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okayhi!  what is the key(s) to boot with normal kernel?  I'm running Studio inside up to date Virtual Box,  thanks very much!15:22
okayhow do I request the kernel options on boot?15:23
okaywhat's the best way to make kdenlive not crash????  please and thank you15:28
zequenceokay: First of all, using Virtualbox is only useful for simple stuff. For video editing or pro audio work, you'd want to install it on a real system15:29
okayI have both15:29
okayUnderstood zequence, thanks with respect15:30
zequenceOk. As for choosing a generic kernel - you would need to install one first15:30
zequencelinux-lowlatency is more or less the same as the generic kernel, only better with latency15:30
zequenceYou could perhaps save some battery power with linux-generic, but that's pretty much it15:31
okayOn my real box, the grub had built in options for low latency or non low latency, and thank you for your help so far too15:31
zequenceIf you have both, you have installed the generic kernel at some point15:31
okayokay, cool, that answers my concern, how diffent the low latency kernel was15:31
zequenceIt's 'sudo apt-get install linux-generic'15:31
okayok, I'm just looking to actually use kdenlive, which I have high hopes for15:32
okayjust reinstalled, lets me see what happens on load...15:32
okaykdenlive on todays install from ubuntu store appears for a moment and then nothingness15:33
zequenceokay: You can use kdenlive with either kernel. No difference in functionality15:34
okayalso, I am trying to just get sound to come out of Ardour15:34
zequenceokay: using jack?15:34
zequence!proaudio15:34
ubottuFor information on professional audio tools in Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/ProAudioIntro15:34
zequenceIt's old, but informative15:34
okayI have tried with and without jack, I will read that though, thanks15:34
okaythanks so far zequence I appreciate your time15:35
zequenceokay: np!15:35
okayI let my mac die, prefer the Ubuntu philosophy and kdenlive and Ardour are in the same boat with Final Cut X and Logic Pro X15:36
zequenceI do prefer ardour over all the commercial DAWs, but I don't use a lot of flashy virtual instruments15:37
okayI have tons of experience with Logic Pro X which is almost identicle to Ardour, so I am psyched, probobobly should get to reading the article you gave me15:37
okayyep Ardour is better because of the open source development obviously I'm a developer myself one of these days I will build my own tools for Ardour15:39
okay(loading the page you gave me!  ...laggin at the moment)15:40
okaysay, zequence, what music do you make lately?15:40
okayI know obtuse question, lol15:41
zequenceokay: Metal, mostly, right now. Metal, sort of15:41
zequenceUsing ardour and some plugins15:41
okaycool15:41
okayfunny my update of google chrome is a brick trying to load that page in firefox!15:42
okayok cool15:42
zequenceokay: Maybe just temporary.15:44
okayyeah fyi, my hardware set up is minimal, one usb mic well two but one to start, and I'm not there yet, just want to get a kick drum to come out of the speaker from Ardour15:44
okayso no inputs15:44
okayjust getting the minimal audio out, I've been stuck for a long time15:45
okayembarassing15:45
zequenceokay: Do a fresh boot. Start qjackctl. Make sure to select the correct audio device first. Then start it. And, finally, start ardour15:45
okayok15:45
zequenceBy "Then start it", I mean, use the button "Start" on qjackctl to start jack15:45
okayI'm on a fresh boot other than irc and web...15:46
okayAh I think I've gotten that far let me try again15:46
zequenceokay: I say fresh boot, just to make sure there's no conflicting processes running in the background15:46
okayI thought so15:46
okaynope fresh boot, just irc and 1 web window15:47
okayhow do I select correct audio device, maybe thats where I mess up15:47
okayI assume the setup, button?15:47
okayJack says it has already started should I stop it?15:48
okayzequence? should I stop JACK? it was running when I opened the JACK Audio Connection Kit15:48
zequenceokay: Then it can't have been a fresh boot :)15:49
zequenceOr, did you add something to Ubuntu Studio. A PPA, perhaps?15:49
okayperhaps, let me see15:49
zequenceokay: Like, KXStudio PPA?15:50
okayno15:50
okayI don't think anything, its a very clean install, but I will double check15:50
zequenceokay: To make things simple, just reboot. Then, do the stuff in the right order15:51
okayok it only takes a minute to reboot, btw the only 'ppa' would be google chrome,15:52
okayXChat will save the chat history I hope, see you in about 2 min, brb15:53
okayhi, Zequence... this time I got JACK error message log, JACK server could not be started. sorry -quote16:00
okaywould alsa on mute cause that?16:03
okayI'm going to boot and try again16:03
okayleaving alsa with volume up16:04
okay zequence, you still here?16:14
zequenceokay: Yep16:14
zequenceWhen you say ALSA, what are you referring to?16:15
zequenceThe desktop audio system is called pulseaudio. It uses the ALSA backend, but is its own audio server16:15
zequenceLikewise, jack will use the ALSA backend by default16:15
okayoops I man pulseaudio16:15
okaymeant16:15
zequenceIf you start jack selecting the same device pulseaudio is using, jack will grab it16:15
zequenceThen, you can make pulseaudio connect to jack as if it was another jack client16:16
zequenceThis is, if you have jackd2 and pulseaudio-module-jack installed, which is the default16:16
okaylooks like it does that automatically for my case16:17
okayinput device on pulseaudio is "Jack source (PulseAudio JACK Source)16:17
okayoutput is... dual: Built-in Analog Stereo, and Jack sink (PulseAudio JACK Sink)16:18
zequenceokay: Yes, but you need to select the output as fallback16:18
zequenceokay: The green button16:18
zequenceehrm16:19
okaydone16:19
okayyes, Z I hilited or clicked the green button with a white mark in it FOR Jack sink16:19
zequenceRight, the green button16:19
okaywhich was previously the built in out16:19
zequenceYep, so now the output of all pulseaudio applications will be routed to jack16:20
okayincluding Ardour and I will hear sound from speakers!???16:20
zequenceWell, ardour will be using jack directly16:20
zequenceBut, yes16:20
zequenceEverything should be making a sound now16:20
zequenceIf you already have a PA (pulseaudio) application open, you need to restart it in order for it to use the new output16:21
okaycoool, thanks man, I'll hang with you and share my joy after starting a default Ardour project16:21
okaycould not reconnect to the audio/midi engine, which midi system should I select or just none?16:22
zequenceokay: If jack is running, ardour will autoconnect to jack16:23
zequenceTry to start a new project just in case (if you are opening an existing one)16:24
okayJACK Audio Connection Kit reads "Rolling" but I am getting midi errors, note fyi I have no midi hardware though I do sometime use software midi internally16:25
okayyep now I'm getting stuck on Ardour not creating a new project because it can not connect midi16:27
zequenceokay: Try hydrogen and make some sounds with that. That's the first thing I do to test sound16:27
okayk16:28
zequenceIt's a drum machine/sequencer16:28
zequenceOr tracker is perhaps the better word16:28
KimrydGod no it is not16:28
zequencehehe16:29
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KimrydRenoise*16:30
okayI see levels visually moving16:32
okayI gotta take a smoke break, thanks respectfully possibly catch you online again, zequence!16:34
studio-user976exit19:07
studio-user358hello everyone!19:22
studio-user358I have a bug with audacious-plugins I guess19:22
studio-user358in 16.04 two plugins are failing with: undefined symbol: XRRGetMonitors19:22
studio-user358does someone have the same problem?19:23
studio-user358shall I report it? and where?19:25
sirriffsalot Any mixers out there who would care to give your monitors 4 min of its time and give remarks to any obvious mixing flaws for a demo track? Designed to attract some new members, so only I worked on it so far, hoping to get the real drummer on it later19:33
studio-user706hi guys, i have a prob, someone can help me?19:39
studio-user358@studio-user706: write you problem and somebody will :)19:40
studio-user706i have a problem with the ifconfig wlp3s0 down19:43
studio-user706to change my mac19:43
studio-user706but results an error19:44
studio-user706SIOCSIFFLAGS: Operation not done19:44
studio-user706anyone can help?19:44
ArminiusTuxEvening - can I report UbuntuSTudio bugs on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/ ?20:18
MetalMusicAddict@ArminiusTux - Not usually against Ubuntu. Whats the bug?20:22
ArminiusTuxSeveral - no LAN connection, no USB controller recognition and EFI GRUB install fail20:23
ArminiusTuxTried to install (and live test) with a DVD and usb (EFI and legacy modes)20:24
MetalMusicAddictHmm... Gimmie a sec.20:24
ArminiusTuxOf course ...20:26
MetalMusicAddictArminiusTux: You havent by chance tried a vanilla Ubuntu install? If you do/have and the bug is there I would say file aginst Ubuntu.20:28
ArminiusTuxNo have been using studio for years just not on an EFI system ...20:28
MetalMusicAddictI would still lean that way honestly, however, without digging deeper its hard to tell.20:28
MetalMusicAddictGotcha. Same here. Just started building boxes with EFI.20:29
MetalMusicAddictYou try the live disk?20:30
ArminiusTuxYes DVD (efi and legacy boot) that fails (no usb and LAN support) about two thirds into the install with a efi grub install fail msg20:31
ArminiusTuxthe USB (Efig and legacy) comes up with a boot menu but soon aborts due to the usb issue20:31
MetalMusicAddictSo works fully in live mode but fails to install?20:32
MetalMusicAddictOr you just did a direct install?20:32
ArminiusTuxApart from getting a LAN connection and USB device support the live system loads20:32
MetalMusicAddictGotcha20:32
ArminiusTuxA direct install is totally unusable due to no usb support (my mouse is usb, my kb ps2)20:33
MetalMusicAddictI would try vanilla live disk. See how that goes. If you see the same issue I'd file aginst Ubuntu proper.20:34
MetalMusicAddictI assume everything works on other OSs?20:34
ArminiusTuxWin8.1 is fine20:34
MetalMusicAddictie: No HW issues.20:34
MetalMusicAddictGotcha20:34
ArminiusTuxI think I'll post that bug report right away ...20:35
ArminiusTuxMetalMusicAddict: Have you by any chance running Ubuntu on a PPC ?20:37
MetalMusicAddictSorry. Never20:44
ArminiusTuxAll right - thx for your time.20:45
sirriffsalotHere's the tune for those curious: https://www.dropbox.com/s/g0qbnme21bhigp7/demo%20mix%2002_Selection.wav?dl=020:58
sakrecoerArminiusTux: i have, but it was in 201021:13
ArminiusTuxHello sakrecoer, was it working back then and how was the performance?21:15
sakrecoerArminiusTux: i was blown away tbh.21:15
sakrecoerit was on a powerbook g421:15
ArminiusTuxahh ic, I was trying MATE & lubuntu on a G5, quite impressed with the performance, but I was having installation / boot issues21:16
sakrecoerdon't think ardour was packaged back then, but i was able to record a few tunes anyways.21:17
sakrecoerArminiusTux: yeah, installing it wasn't the easiest maybe, i can't really remember.21:19
* UserX_ sends greetings22:50
Berndist das hier überhaupt deutsch?23:09
fabio_Hello23:10
fabio_I need help with jack23:11
fabio_is anybody there?23:13
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