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| skilo | not sure if there is an official forum for ubuntu gnome but just wanted to say there is a bug in gvd smb browse process using 50% of the cpu in 16.04 | 03:05 |
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| Anon95 | I've got Ubuntu 15.10 and I tried another way of installing the proprietary AMD GPU drivers. It failed and now I can't get a proper GUI working. I tried purging fglrx, but that didn't work this time. Since 16.04 doesn't support those proprietary drivers, I'd like to upgrade to 16.04. How can I do that from the Recovery environment? | 04:21 |
| darkxst | Anon95, I think just reinstalling xserver-xorg-core is enough | 04:22 |
| darkxst | 16.04 supports AMDGPU | 04:22 |
| darkxst | and there is a beta/preview of the new AMD drivers, but not sure they have been packaged yet | 04:23 |
| Anon95 | Yeah, but isn't AMDGPU an opensource version that isn't as good as the proprietary version - at least, for now. | 04:26 |
| Anon95 | Is it possible to upgrade from 15.10 to 16.04 using a live install from a USB drive? | 04:31 |
| darkxst | Anon95, they just released a bet of the proprietry drivers that runs on AMDGPU | 04:42 |
| darkxst | s/bet/beta/ | 04:42 |
| darkxst | http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/AMDGPU-PRO-Beta-Driver-for-Vulkan-Release-Notes.aspx | 04:43 |
| darkxst | I think you can run an upgrade from the live USB, never tried that way myself though | 04:44 |
| Anon95 | Yeah, that's what I'm trying to find out right now. | 04:44 |
| darkxst | http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/351/builds/117531/testcases/1498/results | 04:45 |
| Anon95 | Oh neat. I'm going to test it out and then report back whether it works or not. | 04:48 |
| x-Na_ | Hi guys | 06:49 |
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| x-Na | I'm having this same problem -> https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/48772 | 06:52 |
| x-Na | With the gnome3-team gnome and staging packages | 06:52 |
| x-Na | I can switch back to my gnome session by changing the VT | 06:53 |
| x-Na | But it seems that GDM might crash from the background as user switching doesn't work after that | 06:53 |
| darkxst | x-Na, file a bug, are there any crash logs from gdm? | 07:19 |
| darkxst | hey robert_ancell | 07:34 |
| darkxst | installing external debs (like chrome, slack etc) in gnome-software doesnt work? | 07:35 |
| ricotz | darkxst, hmm, https://projects.archlinux.org/svntogit/packages.git/commit/trunk?h=packages/gnome-shell&id=0e925c62bae1e4427bfe021e622f1e8fcb12eecd | 08:08 |
| darkxst | ricotz, can you email me that patch link? also why isnt it upstream? | 08:27 |
| darkxst | (my laptop just fried itself ;( ) | 08:27 |
| ricotz | darkxst, it seems it wasn't forwarded either :\ (can't find a bug with it) | 08:28 |
| ricotz | assuming this patch is legit and not superseeded already | 08:28 |
| ricotz | aka https://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-shell/commit/?id=8416ba25de3797c1fdfd49b2a598f3e380713129 | 08:29 |
| ricotz | there are other cogl related fixes in master too | 08:30 |
| darkxst | ok, can't look now, about to head out for dinner | 08:31 |
| ricotz | alright, maybe I pick those and the archlinux one and push it later | 08:31 |
| darkxst | ok, or otherwise email the links and I will look, I won't have logs for IRC now | 08:32 |
| ricotz | ok | 08:33 |
| ricotz | darkxst, grabbed latest git changes of gnome-shell/mutter and pushed it | 08:53 |
| ricotz | (left out the archlinux patch for now) | 08:53 |
| ricotz | x-Na, hi, would be nice if you could update and try to reproduce the problem | 09:36 |
| * ricotz can't reboot here currently | 09:36 | |
| x-Na | ricotz, update what? | 11:45 |
| x-Na | And I can file a bug report if needed | 11:46 |
| ricotz | x-Na, update your installation with the new gnome-shell/mutter packages I have pushed earlier | 11:51 |
| turtle12345 | hi, i have a little trouble with 16.04. I updatet from 14.04 to 15.10 and now to 16.04. My xserver is not coming up and gdm3 too. | 11:52 |
| turtle12345 | I purged Xorg and gdm3. Deaktivated modeset but nothing starts. X -configure ends up in a segmentation fault at 0x0 | 11:54 |
| turtle12345 | any suggestions? | 11:54 |
| ricotz | turtle12345, upgrading from 14.04 to 15.10 is not supported | 12:01 |
| ricotz | removing X and gdm is not a good idea at all | 12:01 |
| ricotz | so no wonder you ran into trouble | 12:02 |
| mgedmin | what do you mean "not supported"? since 15.04 is EOL, the upgrade paths are 14.04 -> 15.10 or 14.04 -> 16.04 | 12:02 |
| ricotz | try to confirm your upgrade to 16.04 was finished completely | 12:02 |
| ricotz | only 14.04 -> 16.04! | 12:02 |
| mgedmin | (except 14.04 -> 16.04 won't be suggested to users until 16.04.1 is out) | 12:03 |
| ricotz | right! | 12:03 |
| mgedmin | or am I mistaken in assuming that all ubuntu flavours have the same supported upgrade paths? | 12:03 |
| ricotz | you will run into upgrade troubles when using lts-backport | 12:03 |
| ricotz | only lts to lts is support or you upgrade consistently with every release | 12:04 |
| x-Na | ricotz, sure | 12:04 |
| turtle12345 | i reinstalled them. and reconfigured | 12:04 |
| ricotz | turtle12345, "sudo apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-gnome-desktop" | 12:05 |
| ricotz | this should pick up the needed things | 12:05 |
| ricotz | although if you fiddled with modprobe/grub configs you need to fix it yourself | 12:06 |
| turtle12345 | yeah i reinstalled ubuntu-gnome-desktop to. all packages seem uptodate | 12:07 |
| turtle12345 | https://www.computersnyou.com/4945/re-install-xorg-xserver-completely-ubuntu/ | 12:09 |
| turtle12345 | this is what i did | 12:09 |
| ricotz | turtle12345, hmm :\, what was the reason to follow this? | 12:10 |
| ricotz | did you actually install lightdm and ubuntu-desktop? | 12:11 |
| turtle12345 | no | 12:12 |
| ricotz | if you are not using any proprietary graphics-driver then do not disable modeset | 12:12 |
| turtle12345 | the raeson was xserver was not starting and gdm3 failed too | 12:12 |
| turtle12345 | i know but. since xserver was not coming up i purged nvida drivers and tried to reset xserv | 12:15 |
| turtle12345 | so i got an empty login screen | 12:16 |
| ricotz | so nvidia, how did you install and purged them? | 12:17 |
| turtle12345 | they were running under 14.04. istalled by gui i guess. i used apt-get purge nvidia* | 12:18 |
| ricotz | (you need to pick the proper nvidia version for your graphics cards too if it is an older one) | 12:18 |
| turtle12345 | with modeset on X says no device to configure. Configuration Failed. | 12:19 |
| ricotz | likely some leftover "nouveau" blacklisting | 12:20 |
| ricotz | or a present xorg.conf which broken and not needed | 12:21 |
| turtle12345 | nope i allready switched to failsafe | 12:21 |
| turtle12345 | how do i fix the nouveau thing maybe? | 12:22 |
| ricotz | "lsmod | grep nouveau"? | 12:22 |
| ricotz | grep nouveau /etc/modprobe.d/* | 12:23 |
| turtle12345 | both returns nothing | 12:23 |
| ricotz | "lsmod | grep nvidia"? | 12:24 |
| turtle12345 | nothing too | 12:24 |
| turtle12345 | but nvidiafb is on framebuffer blacklist | 12:25 |
| ricotz | dmesg | grep drm | 12:25 |
| turtle12345 | switching to radeondrmfb from Vesa VGA. fbcon: radeondrmfb fb0 is primary device | 12:28 |
| turtle12345 | initialized on mirror 0 | 12:28 |
| ricotz | huh? | 12:29 |
| ricotz | you had nvidia blob install but have a amd card? | 12:29 |
| ricotz | "lsmod | grep radeon"? | 12:29 |
| turtle12345 | its a laptop with onboard and nvidia card | 12:30 |
| ricotz | lspci | grep -i nvidia | 12:30 |
| ricotz | so you are in the nvidia optimus trap | 12:31 |
| turtle12345 | ls mod says radeon drm | 12:31 |
| turtle12345 | lspci nvdia returns nothing | 12:32 |
| ricotz | so you dont have a nvidia card | 12:32 |
| ricotz | or you disabled it in the bios? | 12:32 |
| turtle12345 | i can check. but whatever card is there xserv is not starting at all | 12:34 |
| ricotz | if you have a separate home partition, you could also consider a fresh reinstall with a 16.04 iso | 12:34 |
| ricotz | it can't start if there is not proper display driver active | 12:34 |
| turtle12345 | i considered that too. yeah | 12:35 |
| ricotz | "uname -a"? | 12:35 |
| ricotz | (was the kernel updated) | 12:35 |
| turtle12345 | 4.4.0-21 | 12:36 |
| turtle12345 | how do i tell x to use the right driver or to autoconfig? | 12:37 |
| ricotz | "lspci | grep -i vga"? | 12:37 |
| ricotz | if you have xserver-xorg-video-all installed the needed x11 driver should be there | 12:38 |
| turtle12345 | amd ati mobility radeon 4330/4350/4550 | 12:38 |
| ricotz | still if the kernel/drm is failing then that is your problem | 12:38 |
| ricotz | see...! | 12:38 |
| ricotz | sorry, bbl | 12:39 |
| turtle12345 | i dont get it? | 12:39 |
| mgedmin | do you still have 'nomodeset' in /proc/cmdline ? | 12:40 |
| turtle12345 | nope | 12:40 |
| mgedmin | hm | 12:42 |
| mgedmin | ok, gdm3 doesn't actually use X -- it uses wayland | 12:42 |
| turtle12345 | as gdm3 crashed it said somerhing. like x is not answering | 12:43 |
| mgedmin | where does gdm put its logs nowadays? | 12:45 |
| mgedmin | I've a /var/log/gdm/, full of logs from 2015, and a /var/log/gdm3/, which is empty | 12:45 |
| mgedmin | journalctl, I suppose | 12:45 |
| ricotz | journalctl -xb | grep gdm | 12:45 |
| ricotz | mgedmin, "WaylandEnable=false" should be in /etc/gdm3/custom.conf | 12:46 |
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| turtle12345 | gdm debug says runnig x-session, prime:1 not found. Prime Default runs and exits with status 0 session exited with status 127 | 12:49 |
| turtle12345 | maximum number of X display failiures reached: check x seever log for errors | 12:52 |
| turtle12345 | okay. is there a way to reinstall ubuntu from the comand line or should i take a live usb version | 12:57 |
| turtle12345 | home is encrypted and on a separete partition | 12:58 |
| ricotz | turtle12345, is nvidia-prime or bumblebee still installed? | 13:03 |
| turtle12345 | no | 13:04 |
| mgedmin | "reinstalling from the command line" is mostly (a) making sure you have the right packages installed ('sudo apt install ubuntu-gnome-desktop^' should do that; the ^ tells apt to install the task rather than just the metapackage) | 13:11 |
| mgedmin | (b) making sure you don't have the wrong packages installed (where "wrong packages" are those that divert certain files, e.g. how nvidia's proprietary drivers replace the system libGL) | 13:11 |
| turtle12345 | okay | 13:12 |
| mgedmin | and (c) making sure configuration files haven't been changed in detrimental ways | 13:12 |
| mgedmin | (a) is easy | 13:12 |
| mgedmin | (b) is harder -- I wouldn't know where to start! | 13:12 |
| turtle12345 | i take the live usb variante | 13:12 |
| mgedmin | (c) is somewhere in the middle | 13:12 |
| mgedmin | you can apt install debsums | 13:12 |
| mgedmin | and then run debsums -ec to have it list all changed configuration files | 13:13 |
| mgedmin | then look for suspicious ones (e.g. anything to do with X or gdm) | 13:13 |
| turtle12345 | okay | 13:14 |
| mgedmin | bascially, it can be done if you understand what you're doing | 13:14 |
| mgedmin | so yeah, reinstalling from livecd would be simpler (and probably quicker) | 13:14 |
| turtle12345 | is there a way to protect /home from changes but use it /home? | 13:16 |
| mgedmin | as far as I know, if you don't tell the installer to format the partition, /home will be preserved | 13:16 |
| mgedmin | i.e. choose manual partitioning, select the current set of partitions, be sure to uncheck whatever 'format' checkboxes there are | 13:17 |
| mgedmin | now I haven't ever done this myself | 13:17 |
| mgedmin | and it's always a good idea to be sure you have a good backup | 13:17 |
| turtle12345 | okay ty. i do a backup of /home and run the install | 13:18 |
| x-Na | ricotz, haven't seen the issue yet, but now it seems that everytime I press 's' it turns on the on screen keyboard (shortcut is marked as disabled) :D | 14:25 |
| x-Na | Happens on every user, so it's not user specific. And pressing 's' on vt it works | 14:26 |
| x-Na | If I purge gnome3 and gnome3-staging that behaviour is gone and if I readd them it comes back, but now it zoomed with just pressing 'p' | 14:57 |
| ricotz | x-Na, hmm, that is bad of course | 15:02 |
| ricotz | seems to be a fallout of https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=748526 | 15:03 |
| ubot5 | Gnome bug 748526 in wayland "wayland: cannot set Super in keyboard shortcuts" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] | 15:03 |
| x-Na | ricotz, but disabling shortcuts does not help in this case... | 15:40 |
| x-Na | I mean if I disable the shortcuts it still thinks Super + S is the shortcut... | 15:41 |
| ricotz | x-Na, https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=758076 was the problem | 16:01 |
| ubot5 | Gnome bug 758076 in wayland "Moving/resizing windows with keyboard does not work on wayland" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] | 16:01 |
| ricotz | mutter in ppa is working again | 16:02 |
| x-Na | ricotz, did you update it? | 16:28 |
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| ricotz | x-Na, yes | 16:59 |
| bara10 | hello guys, i am new on ubuntu gnome, and i wan to get involved, but i don't how to start, can anybody help me? | 17:01 |
| x-Na | ricotz, OK, I'll give it a try | 17:23 |
| x-Na | ricotz, and it seems to work, thank you | 17:28 |
| x-Na | But the sudden VT change still happens | 17:33 |
| ericwill | hello, does Ubuntu support a dark variant of Ambiance, (similar to Adwaita-dark, for upstream GTK)? | 19:02 |
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