[04:42] morning peeps [04:58] Maaz tell superfly time to wake up [04:58] Kilos: Okay, I'll tell superfly on freenode [05:24] hi Private_User hows things there [05:38] hey Kilos, things are still the same but all good, your side? [05:41] yeah fine thanks [05:41] you still on the cane farm? [05:41] yep but we might be moving to a resedential area soon [05:42] ok [05:42] gonna miss the privacy and space [05:42] yeah [05:42] yeah [05:42] so will have to start dealing with nosy neighbours [05:42] hehe [05:42] painful [05:43] going to tongaat? [05:43] yep [05:43] good luck [05:43] you might get great neighbours [05:44] thanks will be an ajustment cause even the house is a bit smaller in square meters but maybe now I will be able to get broadband installed [05:45] yeah [05:45] lets hope hey neighbours can become very nosy sometimes [05:45] if you get enough peeps together you can get ftth [05:45] I would love that not sure if Telkom has deployed lines there yet [05:49] just realized I will also be missing the sea view we have [05:49] :( [05:50] but at least we will not be too far off just a quick drive away [05:59] ok [05:59] wbb [06:10] mornings [06:10] hi thatgraemeguy [06:12] hi Kilos, thatgraemeguy [06:12] hi theblazehen [06:18] hi Cryterion [06:21] hi Cryterion [06:28] morning all [06:28] hi chesedo [06:30] good morning [06:30] hi chesedo, magespawn [06:36] hey theblazehen, whats up? [06:36] hi magespawn [06:37] all prices up [06:37] and fuel going up again [06:38] try find accomadation near to where you gonna work [06:38] accommodation [06:38] ai! [06:38] Maaz spell accomodation [06:38] Kilos: Suggestions: Accommodation or accommodation [06:39] sjoe that dont look right either [06:39] Kilos: has to be close anyway, do not really want to deal with rush hour too much [06:39] need to wash my glasses or my eyes [06:39] that place is a mad house [06:39] i would try the glasses first [06:39] lol [06:40] not much and you magespawn? [06:53] Mornings [06:57] hi mazal [06:57] Om Kilos , I forgot my iso at home , so waon't have feedback on how it works with a install yet [06:57] won't [06:58] ok [06:58] hi klaasvakie [06:58] Talking about mu cutom systemback iso btw. Want to use it to do my work pc [06:58] my* [06:58] yeds i remember [06:58] That's where the real test comes , if it can install [06:58] more is nog n dag [06:59] does it make an iso with checksum [06:59] môre almal [06:59] so I installed 16.04 and trying the new unity [06:59] and? you like [07:00] so it looks like it grabs the "windows" key automatically [07:00] lol [07:00] it has another name in ubuntu [07:00] if i'm in virtualbox (fullscreen) mode and I press the "windows" key, I key the windows start menu and the unity HUD at the same time [07:00] i cant remember what [07:01] pretty irritating [07:01] file a bug report so they can fix it [07:01] still many bugs [07:01] hallo klaasvakie... welkom by ons channel en hou asb net jou slaap stof tuis :P [07:01] hahaha [07:02] otherwise it needs heavy use of compiz-tweak tool to turn into a usable desktop (for me of course) [07:02] hi zipper [07:02] i cannot believe they took away middle-click paste [07:02] Hi klaasvakie [07:03] How is unity's speed and stability now ? [07:03] maybe you can add it [07:03] hi mazal [07:03] wbb [07:03] be good [07:03] Kilos, yes you have to do some gesettings wizardry to get it back [07:03] Maaz watch them [07:03] oh Kilos I will watch them no problem, but you better be back soon! [07:03] mazal, it seems stable, uses a lot of ram though [07:04] 2.7Gb with the desktop up and my mail client open [07:04] a bit excessive I think [07:04] I almost went with it, but decided to go K again [07:04] Yeah that's a lot ! [07:04] Wow, more ram than low end computers have. Even windows 10 uses less [07:05] I usually use windowmaker as my WM, but I tried for a couple of hours to get unity-settings-daemon to do its magic inside another WM and then gave up [07:05] there was to be an issue somewhere, Unity uses around 500Mb RAM [07:06] the screen scaling in unity is GREAT though, i have a 13" laptop with a 4K display, so it is very necessary [07:06] I think that's the only reason I am putting up with it [07:07] Wow. And I thought my 4k at 27" had a high dpi [07:07] previously I had to go and apply font/size settings seperatly to each app, now just one slider in one place --- fantastic [07:08] I really wish unity allowed the removal of the top bar though [07:08] it is so ugly, and it steals my precious vertical screen space [07:24] theblazehen: same old, same old, starting a new job in jhb towards the end of next month [07:25] magespawn: Sounds fun! === klaasvakie_ is now known as klaasvakie [07:42] Hey Kilos , how are you today? [07:42] hi pavlushka ok ty and you [07:42] Kilos: better, :) [07:43] hey pavlushka [07:43] theblazehen: Hello! o/ [07:44] Lo pavlushka [07:44] mazal: Hi How are you? [07:44] theblazehen: How are you? === klaasvakie_ is now known as klaasvakie [07:44] Pretty good and you pavlushka? [07:45] me great theblazehen ! :) [07:45] pavlushka: no comment [07:45] good to hear pavlushka! [07:46] mazal: ??? [07:46] mazal: That sucks.. Hope things get better soon! [07:46] * pavlushka that was a no comment, :p [07:47] pavlushka: Friend of mine says I must not say negative things , so I can't say the truth and can't lie either and say it's going good , so now I revert to no comment. [07:47] Morning theblazehen [07:47] mazal: What's up? If you need to chat, feel free [07:47] hey mazal [07:48] mazal: getting close, :p [07:48] getting close ? [07:48] mazal: to what you have just said, though has a point, :p [07:49] magespawn: you around ? [07:50] mazal: looks like you are having a not nice morning! is it work? [07:51] Can't talk about it pavlushka , ppl don't like it [07:51] Okay, got it mazal , :p [08:00] Oh man , keep putting wrong month number in every date today :P [08:00] This is supposed to only happen in January [08:06] Ok , so before I do a new install tomorrow , what does the experts say. 16gig pc , must I create a swap partition or not ? [08:07] mazal: Maybe a 1 or 2 GB [08:07] Let it cache unused applications to disk so it can cache some files [08:09] K [08:10] I have never seen my current swap being used so was wondering if it is really neccesary with so much ram available [08:10] Will just make a 4gig one , that be ok ? [08:10] Not even a few KB or MB? [08:10] That's more than enough [08:10] k thanx [08:10] If all goes well this work pc must be done tomorrow [08:11] cool [08:14] mazal, is it an SSD or not? I usually don't create swap on SSDs if I can help it [08:14] klaasvakie: SSDs are more durable than you think [08:14] theblazehen, I've had too many fail on me [08:15] http://ssdendurancetest.com/ [08:15] If i'm doing something really memory intensice, I just create a swapfile on the fly. [08:16] dd if=/dev/zero of=bla.swap bs=1M count=8192; mkswap bla.swap; swapon bla.swap [08:16] Or create it, and set swappiness to not write to it unless needed [08:16] fallocate -l 2G /swapfile [08:16] klaasvakie: nope , this one will be a normal hdd [08:16] Does a spare file, no need to waste the writes on it [08:17] sparse* [08:18] Gonna miss my 14.04 though. Prefer this desktop look to 16.04 [08:18] But one must go forward [08:18] mazal, then I would do a swapfile [08:18] copy that [08:19] mazal: with half my attention yes [08:19] theblazehen, didn't know about the fallocate trick [08:19] I like it [08:19] Must just remember to bring the iso with tomorrow :P [08:20] magespawn: I plan on doing a fresh install tomorrow with that custom systemback iso of mine. Will then see how good it really is and give feedback. The real test is in a install [08:21] yes indeed, are the machines similar in specs? [08:21] Hi magespawn ! [08:21] Pretty much , one big issue might occur though. It has differen screen cards [08:21] remastersys could never deal with that , will see what this one does [08:22] If it works , I will be impressed [08:25] * pavlushka me too! [08:26] What a bargain if it does though. Will have all apps , updates built-in already , and all my personal configs build-in as well. Will literally not have to do a thing after install. Ecept put back backups [08:27] except* [08:30] * mazal asem in asem uit [08:31] mazal, you can upgrade from 14.04.4 LTS to 16.04 (not LTS yet) by typing "do-release-upgrade -d" [08:31] pavlushka: I prefer fresh install [08:32] * pavlushka nods to your preference, that was just an opinion, :) [08:35] * theblazehen almost never does a fresh install :) Unless I break my OS and fixing it will take too long [08:36] I actually want to try that once , but I am scared jumping somany versions will break stuff [08:37] I know for a fact that some of my apps has been descontinued [08:37] Have a few that I can't install anymore [08:38] But I really do need to look into that sometime , maybe from 16.04 then from there upgrade to 16.10 etc. [08:40] I should probably also say that I'm using arch. But I did it with mint before without any problems [08:40] wbb [08:41] Yeah !!! Finally after 4 weeks I might have hot water again :) Just got a phonecall the technitians comes tomorrow :) Now would that be great ! [08:41] \o/ [08:42] 4 weeks of no hot water is no joke believe me [09:00] mazal: have you suffered most from the showers or coffee? :P [09:01] The 2 worst things was bathing and washing dishes. 2 everyday things that becomes a big issue suddenly [09:02] ouch for the bathing [09:02] mazal: were you at least able to heat water in the kettle? [09:02] superfly: By the way, Kilos on freenode told me "tell superfly time to wake up" 4 hours, 4 minutes and 1 second ago [09:03] I literally had to plan every day so that I am able to shower at 1pm when day is at it's hottest. During the cold spells we had and when I missed my window I had to drive to friends to bath [09:03] Maaz: tell Kilos too late [09:03] superfly: Got it, I'll tell Kilos on freenode [09:03] Hi superfly [09:04] superfly: yes , kettle worked so coffee was sorted :) [09:04] But completely useless for bath , takes too long too boil. By the time I have enough water it is cold already [09:04] I wished I had one of those big urns [09:05] so, one of my dad's friends, when they were students (and this friend was studying electrical engineering) didn't have hot water in his shower, so he hooked a kettle up under the spout... [09:07] claps! [09:07] So maybe by the end of this month all the broken stuff that started in Feb might finally be sorted [09:09] mazal: look out for the fixed stuffs that might have started breaking again, :p [09:09] Ok back to work. Backups done , standard iso downloaded if custom fails , build dock up to date. It be ready I think [09:10] pavlushka: very true [09:33] hey Private_User [09:37] hey theblazehen, long time no chat [09:37] Yeah Private_User :) How are you? [09:37] hows it going? [09:37] Pretty good and you? [09:38] not too bad hey [09:39] Good to hear. [12:31] sup all [12:32] hey nlsthzn [12:32] How's things going? [12:33] hey theblazehen ... all right (under the circumstances... due to the oil price the companies over here are starting retrenching shenanigans) :/ [12:33] how about you? [12:34] I'm doing alright thanks [12:35] good to hear :) [13:56] Maaz were they good [13:56] Kilos: What? [13:56] Kilos: By the way, superfly on freenode told me "tell Kilos too late" 4 hours, 53 minutes and 38 seconds ago [13:57] aw what did i miss superfly [13:57] afternoon all [14:06] hey Kilos [14:06] hi magespawn [14:07] ian hijacked my modem for the day to teamview and fix clients scanners and pcs [14:08] okay [14:08] get him to buy 2x the data he uses [14:11] lol [14:11] he has left already [14:11] he often helps me with data so all good === jellie is now known as zipper [15:05] o/ uncle Kilos ... guess who is still hanging around :p [15:12] Hi nlsthzn [15:12] hey mazal , when I first saw the name I was thinking Maaz and was scared the bot had become self-aware or something :p [15:12] how are you? [15:13] hehehe , ok and you ? [15:26] fine thanks [15:46] chat later all [17:37] nlsthzn who/ [17:37] sorry i crashed [17:37] eh? [17:37] mazal looked like maaz :p [17:37] [17:05] o/ uncle Kilos ... guess who is still hanging around [17:37] oh [17:37] oh... [17:38] I am still here :p [17:38] oh you talking about you [17:38] :D [17:42] yup [17:43] hello [17:43] hi kulelu88 [17:44] how do I register my username/password on hexchat? [17:44] pavlushka ^^ [17:44] am I showing as a registered user? [17:44] no [17:44] I remember getting cloaked by freenode [17:45] you need to find freenode tick it then tick edit [17:45] kulelu88: you are not cloaked right now [17:45] and put in your password twice i think [17:46] especially server password [17:46] kulelu88: can you remember your password? [17:46] i'm copy pasting it from xchat [17:46] then you cloak before joining channels [17:46] what is the setting? sasl? [17:46] kulelu88: ssl [17:46] in hexchat... make sure your username is the one you have cloaked and on server settings set the password [17:47] server settings for freenode [17:47] what's the login method? [17:47] don't touch any of the hexchat settings and you are good to go [17:47] file- server list [17:47] * nlsthzn goes back to youtube [17:47] batmetal waits [17:47] what you watching nlsthzn [17:48] but what is the login method? I did everything you guys said [17:48] sasl [17:48] sasl (username+password) [17:48] the default [17:49] kulelu88: my bad [17:49] just make sure the username you log in with is the one that is cloaked [17:49] * nlsthzn is just reading from his settings... which is the default and works :p [17:49] oh no wonder it's not working, I can't extract the password from xchat [17:50] makes sense... copying **** gives you **** :p [17:50] lol [17:50] now I can't recall my password [17:50] it's saved somewhere [17:51] you can go to #freenode and ask staff to mail you a password change email [17:51] I forgot which email I registered it on as well [17:52] lol [17:52] how do I check? [17:52] go there and as staff [17:52] they will tell you [17:54] hopefully [17:58] there you go [17:58] Apparently we need to wait to send messages to the freenode channel [17:58] im on xchat [17:58] oh [17:58] trying to move to hexchat, cause this 1 isnt supported anymore [18:00] inetpro ping [18:00] oh im early [18:00] * Kilos waves to superfly [18:02] Maaz announce Monthly meeting here tomorrow night at 20.30 [18:02] Announcement from Kilos! Monthly meeting here tomorrow night at 20.30 [18:10] . [18:11] which one is which now [18:11] . [18:12] okay I found the password, but it's not registering auto when I login [18:12] is there only one place for password [18:12] make new cloak :pp [18:13] oh wait [18:13] never mind [18:13] you can see that i'm cloaked after sending a nickserv message [18:13] no [18:14] there is no changing host message [18:14] kulelu88: yes you are cloaked! [18:14] i'm cloaked now [18:14] you put it in hexchat -> network list -> edit (server) -> password [18:14] hi Cryterion [18:14] which boxes do you guys have ticked? [18:14] hi [18:15] * Cryterion needs a new router [18:15] ai! [18:15] connect auto / use global user info / loginwmthod sasl (username and password) [18:15] kulelu88: the manual login method is "/msg nickserv identify password" [18:15] add password the password field [18:15] profit [18:15] can someone send me a screenshot of the top part of their settings? [18:15] kulelu88, see previous message [18:16] how to send screenshot? [18:16] * nlsthzn fails at internet [18:16] I have screenshot [18:16] use the screenshot tool > select region > take screenshot [18:16] upload to secure file-sharing service [18:16] nlsthzn, my router fails at internet, grrr [18:16] *sigh* [18:16] with destroy option [18:17] why Cryterion [18:17] reset [18:17] old router, the good one blew up [18:17] oh my [18:17] electrical storm, close lighting, router died [18:17] https://www.dropbox.com/s/cjs0qjsuzhvt4t9/Screenshot%20from%202016-04-25%2022-15-59.png?dl=0 [18:17] maybe the SSL thing is the issue [18:17] so using an older one that has problems [18:18] Cryterion, you need to buy a plug adapter with surge protectionm [18:18] * nlsthzn might have copied the link as his new password as dialogue was open when I tried to paste it here >.< [18:19] sorry to hear Cryterion [18:19] kulelu88 with ssl you must use another port [18:20] i think the issue is the server I am joining [18:20] sending a password over http is insane [18:20] freenode? [18:21] use port 7070 [18:21] Cryterion: then the old one is the good one, :p [18:22] whew im even more tired after this afternoons sleep [18:22] Kilos: can you find out the exact server and port I should use for SSL? [18:22] Kilos: not a problem, just chill, dont take the load, :) [18:22] i use 7070 and let client choose own server [18:23] is anybody using ubuntu >14.04 ? [18:23] that doesn't make sense Kilos . which server is in the settings? [18:23] oh [18:23] chat.freenode.net [18:24] but for ssl that port 6667 doesnt work [18:24] chat.freenode.net/7070 ? [18:24] ya [18:24] ja, that's an http port [18:24] let me try that [18:24] brb [18:25] wait, before i do that [18:25] lol [18:25] do you have "use SSL for all servers..." ticked? Kilos [18:25] i dont tick extra trhings [18:26] default settings as much as possible [18:26] so the only tick you have is "use global user information" ? [18:27] im on konversation so dont see same things as you [18:27] Kilos: you can have another look, http://imgur.com/a/IbvUW [18:27] mine shows one ssl block i tick that and change port number [18:28] screenshot? Kilos [18:29] kulelu88, you saw my screenshot? [18:29] I posted earlier? [18:29] yep, you can remove it nlsthzn [18:29] from your dropbox [18:29] i dont even tick the skip network list on startup [18:29] * nlsthzn goes back to \m/ [18:30] kulelu88 nlsthzn pavlushka use http://pasteboard.co for screenshots [18:30] its in the topic bar [18:30] no don't use that [18:30] Kilos: alrighty! [18:30] * nlsthzn uses what he has ... works as well :p [18:30] why [18:31] haha [18:31] it's http [18:32] oh the bin [18:32] Kilos: Wow http://pasteboard.co is smooth as pie [18:32] maybe this might be better: https://www.file.io/ [18:32] yes its superfly s [18:32] Kilos: which one? [18:33] those in topic bar [18:33] the bin and the pasteboard [18:33] we need to get superfly a free SSL cert [18:33] maybe pasteboard isnt [18:33] pro put it there [18:34] Kilos: copy, :0 [18:34] . [18:34] hello inetpro [18:35] where is your pong [18:35] I sent a link to get dropbox to ubuntu mailing list once by mistake and because so many used it I have more than 16gb free storage >.< [18:35] What do you mean? I already have one. [18:35] in fact, http should redirect you to https [18:35] lol [18:35] Kilos: you may want to see this http://pasteboard.co/skps8fH.png, :p [18:36]