[04:17] <horse2950> Hello
[07:39] <mike00> hi, someone knows which features must have an image to put it like the cover of a song?
[07:39] <mike00> in the music app?
[08:05] <Veenit> hi
[08:06] <Veenit> is anyone around ?
[08:06] <mike00> yes
[08:06] <Veenit> hi, I just want to know, can we install latest ubuntu mobile OS on Nexus 7 ?
[08:09] <lotuspsychje> Veenit: check the install wiki in topic
[08:11] <lotuspsychje> Veenit: choose a channel you want for your nexus7 and then you will be able to get latest OTA-10.1
[11:17] <esra> hi all. is it possible to change the user agent of the browser without making a webapp?
[11:41] <New_> Hello, I have problem with origin, when I rotate with PhysicsEntity the  transformOrigin is not  "Center" but different, where I need set transformOrigin: ship.Center?
[12:07] <New_> I got it.
[14:08] <New_> Hello, do sombody know How to use ship.body.applyForce(Qt.point....  for follow direction of object?
[14:21] <taruti> Is there documentation somewhere what components of the aquaris m10 work A) with vanilla kernels, B) with out-of-tree-patches, C) require binary blobs, D) how closed the device in general is? (is e.g. the bootloader locked?)
[14:22] <adfad666> is there a problem building on 16.04 or a problem with recent ubuntu downloaded images? my ROMs are not booting correctly, the display does not come on, last time I built was on 15.10 a few weeks ago
[14:22] <jlkon13> Hello, I just realized that the boot.img file in the out directory is not the bootimage from android. Does ubuntu touch need two boot partitions (one for android boot and one for ubuntu boot)? if yes, how do i have to name those?
[15:14] <SylvieLorxu> I remember someone here talking about a physical dvorak keyboard for the Aquaris M10 Ubuntu Edition. Does anyone know what that could be and what I should pay attention to when buying a keyboard for the device?
[15:46] <Walex> SylvieLorxu: any Bluetooth?
[15:46] <SylvieLorxu> Walex: How do you mean that?
[15:48] <PaulfraOSAA> Has anyone (of you) gotten their ubuntu tablet to show up in devices?
[15:50] <PaulfraOSAA> Well I just did :)
[15:51] <SylvieLorxu> Is there any way to get the source code of an Open Source app in the store?
[15:51] <SylvieLorxu> Or do users upload binaries?
[15:51] <SylvieLorxu> s/users/developers/
[15:52] <PaulfraOSAA> SylvieLorxu: I think you need to figure out where (github/gitlab/sourceforge/bazaar/etc...) they have their code for each and every one
[15:53] <SylvieLorxu> PaulfraOSAA: Okay, so I'm out of luck for "Open Source" apps without a link (which may very well be scammy apps)
[15:53] <SylvieLorxu> I did notice that the checks on the store are really bad
[15:54] <SylvieLorxu> I've already seen several "Open Source" projects that are just a proprietary web game wrapped in some web shell
[15:54] <PaulfraOSAA> SylvieLorxu: Well, if it is open source you could always write the guy that uploaded it and get the source code from there...
[15:55] <SylvieLorxu> Technically, although frankly, it's really unlikely to be the case :P
[15:56] <SylvieLorxu> On that note, how are users supposed to report bad apps?
[15:56] <SylvieLorxu> Malware, incorrect license, whatever?
[15:57] <SylvieLorxu> There doesn't seem to be a button in the store app for that
[16:08] <Walex> SylvieLorxu: The obvious way to use a keyboard with Ubuntu Touch devices is to get a Bluetooth keyboard.
[16:09] <Walex> SylvieLorxu: the "Open Source" apps ought all to be in the standard Ubuntu repositories.
[16:23] <SylvieLorxu> Walex: Well, yes, I understand that. Still, there seem to be a lot of such devices and they're all fairly expensive
[16:24] <SylvieLorxu> Walex: That still doesn't tell me how to access the source code :P
[17:28] <kwah> hello, is there anybody out there?
[17:28] <lotuspsychje> !ask | kwah
[17:29] <kwah> question: how one can switch keyboard layout of M10 tablet in desktop mode, when physical keyboard is attached?
[17:31] <kwah> lotuspsychje: thanks for reminder. washed out of my mind. rarely use irc.
[17:32] <lotuspsychje> kwah: no sweat mate, best to idle a longer time in this channel due to timezones
[17:33] <lotuspsychje> kwah: and re-ask your issue once in a while
[17:33] <kwah> lotuspsychje: thanks, noted.
[17:34] <lotuspsychje> kwah: another option is place your question to askubuntu
[18:09] <PaulfraOSAA> kwah, was Idling, when you have your keyboard connected you can change the language setting in Settings->Language & Text-> external keyboard
[18:10] <kwah> PaulfraOSAA: yep, that one I've found out. But... How to change actual layout from keyboard?
[18:10] <kwah> There are no settings related to it.
[18:11] <kwah> Tried obvious: Alt+Shift, Ctrl+Shift, Ctrl+Space. Did not work.
[18:13] <PaulfraOSAA> Yeah, I couldn't find that one either. Actually I couldn't get the setting to stick at all, The top one was the only one to stay in settings next time I got in there
[18:13] <kwah> Hm, have not checked yet...
[18:15] <kwah> PaulfraOSAA: both added layouts are still there, but what is the point of having them, if you cannot switch from one to another?
[18:33] <PaulfraOSAA> Well, at least you can change it now. Googling i found that that is a recent feature, maybe it will come some day...
[18:33] <PaulfraOSAA> kwah: Also any "dead" keys and AltGr keys won't work
[18:35] <kwah> PaulfraOSAA: what can you change? The only thing I can change is settings. Cannot change keystrokes keyboard sends to system. It is still English.
[18:37] <PaulfraOSAA> kwah: When I change my keyboard to Danish dvorak I can use it to type danish dvorak, however all the AltGr buttons are missing (just a right alt)
[18:38] <kwah> PaulfraOSAA: can you be more specific on how you "change...keyboard to Danish"?
[18:40] <PaulfraOSAA> I do it by selecting Danish (dvorak) from Settings->Language & text->External keyboard->Layouts and other sources->All layouts available, check the checkbox at the right hand side and disable all other layouts ( or just move them down )
[18:41] <kwah> That is hideous. If I move Russian layout to top, keyboard indeed starts to use it.
[18:42] <kwah> Wow. That's the trick.
[18:43] <kwah> PaulfraOSAA: OK, it is kinda working. But it is unusable in reality.
[18:45] <PaulfraOSAA> kwah: How's that unusable? It's not optimal, but most ppl still just use one keyboard layout. Agreed it would be better if it was possible to switch using either a keyboard shortcut or a setting in the sidebar, but it is usable for now
[18:47] <kwah> PaulfraOSAA: it is unusable even in communication. I type to you in English, while at the same time I am communicating with my spouse in Russian. Switching keyboard layout with a key-combo is a must for me.
[18:48] <PaulfraOSAA> kwah: You should devote more attention to your spouse instead of writing to me then ;P
[18:51] <kwah> PaulfraOSAA: common, that was just an example, and she is now back to Russia, while I am not ;) Anyway, even speaking about ubuntu issues on #ubuntu-ru would be problematic. Like you give an instruction in Russian, and type next to it commands to execute in terminal.
[18:52] <kwah> Be my guest to try this out on tablet and share your experience :D
[18:53] <PaulfraOSAA> My russian is not that good ;) But I see what you mean. It's pretty unusable for me too, since there is no way to type in { } or[], That makes it really hard to program!
[18:56] <kwah> I suspect that Danish has Latin-based alphabet, right?
[18:57] <kwah> For alphabets that are not Latin, this is a show-stopper.
[18:58] <kwah> Although, we are used to it, and every computer-savvy person with some Internet exposure can read/write so called "tanslit" :D
[18:59] <kwah> PaulfraOSAA: is there already a bug related to this?
[19:19] <kwah> Anyway, went ahead and submitted bug 1574365
[19:26] <JanC> this is actually a very good question: http://askubuntu.com/questions/761818/how-do-i-change-the-hostname-on-ubuntu-touch
[19:35] <popey> JanC: indeed!
[19:36] <popey> we should have a bug to track that
[19:38] <JanC> I was just looking over the system settings if there was maybe something new but didn't see anything
[19:40] <popey> I was looking for a bug for it but can't find one
[19:40] <popey> will file it.
[19:42] <JanC> something else: it would also be nice if screen lock & screen saver weren't forcibly combined... having to typing in a passcode/password all the time is annoying  :)
[19:42] <kwah> And address bug 1574365 please ;)
[19:44] <popey> What do ios / android people do?
[19:44] <popey> ios devices have a hostname of "John's iPhone" if I recall?
[19:44] <JanC> hostnames with a space in them?
[19:45] <popey> https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1574370
[19:45] <kwah> android has some strange android-xy68jna mumbo-jumbo. at least that is what I see in the router
[19:46] <JanC> maybe they use bonjour or something to broadcast that nice "John's iPhone"?
[19:46] <popey> probably
[19:46]  * popey looks at his router
[19:46] <popey> "Alan-Popes-iPad"
[19:46] <popey> there you go :)
[19:47] <popey> and "android-955f9c624aa629f"
[19:47] <popey> when it gets too long they just strip letters out .. "ClarePoesiPhone"
[19:48] <JanC> would be nice if you could set it manually though (what if you have multiple iPads?)
[19:49] <melvster> does ubuntu touch use snappy?
[19:50] <JanC> I guess Android uses some unique string based on (a combination of) serial number, MAC address, IMEI, etc.
[20:17] <mr_rcollins> JanC, under iOS go to Settings -> General -> About and you can set the name of the iOS device.
[20:17] <JanC> popey: ^^^
[20:19] <grasstype> hello. Does anyone know of a way to install development libraries on the M10? I was hoping to use it at work to learn c++ etc
[20:19] <mr_rcollins> How is anyone charging their M10 tablet? My 10W iPad charger provides enough power, but it doesn't charge the tablet.
[20:20] <SylvieLorxu> mr_rcollins: I use the provided charger :P
[20:20] <mr_rcollins> grasstype, for commandline stuff use chroot.
[20:20] <grasstype> mr_rcollins, I just use it with whatever my phone charger is. Takes a long time though
[20:20] <grasstype> mr_rcollins, ooo, chroot. Now I gotta figure out how to use that
[20:20] <mr_rcollins> The iPad charger actually discharged the tablet.
[20:20] <JanC> why not use the default charger?
[20:21] <mr_rcollins> The charger that came with it looks like I could use it as a taser, but it's not going to work for me. (European charger, I'm in the US)
[20:21] <grasstype> JanC, I don't know about him, but I live in america. Included charger doesn't fit in plug
[20:21] <JanC> well, any USB3-compatible charger really?
[20:21] <grasstype> USB2.0 does work, just takes like 12 hours or so
[20:22] <mr_rcollins> I grabbed a 6 port USB charger, and it is working. Let me try my Asus charger from my Nexus 7.
[20:22] <SylvieLorxu> Hmm, Bq really should've thought of that
[20:22] <SylvieLorxu> Have you tried mailing Bq support, see if they have a suggestion?
[20:22] <JanC> my bq phone charges with both the supplied one & a cheap Chinese no-brand one
[20:22] <SylvieLorxu> Seems fair to mail them seeing how they messed up giving American a proper charger :P
[20:23] <mr_rcollins> I wonder if the iPad charger just doesn't like the M10.
[20:23] <kwah> Maybe he has not disclosed his whereabouts :D
[20:23] <grasstype> at least the charger is USB, so it's something we can work around. I'd rather have the tablet with a workaround than none at all
[20:23] <mr_rcollins> True.
[20:24] <grasstype> Hell, I've actually postponed getting a new phone for like a year and a half waiting for something
[20:24] <JanC> if it's made by Apple, they probably lock out fast charging for other devices or something  :P
[20:24] <mr_rcollins> The charger that ships with the table should work in the US, I just need an adapter.
[20:25] <mr_rcollins> s/table/tablet/
[20:25] <JanC> if you have 240V
[20:25] <mr_rcollins> It says 100-240.
[20:26] <kwah> grasstype: too bad Radioshack went bankrupt. They had adapters.
[20:27] <kwah> Maybe other similar place too look for one? When I visited US some time ago, they were pretty affordable, few bucks a piece.
[20:27] <JanC> mr_rcollins: hm, just checked and my phone charger says that too, even though those plugs are only ever used with 220-240V
[20:27] <grasstype> I wonder why american went with 120 volt anyways
[20:28] <grasstype> seems weird
[20:28] <JanC> it used to be 110-120V here too, long ago  :P
[20:28] <JanC> at least in some places
[20:28] <kwah> 120 - you are too optimistic. I think it even worse, like 110.
[20:28] <grasstype> oh right, 110 sounds right
[20:29] <grasstype> numbers all blur together
[20:29] <mr_rcollins> I knew at one time why america was 120/60 and Europe was 240/50, but I can't remember...
[20:30] <grasstype> wikipedia might know
[20:30] <JanC> when I was a kid it was 220V, which has slowly been going up to 240V
[20:31] <JanC> still 50Hz
[20:31] <grasstype> it's funny how that is actually holding back some advancement in america. Electric cars are basically crying at 110
[20:32] <JanC> I think most car chargers here are at 360V actually  :)
[20:33] <grasstype> so... following the ubuntu community chroot directions isn't working
[20:33] <mr_rcollins> Looks like 110v in America was related to Edison's choice of 110 for his DC system.
[20:33] <grasstype> apr-get doesn't work, mkdir doesn't work because read-only filesystem
[20:33] <JanC> same you would use for your electric kitchen stove or an electric welding device
[20:34] <mr_rcollins> grasstype, install the terminal app (which I assume you are already in), and then download the image for chroot. Let me see if I can find the directions I used.
[20:36] <grasstype> ah,used mkdir chroot in ~/Documents, that worked
[20:36] <grasstype> ignored the directions to sudo apt-get schroot and debootstrap, not sure if I'll actually need those
[20:37] <grasstype> but yeah, I'm in terminal
[20:38] <mr_rcollins> Yeah, I downloaded the vivid chroot, did some mounts, and then did the chroot.
[20:38] <mr_rcollins> But I can't find the directions I followed.
[20:38] <grasstype> download the chroot image from where?
[20:38] <mr_rcollins> Oh, and to make it just slightly more difficult, I did it on an SD card so I could wipe the tablet if I need to.
[20:39] <mr_rcollins> Here it is: http://askubuntu.com/questions/620740/recommended-way-to-install-regularcli-deb-packages-on-ubuntu-phone/622047
[20:39] <mr_rcollins> Use the first answer.
[20:39] <grasstype> wow, copy paste without a mouse is interesting
[20:41] <mr_rcollins> Outside of the chroot I had to do a "mount -t devpts devpts /home/phablet/PATH/TO/CHROOT/dev/pts" so that tmux would work.
[20:41] <grasstype> and... will I guess I can type it manually
[20:41] <mr_rcollins> Tap and hold?
[20:41] <grasstype> doesn't work
[20:42] <grasstype> I can highlight it with some care, but ctrl+c doesn't seem to copy it
[20:42] <mr_rcollins> shift-control c
[20:42] <mr_rcollins> Oh wait, which browser? Browser or Firefox?
[20:42] <grasstype> and to paste it? browser
[20:42] <grasstype> firefox is really ugly and seems to crash on me
[20:43] <mr_rcollins> Paste it should be shift-control v
[20:43] <grasstype> that just gives me a big V
[20:44] <grasstype> ctrl v does paste something, but it's still not what I highlighted from xchat
[20:44] <grasstype> lol, this is amazing
[20:45] <mr_rcollins> Oh, yeah, I think X11 apps and Mir apps have different keyboards.
[20:45] <grasstype> haha
[20:46] <grasstype> so maybe if I used firefox
[20:47] <grasstype> nope, still doen't work
[20:47] <kwah> interesting. shutting down M10, disconnecting keyboard/mouse, and powering it up again gets system loaded into desktop mode. Bug?
[20:48] <grasstype> kwah, does yours convert automatically? I just convert mine from desktop to tablet mode manually
[20:48] <grasstype> with system menu in upper right
[20:49] <kwah> grasstype: it goes automagically from to desktop mode upon connection of keyboard. and back upon disconnect.
[20:50] <kwah> at least
[20:50] <grasstype> mine doesn't
[20:52] <kwah> I use logitech kb+mouse combo with unified receiver connected to USB OTG adapter. seems to work for this arrangement.
[20:55] <grasstype> alright, well I got a lead. Looks like it might require some time, caffiene, and attachmenet to my desktop. Thanks for the help guys!
[20:57] <mr_rcollins> grasstype, crap, I meant clipboards, X11 and mir apps have different clipboards.
[20:59] <mr_rcollins> The Asus charger is working great with the tablet. Maybe 25% an hour?
[21:40] <dobey> mariogrip: ok, thanks