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oldspicenevermind00:01
diddledan_I miss my wily00:01
daftykins:)00:02
daftykinsfound scampi in the supermarket for the first time in months \o/00:02
diddledan_\o/00:02
daftykinstime to throw in some scampi 'n' chips \o/00:02
diddledan_nice00:02
diddledan_I wonder if the skype webapp can be packaged into a shell for usage on loonicks now that the official downloadable seems to be broken?00:14
diddledan_of course that might also get it onto the boomtutu phone00:17
daftykinsi thought it still required some special sauce to do anything beyond IM?00:17
diddledan_donno00:18
m0nkey_Who do I complain to, to get Montreal back on the TZ selection?00:46
AuroraAvenuedunno00:46
m0nkey_America/Montreal used to be a valid timezone, not anymore.00:47
diddledan_m0nkey_, mark@canonical.com?01:16
diddledan_alternatively /msg sabdfl :-p01:16
m0nkey_I don't think it's a Cononical thing.. same thing happened in FBSD too.01:17
m0nkey_also, can 16.04 boot on a mac without osx or refit being installed.. ala Fedora?01:19
m0nkey_*refind01:20
diddledan_go to 22minutes: https://developers.facebook.com/videos/f8-2016/keynote-d2/01:22
diddledan_fun interactions in 3d01:22
diddledan_m0nkey_, maybe the timezone data has changed upstream then? the package in ubuntu is zoneinfo01:25
diddledan_might find the upstream details from that01:25
diddledan_oh no, tzdata01:26
diddledan_upstream: http://www.iana.org/time-zones01:26
diddledan_m0nkey_, here's the change: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/tz-announce/2015-April/000030.html01:30
m0nkey_backzone file?01:33
diddledan_pas d'idée01:33
m0nkey_me non plus01:33
diddledan_I'd like to see geocoding for timezone data so that you input your actual town/city and it uses that to figure out which timezone you are in. it should allow the existing selection of locality AND the search mechanism I just mentioned01:36
diddledan_so you can do it either way01:36
daftykinsm0nkey_: i'd think most can boot on a mac fine, rEFInd is mostly for a friendly bootloader02:22
daftykinsnot gonna be a good experience on a mac mind02:23
diddledan_you can get the mac bootloader to load grub without a long delay by using the recovery to bless the correct file in the EFI partition02:32
diddledan_there's supposed to be a linux version of bless but I don't know how well it works02:32
daftykinsbless you02:33
diddledan_it's called bless because Steve Jobs is the holy Father02:33
diddledan_sheep go "iphone!"02:34
diddledan_:-p02:34
diddledan_sorry, I should save the jesting for when shauno returns :-p02:34
zmoylan-1ino no, that's my job... :-P02:35
daftykins;_;02:35
mapppsooo04:47
mapppssillicon valley ep 1 series 3 i out04:48
zmoylan-1ii got tremors 5 on friday on dvd...04:48
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daftykinshopefully you don't get them trying to put the disc in, zmoylan-pi04:53
zmoylan-pinow i have to make a special effort to find tremors 4 in dublin this week...04:55
daftykinsdidn't realise they'd made that many04:55
zmoylan-pii'd heard 4 was out and that 5 was in the works but hadn't realised it was out on dvd already. mind the last few have been straight to dvd movies04:56
zmoylan-piwonderfully bad movies04:56
daftykinsthey had to be really :)04:58
zmoylan-pi'why do you have cannon fuse?'04:58
mapppslol tremors 505:01
mapppswhy did you buy it heh05:01
daftykinsi've a feeling a shop paid zmoylan-pi to take it ;)05:01
zmoylan-pii buy my movies on dvd05:01
zmoylan-pi€705:02
zmoylan-pithis month i also got ice cold in alex and lawrence of arabia05:02
daftykinsg'night folks! have a good week ahead o/05:10
zmoylan-pio/05:10
diddledan_tremors are awesome movies05:22
MartijnV1Sare they.. earth-shatteringly good?05:23
diddledan_more that they worm their way into your subconcious05:23
diddledan_subconscious*05:24
zmoylan-pithey have underground cult following05:24
diddledan_I guess I'm a cultist05:24
knightwisezmoylan-pi: do you also still buy 78 rpm gramophones ?06:37
knightwise?06:37
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diddledan_knightwise, 8 bits are enough for anyone06:38
popeyMorning06:43
knightwisemornin popey06:43
MooDoomorning all06:57
foobarrymy xbox360 issue seems resolved08:33
foobarryno lock ups for last few nights08:33
foobarryskyrim++08:34
MooDoojust thinking about an elgato to record some xbox gameplay :D08:34
MooDoowhile running do-release-upgrade on one of my servers ;)08:35
brobostigonmorning boys and girls.09:13
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Guest99393Good morning all!  Happy Monday, and happy World Penguin Day! 😃09:23
knightwisehey brobostigon09:30
brobostigonmorning knightwise09:30
MooDoomorning you guys09:32
brobostigonmorning MooDoo09:33
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MooDooupgraded a server at work to LTS - Check.09:37
foobarryfound my blanket to warm me agains thte cold - tick09:47
foobarryhttp://www.engadget.com/2016/04/25/logitech-retro-game-display-160-keyboard/10:09
foobarrysomebody spent a lot of time doing that10:09
SuperMattmental10:10
MooDoolooks good though :)10:37
davmor2JamesTait: bit old school from me for today /!\ note open at you own risk It's Frank Zappa https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrV5mWATfxk10:42
davmor2tis a great guitar solo though :)10:43
MooDoohowdy davmor210:53
davmor2MooDoo: howdo10:54
knightwiseChatting with prince .. on AOL http://www.hanselman.com/blog/ChattingWithPrinceOnAOLIn1999ThisWayIsModern.aspx11:06
zmoylan-pino vinyl knightwise, cds ripped to mp3s for me..11:25
MooDoozmoylan-pi: same for me, although i might have picked ogg over mp3 for some reason :)11:27
MartijnVdSflac all the way11:28
MartijnVdSthen you can make ogg and mp3 all day long, whichever is in favour this week11:28
MooDoo:)11:28
bashrcI standardised on mp3 a long time ago, even though I knew it had patent issues11:28
zmoylan-piwell my dumbphone can't handle ogg and not in the mood for converting all my mp3s to ogg either :-)11:29
bashrcmainly because mp3 just works on all the things11:29
MooDoomight be of interest to someone - https://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Seth-Juarez/Windows-Subsystem-for-Linux-Architectural-Overview11:32
* awilkins has been an Ogg Vorbis person for at least 15 years11:34
awilkinsAndroid plays it. Deliberately sought out a player that played it, back in the day.11:34
awilkinsOgg pretty much works on all the things now too because it's OSS and adding it to your device is a free feature11:35
awilkinsNever developed a FLAC habit11:35
awilkinsStorage was at a premium back then.11:36
* awilkins implores people to get off his lawn11:36
popeyMy ears don't value FLAC11:37
zmoylan-piwhen i first stsrted ripping cds it was an overnight job for to rip a cd on ancient amd-k6-2 processor. and mp3 was /good enough/11:39
foobarryi watched force awakens on a projector screen at home on say11:39
foobarrysat11:39
* diplo agrees with all above comments about ogg/mp3, never saw the point in flac11:39
foobarrysent the audio to a guitar amp via my bluetooth audio thingy11:39
foobarryit was epic11:39
foobarrythought about pluging chromecast into the projector but what about redirecting audio?11:40
knightwiseif your projector supports audio via hdmi there is no problem11:41
popeyi think he wants to send the audio to  somewhere else11:42
foobarryno audio out from the projector though11:42
foobarryonly a crappy internal speaker11:42
foobarryi hear roki streaming sticks might support private listening11:42
foobarryso your teenagers can stream to TV and listen via their phone with earphones11:43
knightwiseyou can stream to the cromecast audio ?11:44
davmor2http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-36123444 ouch11:51
MyrttiI don't think I've ever walked into a one11:54
DJonesI'm quite impressed with my chromecast 2, watching video streamed from Chrome over wifi from the internet to a tv works well11:55
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* davmor2 just leaves this here as the song stuck in his head https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8JEm4d6Wu412:03
knightwisei use it daily :) we dont have cable anymore . just a plex server, netflix and a chromecast12:13
* DJones debates whether to upgrade a 12.04 server to 14.0412:22
MooDooDJones: just did my lts to lts :)12:22
MooDoowell not directly12:23
DJonesI'm not going to 16.04 yet, I'll wait till thats officially released with 16.04.1, I'll just stick with 14.04 if I upgrade12:24
popeygood call :)12:24
diploDoes anyone *just* run VM's broadband line here ?12:31
DJonesJust hope they remember to update http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release  so that users can update rather than pici haveing to chase dev's a couple of hours after release12:31
diploDebating cancelling Sky altogether and use on demand services instead12:31
* diplo doesn't include knightwise as he's not local :)12:31
TwistedLuciditydiplo: I'm on VM, but have a TV package; althought we mostly use the catch-up services due to live broadcast being <nearly swore> sub-optimal in the quality dimension12:50
TwistedLucidityCite: Nat Geo, History, Discovery and the plethora of pointless shopping channels.12:51
TwistedLucidityHave often considered switching to cable-only and just paying for Netflix or summat.12:52
TwistedLucidityAlthough the lack of GNU\Linux support can often be an issue12:52
awilkinsNetflix works fine on Chrome12:53
awilkinsiPlayer works12:54
awilkinsThe other catchup things are a bit spotty12:54
awilkinsNetflix and iPlayer have gone HTML512:54
awilkinsThe Flash ones that insist on HAL for DRM don't work (you used to be able to furtle about and get them working but I've not been able to on the most recent generation of them)12:55
awilkinsSo no 4oD (or whatever it mutated into) etc.12:56
awilkinsAnd for some reason my TV vendor hasn't got catchup apps except iPlayer12:56
awilkinsPanasonic, if anyone wants to avoid their products like the plague (I got it free)12:56
foobarry4od works12:59
foobarrywoops, misread chrome as chromecast13:00
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foobarryah,the simple pleasure of strawberry laces14:08
MyrttiI just had the simple pleasure of chocolate froyo14:10
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diploYeah exactly the reason for it for me awilkins / TwistedLucidity ( sorry didn't notice the disconnect :D )14:54
diploOnly thing I'd miss from Sky is F1 but I guess I could be naughty for that when it's not on C414:55
* TwistedLucidity find F1 rather dull14:55
TwistedLuciditydiplo: Have things improved? Is there actual passing on track, or is it all done in the puts/lawsuits afterwards?14:56
diddledan_fun: #1574681 raised from an email by upstream winetricks dev reports that wine and winetricks are woefully out of date14:59
diddledan_no bot?14:59
diddledan_https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/winetricks/+bug/157468114:59
lubotu3Ubuntu bug 1574681 in winetricks (Ubuntu) "Merge or sync with Debian unstable" [Undecided,New]14:59
diddledan_silly bot15:00
diploIts definitely better TwistedLucidity, I record it though and skip lots now adays15:01
diploNot sure if that's down to a busier life/kids though or just that it's boring at times15:01
diploA lot of tracks are follow the leader which annoys me! China was great last week though15:01
diddledan_I missed it15:02
diddledan_wonder if ch4 has it on chatchup15:02
diploDefo worth a watch15:02
diploUsed to be 40D ?15:02
diddledan_aye, 4OD now All415:02
diploDidn't have lvie anyhoo, it will be highlights I guess15:02
foobarrydiplo: i'm a highlights man now15:04
foobarrychildren have made my life too busy to watch 2hrs of F115:04
foobarrybecause i have to squeeze in a lot of TV in the evening15:04
foobarryfixed my elasticsearch but struggling to delete a load of indices15:05
diplofoobarry: I think that is part of it for me, I used to watch it live, I now record it and watch it when kids are in bed or outside playing15:13
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davmor2just incase people forgot about it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xs3BXVTF7mw still blows me away at how many musicians it take to replicate a synth/computer :)19:02
zmoylan-pii coulld get a c64 with a sid chip... https://twitter.com/angryearthling/status/724651437096075264/photo/119:04
AzelphurAnyone know a place to get good, cheap Micro USB Cables? Ideally 3 metres, Fabric, 28/24AWG? I bought some off CPC and they only carried a 0.4A charge so returned them.20:35
Myrttidunno about AWG, but20:38
Myrttihttp://www.wooke.co.uk/Micro_USB_Cable_-_Fantasy_3M98FT_ChargeOriginal_Charge_and_Sync/p2013229_13392731.aspx20:38
Azelphur£12? you lost the cheap part too :P20:38
MyrttiI concentrated on the 'good'20:39
Azelphurheck, Volutz o a pack of 5 3M cables, fabric, and 28/24AWG they are £17.98 :)20:39
AzelphurVolutz do a pack*20:39
MyrttiI've got a habit of breaking USB cables, and I've had that cable from kickstarter for a good while now20:39
Myrttiand they still work, in comparison to breaking it after two months20:39
Azelphuryea I don't tend to break them, just want one that carries a decent charge20:40
AzelphurI know Monoprice does great 28/24AWG cables for $1.62, but shipping to UK is $40 -_-20:40
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daftykinswhat's the use-case? a friend brought over a cheap microUSB of a few feet and it seems to struggle to keep an xbox one controller running20:50
Azelphurdaftykins: charging phones and such21:01
daftykinswhy long? that's the exact situation you don't want to be pushing distance really21:03
daftykinsdiddledan_: haha just had one of my own disks go now ;) diagnosed it from slow to skip music tracks... oof!21:03
Azelphurdaftykins: just usb cables to go near the sofa, so you can still use your phone while it's charging, I have 3M Cables that do 2A21:03
Myrttidaftykins: I use my three meter one in the bed, it's just nicer. It's also handy when traveling21:03
daftykinsyou people are insane :)21:04
Myrttidaftykins: *shrug* saved us on the California honeymoon several times21:04
Azelphurthink I might have found a winner, https://www.amazon.co.uk/ULTRICS%C2%AE-Premium-shielding-Charging-Android/dp/B017O8TKR421:04
Azelphur£10 for a pack of 5, tested to sustain over 2.5A, 24 AWG, not fabric but can't have everything ;)21:05
Myrtticharger had a three meter cable and we plugged the three meter USB on it on top, worked wonders when the hotel room had one socket in the hallway.21:05
AzelphurI love my USB cable tester, allows me to filter out the bad from the good :)21:05
daftykinsthat's some pretty niche usage right thar21:06
Azelphurin other news, I've been having so much fun with AliExpress, can pick up so many silly little gadgets and only end up spending a tenner21:18
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