[03:33] <joejoe> Hellp
[03:34] <joejoe> how is everyone? i need help getting started in java. anyone have online resources i might be able to use
[07:08] <danwe> Good Morning, Does anyone of you UbuntuStudio users had been asked to upgrade his LTS? Im waiting for my software updater to prompt me the question and nothing happens. also via Terminal. someone has a clue? many thanks
[07:16] <cfhowlett> will not appear until 16.04.1
[08:40] <zequence> danwe: If you want to upgrade now, please make sure to have backed up your stuff first, then in a terminal 'do-release-upgrade'
[09:11] <zequence> danwe: If you want to try the new package selection, you may want to try the live ISO, and then do a fresh install instead. Otherwise, you'll be getting new packages added to your old ones. Some have been replaces over the years.
[09:32] <Hobbyboy> OvenWerks: on http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/ubuntustudio/
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[10:11] <olinuxx> great contribution, thanks :)
[10:37] <ssqatc> hi i have problem in apt-get update
[10:45] <zequence> ssqatc: What kind of problem?
[10:49] <ssqatc> a message like this :
[10:49] <ssqatc> W: Target DEP-11 (restricted/dep11/Components-amd64.yml) is configured multiple times in /etc/apt/sources.list:2 and /etc/apt/sources.list:8
[10:50] <ssqatc> and the apt-get process doesn't complete
[11:00] <zequence> ssqatc_: Have you changed something in the file /etc/apt/sources.list?
[11:00] <zequence> Sure it doesn't complete?
[11:04] <ssqatc_> no i didn't i installed the xenial and run the sudo apt-get update in the terminal
[11:51] <michael__> hi
[11:53] <Guest22775> thanks for the armhf packages for xenial. I am right now installing ubuntu studio on my rpi3 :)
[12:31] <EDinNY> Any ideas why my camera mounted in 14.04, but on in 16.04?
[12:32] <Guest22775> is v4l installed?
[12:33] <EDinNY> v4l?  is that v4 and the letter L?
[12:33] <Guest22775> video for linux
[12:33] <EDinNY> It is a digital camera.  I expect it to be mounted as a drive
[12:34] <Guest22775> can you use /dev/video0 via vlc?
[12:35] <EDinNY> No, Guest22775, I am trying to pull JPGs off my digital camera
[12:35] <EDinNY> Real low-tech stuff!
[12:36] <EDinNY> Syslog says: mount: unknown filesystem type 'exfat'
[12:36] <Guest22775> ah, mtp or something like that, no realtime video ...
[12:37] <EDinNY> Just trying to pull in the pictures from yesterday!
[12:37] <EDinNY> mount: unknown filesystem type 'exfat'
[12:37] <Guest22775> aren't there tools for exfat to install?
[12:37] <EDinNY> checking that now
[12:38] <Guest22775> exfat-fuse
[12:38] <EDinNY> just found that, thanks
[12:38] <Guest22775> exfat-utils
[12:39] <EDinNY> Got it!
[12:39] <EDinNY>  sudo apt-get install exfat-fuse exfat-utils
[12:40] <Guest22775> or sudo apt install exfat-fuse exfat-utils
[12:40] <Guest22775> apt is nearly new
[12:44] <Guest22775> will WebcamStudio be supported in Ubuntu Studio in the future?
[12:56] <Guest22775> ok, another question, are some kernel guys here? i have problems with btrfs. esspacialy to mount an btrfs formated sd-card for xbian. error with option 10 or something like that, is that a known bug?
[13:05] <studio-user386> qualcuno parla italiano?
[13:06] <studio-user386> ffdiaporama problemi codificaù
[13:31] <zequence> Guest22775: xbian? Sound more like a question for xbian people. We don't directly have anything to do with rasberry PI development here. It's all third party, AFAIK
[13:33] <Guest22775> the problem is the kernel in ubuntu, not in xbian ... ubuntu kernel do not support all btrfs options
[13:38] <Guest22775> damnit, now i got problems with dependencies in Ubuntu Studio on my rpi3 :( /var/cache/apt/archives/calligra-libs_1%3a2.9.7-0ubuntu12_armhf.deb is making trouble ...
[13:48] <zequence> Guest22775: As said, we don't do any raspberry pi development here. You could ask about btrfs on a more generic channel as well, like #ubuntu
[13:50] <Guest22775> but armhf?
[13:51] <zequence> Guest22775: Ubuntu Studio doesn't support armhf yet, though Ubuntu does
[13:51] <Guest22775> ?
[13:51] <zequence> All the packages are in the same archive, but we don't have any testing or support for Ubuntu Studio packages in armhf
[13:52] <Guest22775> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntustudio-meta/0.154
[13:52] <Guest22775> there is armhf listed
[13:53] <zequence> Guest22775: Packages are built for all archs, but we don't test them for any other arch than i386 and amd64. I.e we have no support for anything else
[13:54] <zequence> We also only have install mediums for those two archs for the same reason
[13:54] <Guest22775> so for what are you bilding armhf, just for fun?
[13:54] <zequence> Not we. Canonical
[13:54] <Guest22775> ahh
[13:54] <Guest22775> ok
[13:54] <Guest22775> sorry
[13:54] <zequence> np
[14:01] <Guest22775> zequence, a general question about Ubuntu Studio and the low-latency-Kernel, why aren't you using a rt-Kernel? i've seen, that there are patches for stretch (debian) ...
[14:15] <Guest22775> hmm, how do i fix my problem with the missing dependencies? sudo apt-get -f install do not fix it ...
[14:41] <OvenWerks> Guest22775: RT kernel breaks a lot of people's gpu drivers. Lowlatency is good enough for most uses.
[14:42] <OvenWerks> Guest22775: you may not be able to fix those deps on a Pi. The missing packages may just not be available.
[14:42] <zequence> Guest22775: Debian has its own kernel maintainenance apart from Ubuntu. We introduced the linux-lowlatency, as it requires no patch and is simpler to maintain
[14:48] <OvenWerks> Guest22775: webcamstudio is not in the ubuntu archives, only through a PPA. The normal stream is to first get it packaged and into debian repos and then ask for a sync to ubuntu repos
[14:48] <Guest22775> i thought rt-kernel in linux is dead, only living in android and other enbedded devices. but after some research i was happy to see it again on stretch. therfore i was wondering, that ubuntu is not going the same way ...
[14:49] <OvenWerks> RT on android? I would suggest the android HW is not really RT capable...
[14:50] <OvenWerks> most of the RT code and patches are already in the mainline lernel by now. This is what lowlatency is based on.
[14:50] <Guest22775> i was reading android-kernel is also using rt. isn't it?
[14:51] <OvenWerks> Guest22775: it may be, but the question is still if the HW is really able to make use of the RT code... or to put it another way, does the RT code actually give the android lowlatency performance?
[14:52] <zequence> Guest22775: Debian has been using the rt patch for quite some time, but they don't always release the kernel. Haven't since wheezy. And, it's not the most suitable for audio anyway
[14:52]  * OvenWerks has found the adroid latency to be very poor.
[14:55] <Guest22775> OvenWerks, i never produced audio under Android, Android is not my choice. zequence, the discussion about rt-kernel is "nearly" new, many peoples forgot what it is/was ...
[14:55] <OvenWerks> The RPi has similar problems for audio, it is not really a good lowlatency platform because the audio HW is poled, there is no irq. Latency suffers. The beaglebone is better: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/423153472/bela-an-embedded-platform-for-low-latency-interact
[14:57] <OvenWerks> Guest22775: in my case, with the low latency kernel I can operate at the lowest latency my audio interface is capable of (.7ms) already. WHat would I gain from RT?
[14:57] <Guest22775> OvenWerks, a friend of mine got a scarlett 2i4, i'd like to test it with the rpi under ubuntu studio. under ubuntu studio x64 it is working fine ...
[14:57] <OvenWerks> RT kernel is not a silver bullet.
[15:14] <antto> how do i check out what my video card is?
[15:15] <antto> (this computer was given to me, no idea what's inside)
[15:15] <Guest22775> hwinfo ?
[15:16] <Guest22775> lspci
[15:19] <antto> "Intel Corporation 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)"
[15:20] <sirriffsalot> zequence, any drums? :D
[15:23] <Guest22775> more easy: lshw -c video
[15:24] <zequence> sirriffsalot: I said in a week, didn't I :)?
[15:24] <sirriffsalot> zequence, oh, I missed that... sorry
[15:24] <zequence> I'm pretty busy until Wednesday, so may be I won't have time until after that
[15:25] <zequence> Will have a look as soon as I get to the studio.
[15:25] <sirriffsalot> Cheers :)
[15:32] <zequence> antto: lspci | grep VGA
[15:32] <zequence> Seems like Intel of some kind from that line you posted
[15:33] <antto> yeah, but that's the most information i got
[15:33] <EDinNY> which  flashplugin-installer should I be using?
[15:54] <zequence> EDinNY: Think there's only one. You get all of that non-free stuff in a single package - ubuntu-restricted-extras, if you want to have that. In a terminal: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[18:38] <lukas_> hallo
[18:55] <studio-user669> tag
[18:55] <studio-user669> kann mir hier jemand helfen ein nas laufwerk einzubinden
[18:56] <krytarik> !de | studio-user669