[17:41] <teward> how large are the Lubuntu RPi images uncompressed?
[17:42] <phillw> teward: -rw-rw-r-- 1 phillw       phillw 3932160000 Apr 18 22:06 lubuntu-15.10.4-teward-desktop-armhf-raspberry-pi-2.img
[17:42] <phillw> about that size :P
[17:43] <teward> phillw: ls -alh :p
[17:43] <teward> phillw: 16.04, not 15.10
[17:44] <phillw> -rw-rw-r--  1 phillw       phillw 3.7G Apr 17 17:18 lubuntu-16.04-rc-desktop-armhf-raspberry-pi.img
[17:44] <phillw> same sort of size :)
[17:44] <teward> eheheheh, i hear the MATE are oversized by at least double
[17:44] <teward> at least they're all OK this time round with /lib perms
[17:45] <phillw> haven't down loaded theirs yet... I still only have the RC one here for lubuntu
[17:45] <teward> hm
[17:45] <phillw> that's most odd, as Martin stripped stuff out of the 16.04 image.
[17:46] <phillw> I've another VM to set up, but I'll drag the images in as a background task
[20:07] <tsimonq2> wxl: I'll run through the suite of Alternate tests
[20:07] <wxl> thank you sir :)
[20:08] <wxl> i haven't looked. is the lxqt wiki page back to normality?
[20:08] <tsimonq2> how so?
[20:09] <tsimonq2> wxl: what do you consider normal? XD
[20:09] <wxl> maybe sensible would be more appropriate :)
[20:09] <wxl> i see no reason to jettison mention of your ppa. hopefully it's now to the point that its utility is adequately explained, as well as the risk in using daily ppa's.
[20:10] <tsimonq2> I'l ltake a look after I zsync the Lubuntu images ;)
[20:10] <wxl> tsimonq2: well, let me know if you need further help from me
[20:10] <tsimonq2> alright
[20:19] <ianorlin> although I probably should start thinking about lxqt testcases
[20:19] <ianorlin> although lxqt-config as one testcase would be really really long
[20:19] <tsimonq2> ianorlin: yes, I can help, let's coordinate
[20:20] <wxl> +1
[20:20] <tsimonq2> can we both work together to shoot to have them all done for Alpha 1?
[20:20] <wxl> my two favorite testcase writers, together. :)
[20:20] <tsimonq2> and wxl if you wish :P
[20:20] <wxl> you guys coordinate with me as needed for reviews/merges
[20:20] <tsimonq2> alright
[20:21] <tsimonq2> ianorlin: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YakketyYak/ReleaseSchedule
[20:21] <wxl> although i'm sure flocculant and.. whoever took/is going to take balloon's place.. will review too
[20:21] <tsimonq2> Alpha 1 is June 30
[20:21] <tsimonq2> wxl: yes probably flocculant :P
[20:21] <wxl> i doubt it
[20:21] <wxl> but i'd be really happy if it was him
[20:22] <tsimonq2> ianorlin: we have roughly two months. I think that's enough time to get these handled?
[20:24] <ianorlin> yes
[20:24] <tsimonq2> ianorlin: is there a time we can meet to look these over? I'm a little busy at the moment and I'd like a time to know that you are online
[20:24] <tsimonq2> so we can decide what needs to be done
[20:24] <tsimonq2> wxl: and when we are done, somehow, some way, you should regenerate the package testcase results for Lubuntu
[20:25] <wxl> i'll figure it out when we get there
[20:26] <tsimonq2> cool :)
[20:26] <wxl> that's the kind of problem i like to have :)
[20:26] <tsimonq2> awesome XD
[20:29] <tsimonq2> ianorlin: can we agree to specify wxl as a reviewer for MPs when we propose them?
[20:29] <tsimonq2> wxl: or do you not want that? :P
[20:30] <wxl> that's fine tsimonq2
[20:31] <tsimonq2> awesome wxl
[20:37] <ianorlin> Time I know will be online is a bit hard maybe wednesday at 20:00 UTC?
[20:38] <tsimonq2> earliest I can go is 20:10, is that good for you?
[20:45] <ianorlin> yes
[20:45] <Kiwikaki> Heyho. I just wanna let you know that I'm not able to use the desktop in live session, because of a graphical glitch (lubuntu todays daily, i386, virtualbox)
[20:45] <Kiwikaki> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/1574831
[20:46] <tsimonq2> ianorlin: awesome, see you then :)
[20:46] <tsimonq2> Kiwikaki: thank you, I'll try it out :)
[20:46] <tsimonq2> ianorlin: do you use VBox or KVM?
[20:46] <Kiwikaki> ok, tsimonq2 :)
[20:47] <tsimonq2> Kamilion: do you mind checking bug 1574831 in VMWare please? :)
[20:49] <phillw> Kiwikaki: there are mutterings about intel graphics... I know someone has resolved it, but am awaiting them to say how...
[20:55] <Kiwikaki> phillw: ok
[20:57] <phillw> Kiwikaki: if you're not running on intel graphics, that particular bug would not affect you.
[20:58] <tsimonq2> phillw: how do you suppose that?
[20:58] <Kiwikaki> VirtualBox runs on a Mac mini, so yeah, it's Intel graphics. But the amd64 build runs fine with no errors..
[20:59] <tsimonq2> Kiwikaki: and this is Yakkety?
[20:59] <phillw> only shows on intel graphics systems, not showing on the other 'main line' GPUs
[20:59] <Kiwikaki> tsimonq2: yep
[20:59] <tsimonq2> Kiwikaki: can you try with a 16.04 image please?
[20:59] <Kiwikaki> tsimonq2: ok
[21:03] <Kiwikaki> tsimonq2: 2 tests: 1 passed, 1 failed
[21:03] <tsimonq2> Kiwikaki: hm?
[21:04] <Kiwikaki> I tested it two times now . the first test had no errors, the second has the exact same graphical glitch
[21:05] <Kiwikaki> 16.04 i386
[21:05] <tsimonq2> then what's the difference?
[21:05] <tsimonq2> aren't they the same exact images?
[21:05] <tsimonq2> what did you do different?
[21:06] <Kiwikaki> nothing.
[21:07] <tsimonq2> mind giving it one more try?
[21:07] <Kiwikaki> ok
[21:08] <Kiwikaki> no errors
[21:08] <tsimonq2> hmm, what's the earliest Xenial image you can grab?
[21:09] <Kiwikaki> On my hard disk? the final release. :D
[21:10] <tsimonq2> no, from he server :)
[21:13] <phillw> I have -rw-------. 1 nio nio 739246080 Mar  4 16:32 /home/nio/linux-tools/alpha-beta/xenial-alternate-amd64-2016-03-04.iso
[21:13] <phillw> that's about as far back as I can go
[21:13] <Kiwikaki> I have no idea where I can find older releases than the final. On cdimage.ubuntu.com are only newer ones
[21:14] <tsimonq2> Kiwikaki: then can you gran a 15.10 image and try please?
[21:14] <tsimonq2> *grab
[21:14] <Kiwikaki> yep
[21:15] <phillw> wxl: this next cycle, I'll start keeping the milestones. I stopped because no one ever asked for them!!! typical :P
[21:17] <Kiwikaki> tsimonq2: I tested it three times, no errors
[21:20] <Kiwikaki> It's time to go to bed. goodnight :)
[21:20] <phillw> tc Kiwikaki
[22:48] <teward> so, your site's out of date
[23:03] <tsimonq2> wxl: I was able to confirm the following bugs personally in today's Yakkety image: bug 1484785 bug 1516454 bug 1445818 bug 1522625 after taking it from the Xenial release notes
[23:05] <tsimonq2> wxl: bug 1445818 and bug 1445818 are the same thing, linked twice on the release notes, permission to remove the second one?
[23:05] <wxl> same is the same so yes :)
[23:06] <tsimonq2> hah alright :)
[23:09] <tsimonq2> wxl: I commented on the bug report, but bug 1444682 cannot be confirmed or denied in the daily Yakkety image because it fails with the same error that you get when you try to add a PPA, I tracked down infinity yesterday and told him about it, a fix is in yakkety-proposed waiting for the automatic migration tests to make it into yakkety. But tl;dr, can't test it until python-apt is fixed.
[23:09] <wxl> kk