[00:00] <Defiance_> what color?
[00:00] <kyleR> Hello, after installing Ubuntu 16.04 my laptop's touchpad power button no longer works (meaning I can no longer use it to disable my touchpad when I'm not using it), it worked in 14.04, how can i fix this?
[00:00] <Harry-GAA001> When I use mysql -u root, I just get the error saying I can't connect to local MySQL through socket etc... just as above
[00:02] <_44trent3> hey uh, i'm having an issue. Whenever I try to open steam nothing happens...when I try from the terminal it gives me a libgl error:unable to load driver radeonsi_dri.so
[00:03] <_44trent3> does anyone know what the heck that means?
[00:03] <_44trent3> i'll make a paste of it, actually
[00:03] <_44trent3> http://paste.ubuntu.com/16042489/
[00:04] <_44trent3> i'm on the open source driver, by the way
[00:06] <wafflej0ck> Harry-GAA001, looks like this is a change from the previous version of mysqld I just tried here able to reproduce what you're seeing but not sure why the mysqld process isn't able to run so I end up with no /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock file when trying to run that directly and don't see it in the process list, nothing obvious about why it didn't start yet though
[00:07] <wafflej0ck> Harry-GAA001, reading up here https://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.7/en/server-management-using-systemd.html
[00:08] <edson> boa noite a todos
[00:08] <Harry-GAA001> I'm reading it too :)
[00:09] <herpderphurr> _44trent3: I only have a guess, but do you have the "libgl1-mesa-dri" driver installed?
[00:09] <herpderphurr> _44trent3: correction. that package is not a driver. It is a package. :p
[00:09] <_44trent3> well I do have the open source driver
[00:09] <_44trent3> i've thought about getting crimson, but isn't there some issues with using the AMD supplied installer?
[00:10] <_44trent3> i could test it in a VM I guess...
[00:10] <MJBrune> Hey all, I have a lenovo yoga 2 2-in-1 (tablet and laptop) is it possible to install Ubuntu Touch or Tablet on it?
[00:12] <_44trent3> i've never had very good experience with AMD drivers, open source or proprietary
[00:12] <_44trent3> 3 years ago, I installed Ubuntu 12.04 on my HP laptop, and it turnt out it had just recently dropped support for fglrx-legacy or whatever...
[00:12] <squinty> MJBrune, #ubuntu-touch is the channel for Ubuntu touch
[00:13] <_44trent3> which meant even though everything ran awful in the open source one, I dealt with it and to this day I'm pretty sure Minecraft can't even run on it
[00:13] <_44trent3> but my main rig shouldn't have some weird issue like that, so i'm not concerned
[00:13] <Monticello9> anyone know their FreeDoom game? I am having trouble.
[00:14] <shanemikel> congrats everybody on LTS
[00:14] <dbarros> bekks: are you there?
[00:15] <herpderphurr> _44trent3: Try querying the status of the libgl1-mesa-dri package on your system. Use dpkg-query like so: `dpkg-query --status libgl1-mesa-dri`
[00:15] <herpderphurr> If the package is installed, there should be a line starting with "Status" and then telling you whether it's installed or not.
[00:16] <herpderphurr> the radeonsi_dri.so file is packaged inside that particular package, so if the package is not installed, then that library will definitely not be found by steam.
[00:16] <dbarros> bekks, sorry it took long for me to reply. the actual issue is that i want to log the URL activity in /var/tmp from firefox, and what happens is that I set that config using the CustomGuestAccount instructions (using a normal standard account to set defaults), but then I am not able to log anything if I log as a guest-XXXXX...
[00:17] <edson> ..
[00:17] <_44trent3> the status is "install ok installed"
[00:18] <herpderphurr> Ah, okay. I'm not sure what's up there then... Just so that I can leave a lesson here: I used apt-file to search for which package the "radeonsi_dri.so" file was packaged in. Once I found the package, I used dpkg-query --status to check the status of the package.
[00:18] <dewey5674> Any chance someone knows of a way to get a "shutdown" option from Docky?  I'm Running the latest Xubuntu LTS, if that helps.
[00:19] <jajaja> TJ-: finally works, I had to mark disk as dirty in order to be able to run chkdsk properly, otherwise it just didnt started
[00:19] <jajaja> TJ-: thank you
[00:20] <Harry-GAA001> I have just checked the apache log file as before and I get an error saying "script '/var/www/html/index.php' not found or unable to start"
[00:22] <dewey5674> NM. Got it.
[00:25] <_44trent3> uh, well i'm going to try and see if installating crimson will work, from a virtual machine so I don't break anything
[00:25] <_44trent3> for some reason youtube is giving me a black screen with no video, but sound
[00:25] <_44trent3> and i suspect it's my driver
[00:25] <_44trent3> everything else works fine, but H.264 decoding is...kinda broken
[00:27] <sabbatical> Hello everybody... I'm having problem with some repos when typing "apt-get update". Anybody can help me with this? The output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16042689/
[00:29] <wafflej0ck> Harry-GAA001, /var/www/html is just the base directory by default on apache 2.4+ index.php is a file it will look for if someone just tries to fetch a page from the server, nothing to worry about there
[00:30] <elk> which are the differences between apt and apt-get?
[00:30] <wafflej0ck> Harry-GAA001, so I figured out how to modify the systemd service file that starts mysqld so it will do the skip-grant part, but going to see if it will work from an override file since what I did isn't the recommended way to do this
[00:31] <Harry-GAA001> ok, I bow to your brilliance. You've already way surpassed my pathetic knowledge of this :P
[00:35] <wafflej0ck> Harry-GAA001, no need for the bowing just stumbling my way through this too :) sorry was misleading you some earlier that has always worked in the past when I had to do this, systemd is new for me
[00:37] <militantpotato> Hello, I'm currently experiencing display corruption and crash at the login screen due to my AMD 390 not playing well with 16.04. here is my xorg.log, http://pastebin.com/3a4ffmYf .   Also, when I boot with nomodeset it shows my monitor as needing 80hz, but it's max is 60.
[00:37] <militantpotato> The 80hz shows in system settings, sorry.
[00:41] <wafflej0ck> Harry-GAA001, okay figured it out
[00:41] <Harry-GAA001> I appreciate the support and thankful you're still trying to help me :)
[00:41] <wafflej0ck> Harry-GAA001, no problem I have to learn this stuff anyhow I use it all for work too :), let me get the commands together in a pastebin for you
[00:41] <Harry-GAA001> Excited :)
[00:42] <anonymous_> hi
[00:42] <anonymous_> hi
[00:43] <Harry-GAA001_> Ok it's easier if I chat and type from the same laptop I'm working on :)
[00:43] <user__> Hellow guys, what are the video drivers I should install for Ubuntu 16.04 LTS?
[00:43] <anonymous_> hi
[00:44] <wafflej0ck> Harry-GAA001_, http://paste.ubuntu.com/16042824/
[00:44] <anonymous_> hi guys techrax
[00:45] <wafflej0ck> Harry-GAA001_, the blank ExecStart there is actually needed otherwise it errors out
[00:46] <DirtyCajun> so nothign that i try to install out of the ubuntu software center will install. it just sits "waiting to install". any ideas?
[00:46] <DirtyCajun> 16.04?
[00:47] <Bashing-om> user__: Intel, ATI .. none .. open source does it .. Nvidia : depemds on the card .. else ??????
[00:47] <reisio> user__: the defaults are ordinarily fine
[00:47] <user__> Bashing-om: I have a Intel Family 4000 card
[00:47] <Harry-GAA001_> You sir are a gentleman and a scholar!! It worked brilliantly :)
[00:48] <Bashing-om> user__: Then Intel provides . There is nothing else you should have to do .
[00:48] <wafflej0ck> Harry-GAA001_, sweet glad to hear it
[00:48] <user__> Bashing-om: how can I know why do I have FPS lag when playing Dota2?
[00:48] <Harry-GAA001_> wafflej0ck_, not sure how to get a message to you like you're doing but thank you very much. I've spent four days trying to figure it out myself :/
[00:49] <Bashing-om> user__: Depends on the card .. maybe Intel is weak ?? Others with Intel experience can advise better .
[00:52] <zjhxmjl> hi,guys!who can help me about install driver for GTX 750 ti on ubuntu 14.04(32bit) server
[00:52] <user__> Bashing-om: do you know a channel where they talked only about this matters?
[00:53] <zjhxmjl> i follow this guide but not succeed http://askubuntu.com/questions/425140/unable-toboot-with-nvidia-gtx-750-ti-even-with-latest-beta-drivers
[00:54] <Harry-GAA001_> Right, I need to head off as it's 2am now and i've work at 8 :P
[00:54] <Harry-GAA001_> Wafflejock, thank you really for the support :)
[00:54] <wafflej0ck> cool have a good night Harry-GAA001_ no problem on the help
[01:02] <Bashing-om> user__: Hang in here and rephrase your question to gain Intel driver user's attentions .
[01:03] <user__> Bashing-om: thanks, Ill do that!
[01:04] <user__> Hellow guys I have an Intel Family 4000 HD video card and I run Ubuntu 16.04 LTS. The thing is after upgrading to 16.04 LTS I started having FPS lag when playing Dota2. Can anyone help me to figure out what is the problem?
[01:13] <_44trent3> oh dear
[01:13] <_44trent3> uhm, do any of the AMD proprietary drivers  even work on 16.04?
[01:14] <Bashing-om> _44trent3: Nope .. do not exist .Tead the release notes for the info .
[01:14] <_44trent3> oh no...
[01:14] <Bashing-om> tead/read*
[01:15] <TJ-> _44trent3: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes#Graphics_and_Display
[01:17] <_44trent3> i'm guessing crimson is also considered fglrx?
[01:22] <anderson_> o.o
[01:22] <romare> hey I'm dualbooting linux and windows. I wanted to know if I can simply format the disk where linux is installed to just to be over with it? is it the normal way to do it?
[01:25] <wafflej0ck> romare, yeah if you reformat the drive you can use it for whatever you'll just lose access to the data on it
[01:26] <romare> wafflej0ck, will I see the GRUB on opening? and will it hurt my system? will it directly boot to windows?
[01:29] <wafflej0ck> romare, ah both on the same drive just had a separate partition for linux? can't say I've done that before the BIOS needs to point to the right disk and that disk needs to be flagged bootable, but in most cases I just intalled Ubuntu on it's own disk or kept it around and just removed windows and then reset grub
[01:29] <Keanne> anyone running 16.04 on a laptop Intel Corporation Wireless 7265 (iwlwifi)
[01:30] <TJ-> romare: if it's booting using BIOS/MBR and GRUB is managing the disk, if you delete the Linux partition you'll wipe out GRUB so the disk will no longer boot, you'll get stuck at the GRUB rescue prompt
[01:30] <TJ-> Keanne: mee, ooo ooo me :)
[01:30] <wafflej0ck> romare, do you have a windows recovery disk by chance? depending on the version of Windows you should be able to follow instructions like this http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/32523/how-to-manually-repair-windows-7-boot-loader-problems/ to restore the windows boot loader if it doesn't work
[01:31] <Keanne> TJ-, been meaning to migrate to 16.04 but its very very flaky. sometimes it will work, after reloading the iwlwifi module, or using the iwconfig command, but its horribly inconsistent. im talking about running in usb though as i have not installed it yet. is it same to you?
[01:32] <TJ-> Keanne: no, I have 16.04 installed on a USB flash key, and on the PCs. both are stable.
[01:33] <Keanne> TJ-, hmm.. this toshiba laptop is really a pain in the arse
[01:33] <TJ-> Keanne: if you're having issues running from the live ISO image on a USB flash device, that could indicate the image is corrupt on the USB
[01:34] <TJ-> Keanne: it's worth using the boot-time 'Check Disc for defects' option, or else calculating the SHA hash of the bytes that make up the ISO image, and comparing with the expected hash as published on the download pages
[01:35] <TJ-> Keanne: by 'bytes that make up the ISO image' I mean only reading from the USB the number of bytes the ISO uses, so the hashes should match.
[01:35] <Keanne> TJ-, hash matched, even tried with ubuntu mate. exactly the same thing. i am only thinking that the culprit is really the wireless chip.
[01:36] <TJ-> Keanne: Check the logs; /var/log/kern.log and /var/log/syslog
[01:36] <robertbellarmine> how do I check my version at the commandline?
[01:37] <_44trent3> is there any way at all to install fglrx? i don't care how complicated it is
[01:37] <TJ-> robertbellarmine: "cat /etc/issue"
[01:37] <robertbellarmine> TJ-, thanks
[01:37] <TJ-> _44trent3: in 16.04? No. The driver no longer supports the version of the X server
[01:38] <Keanne> robertbellarmine, you could also try "lsb_release -a"
[01:39] <_44trent3> stupid question TJ-: crimson is considered fglrx, right?
[01:41] <vnt> I think only AMD is considerd fglrx, incase no one answers. believe ubuntu forums has a how-to guide for swapping from fglrx to their new open source drivers.
[01:43] <OerHeks>  the proprietary AMD Catalyst (fglrx) driver has been temporarily removed the Ubuntu 16.04 LTS repositories, as it is not yet ported to X.Org Server 1.8. It will be added again as part of the first point release, Ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS.
[01:43] <OerHeks> http://news.softpedia.com/news/canonical-recommends-open-source-amdgpu-and-radeon-drivers-for-ubuntu-16-04-lts-501556.shtml
[01:44] <TJ-> OerHeks: Has AMD committed to updating fglrx to 1.8 now? last I heard they had said firmly they wouldn't
[01:44] <ubuntunewb1> Hi, I am running Ubuntu (Xubuntu 14.04) I don't have any drivers installed for the video card, as there is none in the list in "additional drivers",
[01:45] <ubuntunewb1> however, every time I change inputs on my TV, my resolution changes to the max (3800x2320) ??
[01:45] <ubuntunewb1> something like that, I would like it to stay at 1680x1050 permantently
[01:45] <OerHeks> TJ-, not sure, but this post gives hope.
[01:46] <Sachiru> Query: Can anyone link me an article on how to define custom DNS entries with dnsmasq? I'd like to do stuff like opening http://moviebox in a browser resolves to and opens hhttp://192.168.1.xx. I already have dnsmasq set up on my router.
[01:47] <TJ-> Oliver is the source for the point release quote, it seems. The only way that's possible is if the Xorg server 1.8 is patched to support the older interfaces too; somehow I can't imagine wanting to support for that in an LTS until 2021 at least
[01:47] <TJ-> Sachiru: make it simpler: add the entries to /etc/hosts. See "man 5 hosts"
[01:47] <ubuntunewb1> My conneciton is HDMI
[01:48] <ubuntunewb1> does anyone have any idead ?
[01:48] <_44trent3> hmm, well youtube videos don't work properly and my CPU usage is through the roof.
[01:48] <_44trent3> guess i'm gonna have to go to 15.10
[01:48] <Sachiru> TJ-: I wish to do this so that laptops and the occasional tablet on my home wifi can connect to the moviebox NAS
[01:48] <ubuntunewb1> even if I change inputs on the TV, when I go back to the PC, it changes back to the wrong resolution
[01:49] <TJ-> Sachiru: if you want it across your LAN you'll need to edit the config of the network's DNS server
[01:49] <TJ-> Sachiru: usually that'll be on a gateway/router, if its a home network
[01:49] <Sachiru> Yes. And the server is a dnsmasq daemon on my router.
[01:49] <Sachiru> I just need the syntax
[01:49] <TJ-> Sachiru: so you'll need to add an entry via the router's web interface, if it allows it. Does it use openwrt or dd-wrt or tomato?
[01:49] <Sachiru> I can ssh into the router, I just can't make heads or tails of the dnsmasq documentation so I'm asking if there's a tutorial or something similar.
[01:50] <braderhart> Anyone know how to fix an issue with Unity after installing an application and it not showing up in the search right away?
[01:50] <Sachiru> OpenWRT. I am comfortable with editing the .conf files by hand.
[01:50] <Sachiru> I just need the syntax.
[01:50] <TJ-> Sachiru: read "man dnsmasq"
[01:50] <Sachiru> The syntax of the entry.
[01:52] <jayvon> l
[01:52] <TJ-> Sachiru: looks like you wannt --host-record
[01:52] <Rooster> Hello
[01:53] <Rooster> Anyone here?
[01:53] <somsip> !ask | Rooster
[01:56] <russell> Hola
[01:58] <Rhorse> Guten tag!
[01:58] <lee_G750jm> Guten tag!
[01:59] <Guest60601> Hi. I have the Radeon black screen problem. lspci says I have two controllers, not sure why or whch one is live: 00:01.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] BeaverCreek [Radeon HD 6620G] [1002:9641] and 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Seymour [Radeon HD 6400M/7400M Series] [1002:6760]. Screen goes black on boot, after the grub screen. If I don’t touc
[01:59] <Guest60601> h my laptop for about ten minutes after booting, I can get the screen back and work as normal. This is a right pain of course, so I tried adding “nomodeset” to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT in the grub file, as has been suggested in other forums. This fixes the problem at the expense of a poor resolution setting. I get 1024x768 when it should be 1366x768. The other problem it causes is to make compiz suck cpu like mad. I also tr
[01:59] <Guest60601> ied GRUB_GFXMODE=1366x768 and GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINIX=keep, but these make no difference. Any tips for making this work better, either with nomodeset (keeping in mind the compiz problem), or preferably without? Thanks.
[02:00] <Guest60601> Forgot to say I'm running Ubuntu 16.04
[02:00] <xtr33> hi Rooster
[02:00] <TJ-> Guest60601: I'd remove all the workarounds, configure the PC to have openssh-server, make sure you can connect using ssh from another PC, then reboot it into the problem and use an ssh session to investigate the logs
[02:00] <TJ-> Guest60601: /var/log/kern.log, /var/log/Xorg.0.log for starters
[02:01] <TJ-> Guest60601: that will also allow you to try restarting the display manager with different configs, without rebooting, using "sudo systemctl restart lightdm.service"
[02:02] <virtuosoj> If I want to switch from Ubuntu Unity 16.04 to Fedora GNOME 23, but keep the same home folder, what config files do I have to delete to make sure Fedora's stock GNOME desktop isn't affected?
[02:02] <Rhorse> guest60601, have you already installed xserver-xorg-video-radeon driver?
[02:03] <foo> I am using nginx and I'm getting this: http://screencast.com/t/1lneFqqnxxlL - on chrome for iPhone app. Strange.
[02:04] <kela> Isn't that because you made your SSL certificate by yoruself
[02:04] <foo> kela: no. It's from godaddy, it works fine in every other browser
[02:05] <kela> What about the domain
[02:05] <foo> kela: What about it? Not sure I understand
[02:05] <PETsounds> Hi, on a clean install with secure boot, i cannot get broadcom WLAN to work. Pls help
[02:05] <kela> Does it completely match?
[02:05] <cynicallemon> virtuosoj, i would copy /home to another drive and just restore data back to the new home on fedora
[02:05] <foo> kela: oh, the cert? Yes
[02:05] <Guest60601> Rhorse, I don't think so.
[02:06] <Guest60601> TJ-, thanks, will investigate
[02:11] <Guest60601> Rhorse, thought the amdgpu driver was the only one supported in 16.04?
[02:11] <TJ-> kela: what does 'advanced' show? any more info on the error, or the cert being presented?
[02:11] <foo> TJ-: is that for me?
[02:12] <TJ-> foo: oh sorry, yes... not paying attention :D
[02:13] <jaiger> anyone here that can help with broken X window manager in LTS?
[02:14] <jaiger> seems my window manager got uninstalled... I've reinstalled ubuntu-desktop package but when I login I get a blank desktop - no panel, no window dressings etc
[02:14] <foo> TJ-: np. you attempted to reach [thedomain], but the server presented an invalid certificate.  when I clicked advanced. However, everything works fine on desktop chrome. I'm stumped
[02:15] <jaiger> I can manually launch the panel from a terminal but it doesn't persist to next login
[02:15] <jaiger> and I don't know where the window dressings are setup either
[02:16] <TJ-> foo: well, first off confirm the browser is seeing the certificate you assume it is - usually there should be a way to see that via advanced options. If it is correct, check the devices' CA certificate store, ensure it has the CA's root cert and all intermidiate certs. If it doesn't have the GoDaddy intermediate chain certs you'll need to configure your server to send the chain of certs, not just the domain's
[02:16] <TJ-> cert
[02:17] <foo> TJ-: I think it has to do with the chain certs, not too familiar with that but investigating now. Thank you
[02:17] <Guest60601> Rhorse, lshw -c video says driver=radeon. Is that the xorg driver?
[02:18] <TJ-> foo: this is a little old but it may still give the right info. https://www.onehub.com/blog/2009/09/17/using-godaddy-ssl-certificates-with-nginx/
[02:18] <foo> TJ-: eg. ssllabs says this: http://screencast.com/t/MDdhiB0nYFRt - is that what you're referring to?
[02:18] <foo> TJ-: ah, thank you for being helpul, I appreciate it
[02:19] <donofrio> anyone know how to upgrade from 12.10 ppc to current?
[02:19] <jajaja> when finished ubuntu instalation aside windows, should I point grub to the disk (sda) or to linux boot partition (sdx)?
[02:19] <xtr33> donofrio, I'd like to do that too
[02:20] <TJ-> foo: yes, GoDaddy should give you a link to the chain of intermediate certs too
[02:20] <OerHeks> 12.10 > 13.04 (eol) > 13.10 (eol) > 14.04 LTS >> 16.04 LTS .. backup data and reinstall is faster
[02:20] <TJ-> jajaja: to the disk that the PC BIOS will boot from
[02:20] <donofrio> OerHeks, I'm talking about the PowerPC arch
[02:20] <xtr33> donofrio, are you using a g4
[02:21] <donofrio> yes, and g5 but ibook g4 currently
[02:21] <donofrio> mac mini's everywhere - lol
[02:21] <jajaja> TJ-: that won't mess with windows bootloader?
[02:21] <OerHeks> donofrio, universal answer, ppc upgrading trough end-of-life versions *can* be done, but it takes a day this way
[02:21] <xtr33> lol, I've got an old g4 running, have wifi working on yours?
[02:22] <xtr33> OerHeks, do you have a link?
[02:22] <donofrio> xtr33, dunno yet just booted tried debian 8 but no sound and video way slow for kodi lol
[02:23] <TJ-> jajaja if Windows is on the same disk, then it'll replace it.
[02:23] <OerHeks> xtr33, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/16.04/release/
[02:23] <xtr33> donofrio, damn,  I got Ubuntu 12.04 running everything apart from the wifi, need to look that up at some stage
[02:23] <OerHeks> oh, that is server :-(
[02:23] <TJ-> jajaja: if you've got multiple disks and OSes installed on both, you can install GRUB to another disk, but when the PC boots you'll have to manually select the disk to boot from
[02:23] <xtr33> g4 1ghz ibook
[02:24] <donofrio> xtr33, I'm just rebooting into 12.04 cause my video was bad in 12.10
[02:24] <jajaja> TJ-: I saw tutorials where ppl instaled grub on the boot partition, then edited windows loader in order to see linux
[02:25] <TJ-> jajaja: for BIOS/MBR boots, only 1 boot manager can be in sector 0 of the disk, so whichever you choose has to handle all OSes on the disk
[02:25] <OerHeks> all i find is mate powerpc and lubuntu, no unity sofar
[02:26]  * OerHeks does not wonder
[02:26] <xtr33> donofrio, you should be good... The hardest thing about my install was driving to the shop to buy some blank cds
[02:26] <donofrio> xtr33, lol
[02:26] <TJ-> jajaja: if in doubt back-up the existing Windows boot sector and keep it on permanent media: "sudo dd if=/dev/sda bs=440 count=1 of=sda-mbr.bin" and then put sda-mbr.bin somewhere safe
[02:27] <donofrio> really hope i can disto upgrade to 16.10 and still have video working lol
[02:27] <xtr33> same here need to try the upgrade
[02:28] <xtr33> damn just realised I installed morphos on the g4
[02:28] <jajaja> TJ-: thanks (Y)
[02:29] <donofrio> xtr33, morphos?
[02:29] <xtr33> amiga ppc os
[02:29] <donofrio> lol
[02:30] <xtr33> morphos would be a keeper but it costs $EU111 euro
[02:32] <xtr33> One thing I dont like is lack of ppc programs available.
[02:33] <donofrio> xtr33, yah we gotta fix that multi arch is the best way to flush out code issues
[02:33] <_44trent3> well. i went to 15.10, I can now actually install fglrx...
[02:34] <donofrio> 44trent3, your a god, how.....url for steps from 12.04?
[02:34] <donofrio> what is the ubuntu upgrade script I gotta run again
[02:35] <_44trent3> how am I a god for figuring out how to uh...downgrade
[02:35] <_44trent3> all I did was make a new startup disk.
[02:36] <donofrio> oh ok....just seemed like you got x11 working in ati with audio and flash with jdk 1.8
[02:36] <donofrio> ?
[02:36] <donofrio> oh and chroium with pepperflash, one can dream
[02:37] <Xark> Hello.  Can anyone recommend a decent serial terminal program in the repo?  Hopefully something other than CuteCom?
[02:37] <_44trent3> yeah, well I downgraded specifically because fglrx is unsupported on xorg 1.8, which is what 16.04 uses
[02:37] <donofrio> do did you do an  dpkg --export on 12.04 and dpkg --import on 16.10 server?
[02:38] <_44trent3> ...i'm confused
[02:38] <_44trent3> what are we even talking about?
[02:38] <_44trent3> if you want to install fglrx on 12.04 ...
[02:38] <_44trent3> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/AMD
[02:39] <_44trent3> there's also crimson, but you'd have to manually install it
[02:39] <donofrio> i dunno I have a whole bunch of powerpc hardware and would like to get them working
[02:39] <_44trent3> eh, i'm not very well versed in stuff like that
[02:40] <_44trent3> someone else might be able to help you, but the best I can do is link you to the help page on fglrx for 12.04
[02:40] <PantsMcGee> donofrio: I haven't kept up if there are still unofficial ubuntu ports for powerpc.
[02:40] <dax> (there are)
[02:43] <PantsMcGee> Cool.
[02:43] <donofrio> dax, url's?
[02:44] <donofrio> bracking out my linuxmint11 netinstall to see if I can get this working with video, 12.04 and 12.10 didn't work
[02:44] <PantsMcGee> Here is Lubuntu 16.04: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/16.04/release/
[02:45] <PantsMcGee> I'm running a G5, though I still prefer Leopard for most things... might take a look again.
[02:46] <PantsMcGee> This is the main page, although it only links to 14.04 as the latest from there: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCDownloads
[02:47] <Guest60601> Rhorse, xserver-xorg-video-radeon is the installed driver.
[02:48] <snadge> does anyone here still use gnome-flashback with metacity (unaccelerated)
[03:05] <Ububegin> How can I connect from ubuntu to a windows machine via rdp.. I was using remmina but now it is not working due to some certificate error... is there any alternatives
[03:10] <cross7rx> rr
[03:11] <_44trent3> uh, how do I restore my xorg.conf...I screwed up installing fglrx
[03:11] <Keanne> Ububegin, go to advance tab, and in security try "negotiate"
[03:12] <Ububegin> Keanne: it was negotiate all the while... One thing, which changed was that from Windows, prev I cud access via mstsc but have to do mstsc /admin ... not sure how cud i add the admin to remmina
[03:13] <_44trent3> ...why can't I fix it...
[03:13] <_44trent3> like from...the try ubuntu thing to try and fix it
[03:13] <_44trent3> i'm trying to rename my xorg.conf to xorg.conf.old and it's not letting me at all
[03:14] <_44trent3> is it supossed to mounted?
[03:14] <_44trent3> it's a 120GB partition
[03:14] <_44trent3> with...well my linux install on it
[03:15] <BCB> what is the best way to recover after a do-release-upgrade hangs? Thank you
[03:15] <_44trent3> shouldn't it like, ask me for my root password when I open it?!
[03:16] <_44trent3> uhhhh
[03:18] <lili> hello
[03:18] <Guest65310> hey how come i cant innstall packages that i have downloaded online........ through the software center on ubuntu 16.04
[03:18] <lili> any one?
[03:18] <Guest65310> i know nick]
[03:18] <Guest65310> nick
[03:19] <_44trent3> i think gksudo nautilus will let me switch to my xorg.conf backup
[03:19] <OerHeks> Guest65310 know issue, use gdebi http://askubuntu.com/questions/760638/problem-with-deb-packages-on-ubuntu-16-04
[03:20] <_44trent3> xorg.conf.original-0 is the right one, right?
[03:20] <adun153> Hello everyone, can anybody give some help/suggestions? I'm trying to install Ubuntu 16.04 on a new laptop with an NVIDIA  GTX960m  Graphics card. Installation Booting hangs on the ubuntu violet splash screen. Any ideas?
[03:20] <OerHeks> = https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-software/+bug/1573206
[03:20] <_44trent3> it says original, i'm going to assume it's my...well original
[03:20] <_44trent3> the moment of truth now
[03:21] <OerHeks> adun153, you might want to try the nomodeset option
[03:21] <OerHeks> !nomodeset
[03:22] <adun153> OerHeks, will take a look at it, thanks.
[03:24] <_44trent3> uh
[03:24] <_44trent3> help
[03:24] <_44trent3> using the xorg backup from livecd did nothing...
[03:24] <_44trent3> i still get a black screen when i boot
[03:25] <OerHeks> you might want to try the nomodeset option
[03:25] <OerHeks> !nomodeset
[03:25] <_44trent3> uh...what's that
 A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter
[03:26] <_44trent3> right, but i'm trying to revert back to the open source drivers, which worked fine
[03:26] <_44trent3> how do I get rid of fglrx and get the open source drivers from a livecd?
[03:27] <OerHeks> i didn't know the open drivers need an xorg.conf
[03:27] <_44trent3> i...just did an aticonfig --initial to get the normal xorg.conf
[03:28] <_44trent3> i restored it to the backup, booted in and...black screen
[03:28] <_44trent3> which leads me to believe i also need to install the open source drivers and purge fglrx and fglrx-cccle or whatever
[03:28] <_44trent3> not that I know how to do it from a livecd
[03:28] <Keanne> Ububegin, how about trying the other security modes?
[03:28] <Ububegin> How can I connect from ubuntu to a windows machine via rdp.. I was using remmina but now it is not working due to some certificate error... is there any alternatives
[03:29] <Ububegin> Keanne: none of those work either
[03:30] <_44trent3> what are the 2 fglrx package names, just so I can make sure I have them right?
[03:30] <_44trent3> how exactly do i go into nomodeset, is there something in the bootloader i go into?
[03:30] <Bashing-om> _44trent3: Boot to the login screen, and key combo ctl+alt+F1 to gain a console . A liveDVD is not required with this method .
[03:31] <_44trent3> alright, I'll just...purge them and...then install the open source driver
[03:31] <_44trent3> i do "sudo apt install radeon" for the open source driver right? anything else needed?
[03:33] <zjhxmjl> hi,guys!who can give me a hand!thanks http://askubuntu.com/questions/753954/how-to-install-nvidia-gtx-750-ti-drivers-in-ubuntu-14-04-4-32-bit-system
[03:34] <Keanne> Ububegin, you could try to connect in console using freerdp, its what remmina is using anyways. try to ignore the certificate
[03:34] <Bashing-om> _44trent3: ' sudo apt remove --purge fglrx* ; sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf ; sudo apt install xserver-xorg-video-radeon ' .
[03:34] <Ububegin> Keanne: do you have the command to do that
[03:35] <Keanne> try xfreerdp -u <user> --secure-checksum --ignore-certificate -p <password> <ip>:<port>
[03:37] <Rookie>  
[03:37] <Keanne> but do experiment, its just what came on top of my head, its not tested. man xfreerdp
[03:39] <Rooster> finally
[03:40] <Rooster> whois
[03:47] <Rookie> yo
[03:52] <_44trent3> well, problem solved
[03:52] <_44trent3> ...never use the AMD installer...note to self
[03:53] <_44trent3> so how in the world do I install fglrx...properly? I'm on 15.10 so it shouldn't be an issue
[03:53] <_44trent3> i do legit need it, so don't tell me just to deal with the open source driver
[03:59] <terratoma> in preseed, is there a way to copy a file from the installation media to the target machine ?
[04:00] <Bashing-om> _44trent3: ' sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall ' .
[04:00] <_44trent3> alright
[04:09] <Rooster> hello
[04:12] <TheGuestOfTheHou> Is there a way to execute a command, only if the previous command executed without errors?
[04:13] <Bashing-om> TheGuestOfTheHou: command1 && command2 .
[04:13] <TheGuestOfTheHou> Bashing-om, thanks!
[04:13] <Bashing-om> TheGuestOfTheHou: :-)
[04:14] <h00k> So, if my gtk3/window decoration seems broken after an upgrade from 15.10 to 16.04, where's a good place to start?  It've managed to get the file/edit/about menu showing at the top, but I don't have the proper panel, clock, indicators, or unity bar. Protips on where to look?
[04:15] <_44trent3> fglrx seems to work
[04:15] <h00k> I can launch 'unity' and it launches unity-panel-service and unity7, but they crash quickly.
[04:16] <_44trent3> i'm using the MATE flavor so uh, i'm going to ask them on their IRC chan why changing the panel in MATE tweak to a certain one breaks my entire DE and window manager
[04:16] <Bashing-om> _44trent3: Great .
[04:16] <_44trent3> but considering it only happens when I do that, I'll just not use that one I guess
[04:17] <Rhorse> h00k: consider creating a new user, and logging in to the desktop that way.
[04:18] <h00k> Rhorse: I'd rather reset the gnome session vars than redo all my permissions, but I think I'll go the reset route.
[04:22] <h00k> Rhorse: eh, that did it.
[04:23] <Bashing-om> h00k: Wasgoing to say ' dconf reset -f /org/compiz/ ; Is that what you did ?
[04:28] <Rhorse> h00k: nice! :)
[04:30] <_44trent3> uhm
[04:30] <_44trent3> why are all my videos in pepperflash
[04:30] <_44trent3> i'm pretty sure I can do html5 video, i have an i5 and a radeon r9 390
[04:30] <_44trent3> maybe...purging it will fix it
[04:30] <_44trent3> either that or I switch to chromium
[04:35] <h00k> Bashing-om: No, the old trusty reset gnome3 stuffs one-liner
[04:36] <h00k> Obligatory disclaimer, don't do this unless you know what you're doing: rm -rf .gnome .gnome2 .gconf .gconfd .metacity .cache .dbus .dmrc .mission-control .thumbnails ~/.config/dconf/user ~.compiz*
[04:36] <h00k> Bashing-om: that's what I did ^
[04:37] <r_rios> I hope there's someone awake. Anyway, I need help. I had a triple boot set up in my system: Windows 7, Ubuntu 14.04, and Ubuntu 15.10. So, after upgrading to Windows 10, grub didn't start anymore (expected), but my Linux partitions seem to be gone (not expected)
[04:37] <Bashing-om> h00k: Yeah .. kinda drastic and risky .. but .. all is well that ends well :)
[04:37] <h00k> Bashing-om: Yeah, I used a sword where I needed a knife somewhere, but it wasn't worth my time trying to figure it out.
[04:38] <h00k> I don't have time anymore to muddle and futz with things, i just want it to work.
[04:38] <r_rios> Windows 7 was the originally installed system, so its partition was a primary partition (/dev/sda1), but both Linux partitions were in an extended partition (I guess they were /dev/sda5 and /dev/sda6; the extended partition itself is /dev/sda3)
[04:39] <Trinity> I have a GTX 970 installed with my ubuntu for 2 weeks now
[04:39] <Trinity> I haven't had any issues with it until today where i'm noticing currently a slight stutter for anything GPU related
[04:39] <Trinity> games that did not have a mini freeze suddenly do and dragging windows fastly does as well
[04:40] <Trinity> none of these were issues from before and the only thing that looks even a bit weird would be that the computer has been on for 7 days
[04:40] <r_rios> The extended partition is still there, as is the swap partition inside of it, but the rest of the extended partition is just a big, gray, unallocated chunk of space
[04:40] <Trinity> and only turing the computer off for 5 minutes did the stuttering reduce for a moment
[04:40] <Trinity> I haven't changed anything and GPU temps are at 67c which is normal
[04:40] <Trinity> any ideas?
[04:40] <r_rios> I got an error message before opening GParted
[04:43] <Rhorse> sounds like Windows did a number on that hdd. Personally, I don't let it in my house.
[04:44] <pokergod> hrm, upgraded to 16.04.  login screen came up.  typed in my password, saw a bunch of text, back to login screen.  tried again, bunch of text, back to login screen.  tried alt+cmd+f7 (or a combo that takes me to a shell.) Tried to login, and power went out on laptop.  So weird
[04:45] <pratyush> Hey all! Can Workspace Switcher be removed from launcher without disabling workspace functionality?
[04:46] <r_rios> Hopefully, testdisk will save me: http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk
[04:46] <Rhorse> r_rios: you can't save what isn't there.
[04:47] <r_rios> Rhorse, it found the lost partitions, though
[04:47] <Rhorse> What utility did that?
[04:48] <r_rios> testdisk
[04:49] <Rhorse> that sounds like an awesome utlitiy!
[04:50] <pokergod> how can i see what the errors are when i go to login?  it shows too quick and repaints the login screen too quick.
[04:50] <somsip> pokergod: use dmesg | less
[04:51] <_44trent3> where in the name of sanity is .conkyrc for conky?
[04:52] <alwan> It is just me, or it's real that ubuntu 16.04 uses much more RAM than previous versions?
[04:52] <alwan> my 32bit system at first login, uses approx 600+MB of RAM
[04:53] <pokergod> have you guys seen where, someone with 15.04 upgrades to 16.04 and now when they login, they get : apparmor=DENIED opertation=connect profile="/usr/lib/lightdm/lightdm-guest-session
[04:53] <lotuspsychje> alwan: think you need 2gig recommended now
[04:53] <alwan> I have 4 GB RAM
[04:54] <alwan> I also found some minor bugs
[04:54] <lotuspsychje> alwan: that should do the trick
[04:54] <alwan> the newly installed apps' shortcut don't show in dash
[04:54] <alwan> appmenu in some apps doesn't show
[04:55] <lotuspsychje> !bug | alwan
[04:55] <alwan> Thanks op <ubottu>
[04:56] <lotuspsychje> alwan: did you clean install or upgrade?
[04:56] <alwan> I did clean install
[04:57] <lotuspsychje> alwan: what kind of graphics card?
[04:57] <alwan> Intel
[04:57] <lotuspsychje> alwan: previous ubuntu performed well on your intel? its no hybrid card right?
[04:58] <alwan> No. It's single VGA
[04:58] <alwan> In 14.04 it works well
[04:58] <lotuspsychje> alwan: and with 4gig ram, why do you use the 32bit?
[04:59] <alwan> I need more lightweight system
[04:59] <lotuspsychje> alwan: is your cpu 64bit capable?
[04:59] <alwan> I found 64bit eats more RAM
[05:00] <alwan> I'm a heavy user I use my PC for many tasks
[05:00] <lotuspsychje> alwan: you will gain more overall system performance on 64bit
[05:00] <alwan> I'll try
[05:00] <alwan> for now I'm using Ubuntu MATE
[05:00] <Rhorse> yes, esp for multitasking, 64 bit is the way to go
[05:00] <alwan> it's more lightweight and stable
[05:00] <lotuspsychje> alwan: after you install 64bit, come back and we can wteak your system
[05:01] <gnomi> Hey guys, I just started using Ubuntu but I have found some things saying it has botnet installed by default.  How can I remove it and make my ubuntu only use free open source programs. I uninstalled the amazon program but I am worried it still has more software.
[05:02] <lotuspsychje> gnomi: a botnet? wich ubuntu version are you on?
[05:03] <gnomi> 14.04 lts
[05:03] <lotuspsychje> gnomi: ubuntu-desktop downloaded from ubuntu.com?
[05:04] <gnomi> Maybe the term is a bit harsh, but.. when I searched for a program.. I would also get amazon trying to sell me products.
[05:04] <lotuspsychje> gnomi: you can turn off online search in dash and amazon in system settings...
[05:05] <Rhorse> I wasn't aware Ubie was selling space in the OS for that stuff.
[05:06] <Rhorse> Easy enough to remove, however...
[05:07] <gnomi> alright, did that.  I wanted to make sure I didn't miss something.  Kinda gave me the wrong vibe.
[05:08] <NetworkingPro> Anyone have any recommendations on the best email server software to run on ubuntu?
[05:08] <NetworkingPro> I have a web server, and now need a mail server.
[05:09] <NetworkingPro> I dont mind it being very lightweight. Preferably easy to configure.
[05:09] <lotuspsychje> NetworkingPro: perhaps the #ubuntu-server guys might have some sugests
[05:09] <NetworkingPro> lotuspsychje: Thanks, when I try it says I cant send to the channel. Thats odd.
[05:10] <KowabungaDude^> registe
[05:10] <KowabungaDude^> Hello everyone
[05:11] <mcmay> .
[05:12] <KowabungaDude^> I got a question about C++  in ubuntu 14.04 g++-4.8
[05:12] <mcmay> exit
[05:12] <KowabungaDude^> I compiled a program and it runs
[05:13] <KowabungaDude^> but when I moved it to another folder  it doesn't print an output
[05:13] <KowabungaDude^> I have a better description about it here
[05:17] <KowabungaDude^> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/36832415/c-executable-wont-run-after-moving-to-a-different-folder-linux?noredirect=1#comment61235600_36832415
[05:17] <pokergod> sigh, don't update 15.04 to 16.04.  Ah well.
[05:17] <Keanne> NetworkingPro, postfix
[05:21] <momken> hi
[05:25] <lotuspsychje> mohankumar: dont run irc as root
[05:30] <BlankSpace> hi
[05:34] <jimmy_> Good day!
[05:34] <soulisson> Hi, I need some help, I built a volatility profile an  I put it in /usr/share/volatility-profiles, but it's not showing up when I type volatility --info, any idea pleaase?
[05:35] <jimmy_> I am unable to install xubuntu 14.04 from minimal CD! Error: Download failed, on all mirrors.
[05:35] <jimmy_> It appears that one of the files are missing, or can not be downloaded
[05:36] <jimmy_> I need some help here people. Please
[05:37] <jimmy_> the installer can not download libcryptsetup4-udeb! Therefore the installation fails
[05:40] <BlankSpace> hey how can iget voice
[05:40] <BlankSpace> on freenode channel
[05:40] <Wulf> BlankSpace: read the topic.
[05:41] <BlankSpace> wulf if you could be of help it wouldhave been helpful.
[05:41] <sebsebseb>  
[05:41] <Nilesh_> is there a command to restore all the packages of ubuntu14.04?
[05:41] <Wulf> BlankSpace: how, should I read it to you?
[05:41] <Wulf> Nilesh_: you mean downgrade?
[05:41] <lotuspsychje> Nilesh_: you can use the recoverymode/fix broken packages
[05:42] <Nilesh_> no, i've ripped off some packages from the system, need to restore them
[05:42] <BlankSpace> As if that would help resolve my problem
[05:42] <Wulf> BlankSpace: and your problem is?
[05:42] <Nilesh_> lotuspsychje: how?
[05:43] <BlankSpace> i cant send msg to freenode
[05:43] <DirtyCajun> installing a kvm with ide vs virtIO?
[05:43] <Wulf> BlankSpace: did you read the topic?
[05:43] <lotuspsychje> Nilesh_: hold shift at boot==> enter grub==>choose ubuntu (recoverymode)==>choose item fix broken packages
[05:43] <BlankSpace> Wulf: !topic
[05:43] <Nilesh_> lotuspsychje: ok
[05:43] <BlankSpace> !TOPIC
[05:43] <Wulf> BlankSpace: exactly...
[05:44] <somsip> BlankSpace: ...of the #freenode channel
[05:44] <catbeard> not sure how we're gonna help you with that here in #ubuntu, you could always /stats p to find an active irc operator
[05:45] <BlankSpace> Can any one help me in becoming computer literate
[05:45] <somsip> BlankSpace: this is not the right channel. Please go elsewhere
[05:45] <sebsebseb> !freenode
[05:45] <Wulf> BlankSpace: go back to school
[05:45] <catbeard> harsh
[05:46] <BlankSpace> School couldnt teach me anythhing.
[05:46] <catbeard> maybe if you have a specific topic or program or company you want to find out more about, they may have a channel on freenode
[05:46] <darkelfjuggalo> Im trying to create a USB Installer of Ubuntu 16.04 in Windows... I have used Pendrive Linux: there was no Bootloader... I used uNetbootin with a Downloard ISO; Installed, Kernal Corrupted... I have Used UnetBootin Distro Live Image, Once completed noting is on my thumbdrive...any suggestions?
[05:46] <BlankSpace> Y would i repeat.
[05:47] <lotuspsychje> !usb | darkelfjuggalo
[05:47] <sebsebseb> darkelfjuggalo: check the ISO
[05:47] <somsip> This is all offtopic and obvious troll is now obvious. Please dont encourage him and let's get back to ubuntu support. Thank you
[05:47] <jimmy_> Hello. Where can I get into contact with anybody who is responsible for ubuntu mirror maintenance and/or ubuntu setup development?
[05:47] <sebsebseb> !md5sum darkelfjuggalo
[05:47] <lotuspsychje> darkelfjuggalo: try the universal usb installer, works like a charm
[05:47] <jimmy_> i encountered an error which seems to be a global problem
[05:47] <lotuspsychje> jimmy_: #ubuntu-mirrors
[05:47] <Wulf> BlankSpace: Try becoming a farmer. Maybe you can do at least this?
[05:47] <somsip> Wulf: enough please
[05:48] <lotuspsychje> Wulf: that isnt nesecary...
[05:48] <jimmy_> tried, ubuntu-mirrors is a desert. no answer so far on that channel
[05:48] <lotuspsychje> dont feed offtopic
[05:48] <Wulf> but... but he started it! :-)
[05:48] <somsip> Wulf: then be mature and end it
[05:48] <lotuspsychje> sebsebseb: you forgot the | in between :p
[05:49] <BlankSpace> I am mature
[05:49] <sebsebseb> lotuspsychje: theres no factoid anyway it seems
[05:49] <lotuspsychje> sebsebseb: !md5 | user
[05:49] <somsip> !md5 | sebsebseb
[05:49] <sebsebseb> darkelfjuggalo: you can check the ISO
[05:50] <sebsebseb> darkelfjuggalo: make sure it downloaded ok  like that or download  a new one and try burning again
[05:50] <Wulf> Why is that still using md5?
[05:51] <darkelfjuggalo> lotuspsychje universal USB installer is what i got from Pendrivelinux
[05:51] <somsip> Wulf: md5 is fine for comfirming file integrity
[05:51] <sebsebseb> Wulf: somsip or  mostly
[05:51] <lotuspsychje> darkelfjuggalo: you just said you used unetbootin?
[05:51] <Wulf> somsip: yes, against accidental transmission errors
[05:52] <BlankSpace> I have got like dual boot on my pc.HOw can I know the hard disk partition between the two os
[05:52] <lotuspsychje> !dualboot | BlankSpace
[05:52] <somsip> Wulf: yes.
[05:52] <darkelfjuggalo> lotuspsychje 12:46:49 AM) darkelfjuggalo: Im trying to create a USB Installer of Ubuntu 16.04 in Windows... I have used Pendrive Linux: there was no Bootloader... I used uNetbootin with a Downloard ISO; Installed, Kernal Corrupted...
[05:53] <lotuspsychje> darkelfjuggalo: doesnt mention universal usb installer...but you tried them both unetbootin and universal usb installer?
[05:54] <BlankSpace> then how can i get single boot.I just want windows and not linux
[05:54] <somsip> BlankSpace: that's a question for ##windows
[05:54] <BlankSpace> or just linux not windows
[05:54] <BlankSpace> just one.
[05:54] <sebsebseb> BlankSpace: you just delete the other
[05:55] <somsip> BlankSpace: which one. We can't give advice if you dont know what you want
[05:55] <shane_> what can i do here?
[05:55] <BlankSpace> how?
[05:55] <somsip> shane_: ask ubuntu support questions
[05:55] <lotuspsychje> !support | shane
[05:55] <somsip> BlankSpace: yeah, and you're ignored
[05:55] <sebsebseb> !gparted BlankSpace
[05:56] <lotuspsychje> sebsebseb: you forgot the | :p
[05:56] <catbeard> BlankSpace: figure out if you want windows or linux, though windows must be installed first if you want to use both btw
[05:56] <BlankSpace> I i have been ignored?
[05:57] <sebsebseb> BlankSpace: load up a Live CD for any distro or the gparted one and delete Ubuntu, put your choosen distro on as well that isn't Ubuntu, if not already on as well, if really you just moved on with your second attempted slight troll to dual booting. simong thinks your a troll. I think the same
[05:57] <Wulf> BlankSpace: there, you got your +v in #freenode
[05:57] <lotuspsychje> BlankSpace: because you ask questions, before you actually know what you want..thats not usefull to get help here
[05:58] <sebsebseb> somsip: even not simong
[05:58] <sebsebseb> auto correct hmm
[05:58] <somsip> sebsebseb: it happens all the time :)
[05:58] <sebsebseb> auto tab
[05:58] <sebsebseb> somsip: yeah
[05:59] <sebsebseb> somsip: that person might wonder why they got high lighted though
[05:59] <somsip> sebsebseb: fair
[06:01] <abhinav--> Any updates on when 16.04.1 will be released?
[06:01] <abhinav--> Not able to install because of https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/llvm-toolchain-3.8/+bug/1564156
[06:01] <sebsebseb> abhinav--: in about three months apparently
[06:02] <sebsebseb> abhinav--: according to the release notes or whatever someone told me the other day
[06:02] <sebsebseb> I thought only about a month
[06:02] <sebsebseb> but apparently it's actsually about three
[06:02] <abhinav--> sebsebseb, oh
[06:02] <abhinav--> sebsebseb, but because of that bug, whenever I try to boot from the Ubuntu live USB, it hangs
[06:02] <sebsebseb> abhinav--: why you asking anyway?
[06:02] <sebsebseb> which bug?
[06:02] <abhinav--> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/llvm-toolchain-3.8/+bug/1564156
[06:02] <darkelfjuggalo> i just finised the check, it matches
[06:02] <kernel_mutex> hi all I need some different kind of help.
[06:03] <sebsebseb> abhinav--: llvmpipe hmm
[06:03] <lotuspsychje> kernel_mutex: start with one question at the time :p
[06:03] <darkelfjuggalo> lotuspsychje pendirve linux gives me universal usb installer
[06:03] <lotuspsychje> darkelfjuggalo: ok..and did you use it to make your usb?
[06:04] <sebsebseb> abhinav--: oh I see ok
[06:04] <sebsebseb> abhinav--: well Unity what you see,  hasn't really changed much between 15.10 and 16.04
[06:04] <sebsebseb> abhinav--: as far as I know
[06:04] <sebsebseb> abhinav--: oh yeah and ther's a way to put the menu down the bottom now as well, but I think that's about the biggest change it actsaully got really
[06:05] <sebsebseb> abhinav--: so going back to 15.10 for a while for example, woudn't be so bad I guess
[06:05] <darkelfjuggalo> that was the first USB i made, it had no Kernal... I could have tried YUMI also but i UUI
[06:05] <jminnick> how do you put the menu at the bottom?
[06:05] <lotuspsychje> sebsebseb: be carefull what you say mate, unity has a lot of new changes
[06:05] <abhinav--> sebsebseb, I got a new machine and was trying to do a fresh install.
[06:05] <lotuspsychje> jminnick: you mean the launcher?
[06:05] <jminnick> yea
[06:06] <sebsebseb> abhinav--: so I think your stuck with that bug or pretty much for now, unless you try and install that later version yourself or something in a unsupported way
[06:06] <pokergod> i can't login to X anymore.
[06:06] <sebsebseb> lotuspsychje: he can't just use it, see the bug he linked to
[06:06] <lotuspsychje> jminnick: download unity-tweak-tool it has the option to move launcher
[06:06] <pokergod> it just kicks me back to the login screen.  Which log file is best to debug this?
[06:06] <jminnick> Thanks lotuspsychje
[06:06] <abhinav--> sebsebseb, I guess I could install 15.10 and form there upgrade to 16.04. There is a work around mentioned in LP, a proposed fix which I could enable in apt and install
[06:06] <sebsebseb> lotuspsychje: abhinav-- has to wait untill 16.04.1 for a fix,  or I guess do some kind of hacking oneself, compiling the program from source or whatever I guess
[06:06] <sebsebseb> lotuspsychje: abhinav-- there's probably no ppa for that particular thing
[06:07] <sebsebseb> abhinav--: ok try the work around I didn't see that
[06:07] <sebsebseb> abhinav--: if that works great,  with reason you can downgrade back to 15.10 whilst waiting for 16.04.1 though that's what I meant
[06:08] <sebsebseb> abhinav--: then you can later upgrade that 15.10 install to 16.04.1 directly yep
[06:08] <abhinav--> sebsebseb, alright thanks. I thought this was a critical bug and they would make a new release sooner :P
[06:08] <darkelfjuggalo> lotuspsychje  that was the first USB i made, it had no Kernal... I could have tried YUMI also but i UUI
[06:08] <sebsebseb> lotuspsychje: big changes such as? I haven't upgraded yet
[06:08] <sebsebseb> lotuspsychje: from what I saw online etc, ther woudn't be much
[06:08] <abhinav--> sebsebseb, I will install 15.10
[06:08] <lotuspsychje> abhinav--: i would focus more on the bug itself, bring it more attention, add logs, errors, try kernels, take some action
[06:09] <sebsebseb> lotuspsychje: Unity 8 is where things are interesting and Mir and yeah, and hopefuflly those will both be default for 16.10, already great on the Ubuntu Touch devices :)
[06:09] <lotuspsychje> sebsebseb: lets not discuss that here..just making a point be carefull before you suggest things
[06:09] <pokergod> Anyone know how to fix 16.04?  go to login with it, and it kicks me back to login screen.  Which log file is best to debug this??
[06:09] <lotuspsychje> !discuss | sebsebseb seperate support from discuss
[06:10] <lotuspsychje> darkelfjuggalo: where did you download the iso from?
[06:10] <sebsebseb> abhinav--: no if it was critical they woudn't be saying the fix will be there, but in 16.04.1
[06:10] <sebsebseb> abhinav--: only a few or so useres effected with those graphics cards as well so, plus yours did sound kind of new from that link
[06:10] <lotuspsychje> pokergod: did you try loading a previous kernel?
[06:12] <sebsebseb> abhinav--: yep sojmetiems easier to just downgrade for a while the time being instead of messing around with som work around / hack I guess?
[06:13] <sebsebseb> abhinav--: on a side note it's a good idea to check the ISO, md5sum etc, but it probably will download fine anyway :)
[06:14] <darkelfjuggalo> lotuspsychje: I got it from here http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop
[06:14] <abhinav--> sebsebseb, hmm the LP ticket says they released the fix yesterday. I guess it is only available to the users of 16.04
[06:14] <pokergod> lotuspsychje, no, should i?
[06:14] <sebsebseb> abhinav--: oh is 15.10 effected to?
[06:14] <lotuspsychje> darkelfjuggalo: ok, did you try some other usb sticks yet? other usb ports?
[06:15] <abhinav--> sebsebseb, no. I was just checking the lp for that bug and it said a fix was released
[06:15] <lotuspsychje> pokergod: try a few steps: load a previous kernel, try a failsafeX from recoverymode,try the guest account
[06:15] <sebsebseb> abhinav--: there's probably some sort of testing repo that can enable for 16.04 for just updates hmm. development repo testing, but you woudn't want anything else to be updated from there if so really, since that could effect the stabilty of the system
[06:15] <sebsebseb> abhinav--: but if there's something in that, then it should come as a normal update in a bit or so I guess
[06:16] <sebsebseb> abhinav--:  keep an eye on the ticket, leave a comment yourself, to find out more. your best bet
[06:16] <darkelfjuggalo> only have the one Stick, both devices only register 2 USB ports, I'm having to swap the Mous and the Keyboard out to install it
[06:17] <sebsebseb> abhinav--: in the mean time though I hear 15.10 calling your name, saying that it's the pervious release, but still good for now. another three months of support even
[06:17] <abhinav--> sebsebseb, yes. I have got a new machine and can't wait to start using it :D
[06:17] <sebsebseb> abhinav--: yep sometimes newer hardware isn't as supported or for the time being
[06:17] <darkelfjuggalo> i am trying YUMI now, will let you know
[06:18] <sebsebseb> abhinav--: I guess this is one of those times
[06:18] <abhinav--> sebsebseb, I will comment on the ticket
[06:18] <sebsebseb> abhinav--: ok :)
[06:18] <pokergod> lotuspsychje, what's the key-combo to get a recovery console?
[06:20] <lotuspsychje> pokergod: hold shift at boot==>enter grub==>choose ubuntu(recoverymode)
[06:21] <pokergod> nah shift doesn't give me the menu
[06:21] <pokergod> i've tried it 4 times before i asked you
[06:22] <lotuspsychje> !grub | pokergod
[06:22] <knightwise> good morning peeps
[06:23] <pokergod> ahh it's escape
[06:23] <pokergod> it's escape on my laptop for whatever reason
[06:26] <bq> what does this mean? sudo apt update ==> E: The method driver /usr/lib/apt/methods/rsync could not be found.
[06:28] <lotuspsychje> bq: getting same on sudo apt-get update?
[06:29] <bq> lotuspsychje: yes
[06:30] <lotuspsychje> bq: you have a https in your sources.list?
[06:31] <carcinoma> hello @all
[06:31] <sebsebseb> carcinoma: hi
[06:32] <bq> lotuspsychje: no https. but http, ftp and rsync
[06:32] <carcinoma> i have a problem to find things with the search function in the Software center in ubuntu 16.04, am i right here for this?
[06:32] <sebsebseb> carcinoma: yes
[06:32] <sebsebseb> carcinoma: and what's the problem?
[06:32] <bq> lotuspsychje: is that rsync causing problem?
[06:32] <carcinoma> i thried to fnd "keepassx" but could not find it. Is it a bug?
[06:33] <lotuspsychje> bq: could be, try removing non-standard formats in your sources
[06:33] <sebsebseb> carcinoma: what's that?
[06:33] <sebsebseb> carcinoma: the thing you were searching for
[06:33] <carcinoma> sebsebseb: its a key/password management tool
[06:33] <lotuspsychje> carcinoma: i think terminal apps getting bypassed from ubuntu-software
[06:33] <carcinoma> lotuspsychje: ist a UI Tool
[06:34] <lotuspsychje> carcinoma: try an apt-cache search your-package from terminal
[06:34] <lotuspsychje> !info keepassx
[06:34] <carcinoma> lotuspsychje: that worked
[06:34] <sebsebseb> carcinoma: make sure universe is enabled
[06:34] <sebsebseb> carcinoma: then it should find it
[06:34] <sebsebseb> and let you install
[06:35] <sebsebseb> in the software centre as welll
[06:35] <carcinoma> sebsebseb: it could be found with apt-cache search, but not in software centre
[06:35] <sebsebseb> carcinoma: yes since universe is not enabled I would have thought
[06:35] <sebsebseb> carcinoma: bot said it was in universe
[06:35] <sebsebseb> !universe
[06:36] <carcinoma> sebsebseb: i#ll have lock
[06:36] <sebsebseb> carcinoma: ok :)
[06:38] <vijaikumar> hey there fellas.. i am using a grid generation tool which seems to work fine with Xorg version upto 1.16
[06:38] <vijaikumar> but when it is run in any version after that
[06:38] <vijaikumar> it gives the following error
[06:39] <vijaikumar> https://ghostbin.com/paste/vwe3p/raw
[06:40] <OerHeks> vijaikumar, and what grid generation tool does this?
[06:40] <OerHeks> and ubuntu version ?
[06:41] <vijaikumar> OerHeks, unfortunately it is a paid tool.. and ubuntu 14.04 with X version above 1.16
[06:41] <vijaikumar> 1.17 and ...
[06:41] <sebsebseb> vijaikumar: ok they probably don't support the later versions of Xorg then
[06:41] <OerHeks> oh, not an ubuntu issue i guess.
[06:41] <sebsebseb> vijaikumar: you should contact them
[06:41] <vijaikumar> hmmm
[06:42] <sebsebseb> vijaikumar: try and get them to upgrade
[06:42] <vijaikumar> thanks
[06:42] <carcinoma> sebsebseb: universe is activated (that cause apt could find it), it it does not appear in the software center. bug?
[06:42] <sebsebseb> vijaikumar: what kind of program is it as well
[06:42] <vijaikumar> its a C++ application which uses a motif gui
[06:42] <sebsebseb> carcinoma: maybe a bug if not in software centre yes, with universe enabled, but can you install it from terminal
[06:42] <OerHeks> current 16.04 LTS is X.Org Server 1.8.
[06:42] <sebsebseb> vijaikumar: ok but I meant  the useage really
[06:42] <BenSolo> Has anyone been able to get HBO Now to work? I have tried many guides and forum suggestions to no avail..
[06:43] <vijaikumar> sebsebseb, generate meshes for computational fluid dynamic analysis
[06:43] <vijaikumar> like tetgen
[06:43] <vijaikumar> which is opensource
[06:43] <Wulf> I just got an update for the tzdata package, flagged as security update. What was the incident?
[06:43] <sebsebseb> vijaikumar: which version of Ubuntu did it work with. 14.04?
[06:43] <vijaikumar> in 14.04 with x.org upto 1.16
[06:43] <popey> Wulf: hat version of ubuntu?
[06:43] <vijaikumar> after that it gives that error sebsebseb
[06:43] <sebsebseb> vijaikumar: ok that makes sense
[06:43] <Wulf> popey: rusty
[06:44] <sebsebseb> h eh oh now another one morning Ubuntu support @ popey
[06:44] <sebsebseb> vijaikumar: the version of Xorg in 14.04 and the one in 16.04
[06:44] <popey> Wulf: 14.04?
[06:44] <carcinoma> sebsebseb: if i could take the position of a newbe, which is searching for passowrd management tools, he will never be able to find keepassx it without the terminal?
[06:44] <sebsebseb> vijaikumar: well tehre's two years difference
[06:44] <OerHeks> Wulf, ere too, 15.10 .. Changes for tzdata versions:
[06:44] <OerHeks> Installed version: 2016c-0ubuntu0.15.10
[06:44] <OerHeks> Available version: 2016d-0ubuntu0.15.10
[06:44] <Wulf> popey: yes
[06:44] <vijaikumar> sebsebseb, i know
[06:44] <sebsebseb> vijaikumar: Xorg may have changed enough to break your program for some reason yes
[06:45] <sebsebseb> vijaikumar: have you tried it with 15.10 for example as well? no/
[06:45] <sebsebseb> ?
[06:45] <popey> Wulf: new upstream release
[06:45] <sebsebseb> vijaikumar: well it's not really Xorg breaking it, it's more your program not following along with the updates to xorg
[06:45] <vijaikumar> sebsebseb, it fails in everything after that sebsebseb.. i even downloaded 16.04
[06:45] <OerHeks> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tzdata/2016d-0ubuntu0.15.10/+changelog
[06:45] <Yuri6037> Hey all, I'm back, with one big problem : all my data files can not be oppened without loosing every fonts in Ubuntu. Indeed any docx, xlsx, pptx, any data file displays with invalid fonts.
[06:45] <Wulf> popey: okay, but why security?
[06:45] <popey> Wulf: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tzdata/2016d-0ubuntu0.14.04
[06:45] <popey> Wulf: so it goes out quickly I imagine
[06:45] <sebsebseb> vijaikumar: and when Ubuntu switches to Mir your program will become even less supported possibly I guess. depends
[06:45] <vijaikumar> sebsebseb, thanks anyway :)
[06:46] <popey> Wulf: non-security updates are baked for a week
[06:46] <vijaikumar> sebsebseb, it may.. yeah
[06:46] <sebsebseb> vijaikumar: have you treid some other distros of interest?
[06:46] <popey> Wulf: timezone updates are (unsurprisingly) usually time critical
[06:46] <sebsebseb> vijaikumar: might make a diffeernce, but they generally all use pretty much the same xorg I think
[06:46] <vijaikumar> sebsebseb, yeah.. it is an issue with xorg
[06:46] <vijaikumar> in pretty much all distros it fails with a higher x.org
[06:46] <sebsebseb> vijaikumar: 14.04 still has some support left
[06:46] <sebsebseb> vijaikumar: but you should try and get htem to make for later versions yep
[06:47] <vijaikumar> i will sebsebseb
[06:47] <vijaikumar> thank you.
[06:47] <Yuri6037> I tried to msttcorefonts but it does not work.
[06:47] <sebsebseb> vijaikumar: ok good luck :)
[06:47] <Yuri6037> *install
[06:48] <carcinoma> sebsebseb: can you tell me where i have to file a bug? launchpad (for software center), keepassx project page?
[06:48] <sebsebseb> !bug
[06:48] <sebsebseb> carcinoma: there ^
[06:50] <carcinoma> sebsebseb: ok, but is <package> the "Ubuntu Software Centern" or "Keepassx"?
[06:50] <sebsebseb> carcinoma: package is your program
[06:50] <carcinoma> sebsebseb: ok, thanks
[06:52] <carcinoma> sebsebseb: btw, it is not clear what is "your program" when you try to find a program with the help of a program
[06:52] <Yuri6037> Anyone ?
[06:52] <sebsebseb> carcinoma: oh your not a native ENglish speaker I guess as well, where you from?
[06:52] <sebsebseb> carcinoma: your program = keep....
[06:53] <lotuspsychje> Yuri6037: did you install ubuntu-restricted-extras?
[06:53] <sebsebseb> carcinoma: package generally means the software you were trying to install
[06:53] <Yuri6037> What's that ?
[06:53] <sebsebseb> !restricted
[06:53] <sebsebseb> Yuri6037: yep that ^
[06:53] <carcinoma> sebsebseb: yepp, not native, germany
[06:53] <sebsebseb> Yuri6037: as part of that it should do the fonts
[06:53] <popey> carcinoma: I'm seeing the same issue
[06:53] <lotuspsychje> Yuri6037: the fonts you look for should be inside
[06:53] <popey> carcinoma: I'll file a bug
[06:54] <Yuri6037> installing
[06:55] <carcinoma> popey: oh, thanks, if you're done can you post the link?
[06:55] <popey> carcinoma: wlil do in one moment
[06:56] <BlankSpace> can i ask one offtopic question
[06:56] <popey> BlankSpace: in #ubuntu-offtopic you can, sure.
[06:57] <Yuri6037> I have at the end of the logs E: Download failed
[06:58] <Yuri6037> Can't drop privileges for downloading as file '/var/lib/update-notifier/package-data-downloads/partial/andale32.exe' like when installing msttcorefonts
[06:58] <Yuri6037> the famous package ttf-mscorefonts-installer which always always fails download
[06:59] <popey> carcinoma: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-software/+bug/1574471
[07:00] <totem> popey, hi alan pope
[07:00] <carcinoma> popey: lot of thanks
[07:00] <popey> np
[07:00] <robb_nl> Yuri6037, same here: ttf-mscorefonts-installer failed to download
[07:01] <Yuri6037> It always fails downloading andale32.exe
[07:02] <popey> Yuri6037: that's just the first one in the list
[07:02] <robb_nl> who needs a .exe on a linux machine anyway... :-/
[07:03] <popey> robb_nl: it's the only way they can be distributed
[07:03] <sebsebseb> who needs Microsoft fonts anyway when there's that apparently awesome Ubuntu font, h eh h eh
[07:03] <popey> robb_nl: they're auto-extracting archives
[07:03] <robb_nl> lol @ sebsebseb
[07:04] <bograd> орлол
[07:04] <Yuri6037> Err:1 http://downloads.sourceforge.net/corefonts/andale32.exe     hash controll addition incorrect
[07:04] <popey> I just removed/purged and reinstalled it here
[07:04] <sebsebseb> robb_nl: made using Photoshop though if I remember correctly hmm
[07:04] <popey> sebsebseb: no
[07:04] <popey> (also, chatter else where please)
[07:05] <Yuri6037> So any fix ?
[07:06] <bograd> привет всем
[07:06] <popey> Yuri6037: can you manually get the file? wget http://downloads.sourceforge.net/corefonts/andale32.exe
[07:06] <robb_nl> is it getting too entertaining popey?... ;) :P
[07:06] <popey> robb_nl: misinformation is rarely entertaining
[07:07] <robb_nl> ouch.... lol
[07:07] <Yuri6037> Yes it works I can download it manualy but I don't know where it put the file
[07:08] <Yuri6037> Ok it's in home. wget worked just put the file in home
[07:09] <popey> Yuri6037: strange, can you re-install ttf-mscorefonts-installer and see if it works this time? maybe it was a transient issue?
[07:10] <klaasvakie> has anyone had success using the 16.04 unity-settings-daemon inside a smaller WM like awesome/i3 etc?
[07:10] <popey> Yuri6037: could be this bug . https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/msttcorefonts/+bug/1371783
[07:10] <robb_nl> isn't extracting in the fonts dir enough? (itś a Q so please bear with me)
[07:11] <popey> Yuri6037: that bug has some tips you can try
[07:11] <popey> robb_nl: yeah but it would be nice to see why it's busted :)
[07:11] <Yuri6037> Yes it's that hash sum invalid
[07:13] <robb_nl> and that would be either ~/.fonts or /usr/share/fonts right?
[07:15] <Yuri6037> They say to change DNS but ubuntu atributes IPs automatically.. I can't see any way to set static IP.
[07:16] <sebsebseb> bb
[07:17] <robb_nl> in the README, in the msttcorefonts dir it says to reinistall to accept the EULA: (as SU or sudo) apt-get install --reinstall ttf-mscorefonts-installer
[07:18] <robb_nl> for me that worked....
[07:20] <bq> how do i turn off dhcp and set static dns servers?
[07:20] <Wulf> bq: desktop or server machine?
[07:20] <DevAntoine> hi
[07:20] <robb_nl> bq why turn off dhcp? you can change dns in dhcp....
[07:22] <popey> bq: you can do that in network manager, edit connections, select connectoin -> edit, ipv4 settings -> change 'method' to "Automatic (DHCP) Address only" and set DNS server in "Additional DNS Servers"
[07:23] <robb_nl> or edit /etc/network/interfaces https://help.ubuntu.com/community/StaticDnsWithDhcp
[07:25] <kernel_mutex> I'm writing a user manual for a GUI sample application for our SDK.
[07:26] <Yuri6037> Ok I setted a static network IP, as it would be a bad idea that the laptop steals IPs !
[07:32] <ice9> is there HTTPS repos?
[07:37] <BlankSpace> hi
[07:47] <BadPractice> hi, where do i find usable hashes for xubuntu (sha512, https)
[07:48] <robb_nl> BadPractice, have a look here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes
[07:50] <BadPractice> robb_nl: where? all the links there are http not https
[07:50] <Yuri6037> Hey all, so I tried seriously everything and no ways to download them even the command list to bypass sum hash problem does not work (commands are not correct)
[07:51] <Yuri6037> So I'm thinking of something however that's abit tricky
[07:51] <Yuri6037> What it wants are Arial, Arial Black and Impact (that's the only 3 fonts I'm using for work) so why not enforcing fonts in the system ?
[07:52] <BadPractice> robb_nl: https://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/16.04/release/SHA256SUMS , does not support https. The hash is useless
[07:52] <robb_nl> BadPractice, itś the only official list of hashes I guess... why you have problems being them http and not https?
[07:52] <Yuri6037> I have my windows install on the same machine, so it should be possible to cp from OS HDD to the system ?
[07:53] <Yuri6037> this way no need to go for overcomplicated internet problems
[07:53] <BadPractice> robb_nl: because http allowes a man in the mittle attack. Onte tcp/ip hijacking later the hash is altered
[07:53] <Yuri6037> however where is ubuntu searching fonts ?
[07:53] <Yuri6037> is it searching in root user dir ?
[07:54] <BadPractice> robb_nl: so simply: because http veryfication = no verification
[07:54] <bq> Wulf: does it(dns settings) matter on desktop or server?
[07:54] <somsip> Yuri6037: /usr/share/fonts is the normal font home IIRC
[07:54] <Yuri6037> ok so any .ttf fonts there will be auto loaded by LibreOffice ?
[07:55] <somsip> Yuri6037: if recached, IME, yes
[07:56] <Yuri6037> Ok so I just need to write a script to copy from another media because the fonts are in the Windows install and I don't want ubuntu to destroy anything there only vulgary copy
[07:56] <BadPractice> so there is no way to verify xubuntu with trustworthy hashes! Splendid! Where can i write issues?
[07:57] <Yuri6037> bad new I can't even access media folder from bash
[07:59] <robb_nl> BadPractice, Just had a quick look at some other distro's CentOS and Debian don't have https, fedora has....
[08:01] <JosanArchy28> Hola k ase
[08:01] <JosanArchy28> jelou
[08:02] <BadPractice> robb_nl: so what? It makes it right?
[08:02] <JosanArchy28> Dani ya esta hecha la tarea
[08:02] <Guest70669> whats up
[08:02] <robb_nl> I see you problem with it.... opening an issue would be a good idea....
[08:03] <Guest70669>  ffwtwet computer virus truwuwsu on web chat
[08:03] <somsip> Guest70669: do you have a support question?
[08:03] <robb_nl> it's not that it would make it right, but more to show how other distro's apparently think about this
[08:04] <Guest70669> trtyrtyrtytyrtyrtyr
[08:04] <BadPractice> robb_nl: i cant even download xubuntu over https
[08:04] <Guest70669> use ubuntu mate 16.04
[08:06] <Guest70669> i have sabayon
[08:06] <robb_nl> BadPractice, how did you download previous versions of (x)ubuntu? I don think they were ever through https
[08:07] <Guest70669> i go to unix .com and get the old stuff
[08:07] <arlekin> hi there - i'd like to use printer, shared over lan, but each time i try to print nothing happens and job is 'stopped'
[08:07] <arlekin> how can i deal with that on ubuntu 16.04
[08:07] <arlekin> >
[08:08] <arlekin> >
[08:08] <BadPractice> robb_nl: well i last used untuntu 10 years ago. I am using gentoo now
[08:08] <arlekin> *?
[08:08] <Guest70669> gentoo does not work for me
[08:08] <Jordan_U> Guest70669: If your next comment isn't a coherent Ubuntu support question you will be banned from the channel.
[08:09] <robb_nl> BadPractice, sandbox the xubuntu version you want to try... :)
[08:09] <Guest70669> jordan_ u i thought this was a chat room sorry
[08:10] <Jordan_U> Guest70669: For non support chat feel free to join #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[08:10] <robb_nl> Guest70669, you can go to ubuntu-offtopic for general chat
[08:10] <robb_nl> ^^
[08:11] <arlekin> guys ? could anyone help me with my printer problem ?
[08:11] <BadPractice> robb_nl: honestly untuntu devs should know better then that
[08:11] <robb_nl> BadPractice, just for the record: I am not a dev
[08:12] <robb_nl> arlekin, it depends on what printer you have... can you give more info?
[08:13] <BadPractice> robb_nl: i know. Its not your fault
[08:13] <arlekin> robb_nl: sure thing: i have hp laserjet 1120n MFP, it is shared over local network in office (but not attached to anyone pc)
[08:13] <arlekin> and printer wizard in ubuntu sees it
[08:13] <arlekin> and in theory all seems well, except i can't get anything to pring
[08:14] <robb_nl> so the printer has it's own IP address?... do you have HPLIP installed?
[08:14] <Jordan_U> BadPractice: http://mirror.pnl.gov/releases/xenial/
[08:14] <Yuri6037> ok I'm extracting impact and arial fonts by using terminal
[08:14] <BadPractice> robb_nl: im just mad, 50% of my days is like this: when you want reasonable security you dont get any work done
[08:14] <arlekin> i send a job, printer even 'clicks', but jobs have 'stopped' status
[08:14] <arlekin> robb_nl: i have, i checked
[08:14] <Yuri6037> arial black however seams impossible to find in the Windows/Fonts dir
[08:16] <BadPractice> Jordan_U: thank you, does not work https://mirror.pnl.gov/releases/xenial/SHA1SUMS
[08:16] <robb_nl> arlekin, have a look here: http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/models/laserjet/hp_laserjet_m1120_mfp.html
[08:16] <robb_nl> try to troubleshoot step by step
[08:16] <arlekin> robb_nl: i will, thanks
[08:17] <Jordan_U> BadPractice: Works fine here. Is the file not downloading for you or are you having trouble verifying the GPG signature?
[08:17] <robb_nl> arlekin, THIS MIGHT HELP TOO: http://hplipopensource.com/node/224
[08:17] <robb_nl> sorry caps
[08:18] <Jordan_U> BadPractice: Ahh, don't try to use https, it's not needed. Note the http://mirror.pnl.gov/releases/xenial/SHA256SUMS.gpg there which gives much better guarantees than https.
[08:18] <arlekin> robb_nl: i just was reading this :)
[08:18] <BadPractice> Jordan_U: against what key does it verify?
[08:18] <Yuri6037> there is just one problem with fonts I extracted, those fonts needs a config (I got arial for Arial, ariali for Italic, arialb for Bold and arialbi for Bold Italic), is there any special configuration to do ? Or will ubuntu correctly find everything ?
[08:20] <Jordan_U> BadPractice: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto
[08:22] <BadPractice> Jordan_U: oh there it is. Sry didnt see where i could get the key
[08:23] <lotuspsychje> morning EriC^^
[08:23] <EriC^^> morning lotuspsychje
[08:25] <prmo> hello
[08:25] <EriC^^> hi
[08:27] <Yuri6037> ok copied to usr/share/fonts
[08:27] <Mamute666> Little help with Pipelight? Ubuntu x86_64
[08:29] <Yuri6037> PERFECT ! Arial has been read by LibreOffice Writer
[08:31] <Yuri6037> Yay ! Arial and Impact worked
[08:31] <BadPractice> Jordan_U: i was able to verify. Thank you
[08:31] <Yuri6037> Now I just need to find an ArialBlack
[08:31] <Jordan_U> BadPractice: You're welcome.
[08:32] <Mamute666> Need install Unity Web Browser Ubuntu 16.04 x86_64... T-T
[08:32] <BadPractice> Jordan_U: although its strange that they offer md5sums
[08:33] <lotuspsychje> Mamute666: you mean webbrowser-app?
[08:33] <Mamute666> "lotuspsychje Yeap
[08:33] <lotuspsychje> Mamute666: thats already installed by default
[08:34] <Jordan_U> BadPractice: Why? md5sums are good for detecting accidental corruption and have been around for ages and are supported by tons of software. Anyone that cares about security will use the SHA256SUMS.
[08:34] <Mamute666> "lotuspsychje Unity 3D pluin ... Pipelight-multi error on ppa repository
[08:35] <BadPractice> Jordan_U: I see your point but it could be a pitfall for noobs
[08:35] <lotuspsychje> Mamute666: we dont support external ppa's sorry
[08:36] <Mamute666> lotuspsychje: Course... But need pipeligh here. Any idea?
[08:36] <lotuspsychje> Mamute666: you can contact the maintainer, or look for an ubuntu alternative officially supported?
[08:36] <BadPractice> Jordan_U: not meaning noob negative
[08:37] <vic_thor> are the sources for ubuntu iso creation somewhere?
[08:37] <Mamute666> lotuspsychje: Yeap, but dnt install the Pipelight! T-T *dnt found the pkg,
[08:38] <lotuspsychje> vic_thor: can you tell us what your end goal is?
[08:39] <vic_thor> i want to see how ubuntu does it
[08:39] <lotuspsychje> !info uck | vic_thor can this help?
[08:39] <lundmar> geeezz, how can Ubuntu release 16.04 LTS and not catch that horrible gnome-terminal not able to unmaximize on F11 bug? It is driving everyone nuts!
[08:39] <lotuspsychje> lundmar: bug url?
[08:40] <lundmar> lotuspsychje: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/1521302
[08:40] <k1l> lundmar: never heard of that
[08:40] <vic_thor> yeah, but ukc takes an already created iso; im looking for the building of that first iso
[08:40] <lundmar> k1l: I'm here to inform! :D
[08:41] <Yuri6037> now there we go my ubuntu is much better it's able to read correctly work files without invaliding fonts
[08:41] <lundmar> gnome-terminal in 16.04 cannot restore back to original window size when hitting F11, it remains maximized window.
[08:41] <vic_thor> i thought it would be easy to find somewhere, but im only finding some pieces here and there on launchpad
[08:41] <lotuspsychje> vic_thor: your own ubuntu based-distro or customize existing ubuntu
[08:42] <Mamute666> lotuspsychje: Hey ... dnt have compatibility for 16.04 yet*
[08:42] <Mamute666> lotuspsychje: Thx! =)
[08:42] <idletask> Hello people
[08:42] <lotuspsychje> vic_thor: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
[08:42] <idletask> http://askubuntu.com/q/760998/173553 and https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1574251, do you know of a workaround?
[08:42] <k1l> lundmar: it works for clicking the button. but i dont know if using F11 fullscreen is that common
[08:43] <Yuri6037> So the solution for everyone is to get a windows copy, then extract all fonts you need and install manualy in ubuntu I'll maybe make a .sh to merge an entire folder inside usr/share/fonts
[08:43] <lundmar> k1l: just checked, clicking button is also broken.
[08:44] <lundmar> k1l: exact sme behaviour either way.
[08:44] <lundmar> same*
[08:44] <k1l> lundmar: not here. here it maximizes to fullscreen. when clicking again it restores the position it was before
[08:45] <Yuri6037> Now I'd like to know if linux can access a windows computers in the network
[08:45] <ikonia> Yuri6037: it can
[08:45] <lundmar> k1l: are you testing from a small terminal window?
[08:46] <vic_thor> lotuspsychje, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomizationFromScratch this is the closest i could find. Still, I assumed the real scripts, not a html page, should be easy to find on a repo somewhere
[08:46] <k1l> lundmar: i am not using f11
[08:47] <Yuri6037> ikonia: seriously ? It can realy access a windows 7 ultimate x64 at IP 192.168.2.2
[08:47] <lundmar> k1l: if you create a gnome-terminal, eg. 25% size of the screen and then maximize and unmaximize the terminal will remain 100% windowed.
[08:47] <lotuspsychje> lundmar: also got this with F11
[08:47] <lundmar> lotuspsychje: same issue right?
[08:48] <lotuspsychje> ill mark me as affected
[08:48] <lotuspsychje> lundmar: did un-maximize went back to small on other ubuntu versions?
[08:48] <Yuri6037> Can you stop the current operation in terminal ? because I just ping the home server, and it does not want to stop...
[08:48] <k1l> lundmar: not here. i have a terminal at 1/4 of my second monitor. if i click the fullscreen windowbutton it goes to fullscreen. when clicking again it goes back to 1/4 in the upper left corner where it was before
[08:49] <lundmar> lotuspsychje: in previous verion, unmaximize went back to original window size.
[08:49] <lotuspsychje> k1l: your on unity?
[08:49] <k1l> yep
[08:49] <Yuri6037> It understands I want to make a mini DDOS but I don't want to DDOS my home server under windows...
[08:49] <lundmar> k1l: 16.04? ;)
[08:49] <k1l> yep
[08:50] <lundmar> k1l: hmm, I'm on an upgraded system. Might there be a chance this is gtk3/gnome-terminal registry settings related?
[08:50] <k1l> i did upgrade, too
[08:50] <Yuri6037> Ok CTRL+Z stopped it
[08:51] <lotuspsychje> lundmar, k1l  daily to final update myself
[08:52] <lotuspsychje> lundmar: same behaviour on the maximize/minimize buttons
[08:53] <lundmar> lotuspsychje: super annoying haha , really renders terminals useless.
[08:53] <lotuspsychje> lundmar, k1l just tested on terminator, working like a charm there
[08:53] <lundmar> yes, but we don't use terminator, we use gnome-terminal! :D
[08:53] <Afdla> I install "sudo apt install python-flake8" but anyone has any idea how to run it? python-flake8 is unknown command and flake8 install the python3 version
[08:54] <lotuspsychje> lundmar: sure, just saying this as a test
[08:54] <lundmar> lotuspsychje: yup, it is surely gnome-terminal specific.
[08:54] <Jordan_U> BadPractice: Indeed. Security should be the default, but it's non-trivial to require all mirrors to implement https, and again that doesn't really give the guarantees that you ideally want: You don't want to have to trust the mirrors. Having just the SHA265SUMS avialable via https is again a less than ideal guarantee, and it also isn't much less arcane to check the iso against a SHA256SUM than it is to ch
[08:54] <Jordan_U> eck that SHA256SUM against a gpg detatched signature. I don't know what a good soltution would be. If you'd like to discuss this more I'd be happy to in #ubuntu-discuss or #ubuntu-offtopic.
[08:55] <lotuspsychje> lundmar: but doesnt explain why k1l dont have this
[08:55] <lundmar> lotuspsychje: no, that is very strange.
[08:56] <lotuspsychje> lundmar: whats your graphics card?
[08:56] <lundmar> lotuspsychje: intel gpu.
[08:56] <lotuspsychje> radeon here
[08:56] <rud0lf> in person?
[08:56] <lundmar> I wouldn't think this is gpu related.
[08:56] <k1l> intel too.
[08:58] <lundmar> hmm, lets see if they have fixed something in gnome-terminal lately related to this.
[08:58] <lotuspsychje> is there a way to debug gnome-terminal from terminal?
[09:00] <lundmar> doesn't look like it has debug options
[09:00] <kernel_mutex> hi all, anybody here wrote a user manual here?
[09:00] <lundmar> kernel_mutex: like a man page?
[09:01] <TJ-> haha! lundmar thought you were asking for a man for the kernel_mutex functions!
[09:01] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: we having a gnome-terminal bug here
[09:02] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/1521302
[09:02] <TJ-> we do? well there's a surprise !
[09:02] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: but k1l doesnt have this, just tested on unity
[09:03] <TJ-> lotuspsychje: oh! I noticed that last week but thought it was the new 'way' of unity
[09:03] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: terminator doesnt have it
[09:03] <TJ-> double-click on the application window bar and it unmaximises
[09:04] <TJ-> I only see 3 icons top-left: Close, Minimize, Maximize. Which one is causing the strangeness
[09:04] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: but doesnt go back to small sized terminal
[09:04] <rud0lf> lotuspsychje: same here
[09:04] <lotuspsychje> rud0lf: add your affected to existing bug?
[09:04] <rud0lf> like i said
[09:04] <lotuspsychje> tnx
[09:05] <lundmar> TJ-: if original is say eg. 15%, then when unmaximizing it remains like 99%
[09:05] <TJ-> yes, the auto-fill-all-desktop-space .. I thought that was suppposed to be :)
[09:06] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: terminator goes back to normal space, so would not be a unity feature
[09:07] <lundmar> what is terminator, qt or gtk?
[09:07] <lotuspsychje> !info terminator | lundmar
[09:07] <lundmar> i see
[09:09] <TJ-> time to read the source, Luke
[09:09] <c0nfuseki> question on IRC, i was once booted for 'join flooding' but i had no idea why my connection dropped out. is there some test i should do?
[09:11] <lundmar> I'm going throught the gnome-termina git history to see if I can spot anything related to this issue.
[09:12] <Mamute666> LOL
[09:13] <lotuspsychje> lundmar: ctrl+0 restores it back to original?
[09:14] <lundmar> lotuspsychje: no
[09:14] <lotuspsychje> lundmar: ah no, thats for the zoom going back
[09:14] <lotuspsychje> nvm
[09:15] <TJ-> right, so in gnome-terminal it looks like a bug in the terminal_window_set_geometry() calls
[09:16] <TJ-> sorry, terminal_window_update_geometry()
[09:16] <lundmar> there is a gnome-terminal geometry related git entry here: https://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-terminal/commit/?id=28d8f12e5024e7278d747f573da671cf97293a69 , not sure it is related or not.
[09:18] <Yuri6037> I'm trying to mess with smbclient
[09:19] <Yuri6037> It detects the computer running win  7 ultimate but no ways to connect
[09:19] <Yuri6037> always getting NT_STATUS_BAD_NETWORK_NAME
[09:19] <ubuntu> hi
[09:21] <Yuri6037> Ok I wrongly typed the folder name now I'm connected
[09:21] <lundmar> thats a bit strange, 16.04 LTS is featuring gnome-terminal 3.18.3 but there is no such tag in gnome-terminal git. hmm.
[09:22] <Othest> oh yeah
[09:22] <Othest> i'm here
[09:22] <lotuspsychje> lundmar: perhaps we should test this also in a live and on the guest account
[09:23] <Othest> i'm using virtualbox
[09:23] <lundmar> lotuspsychje: good idea, i guess that would exclude some registry issues
[09:23] <TJ-> lundmar: there is 3.18.3 tag. which commit was your suspect
[09:23] <Othest> bsi
[09:23] <Othest> bai***
[09:23] <lotuspsychje> lundmar: just tested on sakura also, normal un-maximize also
[09:24] <lundmar> TJ-: my bad, was focusing on master branch there.
[09:25] <Yuri6037> YAY
[09:25] <Yuri6037> I can navigate through a win7 ultimate however it is command line only
[09:26] <lundmar> TJ-: I was looking at https://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-terminal/commit/?id=28d8f12e5024e7278d747f573da671cf97293a69 , which might be a later geometry fix but looking at it now I don't think it is related.
[09:26] <Yuri6037> If I could arrive to create a C++ GUI app for Ubuntu just wrapping smbclient that would be interesting
[09:26] <TJ-> lundmar: git-blame src/terminal-window.c, and look for "g_signal_connect_swapped" ... the commit is last July, which would be about right for something that doesn't affect 15.10 but does 16.04. That code looks to relate to whether tabs are enabled
[09:26] <ioioioioioio> !list
[09:27] <Yuri6037> The question would be how to create an Ubuntu window using pure C++ ?
[09:27] <TJ-> lundmar: the commit is ba2ef8e0
[09:27] <lundmar> TJ-: see it
[09:28] <vijaikumar> hey guys how do i start lightdm with iglx flag enabled ?
[09:31] <lundmar> gezz, thats some hairy gnome code. I think some gnome-terminal folks would love to jump at it. However, it is really strange k1l does not see the same issue on his 16.04 LTS. It points in the direction of maybe a unity/gtk issue rather than a gnome-terminal one.
[09:33] <lundmar> brb, want to test if my guest session has the same gnome-terminal issue.
[09:33] <lotuspsychje> lundmar: ok
[09:34] <ioioioioioio> !list
[09:36] <lundmar> lotuspsychje: same issue :/
[09:36] <lotuspsychje> lundmar: purge and reinstall didnt fix neither here
[09:37] <lundmar> darn
[09:40] <ikonia> Yuri6037: you don't need to create a c++ app, you can access windows computers just fine already in ubuntu/linux in general
[09:41] <Yuri6037> I just want to create a native Ubuntu GUI app for that
[09:41] <TJ-> lundmar: "gtk_widget_queue_resize(...)" in debian/patches/0001-Restore-transparency.patch looks suspicious
[09:41] <Yuri6037> Anyways first I need to arrive to install KDevelop
[09:41] <lundmar> TJ-: oh, so they might have bodged the thing with a patch
[09:43] <Yuri6037> Wow KDevelop is BIG
[09:43] <TJ-> lundmar: I don't know, we'd have to revert that patch and build a test package, but it looks like with transparency it adds a widget to represent the background screen, then all ...resize() which *may* be using the desktop as its reference. I don't have more time now to check that, but I recall seeing a similar bug in gnome-terminal about 8 years ago.
[09:43] <TJ-> lundmar: that's likely findable in Launchpad bug-tracker... probably have my name attached to!
[09:44] <elthommo> hello all. [Q] Is there a way to access previously paid for apps in 16.04 ?
[09:44] <ikonia> Yuri6037: thre is a native ubuntu app for it already
[09:44] <ikonia> Yuri6037: I'm not sure what access you think you're lacking that you need to develop something for
[09:44] <lundmar> TJ-: ok. I'll try checkout a clean 3.18.3 and just compile it against my system to see how it behaves.
[09:45] <chl_> hey, has anyone succesfully changed window manage to gnome on ubuntu 16.04?
[09:46] <Yuri6037> Ok I got KDevelop that's good because I can now probably access C/C++ development in ubuntu
[09:46] <ikonia> Yuri6037: what are you actually trying to build ?
[09:49] <TJ-> lundmar: I *think* I recall this may be an interaction with CCSM (compiz) ... might be worth investigating the settings in C-C-S-M
[09:52] <lundmar> TJ-: I am thinking it could somehow be registry settings related. I mean, if k1l does not see the same issue.
[09:52] <Yuri6037> ikonia my final goal is to get UMod working on linux (it's a C++ Game based on Unreal) and for the moment even a simple Hello World app is not compiling because it can't find specified exe
[09:53] <TJ-> lundmar: also, this hints it could be a theme issue (follow to the upstream theme bug report) bug 1451944
[09:54] <ikonia> exe ??
[09:54] <ikonia> Yuri6037: exe is windows, it shouldn't be looking for exe
[09:55] <^loki^> what is this chat about?
[09:56] <Yuri6037> I know it's strange errors I'm getting... when I'll get KDevelop to compile a simple std::cout << "Hello World"; app I'll tell you
[09:56] <azizLIGHT> unity launcher is mixing up program icons? i launched programs through crossover (like wine) and im seeing that program has a teamviewer icon on the launcher.... uhhh?
[09:56] <Wulf> !topic | ^loki^
[09:57] <azizLIGHT> guess he didnt like that topic
[09:58] <TJ-> Yuri6037: this works fine:  echo -e '#include <iostream>\nint main() {\n std::cout << "Hello World";\n}' > hw.cpp; g++ hw.cpp; ./a.out
[10:02] <Yuri6037> TJ: KDevelop should compile
[10:03] <Yuri6037> And it's not compiling at all
[10:03] <azizLIGHT> how do i tell why an icon on the unity launcher is the way it is? how do i find more info about it
[10:04] <cmxhost> hello
[10:05] <TJ-> Yuri6037: using the same program I just wrote to terminal?
[10:05] <Yuri6037> Seriously if I use an IDE that's to not compile using terminal
[10:06] <Yuri6037> That's how I do things in VS
[10:06] <EriC^^> azizLIGHT: check the .desktpo file
[10:07] <EriC^^> .desktop 8
[10:07] <EriC^^> in /usr/share/applications
[10:08] <c0nfuseki> question on IRC, i was once booted for 'join flooding' but i had no idea why my connection dropped out. is there some test i should do?
[10:09] <EriC^^> c0nfuseki: might be a weak connection coupled with lots of autojoin channels
[10:10] <EriC^^> maybe dmesg will show something
[10:10] <auronandace|work> c0nfuseki: perhaps those in #freenode might be more suited to tackle that question
[10:10] <c0nfuseki> @EriC^^ ah. thank you. how many autojoin channels would be reasonable to have 4 or 5?
[10:10] <EriC^^> i guess
[10:11] <EriC^^> the ones that are big make a difference more on the getting dc
[10:11] <EriC^^> i think
[10:13] <mohit7me> whats it all about?
[10:13] <TJ-> Yuri6037 was missing the qmake and qtcore dev packages I think, I was able to reproduce a problem here if only installing kdevelop itself
[10:13] <mohit7me> what all of you doing here?
[10:13] <auronandace|work> !topic | mohit7me
[10:14] <mohit7me> okay
[10:15] <dullahdullah> #chat
[10:16] <cyanmodx> hi
[10:16] <EriC^^> hi
[10:16] <dullahdullah> hi
[10:16] <TJ-> not enough entropy here
[10:17] <EriC^^> zx
[10:17] <EriC^^> cv
[10:17] <EriC^^> gh
[10:17] <cyanmodx> how's things going on.. ??????
[10:17] <TJ-> !ot | cyanmodx for chatter
[10:19] <kernel_mutex> hi I need to write a manual for GUI application which demonstrate our SDK features. So I need to describe main window.  http://pastebin.com/mfPJ30eM more improvement help?
[10:20] <cyanmodx> I need an help regarding gpg2..???
[10:20] <cyanmodx> this is my first time using this chat
[10:20] <nitish> I am unable to download any application in ubuntu 16.04 lts. how can I fix it? I did sudo apt update.
[10:21] <nitish> cyanmodx: welcome
[10:21] <lundmar> TJ-: after a bit of pain manually compiling gnome-terminal 3.18.3 from git it seems the same issue persists.
[10:21] <TJ-> cyanmodx: what do you need to know?
[10:21] <TJ-> lundmar: I did a little playing with alternate themes but saw no difference but that's hardly conclusive
[10:21] <lundmar> TJ-: so likely we can discount the patches being he problem
[10:21] <ioanm> cyanmodx, i can help you with gpg
[10:21] <lundmar> the*
[10:21] <cyanmodx> when im trying signing deb package using debuild S -sa
[10:22] <cyanmodx> failed to sign
[10:22] <brainwash> !details | nitish
[10:22] <ioanm> cyanmodx, yeah I know exactly how to fix this
[10:22] <cyanmodx> that no secret key available
[10:22] <TJ-> lundmar: you know you can simply build the ubuntu package without the patch, using quilt then dch -i  to update the version, and finally fakeroot debian/rules binary ?
[10:22] <cyanmodx> please help me to sort it out
[10:22] <ioanm> cyanmodx, you need to run debuild -S -sa -k<key id here for private> (obtain key id from gpg --fingerprint)
[10:22] <cyanmodx> tried but failed
[10:22] <ioanm> cyanmodx, please I packaged these things before for launchpad
[10:22] <nitish> I am unable to download any packages in 16.04 lts. always showing package cant be located.
[10:23] <ioanm> cyanmodx, okay then do you have a key?
[10:23] <lundmar> TJ-: no, I'm not much of a debian hacker per say ;)
[10:23] <ioanm> cyanmodx, can you pastebin the entire log?
[10:23] <TJ-> cyanmodx: does your keyring contain the secret and public keys? does the key have a sub-key for signatures?
[10:23] <brainwash> nitish: via terminal? what is the exact terminal output?
[10:23] <brainwash> !pastebin
[10:24] <cyanmodx> yes i got 2diff key one using gpg another one using gpg2
[10:24] <nitish> brainwash: Right now I am using other pc. unable to locate package was the message.
[10:25] <cyanmodx> if im using key id which gen by gpg2 is failing
[10:26] <elthommo> Hi. is there a way to install previously paid for apps in Ubuntu 16.04 ?
[10:26] <brainwash> nitish: I would follow the steps from http://askubuntu.com/questions/378558/unable-to-locate-package-while-trying-to-install-packages-by-apt
[10:26] <auronandace|work> nitish: step 1 should be to verify if your network connection on that machine is working
[10:27] <TJ-> lundmar: all the /debian/patches/ listed in series are applied via 'quilt'. You can do "export QUILT_PATCHES=debian/patches" then "quilt applied" to list patches. You can use "quilt delete ..." to remove the patch from the series, then "quilt pop -a" to revert all patches, then "quilt push -a" to apply all patches listed in patches/series.
[10:27] <nitish> auronandace|work: able to browse websites via browser.
[10:28] <elthommo> thanks @brainwash
[10:28] <TJ-> lundmar: then use "dch -i" to add a new version to debian/changelog, manually edit it to have useful info and a ~123 version suffix, then you can build the binaries with "fakeroot debian/rules binary" ... needs the "build-essential" set of packages installed
[10:29] <elthommo> sorry comment not for me, I still need to understand paid apps
[10:29] <lundmar> TJ-: ok. Well, anyway - I wanted to be on git so I can move between revisions in case some later commits fixes anything.
[10:30] <TJ-> lundmar: right... I use both. I work in the upstream git working dir, but create a new branch off the tag ubuntu used, then unpack the ubuntu package over that and "git add . && git commit "
[10:31] <hateball> elthommo: I'd have a look on launchpad, and if you can't find anything, file a new bug
[10:31] <lundmar> geez, I'm glad I'm not a gnome-terminal maintainer, the configure scripts are somewhat broken and has a zillion dependencies.
[10:32] <elthommo> OK hateball. ta.
[10:33] <FredTheNoob> Good Morning, I'd installed Ubuntu on my USB Flash Drive, it was because my hard drive is dead... I'm wondering if there some way to move that usb OS to my new hd?
[10:33] <hateball> FredTheNoob: You can clone using something like Clonezilla, then resize the partitions
[10:34] <FredTheNoob> great thks hateball
[10:34] <TJ-> lundmar: hence "apt-get build-dep gnome-terminal"
[10:35] <lundmar> TJ-: nah, I prefer to be connected directly to my autotools ;)
[10:37] <lundmar> it seems some dependencies upgrades are required to move gnome-terminal ahead in version so I'm not taking that path.
[10:37] <lundmar> I coulnd't even step i one minor ahead ha ha
[10:37] <nick22222> #fuck the police
[10:38] <lundmar> it*
[10:38] <TJ-> FredTheNoob: that is also possible directly if you boot the USB into its initial ramdisk (by adding "break=init" to the kernel command-line in the GRUB boot entry. That only loads the kernel + initrd with a minimal userspace. There are enough tools there to then do a direct 'dd' copy from the USB onto the other device. Saves some messing about with having to boot alternate OSes to do the cloning
[10:38] <nick22222> this is the education for ma gangsta natiton
[10:39] <FredTheNoob> ohh, good one... i'll try.. thks guy TJ-
[10:40] <TJ-> FredTheNoob: you'll want to also check afterwards that the correct boot-loader parts are in place, e.g. if it is an MBR boot, that you're moving over the GRUB bootstrap code from sector 0 (first 440 bytes). If you're cloning the entire thing including the partitions you can ignore that though
[10:41] <coin> hey noobs
[10:41] <coin> what do you think of UNIX?
[10:41] <coin> do you like it?
[10:41] <k1l> coin: stop that trolling.
[10:41] <coin> k1l, i was asking ur linuxgus opinion of openbsd
[10:41] <TJ-> FredTheNoob: but if you're only copying partition contents, you'll need to take the extra steps to ensure the boot-strap code is there. (oh and a tip - the initramfs does have 'chroot' available, so once you've cloned you can mount the target and chroot into it and run "grub-install" and so forth
[10:43] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[10:46] <walde> Hi -- snapd find doesn't seem to work behind a proxy with the environment variables http(s)_proxy (as well not in capital letters). is there a way to configure snapd for proxy use?
[10:47] <walde> snap find, not snapd find, of course
[10:55] <Cloudblow> join #citra
[10:57] <rohith> how can i find the configurations options for a apt package
[10:57] <rohith> like for mysql I would need mysql root password
[10:57] <rohith> I want to find the options for unattended installation
[11:05] <TJ-> rohith: look at the package's debconf file, if the package is installed then "grep 'mysql' /var/cache/debconf/confg.dat" should indicate any debconf options
[11:08] <WoodyPC> What program would you guys recommend for deleting a partition and formatting a hard drive?
[11:08] <auronandace|work> WoodyPC: i like to use gparted
[11:10] <WoodyPC> thanks
[11:10] <soupnanodesukar> WoodyPC: I use partitionmanager or sfdisk if you're on the terminal
[11:12] <Bish> help, i just updated mysql, and it's not coming up again
[11:12] <shad> yo?
[11:12] <NinjaRamboNinja> hello
[11:12] <Bish> without any errormsg
[11:12] <Bish> what do
[11:12] <Bish> HLEP
[11:12] <NinjaRamboNinja> et souris
[11:12] <lundmar> TJ-: I tried enabling some debugin gnome-terminal, I do see this message: org.gnome.Terminal[10148]: Gtk-Message: GtkDialog mapped without a transient parent. This is discouraged.
[11:12] <shad> whaaat?
[11:13] <NinjaRamboNinja> #quit
[11:16] <soupnanodesukar> Bish: "what do" zen meditate on your keyboard? my squirrel may be porting internal formats if you can see a process with ps.
[11:18] <_andre> hello
[11:18] <_andre> anyone using Ondrej's ppa for PHP 5.6 on xenial? https://launchpad.net/~ondrej/+archive/ubuntu/php5-5.6
[11:18] <TJ-> lundmar: did that happen when you caused a dialog to be opened or just using the main window/tab ?
[11:19] <TJ-> lundmar: i think the 'tabs' are done via dialogs
[11:20] <lundmar> TJ-: I just managed to enable debug. It turns out that it is a client/server model so I had to enable debug for server to have it spew out anything useful. There is a GNOME_TERMINAL_DEBUG=geometry option I'm testing right now.
[11:20] <ioanm> TJ-, say are you that TJ the partner of IBM?
[11:21] <soupnanodesukar> _andre: php is up to version 7. I write my scripts with the latest version.
[11:21] <TJ-> lundmar: good work! :)
[11:24] <soupnanodesukar> Bish: https://a.uguu.se/dnpatt_scr252.png <- this may be the cause of your sql server not coming up, especially if you have no error.
[11:25] <TJ-> lundmar: you're starting /usr/lib/gnome-terminal/gnome-terminal-server --gdk-debug=... ?
[11:27] <lundmar> TJ-: I'm just starting my custom client/server built with the --enable-debug option and then starting server GNOME_TERMINAL_DEBUG=geometry ./gnome-terminal-server before starting gnome-terminal
[11:27] <noname> help
[11:27] <noname> test
[11:27] <EriC^^> anybody familiar with init can't find /dev/sr0 on booting an iso from grub?
[11:28] <lundmar> TJ-: I get stuff like this for output: http://pastebin.com/0ViYZVT9
[11:28] <lundmar> not really that useful
[11:29] <lundmar> I'll try GNOME_TERMINAL_DEBUG=all instead
[11:30] <TestIrchatNICK> hi
[11:30] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: mentions something about casper: https://www.linuxliteos.com/forums/installing-linux-lite/boot-iso-from-grub/
[11:30] <EriC^^> lotuspsychje: thank you
[11:32] <TJ-> lundmar: that's very helpful. it shows what is going wrong
[11:32] <lundmar> TJ-: there is also another procedure hinted here so one can run seperate sesssion: https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Terminal/Debugging
[11:33] <bozsikarmand> Hi!
[11:34] <TJ-> lundmar: looking at the 'restore' sequence, the window initially resizes to the original size, but then it takes the dimensions from the screen object
[11:34] <TJ-> lundmar: line 25 of your paste
[11:35] <lundmar> TJ-: great you can make sense of the numbers :) . So, you think it is gnome-terminal failing or wm/unity?
[11:35] <bozsikarmand> At 16.04 I cannot install Steam by GUI way. Is it a known bug?
[11:35] <lundmar> who owns the screen object?
[11:35] <TJ-> lundmar: I'd install the debug symbols, run it under gdb, and put breakpoints at the places where the signal for unmaximize/restore call-back code is
[11:36] <BluesKaj> EriC^^, can you direct us to a tutorial for dealing with eufi boot problems that occur after users install 'buntu. We seem to be getting a lot of users asking how to fix grub not appearing after an install.
[11:36] <TJ-> lundmar: add the debug packages from the ddebs repository, instructions here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProgramCrash
[11:36] <dev\null> Hello people, I need help install ZSH theme. Is it the right channel to ask in ?
[11:37] <TJ-> lundmar: then work with the installed ubuntu package version, since gdb is configured to automatically pick up the symbols for archive packages
[11:39] <ecouteamicale> hello everyone
[11:40] <TJ-> lundmar: I'd be tempted to use a gdb "break terminal_window_update_geometry" so on each entry to that method you can grab a stack backtrace with "bt" or "bt full" and see the call stack functions
[11:41] <TJ-> lundmar: with "bt full" it should show the arguments passed so you may easily catch the call that is using the screen coordinates, and from its call stack work back to the source-code where that is triggered
[11:41] <ecouteamicale> I wonder if it's possible to prepare a virtual machine (in VirtualBox for example) with all the programs needed, and then install this VM on a real machine (which is not connected to the internet).
[11:41] <TJ-> ecouteamicale: yes
[11:42] <ecouteamicale> TJ-: could you please give me some tips, or a webpage where I could learn how to proceed
[11:42] <TJ-> ecouteamicale: if the VM image format uses a 'raw' disk format then you can simply cp/dd the image directly to a disk
[11:42] <lundmar> TJ-: I'll give it a quick try with my current build, just to catch the bt
[11:43] <TJ-> lundmar: ok, as long as you have the debug symbols built in and not stripped. Else you'll need to tell gdb how to find them
[11:43] <lundmar> TJ-: sure
[11:43] <lundmar> TJ-: they are not stripped, should be okay unless debug is not included
[11:43] <ecouteamicale> TJ-: ok thanks, do you know how I could use a USB key ? I just can't remove the hard drive from the computer
[11:45] <lassegs_> Hi. Im in the process of upgrading BIOS from bootable USB, but it warns about updating when Microsoft Bitlocker encryption is enabled. I dont have MS Bitlocker, but I have encrypted the Ubuntu disk. Should I avoid updating BIOS when disks are encrypted?
[11:45] <ecouteamicale> I mean, can I package the thing and have a kind of "install process" ?
[11:45] <lassegs_> It mentions that I should temporarily disable Bitlocker. Can I temporarily disable linux encryption?
[11:46] <madduck> Following the 16.04 upgrade, my desktop no longer has a window manager, unity starter or GNOME status bar. wtf?
[11:46] <TJ-> ecouteamicale: yes, the method works for any directly bootable block device
[11:47] <ecouteamicale> TJ-: I've found what I needed, for the record : http://askubuntu.com/questions/32499/migrate-from-a-virtual-machine-vm-to-a-physical-system
[11:47] <TJ-> ecouteamicale: you'd need a minimal 'install' shell script to do the image copy to the target of course
[11:47] <ecouteamicale> TJ-: thank you for your help
[11:47] <lotuspsychje> madduck: wich ubuntu version did you came from?
[11:48] <madduck> lotuspsychje: 15.10
[11:48] <TJ-> madduck: how about the Guest login? if that is OK then there's something in the user's .config/ causing an issue
[11:48] <lotuspsychje> madduck: you could try a sudo service lightdm restart perhaps
[11:48] <madduck> TJ-: I have auto-login enabled and I don't know how to even switch users without a menu
[11:48] <marco__> hallo
[11:48] <lotuspsychje> !de | marco__
[11:48] <TJ-> madduck: Ctrl+Alt+F1, log-in, edit the lightdm.conf to disable autologin, then test
[11:50] <madduck> TJ-: guest login works. Ok, so it's a user config issue. That's progress, thank you. Still not happy-making though…
[11:51] <madduck> it's not under ~/.config/unity
[11:51] <TJ-> madduck: what I usually do is create a brand new user, log-in as it to prove it works corretly, then I 'diff' the .config/ directories of both users looking for file-names, and content, that seems related to the window manager, unity, compositor, etc
[11:52] <madduck> TJ-: I was hoping not to have to spend hours on a stable upgrade for a single machine, and I am on 3 hours already.
[11:52] <madduck> it's not ~/.config/compiz-1
[11:53] <EriC^^> madduck: try ~/.gconf
[11:53] <TJ-> madduck: any clues in the failing user's ~/.xsession-errors ?
[11:53] <madduck> EriC^^: nope :(
[11:53] <EriC^^> madduck: what are you experiencing?
[11:53] <madduck> EriC^^: no menu bars, window decorations, gnome status bar etc.
[11:53] <madduck> just desktop with icons and context menu.
[11:54] <TJ-> EriC^^: 15.10>16.04 unity upgrade, no window manager equipment but works for Guest login
[11:54] <madduck> TJ-: empty file.
[11:54] <TJ-> madduck: very useful - not! :D
[11:54] <lotuspsychje> madduck: tell us wich graphics card chipset you have also?
[11:55] <EriC^^> madduck: maybe try the whole of ~/.config if you don't have any special stuff there?
[11:55] <madduck> lotuspsychje: VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Broadwell-U Integrated Graphics (rev 09)
[11:55] <TJ-> madduck: is there anything saved under .config/gnome-session/saved-session/ ?
[11:55] <Eightynine> Hi. I tried Unity 8 and it doesn't work. I had only desktop and panel. Is it normal?
[11:56] <madduck> Integrated Graphics Chipset: Intel(R) HD Graphics 5500
[11:56] <lotuspsychje> madduck: ok tnx
[11:56] <lassegs_> Follow up question: Can you temporarily disable full disk encryption?
[11:56] <EriC^^> lassegs_: what are you trying to achieve?
[11:56] <lotuspsychje> !unity8 | Eightynine
[11:56] <madduck> TJ-: nothing :(
[11:56] <lassegs_> EriC^^: upgrading bios, but it warns me that i shouldnt do it while having encryption on
[11:56] <lotuspsychje> Eightynine: did you install it this way?
[11:57] <EriC^^> lassegs_: use another hard disk maybe?
[11:57] <Teaboy> anyone having problems with resuming from standby?
[11:57] <madduck> EriC^^: moving ~/.config out of the way gets rid of the problem (as expected). I guess I will have to get dirty…
[11:57] <trijntje> Eightynine: how did you know it doesn't work?
[11:58] <Eightynine> No I installed unity8 via Synaptic and cooldn't find it and then found article about installing unity8-desktop-session-mir
[11:58] <TJ-> madduck: how about under .cache/compizconfig-1/ ?
[11:58] <lotuspsychje> Eightynine: unity8 is also still work in progress
[11:58] <Eightynine> I couldn't open any apps, I haven't dock
[11:58] <lundmar> TJ-: http://pastebin.com/ts7Lkf7P
[11:59] <lotuspsychje> Eightynine: wich ubuntu version are you on?
[11:59] <libbw> Is anyone in here familiar with live migration and lxd? I just put up two kvms and some containers in one of em and want to try the live migration feature. I have added each server with lxd remote and all that. it works. I just cant find any up to date article on how to properly do it. All i find is really old articles that is probably not up to date, my general feeling when eying it over.
[11:59] <TJ-> lundmar: can you do  "bt full" to get the arguments?
[12:00] <Eightynine> Thank yo, lotuspsychje:
[12:00] <Eightynine> I mean thank you.
[12:00] <madduck> TJ-: good idea about ~/.cache, but removing the entire tree has no effect, even.
[12:00] <Eightynine> I'm on 16.04
[12:00] <TJ-> lundmar: also, looks like you need to install the debug symbol packages for the libraries
[12:01] <lundmar> TJ-: let me retrace
[12:02] <lotuspsychje> Eightynine: tried a reboot and login to unity8?
[12:03] <lundmar> TJ-: one interesting thing though. When I'm slowly stepping through your suggested breakpoint (which is called multiple times ofc) I actually manage to get the terminal window to minimize/restor back to original size. Indication of a message timing issue?
[12:03] <djmentos> hello, I cannot install gfs server under xenial, any ideas how to solve it?
[12:03] <djmentos> http://paste.ubuntu.com/16047420/
[12:03] <lundmar> I assume some sort of gobject/dbus messaging is involved which could go wrong.
[12:04] <Eightynine> I found that it will be released later, so it's still in testing. And correct way to install sudo apt install unity8-lxcit is
[12:04] <TJ-> lundmar: I'd expect that, your original pastebin showed it initially resizes correctly, then takes on the screen dimensions and resizes 'up'
[12:04] <TJ-> lundmar: if you keep on stepping I'd expect you to hit the call that (after continuing) results in the 'up' sizing
[12:04] <lotuspsychje> !unity8 > Eightynine have a nice read :p
[12:05] <lundmar> TJ-: let me retrace to check for that
[12:05] <Eightynine> Yes, I saw it.
[12:05] <lotuspsychje> djmentos: do you have external ppa's added?
[12:05] <TJ-> lundmar: that was why I recommend a the debug symbols and using 'bt full' since on the breakpoint you will likeely see the arguments showing the 1910x900 or whatever dimensions being passed
[12:06] <Eightynine> Looks like Unity8 is mostly for phones and it's lighter then Unity7
[12:07] <lotuspsychje> Eightynine: its also for meant for tablets running ubuntu-desktop
[12:07] <TJ-> lundmar: looks like either the 3rd or 4th break would be it, depending if the pastebin's debug messages directly correlate to the terminal_window_update_geometry() calls or not
[12:07] <Eightynine> sudo apt install unity8-lxc it's not working for some reason
[12:07] <lotuspsychje> Eightynine: errors?
[12:08] <Eightynine> It says package not found
[12:08] <lotuspsychje> Eightynine: sudo apt install unity8-desktop-session-mir
[12:09] <rodlogic> does anyone know when will the final Xenial 16.04 ec2 ami be available on AWS?
[12:10] <lotuspsychje> Eightynine: or sudo apt install unity8
[12:10] <Eightynine> I tried that and it worked bad. Maybe because of drivers?
[12:10] <lotuspsychje> Eightynine: holdon, lemme install myself
[12:11] <Eightynine> I had to remove it and then came here to ask what's wrong.
[12:11] <lotuspsychje> Eightynine: how did you remove, what?
[12:12] <TJ-> rodlogic: you'd need to check this, but recently I was involved in the images and I think found out the AWS images originate from https://partner-images.canonical.com/core/
[12:12] <Teaboy> anyone know how to debug broken resume? kern.log and syslog both show loads of ^@ at the moment of standby
[12:12] <ksx4system> what is the pptpd speed limit? in theory there isn't one, in practice I wasn't able to surpass 16mbit/s between two computers on 100mbit/s line
[12:13] <Eightynine> sudo apt purge unity8--desktop-session-mir and then removed unity8 using Synaptic
[12:13] <lundmar> TJ-: first break at unmaximize action: http://pastebin.com/DVGZ4qyJ
[12:13] <lotuspsychje> Eightynine: im installing with: sudo apt install unity8, ill let you know if i get it working
[12:13] <jayjo> is it possible to use PAM if I have users that don't have passwords. Can I establish passwords for the users without being root?
[12:14] <lotuspsychje> brb
[12:14] <Teaboy> skylake woes
[12:14] <Eightynine> I tried that too and it didn't appear in lightdm
[12:15] <lundmar> TJ-: second break, window now in 99% window size mode: http://pastebin.com/eEnk35zx
[12:16] <lundmar> only diff is some padding
[12:16] <lundmar> which i guess translates to some geometry size
[12:16] <craptalk> since chrome doenst support ubuntu-32 bit, whats better and lightweight also convenient browser there will be?
[12:16] <rodlogic> TJ-: thanks. The latest AMI I can find on ec2 is a beta-2 from March and I couldn't find any references on the web in terms of release dates
[12:17] <craptalk> it seems worse everytime i force to use it
[12:17] <TJ-> lundmar: *negative* padding?
[12:17] <lundmar> TJ-: i have no idea
[12:17] <TJ-> rodlogic: I handled a bug report on that a few weeks ago, not seem its latest status though
[12:18] <rodlogic> TJ-: and I can't find any xenial on http://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/locator/ec2/
[12:18] <rodlogic> TJ-: I see so there may still be issues there
[12:18] <rodlogic> do you have the url to the bug tracking system?
[12:18] <rodlogic> I can try to find out
[12:19] <TJ-> rodlogic: ahhh bug 1567349
[12:19] <TJ-> rodlogic: so, unrelated to the totally missing images problem :)
[12:21] <rodlogic> TJ-: :-) It's a start. I find no comments about the missing AMIs on the web
[12:21] <NewUser2016> Under Windows I have this: VPN then SSH then Proxifier which proxifier the full system
[12:21] <NewUser2016> How can I do it under ubuntu
[12:21] <TJ-> rodlogic: I had some discussions about it in either #ubuntu-server or #ubuntu-devel; I forget now, but one of those channels should have devs responsible for it
[12:22] <rodlogic> TJ-: thank you
[12:22] <TJ-> lundmar: so we need to understand how the method uses those padding structure values
[12:23] <lotuspsychje> Eightynine: cant get it working either
[12:23] <teward> rodlogic: there's non-technical blockers blocking the EC2 images
[12:23] <teward> rodlogic: they'll be available as soon as they can be - no timeline
[12:23] <Eightynine> So this is normal. Will know.
[12:24] <lotuspsychje> Eightynine: getting a black screen after login to 8?
[12:24] <ksa_> Is support for "preseed" in a kickstart file removed in 16.04?
[12:24] <TJ-> lundmar: step into the method and watch the values assigned to the hints structure before the call to gtk_window_set_geometry_hints()
[12:24] <Eightynine> Yes, but you can fix that. Ctrl-Alt-F2, then login then sudo systemctl stop lightdm and then sudo systemctl start lightdm
[12:25] <mariogrip> is there known bug that nvidia proprietary drivers not working in 16.04? I tested 15.10 and they work perfectly
[12:25] <NewUser2016> How can I proxifier all connections in my system without special rules for programs?
[12:25] <rodlogic> teward: Sounds good. Do you have a gut feeling whether this is days/weeks/months? Thanks
[12:25] <teward> rodlogic: see the cross-channel ping I gave you (aka #ubuntu-server)
[12:26] <rodlogic> teward: thanks a million
[12:27] <TJ-> teward: "non-technical" ... the person with the upload key lost their laptop? :P
[12:29] <teward> TJ-: E:InsufficientInformation
[12:29] <teward> TJ-: i was just direct-quoting :P:
[12:30] <TJ-> teward: i was watching :)
[12:36] <madduck> TJ-, EriC^^, lotuspsychje: ~/.config/dconf/user contains the problem. Now bisecting the diff…
[12:36] <lundmar> TJ-: really strange breakpoint hit behaviour, it seems messages are kind of following some sort of relaxed scheduling. Sometimes I can go back and forth between windows without update is called.
[12:36] <madduck> oh, it's a binary file. ffs.
[12:40] <TJ-> madduck: use "dconf-editor"
[12:40] <ubuntu> test
[12:40] <Guest93068> test
[12:40] <Guest93068> Hello, wget is giving error: Cannot write to URL. How can I fix this?
[12:40] <madduck> TJ-: by now, I will just live with a new dconf database
[12:40] <madduck> 4 hours into this upgrade
[12:41] <usr13> Guest93068: We'd need to know more about the incident.
[12:41] <TJ-> lundmar: well its all event-driven with signals and callbacks isn't it? also, if you're going between windows that aren't overlapped and therefore there is no 'damage' to repaint, then that would make sense since only the frame needs its focus indicator painting
[12:41] <LetoThe2nd> howdy! what might be reasons a pre-stop script isn't called on reboot in upstart? it works fine when the service is manually stopped
[12:41] <TJ-> Guest93068: what does "cat /etc/issue" report?
[12:41] <Guest93068> usr13: sorry. I'm trying to download with command wget http://bit.ly/1WlAUJo
[12:42] <LetoThe2nd> shouldn't "stop on runlevel [016]" properly trigger that?
[12:43] <Guest93068> Error: http://dpaste.com/116F9D1
[12:44] <usr13> Guest25033: atlassian-jira-software-7.1.4-jira-7.1.4-x64.bin ?
[12:45] <TJ-> Guest11179: it tells you right there! "1WlAUJo: Read-only file system"
[12:45] <suresh_> suresh-ubuntu
[12:45] <suresh_> hai
[12:45] <almark> btw will ubuntu 14.04 stick with thunderbird 38.something?
[12:45] <TJ-> k1l: I wondered how long you'd take to see that :p
[12:45] <suresh_> can i know how to install php5-mysql in ubuntu 16.04
[12:45] <teward> suresh_: I have a blog post on that, 1 moment
[12:46] <Frjd> Hi, I have a problem with kswapd0 getting to 100% cpu usage and then staying there even though I have a lot of available ram. doing echo 3 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_chache temporarily solves the problem
[12:46] <usr13> Guest25033: It says Read-only file system
[12:46] <usr13> Guest25033: pwd  #what does that say?
[12:46] <teward> suresh_: http://dark-net.net/?p=128 <-- PHP 5 is not available in 16.04.  Use this method at your own risk as you forfeit Ubuntu updates and security support for both php5 and php7 with this method.
[12:47] <lundmar> TJ-: you are likely right
[12:47] <usr13> Guest25033: wget -c https://www.atlassian.com/software/jira/post-download?file=https://www.atlassian.com/software/jira/downloads/binary/atlassian-jira-software-7.1.4-jira-7.1.4-x64.bin
[12:48] <usr13> Guest25033: But first, cd to the directory where you want to save the file.
[12:48] <suresh_> teaward:  thank u
[12:55] <Frjd> No one else that has encountered kswapd0 taking absurd amounts of resources when the computer is idle on ubuntu 16.04?
[13:00] <TheFocus> Evening - Any ideas how to fix the time issue with 16.04???  Duel boot.
[13:00] <EriC^^_> .
[13:04] <ulot0> hello
[13:04] <ulot0> how are you
[13:04] <ulot0> 有人吗
[13:05] <ulot0> 中国人
[13:05] <cfhowlett> !cn | ulot0
[13:05] <ulot0> ！cn
[13:05] <youzi> 有
[13:05] <ulot0> 你好啊
[13:05] <adam_g2> quit
[13:05] <youzi> 好啊
[13:05] <ulot0> 你在哪个国家？
[13:05] <cfhowlett> youi ulot English only in this channel
[13:06] <youzi> 中国
[13:06] <xan_IT> i have a pc seams incompatible with GDM need help
[13:07] <EriC^^_> .
[13:12] <lundmar> TJ-: looks like we are not hitting gtk_window_set_geometry_hints
[13:12] <hiya> how to update the Intel graphics in 14.04?
[13:12] <lundmar> TJ-: when unmaximizing that is
[13:13] <k1l> hiya: try the latest hwe kernel
[13:13] <k1l> !hwe | hiya
[13:15] <Guest80316> !list
[13:15] <Guest80316> !bot
[13:17] <Guest80316> http://www.risorsegeek.it/configurazioni/guidatutto-su-mirc-parte-1
[13:18] <Cloudblow> anyone have solution for use gdm3 from ubuntu gnome 16.04 with nvidia driver? I've try lightdm and work fine.
[13:18] <sylvain31> Hi, xubuntu 16.04 libreoffice draw doesn't start any hint ?
[13:19] <xan_IT> hi to all, i do fresh install of ubuntu gnome 16.04 to a netbook. live install works perfectly but on reboot freeze on boot. if i remove GDM3 all works fine. NEED HELP i think is a bug of GDM
[13:19] <ace> why can i install ubutu tweak anymore ?
[13:19] <cfhowlett> sylvain31, best support for libreoffice is not #ubuntu.  see libreoffice help and support options
[13:19] <sylvain31> cfhowlett, ok but writer and is working
[13:20] <usr13> Guest60094: What are you trying to do here?
[13:20] <sylvain31> cfhowlett, ok but writer and calc is working, may a packaging problem?
[13:20] <cfhowlett> and this is still ubuntu support NOT libreoffice support sylvain31 .  see LIBREOFFICE help and support menu
[13:20] <cfhowlett> are do you mean it would not install???
[13:20] <ace> indeed
[13:22] <Cloudblow> xan_IT: nvidia has you nvidia gpu?
[13:22] <Cloudblow> have*
[13:22] <hegu> does anyone know of a way to remove the firefox titlebar in gnome? pref all the titlebars. in xfce there was an easy theme to make for that but i've been unable to find a solution for gnome
[13:22] <xan_IT> Cloudblow no intel gma500
[13:22] <xan_IT> lightdm works, gdm no
[13:22] <sylvain31> cfhowlett, the package is installed. OK I found the bug, never mind. ;)
[13:23] <Cloudblow> xan_IT: I've black screen and tty1-7 all with jobs pending. Replaced with lightdm work well, I think it is a problem with HW acceleration
[13:24] <Cloudblow> I try also diasable wayland from /etc/gdm3/custom.conf with is it disable yet
[13:24] <xan_IT> Cloudblow seams same problem. you have nvidia GPU?
[13:24] <xan_IT> ubuntu gnome 16 use wayland as default ?
[13:25] <k1l> xan_IT: no
[13:25] <Cloudblow> Yes nvidia 750m and intel graphic 4600
[13:27] <Cloudblow> Intel graphic work well with gdm
[13:27] <ioanm> Cloudblow, intel hds don't work with * well :)
[13:28] <joao> alguem ai
[13:28] <cfhowlett> !br
[13:28] <psylocke> im having problems upgrading to 16.04, i have 3rd party applications installed and the dist upgrade bugs out on them, is there any way for workaround or do i need to uninstall the packages
[13:30] <ChaosMageX> I like how Windows plays a chime whenever you plug in new hardware to a USB port or HDMI port or other port.  Is there a way to get Linux Ubuntu to do that?
[13:30] <xan_IT> k1l so seams a bug of GDM
[13:31] <ChaosMageX> Is there a way to get Ubuntu to play a sound whenever new hardware is plugged into the computer?
[13:31] <joao> alguem podeme ajudar
[13:31] <cfhowlett> !patience | ChaosMageX,
[13:33] <ChaosMageX> Ah, okay, thank you.
[13:33] <TJ-> ChaosMageX: you could add a udev rule that executes a command to do that on an 'add' event
[13:34] <ChaosMageX> Ah, okay.  How exactly do I do that?  I'm rather new to Ubuntu since I've used Windows most of the time.
[13:36] <ChaosMageX> Is there a good online tutorial for creating these "udev rules"?
[13:36] <TJ-> ChaosMageX: 'udev' is the userspace device manager, it receives all kernel events about hardware changes and processes them according to text-based rules files. The rules files shipped with system packages are in /lib/udev/rules.d/   you can add your own rules at /etc/udev/rules.d/
[13:36] <Harry-GAA001> Hi folks, not sure if anyone has experience with TCAdmin but I've installed it today and when I try to open the web panel, it tells me "error connection refused". I thought it might be an issue with the firewall and port blocking but as far as I can tell the port is set to allow access.
[13:36] <srg> I've heard on Twitter by several people that 16.04 is breaking some boot stuff. Is there a known issue?
[13:36] <bunjee> how do I find what version of Linux I'm running?
[13:37] <srg> bunjee: uname -a
[13:37] <k1l> bunjee: "uname -a"
[13:37] <cfhowlett> srg, too vague to even begin to answer
[13:37] <hamsee> check the box it came in bunjee?
[13:37] <bunjee> srg: thanx
[13:37] <hamsee> np
[13:37] <srg> cfhowlett: Sorry, "are there any known issues regarding the 16.04 upgrade breaking shit"
[13:37] <k1l> srg: if you mean the ubuntu version: "lsb_release -d"
[13:37] <k1l> bunjee:  if you mean the ubuntu version: "lsb_release -d"
[13:37] <cfhowlett> ... not sure if trolling
[13:37] <k1l> srg: sorry, wrong nick
[13:37] <cfhowlett> !language
[13:38] <srg> I'm not trolling. Sorry about the language. NEvermind, I'll hold off upgrading.
[13:38] <bunjee> k1l: ok
[13:38] <k1l> srg: no, there are no known issues. read the release notes.
[13:38] <cfhowlett> srg, if you are on 14.04 you still have years left.  personally, I will wait until 16.04.1
[13:38] <hamsee> k1l_ is a pedophile - a child molester - DONT give him ANY personal info. Unfortunately there are many pedophiles who work as mods here, and help each other. k1l_ is a pedophile
[13:38] <hamsee> :)k1l_ is a pedophile - a child molester - DONT give him ANY personal info. Unfortunately there are many pedophiles who work as mods here, and help each other. k1l_ is a pedophile
[13:38] <hamsee> ,k1l_ is a pedophile - a child molester - DONT give him ANY personal info. Unfortunately there are many pedophiles who work as mods here, and help each other. k1l_ is a pedophile
[13:38] <cfhowlett> !ops | hamsee
[13:39] <sorinel1o> Hello. I am trying to upgrade from 15.10 to 16.04 using the update manager (Software Updater app). When clicking the Upgrade button and typing my password, the window simply vanishes.
[13:39] <bunjee> k1l: that worked - thanx!
[13:40] <usr13> sorinel1o: Make sure 15.10 is fully updated first.
[13:40] <Harry-GAA001> Sorry, I should have said I'm running ubuntu 16.04 and I installed TCAdmin, I think I've opened the 8880 port to allow me to connect to TCAdmin via the web panel but I get Error Connection Refused. Can anyone help me to identify what might be causing the wrror
[13:40] <sorinel1o> usr13, it is
[13:42] <sorinel1o> usr13, starting it from terminal: update-maanger -d .... will freeze at "Checking for a new Ubuntu release", without seeing a GUI
[13:42] <TJ-> ChaosMageX: after some research looks like you need a simple rule that executes "paplay /usr/share/sounds/freedesktop/stereo/device-added.oga"
[13:42] <bishops> Hi all, how do I know why my boot time is slow?
[13:43] <usr13> sorinel1o: Try from CLI
[13:43] <sorinel1o> usr13, this is what I was doing, read my line from above
[13:43] <designbybeck> Anyone have problems installing .deb in16.04? I get a progression box icon, but it doesn't do anything on a number of .debsI've tried. The latest being Chrome
[13:45] <Harry-GAA001> I am trying to access my server web panel and the connection is refused, can anyone point me in the direction of error logs to look at so I can identify the issue?
[13:45] <usr13> sorinel1o: sudo do-release-upgrade
[13:45] <snadge> guest file sharing is broken in xenial?
[13:45] <xan_IT> i have found a bug in GDM need help to found some log or other to send to dev
[13:45] <snadge> i just get permission denied, even though its set to allow guest
[13:46] <usr13> snadge: Probably need to log out of guest and back in as original user.
[13:47] <voyager1> 16.04 lts is release?
[13:47] <Pici> voyager1: yep, on the 21st.
[13:47] <k1l> voyager1: yes
[13:47] <voyager1> i can upgrade
[13:48] <k1l> voyager1: what ubuntu version are you on?
[13:48] <voyager1> 14.04 lts
[13:48] <k1l> !ltsupgrade | voyager1
[13:48] <voyager1> thanks
[13:48] <inspiron> full screen in youtube goes black and locks computer Mate 16.04
[13:49] <snadge> usr13: what i mean is.. if i share a folder.. eg.. right click folder .. share properties .. local network share.. tick  share this folder.. tick guest access.. restart pc, restart samba.. computer over the network accessing it gets permission denied
[13:49] <snadge> this used to work in 15.10
[13:49] <usr13> snadge: Try loging in as original user.
[13:50] <snadge> i am
[13:50] <Harry-GAA001> I need help please. I have installed vsftpd but I can't connect via filezilla. I get Response:	500 OOPS: vsftpd: refusing to run with writable root inside chroot() Error:	Critical error: Could not connect to server
[13:50] <snadge> so im sharing as .. snadge.. which is the only login on my pc
[13:50] <usr13> snadge: There are a number of reasons why a network share will not work.  Is it from a MS computer?
[13:51] <snadge> either windows.. or another ubuntu system
[13:51] <usr13> snadge: Ok, well, would have to have more details to troubleshoot a network share problem.
[13:51] <voyager1> see yo
[13:51] <voyager1> see you late
[13:52] <voyager1> later
[13:52] <dixonstalbert> smadge: check /etc/samba/smb.conf config file to see if guest access allowed
[13:52] <usr13> snadge: If you are sharing with another Linux system, I would suggest using nfs
[13:52] <snadge> hmm.. if i connect to it with smbclient, and auth as snadge with my password.. i get access denied on dir
[13:53] <snadge> probably a usershare issue.. i bet if i manually create the share it will probably work
[13:54] <snadge> [2016/04/25 23:41:27.744824,  0] ../source3/param/loadparm.c:3245(process_usershare_file)
[13:54] <snadge>   process_usershare_file: stat of /var/lib/samba/usershares/share failed. Permission denied
[13:55] <dixonstalbert> smadge: are shares properly listed in sudo smbtree
[13:56] <sorinel1o> usr13, it worked, thanks. Might be a bug in Software Updater
[13:57] <snadge> dixonstalbert.. it appears not
[13:57] <snadge> i just get "WORKGROUP" anyway
[13:57] <snadge> if i reboot back into ubuntu 15.10 then it works.. but im trying to get away from that :P
[13:58] <usr13> Harry-GAA001: edit /etc/vsftpd.conf
[13:58] <dixonstalbert> smadge: check testparm
[13:58] <usr13> sorinel1o: Very good.
[13:58] <dixonstalbert> if they look okay try sudo service smbd restart and sudo service nmbd restart to flush samba
[13:58] <TvL2386> anybody know a good ftp server for ubuntu and a web panel for managing users?
[13:59] <TvL2386> no webmin stuff
[13:59] <usr13> Harry-GAA001: http://www.liquidweb.com/kb/how-to-install-and-configure-vsftpd-on-ubuntu-14-04-lts/
[13:59] <usr13> TvL2386: proftpd
[14:00] <TvL2386> usr13, I've been looking at http://proftpd-adm.sourceforge.net/page_screenshot.php but all the things I find seem to be a bit outdated
[14:01] <Harry-GAA001> usr13 - edit what specifically in there? I'm pretty sure I've been in there already to edit something
[14:02] <b0s3d> hello :)
[14:02] <usr13> TvL2386: vsftpd
[14:02] <b0s3d> i just got my ubuntu tablet in the mail
[14:02] <usr13> !info vsftpd | TvL2386
[14:02] <Harry-GAA001> user13 - I have anonymous_enable set to NO already, what else
[14:02] <b0s3d> i have some question due to the tablet, can i ask them here ?
[14:03] <bennabiy> Does 16.04 support ZFS on install?
[14:03] <k1l> bennabiy: iirc the installer cant create zfs for root partitions
[14:03] <cfhowlett> bennabiy, yes
[14:03] <usr13> Harry-GAA001: Try connecting via CLI
[14:04] <cfhowlett> !zfs | bennabiy
[14:04] <usr13> Harry-GAA001: (Maybe the errors you get will lead to a better clue.)
[14:04] <de-facto> does anyone here know how to install google-earth on Xenial? it seems it requires lsb-core which is not avail in xenial...
[14:04] <pijinn> can anyone help with launching steam games? the #ubuntu-steam channel is pretty quiet
[14:05] <poops> trying to install cifs-utils on xubuntu 16.04. get error that package does not exist. any idea?
[14:05] <cfhowlett> pijinn, steampowered.com has a support option
[14:06] <usr13> !info cifs-utils | poops
[14:06] <poops> hmm, seems cant find any packages.
[14:06] <bazhang> !info googleearth-package | de-facto
[14:07] <le_pig> poops: what do you see when you type: apt-cache policy cifs-utils
[14:07] <tgm4883> pijinn: Try #steamlug I thought the #ubuntu-steam was shutdown
[14:07] <de-facto> bazhang have you successfully tried that on xenial?
[14:07] <usr13> Harry-GAA001: Remember to restart vsftpd after editing config file.
[14:07] <poops> http://screenpresso.com/=D2sNf
[14:08] <bennabiy> cfhowlett: Thank you, but that did not tell me any more than I already knew
[14:08] <bennabiy> k1l: Thank you. that is what it appears to be. Is there a way to support zfs for root?
[14:08] <tgm4883> bennabiy: I believe it does, but not for /
[14:08] <Harry-GAA001> user13 - I'm using Putty, would that not do the same thing?
[14:08] <usr13> poops: sudo apt-get update
[14:09] <poops> le_pig: I get unbale to locate package cifs-utils
[14:09] <poops> its a brand new installation
[14:09] <bennabiy> In the partition manager in the installer, I see no option for ZFS
[14:09] <hateball> pijinn: I've replied to you in #ubuntu-steam, so
[14:09] <poops> usr13: already done. didnt help
[14:09] <usr13> poops: ... and you do not need to pastebin an image just to show us text.  You could use pastebinit
[14:10] <tgm4883> poops: can you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list file
[14:10] <poops> its a VM... cant copy text
[14:10] <tgm4883> poops: use pastebinit
[14:10] <poops> and openssh-server not installed... since i cant install...
[14:10] <tgm4883> !pastebinit
[14:10] <poops> catch22
[14:10] <tgm4883> oh
[14:10] <tgm4883> heh
[14:10] <le_pig> usr13: could it be that poops' repo is unavailable?
[14:10] <tgm4883> fair enough
[14:10] <tgm4883> poops: can you screenshot that file then /etc/apt/sources.list
[14:11] <usr13> le_pig: Possibly
[14:11] <le_pig> ah, here we go
[14:11] <poops> http://screenpresso.com/=0xDYe
[14:12] <MrMart> Hello! I have a problem with nemo and trying to start it. When I start it it just fills upp the window and shows me the background. Alhough the actual nemo window is never shown.
[14:12] <MrMart> If I run it as root it does show a nemo window however
[14:13] <tgm4883> poops: looks good you me. Do you get any errors when running apt-get update
[14:14] <poops> no errors
[14:14] <tgm4883> poops: can you run apt-get update and screenshot it?
[14:14] <TJ-> ChaosMageX: have you got a rule sorted? I've built one, it executes, but so far not getting sound out! https://iam.tj/projects/misc/60-device-add-remove-play-sound.rules
[14:15] <usr13> poops: Are you using a proxy server?
[14:15] <poops> no
[14:15] <poops> http://screenpresso.com/=7YzAd
[14:16] <zen-guy> hey i can't access my ip cams anymore in 16.04
[14:16] <mikeymop> Hello guys
[14:18] <poops> tgm4883: usr13 any idea?
[14:18] <tgm4883> poops: sorry the screenshot isn't great. Are you running "sudo apt-get update" or "sudo apt get update"
[14:18] <usr13> poops: sudo apt-get upgrade
[14:18] <poops> sudo apt-get update
[14:18] <usr13> tgm4883: He is using a root or super-user session
[14:18] <mandrex> hello
[14:19] <jorgevilar> hello
[14:19] <tgm4883> usr13: what makes you say that?
[14:19] <jorgevilar> mandrex  say hello
[14:19] <usr13> tgm4883: http://screenpresso.com/=D2sNf
[14:20] <jorgevilar> what is your name
[14:20] <tgm4883> usr13: ok, but so what?
[14:20] <jorgevilar> ?
[14:21] <jorgevilar> hello?
[14:21] <tgm4883> jorgevilar: this channel is for support only
[14:21] <xelset> Hello, i have a script that is being run by the apache user www-data. But in that script it has to run a command as Postgres without password. (Ive been playing around wih visudo to get this to work, but it still won't). Any idea how i can achieve this? The script can be found here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16048933/
[14:21] <jorgevilar> ok sorry
[14:21] <usr13> tgm4883: You asked if he was running "sudo apt-get update" or "sudo apt get update"
[14:22] <tgm4883> usr13: right. As in with or without a dash
[14:22] <poops> guys, i know how to run updates...
[14:22] <tgm4883> poops: is this machine at home, or on a work network?
[14:22] <usr13> poops: That is not the issue.  We see that you know how to run updates.  We are not questioning that issue.
[14:24] <robotixted> sup
[14:27] <tgm4883> poops: odd one. Have you tried a "sudo apt-get clean" followed by a "sudo apt-get update"
[14:28] <flaiks> hey
[14:28] <usr13> tgm4883: One thing I see is that he has backports enabled. Not sure why that would cause him to not be able to install openssh-server or cifs-utils but...
[14:29] <tgm4883> usr13: nah that wouldn't prevent that
[14:29] <poops> tgm4883: ill try
[14:29] <flaiks> so my laptop battery is 100% charged, but unity is saying it's at 88%
[14:29] <flaiks> is there anyway to calibrate it so it shows 100% ?
[14:29] <flaiks> note: im running a macbook pro
[14:30] <k1l> poops: "apt-cache policy openssh-server"
[14:31] <poops> didnt help
[14:31] <k1l> poops: can you show the output please?
[14:31] <trijntje> flaiks: rebooting etc doesnt work? You might need to drain it completely and charge it fully. I think the charge sensor can go out of whack if it stays full all the time
[14:31] <tgm4883> poops: can you screenshot the output of the update again?
[14:31] <pseudonymous> Hey - I've had HiDPI laptops for the past year now and I'm really getting annoyed that I cannot use them on the go as the high-res laptop screens make everything tiny. The latest ubuntu addresses everything but the browser (firefox) which still handles poorly. Is there any browser which can scale properly in response to docking / on-the-go ?
[14:32] <mikeymop> I see this reported with macbooks often.
[14:32] <tgm4883> poops: you're going to be asked to screenshot pretty much everything you do here
[14:32] <usr13> poops: apt-cache policy openssh-server pastebinit  #send us resulting url
[14:32] <tgm4883> usr13: he can't pastebinit
[14:32] <poops> thats fine. guys, getting on a call. will hit u back shortly.
[14:32] <usr13> tgm4883: Oh, ok
[14:32] <flaiks> mikeymop, you can change a setting in firefox to address this issue
[14:32] <usr13> tgm4883: But why not?
[14:32] <mikeymop> pseudonymous: there is display scaling in gnome, gnome Wayland, Unity 7.2+ and Plasma 5.x
[14:32] <tgm4883> usr13: please explain how he will install pastebinit :)
[14:33] <usr13> tgm4883: Oh, so he does not have pastebinit installed. Ok.  Thanks.
[14:33] <evasantana> ola
[14:33] <evasantana> q hacen
[14:33] <flaiks> pseudonymous, in firefox, go to about:config and search for 'layout.css.devPixelsPerPx'
[14:33] <tgm4883> k1l: what's the other way to paste? IIRC there is some URL he can curl right?
[14:33] <flaiks> pseudonymous, you can change the scaling in there
[14:33] <ioria>    |nc termbin.com 9999
[14:33] <flaiks> mikeymop, sorry, addressed the wrong person.
[14:33] <k1l> poops: "apt-cache policy openssh-server | nc termbin.com 9999"
[14:33] <evasantana> yo aki con progrentis
[14:33] <k1l> tgm4883: ^
[14:33] <cfhowlett> !es | evasantana
[14:33] <tgm4883> k1l: ah perfect. Thanks
[14:34] <flaiks> pseudonymous, and in grome, there is a runtime modifier to change the dpi scaling
[14:34] <pseudonymous> mikeymop: display scaling largely works in unity, yes indeed. But Firefox is still horrible. If I open it while on the go and then dock the laptop, every tab is *huge* - vice versa and everything's nigh unreadable. Other apps (like Visual Studio Code, of all things) scale accordingly
[14:34] <evasantana> hello
[14:34] <evasantana> im jamila
[14:34] <evasantana> and i am doing a progrentis app
[14:34] <pseudonymous> flaiks: I'm given to think that this is due to GTK3, rigth ? Firefox is *still* using Gtk2, to everyone's dismay
[14:34] <flaiks> pseudonymous, i may get yelled at for this link, but https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/HiDPI has a lot of info on hidpi screens that also applies to ubuntu
[14:34] <NewBernd2016> I want to have a tool to control the complete network connection in ubuntu
[14:35]  * trijntje likes the arch wiki a lot, it has really good information
[14:35] <evasantana> hello what are you doing???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
[14:35] <pseudonymous> flaiks: oh I've visited that a lot :) I was an archer, but even if you're not, the Arch wiki is just too good not to visit
[14:35] <k1l> evasantana: this channel is only for technical ubuntu support
[14:35] <usr13> tgm4883: k1l assuming he has netcat installed.
[14:35] <cfhowlett> evasantana, this is not a chat channel
[14:36] <k1l> usr13: it should on a regular ubuntu.
[14:36] <evasantana> ah okey
[14:36] <flaiks> pseudonymous, i agree, i also was an archer, but the ubuntu wiki is meh, so i still return the that wiki for everything linux related
[14:36] <evasantana> for what is this??
[14:36] <cfhowlett> evasantana, ubuntu
[14:36] <evasantana> what is ubuntu
[14:36] <k1l> !guidelines > evasantana
[14:36] <BluesKaj> !ubunru | evasantana
[14:37] <flaiks> whoops, killed my hexchat by accident
[14:37] <flaiks> i cannot wait to get rid of this macbook and get a thinkpad.
[14:37] <TJ-> poops: check your local package lists actually contain what you think they do, with "grep -n '^Package: openssh-server' /var/lib/apt/lists/* "
[14:37] <lerner> can you confirm if upgrading to 16.04 breaks macchanger?
[14:37] <flaiks> so, mikeymop do you  have any ideas about fixing the battery problem ?
[14:37] <evasantana> what are thoose?
[14:38] <flaiks> mikeymop, i know for sure the battery is fully charged, as the light on the charger is green, and this is hardware controlled
[14:38] <cfhowlett> evasantana, go to www.google.com and ask those questions.
[14:38] <cfhowlett> or go to www.ubuntu.com
[14:38] <lerner> I tried several times the usual way, sudo service network-manager stop && sudo macchanger -r wlan0 && sudo service network-manager start, it changes the mac, but at the end it insists the interface is up
[14:38] <lerner> I have always changed mac like this and now, suddenly, it wont work
[14:42] <mikeymop> lerner: you can't use that anymore. You have to use systemctl
[14:43] <mikeymop> 15.04+ has systemd.
[14:43] <mikeymop> sudo systemctl stop NetworkManager.service
[14:43] <Harry-GAA001> I need help please. I have installed vsftpd but I can't connect via filezilla. I get Response:	500 OOPS: vsftpd: refusing to run with writable root inside chroot() Error:	Critical error: Could not connect to server
[14:44] <usr13> Harry-GAA001: Try initiating a CLI connection to it and see what it says.
[14:44] <ash_workz> what kind of ssh clients do you all prefer?
[14:45] <usr13> Harry-GAA001: ftp 10.x.x.x  #Where 10.x.x.x is the actual IP address to the server.
[14:45] <Myrtti> ash_workz: "ssh"
[14:45] <poops> poopa
[14:45] <mikeymop> Does anyone have any experience with the new virgil3d renderer?
[14:45] <robotixted> ftp://127.0.0.1
[14:45] <mikeymop> Their channel is dead
[14:46] <guest-CtkpqK> ciao
[14:46] <ash_workz> Myrtti: erm, maybe I miss phrased? You just use the terminal?
[14:46] <Myrtti> ash_workz: yup.
[14:46] <usr13> Harry-GAA001: Do you have "write_enable=YES" in /etc/vsftpd.conf?
[14:46] <ash_workz> Myrtti: do you have a way to save your connections?
[14:46] <Harry-GAA001> Can I do that through putty or is that not CLI?
[14:47] <usr13> Harry-GAA001: Do you have chroot_local_user=YES in /etc/vsftpd.conf?
[14:47] <usr13> Harry-GAA001: If you can do it through putty, yes that would be a good test.
[14:47] <Myrtti> ash_workz: not really, it's not that difficult to remember the ip and port number. It stays in the command history, and for those I can't remember straight out I can always do ctrl-r -search.
[14:48] <usr13> Harry-GAA001: ... which would lead me to believe the problem is with filezilla (or the way you are using it).
[14:48] <Harry-GAA001> Yes that is correct, it's set to YES
[14:48] <Myrtti> ash_workz: if I'd care enough, I could maybe do aliases.
[14:49] <usr13> Harry-GAA001: See my PM
[14:50] <usr13> Harry-GAA001: Look to see where filezilla is taking you
[14:51] <usr13> Harry-GAA001: ...possilby to a directory where the user does not have permission / access?
[14:51] <usr13> Harry-GAA001: Is it a webserver?
[14:52] <Harry-GAA001> Yes sorry was just trying the ftp connection through the browser. Now when I navigate to ftp://(my-ip) I get a login box but my login details won't work and it loops
[14:52] <Harry-GAA001> It's a dedi box,
[14:52] <usr13> Harry-GAA001: But yet, you use the same username and password from CLI (putty)?
[14:53] <Harry-GAA001> I created two new ftp users with passwords so I didn't try connecting with the root account
[14:53] <sruli> hi, i need some help with a custom.cfg for my grub menu, i need to be able to boot a second luks device sometimes, i made a custom.cfg menu and added it to /boot/grub however when i select it in grub menu it gives an "error: failure reading sector 0x0 from 'cd0'. error: no such cryptodisk found. error: no server is specified. unaligned pointer 0x80000000003. my custom.cfg is at paste.ubuntu.com/16049093
[14:54] <Harry-GAA001> All users including root just loop through the login box in the web browser. I will try it through putty now
[14:54] <usr13> Harry-GAA001: And these users exist on the server?  And do they have /home/user-directories?
[14:55] <usr13> Harry-GAA001: Well, for security purposes, root would not be allowed.
[14:55] <usr13> Harry-GAA001: It would be quite unacceptable for root user to ftp into a server.
[14:55] <robotixted> Quit
[14:56] <usr13> Harry-GAA001: So the user will need to be an actual user that exists on the server.  Ok?
[14:56] <Harry-GAA001> Yes that's what I wanted. However, it still won't let me connect with the two new user accounts through filezilla or the web browser
[14:57] <usr13> Harry-GAA001: Do these two new user accounts have a home dir?  And do these two new users have privileges to all they need?
[14:57] <usr13> Harry-GAA001: See my pm
[14:58] <Harry-GAA001> Yes I think so. I set them up in home/ftp and then set "ftpadmin" to have read/write and "support" to have read only
[14:58] <citrouille> hello
[14:58] <Harry-GAA001> How do I pm, I'm new to IRC :P
[14:59] <usr13> It depends on your client software.
[14:59] <usr13> Harry-GAA001: What exactly are you trying to do with this ftp server.  Is it just a file server?  Or is it a webserver?  Or...?
[14:59] <Harry-GAA001> What's interesting is that whichever user I try to connect with through filezilla, I get the same chroot error message. The two new users aren't root accounts so surely that error shouldn't occur
[14:59] <pat_> Harry-GAA001, generally you right click their name and click on something
[15:00] <citrouille> I have a problem on ubuntu 16.04 with nautilus or smbclient. I try to connect me on a server " smbclient -L MY_IP -U apause -W HMAD " and I have this error http://paste.ubuntu-fr-secours.org/src-160746
[15:00] <Harry-GAA001> All I'm trying to do is enable me to use filezilla to upload game files to the remote server
[15:01] <usr13> Harry-GAA001: I would use a regular user, with a directory in /home/  (Pretty much cut-and-dried that way.)
[15:02] <usr13> Harry-GAA001: Just set up a regular user on the server and use it's /home/user directory.
[15:03] <Harry-GAA001> Would this be $ useradd (username)?
[15:04] <usr13> Harry-GAA001: -m
[15:04] <Harry-GAA001> useradd -m (username)?
[15:04] <usr13> Harry-GAA001: Create the user's home directory if it does not exist
[15:05] <usr13> Harry-GAA001: useradd -m user-name  Yes
[15:05] <Harry-GAA001> I am so embarrassing myself now aren't I :P
[15:05] <Sayona> HI, is a way to combined the virtual user & pam user for pure-ftpd ? I want to connect using virtual user created in local db and pam user
[15:05] <usr13> Harry-GAA001: no... the only stubid question is one you don't ask.
[15:05] <Harry-GAA001> God I must be sooooo stupid then :P
[15:06] <zykotick9> Harry-GAA001: sidenote, "sudo adduser foo" might be easier...
[15:06] <Harry-GAA001> Doh too late :P but thanks
[15:06] <usr13> zykotick9: He needs to use -m
[15:06] <zykotick9> usr13: with adduser they don't ;)
[15:06] <med_> markbaker, sabdfl, silbs, et al: Nice job on sponsoring the official lanyards at OpenStack Summit this year.... very pleasing to me.
[15:06] <Harry-GAA001> To make the directory, it's mkdir /home/(username)
[15:06] <usr13> zykotick9: Oh yea, ok. well, there is stuff that adduser does that he does not need.
[15:07] <zykotick9> usr13: that might be true!
[15:07] <usr13> zykotick9: According to what he said, he only needs a user with /home/user that he can ftp files to.
[15:08] <zykotick9> "ftp files to" <- what's wrong with this picture ;)
[15:08] <usr13> zykotick9: He can add more permissions / capabilities later if need be.
[15:08] <usr13> zykotick9: I don't know. You tell me.
[15:09] <Harry-GAA001> So user13 did you say I need to make a directory for that new user specifically?
[15:09] <zykotick9> usr13: ftp needs to die in a fire...
[15:09] <usr13> Harry-GAA001: If you used the -m switch, it will already be there.
[15:09] <Harry-GAA001> How do I check just to make sure?
[15:10] <usr13> zykotick9: You are getting too philosophical for me. (Can not follow your thought train :)
[15:10] <usr13> zykotick9: Sorry, I typed that b4 you replied.
[15:11] <usr13> Harry-GAA001: ls /home/
[15:11] <zykotick9> usr13: ftp is terrible, it really should be used...  scp/sftp would be a MUCH better option... but Y(and others)MMV
[15:11] <Sayona> HI, is a way to combined the virtual user & pam user for pure-ftpd ? I want to connect using virtual user created in local db and pam user
[15:11] <zykotick9> s/should/shouldn't/
[15:12] <Harry-GAA001> Do the directories appear in a singe line?
[15:12] <usr13> zykotick9: Depends on whether you need added security.  If you are only using it on a LAN... not so sure it's all that bad.
[15:13] <Harry-GAA001> I have what looks like the directories, I was just expecting them to be in a list, not a single line one after the other. But it looks like they are there ok.
[15:13] <usr13> Harry-GAA001: Yes.  You should see  /home/user-name #Where user-name is the acutal user name.
[15:13] <usr13> Harry-GAA001: Ok. that should do it.
[15:13] <Harry-GAA001> I see "ahughes3  cfgbackup  ftp  lost+found  steam  tcadmin"
[15:14] <usr13> Harry-GAA001: Not sure what all that means.
[15:14] <Harry-GAA001> The first one is the new user I set up, the steam one is for the game files and tcadmin is the control panel for managing game config
[15:15] <usr13> Harry-GAA001: Ok. Well, just try ftp to it and see.
[15:16] <Harry-GAA001> The new user doesn't have a password set though.
[15:16] <Harry-GAA001> All I've done is set up the user and create their own directory, not set a password.
[15:16] <usr13> Harry-GAA001: Sorry.  passwd new-user
[15:16] <usr13> Harry-GAA001: sudo passwd new-user-name-here
[15:16] <Harry-GAA001> Ah ok, I was just about to ask that :)
[15:17] <phablet>  
[15:18] <sebsebsebb>  
[15:19] <Harry-GAA001> Still getting the same error message when using filezilla "Response:	500 OOPS: vsftpd: refusing to run with writable root inside chroot() Error:	Critical error: Could not connect to server" and through the web browser it just keeps looping asking me for u/n & p/w
[15:20] <usr13> Harry-GAA001: Let me ask again;  Did you restart the server software after editing the config file?
[15:20] <sebsebseb>  
[15:20] <Harry-GAA001> Umm if I say no I'll look stupid right :P
[15:20] <usr13> Harry-GAA001: sudo service vsftpd restart
[15:20] <usr13> Harry-GAA001: Did you do that ^^^^^ ?
[15:20] <alfatau> hello all. is there some supported way to upgrade a package (and its dependencies) without upgrading the whole system? my running ubuntu is 14.04
[15:20] <Harry-GAA001> I have now :P
[15:21] <usr13> alfatau: Sure:  sudo apt-get upgrade pacage-name
[15:21] <usr13> Harry-GAA001: try again
[15:21] <lotuspsychje> alfatau: not recommended to 'not' upgrade your system
[15:21] <Harry-GAA001> Still the same
[15:21] <Harry-GAA001> No difference at all
[15:22] <Harry-GAA001> Is it worth restarting the actual server itself?
[15:22] <alfatau> usr13: ok, I'm sorry. I mean to a newer version that is not included in this distro release but it's available on a more recent release (e.g. 15.10)
[15:22] <usr13> Harry-GAA001: cat /etc/vsftpd.conf |nc termbin.com 9999 #Send resulting URL
[15:22] <usr13> Harry-GAA001: You can pm me if you want.
[15:23] <EriC^^> alfatau, ppa maybe?
[15:23] <auronandace|work> !backports | alfatau
[15:23] <Harry-GAA001> I would pm if I knew how
[15:23] <usr13> Harry-GAA001: Nevermind
[15:24] <Harry-GAA001> The resulting url is http://termbin.com/irhz
[15:24] <cryptomonk> greetings
[15:24] <cryptomonk> how can I install mysql 5.7 on Ubuntu 14.04?
[15:24] <FManTropyx> greet
[15:24] <ioria> allow_writeable_chroot=YES
[15:24] <cryptomonk> or downgrade 16.04 to version 5.5
[15:25] <usr13> Harry-GAA001: I think it would be best if you just take some time and read:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/vsftpd and http://www.liquidweb.com/kb/how-to-install-and-configure-vsftpd-on-ubuntu-14-04-lts/
[15:26] <Harry-GAA001> I have read the second link over and over. I did everything in there before coming in here
[15:26] <usr13> Harry-GAA001: Trust me, it works if you make the proper changes to the vsftp.conf file and then restart it.
[15:27] <usr13> Harry-GAA001: Or.  Just install proftpd
[15:27] <usr13> Harry-GAA001: (Probably easier to get going with it.  You might just uninstall vsftp first.)
[15:29] <Harry-GAA001> Ok I'll try following that page again. If that fails, I'll try proftp :)
[15:29] <usr13> Harry-GAA001: And if you still have troubles, try #vsftpd and/or #proftpd
[15:29] <usr13> Harry-GAA001: proftpd is a bit easier.
[15:30] <Harry-GAA001> OMG I'm in!! :)
[15:30] <usr13> Harry-GAA001: Or, I should say, it's set to less restrictive options by default.
[15:31] <Harry-GAA001> lol I did the last part of that page for the user I just set up and it worked. I see my server main directory
[15:31] <usr13> Harry-GAA001: Ok Good.  Glad to hear it.  (Most often mistake is not to restart the server.)
[15:31] <FManTropyx> according to vsftpd documentation, its anonymous root needs to be not writable by the user it runs as
[15:31] <Harry-GAA001> Clear on that one now lol. Thank you for your help and patience ;)
[15:32] <usr13> Harry-GAA001: Yes.  It was probably the case that your ftp client was taking you to a directory that it did not have permissions to.
[15:32] <cryptomonk> Is it possible to install Mysql 5.5 on Ubuntu 16.04?
[15:32] <mikeymop> any KVM experts in here?
[15:32] <FManTropyx> if you want to allow uploads, you can create a subdirectory, eg. 'uploads' and make that one writeable - this will be acceptable
[15:32] <drzel> anyone having trouble installing .deb files with 'ubuntu software'?
[15:32] <cryptomonk> mikeymop: not much to know.  Install mouse/keyboard/monitors. Press the key combo or button to switch between machines
[15:32] <drzel> it just hangs
[15:32] <fedoen> hi
[15:32] <drzel> dpkg -i works fine
[15:33] <usr13> mikeymop: Out of about 2k, yea probably....
[15:33] <Harry-GAA001> Yea I kind of thought it had something to do with filezilla still thinking I was trying to access the server with a root account
[15:33] <hiya> What version is Ubuntu LTS 4.x kernel currently?
[15:33] <zykotick9> cryptomonk: it _might_ be a different kvm...  kernel virtual machine...
[15:33] <fedoen> Ubuntu 16.04 shows my yahoo account on empathy offline, the go online button doesn't seem to work
[15:33] <cryptomonk> ah, never heard of it
[15:33] <pitastrudl> how does one add a private key to the system, ssh-add only adds it temporary
[15:34] <pitastrudl> if i reboot the local machine it forgets it and i have to add it again
[15:34] <pitastrudl> i scoured the forums for an answer but didnt find out anything helpfull
[15:34] <usr13> mikeymop: It's a lot quicker / easier to just ask your question.
[15:34] <pitastrudl> i had a generated key with putty from windows and then converted it to openssh format
[15:34] <pitastrudl> then did ssh-add privatekey
[15:34] <pitastrudl> and it works, but only for the current session
[15:35] <pitastrudl> any idea where to append/add the private key so its in the system permanently?
[15:36] <usr13> pitastrudl: .ssh/authorized_keys
[15:36] <pitastrudl> usr13:  but isnt that for the public keys?
[15:36] <usr13> pitastrudl: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Keys
[15:36] <vortice> hi all
[15:36] <jelly> usr13: that's for public keys, on the remote end
[15:36] <pitastrudl> ^
[15:36] <usr13> O
[15:37] <donofrio> 16.04 alternatie powerpc working great but if anyone has any url's about getting sound, wifi, video (ati) working on my ibook g4 http://apaste.info/cUs
[15:37] <vortice> I've update to 16.04, but I now cannot use ruby commands
[15:38] <vortice> a message is shown: /usr/bin/env : ruby2.1 doesn't exists ....
[15:39] <vortice> where I need to change that for the 2.3?
[15:39] <auronandace|work> !find ruby
[15:39] <vortice> I have ruby 2.3 installed
[15:40] <vortice> and ruby command works
[15:40] <Pici> vortice: sounds like you need to change your script's shebangs to reflect that.
[15:40] <cryptomonk> anyone have thoughts on using mysql vs mariadb?
[15:40] <cryptomonk> wondering if now is a good time to switch
[15:40] <vortice> Pici, the error is shown when I exec scss
[15:41] <cryptomonk> also does AWS have mariadb in their VMS
[15:41] <vortice> cryptomonk, yes (but I prefer postgresql ;)
[15:52] <motaka2> can anyone help me with these errors?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/16050427/
[15:58] <motaka2> no one?
[16:00] <Biff1> Hello, I did an upgrade from 14.04 to 15.10 last night and the networking has stopped working, (wifi and hard line cable) how can I fix this issue? Thx
[16:01] <mexchip> Hi, I would like some help with my 14.04 to 16.04 upgrade attempt
[16:01] <lotuspsychje> Biff1: not very recommended to upgrade lts to non-lts
[16:02] <lotuspsychje> !ltsupgrade | mexchip
[16:02] <mexchip> yesterday I tried to install 16.04, I didn't want to preserve anything so I formatted the partition where I had 14.04
[16:02] <mexchip> well, didn't format it directly at first, I tried "delete and reinstall", but when it was about to start, the message indicating which partitions would be formatted indicated an incorrect partition
[16:02] <trism> motaka2: according to the discussion here: https://github.com/mapbox/node-pre-gyp/issues/165 you have to use --unsafe-perm if you run that as root
[16:03] <sebsebseb> mexchip: ok
[16:03] <mexchip> my previous 14.04 was on sda7
[16:03] <sebsebseb> mexchip: what got wiped out?
[16:03] <mexchip> but the installer indicated it was about to format #10
[16:03] <n00buntu> where can I ask about NFS issues?
[16:03] <motaka2> trism: since i dont understand you will you give me what I should run in terminal ?
[16:04] <Biff1> okay, so is there a way to get my networking working?
[16:04] <sebsebseb> Biff1: betterr to clean install 16.04  and as lotuspsychje put wasn't really the best idea to upgrade LTS to non LTS
[16:04] <TJ-> ChaosMageX: I've a udev rule working playing sound on device add/remove
[16:04] <mexchip> nothing, I went back and then manually selected the partitions, / to be mounted on sda7 and swap on sda8, got xubuntu 16.04 installed, but when booting I get to a grub rescue console
[16:04] <sebsebseb> Biff1: altough it may just be since you need a driver installed from additional drivers
[16:04] <sebsebseb> Biff1: for the network
[16:05] <motaka2> Hello TJ- , do you remember me?
[16:05] <sebsebseb> mexchip: ok try installing that again I think
[16:05] <trism> motaka2: add the command line switch: sudo npm install -g --unsafe-perm node-inspector; or don't run it as root
[16:05] <sebsebseb> motaka2: clean install yep
[16:05] <vijaikumar> hey sebsebseb thanks for helping me earlier.. i fixed the issue myself :)
[16:05] <mexchip> so tried to reinstall grub using the live media, but when running grub-install /dev/sda I get this message: grub-install: error: failed to get canonical path of 'cow'.
[16:05] <Biff1> so is there a location/file to download the drivers?
[16:05] <sebsebseb> vijaikumar: the one with the propritar program?
[16:05] <motaka2> sebsebseb: are you TJ- ?
[16:05] <sebsebseb> motaka2: no
[16:06] <sebsebseb> vijaikumar: how did you fix that?
[16:06] <fuji> sa va ?
[16:06] <fuji> je vous aime fort !!!
[16:06] <mexchip> this is a laptop which already had win8 installed in UEFI mode, I don't remember having any trouble when installing xubuntu 14.04, but now I've not been able to have grub properly installed
[16:06] <fuji> je n'ai pas d'amis...
[16:06] <fuji> juste vous
[16:06] <vijaikumar> sebsebseb, yes. Latest version of X.org disables indirect rendering by default.
[16:06] <vijaikumar> I modified lightdm conf to enable it and it worked :)
[16:06] <sebsebseb> mexchip: yeah clean install from 16.04
[16:06] <mexchip> I think it's because of the uefi mode, last time I worked with grub was with normal bios systems
[16:06] <sebsebseb> mexchip: the ISO
[16:07] <sebsebseb> mexchip: make sure secure boot is disabled I guess to in the UEFI bios
[16:07] <sebsebseb> vijaikumar: oh
[16:07] <fuji> you speaking english ??
[16:07] <canopix> hello <1
[16:07] <jpfarias> hi guys
[16:07] <fuji> hello <3
[16:07] <mexchip> sebsebseb: ok, I'm disabling it in the bios settings
[16:07] <sebsebseb> vijaikumar: ok well that's good then youcan keep on using uyour program
[16:07] <sebsebseb> vijaikumar: without them updating it
[16:07] <canopix> hello from argentina!
[16:07] <sebsebseb> for now anwyay
[16:07] <sebsebseb> anyway
[16:07] <fuji> hello from france
[16:07] <vijaikumar> yes sebsebseb :)
[16:07] <canopix> france!! :)
[16:07] <fuji> yes
[16:07] <sebsebseb> mexchip: might not need to disable secure boot, but can make a difference for a lot of distros
[16:07] <canopix> Here in the university ! on a class of Operating systems
[16:08] <mexchip> sebsebseb: think I should try reinstalling 16.04 or could try grub-install from the live media instead?
[16:08] <canopix> Who learn Node.jS?
[16:08] <jpfarias> I am having an issue with my graphics card and ubuntu 16.04 new drivers... I can´t boot unless I use nomodeset or radeon.modeset=0
[16:08] <sebsebseb> mexchip: either
[16:08] <fuji> and you where do you from ?
[16:08] <sebsebseb> jpfarias: which graphics card ATI?
[16:08] <jpfarias> sebsebseb: R7 370
[16:08] <fuji> me i'm from France <3
[16:08] <sebsebseb> jpfarias: there is an issue with ATI and propritary drivers for 16.04.  open source driver can be ok
[16:08] <canopix> Anyone learn node.js?
[16:08] <sebsebseb> iptable: Radeon something?
[16:09] <fuji> do
[16:09] <jpfarias> sebsebseb, I am using the opensource ones, amdgpu
[16:09] <sebsebseb> jpfarias: hmm
[16:09] <fuji> what you speak about ?
[16:09] <jpfarias> sebsebseb, 16.04 removed the proprietary drivers
[16:09] <fuji> How old are you ?
[16:09] <canopix> Node.Js javascript !!
[16:09] <designbybeck> Ubuntu 16.04 - Anyone else having .DEB files hang and say "Waiting To Install" ??
[16:10] <motaka2> trism: thank you, I ran that without sudo
[16:10] <motaka2> and it worked
[16:10] <sebsebseb> jpfarias: yeah I don't know if this is helpful at all or not but worth a read probably anyway: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/03/ubuntu-drops-amd-catalyst-fglrx-driver-16-04
[16:10] <fuji> what's your name ??
[16:10] <motaka2> sebsebseb: Is it safe for me to upgrade to 1604 ?
[16:10] <mexchip> sebsebseb: as I mentioned, last time I used grub-install was with non-UEFI systems, and I indicated to install on the main disk, do I need to indicate a partition when installing to uefi systems?
[16:10] <fuji> and how old are you?
[16:10] <sebsebseb> motaka2: from what?
[16:10] <lotuspsychje> fuji: this channel is only for ubuntu questions
[16:10] <mexchip> I think that's my problem
[16:10] <motaka2> sebsebseb: from 14.04
[16:10] <fuji> oh soory
[16:10] <jpfarias> sebsebseb, yeah I read that page before, so should I go back to 15.10 and use the fglrx that used to work?
[16:10] <mexchip> that I'm trying to install grub to /dev/sda and should be installing to /dev/sdaX
[16:11] <jpfarias> sebsebseb, I was hoping there would be a way to keep 16.04
[16:11] <sebsebseb> jpfarias: oh you got that actsual mentioned issue?
[16:11] <sebsebseb> jpfarias: it's ATI/AMD they have dropped the propritary driver, or well the one mentioend there for LInux
[16:11] <lundmar> TJ-: I've done a bit more debugging on the gnome-terminal issue. Interesting discovery, when I break and run at all terminal_window_* functions I don't see the issue. To me that indicates a likely ipc synchronization/timing issue. Not easy to debug without knowledge of window control flow.
[16:12] <sebsebseb> jpfarias: so your best bet for now I guess is to try and just use the open source driver for what you want to do.  or maybe go back to 15.10 for a bit yes
[16:12] <jpfarias> sebsebseb, right, they want people to use the open source driver, except it doesn´t work =)
[16:12] <sebsebseb> jpfarias: yeah I think that's why they basically said on omgubuntu if you got ATI/AMD you may want to hold off upgrading to 16.04 for a while
[16:12] <lotuspsychje> lundmar: me and EriC^^ just tested on clean install, same bug exists
[16:12] <Biff1> is there a way to download 16.04 and install it on a different computer, my network don't work.Thx
[16:12] <pitiye> i am running 15.04 and want to install 16.04 on a different partition, while being still on 15.04, and without using grub iso boot. is this possible ?
[16:13] <sebsebseb> motaka2: if you are on 14.04
[16:13] <sebsebseb> motaka2: that's the LTS release
[16:13] <sebsebseb> the previous one
[16:13] <lundmar> lotuspsychje: ok :/
[16:13] <sebsebseb> motaka2: in three months time you should be able to upgrade to 16.04.1
[16:13] <sebsebseb> the point release
[16:13] <sebsebseb> LTS to LTS yep
[16:13] <motaka2> sebsebseb: So I have to wait ?
[16:13] <sebsebseb> motaka2: so no point really upgrading in your case it seems, unless you have a proper reason
[16:13] <TJ-> lundmar: yes, can you track the callback signals arriving? it could be the signals aren't bein correctly handled
[16:13] <jpfarias> sebsebseb, alrite, I will do that then, it is just frustating since 16.04 is a LTS version, it started off on the bad side for me
[16:13] <sebsebseb> motaka2: why do you want to upgrade or maybe?
[16:14] <sebsebseb> jpfarias: other distros could work better with that hardware though
[16:14] <motaka2> sebsebseb: I dont want to be fucked up like previous time
[16:14] <sebsebseb> jpfarias: but I Think it's a general AMD/ATI has dropped support thing
[16:14] <sebsebseb> for LInux
[16:14] <jpfarias> sebsebseb, I like arch but the painful install process kinda sux
[16:14] <sebsebseb> jpfarias: could be worth try some just to see if any difference though
[16:14] <lotuspsychje> sebsebseb: fglrx is comming back so we hear..
[16:14] <jpfarias> sebsebseb, any you would recommend?
[16:15] <sebsebseb> jpfarias: of course, but I can't here, off topic :d
[16:15] <jpfarias> sebsebseb, pm me =)
[16:15] <sebsebseb> lotuspsychje: is it?
[16:15] <jpfarias> lotuspsychje, where did you hear it?
[16:15] <lotuspsychje> sebsebseb, jpfarias join #ubuntu-discuss
[16:15] <lundmar> TJ-: there are a lot of _cb funtions in terminal-window.c ...
[16:16] <Biff1> Aaaa, this is useless, Im odda here
[16:17] <lundmar> TJ-: maybe the obvious one to inspect is terminal_size_to_cb()
[16:17] <motaka2> sebsebseb: can you help me ?
[16:18] <sebsebseb> motaka2: what do you want to do or not do?
[16:18] <heryhelder> i'm having freezing problems with linux :/
[16:18] <sebsebseb> heryhelder: how so?
[16:18] <heryhelder> when i try to watch videos my notebook freezes
[16:18] <TJ-> lundmar: yes :) pick the screen_resize_* and window_terminal_size* and related
[16:18] <heryhelder> is an Asus x451ma
[16:18] <motaka2> sebsebseb: As I understood I have to wait for 3 months. now I have another question it seems google has closed servers to iran, how can I upgrade googlechrome ?
[16:19] <sebsebseb> motaka2: your in Iran?
[16:19] <heryhelder> celeron n2930 intel graphics
[16:19] <motaka2> sebsebseb: Yes, and I have tor installed
[16:19] <sebsebseb> motaka2: Google Chrome I don't like much anyway, why not use Mozilla Firefox :)
[16:19] <sebsebseb> motaka2: that comes with Ubuntu by default as well
[16:19] <heryhelder> in windows i can do anything without any problema
[16:19] <sebsebseb> :)
[16:19] <heryhelder> problem*
[16:19] <sebsebseb> heryhelder: ok
[16:19] <sebsebseb> heryhelder: which videos?
[16:20] <heryhelder> any video
[16:20] <heryhelder> youtube, vlc...
[16:20] <sebsebseb> heryhelder: links?
[16:20] <motaka2> sebsebseb: I use that too. but it v8 engine and js debugger is bettr than FF right now
[16:20] <heryhelder> all videos on youtube
[16:20] <sebsebseb> heryhelder: they won't come up at all?
[16:20] <heryhelder> sometimes i'm just reading pdfs and the it freeze
[16:21] <sebsebseb> heryhelder: ok that's a net book the computer?
[16:21] <heryhelder> a notebook
[16:21] <sebsebseb> heryhelder: how much RAM?
[16:21] <heryhelder> 4gb
[16:21] <sebsebseb> hmm
[16:21] <sebsebseb> heryhelder: for the videos you'll need to have codecs and such installed for Flash to even load up
[16:21] <sebsebseb> heryhelder: and  propritary video formats for them to work
[16:21] <heryhelder> hm...
[16:22] <bauerj> hmm
[16:22] <heryhelder> i don't have flash enable
[16:22] <sebsebseb> heryhelder: you don't know what I mean do you?  I thought you were new, you are?
[16:22] <heryhelder> yes
[16:22] <sebsebseb> heryhelder: Flash will have some issues maybe with some sites,  the ADobe version, but that's a seperate thing. lets get you installed with the codecs first
[16:22] <heryhelder> can you tell me which codecs i need?
[16:22] <sebsebseb> heryhelder: have you used the the terminal?
[16:22] <sebsebseb> or just software centre so far
[16:22] <heryhelder> yes
[16:23] <sebsebseb> heryhelder: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[16:23] <sebsebseb> that should sort out most things :)
[16:23] <heryhelder> wait a sec
[16:23] <heryhelder> i'm using fedora hehe
[16:23] <sebsebseb> heryhelder: Fedora doesn't even have support for the things your on about. would need to use 3rd party stuff.  or you wrre just trolling?
[16:24] <heryhelder> no
[16:24] <sebsebseb> heryhelder: I prefer other distros to Ubuntu on the desktop or lap top computers too,  non Ubuntu based ones as well, but no point trolling the channel really
[16:24] <heryhelder> i'm not trolling
[16:24] <heryhelder> sorry
[16:24] <heryhelder> i really need help
[16:24] <sebsebseb> heryhelder: well load up Ubuntu then, and do what I just put!
[16:24] <heryhelder> its because i tried fedora and ubuntu
[16:25] <sebsebseb> heryhelder: Fedora is a bit more complex to install codecs and what not, since how it's like by default. got to use 3rd party stuff rpmfusion etc.  Ubuntu makes it a lot easier to install the things your after
[16:25] <heryhelder> ok
[16:25] <punter> My laptop (Dell E5520) often shows a black screen when I lift the lid (without having shut it down) with Ubuntu 16.04. I didn't have this problem with older Ubuntus. Where do I file this bug? Thanks
[16:25] <heryhelder> so i'll go for ubuntu
[16:25] <heryhelder> is 16.04 stable?
[16:25] <sebsebseb> heryhelder: yes
[16:25] <lotuspsychje> !lts | heryhelder
[16:25] <skyfaller> hey folks, I liked using landscape-common to see the status of my server on login, but it seems to rely on deprecated stuff like python2... is there a better alternative? Should I just manually install it anyway?
[16:26] <heryhelder> ty ^^
[16:26] <sebsebseb> heryhelder: actsaully I started on FEddora baack in 2004 but offline, it's a good disdtro when it works enough, but it's a bit more aimed at intermediate ue
[16:26] <sebsebseb> heryhelder: intermediate users to really  than say Ubuntu
[16:26] <daniel101> Hi, I have a game on steam that won't launch unless I browse the folder with the local install and start it manually. I'm using Ubuntu 16.04 on x64. Magicka 2
[16:26] <heryhelder> ok, got it
[16:26] <daniel101> But the the problem is that it's going to tell me that I'm not connected to the network
[16:26] <sebsebseb> heryhelder: yep 16.04 is nice and stable releaedd last week, it's a long term support releaes to
[16:26] <heryhelder> so i only need ubuntu-restricted-extras and flash?
[16:27] <sebsebseb> heryhelder: can stay on that for five years if you really want, whilst still getting updates
[16:27] <heryhelder> really nice ^^
[16:27] <sebsebseb> heryhelder: Flash will be part of Ubuntu restricted extras, butt the ADobe Flash it self
[16:27] <heryhelder> i want to buy a ubuntu-phone too
[16:27] <sebsebseb> heryhelder: Adobe Flash has some issues now with Linux since Adobe don't really care, but you can find out more about that later on
[16:27] <heryhelder> i'm a newbie software developer :)
[16:27] <heryhelder> ok
[16:27] <sebsebseb> heryhelder: I have two of the Ubuntu phones, and one of the  the two M10 tablets
[16:28] <rhagu> Hi I have a txt file with lines of file names in it and want to automatically delete those files in the current folder, how would you do that?
[16:28] <sebsebseb> heryhelder: three Ubuntu devices, got more to buy yet!
[16:28] <heryhelder> wow, nice =D
[16:28] <hoanghuynhman> hello
[16:28] <heryhelder> i'm waiting for them come to Brazil
[16:28] <sebsebseb> heryhelder: you can buy now online
[16:28] <sebsebseb> heryhelder: I think they will ship to Brazil, BQ anyway
[16:28] <rhagu> "xargs -a file rm" is supposed to work but how can I check without actually deleting?
[16:28] <lotuspsychje> MonkeyDust: h3llo
[16:28] <sebsebseb> heryhelder: not so sure about the other one Meizu
[16:28] <bauerj> are there any plans to add zfs support to the installer as well?
[16:28] <heryhelder> they do
[16:28] <TJ-> rhagu: "while read f; do rm $f; done </path/to/filenames.list"
[16:29] <MonkeyDust> lotuspsychje  high
[16:29] <sebsebseb> heryhelder: you can only buy online any of those devicees for now and that will be like that for quite a while longer
[16:29] <heryhelder> yep
[16:29] <TJ-> rhagu: add in an "echo " prefix so it echoes the commands rather than executes them
[16:29] <heryhelder> so i'm going install ubuntu
[16:29] <sebsebseb> bauerj: I think zfs is in the installer of 16.04 as an opton, bugT I haven't used it myself yet the 16.04 installer
[16:29] <heryhelder> thanks for helping me
[16:29] <rhagu> TJ thanks I will try that
[16:29] <sebsebseb> heryhelder: your welcome :)
[16:30] <bauerj> sebsebseb: nope, it's not in the installer^^
[16:30] <heryhelder> ^^
[16:30] <bauerj> that's what I thought too
[16:30] <lerner> QupZilla requires to install plugins to play media files of the following type: H.264 (Constrained Baseline Profile) decoder
[16:30] <lerner> whats the repo name of the package I need?
[16:31] <MonkeyDust> !info qupzilla
[16:31] <lotuspsychje> im using my 4 workspaces again on unity, anyone knows howto make non-active spaces light, like the active one?
[16:31] <skyfaller> let me rephrase: Is landscape-common still developed/maintained?
[16:31] <MonkeyDust> lerner  universe repo
[16:31] <lerner> sorry
[16:31] <lerner> wrong question, I meant whats the package's name :D
[16:32] <bazhang> x264
[16:32] <lerner> is x264?
[16:32] <lerner> a ok
[16:32] <bazhang> yes
[16:33] <MonkeyDust> !info x264
[16:33] <lerner> i still cannot watch youtube videos
[16:33] <lerner> but the audio is there
[16:37] <wutf> upnp is running on port 5000 but i need port 5000
[16:39] <wutf> how do you disable upnp
[16:39] <Johnny_Linux> in your router
[16:40] <wutf> ...no
[16:40] <wutf> i am running ubuntu xenial
[16:40] <skyfaller> do any of you have something that displays server stats on login in xenial?
[16:40] <wutf> port 5000 is being used for upnp according to nmap
[16:41] <Felishia> help
[16:41] <Felishia> I can't change the audio channel
[16:41] <lotuspsychje> !ask | Felishia
[16:41] <Felishia> only dummy output is allowed
[16:41] <lotuspsychje> !sound | Felishia
[16:41] <lerner> Parole needs MPEG-4 Video decoder to play this file. It can be installed automatically. << no it cannot. Whats the package's name?
[16:41] <lerner> that I need?
[16:41] <Felishia> the problem is that I can't choose another output from the listed ones
[16:42] <Felishia> so no manual works the interface is broken or something
[16:42] <Felishia> I pick another audio output and it just ignores my option
[16:42] <Felishia> I don't want to restart the computer now because there are a lot of services running
[16:42] <Felishia> so I would like to set it via console
[16:43] <Guest62621> Hello! I'm having trouble installing scene builder in Ubuntu 16.04, it worked fine in 15.10. And I *really* need it, can any one help? What I've tried so far: http://hastebin.com/amafebacaj.avrasm
[16:43] <superguest> It appears the Budget Fair Queuing (BFQ) i/o scheduler isn't shipped with 15.10's kernel
[16:46] <super> hi
[16:47] <MonkeyDust> Guest62621  is that with a ppa? if yes, better contact the maintainer, the ppa may not be ready for 16.04
[16:47] <Guest62621> no it is the .deb file
[16:47] <M_Kay> I have got an old notebook dell inspiron 6400 on which i want to install current xubuntu lts, but the network card is not working.
[16:47] <M_Kay> When connect the network cable there is no network recognised.
[16:47] <M_Kay> any suggestions?
[16:47] <Guest62621> I'll try the ppa in 20 mins, thanks. sudenly got bussy
[16:47] <MonkeyDust> Guest62621  is there no readme file?
[16:48] <sebsebseb> MonkeyDust: which kind of network card?
[16:48] <sebsebseb> for M_Kay
[16:48] <sebsebseb> M_Kay: if your lucky there is a driver of some sort availabe in additional drivers for it, once installed
[16:48] <sebsebseb> M_Kay: once you got Ubuntu installed
[16:48] <sebsebseb> M_Kay: but if you look on the Live seession may have one to so
[16:48] <lerner> guys, I cannot watch movies on my computer, and I dont know where to find the MPEG-4 Video decoder I need
[16:49] <sebsebseb> lerner: you can watch movies :)
[16:49] <sebsebseb> lerner: you just need to install codecs first
[16:49] <sebsebseb> assuming you haven't already
[16:49] <Guest62621> No there is no readme, just the .deb
[16:49] <MonkeyDust> lerner  install ubuntu-restricte-extras
[16:49] <MonkeyDust> lerner  install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[16:49] <sebsebseb> lerner: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras or get from the software centre
[16:50] <lerner> MonkeyDust, sebsebseb, those are already installed
[16:50] <lerner> o wait
[16:50] <sebsebseb> lerner: DVD's may need something else for, but otherewise should be ok and with mostp layers to so VLC fore xample
[16:50] <lerner> vlc doesnt work with anything
[16:51] <sebsebseb> lerner: make sure restricted extras is installed that's important for what you want to do
[16:51] <sebsebseb> by default tehre is no support at all for MP4's MP3's AVI's etc etc
[16:51] <sebsebseb> since legal reasons
[16:51] <sebsebseb> and that is the case for most Linux distros as well. yeah since software patents etc uh
[16:52] <lotuspsychje> jpfarias: found the log?
[16:52] <jpfarias> yeo
[16:52] <jpfarias> yes
[16:52] <jpfarias> it is a 66MB file tho
[16:52] <jpfarias> do I paste the whole thing?
[16:52] <lotuspsychje> jpfarias: if it fits, share the paste :p
[16:52]  * sebsebseb come on Ubuntu tablet upgrade me to that OTA Update, being so slow
[16:53] <donofrio> 16.04 alternatie powerpc working great but if anyone has any url's about getting sound, wifi, video (ati) working on my ibook g4 http://apaste.info/cUs
[16:53] <MonkeyDust> sebsebseb  tablet says no
[16:53] <sebsebseb> MonkeyDust:  he h
[16:53] <sebsebseb> MonkeyDust: maybe someone else is using a lot of bandwidth for gaming right now, I  think that might be the case
[16:54] <lerner> not any mp4 or mkv file is playable
[16:54] <jpfarias> lotuspsychje, it doesn't fit
[16:54] <lerner> ubuntu and kubuntu restricted extras are installed
[16:54] <lerner> I dont need lubuntu or xubuntu, right?
[16:54] <lotuspsychje> jpfarias: copy paste partial/latest?
[16:55] <lotuspsychje> im working with 4 workspaces again, how can i make non-active spaces lighter in unity?
[16:56] <sveinse> Do you need to do something special on a machine running a beta of xenial to make it official xenial?
[16:56] <sebsebseb> lotuspsychje: oh mp4 hmm
[16:56] <sebsebseb> wrong one
[16:56] <sebsebseb> lerner: oh mp4
[16:56] <lotuspsychje> !final | sveinse
[16:56] <lerner> and avi
[16:56] <sebsebseb> lerner:  might need something else for mp4
[16:56] <lerner> not any video format is playable
[16:57] <sebsebseb> lerner: and mkv is what a dvd uses isn't it?
[16:57] <sebsebseb> !dvd
[16:57] <lerner> why does this happen each time I upgrade?
[16:57] <sebsebseb> lerner: what losing support for them|?
[16:57] <sebsebseb> lerner: I guess since the repo got disalbed and then not enabled for them?
[16:57] <sebsebseb> by default
[16:57] <sebsebseb> or something
[16:57] <lerner> all my repos are activated
[16:58] <sveinse> lotuspsychje: Thanks. already did that, so then I'm good! Brilliant
[16:58] <sebsebseb> !mp4
[16:58] <lotuspsychje> sveinse: lsb_release -a ?
[16:58] <sveinse> lotuspsychje: Ubuntu 16.04 LTS
[16:59] <lotuspsychje> sveinse: development has vanished right?
[16:59] <sveinse> yup
[16:59] <lotuspsychje> !info linux-image-generic | sveinse on uname -a match?
[17:00] <sveinse> lotuspsychje: Check.
[17:01] <lotuspsychje> sveinse: your good to go for years :p
[17:01] <sveinse> lotuspsychje: heh, at least 5 of them. Thanks.
[17:01] <tme5> lerner, "ubuntu and kubuntu restricted extras are installed" what do you mean?
[17:01] <tme5> which are you runnig?
[17:01] <lerner> i run kubuntu, not ubuntu
[17:02] <tme5> ok. and you have just kubuntu repos?
[17:02] <lerner> ku and u.buntu
[17:03] <lerner> no luck
[17:03] <tme5> (is that normal? never used a derivative)
[17:03] <lerner> im trying to play an avi file and no luck
[17:04] <tme5> lerner, apparently you should only have kubuntu ones
[17:04] <tme5> restricted extras, that is
[17:04] <danny_> Ubuntu mate is the truth
[17:05] <vicente> I did an upgrade from ubuntu 15.10 to 16.04 and now Pithos doesn't load. I did an 'apt-get install --reinstall --purge pithos' but had the same error
[17:06] <wyre> I'm having so much issues with disk errors in Ubuntu 16.04; is there any known issue about?
[17:07] <vicente> my pastebin log for the error that pithos is producing is here, http://paste.ubuntu.com/16052025/ thank you in advance
[17:08] <jpfarias> lotuspsychje, here https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/633676/syslog
[17:08] <tme5> vicente, you don't have it installed by pip?
[17:09] <jpfarias> lotuspsychje, sorry I couldn't find a way to paste it anywhere, the thing is too big
[17:09] <tme5> vicente, 'pithos --version' gives?
[17:09] <vicente> tme5, I thought apt-get was the preferred way to have pithos installed
[17:09] <tme5> it is, just checking
[17:09] <lerner> what codes do I need , damit?
[17:09] <kallo82> Hey all
[17:10] <kallo82> is it true that canonical is selling out to MS ?
[17:10] <donofrio> lerner, I use kodi.tv fwiw
[17:10] <kallo82> big rumors out there
[17:10] <donofrio> lerner, it has most all codex but if not VLC does
[17:10] <vicente> tme5, the #pithos channel is telling me the error is due to a local copy of Pithos being installed, I will complete troubleshooting the issue over there. thanks for the suggestion
[17:11] <tme5> i thought so. gl vicente
[17:11] <dontknow> kallo82, source please
[17:11] <k1l> kallo82: no. and such non tehcnical talk better suits into #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:11] <MonkeyDust> kallo82  that was an april fish
[17:11] <MatToufoutu> hello there
[17:11] <bazhang> kallo82, thats for the offtopic channel NOT here
[17:11] <lerner> Libav codec library is installed and i wont play anything
[17:12] <bazhang> lerner, first install smplayer
[17:12] <kallo82> dontknow: i was watching this video
[17:12] <kallo82> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPA4PYsOInk
[17:12] <kallo82> sorry about that
[17:12] <bazhang> kallo82, the offtopic channel
[17:13] <MonkeyDust> lerner  try mpv media player, it's very light and swift
[17:13] <kallo82> bazhang: that caused me a heartache , thought it was real , sorry about posting this here
[17:13] <de-facto> lerner you can use mediainfo to learn more about your media file, i would suspect if you install ubuntu-restricted-extras you get some additional codecs and vlc also is known for playing almost any codec
[17:13] <lerner> but what s the reason of this happenning now?
[17:13] <bazhang> he's on kubuntu
[17:13] <bazhang> so its kubuntu restricted
[17:14] <superguest> Where do I need to look (a file under /sys, maybe?) to find out which cpu scheduler my system is currently using?
[17:14] <de-facto> !info kubuntu-restricted-extras
[17:14] <bazhang> lerner, install then first
[17:14] <MatToufoutu> today I upgraded from 14.04 to 16.04, upgrade process went well, but at reboot time, it seems LVM can't see my vg, I get a 'volume group "ubuntu-vg" not found' and then it errors when I input my encryption passphrase (which makes sense if the vg can't be found), has anyone experienced this?
[17:15] <jpfarias> lotuspsychje, did you get that file?
[17:15] <de-facto> lerner some codecs have legal problems with license and such, therefore they arent installed by default
[17:15] <tme5> de-facto, we got all this already :P
[17:15] <de-facto> ok
[17:15] <EriC^^_> jpfarias: lotuspsychje is afk i think
[17:16] <jpfarias> EriC^^_, ok thanks,  I will wait =)
[17:16] <tme5> they have both ub and kub extras installed apparently
[17:16] <EriC^^_> jpfarias: :)
[17:18] <lotuspsychje> jpfarias: FF doesnt like the bigness of the log lol
[17:18] <ubuntu-mate> good evening
[17:18] <jpfarias> lotuspsychje, =)
[17:24] <luciano> by
[17:25] <ssavaso> how can I get paid support for my lubuntu
[17:25] <ikonia> contact canonical
[17:25] <ikonia> or a support copmany
[17:26] <ikonia> company
[17:26] <bazhang> ssavaso, contact canonical directly
[17:26] <lerner> do broken codecs automatically correct themselves?
[17:26] <bazhang> lerner, its not the codecs
[17:26] <bazhang> lerner its the file
[17:26] <lerner> all 300?
[17:27] <bazhang> lerner, sure
[17:27] <tme5> bazhang, seems unlikely?
[17:27] <bazhang> tme5, that he had time to test all 300 in the last four minutes?
[17:28] <engineer-pearl> Okay, so I like to use the default file manager to navigate to files, but I can't navigate to a file I can't see. Thing is, when I show hidden files in my home directory, things become a mess. Is there a way to navigate to a hidden file within the file manager without showing it, or is the only way around this to make a link?
[17:29] <lerner> another nuisance is that xchat now looks different, since I upgraded I mean: Icons are huge and fonts also
[17:29] <tme5> engineer-pearl, nautilus right?
[17:29] <bazhang> get hexchat, xchat is dead lerner
[17:29] <UserUS> so windows cannot access the offline boot menu, and ubuntu says Xorg and isize errors
[17:30] <engineer-pearl> I think so? I haven't figured out what tool it is because it doesn't seem to behave like other programs.
[17:30] <tme5> you on stock ubuntu?
[17:30] <UserUS> yes
[17:30] <Guest62621> nick Vimes
[17:30] <tme5> i meant engineer-pearl :p
[17:31] <engineer-pearl> it came with my computer (system 76) but I think so?
[17:31] <k1l> lerner: there is no xchat anymore since 16.04. use hexchat instead
[17:32] <Samuel_Vimes> Can any one help me install scenebuilder in ubuntu 16.04, it worked beautifully in ubuntu 15.10, and I really need it. this is what I've tried to do now with the .deb package http://hastebin.com/amafebacaj.avrasm
[17:32] <tme5> engineer-pearl, try Ctrl+L or find menu item like "Go to..."
[17:32] <MonkeyDust> Samuel_Vimes  you, too ... is that with a ppa? if yes, better contact the maintainer, the ppa may not be ready for 16.04
[17:32] <tme5> or see if you can edit the address bar
[17:33] <engineer-pearl> Oh! ctrl-l is EXACTLY the tool I was looking for! Thanks!
[17:33] <tme5> np :)
[17:33] <tme5> personally i link all my important hidden folders
[17:34] <lerner> how do I import my xchat profile (rooms and config) into hexchat?
[17:36] <bazhang> #hexchat has a guide for that lerner
[17:36] <bazhang> lerner, -----> /join #hexchat <--------
[17:41] <goddard> what are the reasons suspend would fail?
[17:41] <goddard> i am on 14.04 now and it works fine, but newer ubuntu versions failed to suspend
[17:42] <goddard> i know it isn't the kernels because i downloaded them to 14.04 and suspend works
[17:42] <jpfarias> lotuspsychje: any luck?
[17:42] <goddard> something to do with systemd?
[17:43] <Samuel_Vimes> MonkeyDust, I can't find the PPA
[17:45] <bekks> goddard: "the kernels"?
[17:45] <goddard> bekks: do you know why suspend fails?
[17:45] <bekks> goddard: Which Ubuntu are you on, and which kernel exactly are you using?
[17:45] <goddard> is it systemd?
[17:46] <goddard> ive used many kernels
[17:46] <bekks> goddard: How am I suposses to know that, without any valuable information yet?
[17:46] <goddard> what controls suspension?
[17:46] <bekks> goddard: Which Ubuntu are you on, and which kernel exactly are you using?
[17:46] <goddard> some service or process?
[17:47] <bazhang> whats the kernel version goddard
[17:47] <goddard> bazhang: ive used all the kernels
[17:47] <bazhang> did you need help finding it goddard
[17:47] <goddard> the kernels aren't the problem at least the offical kernels
[17:48] <goddard> suspension works with a 14.04 base
[17:48] <goddard> with any kernel
[17:48] <bazhang> so its not systemd goddard
[17:48] <goddard> so i already ruled it out
[17:48] <goddard> but with newer version of ubuntu
[17:48] <bekks> goddard: And which Ubuntu are yiu using NOW? And which kernel are you using NOW?
[17:48] <goddard> suspension fails regardless of kernel
[17:48]  * hoxolotl__ is using Ubuntu on an i5 laptop, somehow the vga to an external monitor cuts out after a few minutes untill the mouse is moved back to it. 
[17:48] <bazhang> all the versions bekks
[17:48] <goddard> bazhang: all the versions in the repos
[17:49] <bazhang> goddard, its not systemd, no
[17:49] <bazhang> goddard, absent more info from you, no telling what it is
[17:49] <goddard> bazhang: i don't see what has changed to have this regression
[17:49] <dan_> Hi, anyone here  using 16.04?
[17:49] <goddard> bazhang: what info?
[17:49] <j00r_m473> Yep
[17:50] <goddard> bazhang: 15.04 fails 15.10 fails 16.04 fails
[17:50] <goddard> 14.04 works
[17:51] <owen1> any ideas why my upstart script doesn't start at reboot? http://askubuntu.com/questions/759706/how-to-write-upstart-script-for-a-background-service-d
[17:51] <goddard> this is stock or with new kernels FROM THE REPOs
[17:51] <bazhang> goddard, please address the channel every 15-20 minutes
[17:51] <Guest63034> Don't know if it's a bug or a feature, but when I'm pressing Alt+Tab, I can only switch the windows that are in my current workspace as opposed to all workspaces.
[17:52] <bazhang> goddard,  if someone knows, they will help you
[17:52] <Pici> 22
[17:53] <lerner> is goldendict also old?
[17:54] <bazhang> lerner, which version of kubuntu
[17:54] <lerner> 16.04
[17:54] <bazhang> !info goldendict
[17:55] <bazhang> no lerner
[17:55] <lerner> |info firefox
[17:55] <lerner> !info firefox
[17:55] <bazhang> lerner, firefox is always kept current
[17:56] <lerner> what does any of you know about me?
[17:56] <k1l> lerner: thats offtopic in here
[17:56] <bazhang> lerner, thats not on topic here
[17:56] <bazhang> lerner, try some chat channel NOT here
[17:56]  * Xark adds lerner to the watch list...
[17:58] <ArminiusTux> Hello, is Ubuntus EFI implementation still in some sort of BETA ?
[17:59] <k1l> ArminiusTux: no (but i would call efi and what the manufacturers think how that works is beta in general :/ )
[17:59] <Samuel_Vimes> do you have any problems with it ArminiusTux ? It is out of beta but it is also made in hell, can be tricky.
[17:59] <ArminiusTux> Samuel_Vimes: That an ouright understatement ;-)
[18:00] <mikeymop> k1l: UEFI is great, efi is a mess
[18:00] <mikeymop> no one completely complies with UEFI though
[18:00] <mikeymop> Dells got it goin on though
[18:00] <thatguy> hey the windows of a friend crashed and now he has .tex file where if you open it it just says "null null null null". I guess it crashed somehow through the save process and something is wrong now. Is there any tool which can look if it finds there original text which was saved in that file by maybe cutting of the first few bits or whatever?
[18:00] <ArminiusTux> Well I have been using Ubuntu for years, but this way my first installation on a EFI system - well rather a dozen attempts to do so
[18:01] <Samuel_Vimes> I only buy lenovo thinkpads (T, W or X-series) because I know they get tested with different linuxes, afraid of buying other brands after EFI said hello :/
[18:01] <bazhang> thatguy windows?
[18:01] <Samuel_Vimes> ArminiusTux remember to disable secure boot
[18:01] <thatguy> bazhang, I have the file now, I am on linux
[18:01] <Bashing-om> !uefi | ArminiusTux
[18:01] <bazhang> thatguy so what sort of file is it
[18:02] <thatguy> .tex
[18:02] <ArminiusTux> Samuel_Vimes: done that, even bootetd throught the old fashion (with a full boot menu)
[18:02] <goddard> bazhang: have a look https://insider.razerzone.com/index.php?threads/linux-on-a-new-blade.4115/page-7
[18:02] <thatguy> I guess that is just a plain txt file actually
[18:02] <mikeymop> ArminiusTux: if it started with windows, besure to disable secure boot
[18:02] <mikeymop> and disable raid for ahci if you have an intel chip
[18:02] <bazhang> thatguy you need a Tex reader then?
[18:02] <Samuel_Vimes> ArminiusTux, did you also boot the USB in UEFI mode (can be checked in terminal), it is also possible, and often default, to boot it in legacy. Then grub won't even show up after the installation
[18:03] <thatguy> bazhang, what no, I have a tex reader, my friend too. the computer crashed and now the file is corrupted, it only contains a very large iteration of "NULL"
[18:03] <mikeymop> thatguy: I actually had much luck renaming many files to .txt and opening them in gedit
[18:03] <ArminiusTux> the capital error appears around three thirs into the installation - error msg: grub-efi-amd64-singed failed to install
[18:03] <k1l> thatguy: .tex files are plain text files. so you can use any editor.
[18:03] <tme5> thatguy, if it says NUL specifically, then there might be no hope
[18:03] <bazhang> goddard, please dont target single users, every 15-20 minutes to the open channel will do
[18:03] <tme5> NULL is ascii 0
[18:03] <ArminiusTux> Samule_Vimes: I was doing a DVD install with a EFI boot up (vanilla boot menu)
[18:04] <k1l> thatguy: but i suspect the crashing windows just fried that file and its gone now.
[18:06] <Loshki> thatguy: it's odd that you managed to corrupt a file that was only open for reading (if that's what truly happened). But I agree with tme5. If there's nothing in there but NULLs, you aren't gonna do a restore from it. Did it leave any backup files anywhere?
[18:06] <Samuel_Vimes> ArminiusTux, DVD usually boots in legacy, this would be so much easier for you if you used a USB. else you can usually fix it by going into the boot menu and choose to boot the DVD in EFI/UEFI mode
[18:06] <ArminiusTux> Over the last weekend I must have attempted about 20 Linux installations (Lubuntu & MATE on PPC64 and Ubuntu Studio on AMD64) - all failed though for different reasons ;(
[18:06] <Sayona> Hi, i want to configure pure-ftpd to use virtual users from local file (db) and the linux users at the same time. something to combined.... Can anyone help me?
[18:06] <tme5> Loshki, if it's a TeX editor it would open rw
[18:07] <thatguy> Loshki, all the usual tex files, but I think none of them is a backup file. He was editing when it crashed
[18:07] <ArminiusTux> Samule_Vimes: Did I mention that no USB device were working on this release ;-)?
[18:07] <Samuel_Vimes> what release?
[18:08] <Samuel_Vimes> (16.04?), if your talking about 16.04 then use Rufus and write to the USB in DD-mode from Windows.
[18:08] <ArminiusTux> 16.04 LTS Ubuntu Studio - no USB controllers are working (2.0 onchip and 3.0 external)
[18:09] <Samuel_Vimes> My USB-s wouldn't be seen either, rufus with DD-mode solved it. given that your EFI system can detect your USB-ports, if it can't you should probably send your computer inn for repair.
[18:09] <ArminiusTux> the usb ports are ok - ubuntu just cant make use of them if I boot from Ubuntu DVD
[18:10] <ArminiusTux> You mean to say that installting from USB stick might be different than from DVD ?
[18:10] <Samuel_Vimes> try to install with USB that has been made with rufus, then try to find some chipset drivers. Or find out if your EFI has the capability of booting USB in EFI (not all of them can do that)
[18:10] <kristian_on_linu> hi
[18:11] <Samuel_Vimes> USB boot is *almost* always defaulting to legacy mode.
[18:11] <ArminiusTux> Yeah that works (been upgrading firmware this way)
[18:11] <OerHeks> ArminiusTux, does that pc come with windows? if so, disable fast boot to get usb working, most likely issue
[18:11] <Samuel_Vimes> *no dvd i mean
[18:11] <kristian_on_linu> I'm on Ubuntu 14.04.4 LTS ... what is the newest kernel I can use?
[18:11] <OerHeks> not secureboot, but fastboot.
[18:11] <Samuel_Vimes> So Rufus DD-mode, install booting the USB in EFI mode, come back if you still have problems.
[18:11] <ArminiusTux> OK Samuel I am giving it a shot right way
[18:12] <slee> hi, has anyone heard anything as far as when the fix for Samaba will be ready?
[18:12] <k1l> !hwe | kristian_on_linu
[18:12] <kristian_on_linu> cpuinfo gives me Intel(R) Core(TM) i5 CPU M 540  @ 2.53GHz
[18:12] <k1l> kristian_on_linu: so officially its the 4.2 kernel from the 15.10. but there should be already a 4.4 kernel from 16.04 for testing purposes
[18:12] <kristian_on_linu> I can't do 4.6?
[18:13] <MatToufoutu> today I upgraded from 14.04 to 16.04, upgrade process went well, but at reboot time, it seems LVM can't see my vg, I get a 'volume group "ubuntu-vg" not found' and then it errors when I input my encryption passphrase (which makes sense if the vg can't be found), has anyone experienced this?
[18:13] <Samuel_Vimes> you can kristian_on_linu, but then things might break in funny ways : D
[18:13] <k1l> kristian_on_linu: just on your own support.
[18:13] <kristian_on_linu> I have some wifi issues, and they seem to disappear with 6.4 ... but other stuff breaks
[18:13] <k1l> !mainline | kristian_on_linu
[18:13] <Loshki> thatguy: most decent editor save a crashfile of some kind. Did yours?
[18:14] <Samuel_Vimes> kristian_on_linu, build your own kernels, it's not that hard and there are guides online (but as I said, things might break..) or change to a rolling release cutting edge distro to get instant upgrades
[18:14] <kristian_on_linu> I built kernels back in the day, it was not that hard
[18:14] <varaindemian> do you expect ubuntu snappy store to become as big as ubuntu software center? will developers start to create apps with the "snap" philosophy in mind from now on?
[18:14] <kristian_on_linu> what is the snappy store?
[18:15] <Samuel_Vimes> kristian_on_linu, http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/04/ubuntu-16-04-lts-snap-packages
[18:15] <thatguy> Loshki, no nothing that looks like a crash file in the folder where the .tex file lies
[18:15] <k1l> varaindemian: that would be a discussion topic for #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:15] <tme5> varaindemian, i expect it will be very useful for proprietary devs
[18:15] <kristian_on_linu> also, what is the snap philosophy? Existentialism, stoicism, utilitarianism ... ?
[18:15] <kristian_on_linu> :p
[18:15] <Samuel_Vimes> They are made so that you can use up to date packages on LTS releases with "old" libraries without having to replace OS wide libraries.
[18:16] <Bray90820> To Is backing up the samba conf all I need to do to backup my samba config
[18:16] <Samuel_Vimes> I think it's a super great idea, they offer specific updates. So a dev. can update only the libs. or certain parts of a program instead of the whole thing.
[18:16] <tme5> afraid not MatToufoutu
[18:17] <Samuel_Vimes> If we are lucky other distro's will adopt it instead of making their own snap-system and more fragmentation.
[18:17] <kristian_on_linu> "The 14.04.2 and newer point release will ship with an updated kernel and X stack by default" -- so I already have it?
[18:17] <k1l> kristian_on_linu: uname -a?
[18:17] <Samuel_Vimes> kristian_on_linu, write "uname -a" in terminal
[18:17] <varaindemian> kristian_on_linu: imagine arch linux adopting it :)
[18:17] <kristian_on_linu> k1l, Ubuntu 14.04.4 LTS
[18:18] <k1l> kristian_on_linu: no. that is not the output
[18:18] <Samuel_Vimes> on my I got "4.4.0-21-generic #37-Ubuntu "  for 16.04
[18:18] <kristian_on_linu> (I actually gave that info when I joined ;) )
[18:18] <varaindemian> Samuel_Vimes: ^
[18:18] <kristian_on_linu> Linux viper 4.6.0-999-generic #201604132201 SMP Thu Apr 14 02:03:31 UTC 2016 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[18:18] <tme5> Samuel_Vimes, i understand the snap repo code is properietary though?
[18:18] <Samuel_Vimes> tme5 no it is open source
[18:18] <kristian_on_linu> and yes, that was lsb_release -a by mistake
[18:18] <tme5> good good ;)
[18:19] <Samuel_Vimes> but you can release proprietary code through it '
[18:19] <k1l> kristian_on_linu: so you use a non ubuntu kernel already.
[18:19] <kristian_on_linu> this kernel is wonky, though
[18:19] <kristian_on_linu> yes, I want something newer than the default one in the hope that my wifi will work ... it seems to work with this, but I can't login most of the time
[18:20] <k1l> what issue is that exactly? what wifi card?
[18:21] <goddard> bekks: did you see this link https://insider.razerzone.com/index.php?threads/linux-on-a-new-blade.4115/page-7
[18:22] <goddard> bazhang: target specific users? You were asking questions I thought you understood the suspend process.
[18:22] <goddard> Do you not?
[18:23] <kristian_on_linu> k1l, I'm either thrown off or it is dead on startup
[18:23] <kristian_on_linu>  Centrino Advanced-N 6200
[18:24] <DirtyCajun> im having issues with my ubuntu-vm-builder. its building it properly... but not adding it to my qemu:///system. I have --libvirt=qmeu:///system as an agrument
[18:24] <kristian_on_linu> I tried all kinds of stuff
[18:24] <kristian_on_linu> actually went from Mint to Ubuntu in hopes it would resolve the issue
[18:25] <ikonia> kristian_on_linu: you're not really using a stock ubuntu are you
[18:25] <ikonia> kristian_on_linu: lets be honest here
[18:25] <kristian_on_linu> what?
[18:26] <kristian_on_linu> I am using a stock Ubuntu, except for the faulty kernel ... what makes you think otherwise?
[18:26] <terratoma> partman and or preseed is broken in latest ubuntu https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debian-installer/+bug/1347726
[18:26] <ikonia> kristian_on_linu: faulty kernel ?
[18:26] <ikonia> terratoma: why are you telling us ?
[18:26] <VladimirVolkov> Hello! I need descent manual to configure iptables l7 filters. Do you have any one?
[18:26] <ikonia> VladimirVolkov: the guys in #netfilter will
[18:26] <kristian_on_linu> yes, as I said I can't log in most of the time with this one ... I have to restart a dozen times
[18:26] <terratoma> ikonia: it sounded like a relevant topic for #ubuntu.  do you disagree ?
[18:27] <ikonia> terratoma: not really, just posting a bug report - what do you want us to do with that ?
[18:27] <bmoloney> Has anyone successfully installed 16.04 on a NVME device?
[18:27] <terratoma> ikonia: i dont know. share my pain i guess.  its a year old bug ! what should i do
[18:27] <k1l> kristian_on_linu: try to disable the n frequencies for that card
[18:27] <terratoma> am i the only person on the planet trying to preseed ubuntu
[18:27] <Edgan> bmoloney: yes
[18:27] <ikonia> terratoma: get it confirmed, and work with people to get a fix pushed into the build
[18:28] <Edgan> terratoma: The bento git repo for building vagrant boxes uses it.
[18:28] <ikonia> terratoma: the fact that others are not feeling this problem suggests it may be more specific than you think, so you need to work it through, work with others to move it forward
[18:28] <terratoma> theyre probably not using preseed like all of us suckers in that bug report
[18:28] <Edgan> bmoloney: I have a Lenovo P50 with a NVME and it works fine.
[18:28] <ikonia> terratoma: right, so it's a specific use case, work it through
[18:29] <terratoma> its not a pressed problem, its some bug introduced into partman, that makes debian-installer sad
[18:29] <ikonia> terratoma: ok, there we go, so you've narrowed it down to 2 approaches, generic installer and specific partman - work with people to take it forward
[18:29] <fenix_peregrino> hellow guys, can someone tell me a good channel for VPN topics?
[18:29] <bmoloney> Edgan: Ok, I am hitting issues with some servers that have Intel P3600 PCIe storage.  Thought it might be a general NVME thing.
[18:29] <ikonia> fenix_peregrino: ##networking use the "alis" bot to search for chanels, we are not a yellow pages
[18:29] <bazhang> !alis | fenix_peregrino
[18:29] <Edgan> bmoloney: Mine is a laptop and the device I am using is a Samsung
[18:30] <bmoloney> Edgan: Ok thanks for the info
[18:30] <fenix_peregrino> ikonia: thanks!
[18:30] <kristian_on_linu> k1l, like this? http://askubuntu.com/questions/529347/how-do-i-keep-my-wifi-from-dropping-out
[18:34] <morsnowski> how do I get rid of this Amazon stuff that ships with Xenial?
[18:34] <ikonia> morsnowski: what amazon stuff
[18:35] <morsnowski> under other there is an icon amazon, if I look at it it appears to some kind of launcher ?
[18:35] <k1l> morsnowski: please be more specific. the old FUD is not right anymore
[18:35] <ikonia> morsnowski: so you don't even know what it is - yet you want it gone
[18:35] <ikonia> well done
[18:35] <bazhang> fud is never right
[18:35] <morsnowski> yes
[18:35] <Bilz> hi. I just installed cmake from source on ubuntu (after removing cmake 3.2 which was installed through sudo apt-get install (apt-get remove cmake)). Now I try and run cmake and it says "bash: /usr/bin/cmake: No such file or directory". Any suggestions? I'm crap with this sort of thing...
[18:35] <ikonia> Bilz: then why did you do it
[18:35] <ikonia> why did you not use the version shipped with ubuntu that was going to be compatible
[18:35] <k1l> kristian_on_linu: yes.
[18:36] <Bilz> ikonia, because the software I'm compiling requests a minimum of 3.3...
[18:36] <ikonia> Bilz: you'll find there is a symlink for alternatives probably pointing at the binary you removed
[18:36] <tme5> Bilz, how did you install it?
[18:36] <morsnowski> ikonia, I have a tendency of removing things I don't think I need. If that breaks the system I fix it. That's the way I learn.
[18:36] <ikonia> morsnowski: but you've not even managed to learn what i sit
[18:36] <ikonia> it is
[18:36] <BenderRodriguez> HELP! I set up samba server to share my home folder
[18:36] <BenderRodriguez> I can access it but I can't write or delete files
[18:36] <ikonia> morsnowski: so I don't think thats a good move - how about learn what it is, what it does before you pull it
[18:37] <ikonia> morsnowski: you don't even know what package it links to
[18:37] <BenderRodriguez> which doesn't make sense, as I authenticated with the user folder's account
[18:37] <BenderRodriguez> any ideas?
[18:37] <morsnowski> ikonia, yes true but I don't see any reason for me to have it
[18:37] <bazhang> what version of debian/ubuntu BenderRodriguez
[18:37] <BenderRodriguez> 16.04
[18:37] <Bilz> right, i do a whereis cmake and I see its in /opt/cmake/bin/cmake . tme5 , installed from source: ./configure, make, make install
[18:37] <ikonia> morsnowski: I do - you don't know what it is, or what it does
[18:37] <ikonia> morsnowski: come back when you have info on it
[18:37] <bazhang> #samba BenderRodriguez
[18:37] <ikonia> Bilz: update alternatives and / or change your path
[18:37] <tme5> ok make install puts stuff in weird locations
[18:37] <ikonia> tme5: no it doesn't
[18:37] <tme5> not recommended usually
[18:37] <ikonia> it puts them where you tell it to
[18:37] <ikonia> exactly where you tell it to
[18:38] <morsnowski> ikonia, I know I get a ban out of this but your attitude sucks arse
[18:38] <tme5> ^
[18:38] <BenderRodriguez> What was the point of asking for the version >.>
[18:38] <tme5> ikonia, not in standard locations that users are used to
[18:38] <ikonia> morsnowski: you're not going to get a ban, just dont call people names
[18:38] <tme5> but i digress
[18:38] <ikonia> tme5: it puts it exactly where you tell it to - standard/non-standard locations, it's up to you where it goes
[18:38] <tme5> i know this
[18:39] <Bilz> what is the standard location?
[18:39] <Bilz> /usr/bin?
[18:39] <bekks> Bilz: Depends :)
[18:39] <mlc> BenderRodriguez, what's your issue?
[18:39] <tme5> i recommened creating a link to the binary, at /usr/local/bin/cmake
[18:39] <akik> tme5: make install puts the files according to the --prefix you set
[18:39] <bekks> tme5: Thats the unclean way of doing things.
[18:40] <Bilz> whats the clean way?
[18:40] <tme5> installing from source is unclean :P
[18:40] <ikonia> why /usr/local/bin ? it's not in /usr/local/bin
[18:40] <ikonia> what good is putting a symlink in/to /usr/local/bin ?
[18:40] <tme5> as in, put the link there. unless there's a better way
[18:40] <ikonia> he's already said it's in opt
[18:40] <ikonia> why ?
[18:40] <ikonia> what value is creating a symlink ?
[18:40] <morsnowski> ikonia, I wouldn't if you werent to react like hen whose egg you stamped. What is the point of leaving a distro the way it is. If I don't want or need an app on my machine I should have the right to remove without that the powers that be approve of my lewd plans. Else I can go back to windows
[18:41] <ikonia> morsnowski: you can remove what you want
[18:41] <ikonia> morsnowski: it's up to you what you have on your box
[18:41] <Bilz> bleugh
[18:41] <morsnowski> you just told me to fuck off and learn things before I get any help here
[18:41] <ikonia> morsnowski: tone down the language
[18:41] <tme5> Bilz, you ok now?
[18:41] <ikonia> morsnowski: I didn't tell you anything of the sort
[18:42] <bekks> morsnowski: He told you not to remove things when not knowing what they are for. :)
[18:42] <morsnowski> you are ususalla super ehlpful so maybe I'm just cranky because of your unusual unhelpful attempt
[18:42] <morsnowski> bekks, scroll up
[18:42] <bekks> morsnowski: I did. I was in here when it happened.
[18:42] <Bilz> tme5, no :\
[18:42] <ikonia> morsnowski: I am being helpful but stopping you do silly things to your system
[18:42] <tme5> what's the issue?
[18:42] <morsnowski> it's gone and I don't think ubuntu will go belly up anytimie soon
[18:43] <ikonia> morsnowski: if you want to ignore it and carry on - do that, but as you don't even know what the package is - you're going to struggle
[18:43] <ikonia> morsnowski: hence "do some research"
[18:43] <morsnowski> ikonia, I told you how that works with me. I break it then I fix it, that's the fun part.
[18:43] <ikonia> morsnowski: you don't even know the package
[18:43] <ikonia> how can you remove it
[18:44] <morsnowski> sudo apt-get remove unity-webapps*
[18:44] <morsnowski> did it just fine
[18:44] <Bilz> sudo ln -s /opt/cmake/bin/cmake /usr/local/bin/cmake -> result: ln: failed to create symbolic link ‘/usr/local/bin/cmake’: File exists  ... that being said, I don't really know what I am doing. reading this though, i think i'm going to delete /usr/local/bin/cmake and run again
[18:44] <ikonia> morsnowski: what else did that remove ?
[18:44] <ikonia> Bilz: why are you creating a symlink ??
[18:44] <ikonia> Bilz: what is the point of tht ?
[18:44] <ikonia> that
[18:44] <morsnowski> I'm waiting for Ubuntu to tell me
[18:44] <morsnowski> but as far as I can see nothing I care fotr
[18:44] <Bilz> ikonia, because I don't know what to do...
[18:45] <Bilz> and someone has told me to create a symlink
[18:45] <bekks> Bilz: You should stop doing things like that.
[18:45] <Bilz> bekks, what should I do?
[18:45] <ikonia> Bilz: I've told you what to do
[18:45] <ikonia> Bilz: update alternatives to point at your install, and/or update your path to point at it
[18:45] <bekks> Bilz: If you want to install cmake, install cmake. No need for pointless symlinks.
[18:45] <Bilz> alright
[18:45] <Bilz> need to go learn about update-alternatives :D
[18:46] <Sayona> Hi, i want to configure pure-ftpd to use virtual users from local file (db) and the linux users at the same time. something to combined.... Can anyone help me?
[18:46] <ikonia> Sayona: what OS are you using ?
[18:46] <curlyears> I need to know how to remove the grub and other boot infirmation form an HD, without damaging the other data on the drive
[18:46] <Sayona> Linux
[18:47] <ikonia> Sayona: what linux distro
[18:47] <Sayona> Ubuntu
[18:47] <bekks> curlyears: Why would you want to do that? :)
[18:47] <ikonia> Sayona: I don't think you are
[18:47] <Sayona> I have a lot of distro version
[18:47] <Sayona> Ubuntu / Centos / Debian
[18:47] <ikonia> Sayona: I think you're bluffing as you're spamming this in every linux channel
[18:48] <tme5> Bilz, apologies for the poor advice :P
[18:48] <curlyears> bekks:  the drive used to be the only drive on the system.  I have a new larger drive I am using to boot from
[18:48] <tme5> from me
[18:48] <bekks> curlyears: And why do you want to remove grub then?
[18:48] <Sayona> I try to configure on all distro and is the same... connot do to work using local user from linux with virtual users
[18:48] <ikonia> Sayona: what vesion of ubuntu
[18:49] <Sayona> 14.4
[18:49] <curlyears> because it seems to be confusing the system.  When I have both drives connected, and try to boot, it compl;ains about multiple boot recordds
[18:49] <ikonia> Sayona: can I see the output of uname -a please
[18:49] <bekks> curlyears: Whats the exact message you get?
[18:49] <akik> curlyears: the mbr is bytes 1-446, partition table is from bytes 447. test it with some extra hd
[18:50] <curlyears> bekks:  it's been a few weeks, since I tried this, I don't recall exactly.
[18:50] <bekks> curlyears: So reproduce it please, before destroying your system.
[18:51] <curlyears> why would I want/need boot info on a secondary drive?
[18:51] <bekks> curlyears: Why would you need to remove it? You can install grub on every disk, but that doesnt matter for booting.
[18:52] <Bashing-om> curlyears: I too multi-boot .. There can be but one booting authority per drive . I disable os-proper in all but my primary operating system . That primary controls which system to boot .
[18:53] <curlyears> bekks:    Isee.  This system was wiped out when I clicked "upgrade now."   I was running 14.02 and I was suppodedly upgrading to 14.03.   Total cluster-f
[18:54] <touil> Hello. I have a bug in my new 16.04 installation. When I let the screen be turned off after some time of inactivity, the screen cannot 'wake' when I hit a key, or move the mouse, or try ctlr+alt+F1. The only thing I can do is to use the power button to shut down the computer.
[18:54] <curlyears> I has taeksn me 4 months to get itback online )-:
[18:54] <bekks> curlyears: Do you mean "14.04.2"? And an update doesnt wipe out anything.
[18:54] <sruli> can anyone help me with dual boot luks os? i have multiple OS's 2 of them luks, for 1 of the luks i added a custom.cfg (paste.ubuntu.com/16054641/ ) file in /boot/grub, but when i boot it i get an error see image here http://ctrlv.in/743681
[18:54] <Bilz> bekks, so where is the correct place to install stuff? what does it depend on?
[18:55] <ioria> touil,  i think is a light-locker bug
[18:55] <bekks> Bilz: It depends on where it belongs.
[18:55] <ioria> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/light-locker-settings/+bug/1559735
[18:55] <Bilz> where would cmake belong, for example. how come there isn't just a default location
[18:55] <ioria> touil,  i tried the patch and it works
[18:55] <ikonia> Bilz: it doesn't matter - you have it in /opt - use it
[18:56] <touil> ioria, it is weird, because the problem does not occur on another of my computers with 16.04 as well.
[18:56] <ioria> touil,  really ?
[18:56] <curlyears> all I know s when I told it to go ahead and reboot the system, it wouldn't boot.  Kept crashing and dumping ,e into a grub prompt
[18:56] <Edgan> sruli: You are trying to encrypted /boot?
[18:56] <ioria> touil,  intel ?
[18:57] <touil> ioria, the computer were the bug doesn't occur is an old netbook with intel graphics card.
[18:57] <Bilz> ikonia, i have. i just want to know when it does matter...
[18:57] <ioria> touil,  me too
[18:57] <ikonia> Bilz: it's your box, you can put things where you want
[18:58] <touil> ioria, the computer where the bug occur is an old computer with an ati radeon X1300 graphic card.
[18:58] <Bilz> cheers mate
[18:58] <sruli> Edgan: yes, i have 2 distros with luks encryption installed
[18:58] <ioria> touil, if you start light-locker with shortcut ... what happens ?
[18:58] <mikeymop> how is encryption on linux?
[18:58] <touil> ioria, the trouble is to get the screen 'out' of sleep.
[18:58] <reisio> mikeymop: encryptiony
[18:58] <mikeymop> do you just get a password prompt before lightdm comes up?
[18:58] <reisio> mikeymop: depends on how you do it
[18:58] <mikeymop> i mean like the UX of the whole thing. Android leaves a little to be desired compared to hwat I saw on osx
[18:58] <touil> ioria, with shortcut ?
[18:59] <reisio> mikeymop: it can be one in the same with the login manager, if you like
[18:59] <curlyears> I am ytrying to decide where to mount my second 3TB drive.  i was considering mouting it as /user
[18:59] <ioria> touil, crtl + L
[18:59] <ioria> touil, or alt + crtl + L
[18:59] <mikeymop> reisio: oooh fancy. have you done that with lightdm and a separate /home?
[18:59] <newbee_> hi
[18:59] <newbee_> i'm new to linuix
[19:00] <touil> ioria, no problem, I get the login screen.
[19:00] <reisio> mikeymop: IIRC that's how Ubuntu's installer does it by default if you ask for an encrypted /home
[19:00] <Edgan> sruli: Standard Ubuntu/Fedora don't try to encrypt /boot.
[19:00] <reisio> newbee_: hi
[19:00] <mikeymop> reisio: thank you
[19:00] <curlyears> IK.  Any easy was of removing all the ubuntu install stuff without removing my data?
[19:00] <reisio> curlyears: what for
[19:01] <touil> ioria, the problem when my screen goes to sleep after inactivity is that it switches off (I can see it with its led)  but does not go back on when I hit a key or move the mouse.
[19:01] <newbee_> linux
[19:01] <newbee_> i am trying to install ubuntu 16.04
[19:01] <bekks> curlyears: you dont need to remove grub from a specific disk.
[19:01] <newbee_> ?
[19:01] <curlyears> reisio:  tethe linux install on that drive is just using/wasting space.  I want to recover the capacity
[19:01] <MonkeyDust> newbee_  what happens when you try
[19:02] <curlyears> bekks: understood.  thank you
[19:02] <newbee_> it doesn't say anything
[19:02] <Edgan> touil: Unity? Gnome? etc?
[19:02] <owen1> i am installing sysstat (https://github.com/sysstat/sysstat) for monitoring my server and i need to point the output of this app to syslog. how do i do that? i don't see anything about it in the install doc (https://github.com/sysstat/sysstat/blob/master/INSTALL).
[19:02] <newbee_> sorry. my fault. i mean after installation completed
[19:02] <touil> Unity. Standard 16.04 installation.
[19:02] <ioria> touil, ok, not that bug then
[19:02] <Edgan> touil: what video card?
[19:02] <touil> Does not seems like this one. Yes.
[19:02] <sruli> Edgan: i am not encrypting boot, the the root fs, but i am dualbboting multiple OS's 2 of them have luks and i need a way to get my custom.cfg to boot properly
[19:02] <touil> Ati radeon X1300.
[19:03] <touil> That is Gallium 0.4 on ATI RV515
[19:04] <reisio> curlyears: recover it to continue storing random data on the partition?
[19:04] <curlyears> reiso: correct\
[19:05] <Edgan> sruli: normally Ubuntu does all the crypto stuff in the initrd, not as part of the grub configuration. I am using luks and I have to mention of luks or crypt in my grub.cfg
[19:05] <Mendex> Hello:-)
[19:05] <akik> curlyears: if you are certain which of your hard disks boots and which partitions are mounted in use, you can erase the other one
[19:05] <treker> Hi, I have a machine that is running centos 6.3, if I run "yum update" will this upgrade my os to 6.7?
[19:05] <Edgan> treker: #centos
[19:06] <curlyears> akik:   I suppose so.  I just thought there might be a more "elegant" solution
[19:06] <akik> curlyears: /proc/swaps shows the swap partitions
[19:07] <curlyears> treker Go find a cenos support group and ask them\
[19:07] <Mendex> How do you install a .tar package in ubuntu ie bitchx-1.2.1.tar
[19:07] <MonkeyDust> !tar | Mendex
[19:07] <curlyears> akik:  thanks.   I was aware of that
[19:08] <reisio> curlyears: r-e-i-[TABkey]
[19:08] <Mendex> Thanks
[19:08] <reisio> Mendex: ordinarily you don't
[19:08] <lotuspsychje> im using my 4 workspaces again on unity, is there a way to make the non-active workspaces light instead of dark when switching?
[19:08] <Mendex> Okay
[19:08] <reisio> Mendex: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BitchX#Security try irssi or weechat instead
[19:08] <zimbraMind> how about i3 in ubuntu 16 ?
[19:08] <lotuspsychje> zimbraMind: try #i3
[19:09] <reisio> they're both in ordinary Ubuntu repos
[19:09] <Mendex> Thanks
[19:09] <zimbraMind> okay
[19:09] <reisio> zimbraMind: in universe repo
[19:09] <reisio> lotuspsychje: check ccsm
[19:09] <zimbraMind> ok rersio
[19:09] <lotuspsychje> reisio: tnx ill try there
[19:10] <curlyears> can 14.04 handle a single 3TB partition?
[19:10] <EriC^^> curlyears: yeah, you need gpt though
[19:10] <reisio> zimbraMind: you can tab complete in andchat by pressing the search/magnifying glass icon next to the input box
[19:10] <k1l> curlyears: yes. ubuntu works with gpt
[19:10] <curlyears> what is gpt?
[19:10] <reisio> curlyears: it's something you need sometimes to utilize >2TB partitions
[19:10] <curlyears> oh, you mean gparted?
[19:11] <bauerj> No, the partition table
[19:11] <reisio> if you were partitioning manually, it's something you might want to consider, yes
[19:11] <bauerj> GNU Partition Table
[19:11] <reisio> Ubuntu probably uses it by default
[19:11] <EriC^^> no, it's a partition table type, as opposed to msdos
[19:11] <k1l> curlyears: its the new system for partitions that works with partitions bigger thatn 2tb. the old "msdos" partition table can only work with up to 2tb
[19:11] <reisio> bauerj: not GNU
[19:11] <luca333_> .
[19:11] <reisio> it can work with >2TB, but I don't know if you'd want to put an OS on it
[19:11] <EriC^^> guid partition table
[19:11] <reisio> arguably GPT has some other benefits beside the 2TB limit, too
[19:12] <curlyears> Ah.   and how do I determine if I have gpt?
[19:12] <EriC^^> 128 partitions by default without being logical ones
[19:12] <EriC^^> curlyears: type sudo blkid -p /dev/sdX
[19:12] <EriC^^> and see what PTTYPE says
[19:13] <reisio> curlyears: if it's a 3TB device that's already formatted, you're probably all set
[19:13] <reisio> curlyears: unless, perhaps, you want to put an OS On it
[19:13] <curlyears> reisio: why would you not wanto ro run an OS on it?
[19:14] <reisio> curlyears: I just wouldn't trust a factory preconfigured partitioning for an OS, is all :)
[19:14] <sruli> Edgan: do you have 2 disros installed each in separate luks partitions?
[19:14] <reisio> they partition & format those for storage, really
[19:14] <reisio> to save users time
[19:14] <reisio> for storage
[19:15] <hautamaeki> Hello! What command can I use in terminal to hack my neighbors web cam?
[19:15] <curlyears> error:  sdX no such file or directory
[19:15] <akik> hautamaeki: you shouldn't
[19:16] <Sna4x8> I'd like to log into Ubuntu 16.04 with a USB device, but libpam-usb is no longer available in 16.04.  Does anyone know if there is a replacement package?
[19:16] <MonkeyDust> curlyears  replace X with a
[19:16] <curlyears> hautamaeki:  I concur.  Forget about it
[19:16] <dax> hautamaeki: weren't you in here yesterday with that nonsense? didn't figure out yet that we're not gonna help you?
[19:17] <hautamaeki> But I really need to teach her a lesson.
[19:17] <dax> hautamaeki: we don't care. go away
[19:17] <sruli> can anyone please help?  i have multiple OS's 2 of them on luks, for 1 of the luks i added a custom.cfg (paste.ubuntu.com/16054641/ ) file in /boot/grub, but when i boot it i get an error see image here http://ctrlv.in/743681 how can i have multiple luks disros in grub (update-grub will overwrite the one which isnt open so it must be a custom.cfg)
[19:18] <hautamaeki> She's really nice piece of ass, like 8 or 9. C'mon I'll share video with anyone who help!
[19:18] <MonkeyDust> hautamaeki  stop
[19:18] <dax> not very quick, that one
[19:18] <curlyears> I huess I am in good shape, it says 'PTTYPE = gpt'
[19:20] <curlyears> reisio: why would one not want to run an OS on gpt/
[19:20] <reisio> curlyears: I don't believe anyone asserted either side of that
[19:21] <curlyears> I thought I saw you say "unl;ess you wasnt to run an OS on it.  "   My mistake.
[19:23] <Madhumper69> when i try to do a sudo apt-get dist-upgrade i get stalled with a     50% [Connecting to ca.archive.ubuntu.com (2001:67c:1562::19)]  ??? was wroking before... internet connection is active?
[19:24] <curlyears> is TJ- about?
[19:24] <k1l> curlyears: just ask the question to the channel
[19:25] <curlyears> k1|:   no question.   I remember his helplast year, adn just wanted to say hello
[19:26] <curlyears> well, I ought to go study 14.04 some
[19:27] <Jordan_U> Madhumper69: Can you "ping6 google.com"?
[19:28] <Madhumper69> ping google.com ... yes
[19:29] <Jordan_U> Madhumper69: That's not what I asked.
[19:29] <Madhumper69> ok well i thought it was a typo i tried with ping6 and nope
[19:30] <Jordan_U> Madhumper69: Then you don't have working ipv6. Likely a problem with your modem or ISP.
[19:30] <Madhumper69> it was working before it just stoped last week?
[19:31] <zykotick9> Madhumper69: does "sudo apt-get update" work?  have to tried running this already?
[19:32] <Madhumper69> yes when it gets to archive.ubuntu.com it 0%
[19:32] <Jordan_U> Madhumper69: Happens to me all the time unfortunately, with a Comcast modem/AP. Often power cycling the modem/AP fixes it (temporarily) for me.
[19:32] <Madhumper69> okay thanks, i will try rebooting the modem
[19:32] <Madhumper69> if that doesnt work is there a way to reinstall ipv6 in ubuntu?
[19:32] <Madhumper69> or reset the ipv6?
[19:32] <akik> Madhumper69: you can select in /etc/gai.conf if you want to prefer ipv4 or ipv6. the precedence lines
[19:33] <BenderRodriguez> what happened to the tiff2pdf package for xenial
[19:33] <BenderRodriguez> >:(
[19:33] <Jordan_U> Madhumper69: You're welcome. I would be *very* surprised if the problem were on Ubuntu's end.
[19:33] <BenderRodriguez> it's not there anymore
[19:33] <Madhumper69> okay ill try taht as a lst resort...
[19:33] <Madhumper69> IPV6 VS IPV4 any big difference?
[19:35] <akik> Madhumper69: it's a big deal if they don't work :)
[19:36] <Madhumper69> lol yeah i just read this http://www.webopedia.com/DidYouKnow/Internet/ipv6_ipv4_difference.html
[19:36] <Madhumper69> got a better understanding of ipv4 and 6 , hmmmm lol
[19:39] <Harry-GAA001> Hi, I am looking for a bit of help. I have installed a web control panel on my server called TCAdmin but when I navigate to http://(my-ip-address):8880 I get an error saying "this site can't be reached"
[19:40] <cyanmodx> check port 8080 is opened or not
[19:40] <Harry-GAA001> I have checked to see if port 8880 is being allowed through ufw and it is showing up with a (ipv6) at the end and saying "allow everywhere"
[19:42] <cyanmodx> <Harry-GAA001 check at your server config
[19:42] <Harry-GAA001> do i need to refresh and restart the firewall after opening the 8080 port?
[19:42] <Harry-GAA001> Check what cyanmodx?
[19:43] <cyanmodx> yes please but not 8080 yours is 8880 right?
[19:43] <Puck`_> hi everyone
[19:43] <Puck`_> does anyone have a howto for installing gnome 3 in ubuntu 16.04 ? I just searched good old friend Google, nothing came up
[19:43] <Harry-GAA001> Yes, I have checked it in the ufw and it's there
[19:44] <Harry-GAA001> How do i restart for ufw?
[19:45] <l0llip0p> Harry-GAA001: if you find it problematic you can install gufw which is gui for ufw
[19:45] <avsu> Hi, my Ubuntu 14.04 is not notifying me that the new LTS 16.04 is available for upgrading. Why is that? In update settings I choosed "for long-term support versions". No effect.
[19:46] <zykotick9> !ltsupgrade | avsu
[19:46] <l0llip0p> avsu: 16.04 isn't stable enough for lts users wait untill sumer
[19:46] <Harry-GAA001> I don't think it is a problem with ufw as the port looks like its there and allowing traffic
[19:46] <avsu> Ok, thanks :)
[19:46] <irated> okay
[19:46] <irated> so... How come networkmanager isnt updating the search suffixs in /etc/resolv.conf :/
[19:47] <irated> Ubuntu 16.04 btw
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[19:49] <sagremor> wt?
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[19:49] <sagremor> ok thanks
[19:49] <studio-user358> Hello! In audacious-plugins 16.04, two plugins are failing with: undefined symbol: XRRGetMonitors
[19:50] <studio-user358> does anyone have the same problem?
[19:50] <Hacken> Okey, i have installed lubuntu on a usb today(using virtualbox), but on all computers i have tried it on, it's super laggy. It's an 8 gb usb 3 kingston. please help?
[19:51] <ckubrak> Hi guys, I have ubuntu server and I'm trying to setup a "scanner server" with and HP all in one. I'm trying to restart saned.service but it keeps telling me it is masked
[19:51] <ckubrak> I've tried unmasking it, but is seems it remasks autmatically
[19:53] <thunfisch> hey, I'm having trouble with the sshd on a ubuntu 15.10 machine. it's taking a really, really long time to log in. already tried the usual "fixes" with UseDNS no and alike. After a reboot it's fast again for a short while, then takes a lot longer after a few hours.
[19:53] <thunfisch> Any ideas?
[19:55] <rodrigo__> eai
[19:55] <Madhumper69> genuis thanks, it worked :D
[19:56] <rodrigo__> ok
[19:57] <thunfisch> restarting the systemd-logind seems to be a temporary fix.
[19:58] <odinlab> 2 key$ keep openIng gnome heIp. what can i do!!!!!! ubntu 16.04 gnome on T61
[19:58] <srg> I just upgraded to 16.04 from 15.10. My screen resolution is now lower and everything looks a bit blurry. Can someone point me in the right direction on how to fix it? No proprietary xorg drivers are in use right now and I don't think I was using one previously either.
[20:00] <odinlab> u$ing Gnome 3.20
[20:01] <ckubrak> I'm even trying to run systemctl unmask saned.service && systemctl start saned.service but I still get that saned.service is masked
[20:01] <TJ-> thunfisch: often-times the log-in delays can be caused by update-motd taking a long time to generate the various parts of the motd message
[20:02] <TJ-> srg: start with checking if the system is using the native resolution of the monitor with "xrandr -q", and looking at /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[20:02] <ranta> How do I troubleshoot pulseaudio crashing?
[20:03] <TJ-> ranta: try starting it manually from the shell, with "pulseaudio --start" and look at the messages it provides
[20:04] <ranta> TJ- that doesn't give me any messages at all
[20:04] <txdv> hi guys, i disk dumped the 16.04 image to a usb, im trying to run it 'try ubuntu before installing', but it asks a user/password and entering ubuntu/ubuntu <nothing>/<nothing> doesn't work, any other sggestions?
[20:04] <ranta> Doesn't pulseaudio leave independent logs somewhere?
[20:04] <l0llip0p> ranta: does it mean that it doesn't even start?
[20:05] <srg> TJ-: Looks like it's not: `Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 1024 x 768, maximum 16384 x 16384`   no higher resolutions are showing up in the Display settings though. Xorg.0.log says it's detecting a Radeon device
[20:05] <ranta> l0llip0p, no it starts, but after that it doesn't say anything. Also when it finally inevitably crashes, nothing shows up in the terminal
[20:05] <TJ-> ranta: does pulseaudio continue running though... if it doesn't return to a shell prompt then it does continue running. That suggests PA can run fine, but something in the user-session is causing it to fail to start at log-in
[20:07] <TJ-> srg: max 16384 ... that is a VERY large monitor, which makes me think that is a Virtual output, which in turn leads me to wonder if the system has hybrid graphics (nvidia optimus) and has a problem with nvidia-prime
[20:07] <odinlab> s and l key opens gnome help. how can i fix it?????
[20:07] <srg> TJ-: It's a dell monitor hooked up through a DVI converter cable. Maybe the dvi converter cable is doing something funky?
[20:07] <srg> It's not a big monitor
[20:07] <Sovereignentity> If I run this command before I install 16.04 will the restore revert me to 14.04? or should I use the built in backup program?
[20:07] <ranta> TJ- it doesnt return anything, sound stops working, and pavucontrol keeps looking for connection, never finding any. With pulseaudio -k it fixes the problem temporarily
[20:07] <Sovereignentity> http://sprunge.us/GUcQ
[20:07] <TJ-> srg: look further down at the resolution lists for the outputs
[20:08] <TJ-> ranta: ok, '-k' tells it to kill a running PA server, which makes me wonder if you have multiple users logged-in and so the PA servers are fighting over exclusive use of the hardware
[20:09] <ranta> TJ- I'm the only user of this machine, so unless ubuntu is doing something I'm not aware of, thats shouldnt be the case
[20:09] <TJ-> srg: here's what I see as an example: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16055918/
[20:10] <TJ-> ranta: OK... next time you lose sound, check for running processes with "ps -lyC pulseaudio"
[20:10] <srg> TJ-: This is mine, https://paste.ubuntu.com/16055931/ it doesn't show any other resolutions. This is weird, as I didn't change any hardware at all. It worked before the upgrade :-\
[20:11] <TJ-> ranta: if that shows an instance running, that gives you something to chase. It could be a change in permissions of the PA server's cookies "ls -la ~/.config/pulse/" - they should be all owned by your $USER
[20:12] <TJ-> srg: OK, all is clear now. Those resolutions are the defaults for SVGA modes, which means the clue will be in /var/log/Xorg.0.log and will likely show the system doesn't have the accelerated DRM driver, possibly it booted with "nomodeset" (check with "cat /proc/cmdline")
[20:13] <TJ-> srg: "pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log" and I'll take a look
[20:13] <ranta> TJ- ls -la ~/.config/pulse/ shows everything owned by me, I will check the ps command next time it crashes, thanks for the help
[20:13] <TJ-> ranta: I was playing with the PA server earlier, to make my system play sounds when I (dis)connect hardware, so got quite familiar with it :)
[20:14] <srg> TJ-: https://paste.ubuntu.com/16055977/ Thanks so much for your time looking into this, I appreciate it
[20:14] <TJ-> srg: line 7 confirms you *do not* have "nomodeset" which is good
[20:15] <ranta> TJ- I've been having trouble with pulseaudio ever since I got this PC, I'm afraid it might be my hardware somehow.. Also, the ls -la ~/.config/pulse/ command shows double entries of everything, could that cause problems?
[20:16] <ArminiusTux> Is the main bug tracker https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/ also covering derivates ?
[20:17] <MonkeyDust> ArminiusTux  which one are you using?
[20:17] <ArminiusTux> Studio
[20:17] <TJ-> srg:  line 390 onwards is a concern - the EDID data from the monitor itself is reporting those resolutions
[20:18] <MonkeyDust> ArminiusTux  not sure ... there's also #ubuntustudio
[20:18] <TJ-> ranta: there are several files kept in that directory, depending on the config. make sure one of them is "cookie"
[20:19] <TJ-> srg: are you using some kind of external adapter from the DisplayPort port to the monitor, or is it a pure DisplayPort connection through to the monitor?
[20:19] <ranta> TJ- cookie is there, but I have double everything else, double default-sink and source etc. Different dates on them, the older ones are from before I installed 16.04
[20:21] <TJ-> ranta: as long as the file names are different (which they must be!) it is fine. The naming uses UUIDs (universally unique identifiers) to keep things sane internally
[20:21] <srg> TJ-: It's an adapter. The video card output is a thin long male jack (not one I'm familiar with). my boss gave me an adapter cable that converts that jack to dvi
[20:21] <TJ-> srg: Right, thought so. Did you add that adapter since the system last worked correctly?
[20:21] <srg> TJ-: Nope, it's been there since I first installed 15.10
[20:22] <srg> I haven't touched any hardware since I installed it
[20:22] <srg> it's a work PC
[20:22] <ranta> TJ- ah right, they are different indeed, alright, thanks again.
[20:22] <TJ-> srg: hmmm.. right, this is strange since your log-file is showing valid EDID data from the monitor/adapter (i.e. not corrupted), but it looks like a default set of SVGA resolutions, not the data one would expect from a modern display. What is the top resolution the display can do?
[20:24] <TJ-> srg: the big difference from 15.10 > 16.04 is that the old AMD proprietary fglrx driver is no longer supported (AMD withdrew it) and your system is now relying on the open-source radeon driver. That doesn't help in terms of the info in the log, since we see the monitor apparently reporting an EDID with only basic SVGA resolutions, but might be at the bottom of this
[20:28] <srg> TJ-: I looked up the model of the monitor, it says the native resolution is 1280x1024 @ 60 hz
[20:30] <TJ-> srg: so you're only 1 step away from that. Does the monitor have multiple DVI ports? could the connector be in a different port to previously?
[20:31] <TJ-> srg: it looks like the PC has 2 display ports too - have you tried using the other ?
[20:32] <alu> im having issues with ca certificates
[20:32] <alu> i have the package installed
[20:32] <alu> but still i have https issues when cloning repos
[20:33] <Osmodivs> Hello. I was trying to install the latest AMD drivers in Ubuntu 16.04 64 bit, but the instructions only apply to 14.04, So, there is no way to have the latest?
[20:33] <BenderRodriguez> What happened to the tiff2pdf package in Xenial?
[20:33] <srg> TJ-: The monitor only has one dvi input. The adapter has a few outputs, I'll try them. I definitely didn't change any hardware at all. I got on the computer this morning, working fine, upgraded, rebooted, resolution was like this.
[20:34] <BenderRodriguez> Can anyone ah
[20:34] <BenderRodriguez> Nvm
[20:34] <k1l_> BenderRodriguez: was there ever such a package?
[20:34] <BenderRodriguez> k1l_, yes.
[20:34] <BenderRodriguez> it's now libtiff-tools
[20:34] <TJ-> srg: then that needs a bug report; it looks like something somewhere is not handling, or is editing, the EDID info
[20:34] <BenderRodriguez> i found it
[20:34] <BenderRodriguez> all is well
[20:34] <srg> Ok, I'll report it
[20:35] <srg> Thanksf or your help TJ-
[20:35] <srg> In the meantime, is there a way to force a resolution of 1280x1024?
[20:35] <BenderRodriguez> I wish they could document package name changes
[20:35] <k1l_> BenderRodriguez: it was always that package name.
[20:35] <TJ-> srg: probably report it against xserver-xorg-video-radeon package I think it is
[20:35] <k1l_> BenderRodriguez: they didnt change that. it was named that way since 12.04
[20:35] <TJ-> srg: there is but it is involved and could damage hardware if the GPU outputs modelines the hardware genuinely cannot support
[20:36] <srg> ahh
[20:36] <k1l_> BenderRodriguez: see http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/libtiff-tools
[20:36] <lundmar> TJ-: I'm giving up on debugging gnome-terminal - the callbacks didn't reveal anything to me. The fact that the problem goes away when debugging indicates a timing issue which require gnome/gobject/unity experitise to debug efficiently.
[20:36] <BenderRodriguez> oh
[20:37] <TJ-> lundmar: can you post a bug report against gnome-terminal with a summary of your findings?
[20:37] <lundmar> TJ-: I can put some of it in the already open bug
[20:38] <k1l_> BenderRodriguez: you might be confused with the naming from other OS or packagesystems. its called tiff2pdf on npm, for example
[20:39] <BenderRodriguez> that might be it
[20:39] <BenderRodriguez> thank you k1l_
[20:40] <cdidd> I have a very basic question. I want to change keyboard layout with capslock. If I change it in settings to caps lock, shift+caps combination still enables capitalization. How to disable this shift+caps combination and leave layout toggling functionality intact?
[20:40] <Osmodivs> Hello. I have Ubuntu 16.04 64 bits. I need the latest AMD drivers for my R9 380 GPU, but the wiki only shows instructions for 14.04. Does anyone knows how to install the latest AMD drivers?
[20:40] <cdidd> I already did that for 14.04 two years ago. Don't remember what I did.
[20:41] <k1l_> Osmodivs: there is no fglrx anymore for 16.04.
[20:41] <teward> Osmodivs: there is no more fglrx for 16.04, therefore no 'latest AMD drivers'
[20:41] <teward> bleh k1l beat me to it
[20:41] <Osmodivs> So, what do I do then?
[20:41] <k1l_> Osmodivs: amd stopped making fglrx. now the kernel ships the amd drivers
[20:42] <k1l_> Osmodivs: you know have the radeon driver or the new amd_gpu thing. but that should be used automatically
[20:43] <Osmodivs> hm...
[20:44] <Osmodivs> There is CRIMSON software but only for 14.04
[20:44] <Olotila>  /set irc_conf_mode 1
[20:46] <mrrobot_> #Vigo
[20:47] <mrrobot_> hola que tal buenas
[20:47] <chebit> hello guys,
[20:47] <chebit> apache2ctl -M | sort
[20:47] <chebit> AH00526: Syntax error on line 4 of /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/fastcgi.conf:
[20:47] <chebit> FastCgiIpcDir /var/lib/apache2/fastcgi: access for server (uid 1000, gid 1000) failed: write not allowed
[20:47] <chebit> Action '-M' failed.
[20:48] <chebit> some idea ??
[20:50] <longsleep> Is there any particular reason why the official xenial-raspi2 image does not work on rpi3?
[20:50] <bekks> longsleep: Maybe because it is for rpi2, not rpi3.
[20:51] <k1l_> longsleep: because the rpi2 and rpi3 have different hardware and on ARM you need to pack the specific drivers into the iso because there are no generic drivers like on pc.
[20:51] <airnet> selam millet neler yapıyorsunuz.?
[20:52] <bekks> !tr | airnet
[20:53] <airnet> ubottu okey
[20:53] <longsleep> bekks, k1l_: mhm well my own image with Kernel 4.1 works just fine with 2 and 3 - RPi2 and RPi2 are not so much different - i have not looked into the details yet but i was under the impression it should be possible - no?
[20:53] <bekks> longsleep: Obviously no.
[20:54] <Osmodivs> OMG...
[20:55] <Osmodivs> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ubuntu-1604-amd&num=1
[20:55] <longsleep> bekks: mhm - ok so has anyone here built a rpi xenial preinstalled image alreay?
[20:55] <Osmodivs> Ubuntu 16.04 really sucks then, eh?
[20:55] <zmitya> hi guys
[20:55] <Frjd> I have a problem on Ubuntu 16.04 with kswapd0 using 100% CPU on 1 core. echo 1 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches solves it temporarily
[20:55] <zmitya> I have a fresh 16.04 and I would like to install google earth, but lsb-core is missing :(
[20:56] <bekks> Osmodivs: Its not about Ubuntu, it is about AMD and their drivers.
[20:56] <Frjd> I also have a problem with Ubuntu Software loading forever.
[20:56] <k1l_> longsleep: #ubuntu-arm might be the better channel
[20:56] <longsleep> k1l_: yeah, thanks
[20:56] <Osmodivs> bekks, I guess... But that really sucks because I need the latest for OpenCL rendering
[20:57] <bekks> !language { Osmodivs
[20:57] <bekks> !language | Osmodivs
[20:57] <k1l_> Osmodivs: as i said already: amd stopped making the fglrx. every other linux distribution that makes a new release this year shipping the latest xorg version will have the same issue. blame amd. ask them for support if the amd_gpu doesnt work like you expect it
[20:58] <alu> uh
[20:58] <alu> cuda 7.5 is installable from 16.04 repo?
[20:59] <alldigital_>  /msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER alldigital awdzuolzjrkg
[21:00] <Tegu> alldigital_: quick, change your password
[21:00] <Madhumper69> lmao
[21:00] <brainwash> VERIFY
[21:00] <x-fak> hi
[21:00] <Frjd> Has no one else run into these problems?
[21:00] <Myrtti> Tegu: it's not a password...
[21:01] <alldigital_> damnit
[21:01] <Tegu> oh.. okay I admit I don't know anything about NickServ
[21:01] <alldigital_> why the f, xchat auto joins you to a chan is beyone me
[21:01] <longsleep> alldigital_: change you password everywhere if you reuse it, this channel is logged
[21:02] <richard> hello
[21:02] <Myrtti> alldigital_: you're not in risk, you didn't post your password
[21:02] <Myrtti> longsleep: it wasn't a password, it was a registration verification key, usable only once
[21:02] <alldigital_> just my reg key, right?
[21:02] <longsleep> ah
[21:02] <lundmar> TJ-: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/1521302
[21:03] <flappynerd> alldigital_: it doesn't?
[21:03] <flappynerd> alldigital_: also, probably better to use hexchat than xchat as I think xchat is effectively abandonware
[21:04] <alu> anyne here on 16.04?
[21:04] <TJ-> lundmar: great, that looks good. I might do some debugging of it tomorrow
[21:05] <lundmar> TJ-: I hope you can make more sense of it, I have no experience in this gnome/unity domain whatsoever so I've gone as far as I can
[21:05] <SolSoCoG> alldigital_: you just reminded me i still had to do that step
[21:10] <uwe> greetings, my software updater and do-release-upgrade is not detecting Xenial as the release to upgrade to, it tries to get wily! I have 14.04 installed ... any idea why this might happen
[21:11] <Sovereignentity> Is it a bad idea to leave /home untouched when reinstalling
[21:11] <TJ-> lundmar: I've not gone too close for a long time, but the concepts are core to all GUI event-loop programming
[21:11] <Myrtti> uwe: 16.04 isn't offered to 14.04 installs until .1 update is released in July
[21:11] <TJ-> uwe: yes; the archive servers do not have xenial listed as a candidate until the .1 release
[21:11] <lundmar> TJ-: yes, I mostly do non-GUI embedded stuff so there you go ;)
[21:12] <TJ-> uwe: d-r-u pulls in the meta-release list from http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release-lts
[21:12] <uwe> Sovereignentity, you would be retaining old configuration files, Its not a "bad" idea i would say, you might run into problems , but that are easily fixable i would say, just delete that offenisve bad configs fi they exist
[21:12] <Megabyte5785> My Xububtu installation won't recognize my Internet, so I need to be able to config it through console . How do I do that ?
[21:13] <uwe> hrm, so maybe i'll do an upgrade to development
[21:13] <TJ-> lundmar: you did very well today I think; in my mind I have a clear view of how much you narrowed down the scope
[21:13] <Megabyte5785> How can I configure my ethernet through console?
[21:13] <Bray90820> Is it a bad idea to upgrade mythbuntu 14.04 to ubuntu 16.04?
[21:13] <uwe> july sounds faaa..ar away
[21:13] <TJ-> lundmar: i think the bug will need the gnome-terminal package adding to it, but I'll wait until my results tomorrow to make changes
[21:13] <Bray90820> Or should I just wipe
[21:13] <alu> does ubuntu have cuda 7.5 in repo
[21:14] <Megabyte5785> The graphic interface won't work.
[21:14]  * uwe tries update-manager -d
[21:14] <Sovereignentity> uwe thank you
[21:14] <TJ-> Megabyte5785: "nmcli con show" to list interfaces
[21:14] <william__> any free games on steam?
[21:14] <TJ-> Megabyte5785: to try starting one "nmcli con up id <name-of-connection>"
[21:15] <william__> i just rebuilt my PC and can play games
[21:15] <TJ-> Megabyte5785: if there are spaces in the name, surround the entire name with quotation marks
[21:16] <lundmar> TJ-: I hope you can go the last step to identify and eliminate the bug. It is a really annoying issue for those of use using eg. gnome-termina in combination with tmux where we go in and out of fullscreen many times during the day.
[21:16] <uwe> oh ... oh ... nmcli ... *&#@_*@)(!11 if i just knew this existed earlier !!@!
[21:17] <Megabyte5785> Thanks. I'll try that.
[21:17] <william__> AMD FX-6300
[21:17] <Bray90820> Is updating mythbuntu 14.04 to ubuntu 16.04 a bad idea?
[21:17] <Bray90820> Or should I just wipe
[21:17] <william__>  HexChat: 2.10.2 ** OS: Linux 4.4.0-21-generic x86_64 ** Distro: Ubuntu "xenial" 16.04 ** CPU: 6 x AMD FX(tm)-6300 Six-Core Processor (AuthenticAMD) @ 2.50GHz ** RAM: Physical: 15.6GiB, 86.9% free ** Disk: Total: 1.7TiB, 56.4% free ** VGA: NVIDIA Corporation GM107 [GeForce GTX 750 Ti] ** Sound: HDA-Intel - HDA ATI SB1: HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia ** Ethernet: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. CIe Gigabit
[21:17] <william__> Ethernet ** Uptime: 1d 1h 41m 33s **
[21:17] <TJ-> lundmar: I use the same but don't min/max much if at all
[21:18] <uwe> Myrtti, TJ- thanks, trying to work around that ...
[21:18] <lundmar> TJ-: hehe, you probably have a higer res screen than I ;)
[21:18] <Megabyte5785> How can I set up my connection through nmcli?  More precisely, I need to set up my password.
[21:19] <lundmar> TJ-: btw, you might find this useful. In the end I ended up debugging gnome-terminal exactly as described here, the app-id stuff.
[21:19] <lundmar> TJ-: https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Terminal/Debugging
[21:20] <lundmar> makes it possible to start a seperate debug session next to nomarl running gnome-terminal
[21:21] <uwe> well, update-manager -d or -p and -c are not helping ... is there a "clean" way to "force" jumping to 16.04 ? should i just switch the sources.list manually to  xenial? or reinstall is the only way other than doing 3 hops ?
[21:22] <uwe> Sovereignentity, btw, is your home directory encrypted ?
[21:22] <Megabyte5785> Nmcli doesn't do that.
[21:22] <stratum> https://www.wilderssecurity.com/threads/ubuntu-lts-many-vulnerabilities-despite-long-term-support.385386/
[21:23] <x-fak> i'm searching for a better tool than gnu watch to display the differences between commands outputs display, is there a better alternative that you know of?
[21:24] <Bray90820> Is updating mythbuntu 14.04 to ubuntu 16.04 a bad idea?
[21:24] <Bray90820> Or should I just wipe
[21:24] <k1l_> !ltsupgrade | Bray90820
[21:25] <srg> I have a customized .vimrc. But when I run `sudo vi` it doesn't seem to read my .vimrc. is there a way to fix this?
[21:25] <Sna4x8> srg: Is .vimrc in your home directory?  Do you have the vim package installed (not just vi, which is default)?
[21:26] <Bray90820> k1l_: I was just wondering if mixing mythbuntu and ubuntu was ok or not
[21:26] <Jordan_U> srg: Use "sudoedit /foo/bar" instead of "sudo vi /foo/bar" and it will run vim as your user.
[21:26] <srg> Jordan_U: Ah, thank you
[21:26] <Jordan_U> srg: You're welcome.
[21:27] <Sna4x8> I'd like to log in to Ubuntu 16.04 with a USB device, but libpam-usb is no longer available in 16.04.  Does anyone know if there is a replacement package?
[21:27] <k1l_> Bray90820: maybe better ask the mythbuntu team what they think about upgrading to 16.04
[21:27] <Bray90820> I did that as well but no response
[21:27] <srg> Jordan_U: hm, it's still not reading my $HOME/.vimrc. When I run `vi foo.txt` it reads it. When I `sudoedit foo.txt` it does not apply my vimrc settings.
[21:27] <srg> I'll just copy the .vimrc into /root
[21:28] <Sna4x8> srg: Or symlink it.
[21:28] <akik> srg: try copying the .vimrc to /root/.vimrc
[21:28] <TJ-> lundmar: thanks, that looks good. On this booklet its 12.5" 2560x1440 so squintingly small but on my other main PC i've 6 1920x1200 24" monitors so I use 1 display per task
[21:28]  * srg forces everyone to use his superior vim settings
[21:28] <srg> heh
[21:28] <srg> thanks!
[21:28] <k1l_> Bray90820: ubuntu opens the LTS upgrade in july. so that is your answer then :)
[21:29] <Jordan_U> srg: How are you determining that it's not running your .vimrc when you use sudoedit?
[21:29] <lundmar> TJ-: dang, 6 monitors. That beats my little 13" 1080p sony vaio display haha
[21:29] <srg> Jordan_U: line numbers aren't there, syntax highlighting isn't on, modeline isn't what I set it to...a few other custom settings I have in .vimrc
[21:29] <Count_H> hi guys , tryiung to install steamcmd and one of the requirements is schedutils , but aptget cannot find it to install
[21:29] <Bray90820> k1l_: I can upgrade if I use the live disk
[21:30] <Count_H> has it been dropped merged  in to tcore utils or something ?
[21:30] <Jordan_U> srg: echo $EDITOR && readlink -f /etc/alternatives/editor
[21:30] <TJ-> Can someone suggest some good short sound files in the archives that I can use for hardware add/remove notifcation events? I'm currently using "/usr/share/sounds/freedesktop/stereo/device-added.oga" but its a bit undewhelming and easy to miss
[21:31] <Jordan_U> srg: Please post an example command you're using to run vim as your user, and another example command of you using sudoedit to open a file instead.
[21:31] <TJ-> lundmar: that's because I hate switching between windows on the same screen when multitasking :) Laptop has an external nvidia quadro nvs420 dual-GPU on ExpressCard interface.
[21:32] <lundmar> TJ-: quite nice indeed :)
[21:34] <Count_H> anyone ideas about schedutils ?
[21:41] <Banana_> I have a problem; I would like to use my headphones but under the playback devices/ports only speakers show up. :(
[21:41] <jayjo> if I have a program that needs to be run with sudo, is there any way to launch it from the dock?
[21:44] <RU33ERDUCK> what program?
[21:45] <RU33ERDUCK> jayjo
[21:47] <Banana_> I want to use my headphones but only my speakers show up! What do I do?
[21:48] <RU33ERDUCK> im guessing they don't just work when you plug them in?
[21:49] <Banana_> When I dive into the sound settings only speakers are under the playback tab.
[21:49] <Count_H> noob question , how do i get a list of open ports and demons using them like apache 80
[21:49] <RU33ERDUCK> Bannan have you tried them?
[21:50] <Banana_> Pretty sure they work.
[21:50] <RU33ERDUCK> Count_H, nmap would be the tool for you.
[21:51] <Count_H> thanks RU33ERDUCK
[21:51] <RU33ERDUCK> on my computer, it only shows speakers too, but if i plug in earphones they auto-take over
[21:51] <akik> Count_H: netstat -tulpan
[21:53] <Banana_> Still uses speakers when I plug them in, Every other distro I've used on this thing I have to go into the sound settings and change it.
[21:53] <Count_H> thanks akik exactly what we were looking for
[21:56] <maximus> Hi!
[21:56] <Banana_> hello!
[21:57] <maximus> Anyone else have audio issues on ubuntu mate 16.04 for raspberry pi?
[21:58] <maximus> can't seem to solve this even doing a number of things
[22:00] <skinux> Anyone know of free (as in beer) software that really will teach how to speak/read/write a language?
[22:00] <Bray90820> How would I remove system apps in ubuntu 16.04
[22:00] <vfw> Bray90820: What is a "system app"?
[22:01] <k1l_> Bray90820: remove their packages? but that might force other software to be removed
[22:01] <maximus> he probably means default apps.
[22:02] <Bray90820> vfw: The new software center lists some apps such as calculator as a system app which i am not allowed to remove but I don't really need them
[22:02] <Count_H> logical question now ,
[22:02] <Count_H> what is the reccomended game server to use on ubuntu , alternative to tcadmin
[22:02] <k1l_> Bray90820: should be gcalctool
[22:05] <vfw> !info gnome-calculator | Bray90820
[22:06] <vfw> !info gcalctool | Bray90820
[22:12] <vfw> skinux: There are online resources like duolingo.com
[22:14] <Banana_> Hello, I cant use my headphones, they wont show up under playback devices.
[22:15] <MannyLNJ> Suggestions needed: I need a PDF editor to redact PDF's, rotate PDF's and split/delete PDF pages. What's suggested?
[22:16] <reisio> MannyLNJ: PDFs with digital text?
[22:17] <MannyLNJ> reisio, Digital text? Not sure what you mean by that. I am making them by scanning using VueScan
[22:17] <coatcub> i'm using a broadcom wireless card and it says I have a driver error
[22:17] <reisio> MannyLNJ: so they start out as non-digital bitmap photographs of text
[22:17] <reisio> MannyLNJ: are you going to OCR them?
[22:17] <Megabyte>  Can you help me set up my internet connection?
[22:17] <Megabyte>  I tried to configure it manually, but it broke
[22:18] <Megabyte> And now my internet adapter won't even list my connections
[22:18] <MannyLNJ> reisio, I don't plan on using OCR to make them editable. I'm willing to work on them as pure images. I don't need to make them editable or filliable
[22:19] <mcphail> MannyLNJ: pdftk will do the splitting/rotating/deleting. Don't know about the redaction. I remember Adobe Acrobat used to do that incorrectly in Windows (so you could still copy redacted text to clipboard). Haven't seen something which can do it on Linux
[22:19] <daveinlv> Quick question: Is it ok to use the Synaptic UbuntuStudio metapackages to sort of convert a stock copy of Ubuntu 14.04??
[22:19] <reisio> MannyLNJ: so you just need an image editor
[22:19] <reisio> MannyLNJ: would be a lot easier if you had something with a stylus, too
[22:19] <coatcub> how can you disable iptables in ubuntu
[22:19] <reisio> then you could just redact them as humans would in the physical world
[22:19] <daveinlv> Err... convert it to UbuntuStudio?
[22:19] <reisio> daveinlv: yes fine
[22:20] <MannyLNJ> reisio, My laptop doesn't have a stylus unfortunately.
[22:20] <daveinlv> reisio: thank you!!
[22:20] <Mathisen> coatcub, sudo ufw disable
[22:21] <coatcub> Do you need to reboot your computer for it to take affect
[22:21] <Mathisen> no
[22:22] <reisio> MannyLNJ: if you're going to be doing a lot of it, might be a good investment
[22:24] <Banana_> Bye guys!
[22:25] <MannyLNJ> reisio, I don't plan on doing more than the occasional multi page pdf
[22:25] <reisio> then just use GIMP
[22:26] <reisio> you can combine all the images together into a PDF with any numbe of tools
[22:26] <reisio> including probably even GIMP
[22:26] <coatcub> Is their photoshop for ubuntu
[22:26] <k1l_> coatcub: look at gimp
[22:28] <ckubrak> Hey guys, if I do "scanimage -L" it doesn't find any scanner, but when I "sudo scanimage -L" it does. Any ideas how to fix it?
[22:29] <Guest20709> beans
[22:32] <Frjd> Okay so I seem to have found a solution for the kswapd0 100% CPU problem.. does anyone know what I can do to pressure test my ram?
[22:33] <connie> Hello smart folks out there. I dont know if this is the right place to ask but maybe someone can help me. I have bought a laptop with ubuntu OS but i cant get anything i need to work so id just like to switch back to good old windows. I was hoping that just booting from the CD and formatting the HD would get me back into familiar fields but i cannot even get the boot order changed from hard drive to CD. Whats the easiest way to achieve
[22:33] <assss> hii
[22:33] <vfw> Frjd: memtest
[22:33] <Frjd> vfw, will that test from inside ubuntu?
[22:33] <assss> i say hi
[22:33] <vfw> Frjd: no
[22:34] <vfw> Frjd: That's just the only way I know to test RAM
[22:34] <Frjd> vfw, I need to get my memory usage up to >80-90%
[22:34] <assss> i saw hii
[22:34] <k1l_> connie: that depends on your exact hardware. look into the manual for the mainboard/bios. most times its something like f10 or f12 or such
[22:34] <vfw> Frjd: I dono
[22:35] <Frjd> connie, what do you need to work?
[22:36] <connie> @frjd just change the boot order to cd so i can get back onto familiar windows terrain is all i need i think.
[22:36] <connie> kll, i will try that while booting to see if that helps
[22:37] <Frjd> connie, delete key is also a good bet
[22:37] <k1l_> connie: ask in ##hardware and ##windows
[22:37] <connie> kll, frjd: thanks, i will try these buttons and the other forums. thanks a lot for your help
[22:38] <Frjd> Does anyone know a memory-hungry application?
[22:39] <ejuan> memetest86
[22:43] <alu> https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/topic/932554/cuda-setup-and-installation/-ubuntu-16-04-install-cuda-7-5/
[22:43] <alu> has anyone tried this
[22:43] <reisio> probably someone has
[22:43] <TrentP> command to toggle unity launcher auto-hide?
[22:43] <alu> i installed nvidia-cuda-toolkit
[22:43] <alu> it has a buncha 7.5 dependencies listed
[22:43] <alu> but i do whereis cuda
[22:43] <alu> cuda: /usr/include/cuda.h
[22:44] <ubuntu-mate> sudo reboot will toggle unity but there is a delay
[22:46] <reisio> TrentP: I imagine it's a pref stored in dconf or gconf
[22:46] <coatcub> does ubuntu have native ipv6 support
[22:46] <reisio> coatcub: that'd be my guess, yes
[22:46] <Wulf> coatcub: certainly
[22:46] <TrentP> reisio: yeah I was looking in gsettings.....
[22:47] <reisio> you can toggle it in unity-tweak-tool
[22:47] <reisio> diff your settings and you'll find the pref
[22:48] <TrentP> reisio: looking for a command that I can map to a shortcut
[22:51] <reisio> TrentP: http://askubuntu.com/questions/274153/command-line-for-hiding-and-unhiding-unity-panel ? via: https://www.google.com/search?q=gconftool%20unity%20auto%20hide
[22:53] <alu> I'm on 16.04 and installing deep learning software, I run into this   E: Unable to locate package libqt4-core E: Unable to locate package libqt4-gui
[22:54] <Viktors_> I just tried 16.04 desktop amd64 trial on my Thinkpad T420 and it just comes up with icons on the desktop... mouse moves but clikcking or any keyboard actions do nothing.  Works ok with 14.04.  Is T420 no longer supported?
[22:54] <EriC^^> !info libqt4-core
[22:55] <donu7> Hello, I have a ubuntu 10.04 vm, i just had a brown-out that killed the vm and now i can't sudo, su to root, or use passwd. I'm only able to log in via my key. The only clue I have to go on is when I run passwd I get an error "system is offline password change is not possible" and I'm banging my head against the wall trying to figure out what I'm missing
[22:55] <teward> !10.04 | donu7
[22:56] <fathomstory> Hi, I am trying to dualboot ubuntu and PCBSD. I installed Ubuntu and then PCBSD but only BSD shows at boot. Is there a way to edit grub so that I can have my choice of OS'?
[22:56] <Wulf> donu7: what's in nsswitch.conf etc.? any special databases used?
[22:56] <fathomstory> Or is it really one or the other?
[22:57] <TrentP> reisio: launcher-hide-mode is it!  I must be gsettings wrong
[22:59] <ovidiu> Hey guys, the desktop environment on my ubuntu mate 15.10 doesn't show up, i can only see the wallpaper. What can I do?
[23:00] <donu7> @Wulf i'm not familiar with nsswitch's formatting. here's the conf - http://paste.ubuntu.com/16057506/
[23:00] <donu7> also, @Wulf the vm has zentyal 4.0 installed.
[23:00] <k1l_> alu: there is no libqt4-core in 16.04
[23:00] <Wulf> donu7: sss
[23:00] <croberts> has anyone managed to get the vsphere client running with wine
[23:00] <Wulf> donu7: you're probably in some windows environment, and sssd got issues
[23:00] <bernardo> i love macintosh!
[23:00] <donu7> @Wulf I don't follow
[23:01] <k1l_> fathomstory: ask the pcbsd guys if the have scripts for grub that scan for other OSs and add them to grub, like ubuntu does
[23:01] <Wulf> donu7: don't use "@Wulf"
[23:01] <bernardo> donu7: you have to reconfigure the md5#, as is
[23:01] <k1l_> donu7: 10.04 is long time dead now.
[23:01] <bernardo> *sad face*
[23:02] <donu7> i can't even read sssd.conf because it's root rw and i can't even elevate my access :/
[23:02] <TJ-> donu7: Wulf see "man 5 nsswitch.conf"
[23:02] <bernardo> donu7: why not?
[23:03] <TJ-> donu7: don't use the guest itself, mount the VM guest image on the host via a loop device and mount that to access the file systems
[23:04] <donu7> root login is disabled. i'm logging in via private key. any password-based mechanisms are failing without returning any useful errors. Once logged in (as a normal user) I can't sudo, or su, or even use passwd. The only clue I have is when running passwd I get the error "System is offline, password change not possible - passwd: Authentication token manipulation error"
[23:04] <donu7> sudo and su both fail with an "invalid login" error
[23:05] <k1l_> donu7: no matter how safe you make the login. that system doesnt get any security patches anymore so it might be vulnerable to well known security risks.
[23:06] <donu7> k1l_: unfortunately this vm isn't one I can easily replace or upgrade. I noticed it was on an old version of ubuntu a few months ago and still haven't gotten to where I can upgrade yet
[23:07] <DocPlatypus> this is strange. I use GNOME Classic, and normally the Applications menu is first, followed by Places. This afternoon I go back to my computer and Places is first, followed by Applications. How do I fix this without logging out and back in?
[23:07] <TJ-> donu7: the nsswitch.conf has "passwd compat sss" - sss is handled by libnss-sss and is the interface to the Sytem Security Service (sss) so likely that isn't operating
[23:08] <donu7> TJ-: is that a service? I'm not seeing an entry in /etc/init.d
[23:09] <TJ-> donu7: it'll be sssd
[23:09] <Wulf> donu7: try adding init=/bin/bash on the grub command line
[23:09] <Wulf> donu7: or some other way to recover root access
[23:11] <fathomstory> can the ubuntu disc fix grub or do we have to out and buy something to edit grub
[23:12] <halogel> Ubuntu 16.04 has frozen but the cursor still moves. How can I unfreeze?
[23:12] <RU33ERDUCK> i believe you can do it with the ubuntu cd
[23:13] <reisio> fathomstory: ^
[23:13] <k1l_> fathomstory: you need to decide which OS should handle grub.
[23:13] <RU33ERDUCK> what happened to grub?
[23:13] <fathomstory> I am booting off disc but see no edit option
[23:13] <Wulf> halogel: can you see the clock? does it change?
[23:13] <fathomstory> I want ubuntu to handle grub
[23:13] <reisio> fathomstory: 'Try Ubuntu', you can fix things from there
[23:14] <zykotick9> !fixgrub | fathomstory i'd try reinstalling ubuntu's grub, and afterwards running "sudo update-grub" if pcbsd isn't there by default (i'd think it should be able to boot it, but not 100%).  good luck.
[23:14] <halogel> Wulf: The clock has stopped
[23:14] <fathomstory> I have a boot disc, how do I install grub?
[23:14] <fathomstory> from the ubuntu boot disc?
[23:14] <Wulf> halogel: got very high disc activity?
[23:15] <zykotick9> fathomstory: see the links above.
[23:15] <Wulf> halogel: and try pressing alt-sysrq-R and then alt-f1
[23:15] <halogel> Wulf: I don't know, I'm just browsing the web.
[23:15] <RU33ERDUCK> ubuntu gives you the install option or the option to try it because its a live cd
[23:16] <fathomstory> okay, so I have to go in from a live session
[23:17] <RU33ERDUCK> yea, if you only have access to one computer, you will want to take notes on the steps to install grub
[23:17] <halogel> Wulf: what is sysrq?
[23:17] <Wulf> halogel: a key on your keyboard
[23:17] <halogel> Wulf: I don't have one of those
[23:18] <RU33ERDUCK> on a laptop sysrq i believe is often the right ctrl, i think it has a box with lines in it.
[23:18] <Wulf> halogel: try the "print" key
[23:18] <halogel> Wulf: Ok. Neither of those did anything
[23:19] <RU33ERDUCK> ha i googled it, im not sure i have one either...
[23:20] <Wulf> halogel: try alt-sysrq-B
[23:20] <halogel> Wulf: that reset my computer
[23:20] <Wulf> excellent
[23:21] <halogel> How do I prevent Ubuntu from freezing again?
[23:21] <AndChat574464> After I just installed ubuntu and then signed in it gave me a gray blank screen. I see the cursor and i can move it around but desktop isnt loading. Is there anything i can do to fix this?
[23:24] <RU33ERDUCK> those things happen frequently, the reezing and the blank screen...
[23:25] <RU33ERDUCK> you just have to figure out the right key combo to knock you out of the GUI and into the command line. then re start the GUI
[23:28] <halogel> RU33ERDUCK: Is there a version of ubuntu or linux that doesn't lock up like that?
[23:28] <alu> !info libqt4-gui
[23:28] <alu> i need this package
[23:30] <Blink`> this mirc is so bugged
[23:30] <Blink`> always giving red font from people and highlighting me
[23:30] <Blink`> ¬_¬
[23:31] <TJ-> !info libqtgui4 | alu
[23:32] <TJ-> alu: libqt4-gui was a transitional package to maintain backward compatibility in previous releases, and it depended on the actual modules required
[23:34] <alu> hmm
[23:35] <julio> olá
[23:35] <donu7> TJ-: and Wulf
[23:36] <donu7> *sigh* today is fat-finger day. I'm in single-user mode and I can't write to /etc/group. adduser returns error - cannot lock /etc/group using vi -:w! returns "unable to open /etc/group"
[23:41] <TJ-> donu7: as I said earlier, don't try to work in the running VM, mount its disk image file-system(s) on the host and access it that way
[23:41] <donu7> oh i see, thank you TJ-
[23:56] <StyxAlso> I upgraded to Ubuntu 16.04, and my computer's time is now wrong.
[23:56] <StyxAlso> markg@markg-OptiPlex-9020:~$ date
[23:56] <StyxAlso> Tuesday 26 April  19:56:06 AEST 2016
[23:57] <StyxAlso> It's 9:56 am here.
[23:58] <RU33ERDUCK> click your clock then click time settings and choose the right zone perhaps?
[23:58] <StyxAlso> RU33ERDUCK, The time zone is right. I'm in AEST.
[23:58] <Bashing-om> StyxAlso: Dual booting Windows where Windows controls the hardware clock ?
[23:59] <Wulf> StyxAlso: date -R
[23:59] <StyxAlso> Bashing-om, No, Ubuntu only.
[23:59] <StyxAlso> markg@markg-OptiPlex-9020:~$ date -R
[23:59] <StyxAlso> Tue, 26 Apr 2016 19:59:14 +1000
[23:59] <Wulf> yeah, that's wrong.
[23:59] <Wulf> StyxAlso: install ntp
[23:59] <StyxAlso> Already installed, but I'll re-install.