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Bashing-om!info vlc xenial01:49
ubot5vlc (source: vlc): multimedia player and streamer. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.2.2-5 (xenial), package size 1474 kB, installed size 4586 kB01:50
lotuspsychjegood morning to all05:10
lotuspsychjeohayo gozaimashita cfhowlett05:21
cfhowlettkonichiwa lotuspsychje05:21
lotuspsychje:p05:22
cfhowlettyou on 16.04 yet?05:22
lotuspsychjeyes05:22
lotuspsychjeive helped testing bugs out on daily05:22
cfhowlettsomething for you ... wait 1.  slow internet pipe here05:22
wafflej0ckUpgraded my dev machine yesterday to 16.04 (gnome edition) been really happy with everything, had to do some fiddling with some PHP7 config but really not major road blocks.  Thanks anyone in here who made that so smooth.05:46
lotuspsychjewafflej0ck: glad you like it mate05:47
BluesKajHiyas all10:25
lotuspsychjehi baizon11:54
lotuspsychjehi pauljw11:54
pauljwhey lotuspsychje11:54
BluesKajHi lotuspsychje, pauljw12:34
pauljwhi BluesKaj12:34
lotuspsychjehey BluesKaj12:36
BluesKajdreary weather here, a good day to stay inside and relax :-)12:38
lotuspsychjeyeah rainy grey here aswell12:38
lotuspsychjecoffee + irc makes it all good :p12:39
pauljwlittle chilly here this morning, 44F, but going up to 77F later today12:40
BluesKajyup, on my 3rd cup .. that's my limit12:40
lotuspsychjeim a real coffee addict here :p12:41
lotuspsychje3 cans would fit my needs lol12:41
pauljwmeasure my coffee intake by the pot12:41
lotuspsychjehehe12:41
lotuspsychjeso how you guys drink it? black? milk &suga?12:42
pauljwblack12:42
BluesKajit's cool here too, 5C/41F, only 10C/50F this aft12:42
cfhowlettclearly consuming an inferior brew.  try this:  http://www.funraniumlabs.com/the-black-blood-of-the-earth/12:42
BluesKajmilk and stevia sweetener12:43
lotuspsychjemilk & cane sugar here12:43
lotuspsychjecfhowlett: nice own brew coffee :p12:44
pauljwcfhowlett, that impressive12:45
lotuspsychjeOerHeks: nice seeding, helps community alot12:48
lotuspsychjeOerHeks: wich flavor did you install yourself?12:49
OerHeksNot upgraded yet, i wait untill monday or so12:49
lotuspsychjekk12:49
OerHeksUbuntu-unity ofcourse12:49
lotuspsychje: )12:49
lotuspsychjepauljw: you?12:50
pauljwme, i'm using ubuntu-unity but i'm only running 16.04 in virtualbox for now.  like it so far12:51
lotuspsychjegreat12:51
pauljwspent about 10hrs in the vm yesterday, only issue i had was that the menus disappeared once and had to restart unity to correct12:53
lotuspsychjeyeah we had some users with that issue12:54
pauljwso far so good today... :)12:55
pauljwover all the system seems a bit snappier even while in a vm.12:56
wyoungwerd13:30
lotuspsychjewyoung: unity works good for millions of users13:30
lotuspsychjewyoung: you can only speak of your own system and experience13:30
wyounglotuspsychje: I have had issues with it13:30
lotuspsychjeso dont projects your own experiences to new users13:31
wyounglotuspsychje: mostly with third part apps, keyboard focus and ALT+TAB recognision13:31
lotuspsychjewyoung: ppa's are not supported officially13:31
wyounglotuspsychje: why not? I am not making this shit up13:31
wyounglotuspsychje: it is a fact that is happens13:31
lotuspsychjewyoung: you can only speak of your system13:31
ikoniawyoung: you don't need to sweap please13:31
wyounglotuspsychje: I am not talking about ppas13:31
ikoniaswear13:32
wyounglotuspsychje: I am talking about running java apps for eample13:32
wyoungexample*13:32
wyoungor thunderbird13:32
wyoungikonia: :\13:32
wyoungok13:32
lotuspsychjewyoung: you can file bugs13:32
lotuspsychjewyoung: and test LTS versions13:32
wyounglotuspsychje: plus this isn't with just my own system, I support a number of clients that have reported similar problems13:33
wyounglotuspsychje: I am downloading the latest LTS as we speak13:34
wyounglotuspsychje: my issues was with 14.04 - 15.1013:34
lotuspsychjewyoung: problems are there to solve, this has nothing to do with unity weing terrible13:34
lotuspsychjebeing13:34
wyoungit may not even be with 16.04 but the other releases are still supported atm13:34
wyounglotuspsychje: gnome, kde and xfce doesn't have this issues, so yes, it is unity specific13:34
lotuspsychjewyoung: whos us bugs that proves its unity related13:35
lotuspsychjeshow13:35
wyounglotuspsychje: I will leave that up with ubuntu developers to figure that out13:36
wyounglotuspsychje: the fact is it exists13:36
lotuspsychjewyoung: wich facts?13:36
wyounglotuspsychje: THe fact that it has happend to myself and a number of other people13:36
lotuspsychjewhat happened?13:37
wyounglotuspsychje: I don't have a debugger or console outputting logging this stuff when it happens13:37
wyounglotuspsychje: the issues I noted above13:37
wyounglotuspsychje: and in #ubuntu13:37
lotuspsychjewyoung: if you have an issue, bug it13:37
lotuspsychjewyoung: that doesnt prove unity is bad13:37
wyounglotuspsychje: ? nothing crashes so I don't get the option to13:38
lotuspsychjewyoung: ive been using unity from the ubuntu start, years without issues13:38
wyounglotuspsychje: I also dislike the bug filing process on ubuntu's website / launchpad13:38
wyounglotuspsychje: it asks alot of unneeded questions or questions I cannot answer but are marked as required, so I usually can't get anything filed13:39
lotuspsychjewyoung: if you dont file bugs, nothing gets solved13:39
wyounglotuspsychje: I am notifying you here13:39
wyounglotuspsychje: this is an official channel is it not?13:39
ikoniathis is not how bugs are tracked13:39
ikoniait is your responsibility to log them - and follow them up13:39
ikoniaor engage with others13:39
wyoungikonia: I am enging13:39
wyoungengaging*13:39
ikoniano you're not13:39
wyoungikonia: ---^13:39
ikoniayou're just talking to random people in an IRC channel13:39
wyoungthat are affiliated with ubuntu13:40
wyoungwell, the channel even13:40
ikoniaso ?13:40
ikoniadoesn't mean the right people are here and monitoring13:40
ikoniacome on ubot913:40
wyoungso they are not random13:40
ikonia!bugs | wyoung13:40
ubot5wyoung: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs.13:40
wyoungthey are affiliated13:40
ikoniawyoung: no they are not13:40
ikoniawyoung: I am nothing to do with the ubuntu project - I am here13:40
ikoniaI'm not affilated in anyway13:40
lotuspsychjewyoung: wining about unity is 'terrible' and then rejecting to filing bugs isnt gonna help13:40
ikoniawyoung: have a read of the link about how to report bugs if you're intereted in reporting bugs13:41
DJoneswyoung: Everybody here is exactly like you, just a regular ubuntu user13:41
wyoungikonia: oh, so why do you have the right to tell me I am warned for? if you are not afilkited with ubuntu, being this is an offical ubuntu channel13:41
wyoungikonia: are you just beign a dick?13:42
wyoungbeing*13:42
lotuspsychjewyoung: there are guidelines13:42
lotuspsychjewyoung: no need to become rude here...stay professional13:42
wyounglotuspsychje: so therefore there are people in these channel who moderate and are affilated?13:42
ikoniawyoung: stop with the attitude and language13:43
wyoungikonia: I will13:43
wyoungikonia: I am just getting annoyed13:43
ikonialast warning13:43
wyoungikonia: last warning, so you are affilated?13:43
ikoniaI'm getting annoyed with you and your attitude13:43
ikoniayet I'm not swearing and name calling you13:43
ikoniawyoung: no, I'm not13:43
wyoungikonia: did I call you a name?13:44
wyoungbesides ikonia that is13:44
ikoniaand to be honest, you're trying to pick holes in a weak way, rather than just log a bug to help13:44
wyoungikonia: so how can you warn me?13:44
ikoniawyoung: yes, you asked me if I was being a dick13:44
ikoniawyoung: I'm a channel operator,13:44
ikoniathe guidelines are laid out about how to use the ubuntu channels13:44
ikoniaanyone can warn you13:44
ikoniaanyone is free to guide you and if needed warn you to stay in line with them13:44
ikonia!guidelines | wyoung13:44
ubot5wyoung: The guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines13:44
wyoungikonia: yes, asked, I didn't accuse you of being one, it was a question13:44
ikoniawyoung: you're on thin ice, tone down the attitude and language please13:44
wyoungikonia: what language?13:45
ikoniaswearing13:45
ikoniaasking if people are being a dick13:45
ikoniabe polite13:45
wyoungikonia: I didn't say any profanities between the last time you mentoend I did13:45
ikoniawyoung: read the guidelines before you continue to comment in the channel please13:46
wyoungikonia: I don't consider that a swear word, but ok, i won't use it in the future13:46
ikoniait may save a lot of discussion that isn't needed13:46
wyoungikonia: does the guidlines list the words I cannot use here?13:46
ikonianot an exact list, but you'll get the idea of what is accetpable / not13:46
ikoniaplease have a read13:46
wyoungikonia: if not then how do I know what word is allowed?13:46
wyoungikonia: I have13:46
lotuspsychjewyoung: whats your endgoal with all this?13:47
ikoniagreat, then I won't need to warn you about any more problem behaviour, thank you13:47
wyoungikonia: well, not recently, but the date stamp seems to be around the last time I read it13:47
lotuspsychjewyoung: what in the world are you trying to prove to the ubuntu community now?13:47
wyoungikonia: that is correct, keep that to yourself13:47
wyounglotuspsychje: nothing, just talking to ikonia here atm, I will get to you later13:48
ikoniawyoung: behave in line with the guidelines and there will be no need to remove you from the channels, as there will be no more warnings13:48
wyounghang tight13:48
wyoungikonia: since you are not affilated with ubuntu that is fine, if I am banned by you then you lied to me, and you are unethical and a terrible person13:49
ikoniaplease stop trying to cause a problem - I won't ask again, I am nothing to do with the ubuntu project, I am an operator of some of the community run and managed channels13:49
ikoniadiscuss ubuntu here - join #ubuntu-ops if you want to discuss the policy13:49
lotuspsychjewyoung: before you join the ubuntu channels, you need to know about the guidelines13:49
ikoniabut stop trying to push a pointless discussion13:49
wyoungikonia: grrrrr13:49
wyounglotuspsychje: I know them13:49
ikoniayou've said you read the guidelines - comply with them or you will leave, clear13:49
wyounglotuspsychje: I just do't recognise ikonia as being an enforcer of them13:50
wyoungdon't*13:50
ikoniaignore my warnings then - and you'll be forced to leave, it's that simple13:50
wyoungikonia: so you are affilated13:50
wyoungikonia: you lied13:50
ikoniaplease return to discussing ubuntu topics rather than this petty attempt to win a poitnless agrument13:50
lotuspsychjewyoung: the ops are needed for guys like you misleading users..13:50
wyounglotuspsychje: I wasn't misleading them13:50
lotuspsychjewyoung: saying unity is terrible and they might choose another Os?13:51
wyounglotuspsychje: misleading implies I was lying, I was not, the issues I stated exist13:51
wyounglotuspsychje: no, I didn't say OS, I said windows manager  / version of ubuntu13:51
lotuspsychjewyoung: you cant project your own system issues to others13:51
wyounglotuspsychje: xubuntu is great13:51
lotuspsychjewyoung: all flavors are great13:52
wyounglotuspsychje: as I stated eariler it wasn;t a single system, the issues I had expands over multiple different computers and even differetn people13:52
lotuspsychjewyoung: you cant prove that13:52
wyounglotuspsychje: ubuntu is poor though in comparison to the others13:52
wyounglotuspsychje: you like going around in circles do you?13:52
lotuspsychjewyoung: if the user dont understand well, yes13:53
wyounglotuspsychje: as I have stated, I don't dislike the ubuntu project, just unity.  I am not misleading users by stating that as there are severel issues with it13:53
lotuspsychjewyoung: YOUR issues with unity13:53
lotuspsychjewyoung: you cant say that in #ubuntu to others13:54
wyounglotuspsychje: of course I can13:54
wyounglotuspsychje: as it isn't false13:54
lotuspsychjewyoung: #ubuntu is meant to get your issues solved13:54
lotuspsychjewyoung: not to spread misinformation13:54
ikoniayou can give an opinon that is negative,13:54
ikoniajust be a bit thoughtful about how you give it13:54
wyounglotuspsychje: ffs, it isn't missinformation13:54
wyoungikonia: of course13:55
ikoniaI often say I'm not a fan of unity , but thats only because I don't like it personally (some features)13:55
wyounglotuspsychje: I respect ikonia more than you, even though he isn't affilated with ubuntu but likes to issue warnings13:55
ikoniawyoung: stop messing around,13:55
wyoungikonia: I am discussing13:56
ikoniayou're still flogging a dead horse,13:56
lotuspsychjewyoung: your making it difficult just for yourself13:56
ikoniait's just going to end up with you getting removed and banned13:56
lotuspsychjewyoung: with attitude like this, you wont take long in #ubuntu13:56
ikoniathere is no desire for that13:56
wyounglotuspsychje: with my attitude? yours is very rigidm have fun with that13:57
wyounglotuspsychje: and I have been visiting #ubuntu for many years, I will see you in there for a few more to come13:58
lotuspsychjewyoung: youl make a mistake very soon, we have seen users like you come and go...13:59
wyounglotuspsychje: you have been here for a few years too?13:59
ikoniaguys, maybe we could return to the ubuntu topic ?13:59
wyounglotuspsychje: I am glad we are in different time zones13:59
lotuspsychjewyoung: im using ubuntu since the start13:59
wyoungikonia: yes lets, unity has issues with keyboard focus, how about that/.14:00
ikoniawyoung: I suggest logging a bug14:00
lotuspsychjewyoung: #ubuntu for support issues14:00
OerHeks3 Gb to go .. http://i.imgur.com/WAnG9A4.png14:00
lotuspsychjeOerHeks: nice one mate :p14:00
OerHeksMy provider is cool14:01
lotuspsychjeOerHeks: how much upload speed you got?14:01
ikoniaOerHeks: nice contribution14:01
OerHeks5 mb .. but currently watching ip-tv on a win10 machine too.14:01
wyounglotuspsychje: thnx, I would suggest I channel for you (#stfu) but you won't fit in there14:01
ikoniawyoung: that is not acceptable14:01
ikoniawyoung: STOP with your language14:01
ikoniaand stop being rude to people14:01
wyoungikonia: acronyms are disallowed too/.14:02
ikoniawyoung: yes, - it's clear what you are telling him to do and it is not acceptable14:02
ikoniayou said you have read the rules - this is being rude to someone, so stop now14:02
wyoungikonia: abbreviations and acronyms are not allowed?14:02
ikoniait's not just the words - it's your intetion, stop talking to people like this please14:02
wyoungikonia: no, I am saying it won't fit into specific topic of a channels14:02
wyoungikonia: I wasn't swearing to him at all14:02
wyoungit = he14:03
lotuspsychjeikonia: he's just searching for words that would bypass guidelines14:03
wyoungor at him14:03
ikonialotuspsychje: yes, it's clear what's going on here, and it will end now14:03
wyounglotuspsychje: no, I am just not breaking the guidelines14:03
OerHeksWhy is ubuntu-stufio-amd64 so populair this release?14:03
ikoniawyoung: you are - you are being rude to someone stop it14:03
OerHeksor is it just me, seeding?14:03
wyounglotuspsychje: I am following them14:03
lotuspsychjeOerHeks: perhaps by the new maintainer?14:04
OerHekslotuspsychje, yeah, i read about that14:04
ikoniaOerHeks: I think a lot of the audio stuff was upgraded14:04
ikoniaOerHeks: gives a gew people another oppertunity to maybe use it for audio production,14:04
lotuspsychjecool14:04
wyoungikonia: that is just your opionion / Interpretation though14:04
wyoungikonia: you should rephrase that14:05
wyoungikonia: add some fluff to it14:05
ikoniawyoung: is this how you want it to end ?14:05
ikoniaok - enough now14:05
ikoniathis isn't going to work out for you14:05
wyoungikonia: if you think I am breaking guidlines then I thnk making idol threats is also breaking them14:06
wyoungikonia: so stop making them,14:06
lotuspsychjecfhowlett: OerHeks just asked what makes the new studio xenial so popular? he's seeding torrents14:06
wyounglotuspsychje: what is stuiod xenial?14:07
wyoungstudio*14:07
lotuspsychje!codenames | wyoung14:07
ubot5wyoung: Ubuntu has awesome release codenames. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/DevelopmentCodeNames for more14:07
cfhowlettlotuspsychje, I suspect the US users are like me: LTS only.  so this is like xmas time14:07
wyounglotuspsychje: studio is a codename?14:07
lotuspsychjecfhowlett: audio stuff + lts then?14:07
cfhowlettaudio + visual multimedia production14:08
lotuspsychjecool14:08
wyounglotuspsychje: code name for ubuntu?  what version will be / is studio?  16.04?14:09
wyoungI thought that was xenial14:09
lotuspsychje!studio | wyoung14:09
ubot5wyoung: UbuntuStudio is a collection of packages for the artist who wishes to use Ubuntu as their Digital Audio Workstation. It contains all the best Audio/Visual components from the Ubuntu repositories. For more info and install instructions, join #ubuntustudio or see http://ubuntustudio.org14:09
wyounglotuspsychje: thnx buddy, that makes more sense now14:09
wyounglotuspsychje: does that include gimp?14:09
pauljwman, do i love the ignore list!!14:10
lotuspsychjewyoung: you can download ubuntu studio and find out :p14:10
cfhowlettpauljw, indeed!14:10
wyoungI have had issues with gimp, I open up images and it changes / interrupts colours differently14:10
pauljw:)14:10
wyounglotuspsychje: or I can ask in a disccusion channel/14:10
lotuspsychjewyoung: you didnt read the guidelines?14:11
wyounglotuspsychje: unless you are going to be a ikonia about it14:11
cfhowlettwyoung, dial back the attitude14:11
lotuspsychjewyoung: you think your real smart dont you14:11
wyoungcfhowlett: lotuspsychje is bringing the attitude in here, I am just fling it back to him14:11
cfhowlettwyoung, so very mature14:11
wyoungflinging*14:11
cfhowlettbut the guidelines apply.  even to you.14:12
wyoungcfhowlett: no, I just look up to lotuspsychje as a role model, so I am following his lead14:12
wyoungcfhowlett: I know14:12
ikoniaI suggest you just ignore wyoung for the moment, it will end shortly14:12
wyoungcfhowlett: I am following them14:12
wyounglotuspsychje: nope14:12
wyounglotuspsychje: I think the world of you though14:12
wyounglotuspsychje: whatcha wearing?14:13
cfhowlettOK I think we've seen enough.  release the ban hammer14:13
lotuspsychjewyoung: im wearing a black t-shirty with UNITY IS GREAT!14:14
wyoungcfhowlett: nah I think lotuspsychje and ikonia have learnt their lesson, go easy one them14:14
wyoungone = on14:14
wyounglotuspsychje: and on the front it says "I like contradictions"14:15
* lotuspsychje sit back and enjoys the show14:20
wyounglotuspsychje: can I watch?14:21
OerHeks /msg chanserv op #ubuntu-discuss14:21
OerHeks\/msg chanserv op #ubuntu-discuss14:21
lotuspsychjeOerHeks: your op here?14:22
ikoniahe is now :)14:22
lotuspsychje: )14:22
lotuspsychjeikonia: he's been trolling and misleading all week in #ubuntu14:23
cfhowlettlearn the lesson or be the lesson ...14:24
ikoniaI've just gone through some notes and found him unacceptable14:24
ikoniasorry it took time to sort out14:24
ikoniathank you OerHeks14:24
lotuspsychjeikonia: dont worry, he was walking on the thin red line...14:24
lotuspsychjeikonia: some trolls are harder to catch this way14:25
ikoniamore than enough rope, just needed a little help from OerHeks14:25
pauljw:)14:25
lotuspsychje:p14:25
ikoniawhich he delivered great14:25
lotuspsychjedtgr: welcome, how can we help you?14:27
ikonialotuspsychje: wrong channel ;)14:28
lotuspsychjeikonia: could be our friend re-visiting :p14:28
lotuspsychjethey usually do after a fresh ban14:28
dtgrjust checking out IRC, anything special on this chan or smth?14:28
pauljwnah, he couldn't keep his mouth shut this long14:28
ikoniaas long as he doesn't behave like he was before, he's welcome to a new identity14:29
lotuspsychjedtgr: this is the ubuntu discussing channel, how did you find us?14:29
dtgrsomeone just linked from #ubuntu14:29
pauljwdtgr, are you new to ubuntu/linux and irc?14:30
lotuspsychjelol14:32
lotuspsychjehey TJ-14:38
TJ-afternoon :)14:39
lotuspsychjebbl guys pancake time :p14:42
pauljwmmm... pancakes....14:43
BluesKajI found the memory leak , it was the origin adblocker15:13
pauljw:)15:14
BluesKajguess I'll just put up with the ads for now15:17
pauljworigin didn't work well for me, don't remember what it did, but i switched to Bluhell Firewall and it works nicely15:18
OerHeksDoesn't that adblocker create a lot of traffic?15:19
* OerHeks uses adguard-adblocker15:19
TJ-BluesKaj: have you tried using "umatrix" - I've found that the best solution. it does the job of noscript,adblock,noflash and everything else and is really easy to work with and understand15:20
TJ-some overview here (it's in the addons.mozilla.org and so on) https://github.com/gorhill/httpswitchboard/wiki/How-to-use-HTTP-Switchboard:-Two-opposing-views15:21
BluesKajTJ-, thanks ...looking15:23
TJ-I love it, so slick compared to all the others, which feel klunky in comparision. click the icon, it shows the switchboard, generally allows of 1st-origin access but blocks 3rd party by default. Shows pink/red for blocked.. click in the top 1/2 of a square and it changes to green which means 'allowed' Click the 'refresh' icon and the page reloads. click the padlock icon to remember those settings15:24
TJ-permanently15:24
TJ-click the top 1/2 of a hostname in the left column and all that domain's common facilities are enabled... etc15:29
BluesKajtj easy for you difficult for me ...I don't see a sitchboard , only an example15:31
BluesKajsweems it's meant mostly for chromium , my default is FF15:33
BluesKajthink I'll stick with Bluhell15:33
TJ-BluesKaj: when its installed there's its icon on the taskbar top of the browser. click it and the switchboard shows where you cna control everything with a few clicks15:37
pauljwbiab15:39
TJ-here's a screenshot of the switchboard opened on the BBC news site: http://iam.tj/projects/misc/umatrix.jpg15:48
ikoniaTJ-: how did you generate that16:17
TJ-what?16:18
ikoniathat umatrix window16:18
ikonia(sorry - I'm missing part of the chat on this it would seem)16:18
TJ-the image? just used the snapshot tool to capture an area16:18
ikoniasorry, I mean how did that information get generated16:18
TJ-in the umatrix switchboard? that's what umatrix extensio does, it control access to all the resources on a page. that's its control panel16:19
ikoniathat looks very useful, I've never heard of it before16:19
TJ-It's much faster and more flexible that things like adblock, ublock origin, noscript et al16:20
TJ-same here... I got a tip about it on Hacker News in a discussion last year about AdBlocker16:20
TJ-It's one of those tools that genuinely has a 'wow' factor and it doesn't get in the way, it makes it easy to reason and control access at a glance, temporarily, or permanently16:21
OerHeksjay, 100 Gb+ >> http://i.imgur.com/vDXDo7N.png16:44
lotuspsychjehey Bashing-om17:47
Bashing-omlotuspsychje: Quiet Sunday ? Going well .17:47
lotuspsychjepretty active support today :p17:47
Bashing-omYeah .. been on a bit .. and has been steady .17:48
lotuspsychjebbl guys movietime :p17:56
lotuspsychjehave a nice evening17:57
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Bashing-omikonia: I admire your patience .. see if hep7 ever gets help form me .20:10
OerHekswyoung was the little brother of hep720:18
daftykinsare you guys starting a fan club? :>20:25
OerHeksfan club ..20:28
daftykinsthere could be a volunteers hall of fame20:32
OerHeksIn the dutch community, we had a ubuntero-of-the-month .. but that stopped when there was nobody left but me20:39
OerHeks:-D20:39
OerHeks( to choose from)20:39
OerHekshttp://wiki.ubuntu-nl.org/community/webteam/UbunterosVanDeMaand20:40
daftykins:D20:48
* OerHeks silly20:48

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