[11:48] <cmaloney> morning
[11:49] <_stink_> yo
[11:57] <cmaloney> 'sup?
[12:27] <mrgoodcat> morning
[15:03] <wolfger> cmaloney: Telegram?
[15:08] <cmaloney> wolfger: Context?
[15:08] <wolfger> You made a change to Michigan Team on the wiki?
[15:09] <cmaloney> Yeah
[15:09] <cmaloney> gamerchick02 started up a Telegram chat
[15:09] <cmaloney> It's some service that people who are on their phone a lot use. :)
[15:09] <wolfger> I have no idea what that is
[15:09] <wolfger> ah, ok
[15:09] <cmaloney> She wanted to start it up, so she did. :)
[15:09] <wolfger> a very FOSS concept!
[15:10] <jrwren> yay!
[15:10] <cmaloney> On very non-FOSS software. :)
[15:10] <cmaloney> but that's a nother topid
[15:10] <cmaloney> topic
[15:10] <jrwren> telegram is nice. i wish it were a bit more open source, but its nicer than others.
[15:10] <jrwren> cmaloney: exactly.
[15:10] <jrwren> cmaloney: could be worse, it could be slack ;]
[15:10] <cmaloney> PyOhio moved to slack
[15:10] <wolfger> What's wrong with Slackware?
[15:11] <cmaloney> I don't mind slack, but it has an "always on" problem.
[15:12] <jrwren> slack is a stupid web chat. slackware is a linux distro. nothing wrong with slackware other than its not ubuntu
[15:12] <cmaloney> jrwren: And Gartner...
[15:13] <cmaloney> (still looking for something nice to say)
[15:13] <jrwren> cmaloney: the only nice thing I can say is: it was a good keynote
[15:13] <jrwren> oh, I can also say that Strength Finder 2.0 is fun.
[15:14] <cmaloney> ?
[15:14] <jrwren> its a book... a book that comes with a test, and it is fun to get results, but the test is only good for 1 book copy
[15:14] <jrwren> so its a book sales scam because its less useful to lend the book or give the used book or check out as library book
[15:15] <cmaloney> So it's a personality test?
[15:15] <cmaloney> Discover your Top 5 Strengths or buy your Full 34 report.
[15:15] <cmaloney> Discover strengths today · Lead with your strengths
[15:15] <jrwren> right
[15:15] <jrwren> like I said, its fun.
[15:15] <jrwren> not particularly valuable or useful
[15:16] <cmaloney> Heh
[15:16] <cmaloney> Sounds about as accurate as a horoscope
[15:17] <jrwren> well, slightly more so.
[15:18] <cmaloney> "You are a natural leader, but you spend too much time on the internet"
[15:18] <cmaloney> "Focus on your key principles rather than your vague enfatuations"
[15:18] <cmaloney> "$5 please"
[15:19] <jrwren> I think its $40
[15:19] <cmaloney> I'm starting my business
[15:19] <jrwren> because its free with purchase of hte book
[15:20] <cmaloney> Using a specially crafted algorithm (3d6) to give people personalized strength, intellegence, wisdom, dexterity, constitution, and charisma readings.
[15:20] <jrwren> yup
[15:20] <cmaloney> Maybe I could go 4d6, drop the lowest for an extra $5.
[15:21]  * cmaloney needs to come up with some snake-oil to sell
[15:21] <jrwren> me too
[15:22] <jrwren> but that doesnt' sound fun.
[15:22] <jrwren> need to come up with something fun to sell.
[15:22] <cmaloney> Fun is hard
[15:22] <cmaloney> scamming people is easier.
[15:23] <jrwren> i think scamming people is hard.
[15:23] <cmaloney> Not in the business world
[15:24] <cmaloney> These are the same folks that spend $400 on a putter to shave off a stroke.
[15:24] <cmaloney> and $500 on a driver to have 10 yards.
[15:24] <cmaloney> shave
[15:24] <cmaloney> s/shave/increase their shitty stroke/
[15:25] <jrwren> ah, so you want to sell to the Apple Watch Edition buyers.
[15:25] <jrwren> lol
[15:26] <cmaloney> Exactly
[15:26] <cmaloney> Anyone who wants to spend $10K on a piece of gold-plated electronics is my target audience
[15:27] <jrwren> i don't understand their values well enough to sell to them.
[15:27] <cmaloney> I'm not looking for Suzy Sufficient or Johnny Goodenuff; I want Kanye West.
[15:28] <cmaloney> I want the dude that spends $10K on a tube amp
[15:28] <cmaloney> More importantly I want toe dude who sspends $10K on ferrite cores to put in their listening room
[15:30] <jrwren> lol
[21:20] <Scary_Guy> Telegram has security issues though, I've switched to Silence (Formerly #SMSSecure )
[21:21] <cmaloney> Sadly I think most of these have flaws that have yet to be exposed
[21:21] <cmaloney> The most obvious is having their data stored in a data center.
[21:22] <Scary_Guy> yeah, that's why I like Silence.  you do a key exchange and there is no central server