| pitti | Good morning | 06:36 |
|---|---|---|
| hikiko | hello! :p | 06:40 |
| qengho | hihi | 06:46 |
| FJKong_ | hihihi | 06:46 |
| Sweet5hark | hohoho | 06:47 |
| hikiko | test | 06:47 |
| seb128 | good morning desktopers | 06:51 |
| happyaron | morning | 06:52 |
| pitti | yak shaving yet? :-) | 06:52 |
| willcooke | morning desktoppers | 07:01 |
| Trevinho | morning! | 07:02 |
| Sweet5hark | seb128: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/1574285 | 07:03 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1574285 in libreoffice (Ubuntu) "dpkg-maintscript-helper: prepare_dir_to_symlink can never succeed" [Undecided,New] | 07:03 |
| dholbach | seb128, is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libqmi/+bug/1562957 something the desktop team would look at or would that be cyphermox or somebody else? | 07:05 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1562957 in libqmi (Ubuntu) "Sync libqmi 1.14.0-2 (main) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Incomplete] | 07:05 |
| seb128 | attente, is that InstallFile? | 07:12 |
| desrt | hi willcooke :D | 07:13 |
| willcooke | desrt, hihi | 07:13 |
| seb128 | attente, unping | 07:13 |
| seb128 | Sweet5hark, thanks | 07:13 |
| desrt | seb128: irc doesn't work this way :) | 07:13 |
| seb128 | Trevinho, morning! italians, always late! | 07:13 |
| seb128 | desrt, it should! | 07:13 |
| seb128 | dholbach, no idea, I don't even know what libqmi is | 07:14 |
| seb128 | dholbach, sorry at a sprint and we are getting started, don't have a lot of focus for IRC | 07:14 |
| dholbach | seb128, it seems to have to do with {network,modem}manager | 07:14 |
| seb128 | try cyphermox | 07:14 |
| Trevinho | seb128: to get your love :) | 07:14 |
| dholbach | seb128, understood, no worries - have a good time at the sprint | 07:14 |
| seb128 | I can put on my list for next week | 07:14 |
| seb128 | thanks! | 07:14 |
| dholbach | seb128, my ping above included Mathieu, so maybe he'll pick it up later on :) | 07:15 |
| seb128 | yeah | 07:15 |
| seb128 | attente, Laney, | 07:19 |
| seb128 | method call time=1461568730.237483 sender=:1.158 -> destination=org.debian.apt serial=37 path=/org/debian/apt; interface=org.debian.apt; member=InstallFile | 07:19 |
| seb128 | string "ubuntu-xenial-main" | 07:19 |
| seb128 | boolean true | 07:19 |
| pitti | hey desrt, what an unusual hour for you -- are you in Europe again? | 07:24 |
| desrt | yes. we're sprinting in prague | 07:24 |
| desrt | desktop team plus shell/designers | 07:24 |
| pitti | ah, lovely | 07:24 |
| desrt | this is why i was in your country for my 'visit' yesterday ;) | 07:24 |
| pitti | transit zone doesn't even legally count as "in the country", does it? :-) | 07:25 |
| desrt | i went through FRA | 07:29 |
| seb128 | Laney, attente, robert_ancell, not good enough, "error-unreadable-package-file: gnome-calculator" ... it gets the source name not the full pathname, which I guess is what it needs | 07:35 |
| robert_ancell | yeah, duh | 07:35 |
| seb128 | :-) | 07:35 |
| larsu | good morning and have a nice sprint! | 07:36 |
| desrt | larsu: thanks :D | 07:36 |
| seb128 | hey larsu, we miss you here! | 07:48 |
| larsu | seb128: I miss you too! Thought about coming down for a day, but have quite a lot of work to do this week | 07:54 |
| seb128 | larsu, good luck with the work, maybe next time! we are going to drink a beer for you | 07:54 |
| larsu | seb128: I know you will ;) Enjoy Prague! | 07:59 |
| seb128 | larsu, thanks! | 07:59 |
| dholbach | are you going to look at the appstream stuff in the sponsoring queue at the sprint? | 08:01 |
| seb128 | Sweet5hark, do you know if the dpkg-maintscript-helper bug has steps to trigger it? or do we just reports? | 08:02 |
| Sweet5hark | havent tried to reproduce yet -- so far all I have is those reports ... | 08:09 |
| Sweet5hark | seb128: I see they all seem 14.04LTS->16.04LTS updates though | 08:10 |
| seb128 | pitti, ^ | 08:10 |
| willcooke | robert_ancell, https://trello.com/b/hY6fCqbx/convergence-topics | 08:14 |
| Laney | hai | 08:46 |
| pitti | hey Laney, how are you meeowing today? | 08:51 |
| Laney | hey pitti! | 08:53 |
| Laney | we're meowing from prague | 08:53 |
| chrisccoulson | how's prague? | 08:59 |
| seb128 | Laney, pitti, do you know about "update-rc.d ... remove" erroring out with "... exists during rc.d purge"? I've a friend who had his trusty to xenial update failing because ppp.preinst hit that one | 09:00 |
| pitti | seb128: that doesn't ring a bell with me, sorry | 09:00 |
| seb128 | the pppd-dns one if that case | 09:00 |
| pitti | what exists during rc.d purge? | 09:00 |
| seb128 | the ppp.preinst errored out with "pppd-dns exists during rc.d purg" which seems to be the preinst call to "update-rc.d pppd-dns remove" | 09:01 |
| seb128 | I don't really understand what the errors means though | 09:01 |
| Laney | sorry | 09:02 |
| Laney | try slangasek? | 09:02 |
| seb128 | yeah, a bit early for him | 09:02 |
| seb128 | I'm going to watch out for other reports | 09:02 |
| seb128 | it's possible that my friend deleted some conffile or something | 09:03 |
| Sweet5hark | Laney, pitti: https://twitter.com/TheLadBible/status/723859679479250944 | 09:03 |
| seb128 | the system is like several LTS cycles old with quite some custom changes and upgrades | 09:03 |
| seb128 | easier workaround would be to not fail the preinst on errors from that call, unsure if that would be right though | 09:04 |
| Laney | Sweet5hark: HEAVEN | 09:04 |
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| pitti | Sweet5hark: *grin* | 09:05 |
| * seb128 reads recent launchpad bugs, quite boring | 09:13 | |
| seb128 | not fun bugs reports in that LTS? | 09:13 |
| pitti | oh, there are; I'm getting tons of duplicates on upgrade failures :/ | 09:17 |
| seb128 | oh? :-( | 09:21 |
| seb128 | some common issues? | 09:21 |
| seb128 | like one bug we can fix to address most? | 09:21 |
| pitti | bug 1560797 in my world mostly | 09:21 |
| ubot5 | bug 1560797 in apt (Ubuntu Wily) "apt does not configure Pre-Depends: before depending package" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1560797 | 09:21 |
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| pitti | we SRUed the fix to trusty and wily, but so far most people don't update their trusty/wily before dist-upgrading to xenial :/ | 09:22 |
| seb128 | isn't the dist-upgrader supposed to make you do that? | 09:22 |
| seb128 | like ask you to apply SRUs before upgrading? | 09:22 |
| pitti | I thought it would upgrade to the new apt first | 09:22 |
| pitti | (which would work as well) | 09:22 |
| pitti | but not sure why that happens so often still | 09:22 |
| seb128 | people upgrading manually? | 09:22 |
| pitti | well, I got maybe 10 or 15 reports after the release | 09:23 |
| pitti | if several thousand upgraded, that would still count as "few" I guess | 09:23 |
| pitti | yeah, could be manual apt-get dist-upgrade | 09:23 |
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| hikiko | Trevinho, https://code.launchpad.net/~hikiko/compiz/compiz.trusty-1442728/+merge/292773 I hope it's fine | 09:39 |
| xnox | seb128, pitti - upgrading apt alone, results in a cycle, with a pre-depends which old apt fails to handle. Hence the bug. | 10:05 |
| xnox | the best we can do, is SRU a fix to all old apts that we can. | 10:06 |
| xnox | and hope people upgrade to latest updates, before upgrading further up. | 10:06 |
| xnox | which we have now. | 10:06 |
| xnox | does dist-upgrader upgrade people to -updates first, then upgrade apt, then upgrade to next series? | 10:06 |
| pitti | xnox: we already SRUed it with fast-tracking last week | 10:07 |
| xnox | right. so that's the best we can do. and wait for everyones mirrors to catch up | 10:07 |
| xnox | and upgrades =/ | 10:07 |
| pitti | RAOF: are you going to merge colord soon, or want me to? I'm merging gnome-color-manager, and the new version needs a new colord | 10:51 |
| Sweet5hark | ajar JarJar in a jar in an ajar jar: https://plus.google.com/+KristianK%C3%B6hntopp/posts/MXUmooUdtq2?pid=6277259845447416050&oid=102280518215937463274&authkey=CJOjheLDyPWX-gE | 11:27 |
| pitti | Sweet5hark: hah, brilliant! | 11:35 |
| Sweet5hark | pitti: as a bonus, it was required to chop JarJars head off for the illustration. | 11:36 |
| Sweet5hark | JarJar makes me channel my inner Red Queen. | 11:37 |
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| qengho | Sweet5hark: Austria 20160425 NEVER FORGET | 12:37 |
| davmor2 | Sweet5hark: see now the question is why they didn't do Ajar jarjar in an ajar jar in an ajar jar and keep it recursive ;) | 12:58 |
| Sweet5hark | davmor2: to break the rhythm I assume. rhythm makes it to easy. | 13:02 |
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| davmor2 | Sweet5hark: :) | 13:03 |
| davmor2 | Sweet5hark: I'll stick with the classics like She sells see shell from the seashore if she sells sea shells from the seashore she'll sell sea shells forever more | 13:04 |
| * Sweet5hark rides off on a buffalo buffalo. | 13:05 | |
| flocculant | sea shells | 13:05 |
| flocculant | just saying ... | 13:05 |
| davmor2 | flocculant: meh dyslexic if I get it so you can read it I'm happy | 13:06 |
| flocculant | davmor2: well in that case - I can read it :) | 13:06 |
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| davmor2 | flocculant: I actually worte it as seashells but it didn't look right | 13:07 |
| flocculant | :) | 13:07 |
| davmor2 | wrote even | 13:08 |
| hyperair | where does gnome-software in xenial get its appdata information from? | 13:27 |
| Laney | archive.ubuntu.com | 13:29 |
| kgunn | hikiko: wanna join kpi? | 13:34 |
| hyperair | Laney: um where exactly? | 13:35 |
| Laney | hyperair: /ubuntu/dists/suite/dep11/ | 13:35 |
| Laney | /suite/comopnent/dep11/ | 13:36 |
| hikiko | kgunn, I am in the sprint in Prague, I m going to find a quiet place and join you in a few minutes | 13:36 |
| hyperair | Laney: oh. i thought the appstream stuff was separate from dep11 | 13:36 |
| hyperair | Laney: so how do i debug why something's missing from the dep11 dump? | 13:38 |
| Laney | hyperair: look on http://appstream.ubuntu.com usually | 13:40 |
| davmor2 | hyperair: http://mhall119.com/2016/03/help-make-gnome-software-beautiful/ | 13:40 |
| hyperair | ah, thanks | 13:40 |
| kgunn | hikiko: oops forgot...np | 13:44 |
| davmor2 | hyperair: was my link to mhall119 useful I hope so :) It's just so I can pass it on in future if it was :) | 13:56 |
| Laney | depends if the problem is an icon or not :) | 13:59 |
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| hyperair | davmor2: well, somewhat, but i found what i needed from laney's link | 14:51 |
| hyperair | and yes it was an icon | 14:51 |
| hyperair | i placed it in the wrong place | 14:51 |
| hyperair | /usr/share/icons/hicolor/256x256 instead of /usr/share/icons/hicolor/256x256/apps | 14:52 |
| trmsu | you should be able to SRU that if you want | 14:52 |
| trmsu | haha I forgot I change my nick | 14:52 |
| trmsu | changed | 14:52 |
| hyperair | ..wut | 14:53 |
| ximion | Laney: you need to set the dataPriority flag for AppStream metadata in the -updates, -backport, etc. suites to someting >> 0 | 15:04 |
| ximion | otherwise the new data won't override the old one | 15:04 |
| trmsu | ok | 15:05 |
| hyperair | ximion: um how do you set that? | 15:10 |
| desrt | trmsu: mmm | 15:15 |
| ximion | hyperair: on the server, set the "dataPriority" property for the target suite in dep11-config.yml | 15:16 |
| desrt | trmsu: i will eat you | 15:16 |
| trmsu | eat my beans | 15:16 |
| desrt | *pin drop* | 15:16 |
| ximion | no giraffes, but tiramisu ;-) | 15:17 |
| trmsu | ximion: what's the right relative priority for backports? | 15:18 |
| trmsu | proposed < updates < backports? | 15:18 |
| ximion | jup, I think that makes sense | 15:21 |
| trmsu | < updates < security < backports | 15:21 |
| trmsu | actually proposed should be higher than updates | 15:22 |
| trmsu | release < updates < security < proposed < backports | 15:22 |
| trmsu | probably | 15:22 |
| ximion | right, proposed beats security and updates | 15:23 |
| trmsu | ximion: ok, will be there next time | 15:35 |
| ximion | :-) | 15:35 |
| ximion | if we had versions in AppStream data, we could resolve conflicts by version comparisons... | 15:36 |
| ximion | but that's likely not a great idea | 15:36 |
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| davmor2 | wllck: I see you've gone all hip and textspeak and dropped all the vowel from your nick nice ;) | 15:44 |
| wllck | wrd | 15:44 |
| seb128 | Laney, attente, robert_ancell, the appstream: handler does | 15:47 |
| seb128 | g_action_group_activate_action (G_ACTION_GROUP (app), | 15:47 |
| seb128 | "details", | 15:47 |
| seb128 | g_variant_new ("(ss)", path, "")); | 15:47 |
| seb128 | that's can't be done I guess since g-s doesn't know about non desktop binaries | 15:57 |
| hyperair | ximion: um i guess i'll have to ping someone for that? | 16:42 |
| ximion | hyperair: not just someone ^^ Laney can do it | 16:43 |
| ximion | or better: has done it ^^ | 16:43 |
| hyperair | ah | 16:44 |
| hyperair | naise | 16:44 |
| hyperair | guess i'll SRU the change | 16:44 |
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| muktupavels_ | Trevinho: https://bugs.launchpad.net/compiz/+bug/1574866 | 21:47 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1574866 in Compiz "Compiz does not paint background" [Undecided,New] | 21:47 |
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