ThinkPad T61 and I'm thinking about installing it on it.
[14:33] <BluesKaj> markslaw, it is installed
[14:34] <markslaw> okay, so why is the screen dropping to black intermittently? if it's not the driver, what could it be?
[14:34] <BluesKaj> markslaw, try removing the xserver-xorg-video-ati driver
[14:34] <markslaw> apt-get remove?
[14:34] <BluesKaj> yes
[14:35] <BluesKaj> with sudo, not root
[14:35] <markslaw> okay, let's give it a shot.
[14:36] <BluesKaj> then you may have to reboot
[14:36] <markslaw> that was the next question. see you on the flip
[14:36] <BluesKaj> ty I have 16.04 on my lenovo G500 laptop, runs great
[14:37] <BluesKaj> ty^
[14:37] <BluesKaj> he's gone
[14:39] <markslaw> i'm back
[14:40] <BluesKaj> so no black screens or drops
[14:40] <markslaw> driver manager still greys everything out and i'm still dipping to black intermittently. this is not good
[14:41] <BluesKaj> ma forget about driver manager for now it's being worked on it's broken
[14:41] <BluesKaj> markslaw,^
[14:41] <markslaw> so it seems.
[14:42] <markslaw> any other thoughts other than another reinstall?
[14:42] <markslaw> or would reinstalling do any good?
[14:43] <BluesKaj> I wonder if the fglrx driver will work with your gpu ..ati. is such a difficult brand to match up drivers
[14:43] <markslaw> how do i get it?
[14:46] <markslaw> you suggested earlier that I tweak the compositor. the screenshot is at http://imgur.com/gallery/JjzFTL9/new. what do i need to tweak there, if anything?
[14:47] <Smurphy> nicofrand: You using a USB disk ???
[14:48] <Smurphy> I don't have issues copying 50Gb image on my external disk. ext4FS.
[14:52] <BluesKaj> markslaw, try the OpenGL3.1
[14:53] <markslaw> okay. do I need to reboot now?
[14:54] <user__> Hi, when I install kubuntu 16.04 , I did not find ZFS file system , why ?
[14:54] <user__> I can't  choose ZFS as file system for root.
[14:55] <soee> uhm
[14:55] <BluesKaj> markslaw, any notice popup after changing to 3.1?
[14:56] <markslaw> not so far. should I reboot, I wonder
[14:56] <BluesKaj> markslaw, no reboot needed
[14:56] <soee> user__: maybe read through https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Reference/ZFS
[14:56] <markslaw> okay. now let's try something, streaming video, which usually caused it
[14:57] <BluesKaj> markslaw, forget the fglrx driver, it's not suitable from what i found on the forums
[14:57] <soee> !zfs
[14:58] <markslaw> so far so good. could it REALLY  have been that simple?!
[14:59] <user__> Is possible install KUbuntu with ZFS as file System for root ?
[14:59] <BluesKaj> markslaw, sometimes it is
[14:59] <soee> BluesKaj: when it comes to OpenGL 3.1 Martin said once that not all animations are supported when using it - just a note from my side
[14:59] <soee> he suggested to use 2.0 :)
[15:00] <soee> user__: i have no idea, if there is not such filesystem in installer
[15:00] <soee> user__: maybe try to ask on #ubuntu
[15:00] <user__> ok , thanks
[15:01] <markslaw> just dropped to black again. not good. any other ideas/
[15:01] <BluesKaj> soee, yeah , but 3.1 is worth trying when the screen drops to black intermittently, not gonna worry about a some animations in that situation
[15:01] <aguitel> dolphin take long time to delete or move files , nautilus do it right
[15:01] <soee> BluesKaj: true
[15:01] <WitherSlick> Any word on getting the Driver Manager to worK?
[15:01] <soee> WitherSlick: there is a bug report on launchapd
[15:02] <WitherSlick> Oh cool
[15:02] <BluesKaj> markslaw, nope, other than checking your monitor connections
[15:02] <soee> shadeslayer: suggested to run some command do debug it, one moment
[15:03] <markslaw> so would another clean install do any good, do you think/
[15:03] <markslaw> or should i revert back to 15.10?
[15:03] <soee> WitherSlick: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-driver-manager/+bug/1530523
[15:03] <BluesKaj> nop point markslaw wait for the debug command that soee is gonna provide for the driver manager
[15:06] <BluesKaj> markslaw, guess not that's about nvidia
[15:06] <BluesKaj> above
[15:07] <markslaw> could it be that the video card itself is dying and that's what's causing the headaches?
[15:07] <soee> markslaw: you ant latets nvidia drivers to be installed ?
[15:08] <soee> *you want
[15:09] <BluesKaj> markslaw, I don't see how the driver manager is going to solve your problem since it lists only available drivers of which you have 2 choices, the radeon or the ati , May removbe the radeom and install the ati , this time
[15:10] <BluesKaj> correction: maybe remove the radeon and install the ati
[15:11] <BluesKaj> it won't hurt to try
[15:13] <WitherSlick> BluesKaj: I run an intel setup, and the driver manager allows me to use propriatary firmware for microcode, which seems to improve my performance
[15:13] <WitherSlick> it worked fine in KDE 15.10
[15:13] <WitherSlick> Kubuntu I mean
[15:13] <WitherSlick> brb
[15:17] <soee> !package amd64-microcode
[15:18] <soee> WitherSlick: got installed: amd64-microcode ?
[15:23] <markslaw> once more with feeling...
[15:24] <markslaw> and we're dipping to dark again.
[15:24] <markslaw> has to be the video card, doesn't it/
[15:27] <soee> markslaw: got installed: amd64-microcode ?
[15:28] <markslaw> don't know. how can i tell?
[15:29] <soee> apt-cache policy amd64-microcode
[15:30] <markslaw> got it
[15:34] <soee> markslaw: installed ?
[15:35] <BluesKaj> don't see how the cpu enhannsement is gonna help, but I could be wrong
[15:35] <BluesKaj> enhancement even
[15:36] <markslaw> it's installed. has been. now what?
[15:37] <markslaw> i keep coming back to the card itself dying. what would the symptoms be?
[15:41] <BluesKaj> markslaw, I had a nvidia card that just quit, there was no inyernittenyt blackouts or anything like that ..btw did you check your pc and monitor conncts...I have to ask
[15:42] <BluesKaj> connects
[15:43] <BluesKaj> i need more light again ...suddenly very dark ....rain clouds
[15:53] <markslaw> BluesKaj: I disconnected and reconnected the monitor this morning, as well as removing and reinstalling the card itself. If it was a connection issue, that should have cleared it.
[15:57] <BluesKaj> ok markslaw have to cover the bases
[16:06] <dbrom> hello all installing a 32 bit version of 14.04 and not able to get flash to run right. meaning that i install the plugin and it still doesnt work
[16:07] <BluesKaj> dbrom, is your pc 32 bit?
[16:08] <akik> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-discover/+bug/1570551
[16:09] <akik> a comment wondering about merging that one week before release
[16:12] <dbrom> yes its 32 bt
[16:16] <dbrom> i installed the flashplugin-installer at this point
[16:17] <BluesKaj> look in you package manager and in stall th freshplayer plugin
[16:17] <BluesKaj> dbrom,^
[16:17] <dbrom> it does appear when i search for it and conanical is enabled
[16:18] <BluesKaj> it should
[16:18] <dbrom> i know it should
[16:18] <dbrom> Thats why I am here
[16:18] <BluesKaj> freshplayer-pepperflash
[16:20] <markslaw> bluekaj: I just opened up the computer and found that I have a radeon 5450 video card. I installed the driver using apt-get. Since this doesn't specify a praticular card, I'm guessing that this is pretty generic.
[16:20] <BluesKaj> it's in the muliverse repos
[16:25] <BluesKaj> markslaw, which driver did you install ?
[16:27] <dbrom> ok, its installed o when I go to run a flash game it says your adobe flash is out of date
[16:29] <nicofrand> Smurphy: no, it's a hard disk inside a Icy Box (with RAID etc., but I don't use it)
[16:29] <markslaw> apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-radeon
[16:29] <markslaw> is there a command for a more specific driver/
[16:33] <BluesKaj> markslaw, finally found the driver recommended for your card, sudo apt install xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu
[16:35] <markslaw> xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu set to manually installed. What does this mean and how do i do it?
[16:40] <BluesKaj> markslaw, remove the ati or radeon, whichever driver you just installed
[16:40] <BluesKaj> or both then install the amdgpu
[16:41] <markslaw> then apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu, right?
[16:41] <BluesKaj> yes
[16:41] <BluesKaj> with sudo
[16:41] <markslaw> reboot after?
[16:41] <BluesKaj> yes
[16:45] <markslaw> okay. just rebooted. let's see how it works now..
[16:47] <BluesKaj> markslaw, that's an older card, but still a a decent one
[16:48] <markslaw> as long as it works..
[16:48] <BluesKaj> yup
[16:50] <markslaw> so if i was right and it was the driver that was mismatched, the glitching should stop. keep your fingers crossed and thanks.
[16:51] <BluesKaj> it was difficult to find the right info for that card , but ti think that's the right one, markslaw
[16:51] <markslaw> we'll know in a few minutes. here's hoping.
[16:55] <dbrom> BluesKaj: I have installed adobe flash but the browser still says that its out of date
[16:58] <BluesKaj> dbrom,  install browser-plugin-freshplayer-pepperflash
[17:03] <markslaw> it's been stable for the last 10 minutes or so, and so i'm a happy camper. of course, now that I type that...
[17:04] <markslaw> thanks again!
[17:04] <BluesKaj> no intermittent X dropouts ?
[17:05] <markslaw> not since i rebooted after installing the driver
[17:05] <BluesKaj> no flickering ?
[17:05] <markslaw> nada
[17:08] <bodom> Hi there! Did somebody already tried 16.04? Did it improve stability?
[17:09] <BluesKaj> improve stability over what?
[17:09] <bodom> BluesKaj: over 15.10
[17:09] <BluesKaj> bodom, it's officially released , all kinds of users have installed it
[17:11] <bodom> BluesKaj: great, my chances of getting some feedback are improving :) Are you one of them?
[17:13] <BluesKaj> it's a new release, expect a few bugs ...don't poll, you have to try it for yourself
[17:15] <bodom> BluesKaj: I am not understanding. Is it considered bad price to ask other user's opinion on a new release?
[17:16] <BluesKaj> bodom , I can't compare i haeb't used 15,10 since 2 weeks after it was released , been using Xenial since then
[17:18] <bodom> BluesKaj: What do you use it for?
[17:19] <BluesKaj> mostly as my media server, irc and surfing
[17:20] <Maxiride> ehya, got a problem with Dolphin and a samba share. It keeps asking me for usr and pwd even if they are correct. Via windows I can access it without problems using the same account credentials.
[17:20] <Maxiride> what's wrong with dolphin then?
[17:20] <bodom> BluesKaj: you are lucky :) For such narrow needs, you are unlikely to experience any problem.
[17:21] <BluesKaj> bodom, I'm a home user ...retired
[17:23] <BluesKaj> Maxiride, make sure the dir that you want to connect to is shared by your user
[17:24] <Maxiride> BluesKaj: yep my user is allowed to access it. Got the administration panel of the NAS (where the samba share live) open now
[17:24] <bodom> BluesKaj: I've been using Kubuntu from 10.10 to 15.04. Then when 15.10 came out, I decided to move away: too many problems. But I am still interested on the project and looking to move back to it, that's why I am asking for other user's feedback once in a while :)
[17:26] <Maxiride> bodom: I've used 15.10 almost since it's release. Indeed there were some bugs but it was usable - for me -. Upgraded to xenial yesterday, everything works fine so far
[17:27] <bodom> Maxiride: thank you for feedback. Did the upgrade keep your setting/preferences?
[17:27] <BluesKaj> bodom, if you are having problems on the job, afaik 16.04 solves a lot of the 15.10 troubles, that's all i can tell you. There some graophics proibs with ati/amd gpus
[17:29] <Maxiride> bodom: yes, all of them. If something has changed I've yet to notice it.
[17:31] <Maxiride> BluesKaj: I could also enable a NFS access, but I've never used it and don't know how to access it via dolphin
[17:31] <Maxiride> if I type nfs://ip it gives me a mount error
[17:31] <Maxiride> Could not mount device.
[17:31] <Maxiride> The reported error was:
[17:31] <Maxiride> Failed to mount /share/1000/Backup_Federico
[17:32] <bodom> Maxiride: that's a good start :) The KDE4->5 upgrade in 15.10 washed everything away. Do you know is there are still unported kde4 appas around? I i can remember correctly kmymoney, k3b, kgpg and many more were still kde4 in 15.10
[17:33] <Maxiride> bodom: can't tell.. I use a base install of kubuntu without the apps
[17:33] <Maxiride> so I don't have any of them installed
[17:33] <Maxiride> actually I don't have cd reader for k3b ^^
[17:33] <equinox_> who know a command to retrieve information from a wavfile, like samplerate, length,... ?
[17:34] <bodom> Maxiride: oh. You are lucky too then :D In my experience, basic/simple installs rarely give troubles :)
[17:34] <BluesKaj> what error message do you receive when trying to connect?
[17:34] <BluesKaj> Maxiride,^
[17:35] <bodom> equinox_: did you try mplayer?
[17:36] <bodom> equinox_: it usually given a lot of info before starting playback
[17:36] <equinox_> no I don't even know it;
[17:36] <Maxiride> BluesKaj:  no one, just the login window pop up again. I'm googling to find where samba logs are kept in the system
[17:36] <equinox_> I don't want a player
[17:36] <equinox_> I need to retrieve information on 68.000 wavfile
[17:37] <bodom> equinox_: if i can remember correctly, it has an option to only give info and do not play
[17:37] <equinox_> using a player will be too long I guess
[17:37] <equinox_> interesting
[17:37] <BluesKaj> equinox_, amarok has plugins for file info
[17:38] <bodom> equinox_: mplayer -vo null -ao null -frames 0 -identify filename.way
[17:39] <Maxiride> BluesKaj:  via terminal I have this error
[17:39] <Maxiride> >sudo smbclient -L 192.168.1.70/Backup_Federico
[17:39] <Maxiride> WARNING: The "syslog" option is deprecated
[17:39] <Maxiride> Enter root's password:
[17:39] <Maxiride> Server does not support EXTENDED_SECURITY  but 'client use spnego = yes and 'client ntlmv2 auth = yes'
[17:39] <Maxiride> session setup failed: NT_STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED
[17:40] <Maxiride> sorry for that, didn't knew that copy\paste automatically send the message in konversation
[17:41] <akik> equinox_: have you tried ffprobe or avprobe?
[17:41] <BluesKaj> Maxiride, try nusing the dolphin network/add network folder option
[17:41] <bodom> Maxiride: it looks like it is a security level incompatibility. I can have the server support better security (better) or have your client accept a lower security level.
[17:42] <bodom> s/I/you/
[17:44] <equinox_> akik, that's exactly what I want ! thank
[17:44] <Maxiride> bodom: I'm at home so I could accept a lower security level
[17:44] <Maxiride> regarding the server accepting an higher security level I wouldn't know where to start to modify it
[17:45] <Maxiride> Using the add network folder option doesn't work as well
[17:46] <BluesKaj> Maxiride,  what error?
[17:46] <Maxiride> "Unable to connect to server.  Please check your settings and try again." using the windows network folder option
[17:46] <Maxiride> I could give a try also to WebDav protocol since I can also enable it on the NAS
[17:46] <akik> Maxiride: i have encrypt passwords = yes in smb.conf and then created the passwords with smbpasswd
[17:46] <bodom> Max so try "client NTLMv2 auth = no" in your smb.conf :)
[17:47] <BluesKaj> so the NAS uses a NTFS file sytem, Maxiride?
[17:48] <Maxiride> BluesKaj: don't think so, it mounts a linux system
[17:49] <bodom> maybe it's a samba3, is it an old NAS?
[17:49] <Maxiride> this is the admin control panel: http://plugout.net/fvdw-sl/home.php
[17:49] <Maxiride> it's a lacie cloudbox with a custom firmware
[17:49] <Maxiride> linked a message ago^
[17:49] <Maxiride> the samba share is the default for every File Share
[17:49] <BluesKaj> Maxiride, then use the secure shell(ssh) option in dolphin add network folder
[17:51] <bodom> I see it's from 2003. It's not unlikely it only supports old NT unsafe auth.
[17:51] <bodom> *2013
[17:54] <Maxiride> the ssh seems to work, but it's still "loading" the remote folder
[17:54] <Maxiride> and by remote I mean the NAS next to me xD no over the internet connection
[17:58] <Maxiride> bodom: by the way I don't have this line ""client NTLMv2 auth = no" in smb.conf
[17:59] <bodom> Maxiride: i know it, that's why i was suggetsing you to try adding it
[18:00] <bodom> :)
[18:04] <Maxiride> thanks eveybody for the support! ;)
[18:07] <akik> i guess you got the samba mount working?
[18:08] <Maxiride> akik: sadly no, and the ssh try keeps loading.. so I'm using the FTP access with works
[18:08] <Maxiride> but I didn't wanted to bother too much
[18:09] <akik> do you have that encrypted passwords in smb.conf ?
[18:09] <Maxiride> nope
[18:09] <akik> i use that and can mount the share from both win8 and ubuntu
[18:09] <Maxiride> should I add the line manually?
[18:10] <akik> only thing to do is run the smbpasswd for each samba user
[18:10] <Maxiride> the smbpasswd command should be ran on the NAS I suppose, which is the host of the samba share. I'm the client with my pc
[18:10] <Maxiride> right?
[18:10] <akik> yes on the samba server
[18:11] <Maxiride> that's an issue because there is no command line option in the firmware
[18:11] <akik> smbpasswd -a username
[18:11] <akik> oh well :)
[18:11] <Maxiride> but I guess it's done automatically when I created my user on the NAS control panel
[18:12] <Maxiride> dinner time here, got to cook something =)
[18:50] <BluesKaj> markslaw, still working ok ?
[19:06] <GreenDay> hello
[19:06] <GreenDay> how can i get rid of kdewallet?
[19:07] <GreenDay> ive removed its package and it still popup
[19:07] <GreenDay> :(
[19:08] <SantiSR> Hola. Acabo de instalar kubuntu 16.04 en mi portatil. Estaba encantado con el 14.04 tambien LTS pero queria probar plasma. Tengo problemas con los refrescos de pantalla. Cada vez que cierro alguna ventana parpadea todo el escritorio. Alguien puede ayudame???  Me sugeris algo??
[19:11] <kubuntu_> Hello there
[19:11] <kubuntu_> I am a Kubuntu newbie
[19:11] <SantiSR> hi.. i am having problems when the windows is doing something with the windows... the refresh of them are not working well... just i have instaled 16.04 of kubuntu
[19:12] <SantiSR> any help???
[19:12] <kubuntu_> To have IRC is a kind of blast from the past
[19:12]  * Ian_C wonders?
[19:13] <Ian_C> Can anyone her me?
[19:13] <Ian_C> *hear
[19:15] <Ian_C> SantiSR: Yeah, I just updated to 16.04 and now my PC won't boot at all.
[19:16] <bodom> lan_C: don't panic, it's a classic :)
[19:17] <Ian_C> It's no panic, just a hassle bodom - I'm running off a usb key atm. I have lvm on my normal drive, just not sure how to get it fixed.
[19:17] <bodom> Ian_C: do you have any error message?
[19:18] <Ian_C> Nope, just a blank screen.
[19:19] <bodom> Ian_C: not even the grub menu? (do you know what grub is?)
[19:19] <Ian_C> I think I just need to reinstall grub but I tried to make  a boot-repair and that also failed. Yeah, I know what grub is!
[19:20] <Ian_C> grub2 these days!
[19:20] <BluesKaj> Ian_C, UEFI boot ?
[19:20] <bodom> Ian_C: if grub does not start, then it's a real problem :\
[19:21] <Ian_C> Hmmm, yeah, UEFI is in the mix although I have all that switched off in the BIOS
[19:21] <Ian_C> I have efi on sda1
[19:22] <Ian_C> Then I have sda2 and sda3 which is the main linux prtition
[19:22] <bodom> Ian_C: you cold start by chrooting into the installed system and trying to reainstall grub
[19:22] <BluesKaj> yeah, but you still have uefi boot partition that needs grub installed to it
[19:22] <Ian_C> I think sda2 is my linux boot partition and sda3 is the lvm partition
[19:23] <Ian_C> When I try chroot I get a /cow error
[19:23] <bodom> Ian_C: "cow"?
[19:23] <Ian_C> Yeah, I know!
[19:23] <Ian_C> Really
[19:24] <Ian_C> I say sudo chroot and it replies with an error saying it can't find /cow
[19:25] <bodom> Ian_C: to correctly chroot, you must first mount the directory structure into a folder, then bind mount sys, dev, proc, and finally chroot. It requires some deeper linux knowledge
[19:25] <Ian_C> I'll find the exact error
[19:25] <Ian_C> Yeah, I did all of that
[19:25] <Ian_C> Wait a bit, I'll show you the messages
[19:26] <Ian_C> .....you wait, time passes
[19:26] <Ian_C> This will take a while!
[19:29] <Ian_C> I started with sudo fdisk -l
[19:30] <Ian_C> Is it OK to just cut and paste the outut?
[19:30] <Ian_C> output
[19:30] <bodom> Ian_C: I do not know the chan rules, but usually it is required to use something like pastebin.com
[19:31] <BluesKaj> !paste | Ian_C
[19:31] <Ian_C> OK
[19:33] <Ian_C> https://paste.kde.org/pepbipev8
[19:34] <Ian_C> There's a whole pile of ram entries in there too but I didn't bother with them - sda is the main thing
[19:34] <Ian_C> sdb is the flash drive that I'm running off atm
[19:35] <Ian_C> Sorry, sdc now - I forgot I have 2 flash drives plugged in
[19:37] <bodom> Ian_C: so you have the EFI partition, the root, and the LVM?
[19:39] <bodom> Ian_C: I am sorry, I do not know grub-EFI enough to help
[19:39] <Ian_C> Yeah, I think so - sda1 is efi, sda2 is boot and sda3 is lvm?
[19:39] <bodom> Ian_C: sda2 is probably root
[19:40] <bodom> Ian_C: oh, wait, 244M.... should be boot
[19:40] <Ian_C> LOL bodom, neither do I! I have all that efi nonsense switched off, as much as it is possible.
[19:41] <bodom> Ian_C: maybe you should try switching it on because it looks like you are using it :P
[19:41] <Ian_C> Noooooooo
[19:41] <Ian_C> That just makes things worse!
[19:41] <Ian_C> I can't avoid having it
[19:42] <Ian_C> But I have legacy support on
[19:42] <bodom> you are using gpt, and, as far as i know, gpt is efi only
[19:42] <Ian_C> Yeah
[19:42] <Ian_C> That's about right
[19:43] <Ian_C> The problem is that I've screwed up grub, but I'm not too sure how to fix it@
[19:43] <Ian_C> I dunno where it should be!
[19:43] <BluesKaj> Ian_C, the only method to work around the uefi /gpt system that MS uses is to wipe the drive and make the partiton table msdos and use legacy bios settings, but I doin't recommend it ...it's only used as a last resiort
[19:44] <bodom> Ian_C: what lvscan says?
[19:44] <Ian_C> That's far too extreme
[19:44] <Ian_C> Never even heard of that, let me try it
[19:46] <BluesKaj> Ian_C, it may be extreme to you but it worked well for me :-)
[19:46] <Ian_C> kubuntu@kubuntu:~$ sudo lvscan
[19:46] <Ian_C>   ACTIVE            '/dev/kubuntu-vg/root' [459.12 GiB] inherit
[19:46] <Ian_C>   ACTIVE            '/dev/kubuntu-vg/swap_1' [5.89 GiB] inherit
[19:47] <bodom> Ian_C: ok, start by mounting /dev/kubuntu-vg/root into /mnt
[19:47] <bodom> Ian_C: then have a look at /mnt/etc/fstab
[19:48] <Ian_C> I'm sure this is just a simple linux kernel/grub issue.... I don't want to loose all my stuff just cos I'm too stupid to pick the simple option!
[19:48] <Ian_C> kk I'll try that....brb
[19:49] <bodom> Ian_C: well, your "stuff" should be there in /dev/kubuntu-vg/root. You can back it up before doing anything else
[19:51] <Ian_C> LOL! Back up?
[19:52] <Ian_C> # <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>
[19:52] <Ian_C> /dev/mapper/kubuntu--vg-root /               ext4    errors=remount-ro 0       1
[19:52] <Ian_C> # /boot was on /dev/sda2 during installation
[19:52] <Ian_C> UUID=91ca732f-34ca-417b-9cea-f59b44226772 /boot           ext2    defaults        0       2
[19:52] <Ian_C> # /boot/efi was on /dev/sda1 during installation
[19:52] <Ian_C> UUID=F977-B773  /boot/efi       vfat    umask=0077      0       1
[19:52] <bodom> Ian_C: it means making a copy of everything and storing it safely :)
[19:53] <Ian_C> Heh heh! It's the bits that I can't back up that I will miss, eg window placement and font sizes.
[19:54] <bodom> Ian_C: ok, so you should reconstruct the structure: mount /dev/sda2 into /mnt/boot and then /dev/sda1 into /mnt/boot/efi
[19:54] <bodom> Ian_C: there "bits" are in /mnt/home/<your_user_name> and you can back them up too
[19:55] <Ian_C> http://paste.ubuntu.com/16039577/
[19:56] <Ian_C> OK, I'll see if I can do all that then, here's hoping!
[19:57] <Ian_C> I need a pen and paper now!
[19:57] <bodom> Ian_C: well, "all of that" is just the beginning :P
[19:58] <Ian_C> To say I have the memory of a goldfish would be insulting to goldfish!
[19:58] <bodom> lol
[19:59] <Ian_C> Yeah, I know, this is obviously just the beginning, if I didn't enjoy it I'd use windows!
[20:04] <Ian_C> Sooooo, once I mount those drives, which I have done, what's next?
[20:04] <bodom> Ian_C: you should have a look in /mnt/boot/efi/grub, and there you should find "something"
[20:05] <Ian_C> LOL! OK, I shall do that!
[20:05] <bodom> Ian_C: sadly, that's where my efi knowledge ends :\
[20:07] <Ian_C> LOL, my knowledge ended far before this point! I seem to have my mount points wrong...
[20:08] <Ian_C> "/mnt/boot/efi/efi/ubuntu$ "
[20:09] <Ian_C> Seems like there are too many efi's in there
[20:11] <Ian_C> I think I picked a bad week to give up smoking!
[20:12] <bodom> Ian_C: mhhh I am not sure if the doube efi is a problem. It is never a bad week to give up smoking :D
[20:15] <BluesKaj> Ian_C, good to hear you gave up the smokes
[20:15] <Ian_C> Well I stopped on or around the 20th of March, I didn't give up, as my brother keeps pointing out! But I really want to be violent right now, I know that there is a simple 1-2-3 to get my poor lappy working properly again. I think it's just a kernel issue.
[20:16] <Ian_C> Scooter, vodka and ecigs will get me through it!
[20:18] <Ian_C>  just need to get grub to look in the right place, I think
[20:18] <Ian_C> I think I may have deleted the wrong kernel actually.
[20:19] <Ian_C> Synaptic deleted it, it was't me guv!
[20:20] <RedStickHam> hello
[20:20] <Ian_C> Hiya RedStickHam
[20:20] <RedStickHam> anyone updgraded 14.04 to 16.04 yet?
[20:21] <Ian_C> LOL
[20:21] <Ian_C> Yep
[20:21] <Ian_C> Don't do it!
[20:21] <RedStickHam> ok
[20:21] <RedStickHam> I haven't done it yet
[20:21] <Ian_C> I have and it's broken my lappy
[20:21] <RedStickHam> I see
[20:22] <RedStickHam> I have only been using Kubuntu for a short time, I use it on my ham radio laptop
[20:22] <Ian_C> If I were you I'd wait a bit
[20:22] <RedStickHam> maybe I will
[20:23] <Ian_C> I love the newest shiniest things but I'm forever reinstalling as a result.
[20:23] <RedStickHam> since I"m new to Kubuntu, do I hae to do a clean install or will the package manager upgrade it?
[20:23] <clivejo> Ian_C: what problems have you had with the upgrade?
[20:23] <Ian_C> My lappy won't boot clivejo
[20:24] <Ian_C> clivejo: I'm running off usb keys atm
[20:25] <clivejo> you removed the kernel via Synaptic?
[20:25] <Ian_C> I don't think so, but it's possible
[20:26] <clivejo> just trying to catch up with the backlog
[20:26] <Ian_C> I fell asleep on my keyboard and when I woke up my screen was blank!
 I think I may have deleted the wrong kernel actually.
[20:26] <clivejo> when you boot what do you see?
[20:27] <Ian_C> A blank screen
[20:27] <Ian_C> I can't even shift for the grub menu
[20:27] <clivejo> from the start, no text flashing by or the boot logo?
[20:27] <BluesKaj> RedStickHam, make sure your package manger is set to upgrade to the next LTS, you can use apt-get to upgrade your existing system to the latest packages first. Then sudo do-release-upgrade in the terminal
[20:27] <Ian_C> And I made a boot-repair usb key and that doesn't work either
[20:28] <Ian_C> Nope
[20:28] <clivejo> any error messages ?
[20:29] <clivejo> as to why it wont repair?
[20:29] <Ian_C> Just a blank screen after the usual bios messages
[20:29] <bodom> Ian_C: so you straight upgrade from 14.04 to 16.04? you are brave :D
[20:30] <Ian_C> boot repair does give a message to do with moving a db
[20:30] <Ian_C> LOL, no, I was on 15
[20:31] <clivejo> what database?
[20:32] <Ian_C> I'm not computer illiterate - I spent 15 years as a cobol programmer, so I know a little bit about computers, but not too much about linux, my computers were much bigger!
[20:33] <BluesKaj> LTS to LTS is usually fairly simple , but with kde4/plasma 4 being replaced with kde/plasma 5.5 , that's a  major change
[20:33] <Ian_C> clivejo: Hmmm, not sure, I'll see if I can find the message
[20:40] <Ian_C> I keep getting a message saying that /cow is not available
[20:41] <Ian_C> failed to get canonical path of `/cow'
[20:42] <Ian_C> That's the one that keeps coming up when I try to sudo chroot sudo update-grub
[20:42] <Ian_C> I used to have a cow but we're divorced now!
[20:42] <Ian_C> BRB
[20:43] <rodolfojcj> hello everybody!
[20:44] <rodolfojcj> do you know how to add a instant messaging account based on the "salut" (people nearby) protocol?
[20:44] <rodolfojcj> I'm using Kubuntu Xenial (just upgraded from Kubuntu 15.10)
[21:03] <Ian_C> Back and still moaning!
[21:03] <RedStickHam> Still trying to figure out how to do the upgrade, have a lot to learn
[21:03] <Ian_C> RedStickHam: Don't do it!
[21:04] <RedStickHam> I'd like to try it
[21:04] <Ian_C> Don't!
[21:04] <RedStickHam> my upgrade manager isn't showing it
[21:04] <Ian_C> It will screw up your system!
[21:05] <Ian_C> I've spent all weekend trying to recover from it and so far I've failed.
[21:05] <RedStickHam> OK
[21:06] <RedStickHam> just strange to me I don't have the option, must be a setting in package management somehwere
[21:06] <Ian_C> I'm hanging around on this channel in the vain hope that someone might be able to help me but so fsr no joy.
[21:07] <RedStickHam> Not new to linux, but new to Kubuntu
[21:07] <Ian_C> RedStickHam: It's probably cos you have your package manager set to only update to stable packages.
[21:08] <RedStickHam> that is possible
[21:08] <Ian_C> I'm bleeding edge!
[21:08] <Ian_C> I fly with no backups cos I'm just crazy!
[21:11] <Ian_C> I'm off to see who I can annoy on undernet, this laptop can wait for another day!
[21:21] <RedStickHam> package manager is set to defaults on installation, maybe that is it
[21:24] <Ian_C> Hello again!
[21:24] <RedStickHam> hi Ian
[21:24] <Ian_C> ** (appstreamcli:10523): CRITICAL **: Error while moving old database out of the way.
[21:24] <Ian_C> AppStream cache update failed.
[21:24] <RedStickHam> still trying to figure out how to get the update
[21:24] <RedStickHam> guess I'm a glutton for punishment
[21:24] <Ian_C> Me too!
[21:25] <RedStickHam> haven't figured it out yet
[21:26] <RedStickHam> what package manager do you use?
[21:27] <Ian_C> Synaptics
[21:27] <Ian_C> But I'm kinda new to kbuntu
[21:29] <Ian_C> I like it when it works!
[21:29] <equinox_> hi everyones !
[21:29] <equinox_> someone has got dropbox installed on its computer ?
[21:29] <Ian_C> I do
[21:30] <equinox_> does it fit well with kde ? I mean about notification , extctera
[21:30] <RedStickHam> I like Synaptic too
[21:30] <RedStickHam> I wonder if it's a repository issue
[21:31] <Ian_C> Yeah, it works pretty well. I wish google woud do a version that works as well as dropbox does.
[21:31] <equinox_> what do u mean Ian_C about google's version ?
[21:31] <Ian_C> My issue is to do with the boot sector or drive, it's a grub thing.
[21:32] <Ian_C> Well google don't do a linux version of their dropbox equivalent.
[21:32] <Ian_C> idrive?
[21:32] <equinox_> mkay
[21:32] <equinox_> I d'ont google equivalent
[21:32] <equinox_> know*
[21:33] <Ian_C> I use gdrive or idrive or whatever google call it
[21:33] <Ian_C> 15GB of free storage
[21:33] <Ian_C> ut they only support satan
[21:34] <equinox_> yeah but everyone knows about the meaning of the word "free"
[21:34]  * ahoneybun loves Google Drive
[21:34] <equinox_> but it's cool
[21:34] <Ian_C> Hmmmm, yeah t it.but if you want to hide something you can always encryp
[21:35] <Ian_C> t it
[21:35] <equinox_> of curse
[21:35] <equinox_> So I'm going to install dropbox right now
[21:35] <equinox_> thank
[21:36] <Ian_C> I quite like dropping words like alquaida and ISIS into my phone calls just for fun.
[21:36] <RedStickHam> lol
[21:36] <ahoneybun> I'm all for whatever works best for the use case
[21:37] <equinox_> we just said that it doesn't
[21:37] <Ian_C> IRA and explosives are also good keywords. I try to use as many keywords as possible just to piss the NSA off.
[21:38] <Ian_C> Dropbox works just fine on linux
[21:38] <Ian_C> It's gdrive that isn't supported.
[21:39] <ahoneybun> there was some CLI tool being worked on
[21:39] <equinox_> damned ! its not in the repo !
[21:40] <equinox_> the official one I mean
[21:40] <Ian_C> Official one of what?
[21:40] <equinox_> ubuntu repository
[21:40] <ahoneybun> gdrive
[21:40] <ahoneybun> not official though
[21:40] <Ian_C> Ah no, google aren't bohering with it as fr as I know
[21:41] <Ian_C> MS or bust!
[21:41] <Ian_C> To be fair you can hardly blame them!
[21:42] <Ian_C> Oh bugger, look at the time, I have to go to bed!
[21:42] <Ian_C> Night night all, have fun
[21:45] <equinox_> I installed dropbox from the .deb they give me on their website but nothing seam to be working when I launch it...
[21:46] <equinox_> on the command line it says no module pygtk installed
[22:43] <d9k_> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-driver-manager/+bug/1530523 I have this bug on 16.04: Driver manager infinitely shows "Collecting information". Updated drivers from cli: `sudo ubuntu-drivers devices`, then `sudo apt-get install nvidia-361`
[22:43] <d9k_> *I had to update drivers from cli
[22:45] <d9k_> Tortoisehg doesn't work on 16.04 for me: segmentation fault (core dumped) immediately after start, no window shown. How to debug?
[22:45] <d9k_> tortoisehg 3.7.3-1
[22:46] <clivejo> !info Tortoisehg xenial
[22:49] <clivejo> did it work in previous version of Kubuntu?
[22:50] <clivejo> It also includes a Gnome/Nautilus extension, but we use dolphin
[22:51] <clivejo> d9k_: ^
[22:52] <d9k_> clivejo, yes, it worked on 14.04
[22:54] <d9k_> I've installed nautilus, there was system notification about reboot needed (maybe not connected with nautilus). I'll reboot and try again
[22:56] <clivejo> I duno what it does, but I installed it on my Xenial and I get a tortoisehg workbench window
[23:05] <coder25> Can anyone tell me what this expression resolves to: I'm trying to register with XFCE community: date -u +%jXfce|sha256sum|sed 's/\W//g'
[23:13] <d9k_> still segfault on thg run.. Can anybody tell how to debug gnome application? Where are error logs located?
[23:17] <yeehi> An Alarm program for KDE? Something that has a countdown / could be used to play sounds in the morning / a timer?
[23:18] <yeehi> KVM VMs do not launch in Kubuntu.
[23:24] <mparillo> I follow these directions (https://www.dropbox.com/install?os=lnx) for the headless CLI install for Dropbox. I am happy with how it works. I used to also install the python scripts, but I no longer bother. It 'just works' for simple use cases (no symlinks, just cp files to $HOME/Dropbox and they sync.
[23:40] <d9k_> Oh, I'm mistaken.. TortoiseHg was written with PyQt. Why did I think it's gnome app...