[03:05] <skilo> not sure if there is an official forum for ubuntu gnome but just wanted to say there is a bug in gvd smb browse process using 50% of the cpu in 16.04
[04:21] <Anon95> I've got Ubuntu 15.10 and I tried another way of installing the proprietary AMD GPU drivers. It failed and now I can't get a proper GUI working. I tried purging fglrx, but that didn't work this time. Since 16.04 doesn't support those proprietary drivers, I'd like to upgrade to 16.04. How can I do that from the Recovery environment?
[04:22] <darkxst> Anon95, I think just reinstalling xserver-xorg-core is enough
[04:22] <darkxst> 16.04 supports AMDGPU
[04:23] <darkxst> and there is a beta/preview of the new AMD drivers, but not sure they have been packaged yet
[04:26] <Anon95> Yeah, but isn't AMDGPU an opensource version that isn't as good as the proprietary version - at least, for now.
[04:31] <Anon95> Is it possible to upgrade from 15.10 to 16.04 using a live install from a USB drive?
[04:42] <darkxst> Anon95, they just released a bet of the proprietry drivers that runs on AMDGPU
[04:42] <darkxst> s/bet/beta/
[04:43] <darkxst> http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/AMDGPU-PRO-Beta-Driver-for-Vulkan-Release-Notes.aspx
[04:44] <darkxst> I think you can run an upgrade from the live USB, never tried that way myself though
[04:44] <Anon95> Yeah, that's what I'm trying to find out right now.
[04:45] <darkxst> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/351/builds/117531/testcases/1498/results
[04:48] <Anon95> Oh neat. I'm going to test it out and then report back whether it works or not.
[06:49] <x-Na_> Hi guys
[06:52] <x-Na> I'm having this same problem -> https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/48772
[06:52] <x-Na> With the gnome3-team gnome and staging packages
[06:53] <x-Na> I can switch back to my gnome session by changing the VT
[06:53] <x-Na> But it seems that GDM might crash from the background as user switching doesn't work after that
[07:19] <darkxst> x-Na, file a bug, are there any crash logs from gdm?
[07:34] <darkxst> hey robert_ancell
[07:35] <darkxst> installing external debs (like chrome, slack etc) in gnome-software doesnt work?
[08:08] <ricotz> darkxst, hmm, https://projects.archlinux.org/svntogit/packages.git/commit/trunk?h=packages/gnome-shell&id=0e925c62bae1e4427bfe021e622f1e8fcb12eecd
[08:27] <darkxst> ricotz, can you email me that patch link? also why isnt it upstream?
[08:27] <darkxst> (my laptop just fried itself ;( )
[08:28] <ricotz> darkxst, it seems it wasn't forwarded either :\ (can't find a bug with it)
[08:28] <ricotz> assuming this patch is legit and not superseeded already
[08:29] <ricotz> aka https://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-shell/commit/?id=8416ba25de3797c1fdfd49b2a598f3e380713129
[08:30] <ricotz> there are other cogl related fixes in master too
[08:31] <darkxst> ok, can't look now, about to head out for dinner
[08:31] <ricotz> alright, maybe I pick those and the archlinux one and push it later
[08:32] <darkxst> ok, or otherwise email the links and I will look, I won't have logs for IRC now
[08:33] <ricotz> ok
[08:53] <ricotz> darkxst, grabbed latest git changes of gnome-shell/mutter and pushed it
[08:53] <ricotz> (left out the archlinux patch for now)
[09:36] <ricotz> x-Na, hi, would be nice if you could update and try to reproduce the problem
[09:36]  * ricotz can't reboot here currently
[11:45] <x-Na> ricotz, update what?
[11:46] <x-Na> And I can file a bug report if needed
[11:51] <ricotz> x-Na, update your installation with the new gnome-shell/mutter packages I have pushed earlier
[11:52] <turtle12345> hi, i have a little trouble with 16.04. I updatet from 14.04 to 15.10 and now to 16.04. My xserver is not coming up and gdm3 too.
[11:54] <turtle12345> I purged Xorg and gdm3. Deaktivated modeset but nothing starts. X -configure ends up in a segmentation fault at 0x0
[11:54] <turtle12345> any suggestions?
[12:01] <ricotz> turtle12345, upgrading from 14.04 to 15.10 is not supported
[12:01] <ricotz> removing X and gdm is not a good idea at all
[12:02] <ricotz> so no wonder you ran into trouble
[12:02] <mgedmin> what do you mean "not supported"?  since 15.04 is EOL, the upgrade paths are 14.04 -> 15.10 or 14.04 -> 16.04
[12:02] <ricotz> try to confirm your upgrade to 16.04 was finished completely
[12:02] <ricotz> only 14.04 -> 16.04!
[12:03] <mgedmin> (except 14.04 -> 16.04 won't be suggested to users until 16.04.1 is out)
[12:03] <ricotz> right!
[12:03] <mgedmin> or am I mistaken in assuming that all ubuntu flavours have the same supported upgrade paths?
[12:03] <ricotz> you will run into upgrade troubles when using lts-backport
[12:04] <ricotz> only lts to lts is support or you upgrade consistently with every release
[12:04] <x-Na> ricotz, sure
[12:04] <turtle12345> i reinstalled them. and reconfigured
[12:05] <ricotz> turtle12345, "sudo apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-gnome-desktop"
[12:05] <ricotz> this should pick up the needed things
[12:06] <ricotz> although if you fiddled with modprobe/grub configs you need to fix it yourself
[12:07] <turtle12345> yeah i reinstalled ubuntu-gnome-desktop to. all packages seem uptodate
[12:09] <turtle12345> https://www.computersnyou.com/4945/re-install-xorg-xserver-completely-ubuntu/
[12:09] <turtle12345> this is what i did
[12:10] <ricotz> turtle12345, hmm :\, what was the reason to follow this?
[12:11] <ricotz> did you actually install lightdm and ubuntu-desktop?
[12:12] <turtle12345> no
[12:12] <ricotz> if you are not using any proprietary graphics-driver then do not disable modeset
[12:12] <turtle12345> the raeson was xserver was not starting and gdm3 failed too
[12:15] <turtle12345> i know but. since xserver was not coming up i purged nvida drivers and tried to reset xserv
[12:16] <turtle12345> so i got an empty login screen
[12:17] <ricotz> so nvidia, how did you install and purged them?
[12:18] <turtle12345> they were running under 14.04. istalled by gui i guess. i used apt-get purge nvidia*
[12:18] <ricotz> (you need to pick the proper nvidia version for your graphics cards too if it is an older one)
[12:19] <turtle12345> with modeset on X says no device to configure. Configuration Failed.
[12:20] <ricotz> likely some leftover "nouveau" blacklisting
[12:21] <ricotz> or a present xorg.conf which broken and not needed
[12:21] <turtle12345> nope i allready switched to failsafe
[12:22] <turtle12345> how do i fix the nouveau thing maybe?
[12:22] <ricotz> "lsmod | grep nouveau"?
[12:23] <ricotz> grep nouveau /etc/modprobe.d/*
[12:23] <turtle12345> both returns nothing
[12:24] <ricotz> "lsmod | grep nvidia"?
[12:24] <turtle12345> nothing too
[12:25] <turtle12345> but nvidiafb is on framebuffer blacklist
[12:25] <ricotz> dmesg | grep drm
[12:28] <turtle12345> switching to radeondrmfb from Vesa VGA. fbcon: radeondrmfb fb0 is primary device
[12:28] <turtle12345> initialized on mirror 0
[12:29] <ricotz> huh?
[12:29] <ricotz> you had nvidia blob install but have a amd card?
[12:29] <ricotz> "lsmod | grep radeon"?
[12:30] <turtle12345> its a laptop with onboard and nvidia card
[12:30] <ricotz> lspci | grep -i nvidia
[12:31] <ricotz> so you are in the nvidia optimus trap
[12:31] <turtle12345> ls mod says radeon drm
[12:32] <turtle12345> lspci nvdia returns nothing
[12:32] <ricotz> so you dont have a nvidia card
[12:32] <ricotz> or you disabled it in the bios?
[12:34] <turtle12345> i can check. but whatever card  is there xserv is not starting at all
[12:34] <ricotz> if you have a separate home partition, you could also consider a fresh reinstall with a 16.04 iso
[12:34] <ricotz> it can't start if there is not proper display driver active
[12:35] <turtle12345> i considered that too. yeah
[12:35] <ricotz> "uname -a"?
[12:35] <ricotz> (was the kernel updated)
[12:36] <turtle12345> 4.4.0-21
[12:37] <turtle12345> how do i tell x to use the right driver or to autoconfig?
[12:37] <ricotz> "lspci | grep -i vga"?
[12:38] <ricotz> if you have xserver-xorg-video-all installed the needed x11 driver should be there
[12:38] <turtle12345> amd ati mobility radeon 4330/4350/4550
[12:38] <ricotz> still if the kernel/drm is failing then that is your problem
[12:38] <ricotz> see...!
[12:39] <ricotz> sorry, bbl
[12:39] <turtle12345> i dont get it?
[12:40] <mgedmin> do you still have 'nomodeset' in /proc/cmdline ?
[12:40] <turtle12345> nope
[12:42] <mgedmin> hm
[12:42] <mgedmin> ok, gdm3 doesn't actually use X -- it uses wayland
[12:43] <turtle12345> as gdm3 crashed it said somerhing. like x is not answering
[12:45] <mgedmin> where does gdm put its logs nowadays?
[12:45] <mgedmin> I've a /var/log/gdm/, full of logs from 2015, and a /var/log/gdm3/, which is empty
[12:45] <mgedmin> journalctl, I suppose
[12:45] <ricotz> journalctl -xb | grep gdm
[12:46] <ricotz> mgedmin, "WaylandEnable=false" should be in /etc/gdm3/custom.conf
[12:49] <turtle12345> gdm debug says runnig x-session, prime:1 not found. Prime Default runs and exits with status 0 session exited with status 127
[12:52] <turtle12345> maximum number of X display failiures reached: check x seever log for errors
[12:57] <turtle12345> okay. is there a way to reinstall ubuntu from the comand line or should i take a live usb version
[12:58] <turtle12345> home is encrypted and on a separete partition
[13:03] <ricotz> turtle12345, is nvidia-prime or bumblebee still installed?
[13:04] <turtle12345> no
[13:11] <mgedmin> "reinstalling from the command line" is mostly (a) making sure you have the right packages installed ('sudo apt install ubuntu-gnome-desktop^' should do that; the ^ tells apt to install the task rather than just the metapackage)
[13:11] <mgedmin> (b) making sure you don't have the wrong packages installed (where "wrong packages" are those that divert certain files, e.g. how nvidia's proprietary drivers replace the system libGL)
[13:12] <turtle12345> okay
[13:12] <mgedmin> and (c) making sure configuration files haven't been changed in detrimental ways
[13:12] <mgedmin> (a) is easy
[13:12] <mgedmin> (b) is harder --  I wouldn't know where to start!
[13:12] <turtle12345> i take the live usb variante
[13:12] <mgedmin> (c) is somewhere in the middle
[13:12] <mgedmin> you can apt install debsums
[13:13] <mgedmin> and then run debsums -ec to have it list all changed configuration files
[13:13] <mgedmin> then look for suspicious ones (e.g. anything to do with X or gdm)
[13:14] <turtle12345> okay
[13:14] <mgedmin> bascially, it can be done if you understand what you're doing
[13:14] <mgedmin> so yeah, reinstalling from livecd would be simpler (and probably quicker)
[13:16] <turtle12345> is there a way to protect /home from changes but use it /home?
[13:16] <mgedmin> as far as I know, if you don't tell the installer to format the partition, /home will be preserved
[13:17] <mgedmin> i.e. choose manual partitioning, select the current set of partitions, be sure to uncheck whatever 'format' checkboxes there are
[13:17] <mgedmin> now I haven't ever done this myself
[13:17] <mgedmin> and it's always a good idea to be sure you have a good backup
[13:18] <turtle12345> okay ty. i do a backup of /home and run the install
[14:25] <x-Na> ricotz, haven't seen the issue yet, but now it seems that everytime I press 's' it turns on the on screen keyboard (shortcut is marked as disabled) :D
[14:26] <x-Na> Happens on every user, so it's not user specific. And pressing 's' on vt it works
[14:57] <x-Na> If I purge gnome3 and gnome3-staging that behaviour is gone and if I readd them it comes back, but now it zoomed with just pressing 'p'
[15:02] <ricotz> x-Na, hmm, that is bad of course
[15:03] <ricotz> seems to be a fallout of https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=748526
[15:40] <x-Na> ricotz, but disabling shortcuts does not help in this case...
[15:41] <x-Na> I mean if I disable the shortcuts it still thinks Super + S is the shortcut...
[16:01] <ricotz> x-Na, https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=758076 was the problem
[16:02] <ricotz> mutter in ppa is working again
[16:28] <x-Na> ricotz, did you update it?
[16:59] <ricotz> x-Na, yes
[17:01] <bara10> hello guys, i am new on ubuntu gnome, and i wan to get involved, but i don't how to start, can anybody help me?
[17:23] <x-Na> ricotz, OK, I'll give it a try
[17:28] <x-Na> ricotz, and it seems to work, thank you
[17:33] <x-Na> But the sudden VT change still happens
[19:02] <ericwill> hello, does Ubuntu support a dark variant of Ambiance, (similar to Adwaita-dark, for upstream GTK)?