[01:14] <RAOF> pitti: Enjoy your shiny new colord 1.3.2-1. Build-against-universe means the Ubuntu delta can be dropped.
[01:14] <RAOF> (I'm *pretty* sure this is correct this time!)
[06:23] <pitti> Good morning
[06:24] <pitti> RAOF: ah great, thanks
[07:04] <willcooke> Mirv, hey!  Do you have a script which can sync between LP and Trello?
[07:15] <Mirv> willcooke: no, maybe jibel could have? although I think it's just for bileto <-> Trello. I used to have one for Kanban <-> LP :)
[07:15] <willcooke> nw, thx Mirv
[07:16] <willcooke> popey, ^
[07:22] <Laney> aptsources.distro.NoDistroTemplateException: Error: could not find a distribution template for Ubuntu/yakkety
[07:22] <Laney> WHAT SAY?????????
[07:23]  * larsu pets Laney
[07:24]  * Laney purrs
[07:24] <Laney> much better
[07:24] <larsu> :)
[07:24] <Laney> larsu: saw your latest work
[07:24] <Laney> exciting stuff :)
[07:24] <larsu> huh?
[07:24] <larsu> oh gvariant.js?
[07:24] <Laney> YEAH!
[07:24] <larsu> thanks :)
[07:25] <larsu> hacked on that on the side a bit
[07:25] <larsu> was fun
[07:25] <Laney> what do you guys want to use this for?
[07:25] <larsu> this is nothing official, just a side project
[07:25] <larsu> not planning to use it for anything yet
[07:25] <Laney> ah right
[07:25] <larsu> and it's not even close to ready to be used for anything
[07:26] <larsu> but it taught me how to mangle binary bits in javascript (and more javascript in general), how to make node modules, and how gvariant is serialized
[07:27] <larsu> Laney: I didn't think news about it would travel that fast...
[07:27] <larsu> ah, I showed desrt last night
[07:27] <Laney> correct
[07:27] <Laney> while we were in the prague beer museum
[07:28] <desrt> we did a bit of research... on a lark i said it would be fun to write a haskell one
[07:28] <larsu> oh - I hope I didn't distract you guys too much from the important stuff there
[07:28] <desrt> already exists.  also, golang, rust, java, many others
[07:28] <larsu> seriously? nice
[07:29] <desrt> some of them are just bindings, i think
[07:29] <desrt> but some are definitely native reimplementations
[07:31] <larsu> desrt: I think it would be nice if you could put the spec somewhere more visible
[07:34] <RAOF> Oooh, I might be interested in a Rust gvariant codec.
[07:34] <desrt> i think that one may have just been a binding
[07:34] <RAOF> Also, hello larsu, Laney, and desrt!
[07:34] <desrt> hi RAOF :)
[07:34] <RAOF> Ah, well. Then I get to write one (eventually!)
[07:35] <larsu> hi RAOF!
[07:35] <desrt> RAOF: let me know when you do it :)
[07:36] <larsu> do it, it's fun!
[07:36] <seb128> hey larsu RAOF otherdesktopers
[07:36] <RAOF> It'll be a fun exercise to work out how to drive the rust hypothesis-y clone.
[07:36] <desrt> seb128: that word has two 'p's in it, i think :)
[07:36] <RAOF> Hey seb128!
[07:36] <larsu> and the spec is pretty easy to follow
[07:36] <larsu> morning seb128!
[07:36] <seb128> desktoppers!
[07:36] <desrt> larsu: thanks :)
[07:36] <seb128> desrt, thanks ;-)
[07:50] <popey> qengho: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~snappers/snappy-playpen/trunk/files & https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xBHxFwBNk3HjomnxzOjrohy-E3eyjAGX8ZLvXPqOG84/edit#gid=0
[08:02] <qengho> popey: thx
[08:04] <willcooke> https://www.yahoo.com/tech/researchers-develop-nanowire-battery-lasts-001737099.html
[08:04] <willcooke> popey, ^
[08:49] <seb128> Laney, robert_ancell, attente, so, does any of you want to rebase wip/ubuntu-xenial on 3.20.2 or cherry pick some of the fixes from the stable branch? or should we just got with what we have (+ the one pending comment)
[08:52] <davmor2> willcooke: I'd of been happier with a battery that lasted 1000's of hours rather than 1000's of charges but I'll take it :)
[09:17] <flexiondotorg> Morning. I want to have an experiment with Unity8 on a laptop.
[09:18] <flexiondotorg> Maybe even try making an image for the Raspberry Pi.
[09:19] <flexiondotorg> Will installing 'unity8-desktop-session-mir' on a minimal system pull in all the required dependencies or is a Unity7 desktop required as a base?
[09:21] <seb128> unsure we tested on a minial system, try and tell us? ;-)
[09:27] <flexiondotorg> seb128, OK :-D
[09:27] <flexiondotorg> seb128, So I have Ubuntu Unity 7 fully work on the Pi 3. I thought I'd have a stab at getting Unity 8 going too.
[09:28] <seb128> robert_ancell, can you add "x-scheme-handler/apt" to the Mimetypes list in the .desktop in the apturl commit
[09:28] <seb128> flexiondotorg, that's nice, let us know how it goes
[09:28] <flexiondotorg> seb128, Will do. A project for the weekend I think.
[09:28] <robert_ancell> seb128, ack
[09:32] <seb128_> robert_ancell, thanks
[09:32] <seb128_> (if somebody asked me anything since robert's reply, please ask again, I changed wifi and lost backlog)
[09:35] <willcooke> stupid wifi
[09:35] <willcooke> flexiondotorg, I think you might have issues running Mir on Pi3 because of the requirements on the video driver
[09:35] <willcooke> not sure though
[09:35] <seb128> indeed!
[09:35] <seb128> robert_ancell, attente, do you have any idea if https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-software/+bug/1555567 is still an issue?
[09:36] <flexiondotorg> willcooke, Yes I anticipate a rocky road.
[09:36] <davmor2> willcooke: stupid developers going to a sprint with more than one device and eating all the bandwidth ;)
[09:36] <flexiondotorg> But I have the experimental VC4 driver working in Unity7 and prepared to get my hands dirty.
[09:37] <robert_ancell> seb128, check with attente but I don't think we are getting / using this yet?
[09:37] <seb128> robert_ancell, right, the question was to know if we are blocked/need to nag the store team about it
[09:37] <seb128> it's suboptimal to have all those flagged as nonfree
[09:37] <robert_ancell> yep
[09:38] <attente> the bug sounds like it's our problem
[09:38] <attente> i'll look into it
[09:38] <seb128> thanks
[09:38] <attente> if snapd is giving it to us, then i guess we're not setting it properly somewhere
[09:38] <seb128> well, dunno
[09:38] <seb128> how does one query details with snapd?
[09:39] <seb128> I just asked on their channel
[09:39] <seb128> the snap command line doesn't seem to have a show command
[09:39] <seb128> or info or whatever
[09:50] <willcooke> seb128, as discussed:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-center/+bug/1575086
[09:50] <seb128> willcooke, thanks
[09:50] <seb128> tiheum, ^ hey, do you think you could help there?
[10:22] <seb128> attente, robert_ancell, is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-software/+bug/1561285 something that is fixed in the SRU?
[10:22] <seb128> it's fix commited
[10:22] <seb128> but I don't see what commit corresponds
[10:23] <attente> seb128: it should be fixed in the current branch
[10:23] <attente> seb128: did it not work for you when you tried it?
[10:23] <seb128> attente, but not in the xenial version?
[10:23] <attente> seb128: not in the xenial version
[10:23] <attente> seb128: but committed to the branch
[10:23] <seb128> k, I was just checking
[10:23] <attente> seb128: i'll try and find it
[10:23] <seb128> thanks
[10:24] <seb128> well just wondering if the bug needs to be made SRU compliant
[10:24] <seb128> I guess not since snaps support is not enabled atm
[10:24] <seb128> so it's not a bug that we fix
[10:24] <seb128> it's just part of the new feature
[10:25] <attente> seb128: it's this one ac3a1c439fb79c2ae2070b35cb6ba1d9b676a1b4
[10:25] <seb128> attente, thanks
[10:26] <attente> seb128: you tested the branch and didn't get any 500 errors, right?
[10:26] <tiheum> seb128, hi, we could do something. I will speak with John and Marcus about it and will comment the bug accordingly
[10:26] <seb128> correct
[10:26] <seb128> tiheum, thanks
[10:26] <attente> seb128: i seem to be still getting them :/
[10:26] <seb128> :-(
[10:26] <seb128> talk to the snappy team seeing what debug info they might want to want?
[10:27] <seb128> attente, that commit is already in xenial
[10:28] <attente> seb128: but the plugin was disabled for the one currently in archive
[10:28] <seb128> right
[10:29] <attente> oh. you think we should've marked it as fix released even though no one can verify it
[10:29] <seb128> no, it's fine
[10:29] <seb128> I'm just going to skip it from the bugs referenced in the SRU changelog
[10:29] <seb128> because there is no way to test the buggy behaviour
[10:30] <seb128> out of rebuild an old version to enable snap to see it's broken
[10:30] <seb128> like it's just part of "enable snaps support"
[10:37] <seb128> Laney, attente, 1559185 1559284 1564621 1571414 1573408 1575104
[10:37] <seb128> should be the SRU bugslist
[10:37] <seb128> Laney, bug #1575104 is the one you wanted
[11:18]  * Laney screms at aptly
[11:54] <seb128> chattyman, howdy
[11:54] <popey> hello chattyman
[11:54] <chattyman> Hi all
[11:57] <popey> chattyman: still there?
[11:57] <chattyman> popey, i sure am
[12:00] <Laney> alan carr?
[12:01] <Trevinho> seb128: it doesn't solve my issue, but if you want it, it's still cleaner: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16062267/
[12:02] <seb128> Trevinho, k, can you do a mp against the packaging vcs?
[12:03] <Trevinho> seb128: ooook...
[12:03] <seb128> ttthhhhhhanks ;-)
[12:11] <Trevinho> seb128: https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/nautilus/menubar-visibility-signals/+merge/292925
[12:12] <seb128> Trevinho, thanks
[12:13] <muktupavels_> Trevinho, do you have time to look at compiz bug and releated branch? https://bugs.launchpad.net/compiz/+bug/1574866
[12:19] <Trevinho> muktupavels_: yeah, me and andyrock were already checking that
[12:20] <Trevinho> muktupavels_: from a first look, please don't break the API, add a new method instead
[12:20] <Trevinho> methods
[12:26] <xnox> awwww seb128 might get the wooden spoon =(
[12:27] <muktupavels_> Trevinho: how should I name new methods? incrementOpaqueDesktopWindowCount?
[12:28] <Trevinho> yeah
[12:28] <muktupavels_> Trevinho: but is it right way to fix that? Maybe there is better way?
[12:28] <Trevinho> muktupavels_: I've not been checking the thing internally yet... andyrock is on it though
[12:28] <Trevinho> muktupavels_: so provide him the proper scenario too
[12:31] <seb128> xnox, less work for me, woooo
[12:36] <Laney> brutal
[12:36] <Laney> I was excited
[12:37] <seb128> they so changed the rules so no desktop people would be in their club
[12:38] <seb128> that's a parody of democrary
[12:38]  * seb128 rage quits non desktop channels :p
[12:41] <Laney> let's protest the next meeting
[12:42]  * larsu wonders what we protest about
[12:42] <seb128> larsu, TB elections
[12:43] <seb128> larsu, http://civs.cs.cornell.edu/cgi-bin/results.pl?id=E_0b63afb3ebd5c7ca
[12:43] <seb128> but TB decided midelection to change to 5 members instead of 6
[12:43] <Laney> so seb128 is listed as being elected
[12:43] <Laney> but actually they are only taking the ones above him
[12:43] <Laney> :(((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((
[12:43] <Laney> ))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))):
[12:44] <Laney> :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :(
[12:44] <larsu> 😢
[12:44] <larsu> poor seb128
[12:44] <andyrock> muktupavels_: please take a look to the review
[12:45] <muktupavels_> andyrock: I already force pushed...
[12:50] <andyrock> muktupavels_: i'm on it
[12:52] <mdeslaur> seb128: :(
[12:52] <seb128> mdeslaur, congrats! :-)
[12:53] <mdeslaur> thanks
[13:00] <Trevinho> andyrock: https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/compiz/scale-selection-keyboard+mouse-fix/+merge/292938
[13:04] <Trevinho> Mh, we should support embedding gifs, really https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/compiz/scale-selection-keyboard+mouse-fix/+merge/292938/comments/751157
[13:05] <seb128> lol
[13:52] <Laney> I just found a weird thing
[13:52] <Laney> http://people.canonical.com/~laney/weird-things/pitti.png
[13:52] <pitti> seb128: darn, so the millions spent on your TB campaign were spent in vain? :-(
[13:53] <pitti> Laney: qu'est-ce que c'est ?
[13:53] <pitti> Laney: oh, autopkgtest spam?
[13:53] <seb128> pitti, yeah, some of my supported are talking about riots now!
[13:53] <Laney> pitti: no, see that image
[13:53] <Laney> it's indicator-pitti!
[13:53] <pitti> wrt. http://civs.cs.cornell.edu/cgi-bin/results.pl?id=E_0b63afb3ebd5c7ca, I think only the top 5 win
[13:54] <pitti> Laney: oh, nice! Is that the number of times that I've sighed today?
[13:54] <Laney> apparently it's the countdown to your next birthday
[13:54] <pitti> (towards clouds, arm64 kernels, libreoffice making s390x explode, etx)
[13:54] <Laney> https://code.launchpad.net/indicator-pitti
[13:55] <pitti> o_O
[13:55] <Laney> same face I made
[14:19] <qengho> willcooke: title is misleading. https://bugs.launchpad.net/snappy/+bug/1574526
[14:19] <willcooke> thx qengho
[14:28] <seb128> mvo, hey
[14:29] <seb128> mvo, easy question for you about ... https://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-software/tree/src/plugins/gs-plugin-apt.cc?h=wip/ubuntu-xenial#n353
[14:30] <seb128> mvo, that loop has a break in it, what's the point of the loop if you exit on first iteration? I guess either it shouldn't be a loop or the break should be there?
[14:33] <mvo> seb128: in a meeting right now, but I can have a look
[14:33] <seb128> mvo, thanks, L_aney says you nicely gave us that code ;-)
[14:34] <seb128> just wondering if you can make sense of the issue
[14:34] <mvo> seb128: sure, after the meeting (in some minutes)
[14:34] <Laney> I don't think it causes a problem in practice
[14:35] <seb128> mvo, thanks
[14:35] <seb128> doesn't seem to
[14:35] <seb128> unsure what next loop iteration would do though
[14:41] <mvo> seb128: we only need the first one, but we need to check the VF.IsGood() condition, so the loop will go find the first of these and then break. could be written differently of course, feel free to change if you want
[14:43] <seb128> mvo, if it's false you exit directly since VF.IsGood() is false, so don't go to find the first good one?
[14:47] <mvo> seb128: hm, let me look in detail
[14:53] <mvo> seb128: just found my code and yes, this is a bit silly, I can rewrite it if needed. that was written in a bit of a rush. is it actually causing problems? or just a weird style?
[14:54] <seb128> mvo, just weird style/didn't understand it, I crossed it while debugging another issue in the same function and was wondering about it
[14:55] <seb128> mvo, unsure if it could create issues, e.g if there are cases where the first entry is not good and where it should iterate rather than exiting
[14:57] <mvo> seb128: yeah, I will update the example I think
[14:57] <mvo> seb128: and send something out
[14:57] <seb128> mvo, thanks for taking the time to have a look!
[15:11] <mvo> seb128: https://github.com/mvo5/apt-api-example/blob/master/miniapt.cc#L18 should be better when I have a moment I will expand it a little bit (re-add the IsGood for example)
[15:12] <seb128> mvo, thanks
[15:12] <seb128> Laney, ^ just for info
[15:25] <TheMuso> desrt: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/espeak-general <- the espeak list where you can ask about the language stuff for espeak if you are so enclined.
[15:37]  * Laney hugs mvo 
[15:37] <Laney> you beauty
[15:37] <seb128> :-)
[15:38]  * mvo hugs Laney and seb128 - nothing like a proper team hug!
[15:39]  * seb128 hugs mvo and Laney :-)
[15:39] <seb128> indeed!
[15:41] <ogra_> huggers