[04:44] good morning [05:22] morning everybody [05:26] hi Kilos [05:27] hi magespawn [05:40] Good morning all [05:40] hi anton_may [05:43] hi thatgraemeguy inetpro [05:43] morning [06:14] Mornings [06:14] Oom Kilos , magespawn , I have feedback [06:15] morning guys [06:15] Mornings theblazehen [06:16] You doing lright now mazal? [06:16] okish thanx [06:16] Glad you're a bit better :) [06:17] Have oom Kilos been here yet today ? [06:20] maaz tell inetpro " You were right about the hidden network icon. Fiddling with theme settings fixed it. Thanx " [06:20] mazal: Okay, I'll tell inetpro on freenode [06:24] morning mazal magespawn anton_may theblazehen thatgraemeguy Kilos and others [06:24] Hi chesedo [06:24] hi chesedo, andrewlsd [06:24] mazal: he was here earlier [06:24] Hi theblazehen :- J [06:24] hi andrewlsd [06:25] quicksynergy ftw. [06:26] im here guys morning to you all [06:26] dont forget meeting tonight [06:26] morning Kilos [06:26] Won't forget [06:27] hi theblazehen andrewlsd chesedo mazal [06:33] hi Kilos [06:34] Oom Kilos , magespawn ---> https://bin.snyman.info/mmmvpxkc [06:34] Morning chesedo , andrewlsd [06:35] oh is that systemback mazal ? [06:36] Yes oom [06:36] cool [06:37] Did the new install on my work pc this morning from my custom iso I made at home [06:37] ty for that [06:37] imo it's better that remastersys was [06:37] wow [06:37] Much more user friendly and the option to transfer user settings is awesome [06:38] It even has it's own built-in app to take the iso to usb which is a nice bonus [06:38] yeah [06:38] great [06:38] And if you want to install ons some else's pc the user settings option can be disabled upon install and you have a new defualt user [06:38] on* [06:39] This will be my go-to app now for custom iso [06:39] nice [06:39] I will just never give the iso unsupervised to someone else [06:39] nice to know [06:40] thanks mazal [06:40] The only install option that isn't there upon install that standard Ubuntu install had is the option to encrypt home folder. But I never use that anyway [06:40] nor do i [06:40] mazal: do you need to get systemback from a PPA? [06:41] Yes andrewlsd [06:41] I usually set up encrypted "Private" folder. [06:41] hey mazal, that is good that it worked out [06:41] hi magespawn , yeah worked great. No double doing everything on a 2nd pc [06:42] Just pitty that I installed graphics drivers before I made the iso. That made me struggle a little [06:42] I know it mustn't be done , but ya , blonde moment [06:43] Thank goodness vir ctrl+alt+f2 and tty2 lol [06:45] Morning MaNI [06:51] were the graphics drivers the only problem/ [06:51] ? [06:53] yep [06:54] I must add though , I just did the 2 install options and checked all settings and stuff. Haven't heavily worked on it yet. I am back home waiting for the plumbers to install my geyser. Will start to heavily use it when back at work later [06:55] cool beans, just read the note [06:55] Just quickly opened email and some apps to check if everything is there , then ran out of time and had to come home [06:55] time is always a problem [06:56] When installing to same pc or pc with same graphics card then the craphics drivers shouldn't be a problem though [06:56] i would like to see things like wireless card drivers, and more complicated setups like raid etc [06:57] I never install proprierty anyway , but on home pc I had to cos of gaming :P Sorry oom Kilos , moenie raas nie [06:57] but looks like a good system so far [06:57] lol [06:57] yes seems ideal now remastersys is gone [06:57] magespawn, yeah , that would be interesting [06:58] Anybody with raid and wi-fo brave enough lol [06:58] wi-fi* [06:59] Kilos, and it's still new really , and actively developed and maintained. So might even improve more along the way [06:59] yeah [07:00] on a side note i am getting 15.51 km per litre [07:00] wow [07:00] thats good magespawn [07:00] What car is that ? [07:01] 10 year old 1300 Ford Bantam [07:01] mazal: you could do a setup inside a virtual machine with two virtual disks to test the "raid" stuff. [07:01] Sjoe , my old girl is only around 10km / litre [07:02] mazal: can systemback export its config as a text file, so that you can share the text file without having to have all the binary stuff [07:02] andrewlsd: also you could do a virtual setup for a distribution .iso [07:02] ... ^ would be a great way of then running systemback and pointing it at a text file which would configure the end iso [07:02] andrewlsd, not that I know of [07:03] hi paddatrapper [07:03] welcome to ubuntu-za [07:03] Now that's an interesting name , hi paddatrapper [07:04] haha [07:04] Hey Kilos. Thanks [07:04] Welcome :) [07:04] mazal: always used to wear big shoes [07:04] ah [07:05] Reminds me of an ex of mine that called het pointy shows kokkerot trapper [07:05] And it's a nick that is almost never taken on any online platform :) [07:05] shoes* [07:06] Haha yeah sounds like it! [07:06] sigh , one of these days I will learn to spell [07:06] When I asked het why she said cos the sharp points get's into corners easily lol [07:06] her* [07:07] paddatrapper how did you find us [07:07] Hi paddatrapper [07:07] we have a meeting here tonight at 8.30pm [07:07] everyone welcome [07:08] mazal: new name for Chelsea Boots --> Kokkerot Trappers [07:08] Kilos: reddit. Saw a comment in /r/SouthAfrica mentioning here [07:08] cool [07:08] cool, never thought to look there. [07:08] Kilos: suggest you add that to the list of places to send "announcements" [07:08] advertise us there [07:08] haha andrewlsd add it [07:08] https://reddit.com/r/southafrica/comments/4gh9ju/how_to_start_free_program_to_help_underprivileged/ [07:09] reddit too wild for me [07:09] paddatrapper, just be careful of maaz , he is very unique personality :) [07:10] mazal: I'll keep that in mind [07:10] paddatrapper kmf is doing ubuntuforlove [07:10] hopefully he gives feedback tonight [07:10] maaz say hi to paddatrapper [07:10] hi to paddatrapper [07:10] kfm, hmm good oke! [07:10] lol [07:10] meh. my turn to typo. "kmf, good oke!" [07:11] kfm is a ZA (Cape) radio station [07:11] :-/ [07:11] Kilos: (wasn't my post), sounds good. Would like to get involved in something related to grassroots programming/linux [07:11] lol [07:11] mazal: hey [07:11] andrewlsd, just think how much fun cli is for me with my bad spelling [07:11] paddatrapper: did you post that? [07:11] Maaz: my typo [07:11] paddatrapper: Huh? [07:12] andrewlsd: no, but thought it looked interesting [07:12] maaz don't be cheeky [07:12] mazal: Huh? [07:12] mazal: yuor sellnipg si nto a porlbem [07:12] Maaz: the hey was for you, not mazal [07:12] paddatrapper: One learns a new thing every day [07:12] hahahaha [07:13] Maaz coffee on [07:13] * Maaz starts grinding coffee [07:13] mebbe I should sign up for `reddit`. Is there a Reddit-IRC bridge [07:13] Maaz: coffee please [07:13] andrewlsd: Yessir [07:13] maaz coffee please [07:13] mazal: Okay [07:13] maaz huge [07:13] mazal: What? [07:13] maaz big [07:13] mazal: What? [07:13] maaz bigger [07:13] mazal: Sorry... [07:14] large [07:14] oi [07:14] maaz large [07:14] In a beer mug just for you mazal [07:14] dankie tog [07:14] Maaz tell zeorin i will be in jhb soon, maybe that coderdojo can get off the ground [07:14] magespawn: Okay, I'll tell zeorin on freenode [07:15] paddatrapper tell us a bit about yourself [07:15] andrewlsd: not sure how you'd link the two - different goals (link aggregation vs conversation), but you could link to an online IRC client or something [07:16] ty, good perspective paddatrapper [07:16] and if you are getting involved go to https://ubuntu-za.org and join us on launchpad and out mailing list [07:16] I'm born and bred Cape Townian, currently studying Computer Science and Engineering. Usually I run Arch, but needing to get used to Ubuntu because I want to do some porting of Ubuntu Touch [07:16] andrewlsd: Well, reddit is more compared to a forum than to irc [07:17] Coffee's ready for Kilos, andrewlsd and mazal! [07:17] many of our guys are in CT [07:17] maaz dankie [07:17] Groot plesier mazal my vriend [07:17] Maaz dankie man [07:17] Groot plesier my vriend [07:17] Maaz bosnack [07:17] magespawn: Excuse me? [07:17] Maaz botnack [07:17] magespawn: Excuse me? [07:17] Maaz botsnack [07:17] YAY someone cares about me too! [07:18] maaz botsnack [07:18] YAY someone cares about me too! [07:18] You *could* write a client in python, have it connect to irc to that [07:18] three tries on that one [07:18] paddatrapper: I'm CT too. [07:18] Maaz: coffee on [07:18] * Maaz starts grinding coffee [07:18] paddatrapper: Q: "How do you know if someone is running Arch" [07:18] A: "They tell you" :-P [07:19] I have been AnArchist too [07:19] andrewlsd: for sure! How else are we supposed to go about it? :) [07:19] saw a lovely collection of Arch wallpapers. With stuff like "if it ain't broke, it ain't fun" [07:20] "yaour[t] turn" [07:20] i go sort sheep [07:20] wbb [07:20] Maaz watch them [07:20] oh Kilos I will watch them no problem, but you better be back soon! [07:21] If I open my laptop and someone doesn't ask what distro I'm running, I get twitchy [07:22] Coffee's ready for theblazehen! [07:23] Hi guys, hard-core Linux concept? http://mybroadband.co.za/news/wireless/162466-secret-south-african-network-connects-users-for-free-with-no-speed-limit-and-no-cap.html [07:23] Langjan: By the way, Kilos on freenode told me "tell Langjan ^^ beteken kyk bo" 1 day, 15 hours, 22 minutes and 58 seconds ago [07:24] Môre oom Langjan [07:24] Langjan: Check out hyperboria / CJDNS [07:26] Goeiemore mazal [07:27] There's also one in Cape Town: CTWUG [07:28] Interesting [07:30] hi Kilos [07:31] hi paddatrapper and thanks for the link (as well as welcome) [07:32] hopefully the OP will join us tonight [07:32] chesedo: thanks, anytime [07:33] Kilos, seems Maaz has forgotten the message you left... [07:38] paddatrapper: i believe there is also one in durban and richards bay [07:38] hi Langjan [07:38] i do not think they are as organised as ptawug though [07:39] Alles reg Kilos ? [07:40] ja dankie en daar? [07:40] Wat het ek gebreek? [07:40] Goed dankie [07:40] hahahaha [07:40] Just checking in, moet gaan eet, gesels later [07:41] enjoy [07:41] i go fetch sheep [07:41] didnt get there yet [08:13] Hi Kilos [08:29] hi Langjan [08:32] Hi Kilos is die skape nou opgepas? [08:33] hulle hier nou ja [08:33] Wanneer braai ons tjoppies? [08:33] Of op die spit... [08:34] dan genoeg vir almal op irc, lekker... [08:34] lol [08:34] lmga [08:34] so nou [08:34] wat het jy gebreek [08:34] Ok ek moet gaan inkopies doen, sien jou later wanneer iets anders breek [08:35] mooi ry [08:35] dankie, mooi bly en laat weet van die braaidag [08:36] ok [10:32] hi pavlushka [10:45] anybody got a box/pc/server outside the republic? [10:52] anton_may, yup [10:52] why? [10:52] kewl can you telnet to an ip for me? [10:52] and see if you connect? [10:53] I guess... the IP in SA? [10:53] yip [10:53] will pm [10:53] kk [10:56] theblazehen: Hi , how are you? [10:57] good and you pavlushka? [10:57] theblazehen: I am okay, thank you, :) [10:59] feeling a little sleepy, see ya, :) [11:00] Cheers [11:33] on the road time, chat later === chesedo- is now known as chesedo [13:18] inetpro how does the weather look to you? [13:25] Ai , oom Kilos , seems I have the same problem on 16.04 that I had on 14.04. Automatic updates not working. [13:25] Notifier said nothing this week , so ran it manually in cli and there are updates. [13:26] And the updater is set to check daily [13:40] * nlsthzn is not sure how the updater works... perhaps it only auto triggers when there is a security update? I can't remember when last I saw the updater to be honest mazal ... oh and hi [13:46] hmm... [13:46] big storm brewing [13:46] power could go at anytime [13:47] Ish I need 10 more minutes [13:48] inetpro go home now [13:48] quick [13:48] hi Wolfeyes [13:49] chesedo you got your stuff sorted?? [13:49] Looking rough here also , gonna start shutting down [13:49] Bye for now [13:53] hey Kilos [14:57] Kilos: nope, had to fetch my bro from school... [14:58] * chesedo thinks he might be in the same state as pro this evening [14:59] oh my [15:02] ill be back just now, wanna change drives [15:03] chesedo G+ needs to be notified about tonights meeting [15:03] Kilos: done last night [15:03] why didnt it alert me [15:03] ai! [15:04] ill just tweet as well [15:08] Kilos: sorry am having an is... brrr [15:08] Maaz: tell Kilos "sorry am having an issue with trying to figure out who all should be notified" [15:08] chesedo: Righto, I'll tell Kilos on freenode [15:14] * Kilos came again back [15:15] chesedo ill try find the ubuntuza twit place [15:15] forgot password [15:17] i forgot what i used for iy [15:17] it [15:17] ai! [15:18] inetpro ping [15:19] glad to see you still here paddatrapper [15:19] and Wolfeyes [15:22] chesedo whats happening with inetpro ? [15:23] Kilos: have no idea... maybe he got caught in the rain [15:24] lol ok [15:24] inetpro please tweet meeting info on ubuntu-za [15:33] chesedo do you tweet? [15:33] nope Kilos, I only bark :P [15:34] hahaha [15:34] ... i do tweet but do not have access to za's account [15:34] ... well tweet sometimes (think like about 10 in total) [15:34] i was trying to tweet to it [15:34] can one do that [15:35] no, you will have to tweet from it [15:35] eish [15:35] stupid browser goes directly to mine so will need another browser to get there [15:36] ai! [15:36] or log out... or start a private session [15:40] hi kmf [15:40] hi chesedo [15:40] excited about tomorrow? [15:42] yep ... just runnning around now :D [15:42] at the moment ... I'm the only person going :) [15:43] in this weather :P [15:43] and my family talk later :D [15:43] sure [15:43] * chesedo will be there... just have to leave just before 12 [15:50] ai! [15:57] hi gremble [15:58] hey Kilos [15:58] How are you? [15:58] good ty and you? [15:59] you here for tonights meeting [15:59] Only by accident. [15:59] 2 1/2 hours time [15:59] grrrr [15:59] I am missing my fencing class [15:59] because I don't want to drive in the rain [15:59] lol [15:59] good ill arrange rain on meeting nights [15:59] Did you just growl at me? haha [16:00] lol yeah [16:00] because you only here by accident [16:00] you have been neglecting us [16:03] I read the list and I replied once. :< I haven't really had the time to be here that much [16:04] younare forgiven [16:06] * chesedo now sees why Kilos has a hard time tweeting... it is far from growling :P [16:07] lol [16:07] sien ons oom more by Ubuntu 4 Hope? [16:08] nee seun ek hang tuis uit [16:08] ok [16:12] they working hard on xenial bugs [16:14] * chesedo still has to upgrade [16:15] better to wait [16:17] na, just have to find some time for a clean install [16:19] Can you do an update to xenial without reinstalling? [16:20] from 14.04 yes [16:20] or from 15.10 [16:21] Seems I am running 15.10 atm [16:22] I am so used to arch/debian. Ubuntu has some odd niggles, like uname is lsb_release [16:25] Kilos: of course. I'm quite enjoying this channel! [16:26] gremble: that explains why I get nothing from uname (been too lazy to Google) [16:27] I don't understand how you can be too lazy to google. :P I've seen people use google to find the date. It has literally become our interface to any kind of knowlege [16:27] knowledge [16:29] gremble: it was simply a passing curiosity at the end of an ssh session. My Internet history is full of DuckDuckGo queries for pretty much anything [16:31] paddatrapper, Ah. [16:32] My Linux education was Internet, only now years down the line, am I starting to use man pages more [16:33] * Kilos hates man pages [16:33] my man pages are called inetpro [16:33] gremble: what do you mean "get nothing from uname"? mine has output [16:33] Im not old enough to read the man pages yet [16:34] and im too old [16:34] lol, man pages can be fun once one uses the search [16:35] They are useful for when I'm on a very poor Internet connection [16:36] Welp. chesedo just caught me out being an imbecile. I was in the wrong interpreter to run uname [16:36] that too [16:36] haha [16:37] Haha. Thought you meant no useful output [16:37] It gives me my kernel info. Which is nice [16:37] what would you use uname for [16:38] gremble@MostlyHarmless:~/haskell$ uname -a [16:38] Linux MostlyHarmless 4.2.0-35-generic #40-Ubuntu SMP Tue Mar 15 22:15:45 UTC 2016 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux [16:38] what will you do with kernel info [16:38] Know which kernel I have [16:38] Kilos: to read the distro's /etc/lsb_* file mainly [16:39] or atleast i think so :D... [16:39] Linux T410 3.13.0-85-generic #129-Ubuntu SMP Thu Mar 17 20:50:15 UTC 2016 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux [16:39] nope, am wrong [16:39] what can all that mean [16:39] uname - print system information [16:39] that is what it does [16:40] Very useful too when troubleshooting stuff [16:40] lshw and lspci show me useful info [16:40] Kilos: for gremble it means that his clock is two hours ahead... [16:40] i dont troubleshoot i use kde [16:40] hehe [16:40] >.< [16:40] hi nlsthzn [16:41] o/ [16:41] nlsthzn: o/ [16:41] \o [16:41] It reads UTC time chesedo Not my time [16:41] My time is fine [16:41] * nlsthzn is the strong silent type [16:41] lol [16:42] gremble: "22:15:45 UTC" - it is currently 20:15:45 UTC [16:42] like Kilos' [16:42] Interesting - on Android it simply returns "Linux" [16:42] maybe that is when the kernel was compiled... [16:42] Tue Mar 15 22:15:45 UTC It is not the 15th of March either :P That is my kernel compile date [16:43] and it is def not 20:xx UTC anyway :p [16:43] paddatrapper: you are missing parameter flags - like 'uname -a' [16:44] lol, yeah... i seem to have added instead of subtracting [16:44] * chesedo wbb [16:44] Good point [16:44] I've been factoring primes by hand all day. I am guilty of that too :P [16:45] Linux localhost 3.0.64-CM-gfb6555f #1 SMP PREEMPT Sun Apr 10 12:16:06 PDT 2016 armv7l GNU/Linux [16:45] Linux vector-sigma 4.4.0-21-generic #37-Ubuntu SMP Mon Apr 18 18:33:37 UTC 2016 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux [16:45] nice and fresh(ish) [16:46] Running 16.04? [16:46]