[01:02] <studio-user389> hi
[01:03] <studio-user389> wassa?
[01:03] <studio-user389> any photographer here?
[01:03] <studio-user389> Darktable? RawTherapee
[15:22] <okay> hi!  what is the key(s) to boot with normal kernel?  I'm running Studio inside up to date Virtual Box,  thanks very much!
[15:23] <okay> how do I request the kernel options on boot?
[15:28] <okay> what's the best way to make kdenlive not crash????  please and thank you
[15:29] <zequence> okay: First of all, using Virtualbox is only useful for simple stuff. For video editing or pro audio work, you'd want to install it on a real system
[15:29] <okay> I have both
[15:30] <okay> Understood zequence, thanks with respect
[15:30] <zequence> Ok. As for choosing a generic kernel - you would need to install one first
[15:30] <zequence> linux-lowlatency is more or less the same as the generic kernel, only better with latency
[15:31] <zequence> You could perhaps save some battery power with linux-generic, but that's pretty much it
[15:31] <okay> On my real box, the grub had built in options for low latency or non low latency, and thank you for your help so far too
[15:31] <zequence> If you have both, you have installed the generic kernel at some point
[15:31] <okay> okay, cool, that answers my concern, how diffent the low latency kernel was
[15:31] <zequence> It's 'sudo apt-get install linux-generic'
[15:32] <okay> ok, I'm just looking to actually use kdenlive, which I have high hopes for
[15:32] <okay> just reinstalled, lets me see what happens on load...
[15:33] <okay> kdenlive on todays install from ubuntu store appears for a moment and then nothingness
[15:34] <zequence> okay: You can use kdenlive with either kernel. No difference in functionality
[15:34] <okay> also, I am trying to just get sound to come out of Ardour
[15:34] <zequence> okay: using jack?
[15:34] <zequence> !proaudio
[15:34] <zequence> It's old, but informative
[15:34] <okay> I have tried with and without jack, I will read that though, thanks
[15:35] <okay> thanks so far zequence I appreciate your time
[15:35] <zequence> okay: np!
[15:36] <okay> I let my mac die, prefer the Ubuntu philosophy and kdenlive and Ardour are in the same boat with Final Cut X and Logic Pro X
[15:37] <zequence> I do prefer ardour over all the commercial DAWs, but I don't use a lot of flashy virtual instruments
[15:37] <okay> I have tons of experience with Logic Pro X which is almost identicle to Ardour, so I am psyched, probobobly should get to reading the article you gave me
[15:39] <okay> yep Ardour is better because of the open source development obviously I'm a developer myself one of these days I will build my own tools for Ardour
[15:40] <okay> (loading the page you gave me!  ...laggin at the moment)
[15:40] <okay> say, zequence, what music do you make lately?
[15:41] <okay> I know obtuse question, lol
[15:41] <zequence> okay: Metal, mostly, right now. Metal, sort of
[15:41] <zequence> Using ardour and some plugins
[15:41] <okay> cool
[15:42] <okay> funny my update of google chrome is a brick trying to load that page in firefox!
[15:42] <okay> ok cool
[15:44] <zequence> okay: Maybe just temporary.
[15:44] <okay> yeah fyi, my hardware set up is minimal, one usb mic well two but one to start, and I'm not there yet, just want to get a kick drum to come out of the speaker from Ardour
[15:44] <okay> so no inputs
[15:45] <okay> just getting the minimal audio out, I've been stuck for a long time
[15:45] <okay> embarassing
[15:45] <zequence> okay: Do a fresh boot. Start qjackctl. Make sure to select the correct audio device first. Then start it. And, finally, start ardour
[15:45] <okay> ok
[15:45] <zequence> By "Then start it", I mean, use the button "Start" on qjackctl to start jack
[15:46] <okay> I'm on a fresh boot other than irc and web...
[15:46] <okay> Ah I think I've gotten that far let me try again
[15:46] <zequence> okay: I say fresh boot, just to make sure there's no conflicting processes running in the background
[15:46] <okay> I thought so
[15:47] <okay> nope fresh boot, just irc and 1 web window
[15:47] <okay> how do I select correct audio device, maybe thats where I mess up
[15:47] <okay> I assume the setup, button?
[15:48] <okay> Jack says it has already started should I stop it?
[15:48] <okay> zequence? should I stop JACK? it was running when I opened the JACK Audio Connection Kit
[15:49] <zequence> okay: Then it can't have been a fresh boot :)
[15:49] <zequence> Or, did you add something to Ubuntu Studio. A PPA, perhaps?
[15:49] <okay> perhaps, let me see
[15:50] <zequence> okay: Like, KXStudio PPA?
[15:50] <okay> no
[15:50] <okay> I don't think anything, its a very clean install, but I will double check
[15:51] <zequence> okay: To make things simple, just reboot. Then, do the stuff in the right order
[15:52] <okay> ok it only takes a minute to reboot, btw the only 'ppa' would be google chrome,
[15:53] <okay> XChat will save the chat history I hope, see you in about 2 min, brb
[16:00] <okay> hi, Zequence... this time I got JACK error message log, JACK server could not be started. sorry -quote
[16:03] <okay> would alsa on mute cause that?
[16:03] <okay> I'm going to boot and try again
[16:04] <okay> leaving alsa with volume up
[16:14] <okay>  zequence, you still here?
[16:14] <zequence> okay: Yep
[16:15] <zequence> When you say ALSA, what are you referring to?
[16:15] <zequence> The desktop audio system is called pulseaudio. It uses the ALSA backend, but is its own audio server
[16:15] <zequence> Likewise, jack will use the ALSA backend by default
[16:15] <okay> oops I man pulseaudio
[16:15] <okay> meant
[16:15] <zequence> If you start jack selecting the same device pulseaudio is using, jack will grab it
[16:16] <zequence> Then, you can make pulseaudio connect to jack as if it was another jack client
[16:16] <zequence> This is, if you have jackd2 and pulseaudio-module-jack installed, which is the default
[16:17] <okay> looks like it does that automatically for my case
[16:17] <okay> input device on pulseaudio is "Jack source (PulseAudio JACK Source)
[16:18] <okay> output is... dual: Built-in Analog Stereo, and Jack sink (PulseAudio JACK Sink)
[16:18] <zequence> okay: Yes, but you need to select the output as fallback
[16:18] <zequence> okay: The green button
[16:19] <zequence> ehrm
[16:19] <okay> done
[16:19] <okay> yes, Z I hilited or clicked the green button with a white mark in it FOR Jack sink
[16:19] <zequence> Right, the green button
[16:19] <okay> which was previously the built in out
[16:20] <zequence> Yep, so now the output of all pulseaudio applications will be routed to jack
[16:20] <okay> including Ardour and I will hear sound from speakers!???
[16:20] <zequence> Well, ardour will be using jack directly
[16:20] <zequence> But, yes
[16:20] <zequence> Everything should be making a sound now
[16:21] <zequence> If you already have a PA (pulseaudio) application open, you need to restart it in order for it to use the new output
[16:21] <okay> coool, thanks man, I'll hang with you and share my joy after starting a default Ardour project
[16:22] <okay> could not reconnect to the audio/midi engine, which midi system should I select or just none?
[16:23] <zequence> okay: If jack is running, ardour will autoconnect to jack
[16:24] <zequence> Try to start a new project just in case (if you are opening an existing one)
[16:25] <okay> JACK Audio Connection Kit reads "Rolling" but I am getting midi errors, note fyi I have no midi hardware though I do sometime use software midi internally
[16:27] <okay> yep now I'm getting stuck on Ardour not creating a new project because it can not connect midi
[16:27] <zequence> okay: Try hydrogen and make some sounds with that. That's the first thing I do to test sound
[16:28] <okay> k
[16:28] <zequence> It's a drum machine/sequencer
[16:28] <zequence> Or tracker is perhaps the better word
[16:28] <Kimryd> God no it is not
[16:29] <zequence> hehe
[16:30]  * Kimryd loves Renoisd
[16:30] <Kimryd> Renoise*
[16:32] <okay> I see levels visually moving
[16:34] <okay> I gotta take a smoke break, thanks respectfully possibly catch you online again, zequence!
[19:07] <studio-user976> exit
[19:22] <studio-user358> hello everyone!
[19:22] <studio-user358> I have a bug with audacious-plugins I guess
[19:22] <studio-user358> in 16.04 two plugins are failing with: undefined symbol: XRRGetMonitors
[19:23] <studio-user358> does someone have the same problem?
[19:25] <studio-user358> shall I report it? and where?
[19:33] <sirriffsalot>  Any mixers out there who would care to give your monitors 4 min of its time and give remarks to any obvious mixing flaws for a demo track? Designed to attract some new members, so only I worked on it so far, hoping to get the real drummer on it later
[19:39] <studio-user706> hi guys, i have a prob, someone can help me?
[19:40] <studio-user358> @studio-user706: write you problem and somebody will :)
[19:43] <studio-user706> i have a problem with the ifconfig wlp3s0 down
[19:43] <studio-user706> to change my mac
[19:44] <studio-user706> but results an error
[19:44] <studio-user706> SIOCSIFFLAGS: Operation not done
[19:44] <studio-user706> anyone can help?
[20:18] <ArminiusTux> Evening - can I report UbuntuSTudio bugs on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/ ?
[20:22] <MetalMusicAddict> @ArminiusTux - Not usually against Ubuntu. Whats the bug?
[20:23] <ArminiusTux> Several - no LAN connection, no USB controller recognition and EFI GRUB install fail
[20:24] <ArminiusTux> Tried to install (and live test) with a DVD and usb (EFI and legacy modes)
[20:24] <MetalMusicAddict> Hmm... Gimmie a sec.
[20:26] <ArminiusTux> Of course ...
[20:28] <MetalMusicAddict> ArminiusTux: You havent by chance tried a vanilla Ubuntu install? If you do/have and the bug is there I would say file aginst Ubuntu.
[20:28] <ArminiusTux> No have been using studio for years just not on an EFI system ...
[20:28] <MetalMusicAddict> I would still lean that way honestly, however, without digging deeper its hard to tell.
[20:29] <MetalMusicAddict> Gotcha. Same here. Just started building boxes with EFI.
[20:30] <MetalMusicAddict> You try the live disk?
[20:31] <ArminiusTux> Yes DVD (efi and legacy boot) that fails (no usb and LAN support) about two thirds into the install with a efi grub install fail msg
[20:31] <ArminiusTux> the USB (Efig and legacy) comes up with a boot menu but soon aborts due to the usb issue
[20:32] <MetalMusicAddict> So works fully in live mode but fails to install?
[20:32] <MetalMusicAddict> Or you just did a direct install?
[20:32] <ArminiusTux> Apart from getting a LAN connection and USB device support the live system loads
[20:32] <MetalMusicAddict> Gotcha
[20:33] <ArminiusTux> A direct install is totally unusable due to no usb support (my mouse is usb, my kb ps2)
[20:34] <MetalMusicAddict> I would try vanilla live disk. See how that goes. If you see the same issue I'd file aginst Ubuntu proper.
[20:34] <MetalMusicAddict> I assume everything works on other OSs?
[20:34] <ArminiusTux> Win8.1 is fine
[20:34] <MetalMusicAddict> ie: No HW issues.
[20:34] <MetalMusicAddict> Gotcha
[20:35] <ArminiusTux> I think I'll post that bug report right away ...
[20:37] <ArminiusTux> MetalMusicAddict: Have you by any chance running Ubuntu on a PPC ?
[20:44] <MetalMusicAddict> Sorry. Never
[20:45] <ArminiusTux> All right - thx for your time.
[20:58] <sirriffsalot> Here's the tune for those curious: https://www.dropbox.com/s/g0qbnme21bhigp7/demo%20mix%2002_Selection.wav?dl=0
[21:13] <sakrecoer> ArminiusTux: i have, but it was in 2010
[21:15] <ArminiusTux> Hello sakrecoer, was it working back then and how was the performance?
[21:15] <sakrecoer> ArminiusTux: i was blown away tbh.
[21:15] <sakrecoer> it was on a powerbook g4
[21:16] <ArminiusTux> ahh ic, I was trying MATE & lubuntu on a G5, quite impressed with the performance, but I was having installation / boot issues
[21:17] <sakrecoer> don't think ardour was packaged back then, but i was able to record a few tunes anyways.
[21:19] <sakrecoer> ArminiusTux: yeah, installing it wasn't the easiest maybe, i can't really remember.
[22:50]  * UserX_ sends greetings
[23:09] <Bernd> ist das hier überhaupt deutsch?
[23:10] <fabio_> Hello
[23:11] <fabio_> I need help with jack
[23:13] <fabio_> is anybody there?
[23:14] <fabio_> distro
[23:24] <fabio_> hello