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[01:26] <archonii> Hi folks.
[01:26] <archonii> Anyone here?
[01:27] <archonii> It says the upgrade can take several hours. That scares me.
[01:27] <archonii> Why does the original install take just ten minutes but the upgrade takes several hours?
[01:31] <the-erm> I think it's because it's downloading & replacing every package.
[01:32] <the-erm> Also apt is running it's scripts for every package, but I digress you left.
[01:32] <Unit193> Not technically every package, only upgraded/new ones.
[01:33] <the-erm> With the install I think it's pretty much just copying files.
[01:33] <Unit193> unsquash'ing the filesystem.
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[07:36] <pavlushka> Hello every one!
[07:57] <pavlushka> Hello every one!
[07:58] <flocculant> pavlushka: stop doing that in a support channel please
[07:59] <pavlushka> I just trying to be polite before asking my problem
[07:59] <flocculant> !ask | pavlushka
[07:59] <ubottu> pavlushka: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience
[08:00] <pavlushka> I cant login to gui but other tty shells allows me
[08:00] <pavlushka> running Xubuntu 16.04
[09:50] <intherye> Hi all, I'm playing around with the Xubuntu 16.04 final ISO, and it's not usable in VirtualBox. When the Language selection should come, the screen is scrambled (strange colors), the screen width is much wider than it should be. If I move to some region, I can see the mouse cursor, but it's also corrupted. When I enable EFI, the language dialog is displayed correctly. I did not have this issue with the last beta or the dailies from some days ago.
[09:50] <intherye>  Anybody seen that? (I'm using NVidia proprietary drivers on my host machine)
[09:52] <flocculant> intherye: I've not seen that - and I used vbox rather a lot with various iterations of the iso
[09:52] <flocculant> I'll boot it up now again though
[09:53] <intherye> I also never had that before, and also used a lot of different ISOs (OSes, distros, builds ...)
[09:54] <flocculant> intherye: arch? langauage?
[09:55] <intherye> host: amd64, guest: amd64. language: english_US
[09:55] <flocculant> intherye: ack
[09:56] <flocculant> mmm - actually I'd need to install nvidia I guess
[09:57] <flocculant> intherye: if I don't reply in the next few minutes - this half yakkety/half xenial install hasn't liked installing nvidia :p
[09:58] <flocculant> and I'll blame you :D
[09:58] <intherye> I can switch the driver to use the Intel card (hybrid card). I will try that in a minute.
[09:58] <intherye> :-)
[09:58] <flocculant> rebooting
[09:59] <intherye> logging out
[10:03] <flocculant> intherye: not seeing that issue here either with or without efi
[10:04] <flocculant> I'll try now with the actual released iso and not the zsynced daily ...
[10:06] <flocculant> intherye: ok - so not seeing that - all of the install dialogues are fine
[10:06] <flocculant> which is good cos this is the iso I'm seeding ;)
[10:07] <flocculant> I assume that the image you have is good?
[10:07] <intherye> i have the problem still with the Intel driver.
[10:07] <flocculant> mmm
[10:08] <flocculant> well - not sure what I can suggest tbh - would appear to be a local thing - not saying that others wouldn't see the same thing ofc
[10:08] <flocculant> I turned off network so it assumed I was a yank too
[10:09] <flocculant> intherye: the only other variable we could sensibly look at would be which VBox - I use the oracle version
[10:10] <intherye> the image is ok, sha256sum is correct. i'm using the vbox from ubuntu-repo
[10:10] <flocculant> right
[10:10] <flocculant> possible I guess
[10:11] <intherye> strange that it worked with the previous versions.
[10:11] <flocculant> intherye: this the first time you tried with 16.04?
[10:11] <intherye> no, i used 16.04 beta, and one of the last dailies, and everything was OK there
[10:11] <flocculant> ok
[10:12] <flocculant> not sure there were any updates in the last few days which would have affected this
[10:12] <flocculant> certainly not from our end
[10:13] <intherye> for me it's not really important ATM. I just wanted to play around, and when I saw the issue, wanted to check if it's known or reproducible.
[10:13] <flocculant> yup
[10:13] <flocculant> well I'll remove vb and grab the repo version
[10:14] <intherye> i'll check if I find some more info about that, and maybe ask in a ubuntu channel. thanks for your help in the meantime, and thanks also for Xubuntu 16.06!!! (so no holidays for the team?)
[10:15] <flocculant> yea - I just jump on asap for testing
[10:15] <flocculant> intherye: yea askiing there might be useful - more eyes
[10:15] <flocculant> just trying with the repo version now
[10:16] <intherye> pressing the host-key+F2, and again host-key+F1 repairs the display. the language selection is shown.
[10:17] <flocculant> mmm
[10:17] <flocculant> I'd guess this is a vbox thing
[10:17] <intherye> can i access a text console (alt+F2-Fx) during the live iso?
[10:18] <flocculant> anyway - can't reproduce with either versions of vbox here
[10:18] <flocculant> intherye: afaik yes you can
[10:18] <flocculant> username is xubuntu, no password
[10:19] <intherye> and graphical installer is the first one? (I cannot login at the others=
[10:21] <flocculant> graphical is F7
[10:22] <flocculant> intherye: I can login to any F1-6 here
[10:35] <xubuntu20o> Hi
[10:37] <xubuntu20o> How to upgrade the os from the console ?
[10:37] <intherye> i cannot login to the consoles in the LiveCD. when i enable EFI, i first get an error "Fsw ERROR: InstallMulipleProtocolInterfaces returned 2", then I see the grub menu with "try xubuntu" and "install", "oem"  and "check disc". are the betas still downloadable, to recheck if it's working there?
[10:45] <sissylog> my xfce panels are crashing
[10:45] <sissylog> this started happening right after a numix-theme update today
[10:46] <sissylog> actually its not just the panels but any xfce app thats got to do with changing the desktop'
[10:46] <sissylog> appearance is crashing
[10:50] <xubuntu56i> Trying to install xubuntu 16.04, at the end of the install grub fails, complaining on some uefi... What can I do to fix this?
[10:55] <Nairwolf> Hi, I'm using a gpt computer with efi bios. I'm worried about this issue : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1366546
[10:55] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1366546 in shim (Ubuntu) "Ubuntu doesn't provide \EFI\BOOT\BOOTX64.EFI for UEFI systems" [Undecided,Triaged]
[10:55] <Nairwolf> Can you tell me if I will have some troubles to install Xubuntu 16.04 ?
[10:57] <Nairwolf> For 14.04 I created an EFI partition
[10:57] <Nairwolf> Do you think I should do the same thing
[10:57] <Nairwolf> In fact, I don't understand exactly this issue, and I wonder if it was the same "problem" for 14.04.
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[12:21] <Nairwolf> hi guys, I'm worried about this issue :
[12:21] <Nairwolf> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1366546
[12:21] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1366546 in shim (Ubuntu) "Ubuntu doesn't provide \EFI\BOOT\BOOTX64.EFI for UEFI systems" [Undecided,Triaged]
[12:22] <Nairwolf> I would like to install Xubuntu 16.04 and I'm not really sure to understand this issue
[12:27] <gdi2k> I've installed Xubuntu 16.04 (from scratch - update didn't work from 14.04). Mostly all good, but all my USB devices keep on disconnecting and reseting every few minutes. what's going on? anyone else experiencing this?
[12:30] <Rayne> gdi2k, could it be possible, that Xubuntu runs (USB) in power saving mode?
[12:30] <gdi2k> Rayne, thanks for the tip, anything is possible. let me investigate..
[12:33] <gdi2k> Rayne, rebooting to check if that fixes it...
[12:40] <gdi2k_> Rayne, back again. Issue persists. Screen also blanks randomly (I have dual screens. The one where my cursor is blanks out). Any ideas?
[12:41] <Rayne> gdi2k_, :-(
[12:49] <staya_sinic> rollback to 14.04?
[13:45] <bazhang> reinstall from backups staya_sinic
[14:17] <vaderdots> In the release announcement of 16.04 are indicated some known issues. Is there any way to see if are fixed? Thunar and cursor problems are important for me
[14:17] <bazhang> !notes
[14:17] <ubottu> Ubuntu 16.04 (Xenial Xerus) release notes can be found here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes
[14:18] <bazhang> or check launchpad for outstanding bugs under those tags
[14:19] <Nairwolf> vaderdots: I've heard that Thunar bugs aren't always present
[14:19] <Nairwolf> And if you're afraid you can still use another file manager, I suppose
[14:24] <flocculant> vaderdots: both are still issues
[14:26] <vaderdots> flocculant: i ask for a system to check the status of the issues. I think a launchpad of xubuntu is what im looking for
[14:28] <flocculant> vaderdots: the bugs are listed on the release notes - they link to launchpad bug reports - looking at those tell you if they are fixed release
[14:29] <flocculant> alternatively believe that the person who wrote the release notes knows if they are fixed or not ;)
[14:37] <vaderdots> First time dont see the links to lauchpad, just that, thanks
[14:39] <flocculant> there will always be links on our release notes while I'm writing them :)
[15:52] <Zippy001> Hi guys
[15:52] <Zippy001> Anybody has VLC problems since 16.04 update?
[15:53] <Zippy001> segmentation fault (core dumped)
[15:55] <Zippy001> I can't seem to get VLC working
[15:56] <xubuntu38w> yeah, VLC is also not working for me
[16:09] <joen> hi
[16:20] <VapeDragon> Hi guys, do you know which file do modify to autologin by default on my user in 16.04?
[16:37] <xubuntu613> ????
[16:41] <xubuntu46w> hello can someone help:i have problems with wlan
[17:18] <xubuntu27d> trying to install 16.04 in vbox, and I get this http://i.imgur.com/8gQyXbbl.png
[17:18] <xubuntu27d> right after selecting to install 16.04 at the first menu.
[17:18] <xubuntu27d> NE1 have a solution?
[17:19] <xubuntu27d> running vbox 5.0.18
[17:21] <xubuntu27d> bueller? bueller?
[17:23] <xubuntu27d> is this a known issue? or just me?
[17:26] <xubuntu27d> I tried ubuntustudio 16.04 also, same problem.
[17:36] <xubuntu61w> Hi
[17:37] <xubuntu61w> I nerd help
[18:02] <xubuntu55w> hello
[18:03] <xubuntu55w> I am xubuntu32d from yesterday: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2016/04/23/%23xubuntu.html
[18:03] <xubuntu55w> I'm having trouble getting 16.04lts installed
[18:20] <homer265> Hi ^^
[18:22] <DrCool> xubuntu55w, and homer265 really you should both ask your questions and wait for a response. Don't wait for someone to say "What's your issue.  How can we help."  It probably won't happen that way
[18:42] <xubuntu55w> Hi. I couldn't install xubuntu - the installer said unrecoverable error occured. What is the best place to report this issue? The device is a Lenovo ThinkPad SL510. The MD5 passed for the DVD so the data wasnActually as the GUI loaded it said it crashed, but there was no way to report it because there isn't ethernet/wifi drivers yet	22:19 xubuntu32d	after pressing ok, it s
[18:42] <slee> hi, just noticed something about the new software center...all app buttons list as 'insta;;'...even those you already have installed...buttons no longer show 'remove' for apps installed, you have to click  the 'install' button, then it sees you already have it installed, then it makes the button red with text 'remove'
[18:42] <xubuntu55w> Hi. I couldn't install xubuntu - the installer said unrecoverable error occured. What is the best place to report this issue? The device is a Lenovo ThinkPad SL510. The MD5 passed for the DVD so the data wasn't burnt wrong. Actually as the GUI loaded it said it crashed, but there was no way to report it because there isn't ethernet/wifi drivers yet
[18:42] <slee> *all app buttons list as 'install'
[18:43] <slee> xubuntu55w, have you tried disabling secure boot in BIOS?
[18:43] <xubuntu55w> I looked for it , but there isn't an option for it
[18:44] <slee> sure there is
[18:44] <xubuntu55w> it boots to X11 with the xubuntu theme, but then it crashes
[18:44] <xubuntu55w> after pressing ok, it drops down to a blinking underscore
[18:45] <xubuntu55w> i pressed alt F keys and confirmed that there are several virtual terminals though
[18:45] <xubuntu55w> the x11 one f7 just has the blinking cursor/underscore
[18:46] <slee> i recall the same issues on a lenovo laptop with mint...it would start, then hang, it was a setting in bios that eventually let it install without errors(but i can't remember exactly what it was)
[18:47] <slee> i'm thinking it was the secure boot option i had to disable in 'security' in BIOS
[18:49] <xubuntu55w> Is there any way to pull the crash data/log off of the machine before rebooting?
[18:50] <slee> not that i'm aware of
[18:50] <xubuntu55w> ok
[18:51] <DrCool> I am trying to use startup disk creator to create a bootable USB but it's telling me there is no space on the USB drive.
[18:51] <DrCool> I formated it, ejected it and put it back in again.
[18:51] <xubuntu55w> yeah, there is no secureboot options in bios
[18:52] <xubuntu55w> maybe it is a boot option for the DVD? in "expert mode" when pressing f6 for other options on the xubuntu boot screen
[18:53] <xubuntu55w> DrCool, try a different usb port than the one it just ejected from
[18:54] <xubuntu55w> for burning isos to usb, i've had good experiences with unetbootin
[18:55] <xubuntu55w> I'm going to try again with nomodeset param
[18:55] <DrCool> The past few times I have tried Unetbooting the USB never boots...
[18:56] <DrCool> i'll try
[19:02] <DrCool> all the data appears to be on the USB but it won't boot.
[19:08] <xubuntu27i> hi everyone
[19:09] <xubuntu55w> DrCool, is the machine uefi or bios?
[19:10] <xubuntu55w> hello 27i
[19:13] <xubuntu55w> DrCool and slee, nomodeset seems to be working
[19:14] <xubuntu55w> fyi: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132
[19:14] <xubuntu55w> I think it was a graphics card (or lack of one) issue
[19:17] <xubuntu55w> @xubuntu27i : hi
[19:19] <xubuntu27i> installation finished. gotta go. take care, everyone :)
[19:45] <xubuntu55w> looks like xubuntu install broke the disk filesystem for the co-OS win7 on this machine, running chkdsk because of the repartition
[19:46] <xubuntu55w> Is there a place for xubuntu bug filing  (for the nomodeset / gfx issue)
[19:46] <flocculant> xubuntu55w: it's not an xubuntu bug - it's a general *buntu one
[19:48] <flocculant> that said - Launchpad - if you run ubuntu-bug without giving it a package it will let you choose some things
[20:13] <DrCool> xubuntu55w, I ran a command I found online  $dmesg | grep "EFI v"     it returns nothing, so I guess it's not UEFI.
[20:13] <DrCool> I try to boot the media and it says that no boot media is found.
[20:18] <DrCool> be back in a bit.
[23:09] <RyedDorkeen> will xubuntu 16.04 autotart .desktop files that are in ~/.config/autostart ????
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[23:19] <krytarik> RyedDorkeen: Does it help you if we just say yes?
[23:26] <RyedDorkeen> krytarik: I nuked and paved my brothers 14.04 Voyager Linux Setup  for a standard Xubuntu 16.04 and I enable x11vnc AND diisable screen blanking with .desktop files in autostart. It has worked on every version of Linux I have had him run in the last decade. Now all of a sudden neither is running upon logging in so the answer appears to be "no" by default. Is there some way to renable this behavior? And why in the name of the spi
[23:26] <RyedDorkeen> ked yamsack of Ares why did they disable it?
[23:33] <krytarik> RyedDorkeen: I'm not aware of any (intended) change in behavior.