[00:00] <ForgottenPlayer> Bashing-om, so, I'm going for 15.10, thanks ;)
[00:01] <akik> !ask | citizen_
[00:01] <Monticello1743> can anyone walk me through the steps to make my Kubuntu fullscreen in VirtualBox?
[00:02] <brokenWhyFi> Monticello1743:  try installing guest additions virtual cd
[00:02] <arash> im not sure about vbox but i think you should edit your grub: sudo nano /etc/defaults/grub
[00:03] <Monticello1743> hellooooo
[00:03] <Bashing-om> ForgottenPlayer: 15.10 goes EOL real soon .. For a server application ?
[00:03] <arash> edit it like this: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash video=hyperv_fb:1366x768"
[00:05] <brokenWhyFi> Monticello1743:  Mount the Guest Additions by selecting Devices --> Insert Guest Additions CD
[00:05] <Monticello1743> ok I will do that
[00:05] <Monticello1743> I thought there were sudo commands to run in addition to mounting the Guest Additions
[00:06] <brokenWhyFi> Monticello1743: i didnt think so  just run the VBoxLinuxAdditions.run script within the newly mounted cd
[00:06] <brokenWhyFi> Monticello1743:  then wait for it to do it's business and then restart the Guest OS
[00:07] <Bushman> how's this highlighting me?
[00:07] <brokenWhyFi> Monticello1743: After you run this, VirtualBox should automatically resize the Guest resolution to the window size. Pressing right Ctrl + F will toggle full screen of that monitor.
[00:07] <Bushman> 00:07:58 < reisio> nickismynick: what's the error you get?
[00:07] <Monticello1743> yeah but I have to run it via command prompt because it says I need to be a super user
[00:07] <Bushman> can someone say 'mynick'?
[00:07] <Monticello1743> ok I am going to try
[00:07] <malena> ola
[00:08] <pijinn> @Monticello: right click > run as admin doesn't work?
[00:08] <Monticello1743> run as admin is not an option via Kubuntu
[00:08] <Monticello1743> I can only choose to run via terminal
[00:08] <pijinn> ah, haven't messed around with KDE in years
[00:09] <Bashing-om> Bushman: There is #test channel .
[00:11] <brokenWhyFi> Monticello1743: you may have to install dkms
[00:11] <brokenWhyFi> Monticello1743: here should explain how to get it going for you https://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch04.html#idp46640732075968
[00:11] <Monticello1743> man you guys are awesome. thanks for the support
[00:12] <brokenWhyFi> Monticello1743: np goodluck
[00:12] <pijinn> I'm having trouble running Tabletop Simulator through Steam. I have a fresh install of Ubuntu MATE 16.04 and of Steam v017. When I open the game, a blank window flashes for a split second then disappears, nothing else seems to happen... I'm also having the same problem with GameVox...
[00:12] <clorisu> anyone know why i cant cam on skype and in my web browser simultaneously?
[00:13] <sebsebseb> clorisu: yeah probaby sort of
[00:13] <brokenWhyFi> clorisu: websams already in use
[00:13] <bobby_> hey why is #xenial has not been established
[00:13] <pijinn> @clorisu: prolly cause another app is already using it
[00:14] <brokenWhyFi> clorisu: do you have an extra webcam ? then just specify in the settings which cam is for which app
[00:14] <clorisu> sebsebseb: brokenWhyFi pijinn , yes its being used by skype
[00:15] <clorisu> im asking why i cant use it on both skype and in web browser at same time like i can on windows?
[00:15] <clorisu> no brokenWhyFi no extra webcam
[00:15] <brokenWhyFi> clorisu: :(
[00:16] <pijinn> i didn't know windows let you do that, i wish i knew a work around for you
[00:19] <bobby_> anoyne know here why xenial won't mount my ios device but will on 15.10?
[00:22] <brokenWhyFi> clorisu: maybe checkout the software WebcamStudio  just found this "On windows you can use splitcam to duplicate the feed. On Linux, you can use WebcamStudio."
[00:23] <ShalokShalom> hi there :)
[00:23] <ShalokShalom> is there a list of all ubuntu projects, who ever exist?
[00:23] <brokenWhyFi> bobby_: what v ios is it?
[00:24] <OerHeks> ShalokShalom, sure, see https://launchpad.net/projects
[00:24] <clorisu> brokenWhyFi:  ive tried webcam studio about 12 times over the years, its really crap
[00:24] <clorisu> lol
[00:25] <ShalokShalom> OerHeks: i mean from Canonical
[00:25] <jerseycity-n5> anyone have a gigabyte p25w here? touchpad issues :( https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-synaptics/+bug/1563588
[00:25] <brokenWhyFi> clorisu: oh dang.. i was just looking for any other way i havnt tried it before
[00:25] <jerseycity-n5> it has worked on at least two occasions but doesn't work anymore after rebooting
[00:26] <bobby_> brokenwhyP: 9.2
[00:26] <OerHeks> ShalokShalom, not sure what you mean by that, all softwareprojects are registered at launchpad AFAIK
[00:27] <jerseycity-n5> please ping any xorg input synaptic people you know (:
[00:27] <ShalokShalom> OerHeks: the projects, which are founded and payed by Canonical
[00:27] <ShalokShalom> the official ones
[00:27] <ShalokShalom> like mir, unity and so on
[00:27] <insanity54> clorisu: i totally agree, webcam studio is not good for me
[00:27] <ShalokShalom> not the pure community ones
[00:27] <insanity54> cpu usage thru the roof
[00:28] <ShalokShalom> and can i sort the list in a way to see, how many of this projects and which ones are droped down?
[00:28] <insanity54> clorisu: here u go https://askubuntu.com/questions/416380/how-to-create-a-duplicate-of-dev-video0
[00:29] <dragon21> Hi :) I'm using Ubuntu 16.04 LTS but "umake android" dont work :::  ERROR: A default framework for category Android was requested where there is none
[00:29] <dragon21> Someone can help me please
[00:30] <akik> insanity54: nice find
[00:31] <insanity54> dragon21: you need some android package. I don't know which, maybe the android community knows
[00:31] <insanity54> akik: ya i think its prety neat, im going to try it
[00:32] <dragon21> ok, thanks
[00:32] <insanity54> actually dragon21 i think i may have found a bug report
[00:32] <insanity54> for your issue
[00:32] <brokenWhyFi> insanity54: akik clorisu  ya thats awesome
[00:33] <dragon21> insanity54 you are from ubuntu team developer?
[00:34] <insanity54> dragon21: nope, just an ubuntu user who likes googling things :)
[00:34] <brokenWhyFi> anybody know what could cause my wifi menubar icon to be a ethernet up/down arrow when i have no ethernet adapter... it keeps switching to that??
[00:34] <insanity54> Nevermind, i think the link the bug tracker is broken, but here is an askubuntu page about the isssue https://askubuntu.com/questions/757801/ubuntu-16-04-beta-2-umake-android-error-a-default-framework-for-category-androi
[00:35] <dragon21> ok :p I already google my problem but juist see on solution, install from a custom ppa
[00:35] <insanity54> yeah sometimes the latest LTS releases are not great for development
[00:35] <bobby_> hey my software center disappeared upon upgrading from 15.10 to 16.04 , does anyone here know what happened?
[00:35] <insanity54> because the developers have not caught up yet
[00:36] <bohm4> bobby_: it was replaced
[00:36] <bobby_> oh?
[00:36] <bohm4> see 16.04 release notes
[00:36] <bobby_> replaced to something better or different?
[00:36] <dragon21> I remove windows 10 for install ubuntu 16.04 LTS on SSD, A have dual-boot with old ubuntu 15.10
[00:36] <smex> do you see the stream well? https://www.livecoding.tv/jinmuu/
[00:37] <OerHeks> smex, nope, too many adds
[00:37] <squinty> bobby_,  yet to be determined.
[00:38] <smex> adds?
[00:39] <brokenWhyFi> smex: its working haha
[00:41] <smex> thanks :)
[00:42] <c0nfuseki> I am needing assistance with udev. I would like to know if listing a parent device's details (which is showing to be different for every port of a usb hub when i use "" udevadm info -a -n /dev/sdb "") is enough to make it a valid udev rule to identify a particular USB hub/port value...? can I run my udev rule without resetting my computer? (when the port numbers can possibly all be redefined on reboot)
[00:45] <Gallomimia> can someone please tell me what to do with this busted system? it freezes immediately upon loading the login screen. up until that point the keyboard works fine. ctrl-alt-F[1-7] work to switch consoles. encrypted disk unlock with passphrase. soon as the login screen shows the input and display lock up. i can ssh in and make changes. i tried changng the video drivers from nvidia-361 to nvidia-358 but no change in
[00:45] <Gallomimia> behavior. i don't even know what to look for to find what's causing this.
[00:45] <Gallomimia> (pssst. i'm running ubuntu 14.04 by the way)
[00:47] <insanity54> Gallomimia: Can you log into a terminal using Ctrl+Alt+F...? If you can, try running `dmesg`
[00:47] <Gallomimia> no but i can read it with ssh
[00:48] <Gallomimia> i did that once. it alluded to problems with the graphics card. but i don't know what any of it means really
[00:49] <linuxgecko> is a 15.10 ->16.04 dist-upgrade sane and safe already?  past experience has been hit and miss with dist-upgrade
[00:49] <Gallomimia> linuxgecko: past experience has been miss and miss for me. and i think you mean do-release-upgrade
[00:50] <linuxgecko> Gallomimia: we have new syntax for it?
[00:50] <Gallomimia> no. it's always been that
[00:50] <Bashing-om> Gallomimia: A thought: verify that the graphic's driver builds - any errors in the /var/log/Xorg.0.log file ?
[00:50] <Gallomimia> dist-upgrade does kernel upgrades but not release upgrades
[00:50] <bipul> Do anyone help me in installing pbuilder http://paste.ubuntu.net/16018162/
[00:51] <linuxgecko> Gallomimia: always?  i don't recall that being the  case in 10.04
[00:51] <linuxgecko> Gallomimia: admittedly,  that was agesa ago :)
[00:51] <Gallomimia> well perhaps you've been ubuntu user longer than me. but it has always been that way since i could remember
[00:51] <Gallomimia> apt-get dist-upgrade just upgrades things you need to reboot for
[00:52] <Gallomimia> Bashing-om: what am i looking for? got ssh to go and reading that log
[00:52] <Gallomimia> [   162.098] (II) This device may have been added with another device file.
[00:53] <insanity54> bipul: you're installing a debian squeeze repository for ubuntu? is that known to work?
[00:53] <Gallomimia> [   160.373] (II) NVIDIA dlloader X Driver  358.16  Mon Nov 16 18:32:40 PST 2015
[00:53] <Gallomimia> that seems right
[00:53] <Gallomimia> bipul, insanity54: no in fact its known to usually not work
[00:53] <Bashing-om> Gallomimia: Anything 'EE" for error . The log will also reflect that the driver did build if it is OK .
[00:54] <Gallomimia> Bashing-om: there's quite a few EE's
[00:54] <Gallomimia> [   160.373] (EE) module ABI major version (15) doesn't match the server's version (19) for example
[00:55] <Bashing-om> Gallomimia: Pastebin ? See what I can determine .
[00:55] <Gallomimia> right-o
[00:55] <insanity54> bipul: nevermind, i see the tutorial on the ubuntu site. Well the issue might be with this link where the repository is at- ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/squeeze/Release it's throwing an error visiting it
[00:55] <insanity54> bipul: you might try again later or find a different repository
[00:55] <bipul> iSagitt, Because squeeze is present and upto date stable disto, shall i mention squeeze?
[00:55] <bipul> sorry iSagitt
[00:55] <bipul> insanity54, Because squeeze is present and upto date stable disto, shall i mention squeeze?
[00:56] <linuxgecko> Gallomimia: release upgrade in progress.
[00:56] <Gallomimia> here's hoping bud
[00:56] <squinty> Gallomimia, linuxgecko   iirc, that method utilized manually changing the sources list to the name of the current release; do-release-upgrade was introduce as a newer means of upgrading
[00:57] <Gallomimia> squinty: all i recall is that manually changing the name in sources was a bad bad plan
[00:58] <Gallomimia> Bashing-om: i present to you: a mess. http://paste.ubuntu.com/16018251/
[00:58] <squinty> Gallomimia, at one time it was standard  hence the need for do-release-upgrade (supposedly better stability)
[00:58] <Bashing-om> Gallomimia: Lemme wade through it .. back in a bit .
[00:58] <Gallomimia> yeah. i think it goobered my setup when i had ppa graphics drivers
[00:58] <bipul> insanity54, Which repository? can you help me in it.
[00:58] <Gallomimia> i still have that.
[00:59] <insanity54> bipul: no, just try a different mirror
[01:03] <squinty> bipul,  Software and updates -> Download from ->  Other -> Select best server
[01:04] <squinty> bipul,  that will attempt to give you the best server to presently utilize for downloading.... that said, it may not be the best server tomorrow.  :-)
[01:04] <justdave> When I run the software update on my 15.10 it says 16.04 is available and asks if I want to ugprade.  I pick "Upgrade..." then get prompted for the sudo password.  Then nothing happens.
[01:05] <squinty> !lstrelease | justdave
[01:05] <squinty> !ltsrelease | justdave
[01:06] <justdave> I don't think whatever bot is supposed to be responding to that is working
[01:06]  * squinty has forgotten what the bot term is
[01:07] <squinty> justdave,  recommended to wait for 16.04.1 (in july) for upgrading via that method
[01:07] <Gallomimia> module version mismatch
[01:07] <Gallomimia> i don't like the sound of that
[01:07] <justdave> squinty: ok.
[01:08] <Gallomimia> ubottu: are you alive?
[01:08] <Gallomimia> hm. he's working. just doesn't have that command
[01:08] <bipul> squinty, I am trying to install pbuilder.
[01:09] <Orphis> n1md4: No, I haven't found a proper solution for 16.04 beside reverting the kernel
[01:09] <bobby_> what happened to the software center on 15.10 how did it get replaced in 16.04
[01:09] <justdave> I seem to recall having that same problem going from 15.04 to 15.10, though
[01:09] <justdave> I ended up running do-release-upgrade from the command line to make it work, because the GUI wouldn't
[01:09] <justdave> so was wondering if it was something longer term broken on my computer
[01:10] <squinty> bipul,  aptitide shows it's in repo's here
[01:10] <Bashing-om> Gallomimia: Yeah . think you have the right of it " (EE) module ABI major version (15) doesn't match the server's version (19) " . Looking to see what can be done .
[01:10] <Gallomimia> thank you
[01:10] <insanity54> squinty: your directions are for ubuntu packages. I was not saying bipul needs a different ubuntu package repository, but a differnt debian package repsitory to use within pbuilder
[01:11] <insanity54> bipul: do you need Debian Squeeze, or would a newer Debian version work?
[01:11] <squinty> justdave,  the gui (iirc) will not respond until the 16.04.1 release, however, as you already know you can manually do the upgrade
[01:11] <alicewonderlan> yo
[01:11] <justdave> squinty: shouldn't the GUI not prompt you for it then?
[01:11] <insanity54> bipul: because I think that is your problem. Squeese suppport ended in 2014 and that is why you get an error trying to donwload squeeze repository
[01:11] <justdave> squinty: the GUI is actually prompting me for it, then silently fails
[01:12] <squinty> justdave,  not sure on that aspect, to be honest.
[01:13] <squinty> insanity54, check EOL for debian
[01:14] <jlim> bluetooth not working 16.06
[01:14] <jlim> ????
[01:15] <insanity54> squinty: https://wiki.debian.org/DebianSqueeze
[01:15] <bipul> insanity54, I am interested in learning ubuntu packaging, that is why i am trying to intall pbuilder
[01:15] <bipul> But while installing pbuilder, It showing me some error.
[01:16] <insanity54> bipul: very cool, that sounds like a fun project. Here's the problem though. The command you are running is trying to download from a directory 'squeeze' at this website -- `ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/`
[01:16] <insanity54> bipul: if you look at that website, there is no sqeeze directory
[01:17] <insanity54> bipul: it's too old
[01:17] <squinty> bipul,  don't personally know anything about it but the actual error message displayed would be more help to possible helpers rather than "some error"
[01:17] <bipul> insanity54, That is why i changed it to Jessie
[01:17] <insanity54> squinty: you missed it, bipul alrady posted console output
[01:18] <squinty> insanity54,  yep, came in late to the conversation.  will bow out  "-)
[01:18] <bipul> Now i made changes with sid
[01:18] <bipul> let see
[01:18]  * squinty seems that the question is more applicable to #debian that here though
[01:19] <insanity54> squinty: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PbuilderHowto
[01:19] <bipul> squinty, Yes, i have asked them
[01:19] <bipul> Once i installed this pbuilder then i love to update that wiki area https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PbuilderHowto
[01:21] <Bashing-om> Gallomimia: Google search term " (EE) module ABI major version ": lot's of hits but no one giving a good solution  :(
[01:22] <Gallomimia> hmmm
[01:22] <levtim> Hello, is there a way to see a recent history of what's been happening in a channel?
[01:23] <squinty> logs | levtim
[01:23] <levtim> lgs
[01:23] <levtim> logs
[01:23] <squinty> sorry
[01:23] <squinty> !logs | levtim
[01:23] <levtim> !logs
[01:23] <levtim> Gotcha
[01:23] <levtim> Thank you!
[01:24] <squinty> yw
[01:24] <grummy> trying to install ubuntu 16.04 on my desktop but it just bugs out whenever I try, the usb stick that I'm using it for works just fine on my laptop though, using right now infact :(
[01:24] <archonii> Hi folks.
[01:24] <levtim> grummy: how far does it get?
[01:24] <archonii> It says the upgrade can take several hours.
[01:24] <archonii> That scares me.
[01:24] <bipul> !logs
[01:24] <archonii> Why does the original install take only 10 mins but the upgrade takes hours?
[01:25] <levtim> ubottu: thank you!
[01:25] <grummy> levtim: it goes through the ubuntu loading screen with the dots just fine but after that there are loads of graphical glitches (the screen is only bars of colour) and an error windows sometimes pops up in the corner somehow
[01:25] <grummy> theres a mouse icon too but it doesnt move
[01:26] <squinty> levtim,  ubottu is a bot... usually it will reply "I am only a bot" :-)
[01:26] <levtim> squinty: thank you
[01:27] <Gallomimia> Bashing-om: well that's a step in the right direction i guess. thanks
[01:28] <levtim> grummy: When it first boots up, is there an option to do a command line install?
[01:29] <grummy> nope
[01:29] <linuxgecko> ok,  now my graphics got screwed up.  how do i tell it to try and re-install the proprietary fglrx drivers , usiung just the cli?
[01:30] <grummy> if i push a button on keyboard before the loading screen it only has try ubuntu, install ubuntu (but that is the gui one) and the test thing
[01:30] <Bashing-om> Gallomimia: From the hints I see .. need to replace all of the Xorg stuff and re-install the graphic's driver . Lemme look again at the kernel you are running.
[01:30] <Gallomimia> 3.13.0-85-generic
[01:30] <Gallomimia> (which is strange to me. i'd rather run a newer one
[01:31] <Gallomimia> Bashing-om: i did actually purge all of nvidia stuff and reinstall an older version
[01:31] <Gallomimia> i heard 361 was problematic so that was my first go
[01:31] <Gallomimia> and i did that since i saw this problem arise
[01:31] <Bashing-om> Gallomimia: Well is the a virtual machine ? One can opt in for HWE on a standard install and get the later kernels.
[01:31] <Gallomimia> nope
[01:31] <Bashing-om> !hwe | Gallomimia
[01:32] <levtim> grummy: What happens if you push F6 at the first install screen for "Other Options"?
[01:33] <Bashing-om> Gallomimia: A thought that if you do opt for HWE it might fix the problem . maybe ??
[01:33] <Gallomimia> here's hoping
[01:33] <Gallomimia> i should mention it's on LVM. i could just take a snapshop of my root drive and install something new. like 16.04
[01:33] <Gallomimia> i'm not terribly stuck on 14.04 but i don't like jumping on the newest release right away
[01:34] <Bashing-om> Gallomimia: What card are you running, and I check with what Nvidia recommends for a driver version .
[01:34] <Gallomimia> gtx780 Ti
[01:34] <Gallomimia> and i think they recommend 364
[01:34] <Gallomimia> but that's still in beta
[01:34] <grummy> levtim: it has expert mode and some other stuff
[01:34] <Gallomimia> i've had it work with 352 and 358 tho
[01:35] <Gallomimia> sudo apt-get install --install-recommends linux-generic-lts-wily
[01:35] <Gallomimia> here goes.
[01:35] <Bashing-om> Gallomimia: 361 : http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/101423/en-us .
[01:36] <Gallomimia> yeah that's the one i just installed. then an update and my bludgeoning configs caused the system to not boot for like 2 weeks
[01:36] <pichaku> hi, is it possible to install the minimal ubuntu-server using the desktop iso?
[01:36] <Gallomimia> just managed to get it to ask for crypto passphrase
[01:36] <Gallomimia> pichaku: no. that's what the server iso is for
[01:37] <pichaku> thanks. time to find another usb stick
[01:37] <Gallomimia> i recommend labelling them
[01:37]  * Xark got his laptop pretty much all setup and deems Ubuntu 16.04 the best Ubuntu yet (even if a tiny bit wacky with Intel wifi - I blame Intel). :)
[01:37] <Gallomimia> works fine?
[01:37] <jlim> bluetooth issue with 16.04 any work arounds?
[01:38] <Bashing-om> Gallomimia: For what it is worth .. I have seen better results with the 361 version over the 352. I do not know if Nvidia has fixed the limited vdpau decoding support in 352 .
[01:38] <jlim> no a2dp
[01:38] <jlim> no auto connecting
[01:38] <Gallomimia> the last time i jumped on a new release days after it came out, a bunch of packages i needed did not play nice with the new system
[01:38] <Gallomimia> so i was rightly goobered for quite awhile.
[01:38] <wafflej0ck> jlim, restarting bluetooth service after switching to a2dp once seems to work here
[01:39] <grummy> levtim: if i boot saying just to try its fine until i hit the desktop where it is then very unhappy
[01:39] <jlim> grummy
[01:39] <levtim> grummy: How much RAM do you have?
[01:39] <jlim> grummy: i can;t even switch
[01:39] <grummy> levtim: 8gb
[01:39] <fyp> 0.0
[01:39] <Gallomimia> Bashing-om: i'll try changing back to 361 after this kernel upgrades. what's the best way to get 361 installed and 358 uninstalled without it wanting to install a ton of neuvau and mesa stuff in the interim?
[01:40] <fyp> ...
[01:40] <levtim> grummy: Are you dual booting? Mine took a long time to find my Windows partition
[01:40] <grummy> levtim: yeah i am
[01:41] <Gallomimia> oh. sudo apt-get install nvidia-361, works just fine. removes old version
[01:42] <grummy> levtim: well im trying to, havnt been able to start ubuntu without my graphics card looking like its melting yet
[01:44] <jlim> wafflej0ck: can't even switch to a2dp
[01:44] <insanity54> Xark: got any notes on performance differences?
[01:44] <wafflej0ck> jlim, ah different problem then... I actually had that issue on 14.04 but on 16.04 with my headphones they now have the a2dp option
[01:44] <Bashing-om> Gallomimia: ' sudo apt remove nvidia-* ' and for the 361 version on 14.04 I sure favor ' sudo add-apt-repository ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa ' .
[01:44] <grummy> how do I install ubuntu from terminal when using live cd since that seems to work fine?
[01:44] <wafflej0ck> jlim, sorry don't really know the bluetooth utility details to help out
[01:44] <asad_> how can I install vlc on ubuntu 16.04?
[01:45] <asad_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/16019015/
[01:45] <Gallomimia> Bashing-om: yes i have that ppa added. and i find remove first wants to install all the other stuff which i want to avoid
[01:45] <Xark> insanity54: Not really, this is an Ubuntu virgin laptop.  I have been running 14.04 on several other machines (but not comparable).
[01:45] <Gallomimia> anyway. the kernel update and the graphics drivers update finished
[01:45] <Gallomimia> time to reboot it
[01:46] <Bashing-om> Gallomimia: fingers crossed .
[01:46] <asad_> anyone?
[01:46] <Gallomimia> asad_: i would think so. but maybe there's no package for that repo yet?
[01:46] <Xark> insanity54: But it is extremely usable (8BG, Samsung SSD and Intel i5 skylake @2.60 IIRC).  Dell Inspiron 15 (5559)
[01:47] <insanity54> grummy: i think u need the network installer for that http://www.ubuntu.com/download/alternative-downloads
[01:47] <wow6equj5> Hello everyone, I have a pretty serious problem on my Xubuntu 16.04, all my USB ports suddenly stopped working. Everything was working fine, then I put the computer on sleep mode and turned it on again, and now none of my USB port seems to work.
[01:47] <asad_> Gallomimia: I'm sorry?
[01:47] <Gallomimia> asad_: uh... maybe you have broken packages. try again with the -f flag
[01:47] <wafflej0ck> asad_, did you try running sudo apt-get update, then install?
[01:47] <Xark> insanity54: I just finished installing a bunch of FPGA suites (huge) and I haven't done real tests, but seems basically same speed or faster than Win7-64 i7 machine...
[01:47] <insanity54> Xark: very nice, thanks
[01:47] <wafflej0ck> yeah I have it installed here from 14.04 upgrade to 16.04
[01:48] <asad_> wafflej0ck: yes, same output.
[01:48] <levtim> grummy: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/netboot/16.04/?_ga=1.83242134.1606770373.1461452558
[01:48] <Xark> insanity54: Only minor hiccup for me, was Intel wifi worked in installer, but not after it installed.  I figured out it wanted a cold-start for some reason...
[01:48] <wafflej0ck> asad_, weird I tried sudo apt-get install vlc --reinstall, and seemed to still be okay
[01:48] <levtim> You could try the netboot install cd
[01:48] <levtim> that does a command line install
[01:48] <ArrEmmArrEff> asad_: did you sudo add-apt-repository ppa:videolan/stable-daily   ?
[01:49] <asad_> ArrEmmArrEff: Nope. Vlc is in the repositories.
[01:49] <wafflej0ck> asad_, one sec let me see if I can find the package on packages.ubuntu.com to see if I can help figure out what's wrong
[01:49] <levtim> grummy: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/netboot/16.04/?_ga=1.83242134.1606770373.1461452558
[01:49] <levtim> grummy: You could try the netboot install cd
[01:50] <Gallomimia> Bashing-om: same result.
[01:50] <wafflej0ck> asad_, you try installing this directly? http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/libgles1-mesa I wonder if some other package you have is making it not install but not sure exactly how to check why it isn't installing that package
[01:50] <root___19> hello?
[01:50] <hm> hi all
[01:50] <wafflej0ck> hello root___17 and hm
[01:50] <root___19> woah, it works lol
[01:50] <asad_> wafflej0ck: the dependencies should be automatically installed...
[01:50] <Bashing-om> Gallomimia: Ouch. sorry .. above my skill level at this time .
[01:50] <hm> how do i upgrade from 14.04 to 16.06?
[01:50] <root___19> how do I change my name?
[01:51] <Gallomimia> root___19: /nick newname
[01:51] <hm> 16.04
[01:51] <root___19> thanks Gallomimia
[01:51] <hm> Does anyone know?
[01:52] <Gallomimia> Bashing-om: what does this even mean? [  166.594338] NVRM: corruption and stability problems, and is not supported.
[01:52] <Rooster> you need to backup your version
[01:52] <grummy_> levtim: thanks for trying to help, ill try it tomorrow :)
[01:52] <asad_> wafflej0ck: are you able to install vlc on 16.04?
[01:52] <Rooster> hm, go to update manager
[01:52] <levtim> grummy_: good luck!
[01:53] <hm> i did but it says you are up to date but i am sill on 14.04
[01:53] <Rooster> hold on
[01:53] <Rooster> you need to go to your settings
[01:53] <hm> k
[01:53] <ArrEmmArrEff> asad_: worked for me
[01:54] <ArrEmmArrEff> asad_: i just installed it from repo no prob on 16.04
[01:54] <Rooster> where it says "Notify me of a new Ubuntu version:" click "For any new version"
[01:54] <asad_> ArrEmmArrEff: what should I do then? how do I install it ?
[01:54] <Bashing-om> Gallomimia: Trashing memory . " Non Volatile RAM Memory ..." .
[01:54] <Gallomimia> sounds.... special
[01:54] <hm> oh I had it for LTS
[01:55] <Rooster> Yeah, it'll say version 15.xx but upgrade and then just check it over again after that
[01:55] <asad_> this is so stupid
[01:55] <Rooster> If you have issues with broken packages/dependencies, you'll need to just put a fresh install of the current version you're on
[01:56] <Rooster> I've searched all over for a solution on broken packages and I got nothing helpful.
[01:56] <ArrEmmArrEff> asad_:  youve rebooted since starting to troubleshoot this yes?
[01:56] <hm> ok. i am trying to skip a full clean install but will see. thx though
[01:56] <Rooster> np
[01:56] <asad_> Rooster: I reinstalled the OS. There's something wrong with ubuntu itself.
[01:57] <hm> unny it still says i am upto date lol
[01:57] <Rooster> asad_: You sure?
[01:57] <asad_> vlc doesn't install on 16.04. it's a bug.
[01:57] <asad_> Rooster: Yes, this is a fresh install of 16.04;
[01:57] <Bashing-om> Gallomimia: In this instance, are you using the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file ?
[01:57] <ailion> Hello everyone, this is AI.Lion
[01:57] <wow6equj5> Hello everyone. I need help troubleshooting the USB ports on my laptop. They all suddenly stopped working for no apparent reason after a reboot. I'm on Xubuntu 16.04.
[01:58] <Gallomimia> Bashing-om: that file appears to be absent
[01:58] <Rooster> asad_: How are you having issues upgrading if you're on the latest version?
[01:58] <ArrEmmArrEff> asad_: i just did it 2 mins ago  and it worked
[01:58] <Gallomimia> Bashing-om: tho theres 2 renamed "backups"
[01:58] <asad_> Rooster: I'm not able to install VLC. I wanna install VLC. It's not installing.
[01:58] <Gallomimia> .failsafe and .(numbers)
[01:58] <Rooster> asad_: Have you tried it on lower versions?
[01:59] <Gallomimia> oh. the numbers are today's date
[01:59] <Bashing-om> Gallomimia: Expected not to be .. as it's use is depreciated .. was but a thought if it were present to regenerate it .
[01:59] <ailion> wow6equj5  Can you  see  these USB devices in hardinfo?  You can install it via apt-get
[01:59] <asad_> Rooster: Yup it installs perfectly fine on 14.04.
[01:59] <Gallomimia> i'll rename that
[01:59] <Rooster> asad_: Are you trying it from the terminal or from the software center?
[01:59] <asad_> Rooster: Tried both.
[01:59] <asad_> Rooster: Neither work.
[01:59] <cfhowlett> asad_, close software center.  open terminal.  apt-get -s install vlc | pastebinit
[02:00] <asad_> cfhowlett: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16019015/
[02:00] <Rooster> asad_: I have no clue, I'm stuck on 14.04 because of broken packages and I don't want a fresh install. And you've googled all this?
[02:00] <Bashing-om> Gallomimia: Well .. maybe the VM requires it ?  ' sudo nvidia-xconfig ' will regenerate the file .
[02:00] <Gallomimia> Bashing-om: it's deprecated? what the hell replaces it?
[02:00] <wow6equj5> ailion: No, there is no USB device listed here. And my cellphone won't even charge through them.
[02:00] <Gallomimia> uh, VM? what VM
[02:01] <Gallomimia> if i moved the old xorg.conf file how do i get it to reload? restart X, and so on
[02:01] <Gallomimia> i'd rather not reboot the whole system
[02:01] <Rooster> asad_: Try this "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:videolan/stable-daily
[02:01] <Bashing-om> Gallomimia: Dynamic Kernel Mode Setting. where the kernel does all the discovery .
[02:01] <Gallomimia> takes forever
[02:01] <Rooster> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install vlc
[02:01] <asad_> Rooster: I've tried that. Same error.
[02:02] <cfhowlett> asad_, https://community.linuxmint.com/tutorial/view/482
[02:02] <Rooster> asad_: I have not a damn clue, I'm looking right now.
[02:02] <ailion> wow6equj5,  you may first test out whether it is a hardware problem or not.
[02:02] <asad_> Rooster: It's okay. I guess I'll just have to live without VLC...
[02:02] <insanity54> asad_: you're using bleeding edge. LTS doesn't mean ready for prime time, LTS just means it'll be supported longer than  other versions
[02:02] <Gallomimia> Bashing-om: and how does that work out for a DP monitor that likes to turn itself off quickly
[02:03] <wow6equj5> ailion: Well I don't remember bumping the laptop or whatever but allright, how can I test that ?
[02:03] <insanity54> it'd be good to file a bug
[02:03] <insanity54> report
[02:03] <Omnicrom> semi noob here, ive installed and used ubuntu fine in the past but cant get it to boot into it this time around, you think someone here could lend a quick hand?
[02:03] <Rooster> Is there someway to run commands while in the IRC?
[02:04] <Xali> Omnicrom: what does it boot into
[02:04] <levtim> Rooster: You can hit Alt-F2 to go into another terminal
[02:04] <Rooster> levtim: Thanks
[02:04] <Gallomimia> anyone? can ye tell me how to restart X
[02:04] <Omnicrom> nothing it tries to boot into my disk reader then goes to setup screen
[02:04] <vervet> Rooster: i'd suggest screen
[02:04] <ailion> wow6equj5,  Since your USB devices worked fine before, a Ubuntu Live CD would be a good test tool.
[02:04] <Xali> Gallominia: startx
[02:04] <levtim> Rooster: THen try all the other Alt-Fs to get back to IRC
[02:04] <Bashing-om> Gallomimia: what is the purpose of the boot parameters " nomdmonddf nomdmonisw " are these interferring ?
[02:04] <insanity54> Gallomimia: Right Alt+PrintScreen+K?
[02:05] <wow6equj5> ailion: Ok I will try that and get back here then, thanks.
[02:05] <ailion> wow6equj5, You are welcome.
[02:05] <Apocope> Is anyone running ZFS on root? I've tried following the instructions here: https://github.com/rlaager/zfs/wiki/HOWTO-install-Ubuntu-to-a-Native-ZFS-Root-Filesystem but my computer then says there's no OS installed.
[02:05] <Gallomimia> Bashing-om: huh? i actually don't know.
[02:05] <Bashing-om> Gallomimia: I have NEVER seen them .
[02:05] <Gallomimia> i seem to remember having to put some of those in there just to get the screen to show something
[02:06] <Xali> Gallominia: startx will restart xorg
[02:06] <Xali> Gallominia: If it does not, you need to check the var/logs and find the error
[02:06] <Gallomimia> EE) module ABI major version (20) doesn't match the server's version (21)
[02:07] <Gallomimia> actually
[02:07] <Gallomimia> i see my desktop
[02:07] <Gallomimia> but it's a mess
[02:07] <Gallomimia> Xali: i should mention my only access is thru an ssh session
[02:07] <Xali> Gallominia: define "mess"
[02:07] <Omnicrom> i tried boot repair and that didnt fix it but i was able to see that grub was on sda2 and the boot flag was on sda1 so i put the boot flag on sda2 to see if that would fix it but still didnt work for me
[02:07] <Gallomimia> the icons are mucked about, there's no background or launch bar or titlescreen
[02:07] <Xali> then gnome needs to be restaerted too
[02:07] <Gallomimia> or mouse. and the window manager is not normal
[02:08] <Gallomimia> the whole thing is getting restarted.
[02:08] <Xali> gnome and xorg will still crash on reboot
[02:08] <Gallomimia> i'm hoping the moved xorg.conf file will fix that
[02:09] <ailion> I have a Nivia GTX650 and a AMD Radeon HD 7850 installed at the same time. I know it's not a common case to install two video cards from different vendors. The problem is HD7850 stops working in Ubuntu 16.04 LTS. Where can I download driver? An article on the web says the Official AMD drivers won't work. THX.
[02:09] <Xali> maybe. but gnome will crash again
[02:09] <Xali> ailion: check github and forumns
[02:09] <Gallomimia> and i'm going to try it without those options Bashing-om mentioned
[02:10] <cfhowlett> ailion, not the common case and guaranteed to cause severe issue.  suggestion: choose ONE vendor and get the other card.
[02:10] <Gallomimia> ailion: you mean it worked to begin with? that's amazing
[02:10] <Gallomimia> i was going to do that. i had an ati card
[02:11] <Xali> he can still use a proprietary driver over ubuntu
[02:11] <Xali> mine does
[02:11] <Gallomimia> the ati card was a manufacturer overclocked thing that didn't work right with the drivers. changing options caused X to crash
[02:11] <Gallomimia> which meant all my open programs died also. might as well reboot at that point
[02:12] <ailion> Gallomimia, It worked in 14.04. I was doing pass-through via KVM.
[02:12] <Gallomimia> so annoying :( still won't load
[02:13] <styles> I posted this last night. For the last few nights I've been trying to resolve why my other monitors aren't picked up by the open source driver: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2321572 any ideas would be appreciated
[02:13] <Gallomimia> ahhh so running the ati card for a VM?
[02:13] <claudia> hello
[02:13] <Gallomimia> hi
[02:14] <Defiance_> \0
[02:14] <Gallomimia> hablas espanol?
[02:14] <Omnicrom> Xali: any ideas for me?
[02:14] <claudia> I installed Ubuntu Mate 16.04 and I want to see the Software Boutique into a different language from English. How can I do it ?
[02:15] <claudia> Gallomimia : si hablo espanol y tu ?
[02:15] <ailion> Gallomimia,  Yes, I have dual Xeon X5650 and I'm trying to make it work for "1 CPU 2 Gamers".
[02:15] <Gallomimia> no.
[02:15] <Gallomimia> !es | claudia
[02:15] <claudia> buhh
[02:15] <LinuxGUy2020> I was reading about using snapcraft to create snap packages. Can it be used to convert debs that are already installed to a snap package? If the answer is yes, is there a good tutorial somewhere for that?
[02:15] <Gallomimia> but all the people in that channel do. and i bet they'd know how to change languages. something i don't know
[02:15] <claudia> I know I know and  I speak English  dude
[02:16] <Gallomimia> ailion: oh yeah that's cool. i want to do that also. but i was going to use multiseat
[02:16] <Gallomimia> 2 monitors, 1 gpu
[02:16] <claudia> Thanks Gallomimia
[02:16] <Gallomimia> claudia: sorry i don't know the answer tho.
[02:17] <claudia> anyone running ubuntu mate 16.04 here ??
[02:17] <Gallomimia> i assume you're the same claudia who came thru a few weeks ago
[02:17] <claudia> no I am not that Claudia
[02:17] <Gallomimia> oh well
[02:17] <ailion> Gallomimia, I'll Google multiseat.
[02:17] <claudia> in fact Claudia is my wife lol
[02:17] <davido> claudia, are you aware of #ubuntu-mate ?
[02:18] <claudia> awhh  good one
[02:18] <claudia> I didn't know of #ubuntu-mate channel}
[02:18] <Gallomimia> it's not an easy thing to set up i think ailion. i've had tons of problems to fix in advance of that
[02:18] <claudia> I will look for it
[02:18] <ailion> Gallomimia, Anyway, I will remove the GTX650 card and see what happens.
[02:18] <davido> type /join #ubuntu-mate
[02:18] <claudia> thanks :)  see u guys
[02:18] <akku> wow real time drama
[02:19] <bobby_> does anyone here know what happened to the software center disappearing in 16.04?
[02:19] <ailion> Gallomimia, the easiest way I believe is ESXi, however, Nvidia hates ESXi.
[02:20] <Gallomimia> ...great :/
[02:20] <ailion> I should have bought two AMD cards. So sad
[02:20] <jesuslovesyouthi> On 14.04 : Other than bad code, is there any obvious reason I get this : http://imgur.com/OTQGJgw when I click the submit button?
[02:20] <davido> bobby_ is your issue that Software Center disappeared, or that it was replaced with Ubuntu Software?
[02:20] <akku> why u want nvidia on esx?
[02:21] <Apocope> Is anyone running ZFS on root? I've tried following the instructions here: https://github.com/rlaager/zfs/wiki/HOWTO-install-Ubuntu-to-a-Native-ZFS-Root-Filesystem but my computer then says there's no OS installed.
[02:22] <bobby_> devido: it used to be here on my pull down menu but someone said it was replaced in xenial as something 'different' but better' and I can't locate it
[02:22] <davido> It's now called Ubuntu Software.
[02:22] <bobby_> under system?
[02:23] <akku> zfs is great for servers, no lvm/md hassle
[02:23] <ailion> Ubuntu Software is buggy.
[02:23] <akku> otherwsie it sux
[02:23] <davido> It should reside in your launcher by default.  Or hit your super key and type 'software'. Probably will see it then.
[02:24] <bobby_> what super key? :)
[02:24] <ailion> It shows I have installed vim, but I don't.
[02:25] <davido> bobby_ do you not have a launcher either at the left or the bottom of your screen?
[02:25] <bobby_> no I run gnome 2 metacity
[02:26] <akku> ubuntu is a shite copy of debian
[02:26] <cfhowlett> akku, enough.
[02:26] <davido> bobby_ In a terminal try typing ubuntu-software
[02:27] <akku> rtty
[02:27] <Gallomimia> init: dovecot main process (1967) terminated with status 89
[02:27] <Gallomimia> what??
[02:27] <cfhowlett> you are free to use any OS you like.  want debian?  use it.  but have enough sense and courtesy not to bring your trolling comments to this channel.
[02:27] <bobby_> ahh haa! thanks davido!
[02:27] <davido> yw
[02:27] <akku> man i can tell u my points
[02:28] <akku> ppa's are the worst thing ever
[02:28] <davido> but why would you; this is a support channel, not a "debate the merits of various distributions" channel.
[02:28] <jesuslovesyouthi> Both files are in the same folder and the perms are -rwxrwxr-x
[02:28] <jesuslovesyouthi> any help?
[02:28] <cfhowlett> akku, take it to #ubuntu-offtopic.  this is the support channel not the akku rant channel
[02:28] <akku> relax homie
[02:29] <davido> jesuslovesyouthi What's the question?
[02:29] <jesuslovesyouthi> cfhowlett:  dunno when they made that channel but I'm soooooo glad someone finally did!
[02:29] <jesuslovesyouthi> ty
[02:30] <jesuslovesyouthi> davido: you can pm me or meet me in ubuntu-offtopic, ok? Don't wanna rock the boat over here  :)
[02:30] <cfhowlett> it's been there awhile jesuslovesyouthi.  perfect spot of discussions / debates of that type and allows us to focus here
[02:30] <blackdragon69> Hello everyone
[02:31] <davido> jesuslovesyouthi : I'm happy to try to answer a question here. But I'm not really interested in meeting off-channel for idle banter.
[02:31] <akku> it may be ot: did u OSX guys ever try the AES ni accelleration? i mean before-after capitan? I had a big laugh....
[02:31] <Gallomimia> jesuslovesyouthi: talking about files and permissions in this channel is very appropriate.
[02:31] <cfhowlett> akku OSX is also off-topic here.  as you know.
[02:31] <jesuslovesyouthi> cfhowlett: I never knew about anything like it (and I"m the offtopic king - believe me I've been through hell n back over it)
[02:31] <akku> no its not
[02:31] <Gallomimia> yes.
[02:31] <Gallomimia> it is.
[02:32] <cfhowlett> !topic | akku
[02:32] <blackdragon69> Hello everyone, any suggestions on how to start as a freelance software developer if you have done some projects and school work ?
[02:32] <jesuslovesyouthi> Gallomimia: sometimes it's a mix (I'm learining php coding but then theres sys admin stuff that get's involve : "do I have the right stuff installed, right perms,, etc ... ?")
[02:32] <akku> n00b. bench ssl  ubuntu 14.04 vs. osx yose vs. el capitan
[02:33] <cfhowlett> blackdragon69, this is the tech support channel.  please take your query to #ubuntu-offtopic         might also ask in #linux
[02:33] <akku> ubuntu/yose are fine
[02:33] <blackdragon69> sorry
[02:33] <cfhowlett> no worries, blackdragon69
[02:33] <akku> capitan cracked down to like 120MB
[02:33] <Gallomimia> not going to try capitan.
[02:34] <akku> yeah anyway
[02:34] <Gallomimia> i have yosemite running now. i also have ubuntu installed in dual boot. but not using it actively yet
[02:34] <akku> i have ubuntu on my NB. SSL (AES) is at 600MB
[02:34] <Gallomimia> still trying to fix the desktop machine which is pure ubuntu. i want to do something to sync up my home folder
[02:34] <akku> as it as with yose
[02:34] <akku> but apple badly broke it
[02:35] <Gallomimia> what else is new
[02:35] <Gallomimia> feature regression in osx is why i use ubuntu
[02:35] <akku> well
[02:35] <jesuslovesyouthi> they sure as heck aren't gonna let me start a question with "On 14.04 ..." over in #programming so I'm screwed there
[02:35] <Gallomimia> i don't actually understand what youre talking about tho
[02:35] <BenderRodriguez> I think I completely corrupted my mysql server
[02:35] <akku> mysql sux
[02:35] <BenderRodriguez> I can neither install uninstall or reinstall it
[02:35] <BenderRodriguez> akku, thanks for your opinion
[02:35] <akku> postgres rulez
[02:36] <Gallomimia> #programming would be a good place for blackdragon69 to go
[02:36] <BCB> just lost connection to my server updating /etc/network/interfaces  Now I can't reconnect.  any suggestions.  Thank you.
[02:36] <Driiper> what is the command for configuring openstack on 16.04?
[02:36] <Driiper> sudo openstack-install does not work
[02:36] <jesuslovesyouthi> Gallomimia: they're a real lovely bunch  :)
[02:36] <akku> mysql sux at multi joins
[02:37] <akku> its not an oppinion
[02:37] <Gallomimia> BCB uh... the only suggestion i have is to get access to a serial console simulator thru your provider. it sounds like your server is hooped regarding network access
[02:37] <BenderRodriguez> any ideas?
[02:37] <akku> the optimizer is just crap
[02:37] <Bashing-om> BenderRodriguez: 16.04 ? Did you read the release notes ?
[02:37] <BenderRodriguez> Bashing-om, hell no. What did they break?
[02:37] <hp> i
[02:38] <hp> hi
[02:38] <hp> speak spanish
[02:38] <akku> claro tio
[02:38] <Bashing-om> BenderRodriguez: A new way of mysql'n .
[02:38] <cfhowlett> !es | hp
[02:38] <jesuslovesyouthi> Seems as if no one knows (yet) in #ubuntu-offtopic (anyone would want to entertain a php related question for 14.04 - why its not executing the file?)
[02:38] <BenderRodriguez> yep
[02:38] <BenderRodriguez> they broke mysql
[02:38] <BenderRodriguez> christ
[02:38] <BenderRodriguez> ok...
[02:38] <BenderRodriguez> brb in a bit
[02:38] <BenderRodriguez> going to go have a drink
[02:38] <Gallomimia> heh
[02:38] <hp> tengo un problema al actualizar lubuntu no puedo acceder a windows 10
[02:39] <Gallomimia> the solution to broken mysql is drinking :)
[02:39] <cfhowlett> !es > hp
[02:39] <BCB> Gallomimia: any pointers on how to do that.  I'm afraid my provider may not know how to do that
[02:39] <Gallomimia> !es | hp
[02:39] <Gallomimia> uups
[02:39] <akku> no nos hablas de windows porfi
[02:39] <Gallomimia> BCB: if you don't already have access to it, you're probably left with nuking your install and starting with a fresh image
[02:40] <Gallomimia> this i know because i've done it :(
[02:40] <akku> ?
[02:40] <akku> wtf
[02:41] <hp> porfa actualize a lubuntu 16.04 y no puedo iniciar windows que hago porfavor
[02:41] <Gallomimia> !es | hp
[02:41] <cfhowlett> hp vamos tu #ubuntu-es
[02:41] <Gallomimia> seul inglis hombre
[02:41] <akku> pk windows no esta cojonudo de verdad!
[02:41] <akku> es una mierda!
[02:42] <Gallomimia> Bashing-om: well. at least the version mismatch we were looking at is closer. they're only off by 1 now!
[02:42] <hp> akku es verdad windows es una mierda pero necesito igual acceder a el
[02:42] <akku> claro bueno yo tambien lo tengo para jugar pero bueno...
[02:43] <akku> no soy un experto lo siento
[02:46] <BenderRodriguez> am I unquieted now
[02:46] <BenderRodriguez> ok good. I'm getting this: /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: mysql-server-5.7 is broken or not fully installed. How do I fix
[02:46] <Bashing-om> Gallomimia: I will be interested in the solution !
[02:47] <akku> mysql  vs maria
[02:47] <akku> who wins?
[02:48] <Gallomimia> akku didn't you already get warned about being offtopic?
[02:49] <akku> fucku
[02:49] <akku> ciao
[02:49] <cfhowlett> Gallomimia, he's made it pretty clear he doesn't respect the channel guidelines
[02:49] <Gallomimia> yep
[02:49] <Gallomimia> did he leave on his own?
[02:50] <cfhowlett> ignore on hexchat is one solution
[02:50] <Gallomimia> hm. no...
[02:50] <BCB> Gallomimia: ouch!  I was trying to add additional ips to a single nic.  Any suggestions on how to do that properly.
[02:53] <Gallomimia> uh. i eventually got help from the provider when doing that. lost the config since
[02:53] <Gallomimia> i had things grouped nicely so they'd look pretty. but the provider ungrouped them and put them in a certain order
[03:00] <fodason> i cant log in to skype, even tough the username and password are correct, Why ?
[03:02] <cfhowlett> fodason, have to ask microsoft for support of their program
[03:02] <fodason> #microsoft
[03:03] <fodason> what chanel ?
[03:03] <cfhowlett> skype.microsoft.com
[03:03] <fodason> #skype.microsoft.com
[03:04] <fodason> cfhowlett ??
[03:04] <cfhowlett> website, amigo.  go to the website.
[03:04] <BCB> I'm trying to assign multiple ip to a single nic in ubuntu.   can anyone give the the proper aliasing scheme.   This work but it says it is "legacy" :  http://askubuntu.com/questions/474298/multiple-ips-on-different-subnets-on-one-interface
[03:06] <davido> http://askubuntu.com/a/547300
[03:06] <fodason> cfhowlett , are you sure it have nothing to do with my ubuntu ???
[03:06] <cfhowlett> skype is made by and supported by microsoft.  skype doesn't work for you.  do the math
[03:06] <BCB> davido: I tried that and lost ALL connections.  Had to have support restore thorugh serial port
[03:07] <davido> lol. sorry then, BCB :)
[03:07] <BCB> davido: I usually come her after i've exahusted my googlefu
[03:07] <davido> foadason : There is nothing built into ubuntu to prevent skype from working. However, skype could be buggy, at which point you're back to needing microsoft support.
[03:09] <virgosun> hi , 16.04 broadwell freq scale not work, always max speed
[03:14] <BCB> * networking
[03:16] <Xark> "Ubuntu's not done, till Skype won't run" - kidding. :)
[03:20] <rud0lf> actually, my skype cam was giving 2 fps on trusty, with xenial it's back to normal
[03:24] <Gallomimia> Bashing-om, or anyone: i'm guessing i have to update the package containing evdev. called: xserver-xorg-input-evdev
[03:24] <Gallomimia> i'm not sure how.
[03:24] <Gallomimia> anyone got suggestion?
[03:24] <devslash_> how do I force ubuntu to update to 16.04 ?
[03:25] <[Saint]> do-system-upgrade
[03:27] <Bashing-om> !info xserver-xorg-input-evdev trusty
[03:27] <Gallomimia> Package xorg-input-abi-21 is a virtual package provided by:
[03:27] <Gallomimia>   xserver-xorg-core-lts-wily 2:1.17.2-1ubuntu9.1~trusty1
[03:27] <Gallomimia>   xserver-xorg-core-lts-vivid 2:1.17.1-0ubuntu3.1~trusty1
[03:27] <Gallomimia>   xserver-xorg-core-lts-utopic 2:1.16.0-1ubuntu1.2~trusty2
[03:27] <Gallomimia> asks me to select one explicitly
[03:27] <Gallomimia> sorry about the lines of spam
[03:27] <Bashing-om> Gallomimia: What kernel are upi on now ? ' uname -r ' .
[03:27] <Gallomimia> 4.2something
[03:28] <Gallomimia> 4.2.0-35-generic
[03:28] <Bashing-om> !info linux-image-gemeric wily
[03:29] <Bashing-om> !info linux-image-generic wily
[03:29] <Gallomimia> so, wily it is?
[03:29] <Bashing-om> Gallomimia: Yup .
[03:30] <Gallomimia> !info xserver-xorg-core-lts-wily
[03:30] <Gallomimia> no extra info :/
[03:31] <Gallomimia> wow. that's a lot of packages getting removed
[03:31] <Bashing-om> Gallomimia: Maybe get the info you need ' apt-cache show xserver-xorg-core-lts-wily ' in terminal .
[03:32] <xieyi> I just upgraded to ubuntu 16.04. I met a problem with my broadcom 4313 wireless adapter. the kernel module used to be loaded automatically
[03:32] <xieyi> but currently I have to modprobe manually
[03:32] <xieyi> I cant find /etc/modules file
[03:33] <xieyi> how do I setup the auto loaded module files
[03:33] <Gallomimia> Bashing-om: that's a lot of info but nothing i understand
[03:33] <Gallomimia> the install met with an error
[03:33] <xieyi> is the /etc/modules file obsoleted in the new version of ubuntu
[03:34] <Gallomimia> error: rename involves overwriting `/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/old.libgbm.so.1.0.0' with different file `/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgbm.so.1.0.0', not allowed
[03:34] <Gallomimia> 0o
[03:35] <Gallomimia> should i just remove that file?
[03:37] <Bashing-om> Gallomimia: What are you installing . I see what I can find out .
[03:38] <Gallomimia> the lts-wily
[03:38] <Gallomimia> xserver-xorg-core-lts-wily
[03:39] <Gallomimia> just want to fix that version mismatch
[03:39] <Rhorse> xieyi: systemd?
[03:40] <Rhorse> Do you have a /etc/modules-load.d dir?
[03:40] <xieyi> Rhorse: I added brcmsmac module to /etc/modules file
[03:40] <xieyi> but the module is not loaded every time I boot
[03:40] <xieyi> I found the directory
[03:41] <Rhorse> modules-load.d?
[03:41] <xieyi> the modules file is there. I didnt find it
[03:41] <xieyi> yeah modules-load.d directory too
[03:41] <xieyi> they are there
[03:42] <Bashing-om> Gallomimia: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=libgbm.so.1.0.0&mode=filename&suite=wily&arch=any .. replace it ?
[03:42] <Rhorse> make a file called my_modules.conf in modules-load.d. Then put each module on it's own line that you want loaded...
[03:43] <Gallomimia> i'm not sure what you mean by replace it
[03:43] <xieyi> Rhorse: I have a file called modules.conf in /etc/modules-load.d. it contains the line of brcmsmac
[03:43] <Gallomimia> the two files it talks about? move one over the other?
[03:43] <Rhorse> xieyi: is the module enabled in your kernel?
[03:44] <xieyi> how to enable it?
[03:44] <xieyi> the module is loaded automatically in the last version
[03:44] <xieyi> 15.10
[03:44] <xieyi> I never disable anything.
[03:45] <Gallomimia> Bashing-om: i dont quite understand the error i pasted. it's trying to overwrite a file called old.something with the something? why is it overwriting the old file??
[03:45] <ulkesh> Just installed Ubuntu 16.04, anyone know how to have the launcher icons animate after clicking on an icon to load the app? Unity Tweak Tool shows it's set to pulse, but nothing is happening with the icon.
[03:45] <Gallomimia> or have i got it the wrong way round
[03:45] <Bashing-om> Gallomimia: Lots I do not know .. see: 'apt list libgbm1' . libgbm.so.1.0.0 is provided by that package .
[03:46] <Bashing-om> Gallomimia: Why it is overwriting is above my skill set .. wants to make way for newer version is all I can think of .
[03:47] <Gallomimia> comparing timestamps, the not-old one is from the 21st of this month, and the old one is january
[03:48] <Rhorse> xieyi: The cleanest way to remove the proprietary STA driver is to make sure that the packages broadcom-sta-common, broadcom-sta-source and bcmwl-kernel-source are removed from the system. Do this with the Software Center or apt-get.
[03:48] <Rhorse> Then you should be good to go.
[03:49] <Bashing-om> Gallomimia: what returns ' apt-cache policy libgbm1 ' Bet ya want to upgrade it to wily .
[03:49] <xieyi> OK, I am trying it. thx
[03:50] <Gallomimia> i wish i knew what it meant what it returns...
[03:50] <Gallomimia> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16020338/
[03:51] <riffautae> Apocope: yeah i have zfs on root
[03:51] <Bashing-om> Gallomimia: I get an inling of a notion  of what is going on ' apt-cache depends libgbm1 ' .
[03:51] <Apocope> riffautae: Was there a guide you followed?
[03:52] <riffautae> Apocope: his instructions are for efi your system might not support booting that way
[03:52] <Lucie20> Picture of me naked: http://imagetwist.com/1hedff9hr76f/Lucie.jpg  Would you fuck me? :)
[03:52] <Lucie20> Picture of me naked: http://imagetwist.com/1hedff9hr76f/Lucie.jpg  Would you fuck me? :)
[03:52] <riffautae> Apocope: sorta followed a bunch of them because my zpool already existed
[03:52] <Gallomimia> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16020346/
[03:52] <Gallomimia> for some reason a bunch of mesa stuff got installed
[03:53] <Apocope> riffautae: My system is not setup for efi, but I'm pretty sure there's instructions for legacy in there, too.
[03:53] <bohm4> What is happening to this room?
[03:53] <Lucie20> Picture of me naked: http://imagetwist.com/1hedff9hr76f/Lucie.jpg  Would you fuck me? :)
[03:53] <Lucie20> Picture of me naked: http://imagetwist.com/1hedff9hr76f/Lucie.jpg  Would you fuck me? :)
[03:53] <riffautae> Apocope: i used the grub that came in 16.04 and set root=ZFS=zroot/mydataset in /etc/defaults/grub
[03:53] <riffautae> Apocope: then did grub-install psure
[03:53] <riffautae> i installed it on all of my drives. prob do grub update before install
[03:53] <Apocope> riffautae: Not using efi?
[03:53] <riffautae> Apocope: no
[03:54] <Apocope> riffautae: Ok thanks. I'll give that a try.
[03:54] <Gallomimia> Bashing-om: i tried removing that old. file (just moved it) and reran apt-get -f install
[03:55] <Gallomimia> still gives the same file
[03:55] <Gallomimia> error.
[03:57] <Bashing-om> Gallomimia: As to libgbm1 : that says that the trusty version is installed .. and that is what the package manager wants to install. But ... looking at ' apt-cache depends libgbm1 ; apt-cache rdepends libgbm1 ' I have my doubts as you are installing the wily HWE stack for X .
[03:58] <Gallomimia> well, i'm not sure i care what gets installed. i just want the input manager to match the version of the x server
[03:58] <Gallomimia> it seems a simple desire
[04:00] <Gallomimia> Bashing-om: i think i missed a step in the kernel update. followed server and not desktop
[04:01] <Gallomimia> uh. well it won't go cause of this broken package
[04:01] <Bashing-om> Gallomimia: Did you (observe carefully) sudo apt-get install --install-recommends linux-generic-lts-wily xserver-xorg-core-lts-wily xserver-xorg-lts-wily xserver-xorg-video-all-lts-wily xserver-xorg-input-all-lts-wily libwayland-egl1-mesa-lts-wily ' ???
[04:02] <smarttang> hello :)
[04:02] <Gallomimia> no. that's on my clipboard to go now soon as i get apt to behave
[04:03] <Gallomimia> yup. i broke it.
[04:03] <Gallomimia> everything i try tells me to use -f to fix packages. using -f does nothing
[04:03] <Bashing-om> Gallomimia: We break it .. we pick up the pieces and put it back together .. that is the ubuntu way .
[04:04] <Gallomimia> i'm not far from taking a snapshot of the root LV and installing 16.04
[04:04] <Bashing-om> Gallomimia: There are those times we must tell the system explicitly how to heal it's self .
[04:05] <Gallomimia> right. so, i have to do that now. apt is in a broken state cause i can't get that package out
[04:05] <chaoz> hello does anyone know how to fix kwin crashing every 5 seconds i think its a setting or something but im also having plasma problems on my second monitor. i have a amd 5450 and i know the driver should be working right im on 16.04.
[04:06] <Bashing-om> Gallomimia: K .. Ley's look at that .. pastebin ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ; sudo apt-get -f install ' see what I can make of it .
[04:06] <Gallomimia> apt without the -get?
[04:07] <Bashing-om> Gallomimia: Yeah .. that is the new super duper apt-get .. a bit smarter .. and added functions .
[04:09] <rud0lf> it has a progress bar
[04:09] <rud0lf> it's green and cute
[04:09] <ToeSnacks> Is it more or less feature rich than aptitude?
[04:10] <Gallomimia> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16020521/
[04:10] <Bashing-om> Gallomimia: look'n .
[04:15] <Village> Hello Guys,
[04:15] <DontBanMeBro> sup
[04:15] <Village> when i try run eggdrop i get CANNOT FORK PROCESS whats can be wrong?
[04:16] <rud0lf> some quota has been hit?
[04:17] <Bashing-om> Gallomimia: What was it I said an hour ago ? Package manager agrees .. try : ' sudo apt install libgbm1-lts-wily ' . :)
[04:18] <Gallomimia> well i don't recall what was said an hour ago unfortunately but...
[04:18] <Gallomimia> that returns an error too
[04:18] <Gallomimia> which i can't read. my terminal went wonky
[04:18] <Village> rud0lf, hm i don't think so, it's free GBs
[04:19] <Gallomimia> it ends in returned error code 1
[04:19] <Gallomimia> oh that's cause its apt and not apt-get
[04:19] <Village> rud0lf, i add more RAM and it's going:)
[04:20] <rud0lf> hmm weird, egghelp.org is down
[04:20] <Bashing-om> Gallomimia: Oh I was trying to make light in a bad situation ... ok .. we go deeper .. show me the new error situation . ( /var/cache/apt/archives/libgbm1-lts-wily_11.0.2-1ubuntu4~trusty1_amd64.deb --- unhappy ! )
[04:20] <Gallomimia> Bashing-om: i'd really like to get that particular package out of the system so i can do that big long desktop install list
[04:21] <Bashing-om> Gallomimia: Nothing wrong with trying to remove it .  .. Package manager may say it is not installed though .
[04:21] <Gallomimia> except the package manager simply reports more errors
[04:22] <Bashing-om> Gallomimia: Well ,, we give the PM a bit of help .
[04:23] <Gallomimia> everything i do says some problem: do -f install to fix.
[04:23] <Gallomimia> which results in the same error as before
[04:24] <Bashing-om> Gallomimia: But the -f is not able to fix .. we got to tell the system what to do .
[04:24] <Gallomimia> DELETE
[04:24] <Gallomimia> that's what it should do ><
[04:24] <lee_G750jm> i do not understand the meaning of this WARNING: CPU: 2 PID: 2870 at /build/linux-lts-wily-H6pWeh/linux-lts-wily-4.2.0/net/wireless/sme.c:981 cfg80211_connect+0x206/0x230 [cfg80211]() is there someone that can explain
[04:25] <Bashing-om> Gallomimia: Uh Huh .. so tell it to delete . We have the technology .. and a software repository; we can rebuild .
[04:25] <Gallomimia> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[04:25] <Gallomimia>  nvidia-364 : Depends: xorg-video-abi-11 but it is not installable or
[04:25] <Gallomimia> 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19
[04:26] <Gallomimia> and 20
[04:27] <Bashing-om> Gallomimia: Ouch // version 364 and 361 installed .. and we have a driver conflict among all the other issues . We will get it sorted out .. given the time and effort .
[04:28] <Gallomimia> oh.
[04:28] <Gallomimia> attempting to remove either gives error
[04:28] <Gallomimia> unmet dependencies: xserver-xorg-core-lts-wily
[04:29] <Gallomimia> can i get it to bypass dependencies?
[04:29] <Gallomimia> i can't get it to go forwards or backwards from this point due to dependencies
[04:30] <Bashing-om> Gallomimia: So. if ya want .. show the error and we see what we can finger out .. going down rabbit holes is good for the soul . Time and effort !
[04:30] <Gallomimia> i summarized it ^
[04:31] <Bashing-om> Gallomimia: we work down to the bottom of the dependency train .. and work our way back up .
[04:31] <Gallomimia> Package 'nvidia-361' is not installed
[04:31] <Gallomimia> so, no that's not in there
[04:31] <Gallomimia> i installed 364 as an attempt to get the versions to upgrade
[04:32] <Bashing-om> Gallomimia: For now I do suggest a focus on the X layer's stack .
[04:32] <Gallomimia> installing a new version of nvidia autoremoves the old. impossible to get both installed
[04:33] <Gallomimia> ah here we go
[04:34] <Gallomimia> i removed nvidia-364 and the wily xorg in one command. it's doing something
[04:34] <Gallomimia> don't care what it's doing :P as long as its not spitting out errors
[04:35] <Gallomimia> ok. now i'm going to do that long string of install under the desktop heading. and an nvidia package. do you suggest 361 or 364 Bashing-om ?
[04:36] <Bashing-om> Gallomimia: :) .. tight wrong or otherwise, do something . .. Nvidia said 361 .
[04:36] <Gallomimia> k
[04:37] <Gallomimia> yup. that resulted in the same old error
[04:37] <Gallomimia> old.libgbm.so.1.0.0
[04:39] <ailion> I'm back.
[04:40] <ailion> I unplugged my AMD HD7850, then X crashed after the login screen.
[04:41] <ailion> So I reinstalled Ubuntu 16.04 LTS.
[04:41] <Gallomimia> Bashing-om: moved forward with: https://www.mail-archive.com/desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net/msg440017.html
[04:42] <Gallomimia> i can't use the original list of packages i was going to install cause it just gives the same error
[04:42] <Gallomimia> there has to be some other stuff i can install
[04:42] <Gallomimia> er, need to install
[04:43] <Bashing-om> Gallomimia: look'n .
[04:43] <Gallomimia> think i got it. i went back to that list and removed the xorg core
[04:45] <Gallomimia> oh :( no it's back to that same error. bollocks
[04:45] <ailion> This is how I solve the AMD driver problem on Ubuntu 16.04 LTS: http://www.picpaste.com/IMG_0457-fdohC4EW.JPG
[04:46] <Gallomimia> haha
[04:46] <Gallomimia> yeah me too ailion
[04:46] <Gallomimia> except i gave it to someone rather than throwing out
[04:47] <ailion> Gallomimia,  I believe this is the best solution.
[04:47] <Bashing-om> Gallomimia: K .. and when you run the sudo apt-get install --install-recommends x stack sequence .. see what the package manager requires . // Not to be unfeeling .. but well past my bed time .. I am tired and calling it .. getting difficult for me to think clearly .
[04:48] <Gallomimia> yeah. find some poor windows user who can use it at least
[04:48] <Gallomimia> i agree Bashing-om. i need to stop also
[04:48] <Gallomimia> thanks for your help so far
[04:49] <Bashing-om> Gallomimia: More than happy to pick this back up in our AM .. I am 4 hours ahead of you time wise ( GMT -5 ) .
[04:49] <Gallomimia> ouch
[04:49] <Gallomimia> yeah it's 10pm here
[04:50] <Gallomimia> actually i'm only -7 during daylight savings
[04:50] <VinceVon> gmt 0 here, still working away, you casuals
[04:50] <VinceVon> :D
[04:50] <Bashing-om> Gallomimia: K .. we do thjis more later .. G night.
[04:51] <Gallomimia> ta, cheers
[04:52] <VinceVon> guys, this is happening on my apache server on ubuntu only, I can access my local machine through localhost, but not by any ip address (127.0.0.1, 192.168.1.6, [::1])
[04:52] <VinceVon> I had gufw, turned it off
[04:52] <VinceVon> can anyone give me any pointers here?
[04:52] <VinceVon> apache is Listen 80
[04:53] <ailion> Gallomimia, what problem have you met?
[04:53] <Gallomimia> ailion: seems to be some kind of version mismatch in the xserver and it's input module
[04:53] <Gallomimia> causes lockup
[04:54] <ailion> Version mismatch?
[04:56] <Gallomimia> yeah the xorg.log shows version 20 for the input module and 21 for the server
[04:56] <Gallomimia> it used to be 16 and 19
[04:56] <Gallomimia> so, i've made progress i guess
[04:57] <ailion> I don't know Xorg too much. Hope someone else can help you.
[04:58] <ailion> I
[04:58] <Gallomimia> this morning when i woke up the damn thing wouldn't even prompt for passphrase to unlock the drive at boot time
[04:58] <Gallomimia> https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Multiseat_Configuration/evdev
[04:58] <ailion> I'm downgrading to 14.04.
[04:58] <Gallomimia> found this by the way today
[04:59] <Gallomimia> while i was trying to fix this
[04:59] <Gallomimia> ah. alas. there are no release downgrades :( you'll need a clean install
[04:59] <ailion> A clean install won't be a big deal.
[05:00] <ailion> I have 2 SSDs and 2 HDDs
[05:00] <Gallomimia> yes they're handy
[05:00] <Gallomimia> i have 3x 2TB drives in a raid5
[05:01] <Gallomimia> and i want to marry them to my 2 SSD's in a raid0 as a dm-cache
[05:01] <Gallomimia> but that's a whole nother kettle of fish
[05:01] <Gallomimia> firstly because they're samsung EVO 840's and require a firmware upgrade under linux
[05:01] <Gallomimia> which samsung only provides for windows :P
[05:02] <Gallomimia> and second because i don't know how to do the dm-cache thing
[05:02] <Gallomimia> it sounded like a great idea at the time
[05:11] <citizen_> play a multiplay game of tron with me in command line interface. - ssh sshtron.zachlatta.com
[05:12] <lotuspsychje> citizen_: better in #gamingonlinux
[05:21] <Zythyr> I am unable to access samba share from widnows that I created on Ubuntu. I get permission denied. How do I fix?
[05:21] <tom_> hi
[05:22] <Guest50977> what is a good Working weather applet for mint?
[05:23] <lotuspsychje> !mint | Guest50977
[05:23] <Guest50977> weather crapped out on me
[05:23] <cfhowlett> !mint | Guest50977,
[05:23] <Guest50977> ok thanks
[05:27] <m0dd3r> hi
[05:28] <m0dd3r> i have 172.16.4.15:netbios-ssn
[05:28] <m0dd3r> connection established
[05:29] <m0dd3r> at port 55562
[05:29] <m0dd3r> am i been hacked ?
[05:30] <m0dd3r> i have 172.16.4.15:netbios-ssn
[05:31] <m0dd3r> connection established
[05:31] <m0dd3r> at port 55562 am i been hacked ?
[05:31] <m0dd3r> help needed
[05:31] <cfhowlett> !patience | m0dd3r,
[05:40] <hipitihop> When I open any updater or synaptic, I get the error "Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/au.archive.ubunt..." and then an app crash. any pointers to reset this situation
[05:44] <hipitihop> For the benefit of other, resolved via: sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/* -vf && sudo apt-get update
[06:00] <Nimma> I need a tutorial for creating repository for 16.04 with apt-mirror.
[06:00] <cfhowlett> !mirror
[06:07] <cfhowlett> Nimma, https://www.howtoforge.com/local_debian_ubuntu_mirror
[06:08] <Nimma> cfhowlett: Is it old? (It is about Ubuntu Edgy)
[06:09] <Nimma> cfhowlett: another question, what about snapy packages?
[06:09] <cfhowlett> Nimma, google terms: ubuntu + custom + mirror
[06:25] <meisam> hi
[06:25] <the_last_one> hello
[06:25] <meisam> i want combo list for psn
[06:26] <netz> question. can someone tell me what dpkg-reconfigure xkb-data does exactly on an *buntu system? I've modified a keymap but the changes seem to not take
[06:26] <baizon> netz: it loads the default configuration of that package
[06:27] <baizon> netz: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/precise/man8/dpkg-reconfigure.8.html
[06:28] <meisam> How can I get a combo get to
[06:28] <netz> baizon: yes, I'm aware of what it does for the most part, but I mean, for each thing you do it against it does different things. I mean, exactly what is the result of that for xkb-data
[06:28] <meisam> for psn
[06:28] <meisam> to kali
[06:30] <cfhowlett> !kali | psn
[06:31] <meisam> ok
[06:31] <meisam> tnx
[06:31] <meisam> bye
[06:34] <muculus> by KVM virtualization I have packet loss on guest machine, and I have no packet loss on Host. Any idea?
[06:44] <flux242> 16.04 mini iso's arent yet available?
[06:45] <cfhowlett> !mini
[06:49] <baizon> flux242: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/xenial/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/mini.iso
[06:52] <DGUERRERO> Good day everyone, I'm having problems installing 16.04 on a laptop Asus x550c with an USB created with dd, after installation has finished without problems I'm unable to see the hard disk as boot option in the bios
[06:52] <flux242> that'a a daily build?
[06:53] <DGUERRERO> No, final release, md5 sum ok
[06:54] <flux242> ok, thanks
[06:57] <Yuri6037> Hey all
[06:57] <Yuri6037> I'm planing to install a Dual Boot Win7/Ubuntu
[06:59] <Yuri6037> I have three Hard disks, 1 is for Windows system, the second one is for shared data between both systems (no system things in it) and the last one is empty and should be dedicated 500GB for linux Ubuntu. Is it possible to install Ubuntu for that dedicated HDD ?
[07:00] <baizon> Yuri6037: yes it is
[07:00] <wafflej0ck> DGUERRERO, not sure what you're running into there but might want to post some BIOS details if you can find them too
[07:01] <Yuri6037> Now if I add the fact that unfortunatly my BIOS is recent and my GPU too, first the BIOS is set as forced UEFI and Secure Boot those can not be disabled so dual boot must work with UEFI secure boot
[07:02] <Yuri6037> And now GPU is GTX 650 TI DirectCU 2 2GB which has no drivers for linux based systems nor Mac
[07:02] <slaffe> hm
[07:02] <cfhowlett> Yuri6037, yep.  use the "something else" installation option and think before you click.
[07:02] <slaffe> why wont apt-get update alert me of the latest release?
[07:02] <slaffe> do I need to run dist-upgrade to get that?
[07:03] <auronandace> !dist-upgrade | slaffe
[07:03] <Yuri6037> Ok so I should be able to install Ubuntu by booting through my SATA BlueRay burner ?
[07:03] <Yuri6037> Or do I need extra steps to make it working ?
[07:04] <wafflej0ck> Yuri6037, USB not an option?
[07:04] <slaffe> !dist-upgrade
[07:04] <slaffe> !upgrade
[07:04] <Yuri6037> I only have a few USB drives
[07:04] <wafflej0ck> Yuri6037, it would probably work from the external drive too I imagine but think USB is the "regular" way, no worries then
[07:04] <slaffe> thank you
[07:05] <Yuri6037> the HDD is not external it's internal
[07:05] <Yuri6037> I would like if possible to boot directly from this already partitioned in NTFS HDD because my BIOS already alows me to do that
[07:06] <slaffe> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes does not show upgrading from 14.06 to 16.06, why is that?
[07:06] <slaffe> latest is From 14.10 to 15.04
[07:06] <auronandace> slaffe: it doesn't become available until 16.04.1
[07:06] <Yuri6037> But are you sure Ubuntu can boot and will not be blocked by BIOS ?
[07:06] <wafflej0ck> slaffe, think probably when 16.04.1 comes out that will be updated
[07:06] <slaffe> ermm. From 13.10 to 14.04 LTS
[07:06] <slaffe> aha
[07:06] <slaffe> ok
[07:07] <Yuri6037> Because my biggest worry is that Ubuntu breaks my BIOS and makes the motherboard HS
[07:07] <slaffe> So its not possible to upgrade until they release 16.04.1 ?
[07:07] <auronandace> slaffe: you can upgrade but it would be better to wait
[07:08] <cfhowlett> ubuntu will not "break" your bios.
[07:08] <slaffe> alright
[07:08] <cfhowlett> slaffe, yes, but you are advised to wait 6 months
[07:08] <slaffe> I'll wait then :)
[07:08] <wafflej0ck> Yuri6037, I don't think thats a realistic worry (never had a install break a BIOS) you may want to just install Ubuntu on the one drive without the windows one in there though then reconfigure grub after the fact
[07:08] <slaffe> thanks for the help guys
[07:09] <Yuri6037> How do I know which drive it is under Ubuntu install ?
[07:09] <Yuri6037> Because I suppose it will read both 3 ones
[07:09] <auronandace> Yuri6037: the installer will let you choose where you want to install ubuntu
[07:10] <pavlushka> Hello every one!
[07:10] <auronandace> Yuri6037: at the partitioning stage you can see how all your partitions are laid out so you'll be able to isentify which disk is which
[07:11] <Yuri6037> Does the ISO already provides multi-lang ? I'm so sorry to ask you all of that, in fact I never installed Ubuntu, I'm thinking of it now that windows wants to bring us to crashy/buggy win10
[07:11] <pavlushka> I cant login to my vt7 but I can login to vt1 with the same credentials!
[07:12] <pavlushka> and I am know in vt1
[07:12] <Yuri6037> I already started to learn linux through command line with dedicated servers
[07:12] <auronandace> Yuri6037: the first step in the installer is choosing the language
[07:12] <DGUERRERO> The ISO is indeed multilingual
[07:13] <pavlushka> I input my password but nothing happens, but I am in tty1 with that password.
[07:14] <Yuri6037> Is it compatible with X64 based CPUs ? My Core I7 is not intended to run 32 bits OS. I can't see a checkbox/option to dl a x64 ISO...
[07:14] <auronandace> Yuri6037: yes, you'll want the amd64 version
[07:15] <Yuri6037> Where can I found it website only gives me Ubuntu 16.04 LTS
[07:15] <auronandace> Yuri6037: 16.04 is the latest release
[07:15] <Yuri6037> And what's the problem ?
[07:16] <flux242> Yuri6037: http://releases.ubuntu.com/16.04/
[07:17] <flux242> select an image
[07:17] <auronandace> Yuri6037: the default download is the amd64 version for the desktop release
[07:17] <cfhowlett> Yuri6037, easy to test for yourself.  make usb.  boot ubuntu.
[07:17] <whst> Check this link out for all arch: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/alternative-downloads
[07:17] <Yuri6037> Oh it's only 1.4GB !
[07:18] <Yuri6037> That will only take me about 30 minutes DL, interesting...
[07:19] <Yuri6037> Thanks for your help, I think that will be ok
[07:19] <flux242> only 1.4GiB yeah
[07:20] <wafflej0ck> Yuri6037, yup you'll be able to try Ubuntu from that drive and if it all seems good can install from the same media
[07:21] <flux242> why isn't it possible to install office afterwards and not to include it into the image?
[07:22] <Yuri6037> Just a question about the GPU, that's something I worry about, is there any way to find a driver for GTX 650 TI DirectCU 2 2GB because otherwise it will not run in 1920x1080px (which is default res) ?
[07:23] <wafflej0ck> Yuri6037, yeah the "Additional Drivers" after you install will list them I have a 670 works well
[07:23] <flux242> becase it'll be outdated in the image upon release
[07:23] <Yuri6037> and OpenGL woks on that GPU with native linux ?
[07:23] <wafflej0ck> flux242, I imagine for the live session experience of having an office suite there
[07:24] <wafflej0ck> Yuri6037, yeah I play games on it works well, I have to add the caveat there though that one is on 14.04 I haven't upgraded my desktop yet
[07:25] <pavlushka> I cant login to my gui, please help!
[07:25] <Yuri6037> Ok thank you I'll write somewhere the "Additional Drivers" thing.
[07:26] <lotuspsychje> pavlushka: best to ask your question all in one line, with as much details as possible, ubuntu version,etc,...
[07:27] <Yuri6037> Well just one thing, if I understand I should unpartition the HDD that will get linux, right ?
[07:28] <pavlushka>  lotuspsychje my os is Xubuntu 16.04, tty1 allows me but tty7 does nothing when I input the password!
[07:29] <Yuri6037> Ok I just unpartitioned it I'll let Linux partition it for me.
[07:29] <wafflej0ck> pavlushka, maybe try running, tail -f /var/log/syslog, on tty1 then try to login through the GUI
[07:32] <Guest56631> so ... I have one computer that is refusing to connect to connect to github.com from my network, but every other computer is pinging it just fine.  The DNS server seems to be resolving the ip (192.30.252.128, or .120, or .131) but trying to ping or traceroute them results in "Destination Host Unreachable" errors ... but just on one computer.
[07:33] <lotuspsychje> Guest56631: perhaps the ##networking guys can solve that?
[07:34] <Wulf> Guest56631: tcptraceroute github.com 443, from both computers. Pastebin the output somewhere
[07:34] <mynickisnick> hi, i would creat a variable, like an array, for somes directories (they are not in the same place),
[07:36] <mynickisnick> something like @qwe = /dir/file, /bin/file, and so on, to do @qwe chmod 755 for exemple
[07:37] <Guest56631> Wulf: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16021970/
[07:38] <Wulf> Guest56631: who is 192.168.0.102?
[07:38] <Wulf> Guest56631: and who is 192.168.0.1?
[07:38] <wafflej0ck> mynickisnick, something like this works: export DIR_LIST="/var/www /var/www/intellectual-tech"       then next line ls $DIR_LIST prints out the contents of both folders
[07:38] <Guest56631> .102 is Hikaru's IP, .1 is the router/gateway
[07:39] <Guest56631> Wulf: .102 is Hikaru's IP, .1 is the router/gateway
[07:39] <wafflej0ck> mynickisnick, export just sets some variable $somevar retrieves it
[07:39] <Wulf> Guest56631: you have a route like "0.0.0.0/0 dev XXX" on hikaru
[07:39] <Wulf> Guest56631: i.e. it thinks that all destinations are directly reachable without a gateway
[07:40] <Wulf> Guest56631: i.e. your routing table is wrong.
[07:40] <Guest56631> Wulf: How would I check for that?  I don't think I've changed any defaults, aside from installing a VPN.  I disabled that for testing though
[07:40] <Wulf> Guest56631: "ip route show"
[07:41] <wafflej0ck> mynickisnick, if you want it to persist you probably want to add the export to your ~/.bashrc
[07:41] <Guest56631> Wulf: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16022023/
[07:41] <Wulf> hmm.. close enough
[07:41] <Wulf> Guest56631: 192.0.0.0/8 is the wrong route
[07:41] <Yuri6037> I'm burning using windows 7 built in burner
[07:41] <Wulf> Guest56631: should have been 192.168.0.0/24
[07:42] <flux242> he set wrong mask propably
[07:42] <Guest56631> Wulf: so i need to figure out how to edit the ip tables then?
[07:42] <Wulf> Guest56631: iptables? no! route.
[07:43] <Wulf> flux242: sound not unlikely
[07:43] <Wulf> Guest56631: how did you configure your network interface?
[07:43] <Wulf> Guest56631: NetworkManager? wicd? /etc/network/interfaces? manual?
[07:43] <Yuri6037> With Ubuntu I'll be able to see the GMod seg-fault nightmare
[07:44] <Guest56631> Wulf: afaik, it was the default when I installed the OS ... but if I made any changes it was probably through Network Manager
[07:44] <Wulf> Guest56631: check NetworkManager and /etc/network/interfaces
[07:45] <Wulf> Guest56631: you have configured eth0's ip address 192.168.0.102 somewhere, with a bad netmask (8 or 255.0.0.0)
[07:45] <Wulf> Guest56631: change that to 24 or 255.255.255.0
[07:45] <Guest56631> Wulf: Ah, found it.  Netmask was accidently set to 255.0.0.0 ... i'll fix it and restart that computer
[07:47] <Yuri6037> Ok now anyways, thank you very much I'll GTG
[07:48] <Guest56631> Wulf: Boom!  Problem fixed.  I can ping github even through my vpn.  Thank you so very much.
[07:48] <Wulf> Guest56631: you're welcome!
[07:49] <Wulf> Guest56631: also thank flux242
[07:49] <umiit77> ubuntu
[07:49]  * Guest56631 grins, curtsies to flux242
[07:49] <umiit77> hello
[07:49] <Wulf> umiit77: now go out on the street and keep shouting it!
[07:56] <LazyO> hi, is there any alternative for network-manager under (x)ubuntu regarding openvpn? I miss a lot of functionality I know from other ovpn clients (e.g, viscosity) starting from importing of unified ovpn configs
[07:58] <Wulf> LazyO: I run openvpn from screen
[07:58] <LazyO> by command line then?
[07:58] <Wulf> yup
[08:00] <LazyO> Wulf: ok, I do it sometimes to, but its bit of 'weird'. I'd like to just say 'connect' :)
[08:00] <LazyO> But if there's no other way...
[08:06] <link> top
[08:10] <lmw> silence... :)
[08:12] <octavian> how can I open .spl7 format under ubuntu?
[08:13] <Guest51485> how can I open .spl7 format under ubuntu?
[08:13] <ikonia> what type of file is a sp17 ?
[08:14] <lmw> http://www.abacom-online.de/html/splan.html :)
[08:14] <lmw> Guest51485: ^
[08:14] <lmw> http://www.abacom-online.de/uk/ (english Version)
[08:14] <SwedeMike> lmw: http://whatis.techtarget.com/fileformat/SPL-Object-file-ShockWave-Flash claims it can be opened by the flash player. There are a few of those you can install in Ubuntu.
[08:15] <baizon> Guest51485: use wine
[08:15] <baizon> ikonia: splan
[08:15] <lmw> SwedeMike: .spl7 is also a sPlan extension
[08:15] <lmw> http://www.abacom-online.de/uk/html/splan.html
[08:15] <ikonia> ahhh electrical diagram drawings
[08:16] <lmw> *.spl7 for sPlan 7.x
[08:38] <ngalim_> exit
[08:38] <ngalim_> quit
[08:38] <Wulf> ngalim_: you won't get out of here!!
[08:38] <ngalim_> Wulf:
[08:38] <Xark> Welcome to Hotel Ubuntu. :)
[08:38] <ngalim_> Wulf: how to quit ?
[08:38] <baizon> ngalim_: youre trapped here forever :D
[08:39] <Wulf> ngalim_: won't tell you, hahaha
[08:39] <baizon> ngalim_: /quit
[08:39] <Xark> You can /quit any time you like, but you can never leave. :)
[08:43] <dmitriy> Привет
[08:43] <lmw> I hope that's "Hello"
[08:43] <lmw> Hi dmitriy
[08:43] <baizon> !ru | dmitriy
[08:45] <dmitriy> !ru
[08:53] <abolfazl123> hi.i have a file in my desktop but i can see that in terminal.whats the problem?
[08:54] <abolfazl123> ????????
[08:55] <geirha> abolfazl123: What do you type in the terminal when you try to see it?
[08:55] <abolfazl123> ls
[08:55] <rohan> what is the best way to configure kernel modules? i want to set some default values in /sys/devices/platform/sony-laptop on every bootup or resume from suspend
[08:55] <geirha> abolfazl123: that will only list your homedir's content. The desktop is a subdirectory of your homedir
[08:55] <abolfazl123> i go to desktop dir and after that write ls
[08:56] <geirha> abolfazl123: ok. Does it start with a dot? if so, try ls -a
[08:56] <abolfazl123> no
[08:57] <geirha> Hm. Then it doesn't sound like a regular file. What icon does it have?
[08:57] <abolfazl123> I have before at last.and i write a commend like this "update db" or a thing like this and it solved but i forgot that
[08:57] <rohan> found the answer; sysfsutils
[08:58] <abolfazl123> it's name is "chess.pk3"
[08:59] <geirha> abolfazl123: hm. Does this find it?   find ~ -iname "*chess*" -print
[09:00] <abolfazl123> yes
[09:00] <geirha> so it's there, just in a different directory than you assumed?
[09:01] <abolfazl123> so.... what i do?
[09:02] <abolfazl123> it's in desktop
[09:02] <abolfazl123> /home/abolfazl/Desktop/chess.pk3
[09:02] <geirha> so   cd ~/Desktop && ls   should show it
[09:02] <geirha> note the capital D, it's case-insensitive, so Desktop and desktop are different
[09:03] <geirha> gah, it's case-sensitive I mean
[09:03] <abolfazl123> yes i konw:) . but it's not there
[09:04] <geirha> ls doesn't show it? perhaps ls is an alias or function doing something weird ... try  \ls  instead of just ls
[09:05] <abolfazl123> not happen any thing
[09:05] <geirha> this doesn't make any sense :)
[09:06] <auronandace> abolfazl123: are you sure you are in the right /home/ dir?
[09:06] <abolfazl123> hahahaha.are u kidding?
[09:06] <abolfazl123> i am sure
[09:07] <geirha> abolfazl123: what does this output?  printf '<%s>' "$PWD" *; printf '\n'
[09:08] <abolfazl123> when i write that i see the file:)
[09:08] <geirha> so ls "hides" it for some reason. That's odd.
[09:09] <geirha> What does   type ls   output?   that's "type" as a command, and "ls" as the first argument
[09:09] <abolfazl123> i write this " sudo updatedb" and after that i write "ls" and it's find
[09:09] <abolfazl123> thanks
[09:10] <geirha> that's very odd. ls should not be using the updatedb, at least not the ls from coreutils
[09:10] <EriC^^> type alias ls
[09:10] <EriC^^> i mean type "type ls"
[09:11] <abolfazl123> geriha: I dont know what happen but it work.:)
[09:11] <abolfazl123> EriC what's that?
[09:11] <geirha> "type" is a command that shows what type of command it is
[09:11] <EriC^^> it's a command to show which command is running when you type ls
[09:11] <Neepu> Hi. Is there a widespread issue with Nvidia drivers on Ubuntu 16.04 LTS? I have trouble logging in after installing 361.x something provided with the release on a Nvidia GTX 750 Ti. Once password is entered, it jumps back to login screen.
[09:12] <abolfazl123> output:"ls is aliased to `ls --color=auto'"
[09:12] <Yuri6037> Hey all, I'm back, I'm temporarly connected from my laptop by live test on direct UEFI DVD boot (i can't install as HDD is not enough big on this computer)
[09:12] <geirha> abolfazl123: Hm. And if you type   type -a ls   what's the second line?
[09:13] <jeffrey_f> How can I roll back my upgrade to 16.04 lts  Stuff is broken and causing errors
[09:13] <abolfazl123> ls is /bin/ls
[09:13] <Yuri6037> I can access a lot of things, so apparently it could work (if I had enough space) in the laptop...
[09:13] <auronandace> Yuri6037: how big is the harddrive you want to install onto?
[09:14] <jeffrey_f> or help me fix the broken stuff
[09:14] <abolfazl123> geirha:did u know what happen?
[09:14] <Yuri6037> It's a HDD at 160GB but already partitioned for recovery and other (ASUS OEM PC Downgradable to Win7, with OEM win7 licence)
[09:14] <\9> jeffrey_f: we can't help you fix anything if you don't give details of what's broken
[09:14] <geirha> abolfazl123: Hm. And   file /bin/ls   ?
[09:15] <auronandace> Yuri6037: i thought you said ealier you had 3 harddrives and you wanted one dedicated to ubuntu
[09:15] <abolfazl123> is the dir right?
[09:15] <abolfazl123> it's not found...
[09:15] <Yuri6037> Yeah on the BIG tower
[09:15] <geirha> abolfazl123: file /bin/ls  says it can't find /bin/ls ?
[09:16] <jeffrey_f> \9: OK, a little help to figure out what is wrong.
[09:16] <Yuri6037> I'm on the laptop as the Big tower just escapes the DVD burner boot, the BIOS just says it's not valid bootable DVD
[09:16] <Yuri6037> So I tried on laptop to see if same, and actualy the prove is that it works !
[09:16] <auronandace> Yuri6037: how did you burn the iso?
[09:16] <Yuri6037> Using windows ISO burner
[09:17] <abolfazl123> sorry. i make mistake it's this:http://paste.ubuntu.com/16023359/
[09:19] <geirha> abolfazl123: I'm at a loss. I don't understand how that ls command could be reliant on the updatedb
[09:19] <Yuri6037> On this laptop when I booted the DVD BIOS asked me if I would like to boot DVD UEFI (I checked that), after the GNU boot program prompted to ask me if install or test, I checked test and after 10 minutes of read IO from the slow dvd drive it showed up, just with keyboard layout screwed up (I'm using AZERY it was in QWERTY by default)
[09:19] <abolfazl123> geirha:Is it important?(my problem solved:)d)
[09:20] <Yuri6037> then using the config panel I arrived to switch to azerty and fixed keyboard problem
[09:20] <auronandace> Yuri6037: you menioned your big tower has secure boot, does your laptop have that too? maybe it's secure bott that is not letting you boot the DVD
[09:20] <Yuri6037> laptop is much older it's stuck at Core I5 only with max 2.4Ghz and 4GB RAM, and I think it does not support secure boot
[09:21] <geirha> abolfazl123: I don't know. It's weird at least. Maybe some new feature of GNU coreutils that I haven't heard of yet
[09:21] <Yuri6037> this might be cause as many people said that Ubuntu was usualy refused by secured boot...
[09:22] <EriC^^> Yuri6037: try to add it to the "trusted" list
[09:23] <Yuri6037> how p9x79 BIOS just removes all control over UEFI/secure boot ! And the manual says nothing about ubuntu other than "We recommend Windows"
[09:23] <BarnabasDK> IMHO UEFI is more an attempt at lock in for certain software vendors than it has anything to do with security - my 5 cents ..
[09:23] <Cloudblow> Neepu_:  I think is problems like me and other user with geforce m series (black screen at login)
[09:23] <Yuri6037> I liked when BIOS was not locking you...
[09:24] <Neepu_> I've had that sometimes aswell.
[09:24] <Neepu_> Atm just using intel hd
[09:24] <Neepu_> Is there any bug report on it?
[09:25] <rob_> hi, after upgrading to 16.04 anyone know how to sort out resolution/font sizes when using a non-standard window manager?
[09:25] <Yuri6037> Yay, I even have my great VIM  I could work with on a rooted android !
[09:27] <Yuri6037> So bad that big tower refuses the DVD
[09:29] <Cloudblow> Neepu_:  me too, I can use only intel integrated.
[09:30] <abolfazl123>  geirha:anyway.thanks man
[09:31] <Yuri6037> strangely Ubuntu has a VERY low CPU usage rate compared to my win7
[09:32] <trijntje> Hi all, ubuntu 16.04 live (and installed) don't load the unity desktop on my pc, should I file a bug against unity or some kernel stuff?
[09:32] <Yuri6037> Ubuntu even integrates with ASUStek battery
[09:33] <abolfazl123> trijntje: is it coming today?
[09:33] <scatterp> why cant i install ssh open server on ubuntu 16.04
[09:33] <trijntje> abolfazl123: is what coming today?
[09:34] <abolfazl123> :-/
[09:34] <Yuri6037> Does anyone know a way to get all system devices like on windows, just a brute list of device names to know if it can find drivers for all ?
[09:35] <auronandace> Yuri6037: lspci will list your hardware
[09:35] <EriC^^> Yuri6037: lspci -k also says which kernel driver is in use
[09:36] <Yuri6037> Wow apparently it finds GeForce 820M as 3D controller
[09:36] <Yuri6037> Normaly it's secondary GPU that is intended for accelerated graphics
[09:37] <Yuri6037> up to DX 11 on windows
[09:37] <Yuri6037> So should be up to GL 3 maybe 4
[09:39] <Yuri6037> Is there a command to output CPU/GPU temp ?
[09:39] <EriC^^> "sensors"
[09:39] <EriC^^> you need lm-sensors installed
[09:40] <Yuri6037> Any way without installing as I'm on the DVD drive live so...
[09:40] <EriC^^> you can install using the live
[09:41] <Yuri6037> it says package lm_sensors has no installation candidates
[09:42] <auronandace> Yuri6037: - not _
[09:42] <EriC^^> did you type lm-sensors or lm_
[09:42] <Yuri6037> wait a minute
[09:43] <Yuri6037> no actualy lm-sensors has no installation candidates even after update
[09:43] <EriC^^> !info lm-sensors
[09:43] <EriC^^> Yuri6037: type sudo add-apt-repository universe
[09:43] <EriC^^> then sudo apt-get update
[09:44] <KiBi1_> ahh it's a wonderful day
[09:44] <EriC^^> Yuri6037: psensors is nice btw
[09:44] <EriC^^> psensor *
[09:44] <Yuri6037> oh ok the universe thing is not enabled
[09:45] <user> i thought I was in physics channel
[09:45] <zeroC> hey there, i am running ubuntu 16.04 with 4 workspaces in one line, is it possible to start applications on specific workstations? so spotify every time on the 2nd workspace e.g.?
[09:46] <Yuri6037> How do I enable universal component as wrote on command line ?
[09:47] <brainwash> zeroC: you can with devilspie https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Devilspie
[09:47] <zeroC> brainwash: i tried, it did not work
[09:47] <brainwash> zeroC: then your config file may be wrong/incomplete
[09:48] <zeroC> brainwash:
[09:48] <Rhorse> So, should I take the plunge and upgrade to 16.04 from 15.10? I see a lot of FUD out there - kind of nervous....
[09:48] <zeroC> hmm, i took gdevilspie to set it up
[09:48] <zeroC> but possible
[09:48] <brainwash> Rhorse: you can wait 3 more months for things to settle down
[09:48] <Guest90543> buenos dias alguien me puede ayudar para crear una red virtual  wifi desde ubuntu 16.04 mate
[09:48] <auronandace> Rhorse: i did a clean install, everything works as expected
[09:49] <Rhorse> brainwash: how long b4 15.10 eol?
[09:49] <brainwash> 3 more months
[09:49] <brainwash> !eol
[09:49] <tsurko> i notice something strange after upgrading to 16.04 from 14.04
[09:50] <Rhorse> OK, brainwash, I'll wait.
[09:50] <tsurko> in file manager, you select a file, hold down ctrl and move around with the arrow keys
[09:50] <zeroC> brainwash: http://pastie.org/private/kwmrkmm0myk5raeyubonfw <- will this start Steam on the 2nd workspace?
[09:50] <tsurko> usually you should see a tiny dotted line around the file
[09:50] <tsurko> but not in 16.04
[09:50] <tsurko> have you got the same behaviour?
[09:51] <Rhorse> I don't know why a clean install should be any better than an upgrade, though. The same files, the same modules, same kernel....
[09:51] <trijntje> Rhorse: in theory thats right, but my experience is that crud gets left over
[09:52] <brainwash> zeroC: sadly, I don't know and I cannot test it right now also.
[09:54] <brainwash> zeroC: maybe try with application_name instead of window_class
[09:54] <Rhorse> I guess, I'll try the upgrade but be prepared for the full install....
[09:55] <zeroC> brainwash: the first mactch is the application name, the problems start with workspace
[09:55] <zeroC> http://pastie.org/private/mcdxvtuw6jvrrnlnxd6na
[09:58] <brainwash> zeroC: "With Compiz, i have to use set_viewports instead of set_workspaces."
[09:58] <zeroC> brainwash: the strange thing is, even with ccsm i was not able to let it start on a different workspace
[09:59] <brainwash> zeroC: try with "set_viewport 2"
[09:59] <zeroC> one second.. :)
[09:59] <zeroC> you mean in devilspie?
[09:59] <brainwash> in the config file
[10:00] <zeroC> i tried that as well, i got 2 matches, but it starts on the first workspace
[10:00] <zeroC> ;)
[10:00] <brainwash> :/
[10:00] <zeroC> i also found a couple of threads mention that it not really working on unity
[10:00] <brainwash> bummer
[10:01] <zeroC> you use ccsm on ubuntu 16.04 with unity/
[10:01] <zeroC> ?
[10:01] <brainwash> maybe a custom script around wmctrl could be the solution
[10:01] <brainwash> I don't
[10:02] <brainwash> most sites/threads say that set_viewport should work for compiz
[10:04] <Yuri6037> ok I'm getting the universe package
[10:04] <Yuri6037> so universe is a package
[10:04] <zeroC> brainwash: my fault... i just tried with steam and spotify, with firefox it works like a charme
[10:04] <zeroC> -.-
[10:04] <auronandace> Yuri6037: universe is a repo, Eric told you how to enable it
[10:04] <zeroC> how can i get class and title etc from a window?
[10:05] <zeroC> (so that i can identify it)
[10:05] <auronandace> Yuri6037: sudo add-apt-repository universe, then sudo apt-get update
[10:06] <Yuri6037> That's ok thank you but now it's installed.
[10:06] <Yuri6037> I'll check temp to know if Ubuntu laptop is cooler than Windows laptop
[10:06] <auronandace> Yuri6037: now you can install stuff from universe, such as lm-sensors
[10:07] <Yuri6037> Ok cores are arround 40°
[10:09] <brainwash> zeroC: the wiki page mentions "xlsclients -l"
[10:10] <brainwash> zeroC: or "wmctrl -l"
[10:10] <Yuri6037> ok so I can view cpu temp, but no ways to monitor GPU temp
[10:12] <Yuri6037> Ok so actualy I prefer lm-sensors
[10:13] <Yuri6037> watch -n 0.5 sensors does the trick
[10:13] <Yuri6037> I can see CPU temp in live and it's realy not going higher than 40°C
[10:14] <Yuri6037> That's official Windows must be doing some special tricks to realy make the CPU hot !
[10:14] <flaiks> ello, I tried googling and couldn't find too much info, How can I modify a Desktop terminal app entry to use a specific profile ?
[10:14] <flaiks> it's for vim, I want to launch my vim terminals with a specfic profile for font reasons
[10:15] <flaiks> im using 16.04
[10:15] <scatterp> can any one help me install ssh server on ubuntu 16.04 ? ( http://askubuntu.com/questions/760378/can-not-install-openssh-server-on-ubuntu-16-04 )
[10:15] <Yuri6037> Ubuntu seams to manage better CPU. About RAM it's same, no changes win7 uses arround 2GB like ubuntu
[10:16] <trijntje> flaiks: vim read the file .vimrc in your home folder on startup, is that what you want?
[10:16] <Yuri6037> so I think Ubuntu would run my laptop better at the exception that I have no space for it...
[10:16] <flaiks> trijntje: no, because im using gnome-terminal for vim, so I need to set my terminal emulator font
[10:17] <Yuri6037> Ok well I'll gtg now, thanks all for your help I could test Ubuntu this way.
[10:17] <auronandace> Yuri6037: you can launch gparted from the live session to see how full your partitions are
[10:17] <Yuri6037> I will see
[10:17] <Yuri6037> for the moment I need gtg
[10:18] <trijntje> flaiks: then you set it in gnome-terminal, it also has profiles
[10:20] <nummy> Does anyone have any experience installing a Ubuntu flavour on a 2008 White Macbook? Would it handle Unity? It's barely on the min requirements
[10:20] <scatterp> nummy thankfully no :D
[10:20] <flaiks> trijntje: yes I know, im using a gnome terminal profile, it's fine, I just edited the desktop entry to exec 'gnome-terminal -e vim --profle=Vim'
[10:20] <nummy> why thankfully?
[10:20] <scatterp> i hate mac lol
[10:20] <flaiks> now, one more thing, Upon suspend, my wifi doesn't work unless I restart network-manager
[10:21] <nummy> okay?
[10:21] <flaiks> nummy: sorry, I have a newer macbook
[10:22] <nummy> http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/macbook/specs/macbook-core-2-duo-2.2-white-13-late-2007-santa-rosa-specs.html
[10:22] <nummy> This is the machine
[10:22]  * calvin0216 waves
[10:22] <flaiks> the solution is apparently to restart the wifi, and if that doesnt work, reboot the computer, but that's a bit ridiculous
[10:22] <flaiks> this is a known issue with 16.04 maybe? https://help.ubuntu.com/16.04/ubuntu-help/power-nowireless.html
[10:23] <RongXian> i have installed 16.04 without X, which command to install mir? does it support fluxbox?
[10:23] <flaiks> nummy: aree you having any specific issues installing it ? or just wonderinf if it will work ?
[10:23] <flaiks> s/wonderinf/wondering
[10:24] <nummy> flaiks: I'm getting a refurbished one next week and just wondering if I can run ubuntu or if I should go for lubuntu or something lightweight
[10:24] <nummy> if someone here has any experience, I'd like to hear, just that
[10:25] <flaiks> nummy: it might, check it against the min specs for ubuntu. Best way though is to just boot a live install to test it
[10:25] <nummy> It's exactly min spects, so I will just have to try it out
[10:25] <nummy> specs*
[10:25] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[10:25] <flaiks> nummy: i would upgrade the ram, put an ssd in it(if it supports it)
[10:25] <flaiks> should be fine
[10:25] <ikonia> nummy: I think you're going to have a negative experience on that model both performance and setup
[10:25] <flaiks> won't be insanely fast
[10:26] <calvin2016> Hello people
[10:26] <flaiks> but yeah compatibility won't be great
[10:26] <flaiks> anyone else using a newer macbook with ubuntu ?
[10:26] <ikonia> the device is a waste of money in the modern world
[10:26] <ikonia> flaiks: on occasion yes
[10:26] <flaiks> ikonia: what trackpad drivers you use ?
[10:26] <calvin2016> Ive never tried putting linux on a mac
[10:27] <ikonia> flaiks: none at the moment, but the synaptics one works fine because I don't use gestures
[10:27] <flaiks> ah
[10:27] <calvin2016> Is it harder than PC?
[10:27] <flaiks> my main problem is when im typing my mouse triggers
[10:27] <flaiks> calvin2016: im using a brand new pro retina, everything works out of the box fine
[10:27] <ikonia> flaiks: you need to just reduce the sensitivity,
[10:27] <SCHAAP137> anyone else have this error, after upgrading to 16.04?
[10:27] <SCHAAP137> PHP Warning:  PHP Startup: Unable to load dynamic library '/usr/lib/php/20151012/gd.so' - /usr/lib/php/20151012/gd.so: undefined symbol: gdVersionString in Unknown on line 0
[10:27] <calvin2016> Great to hear that!
[10:27] <SCHAAP137> php7.0-gd doesn't want to load
[10:27] <flaiks> ikonia: which sensitivity ? you mean the palm detection ?
[10:27] <ikonia> SCHAAP137: where did that package come from ?
[10:28] <ikonia> flaiks: yes,
[10:28] <flaiks> ikonia: okay, ill lookup some config options for that
[10:28] <SCHAAP137> ikonia: ubuntu repo
[10:28] <ikonia> flaiks: I used to have this on a thinkpad as the pad was near my typing thumb
[10:28] <ikonia> SCHAAP137: which one ?
[10:28] <ikonia> SCHAAP137: I'd be very surprised if a core graphics library like gd was broken in the stock php 7 build from ubuntu 16.04
[10:29] <SCHAAP137> ikonia: php7.0-gd is already the newest version (7.0.4-7ubuntu2).
[10:29] <SCHAAP137> it's the stock package
[10:29] <ikonia> !info php7.0-gd
[10:29] <SCHAAP137> wiped everything php5-related, all of it
[10:30] <SCHAAP137> solely php7.0 packages now
[10:30] <ikonia> SCHAAP137: interesting, the undefined symbol is normally an incompatiability or a missing package, but I'd be surprised if this was the case as it's not a obscure library to miss in testing
[10:30] <hicoleri> Can I install ubuntu 16.04 right now? Running update-manager shows that the upgrade is available but clicking it shows that its a development release.
[10:31] <ikonia> hicoleri: wait for 16.04.1
[10:31] <SCHAAP137> ikonia: it keeps my ownCloud from working properly, php -m also doesn't load it
[10:31] <SCHAAP137> each time php is called, my root user receives an email with that line :P
[10:31] <flaiks> anyone use mtrack before ?
[10:31] <ikonia> SCHAAP137: can you do "apt-file search /usr/lib/php/20151012/gd.so"
[10:31] <cfhowlett> hicoleri, you could force it but you are advised to wait for 16.04.1
[10:31] <flaiks> how tricky is it to use custom mouse drivers with ubuntu? al my linux experience recently is with arch
[10:31] <hicoleri> ikonia: Is that necessary? Some articles showed that I can upgrade right away that way,
[10:32] <ikonia> hicoleri: those articles are wrong then aren't they - or you'd be offered an upgrade
[10:32] <SCHAAP137> ikonia: it returns this -> php7.0-gd: /usr/lib/php/20151012/gd.so
[10:32] <ikonia> SCHAAP137: so its the right file from the right package
[10:32] <hicoleri> ikonia:okay
[10:32] <SCHAAP137> ikonia: correct
[10:33] <ikonia> SCHAAP137: maybe worth running ldd against the php and libraries to see what it's linking against, then look at the packages that provide them, make sure there is not something thats slipped through dependency checks from an old package as part of the upgrade
[10:33] <ikonia> SCHAAP137: bit tedious, but it's a possibility
[10:33] <flaiks> wait is ubuntu not running on xf86 ?
[10:34] <SCHAAP137> ikonia, how would i recognise it from the ldd output?
[10:35] <SCHAAP137> getting this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16025055/
[10:35] <ikonia> SCHAAP137: get the ldd output, check what packages provides those depends, make sure they are all current from 16.04
[10:35] <SCHAAP137> okay
[10:36] <ikonia> SCHAAP137: its tedious, but if you have a legit bug, it will be valuable,
[10:36] <ikonia> SCHAAP137: I'd be surprised if it is a real bug though (and dissapointed)
[10:36] <Hetachi> Hello, perhaps anyone here knows how can I update 12.04 to 12.04.3 ?
[10:36] <ikonia> hicoleri: it will happen automatically
[10:36] <SCHAAP137> ikonia: i´ll do my best to find out
[10:37] <cfhowlett> Hetachi, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:37] <ikonia> hicoleri: as you update the packages it moves you through 12.04.1, .2, .3, 4
[10:37] <ikonia> SCHAAP137: ask if you're in doubt, or want discussion on it
[10:37] <SCHAAP137> ikonia: so basically, i would have to run apt-file search on each of the results in the ldd output?
[10:37] <SCHAAP137> does it mean anything when 2 of the results just mention filenames and no paths?
[10:37] <SCHAAP137> would these be the libs it cannot find?
[10:38] <ikonia> SCHAAP137: pretty much, then evaluate the package versions against what's in ubuntu 16.04
[10:38] <Hetachi> cfhowlett, it won't update to higher version ?
[10:38] <ikonia> SCHAAP137: can you give an example ?
[10:38] <cfhowlett> Hetachi, have you tried?
[10:38] <ikonia> Hetachi: you'll need to provide details other than "it won't
[10:38] <SCHAAP137> ikonia: in my pastebin output, that line linux-vdso.so.1 =>  (0x00007fff811a6000) and /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (0x0000563413887000)
[10:38] <SCHAAP137> all other lines have an arrow, indicating a path to a file
[10:38] <flaiks> okay, so i have both synaptics and mtrack installed, how can I select and use a specific touchpad driver ?
[10:38] <Hetachi> cfhowlett, okay let me try it
[10:39] <ikonia> SCHAAP137: oooh, thats interesting
[10:39] <flaiks> both 50- prefix on the xorg conf files
[10:39] <sameee> quit
[10:39] <ikonia> flaiks: had to put it in one of the modular config files in /etc/xorg.d
[10:39] <ikonia> (from memory)
[10:39] <ikonia> SCHAAP137: interesting,
[10:39] <flaiks> ikonia: its in /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d
[10:39] <ikonia> flaiks: there you go, thank you
[10:39] <flaiks> but I have 2 files, 50-synpatics and 50-mtrack
[10:39] <ikonia> SCHAAP137: so ld-linux is going to be pretty core
[10:39] <flaiks> I want to use the mtrack driver, at is has much better support
[10:40] <flaiks> how can I choose which one to use ?
[10:40] <ikonia> flaiks: thats the module config, you need to include it in the core file, the now modular xorg.conf
[10:40] <ikonia> SCHAAP137: if you apt-file it - what do you get ?
[10:40] <flaiks> ah
[10:40] <SCHAAP137> lemme see
[10:40] <flaiks> so where is that location ikonia  ?
[10:41] <ikonia> SCHAAP137: it's hard to see in a pastebin, but if you ls that file, does it exist / is it red
[10:41] <flaiks> ikonia: /etc/X11 has not xorg.conf
[10:41] <SCHAAP137> the second one is used by libc6: /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2
[10:41] <SCHAAP137> i can't seem to find linux-vdso.so.1
[10:41] <ikonia> SCHAAP137: so there should be a symlink pointing at that file
[10:41] <Hetachi> cfhowlett, it turns out I have higher version than I wanted, so now I need to downgrade to 12.04.3 since it's 12.04.5
[10:42] <flaiks> the ubuntu wiki is pretty outdated
[10:42] <ikonia> flaiks: it's dynamic now, but there are some modular ones that you can include in it, somewheer like /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d
[10:42] <ikonia> flaiks: I don't have an ubuntu box to check on for you at the moment
[10:42] <cfhowlett> Hetachi, "downgrade"?  not an ubuntu option.  you would have to reinstall 12.04.3                but why???
[10:42] <flaiks> ikonia: right, i have the modular files setup, but I have 2 trackpad drivers in there
[10:42] <flaiks> ill just delete the synaptics one
[10:43] <flaiks> or rather, move it
[10:43] <ikonia> flaiks: no, thats the config files - thats not the include
[10:43] <ikonia> flaiks: thats a simple trick, that should work
[10:43] <flaiks> from experience, on arch, that works
[10:43] <Hetachi> cfhowlett, got an app that requires that version, but I guess I can edit the script to accept higher version
[10:43] <ikonia> I think it parses anything with a .conf extension from memory
[10:43] <flaiks> im going to reboot and see
[10:44] <SCHAAP137> ikonia: i'm not sure where to symlink it
[10:44] <SCHAAP137> ldd -v output on that gd.so file: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16025197/
[10:45] <iSlayWyverns> http://tinyurl.com/h4b2mve - this used to work on 14.04 but not on 16.04, any solutions?
[10:46] <flaiks> so, I think it worked, any way i can check which drivers are loaded ?
[10:46] <flaiks> i mean which are loaded in X
[10:47] <auronandace> iSlayWyverns: you'll need to check how systemd handles that (14.04 used upstart)
[10:48] <flaiks> k it loaded it, so it really is that simple ikonia
[10:49] <sissylog> I am running xubuntu but since nobody's answering in that chan I am asking here
[10:50] <C0r3> tink3rb3ll
[10:50] <sissylog> today after installing an update to the numix theme, my xfce panels and any app that's got to do with changing the desktop's appearance is crashing
[10:50] <ikonia> remove the theme
[10:51] <sissylog> not so easy when i can't access desktop settings
[10:51] <ikonia> remove the files
[10:51] <anotheryou> hi. i forgot my ubuntu password... What where the requirements for it? is there a minimal length?
[10:52] <anotheryou> I know I just made a pro-forma one close to the return key XD
[10:52] <SCHAAP137> okay ikonia, i'm a bit further
[10:52] <ikonia> SCHAAP137: good effort
[10:53] <SCHAAP137> it seems the location gd.so is linked to, is not part of the libgd3 package (/usr/local/lib/libgd.so.3), but in another location it is (/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgd.so.3)
[10:53] <sissylog> ikonia, purge the numix package?
[10:53] <ikonia> sissylog: /usr/local/lib - that is not an ubuntu package
[10:53] <ikonia> sissylog: oops, sorry not you
[10:53] <ikonia> SCHAAP137: /usr/local/lib - that's not come from an official ubuntu package
[10:54] <ikonia> sissylog: purge it, remove the files, move the files, whatever, then restart X and it will fail to see the theme and go to default
[10:54] <SCHAAP137> well, php7.0-gd: /usr/lib/php/20151012/gd.so
[10:54] <ikonia> sissylog: then you have the desktop gui back
[10:54] <SCHAAP137> it does say it's from an ubuntu package
[10:54] <ikonia> SCHAAP137: what package provides /usr/local/lib/libgd.so
[10:55] <sissylog> ikonia, i just ran screenfetch, it always lists my GTK2/3 themes this time it didn't
[10:55] <sissylog> it just has WM which is XFWM4
[10:55] <SCHAAP137> the package that provided it, seems to be absent now
[10:55] <SCHAAP137> apt-file returns nothing
[10:55] <ikonia> SCHAAP137: that library has not come from an official ubuntu package
[10:56] <ikonia> SCHAAP137: at some point you've had a package from an external resource (PPA for example) thats put a version of libgd on in that obscure place
[10:56] <ikonia> SCHAAP137: (in my opinion from what you've shown me)
[10:56] <SCHAAP137> that seems to be the case
[10:56] <SCHAAP137> would deleting these libs there fix the situation? or symlink them to the real ones?
[10:57] <ikonia> SCHAAP137: I wouldn't symlink them, while that may work at this exact second, it will cause more problems
[10:57] <ikonia> SCHAAP137: get rid of the libs (if you can check for packages on the system that may contain them still - or google search for what package may provide them) remove that package
[10:57] <ikonia> SCHAAP137: worst case, remove the files, re-apply the ubuntu gd package and it should update the linker as part of the install
[10:59] <SCHAAP137> it's fixed :D
[10:59] <SCHAAP137> thanks ikonia :)
[10:59] <Yuri6037> Hey all I'm back now using Ubuntu from laptop installed in SATA (I reduced the big data partition to 153 instead of 160
[10:59] <sissylog> ikonia, nothing changed
[10:59] <ikonia> SCHAAP137: nice work
[11:00] <ikonia> SCHAAP137: what do you mean nothings changed ?
[11:00] <ikonia> SCHAAP137: oops, sorry
[11:00] <ikonia> sissylog: what do you mean nothings changed, what did you do and what was the results
[11:00] <sissylog> ikonia,its still crashing and i purged numix-gtk-theme
[11:00] <sissylog> and killed lightdm
[11:00] <sissylog> that restarts X
[11:01] <SCHAAP137> ikonia: i just rm'd libgd* in /usr/local/lib, apt-get install --reinstall'ed libgd3 and php7.0-gd, restarted php-fpm and nginx, done
[11:01] <Yuri6037> Ok it's actualy reading the 30GB partition correctly
[11:01] <ikonia> sissylog: when it logs in, what theme is it showing
[11:01] <ikonia> SCHAAP137: nice work, very nice
[11:01] <SCHAAP137> massive thanks for the help, ikonia, now my ownCloud works again
[11:01] <SCHAAP137> and my visitor map on my website :P
[11:01] <ikonia> SCHAAP137: great news
[11:02] <sissylog> ikonia, nothing its got no theme, there are no panels, no menus  nothing and even screenfetch is only telling me the WM i am running not DE not GTK theme
[11:03] <Yuri6037> Ok now let me try to check that windows still works
[11:03] <ReScO> hey people
[11:03] <ikonia> sissylog: so now you need to look at the xorg logs and the xession logs to see why it's crashing
[11:03] <ReScO> i'm wondering, is there any way to store public keys for ssh auth in a postgres DB or something?'
[11:03] <ReScO> trying to make a webpanel to manage users on my server
[11:04] <iSlayWyverns> auronandace, hmm I see, thanks for the reply!
[11:04] <ikonia> ReScO: yes, just write the application to parse a database
[11:04] <ikonia> a web pannel is a very very bad idea though
[11:04] <ReScO> ikonia, it'll be on intranet access only, ikonia
[11:04] <ikonia> ReScO: still a bad idea
[11:04] <ReScO> ikonia, what do you suggest then?
[11:05] <ikonia> ReScO: not writing a web pannel to manage users and using supported, well known and tried and tested tools
[11:05] <sissylog> ikonia, wait scratch that ran screenfetch again, its running Greybird GTK2
[11:05] <sissylog> ikonia, thats xubuntu default
[11:06] <ReScO> ikonia, which tools do you suggest, so i can take a look at them
[11:06] <sissylog> ikonia,but it has the same problem everything that's meant to change xfce's appearance crashes
[11:06] <ikonia> ReScO: the useradmin tool that's part of ubuntu,
[11:06] <ikonia> sissylog: look at the logs then
[11:06] <sissylog> ikonia, /etc/x11/xorg/?
[11:07] <ikonia> sissylog: no
[11:07] <ReScO> ikonia, how can i let users upload their pubkeys then when they don't know how to use ssh?
[11:07] <ikonia> sissylog: xsession is in your home directory, xorg is in /var/log
[11:07] <ikonia> ReScO: if they don't know how to use ssh - why are they uploading keys
[11:07] <ReScO> ikonia, sftp
[11:07] <sissylog> ikonia,which one do you want me to look at?
[11:08] <teratogene> hi
[11:08] <ikonia> sissylog: either/both
[11:08] <ikonia> ReScO: have someone upload them with the correct permissions
[11:10] <sissylog> ikonia, xor.0.log has nothing relevant to xfce or crashing
[11:11] <sissylog> ikonia, http://paste.debian.net/440585/
[11:11] <ikonia> I don't want to see it
[11:11] <sissylog> ikonia, what do you suggest i do?
[11:11] <ikonia> sissylog: look at the logs I told you to look at
[11:12] <ikonia> see if there is anything that's giving any pointers
[11:12] <azizLIGHT> hi ikonia
[11:12] <sissylog> ikonia, they've nothing that has anything to do with xfce or any of those apps crashing or even anything being wrong at that
[11:12] <ikonia> sissylog: which logs did you look at
[11:13] <sissylog> ikonia, /var/log/xorg.0.log
[11:13] <ikonia> sissylog: and what logs did I tell you to look at
[11:13] <sissylog> either
[11:13] <ikonia> sissylog: "either" so what was the second log file....
[11:14] <sissylog> xsession in ~
[11:14] <ikonia> sissylog: and have you looked at that
[11:14] <sissylog> sorry checking that now
[11:14] <iSlayWyverns> [fixed] DUAL-Boot time problems? (UTC/GMT Related) -> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Time#RTC_clock
[11:15] <ikonia> iSlayWyverns: ?
[11:15] <sissylog> ikonia,umm i did find something but its not a whole lotta helpful
[11:15] <sissylog> openConnection: connect: No such file or directory
[11:15] <sissylog> cannot connect to brltty at :0
[11:15] <sissylog> upstart: update-notifier-crash (/var/crash/_usr_bin_xfce4-appearance-settings.1000.crash) main process (5620) terminated with status 1
[11:15] <iSlayWyverns> I asked a question earlier, but found a solution... Dual-boot would confuse time in each restart. ikonia
[11:15] <ikonia> sissylog: ok - so there is your first starting point to research/undersetand
[11:15] <ikonia> understand
[11:16] <azizLIGHT> when i bootup ubuntu, i see a 1 second flash of default ubuntu wallpaper at the login screen. what is this wallpaper and where do i find it because i want to make it match my current wallpaper of my choice so i dont see this flashing
[11:16] <azizLIGHT> 14.04 btw
[11:16] <rhagu> Hi, I installed 16.04 server edition on a PC and used ssh to connect, one day later I get "connection refused" using ssh with the same host and client. This is done over VPN. netstat says the host is till listening at port 22. What may have gone wrong?
[11:17] <ikonia> rhagu: so you'll need to look at the output of ssh -vvv and look at the security log on the server
[11:21] <azizLIGHT> in dconf i can see that com.canonical.unity-greeter has option 'background' with '/usr/share/backgrounds/warty-final-ubuntu.png'
[11:21] <azizLIGHT> what setting in ubuntu changes this
[11:22] <azizLIGHT> ive already set my wallpaper in "Appearances" and its not warty-final-ubuntu
[11:22] <azizLIGHT> so why do i see it for 1 second
[11:22] <azizLIGHT> and where do i change this setting normally, besides dconf?
[11:23] <sysRPL> hello
[11:24] <sysRPL> how do i fix this? sudo apt-get install libxext-dev ... leading to ... The following packages have unmet dependencies: libxext-dev : Depends: libxext6 (= 2:1.3.2-1) but 2:1.3.2-1ubuntu0.0.14.04.1 is to be installed E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[11:24] <Lazybones_> hey, you guys :)
[11:25] <Lazybones_> playing around with 32bit knoppix , HD install
[11:25] <ikonia> Lazybones_: how does that relate to ubuntu ?
[11:25] <Lazybones_> got a @screen magnifier switched on somehow, cant work out how to switch it off :)
[11:25] <ikonia> Lazybones_: we don't support knoppix here, you're in #ubuntu IRC channel for ubuntu support
[11:25] <Lazybones_> ikonia:oh, you know, you guys are fun :)
[11:26] <izabera> hi, is Herton Ronaldo Krzesinski here?
[11:26] <sysRPL> ikonia, hi, can you help me here?
[11:26] <ikonia> sysRPL: just ask the channel, the channel will help if they can
[11:26] <Lazybones_> its a simple magnifier, surely a little bit of direction
[11:26] <ikonia> Lazybones_: sorry no,
[11:26] <ikonia> Lazybones_: we don't support knoppix here at all
[11:26] <sysRPL> ikonia, already di that thanks
[11:26] <ikonia> sysRPL: perfect, I'm sure someone will respond if they see it / can help
[11:26] <izabera> i have exact the same problem as this guy https://askubuntu.com/questions/759848/looking-for-wifi-drivers-for-hp-250-g4-for-ubuntu-14-04
[11:27] <izabera> exactly*
[11:27] <Lazybones_> im too lazy..
[11:27] <sysRPL> k
[11:27] <zteam> Hi!
[11:27] <cfhowlett> Lazybones_, sounds like something you should discuss with the knoppix channel. not here.
[11:28] <lotuspsychje> sysRPL: wich ubuntu version? up to date to latest?
[11:28] <pesari> sysRPL: did you try running apt-get update?
[11:28] <sysRPL> 14.04
[11:28] <sysRPL> yes
[11:28] <Lazybones_> oh, blinking flip, wrong keymap..
[11:29] <lotuspsychje> sysRPL: installed external ppa's of any kind? manual deb installs?
[11:29] <pesari> sysRPL: can you pastebin the output of  apt-cache policy libxext-dev libxext6
[11:29] <sysRPL> lotuspsychje, yes, a few
[11:29] <lotuspsychje> sysRPL: removal all ppa's from your system first, as we dont support ppa's
[11:29] <zteam> I'm considering encrypting my usb harddrive with LUKS, can I read that encrypted disk on another computer running Ubuntu wihout any problems?
[11:30] <sysRPL> http://paste.ubuntu.com/16026152/
[11:30] <Lazybones_> they are all asleep on #knoppix
[11:30] <pesari> sysRPL: seems like you don't have trusty-updates repository enabled
[11:31] <zteam> (I'm thinking about that LUKS uses key iterations dependending on how fast the cpu is
[11:31] <Lazybones_> ahem, cough, I `m using ubuntu and the screen magnifier wont go away, whats the shortcut to switch it off :))
[11:32] <rhagu> ikonia, anything particular I have to look at?
[11:32] <ikonia> rhagu: the output of the command I gave and the log file I suggested ?
[11:32] <zteam> anybody?
[11:32] <lotuspsychje> !patience | zteam
[11:33] <rhagu> ikonia, this is weird, I did ssh again, only added -vv and this time it works!
[11:33] <zteam> lotuspsychje, sorry sorry :-)
[11:33] <rhagu> ikonia very odd
[11:33] <ikonia> rhagu: vv makes no difference, it's just verbose output
[11:33] <rhagu> ikonia, I know, thats why I said its odd
[11:33] <rhagu> I did not change a thing
[11:33] <lotuspsychje> zteam: its recommended to re-ask your issue all in one line, with as many details possible once in a while
[11:35] <Lazybones_> did i get kicked?
[11:36] <peder> anyone have any ide why the installer for 16.04 (partman) won't let me choose lvm when manually partitioning
[11:36] <Lazybones_> k, will switch back to lubuntu 32bit, anyone know if netflix runs on 32 bit chrome?
[11:36] <cfhowlett> Lazybones_, you did.  we don't take kindly to game players here.  take your knoppix issues to knoppix.
[11:36] <ikonia> Lazybones_: yes please stop messing around
[11:36] <sysRPL> hrmm okay .. well i had turn off some updates to prevent virtualbox from getting upgraded ... everytime virtualbox is upgraded it breaks something
[11:36] <Lazybones_> bad karma dudes :(
[11:37] <Lazybones_> k, the 32 bit chrome question was legit
[11:37] <Fleuv> Hi, I just installed ubuntu serv, rebooted and it seems now that the wireless interfaces wlan0 isn't installed (correctly). how would i setup a wifi connection when i only see lo in ifconfig?
[11:37] <cfhowlett> Lazybones_, no knoppix support here.  go away now.
[11:37] <lotuspsychje> Lazybones_: you dont have lubuntu yet..
[11:37] <ikonia> Fleuv: what network card is it using - as it looks like it's not seen by the OS
[11:37] <ikonia> Fleuv: why are you putting wireless cards in server ?
[11:38] <Lazybones_> and if i did, it would be @try the lubuntu channel@
[11:38] <A[D]minS> Hello Guys, I'm trying to connect to vpn via vpnc and it crash with this error
[11:38] <A[D]minS> vpnc: vpnc.c:1206: lifetime_ike_process: Assertion `a->next->type == IKE_ATTRIB_LIFE_DURATION' failed.
[11:38] <ikonia> Lazybones_: lubuntu discussion is fine here too
[11:38] <ikonia> Lazybones_: you may get more specific/focussed/experience lubuntu help in #lubuntu though
[11:38] <Fleuv> ikonia i installed it on my dell xps 15 laptop i will install ubuntu desktop afterwards
[11:38] <ikonia> Fleuv: just install ubuntu desktop
[11:39] <ikonia> Fleuv: it has tools for wireless cards better than the server install, there is no need to use a "server" install
[11:39] <Fleuv> But then i cant install vestacp
[11:39] <Lazybones_> (I cant install q3a or serious sam on 64bit systems )
[11:39] <ikonia> you're mkaing it harder than it needs to be
[11:39] <ikonia> Fleuv: why can't you ?
[11:39] <Fleuv> Vestacp only installs on ubuntu server
[11:39] <ikonia> Fleuv: I doubt that
[11:40] <sysRPL> ... upgrading ...
[11:40] <Fleuv> I've tried to install it on desktop
[11:40] <C0r3> I'm facing a problem with my pc. When ever I connect to the wifi it automatically disconnects after sometime.
[11:40] <A[D]minS> Any idea with vpnc crash? :)
[11:40] <lotuspsychje> C0r3: ubuntu version? wifi chipset?
[11:40] <ikonia> Fleuv: disagree
[11:40] <Fleuv> From the sounds of it, i should use lan instead of wifi
[11:40] <C0r3> I was using ubuntu 14.04 and upgraded to 16.04 today. Yet I have the same problem
[11:41] <Lazybones_> are you a fair distance from router?
[11:41] <lotuspsychje> C0r3: not very recommended to upgrade from 14.04 yet
[11:41] <ikonia> Fleuv: you can use lan or wifi it's up to you
[11:41] <ikonia> Fleuv: this isn't going to be connected to the public internet are you ?
[11:41] <lotuspsychje> C0r3: you could try a 16.04 liveusb perhaps, see if wifi performs better?
[11:42] <cfhowlett> C0r3, bleeding edge = bloody edge.  Many LTS only folk wait until the first point release, e.g. 16.04.1
[11:42] <C0r3> lotuspsychje: But I had the problem in 14.04 also
[11:42] <lotuspsychje> C0r3: wifi chipset?
[11:42] <Fleuv> ikonia, do you mean like accesible over the internet? No, it's for local development only. But i would like it to be able to acces the internet with it.
[11:42] <zteam> I'm considering encrypting my usb harddrive with LUKS, can I read that encrypted disk on another computer (with different hardware) running Ubuntu wihout any problems?
[11:43] <A[D]minS> No hope :(
[11:43] <ikonia> Fleuv: if this is going to have interenet access, eg: people could hit it from the inetnet, that pannel is terrible, it is a huge security hole
[11:43] <iSlayWyverns> While taking Terminal-screenshots is it wise to hide Username/PCname? or it doesnt matter?
[11:44] <Fleuv> The panel is for local use only
[11:45] <Fleuv> ikonia, is there a better option for a local development env than vestacp
[11:45] <C0r3> lotuspsychje: Realtek
[11:45] <ikonia> Fleuv: what do you actually need for your development
[11:45] <C0r3> lotuspsychje: RTL8101/2/6E
[11:45] <lotuspsychje> C0r3: did you try realteks website for latest linux drivers yet?
[11:46] <lotuspsychje> C0r3: some realtek chipset perform better after a firmware install
[11:46] <C0r3> lotuspsychje: No. I didn't. How to do that?
[11:46] <Fleuv> ikonia i want to be able to setup custom virtual hosts easily. So basically web development on apache.
[11:46] <ikonia> Fleuv: why why bother with all that stuff
[11:47] <ikonia> Fleuv: just setup apache, and have a virtual host template
[11:47] <Fleuv> Keeping it organize
[11:47] <lotuspsychje> C0r3: open a browser and visit realteks website, and take a look at your chipsets driver
[11:47] <ikonia> Fleuv: 1 site per virtual host, 1 file per virtual host, really easy and tidy
[11:47] <lotuspsychje> !realtek | C0r3
[11:47] <C0r3> lotuspsychje: Thanks.
[11:48] <Fleuv> ikonia: I rather have an interfaces or a script wrapped for some of those processes
[11:48] <sysRPL> wow, no virtualbox errors this time. this might work
[11:49] <ikonia> Fleuv: what process "copy file template - put name of site in template file you just copied"
[11:49] <ikonia> it's 15 seconds work, or script it if you want
[11:49] <ikonia> that tool is overkill and a mess for managing a few virtual hosts
[11:49] <lotuspsychje> sysRPL: always keep your system up to date, without external ppa's :p
[11:49] <borgnoob> I'm running 14.04 and getting logged off immediately after login. I've tried to remove .Xauthority and other solution from https://askubuntu.com/questions/367260/i-am-logged-out-immediately-after-logging-in. But nothing helped. I can login as Guest without any issues.
[11:49] <sysRPL> lotuspsychje, i need simple screen recorded. i believe i eed a ppa for ti
[11:50] <sysRPL> * it
[11:50] <lotuspsychje> sysRPL: kazam?
[11:50] <sysRPL> lotuspsychje, no
[11:50] <lotuspsychje> sysRPL: kazam makes screenshots and desktop recordings, no ppa needed
[11:51] <sysRPL> lotuspsychje, i've found simple screen recorder works best with overlay windows and capturing opengl content
[11:51] <Fleuv> ikonia, so you're saying. Install ubuntu desktop and you're good to go
[11:51] <ikonia> Fleuv: totally
[11:52] <ikonia> Fleuv: approx 5 minutes work post install to setup what you need, and you're developing
[11:52] <sysRPL> lotuspsychje, i'll try kazam though just to see the performance difference
[11:53] <lotuspsychje> sysRPL: you can choose what packages you install, its your system but just wanna say smoothest way is official ubuntu packages from repos
[11:54] <Fleuv> ikonia, so you installed apache, sql and stuff with apt
[11:54] <ikonia> Fleuv: yup,
[11:54] <ikonia> Fleuv: or the package manager gui
[11:55] <sysRPL> lotuspsychje, okay, well it seems like this is going to work, that is enabling trusty-updates and trusty-security ... update then upgrade
[11:55] <sysRPL> i am going to have to reboot though
[11:55] <sysRPL> thanks to all
[11:55] <lotuspsychje> !usn | sysRPL see also the risks of a non-updated system
[11:58] <lotuspsychje> A[D]minS: what was your ubuntu version?
[11:59] <mmorais> is someone here?
[11:59] <lotuspsychje> mmorais: what can we do for you?
[11:59] <A[D]minS> lotuspsychje, Ubuntu 16.04 LTS
[12:00] <lotuspsychje> A[D]minS: desktop or server?
[12:00] <A[D]minS> desktop
[12:00] <mmorais> lotuspsychje: Who are you?
[12:00] <ikonia> mmorais: hi there, welcome to the #ubuntu IRC channel, this channel is run by people who will help you with your ubuntu issues
[12:01] <A[D]minS> lotuspsychje, desktop
[12:01] <mmorais> I've changed from Ubuntu 16.04 to Ubuntu MATE 16.04.
[12:01] <sysRPL> okay gotta restart, thanks bye
[12:01] <mckgun10> hola
[12:01] <Lazybones_> if any one asks, netflix runs fine on 32bit systems with 32 bit chrome :)
[12:02] <A[D]minS> lotuspsychje, The error is exactly : RTNETLINK answers: File exists    vpnc: vpnc.c:1206: lifetime_ike_process: Assertion `a->next->type == IKE_ATTRIB_LIFE_DURATION' failed.
[12:02] <Lazybones_> I think i`ll go dual boot and suffer grub every startup :)
[12:02] <mmorais> In the previous distro my gnome-session always restarted...
[12:02] <lotuspsychje> A[D]minS: holdon im reading on it :p
[12:02] <ikonia> Lazybones_: not sure if you're trying to troll
[12:02] <ikonia> Lazybones_: chrome has killed the 32bit version
[12:02] <Lazybones_> :o)
[12:02] <Lazybones_> bbl with lubuntu, keep everyone happy
[12:02] <ikonia> Lazybones_: could you please stop messing around please
[12:02] <A[D]minS> lotuspsychje, if i inserted wrong password for group or usename then it will tell the password is wrong which means it reach and authenticate , Sure take your time :D
[12:03] <ikonia> Lazybones_: you're just going to end up getting banned, and it's pointless to create that situation
[12:03] <Lazybones_> yeah, but it srtill works.
[12:03] <mmorais> can anyone help me?
[12:03] <mmorais> Please?
[12:03] <mmorais> I am about to hack you all
[12:03] <mmorais> !!!!!!!!!!!!
[12:03] <Lazybones_> laterz, wont be back with non ubuntu questions, never realised it was such a big thing
[12:03] <lotuspsychje> A[D]minS: are you using vpnc from repos or compiled?
[12:04] <A[D]minS> lotuspsychje, i tried both
[12:04] <A[D]minS> let me know which one you want me to use and i'll install it in 30 secs
[12:04] <lotuspsychje> A[D]minS: well just found some url that says: Notice the message lifetime_ike_process: Assertion a->next->type == IKE_ATTRIB_LIFE_DURATION failed. It tells us that something went wrong while dealing the IKE Key Lifetime which is unfortunatelly hardcoded in the vpnc source.
[12:05] <Lazybones_> k, ciao, sorry for any offence caused, none was intended..
[12:05] <A[D]minS> lotuspsychje, amazing :) , then how i can comeover this crash :(
[12:06] <lotuspsychje> A[D]minS: not sure, thats why i asked about the vpnc version..
[12:06] <lotuspsychje> A[D]minS: you could try using the one from official repos and sudo service network-manager restart
[12:06] <lotuspsychje> A[D]minS: did you clean install or upgrade 16.04?
[12:09] <lotuspsychje> A[D]minS: this is the url that explains the patch/older version...but not sure how that would fit in 16.04: http://www.justdailynotes.com/fortinet/linux/2015/02/14/Fortigate-IPSec-Linux-NetworkManager/
[12:09] <A[D]minS> lotuspsychje, its a clean, and ok i'll reinstall the one from repos
[12:10] <lotuspsychje> A[D]minS: if you cant get the 16.04 vpnc version straight, you might wanna consider a new bug?
[12:10] <A[D]minS> lotuspsychje, its installing already via apt-get install network-manager-vpnc-gnome
[12:10] <A[D]minS> and it already installed .../vpnc_0.5.3r550-2build1_amd64.deb
[12:10] <A[D]minS> I'll test again
[12:11] <lotuspsychje> A[D]minS: yes thats xenials version
[12:11] <TestIrchatNICK> hi
[12:11] <luckybunny> does anyone know how to stop my mouse cursor from 'timing out'? If I leave the mouse idles for about 3 seconds, it disappears. The disappearance isn't a problem in itself, since it reappears when I move the mouse, but I'm finding that any input from the mouse except moving and clicking also ceases to be picked up. The result is that I have to move the mouse a little in order to scroll with the whe
[12:11] <luckybunny> wheel*
[12:12] <A[D]minS> lotuspsychje, same error :D   vpnc: vpnc.c:1206: lifetime_ike_process: Assertion `a->next->type == IKE_ATTRIB_LIFE_DURATION' failed.
[12:12] <A[D]minS> I'll check the URL which you've shared with me
[12:12] <A[D]minS> thx!
[12:13] <luckybunny> ok more like 1.5 seconds than 3
[12:13] <guest123> luckybunny, does that happen in full screen?
[12:14] <luckybunny> full screen what?
[12:14] <guest123> the mouse timeout.
[12:14] <luckybunny> my desktop display is full screen. only the windows within it are not
[12:15] <guest123> Might be the mouse. Is it wireless?
[12:15] <brainwash> luckybunny: is unclutter installed and running?
[12:16] <luckybunny> seems so
[12:16] <brainwash> there you go
[12:17] <lotuspsychje> A[D]minS: this might also be usefull: http://rolandtapken.de/blog/2015-06/how-connect-fortigate-ipsec-vpn-using-linux
[12:20] <scatterp> can someone help me with ubuntu 16.04 i cant seem to install anything openssh-server does not exist and mono-runtime doesnt exist ?
[12:21] <guest123> scatterp: 'apt-get install ssh' doesn't work?
[12:21] <EDinNY> Help mount my camera? just did a fresh install of 16.04, and it no longer mounts my camera.
[12:22] <scatterp> nope
[12:22] <izabera> guys i just bought a new laptop, a cheap hp 250 g4 and wifi it's not working, it's a realted 8723be and the interface is greyed out and i can't even see which networks are there
[12:22] <morsnowski> scatterp, try tasksel, worked fine for me
[12:23] <riverloop> Hi, I see two menus for gnome-terminal in 16.04.
[12:23] <riverloop> Anyone else experiencing the same issue?
[12:23] <guest123> izabera: Check the realtek site. There usually pretty good about linux drivers on their site.
[12:23] <izabera> will do, thanks
[12:23] <scatterp> morsnowski: i cant install tasksel in ubuntu either...
[12:23] <morsnowski> what error message do you get
[12:24] <dystopia> hello, i just installed ubuntu but when i go to set the desktop resolution there is no option for 1920x1080, the default for monitor
[12:24] <dystopia> http://i.imgur.com/aw07IM4.jpg
[12:24] <scatterp> e: Unable to locate package tasksel
[12:24] <iSlayWyverns> 14.04 is SystemD?
[12:24] <dystopia> is there some easy way to fix this?
[12:24] <scatterp> morsnowski: e: Unable to locate package tasksel
[12:24] <morsnowski> scatterp, your network is down ?
[12:24] <gdi2k> I've just installed 16.04. Very nice, but all USB devices disconnect and reset every few mins. I can't type, USB disks get disconnected and reconnect, mouse doesn't move until it is reset etc. how can I diagnose this?
[12:24] <scatterp> morsnowski:  no i am connected via network hrm wait
[12:24] <smarttang> driver error..
[12:24] <OerHeks> iSlayWyverns, no, as of 15.04 systemd is introduced
[12:24] <scatterp> morsnowski:  nope up
[12:25] <morsnowski> what do you get with sudo apt-get update
[12:26] <EDinNY> scatterp: to install ssh server, you now 'apt-get install ssh'
[12:26] <gdi2k> scatterp, was that for me? nothing, all up to date
[12:26] <neosuse> ubuntu es
[12:26] <scatterp> morsnowski: it does it except a couple of bits have has sum mismatch
[12:26] <neosuse> #ubuntu-es
[12:26] <neosuse> hola
[12:26] <neosuse> buenas tardes
[12:26] <morsnowski> neosuse, (/join #ubuntu-es)
[12:26] <dystopia> can any one help me set the desktop resolution to 1920x1080
[12:27] <dystopia> the option  is missing
[12:27] <EDinNY> dystopia: the option for that resolution, or the option to change it?
[12:27] <scatterp> EDinNY: oackage ssh is not available how ever it is refered to by another package......
[12:27] <morsnowski> scatterp, what did the apt-get update tell you?
[12:28] <scatterp> ill pastebin it one sec
[12:28] <dystopia> the option for the resolution
[12:28] <madalin> hi there
[12:28] <madalin> i have a problem
[12:28] <morsnowski> scatterp, and while you are doing it please also a ping ubuntu.com
[12:28] <EDinNY> dystopia: if that resolution is not available you likely have to install "additional drivers"
[12:28] <sdafsdf> dfasf
[12:28] <dystopia> fun
[12:29] <EDinNY> dystopia:  Settings>Additonal Drivers
[12:29] <mparm920> scatterp: you could need to enable the repos either through the gui or /etc/apt/source.list
[12:30] <dystopia> thx will have a look
[12:30] <madalin> I've upgrade 15.10 to 16.04 mate edition and at the mate tweak I can find Munity panel layoutt
[12:30] <scatterp> morsnowski: i forgot the ping but i did do ping google.com successfully so pastebin.com/TiWXYr0V
[12:30] <madalin> how i find it
[12:31] <madalin> or insatll it
[12:31] <lotuspsychje> madalin: perhaps the #ubuntu-mate guys know that one
[12:31] <cfhowlett> madalin, mate doesn't use the unity panel
[12:31] <scatterp> mparm920: are the repos disabled by default ?
[12:32] <morsnowski> scatterp, as mparm920 said the repos are disabled. Funny ... they weren't for me
[12:32] <mparm920> scatterp: if you choose only security updates during the install most can be disabled
[12:33] <TestIrchatNICK> HH
[12:33] <madalin> one of new feature of 16.04 mate is that you can choose from mate tweak some could panel layout Munity and is like unity
[12:33] <scatterp> mparm920: / morsnowski  how can i enable them ?
[12:33] <morsnowski> and  just because I haven't done so i along while, if the developers are here. Well Done guys, I really like 16.04!
[12:33] <volodya> 11
[12:34] <morsnowski> scatterp, I've a gnome flashback so I'm not the right person to ask
[12:35] <mparm920> scatterp: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[12:37] <nlsthzn> hi, is there a known issue with installing deb's from the net (example chrome browser) via the Ubuntu Software Centre in Ubuntu 16.04.  When I closk install it says installing for a brief moment and then the button reverts to saying install.  And nothing else happens...
[12:38] <r0x> Hello all
[12:38] <r0x> I have sound problem on Ubuntu 16
[12:38] <r0x> could somebody help to solve this ?
[12:38] <cfhowlett> nlsthzn, get more info.  shut down the software center and install via command line
[12:38] <lotuspsychje> r0x: tried a pulseaudio restart?
[12:38] <r0x> yes
[12:38] <lotuspsychje> !sound | r0x
[12:39] <nlsthzn> cfhowlett, it installs fine via gdebi, the deb is fine
[12:39] <epicCane> If you uninstall python would that break ubuntu
[12:39] <cfhowlett> epicCane, yes
[12:40] <r0x> sorry closed chat
[12:40] <lotuspsychje> r0x: tail -f /var/log/syslog and fool around with your sound a bit please
[12:40] <scatterp> mparm920: morsnowski  all is normal now thanks :)
[12:40] <lotuspsychje> r0x: perhaps some usefull errors arise
[12:41] <mparm920> scatterp: what did you find for the solution
[12:41] <guest123> r0x, is it from the hdmi?
[12:41] <r0x> I don't see anything in errors
[12:41] <scatterp> gui enable all and switch to main server rather than bulgaria then apt-get update
[12:42] <r0x> it's intel HDA something sound card
[12:42] <Nairwolf> hi guys, I would like to install Xubuntu 16.04 and I've just seen this issue on LP : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1366546
[12:42] <Nairwolf> Could you explain me this issue ?
[12:42] <mparm920> scatterp: glad to here that
[12:42] <Nairwolf> I have a laptop with an efi system
[12:42] <Nairwolf> Am I concerned by this bug ?
[12:42] <r0x> what to do next ?
[12:42] <OerHeks> Nairwolf, old bug from 2014-09-07... do you think you encounter that old issue?
[12:43] <Nairwolf> It's writen on Xubuntu release notes : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/FinalRelease/Xubuntu
[12:43] <Nairwolf> and it seems to be relevant as people are still talking about this issue
[12:43] <Nairwolf> OerHeks: Have you installed Ubuntu recently with a efi firmware ?
[12:44] <r0x> I don't have sound icon in task bar even
[12:44] <OerHeks> Nairwolf, stil, are you affected by this bug? releasenotes say it might not affect you ... no, i have no uefi bios myself
[12:45] <guest123> r0x, I've had the same problems. I had to tweak a config file for it.
[12:45] <r0x> could you advise what config
[12:45] <Nairwolf> yes, indeed OerHeks, it might not affect me, but I was searching for more information about this bug
[12:46] <Nairwolf> anyway, I will still try to install it with a /boot/efi partition created before
[12:47] <Guest40306> how to install rstudio ?
[12:48] <r0x> aplay -l
[12:48] <r0x> **** Список PLAYBACK устройств ****
[12:48] <r0x> карта 0: Intel [HDA Intel], устройство 0: AD1882 Analog [AD1882 Analog]
[12:48] <r0x>   Подустройства: 1/1
[12:48] <r0x>   Подустройство №0: subdevice #0
[12:48] <r0x> карта 0: Intel [HDA Intel], устройство 2: AD1882 Alt Analog [AD1882 Alt Analog]
[12:48] <r0x>   Подустройства: 1/1
[12:48] <luckybunny> yay getting rid of unclutter sorted everything after a reebot. Thanks guys
[12:48] <guest123> r0x, what do you get with "cat /proc/asound/card0/codec* | grep Codec"
[12:48] <luckybunny> reboot*
[12:49] <guest123> r0x, sometimes the sound comes out the jack instead of the speaker. Play some music to try.
[12:50] <guest123> the output gets mixed up.
[12:50] <r0x> there is no audio icon (volume icon) in tray
[12:51] <r0x> in settings there is alsa plugin container enabled
[12:53] <r0x> what can I do now ?
[12:53] <r0x> music is playing but no sound
[12:54] <r0x> what are the basic steps to debug audio
[12:55] <lotuspsychje> !sound | r0x
[12:55] <guest123> I worked through the ubuntu guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto; and the file I modified /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
[12:55] <lotuspsychje> !sound
[12:56] <akira> Hello.
[12:57] <Guest74462> How may I enable the "root" user at the graphical login screen such as is in Kali Linux?
[12:57] <ikonia> Guest74462: no
[12:57] <ikonia> Guest74462: it's not something you should do
[12:57] <r0x> ubuntu 16 uses alsa and pulse audio ?
[12:57] <Guest74462> Thank you, ikonia, I shall ignore your kind warning.
[12:57] <nlsthzn> btw, found a bug report for my issue - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-software/+bug/1573206 thanks for the assistance cfhowlett
[12:58] <_akira> ikonia, I would also like to request you not to withhold information from me based on personal opinion.
[12:59] <ikonia> _akira: sorry, thats not how it work
[12:59] <ikonia> works
[12:59] <dchapman> !16.04
[12:59] <_akira> ikonia: Excuse me?
[12:59] <ikonia> I can share what info / help who I want / how I want
[12:59] <ikonia> _akira: in the same way you can ignore my information and advice
[12:59] <_akira> ikonia, you are insulting my competence.
[12:59] <ikonia> _akira: no, I'm not
[13:00] <ikonia> I'm advising you to not enable the root login at the gui, nothing more
[13:00] <_akira> ikonia, could you then explain why?
[13:01] <ikonia> _akira: yes, the whole ubuntu security model is based around the root account being locked, taking this up another level to the gui will open up security holes, cause mainteance problems (lots of programs/configs depend on not being run as root) and cause increased risk of damage with maintenance
[13:01] <dchapman> akik: This channel is manned by volunteers. As such, anyone can offer (or not offer) advice and solutions.
[13:01] <_akira> ikonia, fair enough. Would you care to help me further?
[13:02] <dchapman> _akira: ^^
[13:02] <ikonia> _akira: with what ?
[13:02] <_akira> ikonia, I find it utterly beyond annoying having to keep entering my password after logging in. Is there a solution to this?
[13:02] <ikonia> _akira: yes, set your sudo rules up to not prompt for a password
[13:03] <ikonia> _akira: there are negative implications to that, but far less than enabling the root account
[13:03] <ikonia> _akira: to be honest though - what are you doing that needs root privileges all the time ?
[13:03] <pratyush> How to cancel an ongoing download in software center in 16.04?
[13:03] <ikonia> there should only be a few situations that you need root
[13:03] <_akira> ikonia, I added the line in /etc/sudoers containing the "NOPASSWD" keyword, but to no avail.
[13:03] <dchapman> Or, extend the time period that sudoing will time out.
[13:03] <ikonia> _akira: it's not as simple as just nopasswd - why don't you explain what's causing you the problem in a little more detail
[13:04] <_akira> ikonia, nothing beyond regular use of a Linux distribution.
[13:04] <_akira> That is: installing packages, removing packages, modifying configuraion files...
[13:04] <ikonia> _akira: so why do you need root all the time then ?
[13:04] <ikonia> there should be very little need for root elevation
[13:04] <_akira> ikonia, because I find it utterly annoying to have to enter my password too many times.
[13:04] <ikonia> _akira: it really shouldn't be used that much then
[13:05] <ikonia> but it's your choice what to do
[13:05] <akik> _akira: you can get a root shell with "sudo -i". not sure if that's what you want
[13:05] <_akira> ikonia, I am aware of this command, it has not helped.
[13:05] <ikonia> what do you mean it's not helped ?
[13:05] <_akira> ikonia, I tend to close terminal windows.
[13:05] <ikonia> then don't ?
[13:06] <ikonia> or setup no password properly
[13:06] <ikonia> or - stop doing so many things as root
[13:06] <_akira> ikona, the second suggestion is seems to be one that fits me.
[13:07] <wyoung> AnnoyedInAustral: You going to moring service?
[13:08] <_akira> "myusername ALL=(ALL:ALL) NOPASSWD:ALL" did not work.
[13:08] <_akira> (I put the line at the very end of the file)
[13:08] <ikonia> _akira: so I personally believe that if you can't figure out how to set sudo rules - you should not be changing to no password
[13:08] <ikonia> it's almost like a basic entrace exam
[13:08] <wyoung> _akira: you probably need to log out then back in again
[13:08] <ikonia> entrance
[13:09] <ikonia> sudo rules are parsed real time on each token expire
[13:14] <dystopia> how do i view installed programs
[13:14] <dystopia> im coming from a windows os and expecting some form of "start button"
[13:14] <ikonia> dystopia: have a look at https://help.ubuntu.com
[13:14] <dystopia> thanks
[13:14] <ikonia> dystopia: that will give you an overview of things you need to know when swapping from windows
[13:15] <zeroC> hm, i try to move windows with compiz "place wiundow", for steam it works for the "starting - login"-window but for the library it's not working, the plan was to shift both to the 2nd workspace
[13:15] <zeroC> any ideas?
[13:16] <dystopia> i just want to find the terminal really ikonia
[13:16] <dystopia> to start porting batch scripts to bash and testing stuff
[13:16] <ikonia> dystopia: ok ? not sure why that would change the advice I've just given you
[13:17] <dystopia> yeah i read that
[13:17] <ikonia> you've read the whole site ?
[13:18] <flaiks> hey
[13:18] <dystopia> it mentions a "super" key which my keyboard doesnt have
[13:18] <dystopia> to bring up unity
[13:18] <dystopia> which im not sure is installed or not
[13:18] <flaiks> syndaemon is automatically being run when i login, but not sure where I can modify the options it's being run with
[13:18] <ikonia> dystopia: it doesn't have a windows key ?
[13:18] <ikonia> unity is the desktop environment
[13:18] <dystopia> it was a win key yeah
[13:18] <flaiks> dystopia: super is usually the win key
[13:18] <ikonia> dystopia: the win key is the super key
[13:18] <ikonia> dystopia: that is the correct name for it
[13:19] <dystopia> ok
[13:19] <OerHeks> !info classicMenu-indicator
[13:19] <wyoung> ikonia: the Win key is MS branding, remember to use a TM and Copyright symbol every time you use it
[13:19] <guest123> flaiks: check for a config file. Might have to read the man page
[13:19] <flaiks> guest123: okay
[13:19] <ikonia> wyoung: don't be silly please
[13:20] <wyoung> ikonia: you can say super all you want, but if you use a specific brand name of it you need to use the correct referencing
[13:20] <wyoung> ikonia: as well
[13:20] <ikonia> wyoung: please stop being silly
[13:21] <dystopia> you should just refet to it as the win key so people know what you are on about
[13:21] <dystopia> heh
[13:21] <wyoung> ikonia: I didn't make this up, MS is a business and has registered that name
[13:21] <dystopia> but this is an irc chat, not a commercial use of the name win key
[13:21] <dystopia> so you don't need the tm
[13:22] <ikonia> wyoung: you're just creating a problem, stop being silly, you don't have to put copyright and trademark symbols into chat in a conversation, please stop being silly
[13:22] <ratrace> someone's playing attorney...
[13:22] <ikonia> it will end in a moment, I assure you
[13:23] <wyoung> ikonia: if you want to be sued, sure, don't include them
[13:23] <ikonia> wyoung: lets stop playing games, you make references to the same technologies in other channels yourself and don't use trademark names, so lets stop trying to create a problem for fun shall we
[13:23] <wyoung> ikonia: you are setting a bad precedence
[13:24] <dystopia> ok so hitting the "super" key brings up a search to search for installed apps
[13:24] <dystopia> dash
[13:24] <wyoung> :\
[13:24] <dystopia> is there some form of start menu alternative i can install?
[13:24] <wyoung> dystopia: why?
[13:25] <ikonia> dystopia: not really - the unity launcher and dash are pretty much the replacement
[13:25] <dystopia> because it's what i am use to, i don't like clutter taskbars with pinned items
[13:25] <dystopia> i just like the applications im running to be in the taskbar
[13:25] <ikonia> dystopia: think of the unity launcher as the start menu, and dash as teh search box under it
[13:25] <guest123> flaiks: don't know much about that program, but the client for your program uses xorg.conf
[13:25] <ikonia> dystopia: there is a taskbard extension for gnome - if it works in unity is a different question (which I don't know the answer to)
[13:25] <wyoung> dystopia: dash is great, unity is terrible though, I always have issues with windows popping up under other windows, ALT+TAB  issues and keyboard focus issues
[13:26] <wyoung> dystopia: so don't pin anything
[13:26] <dystopia> yes but then i want a way to launch apps
[13:26] <lotuspsychje> wyoung: dont make general statements like that
[13:26] <wyoung> shootbird: ubuntu != windows
[13:26] <moldo> hello
[13:26] <dystopia> hitting super key > then typing an app name > then clicking app name, is more hasstle than clicking a "start button" then clicking an app
[13:27] <ikonia> dystopia: practices don't really port over directly like for like
[13:27] <wyoung> lotuspsychje: general? it affects ubuntu 15.10, I have not tested 16.04, I am currently downloading it as we speak
[13:27] <ikonia> dystopia: you'll need to adjust
[13:27] <dystopia> 3 steps with typing vs 2 steps with clicking
[13:27] <lotuspsychje> wyoung: dont tell new users unity is terrible...
[13:27] <akik> dystopia: for a more familiar experience to windows, there are kde desktop and mate desktop
[13:27] <ikonia> dystopia: pin the apps you use commonly to the side bar
[13:27] <dystopia> sure i want to adjust thats why im here
[13:27] <wyoung> dystopia: press super key, type name then press enter, you don't need to leave the keyboard at all making it fast, simple and easy
[13:27] <wyoung> lotuspsychje: so I should lie to them/
[13:27] <ikonia> you're entitled to your opinion,
[13:27] <wyoung> lotuspsychje: that would be unethical
[13:28] <wyoung> lotuspsychje: do you kill kittens and puppies too?
[13:28] <wyoung> lotuspsychje: or is that ok?
[13:28] <ikonia> wyoung: stop this
[13:28] <ikonia> wyoung: you've been warned about this sort of silly statment
[13:28] <ratrace> just kickban the troll... innit obvious?
[13:28] <wyoung> ikonia: so I don't have a point?
[13:28] <wyoung> ikonia: or is it out of topic
[13:28] <ikonia> wyoung: you have an opinion - you're welcome to it
[13:28] <dystopia> [14:27:19] <akik> dystopia: for a more familiar experience to windows, there are kde desktop and mate desktop
[13:28] <wyoung> ikonia: what is your resoning
[13:28] <guest123> dystopia: I might add lubuntu to the suggestions for a person coming from windows. Looks most familiar
[13:29] <dystopia> can i install kde in ubuntu or need another linux os
[13:29] <dystopia> ?
[13:29] <wyoung> ikonia: great, then I will express said opionon
[13:29] <dystopia> ok will do some reading guest123
[13:29] <ikonia> wyoung: please express it with a bit of thought and tact - eg: I don't personally like unity
[13:29] <wyoung> ikonia: you want me to add on fluff words to my statements? ok I can do that
[13:29] <ikonia> dystopia: I'd suggest giving unity a chance (I don't like it myself either) as it is the main desktop of ubuntu - it's going to be the one/target that canonical will progress
[13:29] <lotuspsychje> wyoung: if you want to discuss likes/dislikes #ubuntu-discuss
[13:29] <wyoung> lotuspsychje: I am there now
[13:30] <ikonia> dystopia: you'll have to adapt anyway with the move from windows - so maybe give the core component a chance
[13:32] <Release_> greetings how to get correct prompt in newly created user
[13:32] <Release_> all i have now is $
[13:33] <Release_> it doesnt show current dir
[13:33] <guest123> Release: you're at /home/user/
[13:33] <Release_> yes i know
[13:33] <ratrace> Release_: which shell?
[13:33] <ikonia> I assume you've not created it with the default user setup
[13:34] <Release_> indeed ikonia
[13:34] <Release_> i used default
[13:34] <Release_> -m
[13:34] <Release_> only
[13:34] <Release_> to create home base
[13:34] <Release_> nottin else
[13:34] <guest123> I thought the users gui can change it under advanced settings
[13:34] <ikonia> if you look at the PS1 shell variable that will show you the current shell setup
[13:34] <ikonia> Release_: so if you use -m -k /etc/skel that should setup the default environment for a new user
[13:34] <Release_> should i recrate it again ikonia
[13:35] <Release_> del user and add again
[13:35] <Release_> useradd -m -k /etc/skel user
[13:35] <ikonia> or set the PS1 enviornment varaible correctly
[13:35] <moldo> hello, i want to be a system and network admin
[13:36] <moldo> i m looking for a mentor
[13:36] <ikonia> not going to find one here
[13:36] <moldo> i understand then i should hire one
[13:36] <ratrace> moldo: start using Gentoo, that'll teach you a lot. ;)
[13:36] <moldo> really ? :)  gentoo
[13:36] <ikonia> ratrace: no, sorry,
[13:36] <ikonia> moldo: no
[13:36] <moldo> no
[13:37] <ratrace> yeah, I'm serious.
[13:37] <moldo> i already tried gentoo it takes age to compile stuff
[13:37] <ikonia> moldo: I suggest you look at training courses, this channel is only really for ubuntu support
[13:37] <ikonia> sorry
[13:37] <moldo> thank ikonia
[13:37] <dystopia> my sudo password doesent work now
[13:37] <dystopia> :Z
[13:37] <dystopia> i don't think this os is for me
[13:37] <ikonia> dystopia: it's your normal user password
[13:37] <ikonia> not a special password
[13:38] <dystopia> yeah that what i entered
[13:38] <dystopia> 3x times
[13:38] <ikonia> dystopia: what is the exact command you are using please
[13:38] <dystopia> jse@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get update
[13:38] <dystopia> [sudo] password for jse:
[13:38] <dystopia> Sorry, try again.
[13:38] <ikonia> dystopia: so if that is your user password you have done something
[13:39] <ikonia> dystopia: I suggest you log out - and log back in to verify your user password
[13:39] <dystopia> ok
[13:40] <FireArrow133> Why the hell does every input I put into "Your computer's name" tells me "That name already exists on the network" despite it not existing on the network?
[13:40] <Release_> it still doesnt show correct path in prompt
[13:41] <dontknow> where can i find 16.04 netinstall iso?
[13:41] <ikonia> Release_: what is PS1 set to
[13:41] <Release_> how can i see
[13:41] <OerHeks> dontknow, see http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/netboot/xenial/
[13:41] <ikonia> Release_: how did you set it
[13:41] <Release_> as i said i did useradd -m user
[13:41] <FireArrow133> I'm trying to install Ubuntu but I'm getting this error on everything I put in that text field.
[13:42] <Release_> passwd user password
[13:42] <Release_> thats all i did
[13:42] <ikonia> Release_: yes, and I told you what to do to fix it
[13:42] <guest123> dontknow: the ubuntu download page, but look under advanced
[13:42] <Release_> window was filled
[13:42] <Release_> didnt see
[13:42] <Release_> sorry
[13:42] <ikonia> Release_: you've done neither of the two options I told you to do
[13:42] <ikonia> Release_: how do you expect it to magically start working
[13:42] <dontknow> OerHeks, guest123 thanks
[13:42] <Release_> and i dont know how to change PS1
[13:42] <ikonia> Release_: you did see - as you responded with statements to it
[13:42] <Release_> i wasnt sure how to altho i saw
[13:46] <akik> Release_: do you have sh or bash as your shell?
[13:47] <Release_> bash
[13:47] <Release_> how can i be sure ?
[13:47] <Release_> how to check ?
[13:47] <akik> Release_: you can check the line from /etc/passwd with your username
[13:48] <Release_> ok
[13:48] <akik> Release_: the shell is at the end of the line
[13:48] <Release_> /home/unreal:/bin/sh
[13:48] <guest123> You can check where /bin/sh links to. Might be dash
[13:48] <akik> Release_: ok that's the problem. on ubuntu sh is dash nowadays
[13:49] <Release_> hm ok
[13:51] <Release_> so how to change
[13:51] <Release_> cause paths are essential to see
[13:51] <tyrpu> hello everyone, is it expected that the software manager called "software" doesn't work? I can't even install .deb packages, it just sits there with the rotating logo.
[13:51] <akik> Release_: you can use chsh to do it
[13:51] <Release_> not having to pwd all the time
[13:52] <Release_> chsh --shell /bin/sh
[13:52] <Release_> would this work ?
[13:52] <guest123> Are you using gui?
[13:52] <akik> Release_: just "chsh" works fine
[13:52] <Release_> ok
[13:52] <Release_> in user
[13:52] <Release_> or root ?
[13:52] <akik> user
[13:52] <Release_> ok
[13:53] <guest123> tyrpu: you can use cli
[13:53] <Release_> it keeps prompting for password
[13:53] <akik> Release_: enter your password
[13:53] <Release_> root password ?
[13:53] <guest123> yes
[13:53] <Release_> ok
[13:53] <akik> Release_: or was this for a new user account?
[13:54] <guest123> this is for yours
[13:54] <Release_> nee user
[13:54] <Release_> new user
[13:54] <akik> Release_: if for your own, just use chsh
[13:54] <Release_> i want it as default
[13:54] <Release_> for all new created users
[13:54] <Release_> using home
[13:55] <guest123> Release:I have and idea but it may not work.
[13:55] <Release_> chsh: PAM authentication failed
[13:55] <Release_> damn
[13:56] <akik> Release_: you can change the default shell for new users in /etc/default/useradd
[13:56] <Release_> while its the root pass
[13:56] <_heimdall> Hello. I am running artificial intelligence heuristic tests at the kernel level on a virtual machine and I was wondering if there was a way to make it so that my user's account doesn't require me entering the sudo password all the time. Is this possible in any way?
[13:56] <Release_> ok
[13:56] <akik> oh wow the default for new users is /bin/sh
[13:56] <tyrpu> _heimdall: possible, not recommended.
[13:57] <grummy> what do I do if xrandr says "X Error of failed request:  BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes)"
[13:57] <guest123> Release: go sudo su, authenticate; then chsh 'username'
[13:57] <_heimdall> tyrpu: Okay?
[13:58] <_heimdall> tyrpu: I mean as I said I am running a virtual machine, I assure you that nothing bad will happen.
[14:02] <tyrpu> _heimdall: you need to edit the sudoers file
[14:02] <_heimdall> tyrpu, yes, however "penguin ALL=(ALL:ALL) NOPASSWD:ALL" seems to have no effect.
[14:02] <uebera||> _heimdall: Look at the NOPASSWD option for /etc/sudoers
[14:03] <dystopia> fun kde failed to install
[14:03] <tyrpu> _heimdall: logout
[14:03] <dystopia> reported it and it said the bug report has already been submitted
[14:04] <_heimdall> tyrpu, I rebooted. Should I log out instead?
[14:04] <uebera||> Not if you rebooted after adding the NOPASSWD.
[14:04] <_heimdall> I rebooted...
[14:05] <tyrpu> _heimdall: what is the point of not requiring a password? just login as root every time
[14:05] <_heimdall> tyrpu, but the graphical login screen does not allow root.
[14:05] <akik> _heimdall: i don't know if this applies to you but check anyway "When multiple entries match for a user, they are applied in order.  Where there are multiple matches, the last match is used (which is not necessarily the most specific match)."
[14:06] <_heimdall> akik: THe nopasswd line is the last line in the file.
[14:06] <guest123> dystopia. Ubuntu today is confusing. Try lubuntu. Ubuntu internals with simple desktop
[14:06] <Guest22775> hi
[14:06] <dystopia> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ktp-accounts-kcm/+bug/1490659
[14:07] <dystopia> gave me this error/bug report
[14:07] <Guest22775> will the ubuntu kernel in 16.04 support all btrfs-options?
[14:07] <uebera||> tyrpu: This is not the same, of course.
[14:07] <dystopia> guest123 i just want something very lightweight, without a bunch of apps pre installed, basically want a gui with some form of startmenu for launching apps
[14:07] <dystopia> what os do you think is best
[14:08] <Guest22775> got problem to mount an btrfs-sd-card ...
[14:08] <uebera||> _heimdall: Try it with another user account which does not have an entry like this (either create on or do it with www-data which should be safe for experiments)
[14:09] <_heimdall> Huh
[14:09] <guest123> dystopia. Lubuntu. Check the screenshots if you want at lubuntu.net
[14:13] <dystopia> thanks guest123
[14:13] <dystopia> ubuntu was a fun wast of four hours
[14:13] <dystopia> thanks for the help you peeps tried to give me
[14:13] <dystopia> o/
[14:13] <AndroUser> Ubuntu me is also lean and fully loaded out of the box
[14:13] <AndroUser> Mate*
[14:13] <dystopia> bloated out of the box andatche
[14:13] <dystopia> AndroUser
[14:13] <viccuad> Hi folks. Does anybody have gnome's software center working on Ubuntu Gnome 16.04? (I'm going to do a tupperlinux afternoon for some friends, and that would be better to have than Ubuntu's software center)
[14:15] <guest123> viccuad: Synaptic works ok. You have to install it though.
[14:15] <viccuad> guest123: I'm looking more for appstream based solutions, ala gnome or ubuntu software center, since the folks I would be showcasing it to are complete linux newbies
[14:16] <viccuad> I'm just puzzled why gnome's software center doesn't work on ubuntu gnome (yet works on and is the default on ubuntu)
[14:17] <wyoung> dystopia: ssshh, you will hurt ikonia's feelings, he doesn't like it when you say bad (yet true) statements against ubuntu
[14:18] <viccuad> well well, now it works, this is awesome \o/
[14:18] <lotuspsychje> wyoung: no offtopic chitchat in this channel please
[14:19] <wyoung> lotuspsychje: that sounded like offtopic chitchat, join #ubuntu-offtopic or #ubuntu-discuss to continue
[14:19] <_cb> All of a sudden I have a different UI it says "Activities" in the menu bar. Is this something new?
[14:19] <bazhang> wyoung, please stop
[14:19] <wyoung> bazhang: offtopic ---^
[14:19] <chinslap> wyoung: you're a rather poor excuse for a troll
[14:20] <wyoung> chinslap:  ---^
[14:24] <b3nji> Anybody struggling to install Ubuntu Gnome 16.04 due to a GRUB install error?
[14:24] <guest123> What kind of error?
[14:25] <b3nji> "The grub-efi-amd64-signed' package failed to install into /target.
[14:28] <guest123> Have you tried to partition manually?
[14:31] <dtgr> I
[14:33] <dtgr> I've had a mishap with dd, one partition lost. Anyone have file recovery programs to recommend? I know of testdisk, foremost and scalpel
[14:33] <lotuspsychje> dtgr: photorec inside testdisk is pretty nice
[14:34] <ikonia> won't do much with dd though
[14:34] <ikonia> as the data has already been replaced with whatever the if was
[14:34] <ikonia> (if =)
[14:34] <ikonia> it's not replaced the pointer, it's replaced the acutal data on the file system
[14:35] <dtgr> I have a 1 tb disk, and wrote a gig sized iso file, so there is still a lot of salveagable data I hope
[14:36] <ikonia> dtgr: what was the command you used exactly
[14:36] <dtgr> i dd'd to the wrong /dev/sd*
[14:36] <ikonia> dtgr: what was the exact command you used
[14:45] <SergalSwagger> hey, everytime i try and load ubuntu it goes to a busybox prompt, can someone help me fix it please
[14:46] <user_> Hi, when I install kubuntu 16.04 , I did not find ZFS file system , why ?
[14:47] <hggdh> user_: zfs is loaded, but not active until you create a zfs filesystem
[14:47] <hggdh> user_: lsmod | grep zfs
[14:48] <SergalSwagger>  hey, everytime I start ubuntu it goes to busybox, can someone help me fix it
[14:48] <mridul> I installed the new 16.04 release of Ubuntu Mate. Does it support installing docker containers?
[14:48] <user_> hggdh When I install kubuntu 16.04 , I can't  choose ZFS as file system for root
[14:49] <user_> why?
[14:49] <hggdh> user_: sorry, I do not use kubuntu
[14:50] <bazhang> !info docker | mridul
[14:50] <SergalSwagger> it started after i ran out of disk space then restarte
[14:50] <lerner> if I use ubuntu as a client, do I need mysql?
[14:50] <user_> Is ubuntu 16.04 supports ZFS when installation ?
[14:50] <imnotarobot> Hello everyone, I am trying to find current information about the default LUKS/full disk encryption settings on 16.04 install. I want to know, what level of protection do you get with the default settings?
[14:50] <bazhang> apt-cache search docker mridul
[14:50] <GODINEEDHELP> so i have a question for you glorious people
[14:51] <mridul> ubottu, thank you. also thanks bazhang I am a newbie to IRC :-)
[14:51] <SergalSwagger> how do i fix it?
[14:51] <GODINEEDHELP> so my system freezes and crashes like every half hour and the only solution is to force shut it down.
[14:52] <GODINEEDHELP> any fix?
[14:52] <SergalSwagger> the only way i can get to the files is via a live cd
[14:52] <bazhang> GODINEEDHELP, what version, what ram/gpu, what error logs do you have so far pastebin link us
[14:52] <SwedeMike> imnotarobot: I don't know about 16.04 specifically, I've only done this historically, but the encryption chosen is typically SHA256 or equivalent. Basically impossible to break. However, you still have to enter the passphrase at bootup and the key is in memory, so there are vectors there where you don't get any added protection.
[14:52] <chinslap> GODINEEDHELP: yes
[14:53] <GODINEEDHELP> 16.04 4gb ram not sure gpu i know intel and how do i find the error logs
[14:53] <imnotarobot> SwedeMike: That's fine, I was curious as to the default settings and what type of encryption it uses, so its not AES-256?
[14:53] <GODINEEDHELP> im very new to ubuntu
[14:54] <imnotarobot> GODINEEDHELP: Maybe you should try and run a full memtest86 cycle, also try to run harddisk diagnostic tools?
[14:54] <sufy> can i upgrade WSL to 16.04 also?>
[14:54] <GODINEEDHELP> how do i run a memtest
[14:54] <compdoc> GODINEEDHELP, ubuntu on its own is stable, although I cant speak for the new version
[14:55] <GODINEEDHELP> i had 14 and it did it as well
[14:55] <compdoc> memtest86 is free. have to burn it to a cd. But its also on the ubuntu install dvd
[14:55] <SergalSwagger> it used to boot fine, now it doesn't
[14:55] <compdoc> GODINEEDHELP, sounds like a hardware problem then
[14:56] <imnotarobot> GODINEEDHELP: you can chose to run memtest86 instead of launching ubuntu install on the medium you used to install ubuntu
[14:56] <compdoc> GODINEEDHELP, are you on the machine now?
[14:56] <imnotarobot> GODINEEDHELP: it is also avaible to you during GRUB boot
[14:56] <GODINEEDHELP> yes
[14:56] <GODINEEDHELP> i had windows less than a week ago and it never crashed
[14:56] <compdoc> open the disk utility and look at the SMART info for your hard drive
[14:56] <SergalSwagger> anyone?
[14:56] <sufy> irssi on WSL doesn't work properly
[14:57] <GODINEEDHELP> what is the smart info
[14:58] <tyrpu> Mr_Pan: tutto liquido
[14:58] <compdoc> GODINEEDHELP, it tells you the health of your hard drive. something very important, along with memtest86
[14:58] <SwedeMike> imnotarobot: I don't know what the default settings are. In 14.04 it seems to have been aes, now that I check my root partition there.
[14:59] <GODINEEDHELP> im running the program called disks is that the right one
[14:59] <squinty> GODINEEDHELP,  yes
[14:59] <compdoc> I thinnk so. theres a little gear icon you have to click
[14:59] <SergalSwagger> it falls to busybox when it tries to boot
[15:00] <compdoc> you have to select the drive, then click the little gear
[15:00] <GODINEEDHELP> the gear is showing me mounting and formatting and partions not any "samart" option
[15:00] <squinty> GODINEEDHELP,  upper right hand corner -> 3 horizontal lines icon
[15:00] <imnotarobot> GODINEEDHELP: Do you still have the USB/CD-rom you used to install Ubuntu from? Boot up with that one, and run a full cycle of memtest86. It will take many hours
[15:01] <EDinNY> Flash?  installing flashplugin-installer did not seem to do it for me
[15:01] <GODINEEDHELP> it said the disk is ok
[15:01] <compdoc> good
[15:01] <compdoc> no reallocated sectors?
[15:01] <GODINEEDHELP> ill try that later imnotarobot
[15:01] <adx_> hi
[15:01] <adx_> So....
[15:02] <SergalSwagger> i need to get this working as it has importaint work on it
[15:02] <GODINEEDHELP> im also runing a selftest on it now
[15:02] <adx_> For a more traditional desktop environment.... but with a bit more flare and 2016 feel than xfce/lxde....
[15:02] <adx_> any suggestions_
[15:02] <adx_> ?
[15:03] <AndroUser> Try mate adx_
[15:04] <adx_> AndroUser, whats the package name for that?
[15:05] <user_> Is possible install Ubuntu with ZFS as file System for root?
[15:05] <user_> ?
[15:05] <AndroUser> http://wiki.mate-desktop.org/download
[15:05] <imnotarobot> adx_: check out cinnamon
[15:06] <imnotarobot> adx_: it is the default desktop enviroment for Linux Mint, highly recommended
[15:06] <user_> Is possible install Ubuntu 16.04 with ZFS as file System for root?
[15:07] <GODINEEDHELP_> is there any way to move files withoug having to open terminal and typing gksu nautilus everytime
[15:07] <gdi2k_> I have just installed 16.04. I have a dual-screen set up. Sometimes, when I move the cursor from one screen to the other, one of the screens goes blank for two seconds, then returns. It's extremely annoying. Never had this with prior Ubuntu versions. This is with Intel graphics on a Broadwell laptop (Lenovo X250) connected to external Dell monitors
[15:08] <tennis_> GODINEEDHELP_, use cp?
[15:08] <GODINEEDHELP_> whats cp?
[15:08] <tennis_> it's cli copy
[15:08] <GODINEEDHELP_> sorry vey new to linux
[15:08] <tennis_> yea do some googling
[15:08] <tennis_> cp, mv, ls, mkdir
[15:08] <user_> ?
[15:08] <tennis_> bread and butter
[15:08] <user_> ?
[15:08] <user_> Is possible install Ubuntu 16.04 with ZFS as file System for root?
[15:08] <GODINEEDHELP_> i have been
[15:09] <tennis_> http://www.computerhope.com/unix/ucp.htm
[15:09] <tennis_> http://www.rapidtables.com/code/linux/cp.htm
[15:09] <AndroUser> User_, that is not an option in the installation at this time, it is my understanding that the zfs support is meant to be used as a user land storage option not ready to be used as the primary file system so it is not available as an option in the installation.  That said, you could format the disks as you please during the install process an see if the install fails
[15:10] <root___14> hey
[15:10] <root___14> how do i log in irssi
[15:10] <tennis_> don't give up. Create some test files in your home directory with a text editor, open a terminal and try to cp them somewhere else
[15:11] <user_> AndroUser thanks
[15:11] <ThePendulum> 'lo
[15:11] <root___14> :P
[15:13] <root___14> vdmkagomrlga
[15:13] <root___14> reag
[15:13] <root___14> reg
[15:13] <root___14> re
[15:13] <root___14> ag
[15:13] <root___14> rsg
[15:15] <grummy> Could someone help me get the proper res to show up for my second monitor? xrandr doesn't want to let me set it
[15:19] <katie1231> I am trying to install ubuntu 16.04 over my previous debian install. From the ubuntu install screen i went to the advanced partition mapping screen and I see all of my debian partitions, how do i erase these?
[15:19] <MonkeyDust> katie1231  use gparted
[15:19] <katie1231> how?
[15:20] <MonkeyDust> in the live session, open gparted, you can then delete the partitions by clicking on them (or right clicking)
[15:20] <OerHeks> katie1231, or use 'whole disk' during install, or start up a live session
[15:23] <darkelfjuggalo> I am about to Reformat My Computer with Ubuntu 16.04 LTS... I had 15.10 but the Device Crashed due to the Intel Grapihcs and I was only today able to find a fix to it... Will I need to install an Intel Graphics Installer for 16.04, or will the OS work properly without one?
[15:23] <deadlock> Someone had the experience of broken X when tried to experiment 16.04 in live mode? (AMD GPU)
[15:23] <gdi2k_> darkelfjuggalo, I am having Intel graphics dramas with 16.04
[15:24] <gdi2k_> darkelfjuggalo, and the new Intel drivers installer is not available yet for it
[15:24] <darkelfjuggalo> so I am best reformatting to 15.10 until LTS gets a new installer?
[15:24] <gdi2k_> in my case, I have a dual screen set up, and frequently, when I move the mouse from one screen to another, one of the screens blanks for 2 - 3 secs. it's crazy annoying
[15:24] <MonkeyDust> darkelfjuggalo  i have intel graphics, never needed to install anything of the sort ... any idea what made it crash?
[15:25] <gdi2k_> darkelfjuggalo, you could try the live version first, see if it runs well as is
[15:26] <gdi2k_> I have a broadwell laptop with intel graphics. 14.04 worked well for me, but subsequent versions were not stable. I never tried the Intel packages though
[15:26] <darkelfjuggalo> MonkeyDust : ther was a Bug for a few versions of Ubuntuc with Intel Graphics Drivers, Xorg would Crash andthe screen would Garble or Reload the Log in screen... I didn'
[15:26] <BenderRodriguez> For some reason, doing apt-get update only freshes four sources
[15:26] <BenderRodriguez> any help would be greatly appreciated
[15:26] <darkelfjuggalo> i didnt experience this until 15.10 and I know Intel has a fix that supports 15.10 in this regard
[15:26] <gdi2k_> what generation is your laptop?
[15:27] <darkelfjuggalo> I just didn't know it until the computer was too far gone to bott up to a desktop
[15:27] <MonkeyDust> darkelfjuggalo  tbh, i skipped 15.10, went from 14.04 to 16.04
[15:27] <darkelfjuggalo> Desktop, almost 10 years old, but I can't buy a New one, and I'm not allowed to get rid of the Winblows on this Device.
[15:28] <gdi2k_> darkelfjuggalo, ah ok, so it's a desktop with integrated Intel graphics?
[15:28] <bohm4>  HexChat: 2.9.6 ** OS: Linux 3.19.0-32-generic x86_64 ** Distro: Debian jessie/sid ** CPU: 1 x Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3540M CPU @ 3.00GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 2.99GHz ** RAM: Physical: 2.0GB, 85.2% free ** Disk: Total: 19.1GB, 47.3% free ** VGA: InnoTek Systemberatung GmbH VirtualBox Graphics Adapter ** Sound: ICH - Intel 82801AA-ICH ** Ethernet: Intel Corporation 82540EM Gigabit Ethernet Controller ** Uptime: 3m 39s **
[15:28] <darkelfjuggalo> correct, gdi2k
[15:28] <gdi2k_> what CPU is it? cat /proc/cpuinfo
[15:29] <gdi2k_> model name
[15:29] <ThePendulum> Does anyone know why Ctrl + Shift + U might not work to enter unicode?
[15:29] <darkelfjuggalo> IDK... let me check if the spec sticker is still on it... i know the brand is Gateway... the only after market is an upgraded RAM capacity
[15:30] <Bashing-om> Gallomimia: OK, I am back .. what now is your status ?
[15:30] <ArminiusMATE> Greetings
[15:32] <Lucasss> hi all, can someone help me?
[15:32] <ArminiusMATE> Anyone around running Ubuntu on a PowerPC?
[15:33] <Bashing-om> Lucasss: No one knows 'til you state the issue .
[15:33] <bazhang> !ppc
[15:33] <Lucasss> I got stuck on installation, I keep getting "thermal reporting for required devices not enabled"
[15:34] <Lucasss> I can't even start the installation setup
[15:34] <ArminiusMATE> bazhang: I have tried both Lubuntu and MATE ... to no avail
[15:34] <darkelfjuggalo> gdi2k it is a GT546SE with Intel Pentium Dual Core, Intel Graphics Media Accelerator and a 320 Sata Hard Drive.
[15:34] <Lucasss> Ubuntu 16.04, on a Sony Vaio
[15:35] <V7> So ... I'm on 14.04 ... how is like 16 ?
[15:35] <katie1231> trying to launch gparted from the ubuntu install screen and ctrl + alt + t isn't working. Is that not the correct command?
[15:35] <bazhang> !notes  V7
[15:35] <bazhang> ach
[15:36] <katie1231> actually ctrl + alt + F2 won't open a tty either. hmm
[15:36] <bazhang> !notes | V7
[15:36] <V7> No no ... I read that ... I'm asking you ... guys with experience ..
[15:36] <davido> Those who wrote that document had experience.
[15:37] <V7> hmm .
[15:37] <davido> Want us to recant it here for you?
[15:37] <bazhang> try #ubuntu-discuss V7
[15:37] <V7> davido: +
[15:37] <V7> Should I install it or no xD
[15:37] <V7> ?
[15:37] <bazhang> this is support only not polling V7
[15:37] <gdi2k_> darkelfjuggalo, ok, so quite vintage ;) was wondering if it was in any way similar to mine. I have a 2015 laptop that's giving me trouble
[15:37] <V7> * Just asked *
[15:37] <bazhang> wrong channel V7
[15:38] <V7> affirmative
[15:38] <V7> MonkeyDust: Did this .. so ..
[15:39] <BenderRodriguez> Can Can anyone help me
[15:39] <EDinNY> which  flashplugin-installer should I be using?
[15:39] <BenderRodriguez> I'm so sad :(
[15:39] <BenderRodriguez> For some reason, doing apt-get update only freshes four sources
[15:39] <darkelfjuggalo> i told you almost a Decade... it was mid 2007 when my parents bought it...and my Harddrive is Fried on my Laptop, otherwise I'd be using it, granted I only got that in 2012, it's still old AF by computer standards
[15:39] <BenderRodriguez> I'm on Xenial
[15:40] <darkelfjuggalo> I think it is the HD that is fried... there were so many Bad Sectors after a scan, that the fact my OS booted was a miracle...it died a week later
[15:42] <darkelfjuggalo> i just noticed my 15.10 issue could be that i accidentally put a 36 Bit on a 64 Bit [but i remember in 05 that wouldnt matter, as long as you didnt put a 64 on a 32] so i dont know
[15:45] <davido> Hard drives are so cheap nowadays, if you have a hard drive with lots of bad sectors, swap it out.  Why mess around?
[15:46] <BenderRodriguez> anyone?
[15:46] <BenderRodriguez> ...
[15:46] <BenderRodriguez> :[
[15:46] <EriC^^> BenderRodriguez: ?
[15:46] <BenderRodriguez> For some reason, doing apt-get update only freshes four sources
[15:46] <BenderRodriguez> and I'm unable to install some key packages as it can't find dependencies
[15:46] <EriC^^> BenderRodriguez: type cat /etc/apt/sources.list | nc termbin.com 9999
[15:47] <BenderRodriguez> EriC^^, http://termbin.com/dxaj
[15:48] <EriC^^> BenderRodriguez: they look ok
[15:48] <BenderRodriguez> That's all ?
[15:48] <BenderRodriguez> SHouldn't there be a long list
[15:48] <EriC^^> they're put next to eachother
[15:48] <EriC^^> main restricted universe multiverse
[15:49] <EriC^^> there's also extras and partner
[15:49] <EriC^^> enable them from the software sources
[15:49] <BenderRodriguez> EriC^^, http://termbin.com/a6em
[15:49] <BenderRodriguez> when I do apt-get update
[15:49] <BenderRodriguez> well, here's the issue. I'm trying to install 'unifi' a package which should be in the default ubuntu repos
[15:49] <Bashing-om> BenderRodriguez: EriC^^ Depending on what you are trying to install, might need the "partner" repo enabled ??
[15:49] <BenderRodriguez> but it's erroing out due to not finding dependencies
[15:50] <EriC^^> !info unifi
[15:50] <BenderRodriguez> oh
[15:50] <teward> BenderRodriguez: by 'unifi' you mean the package for the Ubiquity UniFI APs?
[15:50] <BenderRodriguez> then I must have installed via a deb package?
[15:50] <BenderRodriguez> yes
[15:50] <BenderRodriguez> teward, I'm getting this error: http://termbin.com/24rt
[15:50] <teward> BenderRodriguez: that was never in the repos - it was a downloadable .deb
[15:50] <teward> designed for 14.04
[15:51] <BenderRodriguez> how do I install these dependencies?
[15:51] <teward> BenderRodriguez: I assume `apt-get install -f` doesn't resolve the dependencies.
[15:51] <teward> because that is suggested
[15:51] <BenderRodriguez> oh
[15:51] <EDinNY> Has anyone gotten Flash to work?
[15:51] <BenderRodriguez> I thought -f meant ignore errors
[15:52] <teward> BenderRodriguez: nope, it'll try and resolve issues.
[15:52] <teward> EDinNY: only via Chrome - since the Linux version is mostly unsupported by everywhere, and Chrome comes bundled with updated flash
[15:52] <teward> EDinNY: and that's really the only true way to keep getting good flash working
[15:53] <EDinNY> teward:  I installed Chrome from Google...still does not seem to work with flash
[15:54] <squinty> EDinNY,  might want to check out  http://www.webupd8.org/2014/05/install-fresh-player-plugin-in-ubuntu.html  ->  sudo apt-get install browser-plugin-freshplayer-pepperflash
[15:54] <teward> EDinNY: are you actually using Chrome then to view pages with flash files in them?
[15:55] <V7> Does here anyone knows band called Silversun Pickups ;) ? Just interesting ..
[15:55] <squinty> EDinNY,  was working ok in my 16.04 beta installs....haven't installed it yet on my fresh final 16.04 install so can't comment further
[15:55] <EDinNY> Hmmm...flash.com does not seem to move
[15:55] <teward> !offtopic | V7
[15:55] <V7> teward: I know ...
[15:56] <V7> teward: I wanted to ask here something without any possible meaning with topic :)
[15:56] <V7> sry
[15:56] <V7> :D
[15:56] <davido> V7 : This is also not the place for your social experiments.
[15:56] <liwei> 有人吗
[15:57] <V7> liwei: ahha :D
[15:57] <V7> davido: You;re right
[15:57] <V7> ;-;
[15:57] <davido> If you have an Ubuntu related discussion, there's #ubuntu-discuss If you have something midly off-topic, there's #ubuntu-offtopic. Otherwise, there are many thousands of other chatroom choices.
[15:58] <BenderRodriguez> ok new problem. When starting the unifi service, I get the following error: http://termbin.com/k0ty
[15:59] <jlim> 16.04 has serious issues with bluetooth
[15:59] <BenderRodriguez> Failed to start unifi.service: Unit unifi.service is masked.
[15:59] <BenderRodriguez> what does it mean
[15:59] <BenderRodriguez> is this perhaps caused by systemd/systemctl as opposed to the old service scripts?
[16:00] <davido> jlim : A more specific description of the problem you are having would probably stand a greater chance of getting a useful response.
[16:00] <jlim> no auto detect of existingly paired devices, no a2dp for streming audio
[16:01] <MonkeyDust> jlim  use blueman
[16:01] <jlim> MonkeyDust: blueman does not work natively in gnome desktop
[16:01] <jlim> MonkeyDust: and does not work properly either
[16:02] <jlim> don't the test things before they release it?
[16:03] <jlim> same thing when 14.04 was released
[16:03] <Zippy001> Hello, does anybody has a problem with VLC, segmentation fault (core dumped)?
[16:03] <Zippy001> Hello, does anybody has a problem with VLC, segmentation fault (core dumped)?
[16:04] <MonkeyDust> jlim  blueman works fine for me and has helped other people, ok
[16:04] <gbit86> In ubuntu 16.04 has anyone had issues with autokey-gtk? I cannot seem to set my hotkeys when I click on the button to do so. Running it with debug also does not give me any more info in the logs.
[16:05] <jlim> MonkeyDust: not working here
[16:05] <gbit86> I have resorted to just fixing it in the json, but the app still does not appear to work. I have found other ways to do what I was wanting, but I just want to report this somewhere incase this something that has gone unnoticed mostly.
[16:05] <jlim> what a steaming pile
[16:08] <Pinkamena_D> how can I get source for the currently running kernel? I have 3.19.0-58 in uname, but in apt-cache I see only linux-source-3.13.0.
[16:09] <Pinkamena_D> I want to try to modify a driver but I want to avoid installing another kernel version.
[16:09] <TJ-> Pinkamena_D: generally, "apt-get source <packagename>" ... "dpkg -l 'linux-image*' | grep ^ii" will list the installed kernel packages
[16:10] <TJ-> Pinkamena_D: or you could pull the source directly from the kernel git repo for that release, and checkout the tag
[16:11] <DrunkenDwarf> Hi all. I'm guessing that id a .deb is releases for 'amd' architectures, theres no way to really get it installed on another system?
[16:12] <ednardo> oi
[16:12] <Wulf> DrunkenDwarf: other system like arm architecture?
[16:12] <Wulf> DrunkenDwarf: then clearly no
[16:12] <Wulf> DrunkenDwarf: you'll have to recompile it
[16:12] <DrunkenDwarf> Wulf, yeah, armhf. .. (Chromebook with Ubuntu)
[16:13] <Pinkamena_D> TJ-: I see a bunch of 3.19.0-XX images in the dpkg command you said. However I have tried installing a kernal from kernel.org before and it caused a kernel panic, so I was looking for an easier solution with the package manager first before attempting that again .
[16:13] <TJ-> DrunkenDwarf: "amd64" architecture is 64-bit Intel/AMD/etc x86
[16:13] <sergio_> what is this????
[16:13] <TJ-> Pinkamena_D: are you using an LTS kernel on 14.04? in which cases the packages are linux-image-lts* I think
[16:14] <Pinkamena_D> yes, I installed 14.04 lts
[16:14] <DrunkenDwarf> I was afraid you were gonna say that :( shame, I like that software
[16:14] <BenderRodriguez> teward, were you able to install the unifi controller on xenial?
[16:14] <TJ-> DrunkenDwarf: we have armhf packages too
[16:14] <teward> BenderRodriguez: i haven't tried :P
[16:14] <BenderRodriguez> teward, it looks like it depends on an older version of openjdk which is removed in xenial
[16:15] <BenderRodriguez> there's openjdk 9 but not 7 or 6
[16:15] <teward> BenderRodriguez: given Xenial *just* released I'd wait for Ubiquity to update
[16:15] <Pinkamena_D> TJ-: however, the linux-image packages so not contain the full source tree to modify, only the compiled part, as far as I can see.
[16:15] <DrunkenDwarf> TJ-, not for GitKraken :)
[16:15] <Romme> what does the halt command do?
[16:15] <teward> BenderRodriguez: or use 14.04 (which *is* still supported heh)
[16:15] <Romme> i mean, how does it communicate with init?
[16:15] <BenderRodriguez> well this is an LTS version =/
[16:16] <BenderRodriguez> I skipped 15 just to wait for 16
[16:16] <teward> BenderRodriguez: it's also only been released for three days
[16:16] <teward> BenderRodriguez: again, LTS or not, if the Upstream relies on a version that's not available, then you have to wait for Upstream to update
[16:17] <teward> BenderRodriguez: I don't think it'll be immediately available for Xenial, but you can *try* and get an older version from Wily and try and install it in Xenial, but I don't recommend it
[16:18] <Pinkamena_D> also, when I do $apt-get source linux, I gets 3.13 even though I have 3.18 shown in uname. Is it possible that I have the wrong version somehow? I don't recall ever messing with it before.
[16:20] <BenderRodriguez> teward, well, I have newer version of openjdk installed already. Is it possible to disable the dependency check and manually install it?
[16:21] <katie1231> I just installed ubuntu 16.04 and logged in. I don't see any icons and top info bar. I am assuming the screen resolution is too large? How do i fix this?
[16:22] <baizon> katie1231: right click, "change background"
[16:23] <teward> BenderRodriguez: i'd have to poke at it, further, to try and debug.  you may have to do it without the .deb and use the ZIP for DIY Linux on their site
[16:23] <teward> but no guarantees
[16:23] <katie1231> it says current background 4096 X 2304 how do i change it?
[16:23] <teward> BenderRodriguez: I would reach out to their community forums for support, since that's third party software
[16:24] <TJ-> Pinkamena_D: "linux-image-3.19.0-42-generic" shows "Source: linux-lts-vivid" - so get that
[16:27] <TJ-> DrunkenDwarf: you can probably run that amd64 image using QEMU's qemu-user-static and binfmt-support
[16:29] <DrunkenDwarf> TJ-, thanks. but probably not with it just for a Git GUI, no matter how lovely and shiny it is
[16:30] <test1100101> split-window
[16:30] <test1100101> =\
[16:31] <TJ-> DrunkenDwarf: I prefer the CLI, always feels far more powerful than GUI tools
[16:34] <william__> hello
[16:35] <Pinkamena_D> hi
[16:36] <william__> system upgrade for me
[16:36] <gbit86> Does anyone here know to run a CLI command that launches the Unity Launcher? (I primarily just want to access its search to launch apps without using the Super key)
[16:37] <gbit86> I found an app that allowed me to set it to the key combination I want, but it is so unreliable. I would rather tie my key combination to a shell script or shell command that to rely on whatever is triggering it.
[16:37] <gbit86> (OSX uses Cmd+Space to open the launcher, so I want to emulate that)
[16:39] <jatt> alt+f2
[16:42] <nac33> Does someone know when 16.04 will be ready to download? Thanks
[16:44] <de-facto> gbit86 maybe you want to read about xdotool?
[16:44] <OerHeks> nac33, now, as it is released
[16:45] <gbit86> I just went into the compiz management tool and disabled it and installed albert with the hotkey I want. It appears albert works a lot better for what I need.
[16:45] <OerHeks> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/16.04/release/
[16:45] <nac33> Ok but when?
[16:45] <terrasapien> i would have thought that 16.04 has been released would be clearly stated in the channel topic
[16:45] <terrasapien> it's such an imortant milestone
[16:46] <nac33> Ok
[16:46] <terrasapien> important*
[17:00] <lolusux> hi does genymotion require virtualbox to be installed to open?
[17:00] <brainwash> lolusux: what does it tell you (error message)?
[17:01] <lolusux> i extracted genymotion from a .bin file and when i execute genymotion nothing happens
[17:03] <brainwash> some hint would be helpful
[17:03] <brainwash> is there some install guide?
[17:03] <staplr> Hi ! :-) I'm having troubles with networking (stability) under 16.04. Am I the only one ?
[17:03] <brainwash> lolusux: or a way to contact the genymotion devs?
[17:03] <OerHeks> lolusux, you might need to give the executable permission  >> http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2014/02/install-android-emulator-ubuntu-linux/ ( old howto, but still valid i guess)
[17:07] <enoch85> hey guys, any one else having issues with NFS on Ubuntu 16.04?
[17:07] <enoch85> Process: 1511 ExecStart=/usr/sbin/rpc.mountd $RPCMOUNTDARGS (code=exited, status=1/FAILURE)
[17:08] <amikrop> I have a messed up usb (virus? broken fs? etc?) that when I insert it under Windows I get "this device needs to be formatted first", and under Ubuntu it doesn't recognize it at all (neither lsusb, fsdisk, nothing). Any ideas? Can I save the contents somehow?
[17:08] <enoch85> when I run http://pastebin.com/8mQj5Tfb
[17:09] <enoch85> amikrop: have you tried a rescue disk?
[17:09] <amikrop> enoch85: what is that?
[17:09] <lerner> what happens if I exit the upgrader after having gotten all new packages? I wont have to re download them, right?
[17:09] <TimSchumi> amikrop: Windows always wants to reformat ext Partitions, because it simply doesn't know that type of partition
[17:10] <enoch85> amikrop: something like this: https://en0ch.se/index.php/s/ZwltJCBMnDy3qGe
[17:10] <amikrop> TimSchumi: ok whats up though with not being recognized under ubuntu?
[17:10] <H4santiyu> today i install google chrome and got a problem with fullscreen on youtube
[17:10] <TimSchumi> install gparted and look, if the partition is listed
[17:11] <amikrop> enoch85: wouldn't that still need the usb to be recognized first? it doesn't show even under lsusb
[17:11] <H4santiyu> can't exit fullscreen
[17:11] <amikrop> TimSchumi: ok
[17:11] <amikrop> thx
[17:11] <enoch85> here is another one: https://en0ch.se/index.php/s/tVthyBKwlNYJnjD
[17:11] <enoch85> someone up for this? http://pastebin.com/8mQj5Tfb
[17:12] <linmob>  /msg NickServ identify ircfreenodelinmob
[17:13] <TimSchumi> fail
[17:13] <TimSchumi> linmob: I would reccomend to change your password
[17:13] <reetammitra29041> Hello, I have just upgraded to Lubuntu 16.04 and I am facing an issue in which my mouse pointer disappears after a screen lock
[17:13] <TimSchumi> recommend*
[17:14] <enoch85> well this is odd: http://pastebin.com/aX4dJtkp
[17:14] <reetammitra29041> Its visible on the lock screen but after I log back in , it disappears
[17:14] <Kiwikaki_> reetammitra29041: Its a known bug.
[17:14] <enoch85> a second start works
[17:14] <reetammitra29041> Thanks @Kiwikaki_
[17:14] <reetammitra29041> Any workaround for this besides a restart?
[17:15] <squinty> lerner:  deb packages are kept in /var/cache/apt/archives/
[17:15] <lerner> squinty, so I can turn the computer off and install tomorrow
[17:15] <H4santiyu> i do sudo update-manager -d
[17:16] <enoch85> I updated 7 servers today, the last one failed with NFS
[17:16] <brainwash> reetammitra29041: bug 1568604
[17:16] <enoch85> still working but NFS fails
[17:16] <enoch85> :/
[17:16] <TJ-> enoch85: idmap issues?
[17:17] <lerner> H4santiyu, and whats the difference?
[17:18] <enoch85> TJ-: what do you mean?
[17:18] <enoch85> TJ-: idmap?
[17:18] <enoch85> seems like some swap is corrupted...
[17:18] <enoch85> TJ-: I run it on VMware
[17:20] <TJ-> enoch85: NFS relies on user IDs matching on both server and clients, or being mapped by a deamon (idmapd)
[17:20] <TJ-> enoch85: is idmapd running?
[17:21] <enoch85> TJ-: nope
[17:21] <enoch85> not on the server (the failing one)
[17:22] <enoch85> TJ-: I put systemctl nfs-server start in rc.local, and now it fails at first, but starts in the upstart job... needs to be started twice..
[17:24] <enoch85> TJ-: do you have a better fix?
[17:25] <TJ-> enoch85: sounds like a lack of network service if it fails initially. Also, are you using systemd or upstart boots?
[17:28] <enoch85> TJ what's the difference?
[17:28] <Guest49579> alguem do brasil aii?
[17:29] <enoch85> Guest49579: ooi
[17:29] <lotuspsychje> !br | Guest49579
[17:30] <Guest49579> td bem?
[17:30] <enoch85> TJ-: I just reboot the VM..?
[17:30] <enoch85> Guest49579: sim,, mas fala english obigado
[17:31] <enoch85> Guest49579: det skulle vaa lite konstigt om alla pratade sitt språk...
[17:31] <Guest49579> kkk
[17:31] <zteam> I'm considering encrypting my usb harddrive with LUKS, can I read that encrypted disk on another computer (with different hardware) running Ubuntu wihout any problems?
[17:31] <Guest49579> falo pouco o ingles
[17:33] <trijntje> zteam: yes
[17:34] <xubuntu27d> trying to install 16.04 in vbox, and I get this http://i.imgur.com/8gQyXbbl.png
[17:35] <xubuntu27d> running vbox 5.0.18
[17:35] <xubuntu27d> I tried installing ubuntustudio 16.04 also (in vbox), same problem.
[17:37] <a40ntistos> Hello everyone, I have installed 16.04 beta and today the software updated ask me to install some updates, that means now that i'm on the latest release or I have to do something else?
[17:37] <lotuspsychje> xubuntu27d: perhaps the #vbox guys might know?
[17:37] <lotuspsychje> !final | a40ntistos
[17:37] <zteam> trijntje, are you sure? (reason I ask is because I know luks rehashes your password several times depening on how fast the cpu is)
[17:38] <xubuntu27d> thx.
[17:38] <zteam> trijntje, :-)
[17:38] <lotuspsychje> a40ntistos: check if your on latest kernel uname -a
[17:39] <a40ntistos> 4.4.0-21-generic #37-Ubuntu SMP Mon Apr 18 18:33:37 UTC 2016 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux this is what i get
[17:39] <trijntje> zteam: I have done it myself. I dont know the exact key scheme luks uses, but I'd imagine they'd store the number of hash cycles in the header if you are correct
[17:39] <lotuspsychje> a40ntistos: lookin good
[17:39] <a40ntistos> thanks lotuspsychje
[17:39] <lotuspsychje> a40ntistos: sudo apt full-upgrade
[17:40] <lotuspsychje> a40ntistos: and sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade
[17:40] <lotuspsychje> a40ntistos: if 0 packages need update your on latest
[17:41] <zteam> trijntje, okey, nice to know :-)
[17:41] <a40ntistos> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[17:42] <lotuspsychje> !yay | a40ntistos
[17:42] <a40ntistos> lol lotuspsychje :) Thanks
[17:42] <zteam> trijntje, yeah that's , what I'm thinking too, but i needed to have it verifyed before I encrypting a 3 TB harddrive over usb 2.0
[17:43] <a40ntistos> By the way is it true that 16.04 has some issues with amd graphic cards?
[17:43] <lotuspsychje> a40ntistos: drivers are now radeon and amdgpu
[17:44] <zteam> trijntje, because that's gonna be very time consuming i guess :D (that's why I'm gonna let another computer than my main machine handle it)
[17:44] <lotuspsychje> a40ntistos: the amd drivers are not supported anymore on 16.04
[17:44] <trijntje> zteam: If you want to be completely sure I'd send an email to their developers mailing list. I've maybe moved half a dozen harddisk into half a dozen different systems without issue, but thats all I can say about it
[17:44] <reetammitra29041> In Lubuntu 16.04, is anyone facing a time issue? Whenever I restart my machine it doesn't show me the correct time even if I have set it manually
[17:44] <trijntje> or try to find some more info about what they store in the luks header, that should be available online
[17:44] <a40ntistos> lotuspsychje so a laptop with amd graphic card what support will get?
[17:45] <lotuspsychje> a40ntistos: the radeon and amdgpu driver, depending on your chipset
[17:45] <zteam> trijntje, sounds reassuring enough :-)
[17:46] <lotuspsychje> a40ntistos: if you do encounter issues on your card, please file abug
[17:46] <Bashing-om> a40ntistos: Info on where ATI is placing the effort for support : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2321234 .
[17:46] <zteam> trijntje, do you know how hard it would be to read a luks encrypted drive under Windows btw? (not that I really have too)
[17:47] <lotuspsychje> reetammitra29041: is your bios set to the right time?
[17:47] <baboon007> a40ntistos, I have a Radeon HD 8570A/8570M and it works fine on Xubuntu 16.04; no visible deterioration after upgrade from 15.10
[17:48] <lotuspsychje> baboon007: wich driver are you on?
[17:48] <trijntje> zteam: I dont know, I've never tried that. I'd say pretty hard, windows won't even read unencrypted linux partitions without a lot of fiddling
[17:48] <reetammitra29041> lotuspsychje: ahh lemme check
[17:48] <baboon007> lotuspsychje, radeon
[17:49] <lotuspsychje> baboon007: tnx for feedback
[17:50] <a40ntistos> lotuspsychje baboon007 thanks for that. I have an Nvidia on my laptop but i'm thinking to buy a new Dell and it has a Radeon inside. This is why i'm asking for
[17:51] <jesus_> I'm jesús, form México.
[17:51] <lotuspsychje> !es | jesus_
[17:51] <Guest49487> not sure if future of bug. Open firefox, go to a website with long page. Google Images, instead of scrolling, click the place where you would like the scrollbar to land
[17:51] <tr4shFX> i have a poroblem. on my old laptop i insalld ubuntu 16.04 and while booing from usb everything worked fine. after installing it the wifi card is ot detected enymore... is thsi issue known?
[17:51] <zteam> trijntje, okey, thanks anyway mate, you already helped me out a lot :-)
[17:52] <Guest49487> You will see it will go further
[17:52] <lotuspsychje> tr4shFX: wifi chipset? clean install or upgrade?
[17:52] <tr4shFX> clean install #
[17:52] <pokergod> i've got ubuntu 15, and when i go to software updates, it doesn't show 16.  I do have it setup for "any"
[17:52] <tr4shFX> old intel wireless chipset
[17:53] <lotuspsychje> tr4shFX: did you install ubuntu with cable/internet + updates enabled during setup + 3rd party software?
[17:53] <TJ-> tr4shFX: check /var/log/kern.log for clues, the driver may not have required firmware, or some other issue may be reported
[17:53] <ThePendulum> I'm trying to enter unicode characters but Ctrl + Shift + U doesn't work, and never has for me :/ Any ideas?
[17:53] <baboon007> tr4shFX, check if the driver module is loading properly
[17:53] <reetammitra2904> lotuspsychje: checked my BIOS time, its fine
[17:53] <Bashing-om> pokergod: GUI update-manager will not know until the .1 release of 16.04 . One may force the upgrade via terminal .
[17:53] <baboon007> if you have Secure Boot enabled in the bios
[17:54] <tr4shFX> installed via wifi and downloaded all 3rd party software and updates so every box was checked
[17:54] <baboon007> some 3rd party drivers may not be loading due to absence of valid key
[17:54] <pokergod> Bashing-om, how do you force the upgrade via terminal?  does apt-get dist-upgrade actually show it?
[17:55] <lotuspsychje> tr4shFX: you got cable access right now, to try to update?
[17:55] <baboon007> my wifi and BT drivers were not loading until I disabled Secure Boot
[17:55] <tr4shFX> y update running atm. driver util found some strange modem card prop driver
[17:55] <tr4shFX> installing now
[17:56] <tr4shFX> btw this laptop is about 7 jears old so no secureboot +
[17:56] <Guest49487> Does Ubuntu support kikstart files?
[17:56] <tr4shFX> good old fashioned bios
[17:56] <Bashing-om> pokergod: insure all is updated .. NO PPAs are active, NO proprietary graphics's driver in use .. and then ' sudo do-release-upgrade -d ' . (dist-upgrade works only in the current install, has nothing to do with a release upgrade ) .
[17:57] <linuxgecko> ok,  so i just installed a fresh 16.04 and i can't get beyond a successful gui login.  i can drop to console as usualy, but i get a static background when i try to gui login. no fail, no desktop. what am i most lekely not getting right?
[17:57] <Guest49487> Like Fedora/Red Hatlike the autoyast in SUSE
[17:57] <linuxgecko> s/lekely/likely/
[17:57] <ikonia> do not use -d
[17:57] <ikonia> last pokergod
[17:57] <ikonia> oops
[17:57] <Guest49487> ikonia: talking to me?
[17:57] <ikonia> Guest49487: no
[17:58] <ikonia> pokergod: do not use -d
[17:58] <Bashing-om> ikonia: ' -d ' switch required til the .1 release ??
[17:59] <MonkeyDust> -d means development
[17:59] <ikonia> Bashing-om: no
[17:59] <ikonia> Bashing-om: the .1 release is only for LTS releases
[17:59] <linuxgecko> Bashing-om:  i can't upgrade with proprietary  drivers in use?
[17:59] <ikonia> you should be able to move from a non-lts release to it
[17:59] <ikonia> but again - I wouldn't personally
[17:59] <Bashing-om> MonkeyDust: ikonia Yeah .. and is not 16.04 still in develpment until the .1 releasr ?
[18:00] <Bashing-om> linuxgecko: The proprietary driver will break .
[18:00] <ThePendulum> Bashing-om: it's not really 'in development' in any special way afaik, it's just that after the public release a lot of bugs show up that didn't appear during initial testing
[18:00] <linuxgecko> Bashing-om: so i won't be able to use properitasry drivers at all with it? or not till after upgrade?
[18:00] <ThePendulum> which will get fixed in the .1
[18:02] <Bashing-om> linuxgecko: Depends on the graphic's card .. ATI will have no proprietary driver .. All their effort is going into supporting open source .
[18:02] <quinnwizard> howdy :)
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[18:02] <Guest49487> quinnwizard: HiQ
[18:03] <Guest49487> quinnwizard: Hi!
[18:03] <quinnwizard> hey Guest49487
[18:03] <Guest49487> nick daniel
[18:03] <Guest49487> \nick daniel
[18:03] <Guest49487> sorry new to IRC, any ways....
[18:04] <nicomachus>  /nick <<-- like that
[18:04] <Wulf> /nick Daniel49487
[18:04] <linuxgecko> Bashing-om: that would be nice if the open-source worked on this config. i get all screens active and blank when i just let it do it's thing.   when i force it to play noce and dumb with nomodeset=1, i get to a login, but on only 2 of 3 screens(i had all 3 working in 15.10), and once i login, i get a non-responsive bg image, and a working mouse,   and nothing else.
[18:04] <linuxgecko> s/noce/nice/
[18:05] <linuxgecko> Bashing-om: fyi, i AM using an AMD card.
[18:05] <quinnwizard> linuxgecko: wish i could help, but im kinda new to the linux world.
[18:06] <pijinn> Hello, I'm having issues launching games through steam. A blank window flashed for a split second then disappears. Nothing else seems to happen, I'm having the same problem with GameVox. Fresh install of Ubu MATE 16.04, and Steam and GameVox. Any suggestions?
[18:06] <Lucasss> I just active a additional driver and now I can't start ubuntu
[18:06] <Bashing-om> linuxgecko: ' pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log ' let's see what is going on the the X layer .
[18:07] <Lucasss> how can I revert it using a Live CD?
[18:07] <pijinn> Are there dependencies I'm missing?
[18:08] <MonkeyDust> pijinn  there's also #ubuntu-steam
[18:08] <Bashing-om> Lucasss: Can you log into the system via console interface ? at the login screen key combo ctl+alt+F1 .
[18:09] <linuxgecko> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16037251/
[18:09] <Bashing-om> linuxgecko: reading .
[18:09] <Vonologic> Not sure if this is the right place to ask this, but can anyone figure out why my VLC stream isn't working? I'm trying to stream a video file off of my seedbox (works fine on other computers) http://pastebin.com/hSTnq5J7
[18:10] <Bashing-om> linuxgecko: Booting recovery, and the " nomodeset " parameter defeats KMS .. will load the fall back graphic's driver .
[18:11] <MonkeyDust> Vonologic  it says 'error' in line 1156
[18:11] <surfn> hi, I have a network unclaimed...  can someone help me through this?
[18:11] <katie1231> does anyone know why my unity menu's aren't visble? (fresh install of ubunut 16.04)
[18:11] <surfn> katie1231: resolution problem?
[18:12] <katie1231> appears to not be a resolution problem. I have it set at 1920X1080 which is what my samsung monitor is
[18:13] <quinnwizard> katie1231: has it done this since you first did the fresh install?
[18:13] <katie1231> yep!
[18:14] <quinnwizard> katie1231: laptop or desktop?  also, can you give me some basic specs?  especially the grahpics information?
[18:15] <linuxgecko> Bashing-om: defeating kms was partly the point. when i let it try and kms, i get all 3 monitors saying they are getting a signal, but they are blank and unresponsive..
[18:15] <quinnwizard> katie1231: also, when you hover over the unity menu, do you see any of the submenus?  if you click where you think a menu item is, does that application run?
[18:16] <pokergod> does anyone know a binary for extracting rar files and also deletes the rar upon successful extraction
[18:16] <katie1231> Desktop. intel core i5 -66000K CPU, GeForce GTX 750ti GPU
[18:16] <Someguy123> why does ubuntu not allow gateways on a different subnet for their installer?
[18:16] <fes> does having mesa git ppa cause problems upgrading 15.10 to 16.04?
[18:16] <katie1231> quinnwizard: nope
[18:17] <Someguy123> this is important for people on networks such as OVH, where the usable IP's are on a different subnet to the gateway
[18:17] <katie1231> also when i boot with MATE or a different DE i can see menus just fine.
[18:17] <linuxgecko> Someguy123: because networking basics?   to make your idea work, you would need an intermediate gateway,   which for an install......
[18:17] <Bashing-om> linuxgecko: Not the best person to assist here as I have no experience with multi monitors . But what results booting with only the primary monitor connected ?
[18:17] <Someguy123> linuxgecko: no, it's one command once it's installed
[18:18] <Someguy123> but during the installer, it's not allowed
[18:18] <quinnwizard> katie1231: okay, try this: 1) 'sudo service lightdm restart'
[18:18] <Someguy123> there is no intermediate gateway needed
[18:19] <quinnwizard> katie1231: sorry, forgot to say you need to open a terminal window :)
[18:19] <Someguy123> it would make more sense if ubuntu did a real network test when you entered your gateway
[18:19] <Someguy123> rather than just immediately denying it
[18:19] <katie1231> quinnwizard: that didn't fix it
[18:19] <linuxgecko> Bashing-om:  i don't like the direction that might lock me into,   but i'm game to try it.
[18:20] <quinnwizard> okay, next try 'sudo apt-get update', then once that is done, 'sudo apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop' and then 'sudo apt-get install unity'
[18:20] <katie1231> quinnwizard: i am seeing an error prompt that says system program problem deteced
[18:20] <katie1231> *detected
[18:20] <pradeep> hi  guys i am a new user in ubuntu
[18:20] <wafflej0ck> katie1231, is that in a pop-up not in the terminal?
[18:21] <katie1231> correct
[18:21] <wafflej0ck> katie1231, that's the standard Ubuntu something went wrong I think so not to worry for now
[18:21] <Bashing-om> !manual pradeep
[18:21] <Bashing-om> !manual | pradeep
[18:21] <wafflej0ck> katie1231, would follow quinnwizard's steps there if that doesn't resolve it can try booting with basic video drivers initially
[18:21] <linuxgecko> Bashing-om: cya on the flipside.   tring single-monitor kms
[18:22] <pradeep> ok thanks
[18:22] <fes> does having mesa git ppa cause problems upgrading 15.10 to 16.04?
[18:22] <Bashing-om> pradeep: Welcome to our world .. holler as you need guidance .
[18:22] <Someguy123> luckily I was able to drop into TTY 2, and manually set up my gateway
[18:22] <Someguy123> the installer seemed to detect that I modified the gateway and was happy with it
[18:23] <Someguy123> even though the installer itself would refuse the same IP
[18:24] <katie1231> quinnwizard: i did those sudo apt-get installs and i still see the same issue
[18:24] <quinnwizard> katie1231: okay, lets try a reboot with only the basic video drivers.
[18:25] <katie1231> quinnwizard: i believe only the basic video drivers are being used currently
[18:25] <quinnwizard> katie1231: okay, give me a sec  :)
[18:25] <wafflej0ck> katie1231, yeah try a regular reboot after installing those packages if you didn't already, but if still doesn't work you can get into the startup (grub) and edit the OS launch entry, are you familiar with grub
[18:26] <katie1231> quinnwizard: when i go into display settings i see where the unity app launcher should be but it's all black if that makes sense
[18:26] <steigre> So I recently tried 16.04 beta, and had opengl performance issues, like only getting half or third of my usual fps rate. This did not improve as 16.04 was released. Jumped back to 14.04 and all was fine. Anyone familiar with this issue?
[18:26] <robertbellarmine> Hello :D, does anyone know something like younow.com , except a bit more privacy friendly. Whereby the encryption standards are a bit btter just wondering thanks. I know there are apps that allow you to do some stuff like that, but in a more p2p fashion such as appear.in (using WebRTC)
[18:27] <Wulf> robertbellarmine: not everyone knows what "younow.com" is
[18:27] <quinnwizard> katie1231: okay, if you are using the basic video drivers, then lets try to update those with the drivers provided by NVidia.'
[18:27] <wafflej0ck> steigre, were you using the same graphics card drivers in both cases?
[18:27] <katie1231> quinnwizard: okay, how do i launch the app store thing from terminal?
[18:27] <robertbellarmine> Wulf, then don't answer :) , its just a live streaming app in android or in the browser using your mic and webcam
[18:28] <quinnwizard> katie1231: go to http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverresults.aspx/73666/en-us
[18:28] <steigre> wafflej0ck, yes, the nvidia 340 driver
[18:29] <quinnwizard> katie1231: once you download that 64.76mb file (remember the location) go back into terminal and go to that directory.  then run 'sh ./NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-334.21.run'
[18:29] <wafflej0ck> steigre, strange, it's hard to say without being able to profile the system or at least collect info about the system load when the game is running to see what resources are bottlenecking the processing
[18:29] <katie1231> quinnwizard: isnt there a way to grab the nvidia drivers from the ubuntu app store?
[18:30] <quinnwizard> katie1231: let me try on my end and i will tell you where you have to go and if you have to add an rpa (but shouldn't have too)
[18:30] <katie1231> quinnwizard: i ask because ctrl + alt+ f1-f7 won't open a TTY for me
[18:30] <wafflej0ck> katie1231, typically use the "Additional Drivers" panel for installing the video drivers
[18:31] <katie1231> yea how do i open that screen with no menu?
[18:31] <OerHeks> wafflej0ck +1 additional drivers or 'sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall'
[18:31] <wafflej0ck> katie1231, http://askubuntu.com/questions/301543/how-to-open-the-additional-drivers-window-using-command-line
[18:31] <wafflej0ck> oh nice OerHeks
[18:31] <quinnwizard> katie1231: brb, wafflej0ck should be able to assist as well.
[18:31] <steigre> wafflej0ck, indeed. Guess I'm back on 14.04 for now then, currently dual booting between that and 16.04, maybe the issue will resolve in a not too distant future :)
[18:31] <OerHeks> 'sudo ubuntu-drivers list' is the command to look wich drivers are available
[18:33] <katie1231> okay so it looks like i am not using the processor graphics, i am using X.org X server- open source drivers
[18:33] <katie1231> should i just using the proprietary drivers instead?
[18:33] <wafflej0ck> katie1231, yeah can try the proprietary drivers instead here, if that fails we can also use the "nomodeset" that falls back to really basic drivers but then everything (resolution etc.) is terrible so usually just good to get to a GUI to install other drivers
[18:35] <katie1231> wafflej0ck: maybe my unity menus being hidden off screen has nothing to do with the graphics drivers?
[18:35] <wafflej0ck> katie1231, after installing graphics drivers typically good measure to just give it a reboot too, restarting the display manager may be enough to get things working but just easier
[18:35] <wafflej0ck> katie1231, yeah could be unrelated but pretty easy to try
[18:35] <katie1231> wafflej0ck: when i use GNOME i see menus just fine
[18:35] <wafflej0ck> katie1231, I recall seeing similar things on 14.04 in VirtualBox I think though and other places where graphics drivers were an issue
[18:35] <linuxgecko> Bashing-om:  ... no yuck yet.  inspecting the Xorg.0.log
[18:36] <wafflej0ck> katie1231, I think Unity menu uses a fair amount of transparency and faded parts and stuff so might be graphically accelerated whereas the gnome ones might now... totally speculation but just a guess
[18:36] <wafflej0ck> not*
[18:36] <johefernan> Guys
[18:37] <katie1231> wafflej0ck: just rebooted. Still can't see the unity app launcher or top menu bar
[18:37] <johefernan> How do I rsync ubuntu releases?
[18:37] <johefernan> rsync -vaz rsync://server/ ?
[18:37] <wafflej0ck> hmm okay you still getting that something went wrong dialog maybe that will point us in the right direction... everything else still seem fine with the proprietary drivers (no new problems so far)
[18:37] <wafflej0ck> katie1231, ^
[18:38] <katie1231> wafflej0ck: no new problems.
[18:38] <Bashing-om> linuxgecko: Yuk .. show and we look too .. maybe the issue is desktop related amd not the driver ??
[18:38] <katie1231> wafflej0ck: i have my screen res set to 1920X1080 but the background says ubuntu (4096 X 2304)
[18:40] <wafflej0ck> katie1231, huh very strange maybe can try nvidia-settings panel it lets you configure overscan and stuff there but from what you described about the black area when you had the system monitor open made it sound like it's "there" just not drawing
[18:41] <linuxgecko> Bashing-om: it would be not helpful to show th new Xorg.0.log..    it is literally empty.  0 byte file
[18:41] <wafflej0ck> katie1231, you should be able to run nvidia-settings from the terminal if it's installed if not just sudo apt-get install nvidia-settings, if you want to try that
[18:42] <katie1231> wafflej0ck: i am in there now trying to see what might fix this
[18:42] <Bashing-om> linuxgecko: Yikes .. now that just is not right for nothing to be written to that file .
[18:44] <wafflej0ck> katie1231, yeah the overscan is typically only needed when hooking up to something like a TV with projection where the manufacturer will have it project over an area larger than the actual screen, with regular LCDs and stuff typically isn't a problem but maybe something you can fiddle with in there
[18:45] <katie1231> wafflej0ck: i don't really see a panning aread
[18:45] <fes> oibaf xorg ppa DID cause 15.10 to not upgrade to 16.04. Now you know that!
[18:45] <wafflej0ck> katie1231, yeah where was it exactly you saw the larger resolution, thinking back to that I wonder if it's just an extra large desktop wallpaper for the sake of covering huge screens maybe not relevant to the issue too
[18:46] <linuxgecko> Bashing-om: i think the issue is DE-related. even the isntall cd, when booted, gets a nasty "fatal error" popup that goes off when i am in nomodeset. i can't even see what the issue of the critical error is.
[18:46] <linuxgecko> Bashing-om: when booted to livecd mode
[18:46] <katie1231> wafflej0ck: i saw it in the background settings, where you change your desktop background image
[18:46] <fes> why does not ubuntu report what PPA causes upgrade to not work?
[18:47] <OerHeks> fes, usually the upgrade process disables your ppa, unless you added it to the sources list instead of the ppa folder
[18:47] <Bashing-om> linuxgecko: What card is this you are working with ?
[18:48] <fes> OerHeks, Thank you for that info!
[18:48] <linuxgecko> Bashing-om: R7 370
[18:48] <katie1231> wafflej0ck: should i just stick to using GNOME instead, since it works?
[18:49] <linuxgecko> Bashing-om: not really old,  not really new,  IMO, should be solidly supported.
[18:49] <fes> so if I use deb uuuurrrrlllll wily instead of ppa:lalala/lalala it does no disable the repo?
[18:49] <wafflej0ck> katie1231, okay think that might be a red herring then, you could definitely stick to gnome if you want (I prefer it) but I can explain how to try the nomodeset thing too if you want to try that but ultimately you'll want it working with some sort of graphics drivers installed
[18:50] <linuxgecko> Bashing-om:  and the kicker,   it worked fine once i got to a full desktop and "upgraded" the drivers to prop.
[18:50] <wafflej0ck> katie1231, http://itsfoss.com/how-to-fix-no-unity-no-launcher-no-dash-in-ubuntu-12-10-quick-tip/ <-- has a few tips from older releases for possible fixes these could work but would definitely do this with caution (instead of delete just mv with a new name like .config_bak)
[18:51] <katie1231> wafflej0ck: i'll just stick to gnome for now. Do you think you can help me set up dual monitors?
[18:51] <wafflej0ck> katie1231, yeah you should be able to just do that through the display settings in gnome, I have two external monitors out of my laptop
[18:52] <linuxgecko> katie1231: 16.10?
[18:52] <katie1231> wafflej0ck: well i only see one monitor there, even though i have another one plugged in
[18:52] <katie1231> linuxgecko: yep 16.10
[18:52] <Bashing-om> linuxgecko: .. K; what gives terminal commands ' sudo ubuntu-drivers devices ; sudo ubuntu-drivers list ' ?
[18:53] <linuxgecko> katie1231: i'm having multi-monitor woes in 16.10 also ..   what card?
[18:54] <katie1231> linuxgecko: I've got GeForce GTX 750 Ti
[18:54] <wafflej0ck> you both mean 16.04 right? lsb_release -a, to check, pretty sure you can't get 16.10 yet unless you're on some developer branch (or a time traveler)
[18:55] <katie1231> wafflej0ck: opps yes. 16.04
[18:55] <wafflej0ck> :) k
[18:55] <brym> identify d243013r25197563
[18:55] <katie1231> why isn't my other montior being detected?
[18:56] <youzi> #linuxba@ircfreenode.net
[18:56] <brym> why am i retarded lol
[18:56] <wafflej0ck> katie1231, is that still true after you installed the proprietary drivers?
[18:56] <katie1231> wafflej0ck: yea i installed them
[18:58] <Defiance_> katie: did you install the nvidia x server settings app also?
[18:58] <Guest63632> Hello. I am using cinnamon-desktop on Ubuntu. When I log into my desktop the bottom menu/panel is missing.
[18:58] <youzi> 有人么
[18:58] <Wulf> !cn | youzi
[18:58] <wafflej0ck> katie1231, can you run, "lshw -c video" as well just want to see what particular driver and card is configured at the moment to see if it helps find some info
[18:59] <katie1231> i should do that as SU it says?
[18:59] <youzi> thank you
[19:00] <wafflej0ck> katie1231, shouldn't matter in this case without root we still get the card and driver details looks like
[19:00] <Someguy123> anyone else here getting a black screen after using the 16.04 netboot?
[19:01] <Someguy123> on my other VM, installing from the full ISO had no issues, but this netboot install seems to be broken
[19:01] <katie1231> wafflej0ck: okay VGA compatible controller, product: GM107 [GeForce GTX 750ti] vendor: NVIDIA corp
[19:01] <katie1231> wafflej0ck: do you need more info?
[19:01] <Guest63632> Is cinnamon desktop supported? (Cinnamon, the window/desktopmanagienvironment NOT MInt)
[19:01] <Someguy123> Guest63632: of course
[19:01] <wafflej0ck> katie1231, just the line like this would help too for some searching configuration: driver=i915 latency=0
[19:01] <Guest63632> OKay.
[19:01] <Someguy123> it's not provided by default, but you can of course install it through apt and a little config
[19:02] <Guest63632> The bottom start/menu/toolbar disappears after logging in after logout
[19:02] <linuxgecko> Bashing-om:  looks like it's only seeing software rendering.   pastebinit incomming.
[19:02] <katie1231> wafflej0ck: configuration: driver=nvidia latency=0
[19:02] <Guest63632> The restart cinnamonwhatever command does not bring it back.
[19:04] <linuxgecko> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16038652/
[19:04] <wafflej0ck> katie1231, definitely a slew of posts about issues with the 750ti on linux but also an article praising it for it's performance on linux here http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=nvidia_maxwell_benchmarks&num=1 so it's not all darkness :) will see if I can find anything more relevant though
[19:05] <katie1231> wafflej0ck: thank you!
[19:06] <_akira\> Hello. I am using cinnamon-desktop on Ubuntu. When I log into my desktop the bottom menu/panel is missing.
[19:07] <linuxgecko> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16038727/   for lspci -k
[19:07] <Bashing-om> linuxgecko: Look'n .
[19:07] <wafflej0ck> katie1231, also in the mean time you can try in the nvidia-settings to enable multi-monitor there, it lets you control multiple monitor positions and resolutions more tightly anyhow
[19:08] <katie1231> wafflej0ck: where in there is the multi-monitor selection?
[19:11] <ThePendulum> I woud like to enter unicode characters, but ctrl + shift + u doesn't do anything. Any ideas?
[19:11] <katie1231> wafflej0ck: i don't think it will detect the other monitor that's plugged in via HDMI
[19:11] <wafflej0ck> katie1231, second option under x server display configuration it has a detect displays button
[19:12] <katie1231> wafflej0ck: yea that button doesn't find anything
[19:13] <Bashing-om> linuxgecko: Humm ..maybe, just maybe a bug : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/1559141 . Still looking around .
[19:14] <Frjd> Hi! I have an old laptop with intel i3 2.1 GHz and 1.8 GiB of RAM. I want to install the latest ubuntu on it (16.04), do you think it will run or be constantly lagging and should I go with 32-bit or 64-bit?
[19:14] <MonkSam> qbittorrent won
[19:14] <wafflej0ck> katie1231, hrm well I'm gonna push my desktop to upgrade from 14.04 to 16.04 I have a GTX670 there and dual monitors so if you're still around when that finishes upgrading I can let you know if it's specific to your graphics card or something else but not really sure what else to try right now
[19:14]  * linuxgecko grumbles about bugs that nasty needing to be fixed before the .0 release.... 
[19:15] <bekks> Frjd: If your CPU is 64bot, use 64bit.
[19:15] <bekks> Frjd: *64bit ;)
[19:15] <Frjd> bekks: CPU is 64-bit, running Mint 64-bit right now. But have seen people around the internet claiming it uses more RAM
[19:15] <katie1231> wafflej0ck: alright sounds good
[19:16] <bekks> Frjd: You will not even notice the difference.
[19:16] <linuxgecko> Frjd: mint is all about flash and ease..   those things commonly use ram to pad you from the bumps.
[19:17] <Frjd> How is Xenial on RAM-usage
[19:17] <Frjd> ?
[19:17] <bipul> Hello i am not able to login into my ubuntu. As when ever i am loggin in, it showing me "System programe problem detected" And then throws me out to login mode.
[19:17] <linuxgecko> Frjd: i'd love to be able to tell you :) it won't let me get to a desktop :)
[19:18] <MonkSam> qbittorrent won't open after upgrading to 16.04 lts, it says symbol lookup error: qbittorrent : undefined symbol. Can anyone help?
[19:18] <Frjd> was running an OpenBox distro and the laptop was really fast, unfortunately it did not deal with HDMI well so I dropped in favor of something that "would just work"
[19:19] <bipul> It says "System programe problem detected" And take me back to login mode, hello can anyone help me out?
[19:21] <Frjd> linuxgecko: I guess I'll just have to download it and try it out then :)
[19:22] <linuxgecko> bipul: seems like you hav ea similar issue to me.   at least yours says there was a problem :)
[19:22] <bipul> linuxgecko: :(
[19:23] <Bashing-om> linuxgecko: Is a driver even loaded ? What returns ' sudo lshw -C display ' ?
[19:23] <bipul> Yes, today  i found, I am unable to login with my sudo user account.
[19:24] <bipul> !help
[19:25] <linuxgecko> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16039086/   for lshw
[19:27] <Bashing-om> linuxgecko: Ouch ! No driver loaded .. Presently on 16.04 I do not have an idea of what we can do to load a driver !
[19:28] <sahal> test
[19:29] <linuxgecko> Bashing-om:  i can go back to 15.10 if i need to, but that requires fixing my java issue.
[19:29] <wafflej0ck> sahal, it worked you have a question then just go ahead and ask
[19:30] <wafflej0ck> bipul, have you checked the output of dmesg for any possibly relevant errors or /var/log/syslog
[19:32] <katie1231> wafflej0ck: i got the second display to work!
[19:32] <bipul> wafflej0ck: i have issue this command sudo rm -rf /var/crash*
[19:32] <Pinkamena_D> Has anyone come across a good tutorial for modding a driver in ubuntu? Basically I want to add one line to the rt2800usb driver which uses printk() to put one line to dmesg, to become familiar with the process. Most of what I have tried for this on google does not work 100% with some error along the way. Does anyone have anything that they have used?
[19:32] <bipul> Now i am unable to see that message, but i am again getting back to normal login screen.
[19:34] <wafflej0ck> katie1231, awesome! what was the fix
[19:34] <katie1231> wafflej0ck: i just restarted the X server and it found the 2nd monitor...
[19:34] <Bashing-om> linuxgecko: Let's not be too hasty to give up . Lemme find the ubuntuforums thread for the ATI guru .
[19:35] <katie1231> wafflej0ck: how come my mouse won't go over to the other screen?
[19:36] <bipul> wafflej0ck: Yes, i think i need to check /var/log/syslog file
[19:36] <wafflej0ck> katie1231, check in the nvidia settings or display settings to make sure they are virtually oriented the same way they are physically (maybe right/left is left/right in the virtual version) try going the opposite way to check
[19:36] <wafflej0ck> bipul, you can ctrl+alt+f1 to get a terminal login there then cat /var/log/syslog or if you want to watch the end of it tail -f /var/log/syslog
[19:36] <katie1231> wafflej0ck: genius! okay yea if i move my mouse to the far far right it goes to the other monitor. I guess i need to swap them
[19:40] <bipul> wafflej0ck: I don't find any relevant details in /var/log/syslog
[19:43] <Bashing-om> linuxgecko: No good advise found, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2319724&highlight=ATI .
[19:46] <wafflej0ck> bipul, hmm well can try with nomodeset to see if it's related to graphics card issues but could also just be something in the xsession config that is making it fail http://askubuntu.com/questions/300682/what-represent-xauthority-file
[19:46] <TrentP> ctrl+o for file picker not working on vlc?
[19:47] <wafflej0ck> bipul, if you want to try the fallback drivers hold shift as the computer leaves the post screen to show grub then hit E with the default entry selected, find where it says splash and quiet (about 8 lines down) and can replace those two with nomodeset then hit ctrl+x to boot
[19:47] <Bray90820> Is there any way to image ubuntu like windows like I would with windows
[19:47] <ikonia> bipul: do not make any changes to your system
[19:47] <ikonia> just changing random things is a very very bad idea
[19:48] <ikonia> bipul: wait for the problem to happen again if it does - then it can be worked through
[19:48] <wafflej0ck> ikonia, bipul currently can't login
[19:48] <ikonia> but just changing random thing (especially if you are now working) is a terrible idea
[19:48] <ikonia> define can't login
[19:48] <wafflej0ck> ikonia, gets kicked back to the login screen after trying, the nomodeset change to the boot config is a temporary change it doesn't stick
[19:48] <ikonia> you're just guessing
[19:49] <ikonia> what does the xession file say
[19:49] <lolusux> hello, genymotion is not opening in my ubuntu mate
[19:49] <lolusux> please help
[19:49] <ikonia> it will show something like home is full or cannot be written to
[19:49] <ikonia> do not just make random changes
[19:49] <ikonia> or it will give you an idea as to what is going on
[19:49] <lolusux> i downloaded the .bin file and extracted it and when i double click on the genymotion file it does nothing
[19:49] <lolusux> it wont start
[19:50] <vervet> Bray90820: dd for block-level operations, if you want to image a disk it'd be a good option
[19:50] <wafflej0ck> ikonia, trying with the fallback drivers is an easy way to see if someone is having graphics driver issues but if you have better diagnostic help then go ahead
[19:50] <ikonia> wafflej0ck: no its not
[19:50] <ikonia> it's just random guess work
[19:50] <wafflej0ck> ok
[19:50] <ikonia> there is an xession log file - that gives you valid information
[19:50] <Bray90820> vervet: Yes I wanna image my entire OS so I can upgrade to 16.04 and be able to fall back if things go south
[19:50] <bipul> Finally solved it, it was issue related to lightdm package
[19:50] <ikonia> read that - look at what it's saying and telling you the problem is
[19:51] <ikonia> bipul: please explain
[19:51] <bipul> ikonia: Love to explain.
[19:51] <TrentP> Bray90820, clonezilla and also you make big tarballs if you know how to chroot and rescue
[19:51] <ikonia> bipul: please do
[19:51] <Bray90820> TrentP: Why would you recommend that over dd
[19:51] <bipul> sudo chown -R $USER:$USER $HOME
[19:51] <ikonia> bipul: that is nothing to do with lightdm
[19:52] <ikonia> bipul: that is your permissions being wrong
[19:52] <ikonia> as I told you 10 lines up
[19:52] <wafflej0ck> ikonia, sorry missed that you were already trying to help bipul
[19:52] <ikonia> wafflej0ck: I wasn't - I just couldn't allow random guess work when it was going to be something much much simpler
[19:52] <linuxgecko> Bashing-om: IMO, feels like a fubar release. and 15.10 has a issue with the way i need to deploy java. keeps reminding me why i only use ubuntu as a last resort.    and in this case, even that's nto working...
[19:52] <Bray90820> If it's possible I might end up just create more partitions and leave both OS's on my drive
[19:53] <bipul> I found that solution here https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lightdm/+question/197479
[19:53] <edisto> is there an easy way to fix a blinking mouse cursor that occasionally starts to disappear? It reappears when I hit the windows key but then fades in and out
[19:53] <ikonia> bipul: so the problem was user error - you have changed permissions in your home directory (probably running programs as sudo) and the dekstop couldn't write to that location
[19:53] <bipul> Yes.
[19:54] <Geo_> Hey all ive been having an issue with ubuntu 16 that i cant seem to figure out, wanted to see if anyone else is also having the same issue
[19:54] <Bashing-om> lolusux: Maybe: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-software/+bug/1573206 ?
[19:54] <vervet> Bray90820: yep dd would work imaging, keep in mind it'll take some time depending on the size of your disk, but the following will compress most of the free blocks -- pseudo-command for a gzipped image: dd if=[disk] | gzip | pv > [path to img file]
[19:54] <Geo_> i cant seem to install any Deb packages, as soon as the ubuntu package installer kicks in, and you hit install the file goes Null on the taskbar on the left hand side and is grayed out (cant close it)
[19:54] <Geo_> and the installation doesnt move.
[19:55] <ikonia> Geo_: what deb packages are you trying to install and from where ?
[19:55] <Geo_> For example, im trying to install CAD
[19:55] <ikonia> Geo_: from where
[19:55] <hep7> hello ppl
[19:55] <Geo_> sorry not cad, cura
[19:55] <Geo_> https://ultimaker.com/en/products/cura-software
[19:55] <hep7> i have another issue on 14.04
[19:56] <bipul> exit
[19:56] <lolusux> Bashing-om, do u think its the new 16.06?
[19:56] <ikonia> Geo_: there is no 16.04 package
[19:56] <hep7> if i try to save file from a web browser - cannot create a new folder, what might be issue?
[19:57] <Geo_> hey Ikonia, where did you get that information from? i couldnt find it lol
[19:57] <MonkSam> After upgrading to 16.04 LTS , qbittorrent won't open?
[19:57] <Geo_> maybe thats why im having problems installing everything ><
[19:57] <ikonia> Geo_: I read the webpage you linked to
[19:57] <ikonia> Geo_: everything ?
[19:57] <ikonia> Geo_: what else is failing
[19:57] <Geo_> eh, yesterday i tried installing Slack - it probably doesnt have a 16.04 package either
[19:57] <wafflej0ck> hep7, possibly permissions too where are you trying to make the folder is it in your user home?
[19:58] <ikonia> Geo_: so you're trying to install a package thats ment for debian on ubuntu 16.04 - thats something you need to talk to ultimaker about
[19:58] <hep7> wafflej0ck: Downloads folder, the new folder disappears itself
[19:58] <Geo_> gotcha i'll use wine then
[19:58] <Geo_> thanks for the help :D
[19:59] <wafflej0ck> !info scudcloud
[19:59] <Bashing-om> lolusux: Hard to say .. is the genymotion packaged for 16.04 ?
[20:00] <Geo_> Ikonia: it worked lol thanks
[20:00] <Geo_> Ikonia: and by it worked, i mean wine worked.
[20:00] <Bray90820> vervet: I actually will just install them side by side I think
[20:00] <lolusux> Bashing-om, no its for ubuntu 14.01 and newer
[20:01] <Bashing-om> lolusux: I have serious doubts then .. 14.04 packageing for upstart .. 16.04 is systemd .
[20:02] <hep7> no one?
[20:02] <ikonia> no-one what ?
[20:02] <RU33ERDUCK> hep7 when does it disappear
[20:03] <lolusux> Bashing-om, ru saying that its not supported yet?
[20:03] <RU33ERDUCK> or does it not create
[20:03] <hep7> i cannot create a new folder when saving a file from web browser (for example audio file)
[20:03] <corkey> Good evening everyone
[20:03] <ikonia> lolusux: do not install versions designed for other versions
[20:03] <hep7> RU33ERDUCK: it doesn't create
[20:04] <anonymouse1935> Hi
[20:04] <anonymouse1935> Is it normal that php5-cgi has no installation candidate?
[20:04] <ikonia> depends
[20:04] <hep7> but this happens only sometimes
[20:04] <Bashing-om> lolusux: I did not say that .. What does the packager ( maintainer) say about the use case in 16.04 ?
[20:05] <RU33ERDUCK> hep7 try creating the folder from the file manager before downloading, and direct the file into the folder you created.
[20:05] <CeeSea> Hey guys, I haven't really looked into Linux related anything since years ago. Is gaming more viable/feasible on Ubuntu now? I don't play much, but I'm just curious how well most games work if at all
[20:05] <hep7> RU33ERDUCK: i want a solution, not a workaround
[20:05] <ikonia> CeeSea: people say it is, I disagree, I think it's an unacceptable state for gaming
[20:06] <CeeSea> ikonia: define unacceptable?
[20:06] <CeeSea> for me acceptable would be 100% running any game ever w/o issue
[20:06] <ikonia> CeeSea: poor game choice, no real quality gaming, most games running through wine with varying degree's of results,
[20:06] <RU33ERDUCK> if could be a file or folder permission problem
[20:06] <CeeSea> Ahh ok
[20:06] <CeeSea> Hmm maybe I'll just dual boot
[20:07] <ikonia> hep7: you can't have a solution when you can't even describe the problem
[20:07] <hep7> RU33ERDUCK: i usually can create folders here, i know its permissions
[20:07] <CeeSea> I'm kind of sick of mainly using windows atm
[20:07] <ikonia> hep7: you don't know it's permissions
[20:07] <hep7> ikonia: maybe you cannot understand it
[20:07] <ikonia> hep7: pretty sure I can
[20:08] <hep7> ikonia: so arrogant and ignorant
[20:08] <hep7> ikonia: stop answering question here
[20:08] <ikonia> hep7: not at all,
[20:08] <ikonia> hep7: but it's not really acceptable for you to demand a solution when so far you've failed to even clearly describe the problem
[20:08] <hep7> ikonia: i can check my Downloads folders permissions
[20:08] <ikonia> it's gone from the folder vanishing, to actually, the folder never created
[20:08] <ikonia> hep7: great, checking the permissions is a good step
[20:09] <hep7> ikonia: keep nitpicking
[20:09] <ikonia> hep7: I'm not nitpicking
[20:09] <ikonia> hep7: not creating and disspearing are two very different things
[20:09] <hep7> arrogant and ignorant primadonna
[20:09] <ikonia> ooh it's you again
[20:10] <hep7> ikonia: why even you bother?
[20:10] <RU33ERDUCK> hep7, i noticed ubuntu automatically moves you into the directory you create while saving a file or download.
[20:10] <ikonia> hep7: bother what /
[20:10] <Guest84013> hey everyone :v
[20:11] <wafflej0ck> hi Guest84013
[20:12] <RU33ERDUCK> ikonia, it won't create the folder he said.
[20:12] <hep7> RU33ERDUCK: i don't know
[20:12] <ikonia> RU33ERDUCK: yes, he also said the folder dissapears
[20:12] <ikonia> hence why getting a clear description is key
[20:13] <ikonia> I suspect this is down to him running sudo randomly with everything
[20:13] <ikonia> (I'm guessing based on the incomplete history and previous problems)
[20:13] <RU33ERDUCK> im very new to IRC and rediscovering ubuntu, my input may not always be spot on ha
[20:14] <hep7> RU33ERDUCK: also note people like ikonia
[20:14] <ikonia> hep7: yes, note people who can work through a problem and fix it
[20:15] <ikonia> RU33ERDUCK: I suspect he's running the browser as root (as he's done other programs randomly as root) and it's changed the permissions, so when he runs it normally it can't download to that location
[20:15] <RU33ERDUCK> hes got a point, if it creates, the disappears, its likely a very different issue than not creating at all.
[20:15] <ikonia> he also runs the file maanger as root - so creating a directory with that file manager is not a valid test, as it will be root
[20:16] <ikonia> I am making assumptions based on previous issues/problems
[20:16] <hep7> ikonia: will you let other people answer?
[20:16] <hep7> ikonia: or will you keep assuming stupid things?
[20:16] <ikonia> hep7: drop the attitude, - it's not stupid, you told us yesterday you run the file manager as root
[20:16] <RU33ERDUCK> thats why I was hesitant to try ubuntu again, i don't like the use of sudo, its almost like people feel very invited to use it when working as root can take ownership of files and folders it touches
[20:16] <ikonia> so its a pretty reasonable assumption
[20:17] <hep7> ikonia: someone like you suggest that here
[20:17] <hep7> suggested*
[20:17] <ikonia> and based on the limited description of the symptoms, it would tie in with your previous problem and current descipriotn
[20:17] <hep7> i know to workaround that problem
[20:17] <Jukem> hey all, I had a quick question about xinput.  I'm trying to change the sensitivity of my mouse below the allowed threshold, and I totally can, but when I restart my computer my id for my mouse changes. and therefore breaks my script in rc.local.  Is there any way to lock the id to my mouse?
[20:17] <hep7> but i don't want workarounds
[20:18] <ikonia> hep7: you don't even know the problem
[20:18] <ikonia> so how can you say what is a work around and what is a solution
[20:18] <hep7> ikonia: stop, i don't want to insult you
[20:18] <TJ-> hep7: show us the output of "pastebinit <( find $HOME/Downloads -type d -ls )"
[20:18] <ikonia> hep7: then don't
[20:20] <hep7> TJ-: what you want to know?
[20:20] <ikonia> give him the paste
[20:20] <ikonia> so he can see
[20:20] <CeaCea> I'm using Rufus to make a bootable usb stick, it's been about 2 minutes and it still says "requesting disk access"
[20:20] <CeaCea> is that normal
[20:20] <ikonia> your infromation is not accurate when you describe it
[20:20] <RU33ERDUCK> hep7, ive had a problem before where i was installing something and i ran a command as sudo, and i lost the ability to alter or create files or folders without root access, my problem was that my home folder became owned by root and i had to use the command line to restore ownership to my account. maybe your problem is similar?
[20:21] <ikonia> RU33ERDUCK: which is exactly what was happening to him the other day
[20:21] <ikonia> hence the assumption
[20:21] <ikonia> he's running nautlius as root, so the permisisons screw up when he creates a directory
[20:21] <hep7> RU33ERDUCK: this only happens sometimes, most of the time i can "create" folders
[20:21] <ikonia> hep7: yes, bcause your running nautlius as root
[20:21] <skjones> i'm failing to see any software options in the new Ubuntu software manager after update to 16.04.  should i have to enable some repositories or something?
[20:21] <TJ-> hep7: provide the information requested or we can't help you. We don't do guessing games
[20:21] <ikonia> the browser is not running as root
[20:21] <hep7> RU33ERDUCK: in the Downloads folder that is
[20:22] <TJ-> skjones: there's a range of bugs causing that it seems. I found restarting the gnome-software process helped it build its cache of applications from nothing to something
[20:22] <hep7> well useless as usual i guess.
[20:22] <RU33ERDUCK> can you create folders in the same way, one level up from downloads?
[20:23] <skjones> TJ-, so it's not just me then ;-)  ???  i thought i was missing something.
[20:23] <TJ-> skjones: I'm not sure where a log-out/log-in would trigger the same effect and cause a rebuild. have you logged in/rebooted a few times since this first occurred?
[20:24] <TJ-> s/where/whether/
[20:25] <skjones> TJ-, not sure if i've rebooted other than the one the upgrade to 16.04 required.  thanks TJ- , it makes me feel better knowing it's not just me.  thanks for the info
[20:29] <erdal> hi guys
[20:29] <erdal> i have a problem
[20:29] <erdal> and i cant get solution from forums
[20:29] <hautamaeki> Hello! What command should I type in terminal so I could hack my neighbor's computer?
[20:29] <erdal> i am using ubuntu 16.04 and i cant install nvidia driver
[20:30] <xan_IT> hi, to all. with ubuntu 16.04 i have problem with GDM with one computer
[20:30] <ikonia> hautamaeki: nothing and you shouldn't ask
[20:30] <xan_IT> need help
[20:30] <OerHeks> erdal, via additional drivers ? or 'sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall'
[20:30] <erdal> all of ways 0erHeks
[20:31] <ikonia> OerHeks: thats a slick trick, didn't know you could do that
[20:31] <erdal> when i thick ubuntu 340 driver and install it return old one
[20:31] <OerHeks> erdal, on wat nvidia card? lspci | grep VGA
[20:31] <Bashing-om> erdal: What card ? Maybe old and in legacy status by Nvidia and no driver is available ?? who knows, til info is provided .
[20:31] <erdal> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation G94 [GeForce 9600 GT] (rev a1)
[20:31] <erdal> not too old
[20:32] <erdal> lib32gcc1 and  libc6-i386
[20:32] <erdal> need
[20:32] <erdal> i am using 64 bit
[20:32] <OerHeks> ikonia, best way is to look first; sudo ubuntu-drivers list , as 'sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall' does microcode and wifi and such too
[20:32] <ikonia> OerHeks: didn't know that at all
[20:33] <OerHeks> last one handy is sudo ubuntu-drivers devices , to see hardware
[20:33] <erdal> i am turkish user if you want i can send all the errors message
[20:34] <erdal> 0erHeks i can record the video for that if it will help
[20:34] <Bashing-om> !info nvidia-340 xenial
[20:37] <erdal> and "sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall" same error "lib32gcc1" and "libc6-i386" needed but it wont install error
[20:37] <Majora320> Hello, world!
[20:37] <erdal> hello Majora
[20:37] <erdal> :D
[20:38] <OerHeks> erdal, i think the support for that card went to legacy, so use the open driver > http://www.nvidia.com/object/IO_32667.html
[20:39] <hautamaeki> Hello! What command should I type in terminal so I could hack my neighbor's computer?
[20:39] <erdal> 0erHeks what will i do?
[20:39] <erdal> return to ubuntu 14.04?
[20:40] <Majora320> hautamaeki: type "sudo rm -rf /"
[20:40] <Majora320> (not really)
[20:40] <ikonia> Majora320: please don't do that sort of thing
[20:40] <ikonia> Majora320: just ignore a troll and they will be delt with (as they have)
[20:40] <Bashing-om> !danger
[20:41] <OerHeks> erdal, i would go for the open driver, as it is pretty good, even for youtube playback, * but maybe only full screen
[20:42] <henso> Hi, Im trying to build a htpc with ubuntu server and I cant get xserver to work.
[20:42] <ikonia> henso: use ubuntu desktop
[20:42] <ikonia> no need to make it hard on yourself
[20:42] <erdal> 0erHeks i need double screen monitor and led tv :D
[20:43] <henso> ikonia: i want small install, i just want kodi
[20:43] <ikonia> henso: server + X isn't really that much different from desktop
[20:43] <ikonia> in terms of disk space, the difference is the desktop has the depends and config setup
[20:43] <ikonia> use lubuntu for example,
[20:43] <ikonia> very small and light resource wise
[20:44] <TJ-> henso: you might find a surpringly small install if you do "sudo apt-get --no-install-recommends ubuntu-desktop" ( 1.4GiB vs > 3.6GiB)
[20:45] <henso> ikonia: but then I need to reinstall everything. I dont think it is a big problem, if you could point me in the right direction
[20:45] <ikonia> henso: right direction for what exaclty ?
[20:45] <Trinity> anyone know what happened with the cgconfig service?
[20:45] <Trinity> i know I can install cgroups-bin but I still dont get a cgconfig service
[20:46] <reisio> Trinity: might ask apt-file about it
[20:46] <Tegu> I made a command line installation with the mini.iso and the installation took like a gigabyte for some reason. if I checked the disk space correctly
[20:46] <henso> i can paste the log file of xorg
[20:47] <reisio> Tegu: and?
[20:47] <ikonia> henso: for what ?
[20:47] <henso> finding out my problem maybe
[20:47] <Tegu> reisio: well just related to that "surprisingly small install"
[20:47] <reisio> ah
[20:47] <ikonia> henso: you're not really explained your problem
[20:47] <reisio> small OS, particularly without a DE
[20:47] <ikonia> Tegu: did you skip all the optional depends as in TJ-'s example
[20:47] <reisio> helps that packages are managed (so deps are shared)
[20:48] <ikonia> or did you just install the package and let it resolve dependencies
[20:50] <Tegu> I wouldn't call 1GB particularly small. but ikonia I only installed openssh-server (probably without the no-recommands flag) in addition to the base command line system
[20:50] <ikonia> Tegu: that seems very unlikley,
[20:50] <ikonia> but actually a 1GB install is not bad when you compare it to other distros pakage minimal list
[20:50] <TJ-> Tegu: that sounds rather large for an ubuntu-minimal + openshh-server
[20:51] <Tegu> yea it sounds quite big. I guess I made a mistake somewhere when measuring it
[20:51] <TJ-> Tegu: I think my typical VM images for that use about 5-800MiB
[20:51] <ikonia> 580 I think is default
[20:51] <reisio> considering you can't even get USB sticks as low capacity as 1GB at walmart anymore, I'd call it small
[20:54] <Apachez> Tegu: perhaps tinycore or coreos is a better option for you then? ;)
[20:55] <ikonia> that seems unlikley
[20:56] <anonymouse1935> Is there a way to install php5 on ubuntu 16.04 ?
[20:56] <twenatwine> .
[20:56] <ikonia> anonymouse1935: there is, although I don't have it to hand, anonymouse1935 I'd question if it's something you want to do though
[20:56] <Tegu> Apachez: I know there are smaller distros :) not really looking for them, though. that was just a random note
[20:57] <twenatwine> just in time
[20:57] <anonymouse1935> ikonia: for some reason I lighttpd won't start with fastcgi and php7
[20:57] <Apachez> however incorporating that lennart os (systemd) into ubuntu seems like a bad move
[20:57] <dalantren> is any way to install MathCad over wine on ubuntu 14.04 lts?
[20:58] <ikonia> anonymouse1935: so thats something I'd be looking to fix, rather than change the php version
[20:58] <ikonia> anonymouse1935: more so if you don't know why it won't start
[20:59] <anonymouse1935> ikonia: I get https://nopaste.me/view/6f8e8fc3
[21:00] <ikonia> anonymouse1935: so the first thing I'd be looking at is ubuntu shipping php7 that is fast cgi enabled, or does it need a different package
[21:01] <wafflej0ck> anonymouse1935, yeah can check the error logs to see why lighthttpd didn't start, service php7.0-fpm status, should show if that's runnning as well
[21:01] <BCB> I've added multiple ips to a single nic on an Ubuntu Server but not my "host" command does not work.  Any thoughts.
[21:01] <ikonia> BCB: define does not work
[21:01] <BCB> *now
[21:02] <BCB> "host" "ip" does not return any data
[21:02] <BCB> not does "host" "Domain Name" return any data
[21:02] <ikonia> BCB: do you have a reverse dns mapping for the ip ?
[21:03] <ikonia> BCB: sounds like you just don't have dns setup for those hosts/ip's
[21:03] <BCB> ikonia: could it be a propagation issue
[21:03] <ikonia> BCB: it could be many many things
[21:03] <ikonia> but the bottom line is you don't have dns setup
[21:04] <BCB> ikonia: hmmm let me check
[21:04] <anonymouse1935> ikonia: I got it working, thank you!
[21:04] <ikonia> anonymouse1935: nice jov
[21:04] <ikonia> job
[21:06] <Gallomimia> Bashing-om: at the time, my status was "sleeping" and now my status is busy with RL stuff. I guess the machine will wait. i think i'm resigned to splitting the LV and dual booting with 16.04 and the existing. so now i get to learn how to do that. maybe tomorrow or perhaps later. thanks tho
[21:07] <BCB> ikonia: where do I check my dns settings. All of the ips are resolving correctly on another box
[21:08] <ikonia> BCB: depnds how it's setup, if you use dig it should show what resolver you are using
[21:09] <BCB> ikonia: i have a server ip plus 2 ip-based websites on the box. All connected to em1 - I should be digging the server ip correct?
[21:09] <ikonia> BCB: you should be digging whatever you want to resolve
[21:13] <Bashing-om> Gallomimia: K .. I too want to learn the why and where . But the real world takes priority .
[21:13] <Gallomimia> i'm basically chalking it up to a bug in the packaging requirements
[21:15] <BCB> ikonia: "getent hosts" resolves all ip's and host names on a separate box but not on the box that has the three ip on one nic.
[21:16] <BCB> ikonia: and when I remove the two added ips from the box that does not resolve "getent hosts" works.
[21:16] <linuxgecko> Bashing-om:  i found my issue.   but i don't know the solution.   unity is dying in failsafe
[21:16] <ikonia> BCB: ok /
[21:16] <ikonia> BCB: that doesn't change anything I've said to you
[21:17] <ikonia> that box cannot resolve dns - fix that
[21:17] <Bashing-om> linuxgecko: Start unity from terminal .. see what errors are generated ?
[21:19] <jlim> 16.04 update after installation breaks blutooth
[21:19] <jlim> bluetooth is working after installation and after first update it is broken
[21:19] <Bashing-om> linuxgecko: Muliu monitors is doable with ATI in 16.04 : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2321791
[21:20] <jlim> it really sux
[21:20] <jlim> because bluetooth is a deal breaker for me
[21:20] <ikonia> jlim: what do you want us to do about it
[21:21] <ikonia> jlim: what have you done yourself to progress the issue
[21:21] <jlim> ikonia: you know of a fix
[21:21] <ikonia> jlim: coming into an IRC channel and just complaining will add no value to anyone
[21:21] <ikonia> jlim: no, as you've told us nothing about the problem
[21:22] <linuxgecko> Bashing-om: how did you find that? i have no gui/browser atm
[21:22] <jlim> ikonia: i would have though a lot of people would be comming in here with this issue
[21:22] <ikonia> jlim: not if it's not an issue and just a problem for you
[21:22] <jlim> ikonia: i assumed it would be well known
[21:22] <ikonia> jlim: and again - you've told us nothing really about the issue
[21:23] <ikonia> jlim: why ? you don't know the problem yet, you don't know how many people it impacts
[21:23] <jlim> ik i just told you
[21:23] <AEL-H> Hey guys, I am running a python script in a screen (provided by dropbox here https://www.dropbox.com/en_GB/install?os=lnx)
[21:23] <AEL-H> I am SSH'ing into my box, when I exit the SSH session the screen stays on and the process that was started lingers, but it seems to stop actually functioning, does anyone know what the problem might be?
[21:23] <jlim> ikonia: bluetooth works after installation
[21:23] <ikonia> jlim: no you didn't, you just said "blue tooth is broken" - in what way
[21:23] <jlim> ikonia: after first update it is broken
[21:24] <ikonia> jlim: can it not see the device, can the recived be detected, can it pair, can it pair with anything, what model bluetooth reciver is it, etc etc
[21:24] <ikonia> jlim: "it's broken" isn't something we can work with
[21:24] <jlim> ikonia: so obviously something in the update is breaking bluetooth
[21:24] <ikonia> jlim: no, not obviously
[21:24] <Bashing-om> linuxgecko: OH, area of interest .. I keep an eye out .
[21:25] <BCB> ikonia: ok.  not sure where to start.
[21:25] <ikonia> BCB: I told you to use dig to look at your resolver and it's status
[21:25] <jlim> ikonia: ok well before the update it works, and after the update it is broken. So what would you call it?
[21:26] <ikonia> jlim: I'd call it an unknown until research has been done on it
[21:26] <marus> i've been using 16.04 daily, should i new install 16.04 LTS?
[21:26] <k1l> !final | marus
[21:28] <marus> k1l: is there a way to check wich update version i have or if i have final?? /etc/lsb-relese doesnt dow
[21:28] <marus> show
[21:29] <k1l> marus: "lsb_release -d" will tell
[21:30] <k1l> marus: if "sudo apt update; sudo apt fulll-upgrade" doesnt show any update you are up2date
[21:30] <marus> Description:Ubuntu 16.04 LTS
[21:30] <marus> lsb_release -d doesn't help
[21:33] <BCB> ikonia: digging the ip does not return the domain name
[21:33] <ikonia> BCB: do you have reverse dns setup for that ip
[21:34] <k1l> !final | marus
[21:35] <k1l> marus: again: if you run the updates: you have the final version. like the bot told you some minutes agi
[21:36] <piero_> ickserv identify thisfuckingxchatopensanewchannelandmakemeshowmypasswordtoeverybody
[21:38] <piero> ikonia, i have several ips to rejoin this channel bitch
[21:38] <piero> you must ban half of the world
[21:39] <BCB> ikonia: yes
[21:39] <ikonia> BCB: ok - so what does dig show you are trying to resolve against
[21:41] <marus> k1l:tanks
[21:42] <derbi> Hello! How can i see what's being sent over USB from each device in ubuntu vbox ?
[21:48] <piero> should I encrypt my entire home partition or use ecryptfs ?
[21:50] <Ubunteo> hi
[21:50] <Ubunteo> can someone help me?
[21:51] <bekks> Ubunteo: How do we know, without a specific problem description?
[21:52] <jajaja> hey guys, how can i discover whats my wifi adapter? ubuntu didnt recognize it
[21:52] <k1l> jajaja: lspci or lsub
[21:52] <Ubunteo> i accidentaly deleted the kernel image, now i can't start ubuntu since i get "kernel not loading"
[21:52] <BCB> ikonia: server.hostname.com is not resolving to a name server
[21:53] <ikonia> BCB: you've said that 3 times already, at least, and I keep asking you where is your resolver
[21:53] <jajaja> k1l:  thanks
[21:53] <Ubunteo> it's an error messagge when i try to boot it from grub2
[21:53] <Ubunteo> i just updated the system to 16.04
[21:53] <derbi> I have arduino hooked up on USB to a machine running ubuntu vbox. A program connects to arduino and sends data, expecting some in return. Is there any way i can spy the communication between the software running on vbox and arduino?
[21:53] <riffautae> Ubunteo: use the live cd to get the same kernel version as listed in your grub menu then just copy it to /boot
[21:54] <wafflej0ck> derbi, you should be able to see the data in the serial monitor
[21:54] <riffautae> your hdd boot not the live cds boot
[21:54] <wafflej0ck> derbi, within the arduino IDE I mean
[21:54] <derbi> if i start serial monitor and then run the software, the program will throw an exception that it can't connect
[21:54] <BCB> ikonia: I guess I don't understand the question.
[21:55] <jajaja> k1l: its a broadcom bcm4312
[21:55] <jayjo> I have a program that will only run properly if it's run as sudo. is there any way to get this launched from the dock?
[21:55] <k1l> !bcm43xxx
[21:55] <Ubunteo> @riffautaue is there a specific directory in the cd? and boot is under root?
[21:55] <ikonia> BCB: what is your machines resolver ?
[21:55] <derbi> wafflej0ck: i tried serial monitor after starting the software, which shows it connected fine and it's sending data. But serial monitor showed nothing.
[21:55] <k1l> !bcm43xx | jajaja
[21:55] <jajaja> How can I install those drivers?
[21:55] <jajaja> k1l: danke!
[21:56] <BCB> ikonia: can I find that in the output of dig or in the file system...
[21:56] <ikonia> BCB: dig will tell you where it is trying to resolve again
[21:56] <ikonia> against
[21:57] <BCB> ikonia: you mean the ip
[21:57] <ikonia> it could be an ip or hostname - I don't know your setup
[21:57] <linuxgecko> how do i install amd drivers from cli?  the only howto i found is based in flgrx, and that doesn't seem to exist in 16.04
[21:58] <Ubunteo> riffautae: is there a specific directory in the cd? and boot is under root?
[21:58] <k1l> linuxgecko: fglrx doesnt work for 16.04 since amd dropped fglrx
[21:59] <linuxgecko> k1l: that's fine, i'm lookign for an alternate
[21:59] <k1l> linuxgecko: amd made "amd_gpu" as open soruce kernel driver or you use the rdeon oldschool open source driver
[21:59] <riffautae> Ubunteo: it should be in the same place on the cd as where you deleted it from
[22:00] <wafflej0ck> derbi, are you sure you have matching baud rate set in the serial monitor and the program that's running
[22:00] <dfghdf> troll script created, ban whatever you want until the end of the world bitch =) And I was just criticizing this autojoin to the channel that expose the nickserv identify
[22:00] <BCB> ikonia: resolves to 172.31.0.2
[22:00] <wafflej0ck> derbi, also did you check the Serial port and board settings
[22:00] <ikonia> BCB: what is that IP address, ?
[22:00] <Count_H> hey guys
[22:01] <Count_H> having a problem with trying to get our webserver up and running and wondering if anyone could spare a few minutes to poke us in the right direcetion
[22:01] <wafflej0ck> derbi, you can monitor a particular USB connection by following instructions here it looks like https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kernel/Debugging/USB
[22:01] <BCB> ikonia: an ec2 internal ip
[22:01] <ikonia> Count_H: just ask
[22:01] <linuxgecko> k1l:  is that what i need to apt-get to get it to work?
[22:01] <Count_H> so far trying to get phpmyadmin
[22:01] <k1l> linuxgecko: it should work from the start
[22:01] <ikonia> BCB: ok - so this is an EC2 setup, that's important to mention
[22:01] <Count_H> and it is throwing errors mbstring is missing
[22:01] <nedstark> fglrx doesn't work with 16.04's version of xorg, 1.18, otherwise you could use the one for debian
[22:02] <ikonia> BCB: is this route53 or a dns server
[22:02] <Count_H> i think its php 7
[22:02] <wafflej0ck> derbi, typically if you have all those settings correct and the user you're running the arduino IDE as has permissions for the USB device then it works but haven't tried in Vbox
[22:02] <nedstark> if the amdgpu and radeon drivers don't work well enough, the workaround is go back to 14.04
[22:02] <BCB> ikonia: it's not.  I'm using route53 for routing
[22:02] <ikonia> route53 is not a router
[22:02] <wafflej0ck> Count_H, can check it make a phpinfo.php file put in there <?php phpinfo();
[22:02] <Geo_> i managed to get ubuntu installed on a rapsberry pi, works pretty well.
[22:02] <ikonia> it's a dns service
[22:02] <Count_H> php info shows ok
[22:02] <wafflej0ck> Count_H, what version?
[22:02] <ikonia> BCB: it's not "what"
[22:03] <Count_H> 7.0.4-7
[22:03] <BCB> the box is outside aws.  but i'm using AWS dns
[22:03] <Ubunteo> riffautae: i honestly don't know where it was located..
[22:03] <ikonia> BCB: do you understand you're not making any sense
[22:03] <linuxgecko> k1l: i've been trying that for days (assuming it will "just work") and it's not..   i can't even use failsafe to get to where i can get an additional drivers screen, because of a #$@@# bug in 16.04.
[22:03] <ikonia> BCB: I just asked what that IP was and you said "an AWS IP"
[22:03] <ikonia> BCB: now you're saying "it's outside AWS"
[22:03] <Count_H> additional ini files parsed  and mbstring in amounst it
[22:03] <BCB> ikonia: correct
[22:03] <k1l> !nomodeset | linuxgecko
[22:03] <ikonia> BCB: how can it be an AWS ip that is outside AWS
[22:03] <ikonia> thats impossible
[22:03] <Count_H> sorry i am trying to relay ubunti setup to someone that writes html code only
[22:03] <wafflej0ck> Count_H, sudo apt-get install php7.0-mbstring
[22:04] <Count_H> yes done that
[22:04] <k1l> linuxgecko: amd chosen to not working flgrx, since they dont want to make that anymore.
[22:04] <linuxgecko> k1l: that's how i 'm getting ANYTHING to work.  i get a gui, and login, then unity pukes.
[22:04] <BCB> ikonia: I'm running these cmds on an EC2 server.  The external box will not return any data from these commands
[22:04] <wafflej0ck> Count_H, you restart the server or FPM process afterwards (also may need to add extension=mbstring.so to your php.ini)
[22:04] <ikonia> BCB: thats nothing to do with waht I asked
[22:05] <ikonia> BCB: you don't seem to really understand your own setup
[22:05] <Count_H> ok , let us try that ,
[22:05] <BCB> I'm using aws DNS to point to a external box
[22:05] <Count_H> wafflej0ck:  what is the fpm process
[22:05] <ikonia> BCB: are you using route53 for dns resolution, yes/no
[22:05] <BCB> ikonia: yes
[22:06] <ikonia> BCB: right - so how are you pointing route53 at another dns server
[22:06] <linuxgecko> k1l: nomodeset is what i'm using now, and i can't get to a gui desktop. unity dies before i get there.
[22:06] <wafflej0ck> Count_H, if you aren't using the module version of php with apache then typically you run php7.0-fpm as a separate process and configure the server to talk to it (necessary for nginx or other servers)
[22:06] <k1l> linuxgecko: i am neither using amd nor am i working for amd.
[22:07] <Count_H> would it hurt to have php7.0-fpm installed as well
[22:07] <linuxgecko> k1l: happen to know how to make it use lightdm?
[22:07] <k1l> instead i am going to bed now. linuxgecko if it doesnt work try to use the radeon driver.
[22:08] <linuxgecko> ' k1l that doesn't work either.. i get 3 screend humg at a black screen
[22:08] <linuxgecko> hung
[22:08] <wafflej0ck> Count_H, doesn't really hurt but you'll have extra config in your /etc for it and if you want to just use the apache module version, for the immediate issue just need the mbstring php extension added onto the current setup
[22:08] <Count_H> sorry to be a noob where would the php.ini file need to be
[22:09] <wafflej0ck> Count_H, you should have one in your /etc/php/7.0/apache2/php.ini your phpinfo output should show the file location too
[22:10] <Count_H> ok   working on that for a minute
[22:11] <Count_H> would php7 load the modules via php.ini or via /etc/php.d???
[22:13] <bekks> Count_H: Both.
[22:13] <bekks> Count_H: what is the actual problem?
[22:14] <wafflej0ck> bekks, just trying to add mbstring for phpmyadmin
[22:14] <wafflej0ck> bekks, I suggested adding extension=mbstring.so to the php.ini
[22:14] <Count_H> trying to enable mbstring with php7 on ubuntu server , so that phpmyadmin works
[22:14] <ikonia> win 1
[22:15] <bekks> Count_H: wafflej0ck: http://askubuntu.com/questions/491629/how-to-install-php-mbstring-extension-in-ubuntu
[22:15] <wafflej0ck> Count_H, yeah weird I don't even have that folder maybe something that didn't get created during the upgrade though
[22:16] <wafflej0ck> bekks, I did it fine on my computer was just repeating where Count_H is at this is for php7 too
[22:16] <Count_H> it is kinda wierd i know ,  its for our virtual airline website after the whole 123 reg thing deleted it a week ago
[22:16] <bekks> wafflej0ck: And he/you didnt read the last comment.
[22:17] <Count_H> ah ok ,
[22:17] <Count_H> i say we because i am on teamspeak with the guy who has root access to the server
[22:17] <bekks> Count_H: then this guy should join this, too.
[22:18] <Count_H> hes never been on irc
[22:18] <bekks> Count_H: it will be his first time then.
[22:18] <sowmiyan> hello
[22:18] <skjones> TJ-, we were talking earlier about the software manager not being populated - i rebooted and all looks normal now - guess a reboots helps sometimes :-)
[22:18] <Count_H> its ok i am relaying coppy and paste
[22:18] <sowmiyan> what
[22:20] <Count_H> this may sound like a error but in the php.ini file there is a section for windows extensions with loads of .dlls , but i would have expected a sections with laods of unix .so but there are not
[22:20] <Count_H> any ideas why that would be the case
[22:20] <Count_H> 23:20:11) Count_H: this may sound like a error but in the php.ini file there is a section for windows extensions with loads of .dlls , but i would have expected a sections with laods of unix .so but there are not
[22:20] <Count_H> (23:20:20) Count_H: any ideas why that would be the case
[22:20] <Count_H> for wafflej0ck
[22:22] <wafflej0ck> Count_H, yeah those files being loaded is split into separate files in the /etc/php/7.0/mods-available folder
[22:22] <Count_H> wafflej0ck:  meet Harry gaa , our server admin
[22:23] <Harry-GAA001> Hello
[22:23] <Count_H> so is there a sample php.ini that needed renaming to enable default unix modules ?
[22:23] <B0g4r7> Is /etc/apt/sources.list.d/i-nex-development-team-ubuntu-daily-xenial.list something that's installed by default on 16.04, or do I have it for some other reason?
[22:24] <bekks> B0g4r7: you have it because you installed that PPA.
[22:24] <B0g4r7> 'k.  It's breaking my apt.  I think I'll turn it off.
[22:24] <Count_H> the ip page isnt working unable to handle this request when trying to get to phpmyadmin
[22:24] <ikonia> that wont fix it
[22:25] <B0g4r7> ikonia, are you talking to me?
[22:25] <wafflej0ck> hi Harry-GAA001 well issue here is just that mbstring isn't a default module so it needs to be installed separately but when it installs the php.ini that your php module is using isn't getting the mbstring.ini in that folder I mentioned above included apparently, I had the same issue when upgrading yesterday
[22:26] <ikonia> yes
[22:26] <B0g4r7> Hmm.  My theory is that that repo is left over from when I ran the 16.04 beta.  Now that 16.04 is released, the repo is no longer maintained or needed.
[22:26] <Count_H> the /etc/php/7.0/mods-available directory  ?
[22:27] <Count_H> so is we were to ls that dir we would get the mbstring.so file
[22:27] <Count_H> to veryfy that it is indeed installed
[22:28] <bekks> Count_H: Did you install the package mentioned in the link given?
[22:28] <wafflej0ck> bekks, it was already installed earlier
[22:28] <TJ-> skjones: I think the gnome-software bug is it doesn't build its internal cache of applications before it first starts
[22:29] <hpp> so is this mir thingy enabled on 16.04?
[22:29] <bekks> hpp: No.
[22:29] <wafflej0ck> Count_H, http://paste.ubuntu.com/16041576/ <-- this was already there but just restarting apache didn't seem to work for me so I loaded it in the php.ini as well
[22:29] <Count_H> sudo apt-get install php7.0-mbstring ? yes
[22:30] <wafflej0ck> Count_H, yeah you did that earlier right?
[22:31] <Count_H> how did you get that pastbin data from
[22:31] <Count_H> sorry we really new to this side of it
[22:31] <Count_H> yes wafflej0ck
[22:31] <wafflej0ck> Count_H, just ran that terminal on my side and copied/pasted it
[22:31] <Harry-GAA001> I have done the install mbstring part
[22:31] <Harry-GAA001> ok one sec
[22:33] <LynxCode> hi
[22:34] <Harry-GAA001> When i enter that command into the terminal I get the following back "-bash: /etc/php/7.0/mods-available#: No such file or directory"
[22:34] <wafflej0ck> Harry-GAA001, after you installed the mbstring module did you restart apache2, sudo service apache2 restart ?
[22:34] <reisio> Harry-GAA001: seems pretty straightforward a message
[22:35] <Count_H> is the bit before your # the prompt on your sytem
[22:35] <jajaja> im trying to resive my windows partition to install ubuntu, but gparted say its unable to read the contents of the file system
[22:35] <R13ose> How do I see the errors during upgrade?  I have restarted yet but I want to see the errors first.
[22:35] <Harry-GAA001> Yes I did restart apache
[22:35] <Count_H> so at the terminal in the dir ...... .... type cat mvbstring.ini
[22:36] <reisio> jajaja: far more straighforward and efficient to use an additional disk for dual booting
[22:36] <jajaja> reisio: impossible since im on notebook
[22:36] <Count_H> reisio: missunderstood the prompt as a command , my bad
[22:36] <Harry-GAA001> Reisio, what do you mean by the comment?
[22:37] <reisio> jajaja: it's true many notebooks have only one sata connection easily available
[22:37] <wafflej0ck> Harry-GAA001, okay cd /etc/php/7.0
[22:37] <Count_H> cd /etc/php/7.0/mods-available && cat mbstring.ini
[22:37] <Count_H> would produce the same result
[22:37] <reisio> Harry-GAA001: kind of a terrible default prompt you have there
[22:38] <TJ-> jajaja: the reason is that you probably didn't fully shutdown Windows, but only did a (fast) hibernate - the Windows default since Win8 I think. You need to boot Windows, go to its Advanced Shutdown menu, and do a total shutdown. That way the disk data is committed
[22:38] <reisio> Harry-GAA001: if you actually want the path in your prompt, this is a better approach: \[\033[36m\][\w]\[\033[0m\]\n\[\033[1;36m\]\[\033[1;32;1m\]$\[\e[0m\
[22:38] <reisio> but using 'pwd' when you're lost is even more straightforward
[22:38] <Count_H> ok we got that confirmed in the pastebin exaclty as pastedc
[22:38] <TheGuestOfTheHou> There's Dropbox, that syncs folders. Is there a similar program that both syncs folders, acts like a real folder, and is free (I'd be storing everything on my own equipment)
[22:38] <Harry-GAA001> Done that, got same three lines
[22:38] <Count_H> harry is not native to ubuntu
[22:38] <Count_H> my background is freebsd
[22:38] <reisio> TheGuestOfTheHou: you might want lsyncd
[22:39] <LynxCode> I have a problem about battery usage on ubuntu. Can any one help me?
[22:39] <reisio> TheGuestOfTheHou: or for something more rigid, just rsync & cron
[22:39] <jajaja> TJ-: windows was shutdown properly.. gparted only reads the boot partiton on sda (sda1)
[22:39] <Harry-GAA001> Thanks Reisio, you clearly know I'm new to this :P
[22:39] <Count_H> everyone starts somewhere
[22:39] <jajaja> TJ-: sda2, windows itself, nop
[22:39] <reisio> Harry-GAA001: well distros like to use a prompt like that by default, but I couldn't tell you why, as nobody likes it
[22:40] <reisio> it's absurd to start typing and see your text being half-way across the terminal because you're at a long path
[22:40]  * reisio shrugs
[22:40] <Count_H> well i use csh as my main hence why the # thre me usaully promts end with a $ or > so ....
[22:40] <Harry-GAA001> Ok I get it now, mock the noob :P
[22:40] <TJ-> jajaja: so sda2 will the NTFS... and the Linux ntfs tools will refuse to mount or work with any NTFS file-system that has its dirty bit still set.
[22:40]  * Majora320 says Hello WOrld
[22:41] <jajaja> TJ-: also, on sdb (my storage hdd), all good, with msftdata
[22:41] <wafflej0ck> Harry-GAA001, yeah so for some reason I have that file as well and I did the same steps as you yesterday and was still getting the mbstring error so I just added extension=mbstring.so to my php.ini file (at the bottom of the file) and it loaded it up fine when I restarted apache after that.. another bit of weirdness to add I just took that out and restarted the server again and it seems to still be working...
[22:41] <reisio> I only use '#' for root
[22:41] <reisio> so many people use '#' for root and '$' for non-root, it's kinda misleading to try and do otherwise in examples
[22:41] <jajaja> TJ-: i'll try to shutdown the way u said so
[22:42] <BCB> ikonia: how do I add a caching nameserver in ubuntu 14
[22:42] <TJ-> jajaja: 7 times out of 10 that's the cause we find
[22:42] <Harry-GAA001> I will just give apache a restart and see if it's changed anything
[22:42] <Count_H> thanks reisio...
[22:42] <ikonia> BCB: why do you want to do that ?
[22:42]  * reisio shrugs
[22:42] <TJ-> jajaja:  I suspect also BitKeeper disk encryption could also prevent it, although I have no direct experience of that
[22:43] <jajaja> TJ-: iIdont use it, not even uefi
[22:43] <TJ-> jajaja: well UEFI is actually great for multiboot systems
[22:43] <BCB> because if I do "dig and ip and add "@8.8.8.8 it returns a value.  The content of my resolv.conf is empty
[22:43] <Harry-GAA001> Nope still showing exactly the same error :/
[22:43] <TheGuestOfTheHou> reisio, I want to make a snapshot of my Minecraft server, and run the snapshot every server restart. Since I want to do this, the server will never save any changes. Can I have lsyncd only request (as in network connection) files when they are needed?
[22:43] <reisio> jajaja: you might try ntfsresize directly (don't forget your backups :p)
[22:44] <reisio> TheGuestOfTheHou: I'd use rsync in that case
[22:44] <TheGuestOfTheHou> reisio, or is lsyncd always trying to download and upload to match up with the other.
[22:44] <jajaja> TJ-: hdd is already on MBR table :/
[22:44] <TheGuestOfTheHou> reisio, ok. Thanks!~
[22:44] <reisio> TheGuestOfTheHou: or something like rdiff-backup (rsync based) / obnam / bup / etc.
[22:44] <Harry-GAA001> I ran the command you mentioned, got the same three lines. My info.php clearly shows mbstring is there too.
[22:44] <BCB> ikonia: because if I do "dig an ip and add "@8.8.8.8 it returns a value.  The content of my resolv.conf is empty
[22:44] <Count_H> dont u just love irc netsplits  sighs
[22:45] <TJ-> BCB: Network Manager should be managing the network connections and part of that is to supervise a dnsmasq caching server locally, and its address should be 127.0.1.1 and in /run/resolvconf/resolv.conf and /etc/resolv.conf should be a symbolic link to that file
[22:45] <ikonia> BCB: so why do you need a caching name server ?
[22:45] <reisio> TheGuestOfTheHou: what's nice about rdiff-backup is that it dedupes, and is dead simple, and there's a FUSE FS for restoration from it
[22:45] <jajaja> reisio: from cmdline?
[22:45] <TJ-> jajaja: msdos/MBR is fine for UEFI, it is mandated in the UEFI specs as well as GPT
[22:45] <Count_H> is there a way to veryfy that mysql installed correctly
[22:45] <reisio> TheGuestOfTheHou: so if 1 byte of a 70GB file changes, only the diff necessary to to preserve that single changed byte is transferred in a future backup (dedupe)
[22:45] <BCB> TJ I added two ips to the existing nic and now dig and host do not return data
[22:45] <reisio> TheGuestOfTheHou: rdiff-backup source/ destination/ (dead simple)
[22:46] <wafflej0ck> Count_H, you can run mysql at the command line by itself but the mbstring.so error in phpmyadmin is really just that module missing
[22:46] <TheGuestOfTheHou> reisio, should I use rdiff-backup? I'm looking for something that works, and works well.
[22:46] <ikonia> BCB: you keep repeating this - the problem is when you add the IP's you are being your DNS resolver,
[22:46] <wafflej0ck> Count_H, at a terminal, mysql -u root -p, will connect to the local mysql instance
[22:46] <reisio> TheGuestOfTheHou: rdiff-backup-fs mount/point original/backup/destination (simple)
[22:46] <ikonia> BCB: you need to know what your DNS resoler is
[22:46] <ikonia> resolver
[22:46] <reisio> TheGuestOfTheHou: I would definitely give rdiff-backup a shot, yeah
[22:46] <Count_H> ok for now we assume mysql is installed
[22:46] <TJ-> BCB: if you're manually managing the interfaces then Network Manager will ignore those and let you get on with it, so you'll have to see "man interfaces" and add some dns-nameservers entries to /etc/network/interfaces too
[22:46] <reisio> TheGuestOfTheHou: the only thing I would use in place of rdiff-backup is something that did all the same things as rdiff-backup
[22:46] <Harry-GAA001> So everytime I try to navigate to http://(my-ip-address)/phpmyadmin it just tells me "the (my-ip) page isn't working and is currently unable to handle this request. 500
[22:46] <reisio> it's very well conceived
[22:47] <reisio> TheGuestOfTheHou: snapshots you can use with certain filesystems achieve a similar end result, though
[22:47] <wafflej0ck> Harry-GAA001, 500 errors should show you something in the web server log tail -f /var/log/apache2/error.log
[22:47] <BCB> TJ-: ahhh.  I added the ips manually.  I'll try that
[22:47] <reisio> TheGuestOfTheHou: deduplication, ease of use, easy restoration
[22:47] <reisio> but I prefer userland stuff
[22:47] <Jordan_U> lol/lastlog uefi
[22:47] <wafflej0ck> Harry-GAA001, 500 means internal server error (generic server failed to handle request for some reason)
[22:48] <BCB> TJ  so how to I programatically add ip to the existing interface
[22:48] <Harry-GAA001> The server also won't allow me to connect via ftp either. Says connection refused.
[22:48] <BCB> TJ-:  so how to I programatically add ip to the existing interface
[22:48] <wafflej0ck> Harry-GAA001, the, tail -f /var/log/apache2/error.log, will show you end of the log file and show more errors as they come in
[22:49] <wafflej0ck> Harry-GAA001, these all sound like separate issues and separate services take them one at a time
[22:49] <TheGuestOfTheHou> reisio, do I only get rdiff-backup, or...?
[22:49] <TheGuestOfTheHou> reisio, is there more to get?
[22:49] <jajaja> TJ-: advanced shutdown doesn't work.. gparted info's says "The following list of software packages is required for ntfs filesystem support: ntfs-3g / ntfsprogs"... im on ubuntu 16 live
[22:49] <TJ-> BCB: "programmatically" ? Either configure Network Manager system connections for them, or use ifupdown's /etc/network/interfaces
[22:49] <Harry-GAA001> Ok I'll check the error log bit
[22:50] <reisio> TheGuestOfTheHou: I would also get rdiff-backup-fs, as it makes restoration if you should need to far simpler
[22:50] <TJ-> jajaja: ahhh... so you need to install those? I thought they were installed... in fact I vaguely recall someone else seeing that and the warning was actually caused by the file-systems needing checking by Windows chkdsk... ntfs-3g tools were already installed.
[22:51] <TJ-> jajaja: in a terminal, run "dpkg -l ntfs*" and see if you get a list of those as installed (will show "ii" in the 1st column)
[22:51] <reisio> TheGuestOfTheHou: so if you ran rdiff-backup foo/ bar/ a thousand times over 20 years, rdiff-backup-fs would present all those thousand backups as separate, timestamped directories in a logical hierarchy
[22:51] <jajaja> TJ-: ntfs-3g only
[22:52] <reisio> TheGuestOfTheHou: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Rdiff-backup#Usage
[22:53] <TJ-> jajaja:  ntfs-3g contains everything required, so I still think there's a dirty marker on the file-system
[22:53] <reisio> TheGuestOfTheHou: if you only want a 1:1 copy, or even a current-and-previous-only set, you might just use rsync alone instead
[22:53] <reisio> rdiff-backup is better for cumulative, eternal backups
[22:53] <jajaja> TJ-: will try a chkdsk
[22:53] <reisio> being able to restore to a backup from a year ago, etc.
[22:54] <richard28711> can someone please help me
[22:54] <TJ-> jajaja: see also "man ntfsfix" for some background
[22:55] <Harry-GAA001> Ok the last entry in the error log is "PHP Fatal error: require_once(): Failed opening required '/user/share/php/php-gettext/gettext.inc' (include_path='.:/user/share/php') in user/share/phpmyadmin/libraries/select_lang.lib.php on line 477
[22:56] <TJ-> jajaja: online its here: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/xenial/en/man8/ntfsfix.8.html
[22:56] <bekks> richard28711: help you regarding which issue?
[22:56] <jajaja> TJ-: ok.. could it be because im using ssd?
[22:56] <TJ-> Harry-GAA001: do those paths *really* start with "/user/" and not "/usr/" ?
[22:56] <richard28711> Thanks Bekks is it safe to download 16.04 if i use a radeon graphics card
[22:56] <TheGuestOfTheHou> reisio, are the clients and servers?
[22:57] <Harry-GAA001> typo :P my bad
[22:57] <TJ-> jajaja: that shouldn't have any effect on the issue you're seeing, which is file-system related
[22:57] <TJ-> Harry-GAA001: *phew*
[22:57] <Harry-GAA001> I'm working on a laptop and pc at the same time :P
[22:58] <TJ-> Harry-GAA001: so check what package should have that file: "dpkg -S /usr/share/phpmyadmin/php-gettext/gettext.inc" and ensure that package is installed
[22:58] <richard28711> Bekks r u there
[22:59] <TheGuestOfTheHou> reisio, sorry. What I mean is: are there clients and servers, for rdiff-backup?
[23:00] <richard28711> can anyone please help me
[23:00] <TheGuestOfTheHou> richard28711, please state your issue.
[23:01] <Harry-GAA001> I typed in that command and it says dkpg-query: no path found matching pattern and then repeats the file path
[23:01] <richard28711> is it safe to download 16.04 if i use a radeon graphics card
[23:02] <OerHeks> ati is not only an ubuntu nightmare, use the open driver
[23:02] <dax> richard28711: yes, Ubuntu will pick the radeon or amdgpu driver depending on which card you have
[23:02] <dax> the only difference in 16.04 is that fglrx isn't in it. which is fine anyway since fglrx was awful
[23:04] <richard28711> gr8 because it said something about not downloading the beta as graphic card situation had not
[23:04] <richard28711> been finalized so u r assuring me that it has
[23:05] <Count_H> sudo apt-get install php-gettext ?
[23:05] <Kramerboy> Hello, in Ubuntu 16 the wifi adapter Intel 7260 AC is showing up as an ethernet adapter. Any way this can be fixed?
[23:05] <pezdispenser> Hi there, I installed a game, I can't seem to find it's directory, I need to locate it to edit a .config file,  easy way I can find this ?
[23:05] <terabit> I don't need anyone to tell me which way the wind shines
[23:06] <dax> richard28711: the release notes for beta and release both say what i just said
[23:06] <Count_H> and thats widershines which is the old word for counterclockwise terabit
[23:06] <Harry-GAA001> Just looking at an article which seems to say something about symlinks being the root of the problem with gettext issue, just reading it
[23:06] <wafflej0ck> pezdispenser, how's you install the game?
[23:06] <wafflej0ck> how'd*
[23:07] <dax> richard28711: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes#fglrx
[23:07] <pezdispenser> wafflej0ck:  I installed it through the terminal
[23:07] <wafflej0ck> pezdispenser, from a .deb file?
[23:07] <richard28711> gr8 thanks for the assistance and i hope i like it as they also said that u cannot go back to 15.10
[23:07] <pezdispenser> wafflej0ck:   it was in the repos
[23:07] <terabit> Count_H: u got my reference?
[23:07] <Count_H> kind of
[23:07] <richard28711> can i use sudo apt-get install Ubuntu16.04
[23:07] <TheGuestOfTheHou> reisio, I guess what I want is a client and server thing. When client needs a file, server sends it. When client needs to write, it will send to server. But, I want something that is usable as a real directory.
[23:08] <wafflej0ck> pezdispenser, okay can do dpkg -L somepackageName, should show you all the files in there
[23:08] <Count_H> bit busy at the moment terabit but thanks all the same
[23:08] <wafflej0ck> pezdispenser, dpkg -L somepackagename | grep config, might be easier
[23:08] <terabit> Kk,from a movie fyi
[23:09] <Count_H> is that like saying you smell a funny colour  terabit
[23:09] <richard28711> Thanks for the help everyone
[23:09] <wafflej0ck> richard28711, you can run sudo update-manager -d, to install, also see patience
[23:09] <pezdispenser> wafflej0ck:  it's an older game,  wolfenstein enemy territory,  not sure what it installed it under,  et, enemy territory, wolfenstein,  but i cannot seem to locate it with these commands,  as well as the find command
[23:10] <wafflej0ck> pezdispenser, well you had the package name when you installed it right? all you need it the package name the rest is built in
[23:10] <terabit> Count_H: mysterymen quote
[23:10] <Harry-GAA001> Ok, installed the php-gettext and I am now at the phpmyadmin login page so that's one step further forward :)
[23:11] <pezdispenser> wafflej0ck:  it's just  , sudo apt-get install et,    but i cannot find it now,  and the game runs
[23:11] <wafflej0ck> pezdispenser, dpkg -L et
[23:11] <wafflej0ck> pezdispenser, run that should show the file list in that package
[23:12] <wafflej0ck> pezdispenser, then if you want to find a file called config in that list, dpkg -L et | grep config
[23:16] <wafflej0ck> Harry-GAA001, cool good to hear
[23:19] <wafflej0ck> pezdispenser, along with their regular config that typically ends up somewhere in /etc programs will also have per user config files typically in ~/.config
[23:20] <Count_H> ok we are jsut restetting the mysql  password , but connecting over a putty from windows ssl connection
[23:22] <jajaja> TJ-: so, chkdsk get something, but gparted still give's me that info
[23:22] <Count_H> we ran  sudo /etc/init.d/mysql stop
[23:22] <Count_H> then sudo /usr/sbin/mysqld --skip-grant-tables --skip-networking &
[23:22] <Count_H> mysql -u root gives the follwoing error
[23:23] <n-iCe> is it true that ubuntu 16.04 feels faster?
[23:23] <jajaja> TJ-: ntfsfix returns nothing
[23:23] <Harry-GAA001> Trying to reset the Mysql password, the error I'm getting is "Error 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)
[23:23] <reisio> n-iCe: sure
[23:23] <n-iCe> reisio: really? you feel it?
[23:23] <wafflej0ck> Harry-GAA001, sounds like the mysql server daemon process isn't running
[23:23] <Count_H> ty harry
[23:24] <wafflej0ck> Harry-GAA001, try sudo service mysql status, or sudo service mysql start
[23:24] <reisio> n-iCe: I don't, no
[23:24] <Count_H> but we started it with sudo /usr/sbin/mysqld --skip-grant-tables
[23:24] <locksmith> Hi
[23:25] <Rhorse> About what % of the upgrades to Xenial are having issues - does anyone have an estimate?
[23:25] <reisio> Rhorse: some%, for sure
[23:26] <Rhorse> reisio: naturally...
[23:26] <UserUS> so windows says it cannot access the offline boot menu, and ubuntu 16 will not boot due to errors with /dev/sda11?
[23:27] <wafflej0ck> Count_H, Harry-GAA001 ah okay can you sudo ls /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock did it create the unix socket "file" there? alternatively can maybe try through a TCP connection using -h flag when connecting and passing the host name (localhost or 127.0.0.1) not sure why it isn't making the socket though either really
[23:29] <reisio> UserUS: errors?
[23:29] <UserUS> Xorg
[23:29] <UserUS> and isize
[23:30] <wafflej0ck> Count_H, Harry-GAA001 http://serverfault.com/questions/279366/what-should-mysqld-sock-contain-why-dont-i-have-it <-- this has some explanation about the unix sockets and this one in particular possibly the regular mysql service was still running when you try launching mysqld ? kill that off and sudo service stop mysql, then try to start mysqld again and connect to it
[23:31] <Count_H> wafflej0ck:  we are in to phpmyadmin asking for login but our root login is not being accepted
[23:32] <Count_H> the var run mysqld.sock file is presnet from the above command
[23:32] <wafflej0ck> Count_H, yeah I follow you, would try first at the command line mysql -u root -p, will prompt for the password. I'm still suspect if the mysql service was still running and therefore that's the old lock file not one for the mysqld you launched
[23:33] <Harry-GAA001> the sudo ls /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock returned the same line one below
[23:33] <Count_H> i think right now we need to asccertain , if mysql login credentials are correct , and if we initialised the mysql db at install after the LAMP group installed it
[23:33] <AEL-H> Hey guys, I am running a python script in a screen (provided by dropbox here https://www.dropbox.com/en_GB/install?os=lnx)
[23:33] <AEL-H> I am SSH'ing into my box, when I exit the SSH session the screen stays on and the process that was started lingers, but it seems to stop actually functioning, does anyone know what the problem might be?
[23:33] <Count_H> ok we will try that
[23:33] <wafflej0ck> that's the old socket file* I meant not lock file...
[23:38] <Harry-GAA001> Ok so I have managed to restart the mysql server, but it still won't let me do the thing where you start mysql skipping the grant tables, throws an error and won't restart mysql
[23:40] <dbarros> is there a way to a guest-XXXXX write a file in /var/tmp/fixedfile.log, owned by a 'guest-prefs' account? I can't seem to accomplish this. I would like to know if it's possible that each new guest-XXXXX created is part of the 'guest-prefs' group.
[23:41] <bekks> dbarros: Thats how you want to solve a specific issue - but what is the actual issue?
[23:47] <wafflej0ck> Harry-GAA001, hmm okay not sure where you're stuck on that exactly, good to show commands and output if possible (I realize your jumping between computers right now) but otherwise harder for me to guess at whats happening
[23:48] <Harry-GAA001> I can manage to stop mysql fine and I can restart in safe mode using sudo mysqld_safe --skip-grant-tables & however, when I then try mysql -uroot I get an error saying "Error 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)
[23:49] <wafflej0ck> Harry-GAA001, okay if you run sudo service mysql status, does it show as stopped?
[23:49] <Harry-GAA001> Yea I get ya, just a bit slow trying to type from one to the other
[23:52] <Harry-GAA001> Ok I get a load of info back saying mysql.service - My SQL Commnunity Server followed by various lines saying loaded, enabled etc
[23:54] <lucas-arg> hey guys this is a simple question, i had to remove all my .files i dont know why i couldnt log in my user, after that all is ok, but ive lost the gnome terminal configuration... like colours that they have now, how can i recover them??
[23:54] <wafflej0ck> Harry-GAA001, yeah so the Active: part there should not say active(running) if it does we want to sudo serivce mysql stop, then ctrl+c where you had the mysqld running and restart that
[23:55] <Harry-GAA001> Under "Active inactive" it says (dead)
[23:55] <wafflej0ck> Harry-GAA001, ok that's not it then...
[23:57] <Harry-GAA001> So at the moment, I can stop and start the service fine, I just can't do the skip-grant-tables bit to allow me to set a new password. Even though I know the password I'm trying to use it correct.
[23:58] <wafflej0ck> when you re-ran mysqld it recreated the .sock file too or not, it should have been created, when you try to mysql -u root, you shouldn't actually need a password if it's skipping checking grants
[23:58] <wafflej0ck> Harry-GAA001, ^
[23:59] <Harry-GAA001> I can't get it to do the skip-grant-tables. It throws the above error when I try that method
[23:59] <lucas-arg> no one knows how to colorize my gnome terminal??