[04:44] <magespawn> good morning
[05:22] <Kilos> morning everybody
[05:26] <magespawn> hi Kilos 
[05:27] <Kilos> hi magespawn 
[05:40] <anton_may> Good morning all
[05:40] <Kilos> hi anton_may 
[05:43] <Kilos> hi thatgraemeguy inetpro 
[05:43] <thatgraemeguy> morning
[06:14] <mazal> Mornings
[06:14] <mazal> Oom Kilos , magespawn , I have feedback
[06:15] <theblazehen> morning guys
[06:15] <mazal> Mornings theblazehen
[06:16] <theblazehen> You doing lright now mazal?
[06:16] <mazal> okish thanx
[06:16] <theblazehen> Glad you're a bit better :)
[06:17] <mazal> Have oom Kilos been here yet today ?
[06:20] <mazal> maaz tell inetpro " You were right about the hidden network icon. Fiddling with theme settings fixed it. Thanx "
[06:20] <Maaz> mazal: Okay, I'll tell inetpro on freenode
[06:24] <chesedo> morning mazal magespawn anton_may theblazehen thatgraemeguy Kilos and others
[06:24] <andrewlsd> Hi chesedo 
[06:24] <theblazehen> hi chesedo, andrewlsd
[06:24] <chesedo> mazal: he was here earlier
[06:24] <andrewlsd> Hi theblazehen :- J
[06:24] <chesedo> hi andrewlsd
[06:25] <andrewlsd> quicksynergy ftw.
[06:26] <Kilos> im here guys morning to you all
[06:26] <Kilos> dont forget meeting tonight
[06:26] <theblazehen> morning Kilos
[06:26] <theblazehen> Won't forget
[06:27] <Kilos> hi theblazehen andrewlsd chesedo mazal 
[06:33] <andrewlsd> hi Kilos 
[06:34] <mazal> Oom Kilos , magespawn ---> https://bin.snyman.info/mmmvpxkc
[06:34] <mazal> Morning chesedo , andrewlsd
[06:35] <Kilos> oh is that systemback mazal ?
[06:36] <mazal> Yes oom
[06:36] <Kilos> cool
[06:37] <mazal> Did the new install on my work pc this morning from my custom iso I made at home
[06:37] <Kilos> ty for that
[06:37] <mazal> imo it's better that remastersys was
[06:37] <Kilos> wow
[06:37] <mazal> Much more user friendly and the option to transfer user settings is awesome
[06:38] <mazal> It even has it's own built-in app to take the iso to usb which is a nice bonus
[06:38] <Kilos> yeah
[06:38] <Kilos> great
[06:38] <mazal> And if you want to install ons some else's pc the user settings option can be disabled upon install and you have a new defualt user
[06:38] <mazal> on*
[06:39] <mazal> This will be my go-to app now for custom iso
[06:39] <Kilos> nice
[06:39] <mazal> I will just never give the iso unsupervised to someone else
[06:39] <Kilos> nice to know
[06:40] <andrewlsd> thanks mazal 
[06:40] <mazal> The only install option that isn't there upon install that standard Ubuntu install had is the option to encrypt home folder. But I never use that anyway
[06:40] <Kilos> nor do i
[06:40] <andrewlsd> mazal: do you need to get systemback from a PPA?
[06:41] <mazal> Yes andrewlsd
[06:41] <andrewlsd> I usually set up encrypted "Private" folder.
[06:41] <magespawn> hey mazal, that is good that it worked out
[06:41] <mazal> hi magespawn , yeah worked great. No double doing everything on a 2nd pc
[06:42] <mazal> Just pitty that I installed graphics drivers before I made the iso. That made me struggle a little
[06:42] <mazal> I know it mustn't be done , but ya , blonde moment
[06:43] <mazal> Thank goodness vir ctrl+alt+f2 and tty2 lol
[06:45] <mazal> Morning MaNI
[06:51] <magespawn> were the graphics drivers the only problem/
[06:51] <magespawn> ?
[06:53] <mazal> yep
[06:54] <mazal> I must add though , I just did the 2 install options and checked all settings and stuff. Haven't heavily worked on it yet. I am back home waiting for the plumbers to install my geyser. Will start to heavily use it when back at work later
[06:55] <magespawn> cool beans, just read the note
[06:55] <mazal> Just quickly opened email and some apps to check if everything is there , then ran out of time and had to come home
[06:55] <magespawn> time is always a problem
[06:56] <mazal> When installing to same pc or pc with same graphics card then the craphics drivers shouldn't be a problem though
[06:56] <magespawn> i would like to see things like wireless card drivers, and more complicated setups like raid etc
[06:57] <mazal> I never install proprierty anyway , but on home pc I had to cos of gaming :P Sorry oom Kilos , moenie raas nie
[06:57] <magespawn> but looks like a good system so far
[06:57] <Kilos> lol
[06:57] <Kilos> yes seems ideal now remastersys is gone
[06:57] <mazal> magespawn, yeah , that would be interesting
[06:58] <mazal> Anybody with raid and wi-fo brave enough lol
[06:58] <mazal> wi-fi*
[06:59] <mazal> Kilos, and it's still new really , and actively developed and maintained. So might even improve more along the way
[06:59] <Kilos> yeah
[07:00] <magespawn> on a side note i am getting 15.51 km per litre
[07:00] <mazal> wow
[07:00] <Kilos> thats good magespawn 
[07:00] <mazal> What car is that ?
[07:01] <magespawn> 10 year old 1300 Ford Bantam
[07:01] <andrewlsd> mazal: you could do a setup inside a virtual machine with two virtual disks to test the "raid" stuff.
[07:01] <mazal> Sjoe , my old girl is only around 10km / litre
[07:02] <andrewlsd> mazal: can systemback export its config as a text file, so that you can share the text file without having to have all the binary stuff
[07:02] <magespawn> andrewlsd: also you could do a virtual setup for a distribution .iso 
[07:02] <andrewlsd> ... ^ would be a great way of then running systemback and pointing it at a text file which would configure the end iso
[07:02] <mazal> andrewlsd, not that I know of
[07:03] <Kilos> hi paddatrapper 
[07:03] <Kilos> welcome to ubuntu-za
[07:03] <mazal> Now that's an interesting name , hi paddatrapper
[07:04] <Kilos> haha
[07:04] <paddatrapper> Hey Kilos. Thanks
[07:04] <mazal> Welcome :)
[07:04] <paddatrapper> mazal: always used to wear big shoes
[07:04] <mazal> ah
[07:05] <mazal> Reminds me of an ex of mine that called het pointy shows kokkerot trapper
[07:05] <paddatrapper> And it's a nick that is almost never taken on any online platform :)
[07:05] <mazal> shoes*
[07:06] <paddatrapper> Haha yeah sounds like it!
[07:06] <mazal> sigh , one of these days I will learn to spell
[07:06] <mazal> When I asked het why she said cos the sharp points get's into corners easily lol
[07:06] <mazal> her*
[07:07] <Kilos> paddatrapper how did you find us
[07:07] <andrewlsd> Hi paddatrapper 
[07:07] <Kilos> we have a meeting here tonight at 8.30pm
[07:07] <Kilos> everyone welcome
[07:08] <andrewlsd> mazal: new name for Chelsea Boots --> Kokkerot Trappers
[07:08] <paddatrapper> Kilos: reddit. Saw a comment in /r/SouthAfrica mentioning here
[07:08] <Kilos> cool
[07:08] <andrewlsd> cool, never thought to look there.
[07:08] <andrewlsd> Kilos: suggest you add that to the list of places to send "announcements" 
[07:08] <Kilos> advertise us there
[07:08] <Kilos> haha andrewlsd add it
[07:08] <paddatrapper> https://reddit.com/r/southafrica/comments/4gh9ju/how_to_start_free_program_to_help_underprivileged/
[07:09] <Kilos> reddit too wild for me
[07:09] <mazal> paddatrapper, just be careful of maaz , he is very unique personality :)
[07:10] <paddatrapper> mazal: I'll keep that in mind
[07:10] <Kilos> paddatrapper kmf is doing ubuntuforlove
[07:10] <Kilos> hopefully he gives feedback tonight
[07:10] <mazal> maaz say hi to paddatrapper
[07:10] <Maaz> hi to paddatrapper
[07:10] <andrewlsd> kfm, hmm good oke!
[07:10] <mazal> lol
[07:10] <andrewlsd> meh. my turn to typo. "kmf, good oke!"
[07:11] <andrewlsd> kfm is a ZA (Cape) radio station
[07:11] <andrewlsd> :-/
[07:11] <paddatrapper> Kilos: (wasn't my post), sounds good. Would like to get involved in something related to grassroots programming/linux
[07:11] <Kilos> lol
[07:11] <paddatrapper> mazal: hey
[07:11] <mazal> andrewlsd, just think how much fun cli is for me with my bad spelling
[07:11] <andrewlsd> paddatrapper: did you post that?
[07:11] <paddatrapper> Maaz: my typo
[07:11] <Maaz> paddatrapper: Huh?
[07:12] <paddatrapper> andrewlsd: no, but thought it looked interesting
[07:12] <mazal> maaz don't be cheeky
[07:12] <Maaz> mazal: Huh?
[07:12] <andrewlsd> mazal: yuor sellnipg si nto a porlbem
[07:12] <paddatrapper> Maaz: the hey was for you, not mazal
[07:12] <Maaz> paddatrapper: One learns a new thing every day
[07:12] <mazal> hahahaha
[07:13] <Kilos> Maaz coffee on
[07:13]  * Maaz starts grinding coffee
[07:13] <andrewlsd> mebbe I should sign up for `reddit`. Is there a Reddit-IRC bridge
[07:13] <andrewlsd> Maaz: coffee please
[07:13] <Maaz> andrewlsd: Yessir
[07:13] <mazal> maaz coffee please
[07:13] <Maaz> mazal: Okay
[07:13] <mazal> maaz huge
[07:13] <Maaz> mazal: What?
[07:13] <mazal> maaz big
[07:13] <Maaz> mazal: What?
[07:13] <mazal> maaz bigger
[07:13] <Maaz> mazal: Sorry...
[07:14] <Kilos> large
[07:14] <mazal> oi
[07:14] <mazal> maaz large
[07:14] <Maaz> In a beer mug just for you mazal
[07:14] <mazal> dankie tog
[07:14] <magespawn> Maaz tell zeorin i will be in jhb soon, maybe that coderdojo can get off the ground
[07:14] <Maaz> magespawn: Okay, I'll tell zeorin on freenode
[07:15] <Kilos> paddatrapper tell us a bit about yourself
[07:15] <paddatrapper> andrewlsd: not sure how you'd link the two - different goals (link aggregation vs conversation), but you could link to an online IRC client or something
[07:16] <andrewlsd> ty, good perspective paddatrapper 
[07:16] <Kilos> and if you are getting involved go to https://ubuntu-za.org and join us on launchpad and out mailing list
[07:16] <paddatrapper> I'm born and bred Cape Townian, currently studying Computer Science and Engineering. Usually I run Arch, but needing to get used to Ubuntu because I want to do some porting of Ubuntu Touch
[07:16] <theblazehen> andrewlsd: Well, reddit is more compared to a forum than to irc
[07:17] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos, andrewlsd and mazal!
[07:17] <Kilos> many of our guys are in CT
[07:17] <mazal> maaz dankie
[07:17] <Maaz> Groot plesier mazal my vriend
[07:17] <Kilos> Maaz dankie man
[07:17] <Maaz> Groot plesier my vriend
[07:17] <magespawn> Maaz bosnack
[07:17] <Maaz> magespawn: Excuse me?
[07:17] <magespawn> Maaz botnack
[07:17] <Maaz> magespawn: Excuse me?
[07:17] <magespawn> Maaz botsnack
[07:17] <Maaz> YAY someone cares about me too!
[07:18] <mazal> maaz botsnack
[07:18] <Maaz> YAY someone cares about me too!
[07:18] <theblazehen> You *could* write a client in python, have it connect to irc to that
[07:18] <magespawn> three tries on that one
[07:18] <andrewlsd> paddatrapper: I'm CT too.
[07:18] <theblazehen> Maaz: coffee on
[07:18]  * Maaz starts grinding coffee
[07:18] <andrewlsd> paddatrapper: Q: "How do you know if someone is running Arch"
[07:18] <andrewlsd> A: "They tell you"  :-P
[07:19] <andrewlsd> I have been AnArchist too
[07:19] <paddatrapper> andrewlsd: for sure! How else are we supposed to go about it? :)
[07:19] <andrewlsd> saw a lovely collection of Arch wallpapers. With stuff like "if it ain't broke, it ain't fun"
[07:20] <andrewlsd> "yaour[t] turn"
[07:20] <Kilos> i go sort sheep
[07:20] <Kilos> wbb
[07:20] <Kilos> Maaz watch them
[07:20] <Maaz> oh Kilos I will watch them no problem, but you better be back soon!
[07:21] <paddatrapper> If I open my laptop and someone doesn't ask what distro I'm running, I get twitchy
[07:22] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for theblazehen!
[07:23] <Langjan> Hi guys, hard-core Linux concept? http://mybroadband.co.za/news/wireless/162466-secret-south-african-network-connects-users-for-free-with-no-speed-limit-and-no-cap.html
[07:23] <Maaz> Langjan: By the way, Kilos on freenode told me "tell Langjan ^^ beteken kyk bo" 1 day, 15 hours, 22 minutes and 58 seconds ago
[07:24] <mazal> Môre oom Langjan
[07:24] <theblazehen> Langjan: Check out hyperboria / CJDNS
[07:26] <Langjan> Goeiemore mazal 
[07:27] <paddatrapper> There's also one in Cape Town: CTWUG
[07:28] <Langjan> Interesting
[07:30] <Langjan> hi Kilos 
[07:31] <chesedo> hi paddatrapper and thanks for the link (as well as welcome)
[07:32] <chesedo> hopefully the OP will join us tonight
[07:32] <paddatrapper> chesedo: thanks, anytime
[07:33] <Langjan> Kilos, seems Maaz has forgotten the message you left...
[07:38] <magespawn> paddatrapper: i believe there is also one in durban and richards bay
[07:38] <Kilos> hi Langjan 
[07:38] <magespawn> i do not think they are as organised as ptawug though
[07:39] <Langjan> Alles reg Kilos ?
[07:40] <Kilos> ja dankie en daar?
[07:40] <Langjan> Wat het ek gebreek?
[07:40] <Langjan> Goed dankie
[07:40] <Kilos> hahahaha
[07:40] <Langjan> Just checking in, moet gaan eet, gesels later
[07:41] <Kilos> enjoy
[07:41] <Kilos> i go fetch sheep
[07:41] <Kilos> didnt get there yet
[08:13] <Langjan> Hi Kilos 
[08:29] <Kilos> hi Langjan 
[08:32] <Langjan> Hi Kilos is die skape nou opgepas?
[08:33] <Kilos> hulle hier nou ja
[08:33] <Langjan> Wanneer braai ons tjoppies?
[08:33] <Langjan> Of op die spit...
[08:34] <Langjan> dan genoeg vir almal op irc, lekker...
[08:34] <Kilos> lol
[08:34] <Langjan> lmga
[08:34] <Kilos> so nou
[08:34] <Kilos> wat het jy gebreek
[08:34] <Langjan> Ok ek moet gaan inkopies doen, sien jou later wanneer iets anders breek
[08:35] <Kilos> mooi ry
[08:35] <Langjan> dankie, mooi bly en laat weet van die braaidag
[08:36] <Kilos> ok
[10:32] <theblazehen> hi pavlushka
[10:45] <anton_may> anybody got a box/pc/server outside the republic?
[10:52] <nlsthzn> anton_may, yup
[10:52] <nlsthzn> why?
[10:52] <anton_may> kewl can you telnet to an ip for me?
[10:52] <anton_may> and see if you connect?
[10:53] <nlsthzn> I guess... the IP in SA?
[10:53] <anton_may> yip
[10:53] <anton_may> will pm
[10:53] <nlsthzn> kk
[10:56] <pavlushka> theblazehen: Hi , how are you?
[10:57] <theblazehen> good and you pavlushka?
[10:57] <pavlushka> theblazehen: I am okay, thank you, :)
[10:59] <pavlushka> feeling a little sleepy, see ya, :)
[11:00] <theblazehen> Cheers
[11:33] <magespawn> on the road time, chat later
[13:18] <Kilos> inetpro how does the weather look to you?
[13:25] <mazal> Ai , oom Kilos , seems I have the same problem on 16.04 that I had on 14.04. Automatic updates not working.
[13:25] <mazal> Notifier said nothing this week , so ran it manually in cli and there are updates.
[13:26] <mazal> And the updater is set to check daily
[13:40]  * nlsthzn is not sure how the updater works... perhaps it only auto triggers when there is a security update?  I can't remember when last I saw the updater to be honest mazal ... oh and hi
[13:46] <Kilos> hmm...
[13:46] <Kilos> big storm brewing
[13:46] <Kilos> power could go at anytime
[13:47] <mazal> Ish I need 10 more minutes
[13:48] <Kilos> inetpro go home now
[13:48] <Kilos> quick
[13:48] <Kilos> hi Wolfeyes 
[13:49] <Kilos> chesedo you got your stuff sorted??
[13:49] <mazal> Looking rough here also , gonna start shutting down
[13:49] <mazal> Bye for now
[13:53] <Wolfeyes> hey Kilos
[14:57] <chesedo> Kilos: nope, had to fetch my bro from school...
[14:58]  * chesedo thinks he might be in the same state as pro this evening
[14:59] <Kilos> oh my
[15:02] <Kilos> ill be back just now, wanna change drives
[15:03] <Kilos> chesedo G+ needs to be notified about tonights meeting
[15:03] <chesedo> Kilos: done last night
[15:03] <Kilos> why didnt it alert me
[15:03] <Kilos> ai!
[15:04] <Kilos> ill just tweet as well
[15:08] <chesedo> Kilos: sorry am having an is... brrr
[15:08] <chesedo> Maaz: tell Kilos "sorry am having an issue with trying to figure out who all should be notified"
[15:08] <Maaz> chesedo: Righto, I'll tell Kilos on freenode
[15:14]  * Kilos came again back
[15:15] <Kilos> chesedo ill try find the ubuntuza twit place
[15:15] <Kilos> forgot password
[15:17] <Kilos> i forgot what i used for iy
[15:17] <Kilos> it
[15:17] <Kilos> ai!
[15:18] <Kilos> inetpro ping
[15:19] <Kilos> glad to see you still here paddatrapper 
[15:19] <Kilos> and Wolfeyes 
[15:22] <Kilos> chesedo whats happening with inetpro ?
[15:23] <chesedo> Kilos: have no idea... maybe he got caught in the rain
[15:24] <Kilos> lol ok
[15:24] <Kilos> inetpro please tweet meeting info on ubuntu-za
[15:33] <Kilos> chesedo do you tweet?
[15:33] <chesedo> nope Kilos, I only bark :P
[15:34] <Kilos> hahaha
[15:34] <chesedo> ... i do tweet but do not have access to za's account
[15:34] <chesedo> ... well tweet sometimes (think like about 10 in total)
[15:34] <Kilos> i was trying to tweet to it
[15:34] <Kilos> can one do that
[15:35] <chesedo> no, you will have to tweet from it
[15:35] <Kilos> eish
[15:35] <Kilos> stupid browser goes directly to mine so will need another browser to get there
[15:36] <Kilos> ai!
[15:36] <chesedo> or log out... or start a private session
[15:40] <chesedo> hi kmf
[15:40] <kmf> hi chesedo 
[15:40] <chesedo> excited about tomorrow?
[15:42] <kmf> yep ... just runnning around now :D
[15:42] <kmf> at the moment ... I'm the only person going :)
[15:43] <chesedo> in this weather :P
[15:43] <kmf> and my family talk later :D
[15:43] <kmf> sure
[15:43]  * chesedo will be there... just have to leave just before 12
[15:50] <Kilos> ai!
[15:57] <Kilos> hi gremble 
[15:58] <gremble> hey Kilos
[15:58] <gremble> How are you?
[15:58] <Kilos> good ty and you?
[15:59] <Kilos> you here for tonights meeting
[15:59] <gremble> Only by accident. 
[15:59] <Kilos> 2 1/2 hours time
[15:59] <Kilos> grrrr
[15:59] <gremble> I am missing my fencing class
[15:59] <gremble> because I don't want to drive in the rain
[15:59] <Kilos> lol
[15:59] <Kilos> good ill arrange rain on meeting nights
[15:59] <gremble> Did you just growl at me? haha
[16:00] <Kilos> lol yeah
[16:00] <Kilos> because you only here by accident
[16:00] <Kilos> you have been neglecting us
[16:03] <gremble> I read the list and I replied once. :< I haven't really had the time to be here that much
[16:04] <Kilos> younare forgiven
[16:06]  * chesedo now sees why Kilos has a hard time tweeting... it is far from growling :P
[16:07] <Kilos> lol
[16:07] <chesedo> sien ons oom more by Ubuntu 4 Hope?
[16:08] <Kilos>  nee seun ek hang tuis uit
[16:08] <chesedo> ok
[16:12] <Kilos> they working hard on xenial bugs
[16:14]  * chesedo still has to upgrade
[16:15] <Kilos> better to wait
[16:17] <chesedo> na, just have to find some time for a clean install
[16:19] <gremble> Can you do an update to xenial without reinstalling?
[16:20] <Kilos> from 14.04 yes
[16:20] <Kilos> or from 15.10
[16:21] <gremble> Seems I am running 15.10 atm 
[16:22] <gremble> I am so used to arch/debian. Ubuntu has some odd niggles, like uname is lsb_release
[16:25] <paddatrapper> Kilos: of course. I'm quite enjoying this channel!
[16:26] <paddatrapper> gremble: that explains why I get nothing from uname (been too lazy to Google)
[16:27] <gremble> I don't understand how you can be too lazy to google. :P I've seen people use google to find the date. It has literally become our interface to any kind of knowlege
[16:27] <gremble> knowledge
[16:29] <paddatrapper> gremble: it was simply a passing curiosity at the end of an ssh session. My Internet history is full of DuckDuckGo queries for pretty much anything
[16:31] <gremble> paddatrapper, Ah.
[16:32] <paddatrapper> My Linux education was Internet, only now years down the line, am I starting to use man pages more
[16:33]  * Kilos hates man pages
[16:33] <Kilos> my man pages are called inetpro 
[16:33] <chesedo> gremble: what do you mean "get nothing from uname"? mine has output
[16:33] <gremble> Im not old enough to read the man pages yet
[16:34] <Kilos> and im too old
[16:34] <chesedo> lol, man pages can be fun once one uses the search
[16:35] <paddatrapper> They are useful for when I'm on a very poor Internet connection
[16:36] <gremble> Welp. chesedo just caught me out being an imbecile. I was in the wrong interpreter to run uname
[16:36] <chesedo> that too
[16:36] <Kilos> haha
[16:37] <paddatrapper> Haha. Thought you meant no useful output
[16:37] <gremble> It gives me my kernel info. Which is nice
[16:37] <Kilos> what would you use uname for
[16:38] <gremble> gremble@MostlyHarmless:~/haskell$ uname -a
[16:38] <gremble> Linux MostlyHarmless 4.2.0-35-generic #40-Ubuntu SMP Tue Mar 15 22:15:45 UTC 2016 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[16:38] <Kilos> what will you do with kernel info
[16:38] <gremble> Know which kernel I have
[16:38] <chesedo> Kilos: to read the distro's /etc/lsb_* file mainly
[16:39] <chesedo> or atleast i think so :D...
[16:39] <Kilos> Linux T410 3.13.0-85-generic #129-Ubuntu SMP Thu Mar 17 20:50:15 UTC 2016 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[16:39] <chesedo> nope, am wrong
[16:39] <Kilos> what can all that mean
[16:39] <gremble>        uname - print system information
[16:39] <gremble> that is what it does
[16:40] <paddatrapper> Very useful too when troubleshooting stuff
[16:40] <Kilos> lshw and lspci show me useful info
[16:40] <chesedo> Kilos: for gremble it means that his clock is two hours ahead...
[16:40] <Kilos> i dont troubleshoot i use kde
[16:40] <Kilos> hehe
[16:40] <nlsthzn> >.<
[16:40] <Kilos> hi nlsthzn 
[16:41] <nlsthzn> o/
[16:41] <chesedo> nlsthzn: o/
[16:41] <nlsthzn> \o
[16:41] <gremble> It reads UTC time chesedo Not my time
[16:41] <gremble> My time is fine
[16:41]  * nlsthzn is the strong silent type
[16:41] <Kilos> lol
[16:42] <chesedo> gremble: "22:15:45 UTC" - it is currently 20:15:45 UTC
[16:42] <chesedo> like Kilos'
[16:42] <paddatrapper> Interesting - on Android it simply returns "Linux"
[16:42] <chesedo> maybe that is when the kernel was compiled...
[16:42] <gremble> Tue Mar 15 22:15:45 UTC It is not the 15th of March either :P That is my kernel compile date
[16:43] <nlsthzn> and it is def not 20:xx UTC anyway :p
[16:43] <chesedo> paddatrapper: you are missing parameter flags - like 'uname -a'
[16:44] <chesedo> lol, yeah... i seem to have added instead of subtracting
[16:44]  * chesedo wbb
[16:44] <paddatrapper> Good point
[16:44] <gremble> I've been factoring primes by hand all day. I am guilty of that too :P
[16:45] <paddatrapper> Linux localhost 3.0.64-CM-gfb6555f #1 SMP PREEMPT Sun Apr 10 12:16:06 PDT 2016 armv7l GNU/Linux
[16:45] <nlsthzn> Linux vector-sigma 4.4.0-21-generic #37-Ubuntu SMP Mon Apr 18 18:33:37 UTC 2016 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[16:45] <nlsthzn> nice and fresh(ish)
[16:46] <paddatrapper> Running 16.04?
[16:46] <nlsthzn> yup
[16:48] <paddatrapper> Can only download the ISO in a few days time, can't wait for the last windows machine I own to be purged
[16:48] <Kilos> lol
[16:49] <Kilos> paddatrapper have you joined us on launchpad and the mailing list?
[16:49] <Kilos> hi rwbx 
[16:50] <Kilos> welcome to ubuntu-za
[16:50] <rwbx> hi Kilos, this is my first time.. 
[16:50] <paddatrapper> Kilos: Mailing list yes, haven't had a chance to do launchpad yet. Need to get home first
[16:50] <Kilos> cool make this your home channel
[16:50] <paddatrapper> Hey rwbx
[16:51] <rwbx> hey paddatrapper
[16:51] <Kilos> rwbx how did you find us
[16:51] <mazal> Evening all
[16:51] <Kilos> hi mazal 
[16:52] <mazal> This was a good day :)
[16:52] <rwbx> i found out about the channel on the sa subreddit.
[16:52] <Kilos> you didnt spend any money
[16:52] <mazal> Nope oom
[16:52] <Kilos> cool you are the second guy from there
[16:52] <mazal> Hi rwbx , welcome ;)
[16:53] <paddatrapper> rwbx: I also found it from there today
[16:53] <Kilos> chesedo thats another place to advertise
[16:53] <mazal> Kilos, I have hot water again , had a lovely lunch with a friend and a package came I was waiting for. Nice day
[16:53] <rwbx> Hello mazal...
[16:53] <Kilos> i wonder who posted there about us
[16:53] <Kilos> hi pavlushka 
[16:54] <pavlushka> Hello Kilos !
[16:55] <rwbx> Yeah, that make the two of us paddatrapper..
[16:55] <pavlushka> Kilos: where who posted?
[16:56] <Kilos> in reddit
[16:56] <Kilos> about our channel
[16:57] <pavlushka> ah!
[16:57] <paddatrapper> It was a comment on a thread in /r/SouthAfrica
[16:59] <rwbx> Yeah on reddit in the south african subreddit, the post was from a dude who wanted to know how to start a linux programme to teach other people..
[17:00] <Kilos> pity he didnt come here
[17:00] <Kilos> we have a guy in durban working on something similar i think
[17:00] <Kilos> i have to go eat
[17:01] <gremble> I am applying for a job as a technical writer. I could probably do write-ups for something like that. It would definitely help me learn 
[17:02] <rwbx> Lets just hope that he finds his way on here..
[17:09] <chesedo> Kilos: i commented there on the thread that we have meeting tonight so he may join...
[17:10] <chesedo> hope william makes it too then
[17:10] <chesedo> lol @gremble for factorising primes
[17:21] <rwbx> chesedo: is it normally this quiet or is it just me
[17:22] <nlsthzn> chesedo, nice reply on reddit... I gave it an upvote :p
[17:22] <chesedo> rwbx: it has actually been a very active day so far... some have up to 10 messages... and then there are days when someone needs help
[17:23] <chesedo> nlsthzn: ty
[17:23] <nlsthzn> np
[17:23] <gremble> Chesedo, we took a detour to prime based cryptography in Algebra. Exploring some efficient methods for calculating whether a given number is in fact a prime.
[17:24] <Kilos> chesedo you need to remind william via email to get him here
[17:24] <chesedo> gremble: sounds like fun (guess the start atleast)
[17:25] <chesedo> gremble: what's the module called, btw?
[17:25] <gremble> chesedo, WTW 381 Abstract Algebra
[17:25] <gremble> at UP
[17:29] <chesedo> hi williamk
[17:29] <Kilos> ohi williamk 
[17:29] <williamk> Hi Chesedo Kilos
[17:30] <Kilos> we are trying to find a guy that posted on reddit williamk that also wants to teach kids
[17:30] <Kilos> hopefully we can get you two together
[17:31] <Kilos> paddatrapper can you fing him for us?
[17:31] <Kilos> pretty please
[17:31] <chesedo> lol
[17:31] <Kilos> s/fing/find
[17:32] <chesedo> Kilos: his nick is netscape101
[17:32] <Kilos> i went to reddit once but irc is easier
[17:32] <rwbx> he goes by the username  netscape101 on reddit
[17:32] <Kilos> ping him guys
[17:32] <gremble> There's his first problem 
[17:34] <Kilos> explain gremble 
[17:34] <Kilos> for me
[17:34] <chesedo> his nick on freenode seems to be linux_mentor
[17:35] <Kilos> there is lots of mentoring going around
[17:35] <Kilos> someone even added me in linuxpadawan to go look for a mentor
[17:35] <Kilos> my mentors are here
[17:36] <gremble> It is just a dumb joke. Netscape was a really old browser. Like 1994 old
[17:36] <Kilos> oh the thing that got win to build IE
[17:37] <gremble> I think windows had IE by that time, but that was the direct competition for IE
[17:37] <paddatrapper> Kilos: I'll give it a try
[17:37] <gremble> It turned into firefox later, if I recall correctly
[17:37] <Kilos> i read something about that ya
[17:38] <Kilos> ty paddatrapper 
[17:38] <paddatrapper> It forked and then merged back or something
[17:39] <gremble> It forked and then spooned
[17:39] <Kilos> lol
[17:40] <Kilos> aw i havent got that other thing with kfn on this drive
[17:40] <Kilos> chesedo ask kfm to join us please
[17:40] <Kilos> the popey thing
[17:40] <chesedo> Kilos: he is here already
[17:41] <Kilos> kfm hi there
[17:41] <Kilos> did he greet?
[17:41] <gremble> kmf*
[17:41] <Kilos> oh ya
[17:41] <Kilos> ooops
[17:42] <Kilos> someone today scrambled my brain with kfm
[17:42] <chesedo> kfc
[17:42] <Kilos> maybe the frog murderer
[17:42] <Kilos> kfm is a radio station in CT
[17:42] <gremble> Isn't a "paddatrapper" a kind of shoe?
[17:42] <Kilos> ya big ones
[17:43] <Kilos> size 13
[17:43] <Kilos> oh my
[17:43] <paddatrapper>  gremble It's a nickname relating to my shoes, yes
[17:43] <paddatrapper> Yes it is
[17:43]  * Kilos waits for hibana
[17:45] <Kilos> i remember in the old days peeps spoke about paddaslagters as well
[17:46] <Kilos> was a larger pocket knife than a bokslagter
[17:46] <rwbx> TIL paddatrapper are big shoes.. lol i thought it had something to do with turtle trapping or something..
[17:46] <Kilos> lol
[17:47] <rwbx> yeah my afrikaans is definitely not what it used to be..
[17:47] <gremble> Haha in Germany in like the 16th/17th century they had "messers" that means knife. So you have "Grosse Messer", a large knife (more like a sword) and then you have "Kriegs Messer" that is literally "war knife" and that was 1.5m long
[17:47] <gremble> Padda = frog/toad
[17:48] <Kilos> wb inetpro 
[17:50] <Kilos> Maaz seen inetpro 
[17:50] <Maaz> Kilos: inetpro was last seen 10 hours, 45 minutes and 36 seconds ago in private on freenode [2016-04-26 00:04:58 PDT], and has been online on freenode since 2016-04-26 10:48:11 PDT
[17:50] <Kilos> thats no good 
[17:51] <Kilos> Maaz seen superfly 
[17:51] <Maaz> Kilos: superfly was last seen 23 hours, 11 minutes and 41 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2016-04-25 11:39:27 PDT], and has been online on freenode since 2016-04-22 04:52:20 PDT
[17:51] <Kilos> holy moly
[17:54] <rwbx> So I'm guessing since this is a ubuntu irc channel that most of the users in here use Ubuntu as an os..
[17:54] <Kilos> mostly yes rwbx 
[17:55] <gremble> But there are some others
[17:55] <Kilos> but we have other linux users as well
[17:55] <chesedo> and a win one
[17:55] <gremble> I'm a new transition to ubuntu. I used to run Arch, but I was a lazy installer and got ubuntu mate
[17:56] <Kilos> chesedo who is the win one again
[17:56] <Kilos> oh ya private_user
[17:57] <rwbx> Cool, I tried Ubuntu a while back but unity wasnt for me, I ended up with Crunchhbang, then Lubuntu linux..
[17:57] <Kilos> inetpro wb again
[17:57] <Kilos> ku buntu rocks
[17:57] <gremble> I <3 crunchbang but then they died
[17:57] <gremble> Mate is pretty nice so far
[17:58] <Kilos> rwbx crunchbang with openbox?
[17:58] <rwbx> Yeah thats the one.
[17:58] <nlsthzn> #!++ is now a thing
[17:58] <Kilos> there is a ubuntu remix with open box
[17:59] <rwbx> There's been a community continuation called bunsenlabs, its great but just not the same as the old #!
[18:00]  * nlsthzn is checking out cub linux... basically looks like chrome-os type deal built on top of ubuntu 14.04
[18:02] <rwbx> nlsthzn: Wasn't cub linux called chromium-Os?  
[18:04] <nlsthzn> yup rwbx 
[18:06] <rwbx> Pear os was awesome while it was still active
[18:09] <magespawn> hi all
[18:09] <inetpro> Kilos: thank you
[18:09] <inetpro> what did you kick there that pulled out my network cable?
[18:09] <Kilos> hi magespawn 
[18:09] <Kilos> sorry inetpro 
[18:10] <inetpro> ai! 
[18:10] <superfly> gremble: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYBjVTMUQY0
[18:10] <magespawn> Kilos: room is growing
[18:11] <Kilos> yeah
[18:11]  * inetpro wondering why
[18:11] <Kilos> reddit peeps found us
[18:11] <gremble> "Barry Dingle" xD
[18:11] <magespawn> well s9me people saw a mention by zeorin on reddit
[18:12] <magespawn> some too
[18:13] <gremble> superfly, that is a really good ad actually
[18:13] <inetpro> hmm...
[18:14] <inetpro> Kilos: the peeps from #minetest-za are not all here yet
[18:14] <Kilos> inetpro did you get wet?
[18:14] <inetpro> Kilos: what song is that?
[18:15] <Kilos> ai!
[18:15] <Kilos> ek sukkel partykeer
[18:15] <Kilos> did the storm ctach you on your bicycle man
[18:15] <Kilos> catch
[18:15] <Kilos> hi Langjan 
[18:16] <inetpro> oh singing in the rain
[18:16] <Kilos> lol
[18:16] <Langjan> Hi Kilos hoe gaan dit met jou?
[18:16] <Kilos> just a walking in the rain
[18:16] <Langjan> Great
[18:16] <Kilos> goed dankie oom
[18:16] <inetpro> Kilos: at least I was not sinking in the rain
[18:16] <Kilos> did you get wet?
[18:17] <superfly> Over here it's shivering in the rain. 
[18:17] <Langjan> Lucky fish, jealous
[18:17] <paddatrapper> dry as a bone here
[18:17] <Langjan> there was some rain in the north but nothing here
[18:17] <inetpro> Kilos: I'm here, that is most important
[18:17] <Langjan> where are you paddatrapper ?
[18:17] <Kilos> we got 5mm and lots thunder and wind
[18:17] <paddatrapper> Though the storm last week was fantastic
[18:17] <paddatrapper> Langjan: Cape Town
[18:17]  * chesedo always takes these as meaning that inetpro rode a motorcycle
[18:18] <Kilos> yes chesedo 
[18:18] <inetpro> Kilos: I've had worse
[18:18] <superfly> paddatrapper: where in CA? 
[18:18] <Langjan> bushveld very, very dry
[18:18] <paddatrapper> superfly: Muizenberg side
[18:19] <superfly> paddatrapper: which Street? :-P
[18:19] <Langjan> near Newlands where it always rains...
[18:19] <Kilos> inetpro thats the same as if someone asks you are you hungry, and you answer ,I've been hungrier
[18:19] <paddatrapper> superfly: You live here too?
[18:19] <superfly> paddatrapper: I'm also in Muizenberg 
[18:19] <paddatrapper> Ah nice :D
[18:19] <Langjan> No further news re oz Kilos ?
[18:19] <chesedo> inetpro: if you ever see a weirdo on a Honda 250 pass you, then you know it was me
[18:20] <Kilos> haha
[18:20] <Kilos> nothing Langjan 
[18:20] <Kilos> sigh
[18:20] <Langjan> ai!
[18:20]  * superfly lives on the other side of the vlei 
[18:20] <inetpro> chesedo: color?
[18:20] <chesedo> inetpro: red (forgot that)
[18:21] <Langjan> like Ferrari...
[18:21] <inetpro> hmm... interesting
[18:21] <chesedo> Langjan: like fire :P
[18:21] <magespawn> brb
[18:21] <Kilos> can 250s pass anything faster  than a bicycle
[18:21] <superfly> Kilos: I was about to ask that same question 
[18:21] <Kilos> haha
[18:21] <chesedo> Kilos: if you push it yes :P
[18:21] <paddatrapper> superfly: I'm the other side, about 5km from the beach
[18:21] <Langjan> youll be surpprised
[18:21]  * inetpro shall look out for the weirdo on the red Honda :-)
[18:22] <Kilos> i know modern ones are fast
[18:22] <chesedo> or you can use a pair of oars
[18:22] <superfly> paddatrapper: where do you work? Here or in Town? 
[18:22] <Kilos> but i am used to 850 and up
[18:23] <chesedo> Kilos: wow, i do not plan on ever going above 600
[18:23] <Langjan> You like the yanks, nothing better than cc's
[18:23] <Langjan> but they never catch the germans
[18:23] <paddatrapper> superfly: Currently studying at UCT
[18:23] <theblazehen> Yay, I'm not late yet
[18:24] <Kilos> nono my 850 guzzi could eat up the miles
[18:24] <Langjan> and the fuel
[18:24] <superfly> paddatrapper: CompSci? Ever heard of #BreakTheRules? 
[18:24] <Langjan> thats why its guzzy
[18:24] <Langjan> guzzles the fuel
[18:24] <Kilos> not too bad the 1000 bmw used more
[18:24] <chesedo> inetpro: what you driving?
[18:25] <Kilos> pronounced in italian man
[18:25] <Kilos> guttzi
[18:25] <paddatrapper> superfly: Yes and yes. Unfortunately couldn't make the Winter one, but definitely keen fo rhte end of the year
[18:25] <Langjan> guttzi lotsa pettri 
[18:25] <gremble> What is #BreakTheRules?
[18:26] <Kilos> superfly tell him to meat you at bebconf
[18:26] <superfly> paddatrapper: look out for Nomanini, that's my company. I don't make it to #BreakTheRules though 
[18:26] <inetpro> chesedo: just a very functional two wheels driven by a 150 motor that cost me around R80.00 a week
[18:26] <paddatrapper> Will definitely superfly!
[18:27] <Kilos> chesedo crack  your knuckles
[18:27] <superfly> gremble: it's a programme where students can meet companies for the purpose of internships 
[18:27] <inetpro> chesedo: yellow with Big Boy for the branding
[18:27] <Kilos> oh maaz does that part
[18:27] <gremble> Oh nice
[18:27] <superfly> paddatrapper: yes, you should come to DebConf
[18:28] <paddatrapper> For sure. Definitely coming
[18:29] <superfly> 👍
[18:29] <Kilos> rwbx where are you
[18:30] <Kilos> you on the fone superfly 
[18:30] <superfly> Kilos: ya
[18:30] <superfly> Trying to get my daughter to sleep 
[18:30] <chesedo> Maaz: start meeting about Ubuntu Monthly Meeting - April 2016
[18:30]  * Maaz gets out his memo-pad and cracks his knuckles
[18:30] <inetpro> Maaz: I am Gustav H Meyer
[18:30] <Maaz> inetpro: Okay
[18:30] <chesedo> Maaz: topic Welcoming and Introduction
[18:30] <Maaz> Current Topic: Welcoming and Introduction
[18:30] <superfly> Maaz: I am Raoul Snyman 
[18:30] <Maaz> superfly: Righto
[18:30] <chesedo> Welcome all and thanks for joining in on our meeting this evening
[18:30] <gremble> Maaz, I am Jaco Stroebel
[18:30] <Maaz> gremble: Righto
[18:30] <rwbx> Kilos: i had to go afk to root android phone..
[18:30] <magespawn> Maaz I am Greg Eames
[18:30] <Maaz> magespawn: Yessir
[18:30] <Kilos> Maaz I am Miles Sharpe
[18:30] <Maaz> Kilos: Yessir
[18:30] <chesedo> Our bot Maaz will do the minutes as usual so please introduce yourselves to him using `Maaz: I am <firstname lastname>` eg.
[18:31] <chesedo> Maaz: I am Pieter Engelbrecht
[18:31] <Maaz> chesedo: Righto
[18:31] <williamk> Maaz I am William Kinghorn
[18:31] <Maaz> williamk: Sure
[18:31] <paddatrapper> Maaz: I am Kyle Robbertze
[18:31] <Maaz> paddatrapper: Yessir
[18:31] <theblazehen> Maaz I am Jeandre le roux
[18:31] <Maaz> theblazehen: Alrighty
[18:31] <rwbx> Maaz: I am Greg Senye
[18:31] <Maaz> rwbx: Yessir
[18:31] <chesedo> oh and welcome all new commers like paddatrapper rwbx
[18:31] <kmf> Maaz: I am Karl Fischer
[18:31] <Maaz> kmf: Okay
[18:31] <chesedo> Today's meeting agenda can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Meetings/20160426
[18:31] <chesedo> any last minute changes can be suggested now
[18:32] <inetpro> welcome paddatrapper!
[18:32] <inetpro> anyone else here for the first time?
[18:32] <paddatrapper> hey. Thanks!
[18:33] <chesedo> all happy with the agenda?
[18:33] <rwbx> Yep me...
[18:33] <Kilos> Wolfeyes has fallen asleep i think
[18:33] <chesedo> inetpro: ^^
[18:33] <Kilos> hi melodie 
[18:33] <inetpro> chesedo: +1
[18:33] <Kilos> join our meeting
[18:33] <superfly> Kilos: I can't stay, my phone is keeping mis truoble awake. highlight me if you need me, I'll hear my PC
[18:33] <chesedo> inetpro: meaning rwbx is also new
[18:33] <Langjan> Maaz: I am Jan Greeff
[18:33] <Maaz> Langjan: Sure
[18:33] <Kilos> wil do superfly 
[18:33] <chesedo> Maaz: topic Review minutes of previous meeting
[18:33] <Maaz> Current Topic: Review minutes of previous meeting
[18:34] <chesedo> the last meeting's minutes is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Meetings/20160322
[18:34] <melodie> hello Kilos inetpro superfly and everyone! 
[18:34] <inetpro> ahh, welcome rwbx as well!
[18:34] <melodie> hhow is everybody?
[18:34] <chesedo> It might be a good idea to go over it
[18:34] <chesedo> hi melodie
[18:34] <rwbx> inetpro: Thanks
[18:34] <inetpro> always nice to see the new faces, hope you guys stick around
[18:34] <Kilos> good ty melodie 
[18:34] <melodie> he Kilos !
[18:34] <melodie> do you have lugs from Burkina Faso now?
[18:35] <chesedo> does anyone have something they want to raise from the last meeting?
[18:35] <Kilos> melodie join ##kilos
[18:35] <melodie> I sent Ubuntu Malinux there, with someone who develops a culture of spirulina
[18:35] <Kilos> meeting underway here
[18:35] <kmf> +1
[18:36] <chesedo> Maaz: agreed No one has an issue with previous minutes
[18:36] <Maaz> Agreed: No one has an issue with previous minutes
[18:36] <chesedo> Maaz: topic Plans for 2016
[18:36] <Maaz> Current Topic: Plans for 2016
[18:37] <chesedo> is there anyone needing help signing up for something or with Ubuntu membership?
[18:38] <chesedo> oh kmf +1??
[18:38] <paddatrapper> What exactly is Ubuntu Membership?
[18:38] <kmf> chesedo: +1 for the agreeing with minutes
[18:38] <chesedo> Kilos: ^^
[18:38] <Kilos> look at my ip address paddatrapper 
[18:38] <chesedo> kmf: oky
[18:39] <paddatrapper> Kilos: Ah ok will do
[18:39] <Kilos> do you see hosts in your irc client
[18:39] <chesedo> lol paddatrapper I think Kilos means his cloak
[18:39] <gremble> paddatrapper, It means you get an ubuntu email adress and cloak
[18:39] <Kilos> yes sorry i meant my cloak
[18:39] <gremble> It also comes with a few other perks
[18:39] <paddatrapper> Yeah I see. Cool
[18:40] <Kilos> you get a certificate signed by mark
[18:40] <gremble> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership
[18:40] <paddatrapper> Don't see hosts, but nothing a /whois can't fix
[18:40]  * chesedo hopes he is not going to fast today...
[18:40] <magespawn> and resposibilities and duties
[18:40] <Kilos> only if you get pushed into them magespawn 
[18:41] <chesedo> paddatrapper: you interested in it?
[18:41] <magespawn> please forgive the spelling, i am on my phone
[18:41] <Kilos> np
[18:41] <paddatrapper> Curious, think I need to get Ubuntu on a couple more devices before I look at it seriously
[18:42] <chesedo> paddatrapper: right, np
[18:42]  * chesedo does not have it either
[18:42] <chesedo> so moving on
[18:42] <chesedo> Maaz: topic Ubuntu for Hope
[18:42] <Maaz> Current Topic: Ubuntu for Hope
[18:42] <Kilos> kmf shout
[18:42] <chesedo> The launch day for Ubuntu for Hope is tomorrow 10am at Pretoria National Botanical Garden - hope to see some of you there
[18:42] <Kilos> hi qwebirc45832 
[18:43] <kmf> it's gonna be fun :D
[18:43] <chesedo> you can see more at https://plus.google.com/u/0/events/co5cg53j2uoqs1nllma9h1u729s
[18:43] <chesedo> https://www.facebook.com/events/1085897771430392/
[18:43] <kmf> :D
[18:43] <magespawn> cool beans
[18:43] <chesedo> kmf: what should one bring with?
[18:43] <kmf> picnic things ...
[18:43] <magespawn> is there lots of people going
[18:44] <kmf> food, something to drink, something to sit on ...
[18:44] <chesedo> great, and any entrance fees?
[18:44] <williamk> kmf : hope you guys are going to take pics and vids to share with us
[18:44] <kmf> magespawn nope just me and chesedo so far ... my family and some friends are also coming
[18:44] <Kilos> yes kmf pics are a must
[18:45] <Langjan> Looks great, unfortunately I need to go the other way, to Polokwane
[18:45] <chesedo> oh and anything for the RP?
[18:45] <Kilos> and chesedo a write up
[18:45] <chesedo> Kilos: i'll write on a tree, yes :P
[18:45] <Kilos> this is an ubuntu-za event
[18:45] <kmf> Entrance to the Gardens: 
[18:45] <kmf> Adults: R30 - Students: R18 - Children: R14 -Under 6 years: Free
[18:45] <Langjan> Pensioners?
[18:46] <Langjan> P on a Tree...lmga
[18:46] <Kilos> ballies should be free like kids
[18:46] <kmf> Langjan not sure ...
[18:46] <inetpro> kmf: I would love to be there but unfortunately I can't make it
[18:46] <chesedo> what happens on a release party anyway?
[18:46] <Langjan> under 60 and over 66
[18:46] <chesedo> lol @Langjan
[18:46] <Langjan> 6
[18:46] <Kilos> 64
[18:46] <magespawn> +1
[18:47] <Langjan> u6 and O 66
[18:47] <Langjan> you still umfaan
[18:47] <Kilos> ai!
[18:47] <kmf> Langjan: SA Senior Citizens (with ID): Free Tues
[18:47] <Kilos> what is a senior citizen
[18:47] <gremble> Old people
[18:47] <rwbx> Sounds awesome, maybe another time since, I'm in another province and all..
[18:47] <chesedo> kmf: any other news on the project like logo and website?
[18:48] <Langjan> one that breaks everything
[18:48] <Langjan> Kilos, 
[18:48] <Kilos> what age is classed as old man
[18:48] <Langjan> 64
[18:48] <Kilos> 'over 60
[18:48] <Kilos> lol
[18:48] <kmf> chesedo ... https://ubuntuforhope.org/
[18:49] <chesedo> kmf: nice...
[18:49] <Langjan> Great project, perhaps to partner with Volkshulp, they do the same but for oldies
[18:50] <kmf> I would like some likes https://www.facebook.com/Ubuntu-for-Hope-1117317621653050/  ;)
[18:50] <chesedo> Facebook peeps ^^
[18:51] <rwbx> i'll tell a few friends to like and share..
[18:51] <chesedo> is there anything else for the project that we need to cover for the meeting?
[18:52] <Kilos> kmf done
[18:52] <kmf> Kilos: thanks
[18:52] <kmf> chesedo: we always needs some more volunteers :) especially for the website 
[18:53] <chesedo> kmf, noted...
[18:53] <magespawn> kmf i'll have a look and let you know
[18:53]  * chesedo hoped to do something this week, still have to finish an assignment
[18:53] <Kilos> wb inetpro 
[18:54] <chesedo> Maaz: agreed Ubuntu for Hope needs more volunteers like with website
[18:54] <Maaz> Agreed: Ubuntu for Hope needs more volunteers like with website
[18:54] <chesedo> Maaz: topic Events
[18:54] <Maaz> Current Topic: Events
[18:54] <chesedo> no known events happened last month
[18:54] <Kilos> ubuntu for hope release is an event
[18:55] <Kilos> and we need to try have some release parties
[18:55] <chesedo> kmf: will we still be going the nikola route
[18:55] <chesedo> Kilos: yes it is
[18:55] <kmf> chesedo: ... you decision 
[18:55] <kmf> s/you/your
[18:55] <chesedo> kmf:  ok
[18:56] <chesedo> magespawn: seems like options are open ^^
[18:56] <kmf> aslong as the code is here https://gitlab.com/groups/ubuntuforhope
[18:56] <chesedo> superfly: you open?
[18:56] <magespawn> cool beans, i will make some time for it
[18:56] <rwbx> is the event only gonna be in jhb? are there any plans to move out to other areas or provinces?
[18:57] <chesedo> kmf: right
[18:57] <Kilos> hopefully it will grow from here rwbx 
[18:57] <chesedo> rwbx: we are just starting and hope to grow it
[18:57] <rwbx> Kilos: glad to hear that
[18:58] <paddatrapper> definitely would be great to see it grow
[18:58] <kmf> so if people needs access for the project just request it from kmf chesedo superfly inetpro 
[18:58]  * chesedo wants to go on to debConf but has to wait for superfly
[18:58] <Kilos> chesedo is it nikola and bazaar
[18:59] <chesedo> Kilos: it will be nikola and gitlab
[18:59] <Kilos> ok
[18:59] <chesedo> ... or can be
[18:59] <chesedo> will skip debConf until fly is ready...
[18:59] <chesedo> Maaz: topic Miscellaneous
[18:59] <Maaz> Current Topic: Miscellaneous
[19:00] <chesedo> our main thing here is currently the education program from williamk
[19:00] <Kilos> hmm... why hasnt tumbleweed joined us
[19:01] <chesedo> and kmf also seems to be in the know how of it...
[19:01] <Kilos> williamk paddatrapper and rwbx can tell you more about another guy also doing something similar
[19:01] <Kilos> qwebirc45832 welcome to ubuntu-za
[19:01] <Kilos> feel free to join in
[19:02]  * chesedo can last remember something about figuring out which material will be best to use
[19:02] <paddatrapper> Well there was a post on /r/SouthAfrica on reddit looking for a way to help underprivileged High School students learn how to program/use linux
[19:02] <Langjan> kmf, I invited about 150 FB friends to like ubuntu
[19:02] <melodie> Langjan and did they?
[19:03] <chesedo> the link - https://www.reddit.com/r/southafrica/comments/4gh9ju/how_to_start_free_program_to_help_underprivileged/
[19:03] <Langjan> Ive seen a few come thro
[19:03] <paddatrapper> The OP was netscape101, unfortunately I haven't been able to get in contact with him, though several messages through comments and direct messages were left for him
[19:04] <Kilos> ty paddatrapper 
[19:04] <chesedo> ty for the effort paddatrapper
[19:04] <Kilos> hopefullyy we can get them together
[19:04] <kmf> Langjan: thanks :)
[19:04] <kmf> melodie :D
[19:05] <chesedo> yip, i am still trying to wrap my head around it...
[19:05] <Kilos> williamk ping
[19:05] <melodie> hi kmf 
[19:05] <Kilos> you gotta keep  up
[19:06] <magellanic> hi all, the cpt installfest, what's the status around that?
[19:06] <Kilos> no multitasking meeting times
[19:06] <Kilos> hi magellanic 
[19:06] <Kilos> you wanna login with Maaz ?
[19:06] <magellanic> I can't remember how :D
[19:06] <Kilos>   Maaz I am Name Surname
[19:06] <Maaz> Kilos: Alrighty
[19:07] <nlsthzn> Maaz, I am late
[19:07] <Maaz> nlsthzn: Sure
[19:07] <Kilos> ai!
[19:07] <nlsthzn> :p
[19:07] <magellanic> maaz I am Hiren
[19:07] <Maaz> magellanic: Alrighty
[19:07] <chesedo> magespawn: i have no idea, maybe Kilos or so knows
[19:07] <chesedo> sorry magellanic ^^
[19:07] <Kilos> knows what
[19:07] <Kilos> ah
[19:08] <williamk> Kilos : I am still here
[19:08] <magellanic> there is an installfest for bandwidth barn mentioned on the agenda, I was just wondering about that
[19:08] <Kilos> i havent heard about an installfest down there
[19:08] <chesedo> nlsthzn: you might want to overrite your 'i am' as maaz remembers the last one :D
[19:09] <chesedo> Kilos: it has been on since last year
[19:09] <magellanic> oh hehe
[19:09] <rwbx> what's the installfest about, for those of us out of the loop?
[19:09] <Kilos> yes but i havent heard of anyone planning it
[19:09] <nlsthzn> oh that is fine chesedo ... sometimes I do things on purpose... sometimes...
[19:10] <chesedo> oh that sounds like me nlsthzn... though only sometimes... :P
[19:10] <nlsthzn> ;D
[19:10] <Kilos> rwbx its a get together where peeps can bring pcs and have ubuntu installed for them
[19:10] <williamk> rwbx : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_user_group#Installfests
[19:11] <superfly> chesedo: sorry, couldn't leave without waking the little lady up, she seems to be settled now though
[19:11] <rwbx> Thanks for the info Kilos and williamk..
[19:11] <chesedo> magespawn: seems like we might have to go through the logs to get an answer there...
[19:11] <chesedo> superfly: right will switch to debConf soon
[19:12] <magespawn> chesedo: sorry?
[19:12] <chesedo> agh, sorry magellanic again ^^
[19:12] <Kilos> lol
[19:12] <chesedo> mage<tab> is failling me tonight magespawn
[19:13] <magespawn> np 
[19:13] <chesedo> Kilos: any update on Lugs involvement?
[19:13] <Kilos> very little chesedo 
[19:14] <Kilos> lugs seems to be falling apart as well
[19:14] <Kilos> or just too busy
[19:14] <chesedo> that's understandable
[19:14] <Kilos> superfly being second contact do you order the xenial sticks if maia cant
[19:15] <Kilos> we need to order soon i think
[19:15] <superfly> poke maia
[19:15] <Kilos> ill ask maia
[19:15] <Kilos> ok
[19:15] <chesedo> all ok if we move on?
[19:16] <chesedo> Maaz: topic DebConf volunteers
[19:16] <Maaz> Current Topic: DebConf volunteers
[19:17] <chesedo> superfly: any update that you might want to share?
[19:17] <chesedo> I know Cryterion and Vince-0 might have signed up for volunteering...
[19:17] <superfly> I don't really have much to say other than we need more local sponsors (see if your company is willing to be a Bronze Sponsor - only R20,000), and more local volunteers who can spend time with some admin-y stuff
[19:18] <Langjan> Where do I stand in line for a few 16.04 sticks?
[19:18] <superfly> we need folks to help with the bursaries team most of all at the moment, I think
[19:18] <paddatrapper> What does that entail?
[19:18] <gremble> Blegh. I would like to volunteer for DebConf but too far haha
[19:18] <superfly> and I'd appreciate a backup for the web team, if anyone knows CSS well
[19:18] <Kilos> when they come ill ask for quite a few Langjan 
[19:18] <Langjan> thks Kilos 
[19:18] <magespawn> anything that can be done remotely superfly ?
[19:19] <chesedo> superfly: css... now that is something i would like to help with
[19:19] <superfly> magespawn: yes, most of us are currently working remotely
[19:19] <magespawn> i can stick my oar in there too
[19:19] <chesedo> superfly: is the IRC channel best medium for communication?
[19:19] <superfly> chesedo: IRC and mailing list
[19:19] <superfly> #debconf-team on OFTC
[19:20] <superfly> and debconf-team@lists.debconf.org
[19:20] <chesedo> paddatrapper: are you asking about the conf?
[19:21] <kmf> superfly ... I brought it with Marketing again today (sponsorship)
[19:21] <paddatrapper> Yes, I'd like t help, though CSS is not my stron point
[19:21] <superfly> kmf: great!
[19:21] <superfly> paddatrapper: can you help out when it's happening? like on the ground?
[19:21] <magespawn>  cool beans suoerfly, i will see where i can help
[19:21] <kmf> superfly: the CEO is also aware
[19:21] <Kilos> Maaz debconf is <reply> #debconf-team and debconf-team@lists.debconf.org
[19:21] <Maaz> Kilos: I already know stuff about debconf
[19:21] <superfly> I know we'll need volunteers for front-desk, video team, etc
[19:21] <Kilos> ai!
[19:22] <superfly> kmf: great
[19:22] <magellanic> superfly: add me on for on the ground assistance
[19:22] <paddatrapper> superfly: I'd be more that happy helping with video - I have 6 years live sound experience and been working video for about the same
[19:23] <chesedo> wow, great magellanic
[19:23] <superfly> paddatrapper, magellanic: best would be to sign up to the mailing list and tell folks on there
[19:23] <chesedo> oh and paddatrapper
[19:23] <magellanic> okay will do
[19:23] <paddatrapper> will do
[19:23]  * chesedo sees things there might be coming together... getting excited
[19:25] <Kilos> wb rwbx 
[19:25] <chesedo> anything that I might have missed for the meeting guys?
[19:25] <chesedo> and before I forget
[19:25] <Kilos> just one query
[19:25] <williamk> superfly : I am going to be in CT visiting my brother, not sure which days I will be able to attend, I have already registered
[19:25] <chesedo> Maaz: idea Look into the logs to find info on Cpt installFest
[19:25] <Maaz> Idea recorded: Look into the logs to find info on Cpt installFest
[19:25] <Kilos> is trello still an item with us
[19:25] <rwbx> Kilos: my bad Xorg crashed during system update..
[19:26]  * inetpro needs a sjambok
[19:26] <williamk> When I know which days i will be able to attend, then i will volunteer
[19:26] <inetpro> Kilos: waar's daai ding?
[19:26] <chesedo> lol
[19:26] <Kilos> inetpro you have mine still
[19:26] <inetpro> hmm...
[19:26] <chesedo> Kilos: you trying to get past the cleanup?
[19:26] <Kilos> your friend hibana hid it
[19:27] <Kilos> nope chesedo is trello still a thing with us
[19:27]  * chesedo thinks we will need something to stay organised with tasks and ideas
[19:27] <Kilos> does anyone still use it
[19:27] <inetpro> sorry guys... instability issues here
[19:27] <Kilos> just asking
[19:28] <Kilos> inetpro ice pack to the back of the head helps
[19:29] <chesedo> we may actually be able to have our g+, twitter ,etc events more on time if we did... as i keep forgeting about them
[19:29] <Kilos> then we must use it
[19:30] <Kilos> its just rusting my pc here
[19:30] <chesedo> yip...
[19:30] <Kilos> poke the pro
[19:30] <Kilos> he is getting slack
[19:31] <chesedo> Kilos: you still going to clean it up?
[19:31] <Kilos> clean what up
[19:31] <Kilos> trello?
[19:31] <chesedo> trello
[19:31] <Kilos> oh my
[19:31]  * chesedo sees time is moving past
[19:31] <Kilos> inetpro ping
[19:31] <Kilos> fixit
[19:31] <chesedo> moving on while we sort it
[19:31] <melodie> trello is expensive for bandwitdth, Kilos you don't have much bandwidth yet, right?
[19:32] <chesedo> Maaz: topic Elect chairperson for next meeting
[19:32] <Maaz> Current Topic: Elect chairperson for next meeting
[19:32] <Kilos> yes melodie 
[19:32]  * Kilos votes chesedo
[19:32] <chesedo> Kilos: chesedo won't be attending... have exam next day...
[19:33] <Kilos> oh my
[19:33] <chesedo> ... unless the schedule changes
[19:33] <Kilos> inetpro +1
[19:33] <Kilos> he is the backup
[19:33] <Kilos> and always the fly
[19:33] <chesedo> inetpro or superfly: you open for next meeting chair?
[19:34] <chesedo> and as a last resort there is Kilos :P
[19:34] <superfly> negative
[19:34] <Kilos> nope i cant sit in the hotseat
[19:35] <Kilos> bum too sensitive
[19:35] <Kilos> inetpro then
[19:35] <chesedo> hmm, ok... maybe someone wants to give it a go?
[19:35] <Kilos> put down inetpro 
[19:35] <chesedo> gremble theblazehen magespawn ^^
[19:35] <Kilos> he has a month to organise things so he has timne
[19:36] <chesedo> Kilos: maybe in a bit...
[19:36]  * chesedo goes to check what he said in last meeting
[19:36] <kmf> +1 for chesedo 
[19:36] <gremble> I am not even good at attending meetings. Nevermind chairing. That will be a no from me, thanks/
[19:36] <magespawn> it has been awhile
[19:36] <Kilos> lol
[19:37] <Kilos> oh ya magespawn 
[19:37] <chesedo> magespawn: you up for it.. unless pro takes?
[19:38] <kmf> ... +1 for inetpro 
[19:38] <magespawn> i will be moving and starting a new job in between, i will be the second
[19:38] <Kilos> +1 for inetpro 
[19:38] <chesedo> brr ok
[19:38] <chesedo> Maaz: agreed inetpro or magespawn to chair next meeting
[19:38] <Maaz> Agreed: inetpro or magespawn to chair next meeting
[19:38] <chesedo> Maaz: topic Next meeting
[19:38] <Maaz> Current Topic: Next meeting
[19:39] <chesedo> Maaz: agreed Next meeting is 24 May 2016 @ 20:30
[19:39] <Maaz> Agreed: Next meeting is 24 May 2016 @ 20:30
[19:39] <chesedo> and that's it... thank you all for attending
[19:39] <chesedo> and sorry for running late
[19:39] <kmf> awesome
[19:39] <Kilos> ty for chairing chesedo excelent job
[19:39] <chesedo> Maaz: end meeting
[19:39] <Maaz> Meeting Ended
[19:39] <Maaz> Minutes available at json: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2016-04-26-18-30-21.json :: txt: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2016-04-26-18-30-21.txt :: html: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2016-04-26-18-30-21.html
[19:39] <kmf> inetpro, superfly, chesedo ... I have added your ssh keys to the ubuntuforhope.org website
[19:40] <superfly> kmf: thanks, I think?
[19:40] <Kilos> haha
[19:40] <paddatrapper> Kilos: Sorted a Launchpad ID for myself
[19:40] <kmf> superfly ... :D
[19:40] <chesedo> Maaz: last minutes is <reply> Minutes available at json: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2016-04-26-18-30-21.json :: txt: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2016-04-26-18-30-21.txt :: html: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2016-04-26-18-30-21.html
[19:40] <Maaz> chesedo: If you say so
[19:41] <Kilos> cool paddatrapper in our site is the link to join
[19:41]  * chesedo wonders where kmf got his ssh key
[19:41] <Kilos> he is clever
[19:42] <Kilos> rwbx you can also join our mailing list and launchpad account on https://ubuntu-za.org
[19:42] <magespawn> launchpad
[19:43] <rwbx> Kilos, thanks I'll check it out..
[19:44] <chesedo> oh kmf is there anything that is needed at a release party?
[19:44] <Kilos> ok guys. sleep time for me
[19:44] <Kilos> night sll. sleep tight
[19:44] <Kilos> all
[19:44] <chesedo> night oom Kilos
[19:44] <magespawn> night Kilos 
[19:45] <paddatrapper> night Kilos 
[19:45] <rwbx> nite Kilos
[19:45] <williamk> anyone still on the list from KZN durban area
[19:47] <chesedo> williamk: list?
[19:47] <williamk> sorry IRC
[19:48] <kmf> chesedo ... got your key from Launchpad
[19:48] <chesedo> williamk: Cryterion Vince-0 and magespawn as far as i know
[19:48] <kmf> chesedo nothing for tomorrow
[19:48] <chesedo> great ty kmf
[19:49] <magespawn> bit far north for durban
[19:50] <chesedo> oh boy how far magespawn
[19:50] <williamk> greg is a bit far north
[19:51]  * chesedo 's launchpad keys seems correct still
[19:51] <kmf> chesedo: yep that's why I used them
[19:52] <chesedo> kmf: just had to make sure as I changed it earlier this year...
[19:52] <kmf> k
[19:53] <chesedo> well night all o/
[19:53] <magespawn> i think i might i need to update mine
[19:53] <kmf> ok Night all
[19:53] <magespawn> night chesedo 
[19:55] <williamk> chesedo : aprox 280 kms
[19:56] <paddatrapper> night chesedo 
[19:58] <magespawn> williamk: thats about right
[20:05] <magespawn> thats me out too, good night all
[20:17] <williamk> good night all