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StyxAlsoWulf, Done. I manually set the time, and now I'll let ntp take care of it. Thanks for your help :-)00:01
Rhorsefathomstory: have you set up your disk with all the partitions?00:03
aluim having a hard time installing torch on 16.04 -.-00:05
KiBi1_ahh it's a wonderful day00:12
Hydr0p0nXanyone tell me how to automount UDF-fs formatted dvd's ? iso format automounts and UDF blurays automount00:16
robotdevil1sooo..... got and hp laptop with uefi and hp recovery partitions and windows 10,  I used to delete all recovery partitions and move everything around but I really want to just shrink the windows 10 partition and install grub to the mbr, can I still do this, this old school way??00:17
alutorch is not installing on 16.0400:19
robotdevil1i started the installer and it want to install grub to the /dev/sda so is it reasonable to assume it will go smoothly //00:19
aluI might have to downgrade to 16.0400:19
robotdevil1??*00:19
robotdevil1is uefi only a issue if secureboot or whatever is enabled ?00:20
TJ-robotdevil1: I did something similar last week; I booted the Ubuntu live ISO, did 'Try' then used gparted to shrink the Windows file-system as small as possible, then 'dd'-ed the start of the disk and each partition to a USB flash storage device00:20
robotdevil1TJ-: like a backup??00:21
TJ-robotdevil1: if the disk has GPT then "dd if=/dev/sdX bs=512 count=34 of=/dev/sd${TARGET}" will copy over the primary GPT00:21
icecube45anyone feel up for a challenge? The 16.04 upgrade borked my server a bit, and I need help getting it to work again, hah00:22
TJ-robotdevil1: then i did "partprobe /dev/sd${TARGET}" and then copied over the partitions with, for each, "dd if=/dev/sdX${PARTNUM} bs=100M of=/dev/sd${TARGET}${PARTNUM}"00:22
icecube45DNS resolving has failed, and x is no longer starting00:22
drong0just wondering, i have an msata drive and a normal hdd in my machine. the msata gets picked up as /dev/sdb ... is there a way to make this /dev/sda ?00:23
TJ-robotdevil1: and finally I added the correct secondary GPT table at the end of the target with "sfdisk --move-second-header /dev/sd${TARGET}" (which actually recreates it if it isn't there, from the primary header)00:23
robotdevil1TJ-: Im sort of following, are you saying this was all necessary?00:24
TJ-drong0: robotdevil1 GPT has primary table (34 sectors) at start and the secondary the same at the end of the device00:24
TJ-robotdevil1: in order to make the backup target correct and bootable too, yes00:24
robotdevil1oh00:24
TJ-drong0: sorry, got your nickname by mistake00:25
drong0TJ-, you're cool man!00:25
TJ-drong0: why do you want to rename the devices? any reference to their contents should be using UUIDs so the device name doesn't matter00:25
robotdevil1TJ-: so basically whatever the GPT partition is it has to have a wrapper so to say and then the free space after I can install too?00:26
drong0TJ-, just a pedantic boy00:26
TJ-robotdevil1: GPT uses the 1st 34 sectors (by default), actually sector 1-33. sector 0 is left for a hybrid/protective msdos MBR partition table too00:27
TJ-robotdevil1: and GPT puts the secondary (backup) table in the final 34 sectors of the device... so to do a correct copy you have to take care of that00:27
TJ-robotdevil1: so if you pre-shrink the Windows NTFS partition so it doesn't take up unnecessary space when transferred to the target (which is generally a much smaller device) it saves time and means you can likely put the file-systems from a 128GiB+ PC into a 32GiB USB Flash device00:29
TJ-drong0: well, you could write udev rules for it but I think you'd cause more hassle than its worth.00:30
drong0TJ-, all good , appreciate it. ill live with it hehe00:30
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fkinwordpressHey All, can anyone advise me on how to update the permalink structure of my wordpress website?00:33
fkinwordpressI am so utterly lost00:33
fkinwordpressand I've been at it for a number of days :|00:34
drong0fkinwordpress, didn't know this was #wordpress00:35
fkinwordpressdrong0, didn't know that existed. nom nom nom00:36
drong0yum!!!!00:37
Phanesis virtualbox the best vm host available for ubuntu?00:38
Phanesfkinwordpress: you are looking for #apache i think00:39
Phanesor #wordpress00:39
drong0fkinwordpress, it can be done within wordpress (should have it under settings) or you can do .htaccess00:39
fkinwordpress@phanes, Virtualbox should be suitable for running ubuntu in a VM, how powerful is your machine?00:39
Phanesits pretty powerful00:40
fkinwordpress@drong, yeah the menu inside wordpress for permalinks is a whoreable lie00:40
fkinwordpressit does nothing00:40
fkinwordpress@Phanes yeah man you're good get an ISO and get into it!00:40
Phaneswas hoping for something a little more seamless00:40
drong0fkinwordpress, just ditch wordpress me thinks ha00:40
fkinwordpress@Phanes Have you heard of Unity or seamless mode?00:41
Phanessounds like gui shit00:41
fkinwordpress@Phanes you might aso consider updating to the latest bulding os 10 Pro if you ahve it. Its has a built in subsystem that so far is legit00:41
Phanesoops pardon my frenchy00:41
fkinwordpress@drong Fact But I'm not sure what I could replace it with00:41
Phanesplease stop using twitter tags on irc00:42
squintyfkinwordpress,  no need for the amperand before a nick here.  type type the person's nick or use00:44
squinty!tab00:44
ubottuYou can use your <tab> key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.00:44
drong0@_@00:44
MINTRULES5384534hi00:46
MINTRULES5384534how do i unmount something in only one location00:46
MINTRULES5384534how do i unmount something in only one location00:46
Phanesumount path|device00:47
MINTRULES5384534cool00:47
MINTRULES5384534thanks00:47
compdocnp00:47
MINTRULES5384534this ec2 volume stuff is hard xD00:48
Phanesnot really00:48
MINTRULES5384534well00:48
MINTRULES5384534with the snapshots00:48
MINTRULES5384534and where they r mounted00:48
etzerhi all00:49
etzerI just install ubuntu 16.04 on my Acer Aspire V N17 Nitro and the wireless did not detected by the OS. I can only connected through wire. please help00:51
TJ-etzer: so it has network? can you do "pastebinit <( lspci -nnk )"00:51
etzerok, let me try that. what should i do there after?00:52
TJ-give us the URL it provides so we can review the output00:52
etzerthanks00:53
etzerbrb00:53
fkinwordpressping00:54
fkinwordpressGUESS WHO JUST LEARNED HOW TO USE IRSSI FROM THE TERMINAL?!00:54
fkinwordpressnot me because I already knew cuz I'm smart and own a mac00:54
MINTRULES5384534im using ubuntu00:54
MINTRULES5384534with windows sound00:54
MINTRULES5384534AND ITS SOOOOOOOOOO FUKING ANNOYING00:54
MINTRULES5384534AARGH00:55
fkinwordpressMINTRULES5384534: What is your life!?00:55
MINTRULES5384534THAT LOGIN SOUND00:55
fkinwordpressI would not be able to stand th-- I KNOW!00:55
fkinwordpressand The FONTS!?00:55
fkinwordpressyou gotta be kidding me with the fonts00:55
MINTRULES5384534ARRGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHh00:55
donu7alrighty, after a long and lengthy battle with 14.04 and zentyal, I finally fixed all the issues. Thank you SO MUCH everybody especially TJ- and Wulf and everybody that pitched in. Y'all saved muh booty and I'm all the grateful <300:55
donu7have a good night erybody00:55
drong0donu7, jack your big booty !!!!00:55
Hydr0p0nXanyone tell me how to automount UDF-fs formatted dvd's ? iso format automounts and UDF blurays automount correctly00:56
aluhas anyone installed torch on 16.0400:57
fkinwordpresscany anyone speak to the benefits of ZFS? I want to use that at home for my file server01:00
Hydr0p0nXfkinwordpress - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZFS has a pretty good writeup01:02
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elisa87_http://askubuntu.com/questions/762826/finding-the-ip-of-a-hub-connected-to-the-router please have a look at my question. It is related to rDNS somehow01:08
TJ-elisa87_: connect the device directly to a PC and use "ip neigh show" to discover its MAC address, and monitor the interface using tcpdump to see if it is trying to obtain an address via DHCP, or used a statically configured IP01:11
zykotick9Hydr0p0nX: i notice the zfs ubuntu wiki page doesn't mention the legal problems... </ot>01:12
tgm4883zykotick9: OT for this channel01:14
fkinwordpressI LOVE YOU ALL MY LITTLE KITTIES KBAI01:14
voidDotClassHey people. In ubuntu 16.04, my laptop's touchpad doesn't do right click. any ideas?01:15
voidDotClassi mean the physical right click button01:15
voidDotClassleft click only works while i have a finger on the touchpad as well01:15
lemoerheyho folks. we found a bug in the "watchdog.service" file (missing quoute). how should we report it? do we have to use this nerving "ubuntu-bug" tool or can we simply create a bug report on launchpad?01:17
TJ-voidDotClass: open a terminal, execute "xev" ... move the pointer over the small xev GUI window that appears, then press the right button and see if any events are reported by xev in the terminal. Press Ctrl+C to stop the program, or press its GUI exit icon01:17
TJ-lemoer: you can create the bug report directly on launchpad, if you're logged in there should be a link top-right of the page when  you're looking at the bug list for the affected package01:18
fathomstoryBoot-repair-disc is useless01:19
TJ-lemoer: "Report a bug" top-right at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/watchdog01:19
fathomstoryCannot fix grub error01:19
lemoerTJ-: thank you very much! :)01:19
pitiye_guys i tried to usb install both ubuntu and lubuntu 16.04, but but sometimes after the partitioning process and beginning the installation process, my laptop shut down itself in both times , why is this ?01:21
* zykotick9 notes that "ubuntu-bug PACKAGENAME" gives developers/bug-tracking team a lot of good information... but _might_ not be suppied via the web site...01:21
zykotick9s/but/that/01:21
B0g4r7pitiye_, maybe it's overheating.01:21
pitiye_B0g4r7: but now i am on 15.04, and its not overheating01:22
TJ-zykotick9: when we already know the problem and the solution it is unnecessary noise and frustration01:22
B0g4r7Maybe it needs some kind of thermal management software that is not active at install time...maybe.01:22
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zykotick9TJ-: fair enough...01:22
B0g4r7You may find that if you try it in a cool environment with lots of airflow it makes it through.01:23
TJ-zykotick9: lemoer said it was a simple typo in a service file01:23
pitiye_B0g4r7: it looks like the only way for me to install it using a cross-install , what is the best way to do it ?  unetbootin /hard disk option does not work.01:23
B0g4r7Or I could be completely wrong.01:23
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mercutioanyone know why ubuntu would be installing mdadm and iscsi and lxcfs by default?01:23
zykotick9TJ-: i wasn't refering to _this_ case at all... just "generally"01:23
TJ-zykotick9: ahh, yes, for weird stuff you've got no idea on of course01:24
B0g4r7Cross-install huh.  Install on machine a, boot on b?01:24
pitiye_B0g4r7: something like wubi would do it , from linux01:25
voidDotClassTJ-, no events are reported when i press the physical left / right click buttons on the touchpad, but moving the pointer on the touchpad itself shows events, and if i have a finger on the touchpad and press the physical left click button, then the buttonreleaseevent and a few others are reported01:27
squintypitiye_,  fwiw, one of my systems here, during a number of fresh installs, I had to keep a fan on full blowing directly onto it because of thermal issues.  Once the install was done, it was fine.01:28
pitiye_squinty: TY for ur info , i will take your opinion !01:29
squintypitiye_,  worth a try anyways :)01:30
pitiye_squinty: (Y)01:30
[Saint]I have a bit of a specialty question that isn't necessarily Ubuntu-specific, though I am using Ubuntu Server machines jammed in the mix also. Anyway: Is there any reason to expect X.11 forwarding to fall over if there is one or more ssh forwarding agents in the middle of the local and remote?01:31
[Saint]Everything in the path is configured to sh x.11 forwarding.01:31
[Saint]Or should I be looking elsewhere as to why this isn't working for me?01:31
TJ-voidDotClass: are you pressing the buttons whilst the pointer is over the xev GUI window (click it first) because it must have input focus01:32
voidDotClassTJ-, yes, and clicking via the touchpad is working, only via the physical buttons is it not working01:32
[Saint]X.11 forwarding works as expected if I do like: local->remote.01:32
TJ-voidDotClass: hmmm, sounds like an evdev issue (event devices)01:33
voidDotClassTJ-, no easy fix?01:33
[Saint]But if I do it like: local->ssh-forwarding-agent-remote, X.11 forwarding seems to fall over.01:33
[Saint]errr, *local->ssh-forwarding-agent->remote01:33
voidDotClassTJ-, you might remember you helped me the other day in #linux?01:34
TJ-voidDotClass: "apt-get install evtest" and then "sudo evtest" select the touchpad and see what you get01:34
voidDotClassok, will do, i'm reinstaling right now01:34
[Saint]ANy ideas what tree I might bark up for this? Any ssh/X compositor wizards around?01:34
TJ-voidDotClass: I'v been to sleep since then; seriously, I couldn't recall helping someone just 2 hours ago... it all becomes a blur :D01:34
TJ-voidDotClass: I've been working on some bugs with devices not correctly recognised but don't think your issue is directly related01:35
voidDotClasshaha TJ- . i had just bought a new laptop and i was having issues, you told me to try ocpi_osi etc01:35
TJ-voidDotClass: oh, yes!! I neeeded that myself this weekend for a new Asus T300chi - usb touchscreen digitizer wouldn't show up when the PC booted on AC power... needed "acpi_osi=! acpi_osi="Windows 2013" "01:36
voidDotClassTJ-, yes, i remmeber you had an asus device as well :)01:36
TJ-voidDotClass: yeah, I remember looking at your ACPI DSDT now01:37
zykotick9TJ-: oh... evtest is neat, i'd never heard of it before.  thanks.01:37
voidDotClassTJ-, actually i managed to get it working without having to do any of that, just had to install ubuntu, then log on under advanced -> resume, run ubuntu-drivers and install the nvidia driver, and reboot, and then it worked01:37
TJ-zykotick9: yeah, nothing like having problems for discovering fab tools :D01:38
voidDotClassbut one problem i had was, on the boot screen where it asks for password, it wouldnt let me enter the pw01:38
voidDotClassso i tried installing without a hd password, and that works01:38
zykotick9TJ-: hehe ya, i've been there ;)01:38
voidDotClassi'm now trying to reinstall w/ the hd password01:38
TJ-voidDotClass: ahhh, the proprietary drivers were required01:38
voidDotClassTJ-, yeah01:38
voidDotClassany idea why it doesnt accept keyboard input on the pw screen?01:38
TJ-voidDotClass: what is generating that request? is it the boot manager, or the kernel's initrd scripts, or something else?01:39
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TJ-voidDotClass: it depends at what point in time it occurs as to what devices have been initialized01:39
voidDotClassTJ-, i don't know, but its the screen where it asks for security key to unlock hd01:39
RhorseHi, Do all synaptic touchpads have a 3 button mode? my touchpad control panel doesn't mention a 3rd button.01:39
voidDotClassif you select to encrypt hd during install, then you get that screen on boot to unlock the hd01:39
TJ-voidDotClass: oh, is this for the LUKS/dm-crypt FDE passphrase?01:39
voidDotClasssda crypt i believe, yes TJ-01:39
TJ-voidDotClass: sorry, thought you meant a literal password in the disk drive itself!01:40
voidDotClassnah01:40
voidDotClassTJ-, it works if i dont install the nvidia drivers01:40
voidDotClassbut after installing them it doesnt let me put in the pw01:40
zykotick9Rhorse: my synaptic touchpad only has two buttons...  the pointer one has three...01:40
TJ-voidDotClass: well, during a normal regular GUI boot plymouth splash screen is up, and it should display a small text input box asking for the passphrase - is that what you see?01:40
zykotick9Rhorse: "mode" <- sorry missed that part...01:41
voidDotClassTJ-, not sure what plymouth is, but i see the ubuntu logo followed by textbox to enter passphrase01:41
voidDotClassbut it doesnt accept my keyboard input01:41
voidDotClassafter installing the nvidia drivers01:41
TJ-voidDotClass: 'plymouth' is the tool that draws the splash screen and accepts input from user01:41
voidDotClassok01:42
zykotick9Rhorse: i'd guess "yes" all touchpad _should_ probably be able to do a 3rd button...  physically my 1&2 buttons together = 3rd button press...  3rd buttons and wheels have been supported in xorg forever...01:43
TJ-voidDotClass: OK, then the thing to check is whether the kernel's command line has a "vt.handoff=..." parameter. you'd need to get into the GRUB menu at boot-time by holding Shift key down, then highlighting the entry, pressing 'e' and navigating to the line starting 'linux ...'01:43
voidDotClasswill try that TJ- . could it have anything to do with running or not running 'sudo update-initramfs -u' after installing the nvidia driver?01:44
TJ-voidDotClass: the GUI is supposed to be on VT7 (tty7) but if that setting is missing it may be on VT1. You may simply need to alter VT focus by pressing Alt+F1 for VT1, or Alt+F7 for VT7, to set the input focus. That has caught me out a few times01:44
Rhorsezykotick9: on my Dell, you get 3 button functionality by pressing the two buttons at same time. I don't get that with my Clevo touchpad....01:44
Rhorsezykotick9: maybe I need to add a conf file to /etc/X11/..?01:45
zykotick9Rhorse: ummmm....  i have NO freaking idea....  sorry, but i'm the wrong person - i'm NOT up on latest touchpad stuff AT ALL!!!  or any latest hardware  :|01:45
zykotick9Rhorse: a snippit <- or whatever the /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/FOO stuff is called, might solve your issue...  but i have NO idea what you might need in there.  best of luck.01:47
TJ-I'd just like to get regular scroll gesture support working on this touchpad! it's a real pain having to point the pointer to a scrollbar and drag it01:47
vervetRhorse: i'm gonna +1 zykotick9, i'd look at the conf files in X11, i had to do that for synaptics to get middle click/paste working01:48
TJ-Rhorse: look under /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/ to begin with01:49
wldcordeiroHas anyone else run into this? http://askubuntu.com/questions/760345/cannot-import-saved-openvpn-configuration-file-in-ubuntu-16-04-lts01:49
ToeSnacksMy login screen seems very zoomed in. All the UI elements are very large. Unity does not have the same issue when logged in. Are there UI scaling options for larger resolutions that could be causing this? I have a 3k screen.01:49
wldcordeiroI just got hit with this when I tried to setup OpenVPN by importing the config in network manager.01:49
TJ-ToeSnacks: you mean the Greeter ? are you using 16.04 Xenial?01:49
ToeSnacksTJ-: yes I am running 16.0401:49
voidDotClassTJ-, is there anything in ubuntu which would auto turn off your keyboard backlit keys? my laptop has a thing in windows where if i leave it idle, the keyboard backlit turns off automatically, then turns back on when i come back01:50
ToeSnacksTJ-: I believe it's LightDM01:50
TJ-ToeSnacks: I've seen that, sometimes it flicks from native res to a lower res01:50
ToeSnacksthe resolution doesn't seem to actually change, just the element scale.01:50
TJ-ToeSnacks: bug 157164001:51
ubottubug 1571640 in lightdm (Ubuntu) "lightdm changing resolution" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/157164001:51
TJ-ToeSnacks: hmmm, yes, it could be that too I guess. I assumed it was altering the res to 800x600 or something01:51
zykotick9vervet: that "middle click paste" is 3rd button ;)01:51
ToeSnacksyeah it looks like 800x600 size wise but my display looks very blurry at all but native res and it still looks sharp which leads my to believe the resolution is unchanged.01:52
TJ-ToeSnacks: right, I think that observation fits my case too... so possibly a scaling issue01:53
Rhorsevervet: TJ- zykotick9 Thank's guys. That's what I was after the middle click paste button. At least I have an idea where to start now...01:54
ToeSnacksTJ-: I can log back out and verify the resolution for you if you like01:54
TJ-ToeSnacks: when it happens might be worth Ctrl+Alt+F1, log-in, find the .Xauthority file lightdm is using (under /var/lib/lightdm/ I believe) and using it with xrandr to query the screen resolution - or look at /var/log/lightdm/Xorg.log01:54
ToeSnacksTJ-: yeah I'll do that and update the bug with my findings01:55
ToeSnacksthanks01:55
TJ-ToeSnacks: I've subscribed to that bug now01:55
wldcordeiroHmm it seems openvpn is very broken upon inspection post update to 16.04 for me. :/01:55
TJ-wldcordeiro: have you determined what is going wrong? is it a simple 'permission denied' copying the file, or a parse error reading the config file (check /var/log/syslog)01:56
TJ-wldcordeiro: I think it'll be in network-manager-openvpn if it is a parse error01:56
TJ-wldcordeiro: pretty sure I dealt with a bug like that sometime in the last 6 months, rings a bell01:56
wldcordeiroTJ-: So from the UI I got that bug but in the terminal if I do sudo openvpn path/to/config/config.ovpn it fails with01:57
wldcordeiroFailed to try-restart nscd.service: Unit nscd.service not found.01:58
alui cant connect to ethernet when i boot ubuntu01:58
alufresh install of 14.04 https://u.teknik.io/ZOBxJ.png01:58
alui get ACPI Error01:58
TJ-wldcordeiro: ahh, yes, and I published a patched version. See https://launchpad.net/~tj/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+packages01:58
wldcordeiroalu problably uefi safeboot or whatever. Had the same problem today.01:58
pierpaolociao01:59
TJ-wldcordeiro: well that issue is simply you don't have the ncsd service installed then01:59
aluuefi safeboot? ehhh01:59
aluhow do i turn off thisfeature, i have uefi on ubuntu01:59
etzerdhello all01:59
etzerd?01:59
TJ-!info nscd | wldcordeiro02:00
ubottuwldcordeiro: nscd (source: glibc): GNU C Library: Name Service Cache Daemon. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.23-0ubuntu3 (xenial), package size 72 kB, installed size 393 kB02:00
etzerdthe grub menu is not loading when I boot on windows 1002:00
pierpaolo#list02:00
h3ctichi, just upgraded to ubuntu 16.0402:00
h3ctictry to install php5.6-fpm02:00
h3cticbut now I've got the service loaded but inactived..02:01
wldcordeiroTJ what about unbounded.service? Is that just apt-get unbounded? nscd was pretty easy to find heh02:01
TJ-alu: which release image of 14.04 did you use? is it the latest 14.04.4 ?02:01
h3cticanyone has any idea?02:01
aluyeah its 14.04.202:01
TJ-alu: that looks like you've got an older kernel on very new hardware, and the kernel doesn't know how to handle some bits02:01
aluthe kernel is older02:01
TJ-alu: I'd recommend trying with the 14.04.4 ISO02:01
aluit has what kernel?02:02
TJ-alu: the kernel from wily, 4.202:02
TJ-(i think that's correct)02:02
alutheres no 14.04.4 for ubuntu mate02:02
gmsup everyone02:03
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TJ-alu: this is it http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.04.4/02:03
aluthats unity?02:04
inocuoushello everyone. I have a question concerning system notifications balloons, they get stuffed into a buffer in ubuntu 14, is there a utility or an adjustment to change how this works?02:04
TJ-oh, you meant "Ubuntu Mate" not "ubuntu, mate" :)02:04
aluyeah lol02:04
SuperBawlzHey, anyone know how to get my workstation to stop booting up the the login with the main monitor set to secondary.02:04
TJ-alu: there is no 14.04 for "Ubuntu Mate"02:04
SuperBawlzThere is only one monitor and it keeps making it secondary02:05
TJ-alu: you can install that, then do "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-mate-desktop"02:05
voidDotClassTJ-, $vt_handoff is present in the options02:05
TJ-SuperBawlz: that's based on the GPU's ordering of the connectors, one is primary, and it'll adopt that at boot-time02:05
voidDotClassbut it still doesn't accept my input on the passphrase screen02:06
aluget ubuntu server then?02:06
TJ-voidDotClass: OK, so try using the Alt+F1 Alt+F7 trick to force focus to change and change bac02:06
voidDotClassTJ-, what is that trick?02:06
SuperBawlzTJ- it doesn't though. I have moved my cable physically and it just changes it. The other thing, why does it think that there are two monitors when there is only one?02:06
TJ-alu: you could do, or do a debootstrap of ubuntu-minimal from the Live ISO boot02:07
TJ-SuperBawlz: that sounds like the GPU/driver are getting confused then. Check /var/log/Xorg.0.log02:07
TJ-voidDotClass: pressing those key combinations to change to a different VT and back again, if it is the input-focus-is-on-wrong-VT then that'll force it back to the GUI02:08
TJ-voidDotClass: if it isn't that then we can only assume the input device you're using hasn't got its drivers loaded02:08
voidDotClassTJ-, this seems related to the nvidia display drivers, it works when i dont have the nvidia drivers, stops working once i install those drivers02:09
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TJ-voidDotClass: that is worth reporting a bug then. That prompt occurs from the initial ramdisk when no GPU drivers should have been loaded02:10
TJ-voidDotClass: within the initrd.img, scripts/local-top/cryptroot runs, then it asks plymouth to ask you for the passphrase. plymouth uses that vt.handoff value to work on the correct GUI VT02:11
TJ-voidDotClass: hmmm... and now this jogs my memory... i think a few years ago this bug was fixed02:11
voidDotClassTJ-, and?02:11
voidDotClassit doesnt seem to have been  fixed02:12
etzerdthe grub menu is not loaded when I boot the computer. can anyone help02:12
TJ-voidDotClass: ahhh, it was in 2010 and not quite the same as yours, although it was nvidia + plymouth (no enter key working) bug 55266002:15
ubottubug 552660 in plymouth (Ubuntu) "Plymouth prevents busybox accepting Enter key" [Low,Expired] https://launchpad.net/bugs/55266002:15
voidDotClasslooks like it expired? TJ-02:16
TJ-yes, I don't think I ever needed to resolve the reason since a newer version of plymouth solved it02:17
TJ-voidDotClass: but your symptoms are interestingly similar02:17
TJ-voidDotClass: do the Alt+F1 etc work, because that proves the keyboard is working so we can eliminate missing drivers02:17
voidDotClassTJ-, nothing happened on alt f1 and i'm just reinstalling now without hd encryption02:18
voidDotClassif i should report it as a bug lemme know02:18
TJ-voidDotClass: so there was no response to the keyboard? that suggests the keyboard drivers were missing, or didn't configure correctly by that point. Is it a USB keyboard?02:19
icecube45_anyone have a working radeon 16.04 desktop?02:20
voidDotClassTJ-, no, internal, and keyboard works fine all the time except when i install nvidia drivers and go to the hd unencrypt screen02:20
voidDotClassis alt + f1 even supposed to work on that screen02:20
voidDotClassalt + f1 is only once you are logged on02:20
arshadHello everyone, my laptop only boots at acpi=off parameter. This hides the battery icons and battery management things. How do I go around this problem?02:20
TJ-voidDotClass: Yes, it's a core service by the kernel. For X and the GUI you're thinking of Ctrl+Alt+F1 etc02:21
voidDotClassTJ-, oh, i had tried ctrl + alt + f102:22
voidDotClassi got them confused02:22
TJ-voidDotClass: aha :)02:22
voidDotClassTJ-, i'm now reinstalling without the hd encryption02:22
voidDotClassso i cant go back and test02:22
TJ-voidDotClass: you can boot a linux system and use all the VTs by switching using Alt+Fx02:22
sailendrahello there, i am trying to extend my root partition but not able to, any help02:23
TJ-voidDotClass: OK, well, it would be interesting to find out if the keyboard works at that point. Once you have it installed, do a boot where you go into the GRUB menu... edit the boot entry and add to the "linux ..." line "break=init" and then press F10 (Ctlr+X) and that will drop you to the (initramfs) shell prompt - see if you have keyboard input02:24
voidDotClassTJ-, sorry, i'm not interested in fucking w/ my system anymore. if i can do a bug report without changing any settings, lemme know02:25
TJ-voidDotClass: if no input then we know its a general keyboard driver issue02:25
voidDotClassTJ-, why would a keyboard driver issue show up only w/ nvidia drivers and only on that screen02:25
TJ-voidDotClass: I'm not asking you to change settings; just do a boot test with alternative options, its a one off02:25
voidDotClassit works fine after booting into ubuntu02:25
voidDotClassall right TJ-02:25
voidDotClassi'll try that02:25
TJ-voidDotClass: well it would, because once the initd has handed over to the system init daemon that will load all required drivers, at which point that may include the drivers required for the keyboard02:26
sailendrathere are two partition /dev/sda1 and /dev/sda2 sda1 is primary one, i tried to delete sda2 then tried resize2fs /dev/sda2 but no success in increase my primary partition size02:26
TJ-voidDotClass: if there's some kind of nvidia interaction causing this, that would also be useful to know about02:26
TJ-sailendra: if you've deleted /dev/sda2 you cannot then resize it. sounds like what you need to do is extend /dev/sda1 to use the space freed by deleting sda2. You could do that with gparted. After that you can "resize2fs /dev/sda1" and it'll use the new space02:28
heshamhi02:28
TJ-voidDotClass: good luck with that; way past my bedtime here so I'm off02:29
sailendraTJ-: sorry my mistake i did resize2fs /dev/sda1 but it shows message that block is already x block long nad nothing to do02:29
MannyLNJQuestion df -h hows /dev/sda6 as 100% full how do I see what is being used on it. I am connecting over ssh02:29
TJ-MannyLNJ: "du -d 2 /path/to/mountpoint | sort -n" will list the first 2 levels of directories sorted by size02:30
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sailendraTJ-: i am trying to extend my root parition but its not working02:33
arshad my laptop only boots at acpi=off parameter. This hides the battery icons and battery management things. How do I go around this problem?02:33
MannyLNJTJ-, thanks I think it is hung it printed one Permission denied and then stopped. No shell prompt shows02:33
TJ-arshad: don't disable ACPI; try to find some lesser set of ACPI option changes that will help it boot.02:33
TJ-MannyLNJ: if its a large file-system it could take a long time, it has to read every directory and file metadata block02:34
MannyLNJTJ-, I see, I will continue to wait02:34
TJ-MannyLNJ: or you could start another ssh session and check if that first du process is stuck :D02:35
MannyLNJTJ-, You were correct. it finished. i have mo idea what I am looking at though02:35
TJ-MannyLNJ: you're looking at a directory listing, with the bytes used in the left column, sorted by size. that allows you to explore the directories that use the most space02:36
TJ-MannyLNJ: e.g. say the last line says "2500000000 /var/cache/" you could explore that directory with "/du -d 2 /var/cache | sort -n" to identify which directories under it use the most. Repeat that process for exploring further and locating files that can be deleted02:37
MannyLNJTJ-, Ok it lookes like /media/emanuel uses the most space under /media/emanuel there is TOSHIBA EXT and USB_HDD_01 I see accourding to mount /deb/sdb1 is mounted at /media/emanuel/TOSHIBA EXT so i guess I need to look at TOSHIA EXT?02:39
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sailendraany help :)02:40
effectnethello in here02:51
effectnetour out there, whatever02:51
effectnethmm cant get 16.04 to install on this asus laptop02:53
effectnetstuck at 'preparing to install Ubuntu'02:53
effectneti wonder if a network install would work?02:54
sysmanHi, everybody!!!02:54
sysmansomebody has config the ubuntu mate 16.04 for vmware workstation 11 @ windows 10 pro x64, I can't paste y drag & drop files from windows 10 to virtual machine02:56
effectnetthis asus laptop has been difficult02:56
Loshkieffectnet: You might have better luck with 14.04.4. Not quite so new out of the box...02:57
effectnetwow02:57
effectnetok02:57
davidoThere is an #ubuntu-mate channel.02:58
sysmanthanks davido!!!02:58
Loshkisysman: also check vmware forums. Lots of info there03:00
MannyLNJDumb question how do I copy a file if I don't have FTP but I can SSH in?03:00
h3cticsftp..03:00
Shi03:00
LoshkiMannyLNJ: if you can ssh, you can usually also scp, or sftp.03:00
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h3cticnever ftp, not safe...03:01
Guest6901who is use backbox ?03:01
MannyLNJLoshki, thanks I didn't understand that03:01
Bashing-om!ba03:02
Bashing-omckb03:02
LoshkiMannyLNJ: ok, what file do you want to copy, from where to where?03:02
h3cticMannyLNJ, try sftp..03:02
Guest6901hi03:02
h3cticit use same port as ssh..03:02
Bashing-om!backbox |03:02
ubottu: Backbox Linux is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu and is thus not supported in #ubuntu. Please use #backbox on irc.autistici.org or https://forum.backbox.org/ for help with it.03:02
Guest6901ow sorry"03:03
zykotick9MannyLNJ: "scp /file/on/local remoteIPorURL:/path/on/remote"  note, remoteIPorULT:filename.txt would be the user's home directory03:08
zykotick9MannyLNJ: <sidenote> if you have ssh keys setup, you can even use tab completion on the remote system03:10
effectnetshoot i tried the 14.04.4 image and grub is up on the screen heh03:10
effectnetdo i want uefi booting off of the usb?03:10
effectneti wonder why grub comes up03:13
MannyLNJzykotick9, thanks03:13
davidmichaelkarrI just tried to create a 16.40 vbox vm, and at restart it seems to stop, saying: "SMBus base address uninitialized - upgrade BIOS or use force_addr=0xaddr", then "intel_rapi: no valid repl domains found in package 0" (last message again).  It's now been sitting there unchanged for a few minutes now.03:14
davidmichaelkarrSorry, 16.04.03:14
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Loshkieffectnet: booting 14.04.4 with uefi via usb *is* supported, I think I've done that very installation. If you got as far as grub, booting per se isn't the problem. Wish I knew what was...03:19
effectnethmm k i did get it to boot a few times03:22
effectneti'll use rufus this time03:24
riziguys i have a strange problem,  My vlc can't play video files it can play mp3 file03:25
icecube45i'm going to have to ask for some ubuntu wizards to help me out: I upgraded to 16.04, and now I can't get to my desktop, if I attempt to login, the screen shows the background, then brings me back to the login menu03:26
Guest6901@rizi try to update03:26
Guest6901or maybe you have problem with codec03:27
riziGuest6901, update lunix or vlc03:27
effectnetthis is/was a nice asus laptop03:27
riziGuest6901, i tried reinstalling vlc still there is probelm03:27
riziGuest6901, i am guessing its a problem with one of dependences how can i check03:28
Guest6901try with other video03:28
Guest6901maybe error from your video03:28
riziGuest6901,  any video03:28
vlouvetrizi run vlc from command line, it will display any errors in the terminal03:29
riziGuest6901,  regardless of video codec03:29
Guest6901try vlouvet advice03:30
riziGuest6901,  its not showing any error i will past it.03:30
effectneti wonder if i should not activate the wifi during install03:31
riziGuest6901,  http://paste.ubuntu.com/16059236/03:31
Guest6901before your vlc be error, what are you doing ? sorry my bad english03:32
vlouvetrizi, did you do "vlc --verbose filename.mp4" without quotes?03:33
rizivlouvet, let me try03:33
vlouvetrizi, replace filename.mp4 with the name and extension of your file03:34
effectneti wonder what's happening when it's stuck at 'preparing to install Ubuntu'03:37
jesuslovesyouthiHas anyone ever seen anything like this? Google got hacked! http://imgur.com/imlZzL903:39
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rizivlouvet, Guest6901 http://paste.ubuntu.com/16059267/03:40
vlouvetjesuslovesyouthi, it could be a MiTM attack against you instead of Google03:40
vlouvetrizi, the file name is invalid, rename it03:41
rizivlouvet, okay03:41
jesuslovesyouthivlouvet: oh, my bad. I found out it's something to do with this jack in the box wifi and entering a search term before going through the steps to connect.03:42
jesuslovesyouthiDoes look aweful funny though eh?03:42
vlouvetjesuslovesyouthi, If I was an un-assuming internet user it would scare the crap out of me03:42
jesuslovesyouthilol03:42
effectnetgosh i didn't think i wouldn't get it installed03:43
rizivlouvet, http://paste.ubuntu.com/16059287/03:44
rizivlouvet, it still hanged03:44
Bray90820Is there a way to find a PID of a running aoo03:45
Bray90820app03:45
Guest6901Bray90820 type ps03:45
vlouvetrizi, can you take a picture of your video settings in VLC and pastebin it?03:46
rizivlouvet, okay one min, i never uploaded picture03:47
Guest6901just remove and install again your vlc, maybe work xixixi03:47
vlouvetrizi, my guess is that the VDPAU driver is not working for you and you need to reset your video settings to default and see if it works03:47
Bray90820Guest6901: Thanks03:47
Guest6901Bray90820 okay03:47
vlouvetrizi, one thing that I would try is to start vlc with --nooverlay option so that you disable hardware overlay, if that doesn't work change your video output to something other than VDPAU03:49
rizivlouvet, okay so i reset the setting but problem still exist but now when i go media to open file it gave some error on consol i will paste them03:50
rizivlouvet, http://paste.ubuntu.com/16059311/03:50
vlouvetrizi, what does your settings show on this page http://imgur.com/nYLN4ZL03:54
vlouvetrizi, it may not be too soon to try a complete re-installation of vlc. try "sudo apt-get remove --purge vlc" then "sudo apt-get install vlc"03:55
akhilHi all. Anyone has a resume from suspend problem on inspiron laptops? If i move the laptop in a bag for a bit, it fails to resume.03:56
TJ-akhil: are you sure it isn't resuming in your bag, then shutting down ?03:58
akhilTJ-: Nope. I can see the status light blinking.04:01
akhilTJ-: I checked the DMESG. For successful resumes, i see the S3 tag in the kern.log. Otherwise, the last message during suspend would be the network manager sleeping.04:02
etzerdcan someone please help me here04:02
etzerdthe grub menu is not loaded when I start the computer. it went right to windows instead of giving me the option to choose which OS to use. please help04:03
vlouvetwhen booting the computer, hitting shift repeatedly should bring up the grub menu04:05
akhilTJ-: http://pastebin.com/w8fS50Cz this might give you an idea of what i am trying to say.04:06
effectnetwoudl it help if i installed off of a dvd?  i have an external drive04:07
effectnethmmm04:07
rizivlouvet, i lost net connection04:07
donofriolubuntu-16.04-alternate-powerpc working great on my ibook g4 but if anyone has any url's about getting sound, wifi, video 3d(ati) working on my hardware http://apaste.info/cUs04:08
vlouvetrizi, is your video output set to vdpau?04:08
rizivlouvet, not its set to auto04:09
rizivlouvet, but now after install it says this "[00007f2350c25458] avcodec decoder: Using Intel i965 driver for Intel(R) Sandybridge Mobile - 1.7.0 for hardware decoding.04:10
rizi"04:10
vlouvetrizi, =) there we go! does it still crash?04:10
TJ-akhil: so there's 1 big difference there. the power-on time. It could be that after running some process, or after some period of time, the system gets in a weird state that causes the failure. have you tried booting it clean, don't log in, leave it for a long while then shut the lid to force a suspend, and see if the time-since-boot is an issue.04:10
voyager_hi all04:11
voyager_mate or unity?04:11
vlouvetmate04:11
voyager_))04:11
TJ-akhil: then do the opposite test. boot it clean, log-in, run lots of the programs you'd norlamlly run in a regular session, but do it quickly, so they've all run/are running, then try a suspend04:11
voyager_3 years support04:12
rizivlouvet, yes04:12
voyager_unity 5 years04:12
akhilTJ-: I have done that. In fact i went through my usual workload last night and left it on suspend overnight (without the charger plugged in). It resumed without a problem. If i move from one place to elsewhere carrying the laptop in a bag it seems to be a problem. The weird thing is, on 15.10 it was fine.04:13
TJ-akhil: loose connection!04:14
rizivlouvet, what does this error mean04:14
akhilTJ-: I also cycled through back to back suspend resume routines.04:14
TJ-akhil: my partner used to find problems when he took his laptop around in his backpack in uni, turned out there was loads of humidty collecting inside it and the laptop04:14
akhilTJ-: I had this problem once on fedora 23, but it did not show itself after a while.04:15
akhilTJ-: I am now wondering if this had anything to do with it. Apr 26 03:40:38 techalien kernel: [  966.371700] [drm:r600_ring_test [radeon]] *ERROR* radeon: ring 0 test failed (scratch(0x850C)=0xCAFEDEAD)04:16
akhilApr 26 03:40:38 techalien kernel: [  966.371719] [drm:si_resume [radeon]] *ERROR* si startup failed on resume04:16
TJ-akhil: could it be that 1 suspend/resume works but a subsequent suspend fails?04:17
akhilTJ-: Nope. did 3 consective tests.04:17
TJ-akhil: it's not unknown for the hardware not to be correctly reinitialised on resume, so a subsequent suspend can go all fooey04:17
TJ-akhil: if the bag is the common factor I'd plump for something physical - loose connection, something metallic loose inside shorting out, or humidity. That log shows there was an uncommanded unexpected power-off04:18
akhilI have had suspend freeze problems on the 4.4 kernel. So i updated to kernel 4.5.2. Now suspend works as long as the laptop is stationary. Sigh. The closest i came across a similar problem was http://askubuntu.com/questions/699957/laptop-sometimes-cannot-wake-up-from-suspend04:18
glassdoes anyone know the ubuntu mate channel name off top of thier head?04:18
daxglass: #ubuntu-mate04:20
akhilTJ-: I will do the suspend resume again and see if the same gap is creeping in. Will paste the log in a few.04:21
akhilTJ-: http://pastebin.com/FNJQH6hd04:23
TJ-akhil: does the laptop have a spinning disk?04:24
akhilTJ-: I think the gap is because the log is written upon resume and not during the suspend. Its approx the amount of time i waited before resuming from suspend. Question: Yes i have a normal HDD.04:25
TJ-akhil: i still think its physical, if you can only reproduce when the laptop has been in a bag and knocked around a bit04:26
akhilTJ-: SMART data checks out fine. In any case, suspend uses the RAM only right? :: The kern.log stops at the "Network Manager is now ASLEEP" state if resume fails.04:28
akhilTJ-: I did shake the laptop around vigorously. But the error shows up only if moved "naturally"04:30
jajajahow can i get info about touchpad device04:31
e^1ubuntu support zfs out of the box with new LTS release ?04:34
OERIASEvery update to a new release, whether it is a regular release or an LTS, it sure seems to screw up04:35
bcardarellawhere would upstart scripts be?04:36
bcardarellaif I were looking for them04:36
towlieis there a way to force an application to open on a specific desktop window. Some applications are opening on my secondary monitor but I want them to open on my primary monitor04:43
virtual_晕, 这是聊天室啊04:44
virtual_我还以为是IM客户端呢,04:44
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user123irchello jus installed ubunt - where I can firnd software center ?04:53
sebsebsebuser123irc: an icon on left or a search for it04:55
user123ircubuntu software ?04:55
user123ircist an emty04:55
user123irchow to fix it ?04:55
user123ircwhat server for software updates should be choosen ?04:57
sebsebsebuser123irc: your country server04:59
sebsebsebuser123irc: make sure all that is enabled and should work04:59
user123ircsebsebseb:  no aplication dat found05:02
user123ircno categories nothing...05:03
user123ircalso cannot open an BIN file05:12
sonicdissonanzhello everybody05:13
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sebsebsebuser123irc: BIN file for what05:16
user123ircgenymotion  android emulator install05:17
sebsebsebuser123irc: right click05:17
sebsebsebuser123irc: properties tell it to be able to use as an executable file05:17
sebsebseband will need some command to install as well probably not sure what05:17
user123ircit says select app to install file05:19
user123ircwich app to choose ?05:19
h3cticanyone upgrade ubuntu to 16.04 and install php-fpm?05:21
h3cticmy one keep unactive after I copied the old configuration into the new one..05:22
phabletis there a better channel  for ubuntu /  bq  Aquarius M10 tablet? BT mouse wont work..05:30
NoOovaHi guys!05:30
robotdevil1ok still trying to understand this UEFI thing05:31
xangua!touch |   phablet05:31
ubottuphablet: Information about the Ubuntu Touch platform for Phone and Tablet is available here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch . Support and discussion in #ubuntu-touch05:31
sonicdissonanzNoOova: Hello !05:31
NoOovaHow to understand control character specification: "^[^_"05:32
NoOovaFirst ^ is Control, next [ is Alt?05:32
robotdevil1so is it pertinent that ubuntu be installed installed in UEFI mode if windows was??05:32
robotdevil1I am trying to dual boot windows 10 and ubuntu 14.0405:33
robotdevil1I have ubuntu installed and can select it to boot if I press f9 and select ubuntu loader instead of the microsoft one05:35
robotdevil1but as soon as I restart then its back into the windows loop05:35
robotdevil1so its there but instead of installing to MBR should I have installed to EFI partiton or something?05:37
robotdevil1there seems to be no way to just select ubuntu loader for the default05:38
Rhorserobotdevil1: If you intall to MBR, you have to make sure your box can boot in Bios as opposed to UEFI mode. There should be a menu selection in the bios to effect this.05:38
robotdevil1Rhorse: doesnt seem to have one05:39
robotdevil1isnt there a little gui program that can fix the bootloader issue?05:40
robotdevil1think it was called boot repair or something05:40
Rhorserobotdevil1: in that case follow the handbook for UEFI/GPT. Of course you can always use a Grub boot disk to locate your kernel and boot it, no matter what bootloader you choose to install....05:41
robotdevil1Rhorse: right05:42
Rhorse...assuming your box can be made to boot from the USB or CD Rom drive...05:42
robotdevil1yep05:42
robotdevil1but I dont want a usb boot all the time05:43
Nilesh_I installed libqt5multimedia* package on ubuntu, but i dont get libQt5Multimedia.so.5.2.1 ...perhaps /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libQt5Multimedia.s symlink points to the lib ? Am i missing something ? is this the right channel to ask thi qu05:43
robotdevil1should I just have installed grub somewhere else?05:43
Rhorserobotdevil1: I think you can change around the default boot order by messing around in /etc/default/grub05:46
robotdevil1ok but it is always hitting the windows loader when the computer boots05:47
robotdevil1instead of grub05:47
Rhorseright, because grub is automatically chainloading it by default. I _think_ that can be changed so that a menu always comes up.05:48
robotdevil1oh05:51
robotdevil1see i thought it was due to GPT partition05:52
kris__use grub recovery05:52
robotdevil1kris__: how05:53
kris__with usb boot05:53
kris__boot repair disk05:54
kris__iso file on boot flsah usb stick05:54
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robotdevil1i have the usb stick installer still05:55
kris__download boot-repair-disk-64bit.iso and write on boobtable usb try05:58
robotdevil1oh i see05:59
robotdevil1isnt there an efi partiton I can write grub to or something06:00
z999how do i disable the adblocker in firefox?06:04
z999i tried to refresh it, remove any software i installed but i still get the adblocker is in installed06:04
trijntjez999: where do you 'get' this exactly?06:05
z999trijntje, when i try to view cbs news06:05
Wulfz999: why do you want ads?06:05
z999wulf, it won't let me see the videos06:06
trijntjez999: cbs news is probably confused by the fact you dont have flash installed06:06
z999trijntje, what do i do?06:06
Wulfz999: can you send me an URL of such a video?06:06
z999ok06:06
trijntjez999: install flashplugin-nonfree06:07
Wulfdon't06:07
Wulfflash is a security hazard06:07
trijntjemeh06:07
z999http://www.cbsnews.com/videos/424-sanders-kasich-salvanto/06:07
z999i keep getting the message "disable ad"06:07
Wulfz999: $ youtube-dl http://www.cbsnews.com/videos/424-sanders-kasich-salvanto/   works like a charm.06:08
z999wulf not to me06:08
Wulfz999: did you read the "youtube-dl" part?06:08
Wulfjeez, now I have to watch this jackass06:09
lotuspsychje!language | Wulf06:09
ubottuWulf: The main Ubuntu channels require that you speak in calm, polite English. For other languages, please visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList06:09
Wulflotuspsychje: may I say "Trump" or is that foul language too?06:09
lotuspsychjeWulf: lets not offtopic and keep polite in this channel06:10
SachiruQuery: Are there any definitive guides on how to dual-boot Ubuntu 14.04 and 16.04 out there?06:12
z999i tried to install no flash06:12
WulfSachiru: install both, configure grub so it can boot both06:12
z999didn't work06:12
Wulfz999: just use youtube-dl, it's the best06:12
z999i still get the block message06:13
z999how wulf?06:13
lotuspsychjeSachiru: yeah, you can install ubuntu versions 'next' to each other06:13
Wulfz999: youtube-dl <url>06:13
Wulfz999: in the shell06:13
Wulfz999: and then use your favourite video player watch your video06:13
SachiruThey have to reside on different partitions, right? Is there like a page or something?06:14
lotuspsychjeSachiru: the ubuntu installer will guide you06:14
WulfSachiru: yes, different partitions. Not sure about a guide06:14
WulfSachiru: /boot could be shared06:14
SachiruThanks. Is there a way to install 16.04 within 14.04? So that I no longer need to boot into a liveCD or something?06:14
z999wulf i don't know how to do that06:15
Wulfz999: huh? You don't know how to open a shell or terminal?06:15
lotuspsychjeSachiru: not within, but 'next to', just use your 16.04 usb and ubuntu will ask you what to do06:16
z999i know how to open a terminal06:16
z999you said shell06:16
Wulfz999: which is kind of the same06:16
SachiruThe situation is this: Right now my NAS box is running 14.04 on ZFS root. I wish to install 16.04 without having to reboot from 14.04 (so that the kids won't complain about no movies).06:16
SachiruMy plan is to create an alternative dataset and install 16.04 on there.06:16
SachiruThen configure grub to display both as boot options (to test 16.04 stability, with the goal being eventual migration to 16.04).06:17
lotuspsychjeSachiru: not possible to run 16.04 and 14.04 togheter without a reboot06:17
lotuspsychjeSachiru: you can install a 16.04 virtual machine on your 14.04 box if you like06:18
[diablo]Good morning #ubuntu ... erm, guys where the hell has XChat gone? This XChat-GNOME is erm, poop06:18
lotuspsychje[diablo]: xchat is no longer maintained well06:18
trijntjeSachiru: why not take a snapshot, upgrade 14.04 to 16.04, and revert the snapshot if there are problems?06:18
lotuspsychje[diablo]: use hexchat instead as alternative06:19
SachiruThat can work, trijntje.06:19
[diablo]oh ok06:19
[diablo]wow, I'm shocked, I've used xchat for over a decade I guess06:19
SachiruOr probably I can snapshot 14.04, clone the snapshot to a new dataset, chroot to the dataset, do the upgrade, add the new dataset to grub entries, then reboot?06:19
SachiruThat way is less disruptive I think?06:19
lotuspsychje[diablo]: its still supported in repos, but you will find more benefits with hexchat :p06:19
Sachiru[diablo]: Try hexchat.06:20
[diablo]Cool cheers lotuspsychje I'll give it a whirl06:20
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[diablo]installing, brb06:20
nils_Sachiru, I'm just thinking, don't you have to set the bootfs property on a per pool basis?06:22
Sachirunils_: Not really, no.06:22
SachiruMy current setup is with a pool named rootPool06:23
SachiruUbuntu 14.04 is installed into rootPool/ROOT/ubuntu06:23
[diablo]sweet thats better looking06:23
nils_Sachiru, well then, the chroot thing could work but it may still impact the running system since you'll likely have to bind mount /dev, /proc etc.06:23
SachiruI can clone that into rootPool/ROOT/Xenial06:23
SachiruSo hmm, chroot won't work then?06:24
ubuntu881Hello, i have just installed ubuntu 16.04 but ufw do not enable at startup06:24
Sachiruubuntu881: have you tried running "sudo ufw enable"?06:24
trijntjez999: did you install flashplugin-nonfree?06:25
ubuntu881Yes but didn't work06:25
Guido1I want to print on a printer conected to an XP computer, but I have to enter a username and pasword. If I want to acces a shared folder I just get the message that I'm not autorised.06:25
trijntjedid you restart firefox afterwards z999?06:25
z999where do i find it?06:25
nils_Sachiru, I have never tried that actually. Do you have a separate fs for /var?06:25
Sachiruubuntu881: what was the error message?06:25
Sachirunils_: No. Everything resides on rootPool/ROOT/ubuntu06:26
trijntjez999: so you didn't install flashplugin-nonfree? Please be exact06:26
SachiruThat makes it easy to clone and rollback.06:26
nils_Sachiru, there may also be an issue if you're running a database like postgres or MySQL since the data files will diverge when you clone.06:26
SachiruNope, no databases on this box.06:26
zanzabarCan anyone help me with this issue? https://www.reddit.com/r/RetroPie/comments/4gbmig/retropie_plexmediaserver/ Not sure what direction to go in from here.06:26
SachiruOnly samba and KVM.06:26
SachiruOh, and netdata for monitoring.06:27
nils_KVM using zvols as backing store? ;)06:27
ubuntu881What error message?06:27
SachiruYes.06:28
nils_I think you can try it on the clone, worst that could happen is that you have to discard the clone and reboot to a clean state.06:28
zanzabarI thought I might try to build PlexMedia server from source but not sure if that would help or not as I am not sure what the error is here, or what the problem is.06:28
z999trijntje, did now. still doesn't work06:28
Sachiruubuntu881: How do you know that ufw is not starting on startup? What message did Ubuntu spit out that lead you to that conclusion?06:28
trijntjez999: did you restart your browser? What browser are you using?06:28
z999firefox06:28
Sachirunils_: Yeah, but the problem is that if I do it in the clone, as you said, I might damage /dev06:29
z999yes restarted browser06:29
streulmaI have the infinit loop with nvidia card on login with 16.04 how can I solve ?06:29
ubuntu881After startup i type sudo ufw status and it is disabled06:29
lotuspsychjestreulma: upgrade or clean install?06:29
streulmaclean06:29
lotuspsychjestreulma: wich card chipset?06:29
nils_Sachiru, yeah, what might happen is that grub is overwritten (if you're using grub) and depending on where your /boot resides that may lead to trouble06:30
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nils_for what it's worth, I upgraded my ZFS (on LUKS) based workstation last night without trouble (15.10 to 16.04 though)06:31
trijntjez999: hmm, I cant get it to play either. Maybe cbs is using silverlight, in which case it wont play on linux06:31
nils_and I just did it with a snapshot06:31
Sachiruubuntu881: and you definitely ran "sudo ufw enable" before rebooting?06:31
Sachirunils_: /boot resides on a different dataset (rootPool/BOOT)06:31
ubuntu881Yes sure06:31
z999trijntje, i tried to play on another browser but it won't play06:32
z999trijntje, not silverlight06:32
nils_Sachiru, hmm alright, I still use an ext4 based /boot...06:32
lotuspsychjez999: disable all your plugins/addons first, your url plays like a charm here06:32
z999lotus, i disable flash?06:33
streulmalotuspsychje: 7300GT Login screen shows06:33
z999lotuspsychje, i tried that 5 times already and it is the same06:33
lotuspsychjez999: no, disable add blockers06:33
Sachirunils_: I did it this way because of the possibility to do beadm-style boot environments, once grub fully supports ZFS and LUA scripting06:33
z999i don't have adblockers06:33
lotuspsychjestreulma: try to get in desktop with nomodeset perhaps?06:33
SachiruLUA script in grub.cfg to enumerate snapshots, then another script to clone a snapshot and boot into the clone = instant boot environment06:34
z999brb restarting computer06:34
lotuspsychjez999: create another user and test the video from FF06:34
nils_Sachiru, yeah that would be pretty sweet.06:34
brianxis it possible to get a more traditional window decoration under unity?  all the themes i've found so far put a shadow around the window instead of a boarder.  shadows don't work well with VNC over low bandwidth connections.06:35
SachiruThe ability to snapshot, upgrade and test, then do "sudo zfs promote <pool>/ROOT/currentBE" when it succeeds, and simply reboot when it fails, is a godsend for testing.06:35
cdiddapt just downloaded packages on its own. I ctr;06:35
lotuspsychjebrianx: you can tweak stuff with ccsm perhaps?06:35
cdiddctrl-C the command, but the packages were downloaded into cache anyway. What's going on?06:36
brianxlotuspsychje: any hint as to where in ccsm?  i've been playing in there for a few hours and haven't found it.06:36
lotuspsychjebrianx: not sure where exactly, there is also unity-tweak-tool if you like06:37
z999doesn't work06:37
z999doesn't work06:37
lotuspsychjez999: tested on another user?06:37
zanzabarCan anyone point me in the right direction for attempting to compile PlexMediaServer from source? Trying to fix these errors https://www.reddit.com/r/RetroPie/comments/4gbmig/retropie_plexmediaserver/06:37
lotuspsychjezanzabar: your on ubuntu server?06:37
brianxlotuspsychje: unity tweak is pretty simple, i've been through all of the options there, no joy.06:37
lotuspsychjebrianx: ok, perhaps ccsm play then?06:38
Wulfzanzabar: find out which URL this is trying to fetch06:38
brianxlotuspsychje: "ccsm play"  not sure what that is.06:38
zanzabarlotuspsychje: I am on a retropie machine which is based off of debian which is the same as ubuntu right?06:38
Wulfzanzabar: Downloading readynas package ...06:38
Wulfcurl: (60) SSL certificate problem: unable to get local issuer certificate06:38
trijntjebrianx: do you really want to use the unity interface? You could install an alternative, minimalist desktop environment for VNC06:38
z999lotuspsychje, tried another user. doesn't work06:38
lotuspsychje!info compizconfig-settings-manager | brianx try this :p06:39
ubottubrianx try this :p: compizconfig-settings-manager (source: compiz): Compiz configuration settings manager. In component universe, is extra. Version 1:0.9.12.2+16.04.20160415-0ubuntu1 (xenial), package size 562 kB, installed size 4486 kB06:39
lotuspsychjezanzabar: we only support ubuntu here sorry06:39
zanzabarWulf: not sure I follow, should I manually install readynas and then try to install again06:39
zanzabarlotuspsychje: gotcha I thought it was all similar/connected my bad.06:40
brianxisn't compizconfig-settings-manager ccsm?  pretty sure that's what i'm using.06:40
lotuspsychjebrianx: correct06:40
Wulfzanzabar: would be another option, but I'd first try to understand the problem06:40
z999trijntje, maybe is the video drivers?06:40
lotuspsychjezanzabar: perhaps #debian or more specific channel?06:40
zanzabarlotuspsychje: that might be a good idea, I will head out thanks.06:41
lotuspsychjez999: can you play vlc movies?06:41
brianxtrijntje: i'd rather stick to one window manager and avoid getting away from the main distro option.06:41
z999link me something and i will tell you06:41
zanzabarWulf: thanks I do need to figure out the problem before I solve it but not sure what the problem is or how to figure out what the problem is06:41
brianxshouldn't changing the decorations be easy?06:41
lotuspsychjebrianx: did you check ccsm/unity plugin ?06:42
Ascavasaionhow do I doa  distribution upgrade... i see 16 is out.  I am on 14.  I tried sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get dist-upgrade... but it did nothing.06:43
lotuspsychje!ltsupgrade | Ascavasaion06:43
ubottuAscavasaion: Users of 14.04 LTS will be offered the automatic upgrade when 16.04.1 LTS is released, which is scheduled for July 21st.06:43
brianxlotuspsychje: yes, all 5 tabs.  i can set a solid shadow but that's about my only choice.06:43
Ascavasaionlotuspsychje: Aaaah, thank you so much. So I must just be patient.06:44
__ravenhi06:44
lotuspsychjeAscavasaion: if you want it the 'safer' LTS way yes, otherwise you can force upgrade or clean install 16.0406:44
__raveni am looking for a (online) tool which is able to process and display about 100mb csv files with interactive graphs (zooming, sliding, ...). any idea?06:44
branantAscavasaion: sudo do-release-upgrade06:44
Ascavasaionbranant: thank you.06:45
ubuntu881Good morning, I've just installed Ubuntu 16.04 but firewall (ufw) not enabled after startup. I enabled it with sudo ufw enable but after startap I type sudo ufw status and it says disabled. Can you help me please?06:46
branantubuntu881: Inactive is the default state.06:47
_maddywhat is the deal with fonts-droid package being removed (or renamed to fonts-droid-fallback)?06:47
ubuntu881yes but I did sudo ufw enable to enable it06:47
dksmw_maddy: they are no longer developed and debian trashed them06:49
ubuntu881it is enabled but after startup I type sudo ufw status and is disabled06:50
_maddydksmw: but I need beautiful fonts for programming, I liked the Droid Sans Mono06:53
branantubuntu881: apparently, your firewall is actually running. Try: sudo iptables --list --verbose06:53
robotdevil1http://paste2.org/ts8pyfzv06:54
branantubuntu881: the status you see as disabled actually refers to the rules set with UFW, not to the firewall06:54
ubuntu881how do you know it is running if it says it is disabled? If I type sudo iptables --list --verbose there is a list06:55
robotdevil1ugh this thing is awful06:55
ubuntu881and how can enable the rules?06:56
branantubuntu881: Install GUFW, graphical frontend should make it much easier.06:56
dksmw_maddy: try to lock it via synaptic or dpkg hold06:56
sara2010hi06:56
ubuntu881I have already done it I enabled it and after startup it says disabled06:57
sara2010any one alive06:57
mikeircHello everybody06:57
sara2010  i m not abble to install google chrome in ubuntu !06:57
trijntjehi mikeirc and sara201006:57
lotuspsychjesara2010: try chromium-browser06:57
robotdevil1sara2010: type get chrome into any web browser06:58
mikeircI'm having problems when extending my screen on projector. Any idea of how to solve that ?06:58
trijntjerobotdevil1, sara2010 that is bad advice, don't install things from outside the ubuntu software center unless there is no other choise06:58
sara2010 chromium-browser   not  a  google chrome !06:58
lotuspsychjesara2010: its the ubuntu alternative for chrome06:59
trijntjesara2010: it is the 'free' version of google chrome, so it uses the same code, but without all the tracking you get with google chrome06:59
sara2010ahan okay thanks  all !07:00
mikeircHi trijntje07:00
sara2010any one  know e-mail  extractor ?07:00
dksmwfor outlook?07:01
Cloudblowhow can I enable java plugin on chrome like firefox? (I mean softlink from library jdk)07:01
hateballCloudblow: You cant, chromium/chrome dropped npapi support07:03
Cloudblowhateball: they have support hembended?07:03
mikeircAny idea for my display problem ?07:03
ubuntu1604Hello, I just installed 16.04!07:04
zjhxmjlhi,everyone!who can give me help?thanks http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=232204807:04
sakusammakko&exit07:04
ubuntu1604I have auto hidden the launcher, but now the launcher won't come bac?07:04
ubuntu1604*back?07:04
trijntjemikeirc: you have to give a lot more details. What are you trying to do, what program are you using, what was the result you got, why is that wrong07:04
lotuspsychjeubuntu1604: do you slide the mouse deep enough to the side?07:04
trijntjeubuntu1604: move your mouse 'outside' of the left part of your monitor, and it will come back. Or hit the windows/super key07:04
hateballCloudblow: I have no idea what you just said07:04
streulmalotuspsychje: Failed to open plugin /usr/bin/gs-plugins-9/libgs_plugin_dg_app_reviews.so07:05
lotuspsychjestreulma: do you know wich driver is active right now?07:05
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Cloudblowhateball: sorry for my english, java plugin is encpsulated into chrome/chromium as plugin?07:05
streulmalotuspsychje 7300GT07:06
lotuspsychjestreulma: the driver, not the card like nouveau or nvidia- ?07:06
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lotuspsychjestreulma: you can check with sudo lshw -C video07:06
mikeircI used to use my computer with projector for my lectures. Since one week now when I want to extend my screen to projector, the screen starts flashing bu if I just want to mirror my screen on projector or display only on the projector, it works07:07
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streulmalotuspsychje nvidia07:07
Guest12711Help, I can't open the Ubuntu launcher from auto hide?07:08
lotuspsychjestreulma: can you try sudo apt purge nivida* and reboot?07:08
zjhxmjlhi,everyone!who can give me some advance?thanks http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=232204807:08
trijntjemikeirc: did anything change in the last week? Did you update/upgrade, did someone change the projector? (I don't know about projectors, but I do know about asking the right questions to get help here)07:08
trijntjeGuest12711: hit the super/windows key07:08
pitiyeis there an app like Lubi , (install linux onto a partition from linux), coz Lubi no longer works !07:09
lotuspsychjestreulma: nvidia07:09
mikeircYes I, I just updated not upgraded07:09
ubuntu881Hello branant, any news about this issue? :)07:10
Guest12711trijntje: thanks, but the windows key doesn't work (must be buggy Windows lol)07:11
lotuspsychjepitiye: wih ubuntu version do you have, and what do you wanna do?07:11
pitiyelotuspsychje: 15.04 , and i want to install 16.04 onto a new partition, without upgrading 15.04, and without using usb key.07:12
lotuspsychjepitiye: 15.04 is end of life mate07:12
mikeircI'm sure that it isn't a hardware problem because I tried with live ubutu and it works07:12
pitiyelotuspsychje: but its still more stable for me :D07:12
lotuspsychje!eolupgrade | pitiye07:13
ubottupitiye: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades07:13
Guest12711Okay, I restored the launcher that was hidden.07:13
lotuspsychjepitiye: upgrade asap for security reasons07:13
Guest12711So, seems to be buggy on 16.04. Auto hide doesn't let the launcher come back.07:13
zjhxmjl_hi,everyone!who can give me help?thanks http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=232204807:13
branantubuntu881: here is a guide for you, it's pretty straight forward. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW07:14
XarkGuest12711: I haven't noticed any problem with auto-hide.  There is an adjustment for "sensitivity" you may want to adjust (for when it reappears).07:15
hateballCloudblow: Yes, the JRE is a plugin that uses npapi. This only works in Firefox07:15
jatin30Hello everyone!07:17
dksmwpitiye: try decompressing the filesystem from ISO into that partition and configuring it07:17
ulhashi07:17
pitiyedksmw:  that sounds good ! , is there any guide for it ?07:18
zjhxmjl_hi,everyone!who can give me help?thanks http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=232204807:18
jatin30I am new to the community and I have been into algorithmic programming from over a year now but open source code looks gibberish to me. I just started using linux. Any suggestions so that I understand and get comfartable with open source?07:19
dksmwhave no idea. here's some info: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Install_from_existing_Linux#Method_B:_Using_the_LiveCD_image07:19
Guest12711Xark: thanks. I did restore it, however when hiding again, the launcher won't come out.07:20
Guest12711Yes, I changed sensitivity from low and high. Not sure what that does really?07:20
ubuntu881ok thanks bye I'll have a look at it07:22
Cloudblowhateball: do you now other location for plugin install than /usr/lib/firefox-addons/plugins or ~/.mozzilla/plugins?07:25
CloudblowOn my workstation I use ppa from webupd8team and i don't find location how it put java plugin07:27
pikapikachuhi, all. I have installed a executable program in my own home directory(/home/usr1), then what is the easiest way to share this program with another usr(usr2)?  (this program was compiled on my own directory, and relied on many shared libraries)07:28
lotuspsychjeCloudblow: contact the maintainer of the ppa, we dont support external ppa's07:30
Cloudblowlotuspsychje: I ask only a general question...07:31
Kartagispikapikachu: change the ownership of the directory to usr1:usr207:31
lucas__hello07:31
ksa_With ubuntu14.04 kickstart auto installation works fine. However, when doing the same for 16.04, it stops and wants a preseed configuration file, but if i just press enter it continues and does everything automatic. Any tips for stopping that? Even tried for a preseed file, but still comes. Last entry in logs is "network-preseed" selected. But network looks fine, so not sure why it stops there.07:34
pikapikachuKartagis: Thanks. But if I have many other users, all want to use this program, what should I do07:34
Kartagispikapikachu: add them all to a common group07:35
Kartagisand make the owner usr1:commonGroup07:35
pikapikachuKartagis: Got it. I will try it out.07:36
effectnetwell hmm i cant get ubuntu installed on this laptop.  i wonder if i deleted the partitions if that would help07:46
streulma_lotuspsychje: as is Unity slow, it boot with nomodeset07:51
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ubuntu1604Yep, definitely a problem. The panel won't show when on autohide.07:53
n3p3nthessWhen I try to update the system, it stays on 0%, looks like I can't connect to the ubuntu archive07:58
n3p3nthessIf I try to ping the (ipv6) ip address next to be.archive.ubuntu.com, I get no response07:58
n3p3nthessPinging Google however does work07:59
PipHow is Ubuntu now?07:59
dksmwPip: buggy08:00
PipOh, shit08:00
WulfPip: at 71.9%08:00
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PipWhat happened?08:00
randoomguyhello, I'm getting error while compiling program (mixxx) from source - twice ERROR:root:Unmet dependency: invalid literal for int() with base 10: 'portable' and then ERROR:root:Build had unmet dependencies. Exiting.08:01
randoomguyI need exactly that version, newer version doesn't work good on my hw.. any idea?08:01
dksmwrandoomguy: and what was in the previous line?08:04
lotuspsychje!latest | randoomguy08:05
ubotturandoomguy: Packages in Ubuntu may not be the latest. Ubuntu aims for stability, so "latest" may not be a good idea. Post-release updates are only considered if they are fixes for security vulnerabilities, high impact bug fixes, or unintrusive bug fixes with substantial benefit. See also !backports, !sru, and !ppa.08:05
lotuspsychjerandoomguy: best to stick with package versions, meant for your ubuntu version08:06
lotuspsychjen3p3nthess: did you try a sudo apt-get update?08:08
lotuspsychje!details | effectnet08:09
ubottueffectnet: Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)08:09
randoomguydksmw: Configuring Optimize and Configuring SoundTouch08:11
randoomguydksmw: http://www.mixxx.org/wiki/doku.php/compiling_on_linux08:14
n3p3nthesslotuspsychje: yes, getting the same result: connecting to ...., stuck at 0%08:15
n3p3nthesslotuspsychje: looks like a ipv6 problem08:17
n3p3nthesslotuspsychje, I can ping to be.archive.ubuntu.com, but ping6 to be.archive.ubuntu.com does not work08:18
lotuspsychjen3p3nthess: can you try a sudo service network-manager restart08:18
brianxlotuspsychje: found something that works somewhat: /usr/share/themes/Ambiance/gtk-3.0/apps/unity.css set -UnityDecoration-extents: 32px 2px 2px 2px;08:19
lotuspsychje!yay | brianx thats a deep tweak :p08:19
ubottubrianx thats a deep tweak :p: Glad you made it! :-)08:19
* oijeeboo yawns08:20
brianxit's unix.  everything *should* be a file.  all this button based wizard stuff is for windows users.08:20
randoomguylotuspsychje: i updated to latest version of mixxx and got problems because of my hardware.. so i need that previous version which is no longer in software manager so I need that previous version08:21
lotuspsychjerandoomguy: wich ubuntu version are you on?08:22
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n3p3nthesslotuspsychje: Still the same08:22
lotuspsychjen3p3nthess: perhaps look in your syslog whats happening? tail -f /var/log/syslog08:23
randoomguylotuspsychje: 12.0408:24
Guest96427HELLO08:24
lotuspsychje!info mixxx precise08:24
ubottumixxx (source: mixxx): Digital Disc Jockey Interface. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.10.0~dfsg0-1build1 (precise), package size 2399 kB, installed size 5404 kB08:24
Guest96427where are you from?08:24
lotuspsychjerandoomguy: wich version do you need?08:24
lotuspsychjeGuest96427: you joined the ubuntu support channel, only for ubuntu support questions08:25
Guest96427backbox 4.5.108:25
n3p3nthesslotuspsychje: nothing shows up in the logs about apt08:26
lotuspsychjen3p3nthess: mess around with network settings a bit now? enable/disable wifi?08:27
n3p3nthesslotuspsychje: weird that I can ping6 www.google.be but not be.archive.ubuntu.com08:27
akisamquit08:28
randoomguylotuspsychje: 1.10.0, I'm using ubuntu based distro - mint exactly, my version is based on 12.0408:28
lotuspsychje!mint | randoomguy not supported here08:29
ubotturandoomguy not supported here: Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org08:29
yoggHi08:29
OerHeksrandoomguy, then you would need to compile yourself, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/trusty/+source/mixxx  i guess dependencies .. wait, mint?08:29
madducksomething starts /usr/bin/syndaemon with parameters I want to change. However, if I grep /etc, ~/.config and /usr/share for syndaemon, I get no hits. How is this thing started?08:31
madduck(why is this getting so intransparent?? might just as well use windows if I want to configure my computer through guesswork)08:31
yoggI have a strange problem with the "phpmyadmin" package. It debends on "php-gettext" and this package is listed in the "control" file of the "phpmyadmin" package. But if I install "phpmyadmin" the dependency will not be installed08:31
yoggIf I install "php-gettext" with apt-get everything works fine08:32
OerHeksyogg, also php7.0-mbstring ? see this bugreport  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/phpmyadmin/+bug/1572895 + https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/phpmyadmin/+bug/156912808:34
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1572895 in phpmyadmin (Ubuntu) "phpmyadmin install missing php-gettext and php7.0-mbstring package" [Undecided,New]08:34
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1569128 in phpmyadmin (Ubuntu) "phpmyadmin missing gettext dependency [16.04 Xenial] " [Undecided,Confirmed]08:34
OerHeksplease confirm the last bugreport to get this under attention08:35
yoggOerHeks: thx, I will confirm them08:35
Desuthis is a sign that you should not use phpmyadmin08:40
andjjj23do any of the ubuntu kernel git repos have any linux 4.6 RCs?08:40
k1l_!mainline | andjjj2308:40
ubottuandjjj23: The kernel team supply continuous mainline kernel builds which can be useful for tracking down issues or testing recent changes in the Linux kernel. More information is available at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds08:40
andjjj23oh ok, so i just use mainline08:40
k1l_but use at own caution08:40
andjjj23if yakkety ships with 4.6, will 4.6 likely then become available as a backport for usage on xenial?08:42
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egon11!weather kgd08:43
digilink[KGD, Russia] Scattered Clouds. Temp is 9*C. East wind: 7 kph. Humidity: 66%.08:43
fernan[diablo]: explosive: hi08:44
Teaboyanyone noticed a slight difference in font weight & letter/line spacing after upgrading to 16.04?08:44
OerHeksdigilink, please remove that bot, thanks08:44
fernan[diablo]: /query08:45
OerHeksfernan, trying to play with your bot?08:45
rocktoster_: Hi08:45
auronandace|workandjjj23: if you are talking about the kernel then it will be available via the enablement stack08:47
andjjj23auronandace|work: yes i am. thanks. i also just found https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack08:47
rockabort_: Hola Guapa, Kieres Trambolikeo???08:48
winsenHi all08:48
winsenhow to keep my system clean and faster on debian or on linux in general?08:49
andjjj23in practice, does running a mainline kernel frequently cause major issues?08:49
embrikUbuntu phone: anyone knows if it is possible to install snapchat on ubuntu phone`?08:49
andjjj23(interested in feedback from folks that regularly use mainline kernels with 14.04)08:49
auronandace|workandjjj23: in practice it means you'll need to maintain it yourself08:50
auronandace|work!touch | embrik08:50
ubottuembrik: Information about the Ubuntu Touch platform for Phone and Tablet is available here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch . Support and discussion in #ubuntu-touch08:50
embrikChuckuzzo: Thanks08:51
blankohow to fix this error: vgaarb: this pci device is not a vga device08:53
blankonvidi GTX 950M08:53
blankoubuntu 16.0408:53
ubuntu-matetest08:55
CptUnluckyhi all, someone with problems on Ubuntu 16.04 with ralink wifi card ?08:56
andjjj23blanko: when did you get that error?08:57
OerHeksblanko, seems to be an old bug, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/138117508:57
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1381175 in linux (Ubuntu) "vgaarb module not patched" [Low,Expired]08:57
CptUnluckyyesterday, after the upgrade from 15 -> 16.x08:57
OerHeksvgaarb module not patched for 3D08:57
CptUnluckyops, sorry question was not for me08:58
Teaboyargh my fonts are all so wide08:58
zetheroonormally I wait a few months after a LTS release to get it when the initial bugs have been dealt with - how is it looking for 16.04?09:00
auronandace|workzetheroo: works great for me, anything specific you have in mind?09:02
zetherooauronandace|work: not really09:02
Ox032FI'm trying to upgrade a server from 14.04 to 16.04 and I thought systemd is the new default, but it is not installed, which packages do I need to add manually?09:02
zetherooI am actually surprised it's so quiet in here :)09:02
de-factozetheroo how would you expect someone to answer this? it has been stabilized before release i guess and works fine for many, but having a bug always depends on the individual scenario, hence could be just fine, but possibly you will run into bugs which wont be corrected if you dont report them09:02
zetheroomust be a good thing ..09:02
lotuspsychje!ltsupgrade | Ox032F09:03
ubottuOx032F: Users of 14.04 LTS will be offered the automatic upgrade when 16.04.1 LTS is released, which is scheduled for July 21st.09:03
Ox032Fso anyway to go back?09:04
zetheroode-facto: well I recall in the past this channel being a hive of activity with people asking about hardware issues just after a new release - graphics issues, sound issues etc ...09:04
zetherooBut it seems rather quieter in here now. I take that to be a good thing.09:05
MrZone_Hello, may i ask LXD related questions in here?09:05
_maddyzetheroo: you should probably wait a few months just to be sure, if that's how you are used to doing it09:05
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lotuspsychjeOx032F: oh you already upgraded? better not trying to go back then09:05
bbdhello09:06
lotuspsychjeMrZone: anything related to ubuntu fits here09:06
blankoOerHeks how to config this patch09:06
Ox032Flotuspsychje: yes, but I get the error "/usr/sbin/invoke-rc.d: 1: /usr/sbin/invoke-rc.d: /sbin/runlevel: not found" a lot, so I thought the init system is messed up09:06
Ox032Fnow I'm also wondering whether it is actually possible to upgrade a virtual server09:07
de-factozetheroo yeah it seems not too many of those this time, yet there have been some of course. If you are really curious you could try to test your hardware from within a livecd and if it works fine for you upgrade your real box09:07
lotuspsychjeOx032F: perhaps the #ubuntu-server guys might give you a hand with that09:07
Ox032Flotuspsychje: thx I'll ask there09:08
MrZoneI am using LXD and trying to limit the usage of swap per container. In LXD you use profiles that you link the containters to when you create them. For example; "limits.memory 2GB" gives you 2 gigs of mem. However, for the "limits.memory.swap" the only 2 flags you can set is "true" or "false". You can also set the priority according to https://linuxcontainers.org/lxd/news/ but i am rather more into restricting the swap usage for each user in the attempt09:09
ziz15hello does anyone know how to make brasero hide the recent projects??thanks09:10
bbdh09:11
TvL2386hi guys! Anybody know of a cool SFTP server solution?09:11
kernel_mutexhi09:11
kernel_mutexI was looking for building a package from the source.09:12
kernel_mutexI didn't find any debian related spec file.09:12
MrZoneTvL2386: SFPT is included in openssh. You can connect to SFTP on port 22.09:12
kernel_mutexIn the source package.09:12
kernel_mutexSo where are those scripts09:12
dksmwkernel_mutex: should they be there?09:12
de-factokernel_mutex debian does not use spec files09:13
kernel_mutexI just saying that I downloaded that sources, from apt-get source --download-only option09:13
kernel_mutexSo where are dpkg spec file ?09:13
de-factothere is a debian directory in the source dir09:13
TvL2386MrZone, yeah I want to make an SFTP server for my colleagues to put files and have customers download them... but I'm thinking of how to authenticate and keep ppl in there own directory....09:14
de-factogo in the source dir and "dpkg-buildpackage"09:14
DesuTvL2386: openssh does all that09:14
DesuTvL2386: force-command internal-sftp; ChrootDirectory; etc09:14
dksmwkernel_mutex: dpkg-buildpackage -uc -us09:15
TvL2386Desu, cool! How would you do user management?09:15
DesuTvL2386: only allow key or 2fa access, make sure you are not allowing dsa keys or protocol 109:15
DesuTvL2386: you use "real" sytem users09:15
Desusystem*09:15
MrZoneTvL2386: You can setup anonymous login for the download only.09:15
Desueither traditional local accounts or radius/ldap/whatever09:15
Desudon't do that09:15
Desuthen you could just as well just have a open http server with no auth09:16
MrZoneDesu: How would you go about making it so that users that connect to SFTP cannot see other directories? Eg. just see the one they connect to and not /09:16
blankohow to fix this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/138117509:16
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1381175 in linux (Ubuntu) "vgaarb module not patched" [Low,Expired]09:16
blankostep by step please09:16
DesuMrZone: ChrootDirectory09:16
DesuMrZone: man -P "less -p ChrootDirectory" sshd_config09:17
MrZoneDesu: So make them an account with nologin shell and ChrootDirecitiry?09:17
Desuit has a downside thouhg, the target must he root:root09:17
DesuMrZone: no09:17
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DesuMrZone: man -P "less -p forcecommand" sshd_config09:18
Desuyou set that to internal-sftp09:19
Desu(asuming a non-outdated openssh version)09:19
zzarrhello!09:19
MrZoneDesu: Nice09:20
Desualso see the "Subsystem" option09:20
zzarrI get an error "relocation error: <bin here> symbol _ZNSt7__cxx1112basic_stringIcSt11char_traitsIcESaIcEED1Ev, version GLIBCXX_3.4.21 not defined in file libstdc++.so.6 with link time reference"09:20
zzarrhave anyone an idea what's wrong?09:20
Desuthere are several good guides on how to do scp/sftp only using openssh, don't read any guide that tells you to mess wtih login shells, using rssh or similar09:20
Desuthey are all horribly outdated09:20
orf_Hi, I've found a reproducable crash in gnome-shell when using the Chromium developer tools.09:21
de-factozzarr the <bin here> has been build with another version of libstdc++?09:21
de-factoif it has symbols not in your version of it09:21
orf_How do I find out if it's a problem with Chromium or Gnome?09:21
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zzarrde-facto, I built the project under 16.04 and try to run it under 14.04, but both systems have version 6 of the lib09:22
easyhi all, i am using ubuntu 16.04 and i want to change its plymouth splash screen to xubuntu, but i am getting following error while installing xubuntu theme, one more thing i would like to mention that  Ubuntu was booting with a black screen( NO animation) and now it is booting in text mode,  plymouth locations has been changed from /etc/plymouth to /usr/share/plymouth and i edited .plymouth file accordingly, but no solution, please help me to solve the error g09:23
easyiven below09:23
easyW: plymouth module (/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/plymouth//.so) missing, skipping that theme.09:23
zzarrcan I check the exact version of the libs some how?09:23
zzarrboth systems are up to date09:25
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easysomebody with plymouth knowledge , help me, it is 64 bit system, and following error got while installing plymouth theme ) W: plymouth module (/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/plymouth//.so) missing, skipping that theme.09:26
de-factozzarr hmm probably it was linked against some symbols which are in the 16.04 version of libstdc++ but are not in the 14.04 version? just my guess09:27
zzarrde-facto, I think you're on to something09:27
de-factozzarr maybe you should ask in #ubuntu-devel09:28
blankohow to fix this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/138117509:28
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1381175 in linux (Ubuntu) "vgaarb module not patched" [Low,Expired]09:28
blankostep by step please09:28
blankothanks09:28
xnaveiraHi guys, I was wondering if there is a reference for the kernel boot parameters for the Ubuntu 1604 netinstall? We're using the same as 14.04 but we get a "Booting kernel failed: Invalid argument"09:29
zzarrde-facto, I'm upgrading the 14.04 machine to 16.04 (it's an virtual machine and I have an backup)09:30
ElectroMotiveso for some reason the calendar on this install is not in English using xfce09:34
DesuElectroMotive: post output of `locale`09:36
Desu(use a sane pastebin like bpaste.net, ptpb.pw, gist.github.com)09:36
ElectroMotiveit says en_US.UTF-809:37
Desufor *all* of them?09:38
ElectroMotiveexcept for where it says LC_ALL= and where it says LANGUAGE=09:38
ElectroMotivebut everywhere else it says the above09:38
ElectroMotivethe other two are empty09:39
Desuthat is fine09:39
ElectroMotiveyeah but when i click on my calendar it is in some other language09:39
dksmwElectroMotive: what language is the calender in?09:40
Desuwhich calendar program?09:40
ElectroMotivei am not sure09:40
ElectroMotivefor either question09:40
dksmwElectroMotive: is it written with letters?09:40
ElectroMotiveyes09:41
noeliaHello everyone09:41
ElectroMotiveAgda Baxisso is the current month09:41
noeliaI'm having some troubles with Ubuntu 16.04 and the Realtek RTL8188EE Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01)09:42
dksmwElectroMotive: what do you see in locale -a?09:42
noeliaIt gets connected and disconnected all the time09:43
noeliaI downloaded the driver from http://152.104.125.41/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=48&PFid=48&Level=5&Conn=4&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false&Downloads=true#272209:43
noeliaBut it returns errors when I try to install it.09:44
ElectroMotivedksmw, a very long list09:44
TanvirHello, I am trying to upgrade from 15.10 to 16.04. I have opened Software Updater, and clicked on upgrade, then typed my password to authenticate, and clicked on okay button. Then the window disappears and nothing happened. What could be the problem here and how to solve it?09:45
TvL2386Desu, thanks for all your remarks! I've documented them and I'm going to investigate how to setup a good sftp server09:46
ruicruzhello there. libqt4 is not installed in ubuntu 16. how can I solve this and install it? its missing for a program I use.09:46
ElectroMotiveTanvir, you may try do-release-upgrade09:48
ElectroMotivein terminal09:48
ElectroMotiveinvoking sudo of course09:48
TanvirHow to do that?09:48
ElectroMotiveopen the terminal and type sudo do-release-upgrade09:49
dksmwruicruz: libqtcore409:49
ElectroMotiveclear09:49
ElectroMotiveoops09:49
rp2I've once had that fail. The cause was probably packages installed from 3rd-party PPAs. So you may need to uninstall those first09:50
ElectroMotivegotta love when you think you are typing in a terminal and you are really typing into the chat09:50
sapa_inyonghow to personal chat on Xchat?09:50
jiggawattzsapa_inyong ▸ /msg user09:50
ruicruzdkessel ok, got it.09:51
akhilGuys. Having a weird problem with suspend. Sometimes after i move my laptop under suspend, it fails to resume. However, deliberately shaking the laptop does not bring it up. the entire suspend sequence is written to log only after wakeup, so i do not know what is happening (laptop powers off completely when i try to resume from suspend in such cases)09:51
TanvirElectroMotive, seems it's working as it's downloading stuff! Thanks!09:51
ElectroMotiveyeah i hope you have a backup just in case09:51
ElectroMotivebut no problem with the tip09:52
TanvirElectroMotive, I don't have a backup of my home folder, but is that necessary?09:52
TanvirI thought things would be kept.09:53
ruicruzdkessel i see that the package is installed, but my app still requires the "old" (ubuntu 15) name of the package. do you know any way I can solve this?09:53
ElectroMotivewell like rp2 said depending on if you have 3rd party PPAs then it may just fail but if everything seems ok i would not worry09:54
TanvirOn that note, would it be okay to backup the necessary files in some other partition?09:54
l0gichi. i am having issues getting my yubikey to be detected as a smartcard on 14.04. the yubikey-personalisation-gui detectes the key, but not as a smartcard. i installed opensc, and pcscd. it works on a non-ubuntu linux. any suggestions09:54
noeliaI'm having some troubles with Ubuntu 16.04 and the Realtek RTL8188EE Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01)09:55
hateballnoelia: Sadly that is the case with most realtek chipsets, the driver support is atrocious09:56
noeliahateball Should I try ndiswrapper?09:57
ElectroMotiveakhil, its rude to PM without an invite09:57
hateballnoelia: I don't really have any other suggestion than to buy a well supported chipset to replace it with09:57
ElectroMotivemost people if they know the answer to your question will try to help if they can09:57
hateballnoelia: At least that's the only reliable solution I've used09:58
noeliahateball Thank you very much09:58
ElectroMotivei will try to help whoever i can but sometime people have their own problems they are trying to solve as well09:58
hateballnoelia: That said, it's perhaps possible to get it working. I just... didnt find it worth the anger09:58
ElectroMotivemaybe ask again with a better description of the actual problem09:59
hateballnoelia: Intel and Broadcom chipsets work well in my experience09:59
Guido1I want to print on a printer conected to an XP home computer, but I have to enter a username and pasword. If I want to acces a shared folder I just get the message that I'm not autorised.10:01
firmanHay, I'm using intel hd graphic, I was experience freeze so many time's I trying to install the driver from 01.org and then the driver software tell that my distro is not supported, iam on ubuntu 15.10 64bit, some body have suggestion to fix it?10:02
ElectroMotivewhat is 01.org10:03
ElectroMotivethat does not sound official at all10:03
noeliahateball I'll try one of those :)10:04
OerHeksfirman, that driversite is not official supported here, intel driver is standard available10:05
noeliaBy the way, how can I remove Ubuntu's default network manager and replace it with Wicd?10:06
ElectroMotivenoelia, the latestkernel version may be looking for signed derivers10:06
ElectroMotivedrivers*10:06
firmanokay, then how to fix my problem, its freezing to often, even when i just browsing with firefox, watching video's and other10:06
firmanOerHeks10:07
OerHeksintel is no racemonster but, depending on the intel chipset, you should be able to play youtube fine.10:08
ElectroMotivenoelia, someone that had the same problem was able to solve it by disabling secure boot in the bios10:08
noeliaElectroMotive I'm going to try that, then. Thank you :)10:08
ElectroMotiveyup10:09
firmanIn the middle of streaming on youtube, its crash and nothing i can do when thats momens coming10:13
firmanexcept push the power button10:13
EriC^^firman: segfault10:13
firmanEric^^ i'm sorry??10:14
firmanEriC^^10:14
EriC^^firman: it's probably a segfault10:16
EriC^^happens sometimes, try to update the browser/flash or maybe try using html510:17
blankohow to fix this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/138117510:20
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1381175 in linux (Ubuntu) "vgaarb module not patched" [Low,Expired]10:20
blankostep by step please10:20
blankothanks10:20
cfhowlettblanko, as noted, it's an unfixed bug.  feel free to hack a fix and submit.10:21
blankoSome people say that fixed by patch10:22
cfhowlett"some people"?  are those people or fix noted on the bug report??10:23
blankobut i don't now how to install patch10:23
blankoi don't know10:23
blankosee patch10:23
blankohttp://pastebin.com/wpmFi38k10:23
cfhowlettthe patch was for 14.10 which you should NOT be using10:24
blankoi used 16.0410:24
cfhowlettgood.  the bug is expired so will not be fixed for 14.10.  If you report and open a new bug, it *might* get fixed.  seems to be a low priority issue though10:25
ElectroMotiveblanko, which graphics card?10:26
AGE_KILLERHi Guys10:26
blankocfhowlett ok thanks for help10:27
blankoElectroMotive nvidia gtx 950m10:27
cfhowlettlittle help it was, but best of luck, blanko10:27
ElectroMotiveare you using the driver from nvidia?10:28
serverboyhello10:28
blankocfhowlett thanks :)10:28
blankoElectroMotive Yes10:28
firmanEriC^^ i dont get it10:29
blankoElectroMotive  driver nvidia-35810:29
serverboypls help me. i want to check if someone is connected to port 80 of my ubuntu sserver10:30
Wulfserverboy: netstat10:31
ElectroMotivenetstat | grep :8010:31
EriC^^serverboy: or sudo lsof -i :8010:32
anomaly44any idea why i cant install anything by clicking10:33
serverboythnks guys10:33
anomaly44when i click install, it says 'installing' for 2 sec, and then 'install' again10:33
cfhowlettanomaly44, shut down software center.  try installation via command line.  note error messages10:33
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serverboywhat is command to to request dhcp in ubuntu10:36
Wulfserverboy: dhclient10:37
anomaly44cfhowlett, dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of megasync:10:38
anomaly44 megasync depends on libc-ares2 (>= 1.7.4); however:10:38
anomaly44  Package libc-ares2 is not installed.10:38
anomaly44 megasync depends on libcrypto++9v5; however:10:38
anomaly44  Package libcrypto++9v5 is not installed.10:38
anomaly44however, i cant install those packages either10:38
serverboyWulf:thanks10:39
cfhowlettanomaly44, there it is.   temporarily disable your megsync entry (assuming it's a ppa here) then update,10:39
anomaly44cfhowlett, how do i do that?10:40
cfhowlettanomaly44, first let's find it: in the terminal ...       cat /etc/apt/sources.list | grep megasync | pastebinit10:40
anomaly44cant install pastebinit10:43
anomaly44same problem10:43
cfhowlettanomaly44, first let's find it: in the terminal ...       cat /etc/apt/sources.list | grep megasync | nc termbin.com 999910:43
anomaly44Use netcat.10:44
anomaly44netcat doesnt work either :|10:44
serverboywhat is the command to list all installed packages?10:44
cfhowlettanomaly44, first let's find it: in the terminal ...       cat /etc/apt/sources.list | grep megasync10:44
cfhowlettserverboy, dpkg -l10:44
serverboycfhowlett:thanks10:45
cfhowletthappy2help! serverboy10:45
francoisbabeuf_Simple video slideshow software for ubuntu?10:45
n1md4hi.  i have sound issues with my laptop.  the laptop speakers work, as does the headphone jack.  but if i boot without the headphones connected, and instead connect when booted, the sound does not come through the headphones.... ideas?10:45
anomaly44cfhowlett, no output10:45
anomaly44cd -10:45
cfhowlettanomaly44, so it's not in a ppa.  wait 110:45
hateballfrancoisbabeuf_: OpenShot10:47
cfhowlettanomaly44, per the megasync site:  Note that at least on Ubuntu, after installing MEGAsync, the MEGA repository is added automatically (so you should receive automatic MEGAsync updates).10:48
serverboywhat is command to find package with name10:48
cfhowlettserverboy, apt-cache policy packagename10:48
serverboycfhowlett:thanks10:49
cfhowletthappy2help! serverboy10:49
anomaly44when i use software updater, i get package system is broken10:50
LibertyWeNeedhave you tried synaptic package manager?10:50
LibertyWeNeedto fix broken packeges?10:50
riggeedevehelo huys10:50
OerHeksanomaly44, on what ubuntu version?10:50
riggeedevehello guys10:50
anomaly4416.0410:50
riggeedevedo you like ubuntu or arch more10:50
riggeedevewat dod u tin of arch10:50
anomaly44no LibertyWeNeed dont know how10:51
riggeedevedoes anyone know how to install a server10:51
OerHeksriggeedeve, wrong channel for polling, what do you expect for an answer in th official ubuntu support channel?10:51
cfhowlettriggeedeve, ubuntu.  (duh)10:51
riggeedevei wat to activate it, after installing apache10:51
hateballs/polling/trolling/10:51
cfhowlettriggeedeve, go away.  go to arch.10:51
riggeedeveto make it available on the ner10:51
riggeedeveon the net10:51
riggeedevei am on ubuntu!!10:52
serverboywhat is the command to list dependencies for package?10:52
OerHeksriggeedeve, read the server guide, good start10:52
LibertyWeNeedanomaly44, search for Synaptic Package Manager on your computer10:52
riggeedeveserver guide10:52
riggeedevewhich?10:52
riggeedeve where?10:52
LibertyWeNeedif you don't have it you may need to install it.10:52
cfhowlettriggeedeve, on the (slim) chance that you are merely lost, this channel does not support arch.  ask arch for support.10:52
riggeedeve iinstalled it10:52
anomaly44cant find it LibertyWeNeed10:52
OerHeksserverboy, apt-cache rdepends packagename should do what you want10:52
hateballserverboy: apt-cache show <package>, will show depends10:52
LibertyWeNeedanomaly44, are you able to open the ubuntu software center?10:53
serverboythanks10:53
riggeedevecfhowlett, silly numb, i am on ubutu, who said i am on arch10:53
riggeedeveabove all i am on linux10:53
riggeedevethey are all the same10:53
cfhowlettfalse.  and misleading.  your troll colors are showing.10:54
anomaly44yes LibertyWeNeed  but cant install the package manager either10:54
anomaly44weird thing is, is that this is almost a fresh install10:54
anomaly44only installed node and postgres10:54
riggeedeveww10:55
riggeedevehey ubuntu noobs10:55
riggeedevewhat are your questions?10:55
riggeedevei can answer them all10:55
erchache2000I upgrade from 15.04 to 16.04 and nows apt-get doesn't run properly10:55
riggeedeve for free10:55
LibertyWeNeedanomaly44, have you tried using terminal?10:55
anomaly44for what?10:55
erchache2000W: Error de GPG: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial InRelease: No se pudo ejecutar «apt-key»  para verificar la firma (¿está instalado gnupg?)10:55
erchache2000how I can refresh gpg keys?10:56
anomaly44i m gonna try restarting10:56
anomaly44hope i can install when i get back10:56
OerHekserchache2000, maybe your mirror is not up2date, change to (main)  and try again10:56
l0gichi, i asked before, but didn't get an answer (not even "nope, can't help you"): my yubikey isn't detected as a smartcard on 14.04. on other distributions it is. i installed pcscd, and opensc. opensc-tool -l only detects the laptops internal card reader. any advice?10:57
OerHekserchache2000, seen this before, not a key issue, just out-of-sync10:57
serverboywhere is the kernel path located in ubuntu?10:57
l0gicthe yubikey itself is detected, and i can configure it with yubikey-personalization-gui10:57
LibertyWeNeedDoes Canonical have any Keynote Presentations when they announce their new upgrade to their Distro?10:57
ubuntu1604Hello, wget won't download due to a read only .bin file. Is it safe to scp the.bin file to Ubuntu and install?10:58
erchache2000OerHeks: only happs on this machine10:58
cfhowlettLibertyWeNeed, if so, it would be on the canonical or ubuntu youtube10:58
erchache2000I upgrade other two before withtout this problem10:58
erchache2000too strange, very first time :-(10:58
anomaly44ok so i cant seem to install anything10:58
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LibertyWeNeedanomaly44, I think the best thing to do is a clean install10:59
LibertyWeNeedanomaly44, have you got a back up?10:59
anomaly44damn11:00
anomaly44have a home partition11:00
anomaly44so it's manageable11:00
cfhowlettanomaly44, a /home is not the same as a backup.  just sayin ...11:00
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riggeedevehy ubuntu noobs11:01
riggeedevei use arch11:01
cfhowlett!ops | riggeedeve11:01
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riggeedevei am a power user11:01
riggeedeveu r just a noob11:01
riggeedeveubuntu noobs11:02
cfhowletta power user would be doing actual power user work, not being a power troll.11:02
l0gica power user would help me with my yubikey issue :P11:03
serverboyhello pls help what is update.rc used for?11:04
Cloudblowhow can i solve this error from apt-get update ? http://pastebin.com/raw/v4k6FVvK11:05
iu8293ohi geeks11:06
iu8293oi am having some problem cfhowlett11:06
cfhowlett!guidelines | yes, you are rude.  stop.11:06
ubottuyes, you are rude.  stop.: The guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines11:06
iu8293ocfhowlett, could you identify somehow if they are behind a VPN?11:08
OerHeksCloudblow, seems to be a known issue > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/155833111:08
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1558331 in apt (Ubuntu) "message "The repository is insufficiently signed by key (weak digest)" is poorly worded" [High,Fix released]11:08
iu8293oif they changed their username11:08
iu8293oubottu, could u?11:08
ubottuiu8293o: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)11:08
iu8293ook11:08
cfhowlettsurely, a super user would know the answer to such a question, iu8293o.  but proceed ...11:08
iu8293ocfhowlett, ok how11:09
CloudblowOerHeks: oh, this is a bug from apt and is it not from google sha1 key?11:09
OerHeksCloudblow, more debian info https://wiki.debian.org/Teams/Apt/Sha1Removal11:10
cfhowlettiu8293o, this channel is for ubuntu support.  please stay on topic or ask #ubuntu-offtopic11:10
OerHekssha1 is depreciated11:10
CloudblowOerHeks: i know low security from sha1, I though google repos are up to date with hashing algoritm...11:11
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ernstpIf i've booted as "single" user on 16.04, how do I start networking?11:13
OerHeksCloudblow, i don't encounter that issue, are you on 32 bit?11:13
CloudblowOerHeks: nope, amd6411:13
BluesKajHiyas all11:13
hateballCloudblow: are you on 15.10 or 16.04?11:14
Cloudblowhateball: 16.0411:14
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hateballCloudblow: I see. Well as you can see the top three only gives warnings, so you could disable the musicmanager list and wait til that gets sorted11:15
zoolandeR3What are the best general Linux OS and bash books available? Can someone recommend something?11:15
dksmw!utopic11:16
ubottuUbuntu 14.10 (Utopic Unicorn) was the 21st release of Ubuntu.  Support ended on July 23rd, 2015. See !eol, !upgrade and http://ubottu.com/y/utopic11:16
cfhowlettzoolandeR3, http://www.linuxlinks.com/article/20090405061458383/20oftheBestFreeLinuxBooks-Part1.html11:16
pbeshayHello11:21
pbeshayI am looking for a simple inventory management software11:21
sooraji need a data recovery software for ubuntu11:25
cfhowlett!recovery11:25
ubottuIf your system fails to boot normally, it may be useful to boot it into recovery mode. For instructions, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveryMode11:25
cfhowletteek.  not that one sooraj11:25
Cloudblowhateball: OerHeks : thanks for help!11:25
OerHeks!testdisk11:26
soorajhow to install testdisk?11:26
OerHekshttp://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Step_By_Step11:26
sooraji tried downloading tar.bz2 file11:26
OerHeksi would use the live iso, http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Livecd11:27
OerHeksor ubuntu live mode and installing it in the live environment11:27
dksmwlinux users are unlikely to have any inventory11:27
soorajthere is no another software than testdisk?11:28
anomaly44so i reinstalled, tried to install megasync by running sudo dpkg -i megasync-xUbuntu_16.04_amd64.deb11:28
anomaly44and my package manager is broken again11:29
anomaly44was able to install hexchat, tried to install megasync11:29
LibertyWeNeedhmm…11:30
LibertyWeNeednot sure11:30
de-factoanomaly44 run "sudo apt-get -f install"11:30
dreamereh, I just upgraded to 16.04 .. and now all my terminals give some dumb message about "man sudo_root"11:30
dreamerhow do I get rid of this?11:30
p0ff3Is there a way to make my workspaces "wrap around"? So that they loop11:30
anomaly44done de-facto11:31
llutzdreamer "touch ~/.sudo_as_admin_successful"11:32
anomaly44de-facto, i can install other stuff again11:33
anomaly44but how do i fix the megasync install?11:34
dreamerllutz: wow, that is .. wow.11:34
ksx4systemwhat could cause iwlwifi driver to connect at extremely low bitrate (like 1 or 2mbps) to 802.11n networks?11:34
de-factoanomaly44 background is: if you install a .deb via dpkg -i  ... it does not resolve dependencies, hence you are left with broken dependencies. apt can fix that possibly. if you are looking for a nice and simple gui way i can recommend to install gdebi it can be choosen as default app for opening .deb files (when you double click) and resolves dependencies11:34
dreamerllutz: who thought this was a good idea?11:34
cfhowlettanomaly44, ask megasync.  pretty sure you are not alone.11:34
llutzdreamer: don't ask me....11:34
dreamerllutz: and where is this behaviour documented?11:34
dreamer(honestly, this is moronic)11:34
anomaly44ok thx de-facto, cfhowlett11:35
billydazhi11:35
billydazhow do get to delete every occurence of a particular name on my system11:36
llutzdreamer: check /etc/bash.bashrc, idk who added this nonsense but it's there since a while11:36
billydazsay for instance openvas11:36
billydazI want to remove the folders11:36
de-factoanomaly44 the "sudo apt-get -f install" tries to fix broken dependencies11:36
Lopeis there any reason that I can't install a linux 4.x kernel on ubuntu 14.04?11:37
WulfLope: no11:37
razhow do i enable direct root ssh login?  all the guides are wrong (they want me to set 'PermitRootLogin yes' which enables passwords, which i don't want).11:38
dreamerllutz: ok, I'll just delete/comment that part. I don't want to have some mandatory file in my home-dir11:38
Wulfraz: what behaviour do you want?11:38
dreamerllutz: and so other than here it's not documented anywhere?11:38
razWulf: normal ssh behavior, root login with key authentication11:38
Nilesh_how to restore all the symlink in /ust?11:38
Nilesh_*/usr?11:38
Wulfraz: okay, man sshd_config, read about PermitRootLogin11:38
hateballbillydaz: in that case: "find / -name openvas -delete". Be very careful.11:38
anomaly44cool with gdebi it worked11:39
billydazNilesh_: chattr11:39
Nilesh_billydaz: ?11:39
razWulf: i have. this is not about sshd_config but about the pam garbage that some utterly confused person at ubuntu hacked in.11:39
bertthegreat all11:39
billydazNilesh_:11:39
bertthegreatHi all !11:39
billydazyea I saw your msg11:39
razWulf: PermitRootLogin no-password is exactly what i want, i just need to remove the ubuntu sabotage11:39
billydazjust considering if I want to go that route11:40
Wulfraz: check ~root/.ssh/authorized_keys too11:40
Wulfraz: there is no other default nonsense in ubuntu11:40
razWulf: i have. i'm pretty sure the "please login as ubuntu"-crap is hooked in via pam.11:40
razi just can't find where11:40
Wulfraz: that's usually configured in authorized_keys11:40
razWulf: not here. authorized_keys contains just my vanilla key, no options on it11:41
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Wulfraz: double and triple check that.11:41
razWulf: ...11:41
razi can read, thanks11:41
Wulfraz: and people make silly mistakes11:42
razyes, like adding this security compromising garbage to a mainline distro11:42
razit is not in authorized_keys and not in in the sshd config11:42
Wulfraz: are you really really sure you checked ~root/.ssh/authorized_keys, not another?11:43
billydazhateball: how to I insert the recursive key to delete directories11:43
razWulf: yes11:43
Wulfraz: type in the command, paste a dump of your terminal. Please.11:43
Wulfraz: and also the output of the ssh command you use11:44
razWulf: oh f**** this sudo crap. you were right. whoami = root ... echo $HOME = /home/ubuntu11:44
Wulfhaha ;-)11:44
* raz screams11:45
razi hope the person who came up with that idea dies a painful death11:45
hateballbillydaz: then you'll want to use find with -exec11:46
akikraz: what sudo command did you run?11:47
Wulfakik: probably just sudo -s11:47
razakik: sudo bash11:47
razanyway, it's fixed now, for this host...11:47
akikraz: ok sudo -i or sudo su - fixes that problem11:47
WulfWhen I say what I think about sudo, I'm sure that someone will ask the bot to tell me about !language again...11:48
razthere's no `su -` for the sudoers crap...11:48
razforcing people to deal with passwords, in 2016, is so brain damaged, it makes me want to torture someone11:48
akikraz: all commands are available for the user account you created during the install11:48
Wulfsudo is the Donald Trump of all tools11:48
razakik: it is wrong. it is broken. i don't even want to talk about it. if you have a say in ubuntu then remove this crap immediately.11:49
akikraz: what is wrong?11:49
razakik: sudo11:49
akikraz: you have to be more specific11:49
Wulfakik: sudo is a braindead, broken, annoying idea11:50
razforcing ubuntu users to login as non-root is braindead, broken and dangerous.11:50
akikif you want to get a root shell, use sudo -i or sudo su -11:50
Wulfakik: the only proper use case is if you want a specific user to run a *specific* command as another user11:50
asdhbavfhbafhi all11:50
cfhowlettraz, you feel strongly about this.  fine.  less ranting in the volunteer channel and file it as a bug report if you expect any action.11:50
razakik: i should never have to do that. it does not add security, it removes security.11:50
serverboyhi geek11:51
razcfhowlett: i'm not expecting any action, this has been debated before, the brain rot is strong in ubuntu steering..11:51
asdhbavfhbafsomeone can help me with an audio trouble?11:51
serverboywaht is the command to list all tty devices?11:51
bazhangraz lets take this to #ubuntu-discuss please11:51
Wulfserverboy: ls /dev/tty*11:51
razbazhang: np, i'm already quiet, /rant ;)11:51
serverboyWulf:thanks11:51
bazhangraz you can file a wishlist bug if you so desire11:51
Wulfbazhang: it's pointless11:52
razbazhang: i can just as well file a lottery ticket11:52
|ZNC|GiantVorapIs this channel only for questions about ubuntu?11:52
razthe latter has more upside potential :)11:52
cfhowlett|ZNC|GiantVorap, ubuntu support is the topic11:52
asdhbavfhbafI can't listen the sound ....11:52
bazhang|ZNC|GiantVorap, general linux questions in ##linux11:52
asdhbavfhbafCan you help me?11:53
bazhangneed more info asdhbavfhbaf11:53
asdhbavfhbafok11:53
p0ff3Is there a way to make my workspaces "wrap around"? So that they loop left-right?11:56
bazhangp0ff3, with gnome shell there is11:57
Myrttiand with Compiz Config11:57
bazhangp0ff3, if you check the gnome extensions site, you can add coverflow via alt tab, and other such actions11:58
akikraz: i read about your root ssh login. the keyword that you want is without-password11:58
asdhbavfhbafusually on winxp i had realtek audio drivers, but now if i try to do11:58
razakik: yes, that's in there by default. the sabotage was actually in the authorized_keys file, like Wulf correctly pointed out11:58
asdhbavfhbaf<asdhbavfhbaf> I don't listen any sound, but if i try cat /proc/asound/modules I see 1 saa7134_alsa11:58
lerner every time I use sysinfo it crashes: CLI output: https://paste.ubuntu.com/16062236/11:59
lerner16.04 64 bits11:59
asdhbavfhbafmmm11:59
akiki don't think it's there by default for PermitRootLogin, at least in ubuntu11:59
anomaly44No command 'deb' found, did you mean:12:00
anomaly44what do i need?12:01
akikanomaly44: wild guess, dpkg?12:02
Myrttip0ff3: if you install CompizConfig manager and want to rotate through the workspaces in Unity that Ubuntu comes with, the setting is in "Desktop Wall"12:04
vijaikumaris there a way to enable indirect glx rendering in ubuntu without doing it directly in /usr/share/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/50-xserver-command.conf with a +iglx flag ?12:04
Myrtti"Viewport Switching" --> "Allow wrap-around"12:04
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yogghi12:11
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lernerhi12:16
lernerhii logged in before and pasted a link to my sysinfo cli problem. Can you please paste it ain? oddly it is nowhere in my logs to be seen12:17
lerneragain12:17
bazhang!1984 | lerner have a search12:18
ubottulerner have a search: Official channel logs can be found at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ . LoCo channels are now logged there too. Meeting logs from meetingology at http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/12:18
trijntje<lerner>  every time I use sysinfo it crashes: CLI output: https://paste.ubuntu.com/16062236/12:18
lernerthx trijntje12:18
QwertieIm logged into the root an ubuntu server with an ssh key. Is there any way I can copy the key to another user so I can use it there too?12:20
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lerneris this the log for this channel? #ubuntu+1.txt12:21
teward|ubuntulerner: no12:21
somsip!logs | lerner12:21
ubottulerner: Official channel logs can be found at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ . LoCo channels are now logged there too. Meeting logs from meetingology at http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/12:21
teward|ubuntuQwertie: get the public key line out of the ~/.ssh/authorized_keys file for root and put that info onto another user?12:21
lerneri dont find only a "ubuntu"12:21
somsiplerner: look closer - at the bottom12:21
teward|ubuntulerner: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2016/04/26/%23ubuntu.txt <-- it's there12:22
lernera, found it, should it be on top?12:22
lernershouldn't*12:22
cfhowlettsorted by time stampo12:22
krishna_hi12:22
lerneraaaaa...12:22
lernerok12:23
krishna_how are you doing?12:23
lernercan yo help me with the mentioned sysinfo crash?12:23
lotuspsychje!info inxi | lerner a nice sysinfo package as alternative12:25
ubottulerner a nice sysinfo package as alternative: inxi (source: inxi): full featured system information script. In component universe, is extra. Version 2.2.35-0ubuntu1 (xenial), package size 122 kB, installed size 547 kB12:25
lernerlotuspsychje, is sysinfo not maintained anymore?12:26
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lotuspsychje!info sysinfo12:26
ubottusysinfo (source: sysinfo): display computer and system information. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.7-10 (xenial), package size 97 kB, installed size 329 kB12:26
lotuspsychjelerner: should be12:26
lernerlotuspsychje, and what can trigger this behaviour?12:26
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lotuspsychjelerner: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1606581.html12:28
KugiChatter :)12:28
lotuspsychjelerner: wich ubuntu version did you have?12:28
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lerner16.0412:31
lernerbut now I see inxi is all cli, which should be faster12:31
ck_mfcHey, anyone else having problems with the nvidia drivers and Ubuntu 16.04 ? I just did an upgrade... And cant login12:31
phpcoderhello guys, i am using ubuntu 16.04 and i have a problem with apparmor....12:31
phpcoderit is blocking mariadb, i get this error:12:31
phpcoderApr 26 14:26:02 damiano kernel: [ 1602.657851] audit: type=1400 audit(1461673562.983:33): apparmor="DENIED" operation="sendmsg" profile="/usr/sbin/mysqld" name="/run/systemd/notify" pid=4222 comm="mysqld$12:31
phpcoderhttps://nopaste.me/view/becbf5eb#L2112:31
asarwow ubuntu 16.04 is so smooth12:32
asarno lagging on my vm12:32
lotuspsychjeck_mfc: card chipset and driver loaded?12:32
lernersudo apt-get uninstall sysinfo < should work...12:33
lerner?12:34
bazhanglerner, no12:34
lernersudo apt-get remove sysinfo < should work...12:34
bazhangwhat did you try so far lerner12:34
lernerbazhang, nothing12:34
lotuspsychjelerner: you just found a bug on sysinfo, just tested it also, same crash12:37
phpcodersomeone could help me with apparmor?12:37
lerner\o/12:37
lotuspsychje!bug | lerner12:38
ubottulerner: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs.12:38
lotuspsychjelerner: if you make the bug, ill add me affected aswell12:38
lernerwhat? I do have to work?12:38
lotuspsychjelerner: if you wanna help the community12:38
lernerI just executed ubuntu-bug sysinfo on a cli12:39
lotuspsychjelerner: correct :p12:39
serverboywhere is the file kernel located?12:39
lernerjesus christ, not again the loggin in12:40
lotuspsychjelerner: its only launchpad, no big deal12:40
lernerlotuspsychje, https://login.launchpad.net/KjpeL61RSoxGqQYX/+decide returns Invalid OpenID transaction12:41
ronatorhi! where can I suggest release names? The page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DevelopmentCodeNames says, I could iz right there, but the page is immutable. looks like a typical canonical paradoxon ..12:41
lernermust I log in?12:41
lotuspsychjelerner: register at launchpad, make yourself a nice login12:41
lernerlotuspsychje, cant I print my output, send it to you, you log in?12:42
lotuspsychje!contribute | ronator here perhaps?12:42
ubotturonator here perhaps?: To contribute and help out with Ubuntu, see http://community.ubuntu.com and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ContributeToUbuntu12:42
cfhowlettronator, sorry but release names are selected by the SABDFL12:42
lotuspsychjelerner: its better you register once, otherwise you wont be able to set 'im affected' to this bug12:42
ronatorwhat a pity. then maybe one should up12:42
ronatorupdate the info on the page i sent12:43
ronatorand i did not mean selection i meant suggestion12:43
ronatorI'll follow the contrib link thx12:44
TenLeftFingersTesing new IRC app on Ubuntu phone.12:48
de-factoTenLeftFingers works :)12:48
auronandaceTenLeftFingers: may your tests prove successful12:49
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rosssoHello. Suppose there are some debian packages which store their stuff in /var/lib/somename  Now someone does rm -rf /var/lib/somename  How do we know which debian packages have been damaged and reinstall them?12:50
ronatorman apt-get or --fix-missing12:50
ronator--fix-broken12:51
geudrik^ beat me to it12:51
rosssooh, it seems I needed debsums --changed12:51
de-factorossso maybe apt-file?12:52
lotuspsychjelerner: you get it working?12:52
lernerlotuspsychje, i need an email provider12:52
geudrikrossso: # apt-get update --fix-missing; dpkg --configure -a; apt-get install -f12:53
geudriksomething akin to that12:53
rosssothanks everyone! the final command looks like dpkg --get-selections  | cut -f 1 | grep somename | sudo xargs debsums | grep -v OK12:55
sam_yanwhen run the instance of "_syscall" of man sheet,it tells "error: unknown type name ‘sysinfo’"12:55
effectnethi what can i use to delete all the partitions from boot?12:55
geudrik# dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/sd#12:56
lotuspsychjeeffectnet: can you tel us the whole story? what are you trying to do12:56
geudrikor your favorite partition editor, of course12:56
eoli3nHi, i want to find a way to do that thing -> xfce4-terminal -T "appname" -e 'source /path/to/script ; bash'12:56
effectnethi lotuspsychje :P12:56
eoli3nbut it failed, saying that source dont work12:56
eoli3nthe script is right12:56
effectnetgosh i cannot get ubuntu to install on this laptop12:57
eoli3nand if i replace xfce4-terminal with xterm, it works12:57
lotuspsychjeeffectnet: wich laptop and wich ubuntu version?12:57
effectnetit has problems, this laptop, and i wanted to try deleting the partitions12:57
de-factorossso you can alsu use dpkg -S /var/lib/<packagename>12:57
effectnetit's an asus laptop, and ubuntu 14.04 i think it is12:57
lotuspsychjeeffectnet: single boot or dualboot? uefi machine?12:57
geudrikSo has anyone purchased the Meizu PRO yet? Curious on first-hand thoughts on it12:57
lotuspsychje!touch | geudrik12:58
ubottugeudrik: Information about the Ubuntu Touch platform for Phone and Tablet is available here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch . Support and discussion in #ubuntu-touch12:58
effectneti'll take anything, trying to do single right now.  i do see uefi options in the bios.12:58
geudrikcheers, lotuspsychje12:58
lotuspsychjeeffectnet: ok you need to disabel secureboot and fastboot to install ubuntu12:58
effectnetok i did find the secureboot and that is off.  i never found a fastboot.12:58
effectnetthe windows partition/installation is trashed, so i can't get into the windows12:59
lernerlotuspsychje, so, why must you insist in making it stupidly burdensome for any regular user to create an account?12:59
lotuspsychjeeffectnet: check your bios again, it must be somewhere12:59
effectnethmm ok, i will then.  i'm gonna wait for current operation to do something.13:00
effectnetor not do something heh13:00
lotuspsychjelerner: i never pushed you mate, just trying to convince you its important to bug for the community13:00
lotuspsychje!uefi > effectnet13:00
ubottueffectnet, please see my private message13:00
lotuspsychjelerner: next person that installs sysinfo, might got it working because of your bug...13:00
effectnetah k13:02
lernerlotuspsychje, i didnt mean you personally13:02
zetherooI am having difficulty installing 3rd party debs using the default Ubuntu software installer13:02
zetherooone of the debs is Google Chrome browser13:02
lotuspsychjelerner: i dont feel targeted, dont worry :p13:03
cfhowlettzetheroo, yep that came up a couple of times today.  last guy used gdebi as a workaround13:03
lotuspsychjelerner: make a fake gmail or so specially for bugs if you want to stay anon...ill update the bug report you make13:03
zetheroocfhowlett: ok thanks13:04
cfhowletthappy2help! zetheroo13:04
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effectnetso yeah, i guess i do want to look at the partitions from boot though.13:07
effectnetwhat program would i use for that?13:07
effectnetand also erase the partitions13:07
mortenmI have a question if anyone can help me regarding software for chineese symbols in open office or libre writer.. I have this text that is currently translated by chineese person into symbols... But the symbols got saved in a bnp immage file... How can I/ is there a way to make the transission into a word document so i can format symbol size and layout... I tried font manager but it did not seem to have any of the tools for doing this... Any13:08
mortenm sugestions...?13:08
lotuspsychjeeffectnet: ubuntu setup can erase/format the partitions13:08
effectnetthere is some kind of partition problem13:09
ChloeWolfieGirlUsing chatter on the Ubuntu Phone, Nice :313:09
effectnetoh i got in!13:11
effectnetgeez i dont remember this stuff, i dunno how many partitions to make, etc13:12
lotuspsychjeeffectnet: ubuntu setup can make auto partitions for you13:12
effectnetthank you.  i don't want to do that though, i must forge ahead now that i am in here, the partitioning tool13:13
lotuspsychje!partitioning | effectnet13:13
ubottueffectnet: For help with partitioning a new install see: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/installation-guide/i386/partitioning.html - For partitioning programs see !GParted, !QtParted (!Kubuntu 8.10 and lower) or !PartitionManager (!Kubuntu 9.04 and up) - Other partitioning topics include !fstab !home and !swap13:13
effectnetnice13:13
effectnetoops 404 not found13:13
lotuspsychjeeffectnet: tnx for notice, ill report13:14
lernerlotuspsychje, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sysinfo/+bug/157518213:14
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1575182 in sysinfo (Ubuntu) "sysinfo crashes on ubuntu 16.04 (since upgrade)" [Undecided,New]13:14
Chrisi_Hai13:14
jianishi13:15
jiahello13:15
topiratehey i am new to linux13:15
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lotuspsychjelerner: thank you for taking your time, ill add me as affected13:15
jiawho are you13:15
jiaI come from china13:16
topirateand i have started to use ubuntu 14.04 from last three months13:16
lotuspsychjetopirate: you joined the ubuntu support channel, you can ask ubuntu questions here13:16
cfhowlettjia, this is a tech support channel.  socialize on qq not here13:16
topiratecan i upgrade to 16. which is being recently launched i guess13:17
cfhowletttopi`, you can but should not13:17
BluesKaj!16.0413:17
ubottuUbuntu 16.04 LTS (Xenial Xerus) is the current release of Ubuntu. Download at http://www.ubuntu.com/download - Read the release notes at http://ubottu.com/y/xenial13:17
cfhowlettwait until 16.04.1 in October13:17
BluesKajtopirate, is this a work computer?13:18
topiratedo i need to download the iso file again13:18
topirateBluesKaj: i din get you13:18
topiratewell its for personal13:19
topirateuse13:19
BluesKajnot on a workpolace network etc13:20
BluesKajplace13:20
effectnethmmm the partitioning failed13:20
topirateyeah it is but not always13:21
topiratewhy??? BluesKaj13:21
topirateBluesKaj: do i need to download the iso file again13:21
zetheroodid something change in the way that services are restarted? In 14.04 I was able to do ' service snmpd restart  ' but in 16.04 there doesn't seem to be an snmpd service !?13:22
BluesKajin case you have bugs that become a problem, topirate ...you can upgarde via the internet or do a clen install using an iso13:23
topiratek thanks BluesKaj13:23
BluesKajscuse the typos13:23
hateballzetheroo: systemd happened13:23
lotuspsychjelerner: updated your bug13:24
hateballzetheroo: I am merely guessing here, but perhaps sudo systemctl restart snmpd.service13:24
TheFocus#conky13:24
lotuspsychjelerner: tnx again for taking your time13:24
zetheroohateball: ok will try13:24
lernerlotuspsychje, do you get paid?13:24
zetherooFailed to restart snmpd.service: Unit snmpd.service not found.13:25
zetheroooh well ..13:25
lotuspsychjelerner: no why?13:25
hateballzetheroo: well, !tab works, it could be called something else13:25
lerneryou sound like a standard phone operator13:26
lotuspsychjelerner: its the opensource thinking, the community helping each other with filing bugs13:26
zetheroohateball: yeah, I tried with TAB ... doesn't look like snmp has anything there13:26
lernerthen you are welcomed :D13:27
lernerI got rid of chromium, but the icon is still to be seen in the applications menu. Oddly, it doesnt appear in the more detailed "Properties" menu, and I cannot get rid of it: compare the left and center sides of this screenshot: http://www.shareimages.com/image-r.php?76734-pJacl5yek6Kkk5.VnA-chromium.png13:28
BinaryVAXwhats a good screen cap tool like oCam but for linux i did try kazam but it has issues on my system13:28
hateballBinaryVAX: This works well what little I've used it https://obsproject.com/download#linux13:29
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lotuspsychjelerner: tried a reboot?13:32
lernerlotuspsychje, yes13:32
effectnetok for this project anyway, i want to boot something and work with the partitions, and i guess isolate a bad partition.  what's a good bootable tool?13:32
lotuspsychjelerner: how did you uninstall chromium?13:32
lerneri dont remember, I think I just deleted the whole directory13:33
lerner.chromium maybe13:33
lotuspsychjelerner: you did not use purge?13:33
lernerif purge is a command, no13:33
lotuspsychjelerner: sudo apt purge chromium-browser13:34
lernerPackage 'chromium-browser' is not installed, so not removed13:34
lerner0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.13:34
lundmarTJ-: fyi - there is some new findings in the gnome-terminal unmaximize report. Apparently the issue does not present itself when using eg. metacity. So it seems a unity specific issue.13:35
lotuspsychjelundmar: but other terminals work like a charm on unity?13:36
lotuspsychjelerner: not sure mate, you might have scrambled someting by deleting manually?13:36
TJ-lundmar: yes, I'm following the email notifications on the reprot13:37
lundmarlotuspsychje: I don't know - haven't tested others.13:37
TJ-lundmar: I'm on another related issue in the unity-greeter too bug 157164013:37
ubottubug 1571640 in lightdm (Ubuntu) "lightdm changing resolution" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/157164013:37
lotuspsychjelundmar: i did test with sakura and terminator13:37
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lotuspsychjelundmar: i also tested gnome-terminal on fresh xenial install, same bug13:38
lundmarTJ-: oh, so windows and screens are currently a hot topic I see.13:41
TJ-lundmar: same old world, been this way for more than 10 years :D13:41
lundmarTJ-: I hope things will change for the better once we get rid of X ;)13:42
lundmarin 10 years or so i guess haha13:42
TJ-lundmar: I doubt it... that will remove network client/server remote desktop functions13:43
lundmarTJ-: surely an alternative solution to that is still being pondered.13:44
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Sreekumarhi13:48
SreekumarHow can I install HP Scanner N912013:48
Sreekumaranybody can help me?13:48
hateballSreekumar: Plug it in13:50
Sreekumarok13:50
Sreekumarthen?13:50
hateballSreekumar: hplip should be installed by default, and it should work out of the box in any SANE app13:51
Sreekumarhplip installed but not working13:51
hateballSreekumar: oh my bad... I thought it was OfficeJet 9120 and not ScanJet13:52
lotuspsychjeSreekumar: try hplip-gui and scan from there?13:52
Sreekumarscanned but not finding the model13:52
lotuspsychjeSreekumar: wich ubuntu version are you on?13:53
Sreekumar14.0413:53
Sreekumar64bit13:53
Sreekumarany other way to install?13:54
hateballSreekumar: I can't find the model on hplip http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/index.html13:54
hateballAnd on HP's site, there is only Windows listed... usually if it has Linux support it will direct you to hplip13:55
Sreekumarthat model not in that site13:55
SreekumarHP peoples given to me three files13:56
the_ghostSreekumar: What is difference of lsusb with scanner plugged in?13:56
Sreekumarlibsane.la, libsane.so.1.0.18, libsane-hpn912.so.1.0.1813:56
Sreekumarthe_ghost I did't get you13:57
the_ghostin terminal without scanner type: lsusb, then plug it in and type again. there should be a new entry can you copy/paste that?13:58
Sreekumarnot checked13:58
SreekumarI will check please wait13:58
marcelitog14:01
hateballSreekumar: I'm not sure, but maybe you can place libsane-hpn912.so.1.0.18 in /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/sane/14:01
jackmordGuys?14:05
jackmordMind if i ask something?14:05
Picijackmord: don't ask to ask, just ask :)14:05
jackmordWhat IRSSI command that shows all available server channels?14:06
osxhow can i show installed kernels in console?14:06
jackmordexit14:07
osxafter upgrade from 15.10 to 16.04 is still got kernel 4.2 i thought it should be kernel 4.414:07
compdocfresh install:   Linux ubuntu 4.4.0-21-generic #37-Ubuntu SMP14:08
osxok seems mine got not updated or is not booted by default14:08
kpettitanybody by chance know of a tool like yumi or some USB mutli boot creation tool?  I hate having to use windows to create multi-boot USB drives.14:08
lotuspsychjekpettit: multisystem14:09
kpettitawesome!  I didn't know about that one.  Thanks lotuspsychje14:10
lotuspsychjekpettit: just keep in mind its not officially on repos14:10
lotuspsychjekpettit: use at own risk :p14:10
kpettitDoes it suck?14:11
lotuspsychjekpettit: no it rocks, drag n drop the iso's to the program and burn14:11
kpettitdo the linux's boot up ok?  I had a problem for awhile where ubuntu stuff would boot OK but Centos ones would always have issues.14:11
lotuspsychjekpettit: tested only ubuntu official flavors on it myself, experiment with it a bit14:12
lotuspsychjekpettit: i had 6 iso's on 1 stick lubuntu,xubuntu and ubuntu-desktop all 32 and 64bit14:12
satysinhi all, I have to run the following command to stop my mouse cursor going crazy (xset m 1) and would like to make the change permanent but not too sure how I do that with xorg conf files14:13
satysinCan anyone help?14:13
kpettitlotuspsychje: Ok, I'll give it a whirl and put it through it's paces.  I've got customers on various linux flavors so I have to keep a bunch of linux's things arround14:13
lotuspsychjekpettit: perhaps there's a dd way to put several iso's on usb.., there is also an AOI image with all ubuntu flavors on it somewhere14:14
anomaly44what would be the best way to backup my system?14:15
rory!backup14:15
ubottuThere are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning14:15
anomaly44thx14:15
kpettitlotuspsychje: Cool thanks for the tips.  I've done a lot of dd, pretty sure that won't work but this multisystem sounds very promising.  I'll experiment a bit and see how it goes.14:16
liceo-provsaciao a tutti14:16
roryfwiw anomaly44 I just copy important files to an external drive a couple of times a year and leave it at my mum's.14:16
anlagedoes it run?14:16
lotuspsychje!it | liceo-provsa14:16
ubottuliceo-provsa: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)14:16
lotuspsychjekpettit: it works nicely, good luck :p14:16
anomaly44rory, since i m a linux noob and mess up my system a lot, i wanted to try backuping :p14:17
serverboyhow do i list directory using ls showing 3 columns?14:18
anlageLALALALALALALLALALALALALLALALALALLALALALALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLL14:18
lotuspsychjeanlage: not here please14:18
huehue_good day guys14:18
huehue_I need help14:18
romarehey, after a fresh install of ubuntu gnome first thing I wanted to do was installing wine, but I get this error:14:19
huehue_RTL-8029AS - recognized but not ready"14:19
romareThe following packages have unmet dependencies:  wine : Depends: wine1.6 but it is not going to be installed E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.14:19
romareI searched it but none of the solutions worked14:19
huehue_ne2k_pci loaded !!14:19
billydazromare: I guess you are using apt packages14:20
romarebillydaz: which means?14:20
BenderRodriguezromare, you have broken packages14:20
billydazdownloading directly from apt14:20
billydazapt-get install14:20
romaredoing it manually is too much work:(14:21
billydazdo this apt-get purge wine14:21
billydazapt-get install -f14:21
djznhi folks, i'm looking for an app that displays a countdown timer on ubuntu's top taskbar, like an app-indicator... something that will count a session in minutes. Is there such thing from the repos?14:21
romareE: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Permission denied) E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?14:21
billydazrm /var/lib/dpkg/lock14:22
billydazthen try it again14:22
romareagain, the same error14:22
billydazensure you have sudo14:22
romarebillydaz:  ok it worked now but14:23
romare0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.14:23
billydazapt-cache search wine14:23
romareso I got a list14:24
romaresorry I'm new to linux14:25
huehue_RTL-8029AS - recognized but not ready. But ne2k_pci loaded! :/14:25
billydazromare: its no problem14:25
billydaztry apt-cache search wine --stable14:26
romarebillydaz: so what will I do with this list?14:26
romareok14:26
romareE: Command line option --stable is not understood in combination with the other options14:27
billydazok14:27
billydazsudo apt-get install wine --stable14:27
romareagain14:27
romareE: Command line option --stable is not understood in combination with the other options14:27
billydazok remove the stable14:28
Teaboyisn't it supposed to be apt-get install wine/stable14:28
lotuspsychjeromare: wich ubuntu version are you on of gnome?14:28
serverboyhello pls help. i need command to show directory listing in 3 columns14:28
billydazTeaboy: thanks14:28
romare16.04 LTS14:29
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lotuspsychje!info wine14:29
ubottuwine (source: wine1.6): Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (meta-package). In component universe, is extra. Version 1:1.6.2-0ubuntu14 (xenial), package size 0 kB, installed size 6 kB (Only available for i386; amd64)14:29
romarejust a fresh install. I didn't change anything on it14:29
lotuspsychjeromare: you have the universe repo enabled?14:29
billydazsudo apt-get install wine/stable14:29
romarelotuspsychje: you mean those canonical partners thing?14:29
romarebillydaz: did that. the same error I got14:30
huehue_RTL-8029AS - recognized but not ready. But ne2k_pci loaded!14:30
lotuspsychjeromare: check your sources14:30
billydazlets see the source list14:30
romarehow do I do that?14:30
huehue_Now I fixed set up interfaces auto eth1 iface eth1 dhcp14:30
lotuspsychjeromare: software & sources14:30
usr13serverboy: If your terminal window is the right width, just ls14:31
serverboyhello pls help. i need command to show directory listing in 3 columns14:31
VillageHello Guys, maybe someone knows how to convert http stream to ace stream?14:31
billydazcat /etc/apt/sources.list14:31
huehue_network manager can't use14:31
romarebillydaz: https://ghostbin.com/paste/mz2bk14:32
usr13serverboy: (it will depend on how long the filenames are)14:32
usr13serverboy: So, can't you just adjust the width of your terminal window?  (You're doing it in a gui terminal, right?)14:33
nillawaferStrangest thing... I did a fresh install of 16.04 on my Latitude E5420 and Network Manager thinks my BCM4313 802.11n wireless adapter is an wired ethernet adapter. Any ideas?14:33
serverboyHi usr13. is ther any way to use ls -C to show directory listing in 3 columns14:33
usr13serverboy: I just told you.14:33
usr13serverboy: (I'm pretty sure -C is default anyway.)14:34
lotuspsychjenillawafer: sudo service network-manager restart14:34
billydazromare: your list is fine14:35
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romarebillydaz: so what would be the problem? btw I have this problem with every app I want to install.14:36
romarethis is my second fresh install of ubuntu gnome14:36
billydazsudo bash -c "apt-get update;apt-get install -f"14:36
romareobviously there's something wrong with ubuntu gnome14:36
dhanzkiehello14:36
billydazwhat is the error message again14:36
romare0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.14:36
nillawaferlotuspsychje: that appears to have fixed this issue. Wireless networks are showing up in the list now.14:37
billydazopen another terminal and run tail -f /var/log/syslog14:37
serverboyusr13:yes but how do list directory in just 3 columns?14:37
lotuspsychjenillawafer: its a bug, i have it also perhaps you can file the bug?14:37
dhanzkiehello how can i locked my screen on ubuntu mate?14:37
usr13serverboy: ld ?14:37
serverboyusr13: i need a command14:37
romarebillydaz: https://ghostbin.com/paste/6ujpy14:38
usr13serverboy: You are wanting to list files?  Right?  (As opposed to list directories?)14:39
nillawaferdhanzkie: Ctrl + Alt + L14:39
serverboyYes but i just need 3 columns without touching the terminal14:40
billydazromare: apparently it is meant to capture logs when you run the apt command14:40
lotuspsychjenillawafer: if you file the bug, ill mark as affected14:40
romarebillydaz: meaning?14:40
nillawaferlotuspsychje: I will look into filing a bug on launchpad14:41
lotuspsychjenillawafer: thank you, i also on fresh xenial and b4314:42
LopeI see all of the ISO downloads on ubuntu's site are insecure (HTTP, not HTTPS) and even the torrent file offered on ubuntu's site is served insecurely as well (HTTP not HTTPS)14:42
wabberHi, I'm trying to use the proprietary nvidia driver. I tried installing it through the ubuntu repository and the nvidia standalone driver. This is my xorg.conf: http://pastebin.com/nn42GaX6 (it was generated by the nvidia tool). But according to my x11 log file, the intel driver, nouveau and the nvidia driver are beeing loaded. X11 then uses the intel graphics. How can I force X11 to only use the nvidia module?14:42
billydazromare: how many terminal screens do you hvae open14:42
romarebillydaz: two14:42
romarebillydaz: sorry, one14:42
billydazhave you run the apt command14:42
lotuspsychjeLope: you was here earlier this week dont you asking the same question14:42
romarewhich apt command?14:43
billydaztry to open another one14:43
Lopelotuspsychje: I didn't ask that.14:43
billydazso that you have two14:43
romareand then?14:43
LopeSo why are all of the ubuntu downloads insecure?14:43
lotuspsychjeLope: there are md5 to test the iso's14:43
Lopethe md5's are served over HTTP as well14:43
lotuspsychjeLope: http doesnt mean insecure...14:43
Lopeso the md5 are insecure also14:43
ronatorsounds like someone is trolling14:44
ronatortry to download any other distro over https ;-)14:44
billydazthen in one run sudo bash -c "apt-get update;apt-get install -f"14:44
Loperonator: go check for yourself14:44
ronatorI do not need, i check the md5sum14:44
lotuspsychjeLope: do you have an ubuntu issue?14:44
billydazthen in the other runtail -f /var/log/syslog14:44
Loperonator: I have14:44
ronatorso what is your proeblem actually?14:44
Lopelotuspsychje: yes, I can't seem to find a secure download of ubuntu, thats an ubuntu issue.14:45
usr13wabber: nouveau is the open-source nvidia driver (not intel).  Paste your /var/log/Xorg.0.log so we can see what you have loaded.14:45
dksmwLope: sums are signed14:45
romare0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.14:45
ronatorwell you could use an ftps/sftp server14:45
Lopedksmw: how can the sums be verified?14:45
ronatordont know why poeople frefer down load over a browser ;-)14:45
Lopethe ftp servers don't prevent MITM?14:45
ronatorREAD14:46
lotuspsychjeLope: the way of downloading doesnt matter as the iso can be md514:46
usr13wabber: Or you can look at the output of "grep Driver /var/log/Xorg.0.log"14:46
lotuspsychjeLope: did you find an unsecure iso of ubuntu yet?14:46
romarebillydaz: https://ghostbin.com/paste/koey914:46
Lopelotuspsychje: and where do you suggest the real md5 is viewed? on the insecure HTTP page?14:46
lotuspsychjeLope: stop it please14:47
akikLope: here's the info how to check the signatures https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto14:47
l0llipopLope: If you find ubuntu downloading insecure: go to build your own linux then14:47
Lopehttp://mirror.pnl.gov/releases/xenial/MD5SUMS thats an insecure md514:47
blacknred0i have a file document_object*.json where *=numbers, but it is showing other files that do not have numbers. how could I do a ls just for files with numbers?14:47
Desumd5 collisions are pretty easy to generate, the images should be gpg signed14:47
billydazhmm nothing discriptive in that14:47
Desumd5 is for checking for corruption, not validity14:48
billydazwhat is the errror on the apt screen buffer14:48
usr13wabber: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log |nc termbin.com 999914:48
usr13wabber: and send resulting URL14:48
dksmwLope: there are sha-256 sums too14:48
Desublacknred0: shell dependent14:48
ronatorSFTP / FTPS is NOT FTP14:48
romarebillydaz: can you open the question?14:48
LopeDesu: they also offer other hashes, over insecure HTTP.14:48
Desudksmw: which shouldn't be used for validation either14:48
Lopedksmw: ^14:49
blacknred0Desu: yes14:49
wabberusr13: pasted it on pastebin already srry: http://pastebin.com/tpyz5dT7 I know that nouveau is the open source which is why I'm confused that it gets loaded. But according to the grep only the intel and nvidia driver are beeing used14:49
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LopeWhat's the point in offering these hashes insecurely? why bother offering them at all? http://mirror.pnl.gov/releases/xenial/SHA256SUMS14:49
Lopehttp://mirror.pnl.gov/releases/xenial/SHA256SUMS.gpg14:49
Desublacknred0: on sane shells you can do foo[0-9]bar14:50
usr13wabber: lspci |nc termbin.com 999914:50
aaaasasHEY14:50
aaaasass14:50
LopeSo is it impossible to securely download ubuntu?14:50
Desublacknred0: you can also use find with the full power of regex14:50
wabberusr13:14:51
lotuspsychje!ops | lope trolling about https again14:51
ubottulope trolling about https again: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Pici, Myrtti, jrib, Amaranth, tonyyarusso, Nalioth, lamont, CarlK, elky, mneptok, PriceChild, Tm_T, jpds, ikonia, Flannel, genii, wgrant, stdin, h00k, IdleOne, nhandler, Jordan_U, popey, Corey, ocean, cprofitt, djones, Madpilot, gnomefreak, lhavelund, k1l, rww, phunyguy, bazhang14:51
wabberusr13: http://termbin.com/rfyu :D14:51
DesuLope: use gpg14:51
LopeNot trolling, its a legitemate question14:51
WulfLope: http://releases.ubuntu.com/16.04/  what is missing?14:51
rp2I think it's a legitimate question, too14:51
LopeDesu: I've asked repeatedly, where am I supposed to get a GPG key to verify the file with?14:51
blacknred0Desu: thanks! that did the trick!14:52
akikLope: here's the info how to check the signatures https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto14:52
Desunot using https really is a mistake, but then again https won't help if the site is hacked nayway14:52
Desuanyway*14:52
DesuLope: you can go and meet one of the devs in person, or verfy the key against several third parties etc14:52
DesuLope: all depends on how paranoid you are14:52
LopeDesu: but why do I need to be paranoid to get a secure download?14:53
DesuLope: read up on the concept of web of trust14:53
rp2because security is not a yes/no property14:53
jiggawattzTransmission's website was h@x0red recently....... all the OS X downloaders were infected with Key Ranger14:54
akikLope: i've pasted the answer to your question twice. why do you ignore it?14:54
rp2https will keep others from tampering with the .iso and .md5 between the Ubuntu server and you, but it does nothing to prevent them from tampering with them on the Ubuntu server14:54
jiggawattzBrave New World14:54
rp2or on your own machine14:54
lotuspsychjelets not discuss here guys14:54
lotuspsychje!discuss14:54
ubottuWant to talk about Ubuntu, but don't have a support question? /join #ubuntu-discuss for non-support Ubuntu discussion, or try #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat. Thanks!14:54
usr13wabber: What you have is two display adapters, one is intel the other is nvidia.  So two driver modules are being loaded, one for the intel and one for the nvidia display adapter.  That is normal. (And you are, in fact, using the proprietary nvidia driver for the Nvidia display adapter.)14:54
jiggawattzlotuspsychje ▸ does it make you uncomfortable?14:54
Desuif the whole of the intertubes thinks that the gpg key of ubuntu is valid, it probably is14:54
lotuspsychjejiggawattz: the channel is meant for ubuntu support issues14:54
Lopeakik: thanks, reading now.14:55
jiggawattzsecurity is a ubuntu issue, in my opinion14:55
jiggawattzwe should be concerned about the security of Ubuntu's distribution servers14:55
lotuspsychjejiggawattz: if its a specific problem on ubuntu, yes, but a security discussion doesnt fit here14:55
* dksmw shudders from a thought about https downloads14:56
wabberusr13: this is a laptop and I'm using the onboard screen. When I open the nvidia management tool it says I'm not using the nvidia driver. Also I have no glx extensions :/14:56
rp2the support question is: how can I download an Ubuntu .iso over https? The answer is: sorry, can't be done. THe followup question is: why not. Is that a support question? I'd say no.14:57
nitinhello kam72014:57
usr13wabber: dmesg |nc termbin.com 999914:57
wabberusr13: http://termbin.com/z26u14:57
MacroManI want to upgrade from 14.04 LTS to 16.04 LTS, but upon running do-release-upgrade, I'm told that a new release is not found. I'm fully updated.14:59
usr13wabber: Ok, I see: " nvidia: module verification failed: signature and/or required key missing - tainting kernel"14:59
popey!ltsupgrade | MacroMan14:59
lotuspsychje!ltsupgrade | MacroMan14:59
ubottuMacroMan: Users of 14.04 LTS will be offered the automatic upgrade when 16.04.1 LTS is released, which is scheduled for July 21st.14:59
wabberusr13: huh, do you know what causes that error?14:59
dksmwMacroMan: don't upgrade yet, xenial is buggy like hell15:00
malwar3hun73ris there a good way to monitor syslog for a specific log (vpn connection) and send an email alert?  I'm testing logcheck now, but it seems overly verbose and difficult to tune.15:00
usr13wabber: Assuming you have the correct nvidia driver module loaded, you may need to run the nvidia configuration tool again.  BUT, my guess is that the nvidia driver module did NOT install properly.15:00
lotuspsychjedksmw: please dont say thinks like that here15:00
OerHeks!fud15:00
ubottuPlease do not fall prey to, or spread FUD (fear, uncertainty, and doubt) - it is not welcome here!  Please see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear,_uncertainty_and_doubt15:00
usr13wabber: .... so I would just uninstall it and download from nvidia.com and install it manually.15:01
lotuspsychjeafternoon eric__15:01
wabberusr13: ok, I'll try that. Thanks.15:01
dksmwlotuspsychje: look at release notes maybe?15:01
usr13wabber: ... or maybe that's what you did already?15:01
EriC^^_afternoon lotus15:01
xnaveiraanyone knows why lldpd is not available on 16.04?15:01
lotuspsychjedksmw: lets not discuss that here15:01
gsivorihi everyone15:02
MacroManHas the release date for Xenial changed? I swear it was due for release in April.15:02
Seveasxnaveira: it is available.15:02
Seveas!info lldpd xenial15:02
ubottulldpd (source: lldpd): implementation of IEEE 802.1ab (LLDP). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.7.19-1 (xenial), package size 139 kB, installed size 451 kB (Only available for linux-any; kfreebsd-any)15:02
OerHeksxnaveira, it should > https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lldpd/0.7.19-115:02
wabberusr13: yea actually I'm did. I tried the repository one, which didn't work at all (black screen). Then I purged everything and installed the one from nvidia manually which resulted in no glx extensions15:02
usr13wabber: Ok, I *have* seen cases where the package from Ubuntu repos for nvidia just does not work properly, and I think that is one of those cases.15:02
BlackVenomHey folks15:03
usr13wabber: sudo apt-get remove nvidia*15:03
BlackVenomusing the Git command, how do I copy a github repo15:03
gsivorii'm running ubuntu 16.04 with mate 1.12.2. back then with 15 and now i face this issue where the boot encounters disk errors and i have to reboot. there were times i had to do fsck -y /.. etc. anyone had this issue before?15:04
usr13wabber: ... and just go to nvidia.com, download direct and use their instructions for install.  It's not that hard.15:04
rp216.04 LTS was released on April, 21: https://insights.ubuntu.com/2016/04/20/canonical-unveils-6th-lts-release-of-ubuntu-with-16-04/15:04
MacroManBut I'm offered a download for 16.04 on the Ubuntu website and the release date was 21st April.15:04
usr13wabber: The /etc/X11/xorg.conf file may work as is.15:04
xnaveirathat's weird, in my netinstall machines it isn't, ty anyway15:04
PiciMacroMan: and?15:04
rp2maybe your mirror doesn't have it yet?15:05
MacroManubottu thinks it's not out until July 21st15:05
ubottuMacroMan: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)15:05
DJonesMacroMan: LTS to LTS upgrades are only automatically offered once the 1st point release is issued, so you'll get the update in July when 16.04.1 is released, its been that way for the last few LTS releases15:05
usr13wabber: But the installer will more-than-likely re-create it.  (You could remove the existing one, but probably not necessary.)15:05
wabberusr13: I am currently using the manually installed one. remove nvidia* removed 0 packages15:05
rp2aah15:05
OerHeksMacroMan, upgrade will be offered with the 16.04.1 release, not now, but see the upgrade wiki howto do it now15:05
rp2thanks for explaining15:05
MacroManDJones, I see. Thank you15:05
mortenmI have a question if anyone can help me regarding software for chineese symbols in open office or libre writer.. I have this text that is currently translated by chineese person into symbols... But the symbols got saved in a bnp immage file... How can I/ is there a way to make the transission into a word document so i can format symbol size and layout... I tried font manager but it did not seem to have any of the tools for doing this... Any15:05
mortenm sugestions...?15:05
MacroManIs there anyway I can start an upgrade to the next LTS now?15:06
rp2try to get this person to produce something other than bitmap images15:06
rp2that would be my suggestion15:06
usr13wabber: If sudo apt-get remove nvidia* did not remove any packages, I suppose you had already removed it somehow.15:07
rp2mortenm: why can't this person use LibreOffice?15:07
usr13wabber: And that would be why it is not loading, becuase it does not exist in the first place.15:07
usr13wabber: are you sure?  Look and see.15:08
usr13wabber: ls /var/lib/dpkg/info/nvidia*list15:08
wabberusr13: yes I did. I installed the repository one, got a black screen after reboot. Used the terminal to purge everything again and then I the one from nvidia.com manually which resulted in a functioning xorg but without glx extensions15:08
lotuspsychjeMacroMan: clean install or do-release-upgrade perhaps?15:08
wabberusr13: *then I installed15:08
usr13wabber: ls /var/lib/dpkg/info/*nvidia* |grep list15:08
MacroManlotuspsychje, do-release-upgrade tells me there is no release available.15:09
usr13wabber: Oh you got a black screen?  Was there a cursor on it?15:09
wabberusr13: returns nothing15:09
effectnethow big do i make /home?15:09
gsivorii'm running ubuntu 16.04 with mate 1.12.2. back then with 15 and now i face this issue where the boot encounters disk errors and i have to reboot. there were times i had to do fsck -y /dev/sdb .. etc. anyone had this issue before?15:09
wabberusr13: don't remember oo15:09
usr13!nomodeset | wabber15:09
ubottuwabber: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter15:09
lotuspsychjeMacroMan: could try force with -d option15:10
wabberusr13, ubottu: so using the driver from the repository with nomodeset as a kernel parameter could work?15:10
usr13wabber: Yes15:10
lotuspsychjeMacroMan: dont forget to backup before upgrading15:11
wabberusr13: Alright. I'm gonna try that then. Thanks.15:11
usr13wabber: Install it again, if you get black screen, try nomodeset15:11
usr13or just do it anyway15:11
MacroManlotuspsychje, OK will give that a try. Thank you. I'm just doing this on a test duplicate of my live server.15:11
lotuspsychjeMacroMan: your on server?15:11
MacroManlotuspsychje, I'll be upgrading a server edition yes15:12
lotuspsychjeMacroMan: for production?15:12
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MacroManNo. this is a copy of my production server to test if all my software will still work after an upgarde15:13
lotuspsychjeMacroMan: ok good luck15:13
usr13Wow, I handled that completely backwards.  Should have asked wabber to verify that nvidia package was installed *first*! ;(15:13
mortenmI have a question if anyone can help me regarding software for chineese symbols in open office or libre writer.. I have this text that is currently translated by chineese person into symbols... But the symbols got saved in a bnp immage file... How can I/ is there a way to make the transission into a word document so i can format symbol size and layout... I tried font manager but it did not seem to have any of the tools for doing this... Any15:13
mortenm sugestions...?15:13
wadSo I need to install some sort of antivirus on my Ubuntu machine. I know it's not needed, but company policy, blah blah blah. Recommendations?15:16
lotuspsychje!info clamav | wad15:17
ubottuwad: clamav (source: clamav): anti-virus utility for Unix - command-line interface. In component main, is optional. Version 0.99+dfsg-1ubuntu1 (xenial), package size 98 kB, installed size 726 kB15:17
wadThanks!15:17
lotuspsychjewad: is this for desktop computer or server?15:17
waddesktop15:17
MacroManlotuspsychje, Thanks. Running do-release-upgrade -d seems to have done the trick.15:17
lotuspsychje!yay | MacroMan15:17
ubottuMacroMan: Glad you made it! :-)15:17
wadclamav still hte best choice?15:17
ak-Boulethi there15:18
lotuspsychjewad: depends what your hunting for15:18
wadSomething that will get the IT department off my back....15:18
youzi中文房间15:19
lotuspsychjewad: its not like you running services on your box or so?15:19
lotuspsychje!zh | youzi15:19
wadNaw, just a development machine.15:19
ubottuyouzi: 如欲獲得中文的協助,請輸入 /join #ubuntu-cn 或 /join #ubuntu-tw15:19
lotuspsychjewad: openssh installed?15:19
wadyes15:19
wadAnd openssh-server.15:20
lotuspsychje!info fail2ban | wad15:20
ubottuwad: fail2ban (source: fail2ban): ban hosts that cause multiple authentication errors. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.3-1 (xenial), package size 221 kB, installed size 1152 kB15:20
wadOh yeah, I love fail2ban. Been running it on my servers for years. Didn't even think about putting it on my desktop...15:20
lotuspsychjewad: your ubuntu box connected to the rest of the network? windows? linux?15:21
youziwendu.c:5:1: warning: return type defaults to ‘int’ [-Wimplicit-int]15:22
youzi main()  这个提示什么意思15:22
wadThe network is huge. Lots of Windows, Mac, Linux.15:22
lotuspsychjewad: your box has samba connections?15:22
wadNo samba.15:22
youziwendu.c:5:1: warning: return type defaults to ‘int’ [-Wimplicit-int]15:23
youzi main()  这个提示什么意思啊15:23
lotuspsychje!security | wad for deeper hardening15:23
ubottuwad for deeper hardening: Security Updates are dealt with here:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Security - See also !root, !firewall, !server, and !usn15:23
lotuspsychjewad: ufw, rkhunter and snort might also be handy15:24
wadOkay, thanks for the tips!15:25
lotuspsychjewad: good luck with your angry IT department :p15:25
wadThanks.15:26
youziwendu.c:5:1: warning: return type defaults to ‘int’ [-Wimplicit-int]  main()  这个提示什么意思15:26
wadThey told me that I couldn't use linux, that I had to use Windows, for "security reasons". I was like, "Do you see any irony here? No?"15:26
lotuspsychjewad: lol :p15:26
wadSo I'm running Ubuntu under Virtualbox. For security....  (-‸ლ)15:27
wadWorking to get the company policy fixed.15:27
wadAny ammo you can pass on would be appreciated.15:28
ogra_talk them into win10 ... then you can run ubuntu natively ;)15:28
mortenmIs it not safe to upgrade to ubuntu 16.04 if your grafic card is an AMD card?15:28
wadI'm on win10. And running bash isn't the same as running Ubuntu natively....15:29
ogra_wad: is wasnt actually serious ;)15:29
wadogra_, sorry, I didn't notice the </sarcasm> tag. :)15:29
lotuspsychjemortenm: wich version your on right now and wich driver in use?15:30
rp2wad: there are plenty of options, e.g. see https://www.av-test.org/en/news/news-single-view/linux-16-security-packages-against-windows-and-linux-malware-put-to-the-test/15:31
* wad clicks15:31
OerHeksmortenm, it is safe, only the proprietary AMD Catalyst (fglrx) driver has been t̶e̶m̶p̶o̶r̶a̶r̶i̶l̶y̶ removed the Ubuntu 16.04 LTS repositories, as it is not yet ported to X.Org Server 1.815:31
mortenmgrafics is Gallium 0.4 on AMD RV635 (DRM 2.43.0, LLVM 3.6.2).. Runing ububntu 15.10 now15:31
mortenmOk thx.. safe then..15:32
mortenmthx... Have a nice day all :-)15:33
jayjowhat does rc stand for in bashrc?15:40
somsipjayjo: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/11030552/what-does-rc-mean-in-dot-files15:41
jayjosomsip: runtime configuration15:41
jayjonice15:41
cdiddif you launch gedit from root on 16.04, it has client side decorations. How to make it use client side decorations in user mode?15:42
cdiddThe emptiness of toolbar irritates me.15:43
xanguacdidd: install gnome shell15:44
cdiddxangua, I don't want gnome-shell. I want csd in my gedit in unity. root's gedit has empty home dir, it means csd is disabled by something in my user dir environment.15:45
kalexycobonsoir15:45
lotuspsychje!fr | kalexyco15:45
ubottukalexyco: Nous sommes desoles mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci.15:45
bennabiyhow do I manually set up static IP and interface names in 16.04?15:46
tewardbennabiy: with predictable network interface naming that exists in Xenial, it should already be 'static' for interfaces, unless your interfaces change frequently15:46
tewardbennabiy: static IP configuration remains the same as it has been in the past15:46
Skaaghow do you install java these days? I tried default-jdk and default-jre and both are installed and I still don't have a 'java' binary15:46
SkaagI'm running 16.0415:47
bennabiyteward: I am used to using /etc/network/interfaces15:47
tewardbennabiy: you still can15:47
bennabiyand the eth*15:47
bennabiywhat is setting the enp2s0 type name?15:47
bennabiynetworkd?15:47
tewardbennabiy: the kernel - it uses predictable network interface naming15:47
bennabiyor udev?15:47
bennabiyWhere can I get more info teward ?15:48
tewardbennabiy: enp2s0 isn't going to 'change' though - eth0 and eth1, etc. were not predictive15:48
tewardbennabiy: more info on... what?15:48
dannymichelhttps://discussions.agilebits.com/discussion/42126/making-1password-work-in-ubuntu-14-04 that doesnt seem to be working. i followed it to the T. anyone use 1password/wine?15:48
tewardbennabiy: https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames/ <-- more info on Predictable Network Interface Names15:48
cdiddSkaag probably openjdk15:48
bennabiyteward: thank you15:48
tewardbennabiy: just replace 'eth0', etc. with the interface names listed in `ifconfig -a`15:48
joe_bAnyone getting ridiculous overheating issues with an i7 haswell on 16.04?15:48
tewardbennabiy: no difference in how to configure /etc/network/interfaces from before, except you have to use a different interface name than 'ethX'15:49
sylvain31Hi, what does replace dh_pysupport which was in the package python-support, which doesn't exist  in 16.04?15:49
bennabiyteward: thank you. I just was not used to the names, and wondered where they came from15:49
bennabiyteward: the link helps15:50
cdiddSkaag sudo update-alternatives --config java15:50
tewardbennabiy: you're welcome!  You can always make manual udev rules to enforce naming the old way, but I would advise against it unless you know what you're doing, because the predictable netowrk interface way means it always gets that name15:50
bennabiyteward: I am used to forcing name based on mac ID through udev15:51
bennabiyteward: I will try the predictable names and see if it is stable enough for my use case15:51
joe_bAnyone getting ridiculous overheating issues with an i7 haswell on 16.04? I'm idleing at 75-8515:51
tewardbennabiy: you still can if you wish - i'm just saying you don't *have* to in the long term15:51
bennabiyteward: understood15:51
bennabiyteward: the new name just threw me off15:52
ikoniajoe_b: you understand that i7 is probably nothing to do it, it's more likley the chipset and sensors on your board15:52
joe_bikonia: In windows it's totally fine, idles at 35-40*, I know its not the sensors15:53
ikoniano you don't15:53
pitiyeguys i cannot install ubuntu coz halfway after on installation process my laptop gets automatically shut down,  so i am looking for a wubi like solution for this issue. debootstrap does not work either. it gives tons of problems , any working action plan for this ?15:53
ikoniajust because the sensors and power managment is fully supported in windows, doesn't mean it is in linux15:53
ikoniapitiye: I'd be more interested why your laptop shuts down, rather than looking for terrible install options15:54
joe_bikonia: would you know how to diagnose sensors so we can confirm?15:54
pitiyeikonia: overheating most probably !15:54
ikoniajoe_b: get the chipsets and look at their support status in linux15:54
pitiyeikonia: it happened for both ubuntu and lubuntu !15:54
ikoniapitiye: so then a different install method is not the answer15:54
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pitiyeikonia: why not, wubi like install might work,  right now iam on 15.04 and its very stable , and does not overheat my laptop !15:55
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CacheMoneyradeon_gem_object_create:62 alloc size 79Mb bigger than 64Mb limit15:55
CacheMoneycurrent getting that error in dmesg15:55
CacheMoneywhen loading KDE for the first time15:56
ikoniapitiye: a.) wubi is dead b.) if may still cause over heating c.) you still have a core problem of overheatig you'll need to address15:56
pitiyeikonia: overheating is an issue when comes to using the gpu , which i dont use at all, coz i dont play games. mine is a Nvidia Optimus laptop,  i believe gpu is the culprit !15:57
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ikoniapitiye: doesn't change what I said15:57
joe_bikonia: chipset is Haswell i7-4700MQ cant find a site that describes if it's supported or not, do you know of one?15:57
vultyrepitiye: I had issues with my nvidia Optimus laptop overheating even when idling15:57
ikoniajoe_b: thats the cpu isn't it, not the chipset ?15:58
vultyreI don't have it anymore but it can be an issue even under low demand15:58
joe_bikonia: my appologies i didnt know there was a difference15:58
pitiyeikonia: but i am using 15.04 and it does not overheat at all !15:58
ikoniapitiye: not sure what that has to do with it ?15:58
pitiyevultyre: i guess the GPU is the issue, when it's clock goes up gpu temp ramps up rapidly !15:59
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vultyrePitiye: http://askubuntu.com/questions/758972/does-ubuntu-16-04-support-hybrid-grafics-cards-bumblebee. It looks like support for bumblebee was deprecated in 16.0416:00
vultyrePitiye I switched laptops before 15.04 so I'm not sure if bumblebee was previously configured automatically in previous releases16:01
vultyrePitiye: it was not automatic when I was using 12.10 though16:02
pitiyevultyre: bumblebee was never automatically configured !16:02
sylvain31is there's some specific channel about .deb package building I got a missing command in 16.04 dh_pysupport doesn't seem to exist any more?16:02
pitiyevultyre: i had to manually install every time16:02
RickyB98hello :) i burned the ubuntu server iso on a cd and would like to install it on an old computer that has windows xp on it. i would like to partition the drive. will i lose any file i have on the hard disk now?16:02
ikoniaRickyB98: depends how you partition it16:02
RickyB98ikonia: how should i partition it not to lose data?16:03
ikoniaRickyB98: don't delete the old partition16:03
RickyB98okay16:03
RickyB98will ask here if i have doubts16:03
Stephen44U won't rickyb92.. Jus click on install along side windows and it'll ask you to resize16:04
DirtyCajunwill dd overwrite the first 2048 bits on the HDD?16:05
ikoniaif you tell it to16:05
DirtyCajundd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb ??16:05
ikoniathat will write zeros on the whole disk16:05
wwswis it possible to install version of openssl  in ubuntu 16.04 from ubuntu 14.04 ?16:05
ikoniawwsw: no16:06
wwswok, thx16:06
DirtyCajunok good. my hard drive is saying its a zfs member no matter how i format it. i want to make sure it deletes the first bits where everything is stored. sound right?16:06
ikoniawwsw: use 14.04 repos for 14.04 hosts16:06
donofriolubuntu-16.04 is working great on my ibook g4 but if anyone has any url's about getting sound, wifi, video 3d(ati) working on my hardware http://apaste.info/cUs - Please let me know what I have to modprobe to get this 99% working16:06
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EvilRoeyhi16:07
wwswikonia: ok, but t is possible to compile older version openssl in 16.04 that from repos ?16:07
ikoniawwsw: that is a very very bad idea16:08
lernerwhats the cli version of sysinfo again?16:08
EvilRoeyשלום16:08
lotuspsychjelerner: inxi?16:08
OerHeksdonofrio, as the proprietary AMD Catalyst (fglrx) driver has been t̶e̶m̶p̶o̶r̶a̶r̶i̶l̶y̶ removed the Ubuntu 16.04 LTS repositories, as it is not yet ported to X.Org Server 1.8, your video only works with the open driver .. btw why don't you ask in #debian, you clearly don't run ubuntu16:10
EvilRoeytest16:10
donofrioOerHeks, hu?  I loaded ubuntu on three ibooks last night, how can you say I don't run ubuntu?  16.04 lubuntu is what I curn to dvd16:11
EvilRoeytest216:11
EvilRoeyhrm16:11
OerHeksdonofrio, not from you post.16:11
donofrioOerHeks, do you have custom sources.list for fglrx usage even if not mainline supported16:11
ben__I did something stupid last night, accidentally installed 32-bit instead of 64-bit because I thought Core 2 Quad was 32 bit16:11
ben__only found out when I couldn't play Cities: Skylines16:12
ikoniaben__: reinstall 64bit then16:12
ben__I did now16:12
ben__*I have now16:12
ikoniadonofrio: so your pastebin shows you running debian16:12
ben__well, actually, I decided to try Xubuntu instead16:12
donofrioOerHeks, oh because the inxi looked like debain 8 yah cause that is my first try thought ppc was abandoned by ubuntu afetr 12.04 but looks like its alive and well16:12
donofrioikonia, that is just so I can get you good folks my hwinfo16:12
ikoniadonofrio: ?16:12
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OerHeksdonofrio, i have no souceslist wit working ati drivers, i gave you the reason why you should stick to the opendriver16:13
donofrioOerHeks, is open driver enought to run kodi.tv (aka need it to be hardware renedering I believe)16:14
k1l_donofrio: there is no fglrx for 16.04. there is nothing you can change.16:14
OerHeksdonofrio, no idea if that radeon 9550 can do that, test it yourself?16:15
k1l_donofrio: amd is not making the fglrx for the xorg version all new linux distributions will use. use radeon or the new amd_gpu kernel drivers16:15
donofriok1l_, ok I'll try that in 2 hours....still owrking just wanna get these powerpc boxes working, I got two g5 cheese graters, 5 mac mini's 7 powerpc notebooks, titainum to ibook g4's so yah this is awesome that suppor is still here16:16
TheMontyChristis there a way I can mount a fs the connects to another system via ssh or scp?16:18
TheMontyChristif so, what's a preferred way of doing it?16:18
TheMontyChristpackage, etc16:18
ikoniaTheMontyChrist: what are you actually trying to do16:18
ikoniaTheMontyChrist: what Distribution16:18
TheMontyChristthere's a directory of files on another machine that I'd like to access as if it were mounted16:19
TheMontyChristubuntu 14.0416:19
dontknowis it possible to install 16.04 on already encrypted luks lvm?16:19
TheMontyChristI only have ssh access to the macine16:19
ikoniadontknow: if you decypty it16:19
dontknowikonia, have you tried?16:19
ikoniaTheMontyChrist: look at "fuse" and "sshfs"16:19
TheMontyChristthere are smb mount points, but unfortunately, the directory I want isn't exposed16:20
ikoniadontknow: not recently16:20
TheMontyChristthanks16:20
k1l_TheMontyChrist: ssh means sftp support.16:20
dontknowikonia, i scare that it doesn't ask password at boot16:20
ikoniadontknow: it will if you put the key there for it16:20
DirtyCajunthat STILL didnt do it. i have wiped this drive 20 different ways. used wipefs... used fdisk. and its still saying zfs_member when i blkid. any help?16:20
ikoniadontknow: but to be honest, I don't know how you can have it already encypted and expect to use it for a different distro16:21
ikoniathis sounds like another one of your bad ideas16:21
dontknowikonia, all i need to decrypt and install right?16:21
MoPacHello. I've started getting an awful error with LibreOffice in 16.04.  Opening many dialog windows crashes the entire session -- e.g., the automated document recovery menu on start will display garbled text and buttons, then actually pressing them usually results in a trip to the login screen.16:21
MoPacSyslog shows the PackageKit daemon quitting on an error and then a GPU hang (this is i915, and [drm] prefaces a number of messages]. Question: should I only consider this a graphics stack error? Or, since this only happens in LibreOffice, should I also be trying to trace/report/debug on that side?  I want to resolve this as quickly as I can, since it's totally blocking...16:21
RickyB98my computer is saying: This kernel requires an x86-64 CPU, but only detected an i686 CPU. Unable to boot - please use a kernel appropriate for your CPU.16:21
ikoniadontknow: how do you expect to use this16:21
RickyB98what does that mean? do i have to use the 32bit version?16:21
dontknowikonia, what do you mean?16:21
duryhi there channel :-)16:21
ikoniadontknow: well, you have a luks volume I'm guessing16:22
dontknowikonia, yes. i can open it and ubuntu sees it in the installer16:22
ikoniaRickyB98: sounds like you have a 32bit cpu16:22
ikoniadontknow: ok - so if you already have a luks device, how can you partition it for ubuntu16:22
ikoniadontknow: I'm assuming there is already something on the luks partition/device16:22
touil76Hello. I did a fresh install of ubuntu 16.04 on my old computer which has an ati radeon X1300 graphics card. Whenever the screen goes off due to inactivity (screen saver), it cannot be woken up by moving the mouse or hit a key. The same ubuntu 16.04 installed on a laptop with intel graphics does not have this problem. So I guess it's radeon related. Ubuntu says it's using : Gallium 0.4 on ATI RV515.16:22
dontknowikonia, it is already partitioned with lvm and ubuntu sees volumes in installer16:23
ikoniadontknow: so this sounds like you are creating a problem, as ubuntu won't know about those volume groups post install unless you scan, activate and configure them16:23
ikoniadontknow: is there anything on this luks device already ?16:23
ikoniaas in any data16:23
dontknowikonia, yes. there is volume for my home, root and files16:24
dontknowhome and root will be formatted16:24
OerHeksDirtyCajun, did you 'destroy' that zfs disk in your config? zfs destroy -f /path/bla/bla >> http://docs.oracle.com/cd/E19253-01/819-5461/gamnq/index.html16:24
ikoniadontknow: so technically it will work, although I suspect you're going to end up creating a problem16:25
DirtyCajunOerHeks: it was NEVER a zfs in the first place16:25
duryjust install 14.04 through mini iso LXDE desktop environment old computer goes right. the point is to login automatically without typing the password16:25
dontknowikonia, yeah that is what i am scare of16:25
green_snowsome time ago I installed ubuntu on my pendrive, now I try to boot it, and my computer tells me: "No bootmgr found. Press any key to restart"16:25
green_snowis there any way to rescue it?16:25
k1l_RickyB98: what cpu is it?16:26
bcardarellaok, new issue: after I changed the server name to `dockyard@production` we have a script that was previously doing Node.connect(:"dockyard@127.0.0.1") and I updated those but now I get: "16:25:21.605 [error] ** System running to use fully qualified hostnames **   ** Hostname production is illegal **"16:26
dontknowgreen_snow, is it persistent install?16:26
RickyB98k1l_: no idea, it's an old computer..16:26
green_snowyes16:26
RickyB98intel centrino16:26
green_snowwith casper-rw16:26
RickyB98intel inside centrino or something16:27
k1l_RickyB98: details matter here. can you boot a live usb?16:27
RickyB98i might, but i don't have one available atm16:27
duryI mean when I switch on the PC to go directly to LXDE desktop16:27
RickyB98but maybe it's just that the cpu is not x6416:28
k1l_RickyB98: because some old cpus are 32bit only. and some can run 64bit but they hide that. so details matter a lot16:28
duryis that autologin?16:28
RickyB98ah16:28
RickyB98well hang on i'll find the model on internet k1l_16:28
OerHeksdury, easy to disable, http://askubuntu.com/questions/182274/how-to-disable-autologin-in-lubuntu16:29
green_snowoh well... could this be caused by NTFS...?16:30
RickyB98k1l_: http://www.toshiba.it/discontinued-products/satellite-m60-166/16:30
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duryOerHerks, it's not to disable, I guess it's to enable, isn't it?16:31
OerHeksdury, ??? i read hoto disable it ..16:31
OerHeks*howto16:31
acebookhow can i run "service foo restart" without sudo16:33
ikoniayou can't16:33
RickyB98k1l_: it might be intel pentium m75016:33
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duryOerHerks, so... did u catch it what I want?16:35
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OerHeksdury, you want no autologin, right?16:36
fatkhurselamat malam para master16:37
somsip!id | fatkhur16:37
ubottufatkhur: join ke #ubuntu-id untuk membahas ubuntu dalam bahasa Indonesia16:37
duryOerHerks, no autologin 'cause when the computer starts it asks me the pwd16:38
duryOerHerks, see?16:38
duryOerHerks, sorry, I want autologin16:39
OerHeksdury, ah oke, then yes, that is the place to set it to autologin16:39
OerHeksand disable it if you need to16:39
k1l_RickyB98: no 64bit for that16:40
RickyB98alright16:40
RickyB98thanks :)16:40
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duryOerHerks, autologin means switch the pc and goes straight to X environment, right?16:41
k1l_dury: the login-screen (lightdm) is alredy X16:41
k1l_*already16:41
RedbeardtCan someone help me safely eject my USB drive? This bloody mediscanner-exctractor and mediascanner-service-2.0 won't stop playing with it!16:41
k1l_dury: autologin means it doesnt ask for user and password but loads straight to the desktop from one user.16:42
EriC^^!find mediascanner-service-2.016:42
ubottuFound: W:, W:, W:, W:, W:, W:, W:, W:, W:, W: (and 11 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=mediascanner-service-2.0&searchon=names&suite=xenial&section=all16:42
duryright16:42
EriC^^Redbeardt: type lsblk, if none of the partitions are mounted then unplug it16:42
Redbeardtone is mounted16:43
ThePendulumI'm trying to enter unicode characters but ctrl + shift + U doesn't do anything, any ideas?16:43
EriC^^Redbeardt: sudo umount /dev/sdxY16:43
duryk1l_, right16:43
Redbeardttarget is busy16:44
Redbeardtit says16:44
EriC^^Redbeardt: are you cd'd into it in any shell?16:44
green_snowany way to repair ubuntu boot loader under windows?16:44
squintyRedbeardt,  tried right clicking on usb icon -> eject parent drive16:44
Redbeardtnah16:44
EriC^^Redbeardt: try sudo lsof | grep /mountpoint16:44
MoPacIs there an Ubuntu/Launchpad project/package where I would file a GPU hang bug (Intel / i915 / drm)?  Or is that something that has to go upstream to the FreeDesktop.org tracker?16:44
duryk1l_, so configure it by gui and editing default.conf both ... ?16:44
Redbeardt6 apps showed up16:45
OerHeksdury, no, ór the default.conf or the gui app, the app controls that default conf16:45
Redbeardtthere's a lot of photos on the drive.. looks like it's doing something with them16:45
RedbeardtI wonder what would be the downside of killin this mediascanner-servie thing16:46
lotuspsychjeRedbeardt: dont kill something too fast, investigate whats happening16:47
duryOerHerks, if the account type is administrator what's happen?16:47
RedbeardtAlright im having a dig about16:47
duryOerHerks, setup it as custom or what?16:47
lotuspsychjeRedbeardt: tail -f /var/log/syslog or demsg might help perhaps?16:47
lotuspsychje*dmesg16:48
effectneti just wanna view the free software in the software center16:48
OerHeksdury, 'administrator'  is the 1st account created during install, it has sudo priv., just keep it that way16:49
RedbeardtOh there's a tonne of lines about 'com.canonical.MediaScanner2.Extractor' 'Extracting metadata from [photos on drive]'16:49
RedbeardtIn syslog, that is16:50
duryOerHerks, see what I can do... the machine it's in other house... catch you later.... thanks indeed really appreciate it :-)16:50
OerHeksdury, have fun!16:50
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lotuspsychjeRedbeardt: ubuntu version?16:53
Redbeardt16.04 LTS16:54
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lotuspsychjeRedbeardt: check if this bug is related: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mediascanner2/+bug/129430316:56
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1294303 in mediascanner2 (Ubuntu) "Mediascanner-service-2 process is killing HD and consumes lot of CPU" [Medium,Fix released]16:56
lotuspsychjeRedbeardt: if not, perhaps file a new bug16:56
OerHeksecho manual >> ~/.config/upstart/mediascanner-2.0.override   >>> http://askubuntu.com/questions/541928/how-to-disable-mediascanner-service16:57
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MonkeyDustecho rtfm >>> http://askubuntu.com/questions/541928/how-to-disable-mediascanner-service16:58
ThePendulumI'm trying to enter unicode characters but ctrl + shift + U doesn't do anything, any ideas?17:06
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ice9if sometimes nautilus is not detecting usb hd automatically or doesn't ask for it's decryption password; is there a service to restart without rebooting the pc?17:11
OerHeksThePendulum, ctrl+shift+u, release, type code, then type space or enter, you will see the char appear17:11
ThePendulumOerHeks: could you give me a code that you are 100% certain works?17:13
ThePendulumbecause that's what I've been doing, it just types in the literal code17:13
ThePendulumno underlined u shows up either17:13
OerHeks1254 125417:13
OerHeks17:13
ThePendulum125417:14
ThePendulumthat's it17:14
albert_125417:14
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albertofwbtest17:14
ThePendulumOerHeks: what input profile are you using?17:14
albertofwbI am in17:14
OerHeksusa with dead keys17:15
albertofwbby the default input profile17:15
albertofwbI never modify it17:15
albertofwbI found nothing new on ubuntu 16.0417:15
ThePendulumyeah I'm using US Int with dead keys as well17:15
ThePendulumI've never seen alt codes work17:16
albertofwbwhat time is it?17:16
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yaccCurious, but can the Android Aquarius M10 be upgrade to Ubuntu Touch?17:17
OerHeksyacc, i think so, better reask in #ubuntu-touch17:18
TJ-ThePendulum: which Ctrl and Shift are you pressing? those on the left side of the keyboard?17:18
voozeIs there some way you can make the developers see a bug faster? I have reported it, and its been confirmed because 1 and 3 others are marked as affected.17:18
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OerHeksTJ-, both sides work here fine, ctrl shift u, ehn the u appears, release, and type the 4 digit code + space17:19
albertofwbdo you play games ?17:19
TJ-OerHeks: yes, usually they do but I've seen some keyboards that differentiate17:19
ThePendulumTJ-: oh, yes, is that wrong? am I wrong?17:19
ThePendulumnot that the other ones work :P17:20
squintyfwiw both sides work here too17:20
TJ-ThePendulum: it was just an idea if you're seeing problems. Does your keyboard have a special function key, usually called Fn, to access alternate scan-codes?17:21
ThePendulumTJ-: it has a function key, yes17:21
TJ-ThePendulum: is it a USB keyboard?17:21
ThePendulumyes17:21
ThePendulumI could plug it into PS/2 I suppose17:21
ThePendulumI should point out that in my keyboard shortcut settings, Compose Key and Alternative Characters Key are disabled17:21
OerHeksahh fn keyboard.17:21
TJ-ThePendulum: Run this and then see what codes are generated: "xev"17:21
ThePendulumquite a few17:22
TJ-Re-enable the Compose key17:22
ThePendulumwhat do I set it to?17:22
TJ-ha! i'd have to look... right-alt-gr I think? anyone know?17:22
TJ-ThePendulum: ahh, they're disabled on mine too, so ignore that idea17:23
ThePendulumhah17:23
ThePendulumI must've had this issue for years now, not sure if I even ever got them to work on windows17:24
qqqqqsjoin #techiechan17:24
ThePendulumI'm not sure if it's just something people tell me to mess with me17:24
ThePendulumlike people telling you alt+f4 plays some music17:24
TJ-ThePendulum: I've used them for years on several OSs17:25
ThePendulumyeah right :P17:25
TJ-ê = right-alt-gr + ', release, then e17:26
TJ-ThePendulum: does the keyboard have any alternate mode keys, such as one that enables/disabled the F1-F12 keys to be those or some media fuctions? I've a logitech that does that, and the state of that toggle might affect this17:27
ThePendulumTJ-: it's almost fully programmable but it has nothing assigned that I know of17:28
ThePendulumit doesn't work with my previous dumber keyboards either17:28
TJ-ሴ that's on a Logitech USB keyboard, doing left Ctrl + shift + U, release, space17:28
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TJ-ha.... release, 1234, space17:28
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x-fakhi17:31
x-faki'm running ubuntu under ARM64 arch on Odroid, the latest version of kodi i can install from apt-get install kodi = 15.2 is this normal i dont have the Kodi 16.1 from apt?17:32
riqjhello everyone, I'm copying files from hdd to a thumbdrive, and the process has taken abnormally long. what can be the reason?17:33
MonkeyDustx-fak  #ubuntu-arm17:33
riqjnot only long but it's slowing down the computer, too17:33
x-fakMonkeyDust , ok i asked thank17:34
x-fakMonkeyDust , but they dont answer :)17:38
MonkeyDustx-fak  wait longer17:39
ThePendulumTJ-: you made me realize I don't own any keyboards without function keys anymore17:39
ThePendulumI have a really basic one downstairs, let me try that one17:40
ThePendulumI'd be surprised if that's causing issues though17:40
wesleyotugoUbuntu gnome 16.04 keeps freezing17:41
Sick_Rimmithi friends17:42
fathomstoryHey, I dualbooted two flavors of ubuntu, one version I can boot into okay, the other one loops into the boot screen when I type the user name and password. It shows me a command line type screen and just loops17:42
Sick_Rimmithi friendsm10 tablet17:43
Sick_Rimmitconnected to 53 inch plamsa17:43
Sick_Rimmitits awesome17:43
wesleyotugoUbuntu gnome 16.04 keeps freezing17:43
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MonkeyDust!details | wesleyotugo17:44
ubottuwesleyotugo: Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)17:44
fathomstoryI used bootrepairdisk and it says to create a bios boot partition, but i already did that17:44
fathomstoryThese are the times when Windows is far more stable than Linux and I hate windows17:45
wesleyotugoFreshly Installed Ubuntu 16.04 Gnome 3.18, Keeps freezing whenever i try to start an application. The mouse doesnt move so a hot reset is needed.17:46
fathomstorywesleyotugo, Let's try another distro17:46
WoodyPCfathomstory: Can you give me some info on why you had to use a bootrepairdisk?17:46
fathomstoryHey, I dualbooted two flavors of ubuntu, one version I can boot into okay, the other one loops into the boot screen when I type the user name and password. It shows me a command line type screen and just loops17:46
wesleyotugoI am coming over from opensuse, i really want to settle in ubuntu17:47
k1l_fathomstory: fresh installed? what to versions are they exactly?17:47
wesleyotugofathomstory: Reinstall the one that loops again17:47
fathomstoryVanilla 'buntu and trisquel17:47
k1l_fathomstory: and what is not working? which version number?17:47
fathomstorywesleyotugo, oh for fug's sake17:47
fathomstoryI was installing all weekend, it's freaking impossible to dualboot anythingoutside the windows/linux combo17:48
fathomstoryThe devil forbit you dare try linux/linux, linux/bsd or whatever17:48
ThePendulumnever had issues17:48
fathomstorySmashes a laptop across the head of ThePendulum17:49
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k1l_fathomstory: that is not right. please stick to the actual facts. i was asking for them17:49
fathomstoryK1l Thise are the facts17:49
k1l_fathomstory: ok, since you are not interessted in actual ubuntu support please use another channel for your pointless rantings.17:50
fathomstoryFreaking reinstalling endlessly17:50
MonkeyDustfathomstory  stop17:50
fathomstoryThere needs to be a better solution that 'reinstall',17:50
k1l_fathomstory: i asked for details so people in here can actually help you. but you keep beeing busy ranting.17:53
fathomstoryk1l_, Okay, 16.04 for Ubuntu and 7.0 for Trisquel, sorry17:53
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k1l_fathomstory: what is the exact issue with ubuntu 16.04 now?17:53
fathomstoryk1l_, Lost my weekend installing17:53
fathomstoryk1l_,  I dualbooted two flavors of ubuntu, one version I can boot into okay, the other one loops into the boot screen when I type the user name and password. It shows me a command line type screen and just loops17:54
k1l_trisquel is not a flavour of ubuntu. we cant support that.17:54
fathomstoryBwahaha17:54
k1l_so what is the exact issue of ubuntu 16.04?17:55
WoodyPCI typed this into the terminal: sudo lshw-gtk and it works...But right before it starts it shows this text on-screen: (lshw-gtk:4833): IBUS-WARNING **: The owner of /home/myname/.config/ibus/bus is not root!  What does this mean?17:55
fathomstoryOne is a GPL version of 'buntu, the other is proprietary and it is 16.04 that loops17:55
fathomstoryWell, one is Libre and 'buntu 16.04 is not that Libre, but they're both 'buntu and use the same 'positories17:56
k1l_fathomstory: trisquel makes changes to ubuntu we dont know of. ask them for support their version.17:56
k1l_so what video card is it on that machine?17:56
fathomstoryk1l_, So when some porr sod has issues dualbooting with Windows, you say the same? Lame17:56
k1l_fathomstory: ok you have been warned to stop that pointless rantings and offtopic. now you are muted. if you want that mute to be removed ask in #ubuntu-ops17:57
mas886So is there any way I can get good performance in games having an AMD GPU?17:57
mas886On 16.04 of course.17:57
dontknowmas886, i believe it depends on your gpu17:58
vltHello. What is a clean way as root on cli to log out a user?17:59
dontknow16.04 only supports free driver17:59
mas886dontknow my gpu is a R9 280 which I had good performance with the flgrx drivers.17:59
mas886But with the open drivers it doesn't work well.17:59
wesleyotugoThis is what caused the freezing17:59
wesleyotugoApr 26 18:35:28 wesley-HP-Compaq-nw8240-PY442EA-ABB gnome-session[704]: (gnome-shell:1026): mutter-WARNING **: STACK_OP_RAISE_ABOVE: window 0x6901200015 not in stack17:59
wesleyotugoWhat do i do18:00
Apachezrun18:00
dontknowmas886, that's all you got now. you can't install flgrx18:00
k1l_mas886: AMD stopped making fglrx. they make the amd_gpu kernel driver instead. and there is still radeon driver18:00
mas886Hmm okay. So by now there's nothing else I can do but wait right? k1l_ , dontknow18:00
dontknowmas886, right. or install 14.0418:01
mas886Ok18:01
leonarthwhat on earth is this process? can't find anything about it:18:02
leonarthroot      3854  0.2  0.0    216    44 ?        S    13:45   0:02 ./x86_6418:02
wesleyotugoIs there even a support or is it just 1000 Bots18:03
magento_rockswhere can i see the changelog for ubuntu 15.10?18:04
magento_rocksa recent update fucked up something, on all servers running 15.1018:05
TJ-leonarth: "sudo ls -l /proc/3854/*" might give you some additional avenues to find out... 'cat' the cmdline and comm nodes18:05
TJ-magento_rocks: package install history is in /var/log/apt/18:05
TJ-magento_rocks: specific package changelogs under /usr/share/doc/<package-name>/changelog*18:06
magento_rocksTJ- thanks18:07
stacks88im on 14.04. if i run apt-get dist-upgrade, it is not going to force me onto 16.04 right?  because i dont want to use 16.04 right now, i want to wait18:08
TJ-stacks88: correct18:08
WoodyPCThanks to all here who helped in the decision of my new: 1gb GeForce 8400 GS video card. I installed this card yesterday and Finally in the "sound" options, the HDMI/Digital output option came up and now I have video and sound via HDMI on my tv. Thanks to all for the help.18:08
stacks88ok cool18:08
magento_rocksphp5-common:amd64 (5.6.11+dfsg-1ubuntu3.1, 5.6.11+dfsg-1ubuntu3.2)18:08
magento_rocksthat means it was upgrade from 3.1 to 3.2?18:08
TJ-stacks88: dist-upgrade / full-upgrade just means that it will replace older versioned packages with completely new versions if they're available, just as for kernel upgrades18:08
TJ-magento_rocks: yes, and the changelog contains headings that match each version18:09
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magento_rocksok great.  now i just need to "downgrade" to 3.118:10
TJ- magento_rocks apt-get install php5=5.6.11+dfsg-1ubuntu3.1 or similar... probably need to list all the php5* packages that were upgraded, and suffix them with the exact version you want18:12
magento_rockshttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/php5/5.6.11+dfsg-1ubuntu3.2  - the SOAP Client update is causing OOM errors18:12
magento_rocksthanks for your help TJ-, i appreciate it18:12
TJ-magento_rocks: I've added a report bug 1575298  you may want to add some specifics to that to help the developers fix it18:17
ubottubug 1575298 in php5 (Ubuntu) "php5 5.6.11+dfsg-1ubuntu3.2 SOAP Out Of Memory (OOM)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/157529818:17
magento_rocksthanks!  a co-worker traced the failure -- says it is occuring just after the lines patched in php_http.c - line 84218:19
TJ-magento_rocks: add that info please, that will accelerate the fix18:20
alyyygot a question on firewalls with ufw. For some reason it's blocking broadcast packets on a particular port, even though it's explicitly allowed. does ufw like blocking broadcast packets by default or something?18:20
magento_rockswill do18:20
newjersey500 error message at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP18:23
newjerseyor I guess https://help.ubuntu.com/community in general18:23
WoodyPCTJ: How do you fill out a bug report? I mean what program in ubuntu14.04lts 64bit do I open in order to do that?18:24
OerHeks!bug18:24
ubottuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs.18:24
TJ-WoodyPC: I usually do it manually from the luanchpad web site, but if you have a bug occuring and have a local crash file you can run "ubuntu-bug" (see man ubuntu-bug")18:25
WoodyPCok18:25
DJonesnewjersey: Looks like a website issue, just reported it to the ubuntu website team18:25
newjerseythanks DJones18:25
erasmusanyone use firewire or thunderbolt to transfer files from a mac to a linux box?18:26
newjerseynope18:26
DJonesnewjersey: Maybe give it an hour and then retry18:26
erasmusI can't really find any info online about it18:26
erasmusI can see how it's done on the mac side but very little is said about it on the linux side18:27
newjerseyhow would that work?18:27
seoushiHi, I'm trying to ssh into my home machine with X11 forwarding. Which seems to work however most of the programs just segfault. when I do an strace it's seems that it's having an issue loading libGLX_indirect.so.0. Any ideas?18:27
erasmusnewjersey me?18:27
erasmusI have an i7 running ubuntu with thunderbolt and a mbp with thunderbolt18:27
erasmusjust want to get them to talk to each other18:28
erasmusmostly for backing up data18:28
newjerseyyes, but you'd need to set up a server on one machine and sort of have a shared folder?18:28
MonkeyDustwhat mbp and thunderbolt?18:28
MonkeyDustwhat's mbp and thunderbolt?18:28
newjerseywould it be easier to set up a ftp server on the ubuntu machine?18:29
erasmusmacbookpro18:29
erasmusyeah but will they see each other18:29
erasmusI know I can do it in taarget disk mode on the mac18:29
newjerseyif they're connected to the same router18:29
erasmusbut I don't want to have to do that18:29
erasmusit would be a direct connection18:29
erasmusno ethernet18:29
erasmustoo slow18:29
erasmusI guess thunderbolt and linux aren't really there yet18:30
newjerseyerasmus, how would you authenticate on the mac from ubuntu?18:31
newjerseyhow does this work between two macs?18:31
erasmusI'd just ssh18:31
erasmusscp18:31
erasmusideally rsync18:31
newjerseyI just found this https://support.apple.com/kb/PH19021?locale=en_US which is crap18:32
TJ-erasmus: you can network over IEE1394, probably the same for thunderbolt but never investigated that18:33
vltHello. What is a clean way as root on cli to log out a user?18:33
bluebirchvlt: pkill -u username18:34
bluebirchvlt: although perhaps not that very clean :-)18:35
vltbluebirch: Thank you!18:35
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DJonesnewjersey: Looks like the website is back up and working ok18:41
newjerseywoot18:41
yonishai18:42
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ThePendulumDoes anyone know why Ctrl + Shift + U is not getting me into unicode mode?18:49
opwallinhas any one idea why postfix try send always to use port 2518:49
lotuspsychjeopwallin: the #ubuntu-server guys might know that one18:50
opwallinok i change channel18:50
naccopwallin: that's the default smtp port, iirc18:51
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opwallinmacc what is 587 is then ?18:54
sebsebseb 18:54
MonkeyDustopwallin  less /etc/services18:57
opwallinjust smtp and urd in 46518:59
_ryanv_I19:02
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lotuspsychjereisio: found it in ccsm/expo/apearance/incative viewports http://imgur.com/GnbxATe tnx again!19:05
reisiolotuspsychje: workspace dark/light thing?19:06
reisiogj19:06
lotuspsychjereisio: yes, got them all 4 to 100%19:06
reisionice19:06
reisiohoorah for configurable free/open source software, what what19:06
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lotuspsychjereisio: and while i was there, got wobbly windows aswell and got a perfect xenial now19:07
reisioyeah, lot of cute unnecessary things compiz supports :p19:08
lotuspsychjelol19:08
reisioeven a heap of things they don't even official support anymore19:08
reisiocubemodel atlantis tile fakeargb elements snow mswitch19:08
lotuspsychjereisio: found  the extra bunch in compiz-plugins-extras19:09
reisioI think 'tile' is the exposé clone? That one's almost useful19:09
reisiothere's compiz-plugins-unsupported, too19:09
reisiobut it's harder to acquire19:09
bviktorhow do i make a make an unmanaged device managed with nmcli?19:09
reisioand probably less missed :p19:09
reisiomanaged?19:10
bviktoryup19:10
reisiodon't you just configure it at all with nm?19:10
bviktori would19:10
bviktorexcept19:10
reisioand then nm is controlling it like a zombie overlord19:10
bviktorError: Failed to add/activate new connection: Connection 'ens5f0' is not available on the device ens5f0 at this time.19:10
bviktorens5f0      ethernet  unmanaged    --19:10
reisiois it in ls -Al /sys/class/net/ ?19:10
bviktorGENERAL.STATE:                          10 (unmanaged)19:10
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bviktorit is19:11
bviktori assume this is because previously it was managed via /etc/network/interfaces19:11
TJ-magento_rocks: Marc (security team) is publishing a fix now, keep an eye on the bug there'll be a package to test19:11
reisiooh my, uhhhh19:12
reisionature has sent me a coffee telegram, brb :p19:12
bviktoron another comp i just removed the relevant config from /etc/network/interfaces, restarted networking.service, set it up via networkmanager, and that's it19:12
bviktorbut here it just won't work19:12
bviktorduh19:14
bviktori restarted the networkmanager service *before* removing the crap from /etc/network/interfaces so it assumed that interface is still managed via that file19:15
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bviktoralright i think it's all good now19:16
pedritonice19:16
inocuousin my ubunto the balloon notifications are being displayed in a linear fashion, mean one at a time is displayed until all are shown on screen. I need this to be more real time as they actually occur. Anyone have any feedback on this?19:18
SvenBohi19:18
inocuoushi19:18
SvenBoJust testint the XChat App on my Ubuntu tablet.19:19
bviktorhexchat ftw!19:19
inocuoushexchat is great19:19
inocuousis xchat still being supported and developed?19:19
vexarewhy doesnt upstart properly work on lts 16?19:19
zykotick9inocuous: nope...19:19
ioria!info xchat19:19
ubottuPackage xchat does not exist in xenial19:19
iorianope19:19
vexareit boots to terminal19:19
pedritoxchat is replaced by hexchat19:19
inocuousthat's what I thought.19:20
SvenBoDoes anyone know when notifications in Dekko will work?19:20
vexarei get a working desktop by login and startx19:20
pedritoinocuous: notifications for what?19:20
SvenBoFor new mails.19:20
inocuousare they not all handled by one app in the OS pedrito ?19:21
pedritoxchat's developer became insane, the free software world has no tolerance for that, requires no tolerance for that19:21
cmb_inocuous, or you could try xchat-gnome19:21
vexareso is there any way to fix upstart booting?19:21
pedritoinocuous: they are, but if you were more clear, you could get better help19:21
ioriaxchat-gnome is not xchat :°°°(19:22
lotuspsychje!touch | SvenBo19:22
ubottuSvenBo: Information about the Ubuntu Touch platform for Phone and Tablet is available here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch . Support and discussion in #ubuntu-touch19:22
DJonesinocuous: Looks like xchat hasn't been update since 201019:22
inocuousI don't know how to be more clear. the notifications are displayed one at a time, after a certain amojnt of time they clear and then the next one appears.19:22
Bashing-omvexare: There is no "upstart" in 16.04 ... it is systemd as the control authoruty .19:22
tewardinocuous: use hexchat.19:22
Yxhuvudok, so after upgrade to 16.04 I get redirected back to the login screen after typing my password.  Does anyone have a suggestion for where to look for errors?19:23
teward(and not xchat)19:23
pedritoinocuous: which should be fine ordinarily, so again, can you elaborate?19:23
inocuousI'm in hexchat already. big fan. I like it a lot.19:23
Yxhuvudlogin to console only works fine.19:23
vexareBashing-om: you can switch and there's an official guide19:23
pedritoYxhuvud: grep EE /var/log/X*log19:23
vexareit's just half broken19:23
inocuousIt's just that where there are a lot of notifications it can be a long time after the event that the notification appears.19:24
vexareon ubuntu 15 it was fine19:24
lotuspsychjeYxhuvud: sudo service lightdm restart doing something?19:24
Bashing-omvexare: :) .. good to know .19:24
lotuspsychje!info hexchat-indicator | inocuous19:24
ubottuinocuous: hexchat-indicator (source: xchat-indicator): Hexchat Indicator Plugin. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.11-0ubuntu8 (xenial), package size 7 kB, installed size 29 kB19:24
vexarethe bug is reported but it's been 4 days and no fix19:24
le_piglol19:24
Yxhuvudlotus: nope.19:25
lotuspsychjeYxhuvud: tried entering desktop on nomodeset or recoverymode/failsafeX?19:25
Yxhuvudpedrito: ah. failed to init glx due to no drivers found19:25
pedritoinocuous: for hexchat? I honestly always disable balloons, and use the task bar color indicator19:26
pedritoless annoying19:26
pedritoYxhuvud: make sure that's from the very last-made log file in that for, also19:26
inocuousubottu: thans for that, I'll have to google to fully understand it.19:28
ubottuinocuous: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)19:28
itechwebhi19:28
pedritohi19:29
Yxhuvudok, login works after purging nvidia. Now to get it back again, but that I can manage. thanks19:29
pedrito:)19:29
de-factoYxhuvud if you want propietary nvidia try the nvidia-34019:31
YourMomIsUglyHello19:32
pedritothe correct nvidia version will vary by device19:32
pedritohi ymiu19:32
YourMomIsUglyOh shit19:33
YourMomIsUglyI got banned from #gentoo19:33
pedrito:p19:34
YourMomIsUglyjust for telling someone that their mon sucks cocks19:34
pedritoYourMomIsUgly: you'd think people would know that already19:35
DJonesYourMomIsUgly: Thats not something we need to know, please stay on topic - Ubuntu support only here19:36
YourMomIsUglyDJones: okay19:36
YourMomIsUglywhat is the best linux based web browser to surf porn on ubuntu?19:36
pedritofirefox19:37
jimmy_firefox with adblock19:37
pedritoyes19:37
pedritoand flashblock19:37
pedritoalso good for ordinary browsing19:38
hgthHow can I free space on /? My /home is on another partition.19:39
Rave1hgth:  uninstall  programs you dont need19:40
pedritohgth: don't unnecessary have multiple partitions next time19:41
wieurywihgth: sudo apt-get autoclean19:41
lotuspsychjehgth: bleachbit your system19:41
wieurywihgth: sudo apt-get autoremove19:41
nairwolfhi, Is someone here has already tried to write chinese on Ubuntu ? What do you use ? fcitx ?19:42
cmb_hgth, possibly 'sudo apt-get autoremove' if you've got old kernel versions on there (eg if the partition has been used for a while and you've installed updates when they've become available). Or, uninstall programs you don't need. And check whether any logging is filling up your / with anything. Something like 15Gb-20Gb should be plenty.019:42
jimmy_hgth try apt-get purge [package_name]19:43
lotuspsychjenairwolf: perhaps try an ubuntu chinese channel?19:43
cmb_Sorry, autoclean, not autoremove19:43
nairwolfwhich one lotuspsychje ?19:44
lotuspsychje!zh | nairwolf19:44
ubottunairwolf: 如欲獲得中文的協助,請輸入 /join #ubuntu-cn 或 /join #ubuntu-tw19:44
nairwolfoh, thanks ;)19:44
nairwolfI was looking for something like #ubuntu-kylin but there isn't people...19:44
nairwolfThanks lotuspsychje ;)19:44
lotuspsychjenairwolf: welcome :p19:45
theKingBabyhello19:46
pedritohi19:46
hgthcmb_: How would I find unnecessary logs?19:46
wieurywihgth: try sudo apt-get install ncdu19:47
hgthwieurywi: But I’m trying to get rid of software ;)19:47
wieurywihgth: browse /var/log for old syslog.0 or .1 ..etc. dmesg.0 logs19:47
theKingBabyI just used a live ubuntu disk with gparted to delete all my partitions so i could start again (had errors in windows, wanted to upgrade linux also)19:47
theKingBabyI'm wondering what should I do when I have deleted all partitions..19:48
cmb_hgth, what wieurywi said!19:48
theKingBabyleave it all unformatted + deleted (no file system?) , put in windows recovery *first* and format ntfs and then let ubuntu create dual boot with grub etc19:48
cmb_Also: "cd /;sudo du -csh *' will show you where on your root partition the space is being used, and you can investigate why a lot is in one place or another...19:49
theKingBabyor make a specfici windows partition now and install windows into it19:50
jimmy_theKingBaby: If you deleted the whole partition there is not mutch you can do. I suggest if that is possible to reinstall everything. I don't see any guarantee on getting your data back intact if that is what you are worryed about19:51
jimmy_*worried19:52
jimmy_Remember First, install windows because it assumes he is the only OS on the computer, ahd only after that you install linux19:53
theKingBabyno no, i dont care about the data, backed up everything important. Deleted the drives on purpose19:54
theKingBabyyeah okay thats what i was thinking was the best route, thanks jimmy_19:54
theKingBabyso should i leave it all 'deleted'/unformatted or format it to ntfs now?19:54
theKingBabyi have created windows recovery media already19:54
terratomahow can i customize the splash screen in the boot menu used by the Ubuntu server iso ( not Desktop )19:55
jimmy_You can format it to ntfs iw you wanted to, but i guess windows installer will see a large chunk of unformatted space, so it will give you the option of partitioning. Then again I do not use windows!19:55
jimmy_I would go with this: Create all partitions in gparted, then install windows on one of them19:56
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theKingBabyokay i will do that then19:57
theKingBabythanks bro19:57
jimmy_Good luck!19:57
jimmy_anytime :)19:58
hgthThanks for all your advice!19:58
theKingBabyoh one more thing19:58
theKingBabyprimary/extended partitions19:58
llusatoGood night! I have just installed Ubuntu 16.04 and enablea Ubuntu Firewall ufw typing sudo ufw enable. After startup the ufw is disabled I type sudo ufw status and it is disabled. What can I do in order to get ufw enabled after computer startup? Many thanks in advance :)20:00
vitimitillusato, have you tried "sudo systemctl enable ufw"?20:00
vitimitiAnd "sudo systemctl start ufw" so as to start it20:00
llusatoNo what is the difference with sudo ufw enable? Many thanks! :) I'm gonna try it!20:01
jimmy_theKingBaby: I suggest this reading https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DualBoot/Partitions20:02
OerHeksllusato, easy way is to install gufw, the gui for ufw, you will find it in systemsettings ( unless you run server20:02
vitimitillusato, systemctl is the new init system, it's that simple. But yeah, gufw will help you more, specially since it's integrated with the system settings20:03
llusatoyes I have already installed gufw I enable it but after startup it is disabled20:03
OerHeksodd, that does not happen here, once set with gufw, it starts auto20:05
OerHekssystemctl status ufw20:06
llusato● ufw.service - Uncomplicated firewall    Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/ufw.service; enabled; vendor preset: enab    Active: active (exited) since dt 2016-04-26 21:50:42 CEST; 16min ago  Main PID: 232 (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS)     Tasks: 0 (limit: 512)    CGroup: /system.slice/ufw.service20:07
vitimitillusato, then it's enabled right now20:09
ubetcan someone tell me how i can prevent all HDD's from automounting without preventing usb's from automounting20:09
vitimitillusato, do "sudo systemctl enable ufw" to make sure, it won't fail like that (I hope)20:10
ubetor point me to a good article?20:10
llusatook. I have already done it. Can I try to reboot the computer now to check if it is fixed?20:10
ubetI have like 24 HDD that I dont want to see, but i do want other media to be detected after i plug it in20:12
vitimitillusato, yeah, try it20:13
llusatoOk many thanks! Cross fingers! :) Bye! :)20:14
naccubet: per https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount/USB it's not clear how to control it more finely, but youc an disable general automounting with dconf editor20:15
frostschutzubet, create fstab noauto entries for them?20:15
naccubet: you might look into one of the alternative programs mentioned there for maybe a more customizable option than Gnome's general support20:15
OerHeksubet, mounted partitions in /media/ show up, mount them in /mnt/ >> http://askubuntu.com/a/18067720:16
OerHeksugly but not that harmfull20:16
ubetok i'll read through that.20:17
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user7778Hi, I have a crash of the session (and I'm brought back to the login screen) randomly, apparently related with the use/presence of Telegram official client. But I'm not sure it is related.20:19
llusatoHello! I have just asked you to enable ufw after startup. I have typed sudo systemclt start ufw and sudo systemctl enable ufw. Checked it was enabled but after startaup it is not enable! Do you have any solution to this issue? Many thanks in advance! :)20:20
preciseHey guys, I installed Google Earth x64 on my 14.04.4 LTS install...now my touch pad doesn't work... Any ideas?20:22
Hawkeye091543Hello, would anyone be able to help me troubleshoot suspend on a Razer Blade laptop?20:22
Ex0rHmm, would removing apparmor from a ubuntu server 14.04 install 'cause the system to not bootup?20:22
preciseHere is a list of dependencies it requires: Here is a list of dependencies I had to install to get it running at 64bit: http://pastebin.com/U60Gd7fu20:23
Ex0rIn an attempt to try out ISPConfig3 on my server, the installation instructions directed me to remove AppArmor, and now my system halts on startup, and I am wondering if AppArmor not being present is the cause of it.20:23
Ex0rand if it is, can I just use apt-get install apparmor apparmor_profiles and restore it20:24
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jinettehello everyone, my internet connection was gone when I was downloading files from server via filezilla. now I reconnected but the connection has naturally been cut off. how can I reconnect without resetting the transfer, that is, continue from where it was stopped?20:40
jinetteI mean, the transfer has been cut off20:40
tewardjinette: I don't think Filezilla provides that type of functionality20:40
jinetteteward, that I fear, too20:41
jinettejust as I said that, filezilla resumed transfer by itself. so no action is needed to be taken in such cases20:42
llusatoI have been talking to ubuntu webchat in freenode before to try to solve the problem with ufw not enabling after startup. I typed sudo systemctl start ufw and sudo systemctl enable ufw and after reboot ufw is disabled. What can I do to fix this situation and getting ufw enabled after startup automatically?20:43
llusatoMany thanks. :)20:45
alyyyllusato, what version of ubunutu are you on?  I usually run "sudo ufw enable" and everything works fine.  you can look in /etc/ufw/ufw.conf and set ENABLED to "yes" to force it I would think?20:45
llusato16.0420:45
alyyyI'm using an older version of ubuntu so some of that might not apply :p20:45
llusatoI have already done this. Thanks alyyy :)20:46
llusatoI have also tried sudo ufw enable but did not fix it20:46
alyyyllusato, no worries! will it run when you start it up manually? like it's not choking on the config before it starts, right?20:47
llusatoDo you mean if I start up ufw manually if it works? yes manually is enabled but not automatically after reboot20:48
alyyyanything unusual in the logs?20:49
llusatohow can I see it the logs?20:49
llusatosorry but I'm quite new on this ;)20:49
dannymichelI'm able to connect to my time capsule using //10.0.1.1/Data /media/timecapsule  cifs... in fstab, but im not sure where to begin to connect to the hard drive that's actually connected to the time capsule. on windows, it auto-finds the harddrive connected to the time capsule. Any ideas?20:51
alyyyllusato, I'm actually not super sure? older ubuntus you can run this: "less /var/log/ufw.log", but I think you need to use the "journalctl" command.  try "journalctl ufw".20:52
alyyysorry I'm not more help, I don't have 16 installed yet ;)20:53
yaomtcUNetbootin offers an option to preserve files across reboots, but it says "Ubuntu only". Does anyone know if that applies to variants like Lubuntu, too?20:57
tgm4883yaomtc: it should20:58
llusatoHi I have typed journalctl |grep ufw and I got this:20:58
llusatoabr 26 22:17:13 lluis-Inspiron-3521 sudo[2130]:    lluis : TTY=pts/0 ; PWD=/home/lluis ; USER=root ; COMMAND=/usr/sbin/ufw status abr 26 22:17:23 lluis-Inspiron-3521 polkitd(authority=local)[978]: Operator of unix-session:1 successfully authenticated as unix-user:lluis to gain ONE-SHOT authorization for action com.ubuntu.pkexec.gufw for unix-process:2260:7967 [/bin/sh /usr/bin/gufw] (owned by unix-user:lluis) abr 26 22:17:23 lluis-I20:58
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yaomtcthanks tgm488320:59
llusatoabr 26 22:18:04 lluis-Inspiron-3521 gnome-session[1573]: (gnome-software:1869): Gs-WARNING **: gufw.desktop changing management plugin apt->PackageKit20:59
llusatoabr 26 22:17:23 lluis-Inspiron-3521 pkexec[2282]: lluis: Executing command [USER=root] [TTY=unknown] [CWD=/home/lluis] [COMMAND=/usr/bin/gufw-pkexec lluis]21:00
llusatoThere is a warning in the logs21:01
inocuousI got the sound back I think.21:03
dbz2kwhat the way to kubuntu desktop on ubuntu 16.04 without too much bloat?21:05
reisiodbz2k: install kde packs explicitly, rather than with kubuntu-desktop metapackage21:05
reisioalso, you could disable apt recommends21:06
reisiobut the question in general is a wee bit silly :D21:06
reisioKDE is practically the epitome of bloat21:06
reisioonly rivalled by GNOME21:06
dbz2klol but one time I installed another desktop on ubuntu it messed up everything21:06
reisiono, it just doubled your packages is all21:07
reisioso your menus would naturally become messy and doubled and bloated21:07
llusatoalvyyy any suggestion about this logs21:07
reisioI think I've used dpkg -r --force-all ubuntu-desktop; apt-get install xubuntu-desktop; apt-get autoremove in the past, for example, to switch from ubuntu-desktop to xubuntu-desktop21:08
reisioworked out alright, IIRC21:08
llusatoIs there anyone that can help me with this? Many thanks21:10
tewardllusato: help you with... what?21:10
llusatoI enable firewall but after computer startup it is not enabled I have tried many thinks but the problem is still present...21:11
llusatocan you help me with this? Many thanks in advance! :)21:11
user7778hi, I need help with session crashing randomly (think related to lightdm) on Lubuntu, can somebody help? thanks21:11
hecataehelp?21:13
hecataeserver irc?21:13
* hecatae tries joining #ubuntuserver21:14
TLFHello, when upgrading from 15.10 to 16.04 I have a problem in package "pytone": http://paste.ubuntu.com/16071211/ what can I do?21:15
user7778llusato: I know it is not the best way to solve your problem, but could help using a script on startup to launch the firewall?21:16
llusatouser7778 I prefer a clean solution this is not a good way to solve it is not it?21:17
llusatodo you have any idea why is it happening?21:18
user7778No, clearly it isn't :)21:18
user7778No, I'm trying to figure it out...21:19
macskayhi guys im having trouble with a jvm. when starting a sprng application i get a "failed to write core dump." and it suggets setting "ulimit -c unlimited". I've done that and even rebooted but the error persists.21:19
llusatook21:19
llusatotake your time... :)21:19
bobby_hi, does anyone here have this problem in Xenial, randomly while I'm using my OS, the interface completely logs off and sends me back to the logon screen what gives?21:21
k1lbobby_: that sounds like your xserver crashing. i would look into the syslog and Xorg.0.log in /var/log/21:22
reisiobobby_: mmm, is it always after a certain interval? of inactivity?21:23
bobby_well it's usually when I'm multitasking21:23
bobby_see it just happened again!21:25
k1l<k1l> bobby_: that sounds like your xserver crashing. i would look into the syslog and Xorg.0.log in /var/log/21:25
k1land look into the .xsession-errors in your users home21:25
DagdaHey. I did a fresh install of 16.04 but have run into an issue at login. My kb doesn't load properly and no modifiers or function keys are available. Everything is fine during install but this happens on first boot after install. I tried to reinstall 3x but couldn't resolve it, so I reverted back to a fresh install of 14.04. Now I have the same problem with 14.04. I've never seen this before and can't find a solution anywhere. Any suggestions?21:25
bobby_what exactly is an xserver?21:25
k1lbobby_: the programs that runs all the gui with the video drivers.21:26
reisioX is the base of a Unixy desktop environment21:26
reisioall the GUI stuff you see21:26
reisioit has a client/server model21:26
reisiowill be replaced by wayland eventually, and then probably something else after that21:26
reisiodeath & birth, rinse & repeat21:26
bobby_oh ok21:27
bobby_so maybe even if I upgraded my gui it could help?21:27
bobby_I was thinking about installing enlightenment21:27
k1lok. so you dont want to see the cause and fix that. so good luck with installing and reinstalling random stuff.21:28
b-yeeziDagda: have you checked your keyboard layout in settings?21:28
bobby_k1l: I do ok?21:28
bobby_k1l: brb21:28
bronsenaptitude informs me of updates, but I cannot view their changelog: http://nrrd.de/y-u-no-changelog.png  How log does it usually take for changelog to be propagated to the mirrors?21:30
DagdaYes, to clarify, if I go to BIOS, all my keys are available. If I load a Live OS, all my keys are available. This only appears to happen at login. NUM LOCK, CAPS, Shift etc. just stop working, meaning that I can't type in my PW. I've tried changing settings with the Live OS but same happens again. I assumed it was an issue with 16.04 but not so it seems. BIOS settings seem fine too.21:31
bobby_so what should I be looking for in syslog, x.org errors?21:31
k1lbronsen: what package?21:31
k1lbronsen: btw, that ip is down for me, too21:32
user7778llusato: sorry, i can't find any solution for your problem :/ but I'm starting to think it is not related with the warning21:32
b-yeeziit might be the auto-detect of keyboard during install is not doing it right21:32
macskayanybody had a similar issue before?21:33
user7778llusato:sure there is someone with way more knowledge than me21:33
k1lbobby_: for issues with your video driver or with the xserver21:33
bronsenk1l: apt, dpkg, debootstrap, firefox, libmysqlclient, tzdata; other packages' changelog can be found (libpcre, libsnmp, linux-firmware, python-setproctitle)21:33
DagdaPossibly, but I'm using the same install image for 14.04 I've used multiple times in the past without issue, and I've used this 16.04 image to install to a VM on my Mac and to another laptop without issues. I'm at a total loss...21:33
llusatook how can I contact he or she?21:33
k1lbronsen: what ubuntu is that exactly?21:34
bobby_k1l: org.gtk.vfs.Daemon[13336]: ??21:34
bobby_I don't see any x.org issues in the log21:35
k1lbobby_: depends on the exact errormessage21:35
llusatoOk user7778 many thanks for your help I think now it's time to sleep I'll try to ask again the same question tomorrow... good night! :)21:35
bobby_ok I need to go read up on what you told me k1l thanks for your input guys21:36
beejayhello, looking 2 days for solution, i made usb with 16.04 with usb-creator in 15.10; my usb pendrive is write-protected21:36
user7778llusato: as you see I'm here like you to discuss a problem, unfortunately I don't know who could help you better... goodnight and good luck for tomorrow! :)21:36
llusatothanks! Bye! :)21:36
bronsenk1l: I am on 14.04.4; according to "apt-cache profile" package dpkg would be updated from de.archive.ubuntu.com (trusty-updates) or security.ubuntu.com (trusty-security)21:37
bronsenh not profile21:37
bronsenerr policy it is21:37
bronsenbeen using aliases for too long :)21:37
beejayany method to take off write-protection?21:39
k1lbronsen: the new pacakge is referencing http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/d/dpkg/dpkg_1.17.5ubuntu5.6/changelog while there is only a dpkg_1.17.5ubuntu5.5 on the changelogs server21:39
b-yeezibeejay: what are you trying to do? save data to the thumbdrive as you use it?21:40
user7778someone who has the patience to troubleshoot an Xserver log?21:41
beejayi want to have live usb and copy my data to it to21:41
b-yeeziIf so, use Ubuntu's Startup disk creator to make the usb21:42
b-yeeziYou can say how much space you want to use as the persistent drive21:43
beejayi did, but i have 2 partitions and usb write protected, so i can not write, make another partition21:43
beejayit is 32gb, i need around 12gb21:43
beejayalso gparted is showing errors about thumbdrive and that partitions cover each other21:44
b-yeeziYou might need to redo the USB21:45
bronsenk1l: do you know how it usually takes for changelogs to appear?21:45
beejayi can only make new partition table, nothing else21:45
k1lbronsen: here is the changelog: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dpkg/1.17.5ubuntu5.6   i dont know why the changelog server got issues. i asked the admins.21:45
b-yeeziAre you using msdos version of partition table?21:45
beejayi tried different tools - dd, mkusb - same results21:45
bronsenk1l: ah! I hadn't thought of looking at LP, thanks for the pointer!21:45
beejayi guess startup disk creator is making partition table21:46
b-yeeziyes. I'm about to do it now.  I'll let you know21:47
bronsenalthough in this case I read the diff to mean "replace return by exit" and not what the changelog suggests "replace exit by return"21:48
beejayit is showing in gparted mac type partition table21:48
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b-yeeziThere is no option to make a persistent partition in 16.04!21:49
beejayand error about block size21:49
beejayi actually do not need persistent partition21:50
beejayi want to use rest of thumbdrive to copy data21:50
de-factobeejay i made a usb with startup-disk-creator on an usb, that works but gparted just shows rubbish nonsense21:50
de-factoit worked for installing from usb stick though21:51
beejayde-facto - my usb is working, but it is useless for other things21:51
de-factoyup21:51
b-yeeziI'm working on it. dd may be a better solution21:52
beejayany solution to remove write-protection; in windows you can change sth in registry, i have no windows21:53
beejayi tried dd - same result21:53
beejaylike sth in iso making thumbdrive write-protected21:54
k1lbeejay: the live-OS is just mounted read-only. you cant change that that easy. that is the idea behind the live os.21:54
k1lbeejay: so what you want is an "persistence" install.21:54
beejayi read all the stroy about change in disk creator, no more persistence21:55
beejayi do not need persistance, i need usb with live ubuntu and place to backup data21:55
beejayi can do it on another partition21:56
beejaybut i can not create it because it is write protected21:56
b-yeeziYou cannot add it to the iso partition. You need to make another partition21:57
b-yeeziThe ISO9660 standard filesystem is read-only21:57
beejayi can not create another partition because thumbdrive is write protected21:58
de-factobeejay what do you mean with "it is write protected"? what and how did you find out?21:58
k1lbeejay: make sure its not mounted21:58
beejaydisks is showing errors with block size, gparted the same, hdparm is displaying "dev write -protected"21:59
de-factobeejay hmm interessting, do you see something about it in "dmesg"?22:01
beejaydisks: udisks-error-quark22:01
beejaywhen trying to make new partition22:01
de-factobeejay do you want to reformat it?22:03
beejayno problem with it22:03
beejayi can do new partition table in qparted22:04
beejayanything i was trying it was showing that whole /dev/sda is write-protected, not partitions22:07
newjerseyis there a special trick to make a ubuntu iso flash drive bootable on macbook? I already have lubuntu installed on the computer and would like to start fresh but I can't get any disk to show up on the startup screen except one called "windows"22:07
beejayas i do new partition table abd new partitions everything is good; any method i use to put iso into thumbdrive makes it whole write protected22:08
de-factobeejay yeah because its presented as iso9660 probably22:09
donofriook I have a macmini here running 16.04 ppc and I have no sound, slow refreshing video I'm wondering what do I have to modprobe to get this resolved http://apaste.info/z6R22:10
pilnestandard method of putting an iso on a usb stick involves using something like dd to image it onto it, this makes all of whatever is being written to with the dd command (i.e. of=/dev/sdb) be seen as one "image" until things are changed, there are utilities to make a multiboot, and therefore multipartitioned usb boot stick, but they aren't exactly failproof.22:11
de-factobeejay i mean that partition on the thumb drive is iso9660 (as a burned cd), so you wont be able to write to it then22:11
cmb_Struggling to get password-less login between machines on my local network working (via ssh; newly installed 16.04 on both machines). Followed my normal routine: ssh-keygen -t dsa (no passphrase); ssh-copy-id to the relevant machine. But no still getting prompted for a password by the remote machine after the newly generated key has been installed. See: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16071736/22:11
ikoniadonofrio: did they do a mac mini PPC ?22:11
ikoniadonofrio: they where all intel22:11
ikoniadonofrio: wow - they did a PPC mini, the spec sucks22:12
ikoniadonofrio: it's not going to work well with ubuntu22:12
donofriospecs aside, do you know how to enable the soundcard and faster refreshing video?22:13
b-yeezibeejay: I think it's the Ubuntu Iso's fault. I don't think we used to have this problem22:13
ikoniadonofrio: the video refresh is because the spec sucks22:14
ikoniadonofrio: the video card is terrible and the support for that card is terrible22:14
beejay1st partition is iso, second is fat (uefi)22:14
newjerseyany way to do a "factory reset" of some sort on my macbook 1,1? I can't get it to boot from a usb drive anymore...22:15
beejaybut it is like all thumbdrive write-protected22:15
b-yeeziYou should be able to make a 3rd, but I can't make it work either.22:15
ikonianewjersey: the guys in ##apple can help22:15
beejayi can not, because i got this error about block size - in gparted and in disks22:16
de-factobeejay if the whole drive were write protected (which is possible with some chipsets, but i doubt you could trigger that without special tools), you also could not write a partition table to the blockdevice, right?22:16
mike-drummerGot an apt error preventing me from installing or removing anything http://pastebin.com/7vwGVkMA22:16
donofrioikonia, did ubuntu keep the agp port logic in the kernel, I heard debian it was removed that is why video is slow...22:16
ikoniadonofrio: the video card just sucks and the support for it sucks22:17
ikoniadonofrio: it's that simple - ubuntu is too demanding for such a low spec machine22:17
ikoniamike-drummer: you have a few external repos in there - remove them22:17
beejayi can do new partiotin table22:17
ikoniamike-drummer: you appear to have backup files .bck too22:18
ikoniaremove them, apt doesn't like that22:18
donofrioikonia, this is linux relax not everyone is in a hurry for speed, just want answers to how to resolve the soundcard first22:18
donofriothen the video22:18
ikoniadonofrio: what ?22:18
ikoniadonofrio: I am relaxed, I'm just explaining - it's not going to work on that mac22:18
b-yeeziSee if that works. You can mount the other partition from the live environment22:18
donofriolinux run's on an RPi it can run ona mac mini just fine22:18
ikoniadonofrio: the pi is more equipped for it and ubuntu doesn't run "great" on it22:19
newjerseyikonia, :( there is no one there22:19
boxmeinikonia: what22:19
ikonianewjersey: there are many people there22:19
newjerseyI mean nobody is talking22:19
ikonianewjersey: then wait22:19
ikonianewjersey: you've waited less than a minute22:20
raimundoAlguna nena de chile?22:20
k1ldonofrio: apple hardware needs special treatment most times. better see the  ubuntu wiki or forums or askubuntu about the experiences from other users with that exact hardware22:20
beejayi did new partition table gpt22:20
ikoniak1l: it's dead PPC and support removed ATI22:20
beejaywhat is better dd or disk creator?22:20
ikoniabeejay: better for what ?22:21
beejayfor putting iso into thumbdrive22:21
de-factobeejay if you use those you will overwrite your partition table22:21
beejayi did22:21
beejaymaybe i do not catch22:22
k1lmike-drummer: and you have a wrong 3rd party repo there too.22:22
beejayi put right now new gpt prtition table22:22
beejaythere is no partitions22:23
beejaywhen i use dd or disk creator it will do partitions22:23
beejaybut also will change partition table22:23
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cmb_Ahhh, sorted my ssh/passwordless login problem. Just use RSA keys rather than DSA ones.22:25
b-yeeziI'm really disappointed. I paved over a solid install of Korora 23 for this. Not happy22:25
pilneand why not just install to a different partition to give it a test drive if you were happy with korora 23?22:26
de-factoyes beejay /dev/sdX is the whole thumbdrive as block device, /dev/sdX1 /dev/sdX2 and so on the partitions on it, so if you dd to the blockdevice it will overwrite the partitiontable and also provide a bootloader (as needed for booting)22:26
wadI'm wanting to try some Ubuntu development stuff. I cloned a git repository for gnome-terminal, but am having some trouble getting it to build. Is this the right channel? Or is there a dev channel somewhere?22:26
ikoniawad: with respect, how do you expect to do development if you don't konw how to do a build of a stable component ?22:26
b-yeeziBecause I love Ubuntu. I was just test driving Korora until 16.04 released22:26
b-yeeziI'm sure it will get better, but not a good desktop launch.22:27
pilnei mean, i love ubuntu too, but i wouldn't just throw away something that's running like greased lightning downhill with a tailwind22:27
b-yeeziI will wait 6 months or so to update my servers22:27
b-yeeziI did a systemback of Korora, so it would only take 30 to 60 minutes to get it back up and running, but I'm going to stick with it for a month or so22:28
wadikonia, also with respect, I know how to build stuff, but I think I may be following the wrong path in this case. The latest gnome-terminal requires GTK+ 3.12, but reading about it online says that Ubuntu Unity only works with 3.10.8.... Perhaps I'm using the wrong gnome-terminal package?22:29
ikoniawad: you don't seem to know how to build it, as you're not debugging it at al22:29
ikoniaall22:29
ikoniawad: dependency matching is something that should be done before you try/start to build22:30
wadI read this online: "After Gnome 3.10 , there happened huge differences on Gnome side, it's not compatible with current Ubuntu. Even compiz won't work properly. Ubuntu team patches Gnome to use it. You had better wait until Ubuntu team patches and upgrades gtk3.10 and gnome stuff. – kenn Jul 22 '15 at 21:02"22:30
ikoniawad: ok ?22:30
ArrEmmArrEffhowdy y'all ubuntu 1604 i wiped /sda in gparted and set to ext4 but i cant edit anything or create files. how to fix ?22:31
wadI was hoping I could compile up my own version of gnome-terminal, perhaps so I could integrate cssh into it. Because I'd rather the multiple terminals open as tabs in gnome-terminal, instead of those little xterm windows.....22:31
ikoniagnome-terminal already supports tabs22:31
ikoniaArrEmmArrEff: how are you trying to create files on it ?22:31
ikoniaArrEmmArrEff: keep in mind /dev/sda is a disk, not a partition22:32
wadikonia, yea, I use them all the time. I even customized the color, to make the active one pop more!22:32
wadBut when I run cssh, it doesn't use gnome-terminal. It opens little xterm windows.22:32
ArrEmmArrEffsudo mkdir works but i want to beable to use right click in nautilus. im not sure what permissions or chmod stuff to do22:32
ikoniawad:....isn't that just a conifg line22:32
wadIt sure is. :)22:33
wadAnyway, I've always wanted to try doing some linux dev stuff. Figured this would be a good place to start.22:33
ikoniawad: so why are you looking at compiling things to fix a config problem ?22:33
ikoniajust change the config22:33
ikoniaArrEmmArrEff: where is the disk mounted ?22:33
iSlayWyvernsDoes LUKS slow down considerably the system?22:33
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gohuiduihI22:33
ArrEmmArrEffikonia: sorry its /dev/sda522:34
gohuiduiWhat are the system requirements for ubunto 16.. LTS?22:34
gohuiduiUbuntu22:34
ikoniaiSlayWyverns: it has an overhead at decyrpt time, there is a "buffer" it passes through before it commits to disk (virtually) so there is an overhead, but.....it really depends. Most won't see it22:34
ikoniaArrEmmArrEff: where is it mounted22:34
MultbrelchArrEmmArrEff, in the worst case 'sudo chmod -R user:user /media/user/your_disk'22:34
wadikonia, I don't have a config problem.... was just trying to get gnome-terminal to compile from code, having dependency issues, came here looking to see if there was a development channel of some sort.22:34
Multbrelchchown I mean22:34
iSlayWyvernsdoesn't seem noticeable (brb)22:35
ikoniawad: you do have a config problem as you're complaining that cssh doesn't use gnome terminal22:35
naccwad: if you're compiling on ubuntu try `apt-get build-dep gnome-terminal` to install all the dependencies used to build the package22:35
ikoniano, no22:35
ArrEmmArrEffikonia: im not sure how to tell where its mounted22:35
ikoniado not randomly type that22:35
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terratomacan i do a 'in-target' preseed command AND a non 'in-target' command in preseed ?22:36
wadikonia, Ah, I didn't realize that cssh could be configured to use gnome-terminal! I'll give it a shot.22:36
MultbrelchArrEmmArrEff, open 'Drives' and look there22:36
terratomai have not been able to figure out how22:36
wadnacc: I'll try that too.22:36
naccterratoma: yes, you can22:36
ikoniawad: do not randomly ype build-dep22:36
de-factowad have you read man of cssh completely? are you sure you cant just configure cssh to use gnome-terminal?22:36
virtuosojI think I messed up. trying to install wine and typed "sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386" in terminal22:36
naccikonia: ack, thought wad specifically wanted to recompile, sorry22:36
ikonianacc: he did - but for the wrong reasons22:36
virtuosojnot it won't let me apt update & upgrade ...22:37
ikonianacc: 1 line in config doesn't need a recompile22:37
virtuosoj*now22:37
naccikonia: yep, reread the backlog, sorry22:37
ikonianacc: not a problem22:37
ArrEmmArrEffMultbrelch: i feel so dumb where is drives?22:37
wadde-facto, I had not. Doing it now.22:37
virtuosoj"N: Skipping acquire of configured file 'main/binary-1386/Packages' as repository 'http://ppa.launchpad.net/ravefinity-project/ppa/ubuntu xenial InRelease' doesn't support architecture '1386'22:37
virtuosoj"22:37
MultbrelchArrEmmArrEff, you know how to open a terminal? If so do it22:37
b-yeeziI can't get grubia32.efi onto a flash drive to load on my eeepc book22:37
terratomanacc: do you think my syntax is correct? https://dpaste.de/cMJa/raw22:37
virtuosojHow do I remove this error?22:38
ikoniavirtuosoj: you have your answer in the error22:38
ArrEmmArrEffMultbrelch: k22:38
ikoniavirtuosoj: and l386 is not i38622:38
virtuosojT_T22:38
beejayany clue how to resolve block size problem?22:38
ikonia1386 is different to i38622:38
MultbrelchArrEmmArrEff, in the terminal, type 'ls -al /media/<your_user_name>22:38
virtuosojmaybe that's how I messed up22:38
virtuosojwell... definitely22:38
virtuosojhow do I undo that?22:38
ikoniaedit the repo file22:38
MultbrelchArrEmmArrEff, you see the drive's name?22:39
ArrEmmArrEffyes22:39
Multbrelchk22:39
MultbrelchArrEmmArrEff, in the terminal, find the user right for your drive22:39
MultbrelchArrEmmArrEff, is it you or root?22:39
naccterratoma: to be clear, the first two lines in the "this does not" section do work, and it's just the last that does not?22:39
virtuosojikonia, how do I locate repo file?22:40
ArrEmmArrEffMultbrelch: drwxr-xr-x  4 root root 4096 Apr 26 19:2622:40
MultbrelchVery good!22:40
ikoniavirtuosoj: its in /etc/yum.repos.d22:40
ikoniaoops22:40
ikoniavirtuosoj: sorry, ignore that22:40
ikoniavirtuosoj: /etc/apt/sources.list.d22:40
MultbrelchSo, is there some stuff on the hard drive or is it still empty?, ArrEmmArrEff22:40
virtuosojyou use fedora? :P22:40
ikoniavirtuosoj: I was on auto pilot, sorry22:40
terratomanacc: yeah!  first example worked fine.  second i get Failed to run preseeded command22:41
ArrEmmArrEffi just a test dir i made with sudo mkdir to see if it would work22:41
MultbrelchArrEmmArrEff, in the terminal type: sudo chown -R <your_user_name>:<your_user_name> /media/<your_user_name>/<drives_name>22:41
mekhamii added a user to the sudoers group with gpasswd -a <user> sudo but when i went back and logged ont o that user they didn't have sudo privilege22:42
mekhamiwhat else do i need to do22:42
MultbrelchArrEmmArrEff, after you do: ls -al /media/<your_user_name> ... the owner should be you then22:42
naccterratoma: sorry, i meant specifically in the second, do the first two lines work on their own (with the line-continuation)? They should, just checking22:42
de-factobeejay not really, i guess there is something weird about the iso maybe? if you want to start from scratch with your thumbdrive you could dd some zeros to it and reformat it with gparted then (as it will look factory clean). then i guess you could copy the files from within the iso onto a partition and need to install a bootloader to the thumdrive then (not sure if that will work i always was too lazy to do that manually)22:43
terratomanacc: yes. it stops working when i add the 'in-target' part22:43
terratomaim going to confirm again though22:43
ArrEmmArrEffMultbrelch: does s3@s3:~$ sudo chown -R s3:s3 /media/s3/Landfill22:43
ArrEmmArrEff look right ?22:43
terratomayes, works without the 'in-target' part22:43
Multbrelchs3 is the user's name and Landfill is the disk's name?22:44
MultbrelchArrEmmArrEff, ^22:44
ArrEmmArrEffyes22:44
Bundestrojanergood evening22:44
MultbrelchYes, then it should work22:44
naccterratoma: ok, let me compare to some examples i've used in the past22:44
terratomathanks22:44
naccterratoma: have you tried doin all three as in-target commands?22:45
terratomatrying...22:45
naccterratoma: e.g., in-target cp -ra /media/cdrom/pool /pool...22:45
ArrEmmArrEffMultbrelch: ikonia thanks guys you fixed it22:45
MultbrelchGOOD!22:46
Multbrelchchaown => change owner, chmod => change user rights <= all this very important, ArrEmmArrEff, google for it ...22:46
Multbrelchchown22:46
terratomanacc: i am going to try https://dpaste.de/cn1T/raw22:47
ArrEmmArrEffMultbrelch: was the -R to do everything on the drive?22:47
Multbrelch-R means recursive ArrEmmArrEff22:47
naccterratoma: shouldn't need /target in the destination?22:47
MultbrelchArrEmmArrEff, in the terminal type 'man chown' <= manual22:47
naccterratoma: of the first command22:48
naccterratoma: oh and *each* line needs to have in-target22:48
terratomagood point, thanks22:48
naccaiui22:48
ArrEmmArrEffMultbrelch: i did google it but found different answers and just wanted some help before i make it worse haha thanks again tho :))))22:48
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Multbrelch:)22:48
naccterratoma: like in http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=197757022:48
terratomaim trying this: https://dpaste.de/dXMv/raw22:48
terratomaoops i have typo again22:49
MultbrelchArrEmmArrEff, in the worst case, look into the manpages of the machine you are using, e.g., do a 'man chown'22:49
naccterratoma: lost late_command? :)22:49
ArrEmmArrEffam reading it now22:49
terratomaand one more time... https://dpaste.de/jM8x/raw22:49
naccterratoma: that seems right to me22:50
rud0lfjust to be sure: a file can belong to only one group?22:50
BundestrojanerI've installed kubuntu 15.10 on my hp dv7-4051 (radeon 5650m).22:50
BundestrojanerI've installed the proprietary ati-driver using the driver manager, now it doesn't boot any more.22:50
BundestrojanerI have no idea how to trouble shoot this - the splash screen looks normal, than disappears and nothing happens after that22:50
riqjhello everyone, I dont get an upgrade alert for 16.04. is it maybe not the time for it yet?22:52
LaserAllanhey there, is there a VMWare client for linux?, I am in the middle of deciding if I am going to use VMWare or Zhen Serveratm22:52
EriC^^riqj: it won't offer to upgrade til 16.04.122:52
naccriqj: what version of ubuntu are you on?22:52
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de-factoLaserAllan id recomment VirtualBox from my experience it works really well on ubuntu22:53
riqjnacc, 14.04. LTS22:53
Bundestrojanerat first, how can i switch back to the open driver?22:53
de-factoLaserAllan or virt-manager22:54
naccriqj: ah then what EriC^^ said22:54
riqjEriC^^, ah, thank you22:54
riqjthank you, nacc22:54
LaserAllande-facto: Is it an official client for VMWare?22:55
o11csecurity.ubuntu.com is down?22:55
riqjbut then can I upgrade directly from 14.04. to 16.04.?22:55
LaserAllanI've looked around and there seems to quite a few options.22:55
EriC^^riqj: yeah22:56
o11criqj: upgrades between LTS releases are always possible, provided you don't use any third-party PPAs22:56
nacc!ltsupgrade | riqj22:56
ubotturiqj: Users of 14.04 LTS will be offered the automatic upgrade when 16.04.1 LTS is released, which is scheduled for July 21st.22:56
o11cif you *do* use third-party PPAs, you might have to disable them22:57
de-factoLaserAllan nope not from VmWare, Virtualbox is from Oracle and virt-manager from redhat i guess22:57
riqjEriC^^, I mean if I want to upgrade now..how would it work? I guess 'sudo do-release-upgrade -d' is for usual upgrades, not for LTS22:57
riqjor is it=22:57
riqj?22:57
naccriqj: if you pass -d, you will get put onto yakkety22:57
naccriqj: which you do not want22:57
riqjI mean not from one LTS to the next22:57
o11criqj: well, right *now* right now is not possible, since the update server is down22:57
EriC^^riqj: you could download the iso, and in the installer choose to upgrade, never tried it though22:58
naccriqj: IMO, presuming you are on LTS for stability and support, just wait til 16.04.122:58
riqjyes, I can do that. only I wanted to know if it there'd be a simple way22:58
bananapie_anyone know where I can find a zip file containing the same files that I would get if I ran debootstrap xenial?22:59
riqjby the way, what is yakkety? the name for 16.10.?22:59
o11cbananapie_: wouldn't you really want a VM image?22:59
bananapie_i need it for chroot22:59
nacc!yakkety | riqj23:00
ubotturiqj: Ubuntu 16.10 (Yakkety Yak) will be the 25th release of Ubuntu. It is due to be released in October 2016. Discussion in #ubuntu+123:00
riqjah :)23:00
LaserAllande-facto: Ok so basically to remote manage a VMWare server I will have to use WIndows?23:00
Jbmorris289Hello23:00
riqjhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yakety_Sax23:00
de-factoLaserAllan im not familiar with VmWare but there is https://my.vmware.com/web/vmware/downloads23:01
terratomanacc: i have failed http://i.imgur.com/LvhRB35.png23:01
Jbmorris289I have some questions23:02
LaserAllande-facto: Lemme check, becuase I am in the process of setting up a backups erver tha tis going to run a linux VM an aWindows VM the linux vm is ging to handle network device backups ebcuase windows cannot do that23:02
Jbmorris289and need a little help23:02
LaserAllanso i am kinda having to trick Crashplan into backing up it anyway23:02
bananapie_like stage 3 of gentoo23:02
Jbmorris289I am currently on 'Lubuntu'23:02
riqjthank you for your replies! enjoy your day!23:02
Jbmorris289im planning on installing it,23:03
Jbmorris289And23:03
Jbmorris289I'm replacing WinXP23:03
Jbmorris289but23:03
Jbmorris289it says that ill lose my docs23:03
Jbmorris289well23:03
Jbmorris289it shows me partitions actually23:03
Jbmorris289but will I LOSE my files?23:03
de-factoLaserAllan if you are able to read german language there is something in the wiki here https://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/VMware_Player/23:04
de-factohence there are linux versions avail23:04
LaserAllande-facto: I am actually, just plain retarded that german is the language and not english lol23:05
mekhamii added a user to the sudoers group with gpasswd -a <user> sudo but when i went back and logged ont o that user they didn't have sudo privilege23:05
de-factoLaserAllan use google translate, though id probably choose virt-manager for such a scenario myself23:05
LaserAllande-facto: Although, is VMWare better than Zhen Server for this?, if you know what I am talking about :)23:06
de-factoLaserAllan i dont know anything about Zhen Server23:07
de-factomaybe you meant Xen?23:07
LaserAllande-facto: Sorry I misspelled23:08
LaserAllanXen server is the name23:08
terratomanacc: i guess the real problem is the apt-ftparchive command i am trying does not want to work in preseed for some reason ( works great after reboot ).  dunno.   probably not preseed's fault23:09
Jbmorris289Uh...?23:10
Jbmorris289no answer?23:10
Jbmorris289hm23:10
tewardJbmorris289: patience is a virtue23:10
tewardJbmorris289: if you "replace" WinXP and overwrite, then you *will* lose the WinXP files23:10
Jbmorris289i need to figures this out without screwing -23:10
Jbmorris289Darn23:10
Jbmorris289it23:10
tewardyou have to do a side-by-side install if you want to keep the WinXP files23:10
tewardJbmorris289: or copy them to an external disk to preserve them23:10
Jbmorris289I have another partition23:11
Jbmorris289thats one thing23:11
OerHeksJbmorris289, if you don't have a backup of your *important* files, they are not important.23:11
teward^ that23:11
Jbmorris289and true, patience IS a virtue...23:11
Jbmorris289ill probably just23:12
bpromptJbmorris289:    what are you trying to do again?23:12
Jbmorris289back it up on the second partition of my computer's HDD23:12
Jbmorris289bprompt: replace winXP23:12
Jbmorris289with Lubuntu23:12
bpromptJbmorris289:    ok... and what's stopping you?23:12
Jbmorris289losing docs23:12
bpromptJbmorris289:    you mean, you only have one partition?23:13
Jbmorris289i have two23:13
de-factowell LaserAllan thats not really an ubuntu related question, neither Citrix XenServer nor VmWare is in the repositories, but both virtualbox and virt-manager and libvirt are23:13
Jbmorris289but the second one is not for installing OSes23:13
bpromptJbmorris289:    is for docs? :)23:13
bprompthehehe23:13
OerHekssometimes windows xp is installed on sata in IDE mode, not AHCI ... you might lose them anyway23:13
bpromptJbmorris289:   I mean, just move over the files you want kept, over to the 2nd partition, and done :)23:14
de-factoLaserAllan there is also #xen channel on freenode23:14
Jbmorris289bprompt: ye23:14
Jbmorris289i thought it wasn't going to remove23:14
bpromptJbmorris289:    shouldln't take long, unless you have a PATA hdd with 3200 rpm =P23:14
Jbmorris289im currently on a LIVE session of lubuntu23:14
Jbmorris289nope23:15
Jbmorris289i have sata23:15
Jbmorris289160 GB (Wow)23:15
bpromptJbmorris289:     you thought you weren't going to remove what again?23:15
Jbmorris289it(lubuntu installer) and documents and other files23:15
adrian_1908Jbmorris289: So you want to move your personal files to the new partition and then overwrite the WinXP partition with Lubuntu or?23:15
Jbmorris289I'm replacing windows XP23:16
Jbmorris289since its waayyyy to outdated by now23:16
LaserAllande-facto: thanks man23:16
Jbmorris289and the second partition is already created23:16
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adrian_1908Jbmorris289: sorry, my chat window was stuck (didn't scroll along), you might have been helped already. disregard my question in that case.23:16
Jbmorris289too* no to23:16
Jbmorris289adrian_1908: oh23:17
Jbmorris289Huh.23:17
Jbmorris289also bprompt23:17
bpromptJbmorris289:     usually you wouldn't want to store docs and media files in the system partition, if they had been saved on the 2nd partition from the getgo, you'd be kosher, but the issue always is there, that in case of a reinstall or something happening to the system, to just reinstall or affect the system, not your files23:17
Yuri6037Hey all, so I'm back and I worry about the Untity8 thing23:18
Jbmorris289i used UnetBootin and booted from the main partition, will installing still work without Hang?23:18
Jbmorris289And...23:18
Jbmorris289why are IP addresses showing on pidgin when people join..23:20
naccterratoma: hrm, that's possibly true, if maybe  it's not available (but it should be) ... really not sure, sorry23:20
naccterratoma: did you every try w/o the full path?23:20
Yuri6037They say hardware will need to support Mir but in the case the company doesn't want to support Ubuntu ? Next issues I see are related to visuals23:20
bpromptJbmorris289:    I don't use pidgin, but I'd think is some setting in it23:20
Jbmorris289bprompt: hm23:20
terratomanacc: trying.  just takes me a while to generate iso, test in emulation, etc23:21
QuetzaHi. I've just installed 14.04 LTS server but the sources.list file only has the cdrom in it. How can I install software?23:21
effectnetwhy is the folder in the corner shaking every once in a while???23:21
bpromptJbmorris289:    I mean, is the same in irc, you can check the nicks IP if you want, or simply disable it, depends, if you're looking for individuals from certain region, that can be helpful23:21
pilnea shaking icon on the dock means it wants your attention23:21
adrian_1908Jbmorris289: Is the data a lot? And how private is it? If it's not too much, you could upload it to a free online storage service as an extra insurance.23:22
terratoma8 gig usb sticks are 50 cents now23:22
Jbmorris289adrian_1908: not really that big23:22
Jbmorris289I use MEGA23:22
Jbmorris289(.nz)23:22
adrian_1908Yeah was gonna suggest MEGA :P23:22
reisiomega's ui is abysmal23:22
Jbmorris289Hah23:22
reisiowhat're you talking about, online storage?23:22
Jbmorris289Yup23:23
Yuri6037About visuals, i saw some videos with awful stilyzed icons and less rounded/smooth things like the crappy win10 theme !23:23
reisiowhat's mega's free limit?23:23
Jbmorris28950 GB23:23
Jbmorris289i think23:23
adrian_1908yes, 5023:23
reisiothat's pretty decent23:23
naccQuetza: did you install it from a cdrom?23:23
reisiobut probably not worth it23:23
Quetzanacc: yes23:23
Quetzaor rather, a USB stick23:23
reisiotheir UI sucks, and they'll just get raided by a government again eventually23:23
naccQuetza: hrm, i thought it tended to put the full sources.list in during the install, but maybe server doesn't, or maybe you had to tell it -- you should just be able to add the appropriate lines to sources.list23:24
Jbmorris289all my files altogether, the size is way less than 50 GB (fortunately)23:24
Yuri6037is this Unity8 theme be enforced in the future ? Because the actual theme is just the crappy style of win10 with layout of unity7 !23:24
Quetzanacc: I tried, but nothing worked. I've just run apt-get update and it seems to finally be doing something23:24
reisiomost people don't have more than 30GB or so they need with them at all times :p23:25
iSlayWyvernsAlway show Menu Options - setting?23:25
de-factoJbmorris289 how about setting up a proper external backup of your data (possibly encrypted) anyhow? its always a very good idea, data without backup is not really important by definition ;)23:25
reisiothat's including a heavy OS23:25
adrian_1908Jbmorris289: Unless this poses a threat: "[01:13] OerHeks sometimes windows xp is installed on sata in IDE mode, not AHCI ... you might lose them anyway" I don't see why you shouldn't go ahead and install on the partition of your choice.23:25
reisioYuri6037: not sure darker window titles counts as "just like windows 10", but whatever :p23:25
Jbmorris289adrian_1908: I used UNETBootin and used the C: drive to boot, will installatio still work23:26
Jbmorris289Typo.23:26
Jbmorris289Installation23:26
QuetzaIt seems that apt-get update is a pre-requisite for having apt-get working. would be nice if it were documented somewhere :(23:26
Jbmorris289there23:26
naccQuetza: it's in the manpage?23:26
naccQuetza: and it's not "required", but if you want to be current, it's necessary23:27
adrian_1908Jbmorris289: What do you mean by C: drive? Does your mainboard's boot menu assign drive letters, or what are you referring to?23:27
naccQuetza: and on any alteration to sources, of course23:27
Yuri6037for examples the top right dropdowns are realy good and smooth now on the video i saw, that was a creep win10 metro look !23:27
adrian_1908Jbmorris289: You booted from a LiveCD/stick, no?23:27
Jbmorris289de-facto: i have, but I think i've formatted my Flash drive too many times and now im worried about it dying sooner23:28
Jbmorris289i try to make it bootable with stuff23:28
Jbmorris289but it somtimes23:28
Jbmorris289doesn't seem to wanna work23:28
Jbmorris289adrian_1908: Nope23:28
Jbmorris289Hard drive, i set it up with unetbootin23:29
de-factoJbmorris289 yeah there is no really durable option for data except for backing it up on multiple devices, rewriting it and renewing the hw from time to time23:29
Jbmorris289hw?23:29
de-factohardware23:29
Jbmorris289..oh23:29
Yuri6037if i would like to make ubuntu my next system that's to replace win7 when it will be dropped. the problem is that if ubuntu starts to go into the same crappy rendering engaged in win 8, seriously i give up ubuntu !23:30
Jbmorris289de-facto: so will installation still work even though im booted from the internal hard drive23:31
Yuri6037that is the question ! And apparently unity 8 is taking some foot in this crappy rendering23:31
Defiance_there are other flavors of ubuntu that dont use unity23:31
Yuri6037i know but i love unity7...23:32
JeremyNI'm running Ubuntu 14.04.4 LTS, backuppc version 3.3.0, and samba version 4.3.8-Ubuntu.23:32
JeremyNBackupPC is failing and logging the following when trying to backup Windows 10 users:23:32
JeremyNcli_list: Error: unable to parse name from info level 26023:32
JeremyNNT_STATUS_NO_MEMORY listing \\*23:32
JeremyNtar:705  do_list fail NT_STATUS_NO_MEMORY23:32
JeremyNI THINK it's caused by this bug: https://bugzilla.samba.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1183123:32
ubottubugzilla.samba.org bug 11831 in Tools "smbclient ls command fails on windows 10" [Normal,Resolved: duplicate]23:32
robotdevil1grrrrrrrr is EFI ever stupid23:32
o11crobotdevil1: yup, first thing I always do is disable it23:33
de-factoJbmorris289 if you want to install ubuntu onto your harddrive i would recommend to boot from a livecd/liveusb and test if your hardware works properly with ubuntu. if so you can reformat and install ubuntu onto your harddrive then (but please backup your data before you do that)23:33
JeremyNwhich is a duplicate of this bug: https://bugzilla.samba.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11822#c623:33
ubottubugzilla.samba.org bug 11822 in libsmbclient "source3/libsmb/clilist.c reads short name length as 2 bytes, instead of 1 byte plus reserved." [Normal,Resolved: fixed]23:33
Yuri6037and from what i saw on youtube for unity8 is remembering me win 8 shit metro interface and ms making all their possible for the most crappy rendering started with win8.23:33
adrian_1908Jbmorris289: Yeah, what de-facto said. Strange shenanigans are not worth the hassle. Get a new usb stick if necessary, they are so cheap and have plenty uses.23:34
JeremyNis Ubuntu planning on rolling that patch into their package of samba?23:34
robotdevil1o11c: well I have a HP notebook and I assumed it was installed with EFI and secureboot, so I tried to install grub to the mbr to see what would happen, without changing the bios23:35
robotdevil1o11c: it made a install that you could reach by pressing the boot order hot key23:35
naccJeremyN: is there an ubuntu bug for it?23:36
robotdevil1which isnt great23:36
Yuri6037the problem of ms is that they want the system to be identical on mobile and desktop (which is the worst idea i ever saw) and ubuntu unity8 with their phone is taking a bit the same direction.23:36
de-factoYuri6037 there are loads of different DesktopEnvironments, one for every taste (not only Unity). Just google some further and you probably will find some you like more (e.g. Gnome, KDE, LXDE, Xfce and so on and so forth)23:36
Jbmorris289adrian_1908: i can't get a new one ATM.23:36
naccYuri6037: offtopic (afaict)23:36
o11cI just installed xfce for my mom's old netbook23:36
o11cpersonally I use KDE though23:36
de-factoYuri6037 look at all the variety of livecds you could choose from: http://releases.ubuntu.com/23:36
robotdevil1so then I told the hp recovery whatever it was it recover the partitions and do clean install but with secure boot off and legacy mode in bios23:37
Yuri6037i love unity version 7 but not version 8 that's all and what i'm worried about is that future isos will be enforced with that unity823:37
adrian_1908Jbmorris289: So you're attempting one of these "launch Ubuntu installer from within Windows" things or? I've never done that.23:37
naccJeremyN: on quick searching, I did not find one; you may want to file one23:38
de-factoYuri6037 if you dont like Unity, choose another iso with another DE, look at the link23:38
robotdevil1and then tried to install ubuntu and I even made a grub EFI boot partition and installed grub to mbr since it would not let me select the windows EFI or the grub boot partition23:39
robotdevil1and this install is unreachable23:39
Yuri6037de-facto: I said you about 10 times already : not unity in general ! Unity7 which is the current i have is great and visualy good. The problem is Unity8.23:40
mundus2018http://i.imgur.com/5jOLUoi.jpg23:41
Yuri6037will there be an option in future ubuntu versions to keep unity7 ?23:41
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EriC^^robotdevil1: is windows working right now?23:41
Rave1acer23:42
adrian_1908Yuri6037: Complaining here won't help. Vanilla Ubuntu is a "trendy" OS, so you'll see contemporary UI design in it. Many users jumped ship to other Desktops far earlier for other reasons.23:43
adrian_1908Yuri6037: So either go with the flow, or pick something more conservative.23:43
reisioYuri6037: with free software, even if nobody else supports it, you can always maintain it yourself23:43
Yuri6037ok so the answer to my question is no and if i want to keep it i have to touch code ?23:44
Yuri6037where is the repo of unity7 ?23:45
reisiothe answer is probably not, and if nobody else is going to maintain it, yes, you will have to maintain it yourself23:46
OerHeksworried about problems while unity 8 isn't default yet ..23:46
Jbmorris2891880 people on this channel23:46
Jbmorris289Wow23:46
reisiohttps://launchpad.net/unity23:46
petrrmsDoes macbuntu work with ubuntu 16??23:47
Yuri6037i worry for the future...23:47
Jbmorris289oo ubuntu 16 alpha23:47
Jordan_UYuri6037: Please express those worries elsewhere like #ubuntu-offtopic. This channel is for productive Ubuntu support discussion only.23:48
Yuri6037Is there no github things ? Where do i view codes ?23:48
reisiouses bzr, IIRC23:49
reisiobecause Canonical has a NIH problem23:49
reisiohttp://doc.bazaar.canonical.com/latest/en/tutorials/using_bazaar_with_launchpad.html23:50
Jordan_UYuri6037: https://code.launchpad.net/unity23:50
VoidPlayshi23:50
reisiohi void23:50
Yuri6037Ok thanks23:51
Yuri6037Apparently unity is c++23:53
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petrrmswhere can I download 15.10?23:55
reisioYuri6037: that'd make sense, as C++ is what amateurs choose :p23:55
reisiopetrrms: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+cdmirrors23:55
petrrmswhere do I download the iso?23:56
petrrmsv23:56
petrrmshttp://ubuntu.qualitynet.net/releases/15.04/23:56
petrrmson this page, it does not have any iso23:56
Jordan_Upetrrms: Why not go with 16.04 LTS?23:57
petrrmsI cant instal macbuntu23:57
petrrmsJordan_U:23:57
petrrmsJordan_U: I am trying to install a Yosemite OSX theme on Ubuntu, is it possible with 16?23:59
Jordan_Upetrrms: I have no idea.23:59
edubuntuuser2017Hello, I am trying to get a DVD to play on Edubuntu, but it's not working. Does anyone know if it is easier to get it working on Ubuntu or would Edubuntu be using the same files for this to work?23:59

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