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tyhicks | hello | 16:37 |
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mdeslaur | \o | 16:38 |
tyhicks | #startmeeting | 16:38 |
meetingology | Meeting started Mon Apr 25 16:38:42 2016 UTC. The chair is tyhicks. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. | 16:38 |
meetingology | Available commands: action commands idea info link nick | 16:38 |
tyhicks | The meeting agenda can be found at: | 16:38 |
tyhicks | [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/Meeting | 16:38 |
tyhicks | [TOPIC] Weekly stand-up report | 16:38 |
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tyhicks | mdeslaur: you're up | 16:38 |
mdeslaur | I'm on triage this week | 16:39 |
mdeslaur | I just released mysql updates | 16:39 |
mdeslaur | and will be going down the list | 16:39 |
mdeslaur | I may be also fixing bug 1574670 since people still seem to be using that | 16:39 |
ubottu | bug 1574670 in update-manager (Ubuntu Yakkety) "ubuntu-support-status returns inaccurate information" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1574670 | 16:39 |
mdeslaur | and that's pretty much it, sbeattie, you're up | 16:39 |
tyhicks | that'd be nice | 16:39 |
sbeattie | that's broken again? argh. | 16:40 |
sbeattie | I'm in the happy place this week. | 16:40 |
sbeattie | I have openjdk updates to work on, openjdk-8 are built and need testing, I think tdaitx might have openjdk-7 to the point where he'll hand off to me. not sure where openjdk-6 is at | 16:41 |
sbeattie | I need to poke infinity about copying the libc6 updates I have ready to the -proposed pockets, as I'd like for them to go through that process before publishing to -security | 16:42 |
tyhicks | sbeattie: is that so you can get some extra testing? | 16:42 |
sbeattie | tyhicks: yes, I'd like to confirm that the buildds won't break before publishing. | 16:43 |
sbeattie | seems ... kinda important. | 16:43 |
tyhicks | agreed :) | 16:43 |
sbeattie | I need to coalesce some of the stuff I've written about pie into a wiki page for packagers. | 16:43 |
sbeattie | as well as sort out some of the failures being seen, and get some of my fixes sponsored. | 16:44 |
sbeattie | that will probably consume my week. | 16:44 |
sbeattie | tyhicks: you're up. | 16:44 |
tyhicks | I'm on community this week | 16:44 |
mdeslaur | sbeattie: it's been broken since after 10.04 | 16:45 |
mdeslaur | sbeattie: at least, the source data is inaccurate | 16:45 |
sbeattie | mdeslaur: well, it doesn't backtrace anymore like it did in 14.04 for a while. | 16:45 |
mdeslaur | right, yeah | 16:45 |
tyhicks | I have 16.10 work planning to do | 16:45 |
tyhicks | I'll be helping sbeattie with the PIE by default build failure uploads (mostly sponsoring but may need to help out more as he's juggling two big updates) | 16:46 |
tyhicks | I have a number of code reviews to do (not MIRs) | 16:47 |
tyhicks | and I need to come up to speed more on some snappy related things like interfaces | 16:48 |
tyhicks | sarnold: you're up | 16:48 |
sarnold | I'm on bug triage this week | 16:48 |
sarnold | and I'd like to review john's apparmor patches that he posted last week | 16:48 |
sarnold | It might also be nice to engage in some serious yak shaving | 16:49 |
sarnold | that's it for me, chrisccoulson? | 16:49 |
chrisccoulson | I've got Firefox and Oxide updates to get out this week | 16:49 |
chrisccoulson | In addition to that, I need to spend some time on bug 1326697 | 16:50 |
ubottu | bug 1326697 in Oxide "GN (Generate Ninja) is coming" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1326697 | 16:50 |
chrisccoulson | Other than that, I'll be working on bugs that are targetted for the 1.16 release (I need to make that list this week) | 16:51 |
chrisccoulson | That's me done | 16:51 |
tyhicks | thanks! | 16:52 |
tyhicks | [TOPIC] Highlighted packages | 16:52 |
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tyhicks | The Ubuntu Security team will highlight some community-supported packages that might be good candidates for updating and or triaging. If you would like to help Ubuntu and not sure where to start, this is a great way to do so. | 16:52 |
tyhicks | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/UpdateProcedures for details and if you have any questions, feel free to ask in #ubuntu-security. To find out other ways of helping out, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/GettingInvolved. | 16:52 |
tyhicks | http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/python-requests-kerberos.html | 16:52 |
tyhicks | http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/w3af.html | 16:53 |
tyhicks | http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/node-marked.html | 16:53 |
tyhicks | http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/percona-xtrabackup.html | 16:53 |
tyhicks | http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/libxml-security-java.html | 16:53 |
tyhicks | [TOPIC] Miscellaneous and Questions | 16:53 |
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tyhicks | Does anyone have any other questions or items to discuss? | 16:53 |
doko | pie ... are any toolchain updates needed? | 16:55 |
doko | we fixed ocaml and ghc, anything else? | 16:55 |
tyhicks | sbeattie: do you know of anything? | 16:55 |
doko | sbeattie, could you give me a list of packages with static libs, which need no-change rebuilds? | 16:57 |
sbeattie | doko: yeah, I can do that. | 16:57 |
sbeattie | toolchain wise: bintuils, glibc will want rebuilds for sure. | 16:57 |
doko | ohh, didn't do glibc yet | 16:58 |
sbeattie | the 'check' package is another one that trips quite a few packages. | 16:58 |
sbeattie | well a few. | 16:59 |
sbeattie | I think the other toolchain issue I hit was go, but that should be addressed with the patch mwhudson sent upstream and has already been incorporated. | 17:00 |
tyhicks | mdeslaur, sbeattie, sarnold, ChrisCoulson, doko: Thanks! | 17:00 |
tyhicks | #endmeeting | 17:00 |
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meetingology | Meeting ended Mon Apr 25 17:00:55 2016 UTC. | 17:00 |
meetingology | Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2016/ubuntu-meeting.2016-04-25-16.38.moin.txt | 17:00 |
tyhicks | oops | 17:01 |
mdeslaur | thanks tyhicks | 17:01 |
tyhicks | didn't mean to cut things off | 17:01 |
sbeattie | tyhicks: heh, thanks. that's okay, the rest doesn't really need to be part of the meeting. | 17:01 |
* tyhicks nods | 17:01 | |
sarnold | thanks tyhicks! | 17:02 |
BenC | o/ | 19:01 |
rbasak | o/ | 19:01 |
flexiondotorg | o/ | 19:01 |
micahg | o/ | 19:02 |
rbasak | How many is quorum? 4? | 19:04 |
flexiondotorg | cyphermox, You joining? | 19:06 |
sil2100 | o/ | 19:07 |
sil2100 | (sorry for being late) | 19:07 |
cyphermox | ugh, sorry, I won't be able to stick around for the meeting | 19:09 |
rbasak | I count 4.5. | 19:09 |
infinity | #startmeeting DMB meeting | 19:09 |
meetingology | Meeting started Mon Apr 25 19:09:34 2016 UTC. The chair is infinity. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. | 19:09 |
meetingology | Available commands: action commands idea info link nick | 19:09 |
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infinity | #topic Review actions from last meeting | 19:09 |
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infinity | cyphermox to make membership changes | 19:10 |
infinity | Iz done? | 19:10 |
cyphermox | yes, iz done. | 19:10 |
infinity | bdmurray to summarize meeting / send announcements | 19:10 |
infinity | That appears to have not been done since Sept 2015. :P | 19:12 |
infinity | Perhaps time to revisit team reports. | 19:12 |
infinity | DMB members who didn't consent to fill in feedback to Noskcaj | 19:12 |
infinity | ^-- Did people do this? | 19:12 |
BenC | I don’t know what that is | 19:12 |
BenC | It was on the agenda last week, too. | 19:13 |
infinity | I missed the last meeting which is, I assume, where this action came up? | 19:13 |
BenC | Last meeting | 19:13 |
infinity | Oh. | 19:13 |
infinity | Well, does someone know what it means? If not, we should strike it instead of carrying it. | 19:13 |
BenC | I think it’s left over from September. | 19:13 |
sil2100 | I guess this was some leftover from the previous meetings? Like the old old? | 19:13 |
infinity | cyphermox: Any ideas? | 19:13 |
micahg | yeah, at this point it's a new DMB and he should reapply if he has people willing to endorse his application | 19:14 |
infinity | Check. | 19:14 |
infinity | I'll strike the action. | 19:14 |
BenC | So let it be written... | 19:14 |
cyphermox | infinity: indeed | 19:14 |
infinity | Moving on. | 19:14 |
infinity | flexiondotorg: You here? | 19:15 |
flexiondotorg | Present. | 19:15 |
infinity | #topic Martin Wimpress MATE PPU upload application | 19:15 |
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infinity | flexiondotorg: Tell us all about MATE, yourself, your life histoy, and you'd cat's medical records. | 19:15 |
flexiondotorg | OK | 19:16 |
infinity | While slackers like me go read the application. | 19:16 |
flexiondotorg | MATE is the continuation of GNOME2. | 19:16 |
flexiondotorg | But updated to support modern technologies suchs as gsettings, systemd and GTK3+ | 19:16 |
BenC | How many other people are involved in the project? | 19:17 |
flexiondotorg | I'm a MATE core team member and have been for several years now. | 19:17 |
flexiondotorg | I also am chief executive minion for MATE Desktop team. | 19:17 |
flexiondotorg | For MATE, about 6 regular core contriutors. | 19:17 |
BenC | Do you mentor contributors outside of the core? | 19:18 |
flexiondotorg | And about 20 somewhat regualr commiters. | 19:18 |
flexiondotorg | I do. | 19:18 |
infinity | flexiondotorg: So, at a quick glance, even without any nitpicking interview bits, I'd say PPU for the 7 packages you listed is probably a no-brainer, *but* I'd also argue you made the packageset way too small. | 19:18 |
flexiondotorg | I've mentored via GSoC | 19:18 |
infinity | flexiondotorg: What's your argument for not including the entire mate desktop environment in this? | 19:18 |
* BenC wondered that as well | 19:18 | |
flexiondotorg | infinity, Orginally the package set included all of MATE. | 19:18 |
flexiondotorg | I was asked to reduce it. | 19:18 |
micahg | is this a packageset application or PPU? | 19:19 |
flexiondotorg | I maintain mATE in Debian. | 19:19 |
infinity | flexiondotorg: ORLY? Who asked you to reduce it? | 19:19 |
flexiondotorg | So all of MATE is synced from Debian directly to Ubuntu without changes. | 19:19 |
infinity | I mean, I assume the DMB, but I clearly missed that meeting. :P | 19:19 |
flexiondotorg | infinity, I forget who asked. | 19:19 |
BenC | Is there an existing package set that 1 or more of the other core contributors has access to? | 19:19 |
flexiondotorg | But look at the wiki history, you'll see I removed loads. | 19:19 |
infinity | flexiondotorg: Yes, and that works well for you in the devel cycle, but you just signed up for a 3 year LTS, and you can't sync from Debian for that. | 19:19 |
flexiondotorg | Yes. | 19:19 |
flexiondotorg | When the freeze happens I make fixes in Debian and then requestsync those to Ubuntu. | 19:20 |
flexiondotorg | And that slow us up somewhat. | 19:20 |
infinity | Anyhow, I think we can break this into two topics so we don't get bogged down in more confusion and delays for you. | 19:20 |
sil2100 | flexiondotorg: as per our IRC PM discussion, it's best to ask for more - if it's too much we would propose a smaller set then | 19:20 |
infinity | Does anyone have questions for Martin WRT the current package set request and his competencies? | 19:20 |
flexiondotorg | So if I was able to process those MATE syncrequests during freeze it would be a great help and also unburden the desktop, sponsors and release teams who I've leaned on quite a bit over the last 18 months. | 19:21 |
infinity | We'll attack the issue of the size of the set in a second. | 19:21 |
flexiondotorg | Should I propose the MATE Desktop package set now? | 19:22 |
infinity | Right, I don't see anyone stumbling over themselves to ask things. So I'm doing this in two bits. | 19:22 |
BenC | I’m good on competency and relevance of his application | 19:22 |
infinity | flexiondotorg: Sec. :P | 19:22 |
sil2100 | Fine from my side, I already had opportunities to see flexiondotorg's work | 19:22 |
infinity | #startvote Create a MATE packgeset (based on the current set in the wiki) and give Martin Wimpress upload rights for it | 19:22 |
rbasak | I think flexiondotorg having driven the milestones speaks for itself wrt. his knowledge of the release cycle. | 19:22 |
BenC | +1 | 19:23 |
infinity | #vote Create a MATE packgeset (based on the current set in the wiki) and give Martin Wimpress upload rights for it | 19:23 |
meetingology | Please vote on: Create a MATE packgeset (based on the current set in the wiki) and give Martin Wimpress upload rights for it | 19:23 |
meetingology | Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1/-1/+0 #channelname) | 19:23 |
rbasak | And with him maintaining in Debian, general upload access is a no-brainer. Together with his Ubuntu contributions. | 19:23 |
infinity | Better. | 19:23 |
infinity | +1 | 19:23 |
meetingology | +1 received from infinity | 19:23 |
sil2100 | +1 | 19:23 |
meetingology | +1 received from sil2100 | 19:23 |
BenC | +1 | 19:23 |
meetingology | +1 received from BenC | 19:23 |
rbasak | +1 | 19:23 |
meetingology | +1 received from rbasak | 19:23 |
infinity | #endvote | 19:23 |
meetingology | Voting ended on: Create a MATE packgeset (based on the current set in the wiki) and give Martin Wimpress upload rights for it | 19:23 |
meetingology | Votes for:4 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0 | 19:23 |
meetingology | Motion carried | 19:23 |
micahg | +1 | 19:23 |
infinity | micahg: We had quorum, you're too late. ;) | 19:23 |
infinity | Okay. So, second knock-off item. | 19:23 |
infinity | #vote We believe the MATE packageset is probably too limited, vote to assign an action to Martin to propose a larger scope for review out-of-band or at the next meeting | 19:24 |
meetingology | Please vote on: We believe the MATE packageset is probably too limited, vote to assign an action to Martin to propose a larger scope for review out-of-band or at the next meeting | 19:24 |
meetingology | Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1/-1/+0 #channelname) | 19:24 |
infinity | +1 | 19:24 |
meetingology | +1 received from infinity | 19:24 |
BenC | +1 | 19:24 |
meetingology | +1 received from BenC | 19:24 |
sil2100 | +1 | 19:24 |
meetingology | +1 received from sil2100 | 19:24 |
rbasak | +1 | 19:24 |
meetingology | +1 received from rbasak | 19:24 |
sil2100 | (would give that to him already personally) | 19:24 |
rbasak | But presumably we can start with his list? | 19:24 |
infinity | rbasak: Right, hence why I did it in two votes. We'll set him up ASAP with the current list, then expand it based on his proposed additions. | 19:25 |
infinity | Delaying the former for the latter seems pointless. | 19:25 |
rbasak | Yeah that's what I was asking. I didn't think we'd just voted for that :) | 19:25 |
micahg | +1 | 19:25 |
meetingology | +1 received from micahg | 19:25 |
infinity | #endvote | 19:25 |
meetingology | Voting ended on: We believe the MATE packageset is probably too limited, vote to assign an action to Martin to propose a larger scope for review out-of-band or at the next meeting | 19:25 |
meetingology | Votes for:5 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0 | 19:25 |
meetingology | Motion carried | 19:25 |
rbasak | But I think it's safe to assume that everyone's fine with it. | 19:25 |
rbasak | (or understood that already if it's just me) | 19:25 |
infinity | flexiondotorg: Alright, you have an action to bring us a better/expanded list. But we'll hook you up with the tiny list after the meeting's done. | 19:26 |
flexiondotorg | Thanks everyone, that's brilliant :-) | 19:26 |
infinity | Oh, and I'll take an executive action to make this retroactive to xenial, so you're not stuck mainintaining an LTS you can't upload to. :P | 19:26 |
BenC | flexiondotorg: Congrats | 19:26 |
flexiondotorg | infinity, That's even more perfect. | 19:27 |
rbasak | flexiondotorg: what took you so long? :-) | 19:27 |
sil2100 | ;) | 19:27 |
flexiondotorg | rbasak, The DMB was on hiatus ;-) | 19:27 |
infinity | #action infinity to update xenial and yakkety for ubuntu-mate packageset and flexiondotorg's upload privs to same | 19:27 |
meetingology | ACTION: infinity to update xenial and yakkety for ubuntu-mate packageset and flexiondotorg's upload privs to same | 19:27 |
infinity | #action flexiondotorg to bring us an expanded MATE packageset proposal | 19:28 |
meetingology | ACTION: flexiondotorg to bring us an expanded MATE packageset proposal | 19:28 |
flexiondotorg | Thanks everyone. | 19:28 |
sil2100 | yw, congratulations! | 19:28 |
infinity | Okay, and due to both the lack of psusi in the meeting and the lack of endorsements on his application, we'll defer him to another time. | 19:29 |
infinity | #topic AOB | 19:29 |
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infinity | Next chair is BenC. | 19:29 |
infinity | With a backup of sil2100 | 19:30 |
sil2100 | Uh oh! | 19:30 |
sil2100 | Ok | 19:30 |
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infinity | I'd like to propose that someone actually fix the (&(*!%%! fridge calendar to (a) accurately represent the meeting times and (b) invite everyone with their preferred calendar email address (adam.conrad@canonical.com for me, please) | 19:30 |
infinity | Anyone want to take that action? | 19:31 |
sil2100 | I could take care of that - never did anything to the fridge before | 19:31 |
infinity | I might actually show up to meetings if my phone yells at me. | 19:31 |
sil2100 | Besides opening up for food and drinks | 19:31 |
infinity | sil2100: It's not too hard to sort out. Go nuts. | 19:31 |
infinity | The key is knowing the meeting times. | 19:31 |
infinity | Which I clearly don't. | 19:31 |
sil2100 | Ok, add an action item so I don't forget | 19:31 |
infinity | #action sil2100 to fix the Fridge calendar to list DMB meetings at the right times and invite the current members | 19:32 |
meetingology | ACTION: sil2100 to fix the Fridge calendar to list DMB meetings at the right times and invite the current members | 19:32 |
sil2100 | Thanks o/ | 19:32 |
infinity | sil2100: For Canonical employees, invite first.last@canonical (unless someone requests otherwise), since those are our work calendars. You might have to ask the non-canonical people for their preferred annoyance address for gcal invites. | 19:32 |
micahg | do we want to take a poll for meeting times for the new board | 19:32 |
infinity | We're 4 NA and 2 EU, and no APAC? | 19:33 |
infinity | Shouldn't be hard to just find one time that works for all 6. | 19:33 |
infinity | Unless we want to keep alternating to make it easier on applicants. | 19:33 |
rbasak | I'm happy with the current timing. Evening for me isn't great but presumably that'd be a bit harsh. | 19:33 |
micahg | I think that alternation is for applicants, yes | 19:34 |
rbasak | So alternating works for me. | 19:34 |
infinity | Kay. I'm not picky, so long as I have reminders. ;) | 19:34 |
BenC | benmcollins13@gmail.com for my cal | 19:34 |
rbasak | first.last@ubuntu.com for me please. | 19:35 |
infinity | rbasak: ubuntu.com, really? Not canonical.com? Do you run two calendars? | 19:35 |
infinity | (weirdo) | 19:36 |
rbasak | Oh, good point. I have no idea where calendar invites actually go when sent by email. | 19:36 |
rbasak | @canonical.com is my gcal. | 19:36 |
meetingology | rbasak: Error: "canonical.com" is not a valid command. | 19:36 |
infinity | Right, canonical.com then. :P | 19:36 |
rbasak | But I'm not sure sent-by-email invites work anyway. | 19:36 |
infinity | rbasak: Right, the Fridge is more magic than sent-by-email. | 19:36 |
rbasak | Ah, OK. Thanks. | 19:37 |
infinity | micahg: Preferred email for gcal invites, for sil2100 to sort? The rest of us can just use @canonical. | 19:37 |
infinity | And I'd like to close the meeting. | 19:37 |
infinity | Which I'll do if no one has AOAOB. | 19:38 |
infinity | Going once. | 19:38 |
infinity | Twice. | 19:38 |
infinity | #endmeeting | 19:38 |
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meetingology | Meeting ended Mon Apr 25 19:38:50 2016 UTC. | 19:38 |
meetingology | Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2016/ubuntu-meeting.2016-04-25-19.09.moin.txt | 19:38 |
sil2100 | o/ | 19:38 |
sil2100 | Thanks everyone | 19:39 |
rbasak | Thanks for chairing infinity | 19:39 |
flexiondotorg | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MartinWimpress/DeveloperApplicationPPU | 19:40 |
flexiondotorg | Updated, please can you add me to the next DMB agenda? | 19:40 |
infinity | flexiondotorg: We can probably review out of band, it shouldn't need quorum. | 19:42 |
infinity | flexiondotorg: But let's revist between now and then and if no one manages to do it OOB, we'll put it on the agenda. | 19:43 |
flexiondotorg | infinity, OK | 19:43 |
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