[00:01] <oldspice> nevermind
[00:01] <diddledan_> I miss my wily
[00:02] <daftykins> :)
[00:02] <daftykins> found scampi in the supermarket for the first time in months \o/
[00:02] <diddledan_> \o/
[00:02] <daftykins> time to throw in some scampi 'n' chips \o/
[00:02] <diddledan_> nice
[00:14] <diddledan_> I wonder if the skype webapp can be packaged into a shell for usage on loonicks now that the official downloadable seems to be broken?
[00:17] <diddledan_> of course that might also get it onto the boomtutu phone
[00:17] <daftykins> i thought it still required some special sauce to do anything beyond IM?
[00:18] <diddledan_> donno
[00:46] <m0nkey_> Who do I complain to, to get Montreal back on the TZ selection?
[00:46] <AuroraAvenue> dunno
[00:47] <m0nkey_> America/Montreal used to be a valid timezone, not anymore.
[01:16] <diddledan_> m0nkey_, mark@canonical.com?
[01:16] <diddledan_> alternatively /msg sabdfl :-p
[01:17] <m0nkey_> I don't think it's a Cononical thing.. same thing happened in FBSD too.
[01:19] <m0nkey_> also, can 16.04 boot on a mac without osx or refit being installed.. ala Fedora?
[01:20] <m0nkey_> *refind
[01:22] <diddledan_> go to 22minutes: https://developers.facebook.com/videos/f8-2016/keynote-d2/
[01:22] <diddledan_> fun interactions in 3d
[01:25] <diddledan_> m0nkey_, maybe the timezone data has changed upstream then? the package in ubuntu is zoneinfo
[01:25] <diddledan_> might find the upstream details from that
[01:26] <diddledan_> oh no, tzdata
[01:26] <diddledan_> upstream: http://www.iana.org/time-zones
[01:30] <diddledan_> m0nkey_, here's the change: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/tz-announce/2015-April/000030.html
[01:33] <m0nkey_> backzone file?
[01:33] <diddledan_> pas d'idée
[01:33] <m0nkey_> me non plus
[01:36] <diddledan_> I'd like to see geocoding for timezone data so that you input your actual town/city and it uses that to figure out which timezone you are in. it should allow the existing selection of locality AND the search mechanism I just mentioned
[01:36] <diddledan_> so you can do it either way
[02:22] <daftykins> m0nkey_: i'd think most can boot on a mac fine, rEFInd is mostly for a friendly bootloader
[02:23] <daftykins> not gonna be a good experience on a mac mind
[02:32] <diddledan_> you can get the mac bootloader to load grub without a long delay by using the recovery to bless the correct file in the EFI partition
[02:32] <diddledan_> there's supposed to be a linux version of bless but I don't know how well it works
[02:33] <daftykins> bless you
[02:33] <diddledan_> it's called bless because Steve Jobs is the holy Father
[02:34] <diddledan_> sheep go "iphone!"
[02:34] <diddledan_> :-p
[02:34] <diddledan_> sorry, I should save the jesting for when shauno returns :-p
[02:35] <zmoylan-1i> no no, that's my job... :-P
[02:35] <daftykins> ;_;
[04:47] <mappps> ooo
[04:48] <mappps> sillicon valley ep 1 series 3 i out
[04:48] <zmoylan-1i> i got tremors 5 on friday on dvd...
[04:53] <daftykins> hopefully you don't get them trying to put the disc in, zmoylan-pi
[04:55] <zmoylan-pi> now i have to make a special effort to find tremors 4 in dublin this week...
[04:55] <daftykins> didn't realise they'd made that many
[04:56] <zmoylan-pi> i'd heard 4 was out and that 5 was in the works but hadn't realised it was out on dvd already. mind the last few have been straight to dvd movies
[04:56] <zmoylan-pi> wonderfully bad movies
[04:58] <daftykins> they had to be really :)
[04:58] <zmoylan-pi> 'why do you have cannon fuse?'
[05:01] <mappps> lol tremors 5
[05:01] <mappps> why did you buy it heh
[05:01] <daftykins> i've a feeling a shop paid zmoylan-pi to take it ;)
[05:01] <zmoylan-pi> i buy my movies on dvd
[05:02] <zmoylan-pi> €7
[05:02] <zmoylan-pi> this month i also got ice cold in alex and lawrence of arabia
[05:10] <daftykins> g'night folks! have a good week ahead o/
[05:10] <zmoylan-pi> o/
[05:22] <diddledan_> tremors are awesome movies
[05:23] <MartijnV1S> are they.. earth-shatteringly good?
[05:23] <diddledan_> more that they worm their way into your subconcious
[05:24] <diddledan_> subconscious*
[05:24] <zmoylan-pi> they have underground cult following
[05:24] <diddledan_> I guess I'm a cultist
[06:37] <knightwise> zmoylan-pi: do you also still buy 78 rpm gramophones ?
[06:37] <knightwise> ?
[06:38] <diddledan_> knightwise, 8 bits are enough for anyone
[06:43] <popey> Morning
[06:43] <knightwise> mornin popey
[06:57] <MooDoo> morning all
[08:33] <foobarry> my xbox360 issue seems resolved
[08:33] <foobarry> no lock ups for last few nights
[08:34] <foobarry> skyrim++
[08:34] <MooDoo> just thinking about an elgato to record some xbox gameplay :D
[08:35] <MooDoo> while running do-release-upgrade on one of my servers ;)
[09:13] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[09:23] <Guest99393> Good morning all!  Happy Monday, and happy World Penguin Day! 😃
[09:30] <knightwise> hey brobostigon
[09:30] <brobostigon> morning knightwise
[09:32] <MooDoo> morning you guys
[09:33] <brobostigon> morning MooDoo
[09:37] <MooDoo> upgraded a server at work to LTS - Check.
[09:47] <foobarry> found my blanket to warm me agains thte cold - tick
[10:09] <foobarry> http://www.engadget.com/2016/04/25/logitech-retro-game-display-160-keyboard/
[10:09] <foobarry> somebody spent a lot of time doing that
[10:10] <SuperMatt> mental
[10:37] <MooDoo> looks good though :)
[10:42] <davmor2> JamesTait: bit old school from me for today /!\ note open at you own risk It's Frank Zappa https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrV5mWATfxk
[10:43] <davmor2> tis a great guitar solo though :)
[10:53] <MooDoo> howdy davmor2
[10:54] <davmor2> MooDoo: howdo
[11:06] <knightwise> Chatting with prince .. on AOL http://www.hanselman.com/blog/ChattingWithPrinceOnAOLIn1999ThisWayIsModern.aspx
[11:25] <zmoylan-pi> no vinyl knightwise, cds ripped to mp3s for me..
[11:27] <MooDoo> zmoylan-pi: same for me, although i might have picked ogg over mp3 for some reason :)
[11:28] <MartijnVdS> flac all the way
[11:28] <MartijnVdS> then you can make ogg and mp3 all day long, whichever is in favour this week
[11:28] <MooDoo> :)
[11:28] <bashrc> I standardised on mp3 a long time ago, even though I knew it had patent issues
[11:29] <zmoylan-pi> well my dumbphone can't handle ogg and not in the mood for converting all my mp3s to ogg either :-)
[11:29] <bashrc> mainly because mp3 just works on all the things
[11:32] <MooDoo> might be of interest to someone - https://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Seth-Juarez/Windows-Subsystem-for-Linux-Architectural-Overview
[11:34]  * awilkins has been an Ogg Vorbis person for at least 15 years
[11:34] <awilkins> Android plays it. Deliberately sought out a player that played it, back in the day.
[11:35] <awilkins> Ogg pretty much works on all the things now too because it's OSS and adding it to your device is a free feature
[11:35] <awilkins> Never developed a FLAC habit
[11:36] <awilkins> Storage was at a premium back then.
[11:36]  * awilkins implores people to get off his lawn
[11:37] <popey> My ears don't value FLAC
[11:39] <zmoylan-pi> when i first stsrted ripping cds it was an overnight job for to rip a cd on ancient amd-k6-2 processor. and mp3 was /good enough/
[11:39] <foobarry> i watched force awakens on a projector screen at home on say
[11:39] <foobarry> sat
[11:39]  * diplo agrees with all above comments about ogg/mp3, never saw the point in flac
[11:39] <foobarry> sent the audio to a guitar amp via my bluetooth audio thingy
[11:39] <foobarry> it was epic
[11:40] <foobarry> thought about pluging chromecast into the projector but what about redirecting audio?
[11:41] <knightwise> if your projector supports audio via hdmi there is no problem
[11:42] <popey> i think he wants to send the audio to  somewhere else
[11:42] <foobarry> no audio out from the projector though
[11:42] <foobarry> only a crappy internal speaker
[11:42] <foobarry> i hear roki streaming sticks might support private listening
[11:43] <foobarry> so your teenagers can stream to TV and listen via their phone with earphones
[11:44] <knightwise> you can stream to the cromecast audio ?
[11:51] <davmor2> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-36123444 ouch
[11:54] <Myrtti> I don't think I've ever walked into a one
[11:55] <DJones> I'm quite impressed with my chromecast 2, watching video streamed from Chrome over wifi from the internet to a tv works well
[12:03]  * davmor2 just leaves this here as the song stuck in his head https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8JEm4d6Wu4
[12:13] <knightwise> i use it daily :) we dont have cable anymore . just a plex server, netflix and a chromecast
[12:22]  * DJones debates whether to upgrade a 12.04 server to 14.04
[12:22] <MooDoo> DJones: just did my lts to lts :)
[12:23] <MooDoo> well not directly
[12:24] <DJones> I'm not going to 16.04 yet, I'll wait till thats officially released with 16.04.1, I'll just stick with 14.04 if I upgrade
[12:24] <popey> good call :)
[12:31] <diplo> Does anyone *just* run VM's broadband line here ?
[12:31] <DJones> Just hope they remember to update http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release  so that users can update rather than pici haveing to chase dev's a couple of hours after release
[12:31] <diplo> Debating cancelling Sky altogether and use on demand services instead
[12:31]  * diplo doesn't include knightwise as he's not local :)
[12:50] <TwistedLucidity> diplo: I'm on VM, but have a TV package; althought we mostly use the catch-up services due to live broadcast being <nearly swore> sub-optimal in the quality dimension
[12:51] <TwistedLucidity> Cite: Nat Geo, History, Discovery and the plethora of pointless shopping channels.
[12:52] <TwistedLucidity> Have often considered switching to cable-only and just paying for Netflix or summat.
[12:52] <TwistedLucidity> Although the lack of GNU\Linux support can often be an issue
[12:53] <awilkins> Netflix works fine on Chrome
[12:54] <awilkins> iPlayer works
[12:54] <awilkins> The other catchup things are a bit spotty
[12:54] <awilkins> Netflix and iPlayer have gone HTML5
[12:55] <awilkins> The Flash ones that insist on HAL for DRM don't work (you used to be able to furtle about and get them working but I've not been able to on the most recent generation of them)
[12:56] <awilkins> So no 4oD (or whatever it mutated into) etc.
[12:56] <awilkins> And for some reason my TV vendor hasn't got catchup apps except iPlayer
[12:56] <awilkins> Panasonic, if anyone wants to avoid their products like the plague (I got it free)
[12:59] <foobarry> 4od works
[13:00] <foobarry> woops, misread chrome as chromecast
[14:08] <foobarry> ah,the simple pleasure of strawberry laces
[14:10] <Myrtti> I just had the simple pleasure of chocolate froyo
[14:54] <diplo> Yeah exactly the reason for it for me awilkins / TwistedLucidity ( sorry didn't notice the disconnect :D )
[14:55] <diplo> Only thing I'd miss from Sky is F1 but I guess I could be naughty for that when it's not on C4
[14:55]  * TwistedLucidity find F1 rather dull
[14:56] <TwistedLucidity> diplo: Have things improved? Is there actual passing on track, or is it all done in the puts/lawsuits afterwards?
[14:59] <diddledan_> fun: #1574681 raised from an email by upstream winetricks dev reports that wine and winetricks are woefully out of date
[14:59] <diddledan_> no bot?
[14:59] <diddledan_> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/winetricks/+bug/1574681
[15:00] <diddledan_> silly bot
[15:01] <diplo> Its definitely better TwistedLucidity, I record it though and skip lots now adays
[15:01] <diplo> Not sure if that's down to a busier life/kids though or just that it's boring at times
[15:01] <diplo> A lot of tracks are follow the leader which annoys me! China was great last week though
[15:02] <diddledan_> I missed it
[15:02] <diddledan_> wonder if ch4 has it on chatchup
[15:02] <diplo> Defo worth a watch
[15:02] <diplo> Used to be 40D ?
[15:02] <diddledan_> aye, 4OD now All4
[15:02] <diplo> Didn't have lvie anyhoo, it will be highlights I guess
[15:04] <foobarry> diplo: i'm a highlights man now
[15:04] <foobarry> children have made my life too busy to watch 2hrs of F1
[15:04] <foobarry> because i have to squeeze in a lot of TV in the evening
[15:05] <foobarry> fixed my elasticsearch but struggling to delete a load of indices
[15:13] <diplo> foobarry: I think that is part of it for me, I used to watch it live, I now record it and watch it when kids are in bed or outside playing
[19:02] <davmor2> just incase people forgot about it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xs3BXVTF7mw still blows me away at how many musicians it take to replicate a synth/computer :)
[19:04] <zmoylan-pi> i coulld get a c64 with a sid chip... https://twitter.com/angryearthling/status/724651437096075264/photo/1
[20:35] <Azelphur> Anyone know a place to get good, cheap Micro USB Cables? Ideally 3 metres, Fabric, 28/24AWG? I bought some off CPC and they only carried a 0.4A charge so returned them.
[20:38] <Myrtti> dunno about AWG, but
[20:38] <Myrtti> http://www.wooke.co.uk/Micro_USB_Cable_-_Fantasy_3M98FT_ChargeOriginal_Charge_and_Sync/p2013229_13392731.aspx
[20:38] <Azelphur> £12? you lost the cheap part too :P
[20:39] <Myrtti> I concentrated on the 'good'
[20:39] <Azelphur> heck, Volutz o a pack of 5 3M cables, fabric, and 28/24AWG they are £17.98 :)
[20:39] <Azelphur> Volutz do a pack*
[20:39] <Myrtti> I've got a habit of breaking USB cables, and I've had that cable from kickstarter for a good while now
[20:39] <Myrtti> and they still work, in comparison to breaking it after two months
[20:40] <Azelphur> yea I don't tend to break them, just want one that carries a decent charge
[20:40] <Azelphur> I know Monoprice does great 28/24AWG cables for $1.62, but shipping to UK is $40 -_-
[20:50] <daftykins> what's the use-case? a friend brought over a cheap microUSB of a few feet and it seems to struggle to keep an xbox one controller running
[21:01] <Azelphur> daftykins: charging phones and such
[21:03] <daftykins> why long? that's the exact situation you don't want to be pushing distance really
[21:03] <daftykins> diddledan_: haha just had one of my own disks go now ;) diagnosed it from slow to skip music tracks... oof!
[21:03] <Azelphur> daftykins: just usb cables to go near the sofa, so you can still use your phone while it's charging, I have 3M Cables that do 2A
[21:03] <Myrtti> daftykins: I use my three meter one in the bed, it's just nicer. It's also handy when traveling
[21:04] <daftykins> you people are insane :)
[21:04] <Myrtti> daftykins: *shrug* saved us on the California honeymoon several times
[21:04] <Azelphur> think I might have found a winner, https://www.amazon.co.uk/ULTRICS%C2%AE-Premium-shielding-Charging-Android/dp/B017O8TKR4
[21:05] <Azelphur> £10 for a pack of 5, tested to sustain over 2.5A, 24 AWG, not fabric but can't have everything ;)
[21:05] <Myrtti> charger had a three meter cable and we plugged the three meter USB on it on top, worked wonders when the hotel room had one socket in the hallway.
[21:05] <Azelphur> I love my USB cable tester, allows me to filter out the bad from the good :)
[21:06] <daftykins> that's some pretty niche usage right thar
[21:18] <Azelphur> in other news, I've been having so much fun with AliExpress, can pick up so many silly little gadgets and only end up spending a tenner