[06:43] <mazal> Mornings
[06:43] <mazal> https://utappia.org/2016/04/22/how-to-search-install-remove-snap-packages-in-ubuntu/
[06:45] <mazal> But it doesn't work on Kubuntu though
[07:14] <pavlushka> hello every one!
[07:17] <pavlushka> is it working, I am from tty1
[07:18] <pavlushka> Hi mazal!
[07:26] <pavlushka> Hello inetpro !
[07:26] <pavlushka> Hello theblazehen !
[09:27] <Kilos> morning all
[10:52] <Langjan> Kilos, hi broer
[10:53] <Langjan> hi guys
[11:11] <Kilos> hi Langjan 
[11:11] <Kilos> ek moet gaan eet 
[11:11] <Kilos> sal nou nou terug wees
[11:11] <Langjan> gaaf ek ook
[11:53] <Kilos> Langjan im back
[11:53] <Kilos> had to pump water too
[11:57] <Kilos> what did you brewak today
[11:57] <Kilos> break
[12:03] <Kilos> sjoe julle groot mense eet baie ne
[12:04] <Kilos> oh btw beautiful deeks
[12:27] <nlsthzn> o/
[12:34] <Kilos> hi nlsthzn 
[12:34] <Kilos> wb
[12:34] <nlsthzn> uncle Kilos , all well (oh and thanks)
[12:34] <nlsthzn> ?
[12:34] <Kilos> yes all fine here ty and there
[12:35] <nlsthzn> yup, all good thanks
[12:44] <Kilos> wbb
[13:24] <Kilos> Langjan you still here
[13:25] <Kilos> ive done a couple od drive changes look for 1 pic
[13:25] <Langjan> Hi Kilos yes sorry we had lunch then flaked out, Juanita is not well.
[13:25] <Kilos> tablets dont to well when swimming in the bath
[13:25] <Kilos> oh my sorry to hear that
[13:26] <Kilos> go sleep sir
[13:26] <Langjan> No were fine thks, had a good forty winks
[13:26] <Langjan> Susan very happy with her installation
[13:26] <Kilos> lovely pics of deeks ty
[13:26] <Kilos> im glad
[13:27] <Langjan> Yes nostalgic though, thks 
[13:27] <Langjan> were good times
[13:27] <Kilos> did you install gufw for her
[13:27] <Langjan> gufw?
[13:27] <Kilos> i souped the 1000s station wagon
[13:27] <Kilos> used to smoke tires and fly robot to robot
[13:28] <Langjan> ok, nice, what did you do?
[13:28] <Kilos> lifted some ports and lowered others i think
[13:28] <Langjan> Mine smoked tyres in 1st, 2nd and 3rd 
[13:28] <Kilos> forget all the 2 stoke stuff
[13:29] <Langjan> I'll never forget
[13:29] <Kilos> wonderful cars but no good with todays fuel prices
[13:29] <Langjan> There was a goy named Bokkie in Pretoria who raced a bit
[13:29] <Langjan> guy
[13:30] <Langjan> and Johny Nel?
[13:30] <Kilos> you know where the 3-6 came from
[13:31] <Langjan> three cyliners firing double-time
[13:31] <Kilos> 3 cylinder that performed better than a 6
[13:31] <Kilos> i dont think mine did 10 mpg
[13:31] <Kilos> used to eat juice
[13:32] <Kilos> long ago in hidden memories
[13:32] <Langjan> No, mine did 23 mpg going flat-out running at 100mph-plus
[13:33] <Kilos> i boutht a valiant barracuda after that that was more economical
[13:33] <Langjan> It did chew juice whebn I used the dcoe 45 weber
[13:33] <Kilos> oh ya
[13:33] <Kilos> i member webber carb too
[13:33] <Kilos> weber
[13:33] <Kilos> had great fun
[13:34] <Kilos> and pancake air filter
[13:34] <Langjan> but when I used to cruise at a reasoable 80 mph it gave 30 mpg 
[13:34] <Kilos> wow
[13:34] <Kilos> no mine drank like a camel
[13:34] <Langjan> built a full-circle crank to boost crankcase pressure
[13:35] <Kilos> i bought onde
[13:35] <Kilos> one
[13:35] <Kilos> from galguts i think
[13:35] <Kilos> they imported lots of deek stuff
[13:35] <Langjan> full circle? Interesting, did not know they were available
[13:36] <Langjan> in SA
[13:36] <Kilos> might have had another name i dont remember
[13:36] <Kilos> imported from germany
[13:36] <Kilos> galguts was in pta
[13:37] <Langjan> My dream was to mount carb on crankcase and fit reed valves, but to complicated 
[13:37] <Kilos> hahaha yeah when bikes started using them i gave up
[13:37] <Kilos> used to love tuning bikes as well
[13:37] <Kilos> delorto carbs
[13:38] <Langjan> two-stroke bikes I presume?
[13:38] <Kilos> float hung on a rubber pipe so it could stay level when cornering
[13:38] <Kilos> yes
[13:38] <Langjan> My pal had a set of three amals, worked like a dream 
[13:38] <Kilos> i raced kreidler
[13:38] <Langjan> dont know bikes
[13:38] <Kilos> whew that spelling looks wrong
[13:38] <Langjan> which one?
[13:39] <Kilos> kreidler
[13:39] <Langjan> kriedler?
[13:39] <Kilos> german racing 50 cc
[13:39] <Kilos> lemme google
[13:39] <Langjan> what is gufw?
[13:40] <Kilos> graphic firewall to stop all incoming
[13:40] <Kilos> keeps baddies out
[13:41] <Langjan> never heard of it
[13:41] <Kilos> look in synaptic
[13:43] <Kilos> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/50_cc_Grand_Prix_motorcycle_racing
[13:46] <Langjan> sorry system froze solid when I tried to open synaptic
[13:46] <Kilos> oh my
[13:46] <Langjan> gufw installing now, will check it out
[13:46] <Kilos> very simple
[13:47] <Kilos> you just open it and turn it on
[13:47] <Kilos> only allows outgoing
[13:47] <Langjan> then what does it break?
[13:47] <Kilos> you can also set what you want to allow in
[13:47] <Kilos> dunno mine works fie
[13:48] <Kilos> fine
[13:48] <Langjan> fee fie foe fum
[13:48] <Langjan> remember where that comes from?
[13:49] <Kilos> ek ruik n englsman
[13:49] <Langjan> Ja, Jan en die boontjierank
[13:49] <Kilos> lol
[13:50] <Kilos> be he alive or be he dead ill grind his bones to make my bread
[13:52] <Langjan> so if I turn this on what will it stop?
[13:52] <Kilos> others from getting onto your pc
[13:52] <Langjan> you mean via internet?
[13:53] <Kilos> i remember i had to turn it off to do some networking stuff
[13:53] <Kilos> yes
[13:53] <Langjan> can they get on now?
[13:53] <Kilos> hackers can get in anywhere
[13:53] <Kilos> good ones that is
[13:53] <Langjan> What about my existing network?
[13:54] <Kilos> try it
[13:54] <Langjan> And adding Susan
[13:54] <Kilos> i dont know everything
[13:54] <Kilos> you can always turn it off
[13:54] <Kilos> or remove
[13:54] <Langjan> well thats what i pay you for
[13:55] <Kilos> hahahaha
[13:55] <Kilos> superfly can you explain?
[13:55] <superfly> explain what?
[13:56] <Kilos> why use gufw
[13:56] <Langjan> hi superfly 
[13:56] <superfly> hi Langjan
[13:56] <Langjan> he made me install gufw now he cant tell me what it does 
[13:56] <Langjan> lmga
[13:56] <superfly> Kilos: the only time I use a firewall is for my router
[13:57] <Kilos> ok Langjan remove it
[13:57] <Kilos> sudo aptitude remove gufw
[13:57] <Langjan> make up your mind boss
[13:57] <Kilos> ill keep using it
[13:58] <Kilos> i have many enemies
[13:58] <Langjan> why would that be?
[13:58] <Kilos> um
[13:58] <Langjan> windows?
[13:58] <Kilos> i dont comb my hair the right way
[13:59] <Kilos> i used to say them sleg
[13:59] <Langjan> om, im lucky - I dont have any to comb
[13:59] <Kilos> haha
[14:00] <Langjan> Will gufw stop incoming skype calls?
[14:01] <Kilos> i dont think so
[14:01] <Kilos> doesnt stop debs
[14:01] <Langjan> I see skype in listening report
[14:01] <Langjan> ok
[14:01] <Langjan> skype me please lets see
[14:02] <Kilos> it eats data man
[14:02] <Kilos> i even have to curb debbie
[14:02] <Langjan> just do a chat message but see if it connects me as contact 
[14:03] <Langjan> jan.greeff
[14:03] <Kilos> ok sec
[14:04] <Kilos> theres lots of you
[14:05] <Langjan> Should only be one, skype name jan.greeff
[14:05] <Kilos> i did
[14:05] <Langjan> email jan@verslank.net
[14:05] <Kilos> warmbad pretoria paarl columbus
[14:05] <Kilos> en meer
[14:06] <Langjan> warmbad
[14:06] <Langjan> weet jy nog nie waar ek bly nie?
[14:07] <Kilos> bela bela
[14:07] <Langjan> ja warmbad
[14:07] <Kilos> you not answering
[14:07] <Langjan> dieselfde ding
[14:07] <Langjan> you have to send contact request
[14:08] <Kilos> whats that
[14:09] <Langjan> skype automatically asks you to send a contact request for all new contacts, thats what I want to see, if gufw lets it through
[14:09] <Kilos> lol
[14:10] <Kilos> i found a request thing
[14:10] <Langjan> did you find my skype name? It should show there
[14:10] <Langjan> ok
[14:11] <Kilos> do you have skype open even
[14:11] <Langjan> whats your skype name?
[14:11] <Langjan> yes
[14:13] <Langjan> maybe gufw is blocking you
[14:13] <Kilos> i dunno
[14:13] <Kilos> see pm
[14:13] <Langjan> did you click on send contact request?
[14:13] <Kilos> yes
[14:14] <Langjan> ok ive switched gufw off, try again
[14:29] <Kilos> ai!
[14:42] <nlsthzn> gufw will not by itself block anything that it isn't set to do... when just run it has the same default behaviour than not running it... it only becomes relevant when you make changes to it afaik...
[14:42] <nlsthzn> then again what do I know :p
[14:43] <Kilos> lol
[14:44] <Kilos> its good now if something doesnt work there i can blame unity
[14:44] <Kilos> he has been getting away with things lately
[14:45] <Kilos> Langjan https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Gufw
[14:45] <Kilos> learn what you can do with it
[14:45] <Kilos> im tired
[14:47] <nlsthzn> unity in 16.04 perhaps one of the most stable DE I have used in the last 5 years...
[15:21] <Kilos> nice
[15:21] <Kilos> speed usable again today
[15:21] <Langjan> Hi nlsthzn, by DE you mean operating system? 
[15:21] <Kilos> http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/5275261140
[15:22] <Langjan> stop bragging Kilos 
[15:22] <Kilos> Maaz define DE
[15:22] <Maaz> Kilos: De- \De-\ A prefix from Latin de down, from, away; as in debark, decline, decease, deduct, decamp. In words from the French it is equivalent to Latin dis- apart, away; or sometimes to de. Cf. {Dis-}. It is negative and opposite in derange, deform, destroy, etc. It is intensive in deprave, despoil, declare, desolate, etc. [1913 Webster], DE n 1: a Mid-
[15:22] <Maaz> Atlantic state; one of the original 13 colonies [syn: {Delaware}, {Diamond State}, {First State}…
[15:22] <Kilos> ai!
[15:23] <Kilos> maybe environment fits in there
[15:23] <Kilos> nope Langjan the guys with over 50mb/s  brag
[15:24] <Langjan> now I know exactly what DE is...
[15:24] <Langjan> l,mga
[15:24] <Kilos> what'
[15:24] <Langjan> ?
[15:24] <Kilos> desktop environment
[15:24] <Kilos> i think
[15:24] <Kilos> i battle with all the short things
[15:25] <Kilos> nlsthzn what is it man
[15:25] <Langjan> meaning the os I presume. Good to know
[15:26] <Langjan> I'll be watching, may upgrade sooner then 
[15:26] <Kilos> after 3 months
[15:26] <Langjan> gonna leave you guys, have work to do
[15:26] <nlsthzn> DE - desktop environment... the interface. Unity, gnome-shell, kde-plasma etc. :p
[15:26] <Kilos> 16.04.1
[15:26]  * nlsthzn goes now... bbl
[15:26] <Kilos> cheers nlsthzn 
[15:26] <Kilos> ty for the visit
[15:27] <Langjan> chat again some time Kilos lekker aand  
[15:28] <Kilos> jy ook dankie
[15:28] <Kilos> wag
[15:28] <Langjan> remember to switch gufw on
[15:28] <Kilos> leyt them sort this first
[15:28] <Kilos> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/xenial/+bugs
[15:30] <Langjan> ?
[15:30] <Langjan> does this relate to my freeze earlier?
[15:32] <Langjan> Kilos, you there?
[15:32] <Kilos> yes
[15:33] <Kilos> no man you are on 14.04
[15:33] <Kilos> anyway try typing in
[15:33] <Kilos> sudo touch /forcefsck and rebootin or going off
[15:33] <Kilos> when it boots it looks for things that are wrong
[15:34] <Kilos> the pro has a link on where to do fsck stuff but i forgot
[15:34] <Langjan> ok will do when I switch off tonight, thks
[15:34] <Kilos> skype made your unity freeze
[15:34] <Kilos> hehe
[15:34] <Kilos> Langjan ^^
[15:35] <Langjan> sudo touch /forcefsck  
[15:35] <Langjan> you were right, I got it in my library
[15:36] <Langjan> Mooi loop Kilos 
[15:36] <Langjan> wat is ^^?
[15:40] <Kilos> ai!
[16:00] <Kilos> hi Cryterion 
[16:00] <Kilos> Maaz tell Langjan ^^ beteken kyk bo
[16:00] <Maaz> Kilos: Got it, I'll tell Langjan on freenode
[16:09] <Kilos> gremble o/
[16:34] <Kilos> wb Cryterion 
[16:36] <Kilos> Maaz coffee on
[16:36]  * Maaz puts the kettle on
[16:40] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[16:40] <Kilos> Maaz gracias amigo
[16:40] <Maaz> ¡de nada compadre
[16:41]  * Kilos waves to tumbleweed
[16:41] <Kilos> all good there sir?
[16:51] <Cryterion> Hi
[17:30] <Kilos> wbb need modem for a bit
[18:52] <gremble> Hey Kilos 
[18:52] <gremble> How are you?
[18:53] <gremble> Gah. I have this HP probook on which I really want to install linux. But I cannot get it to boot with a USB and the bios randomly freezes 
[18:57] <nlsthzn> Maaz, tea please
[18:57] <Maaz> As soon as the kettle boils nlsthzn I will pour boiling water into your cup if you have the tea bag in already
[18:58] <nlsthzn> thanks Maaz 
[18:59] <Kilos> fine ty gremble  and you
[18:59] <gremble> I am well thanks
[19:00] <Kilos> gremble lets start at the beginning
[19:00] <Kilos> have you looked in bios
[19:01] <Kilos> might be a bug in bios itself
[19:02] <Kilos> so batteries out for and hour at least the set bios to defaults and then set boot order etc
[19:03] <Kilos> this thinkpad also refused to accept linux , thats why i brought it to me
[19:04] <Kilos> some windows stuff in bios i had to change
[19:04] <Kilos> i think it was allow something or other
[19:05] <nlsthzn> often a quick search with the exact make and model will give results for some specific issues etc...
[19:05] <Kilos> before you worry about batteries out ty reset bios to default values
[19:06] <Kilos> oh and google is your friend
[19:06] <Kilos> im a hammer and nails guy
[19:06] <gremble> So far no luck. But I will probably sort it out over the June/July vacation. 
[19:06] <Kilos> but let me know so i can also learn
[19:06] <gremble> Then I will have time
[19:06] <Kilos> sjoe
[19:07] <Kilos> then pull batteries for a day 
[19:07] <Kilos> then bios will go to factory setting on its own
[19:08] <gremble> Doesn't the mobo have it's own battery?
[19:08] <Kilos> yes
[19:09] <Kilos> finding it can be google work
[19:09] <Kilos> google chaging cmos battery in that particular make and model
[19:09] <Kilos> changing
[19:10] <Kilos> they will most likely give a few youtube links as well so if you have data then you can watch how
[21:41] <Kilos> sjoe
[21:41] <Kilos> night all . sleep tight