[00:01] <StyxAlso> Wulf, Done. I manually set the time, and now I'll let ntp take care of it. Thanks for your help :-)
[00:03] <Rhorse> fathomstory: have you set up your disk with all the partitions?
[00:05] <alu> im having a hard time installing torch on 16.04 -.-
[00:12] <KiBi1_> ahh it's a wonderful day
[00:16] <Hydr0p0nX> anyone tell me how to automount UDF-fs formatted dvd's ? iso format automounts and UDF blurays automount
[00:17] <robotdevil1> sooo..... got and hp laptop with uefi and hp recovery partitions and windows 10,  I used to delete all recovery partitions and move everything around but I really want to just shrink the windows 10 partition and install grub to the mbr, can I still do this, this old school way??
[00:19] <alu> torch is not installing on 16.04
[00:19] <robotdevil1> i started the installer and it want to install grub to the /dev/sda so is it reasonable to assume it will go smoothly //
[00:19] <alu> I might have to downgrade to 16.04
[00:19] <robotdevil1> ??*
[00:20] <robotdevil1> is uefi only a issue if secureboot or whatever is enabled ?
[00:20] <TJ-> robotdevil1: I did something similar last week; I booted the Ubuntu live ISO, did 'Try' then used gparted to shrink the Windows file-system as small as possible, then 'dd'-ed the start of the disk and each partition to a USB flash storage device
[00:21] <robotdevil1> TJ-: like a backup??
[00:21] <TJ-> robotdevil1: if the disk has GPT then "dd if=/dev/sdX bs=512 count=34 of=/dev/sd${TARGET}" will copy over the primary GPT
[00:22] <icecube45> anyone feel up for a challenge? The 16.04 upgrade borked my server a bit, and I need help getting it to work again, hah
[00:22] <TJ-> robotdevil1: then i did "partprobe /dev/sd${TARGET}" and then copied over the partitions with, for each, "dd if=/dev/sdX${PARTNUM} bs=100M of=/dev/sd${TARGET}${PARTNUM}"
[00:22] <icecube45> DNS resolving has failed, and x is no longer starting
[00:23] <drong0> just wondering, i have an msata drive and a normal hdd in my machine. the msata gets picked up as /dev/sdb ... is there a way to make this /dev/sda ?
[00:23] <TJ-> robotdevil1: and finally I added the correct secondary GPT table at the end of the target with "sfdisk --move-second-header /dev/sd${TARGET}" (which actually recreates it if it isn't there, from the primary header)
[00:24] <robotdevil1> TJ-: Im sort of following, are you saying this was all necessary?
[00:24] <TJ-> drong0: robotdevil1 GPT has primary table (34 sectors) at start and the secondary the same at the end of the device
[00:24] <TJ-> robotdevil1: in order to make the backup target correct and bootable too, yes
[00:24] <robotdevil1> oh
[00:25] <TJ-> drong0: sorry, got your nickname by mistake
[00:25] <drong0> TJ-, you're cool man!
[00:25] <TJ-> drong0: why do you want to rename the devices? any reference to their contents should be using UUIDs so the device name doesn't matter
[00:26] <robotdevil1> TJ-: so basically whatever the GPT partition is it has to have a wrapper so to say and then the free space after I can install too?
[00:26] <drong0> TJ-, just a pedantic boy
[00:27] <TJ-> robotdevil1: GPT uses the 1st 34 sectors (by default), actually sector 1-33. sector 0 is left for a hybrid/protective msdos MBR partition table too
[00:27] <TJ-> robotdevil1: and GPT puts the secondary (backup) table in the final 34 sectors of the device... so to do a correct copy you have to take care of that
[00:29] <TJ-> robotdevil1: so if you pre-shrink the Windows NTFS partition so it doesn't take up unnecessary space when transferred to the target (which is generally a much smaller device) it saves time and means you can likely put the file-systems from a 128GiB+ PC into a 32GiB USB Flash device
[00:30] <TJ-> drong0: well, you could write udev rules for it but I think you'd cause more hassle than its worth.
[00:30] <drong0> TJ-, all good , appreciate it. ill live with it hehe
[00:33] <fkinwordpress> Hey All, can anyone advise me on how to update the permalink structure of my wordpress website?
[00:33] <fkinwordpress> I am so utterly lost
[00:34] <fkinwordpress> and I've been at it for a number of days :|
[00:35] <drong0> fkinwordpress, didn't know this was #wordpress
[00:36] <fkinwordpress> drong0, didn't know that existed. nom nom nom
[00:37] <drong0> yum!!!!
[00:38] <Phanes> is virtualbox the best vm host available for ubuntu?
[00:39] <Phanes> fkinwordpress: you are looking for #apache i think
[00:39] <Phanes> or #wordpress
[00:39] <drong0> fkinwordpress, it can be done within wordpress (should have it under settings) or you can do .htaccess
[00:39] <fkinwordpress> @phanes, Virtualbox should be suitable for running ubuntu in a VM, how powerful is your machine?
[00:40] <Phanes> its pretty powerful
[00:40] <fkinwordpress> @drong, yeah the menu inside wordpress for permalinks is a whoreable lie
[00:40] <fkinwordpress> it does nothing
[00:40] <fkinwordpress> @Phanes yeah man you're good get an ISO and get into it!
[00:40] <Phanes> was hoping for something a little more seamless
[00:40] <drong0> fkinwordpress, just ditch wordpress me thinks ha
[00:41] <fkinwordpress> @Phanes Have you heard of Unity or seamless mode?
[00:41] <Phanes> sounds like gui shit
[00:41] <fkinwordpress> @Phanes you might aso consider updating to the latest bulding os 10 Pro if you ahve it. Its has a built in subsystem that so far is legit
[00:41] <Phanes> oops pardon my frenchy
[00:41] <fkinwordpress> @drong Fact But I'm not sure what I could replace it with
[00:42] <Phanes> please stop using twitter tags on irc
[00:44] <squinty> fkinwordpress,  no need for the amperand before a nick here.  type type the person's nick or use
[00:44] <squinty> !tab
[00:44] <drong0> @_@
[00:46] <MINTRULES5384534> hi
[00:46] <MINTRULES5384534> how do i unmount something in only one location
[00:46] <MINTRULES5384534> how do i unmount something in only one location
[00:47] <Phanes> umount path|device
[00:47] <MINTRULES5384534> cool
[00:47] <MINTRULES5384534> thanks
[00:47] <compdoc> np
[00:48] <MINTRULES5384534> this ec2 volume stuff is hard xD
[00:48] <Phanes> not really
[00:48] <MINTRULES5384534> well
[00:48] <MINTRULES5384534> with the snapshots
[00:48] <MINTRULES5384534> and where they r mounted
[00:49] <etzer> hi all
[00:51] <etzer> I just install ubuntu 16.04 on my Acer Aspire V N17 Nitro and the wireless did not detected by the OS. I can only connected through wire. please help
[00:51] <TJ-> etzer: so it has network? can you do "pastebinit <( lspci -nnk )"
[00:52] <etzer> ok, let me try that. what should i do there after?
[00:52] <TJ-> give us the URL it provides so we can review the output
[00:53] <etzer> thanks
[00:53] <etzer> brb
[00:54] <fkinwordpress> ping
[00:54] <fkinwordpress> GUESS WHO JUST LEARNED HOW TO USE IRSSI FROM THE TERMINAL?!
[00:54] <fkinwordpress> not me because I already knew cuz I'm smart and own a mac
[00:54] <MINTRULES5384534> im using ubuntu
[00:54] <MINTRULES5384534> with windows sound
[00:54] <MINTRULES5384534> AND ITS SOOOOOOOOOO FUKING ANNOYING
[00:55] <MINTRULES5384534> AARGH
[00:55] <fkinwordpress> MINTRULES5384534: What is your life!?
[00:55] <MINTRULES5384534> THAT LOGIN SOUND
[00:55] <fkinwordpress> I would not be able to stand th-- I KNOW!
[00:55] <fkinwordpress> and The FONTS!?
[00:55] <fkinwordpress> you gotta be kidding me with the fonts
[00:55] <MINTRULES5384534> ARRGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHh
[00:55] <donu7> alrighty, after a long and lengthy battle with 14.04 and zentyal, I finally fixed all the issues. Thank you SO MUCH everybody especially TJ- and Wulf and everybody that pitched in. Y'all saved muh booty and I'm all the grateful <3
[00:55] <donu7> have a good night erybody
[00:55] <drong0> donu7, jack your big booty !!!!
[00:56] <Hydr0p0nX> anyone tell me how to automount UDF-fs formatted dvd's ? iso format automounts and UDF blurays automount correctly
[00:57] <alu> has anyone installed torch on 16.04
[01:00] <fkinwordpress> cany anyone speak to the benefits of ZFS? I want to use that at home for my file server
[01:02] <Hydr0p0nX> fkinwordpress - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZFS has a pretty good writeup
[01:08] <elisa87_> http://askubuntu.com/questions/762826/finding-the-ip-of-a-hub-connected-to-the-router please have a look at my question. It is related to rDNS somehow
[01:11] <TJ-> elisa87_: connect the device directly to a PC and use "ip neigh show" to discover its MAC address, and monitor the interface using tcpdump to see if it is trying to obtain an address via DHCP, or used a statically configured IP
[01:12] <zykotick9> Hydr0p0nX: i notice the zfs ubuntu wiki page doesn't mention the legal problems... </ot>
[01:14] <tgm4883> zykotick9: OT for this channel
[01:14] <fkinwordpress> I LOVE YOU ALL MY LITTLE KITTIES KBAI
[01:15] <voidDotClass> Hey people. In ubuntu 16.04, my laptop's touchpad doesn't do right click. any ideas?
[01:15] <voidDotClass> i mean the physical right click button
[01:15] <voidDotClass> left click only works while i have a finger on the touchpad as well
[01:17] <lemoer> heyho folks. we found a bug in the "watchdog.service" file (missing quoute). how should we report it? do we have to use this nerving "ubuntu-bug" tool or can we simply create a bug report on launchpad?
[01:17] <TJ-> voidDotClass: open a terminal, execute "xev" ... move the pointer over the small xev GUI window that appears, then press the right button and see if any events are reported by xev in the terminal. Press Ctrl+C to stop the program, or press its GUI exit icon
[01:18] <TJ-> lemoer: you can create the bug report directly on launchpad, if you're logged in there should be a link top-right of the page when  you're looking at the bug list for the affected package
[01:19] <fathomstory> Boot-repair-disc is useless
[01:19] <TJ-> lemoer: "Report a bug" top-right at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/watchdog
[01:19] <fathomstory> Cannot fix grub error
[01:19] <lemoer> TJ-: thank you very much! :)
[01:21] <pitiye_> guys i tried to usb install both ubuntu and lubuntu 16.04, but but sometimes after the partitioning process and beginning the installation process, my laptop shut down itself in both times , why is this ?
[01:21]  * zykotick9 notes that "ubuntu-bug PACKAGENAME" gives developers/bug-tracking team a lot of good information... but _might_ not be suppied via the web site...
[01:21] <zykotick9> s/but/that/
[01:21] <B0g4r7> pitiye_, maybe it's overheating.
[01:22] <pitiye_> B0g4r7: but now i am on 15.04, and its not overheating
[01:22] <TJ-> zykotick9: when we already know the problem and the solution it is unnecessary noise and frustration
[01:22] <B0g4r7> Maybe it needs some kind of thermal management software that is not active at install time...maybe.
[01:22] <zykotick9> TJ-: fair enough...
[01:23] <B0g4r7> You may find that if you try it in a cool environment with lots of airflow it makes it through.
[01:23] <TJ-> zykotick9: lemoer said it was a simple typo in a service file
[01:23] <pitiye_> B0g4r7: it looks like the only way for me to install it using a cross-install , what is the best way to do it ?  unetbootin /hard disk option does not work.
[01:23] <B0g4r7> Or I could be completely wrong.
[01:23] <mercutio> anyone know why ubuntu would be installing mdadm and iscsi and lxcfs by default?
[01:23] <zykotick9> TJ-: i wasn't refering to _this_ case at all... just "generally"
[01:24] <TJ-> zykotick9: ahh, yes, for weird stuff you've got no idea on of course
[01:24] <B0g4r7> Cross-install huh.  Install on machine a, boot on b?
[01:25] <pitiye_> B0g4r7: something like wubi would do it , from linux
[01:27] <voidDotClass> TJ-, no events are reported when i press the physical left / right click buttons on the touchpad, but moving the pointer on the touchpad itself shows events, and if i have a finger on the touchpad and press the physical left click button, then the buttonreleaseevent and a few others are reported
[01:28] <squinty> pitiye_,  fwiw, one of my systems here, during a number of fresh installs, I had to keep a fan on full blowing directly onto it because of thermal issues.  Once the install was done, it was fine.
[01:29] <pitiye_> squinty: TY for ur info , i will take your opinion !
[01:30] <squinty> pitiye_,  worth a try anyways :)
[01:30] <pitiye_> squinty: (Y)
[01:31] <[Saint]> I have a bit of a specialty question that isn't necessarily Ubuntu-specific, though I am using Ubuntu Server machines jammed in the mix also. Anyway: Is there any reason to expect X.11 forwarding to fall over if there is one or more ssh forwarding agents in the middle of the local and remote?
[01:31] <[Saint]> Everything in the path is configured to sh x.11 forwarding.
[01:31] <[Saint]> Or should I be looking elsewhere as to why this isn't working for me?
[01:32] <TJ-> voidDotClass: are you pressing the buttons whilst the pointer is over the xev GUI window (click it first) because it must have input focus
[01:32] <voidDotClass> TJ-, yes, and clicking via the touchpad is working, only via the physical buttons is it not working
[01:32] <[Saint]> X.11 forwarding works as expected if I do like: local->remote.
[01:33] <TJ-> voidDotClass: hmmm, sounds like an evdev issue (event devices)
[01:33] <voidDotClass> TJ-, no easy fix?
[01:33] <[Saint]> But if I do it like: local->ssh-forwarding-agent-remote, X.11 forwarding seems to fall over.
[01:33] <[Saint]> errr, *local->ssh-forwarding-agent->remote
[01:34] <voidDotClass> TJ-, you might remember you helped me the other day in #linux?
[01:34] <TJ-> voidDotClass: "apt-get install evtest" and then "sudo evtest" select the touchpad and see what you get
[01:34] <voidDotClass> ok, will do, i'm reinstaling right now
[01:34] <[Saint]> ANy ideas what tree I might bark up for this? Any ssh/X compositor wizards around?
[01:34] <TJ-> voidDotClass: I'v been to sleep since then; seriously, I couldn't recall helping someone just 2 hours ago... it all becomes a blur :D
[01:35] <TJ-> voidDotClass: I've been working on some bugs with devices not correctly recognised but don't think your issue is directly related
[01:35] <voidDotClass> haha TJ- . i had just bought a new laptop and i was having issues, you told me to try ocpi_osi etc
[01:36] <TJ-> voidDotClass: oh, yes!! I neeeded that myself this weekend for a new Asus T300chi - usb touchscreen digitizer wouldn't show up when the PC booted on AC power... needed "acpi_osi=! acpi_osi="Windows 2013" "
[01:36] <voidDotClass> TJ-, yes, i remmeber you had an asus device as well :)
[01:37] <TJ-> voidDotClass: yeah, I remember looking at your ACPI DSDT now
[01:37] <zykotick9> TJ-: oh... evtest is neat, i'd never heard of it before.  thanks.
[01:37] <voidDotClass> TJ-, actually i managed to get it working without having to do any of that, just had to install ubuntu, then log on under advanced -> resume, run ubuntu-drivers and install the nvidia driver, and reboot, and then it worked
[01:38] <TJ-> zykotick9: yeah, nothing like having problems for discovering fab tools :D
[01:38] <voidDotClass> but one problem i had was, on the boot screen where it asks for password, it wouldnt let me enter the pw
[01:38] <voidDotClass> so i tried installing without a hd password, and that works
[01:38] <zykotick9> TJ-: hehe ya, i've been there ;)
[01:38] <voidDotClass> i'm now trying to reinstall w/ the hd password
[01:38] <TJ-> voidDotClass: ahhh, the proprietary drivers were required
[01:38] <voidDotClass> TJ-, yeah
[01:38] <voidDotClass> any idea why it doesnt accept keyboard input on the pw screen?
[01:39] <TJ-> voidDotClass: what is generating that request? is it the boot manager, or the kernel's initrd scripts, or something else?
[01:39] <TJ-> voidDotClass: it depends at what point in time it occurs as to what devices have been initialized
[01:39] <voidDotClass> TJ-, i don't know, but its the screen where it asks for security key to unlock hd
[01:39] <Rhorse> Hi, Do all synaptic touchpads have a 3 button mode? my touchpad control panel doesn't mention a 3rd button.
[01:39] <voidDotClass> if you select to encrypt hd during install, then you get that screen on boot to unlock the hd
[01:39] <TJ-> voidDotClass: oh, is this for the LUKS/dm-crypt FDE passphrase?
[01:39] <voidDotClass> sda crypt i believe, yes TJ-
[01:40] <TJ-> voidDotClass: sorry, thought you meant a literal password in the disk drive itself!
[01:40] <voidDotClass> nah
[01:40] <voidDotClass> TJ-, it works if i dont install the nvidia drivers
[01:40] <voidDotClass> but after installing them it doesnt let me put in the pw
[01:40] <zykotick9> Rhorse: my synaptic touchpad only has two buttons...  the pointer one has three...
[01:40] <TJ-> voidDotClass: well, during a normal regular GUI boot plymouth splash screen is up, and it should display a small text input box asking for the passphrase - is that what you see?
[01:41] <zykotick9> Rhorse: "mode" <- sorry missed that part...
[01:41] <voidDotClass> TJ-, not sure what plymouth is, but i see the ubuntu logo followed by textbox to enter passphrase
[01:41] <voidDotClass> but it doesnt accept my keyboard input
[01:41] <voidDotClass> after installing the nvidia drivers
[01:41] <TJ-> voidDotClass: 'plymouth' is the tool that draws the splash screen and accepts input from user
[01:42] <voidDotClass> ok
[01:43] <zykotick9> Rhorse: i'd guess "yes" all touchpad _should_ probably be able to do a 3rd button...  physically my 1&2 buttons together = 3rd button press...  3rd buttons and wheels have been supported in xorg forever...
[01:43] <TJ-> voidDotClass: OK, then the thing to check is whether the kernel's command line has a "vt.handoff=..." parameter. you'd need to get into the GRUB menu at boot-time by holding Shift key down, then highlighting the entry, pressing 'e' and navigating to the line starting 'linux ...'
[01:44] <voidDotClass> will try that TJ- . could it have anything to do with running or not running 'sudo update-initramfs -u' after installing the nvidia driver?
[01:44] <TJ-> voidDotClass: the GUI is supposed to be on VT7 (tty7) but if that setting is missing it may be on VT1. You may simply need to alter VT focus by pressing Alt+F1 for VT1, or Alt+F7 for VT7, to set the input focus. That has caught me out a few times
[01:44] <Rhorse> zykotick9: on my Dell, you get 3 button functionality by pressing the two buttons at same time. I don't get that with my Clevo touchpad....
[01:45] <Rhorse> zykotick9: maybe I need to add a conf file to /etc/X11/..?
[01:45] <zykotick9> Rhorse: ummmm....  i have NO freaking idea....  sorry, but i'm the wrong person - i'm NOT up on latest touchpad stuff AT ALL!!!  or any latest hardware  :|
[01:47] <zykotick9> Rhorse: a snippit <- or whatever the /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/FOO stuff is called, might solve your issue...  but i have NO idea what you might need in there.  best of luck.
[01:47] <TJ-> I'd just like to get regular scroll gesture support working on this touchpad! it's a real pain having to point the pointer to a scrollbar and drag it
[01:48] <vervet> Rhorse: i'm gonna +1 zykotick9, i'd look at the conf files in X11, i had to do that for synaptics to get middle click/paste working
[01:49] <TJ-> Rhorse: look under /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/ to begin with
[01:49] <wldcordeiro> Has anyone else run into this? http://askubuntu.com/questions/760345/cannot-import-saved-openvpn-configuration-file-in-ubuntu-16-04-lts
[01:49] <ToeSnacks> My login screen seems very zoomed in. All the UI elements are very large. Unity does not have the same issue when logged in. Are there UI scaling options for larger resolutions that could be causing this? I have a 3k screen.
[01:49] <wldcordeiro> I just got hit with this when I tried to setup OpenVPN by importing the config in network manager.
[01:49] <TJ-> ToeSnacks: you mean the Greeter ? are you using 16.04 Xenial?
[01:49] <ToeSnacks> TJ-: yes I am running 16.04
[01:50] <voidDotClass> TJ-, is there anything in ubuntu which would auto turn off your keyboard backlit keys? my laptop has a thing in windows where if i leave it idle, the keyboard backlit turns off automatically, then turns back on when i come back
[01:50] <ToeSnacks> TJ-: I believe it's LightDM
[01:50] <TJ-> ToeSnacks: I've seen that, sometimes it flicks from native res to a lower res
[01:50] <ToeSnacks> the resolution doesn't seem to actually change, just the element scale.
[01:51] <TJ-> ToeSnacks: bug 1571640
[01:51] <TJ-> ToeSnacks: hmmm, yes, it could be that too I guess. I assumed it was altering the res to 800x600 or something
[01:51] <zykotick9> vervet: that "middle click paste" is 3rd button ;)
[01:52] <ToeSnacks> yeah it looks like 800x600 size wise but my display looks very blurry at all but native res and it still looks sharp which leads my to believe the resolution is unchanged.
[01:53] <TJ-> ToeSnacks: right, I think that observation fits my case too... so possibly a scaling issue
[01:54] <Rhorse> vervet: TJ- zykotick9 Thank's guys. That's what I was after the middle click paste button. At least I have an idea where to start now...
[01:54] <ToeSnacks> TJ-: I can log back out and verify the resolution for you if you like
[01:54] <TJ-> ToeSnacks: when it happens might be worth Ctrl+Alt+F1, log-in, find the .Xauthority file lightdm is using (under /var/lib/lightdm/ I believe) and using it with xrandr to query the screen resolution - or look at /var/log/lightdm/Xorg.log
[01:55] <ToeSnacks> TJ-: yeah I'll do that and update the bug with my findings
[01:55] <ToeSnacks> thanks
[01:55] <TJ-> ToeSnacks: I've subscribed to that bug now
[01:55] <wldcordeiro> Hmm it seems openvpn is very broken upon inspection post update to 16.04 for me. :/
[01:56] <TJ-> wldcordeiro: have you determined what is going wrong? is it a simple 'permission denied' copying the file, or a parse error reading the config file (check /var/log/syslog)
[01:56] <TJ-> wldcordeiro: I think it'll be in network-manager-openvpn if it is a parse error
[01:56] <TJ-> wldcordeiro: pretty sure I dealt with a bug like that sometime in the last 6 months, rings a bell
[01:57] <wldcordeiro> TJ-: So from the UI I got that bug but in the terminal if I do sudo openvpn path/to/config/config.ovpn it fails with
[01:58] <wldcordeiro> Failed to try-restart nscd.service: Unit nscd.service not found.
[01:58] <alu> i cant connect to ethernet when i boot ubuntu
[01:58] <alu> fresh install of 14.04 https://u.teknik.io/ZOBxJ.png
[01:58] <alu> i get ACPI Error
[01:58] <TJ-> wldcordeiro: ahh, yes, and I published a patched version. See https://launchpad.net/~tj/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+packages
[01:58] <wldcordeiro> alu problably uefi safeboot or whatever. Had the same problem today.
[01:59] <pierpaolo> ciao
[01:59] <TJ-> wldcordeiro: well that issue is simply you don't have the ncsd service installed then
[01:59] <alu> uefi safeboot? ehhh
[01:59] <alu> how do i turn off thisfeature, i have uefi on ubuntu
[01:59] <etzerd> hello all
[01:59] <etzerd> ?
[02:00] <TJ-> !info nscd | wldcordeiro
[02:00] <etzerd> the grub menu is not loading when I boot on windows 10
[02:00] <pierpaolo> #list
[02:00] <h3ctic> hi, just upgraded to ubuntu 16.04
[02:00] <h3ctic> try to install php5.6-fpm
[02:01] <h3ctic> but now I've got the service loaded but inactived..
[02:01] <wldcordeiro> TJ what about unbounded.service? Is that just apt-get unbounded? nscd was pretty easy to find heh
[02:01] <TJ-> alu: which release image of 14.04 did you use? is it the latest 14.04.4 ?
[02:01] <h3ctic> anyone has any idea?
[02:01] <alu> yeah its 14.04.2
[02:01] <TJ-> alu: that looks like you've got an older kernel on very new hardware, and the kernel doesn't know how to handle some bits
[02:01] <alu> the kernel is older
[02:01] <TJ-> alu: I'd recommend trying with the 14.04.4 ISO
[02:02] <alu> it has what kernel?
[02:02] <TJ-> alu: the kernel from wily, 4.2
[02:02] <TJ-> (i think that's correct)
[02:02] <alu> theres no 14.04.4 for ubuntu mate
[02:03] <gm> sup everyone
[02:03] <TJ-> alu: this is it http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.04.4/
[02:04] <alu> thats unity?
[02:04] <inocuous> hello everyone. I have a question concerning system notifications balloons, they get stuffed into a buffer in ubuntu 14, is there a utility or an adjustment to change how this works?
[02:04] <TJ-> oh, you meant "Ubuntu Mate" not "ubuntu, mate" :)
[02:04] <alu> yeah lol
[02:04] <SuperBawlz> Hey, anyone know how to get my workstation to stop booting up the the login with the main monitor set to secondary.
[02:04] <TJ-> alu: there is no 14.04 for "Ubuntu Mate"
[02:05] <SuperBawlz> There is only one monitor and it keeps making it secondary
[02:05] <TJ-> alu: you can install that, then do "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-mate-desktop"
[02:05] <voidDotClass> TJ-, $vt_handoff is present in the options
[02:05] <TJ-> SuperBawlz: that's based on the GPU's ordering of the connectors, one is primary, and it'll adopt that at boot-time
[02:06] <voidDotClass> but it still doesn't accept my input on the passphrase screen
[02:06] <alu> get ubuntu server then?
[02:06] <TJ-> voidDotClass: OK, so try using the Alt+F1 Alt+F7 trick to force focus to change and change bac
[02:06] <voidDotClass> TJ-, what is that trick?
[02:06] <SuperBawlz> TJ- it doesn't though. I have moved my cable physically and it just changes it. The other thing, why does it think that there are two monitors when there is only one?
[02:07] <TJ-> alu: you could do, or do a debootstrap of ubuntu-minimal from the Live ISO boot
[02:07] <TJ-> SuperBawlz: that sounds like the GPU/driver are getting confused then. Check /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[02:08] <TJ-> voidDotClass: pressing those key combinations to change to a different VT and back again, if it is the input-focus-is-on-wrong-VT then that'll force it back to the GUI
[02:08] <TJ-> voidDotClass: if it isn't that then we can only assume the input device you're using hasn't got its drivers loaded
[02:09] <voidDotClass> TJ-, this seems related to the nvidia display drivers, it works when i dont have the nvidia drivers, stops working once i install those drivers
[02:10] <TJ-> voidDotClass: that is worth reporting a bug then. That prompt occurs from the initial ramdisk when no GPU drivers should have been loaded
[02:11] <TJ-> voidDotClass: within the initrd.img, scripts/local-top/cryptroot runs, then it asks plymouth to ask you for the passphrase. plymouth uses that vt.handoff value to work on the correct GUI VT
[02:11] <TJ-> voidDotClass: hmmm... and now this jogs my memory... i think a few years ago this bug was fixed
[02:11] <voidDotClass> TJ-, and?
[02:12] <voidDotClass> it doesnt seem to have been  fixed
[02:12] <etzerd> the grub menu is not loaded when I boot the computer. can anyone help
[02:15] <TJ-> voidDotClass: ahhh, it was in 2010 and not quite the same as yours, although it was nvidia + plymouth (no enter key working) bug 552660
[02:16] <voidDotClass> looks like it expired? TJ-
[02:17] <TJ-> yes, I don't think I ever needed to resolve the reason since a newer version of plymouth solved it
[02:17] <TJ-> voidDotClass: but your symptoms are interestingly similar
[02:17] <TJ-> voidDotClass: do the Alt+F1 etc work, because that proves the keyboard is working so we can eliminate missing drivers
[02:18] <voidDotClass> TJ-, nothing happened on alt f1 and i'm just reinstalling now without hd encryption
[02:18] <voidDotClass> if i should report it as a bug lemme know
[02:19] <TJ-> voidDotClass: so there was no response to the keyboard? that suggests the keyboard drivers were missing, or didn't configure correctly by that point. Is it a USB keyboard?
[02:20] <icecube45_> anyone have a working radeon 16.04 desktop?
[02:20] <voidDotClass> TJ-, no, internal, and keyboard works fine all the time except when i install nvidia drivers and go to the hd unencrypt screen
[02:20] <voidDotClass> is alt + f1 even supposed to work on that screen
[02:20] <voidDotClass> alt + f1 is only once you are logged on
[02:20] <arshad> Hello everyone, my laptop only boots at acpi=off parameter. This hides the battery icons and battery management things. How do I go around this problem?
[02:21] <TJ-> voidDotClass: Yes, it's a core service by the kernel. For X and the GUI you're thinking of Ctrl+Alt+F1 etc
[02:22] <voidDotClass> TJ-, oh, i had tried ctrl + alt + f1
[02:22] <voidDotClass> i got them confused
[02:22] <TJ-> voidDotClass: aha :)
[02:22] <voidDotClass> TJ-, i'm now reinstalling without the hd encryption
[02:22] <voidDotClass> so i cant go back and test
[02:22] <TJ-> voidDotClass: you can boot a linux system and use all the VTs by switching using Alt+Fx
[02:23] <sailendra> hello there, i am trying to extend my root partition but not able to, any help
[02:24] <TJ-> voidDotClass: OK, well, it would be interesting to find out if the keyboard works at that point. Once you have it installed, do a boot where you go into the GRUB menu... edit the boot entry and add to the "linux ..." line "break=init" and then press F10 (Ctlr+X) and that will drop you to the (initramfs) shell prompt - see if you have keyboard input
[02:25] <voidDotClass> TJ-, sorry, i'm not interested in fucking w/ my system anymore. if i can do a bug report without changing any settings, lemme know
[02:25] <TJ-> voidDotClass: if no input then we know its a general keyboard driver issue
[02:25] <voidDotClass> TJ-, why would a keyboard driver issue show up only w/ nvidia drivers and only on that screen
[02:25] <TJ-> voidDotClass: I'm not asking you to change settings; just do a boot test with alternative options, its a one off
[02:25] <voidDotClass> it works fine after booting into ubuntu
[02:25] <voidDotClass> all right TJ-
[02:25] <voidDotClass> i'll try that
[02:26] <TJ-> voidDotClass: well it would, because once the initd has handed over to the system init daemon that will load all required drivers, at which point that may include the drivers required for the keyboard
[02:26] <sailendra> there are two partition /dev/sda1 and /dev/sda2 sda1 is primary one, i tried to delete sda2 then tried resize2fs /dev/sda2 but no success in increase my primary partition size
[02:26] <TJ-> voidDotClass: if there's some kind of nvidia interaction causing this, that would also be useful to know about
[02:28] <TJ-> sailendra: if you've deleted /dev/sda2 you cannot then resize it. sounds like what you need to do is extend /dev/sda1 to use the space freed by deleting sda2. You could do that with gparted. After that you can "resize2fs /dev/sda1" and it'll use the new space
[02:28] <hesham> hi
[02:29] <TJ-> voidDotClass: good luck with that; way past my bedtime here so I'm off
[02:29] <sailendra> TJ-: sorry my mistake i did resize2fs /dev/sda1 but it shows message that block is already x block long nad nothing to do
[02:29] <MannyLNJ> Question df -h hows /dev/sda6 as 100% full how do I see what is being used on it. I am connecting over ssh
[02:30] <TJ-> MannyLNJ: "du -d 2 /path/to/mountpoint | sort -n" will list the first 2 levels of directories sorted by size
[02:33] <sailendra> TJ-: i am trying to extend my root parition but its not working
[02:33] <arshad>  my laptop only boots at acpi=off parameter. This hides the battery icons and battery management things. How do I go around this problem?
[02:33] <MannyLNJ> TJ-, thanks I think it is hung it printed one Permission denied and then stopped. No shell prompt shows
[02:33] <TJ-> arshad: don't disable ACPI; try to find some lesser set of ACPI option changes that will help it boot.
[02:34] <TJ-> MannyLNJ: if its a large file-system it could take a long time, it has to read every directory and file metadata block
[02:34] <MannyLNJ> TJ-, I see, I will continue to wait
[02:35] <TJ-> MannyLNJ: or you could start another ssh session and check if that first du process is stuck :D
[02:35] <MannyLNJ> TJ-, You were correct. it finished. i have mo idea what I am looking at though
[02:36] <TJ-> MannyLNJ: you're looking at a directory listing, with the bytes used in the left column, sorted by size. that allows you to explore the directories that use the most space
[02:37] <TJ-> MannyLNJ: e.g. say the last line says "2500000000 /var/cache/" you could explore that directory with "/du -d 2 /var/cache | sort -n" to identify which directories under it use the most. Repeat that process for exploring further and locating files that can be deleted
[02:39] <MannyLNJ> TJ-, Ok it lookes like /media/emanuel uses the most space under /media/emanuel there is TOSHIBA EXT and USB_HDD_01 I see accourding to mount /deb/sdb1 is mounted at /media/emanuel/TOSHIBA EXT so i guess I need to look at TOSHIA EXT?
[02:40] <sailendra> any help :)
[02:51] <effectnet> hello in here
[02:51] <effectnet> our out there, whatever
[02:53] <effectnet> hmm cant get 16.04 to install on this asus laptop
[02:53] <effectnet> stuck at 'preparing to install Ubuntu'
[02:54] <effectnet> i wonder if a network install would work?
[02:54] <sysman> Hi, everybody!!!
[02:56] <sysman> somebody has config the ubuntu mate 16.04 for vmware workstation 11 @ windows 10 pro x64, I can't paste y drag & drop files from windows 10 to virtual machine
[02:56] <effectnet> this asus laptop has been difficult
[02:57] <Loshki> effectnet: You might have better luck with 14.04.4. Not quite so new out of the box...
[02:57] <effectnet> wow
[02:57] <effectnet> ok
[02:58] <davido> There is an #ubuntu-mate channel.
[02:58] <sysman> thanks davido!!!
[03:00] <Loshki> sysman: also check vmware forums. Lots of info there
[03:00] <MannyLNJ> Dumb question how do I copy a file if I don't have FTP but I can SSH in?
[03:00] <h3ctic> sftp..
[03:00] <S> hi
[03:00] <Loshki> MannyLNJ: if you can ssh, you can usually also scp, or sftp.
[03:01] <h3ctic> never ftp, not safe...
[03:01] <Guest6901> who is use backbox ?
[03:01] <MannyLNJ> Loshki, thanks I didn't understand that
[03:02] <Bashing-om> !ba
[03:02] <Bashing-om> ckb
[03:02] <Loshki> MannyLNJ: ok, what file do you want to copy, from where to where?
[03:02] <h3ctic> MannyLNJ, try sftp..
[03:02] <Guest6901> hi
[03:02] <h3ctic> it use same port as ssh..
[03:02] <Bashing-om> !backbox |
[03:03] <Guest6901> ow sorry"
[03:08] <zykotick9> MannyLNJ: "scp /file/on/local remoteIPorURL:/path/on/remote"  note, remoteIPorULT:filename.txt would be the user's home directory
[03:10] <zykotick9> MannyLNJ: <sidenote> if you have ssh keys setup, you can even use tab completion on the remote system
[03:10] <effectnet> shoot i tried the 14.04.4 image and grub is up on the screen heh
[03:10] <effectnet> do i want uefi booting off of the usb?
[03:13] <effectnet> i wonder why grub comes up
[03:13] <MannyLNJ> zykotick9, thanks
[03:14] <davidmichaelkarr> I just tried to create a 16.40 vbox vm, and at restart it seems to stop, saying: "SMBus base address uninitialized - upgrade BIOS or use force_addr=0xaddr", then "intel_rapi: no valid repl domains found in package 0" (last message again).  It's now been sitting there unchanged for a few minutes now.
[03:14] <davidmichaelkarr> Sorry, 16.04.
[03:19] <Loshki> effectnet: booting 14.04.4 with uefi via usb *is* supported, I think I've done that very installation. If you got as far as grub, booting per se isn't the problem. Wish I knew what was...
[03:22] <effectnet> hmm k i did get it to boot a few times
[03:24] <effectnet> i'll use rufus this time
[03:25] <rizi> guys i have a strange problem,  My vlc can't play video files it can play mp3 file
[03:26] <icecube45> i'm going to have to ask for some ubuntu wizards to help me out: I upgraded to 16.04, and now I can't get to my desktop, if I attempt to login, the screen shows the background, then brings me back to the login menu
[03:26] <Guest6901> @rizi try to update
[03:27] <Guest6901> or maybe you have problem with codec
[03:27] <rizi> Guest6901, update lunix or vlc
[03:27] <effectnet> this is/was a nice asus laptop
[03:27] <rizi> Guest6901, i tried reinstalling vlc still there is probelm
[03:28] <rizi> Guest6901, i am guessing its a problem with one of dependences how can i check
[03:28] <Guest6901> try with other video
[03:28] <Guest6901> maybe error from your video
[03:28] <rizi> Guest6901,  any video
[03:29] <vlouvet> rizi run vlc from command line, it will display any errors in the terminal
[03:29] <rizi> Guest6901,  regardless of video codec
[03:30] <Guest6901> try vlouvet advice
[03:30] <rizi> Guest6901,  its not showing any error i will past it.
[03:31] <effectnet> i wonder if i should not activate the wifi during install
[03:31] <rizi> Guest6901,  http://paste.ubuntu.com/16059236/
[03:32] <Guest6901> before your vlc be error, what are you doing ? sorry my bad english
[03:33] <vlouvet> rizi, did you do "vlc --verbose filename.mp4" without quotes?
[03:33] <rizi> vlouvet, let me try
[03:34] <vlouvet> rizi, replace filename.mp4 with the name and extension of your file
[03:37] <effectnet> i wonder what's happening when it's stuck at 'preparing to install Ubuntu'
[03:39] <jesuslovesyouthi> Has anyone ever seen anything like this? Google got hacked! http://imgur.com/imlZzL9
[03:40] <rizi> vlouvet, Guest6901 http://paste.ubuntu.com/16059267/
[03:40] <vlouvet> jesuslovesyouthi, it could be a MiTM attack against you instead of Google
[03:41] <vlouvet> rizi, the file name is invalid, rename it
[03:41] <rizi> vlouvet, okay
[03:42] <jesuslovesyouthi> vlouvet: oh, my bad. I found out it's something to do with this jack in the box wifi and entering a search term before going through the steps to connect.
[03:42] <jesuslovesyouthi> Does look aweful funny though eh?
[03:42] <vlouvet> jesuslovesyouthi, If I was an un-assuming internet user it would scare the crap out of me
[03:42] <jesuslovesyouthi> lol
[03:43] <effectnet> gosh i didn't think i wouldn't get it installed
[03:44] <rizi> vlouvet, http://paste.ubuntu.com/16059287/
[03:44] <rizi> vlouvet, it still hanged
[03:45] <Bray90820> Is there a way to find a PID of a running aoo
[03:45] <Bray90820> app
[03:45] <Guest6901> Bray90820 type ps
[03:46] <vlouvet> rizi, can you take a picture of your video settings in VLC and pastebin it?
[03:47] <rizi> vlouvet, okay one min, i never uploaded picture
[03:47] <Guest6901> just remove and install again your vlc, maybe work xixixi
[03:47] <vlouvet> rizi, my guess is that the VDPAU driver is not working for you and you need to reset your video settings to default and see if it works
[03:47] <Bray90820> Guest6901: Thanks
[03:47] <Guest6901> Bray90820 okay
[03:49] <vlouvet> rizi, one thing that I would try is to start vlc with --nooverlay option so that you disable hardware overlay, if that doesn't work change your video output to something other than VDPAU
[03:50] <rizi> vlouvet, okay so i reset the setting but problem still exist but now when i go media to open file it gave some error on consol i will paste them
[03:50] <rizi> vlouvet, http://paste.ubuntu.com/16059311/
[03:54] <vlouvet> rizi, what does your settings show on this page http://imgur.com/nYLN4ZL
[03:55] <vlouvet> rizi, it may not be too soon to try a complete re-installation of vlc. try "sudo apt-get remove --purge vlc" then "sudo apt-get install vlc"
[03:56] <akhil> Hi all. Anyone has a resume from suspend problem on inspiron laptops? If i move the laptop in a bag for a bit, it fails to resume.
[03:58] <TJ-> akhil: are you sure it isn't resuming in your bag, then shutting down ?
[04:01] <akhil> TJ-: Nope. I can see the status light blinking.
[04:02] <akhil> TJ-: I checked the DMESG. For successful resumes, i see the S3 tag in the kern.log. Otherwise, the last message during suspend would be the network manager sleeping.
[04:02] <etzerd> can someone please help me here
[04:03] <etzerd> the grub menu is not loaded when I start the computer. it went right to windows instead of giving me the option to choose which OS to use. please help
[04:05] <vlouvet> when booting the computer, hitting shift repeatedly should bring up the grub menu
[04:06] <akhil> TJ-: http://pastebin.com/w8fS50Cz this might give you an idea of what i am trying to say.
[04:07] <effectnet> woudl it help if i installed off of a dvd?  i have an external drive
[04:07] <effectnet> hmmm
[04:07] <rizi> vlouvet, i lost net connection
[04:08] <donofrio> lubuntu-16.04-alternate-powerpc working great on my ibook g4 but if anyone has any url's about getting sound, wifi, video 3d(ati) working on my hardware http://apaste.info/cUs
[04:08] <vlouvet> rizi, is your video output set to vdpau?
[04:09] <rizi> vlouvet, not its set to auto
[04:10] <rizi> vlouvet, but now after install it says this "[00007f2350c25458] avcodec decoder: Using Intel i965 driver for Intel(R) Sandybridge Mobile - 1.7.0 for hardware decoding.
[04:10] <rizi> "
[04:10] <vlouvet> rizi, =) there we go! does it still crash?
[04:10] <TJ-> akhil: so there's 1 big difference there. the power-on time. It could be that after running some process, or after some period of time, the system gets in a weird state that causes the failure. have you tried booting it clean, don't log in, leave it for a long while then shut the lid to force a suspend, and see if the time-since-boot is an issue.
[04:11] <voyager_> hi all
[04:11] <voyager_> mate or unity?
[04:11] <vlouvet> mate
[04:11] <voyager_> ))
[04:11] <TJ-> akhil: then do the opposite test. boot it clean, log-in, run lots of the programs you'd norlamlly run in a regular session, but do it quickly, so they've all run/are running, then try a suspend
[04:12] <voyager_> 3 years support
[04:12] <rizi> vlouvet, yes
[04:12] <voyager_> unity 5 years
[04:13] <akhil> TJ-: I have done that. In fact i went through my usual workload last night and left it on suspend overnight (without the charger plugged in). It resumed without a problem. If i move from one place to elsewhere carrying the laptop in a bag it seems to be a problem. The weird thing is, on 15.10 it was fine.
[04:14] <TJ-> akhil: loose connection!
[04:14] <rizi> vlouvet, what does this error mean
[04:14] <akhil> TJ-: I also cycled through back to back suspend resume routines.
[04:14] <TJ-> akhil: my partner used to find problems when he took his laptop around in his backpack in uni, turned out there was loads of humidty collecting inside it and the laptop
[04:15] <akhil> TJ-: I had this problem once on fedora 23, but it did not show itself after a while.
[04:16] <akhil> TJ-: I am now wondering if this had anything to do with it. Apr 26 03:40:38 techalien kernel: [  966.371700] [drm:r600_ring_test [radeon]] *ERROR* radeon: ring 0 test failed (scratch(0x850C)=0xCAFEDEAD)
[04:16] <akhil> Apr 26 03:40:38 techalien kernel: [  966.371719] [drm:si_resume [radeon]] *ERROR* si startup failed on resume
[04:17] <TJ-> akhil: could it be that 1 suspend/resume works but a subsequent suspend fails?
[04:17] <akhil> TJ-: Nope. did 3 consective tests.
[04:17] <TJ-> akhil: it's not unknown for the hardware not to be correctly reinitialised on resume, so a subsequent suspend can go all fooey
[04:18] <TJ-> akhil: if the bag is the common factor I'd plump for something physical - loose connection, something metallic loose inside shorting out, or humidity. That log shows there was an uncommanded unexpected power-off
[04:18] <akhil> I have had suspend freeze problems on the 4.4 kernel. So i updated to kernel 4.5.2. Now suspend works as long as the laptop is stationary. Sigh. The closest i came across a similar problem was http://askubuntu.com/questions/699957/laptop-sometimes-cannot-wake-up-from-suspend
[04:18] <glass> does anyone know the ubuntu mate channel name off top of thier head?
[04:20] <dax> glass: #ubuntu-mate
[04:21] <akhil> TJ-: I will do the suspend resume again and see if the same gap is creeping in. Will paste the log in a few.
[04:23] <akhil> TJ-: http://pastebin.com/FNJQH6hd
[04:24] <TJ-> akhil: does the laptop have a spinning disk?
[04:25] <akhil> TJ-: I think the gap is because the log is written upon resume and not during the suspend. Its approx the amount of time i waited before resuming from suspend. Question: Yes i have a normal HDD.
[04:26] <TJ-> akhil: i still think its physical, if you can only reproduce when the laptop has been in a bag and knocked around a bit
[04:28] <akhil> TJ-: SMART data checks out fine. In any case, suspend uses the RAM only right? :: The kern.log stops at the "Network Manager is now ASLEEP" state if resume fails.
[04:30] <akhil> TJ-: I did shake the laptop around vigorously. But the error shows up only if moved "naturally"
[04:31] <jajaja> how can i get info about touchpad device
[04:34] <e^1> ubuntu support zfs out of the box with new LTS release ?
[04:35] <OERIAS> Every update to a new release, whether it is a regular release or an LTS, it sure seems to screw up
[04:36] <bcardarella> where would upstart scripts be?
[04:36] <bcardarella> if I were looking for them
[04:43] <towlie> is there a way to force an application to open on a specific desktop window. Some applications are opening on my secondary monitor but I want them to open on my primary monitor
[04:44] <virtual_> 晕， 这是聊天室啊
[04:44] <virtual_> 我还以为是IM客户端呢，
[04:53] <user123irc> hello jus installed ubunt - where I can firnd software center ?
[04:55] <sebsebseb> user123irc: an icon on left or a search for it
[04:55] <user123irc> ubuntu software ?
[04:55] <user123irc> ist an emty
[04:55] <user123irc> how to fix it ?
[04:57] <user123irc> what server for software updates should be choosen ?
[04:59] <sebsebseb> user123irc: your country server
[04:59] <sebsebseb> user123irc: make sure all that is enabled and should work
[05:02] <user123irc> sebsebseb:  no aplication dat found
[05:03] <user123irc> no categories nothing...
[05:12] <user123irc> also cannot open an BIN file
[05:13] <sonicdissonanz> hello everybody
[05:16] <sebsebseb> user123irc: BIN file for what
[05:17] <user123irc> genymotion  android emulator install
[05:17] <sebsebseb> user123irc: right click
[05:17] <sebsebseb> user123irc: properties tell it to be able to use as an executable file
[05:17] <sebsebseb> and will need some command to install as well probably not sure what
[05:19] <user123irc> it says select app to install file
[05:19] <user123irc> wich app to choose ?
[05:21] <h3ctic> anyone upgrade ubuntu to 16.04 and install php-fpm?
[05:22] <h3ctic> my one keep unactive after I copied the old configuration into the new one..
[05:30] <phablet> is there a better channel  for ubuntu /  bq  Aquarius M10 tablet? BT mouse wont work..
[05:30] <NoOova> Hi guys!
[05:31] <robotdevil1> ok still trying to understand this UEFI thing
[05:31] <xangua> !touch |   phablet
[05:31] <sonicdissonanz> NoOova: Hello !
[05:32] <NoOova> How to understand control character specification: "^[^_"
[05:32] <NoOova> First ^ is Control, next [ is Alt?
[05:32] <robotdevil1> so is it pertinent that ubuntu be installed installed in UEFI mode if windows was??
[05:33] <robotdevil1> I am trying to dual boot windows 10 and ubuntu 14.04
[05:35] <robotdevil1> I have ubuntu installed and can select it to boot if I press f9 and select ubuntu loader instead of the microsoft one
[05:35] <robotdevil1> but as soon as I restart then its back into the windows loop
[05:37] <robotdevil1> so its there but instead of installing to MBR should I have installed to EFI partiton or something?
[05:38] <robotdevil1> there seems to be no way to just select ubuntu loader for the default
[05:38] <Rhorse> robotdevil1: If you intall to MBR, you have to make sure your box can boot in Bios as opposed to UEFI mode. There should be a menu selection in the bios to effect this.
[05:39] <robotdevil1> Rhorse: doesnt seem to have one
[05:40] <robotdevil1> isnt there a little gui program that can fix the bootloader issue?
[05:40] <robotdevil1> think it was called boot repair or something
[05:41] <Rhorse> robotdevil1: in that case follow the handbook for UEFI/GPT. Of course you can always use a Grub boot disk to locate your kernel and boot it, no matter what bootloader you choose to install....
[05:42] <robotdevil1> Rhorse: right
[05:42] <Rhorse> ...assuming your box can be made to boot from the USB or CD Rom drive...
[05:42] <robotdevil1> yep
[05:43] <robotdevil1> but I dont want a usb boot all the time
[05:43] <Nilesh_> I installed libqt5multimedia* package on ubuntu, but i dont get libQt5Multimedia.so.5.2.1 ...perhaps /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libQt5Multimedia.s symlink points to the lib ? Am i missing something ? is this the right channel to ask thi qu
[05:43] <robotdevil1> should I just have installed grub somewhere else?
[05:46] <Rhorse> robotdevil1: I think you can change around the default boot order by messing around in /etc/default/grub
[05:47] <robotdevil1> ok but it is always hitting the windows loader when the computer boots
[05:47] <robotdevil1> instead of grub
[05:48] <Rhorse> right, because grub is automatically chainloading it by default. I _think_ that can be changed so that a menu always comes up.
[05:51] <robotdevil1> oh
[05:52] <robotdevil1> see i thought it was due to GPT partition
[05:52] <kris__> use grub recovery
[05:53] <robotdevil1> kris__: how
[05:53] <kris__> with usb boot
[05:54] <kris__> boot repair disk
[05:54] <kris__> iso file on boot flsah usb stick
[05:55] <robotdevil1> i have the usb stick installer still
[05:58] <kris__> download boot-repair-disk-64bit.iso and write on boobtable usb try
[05:59] <robotdevil1> oh i see
[06:00] <robotdevil1> isnt there an efi partiton I can write grub to or something
[06:04] <z999> how do i disable the adblocker in firefox?
[06:04] <z999> i tried to refresh it, remove any software i installed but i still get the adblocker is in installed
[06:05] <trijntje> z999: where do you 'get' this exactly?
[06:05] <z999> trijntje, when i try to view cbs news
[06:05] <Wulf> z999: why do you want ads?
[06:06] <z999> wulf, it won't let me see the videos
[06:06] <trijntje> z999: cbs news is probably confused by the fact you dont have flash installed
[06:06] <z999> trijntje, what do i do?
[06:06] <Wulf> z999: can you send me an URL of such a video?
[06:06] <z999> ok
[06:07] <trijntje> z999: install flashplugin-nonfree
[06:07] <Wulf> don't
[06:07] <Wulf> flash is a security hazard
[06:07] <trijntje> meh
[06:07] <z999> http://www.cbsnews.com/videos/424-sanders-kasich-salvanto/
[06:07] <z999> i keep getting the message "disable ad"
[06:08] <Wulf> z999: $ youtube-dl http://www.cbsnews.com/videos/424-sanders-kasich-salvanto/   works like a charm.
[06:08] <z999> wulf not to me
[06:08] <Wulf> z999: did you read the "youtube-dl" part?
[06:09] <Wulf> jeez, now I have to watch this jackass
[06:09] <lotuspsychje> !language | Wulf
[06:09] <Wulf> lotuspsychje: may I say "Trump" or is that foul language too?
[06:10] <lotuspsychje> Wulf: lets not offtopic and keep polite in this channel
[06:12] <Sachiru> Query: Are there any definitive guides on how to dual-boot Ubuntu 14.04 and 16.04 out there?
[06:12] <z999> i tried to install no flash
[06:12] <Wulf> Sachiru: install both, configure grub so it can boot both
[06:12] <z999> didn't work
[06:12] <Wulf> z999: just use youtube-dl, it's the best
[06:13] <z999> i still get the block message
[06:13] <z999> how wulf?
[06:13] <lotuspsychje> Sachiru: yeah, you can install ubuntu versions 'next' to each other
[06:13] <Wulf> z999: youtube-dl <url>
[06:13] <Wulf> z999: in the shell
[06:13] <Wulf> z999: and then use your favourite video player watch your video
[06:14] <Sachiru> They have to reside on different partitions, right? Is there like a page or something?
[06:14] <lotuspsychje> Sachiru: the ubuntu installer will guide you
[06:14] <Wulf> Sachiru: yes, different partitions. Not sure about a guide
[06:14] <Wulf> Sachiru: /boot could be shared
[06:14] <Sachiru> Thanks. Is there a way to install 16.04 within 14.04? So that I no longer need to boot into a liveCD or something?
[06:15] <z999> wulf i don't know how to do that
[06:15] <Wulf> z999: huh? You don't know how to open a shell or terminal?
[06:16] <lotuspsychje> Sachiru: not within, but 'next to', just use your 16.04 usb and ubuntu will ask you what to do
[06:16] <z999> i know how to open a terminal
[06:16] <z999> you said shell
[06:16] <Wulf> z999: which is kind of the same
[06:16] <Sachiru> The situation is this: Right now my NAS box is running 14.04 on ZFS root. I wish to install 16.04 without having to reboot from 14.04 (so that the kids won't complain about no movies).
[06:16] <Sachiru> My plan is to create an alternative dataset and install 16.04 on there.
[06:17] <Sachiru> Then configure grub to display both as boot options (to test 16.04 stability, with the goal being eventual migration to 16.04).
[06:17] <lotuspsychje> Sachiru: not possible to run 16.04 and 14.04 togheter without a reboot
[06:18] <lotuspsychje> Sachiru: you can install a 16.04 virtual machine on your 14.04 box if you like
[06:18] <[diablo]> Good morning #ubuntu ... erm, guys where the hell has XChat gone? This XChat-GNOME is erm, poop
[06:18] <lotuspsychje> [diablo]: xchat is no longer maintained well
[06:18] <trijntje> Sachiru: why not take a snapshot, upgrade 14.04 to 16.04, and revert the snapshot if there are problems?
[06:19] <lotuspsychje> [diablo]: use hexchat instead as alternative
[06:19] <Sachiru> That can work, trijntje.
[06:19] <[diablo]> oh ok
[06:19] <[diablo]> wow, I'm shocked, I've used xchat for over a decade I guess
[06:19] <Sachiru> Or probably I can snapshot 14.04, clone the snapshot to a new dataset, chroot to the dataset, do the upgrade, add the new dataset to grub entries, then reboot?
[06:19] <Sachiru> That way is less disruptive I think?
[06:19] <lotuspsychje> [diablo]: its still supported in repos, but you will find more benefits with hexchat :p
[06:20] <Sachiru> [diablo]: Try hexchat.
[06:20] <[diablo]> Cool cheers lotuspsychje I'll give it a whirl
[06:20] <[diablo]> installing, brb
[06:22] <nils_> Sachiru, I'm just thinking, don't you have to set the bootfs property on a per pool basis?
[06:22] <Sachiru> nils_: Not really, no.
[06:23] <Sachiru> My current setup is with a pool named rootPool
[06:23] <Sachiru> Ubuntu 14.04 is installed into rootPool/ROOT/ubuntu
[06:23] <[diablo]> sweet thats better looking
[06:23] <nils_> Sachiru, well then, the chroot thing could work but it may still impact the running system since you'll likely have to bind mount /dev, /proc etc.
[06:23] <Sachiru> I can clone that into rootPool/ROOT/Xenial
[06:24] <Sachiru> So hmm, chroot won't work then?
[06:24] <ubuntu881> Hello, i have just installed ubuntu 16.04 but ufw do not enable at startup
[06:24] <Sachiru> ubuntu881: have you tried running "sudo ufw enable"?
[06:25] <trijntje> z999: did you install flashplugin-nonfree?
[06:25] <ubuntu881> Yes but didn't work
[06:25] <Guido1> I want to print on a printer conected to an XP computer, but I have to enter a username and pasword. If I want to acces a shared folder I just get the message that I'm not autorised.
[06:25] <trijntje> did you restart firefox afterwards z999?
[06:25] <z999> where do i find it?
[06:25] <nils_> Sachiru, I have never tried that actually. Do you have a separate fs for /var?
[06:25] <Sachiru> ubuntu881: what was the error message?
[06:26] <Sachiru> nils_: No. Everything resides on rootPool/ROOT/ubuntu
[06:26] <trijntje> z999: so you didn't install flashplugin-nonfree? Please be exact
[06:26] <Sachiru> That makes it easy to clone and rollback.
[06:26] <nils_> Sachiru, there may also be an issue if you're running a database like postgres or MySQL since the data files will diverge when you clone.
[06:26] <Sachiru> Nope, no databases on this box.
[06:26] <zanzabar> Can anyone help me with this issue? https://www.reddit.com/r/RetroPie/comments/4gbmig/retropie_plexmediaserver/ Not sure what direction to go in from here.
[06:26] <Sachiru> Only samba and KVM.
[06:27] <Sachiru> Oh, and netdata for monitoring.
[06:27] <nils_> KVM using zvols as backing store? ;)
[06:27] <ubuntu881> What error message?
[06:28] <Sachiru> Yes.
[06:28] <nils_> I think you can try it on the clone, worst that could happen is that you have to discard the clone and reboot to a clean state.
[06:28] <zanzabar> I thought I might try to build PlexMedia server from source but not sure if that would help or not as I am not sure what the error is here, or what the problem is.
[06:28] <z999> trijntje, did now. still doesn't work
[06:28] <Sachiru> ubuntu881: How do you know that ufw is not starting on startup? What message did Ubuntu spit out that lead you to that conclusion?
[06:28] <trijntje> z999: did you restart your browser? What browser are you using?
[06:28] <z999> firefox
[06:29] <Sachiru> nils_: Yeah, but the problem is that if I do it in the clone, as you said, I might damage /dev
[06:29] <z999> yes restarted browser
[06:29] <streulma> I have the infinit loop with nvidia card on login with 16.04 how can I solve ?
[06:29] <ubuntu881> After startup i type sudo ufw status and it is disabled
[06:29] <lotuspsychje> streulma: upgrade or clean install?
[06:29] <streulma> clean
[06:29] <lotuspsychje> streulma: wich card chipset?
[06:30] <nils_> Sachiru, yeah, what might happen is that grub is overwritten (if you're using grub) and depending on where your /boot resides that may lead to trouble
[06:31] <nils_> for what it's worth, I upgraded my ZFS (on LUKS) based workstation last night without trouble (15.10 to 16.04 though)
[06:31] <trijntje> z999: hmm, I cant get it to play either. Maybe cbs is using silverlight, in which case it wont play on linux
[06:31] <nils_> and I just did it with a snapshot
[06:31] <Sachiru> ubuntu881: and you definitely ran "sudo ufw enable" before rebooting?
[06:31] <Sachiru> nils_: /boot resides on a different dataset (rootPool/BOOT)
[06:31] <ubuntu881> Yes sure
[06:32] <z999> trijntje, i tried to play on another browser but it won't play
[06:32] <z999> trijntje, not silverlight
[06:32] <nils_> Sachiru, hmm alright, I still use an ext4 based /boot...
[06:32] <lotuspsychje> z999: disable all your plugins/addons first, your url plays like a charm here
[06:33] <z999> lotus, i disable flash?
[06:33] <streulma> lotuspsychje: 7300GT Login screen shows
[06:33] <z999> lotuspsychje, i tried that 5 times already and it is the same
[06:33] <lotuspsychje> z999: no, disable add blockers
[06:33] <Sachiru> nils_: I did it this way because of the possibility to do beadm-style boot environments, once grub fully supports ZFS and LUA scripting
[06:33] <z999> i don't have adblockers
[06:33] <lotuspsychje> streulma: try to get in desktop with nomodeset perhaps?
[06:34] <Sachiru> LUA script in grub.cfg to enumerate snapshots, then another script to clone a snapshot and boot into the clone = instant boot environment
[06:34] <z999> brb restarting computer
[06:34] <lotuspsychje> z999: create another user and test the video from FF
[06:34] <nils_> Sachiru, yeah that would be pretty sweet.
[06:35] <brianx> is it possible to get a more traditional window decoration under unity?  all the themes i've found so far put a shadow around the window instead of a boarder.  shadows don't work well with VNC over low bandwidth connections.
[06:35] <Sachiru> The ability to snapshot, upgrade and test, then do "sudo zfs promote <pool>/ROOT/currentBE" when it succeeds, and simply reboot when it fails, is a godsend for testing.
[06:35] <cdidd> apt just downloaded packages on its own. I ctr;
[06:35] <lotuspsychje> brianx: you can tweak stuff with ccsm perhaps?
[06:36] <cdidd> ctrl-C the command, but the packages were downloaded into cache anyway. What's going on?
[06:36] <brianx> lotuspsychje: any hint as to where in ccsm?  i've been playing in there for a few hours and haven't found it.
[06:37] <lotuspsychje> brianx: not sure where exactly, there is also unity-tweak-tool if you like
[06:37] <z999> doesn't work
[06:37] <z999> doesn't work
[06:37] <lotuspsychje> z999: tested on another user?
[06:37] <zanzabar> Can anyone point me in the right direction for attempting to compile PlexMediaServer from source? Trying to fix these errors https://www.reddit.com/r/RetroPie/comments/4gbmig/retropie_plexmediaserver/
[06:37] <lotuspsychje> zanzabar: your on ubuntu server?
[06:37] <brianx> lotuspsychje: unity tweak is pretty simple, i've been through all of the options there, no joy.
[06:38] <lotuspsychje> brianx: ok, perhaps ccsm play then?
[06:38] <Wulf> zanzabar: find out which URL this is trying to fetch
[06:38] <brianx> lotuspsychje: "ccsm play"  not sure what that is.
[06:38] <zanzabar> lotuspsychje: I am on a retropie machine which is based off of debian which is the same as ubuntu right?
[06:38] <Wulf> zanzabar: Downloading readynas package ...
[06:38] <Wulf> curl: (60) SSL certificate problem: unable to get local issuer certificate
[06:38] <trijntje> brianx: do you really want to use the unity interface? You could install an alternative, minimalist desktop environment for VNC
[06:38] <z999> lotuspsychje, tried another user. doesn't work
[06:39] <lotuspsychje> !info compizconfig-settings-manager | brianx try this :p
[06:39] <lotuspsychje> zanzabar: we only support ubuntu here sorry
[06:39] <zanzabar> Wulf: not sure I follow, should I manually install readynas and then try to install again
[06:40] <zanzabar> lotuspsychje: gotcha I thought it was all similar/connected my bad.
[06:40] <brianx> isn't compizconfig-settings-manager ccsm?  pretty sure that's what i'm using.
[06:40] <lotuspsychje> brianx: correct
[06:40] <Wulf> zanzabar: would be another option, but I'd first try to understand the problem
[06:40] <z999> trijntje, maybe is the video drivers?
[06:40] <lotuspsychje> zanzabar: perhaps #debian or more specific channel?
[06:41] <zanzabar> lotuspsychje: that might be a good idea, I will head out thanks.
[06:41] <lotuspsychje> z999: can you play vlc movies?
[06:41] <brianx> trijntje: i'd rather stick to one window manager and avoid getting away from the main distro option.
[06:41] <z999> link me something and i will tell you
[06:41] <zanzabar> Wulf: thanks I do need to figure out the problem before I solve it but not sure what the problem is or how to figure out what the problem is
[06:41] <brianx> shouldn't changing the decorations be easy?
[06:42] <lotuspsychje> brianx: did you check ccsm/unity plugin ?
[06:43] <Ascavasaion> how do I doa  distribution upgrade... i see 16 is out.  I am on 14.  I tried sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get dist-upgrade... but it did nothing.
[06:43] <lotuspsychje> !ltsupgrade | Ascavasaion
[06:43] <brianx> lotuspsychje: yes, all 5 tabs.  i can set a solid shadow but that's about my only choice.
[06:44] <Ascavasaion> lotuspsychje: Aaaah, thank you so much. So I must just be patient.
[06:44] <__raven> hi
[06:44] <lotuspsychje> Ascavasaion: if you want it the 'safer' LTS way yes, otherwise you can force upgrade or clean install 16.04
[06:44] <__raven> i am looking for a (online) tool which is able to process and display about 100mb csv files with interactive graphs (zooming, sliding, ...). any idea?
[06:44] <branant> Ascavasaion: sudo do-release-upgrade
[06:45] <Ascavasaion> branant: thank you.
[06:46] <ubuntu881> Good morning, I've just installed Ubuntu 16.04 but firewall (ufw) not enabled after startup. I enabled it with sudo ufw enable but after startap I type sudo ufw status and it says disabled. Can you help me please?
[06:47] <branant> ubuntu881: Inactive is the default state.
[06:47] <_maddy> what is the deal with fonts-droid package being removed (or renamed to fonts-droid-fallback)?
[06:47] <ubuntu881> yes but I did sudo ufw enable to enable it
[06:49] <dksmw> _maddy: they are no longer developed and debian trashed them
[06:50] <ubuntu881> it is enabled but after startup I type sudo ufw status and is disabled
[06:53] <_maddy> dksmw: but I need beautiful fonts for programming, I liked the Droid Sans Mono
[06:53] <branant> ubuntu881: apparently, your firewall is actually running. Try: sudo iptables --list --verbose
[06:54] <robotdevil1> http://paste2.org/ts8pyfzv
[06:54] <branant> ubuntu881: the status you see as disabled actually refers to the rules set with UFW, not to the firewall
[06:55] <ubuntu881> how do you know it is running if it says it is disabled? If I type sudo iptables --list --verbose there is a list
[06:55] <robotdevil1> ugh this thing is awful
[06:56] <ubuntu881> and how can enable the rules?
[06:56] <branant> ubuntu881: Install GUFW, graphical frontend should make it much easier.
[06:56] <dksmw> _maddy: try to lock it via synaptic or dpkg hold
[06:56] <sara2010> hi
[06:57] <ubuntu881> I have already done it I enabled it and after startup it says disabled
[06:57] <sara2010> any one alive
[06:57] <mikeirc> Hello everybody
[06:57] <sara2010>   i m not abble to install google chrome in ubuntu !
[06:57] <trijntje> hi mikeirc and sara2010
[06:57] <lotuspsychje> sara2010: try chromium-browser
[06:58] <robotdevil1> sara2010: type get chrome into any web browser
[06:58] <mikeirc> I'm having problems when extending my screen on projector. Any idea of how to solve that ?
[06:58] <trijntje> robotdevil1, sara2010 that is bad advice, don't install things from outside the ubuntu software center unless there is no other choise
[06:58] <sara2010>  chromium-browser   not  a  google chrome !
[06:59] <lotuspsychje> sara2010: its the ubuntu alternative for chrome
[06:59] <trijntje> sara2010: it is the 'free' version of google chrome, so it uses the same code, but without all the tracking you get with google chrome
[07:00] <sara2010> ahan okay thanks  all !
[07:00] <mikeirc> Hi trijntje
[07:00] <sara2010> any one  know e-mail  extractor ?
[07:01] <dksmw> for outlook?
[07:01] <Cloudblow> how can I enable java plugin on chrome like firefox? (I mean softlink from library jdk)
[07:03] <hateball> Cloudblow: You cant, chromium/chrome dropped npapi support
[07:03] <Cloudblow> hateball: they have support hembended?
[07:03] <mikeirc> Any idea for my display problem ?
[07:04] <ubuntu1604> Hello, I just installed 16.04!
[07:04] <zjhxmjl> hi,everyone!who can give me help?thanks http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2322048
[07:04] <sakusammakko> &exit
[07:04] <ubuntu1604> I have auto hidden the launcher, but now the launcher won't come bac?
[07:04] <ubuntu1604> *back?
[07:04] <trijntje> mikeirc: you have to give a lot more details. What are you trying to do, what program are you using, what was the result you got, why is that wrong
[07:04] <lotuspsychje> ubuntu1604: do you slide the mouse deep enough to the side?
[07:04] <trijntje> ubuntu1604: move your mouse 'outside' of the left part of your monitor, and it will come back. Or hit the windows/super key
[07:04] <hateball> Cloudblow: I have no idea what you just said
[07:05] <streulma> lotuspsychje: Failed to open plugin /usr/bin/gs-plugins-9/libgs_plugin_dg_app_reviews.so
[07:05] <lotuspsychje> streulma: do you know wich driver is active right now?
[07:05] <Cloudblow> hateball: sorry for my english, java plugin is encpsulated into chrome/chromium as plugin?
[07:06] <streulma> lotuspsychje 7300GT
[07:06] <lotuspsychje> streulma: the driver, not the card like nouveau or nvidia- ?
[07:06] <lotuspsychje> streulma: you can check with sudo lshw -C video
[07:07] <mikeirc> I used to use my computer with projector for my lectures. Since one week now when I want to extend my screen to projector, the screen starts flashing bu if I just want to mirror my screen on projector or display only on the projector, it works
[07:07] <streulma> lotuspsychje nvidia
[07:08] <Guest12711> Help, I can't open the Ubuntu launcher from auto hide?
[07:08] <lotuspsychje> streulma: can you try sudo apt purge nivida* and reboot?
[07:08] <zjhxmjl> hi,everyone!who can give me some advance?thanks http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2322048
[07:08] <trijntje> mikeirc: did anything change in the last week? Did you update/upgrade, did someone change the projector? (I don't know about projectors, but I do know about asking the right questions to get help here)
[07:08] <trijntje> Guest12711: hit the super/windows key
[07:09] <pitiye> is there an app like Lubi , (install linux onto a partition from linux), coz Lubi no longer works !
[07:09] <lotuspsychje> streulma: nvidia
[07:09] <mikeirc> Yes I, I just updated not upgraded
[07:10] <ubuntu881> Hello branant, any news about this issue? :)
[07:11] <Guest12711> trijntje: thanks, but the windows key doesn't work (must be buggy Windows lol)
[07:11] <lotuspsychje> pitiye: wih ubuntu version do you have, and what do you wanna do?
[07:12] <pitiye> lotuspsychje: 15.04 , and i want to install 16.04 onto a new partition, without upgrading 15.04, and without using usb key.
[07:12] <lotuspsychje> pitiye: 15.04 is end of life mate
[07:12] <mikeirc> I'm sure that it isn't a hardware problem because I tried with live ubutu and it works
[07:12] <pitiye> lotuspsychje: but its still more stable for me :D
[07:13] <lotuspsychje> !eolupgrade | pitiye
[07:13] <Guest12711> Okay, I restored the launcher that was hidden.
[07:13] <lotuspsychje> pitiye: upgrade asap for security reasons
[07:13] <Guest12711> So, seems to be buggy on 16.04. Auto hide doesn't let the launcher come back.
[07:13] <zjhxmjl_> hi,everyone!who can give me help?thanks http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2322048
[07:14] <branant> ubuntu881: here is a guide for you, it's pretty straight forward. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW
[07:15] <Xark> Guest12711: I haven't noticed any problem with auto-hide.  There is an adjustment for "sensitivity" you may want to adjust (for when it reappears).
[07:15] <hateball> Cloudblow: Yes, the JRE is a plugin that uses npapi. This only works in Firefox
[07:17] <jatin30> Hello everyone!
[07:17] <dksmw> pitiye: try decompressing the filesystem from ISO into that partition and configuring it
[07:17] <ulhas> hi
[07:18] <pitiye> dksmw:  that sounds good ! , is there any guide for it ?
[07:18] <zjhxmjl_> hi,everyone!who can give me help?thanks http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2322048
[07:19] <jatin30> I am new to the community and I have been into algorithmic programming from over a year now but open source code looks gibberish to me. I just started using linux. Any suggestions so that I understand and get comfartable with open source?
[07:19] <dksmw> have no idea. here's some info: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Install_from_existing_Linux#Method_B:_Using_the_LiveCD_image
[07:20] <Guest12711> Xark: thanks. I did restore it, however when hiding again, the launcher won't come out.
[07:20] <Guest12711> Yes, I changed sensitivity from low and high. Not sure what that does really?
[07:22] <ubuntu881> ok thanks bye I'll have a look at it
[07:25] <Cloudblow> hateball: do you now other location for plugin install than /usr/lib/firefox-addons/plugins or ~/.mozzilla/plugins?
[07:27] <Cloudblow> On my workstation I use ppa from webupd8team and i don't find location how it put java plugin
[07:28] <pikapikachu> hi, all. I have installed a executable program in my own home directory(/home/usr1), then what is the easiest way to share this program with another usr(usr2)?  (this program was compiled on my own directory, and relied on many shared libraries)
[07:30] <lotuspsychje> Cloudblow: contact the maintainer of the ppa, we dont support external ppa's
[07:31] <Cloudblow> lotuspsychje: I ask only a general question...
[07:31] <Kartagis> pikapikachu: change the ownership of the directory to usr1:usr2
[07:31] <lucas__> hello
[07:34] <ksa_> With ubuntu14.04 kickstart auto installation works fine. However, when doing the same for 16.04, it stops and wants a preseed configuration file, but if i just press enter it continues and does everything automatic. Any tips for stopping that? Even tried for a preseed file, but still comes. Last entry in logs is "network-preseed" selected. But network looks fine, so not sure why it stops there.
[07:34] <pikapikachu> Kartagis: Thanks. But if I have many other users, all want to use this program, what should I do
[07:35] <Kartagis> pikapikachu: add them all to a common group
[07:35] <Kartagis> and make the owner usr1:commonGroup
[07:36] <pikapikachu> Kartagis: Got it. I will try it out.
[07:46] <effectnet> well hmm i cant get ubuntu installed on this laptop.  i wonder if i deleted the partitions if that would help
[07:51] <streulma_> lotuspsychje: as is Unity slow, it boot with nomodeset
[07:53] <ubuntu1604> Yep, definitely a problem. The panel won't show when on autohide.
[07:58] <n3p3nthess> When I try to update the system, it stays on 0%, looks like I can't connect to the ubuntu archive
[07:58] <n3p3nthess> If I try to ping the (ipv6) ip address next to be.archive.ubuntu.com, I get no response
[07:59] <n3p3nthess> Pinging Google however does work
[07:59] <Pip> How is Ubuntu now?
[08:00] <dksmw> Pip: buggy
[08:00] <Pip> Oh, shit
[08:00] <Wulf> Pip: at 71.9%
[08:00] <Pip> What happened?
[08:01] <randoomguy> hello, I'm getting error while compiling program (mixxx) from source - twice ERROR:root:Unmet dependency: invalid literal for int() with base 10: 'portable' and then ERROR:root:Build had unmet dependencies. Exiting.
[08:01] <randoomguy> I need exactly that version, newer version doesn't work good on my hw.. any idea?
[08:04] <dksmw> randoomguy: and what was in the previous line?
[08:05] <lotuspsychje> !latest | randoomguy
[08:06] <lotuspsychje> randoomguy: best to stick with package versions, meant for your ubuntu version
[08:08] <lotuspsychje> n3p3nthess: did you try a sudo apt-get update?
[08:09] <lotuspsychje> !details | effectnet
[08:11] <randoomguy> dksmw: Configuring Optimize and Configuring SoundTouch
[08:14] <randoomguy> dksmw: http://www.mixxx.org/wiki/doku.php/compiling_on_linux
[08:15] <n3p3nthess> lotuspsychje: yes, getting the same result: connecting to ...., stuck at 0%
[08:17] <n3p3nthess> lotuspsychje: looks like a ipv6 problem
[08:18] <n3p3nthess> lotuspsychje, I can ping to be.archive.ubuntu.com, but ping6 to be.archive.ubuntu.com does not work
[08:18] <lotuspsychje> n3p3nthess: can you try a sudo service network-manager restart
[08:19] <brianx> lotuspsychje: found something that works somewhat: /usr/share/themes/Ambiance/gtk-3.0/apps/unity.css set -UnityDecoration-extents: 32px 2px 2px 2px;
[08:19] <lotuspsychje> !yay | brianx thats a deep tweak :p
[08:20]  * oijeeboo yawns
[08:20] <brianx> it's unix.  everything *should* be a file.  all this button based wizard stuff is for windows users.
[08:21] <randoomguy> lotuspsychje: i updated to latest version of mixxx and got problems because of my hardware.. so i need that previous version which is no longer in software manager so I need that previous version
[08:22] <lotuspsychje> randoomguy: wich ubuntu version are you on?
[08:22] <n3p3nthess> lotuspsychje: Still the same
[08:23] <lotuspsychje> n3p3nthess: perhaps look in your syslog whats happening? tail -f /var/log/syslog
[08:24] <randoomguy> lotuspsychje: 12.04
[08:24] <Guest96427> HELLO
[08:24] <lotuspsychje> !info mixxx precise
[08:24] <Guest96427> where are you from?
[08:24] <lotuspsychje> randoomguy: wich version do you need?
[08:25] <lotuspsychje> Guest96427: you joined the ubuntu support channel, only for ubuntu support questions
[08:25] <Guest96427> backbox 4.5.1
[08:26] <n3p3nthess> lotuspsychje: nothing shows up in the logs about apt
[08:27] <lotuspsychje> n3p3nthess: mess around with network settings a bit now? enable/disable wifi?
[08:27] <n3p3nthess> lotuspsychje: weird that I can ping6 www.google.be but not be.archive.ubuntu.com
[08:28] <akisam> quit
[08:28] <randoomguy> lotuspsychje: 1.10.0, I'm using ubuntu based distro - mint exactly, my version is based on 12.04
[08:29] <lotuspsychje> !mint | randoomguy not supported here
[08:29] <yogg> Hi
[08:29] <OerHeks> randoomguy, then you would need to compile yourself, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/trusty/+source/mixxx  i guess dependencies .. wait, mint?
[08:31] <madduck> something starts /usr/bin/syndaemon with parameters I want to change. However, if I grep /etc, ~/.config and /usr/share for syndaemon, I get no hits. How is this thing started?
[08:31] <madduck> (why is this getting so intransparent?? might just as well use windows if I want to configure my computer through guesswork)
[08:31] <yogg> I have a strange problem with the "phpmyadmin" package. It debends on "php-gettext" and this package is listed in the "control" file of the "phpmyadmin" package. But if I install "phpmyadmin" the dependency will not be installed
[08:32] <yogg> If I install "php-gettext" with apt-get everything works fine
[08:34] <OerHeks> yogg, also php7.0-mbstring ? see this bugreport  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/phpmyadmin/+bug/1572895 + https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/phpmyadmin/+bug/1569128
[08:35] <OerHeks> please confirm the last bugreport to get this under attention
[08:35] <yogg> OerHeks: thx, I will confirm them
[08:40] <Desu> this is a sign that you should not use phpmyadmin
[08:40] <andjjj23> do any of the ubuntu kernel git repos have any linux 4.6 RCs?
[08:40] <k1l_> !mainline | andjjj23
[08:40] <andjjj23> oh ok, so i just use mainline
[08:40] <k1l_> but use at own caution
[08:42] <andjjj23> if yakkety ships with 4.6, will 4.6 likely then become available as a backport for usage on xenial?
[08:43] <egon11> !weather kgd
[08:43] <digilink> [KGD, Russia] Scattered Clouds. Temp is 9*C. East wind: 7 kph. Humidity: 66%.
[08:44] <fernan> [diablo]: explosive: hi
[08:44] <Teaboy> anyone noticed a slight difference in font weight & letter/line spacing after upgrading to 16.04?
[08:44] <OerHeks> digilink, please remove that bot, thanks
[08:45] <fernan> [diablo]: /query
[08:45] <OerHeks> fernan, trying to play with your bot?
[08:45] <rock> toster_: Hi
[08:47] <auronandace|work> andjjj23: if you are talking about the kernel then it will be available via the enablement stack
[08:47] <andjjj23> auronandace|work: yes i am. thanks. i also just found https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[08:48] <rock> abort_: Hola Guapa, Kieres Trambolikeo???
[08:48] <winsen> Hi all
[08:49] <winsen> how to keep my system clean and faster on debian or on linux in general?
[08:49] <andjjj23> in practice, does running a mainline kernel frequently cause major issues?
[08:49] <embrik> Ubuntu phone: anyone knows if it is possible to install snapchat on ubuntu phone`?
[08:49] <andjjj23> (interested in feedback from folks that regularly use mainline kernels with 14.04)
[08:50] <auronandace|work> andjjj23: in practice it means you'll need to maintain it yourself
[08:50] <auronandace|work> !touch | embrik
[08:51] <embrik> Chuckuzzo: Thanks
[08:53] <blanko> how to fix this error: vgaarb: this pci device is not a vga device
[08:53] <blanko> nvidi GTX 950M
[08:53] <blanko> ubuntu 16.04
[08:55] <ubuntu-mate> test
[08:56] <CptUnlucky> hi all, someone with problems on Ubuntu 16.04 with ralink wifi card ?
[08:57] <andjjj23> blanko: when did you get that error?
[08:57] <OerHeks> blanko, seems to be an old bug, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1381175
[08:57] <CptUnlucky> yesterday, after the upgrade from 15 -> 16.x
[08:57] <OerHeks> vgaarb module not patched for 3D
[08:58] <CptUnlucky> ops, sorry question was not for me
[08:58] <Teaboy> argh my fonts are all so wide
[09:00] <zetheroo> normally I wait a few months after a LTS release to get it when the initial bugs have been dealt with - how is it looking for 16.04?
[09:02] <auronandace|work> zetheroo: works great for me, anything specific you have in mind?
[09:02] <zetheroo> auronandace|work: not really
[09:02] <Ox032F> I'm trying to upgrade a server from 14.04 to 16.04 and I thought systemd is the new default, but it is not installed, which packages do I need to add manually?
[09:02] <zetheroo> I am actually surprised it's so quiet in here :)
[09:02] <de-facto> zetheroo how would you expect someone to answer this? it has been stabilized before release i guess and works fine for many, but having a bug always depends on the individual scenario, hence could be just fine, but possibly you will run into bugs which wont be corrected if you dont report them
[09:02] <zetheroo> must be a good thing ..
[09:03] <lotuspsychje> !ltsupgrade | Ox032F
[09:04] <Ox032F> so anyway to go back?
[09:04] <zetheroo> de-facto: well I recall in the past this channel being a hive of activity with people asking about hardware issues just after a new release - graphics issues, sound issues etc ...
[09:05] <zetheroo> But it seems rather quieter in here now. I take that to be a good thing.
[09:05] <MrZone_> Hello, may i ask LXD related questions in here?
[09:05] <_maddy> zetheroo: you should probably wait a few months just to be sure, if that's how you are used to doing it
[09:05] <lotuspsychje> Ox032F: oh you already upgraded? better not trying to go back then
[09:06] <bbd> hello
[09:06] <lotuspsychje> MrZone: anything related to ubuntu fits here
[09:06] <blanko> OerHeks how to config this patch
[09:06] <Ox032F> lotuspsychje: yes, but I get the error "/usr/sbin/invoke-rc.d: 1: /usr/sbin/invoke-rc.d: /sbin/runlevel: not found" a lot, so I thought the init system is messed up
[09:07] <Ox032F> now I'm also wondering whether it is actually possible to upgrade a virtual server
[09:07] <de-facto> zetheroo yeah it seems not too many of those this time, yet there have been some of course. If you are really curious you could try to test your hardware from within a livecd and if it works fine for you upgrade your real box
[09:07] <lotuspsychje> Ox032F: perhaps the #ubuntu-server guys might give you a hand with that
[09:08] <Ox032F> lotuspsychje: thx I'll ask there
[09:09] <MrZone> I am using LXD and trying to limit the usage of swap per container. In LXD you use profiles that you link the containters to when you create them. For example; "limits.memory 2GB" gives you 2 gigs of mem. However, for the "limits.memory.swap" the only 2 flags you can set is "true" or "false". You can also set the priority according to https://linuxcontainers.org/lxd/news/ but i am rather more into restricting the swap usage for each user in the attempt
[09:10] <ziz15> hello does anyone know how to make brasero hide the recent projects??thanks
[09:11] <bbd> h
[09:11] <TvL2386> hi guys! Anybody know of a cool SFTP server solution?
[09:11] <kernel_mutex> hi
[09:12] <kernel_mutex> I was looking for building a package from the source.
[09:12] <kernel_mutex> I didn't find any debian related spec file.
[09:12] <MrZone> TvL2386: SFPT is included in openssh. You can connect to SFTP on port 22.
[09:12] <kernel_mutex> In the source package.
[09:12] <kernel_mutex> So where are those scripts
[09:12] <dksmw> kernel_mutex: should they be there?
[09:13] <de-facto> kernel_mutex debian does not use spec files
[09:13] <kernel_mutex> I just saying that I downloaded that sources, from apt-get source --download-only option
[09:13] <kernel_mutex> So where are dpkg spec file ?
[09:13] <de-facto> there is a debian directory in the source dir
[09:14] <TvL2386> MrZone, yeah I want to make an SFTP server for my colleagues to put files and have customers download them... but I'm thinking of how to authenticate and keep ppl in there own directory....
[09:14] <de-facto> go in the source dir and "dpkg-buildpackage"
[09:14] <Desu> TvL2386: openssh does all that
[09:14] <Desu> TvL2386: force-command internal-sftp; ChrootDirectory; etc
[09:15] <dksmw> kernel_mutex: dpkg-buildpackage -uc -us
[09:15] <TvL2386> Desu, cool! How would you do user management?
[09:15] <Desu> TvL2386: only allow key or 2fa access, make sure you are not allowing dsa keys or protocol 1
[09:15] <Desu> TvL2386: you use "real" sytem users
[09:15] <Desu> system*
[09:15] <MrZone> TvL2386: You can setup anonymous login for the download only.
[09:15] <Desu> either traditional local accounts or radius/ldap/whatever
[09:15] <Desu> don't do that
[09:16] <Desu> then you could just as well just have a open http server with no auth
[09:16] <MrZone> Desu: How would you go about making it so that users that connect to SFTP cannot see other directories? Eg. just see the one they connect to and not /
[09:16] <blanko> how to fix this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1381175
[09:16] <blanko> step by step please
[09:16] <Desu> MrZone: ChrootDirectory
[09:17] <Desu> MrZone: man -P "less -p ChrootDirectory" sshd_config
[09:17] <MrZone> Desu: So make them an account with nologin shell and ChrootDirecitiry?
[09:17] <Desu> it has a downside thouhg, the target must he root:root
[09:17] <Desu> MrZone: no
[09:18] <Desu> MrZone: man -P "less -p forcecommand" sshd_config
[09:19] <Desu> you set that to internal-sftp
[09:19] <Desu> (asuming a non-outdated openssh version)
[09:19] <zzarr> hello!
[09:20] <MrZone> Desu: Nice
[09:20] <Desu> also see the "Subsystem" option
[09:20] <zzarr> I get an error "relocation error: <bin here> symbol _ZNSt7__cxx1112basic_stringIcSt11char_traitsIcESaIcEED1Ev, version GLIBCXX_3.4.21 not defined in file libstdc++.so.6 with link time reference"
[09:20] <zzarr> have anyone an idea what's wrong?
[09:20] <Desu> there are several good guides on how to do scp/sftp only using openssh, don't read any guide that tells you to mess wtih login shells, using rssh or similar
[09:20] <Desu> they are all horribly outdated
[09:21] <orf_> Hi, I've found a reproducable crash in gnome-shell when using the Chromium developer tools.
[09:21] <de-facto> zzarr the <bin here> has been build with another version of libstdc++?
[09:21] <de-facto> if it has symbols not in your version of it
[09:21] <orf_> How do I find out if it's a problem with Chromium or Gnome?
[09:22] <zzarr> de-facto, I built the project under 16.04 and try to run it under 14.04, but both systems have version 6 of the lib
[09:23] <easy> hi all, i am using ubuntu 16.04 and i want to change its plymouth splash screen to xubuntu, but i am getting following error while installing xubuntu theme, one more thing i would like to mention that  Ubuntu was booting with a black screen( NO animation) and now it is booting in text mode,  plymouth locations has been changed from /etc/plymouth to /usr/share/plymouth and i edited .plymouth file accordingly, but no solution, please help me to solve the error g
[09:23] <easy> iven below
[09:23] <easy> W: plymouth module (/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/plymouth//.so) missing, skipping that theme.
[09:23] <zzarr> can I check the exact version of the libs some how?
[09:25] <zzarr> both systems are up to date
[09:26] <easy> somebody with plymouth knowledge , help me, it is 64 bit system, and following error got while installing plymouth theme ) W: plymouth module (/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/plymouth//.so) missing, skipping that theme.
[09:27] <de-facto> zzarr hmm probably it was linked against some symbols which are in the 16.04 version of libstdc++ but are not in the 14.04 version? just my guess
[09:27] <zzarr> de-facto, I think you're on to something
[09:28] <de-facto> zzarr maybe you should ask in #ubuntu-devel
[09:28] <blanko> how to fix this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1381175
[09:28] <blanko> step by step please
[09:28] <blanko> thanks
[09:29] <xnaveira> Hi guys, I was wondering if there is a reference for the kernel boot parameters for the Ubuntu 1604 netinstall? We're using the same as 14.04 but we get a "Booting kernel failed: Invalid argument"
[09:30] <zzarr> de-facto, I'm upgrading the 14.04 machine to 16.04 (it's an virtual machine and I have an backup)
[09:34] <ElectroMotive> so for some reason the calendar on this install is not in English using xfce
[09:36] <Desu> ElectroMotive: post output of `locale`
[09:36] <Desu> (use a sane pastebin like bpaste.net, ptpb.pw, gist.github.com)
[09:37] <ElectroMotive> it says en_US.UTF-8
[09:38] <Desu> for *all* of them?
[09:38] <ElectroMotive> except for where it says LC_ALL= and where it says LANGUAGE=
[09:38] <ElectroMotive> but everywhere else it says the above
[09:39] <ElectroMotive> the other two are empty
[09:39] <Desu> that is fine
[09:39] <ElectroMotive> yeah but when i click on my calendar it is in some other language
[09:40] <dksmw> ElectroMotive: what language is the calender in?
[09:40] <Desu> which calendar program?
[09:40] <ElectroMotive> i am not sure
[09:40] <ElectroMotive> for either question
[09:40] <dksmw> ElectroMotive: is it written with letters?
[09:41] <ElectroMotive> yes
[09:41] <noelia> Hello everyone
[09:41] <ElectroMotive> Agda Baxisso is the current month
[09:42] <noelia> I'm having some troubles with Ubuntu 16.04 and the Realtek RTL8188EE Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01)
[09:42] <dksmw> ElectroMotive: what do you see in locale -a?
[09:43] <noelia> It gets connected and disconnected all the time
[09:43] <noelia> I downloaded the driver from http://152.104.125.41/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=48&PFid=48&Level=5&Conn=4&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false&Downloads=true#2722
[09:44] <noelia> But it returns errors when I try to install it.
[09:44] <ElectroMotive> dksmw, a very long list
[09:45] <Tanvir> Hello, I am trying to upgrade from 15.10 to 16.04. I have opened Software Updater, and clicked on upgrade, then typed my password to authenticate, and clicked on okay button. Then the window disappears and nothing happened. What could be the problem here and how to solve it?
[09:46] <TvL2386> Desu, thanks for all your remarks! I've documented them and I'm going to investigate how to setup a good sftp server
[09:46] <ruicruz> hello there. libqt4 is not installed in ubuntu 16. how can I solve this and install it? its missing for a program I use.
[09:48] <ElectroMotive> Tanvir, you may try do-release-upgrade
[09:48] <ElectroMotive> in terminal
[09:48] <ElectroMotive> invoking sudo of course
[09:48] <Tanvir> How to do that?
[09:49] <ElectroMotive> open the terminal and type sudo do-release-upgrade
[09:49] <dksmw> ruicruz: libqtcore4
[09:49] <ElectroMotive> clear
[09:49] <ElectroMotive> oops
[09:50] <rp2> I've once had that fail. The cause was probably packages installed from 3rd-party PPAs. So you may need to uninstall those first
[09:50] <ElectroMotive> gotta love when you think you are typing in a terminal and you are really typing into the chat
[09:50] <sapa_inyong> how to personal chat on Xchat?
[09:50] <jiggawattz> sapa_inyong ▸ /msg user
[09:51] <ruicruz> dkessel ok, got it.
[09:51] <akhil> Guys. Having a weird problem with suspend. Sometimes after i move my laptop under suspend, it fails to resume. However, deliberately shaking the laptop does not bring it up. the entire suspend sequence is written to log only after wakeup, so i do not know what is happening (laptop powers off completely when i try to resume from suspend in such cases)
[09:51] <Tanvir> ElectroMotive, seems it's working as it's downloading stuff! Thanks!
[09:51] <ElectroMotive> yeah i hope you have a backup just in case
[09:52] <ElectroMotive> but no problem with the tip
[09:52] <Tanvir> ElectroMotive, I don't have a backup of my home folder, but is that necessary?
[09:53] <Tanvir> I thought things would be kept.
[09:53] <ruicruz> dkessel i see that the package is installed, but my app still requires the "old" (ubuntu 15) name of the package. do you know any way I can solve this?
[09:54] <ElectroMotive> well like rp2 said depending on if you have 3rd party PPAs then it may just fail but if everything seems ok i would not worry
[09:54] <Tanvir> On that note, would it be okay to backup the necessary files in some other partition?
[09:54] <l0gic> hi. i am having issues getting my yubikey to be detected as a smartcard on 14.04. the yubikey-personalisation-gui detectes the key, but not as a smartcard. i installed opensc, and pcscd. it works on a non-ubuntu linux. any suggestions
[09:55] <noelia> I'm having some troubles with Ubuntu 16.04 and the Realtek RTL8188EE Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01)
[09:56] <hateball> noelia: Sadly that is the case with most realtek chipsets, the driver support is atrocious
[09:57] <noelia> hateball Should I try ndiswrapper?
[09:57] <ElectroMotive> akhil, its rude to PM without an invite
[09:57] <hateball> noelia: I don't really have any other suggestion than to buy a well supported chipset to replace it with
[09:57] <ElectroMotive> most people if they know the answer to your question will try to help if they can
[09:58] <hateball> noelia: At least that's the only reliable solution I've used
[09:58] <noelia> hateball Thank you very much
[09:58] <ElectroMotive> i will try to help whoever i can but sometime people have their own problems they are trying to solve as well
[09:58] <hateball> noelia: That said, it's perhaps possible to get it working. I just... didnt find it worth the anger
[09:59] <ElectroMotive> maybe ask again with a better description of the actual problem
[09:59] <hateball> noelia: Intel and Broadcom chipsets work well in my experience
[10:01] <Guido1> I want to print on a printer conected to an XP home computer, but I have to enter a username and pasword. If I want to acces a shared folder I just get the message that I'm not autorised.
[10:02] <firman> Hay, I'm using intel hd graphic, I was experience freeze so many time's I trying to install the driver from 01.org and then the driver software tell that my distro is not supported, iam on ubuntu 15.10 64bit, some body have suggestion to fix it?
[10:03] <ElectroMotive> what is 01.org
[10:03] <ElectroMotive> that does not sound official at all
[10:04] <noelia> hateball I'll try one of those :)
[10:05] <OerHeks> firman, that driversite is not official supported here, intel driver is standard available
[10:06] <noelia> By the way, how can I remove Ubuntu's default network manager and replace it with Wicd?
[10:06] <ElectroMotive> noelia, the latestkernel version may be looking for signed derivers
[10:06] <ElectroMotive> drivers*
[10:06] <firman> okay, then how to fix my problem, its freezing to often, even when i just browsing with firefox, watching video's and other
[10:07] <firman> OerHeks
[10:08] <OerHeks> intel is no racemonster but, depending on the intel chipset, you should be able to play youtube fine.
[10:08] <ElectroMotive> noelia, someone that had the same problem was able to solve it by disabling secure boot in the bios
[10:08] <noelia> ElectroMotive I'm going to try that, then. Thank you :)
[10:09] <ElectroMotive> yup
[10:13] <firman> In the middle of streaming on youtube, its crash and nothing i can do when thats momens coming
[10:13] <firman> except push the power button
[10:13] <EriC^^> firman: segfault
[10:14] <firman> Eric^^ i'm sorry??
[10:14] <firman> EriC^^
[10:16] <EriC^^> firman: it's probably a segfault
[10:17] <EriC^^> happens sometimes, try to update the browser/flash or maybe try using html5
[10:20] <blanko> how to fix this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1381175
[10:20] <blanko> step by step please
[10:20] <blanko> thanks
[10:21] <cfhowlett> blanko, as noted, it's an unfixed bug.  feel free to hack a fix and submit.
[10:22] <blanko> Some people say that fixed by patch
[10:23] <cfhowlett> "some people"?  are those people or fix noted on the bug report??
[10:23] <blanko> but i don't now how to install patch
[10:23] <blanko> i don't know
[10:23] <blanko> see patch
[10:23] <blanko> http://pastebin.com/wpmFi38k
[10:24] <cfhowlett> the patch was for 14.10 which you should NOT be using
[10:24] <blanko> i used 16.04
[10:25] <cfhowlett> good.  the bug is expired so will not be fixed for 14.10.  If you report and open a new bug, it *might* get fixed.  seems to be a low priority issue though
[10:26] <ElectroMotive> blanko, which graphics card?
[10:26] <AGE_KILLER> Hi Guys
[10:27] <blanko> cfhowlett ok thanks for help
[10:27] <blanko> ElectroMotive nvidia gtx 950m
[10:27] <cfhowlett> little help it was, but best of luck, blanko
[10:28] <ElectroMotive> are you using the driver from nvidia?
[10:28] <serverboy> hello
[10:28] <blanko> cfhowlett thanks :)
[10:28] <blanko> ElectroMotive Yes
[10:29] <firman> EriC^^ i dont get it
[10:29] <blanko> ElectroMotive  driver nvidia-358
[10:30] <serverboy> pls help me. i want to check if someone is connected to port 80 of my ubuntu sserver
[10:31] <Wulf> serverboy: netstat
[10:31] <ElectroMotive> netstat | grep :80
[10:32] <EriC^^> serverboy: or sudo lsof -i :80
[10:33] <anomaly44> any idea why i cant install anything by clicking
[10:33] <serverboy> thnks guys
[10:33] <anomaly44> when i click install, it says 'installing' for 2 sec, and then 'install' again
[10:33] <cfhowlett> anomaly44, shut down software center.  try installation via command line.  note error messages
[10:36] <serverboy> what is command to to request dhcp in ubuntu
[10:37] <Wulf> serverboy: dhclient
[10:38] <anomaly44> cfhowlett, dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of megasync:
[10:38] <anomaly44>  megasync depends on libc-ares2 (>= 1.7.4); however:
[10:38] <anomaly44>   Package libc-ares2 is not installed.
[10:38] <anomaly44>  megasync depends on libcrypto++9v5; however:
[10:38] <anomaly44>   Package libcrypto++9v5 is not installed.
[10:38] <anomaly44> however, i cant install those packages either
[10:39] <serverboy> Wulf:thanks
[10:39] <cfhowlett> anomaly44, there it is.   temporarily disable your megsync entry (assuming it's a ppa here) then update,
[10:40] <anomaly44> cfhowlett, how do i do that?
[10:40] <cfhowlett> anomaly44, first let's find it: in the terminal ...       cat /etc/apt/sources.list | grep megasync | pastebinit
[10:43] <anomaly44> cant install pastebinit
[10:43] <anomaly44> same problem
[10:43] <cfhowlett> anomaly44, first let's find it: in the terminal ...       cat /etc/apt/sources.list | grep megasync | nc termbin.com 9999
[10:44] <anomaly44> Use netcat.
[10:44] <anomaly44> netcat doesnt work either :|
[10:44] <serverboy> what is the command to list all installed packages?
[10:44] <cfhowlett> anomaly44, first let's find it: in the terminal ...       cat /etc/apt/sources.list | grep megasync
[10:44] <cfhowlett> serverboy, dpkg -l
[10:45] <serverboy> cfhowlett:thanks
[10:45] <cfhowlett> happy2help! serverboy
[10:45] <francoisbabeuf_> Simple video slideshow software for ubuntu?
[10:45] <n1md4> hi.  i have sound issues with my laptop.  the laptop speakers work, as does the headphone jack.  but if i boot without the headphones connected, and instead connect when booted, the sound does not come through the headphones.... ideas?
[10:45] <anomaly44> cfhowlett, no output
[10:45] <anomaly44> cd -
[10:45] <cfhowlett> anomaly44, so it's not in a ppa.  wait 1
[10:47] <hateball> francoisbabeuf_: OpenShot
[10:48] <cfhowlett> anomaly44, per the megasync site:  Note that at least on Ubuntu, after installing MEGAsync, the MEGA repository is added automatically (so you should receive automatic MEGAsync updates).
[10:48] <serverboy> what is command to find package with name
[10:48] <cfhowlett> serverboy, apt-cache policy packagename
[10:49] <serverboy> cfhowlett:thanks
[10:49] <cfhowlett> happy2help! serverboy
[10:50] <anomaly44> when i use software updater, i get package system is broken
[10:50] <LibertyWeNeed> have you tried synaptic package manager?
[10:50] <LibertyWeNeed> to fix broken packeges?
[10:50] <riggeedeve> helo huys
[10:50] <OerHeks> anomaly44, on what ubuntu version?
[10:50] <riggeedeve> hello guys
[10:50] <anomaly44> 16.04
[10:50] <riggeedeve> do you like ubuntu or arch more
[10:50] <riggeedeve> wat dod u tin of arch
[10:51] <anomaly44> no LibertyWeNeed dont know how
[10:51] <riggeedeve> does anyone know how to install a server
[10:51] <OerHeks> riggeedeve, wrong channel for polling, what do you expect for an answer in th official ubuntu support channel?
[10:51] <cfhowlett> riggeedeve, ubuntu.  (duh)
[10:51] <riggeedeve> i wat to activate it, after installing apache
[10:51] <hateball> s/polling/trolling/
[10:51] <cfhowlett> riggeedeve, go away.  go to arch.
[10:51] <riggeedeve> to make it available on the ner
[10:51] <riggeedeve> on the net
[10:52] <riggeedeve> i am on ubuntu!!
[10:52] <serverboy> what is the command to list dependencies for package?
[10:52] <OerHeks> riggeedeve, read the server guide, good start
[10:52] <LibertyWeNeed> anomaly44, search for Synaptic Package Manager on your computer
[10:52] <riggeedeve> server guide
[10:52] <riggeedeve> which?
[10:52] <riggeedeve>  where?
[10:52] <LibertyWeNeed> if you don't have it you may need to install it.
[10:52] <cfhowlett> riggeedeve, on the (slim) chance that you are merely lost, this channel does not support arch.  ask arch for support.
[10:52] <riggeedeve>  iinstalled it
[10:52] <anomaly44> cant find it LibertyWeNeed
[10:52] <OerHeks> serverboy, apt-cache rdepends packagename should do what you want
[10:52] <hateball> serverboy: apt-cache show <package>, will show depends
[10:53] <LibertyWeNeed> anomaly44, are you able to open the ubuntu software center?
[10:53] <serverboy> thanks
[10:53] <riggeedeve> cfhowlett, silly numb, i am on ubutu, who said i am on arch
[10:53] <riggeedeve> above all i am on linux
[10:53] <riggeedeve> they are all the same
[10:54] <cfhowlett> false.  and misleading.  your troll colors are showing.
[10:54] <anomaly44> yes LibertyWeNeed  but cant install the package manager either
[10:54] <anomaly44> weird thing is, is that this is almost a fresh install
[10:54] <anomaly44> only installed node and postgres
[10:55] <riggeedeve> ww
[10:55] <riggeedeve> hey ubuntu noobs
[10:55] <riggeedeve> what are your questions?
[10:55] <riggeedeve> i can answer them all
[10:55] <erchache2000> I upgrade from 15.04 to 16.04 and nows apt-get doesn't run properly
[10:55] <riggeedeve>  for free
[10:55] <LibertyWeNeed> anomaly44, have you tried using terminal?
[10:55] <anomaly44> for what?
[10:55] <erchache2000> W: Error de GPG: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial InRelease: No se pudo ejecutar «apt-key»  para verificar la firma (¿está instalado gnupg?)
[10:56] <erchache2000> how I can refresh gpg keys?
[10:56] <anomaly44> i m gonna try restarting
[10:56] <anomaly44> hope i can install when i get back
[10:56] <OerHeks> erchache2000, maybe your mirror is not up2date, change to (main)  and try again
[10:57] <l0gic> hi, i asked before, but didn't get an answer (not even "nope, can't help you"): my yubikey isn't detected as a smartcard on 14.04. on other distributions it is. i installed pcscd, and opensc. opensc-tool -l only detects the laptops internal card reader. any advice?
[10:57] <OerHeks> erchache2000, seen this before, not a key issue, just out-of-sync
[10:57] <serverboy> where is the kernel path located in ubuntu?
[10:57] <l0gic> the yubikey itself is detected, and i can configure it with yubikey-personalization-gui
[10:57] <LibertyWeNeed> Does Canonical have any Keynote Presentations when they announce their new upgrade to their Distro?
[10:58] <ubuntu1604> Hello, wget won't download due to a read only .bin file. Is it safe to scp the.bin file to Ubuntu and install?
[10:58] <erchache2000> OerHeks: only happs on this machine
[10:58] <cfhowlett> LibertyWeNeed, if so, it would be on the canonical or ubuntu youtube
[10:58] <erchache2000> I upgrade other two before withtout this problem
[10:58] <erchache2000> too strange, very first time :-(
[10:58] <anomaly44> ok so i cant seem to install anything
[10:59] <LibertyWeNeed> anomaly44, I think the best thing to do is a clean install
[10:59] <LibertyWeNeed> anomaly44, have you got a back up?
[11:00] <anomaly44> damn
[11:00] <anomaly44> have a home partition
[11:00] <anomaly44> so it's manageable
[11:00] <cfhowlett> anomaly44, a /home is not the same as a backup.  just sayin ...
[11:01] <riggeedeve> hy ubuntu noobs
[11:01] <riggeedeve> i use arch
[11:01] <cfhowlett> !ops | riggeedeve
[11:01] <riggeedeve> i am a power user
[11:01] <riggeedeve> u r just a noob
[11:02] <riggeedeve> ubuntu noobs
[11:02] <cfhowlett> a power user would be doing actual power user work, not being a power troll.
[11:03] <l0gic> a power user would help me with my yubikey issue :P
[11:04] <serverboy> hello pls help what is update.rc used for?
[11:05] <Cloudblow> how can i solve this error from apt-get update ? http://pastebin.com/raw/v4k6FVvK
[11:06] <iu8293o> hi geeks
[11:06] <iu8293o> i am having some problem cfhowlett
[11:06] <cfhowlett> !guidelines | yes, you are rude.  stop.
[11:08] <iu8293o> cfhowlett, could you identify somehow if they are behind a VPN?
[11:08] <OerHeks> Cloudblow, seems to be a known issue > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/1558331
[11:08] <iu8293o> if they changed their username
[11:08] <iu8293o> ubottu, could u?
[11:08] <iu8293o> ok
[11:08] <cfhowlett> surely, a super user would know the answer to such a question, iu8293o.  but proceed ...
[11:09] <iu8293o> cfhowlett, ok how
[11:09] <Cloudblow> OerHeks: oh, this is a bug from apt and is it not from google sha1 key?
[11:10] <OerHeks> Cloudblow, more debian info https://wiki.debian.org/Teams/Apt/Sha1Removal
[11:10] <cfhowlett> iu8293o, this channel is for ubuntu support.  please stay on topic or ask #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:10] <OerHeks> sha1 is depreciated
[11:11] <Cloudblow> OerHeks: i know low security from sha1, I though google repos are up to date with hashing algoritm...
[11:13] <ernstp> If i've booted as "single" user on 16.04, how do I start networking?
[11:13] <OerHeks> Cloudblow, i don't encounter that issue, are you on 32 bit?
[11:13] <Cloudblow> OerHeks: nope, amd64
[11:13] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:14] <hateball> Cloudblow: are you on 15.10 or 16.04?
[11:14] <Cloudblow> hateball: 16.04
[11:15] <hateball> Cloudblow: I see. Well as you can see the top three only gives warnings, so you could disable the musicmanager list and wait til that gets sorted
[11:15] <zoolandeR3> What are the best general Linux OS and bash books available? Can someone recommend something?
[11:16] <dksmw> !utopic
[11:16] <cfhowlett> zoolandeR3, http://www.linuxlinks.com/article/20090405061458383/20oftheBestFreeLinuxBooks-Part1.html
[11:21] <pbeshay> Hello
[11:21] <pbeshay> I am looking for a simple inventory management software
[11:25] <sooraj> i need a data recovery software for ubuntu
[11:25] <cfhowlett> !recovery
[11:25] <cfhowlett> eek.  not that one sooraj
[11:25] <Cloudblow> hateball: OerHeks : thanks for help!
[11:26] <OerHeks> !testdisk
[11:26] <sooraj> how to install testdisk?
[11:26] <OerHeks> http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Step_By_Step
[11:26] <sooraj> i tried downloading tar.bz2 file
[11:27] <OerHeks> i would use the live iso, http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Livecd
[11:27] <OerHeks> or ubuntu live mode and installing it in the live environment
[11:27] <dksmw> linux users are unlikely to have any inventory
[11:28] <sooraj> there is no another software than testdisk?
[11:28] <anomaly44> so i reinstalled, tried to install megasync by running sudo dpkg -i megasync-xUbuntu_16.04_amd64.deb
[11:29] <anomaly44> and my package manager is broken again
[11:29] <anomaly44> was able to install hexchat, tried to install megasync
[11:30] <LibertyWeNeed> hmm…
[11:30] <LibertyWeNeed> not sure
[11:30] <de-facto> anomaly44 run "sudo apt-get -f install"
[11:30] <dreamer> eh, I just upgraded to 16.04 .. and now all my terminals give some dumb message about "man sudo_root"
[11:30] <dreamer> how do I get rid of this?
[11:30] <p0ff3> Is there a way to make my workspaces "wrap around"? So that they loop
[11:31] <anomaly44> done de-facto
[11:32] <llutz> dreamer "touch ~/.sudo_as_admin_successful"
[11:33] <anomaly44> de-facto, i can install other stuff again
[11:34] <anomaly44> but how do i fix the megasync install?
[11:34] <dreamer> llutz: wow, that is .. wow.
[11:34] <ksx4system> what could cause iwlwifi driver to connect at extremely low bitrate (like 1 or 2mbps) to 802.11n networks?
[11:34] <de-facto> anomaly44 background is: if you install a .deb via dpkg -i  ... it does not resolve dependencies, hence you are left with broken dependencies. apt can fix that possibly. if you are looking for a nice and simple gui way i can recommend to install gdebi it can be choosen as default app for opening .deb files (when you double click) and resolves dependencies
[11:34] <dreamer> llutz: who thought this was a good idea?
[11:34] <cfhowlett> anomaly44, ask megasync.  pretty sure you are not alone.
[11:34] <llutz> dreamer: don't ask me....
[11:34] <dreamer> llutz: and where is this behaviour documented?
[11:34] <dreamer> (honestly, this is moronic)
[11:35] <anomaly44> ok thx de-facto, cfhowlett
[11:35] <billydaz> hi
[11:36] <billydaz> how do get to delete every occurence of a particular name on my system
[11:36] <llutz> dreamer: check /etc/bash.bashrc, idk who added this nonsense but it's there since a while
[11:36] <billydaz> say for instance openvas
[11:36] <billydaz> I want to remove the folders
[11:36] <de-facto> anomaly44 the "sudo apt-get -f install" tries to fix broken dependencies
[11:37] <Lope> is there any reason that I can't install a linux 4.x kernel on ubuntu 14.04?
[11:37] <Wulf> Lope: no
[11:38] <raz> how do i enable direct root ssh login?  all the guides are wrong (they want me to set 'PermitRootLogin yes' which enables passwords, which i don't want).
[11:38] <dreamer> llutz: ok, I'll just delete/comment that part. I don't want to have some mandatory file in my home-dir
[11:38] <Wulf> raz: what behaviour do you want?
[11:38] <dreamer> llutz: and so other than here it's not documented anywhere?
[11:38] <raz> Wulf: normal ssh behavior, root login with key authentication
[11:38] <Nilesh_> how to restore all the symlink in /ust?
[11:38] <Nilesh_> */usr?
[11:38] <Wulf> raz: okay, man sshd_config, read about PermitRootLogin
[11:38] <hateball> billydaz: in that case: "find / -name openvas -delete". Be very careful.
[11:39] <anomaly44> cool with gdebi it worked
[11:39] <billydaz> Nilesh_: chattr
[11:39] <Nilesh_> billydaz: ?
[11:39] <raz> Wulf: i have. this is not about sshd_config but about the pam garbage that some utterly confused person at ubuntu hacked in.
[11:39] <bertthegreat>  all
[11:39] <billydaz> Nilesh_:
[11:39] <bertthegreat> Hi all !
[11:39] <billydaz> yea I saw your msg
[11:39] <raz> Wulf: PermitRootLogin no-password is exactly what i want, i just need to remove the ubuntu sabotage
[11:40] <billydaz> just considering if I want to go that route
[11:40] <Wulf> raz: check ~root/.ssh/authorized_keys too
[11:40] <Wulf> raz: there is no other default nonsense in ubuntu
[11:40] <raz> Wulf: i have. i'm pretty sure the "please login as ubuntu"-crap is hooked in via pam.
[11:40] <raz> i just can't find where
[11:40] <Wulf> raz: that's usually configured in authorized_keys
[11:41] <raz> Wulf: not here. authorized_keys contains just my vanilla key, no options on it
[11:41] <Wulf> raz: double and triple check that.
[11:41] <raz> Wulf: ...
[11:41] <raz> i can read, thanks
[11:42] <Wulf> raz: and people make silly mistakes
[11:42] <raz> yes, like adding this security compromising garbage to a mainline distro
[11:42] <raz> it is not in authorized_keys and not in in the sshd config
[11:43] <Wulf> raz: are you really really sure you checked ~root/.ssh/authorized_keys, not another?
[11:43] <billydaz> hateball: how to I insert the recursive key to delete directories
[11:43] <raz> Wulf: yes
[11:43] <Wulf> raz: type in the command, paste a dump of your terminal. Please.
[11:44] <Wulf> raz: and also the output of the ssh command you use
[11:44] <raz> Wulf: oh f**** this sudo crap. you were right. whoami = root ... echo $HOME = /home/ubuntu
[11:44] <Wulf> haha ;-)
[11:45]  * raz screams
[11:45] <raz> i hope the person who came up with that idea dies a painful death
[11:46] <hateball> billydaz: then you'll want to use find with -exec
[11:47] <akik> raz: what sudo command did you run?
[11:47] <Wulf> akik: probably just sudo -s
[11:47] <raz> akik: sudo bash
[11:47] <raz> anyway, it's fixed now, for this host...
[11:47] <akik> raz: ok sudo -i or sudo su - fixes that problem
[11:48] <Wulf> When I say what I think about sudo, I'm sure that someone will ask the bot to tell me about !language again...
[11:48] <raz> there's no `su -` for the sudoers crap...
[11:48] <raz> forcing people to deal with passwords, in 2016, is so brain damaged, it makes me want to torture someone
[11:48] <akik> raz: all commands are available for the user account you created during the install
[11:48] <Wulf> sudo is the Donald Trump of all tools
[11:49] <raz> akik: it is wrong. it is broken. i don't even want to talk about it. if you have a say in ubuntu then remove this crap immediately.
[11:49] <akik> raz: what is wrong?
[11:49] <raz> akik: sudo
[11:49] <akik> raz: you have to be more specific
[11:50] <Wulf> akik: sudo is a braindead, broken, annoying idea
[11:50] <raz> forcing ubuntu users to login as non-root is braindead, broken and dangerous.
[11:50] <akik> if you want to get a root shell, use sudo -i or sudo su -
[11:50] <Wulf> akik: the only proper use case is if you want a specific user to run a *specific* command as another user
[11:50] <asdhbavfhbaf> hi all
[11:50] <cfhowlett> raz, you feel strongly about this.  fine.  less ranting in the volunteer channel and file it as a bug report if you expect any action.
[11:50] <raz> akik: i should never have to do that. it does not add security, it removes security.
[11:51] <serverboy> hi geek
[11:51] <raz> cfhowlett: i'm not expecting any action, this has been debated before, the brain rot is strong in ubuntu steering..
[11:51] <asdhbavfhbaf> someone can help me with an audio trouble?
[11:51] <serverboy> waht is the command to list all tty devices?
[11:51] <bazhang> raz lets take this to #ubuntu-discuss please
[11:51] <Wulf> serverboy: ls /dev/tty*
[11:51] <raz> bazhang: np, i'm already quiet, /rant ;)
[11:51] <serverboy> Wulf:thanks
[11:51] <bazhang> raz you can file a wishlist bug if you so desire
[11:52] <Wulf> bazhang: it's pointless
[11:52] <raz> bazhang: i can just as well file a lottery ticket
[11:52] <|ZNC|GiantVorap> Is this channel only for questions about ubuntu?
[11:52] <raz> the latter has more upside potential :)
[11:52] <cfhowlett> |ZNC|GiantVorap, ubuntu support is the topic
[11:52] <asdhbavfhbaf> I can't listen the sound ....
[11:52] <bazhang> |ZNC|GiantVorap, general linux questions in ##linux
[11:53] <asdhbavfhbaf> Can you help me?
[11:53] <bazhang> need more info asdhbavfhbaf
[11:53] <asdhbavfhbaf> ok
[11:56] <p0ff3> Is there a way to make my workspaces "wrap around"? So that they loop left-right?
[11:57] <bazhang> p0ff3, with gnome shell there is
[11:57] <Myrtti> and with Compiz Config
[11:58] <bazhang> p0ff3, if you check the gnome extensions site, you can add coverflow via alt tab, and other such actions
[11:58] <akik> raz: i read about your root ssh login. the keyword that you want is without-password
[11:58] <asdhbavfhbaf> usually on winxp i had realtek audio drivers, but now if i try to do
[11:58] <raz> akik: yes, that's in there by default. the sabotage was actually in the authorized_keys file, like Wulf correctly pointed out
 I don't listen any sound, but if i try cat /proc/asound/modules I see 1 saa7134_alsa
[11:59] <lerner>  every time I use sysinfo it crashes: CLI output: https://paste.ubuntu.com/16062236/
[11:59] <lerner> 16.04 64 bits
[11:59] <asdhbavfhbaf> mmm
[11:59] <akik> i don't think it's there by default for PermitRootLogin, at least in ubuntu
[12:00] <anomaly44> No command 'deb' found, did you mean:
[12:01] <anomaly44> what do i need?
[12:02] <akik> anomaly44: wild guess, dpkg?
[12:04] <Myrtti> p0ff3: if you install CompizConfig manager and want to rotate through the workspaces in Unity that Ubuntu comes with, the setting is in "Desktop Wall"
[12:04] <vijaikumar> is there a way to enable indirect glx rendering in ubuntu without doing it directly in /usr/share/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/50-xserver-command.conf with a +iglx flag ?
[12:04] <Myrtti> "Viewport Switching" --> "Allow wrap-around"
[12:11] <yogg> hi
[12:16] <lerner> hi
[12:17] <lerner> hii logged in before and pasted a link to my sysinfo cli problem. Can you please paste it ain? oddly it is nowhere in my logs to be seen
[12:17] <lerner> again
[12:18] <bazhang> !1984 | lerner have a search
  every time I use sysinfo it crashes: CLI output: https://paste.ubuntu.com/16062236/
[12:18] <lerner> thx trijntje
[12:20] <Qwertie> Im logged into the root an ubuntu server with an ssh key. Is there any way I can copy the key to another user so I can use it there too?
[12:21] <lerner> is this the log for this channel? 	#ubuntu+1.txt
[12:21] <teward|ubuntu> lerner: no
[12:21] <somsip> !logs | lerner
[12:21] <teward|ubuntu> Qwertie: get the public key line out of the ~/.ssh/authorized_keys file for root and put that info onto another user?
[12:21] <lerner> i dont find only a "ubuntu"
[12:21] <somsip> lerner: look closer - at the bottom
[12:22] <teward|ubuntu> lerner: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2016/04/26/%23ubuntu.txt <-- it's there
[12:22] <lerner> a, found it, should it be on top?
[12:22] <lerner> shouldn't*
[12:22] <cfhowlett> sorted by time stampo
[12:22] <krishna_> hi
[12:22] <lerner> aaaaa...
[12:23] <lerner> ok
[12:23] <krishna_> how are you doing?
[12:23] <lerner> can yo help me with the mentioned sysinfo crash?
[12:25] <lotuspsychje> !info inxi | lerner a nice sysinfo package as alternative
[12:26] <lerner> lotuspsychje, is sysinfo not maintained anymore?
[12:26] <lotuspsychje> !info sysinfo
[12:26] <lotuspsychje> lerner: should be
[12:26] <lerner> lotuspsychje, and what can trigger this behaviour?
[12:28] <lotuspsychje> lerner: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1606581.html
[12:28] <Kugi> Chatter :)
[12:28] <lotuspsychje> lerner: wich ubuntu version did you have?
[12:31] <lerner> 16.04
[12:31] <lerner> but now I see inxi is all cli, which should be faster
[12:31] <ck_mfc> Hey, anyone else having problems with the nvidia drivers and Ubuntu 16.04 ? I just did an upgrade... And cant login
[12:31] <phpcoder> hello guys, i am using ubuntu 16.04 and i have a problem with apparmor....
[12:31] <phpcoder> it is blocking mariadb, i get this error:
[12:31] <phpcoder> Apr 26 14:26:02 damiano kernel: [ 1602.657851] audit: type=1400 audit(1461673562.983:33): apparmor="DENIED" operation="sendmsg" profile="/usr/sbin/mysqld" name="/run/systemd/notify" pid=4222 comm="mysqld$
[12:31] <phpcoder> https://nopaste.me/view/becbf5eb#L21
[12:32] <asar> wow ubuntu 16.04 is so smooth
[12:32] <asar> no lagging on my vm
[12:32] <lotuspsychje> ck_mfc: card chipset and driver loaded?
[12:33] <lerner> sudo apt-get uninstall sysinfo < should work...
[12:34] <lerner> ?
[12:34] <bazhang> lerner, no
[12:34] <lerner> sudo apt-get remove sysinfo < should work...
[12:34] <bazhang> what did you try so far lerner
[12:34] <lerner> bazhang, nothing
[12:37] <lotuspsychje> lerner: you just found a bug on sysinfo, just tested it also, same crash
[12:37] <phpcoder> someone could help me with apparmor?
[12:37] <lerner> \o/
[12:38] <lotuspsychje> !bug | lerner
[12:38] <lotuspsychje> lerner: if you make the bug, ill add me affected aswell
[12:38] <lerner> what? I do have to work?
[12:38] <lotuspsychje> lerner: if you wanna help the community
[12:39] <lerner> I just executed ubuntu-bug sysinfo on a cli
[12:39] <lotuspsychje> lerner: correct :p
[12:39] <serverboy> where is the file kernel located?
[12:40] <lerner> jesus christ, not again the loggin in
[12:40] <lotuspsychje> lerner: its only launchpad, no big deal
[12:41] <lerner> lotuspsychje, https://login.launchpad.net/KjpeL61RSoxGqQYX/+decide returns Invalid OpenID transaction
[12:41] <ronator> hi! where can I suggest release names? The page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DevelopmentCodeNames says, I could iz right there, but the page is immutable. looks like a typical canonical paradoxon ..
[12:41] <lerner> must I log in?
[12:41] <lotuspsychje> lerner: register at launchpad, make yourself a nice login
[12:42] <lerner> lotuspsychje, cant I print my output, send it to you, you log in?
[12:42] <lotuspsychje> !contribute | ronator here perhaps?
[12:42] <cfhowlett> ronator, sorry but release names are selected by the SABDFL
[12:42] <lotuspsychje> lerner: its better you register once, otherwise you wont be able to set 'im affected' to this bug
[12:42] <ronator> what a pity. then maybe one should up
[12:43] <ronator> update the info on the page i sent
[12:43] <ronator> and i did not mean selection i meant suggestion
[12:44] <ronator> I'll follow the contrib link thx
[12:48] <TenLeftFingers> Tesing new IRC app on Ubuntu phone.
[12:48] <de-facto> TenLeftFingers works :)
[12:49] <auronandace> TenLeftFingers: may your tests prove successful
[12:50] <rossso> Hello. Suppose there are some debian packages which store their stuff in /var/lib/somename  Now someone does rm -rf /var/lib/somename  How do we know which debian packages have been damaged and reinstall them?
[12:50] <ronator> man apt-get or --fix-missing
[12:51] <ronator> --fix-broken
[12:51] <geudrik> ^ beat me to it
[12:51] <rossso> oh, it seems I needed debsums --changed
[12:52] <de-facto> rossso maybe apt-file?
[12:52] <lotuspsychje> lerner: you get it working?
[12:52] <lerner> lotuspsychje, i need an email provider
[12:53] <geudrik> rossso: # apt-get update --fix-missing; dpkg --configure -a; apt-get install -f
[12:53] <geudrik> something akin to that
[12:55] <rossso> thanks everyone! the final command looks like dpkg --get-selections  | cut -f 1 | grep somename | sudo xargs debsums | grep -v OK
[12:55] <sam_yan> when run the instance of "_syscall" of man sheet,it tells "error: unknown type name ‘sysinfo’"
[12:55] <effectnet> hi what can i use to delete all the partitions from boot?
[12:56] <geudrik> # dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/sd#
[12:56] <lotuspsychje> effectnet: can you tel us the whole story? what are you trying to do
[12:56] <geudrik> or your favorite partition editor, of course
[12:56] <eoli3n> Hi, i want to find a way to do that thing -> xfce4-terminal -T "appname" -e 'source /path/to/script ; bash'
[12:56] <effectnet> hi lotuspsychje :P
[12:56] <eoli3n> but it failed, saying that source dont work
[12:56] <eoli3n> the script is right
[12:57] <effectnet> gosh i cannot get ubuntu to install on this laptop
[12:57] <eoli3n> and if i replace xfce4-terminal with xterm, it works
[12:57] <lotuspsychje> effectnet: wich laptop and wich ubuntu version?
[12:57] <effectnet> it has problems, this laptop, and i wanted to try deleting the partitions
[12:57] <de-facto> rossso you can alsu use dpkg -S /var/lib/<packagename>
[12:57] <effectnet> it's an asus laptop, and ubuntu 14.04 i think it is
[12:57] <lotuspsychje> effectnet: single boot or dualboot? uefi machine?
[12:57] <geudrik> So has anyone purchased the Meizu PRO yet? Curious on first-hand thoughts on it
[12:58] <lotuspsychje> !touch | geudrik
[12:58] <effectnet> i'll take anything, trying to do single right now.  i do see uefi options in the bios.
[12:58] <geudrik> cheers, lotuspsychje
[12:58] <lotuspsychje> effectnet: ok you need to disabel secureboot and fastboot to install ubuntu
[12:58] <effectnet> ok i did find the secureboot and that is off.  i never found a fastboot.
[12:59] <effectnet> the windows partition/installation is trashed, so i can't get into the windows
[12:59] <lerner> lotuspsychje, so, why must you insist in making it stupidly burdensome for any regular user to create an account?
[12:59] <lotuspsychje> effectnet: check your bios again, it must be somewhere
[13:00] <effectnet> hmm ok, i will then.  i'm gonna wait for current operation to do something.
[13:00] <effectnet> or not do something heh
[13:00] <lotuspsychje> lerner: i never pushed you mate, just trying to convince you its important to bug for the community
[13:00] <lotuspsychje> !uefi > effectnet
[13:00] <lotuspsychje> lerner: next person that installs sysinfo, might got it working because of your bug...
[13:02] <effectnet> ah k
[13:02] <lerner> lotuspsychje, i didnt mean you personally
[13:02] <zetheroo> I am having difficulty installing 3rd party debs using the default Ubuntu software installer
[13:02] <zetheroo> one of the debs is Google Chrome browser
[13:03] <lotuspsychje> lerner: i dont feel targeted, dont worry :p
[13:03] <cfhowlett> zetheroo, yep that came up a couple of times today.  last guy used gdebi as a workaround
[13:03] <lotuspsychje> lerner: make a fake gmail or so specially for bugs if you want to stay anon...ill update the bug report you make
[13:04] <zetheroo> cfhowlett: ok thanks
[13:04] <cfhowlett> happy2help! zetheroo
[13:07] <effectnet> so yeah, i guess i do want to look at the partitions from boot though.
[13:07] <effectnet> what program would i use for that?
[13:07] <effectnet> and also erase the partitions
[13:08] <mortenm> I have a question if anyone can help me regarding software for chineese symbols in open office or libre writer.. I have this text that is currently translated by chineese person into symbols... But the symbols got saved in a bnp immage file... How can I/ is there a way to make the transission into a word document so i can format symbol size and layout... I tried font manager but it did not seem to have any of the tools for doing this... Any
[13:08] <mortenm>  sugestions...?
[13:08] <lotuspsychje> effectnet: ubuntu setup can erase/format the partitions
[13:09] <effectnet> there is some kind of partition problem
[13:09] <ChloeWolfieGirl> Using chatter on the Ubuntu Phone, Nice :3
[13:11] <effectnet> oh i got in!
[13:12] <effectnet> geez i dont remember this stuff, i dunno how many partitions to make, etc
[13:12] <lotuspsychje> effectnet: ubuntu setup can make auto partitions for you
[13:13] <effectnet> thank you.  i don't want to do that though, i must forge ahead now that i am in here, the partitioning tool
[13:13] <lotuspsychje> !partitioning | effectnet
[13:13] <effectnet> nice
[13:13] <effectnet> oops 404 not found
[13:14] <lotuspsychje> effectnet: tnx for notice, ill report
[13:14] <lerner> lotuspsychje, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sysinfo/+bug/1575182
[13:14] <Chrisi_> Hai
[13:15] <jia> nishi
[13:15] <jia> hello
[13:15] <topirate> hey i am new to linux
[13:15] <lotuspsychje> lerner: thank you for taking your time, ill add me as affected
[13:15] <jia> who are you
[13:16] <jia> I come from china
[13:16] <topirate> and i have started to use ubuntu 14.04 from last three months
[13:16] <lotuspsychje> topirate: you joined the ubuntu support channel, you can ask ubuntu questions here
[13:16] <cfhowlett> jia, this is a tech support channel.  socialize on qq not here
[13:17] <topirate> can i upgrade to 16. which is being recently launched i guess
[13:17] <cfhowlett> topi`, you can but should not
[13:17] <BluesKaj> !16.04
[13:17] <cfhowlett> wait until 16.04.1 in October
[13:18] <BluesKaj> topirate, is this a work computer?
[13:18] <topirate> do i need to download the iso file again
[13:18] <topirate> BluesKaj: i din get you
[13:19] <topirate> well its for personal
[13:19] <topirate> use
[13:20] <BluesKaj> not on a workpolace network etc
[13:20] <BluesKaj> place
[13:20] <effectnet> hmmm the partitioning failed
[13:21] <topirate> yeah it is but not always
[13:21] <topirate> why??? BluesKaj
[13:21] <topirate> BluesKaj: do i need to download the iso file again
[13:22] <zetheroo> did something change in the way that services are restarted? In 14.04 I was able to do ' service snmpd restart  ' but in 16.04 there doesn't seem to be an snmpd service !?
[13:23] <BluesKaj> in case you have bugs that become a problem, topirate ...you can upgarde via the internet or do a clen install using an iso
[13:23] <topirate> k thanks BluesKaj
[13:23] <BluesKaj> scuse the typos
[13:23] <hateball> zetheroo: systemd happened
[13:24] <lotuspsychje> lerner: updated your bug
[13:24] <hateball> zetheroo: I am merely guessing here, but perhaps sudo systemctl restart snmpd.service
[13:24] <TheFocus> #conky
[13:24] <lotuspsychje> lerner: tnx again for taking your time
[13:24] <zetheroo> hateball: ok will try
[13:24] <lerner> lotuspsychje, do you get paid?
[13:25] <zetheroo> Failed to restart snmpd.service: Unit snmpd.service not found.
[13:25] <zetheroo> oh well ..
[13:25] <lotuspsychje> lerner: no why?
[13:25] <hateball> zetheroo: well, !tab works, it could be called something else
[13:26] <lerner> you sound like a standard phone operator
[13:26] <lotuspsychje> lerner: its the opensource thinking, the community helping each other with filing bugs
[13:26] <zetheroo> hateball: yeah, I tried with TAB ... doesn't look like snmp has anything there
[13:27] <lerner> then you are welcomed :D
[13:28] <lerner> I got rid of chromium, but the icon is still to be seen in the applications menu. Oddly, it doesnt appear in the more detailed "Properties" menu, and I cannot get rid of it: compare the left and center sides of this screenshot: http://www.shareimages.com/image-r.php?76734-pJacl5yek6Kkk5.VnA-chromium.png
[13:28] <BinaryVAX> whats a good screen cap tool like oCam but for linux i did try kazam but it has issues on my system
[13:29] <hateball> BinaryVAX: This works well what little I've used it https://obsproject.com/download#linux
[13:32] <lotuspsychje> lerner: tried a reboot?
[13:32] <lerner> lotuspsychje, yes
[13:32] <effectnet> ok for this project anyway, i want to boot something and work with the partitions, and i guess isolate a bad partition.  what's a good bootable tool?
[13:32] <lotuspsychje> lerner: how did you uninstall chromium?
[13:33] <lerner> i dont remember, I think I just deleted the whole directory
[13:33] <lerner> .chromium maybe
[13:33] <lotuspsychje> lerner: you did not use purge?
[13:33] <lerner> if purge is a command, no
[13:34] <lotuspsychje> lerner: sudo apt purge chromium-browser
[13:34] <lerner> Package 'chromium-browser' is not installed, so not removed
[13:34] <lerner> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
[13:35] <lundmar> TJ-: fyi - there is some new findings in the gnome-terminal unmaximize report. Apparently the issue does not present itself when using eg. metacity. So it seems a unity specific issue.
[13:36] <lotuspsychje> lundmar: but other terminals work like a charm on unity?
[13:36] <lotuspsychje> lerner: not sure mate, you might have scrambled someting by deleting manually?
[13:37] <TJ-> lundmar: yes, I'm following the email notifications on the reprot
[13:37] <lundmar> lotuspsychje: I don't know - haven't tested others.
[13:37] <TJ-> lundmar: I'm on another related issue in the unity-greeter too bug 1571640
[13:37] <lotuspsychje> lundmar: i did test with sakura and terminator
[13:38] <lotuspsychje> lundmar: i also tested gnome-terminal on fresh xenial install, same bug
[13:41] <lundmar> TJ-: oh, so windows and screens are currently a hot topic I see.
[13:41] <TJ-> lundmar: same old world, been this way for more than 10 years :D
[13:42] <lundmar> TJ-: I hope things will change for the better once we get rid of X ;)
[13:42] <lundmar> in 10 years or so i guess haha
[13:43] <TJ-> lundmar: I doubt it... that will remove network client/server remote desktop functions
[13:44] <lundmar> TJ-: surely an alternative solution to that is still being pondered.
[13:48] <Sreekumar> hi
[13:48] <Sreekumar> How can I install HP Scanner N9120
[13:48] <Sreekumar> anybody can help me?
[13:50] <hateball> Sreekumar: Plug it in
[13:50] <Sreekumar> ok
[13:50] <Sreekumar> then?
[13:51] <hateball> Sreekumar: hplip should be installed by default, and it should work out of the box in any SANE app
[13:51] <Sreekumar> hplip installed but not working
[13:52] <hateball> Sreekumar: oh my bad... I thought it was OfficeJet 9120 and not ScanJet
[13:52] <lotuspsychje> Sreekumar: try hplip-gui and scan from there?
[13:52] <Sreekumar> scanned but not finding the model
[13:53] <lotuspsychje> Sreekumar: wich ubuntu version are you on?
[13:53] <Sreekumar> 14.04
[13:53] <Sreekumar> 64bit
[13:54] <Sreekumar> any other way to install?
[13:54] <hateball> Sreekumar: I can't find the model on hplip http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/index.html
[13:55] <hateball> And on HP's site, there is only Windows listed... usually if it has Linux support it will direct you to hplip
[13:55] <Sreekumar> that model not in that site
[13:56] <Sreekumar> HP peoples given to me three files
[13:56] <the_ghost> Sreekumar: What is difference of lsusb with scanner plugged in?
[13:56] <Sreekumar> libsane.la, libsane.so.1.0.18, libsane-hpn912.so.1.0.18
[13:57] <Sreekumar> the_ghost I did't get you
[13:58] <the_ghost> in terminal without scanner type: lsusb, then plug it in and type again. there should be a new entry can you copy/paste that?
[13:58] <Sreekumar> not checked
[13:58] <Sreekumar> I will check please wait
[14:01] <marcelito> g
[14:01] <hateball> Sreekumar: I'm not sure, but maybe you can place libsane-hpn912.so.1.0.18 in /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/sane/
[14:05] <jackmord> Guys?
[14:05] <jackmord> Mind if i ask something?
[14:05] <Pici> jackmord: don't ask to ask, just ask :)
[14:06] <jackmord> What IRSSI command that shows all available server channels?
[14:06] <osx> how can i show installed kernels in console?
[14:07] <jackmord> exit
[14:07] <osx> after upgrade from 15.10 to 16.04 is still got kernel 4.2 i thought it should be kernel 4.4
[14:08] <compdoc> fresh install:   Linux ubuntu 4.4.0-21-generic #37-Ubuntu SMP
[14:08] <osx> ok seems mine got not updated or is not booted by default
[14:08] <kpettit> anybody by chance know of a tool like yumi or some USB mutli boot creation tool?  I hate having to use windows to create multi-boot USB drives.
[14:09] <lotuspsychje> kpettit: multisystem
[14:10] <kpettit> awesome!  I didn't know about that one.  Thanks lotuspsychje
[14:10] <lotuspsychje> kpettit: just keep in mind its not officially on repos
[14:10] <lotuspsychje> kpettit: use at own risk :p
[14:11] <kpettit> Does it suck?
[14:11] <lotuspsychje> kpettit: no it rocks, drag n drop the iso's to the program and burn
[14:11] <kpettit> do the linux's boot up ok?  I had a problem for awhile where ubuntu stuff would boot OK but Centos ones would always have issues.
[14:12] <lotuspsychje> kpettit: tested only ubuntu official flavors on it myself, experiment with it a bit
[14:12] <lotuspsychje> kpettit: i had 6 iso's on 1 stick lubuntu,xubuntu and ubuntu-desktop all 32 and 64bit
[14:13] <satysin> hi all, I have to run the following command to stop my mouse cursor going crazy (xset m 1) and would like to make the change permanent but not too sure how I do that with xorg conf files
[14:13] <satysin> Can anyone help?
[14:13] <kpettit> lotuspsychje: Ok, I'll give it a whirl and put it through it's paces.  I've got customers on various linux flavors so I have to keep a bunch of linux's things arround
[14:14] <lotuspsychje> kpettit: perhaps there's a dd way to put several iso's on usb.., there is also an AOI image with all ubuntu flavors on it somewhere
[14:15] <anomaly44> what would be the best way to backup my system?
[14:15] <rory> !backup
[14:15] <anomaly44> thx
[14:16] <kpettit> lotuspsychje: Cool thanks for the tips.  I've done a lot of dd, pretty sure that won't work but this multisystem sounds very promising.  I'll experiment a bit and see how it goes.
[14:16] <liceo-provsa> ciao a tutti
[14:16] <rory> fwiw anomaly44 I just copy important files to an external drive a couple of times a year and leave it at my mum's.
[14:16] <anlage> does it run?
[14:16] <lotuspsychje> !it | liceo-provsa
[14:16] <lotuspsychje> kpettit: it works nicely, good luck :p
[14:17] <anomaly44> rory, since i m a linux noob and mess up my system a lot, i wanted to try backuping :p
[14:18] <serverboy> how do i list directory using ls showing 3 columns?
[14:18] <anlage> LALALALALALALLALALALALALLALALALALLALALALALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLL
[14:18] <lotuspsychje> anlage: not here please
[14:18] <huehue_> good day guys
[14:18] <huehue_> I need help
[14:19] <romare> hey, after a fresh install of ubuntu gnome first thing I wanted to do was installing wine, but I get this error:
[14:19] <huehue_> RTL-8029AS - recognized but not ready"
[14:19] <romare> The following packages have unmet dependencies:  wine : Depends: wine1.6 but it is not going to be installed E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[14:19] <romare> I searched it but none of the solutions worked
[14:19] <huehue_> ne2k_pci loaded !!
[14:20] <billydaz> romare: I guess you are using apt packages
[14:20] <romare> billydaz: which means?
[14:20] <BenderRodriguez> romare, you have broken packages
[14:20] <billydaz> downloading directly from apt
[14:20] <billydaz> apt-get install
[14:21] <romare> doing it manually is too much work:(
[14:21] <billydaz> do this apt-get purge wine
[14:21] <billydaz> apt-get install -f
[14:21] <djzn> hi folks, i'm looking for an app that displays a countdown timer on ubuntu's top taskbar, like an app-indicator... something that will count a session in minutes. Is there such thing from the repos?
[14:21] <romare> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Permission denied) E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[14:22] <billydaz> rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[14:22] <billydaz> then try it again
[14:22] <romare> again, the same error
[14:22] <billydaz> ensure you have sudo
[14:23] <romare> billydaz:  ok it worked now but
[14:23] <romare> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[14:23] <billydaz> apt-cache search wine
[14:24] <romare> so I got a list
[14:25] <romare> sorry I'm new to linux
[14:25] <huehue_> RTL-8029AS - recognized but not ready. But ne2k_pci loaded! :/
[14:25] <billydaz> romare: its no problem
[14:26] <billydaz> try apt-cache search wine --stable
[14:26] <romare> billydaz: so what will I do with this list?
[14:26] <romare> ok
[14:27] <romare> E: Command line option --stable is not understood in combination with the other options
[14:27] <billydaz> ok
[14:27] <billydaz> sudo apt-get install wine --stable
[14:27] <romare> again
[14:27] <romare> E: Command line option --stable is not understood in combination with the other options
[14:28] <billydaz> ok remove the stable
[14:28] <Teaboy> isn't it supposed to be apt-get install wine/stable
[14:28] <lotuspsychje> romare: wich ubuntu version are you on of gnome?
[14:28] <serverboy> hello pls help. i need command to show directory listing in 3 columns
[14:28] <billydaz> Teaboy: thanks
[14:29] <romare> 16.04 LTS
[14:29] <lotuspsychje> !info wine
[14:29] <romare> just a fresh install. I didn't change anything on it
[14:29] <lotuspsychje> romare: you have the universe repo enabled?
[14:29] <billydaz> sudo apt-get install wine/stable
[14:29] <romare> lotuspsychje: you mean those canonical partners thing?
[14:30] <romare> billydaz: did that. the same error I got
[14:30] <huehue_> RTL-8029AS - recognized but not ready. But ne2k_pci loaded!
[14:30] <lotuspsychje> romare: check your sources
[14:30] <billydaz> lets see the source list
[14:30] <romare> how do I do that?
[14:30] <huehue_> Now I fixed set up interfaces auto eth1 iface eth1 dhcp
[14:30] <lotuspsychje> romare: software & sources
[14:31] <usr13> serverboy: If your terminal window is the right width, just ls
[14:31] <serverboy> hello pls help. i need command to show directory listing in 3 columns
[14:31] <Village> Hello Guys, maybe someone knows how to convert http stream to ace stream?
[14:31] <billydaz> cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[14:31] <huehue_> network manager can't use
[14:32] <romare> billydaz: https://ghostbin.com/paste/mz2bk
[14:32] <usr13> serverboy: (it will depend on how long the filenames are)
[14:33] <usr13> serverboy: So, can't you just adjust the width of your terminal window?  (You're doing it in a gui terminal, right?)
[14:33] <nillawafer> Strangest thing... I did a fresh install of 16.04 on my Latitude E5420 and Network Manager thinks my BCM4313 802.11n wireless adapter is an wired ethernet adapter. Any ideas?
[14:33] <serverboy> Hi usr13. is ther any way to use ls -C to show directory listing in 3 columns
[14:33] <usr13> serverboy: I just told you.
[14:34] <usr13> serverboy: (I'm pretty sure -C is default anyway.)
[14:34] <lotuspsychje> nillawafer: sudo service network-manager restart
[14:35] <billydaz> romare: your list is fine
[14:36] <romare> billydaz: so what would be the problem? btw I have this problem with every app I want to install.
[14:36] <romare> this is my second fresh install of ubuntu gnome
[14:36] <billydaz> sudo bash -c "apt-get update;apt-get install -f"
[14:36] <romare> obviously there's something wrong with ubuntu gnome
[14:36] <dhanzkie> hello
[14:36] <billydaz> what is the error message again
[14:36] <romare> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[14:37] <nillawafer> lotuspsychje: that appears to have fixed this issue. Wireless networks are showing up in the list now.
[14:37] <billydaz> open another terminal and run tail -f /var/log/syslog
[14:37] <serverboy> usr13:yes but how do list directory in just 3 columns?
[14:37] <lotuspsychje> nillawafer: its a bug, i have it also perhaps you can file the bug?
[14:37] <dhanzkie> hello how can i locked my screen on ubuntu mate?
[14:37] <usr13> serverboy: ld ?
[14:37] <serverboy> usr13: i need a command
[14:38] <romare> billydaz: https://ghostbin.com/paste/6ujpy
[14:39] <usr13> serverboy: You are wanting to list files?  Right?  (As opposed to list directories?)
[14:39] <nillawafer> dhanzkie: Ctrl + Alt + L
[14:40] <serverboy> Yes but i just need 3 columns without touching the terminal
[14:40] <billydaz> romare: apparently it is meant to capture logs when you run the apt command
[14:40] <lotuspsychje> nillawafer: if you file the bug, ill mark as affected
[14:40] <romare> billydaz: meaning?
[14:41] <nillawafer> lotuspsychje: I will look into filing a bug on launchpad
[14:42] <lotuspsychje> nillawafer: thank you, i also on fresh xenial and b43
[14:42] <Lope> I see all of the ISO downloads on ubuntu's site are insecure (HTTP, not HTTPS) and even the torrent file offered on ubuntu's site is served insecurely as well (HTTP not HTTPS)
[14:42] <wabber> Hi, I'm trying to use the proprietary nvidia driver. I tried installing it through the ubuntu repository and the nvidia standalone driver. This is my xorg.conf: http://pastebin.com/nn42GaX6 (it was generated by the nvidia tool). But according to my x11 log file, the intel driver, nouveau and the nvidia driver are beeing loaded. X11 then uses the intel graphics. How can I force X11 to only use the nvidia module?
[14:42] <billydaz> romare: how many terminal screens do you hvae open
[14:42] <romare> billydaz: two
[14:42] <romare> billydaz: sorry, one
[14:42] <billydaz> have you run the apt command
[14:42] <lotuspsychje> Lope: you was here earlier this week dont you asking the same question
[14:43] <romare> which apt command?
[14:43] <billydaz> try to open another one
[14:43] <Lope> lotuspsychje: I didn't ask that.
[14:43] <billydaz> so that you have two
[14:43] <romare> and then?
[14:43] <Lope> So why are all of the ubuntu downloads insecure?
[14:43] <lotuspsychje> Lope: there are md5 to test the iso's
[14:43] <Lope> the md5's are served over HTTP as well
[14:43] <lotuspsychje> Lope: http doesnt mean insecure...
[14:43] <Lope> so the md5 are insecure also
[14:44] <ronator> sounds like someone is trolling
[14:44] <ronator> try to download any other distro over https ;-)
[14:44] <billydaz> then in one run sudo bash -c "apt-get update;apt-get install -f"
[14:44] <Lope> ronator: go check for yourself
[14:44] <ronator> I do not need, i check the md5sum
[14:44] <lotuspsychje> Lope: do you have an ubuntu issue?
[14:44] <billydaz> then in the other runtail -f /var/log/syslog
[14:44] <Lope> ronator: I have
[14:44] <ronator> so what is your proeblem actually?
[14:45] <Lope> lotuspsychje: yes, I can't seem to find a secure download of ubuntu, thats an ubuntu issue.
[14:45] <usr13> wabber: nouveau is the open-source nvidia driver (not intel).  Paste your /var/log/Xorg.0.log so we can see what you have loaded.
[14:45] <dksmw> Lope: sums are signed
[14:45] <romare> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[14:45] <ronator> well you could use an ftps/sftp server
[14:45] <Lope> dksmw: how can the sums be verified?
[14:45] <ronator> dont know why poeople frefer down load over a browser ;-)
[14:45] <Lope> the ftp servers don't prevent MITM?
[14:46] <ronator> READ
[14:46] <lotuspsychje> Lope: the way of downloading doesnt matter as the iso can be md5
[14:46] <usr13> wabber: Or you can look at the output of "grep Driver /var/log/Xorg.0.log"
[14:46] <lotuspsychje> Lope: did you find an unsecure iso of ubuntu yet?
[14:46] <romare> billydaz: https://ghostbin.com/paste/koey9
[14:46] <Lope> lotuspsychje: and where do you suggest the real md5 is viewed? on the insecure HTTP page?
[14:47] <lotuspsychje> Lope: stop it please
[14:47] <akik> Lope: here's the info how to check the signatures https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto
[14:47] <l0llipop> Lope: If you find ubuntu downloading insecure: go to build your own linux then
[14:47] <Lope> http://mirror.pnl.gov/releases/xenial/MD5SUMS thats an insecure md5
[14:47] <blacknred0> i have a file document_object*.json where *=numbers, but it is showing other files that do not have numbers. how could I do a ls just for files with numbers?
[14:47] <Desu> md5 collisions are pretty easy to generate, the images should be gpg signed
[14:47] <billydaz> hmm nothing discriptive in that
[14:48] <Desu> md5 is for checking for corruption, not validity
[14:48] <billydaz> what is the errror on the apt screen buffer
[14:48] <usr13> wabber: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log |nc termbin.com 9999
[14:48] <usr13> wabber: and send resulting URL
[14:48] <dksmw> Lope: there are sha-256 sums too
[14:48] <Desu> blacknred0: shell dependent
[14:48] <ronator> SFTP / FTPS is NOT FTP
[14:48] <romare> billydaz: can you open the question?
[14:48] <Lope> Desu: they also offer other hashes, over insecure HTTP.
[14:48] <Desu> dksmw: which shouldn't be used for validation either
[14:49] <Lope> dksmw: ^
[14:49] <blacknred0> Desu: yes
[14:49] <wabber> usr13: pasted it on pastebin already srry: http://pastebin.com/tpyz5dT7 I know that nouveau is the open source which is why I'm confused that it gets loaded. But according to the grep only the intel and nvidia driver are beeing used
[14:49] <Lope> What's the point in offering these hashes insecurely? why bother offering them at all? http://mirror.pnl.gov/releases/xenial/SHA256SUMS
[14:49] <Lope> http://mirror.pnl.gov/releases/xenial/SHA256SUMS.gpg
[14:50] <Desu> blacknred0: on sane shells you can do foo[0-9]bar
[14:50] <usr13> wabber: lspci |nc termbin.com 9999
[14:50] <aaaasas> HEY
[14:50] <aaaasas> s
[14:50] <Lope> So is it impossible to securely download ubuntu?
[14:50] <Desu> blacknred0: you can also use find with the full power of regex
[14:51] <wabber> usr13:
[14:51] <lotuspsychje> !ops | lope trolling about https again
[14:51] <wabber> usr13: http://termbin.com/rfyu :D
[14:51] <Desu> Lope: use gpg
[14:51] <Lope> Not trolling, its a legitemate question
[14:51] <Wulf> Lope: http://releases.ubuntu.com/16.04/  what is missing?
[14:51] <rp2> I think it's a legitimate question, too
[14:51] <Lope> Desu: I've asked repeatedly, where am I supposed to get a GPG key to verify the file with?
[14:52] <blacknred0> Desu: thanks! that did the trick!
[14:52] <akik> Lope: here's the info how to check the signatures https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto
[14:52] <Desu> not using https really is a mistake, but then again https won't help if the site is hacked nayway
[14:52] <Desu> anyway*
[14:52] <Desu> Lope: you can go and meet one of the devs in person, or verfy the key against several third parties etc
[14:52] <Desu> Lope: all depends on how paranoid you are
[14:53] <Lope> Desu: but why do I need to be paranoid to get a secure download?
[14:53] <Desu> Lope: read up on the concept of web of trust
[14:53] <rp2> because security is not a yes/no property
[14:54] <jiggawattz> Transmission's website was h@x0red recently....... all the OS X downloaders were infected with Key Ranger
[14:54] <akik> Lope: i've pasted the answer to your question twice. why do you ignore it?
[14:54] <rp2> https will keep others from tampering with the .iso and .md5 between the Ubuntu server and you, but it does nothing to prevent them from tampering with them on the Ubuntu server
[14:54] <jiggawattz> Brave New World
[14:54] <rp2> or on your own machine
[14:54] <lotuspsychje> lets not discuss here guys
[14:54] <lotuspsychje> !discuss
[14:54] <usr13> wabber: What you have is two display adapters, one is intel the other is nvidia.  So two driver modules are being loaded, one for the intel and one for the nvidia display adapter.  That is normal. (And you are, in fact, using the proprietary nvidia driver for the Nvidia display adapter.)
[14:54] <jiggawattz> lotuspsychje ▸ does it make you uncomfortable?
[14:54] <Desu> if the whole of the intertubes thinks that the gpg key of ubuntu is valid, it probably is
[14:54] <lotuspsychje> jiggawattz: the channel is meant for ubuntu support issues
[14:55] <Lope> akik: thanks, reading now.
[14:55] <jiggawattz> security is a ubuntu issue, in my opinion
[14:55] <jiggawattz> we should be concerned about the security of Ubuntu's distribution servers
[14:55] <lotuspsychje> jiggawattz: if its a specific problem on ubuntu, yes, but a security discussion doesnt fit here
[14:56]  * dksmw shudders from a thought about https downloads
[14:56] <wabber> usr13: this is a laptop and I'm using the onboard screen. When I open the nvidia management tool it says I'm not using the nvidia driver. Also I have no glx extensions :/
[14:57] <rp2> the support question is: how can I download an Ubuntu .iso over https? The answer is: sorry, can't be done. THe followup question is: why not. Is that a support question? I'd say no.
[14:57] <nitin> hello kam720
[14:57] <usr13> wabber: dmesg |nc termbin.com 9999
[14:57] <wabber> usr13: http://termbin.com/z26u
[14:59] <MacroMan> I want to upgrade from 14.04 LTS to 16.04 LTS, but upon running do-release-upgrade, I'm told that a new release is not found. I'm fully updated.
[14:59] <usr13> wabber: Ok, I see: " nvidia: module verification failed: signature and/or required key missing - tainting kernel"
[14:59] <popey> !ltsupgrade | MacroMan
[14:59] <lotuspsychje> !ltsupgrade | MacroMan
[14:59] <wabber> usr13: huh, do you know what causes that error?
[15:00] <dksmw> MacroMan: don't upgrade yet, xenial is buggy like hell
[15:00] <malwar3hun73r> is there a good way to monitor syslog for a specific log (vpn connection) and send an email alert?  I'm testing logcheck now, but it seems overly verbose and difficult to tune.
[15:00] <usr13> wabber: Assuming you have the correct nvidia driver module loaded, you may need to run the nvidia configuration tool again.  BUT, my guess is that the nvidia driver module did NOT install properly.
[15:00] <lotuspsychje> dksmw: please dont say thinks like that here
[15:00] <OerHeks> !fud
[15:01] <usr13> wabber: .... so I would just uninstall it and download from nvidia.com and install it manually.
[15:01] <lotuspsychje> afternoon eric__
[15:01] <wabber> usr13: ok, I'll try that. Thanks.
[15:01] <dksmw> lotuspsychje: look at release notes maybe?
[15:01] <usr13> wabber: ... or maybe that's what you did already?
[15:01] <EriC^^_> afternoon lotus
[15:01] <xnaveira> anyone knows why lldpd is not available on 16.04?
[15:01] <lotuspsychje> dksmw: lets not discuss that here
[15:02] <gsivori> hi everyone
[15:02] <MacroMan> Has the release date for Xenial changed? I swear it was due for release in April.
[15:02] <Seveas> xnaveira: it is available.
[15:02] <Seveas> !info lldpd xenial
[15:02] <OerHeks> xnaveira, it should > https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lldpd/0.7.19-1
[15:02] <wabber> usr13: yea actually I'm did. I tried the repository one, which didn't work at all (black screen). Then I purged everything and installed the one from nvidia manually which resulted in no glx extensions
[15:02] <usr13> wabber: Ok, I *have* seen cases where the package from Ubuntu repos for nvidia just does not work properly, and I think that is one of those cases.
[15:03] <BlackVenom> Hey folks
[15:03] <usr13> wabber: sudo apt-get remove nvidia*
[15:03] <BlackVenom> using the Git command, how do I copy a github repo
[15:04] <gsivori> i'm running ubuntu 16.04 with mate 1.12.2. back then with 15 and now i face this issue where the boot encounters disk errors and i have to reboot. there were times i had to do fsck -y /.. etc. anyone had this issue before?
[15:04] <usr13> wabber: ... and just go to nvidia.com, download direct and use their instructions for install.  It's not that hard.
[15:04] <rp2> 16.04 LTS was released on April, 21: https://insights.ubuntu.com/2016/04/20/canonical-unveils-6th-lts-release-of-ubuntu-with-16-04/
[15:04] <MacroMan> But I'm offered a download for 16.04 on the Ubuntu website and the release date was 21st April.
[15:04] <usr13> wabber: The /etc/X11/xorg.conf file may work as is.
[15:04] <xnaveira> that's weird, in my netinstall machines it isn't, ty anyway
[15:04] <Pici> MacroMan: and?
[15:05] <rp2> maybe your mirror doesn't have it yet?
[15:05] <MacroMan> ubottu thinks it's not out until July 21st
[15:05] <DJones> MacroMan: LTS to LTS upgrades are only automatically offered once the 1st point release is issued, so you'll get the update in July when 16.04.1 is released, its been that way for the last few LTS releases
[15:05] <usr13> wabber: But the installer will more-than-likely re-create it.  (You could remove the existing one, but probably not necessary.)
[15:05] <wabber> usr13: I am currently using the manually installed one. remove nvidia* removed 0 packages
[15:05] <rp2> aah
[15:05] <OerHeks> MacroMan, upgrade will be offered with the 16.04.1 release, not now, but see the upgrade wiki howto do it now
[15:05] <rp2> thanks for explaining
[15:05] <MacroMan> DJones, I see. Thank you
[15:05] <mortenm> I have a question if anyone can help me regarding software for chineese symbols in open office or libre writer.. I have this text that is currently translated by chineese person into symbols... But the symbols got saved in a bnp immage file... How can I/ is there a way to make the transission into a word document so i can format symbol size and layout... I tried font manager but it did not seem to have any of the tools for doing this... Any
[15:05] <mortenm>  sugestions...?
[15:06] <MacroMan> Is there anyway I can start an upgrade to the next LTS now?
[15:06] <rp2> try to get this person to produce something other than bitmap images
[15:06] <rp2> that would be my suggestion
[15:07] <usr13> wabber: If sudo apt-get remove nvidia* did not remove any packages, I suppose you had already removed it somehow.
[15:07] <rp2> mortenm: why can't this person use LibreOffice?
[15:07] <usr13> wabber: And that would be why it is not loading, becuase it does not exist in the first place.
[15:08] <usr13> wabber: are you sure?  Look and see.
[15:08] <usr13> wabber: ls /var/lib/dpkg/info/nvidia*list
[15:08] <wabber> usr13: yes I did. I installed the repository one, got a black screen after reboot. Used the terminal to purge everything again and then I the one from nvidia.com manually which resulted in a functioning xorg but without glx extensions
[15:08] <lotuspsychje> MacroMan: clean install or do-release-upgrade perhaps?
[15:08] <wabber> usr13: *then I installed
[15:08] <usr13> wabber: ls /var/lib/dpkg/info/*nvidia* |grep list
[15:09] <MacroMan> lotuspsychje, do-release-upgrade tells me there is no release available.
[15:09] <usr13> wabber: Oh you got a black screen?  Was there a cursor on it?
[15:09] <wabber> usr13: returns nothing
[15:09] <effectnet> how big do i make /home?
[15:09] <gsivori> i'm running ubuntu 16.04 with mate 1.12.2. back then with 15 and now i face this issue where the boot encounters disk errors and i have to reboot. there were times i had to do fsck -y /dev/sdb .. etc. anyone had this issue before?
[15:09] <wabber> usr13: don't remember oo
[15:09] <usr13> !nomodeset | wabber
[15:10] <lotuspsychje> MacroMan: could try force with -d option
[15:10] <wabber> usr13, ubottu: so using the driver from the repository with nomodeset as a kernel parameter could work?
[15:10] <usr13> wabber: Yes
[15:11] <lotuspsychje> MacroMan: dont forget to backup before upgrading
[15:11] <wabber> usr13: Alright. I'm gonna try that then. Thanks.
[15:11] <usr13> wabber: Install it again, if you get black screen, try nomodeset
[15:11] <usr13> or just do it anyway
[15:11] <MacroMan> lotuspsychje, OK will give that a try. Thank you. I'm just doing this on a test duplicate of my live server.
[15:11] <lotuspsychje> MacroMan: your on server?
[15:12] <MacroMan> lotuspsychje, I'll be upgrading a server edition yes
[15:12] <lotuspsychje> MacroMan: for production?
[15:13] <MacroMan> No. this is a copy of my production server to test if all my software will still work after an upgarde
[15:13] <lotuspsychje> MacroMan: ok good luck
[15:13] <usr13> Wow, I handled that completely backwards.  Should have asked wabber to verify that nvidia package was installed *first*! ;(
[15:13] <mortenm> I have a question if anyone can help me regarding software for chineese symbols in open office or libre writer.. I have this text that is currently translated by chineese person into symbols... But the symbols got saved in a bnp immage file... How can I/ is there a way to make the transission into a word document so i can format symbol size and layout... I tried font manager but it did not seem to have any of the tools for doing this... Any
[15:13] <mortenm>  sugestions...?
[15:16] <wad> So I need to install some sort of antivirus on my Ubuntu machine. I know it's not needed, but company policy, blah blah blah. Recommendations?
[15:17] <lotuspsychje> !info clamav | wad
[15:17] <wad> Thanks!
[15:17] <lotuspsychje> wad: is this for desktop computer or server?
[15:17] <wad> desktop
[15:17] <MacroMan> lotuspsychje, Thanks. Running do-release-upgrade -d seems to have done the trick.
[15:17] <lotuspsychje> !yay | MacroMan
[15:17] <wad> clamav still hte best choice?
[15:18] <ak-Boulet> hi there
[15:18] <lotuspsychje> wad: depends what your hunting for
[15:18] <wad> Something that will get the IT department off my back....
[15:19] <youzi> 中文房间
[15:19] <lotuspsychje> wad: its not like you running services on your box or so?
[15:19] <lotuspsychje> !zh | youzi
[15:19] <wad> Naw, just a development machine.
[15:19] <lotuspsychje> wad: openssh installed?
[15:19] <wad> yes
[15:20] <wad> And openssh-server.
[15:20] <lotuspsychje> !info fail2ban | wad
[15:20] <wad> Oh yeah, I love fail2ban. Been running it on my servers for years. Didn't even think about putting it on my desktop...
[15:21] <lotuspsychje> wad: your ubuntu box connected to the rest of the network? windows? linux?
[15:22] <youzi> wendu.c:5:1: warning: return type defaults to ‘int’ [-Wimplicit-int]
[15:22] <youzi>  main()  这个提示什么意思
[15:22] <wad> The network is huge. Lots of Windows, Mac, Linux.
[15:22] <lotuspsychje> wad: your box has samba connections?
[15:22] <wad> No samba.
[15:23] <youzi> wendu.c:5:1: warning: return type defaults to ‘int’ [-Wimplicit-int]
[15:23] <youzi>  main()  这个提示什么意思啊
[15:23] <lotuspsychje> !security | wad for deeper hardening
[15:24] <lotuspsychje> wad: ufw, rkhunter and snort might also be handy
[15:25] <wad> Okay, thanks for the tips!
[15:25] <lotuspsychje> wad: good luck with your angry IT department :p
[15:26] <wad> Thanks.
[15:26] <youzi> wendu.c:5:1: warning: return type defaults to ‘int’ [-Wimplicit-int]  main()  这个提示什么意思
[15:26] <wad> They told me that I couldn't use linux, that I had to use Windows, for "security reasons". I was like, "Do you see any irony here? No?"
[15:26] <lotuspsychje> wad: lol :p
[15:27] <wad> So I'm running Ubuntu under Virtualbox. For security....  (－‸ლ)
[15:27] <wad> Working to get the company policy fixed.
[15:28] <wad> Any ammo you can pass on would be appreciated.
[15:28] <ogra_> talk them into win10 ... then you can run ubuntu natively ;)
[15:28] <mortenm> Is it not safe to upgrade to ubuntu 16.04 if your grafic card is an AMD card?
[15:29] <wad> I'm on win10. And running bash isn't the same as running Ubuntu natively....
[15:29] <ogra_> wad: is wasnt actually serious ;)
[15:29] <wad> ogra_, sorry, I didn't notice the </sarcasm> tag. :)
[15:30] <lotuspsychje> mortenm: wich version your on right now and wich driver in use?
[15:31] <rp2> wad: there are plenty of options, e.g. see https://www.av-test.org/en/news/news-single-view/linux-16-security-packages-against-windows-and-linux-malware-put-to-the-test/
[15:31]  * wad clicks
[15:31] <OerHeks> mortenm, it is safe, only the proprietary AMD Catalyst (fglrx) driver has been t̶e̶m̶p̶o̶r̶a̶r̶i̶l̶y̶ removed the Ubuntu 16.04 LTS repositories, as it is not yet ported to X.Org Server 1.8
[15:31] <mortenm> grafics is Gallium 0.4 on AMD RV635 (DRM 2.43.0, LLVM 3.6.2).. Runing ububntu 15.10 now
[15:32] <mortenm> Ok thx.. safe then..
[15:33] <mortenm> thx... Have a nice day all :-)
[15:40] <jayjo> what does rc stand for in bashrc?
[15:41] <somsip> jayjo: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/11030552/what-does-rc-mean-in-dot-files
[15:41] <jayjo> somsip: runtime configuration
[15:41] <jayjo> nice
[15:42] <cdidd> if you launch gedit from root on 16.04, it has client side decorations. How to make it use client side decorations in user mode?
[15:43] <cdidd> The emptiness of toolbar irritates me.
[15:44] <xangua> cdidd: install gnome shell
[15:45] <cdidd> xangua, I don't want gnome-shell. I want csd in my gedit in unity. root's gedit has empty home dir, it means csd is disabled by something in my user dir environment.
[15:45] <kalexyco> bonsoir
[15:45] <lotuspsychje> !fr | kalexyco
[15:46] <bennabiy> how do I manually set up static IP and interface names in 16.04?
[15:46] <teward> bennabiy: with predictable network interface naming that exists in Xenial, it should already be 'static' for interfaces, unless your interfaces change frequently
[15:46] <teward> bennabiy: static IP configuration remains the same as it has been in the past
[15:46] <Skaag> how do you install java these days? I tried default-jdk and default-jre and both are installed and I still don't have a 'java' binary
[15:47] <Skaag> I'm running 16.04
[15:47] <bennabiy> teward: I am used to using /etc/network/interfaces
[15:47] <teward> bennabiy: you still can
[15:47] <bennabiy> and the eth*
[15:47] <bennabiy> what is setting the enp2s0 type name?
[15:47] <bennabiy> networkd?
[15:47] <teward> bennabiy: the kernel - it uses predictable network interface naming
[15:47] <bennabiy> or udev?
[15:48] <bennabiy> Where can I get more info teward ?
[15:48] <teward> bennabiy: enp2s0 isn't going to 'change' though - eth0 and eth1, etc. were not predictive
[15:48] <teward> bennabiy: more info on... what?
[15:48] <dannymichel> https://discussions.agilebits.com/discussion/42126/making-1password-work-in-ubuntu-14-04 that doesnt seem to be working. i followed it to the T. anyone use 1password/wine?
[15:48] <teward> bennabiy: https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames/ <-- more info on Predictable Network Interface Names
[15:48] <cdidd> Skaag probably openjdk
[15:48] <bennabiy> teward: thank you
[15:48] <teward> bennabiy: just replace 'eth0', etc. with the interface names listed in `ifconfig -a`
[15:48] <joe_b> Anyone getting ridiculous overheating issues with an i7 haswell on 16.04?
[15:49] <teward> bennabiy: no difference in how to configure /etc/network/interfaces from before, except you have to use a different interface name than 'ethX'
[15:49] <sylvain31> Hi, what does replace dh_pysupport which was in the package python-support, which doesn't exist  in 16.04?
[15:49] <bennabiy> teward: thank you. I just was not used to the names, and wondered where they came from
[15:50] <bennabiy> teward: the link helps
[15:50] <cdidd> Skaag sudo update-alternatives --config java
[15:50] <teward> bennabiy: you're welcome!  You can always make manual udev rules to enforce naming the old way, but I would advise against it unless you know what you're doing, because the predictable netowrk interface way means it always gets that name
[15:51] <bennabiy> teward: I am used to forcing name based on mac ID through udev
[15:51] <bennabiy> teward: I will try the predictable names and see if it is stable enough for my use case
[15:51] <joe_b> Anyone getting ridiculous overheating issues with an i7 haswell on 16.04? I'm idleing at 75-85
[15:51] <teward> bennabiy: you still can if you wish - i'm just saying you don't *have* to in the long term
[15:51] <bennabiy> teward: understood
[15:52] <bennabiy> teward: the new name just threw me off
[15:52] <ikonia> joe_b: you understand that i7 is probably nothing to do it, it's more likley the chipset and sensors on your board
[15:53] <joe_b> ikonia: In windows it's totally fine, idles at 35-40*, I know its not the sensors
[15:53] <ikonia> no you don't
[15:53] <pitiye> guys i cannot install ubuntu coz halfway after on installation process my laptop gets automatically shut down,  so i am looking for a wubi like solution for this issue. debootstrap does not work either. it gives tons of problems , any working action plan for this ?
[15:53] <ikonia> just because the sensors and power managment is fully supported in windows, doesn't mean it is in linux
[15:54] <ikonia> pitiye: I'd be more interested why your laptop shuts down, rather than looking for terrible install options
[15:54] <joe_b> ikonia: would you know how to diagnose sensors so we can confirm?
[15:54] <pitiye> ikonia: overheating most probably !
[15:54] <ikonia> joe_b: get the chipsets and look at their support status in linux
[15:54] <pitiye> ikonia: it happened for both ubuntu and lubuntu !
[15:54] <ikonia> pitiye: so then a different install method is not the answer
[15:55] <pitiye> ikonia: why not, wubi like install might work,  right now iam on 15.04 and its very stable , and does not overheat my laptop !
[15:55] <CacheMoney> radeon_gem_object_create:62 alloc size 79Mb bigger than 64Mb limit
[15:55] <CacheMoney> current getting that error in dmesg
[15:56] <CacheMoney> when loading KDE for the first time
[15:56] <ikonia> pitiye: a.) wubi is dead b.) if may still cause over heating c.) you still have a core problem of overheatig you'll need to address
[15:57] <pitiye> ikonia: overheating is an issue when comes to using the gpu , which i dont use at all, coz i dont play games. mine is a Nvidia Optimus laptop,  i believe gpu is the culprit !
[15:57] <ikonia> pitiye: doesn't change what I said
[15:57] <joe_b> ikonia: chipset is Haswell i7-4700MQ cant find a site that describes if it's supported or not, do you know of one?
[15:57] <vultyre> pitiye: I had issues with my nvidia Optimus laptop overheating even when idling
[15:58] <ikonia> joe_b: thats the cpu isn't it, not the chipset ?
[15:58] <vultyre> I don't have it anymore but it can be an issue even under low demand
[15:58] <joe_b> ikonia: my appologies i didnt know there was a difference
[15:58] <pitiye> ikonia: but i am using 15.04 and it does not overheat at all !
[15:58] <ikonia> pitiye: not sure what that has to do with it ?
[15:59] <pitiye> vultyre: i guess the GPU is the issue, when it's clock goes up gpu temp ramps up rapidly !
[16:00] <vultyre> Pitiye: http://askubuntu.com/questions/758972/does-ubuntu-16-04-support-hybrid-grafics-cards-bumblebee. It looks like support for bumblebee was deprecated in 16.04
[16:01] <vultyre> Pitiye I switched laptops before 15.04 so I'm not sure if bumblebee was previously configured automatically in previous releases
[16:02] <vultyre> Pitiye: it was not automatic when I was using 12.10 though
[16:02] <pitiye> vultyre: bumblebee was never automatically configured !
[16:02] <sylvain31> is there's some specific channel about .deb package building I got a missing command in 16.04 dh_pysupport doesn't seem to exist any more?
[16:02] <pitiye> vultyre: i had to manually install every time
[16:02] <RickyB98> hello :) i burned the ubuntu server iso on a cd and would like to install it on an old computer that has windows xp on it. i would like to partition the drive. will i lose any file i have on the hard disk now?
[16:02] <ikonia> RickyB98: depends how you partition it
[16:03] <RickyB98> ikonia: how should i partition it not to lose data?
[16:03] <ikonia> RickyB98: don't delete the old partition
[16:03] <RickyB98> okay
[16:03] <RickyB98> will ask here if i have doubts
[16:04] <Stephen44> U won't rickyb92.. Jus click on install along side windows and it'll ask you to resize
[16:05] <DirtyCajun> will dd overwrite the first 2048 bits on the HDD?
[16:05] <ikonia> if you tell it to
[16:05] <DirtyCajun> dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb ??
[16:05] <ikonia> that will write zeros on the whole disk
[16:05] <wwsw> is it possible to install version of openssl  in ubuntu 16.04 from ubuntu 14.04 ?
[16:06] <ikonia> wwsw: no
[16:06] <wwsw> ok, thx
[16:06] <DirtyCajun> ok good. my hard drive is saying its a zfs member no matter how i format it. i want to make sure it deletes the first bits where everything is stored. sound right?
[16:06] <ikonia> wwsw: use 14.04 repos for 14.04 hosts
[16:06] <donofrio> lubuntu-16.04 is working great on my ibook g4 but if anyone has any url's about getting sound, wifi, video 3d(ati) working on my hardware http://apaste.info/cUs - Please let me know what I have to modprobe to get this 99% working
[16:07] <EvilRoey> hi
[16:07] <wwsw> ikonia: ok, but t is possible to compile older version openssl in 16.04 that from repos ?
[16:08] <ikonia> wwsw: that is a very very bad idea
[16:08] <lerner> whats the cli version of sysinfo again?
[16:08] <EvilRoey> שלום
[16:08] <lotuspsychje> lerner: inxi?
[16:10] <OerHeks> donofrio, as the proprietary AMD Catalyst (fglrx) driver has been t̶e̶m̶p̶o̶r̶a̶r̶i̶l̶y̶ removed the Ubuntu 16.04 LTS repositories, as it is not yet ported to X.Org Server 1.8, your video only works with the open driver .. btw why don't you ask in #debian, you clearly don't run ubuntu
[16:10] <EvilRoey> test
[16:11] <donofrio> OerHeks, hu?  I loaded ubuntu on three ibooks last night, how can you say I don't run ubuntu?  16.04 lubuntu is what I curn to dvd
[16:11] <EvilRoey> test2
[16:11] <EvilRoey> hrm
[16:11] <OerHeks> donofrio, not from you post.
[16:11] <donofrio> OerHeks, do you have custom sources.list for fglrx usage even if not mainline supported
[16:11] <ben__> I did something stupid last night, accidentally installed 32-bit instead of 64-bit because I thought Core 2 Quad was 32 bit
[16:12] <ben__> only found out when I couldn't play Cities: Skylines
[16:12] <ikonia> ben__: reinstall 64bit then
[16:12] <ben__> I did now
[16:12] <ben__> *I have now
[16:12] <ikonia> donofrio: so your pastebin shows you running debian
[16:12] <ben__> well, actually, I decided to try Xubuntu instead
[16:12] <donofrio> OerHeks, oh because the inxi looked like debain 8 yah cause that is my first try thought ppc was abandoned by ubuntu afetr 12.04 but looks like its alive and well
[16:12] <donofrio> ikonia, that is just so I can get you good folks my hwinfo
[16:12] <ikonia> donofrio: ?
[16:13] <OerHeks> donofrio, i have no souceslist wit working ati drivers, i gave you the reason why you should stick to the opendriver
[16:14] <donofrio> OerHeks, is open driver enought to run kodi.tv (aka need it to be hardware renedering I believe)
[16:14] <k1l_> donofrio: there is no fglrx for 16.04. there is nothing you can change.
[16:15] <OerHeks> donofrio, no idea if that radeon 9550 can do that, test it yourself?
[16:15] <k1l_> donofrio: amd is not making the fglrx for the xorg version all new linux distributions will use. use radeon or the new amd_gpu kernel drivers
[16:16] <donofrio> k1l_, ok I'll try that in 2 hours....still owrking just wanna get these powerpc boxes working, I got two g5 cheese graters, 5 mac mini's 7 powerpc notebooks, titainum to ibook g4's so yah this is awesome that suppor is still here
[16:18] <TheMontyChrist> is there a way I can mount a fs the connects to another system via ssh or scp?
[16:18] <TheMontyChrist> if so, what's a preferred way of doing it?
[16:18] <TheMontyChrist> package, etc
[16:18] <ikonia> TheMontyChrist: what are you actually trying to do
[16:18] <ikonia> TheMontyChrist: what Distribution
[16:19] <TheMontyChrist> there's a directory of files on another machine that I'd like to access as if it were mounted
[16:19] <TheMontyChrist> ubuntu 14.04
[16:19] <dontknow> is it possible to install 16.04 on already encrypted luks lvm?
[16:19] <TheMontyChrist> I only have ssh access to the macine
[16:19] <ikonia> dontknow: if you decypty it
[16:19] <dontknow> ikonia, have you tried?
[16:19] <ikonia> TheMontyChrist: look at "fuse" and "sshfs"
[16:20] <TheMontyChrist> there are smb mount points, but unfortunately, the directory I want isn't exposed
[16:20] <ikonia> dontknow: not recently
[16:20] <TheMontyChrist> thanks
[16:20] <k1l_> TheMontyChrist: ssh means sftp support.
[16:20] <dontknow> ikonia, i scare that it doesn't ask password at boot
[16:20] <ikonia> dontknow: it will if you put the key there for it
[16:20] <DirtyCajun> that STILL didnt do it. i have wiped this drive 20 different ways. used wipefs... used fdisk. and its still saying zfs_member when i blkid. any help?
[16:21] <ikonia> dontknow: but to be honest, I don't know how you can have it already encypted and expect to use it for a different distro
[16:21] <ikonia> this sounds like another one of your bad ideas
[16:21] <dontknow> ikonia, all i need to decrypt and install right?
[16:21] <MoPac> Hello. I've started getting an awful error with LibreOffice in 16.04.  Opening many dialog windows crashes the entire session -- e.g., the automated document recovery menu on start will display garbled text and buttons, then actually pressing them usually results in a trip to the login screen.
[16:21] <MoPac> Syslog shows the PackageKit daemon quitting on an error and then a GPU hang (this is i915, and [drm] prefaces a number of messages]. Question: should I only consider this a graphics stack error? Or, since this only happens in LibreOffice, should I also be trying to trace/report/debug on that side?  I want to resolve this as quickly as I can, since it's totally blocking...
[16:21] <RickyB98> my computer is saying: This kernel requires an x86-64 CPU, but only detected an i686 CPU. Unable to boot - please use a kernel appropriate for your CPU.
[16:21] <ikonia> dontknow: how do you expect to use this
[16:21] <RickyB98> what does that mean? do i have to use the 32bit version?
[16:21] <dontknow> ikonia, what do you mean?
[16:21] <dury> hi there channel :-)
[16:22] <ikonia> dontknow: well, you have a luks volume I'm guessing
[16:22] <dontknow> ikonia, yes. i can open it and ubuntu sees it in the installer
[16:22] <ikonia> RickyB98: sounds like you have a 32bit cpu
[16:22] <ikonia> dontknow: ok - so if you already have a luks device, how can you partition it for ubuntu
[16:22] <ikonia> dontknow: I'm assuming there is already something on the luks partition/device
[16:22] <touil76> Hello. I did a fresh install of ubuntu 16.04 on my old computer which has an ati radeon X1300 graphics card. Whenever the screen goes off due to inactivity (screen saver), it cannot be woken up by moving the mouse or hit a key. The same ubuntu 16.04 installed on a laptop with intel graphics does not have this problem. So I guess it's radeon related. Ubuntu says it's using : Gallium 0.4 on ATI RV515.
[16:23] <dontknow> ikonia, it is already partitioned with lvm and ubuntu sees volumes in installer
[16:23] <ikonia> dontknow: so this sounds like you are creating a problem, as ubuntu won't know about those volume groups post install unless you scan, activate and configure them
[16:23] <ikonia> dontknow: is there anything on this luks device already ?
[16:23] <ikonia> as in any data
[16:24] <dontknow> ikonia, yes. there is volume for my home, root and files
[16:24] <dontknow> home and root will be formatted
[16:24] <OerHeks> DirtyCajun, did you 'destroy' that zfs disk in your config? zfs destroy -f /path/bla/bla >> http://docs.oracle.com/cd/E19253-01/819-5461/gamnq/index.html
[16:25] <ikonia> dontknow: so technically it will work, although I suspect you're going to end up creating a problem
[16:25] <DirtyCajun> OerHeks: it was NEVER a zfs in the first place
[16:25] <dury> just install 14.04 through mini iso LXDE desktop environment old computer goes right. the point is to login automatically without typing the password
[16:25] <dontknow> ikonia, yeah that is what i am scare of
[16:25] <green_snow> some time ago I installed ubuntu on my pendrive, now I try to boot it, and my computer tells me: "No bootmgr found. Press any key to restart"
[16:25] <green_snow> is there any way to rescue it?
[16:26] <k1l_> RickyB98: what cpu is it?
[16:26] <bcardarella> ok, new issue: after I changed the server name to `dockyard@production` we have a script that was previously doing Node.connect(:"dockyard@127.0.0.1") and I updated those but now I get: "16:25:21.605 [error] ** System running to use fully qualified hostnames **   ** Hostname production is illegal **"
[16:26] <dontknow> green_snow, is it persistent install?
[16:26] <RickyB98> k1l_: no idea, it's an old computer..
[16:26] <green_snow> yes
[16:26] <RickyB98> intel centrino
[16:26] <green_snow> with casper-rw
[16:27] <RickyB98> intel inside centrino or something
[16:27] <k1l_> RickyB98: details matter here. can you boot a live usb?
[16:27] <RickyB98> i might, but i don't have one available atm
[16:27] <dury> I mean when I switch on the PC to go directly to LXDE desktop
[16:28] <RickyB98> but maybe it's just that the cpu is not x64
[16:28] <k1l_> RickyB98: because some old cpus are 32bit only. and some can run 64bit but they hide that. so details matter a lot
[16:28] <dury> is that autologin?
[16:28] <RickyB98> ah
[16:28] <RickyB98> well hang on i'll find the model on internet k1l_
[16:29] <OerHeks> dury, easy to disable, http://askubuntu.com/questions/182274/how-to-disable-autologin-in-lubuntu
[16:30] <green_snow> oh well... could this be caused by NTFS...?
[16:30] <RickyB98> k1l_: http://www.toshiba.it/discontinued-products/satellite-m60-166/
[16:31] <dury> OerHerks, it's not to disable, I guess it's to enable, isn't it?
[16:31] <OerHeks> dury, ??? i read hoto disable it ..
[16:31] <OerHeks> *howto
[16:33] <acebook> how can i run "service foo restart" without sudo
[16:33] <ikonia> you can't
[16:33] <RickyB98> k1l_: it might be intel pentium m750
[16:35] <dury> OerHerks, so... did u catch it what I want?
[16:36] <OerHeks> dury, you want no autologin, right?
[16:37] <fatkhur> selamat malam para master
[16:37] <somsip> !id | fatkhur
[16:38] <dury> OerHerks, no autologin 'cause when the computer starts it asks me the pwd
[16:38] <dury> OerHerks, see?
[16:39] <dury> OerHerks, sorry, I want autologin
[16:39] <OerHeks> dury, ah oke, then yes, that is the place to set it to autologin
[16:39] <OerHeks> and disable it if you need to
[16:40] <k1l_> RickyB98: no 64bit for that
[16:40] <RickyB98> alright
[16:40] <RickyB98> thanks :)
[16:41] <dury> OerHerks, autologin means switch the pc and goes straight to X environment, right?
[16:41] <k1l_> dury: the login-screen (lightdm) is alredy X
[16:41] <k1l_> *already
[16:41] <Redbeardt> Can someone help me safely eject my USB drive? This bloody mediscanner-exctractor and mediascanner-service-2.0 won't stop playing with it!
[16:42] <k1l_> dury: autologin means it doesnt ask for user and password but loads straight to the desktop from one user.
[16:42] <EriC^^> !find mediascanner-service-2.0
[16:42] <dury> right
[16:42] <EriC^^> Redbeardt: type lsblk, if none of the partitions are mounted then unplug it
[16:43] <Redbeardt> one is mounted
[16:43] <ThePendulum> I'm trying to enter unicode characters but ctrl + shift + U doesn't do anything, any ideas?
[16:43] <EriC^^> Redbeardt: sudo umount /dev/sdxY
[16:43] <dury> k1l_, right
[16:44] <Redbeardt> target is busy
[16:44] <Redbeardt> it says
[16:44] <EriC^^> Redbeardt: are you cd'd into it in any shell?
[16:44] <green_snow> any way to repair ubuntu boot loader under windows?
[16:44] <squinty> Redbeardt,  tried right clicking on usb icon -> eject parent drive
[16:44] <Redbeardt> nah
[16:44] <EriC^^> Redbeardt: try sudo lsof | grep /mountpoint
[16:44] <MoPac> Is there an Ubuntu/Launchpad project/package where I would file a GPU hang bug (Intel / i915 / drm)?  Or is that something that has to go upstream to the FreeDesktop.org tracker?
[16:44] <dury> k1l_, so configure it by gui and editing default.conf both ... ?
[16:45] <Redbeardt> 6 apps showed up
[16:45] <OerHeks> dury, no, ór the default.conf or the gui app, the app controls that default conf
[16:45] <Redbeardt> there's a lot of photos on the drive.. looks like it's doing something with them
[16:46] <Redbeardt> I wonder what would be the downside of killin this mediascanner-servie thing
[16:47] <lotuspsychje> Redbeardt: dont kill something too fast, investigate whats happening
[16:47] <dury> OerHerks, if the account type is administrator what's happen?
[16:47] <Redbeardt> Alright im having a dig about
[16:47] <dury> OerHerks, setup it as custom or what?
[16:47] <lotuspsychje> Redbeardt: tail -f /var/log/syslog or demsg might help perhaps?
[16:48] <lotuspsychje> *dmesg
[16:48] <effectnet> i just wanna view the free software in the software center
[16:49] <OerHeks> dury, 'administrator'  is the 1st account created during install, it has sudo priv., just keep it that way
[16:49] <Redbeardt> Oh there's a tonne of lines about 'com.canonical.MediaScanner2.Extractor' 'Extracting metadata from [photos on drive]'
[16:50] <Redbeardt> In syslog, that is
[16:50] <dury> OerHerks, see what I can do... the machine it's in other house... catch you later.... thanks indeed really appreciate it :-)
[16:50] <OerHeks> dury, have fun!
[16:53] <lotuspsychje> Redbeardt: ubuntu version?
[16:54] <Redbeardt> 16.04 LTS
[16:56] <lotuspsychje> Redbeardt: check if this bug is related: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mediascanner2/+bug/1294303
[16:56] <lotuspsychje> Redbeardt: if not, perhaps file a new bug
[16:57] <OerHeks> echo manual >> ~/.config/upstart/mediascanner-2.0.override   >>> http://askubuntu.com/questions/541928/how-to-disable-mediascanner-service
[16:58] <MonkeyDust> echo rtfm >>> http://askubuntu.com/questions/541928/how-to-disable-mediascanner-service
[17:06] <ThePendulum> I'm trying to enter unicode characters but ctrl + shift + U doesn't do anything, any ideas?
[17:11] <ice9> if sometimes nautilus is not detecting usb hd automatically or doesn't ask for it's decryption password; is there a service to restart without rebooting the pc?
[17:11] <OerHeks> ThePendulum, ctrl+shift+u, release, type code, then type space or enter, you will see the char appear
[17:13] <ThePendulum> OerHeks: could you give me a code that you are 100% certain works?
[17:13] <ThePendulum> because that's what I've been doing, it just types in the literal code
[17:13] <ThePendulum> no underlined u shows up either
[17:13] <OerHeks> 1254 1254
[17:13] <OerHeks> ቔ
[17:14] <ThePendulum> 1254
[17:14] <ThePendulum> that's it
[17:14] <albert_> 1254
[17:14] <albertofwb> test
[17:14] <ThePendulum> OerHeks: what input profile are you using?
[17:14] <albertofwb> I am in
[17:15] <OerHeks> usa with dead keys
[17:15] <albertofwb> by the default input profile
[17:15] <albertofwb> I never modify it
[17:15] <albertofwb> I found nothing new on ubuntu 16.04
[17:15] <ThePendulum> yeah I'm using US Int with dead keys as well
[17:16] <ThePendulum> I've never seen alt codes work
[17:16] <albertofwb> what time is it?
[17:17] <yacc> Curious, but can the Android Aquarius M10 be upgrade to Ubuntu Touch?
[17:18] <OerHeks> yacc, i think so, better reask in #ubuntu-touch
[17:18] <TJ-> ThePendulum: which Ctrl and Shift are you pressing? those on the left side of the keyboard?
[17:18] <vooze> Is there some way you can make the developers see a bug faster? I have reported it, and its been confirmed because 1 and 3 others are marked as affected.
[17:19] <OerHeks> TJ-, both sides work here fine, ctrl shift u, ehn the u appears, release, and type the 4 digit code + space
[17:19] <albertofwb> do you play games ?
[17:19] <TJ-> OerHeks: yes, usually they do but I've seen some keyboards that differentiate
[17:19] <ThePendulum> TJ-: oh, yes, is that wrong? am I wrong?
[17:20] <ThePendulum> not that the other ones work :P
[17:20] <squinty> fwiw both sides work here too
[17:21] <TJ-> ThePendulum: it was just an idea if you're seeing problems. Does your keyboard have a special function key, usually called Fn, to access alternate scan-codes?
[17:21] <ThePendulum> TJ-: it has a function key, yes
[17:21] <TJ-> ThePendulum: is it a USB keyboard?
[17:21] <ThePendulum> yes
[17:21] <ThePendulum> I could plug it into PS/2 I suppose
[17:21] <ThePendulum> I should point out that in my keyboard shortcut settings, Compose Key and Alternative Characters Key are disabled
[17:21] <OerHeks> ahh fn keyboard.
[17:21] <TJ-> ThePendulum: Run this and then see what codes are generated: "xev"
[17:22] <ThePendulum> quite a few
[17:22] <TJ-> Re-enable the Compose key
[17:22] <ThePendulum> what do I set it to?
[17:22] <TJ-> ha! i'd have to look... right-alt-gr I think? anyone know?
[17:23] <TJ-> ThePendulum: ahh, they're disabled on mine too, so ignore that idea
[17:23] <ThePendulum> hah
[17:24] <ThePendulum> I must've had this issue for years now, not sure if I even ever got them to work on windows
[17:24] <qqqqqs> join #techiechan
[17:24] <ThePendulum> I'm not sure if it's just something people tell me to mess with me
[17:24] <ThePendulum> like people telling you alt+f4 plays some music
[17:25] <TJ-> ThePendulum: I've used them for years on several OSs
[17:25] <ThePendulum> yeah right :P
[17:26] <TJ-> ê = right-alt-gr + ', release, then e
[17:27] <TJ-> ThePendulum: does the keyboard have any alternate mode keys, such as one that enables/disabled the F1-F12 keys to be those or some media fuctions? I've a logitech that does that, and the state of that toggle might affect this
[17:28] <ThePendulum> TJ-: it's almost fully programmable but it has nothing assigned that I know of
[17:28] <ThePendulum> it doesn't work with my previous dumber keyboards either
[17:28] <TJ-> ሴ that's on a Logitech USB keyboard, doing left Ctrl + shift + U, release, space
[17:28] <TJ-> ha.... release, 1234, space
[17:31] <x-fak> hi
[17:32] <x-fak> i'm running ubuntu under ARM64 arch on Odroid, the latest version of kodi i can install from apt-get install kodi = 15.2 is this normal i dont have the Kodi 16.1 from apt?
[17:33] <riqj> hello everyone, I'm copying files from hdd to a thumbdrive, and the process has taken abnormally long. what can be the reason?
[17:33] <MonkeyDust> x-fak  #ubuntu-arm
[17:33] <riqj> not only long but it's slowing down the computer, too
[17:34] <x-fak> MonkeyDust , ok i asked thank
[17:38] <x-fak> MonkeyDust , but they dont answer :)
[17:39] <MonkeyDust> x-fak  wait longer
[17:39] <ThePendulum> TJ-: you made me realize I don't own any keyboards without function keys anymore
[17:40] <ThePendulum> I have a really basic one downstairs, let me try that one
[17:40] <ThePendulum> I'd be surprised if that's causing issues though
[17:41] <wesleyotugo> Ubuntu gnome 16.04 keeps freezing
[17:42] <Sick_Rimmit> hi friends
[17:42] <fathomstory> Hey, I dualbooted two flavors of ubuntu, one version I can boot into okay, the other one loops into the boot screen when I type the user name and password. It shows me a command line type screen and just loops
[17:43] <Sick_Rimmit> hi friendsm10 tablet
[17:43] <Sick_Rimmit> connected to 53 inch plamsa
[17:43] <Sick_Rimmit> its awesome
[17:43] <wesleyotugo> Ubuntu gnome 16.04 keeps freezing
[17:44] <MonkeyDust> !details | wesleyotugo
[17:44] <fathomstory> I used bootrepairdisk and it says to create a bios boot partition, but i already did that
[17:45] <fathomstory> These are the times when Windows is far more stable than Linux and I hate windows
[17:46] <wesleyotugo> Freshly Installed Ubuntu 16.04 Gnome 3.18, Keeps freezing whenever i try to start an application. The mouse doesnt move so a hot reset is needed.
[17:46] <fathomstory> wesleyotugo, Let's try another distro
[17:46] <WoodyPC> fathomstory: Can you give me some info on why you had to use a bootrepairdisk?
[17:46] <fathomstory> Hey, I dualbooted two flavors of ubuntu, one version I can boot into okay, the other one loops into the boot screen when I type the user name and password. It shows me a command line type screen and just loops
[17:47] <wesleyotugo> I am coming over from opensuse, i really want to settle in ubuntu
[17:47] <k1l_> fathomstory: fresh installed? what to versions are they exactly?
[17:47] <wesleyotugo> fathomstory: Reinstall the one that loops again
[17:47] <fathomstory> Vanilla 'buntu and trisquel
[17:47] <k1l_> fathomstory: and what is not working? which version number?
[17:47] <fathomstory> wesleyotugo, oh for fug's sake
[17:48] <fathomstory> I was installing all weekend, it's freaking impossible to dualboot anythingoutside the windows/linux combo
[17:48] <fathomstory> The devil forbit you dare try linux/linux, linux/bsd or whatever
[17:48] <ThePendulum> never had issues
[17:49] <fathomstory> Smashes a laptop across the head of ThePendulum
[17:49] <k1l_> fathomstory: that is not right. please stick to the actual facts. i was asking for them
[17:49] <fathomstory> K1l Thise are the facts
[17:50] <k1l_> fathomstory: ok, since you are not interessted in actual ubuntu support please use another channel for your pointless rantings.
[17:50] <fathomstory> Freaking reinstalling endlessly
[17:50] <MonkeyDust> fathomstory  stop
[17:50] <fathomstory> There needs to be a better solution that 'reinstall',
[17:53] <k1l_> fathomstory: i asked for details so people in here can actually help you. but you keep beeing busy ranting.
[17:53] <fathomstory> k1l_, Okay, 16.04 for Ubuntu and 7.0 for Trisquel, sorry
[17:53] <k1l_> fathomstory: what is the exact issue with ubuntu 16.04 now?
[17:53] <fathomstory> k1l_, Lost my weekend installing
[17:54] <fathomstory> k1l_,  I dualbooted two flavors of ubuntu, one version I can boot into okay, the other one loops into the boot screen when I type the user name and password. It shows me a command line type screen and just loops
[17:54] <k1l_> trisquel is not a flavour of ubuntu. we cant support that.
[17:54] <fathomstory> Bwahaha
[17:55] <k1l_> so what is the exact issue of ubuntu 16.04?
[17:55] <WoodyPC> I typed this into the terminal: sudo lshw-gtk and it works...But right before it starts it shows this text on-screen: (lshw-gtk:4833): IBUS-WARNING **: The owner of /home/myname/.config/ibus/bus is not root!  What does this mean?
[17:55] <fathomstory> One is a GPL version of 'buntu, the other is proprietary and it is 16.04 that loops
[17:56] <fathomstory> Well, one is Libre and 'buntu 16.04 is not that Libre, but they're both 'buntu and use the same 'positories
[17:56] <k1l_> fathomstory: trisquel makes changes to ubuntu we dont know of. ask them for support their version.
[17:56] <k1l_> so what video card is it on that machine?
[17:56] <fathomstory> k1l_, So when some porr sod has issues dualbooting with Windows, you say the same? Lame
[17:57] <k1l_> fathomstory: ok you have been warned to stop that pointless rantings and offtopic. now you are muted. if you want that mute to be removed ask in #ubuntu-ops
[17:57] <mas886> So is there any way I can get good performance in games having an AMD GPU?
[17:57] <mas886> On 16.04 of course.
[17:58] <dontknow> mas886, i believe it depends on your gpu
[17:59] <vlt> Hello. What is a clean way as root on cli to log out a user?
[17:59] <dontknow> 16.04 only supports free driver
[17:59] <mas886> dontknow my gpu is a R9 280 which I had good performance with the flgrx drivers.
[17:59] <mas886> But with the open drivers it doesn't work well.
[17:59] <wesleyotugo> This is what caused the freezing
[17:59] <wesleyotugo> Apr 26 18:35:28 wesley-HP-Compaq-nw8240-PY442EA-ABB gnome-session[704]: (gnome-shell:1026): mutter-WARNING **: STACK_OP_RAISE_ABOVE: window 0x6901200015 not in stack
[18:00] <wesleyotugo> What do i do
[18:00] <Apachez> run
[18:00] <dontknow> mas886, that's all you got now. you can't install flgrx
[18:00] <k1l_> mas886: AMD stopped making fglrx. they make the amd_gpu kernel driver instead. and there is still radeon driver
[18:00] <mas886> Hmm okay. So by now there's nothing else I can do but wait right? k1l_ , dontknow
[18:01] <dontknow> mas886, right. or install 14.04
[18:01] <mas886> Ok
[18:02] <leonarth> what on earth is this process? can't find anything about it:
[18:02] <leonarth> root      3854  0.2  0.0    216    44 ?        S    13:45   0:02 ./x86_64
[18:03] <wesleyotugo> Is there even a support or is it just 1000 Bots
[18:04] <magento_rocks> where can i see the changelog for ubuntu 15.10?
[18:05] <magento_rocks> a recent update fucked up something, on all servers running 15.10
[18:05] <TJ-> leonarth: "sudo ls -l /proc/3854/*" might give you some additional avenues to find out... 'cat' the cmdline and comm nodes
[18:05] <TJ-> magento_rocks: package install history is in /var/log/apt/
[18:06] <TJ-> magento_rocks: specific package changelogs under /usr/share/doc/<package-name>/changelog*
[18:07] <magento_rocks> TJ- thanks
[18:08] <stacks88> im on 14.04. if i run apt-get dist-upgrade, it is not going to force me onto 16.04 right?  because i dont want to use 16.04 right now, i want to wait
[18:08] <TJ-> stacks88: correct
[18:08] <WoodyPC> Thanks to all here who helped in the decision of my new: 1gb GeForce 8400 GS video card. I installed this card yesterday and Finally in the "sound" options, the HDMI/Digital output option came up and now I have video and sound via HDMI on my tv. Thanks to all for the help.
[18:08] <stacks88> ok cool
[18:08] <magento_rocks> php5-common:amd64 (5.6.11+dfsg-1ubuntu3.1, 5.6.11+dfsg-1ubuntu3.2)
[18:08] <magento_rocks> that means it was upgrade from 3.1 to 3.2?
[18:08] <TJ-> stacks88: dist-upgrade / full-upgrade just means that it will replace older versioned packages with completely new versions if they're available, just as for kernel upgrades
[18:09] <TJ-> magento_rocks: yes, and the changelog contains headings that match each version
[18:10] <magento_rocks> ok great.  now i just need to "downgrade" to 3.1
[18:12] <TJ->  magento_rocks apt-get install php5=5.6.11+dfsg-1ubuntu3.1 or similar... probably need to list all the php5* packages that were upgraded, and suffix them with the exact version you want
[18:12] <magento_rocks> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/php5/5.6.11+dfsg-1ubuntu3.2  - the SOAP Client update is causing OOM errors
[18:12] <magento_rocks> thanks for your help TJ-, i appreciate it
[18:17] <TJ-> magento_rocks: I've added a report bug 1575298  you may want to add some specifics to that to help the developers fix it
[18:19] <magento_rocks> thanks!  a co-worker traced the failure -- says it is occuring just after the lines patched in php_http.c - line 842
[18:20] <TJ-> magento_rocks: add that info please, that will accelerate the fix
[18:20] <alyyy> got a question on firewalls with ufw. For some reason it's blocking broadcast packets on a particular port, even though it's explicitly allowed. does ufw like blocking broadcast packets by default or something?
[18:20] <magento_rocks> will do
[18:23] <newjersey> 500 error message at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[18:23] <newjersey> or I guess https://help.ubuntu.com/community in general
[18:24] <WoodyPC> TJ: How do you fill out a bug report? I mean what program in ubuntu14.04lts 64bit do I open in order to do that?
[18:24] <OerHeks> !bug
[18:25] <TJ-> WoodyPC: I usually do it manually from the luanchpad web site, but if you have a bug occuring and have a local crash file you can run "ubuntu-bug" (see man ubuntu-bug")
[18:25] <WoodyPC> ok
[18:25] <DJones> newjersey: Looks like a website issue, just reported it to the ubuntu website team
[18:25] <newjersey> thanks DJones
[18:26] <erasmus> anyone use firewire or thunderbolt to transfer files from a mac to a linux box?
[18:26] <newjersey> nope
[18:26] <DJones> newjersey: Maybe give it an hour and then retry
[18:26] <erasmus> I can't really find any info online about it
[18:27] <erasmus> I can see how it's done on the mac side but very little is said about it on the linux side
[18:27] <newjersey> how would that work?
[18:27] <seoushi> Hi, I'm trying to ssh into my home machine with X11 forwarding. Which seems to work however most of the programs just segfault. when I do an strace it's seems that it's having an issue loading libGLX_indirect.so.0. Any ideas?
[18:27] <erasmus> newjersey me?
[18:27] <erasmus> I have an i7 running ubuntu with thunderbolt and a mbp with thunderbolt
[18:28] <erasmus> just want to get them to talk to each other
[18:28] <erasmus> mostly for backing up data
[18:28] <newjersey> yes, but you'd need to set up a server on one machine and sort of have a shared folder?
[18:28] <MonkeyDust> what mbp and thunderbolt?
[18:28] <MonkeyDust> what's mbp and thunderbolt?
[18:29] <newjersey> would it be easier to set up a ftp server on the ubuntu machine?
[18:29] <erasmus> macbookpro
[18:29] <erasmus> yeah but will they see each other
[18:29] <erasmus> I know I can do it in taarget disk mode on the mac
[18:29] <newjersey> if they're connected to the same router
[18:29] <erasmus> but I don't want to have to do that
[18:29] <erasmus> it would be a direct connection
[18:29] <erasmus> no ethernet
[18:29] <erasmus> too slow
[18:30] <erasmus> I guess thunderbolt and linux aren't really there yet
[18:31] <newjersey> erasmus, how would you authenticate on the mac from ubuntu?
[18:31] <newjersey> how does this work between two macs?
[18:31] <erasmus> I'd just ssh
[18:31] <erasmus> scp
[18:31] <erasmus> ideally rsync
[18:32] <newjersey> I just found this https://support.apple.com/kb/PH19021?locale=en_US which is crap
[18:33] <TJ-> erasmus: you can network over IEE1394, probably the same for thunderbolt but never investigated that
[18:33] <vlt> Hello. What is a clean way as root on cli to log out a user?
[18:34] <bluebirch> vlt: pkill -u username
[18:35] <bluebirch> vlt: although perhaps not that very clean :-)
[18:35] <vlt> bluebirch: Thank you!
[18:41] <DJones> newjersey: Looks like the website is back up and working ok
[18:41] <newjersey> woot
[18:42] <yonis> hai
[18:49] <ThePendulum> Does anyone know why Ctrl + Shift + U is not getting me into unicode mode?
[18:49] <opwallin> has any one idea why postfix try send always to use port 25
[18:50] <lotuspsychje> opwallin: the #ubuntu-server guys might know that one
[18:50] <opwallin> ok i change channel
[18:51] <nacc> opwallin: that's the default smtp port, iirc
[18:54] <opwallin> macc what is 587 is then ?
[18:54] <sebsebseb>  
[18:57] <MonkeyDust> opwallin  less /etc/services
[18:59] <opwallin> just smtp and urd in 465
[19:02] <_ryanv_> I
[19:05] <lotuspsychje> reisio: found it in ccsm/expo/apearance/incative viewports http://imgur.com/GnbxATe tnx again!
[19:06] <reisio> lotuspsychje: workspace dark/light thing?
[19:06] <reisio> gj
[19:06] <lotuspsychje> reisio: yes, got them all 4 to 100%
[19:06] <reisio> nice
[19:06] <reisio> hoorah for configurable free/open source software, what what
[19:07] <lotuspsychje> reisio: and while i was there, got wobbly windows aswell and got a perfect xenial now
[19:08] <reisio> yeah, lot of cute unnecessary things compiz supports :p
[19:08] <lotuspsychje> lol
[19:08] <reisio> even a heap of things they don't even official support anymore
[19:08] <reisio> cubemodel atlantis tile fakeargb elements snow mswitch
[19:09] <lotuspsychje> reisio: found  the extra bunch in compiz-plugins-extras
[19:09] <reisio> I think 'tile' is the exposé clone? That one's almost useful
[19:09] <reisio> there's compiz-plugins-unsupported, too
[19:09] <reisio> but it's harder to acquire
[19:09] <bviktor> how do i make a make an unmanaged device managed with nmcli?
[19:09] <reisio> and probably less missed :p
[19:10] <reisio> managed?
[19:10] <bviktor> yup
[19:10] <reisio> don't you just configure it at all with nm?
[19:10] <bviktor> i would
[19:10] <bviktor> except
[19:10] <reisio> and then nm is controlling it like a zombie overlord
[19:10] <bviktor> Error: Failed to add/activate new connection: Connection 'ens5f0' is not available on the device ens5f0 at this time.
[19:10] <bviktor> ens5f0      ethernet  unmanaged    --
[19:10] <reisio> is it in ls -Al /sys/class/net/ ?
[19:10] <bviktor> GENERAL.STATE:                          10 (unmanaged)
[19:11] <bviktor> it is
[19:11] <bviktor> i assume this is because previously it was managed via /etc/network/interfaces
[19:11] <TJ-> magento_rocks: Marc (security team) is publishing a fix now, keep an eye on the bug there'll be a package to test
[19:12] <reisio> oh my, uhhhh
[19:12] <reisio> nature has sent me a coffee telegram, brb :p
[19:12] <bviktor> on another comp i just removed the relevant config from /etc/network/interfaces, restarted networking.service, set it up via networkmanager, and that's it
[19:12] <bviktor> but here it just won't work
[19:14] <bviktor> duh
[19:15] <bviktor> i restarted the networkmanager service *before* removing the crap from /etc/network/interfaces so it assumed that interface is still managed via that file
[19:16] <bviktor> alright i think it's all good now
[19:16] <pedrito> nice
[19:18] <inocuous> in my ubunto the balloon notifications are being displayed in a linear fashion, mean one at a time is displayed until all are shown on screen. I need this to be more real time as they actually occur. Anyone have any feedback on this?
[19:18] <SvenBo> hi
[19:18] <inocuous> hi
[19:19] <SvenBo> Just testint the XChat App on my Ubuntu tablet.
[19:19] <bviktor> hexchat ftw!
[19:19] <inocuous> hexchat is great
[19:19] <inocuous> is xchat still being supported and developed?
[19:19] <vexare> why doesnt upstart properly work on lts 16?
[19:19] <zykotick9> inocuous: nope...
[19:19] <ioria> !info xchat
[19:19] <ioria> nope
[19:19] <vexare> it boots to terminal
[19:19] <pedrito> xchat is replaced by hexchat
[19:20] <inocuous> that's what I thought.
[19:20] <SvenBo> Does anyone know when notifications in Dekko will work?
[19:20] <vexare> i get a working desktop by login and startx
[19:20] <pedrito> inocuous: notifications for what?
[19:20] <SvenBo> For new mails.
[19:21] <inocuous> are they not all handled by one app in the OS pedrito ?
[19:21] <pedrito> xchat's developer became insane, the free software world has no tolerance for that, requires no tolerance for that
[19:21] <cmb_> inocuous, or you could try xchat-gnome
[19:21] <vexare> so is there any way to fix upstart booting?
[19:21] <pedrito> inocuous: they are, but if you were more clear, you could get better help
[19:22] <ioria> xchat-gnome is not xchat :°°°(
[19:22] <lotuspsychje> !touch | SvenBo
[19:22] <DJones> inocuous: Looks like xchat hasn't been update since 2010
[19:22] <inocuous> I don't know how to be more clear. the notifications are displayed one at a time, after a certain amojnt of time they clear and then the next one appears.
[19:22] <Bashing-om> vexare: There is no "upstart" in 16.04 ... it is systemd as the control authoruty .
[19:22] <teward> inocuous: use hexchat.
[19:23] <Yxhuvud> ok, so after upgrade to 16.04 I get redirected back to the login screen after typing my password.  Does anyone have a suggestion for where to look for errors?
[19:23] <teward> (and not xchat)
[19:23] <pedrito> inocuous: which should be fine ordinarily, so again, can you elaborate?
[19:23] <inocuous> I'm in hexchat already. big fan. I like it a lot.
[19:23] <Yxhuvud> login to console only works fine.
[19:23] <vexare> Bashing-om: you can switch and there's an official guide
[19:23] <pedrito> Yxhuvud: grep EE /var/log/X*log
[19:23] <vexare> it's just half broken
[19:24] <inocuous> It's just that where there are a lot of notifications it can be a long time after the event that the notification appears.
[19:24] <vexare> on ubuntu 15 it was fine
[19:24] <lotuspsychje> Yxhuvud: sudo service lightdm restart doing something?
[19:24] <Bashing-om> vexare: :) .. good to know .
[19:24] <lotuspsychje> !info hexchat-indicator | inocuous
[19:24] <vexare> the bug is reported but it's been 4 days and no fix
[19:24] <le_pig> lol
[19:25] <Yxhuvud> lotus: nope.
[19:25] <lotuspsychje> Yxhuvud: tried entering desktop on nomodeset or recoverymode/failsafeX?
[19:25] <Yxhuvud> pedrito: ah. failed to init glx due to no drivers found
[19:26] <pedrito> inocuous: for hexchat? I honestly always disable balloons, and use the task bar color indicator
[19:26] <pedrito> less annoying
[19:26] <pedrito> Yxhuvud: make sure that's from the very last-made log file in that for, also
[19:28] <inocuous> ubottu: thans for that, I'll have to google to fully understand it.
[19:28] <itechweb> hi
[19:29] <pedrito> hi
[19:29] <Yxhuvud> ok, login works after purging nvidia. Now to get it back again, but that I can manage. thanks
[19:29] <pedrito> :)
[19:31] <de-facto> Yxhuvud if you want propietary nvidia try the nvidia-340
[19:32] <YourMomIsUgly> Hello
[19:32] <pedrito> the correct nvidia version will vary by device
[19:32] <pedrito> hi ymiu
[19:33] <YourMomIsUgly> Oh shit
[19:33] <YourMomIsUgly> I got banned from #gentoo
[19:34] <pedrito> :p
[19:34] <YourMomIsUgly> just for telling someone that their mon sucks cocks
[19:35] <pedrito> YourMomIsUgly: you'd think people would know that already
[19:36] <DJones> YourMomIsUgly: Thats not something we need to know, please stay on topic - Ubuntu support only here
[19:36] <YourMomIsUgly> DJones: okay
[19:36] <YourMomIsUgly> what is the best linux based web browser to surf porn on ubuntu?
[19:37] <pedrito> firefox
[19:37] <jimmy_> firefox with adblock
[19:37] <pedrito> yes
[19:37] <pedrito> and flashblock
[19:38] <pedrito> also good for ordinary browsing
[19:39] <hgth> How can I free space on /? My /home is on another partition.
[19:40] <Rave1> hgth:  uninstall  programs you dont need
[19:41] <pedrito> hgth: don't unnecessary have multiple partitions next time
[19:41] <wieurywi> hgth: sudo apt-get autoclean
[19:41] <lotuspsychje> hgth: bleachbit your system
[19:41] <wieurywi> hgth: sudo apt-get autoremove
[19:42] <nairwolf> hi, Is someone here has already tried to write chinese on Ubuntu ? What do you use ? fcitx ?
[19:42] <cmb_> hgth, possibly 'sudo apt-get autoremove' if you've got old kernel versions on there (eg if the partition has been used for a while and you've installed updates when they've become available). Or, uninstall programs you don't need. And check whether any logging is filling up your / with anything. Something like 15Gb-20Gb should be plenty.0
[19:43] <jimmy_> hgth try apt-get purge [package_name]
[19:43] <lotuspsychje> nairwolf: perhaps try an ubuntu chinese channel?
[19:43] <cmb_> Sorry, autoclean, not autoremove
[19:44] <nairwolf> which one lotuspsychje ?
[19:44] <lotuspsychje> !zh | nairwolf
[19:44] <nairwolf> oh, thanks ;)
[19:44] <nairwolf> I was looking for something like #ubuntu-kylin but there isn't people...
[19:44] <nairwolf> Thanks lotuspsychje ;)
[19:45] <lotuspsychje> nairwolf: welcome :p
[19:46] <theKingBaby> hello
[19:46] <pedrito> hi
[19:46] <hgth> cmb_: How would I find unnecessary logs?
[19:47] <wieurywi> hgth: try sudo apt-get install ncdu
[19:47] <hgth> wieurywi: But I’m trying to get rid of software ;)
[19:47] <wieurywi> hgth: browse /var/log for old syslog.0 or .1 ..etc. dmesg.0 logs
[19:47] <theKingBaby> I just used a live ubuntu disk with gparted to delete all my partitions so i could start again (had errors in windows, wanted to upgrade linux also)
[19:48] <theKingBaby> I'm wondering what should I do when I have deleted all partitions..
[19:48] <cmb_> hgth, what wieurywi said!
[19:48] <theKingBaby> leave it all unformatted + deleted (no file system?) , put in windows recovery *first* and format ntfs and then let ubuntu create dual boot with grub etc
[19:49] <cmb_> Also: "cd /;sudo du -csh *' will show you where on your root partition the space is being used, and you can investigate why a lot is in one place or another...
[19:50] <theKingBaby> or make a specfici windows partition now and install windows into it
[19:51] <jimmy_> theKingBaby: If you deleted the whole partition there is not mutch you can do. I suggest if that is possible to reinstall everything. I don't see any guarantee on getting your data back intact if that is what you are worryed about
[19:52] <jimmy_> *worried
[19:53] <jimmy_> Remember First, install windows because it assumes he is the only OS on the computer, ahd only after that you install linux
[19:54] <theKingBaby> no no, i dont care about the data, backed up everything important. Deleted the drives on purpose
[19:54] <theKingBaby> yeah okay thats what i was thinking was the best route, thanks jimmy_
[19:54] <theKingBaby> so should i leave it all 'deleted'/unformatted or format it to ntfs now?
[19:54] <theKingBaby> i have created windows recovery media already
[19:55] <terratoma> how can i customize the splash screen in the boot menu used by the Ubuntu server iso ( not Desktop )
[19:55] <jimmy_> You can format it to ntfs iw you wanted to, but i guess windows installer will see a large chunk of unformatted space, so it will give you the option of partitioning. Then again I do not use windows!
[19:56] <jimmy_> I would go with this: Create all partitions in gparted, then install windows on one of them
[19:57] <theKingBaby> okay i will do that then
[19:57] <theKingBaby> thanks bro
[19:57] <jimmy_> Good luck!
[19:58] <jimmy_> anytime :)
[19:58] <hgth> Thanks for all your advice!
[19:58] <theKingBaby> oh one more thing
[19:58] <theKingBaby> primary/extended partitions
[20:00] <llusato> Good night! I have just installed Ubuntu 16.04 and enablea Ubuntu Firewall ufw typing sudo ufw enable. After startup the ufw is disabled I type sudo ufw status and it is disabled. What can I do in order to get ufw enabled after computer startup? Many thanks in advance :)
[20:00] <vitimiti> llusato, have you tried "sudo systemctl enable ufw"?
[20:00] <vitimiti> And "sudo systemctl start ufw" so as to start it
[20:01] <llusato> No what is the difference with sudo ufw enable? Many thanks! :) I'm gonna try it!
[20:02] <jimmy_> theKingBaby: I suggest this reading https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DualBoot/Partitions
[20:02] <OerHeks> llusato, easy way is to install gufw, the gui for ufw, you will find it in systemsettings ( unless you run server
[20:03] <vitimiti> llusato, systemctl is the new init system, it's that simple. But yeah, gufw will help you more, specially since it's integrated with the system settings
[20:03] <llusato> yes I have already installed gufw I enable it but after startup it is disabled
[20:05] <OerHeks> odd, that does not happen here, once set with gufw, it starts auto
[20:06] <OerHeks> systemctl status ufw
[20:07] <llusato> ● ufw.service - Uncomplicated firewall    Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/ufw.service; enabled; vendor preset: enab    Active: active (exited) since dt 2016-04-26 21:50:42 CEST; 16min ago  Main PID: 232 (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS)     Tasks: 0 (limit: 512)    CGroup: /system.slice/ufw.service
[20:09] <vitimiti> llusato, then it's enabled right now
[20:09] <ubet> can someone tell me how i can prevent all HDD's from automounting without preventing usb's from automounting
[20:10] <vitimiti> llusato, do "sudo systemctl enable ufw" to make sure, it won't fail like that (I hope)
[20:10] <ubet> or point me to a good article?
[20:10] <llusato> ok. I have already done it. Can I try to reboot the computer now to check if it is fixed?
[20:12] <ubet> I have like 24 HDD that I dont want to see, but i do want other media to be detected after i plug it in
[20:13] <vitimiti> llusato, yeah, try it
[20:14] <llusato> Ok many thanks! Cross fingers! :) Bye! :)
[20:15] <nacc> ubet: per https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount/USB it's not clear how to control it more finely, but youc an disable general automounting with dconf editor
[20:15] <frostschutz> ubet, create fstab noauto entries for them?
[20:15] <nacc> ubet: you might look into one of the alternative programs mentioned there for maybe a more customizable option than Gnome's general support
[20:16] <OerHeks> ubet, mounted partitions in /media/ show up, mount them in /mnt/ >> http://askubuntu.com/a/180677
[20:16] <OerHeks> ugly but not that harmfull
[20:17] <ubet> ok i'll read through that.
[20:19] <user7778> Hi, I have a crash of the session (and I'm brought back to the login screen) randomly, apparently related with the use/presence of Telegram official client. But I'm not sure it is related.
[20:20] <llusato> Hello! I have just asked you to enable ufw after startup. I have typed sudo systemclt start ufw and sudo systemctl enable ufw. Checked it was enabled but after startaup it is not enable! Do you have any solution to this issue? Many thanks in advance! :)
[20:22] <precise> Hey guys, I installed Google Earth x64 on my 14.04.4 LTS install...now my touch pad doesn't work... Any ideas?
[20:22] <Hawkeye091543> Hello, would anyone be able to help me troubleshoot suspend on a Razer Blade laptop?
[20:22] <Ex0r> Hmm, would removing apparmor from a ubuntu server 14.04 install 'cause the system to not bootup?
[20:23] <precise> Here is a list of dependencies it requires: Here is a list of dependencies I had to install to get it running at 64bit: http://pastebin.com/U60Gd7fu
[20:23] <Ex0r> In an attempt to try out ISPConfig3 on my server, the installation instructions directed me to remove AppArmor, and now my system halts on startup, and I am wondering if AppArmor not being present is the cause of it.
[20:24] <Ex0r> and if it is, can I just use apt-get install apparmor apparmor_profiles and restore it
[20:40] <jinette> hello everyone, my internet connection was gone when I was downloading files from server via filezilla. now I reconnected but the connection has naturally been cut off. how can I reconnect without resetting the transfer, that is, continue from where it was stopped?
[20:40] <jinette> I mean, the transfer has been cut off
[20:40] <teward> jinette: I don't think Filezilla provides that type of functionality
[20:41] <jinette> teward, that I fear, too
[20:42] <jinette> just as I said that, filezilla resumed transfer by itself. so no action is needed to be taken in such cases
[20:43] <llusato> I have been talking to ubuntu webchat in freenode before to try to solve the problem with ufw not enabling after startup. I typed sudo systemctl start ufw and sudo systemctl enable ufw and after reboot ufw is disabled. What can I do to fix this situation and getting ufw enabled after startup automatically?
[20:45] <llusato> Many thanks. :)
[20:45] <alyyy> llusato, what version of ubunutu are you on?  I usually run "sudo ufw enable" and everything works fine.  you can look in /etc/ufw/ufw.conf and set ENABLED to "yes" to force it I would think?
[20:45] <llusato> 16.04
[20:45] <alyyy> I'm using an older version of ubuntu so some of that might not apply :p
[20:46] <llusato> I have already done this. Thanks alyyy :)
[20:46] <llusato> I have also tried sudo ufw enable but did not fix it
[20:47] <alyyy> llusato, no worries! will it run when you start it up manually? like it's not choking on the config before it starts, right?
[20:48] <llusato> Do you mean if I start up ufw manually if it works? yes manually is enabled but not automatically after reboot
[20:49] <alyyy> anything unusual in the logs?
[20:49] <llusato> how can I see it the logs?
[20:49] <llusato> sorry but I'm quite new on this ;)
[20:51] <dannymichel> I'm able to connect to my time capsule using //10.0.1.1/Data /media/timecapsule  cifs... in fstab, but im not sure where to begin to connect to the hard drive that's actually connected to the time capsule. on windows, it auto-finds the harddrive connected to the time capsule. Any ideas?
[20:52] <alyyy> llusato, I'm actually not super sure? older ubuntus you can run this: "less /var/log/ufw.log", but I think you need to use the "journalctl" command.  try "journalctl ufw".
[20:53] <alyyy> sorry I'm not more help, I don't have 16 installed yet ;)
[20:57] <yaomtc> UNetbootin offers an option to preserve files across reboots, but it says "Ubuntu only". Does anyone know if that applies to variants like Lubuntu, too?
[20:58] <tgm4883> yaomtc: it should
[20:58] <llusato> Hi I have typed journalctl |grep ufw and I got this:
[20:58] <llusato> abr 26 22:17:13 lluis-Inspiron-3521 sudo[2130]:    lluis : TTY=pts/0 ; PWD=/home/lluis ; USER=root ; COMMAND=/usr/sbin/ufw status abr 26 22:17:23 lluis-Inspiron-3521 polkitd(authority=local)[978]: Operator of unix-session:1 successfully authenticated as unix-user:lluis to gain ONE-SHOT authorization for action com.ubuntu.pkexec.gufw for unix-process:2260:7967 [/bin/sh /usr/bin/gufw] (owned by unix-user:lluis) abr 26 22:17:23 lluis-I
[20:59] <yaomtc> thanks tgm4883
[20:59] <llusato> abr 26 22:18:04 lluis-Inspiron-3521 gnome-session[1573]: (gnome-software:1869): Gs-WARNING **: gufw.desktop changing management plugin apt->PackageKit
[21:00] <llusato> abr 26 22:17:23 lluis-Inspiron-3521 pkexec[2282]: lluis: Executing command [USER=root] [TTY=unknown] [CWD=/home/lluis] [COMMAND=/usr/bin/gufw-pkexec lluis]
[21:01] <llusato> There is a warning in the logs
[21:03] <inocuous> I got the sound back I think.
[21:05] <dbz2k> what the way to kubuntu desktop on ubuntu 16.04 without too much bloat?
[21:05] <reisio> dbz2k: install kde packs explicitly, rather than with kubuntu-desktop metapackage
[21:06] <reisio> also, you could disable apt recommends
[21:06] <reisio> but the question in general is a wee bit silly :D
[21:06] <reisio> KDE is practically the epitome of bloat
[21:06] <reisio> only rivalled by GNOME
[21:06] <dbz2k> lol but one time I installed another desktop on ubuntu it messed up everything
[21:07] <reisio> no, it just doubled your packages is all
[21:07] <reisio> so your menus would naturally become messy and doubled and bloated
[21:07] <llusato> alvyyy any suggestion about this logs
[21:08] <reisio> I think I've used dpkg -r --force-all ubuntu-desktop; apt-get install xubuntu-desktop; apt-get autoremove in the past, for example, to switch from ubuntu-desktop to xubuntu-desktop
[21:08] <reisio> worked out alright, IIRC
[21:10] <llusato> Is there anyone that can help me with this? Many thanks
[21:10] <teward> llusato: help you with... what?
[21:11] <llusato> I enable firewall but after computer startup it is not enabled I have tried many thinks but the problem is still present...
[21:11] <llusato> can you help me with this? Many thanks in advance! :)
[21:11] <user7778> hi, I need help with session crashing randomly (think related to lightdm) on Lubuntu, can somebody help? thanks
[21:13] <hecatae> help?
[21:13] <hecatae> server irc?
[21:14]  * hecatae tries joining #ubuntuserver
[21:15] <TLF> Hello, when upgrading from 15.10 to 16.04 I have a problem in package "pytone": http://paste.ubuntu.com/16071211/ what can I do?
[21:16] <user7778> llusato: I know it is not the best way to solve your problem, but could help using a script on startup to launch the firewall?
[21:17] <llusato> user7778 I prefer a clean solution this is not a good way to solve it is not it?
[21:18] <llusato> do you have any idea why is it happening?
[21:18] <user7778> No, clearly it isn't :)
[21:19] <user7778> No, I'm trying to figure it out...
[21:19] <macskay> hi guys im having trouble with a jvm. when starting a sprng application i get a "failed to write core dump." and it suggets setting "ulimit -c unlimited". I've done that and even rebooted but the error persists.
[21:19] <llusato> ok
[21:19] <llusato> take your time... :)
[21:21] <bobby_> hi, does anyone here have this problem in Xenial, randomly while I'm using my OS, the interface completely logs off and sends me back to the logon screen what gives?
[21:22] <k1l> bobby_: that sounds like your xserver crashing. i would look into the syslog and Xorg.0.log in /var/log/
[21:23] <reisio> bobby_: mmm, is it always after a certain interval? of inactivity?
[21:23] <bobby_> well it's usually when I'm multitasking
[21:25] <bobby_> see it just happened again!
 bobby_: that sounds like your xserver crashing. i would look into the syslog and Xorg.0.log in /var/log/
[21:25] <k1l> and look into the .xsession-errors in your users home
[21:25] <Dagda> Hey. I did a fresh install of 16.04 but have run into an issue at login. My kb doesn't load properly and no modifiers or function keys are available. Everything is fine during install but this happens on first boot after install. I tried to reinstall 3x but couldn't resolve it, so I reverted back to a fresh install of 14.04. Now I have the same problem with 14.04. I've never seen this before and can't find a solution anywhere. Any suggestions?
[21:25] <bobby_> what exactly is an xserver?
[21:26] <k1l> bobby_: the programs that runs all the gui with the video drivers.
[21:26] <reisio> X is the base of a Unixy desktop environment
[21:26] <reisio> all the GUI stuff you see
[21:26] <reisio> it has a client/server model
[21:26] <reisio> will be replaced by wayland eventually, and then probably something else after that
[21:26] <reisio> death & birth, rinse & repeat
[21:27] <bobby_> oh ok
[21:27] <bobby_> so maybe even if I upgraded my gui it could help?
[21:27] <bobby_> I was thinking about installing enlightenment
[21:28] <k1l> ok. so you dont want to see the cause and fix that. so good luck with installing and reinstalling random stuff.
[21:28] <b-yeezi> Dagda: have you checked your keyboard layout in settings?
[21:28] <bobby_> k1l: I do ok?
[21:28] <bobby_> k1l: brb
[21:30] <bronsen> aptitude informs me of updates, but I cannot view their changelog: http://nrrd.de/y-u-no-changelog.png  How log does it usually take for changelog to be propagated to the mirrors?
[21:31] <Dagda> Yes, to clarify, if I go to BIOS, all my keys are available. If I load a Live OS, all my keys are available. This only appears to happen at login. NUM LOCK, CAPS, Shift etc. just stop working, meaning that I can't type in my PW. I've tried changing settings with the Live OS but same happens again. I assumed it was an issue with 16.04 but not so it seems. BIOS settings seem fine too.
[21:31] <bobby_> so what should I be looking for in syslog, x.org errors?
[21:31] <k1l> bronsen: what package?
[21:32] <k1l> bronsen: btw, that ip is down for me, too
[21:32] <user7778> llusato: sorry, i can't find any solution for your problem :/ but I'm starting to think it is not related with the warning
[21:32] <b-yeezi> it might be the auto-detect of keyboard during install is not doing it right
[21:33] <macskay> anybody had a similar issue before?
[21:33] <user7778> llusato:sure there is someone with way more knowledge than me
[21:33] <k1l> bobby_: for issues with your video driver or with the xserver
[21:33] <bronsen> k1l: apt, dpkg, debootstrap, firefox, libmysqlclient, tzdata; other packages' changelog can be found (libpcre, libsnmp, linux-firmware, python-setproctitle)
[21:33] <Dagda> Possibly, but I'm using the same install image for 14.04 I've used multiple times in the past without issue, and I've used this 16.04 image to install to a VM on my Mac and to another laptop without issues. I'm at a total loss...
[21:33] <llusato> ok how can I contact he or she?
[21:34] <k1l> bronsen: what ubuntu is that exactly?
[21:34] <bobby_> k1l: org.gtk.vfs.Daemon[13336]: ??
[21:35] <bobby_> I don't see any x.org issues in the log
[21:35] <k1l> bobby_: depends on the exact errormessage
[21:35] <llusato> Ok user7778 many thanks for your help I think now it's time to sleep I'll try to ask again the same question tomorrow... good night! :)
[21:36] <bobby_> ok I need to go read up on what you told me k1l thanks for your input guys
[21:36] <beejay> hello, looking 2 days for solution, i made usb with 16.04 with usb-creator in 15.10; my usb pendrive is write-protected
[21:36] <user7778> llusato: as you see I'm here like you to discuss a problem, unfortunately I don't know who could help you better... goodnight and good luck for tomorrow! :)
[21:36] <llusato> thanks! Bye! :)
[21:37] <bronsen> k1l: I am on 14.04.4; according to "apt-cache profile" package dpkg would be updated from de.archive.ubuntu.com (trusty-updates) or security.ubuntu.com (trusty-security)
[21:37] <bronsen> h not profile
[21:37] <bronsen> err policy it is
[21:37] <bronsen> been using aliases for too long :)
[21:39] <beejay> any method to take off write-protection?
[21:39] <k1l> bronsen: the new pacakge is referencing http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/d/dpkg/dpkg_1.17.5ubuntu5.6/changelog while there is only a dpkg_1.17.5ubuntu5.5 on the changelogs server
[21:40] <b-yeezi> beejay: what are you trying to do? save data to the thumbdrive as you use it?
[21:41] <user7778> someone who has the patience to troubleshoot an Xserver log?
[21:41] <beejay> i want to have live usb and copy my data to it to
[21:42] <b-yeezi> If so, use Ubuntu's Startup disk creator to make the usb
[21:43] <b-yeezi> You can say how much space you want to use as the persistent drive
[21:43] <beejay> i did, but i have 2 partitions and usb write protected, so i can not write, make another partition
[21:43] <beejay> it is 32gb, i need around 12gb
[21:44] <beejay> also gparted is showing errors about thumbdrive and that partitions cover each other
[21:45] <b-yeezi> You might need to redo the USB
[21:45] <bronsen> k1l: do you know how it usually takes for changelogs to appear?
[21:45] <beejay> i can only make new partition table, nothing else
[21:45] <k1l> bronsen: here is the changelog: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dpkg/1.17.5ubuntu5.6   i dont know why the changelog server got issues. i asked the admins.
[21:45] <b-yeezi> Are you using msdos version of partition table?
[21:45] <beejay> i tried different tools - dd, mkusb - same results
[21:45] <bronsen> k1l: ah! I hadn't thought of looking at LP, thanks for the pointer!
[21:46] <beejay> i guess startup disk creator is making partition table
[21:47] <b-yeezi> yes. I'm about to do it now.  I'll let you know
[21:48] <bronsen> although in this case I read the diff to mean "replace return by exit" and not what the changelog suggests "replace exit by return"
[21:48] <beejay> it is showing in gparted mac type partition table
[21:49] <b-yeezi> There is no option to make a persistent partition in 16.04!
[21:49] <beejay> and error about block size
[21:50] <beejay> i actually do not need persistent partition
[21:50] <beejay> i want to use rest of thumbdrive to copy data
[21:50] <de-facto> beejay i made a usb with startup-disk-creator on an usb, that works but gparted just shows rubbish nonsense
[21:51] <de-facto> it worked for installing from usb stick though
[21:51] <beejay> de-facto - my usb is working, but it is useless for other things
[21:51] <de-facto> yup
[21:52] <b-yeezi> I'm working on it. dd may be a better solution
[21:53] <beejay> any solution to remove write-protection; in windows you can change sth in registry, i have no windows
[21:53] <beejay> i tried dd - same result
[21:54] <beejay> like sth in iso making thumbdrive write-protected
[21:54] <k1l> beejay: the live-OS is just mounted read-only. you cant change that that easy. that is the idea behind the live os.
[21:54] <k1l> beejay: so what you want is an "persistence" install.
[21:55] <beejay> i read all the stroy about change in disk creator, no more persistence
[21:55] <beejay> i do not need persistance, i need usb with live ubuntu and place to backup data
[21:56] <beejay> i can do it on another partition
[21:56] <beejay> but i can not create it because it is write protected
[21:57] <b-yeezi> You cannot add it to the iso partition. You need to make another partition
[21:57] <b-yeezi> The ISO9660 standard filesystem is read-only
[21:58] <beejay> i can not create another partition because thumbdrive is write protected
[21:58] <de-facto> beejay what do you mean with "it is write protected"? what and how did you find out?
[21:58] <k1l> beejay: make sure its not mounted
[21:59] <beejay> disks is showing errors with block size, gparted the same, hdparm is displaying "dev write -protected"
[22:01] <de-facto> beejay hmm interessting, do you see something about it in "dmesg"?
[22:01] <beejay> disks: udisks-error-quark
[22:01] <beejay> when trying to make new partition
[22:03] <de-facto> beejay do you want to reformat it?
[22:03] <beejay> no problem with it
[22:04] <beejay> i can do new partition table in qparted
[22:07] <beejay> anything i was trying it was showing that whole /dev/sda is write-protected, not partitions
[22:07] <newjersey> is there a special trick to make a ubuntu iso flash drive bootable on macbook? I already have lubuntu installed on the computer and would like to start fresh but I can't get any disk to show up on the startup screen except one called "windows"
[22:08] <beejay> as i do new partition table abd new partitions everything is good; any method i use to put iso into thumbdrive makes it whole write protected
[22:09] <de-facto> beejay yeah because its presented as iso9660 probably
[22:10] <donofrio> ok I have a macmini here running 16.04 ppc and I have no sound, slow refreshing video I'm wondering what do I have to modprobe to get this resolved http://apaste.info/z6R
[22:11] <pilne> standard method of putting an iso on a usb stick involves using something like dd to image it onto it, this makes all of whatever is being written to with the dd command (i.e. of=/dev/sdb) be seen as one "image" until things are changed, there are utilities to make a multiboot, and therefore multipartitioned usb boot stick, but they aren't exactly failproof.
[22:11] <de-facto> beejay i mean that partition on the thumb drive is iso9660 (as a burned cd), so you wont be able to write to it then
[22:11] <cmb_> Struggling to get password-less login between machines on my local network working (via ssh; newly installed 16.04 on both machines). Followed my normal routine: ssh-keygen -t dsa (no passphrase); ssh-copy-id to the relevant machine. But no still getting prompted for a password by the remote machine after the newly generated key has been installed. See: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16071736/
[22:11] <ikonia> donofrio: did they do a mac mini PPC ?
[22:11] <ikonia> donofrio: they where all intel
[22:12] <ikonia> donofrio: wow - they did a PPC mini, the spec sucks
[22:12] <ikonia> donofrio: it's not going to work well with ubuntu
[22:13] <donofrio> specs aside, do you know how to enable the soundcard and faster refreshing video?
[22:13] <b-yeezi> beejay: I think it's the Ubuntu Iso's fault. I don't think we used to have this problem
[22:14] <ikonia> donofrio: the video refresh is because the spec sucks
[22:14] <ikonia> donofrio: the video card is terrible and the support for that card is terrible
[22:14] <beejay> 1st partition is iso, second is fat (uefi)
[22:15] <newjersey> any way to do a "factory reset" of some sort on my macbook 1,1? I can't get it to boot from a usb drive anymore...
[22:15] <beejay> but it is like all thumbdrive write-protected
[22:15] <b-yeezi> You should be able to make a 3rd, but I can't make it work either.
[22:15] <ikonia> newjersey: the guys in ##apple can help
[22:16] <beejay> i can not, because i got this error about block size - in gparted and in disks
[22:16] <de-facto> beejay if the whole drive were write protected (which is possible with some chipsets, but i doubt you could trigger that without special tools), you also could not write a partition table to the blockdevice, right?
[22:16] <mike-drummer> Got an apt error preventing me from installing or removing anything http://pastebin.com/7vwGVkMA
[22:16] <donofrio> ikonia, did ubuntu keep the agp port logic in the kernel, I heard debian it was removed that is why video is slow...
[22:17] <ikonia> donofrio: the video card just sucks and the support for it sucks
[22:17] <ikonia> donofrio: it's that simple - ubuntu is too demanding for such a low spec machine
[22:17] <ikonia> mike-drummer: you have a few external repos in there - remove them
[22:17] <beejay> i can do new partiotin table
[22:18] <ikonia> mike-drummer: you appear to have backup files .bck too
[22:18] <ikonia> remove them, apt doesn't like that
[22:18] <donofrio> ikonia, this is linux relax not everyone is in a hurry for speed, just want answers to how to resolve the soundcard first
[22:18] <donofrio> then the video
[22:18] <ikonia> donofrio: what ?
[22:18] <ikonia> donofrio: I am relaxed, I'm just explaining - it's not going to work on that mac
[22:18] <b-yeezi> See if that works. You can mount the other partition from the live environment
[22:18] <donofrio> linux run's on an RPi it can run ona mac mini just fine
[22:19] <ikonia> donofrio: the pi is more equipped for it and ubuntu doesn't run "great" on it
[22:19] <newjersey> ikonia, :( there is no one there
[22:19] <boxmein> ikonia: what
[22:19] <ikonia> newjersey: there are many people there
[22:19] <newjersey> I mean nobody is talking
[22:19] <ikonia> newjersey: then wait
[22:20] <ikonia> newjersey: you've waited less than a minute
[22:20] <raimundo> Alguna nena de chile?
[22:20] <k1l> donofrio: apple hardware needs special treatment most times. better see the  ubuntu wiki or forums or askubuntu about the experiences from other users with that exact hardware
[22:20] <beejay> i did new partition table gpt
[22:20] <ikonia> k1l: it's dead PPC and support removed ATI
[22:20] <beejay> what is better dd or disk creator?
[22:21] <ikonia> beejay: better for what ?
[22:21] <beejay> for putting iso into thumbdrive
[22:21] <de-facto> beejay if you use those you will overwrite your partition table
[22:21] <beejay> i did
[22:22] <beejay> maybe i do not catch
[22:22] <k1l> mike-drummer: and you have a wrong 3rd party repo there too.
[22:22] <beejay> i put right now new gpt prtition table
[22:23] <beejay> there is no partitions
[22:23] <beejay> when i use dd or disk creator it will do partitions
[22:23] <beejay> but also will change partition table
[22:25] <cmb_> Ahhh, sorted my ssh/passwordless login problem. Just use RSA keys rather than DSA ones.
[22:25] <b-yeezi> I'm really disappointed. I paved over a solid install of Korora 23 for this. Not happy
[22:26] <pilne> and why not just install to a different partition to give it a test drive if you were happy with korora 23?
[22:26] <de-facto> yes beejay /dev/sdX is the whole thumbdrive as block device, /dev/sdX1 /dev/sdX2 and so on the partitions on it, so if you dd to the blockdevice it will overwrite the partitiontable and also provide a bootloader (as needed for booting)
[22:26] <wad> I'm wanting to try some Ubuntu development stuff. I cloned a git repository for gnome-terminal, but am having some trouble getting it to build. Is this the right channel? Or is there a dev channel somewhere?
[22:26] <ikonia> wad: with respect, how do you expect to do development if you don't konw how to do a build of a stable component ?
[22:26] <b-yeezi> Because I love Ubuntu. I was just test driving Korora until 16.04 released
[22:27] <b-yeezi> I'm sure it will get better, but not a good desktop launch.
[22:27] <pilne> i mean, i love ubuntu too, but i wouldn't just throw away something that's running like greased lightning downhill with a tailwind
[22:27] <b-yeezi> I will wait 6 months or so to update my servers
[22:28] <b-yeezi> I did a systemback of Korora, so it would only take 30 to 60 minutes to get it back up and running, but I'm going to stick with it for a month or so
[22:29] <wad> ikonia, also with respect, I know how to build stuff, but I think I may be following the wrong path in this case. The latest gnome-terminal requires GTK+ 3.12, but reading about it online says that Ubuntu Unity only works with 3.10.8.... Perhaps I'm using the wrong gnome-terminal package?
[22:29] <ikonia> wad: you don't seem to know how to build it, as you're not debugging it at al
[22:29] <ikonia> all
[22:30] <ikonia> wad: dependency matching is something that should be done before you try/start to build
[22:30] <wad> I read this online: "After Gnome 3.10 , there happened huge differences on Gnome side, it's not compatible with current Ubuntu. Even compiz won't work properly. Ubuntu team patches Gnome to use it. You had better wait until Ubuntu team patches and upgrades gtk3.10 and gnome stuff. – kenn Jul 22 '15 at 21:02"
[22:30] <ikonia> wad: ok ?
[22:31] <ArrEmmArrEff> howdy y'all ubuntu 1604 i wiped /sda in gparted and set to ext4 but i cant edit anything or create files. how to fix ?
[22:31] <wad> I was hoping I could compile up my own version of gnome-terminal, perhaps so I could integrate cssh into it. Because I'd rather the multiple terminals open as tabs in gnome-terminal, instead of those little xterm windows.....
[22:31] <ikonia> gnome-terminal already supports tabs
[22:31] <ikonia> ArrEmmArrEff: how are you trying to create files on it ?
[22:32] <ikonia> ArrEmmArrEff: keep in mind /dev/sda is a disk, not a partition
[22:32] <wad> ikonia, yea, I use them all the time. I even customized the color, to make the active one pop more!
[22:32] <wad> But when I run cssh, it doesn't use gnome-terminal. It opens little xterm windows.
[22:32] <ArrEmmArrEff> sudo mkdir works but i want to beable to use right click in nautilus. im not sure what permissions or chmod stuff to do
[22:32] <ikonia> wad:....isn't that just a conifg line
[22:33] <wad> It sure is. :)
[22:33] <wad> Anyway, I've always wanted to try doing some linux dev stuff. Figured this would be a good place to start.
[22:33] <ikonia> wad: so why are you looking at compiling things to fix a config problem ?
[22:33] <ikonia> just change the config
[22:33] <ikonia> ArrEmmArrEff: where is the disk mounted ?
[22:33] <iSlayWyverns> Does LUKS slow down considerably the system?
[22:33] <gohuidui> hI
[22:34] <ArrEmmArrEff> ikonia: sorry its /dev/sda5
[22:34] <gohuidui> What are the system requirements for ubunto 16.. LTS?
[22:34] <gohuidui> Ubuntu
[22:34] <ikonia> iSlayWyverns: it has an overhead at decyrpt time, there is a "buffer" it passes through before it commits to disk (virtually) so there is an overhead, but.....it really depends. Most won't see it
[22:34] <ikonia> ArrEmmArrEff: where is it mounted
[22:34] <Multbrelch> ArrEmmArrEff, in the worst case 'sudo chmod -R user:user /media/user/your_disk'
[22:34] <wad> ikonia, I don't have a config problem.... was just trying to get gnome-terminal to compile from code, having dependency issues, came here looking to see if there was a development channel of some sort.
[22:34] <Multbrelch> chown I mean
[22:35] <iSlayWyverns> doesn't seem noticeable (brb)
[22:35] <ikonia> wad: you do have a config problem as you're complaining that cssh doesn't use gnome terminal
[22:35] <nacc> wad: if you're compiling on ubuntu try `apt-get build-dep gnome-terminal` to install all the dependencies used to build the package
[22:35] <ikonia> no, no
[22:35] <ArrEmmArrEff> ikonia: im not sure how to tell where its mounted
[22:35] <ikonia> do not randomly type that
[22:36] <terratoma> can i do a 'in-target' preseed command AND a non 'in-target' command in preseed ?
[22:36] <wad> ikonia, Ah, I didn't realize that cssh could be configured to use gnome-terminal! I'll give it a shot.
[22:36] <Multbrelch> ArrEmmArrEff, open 'Drives' and look there
[22:36] <terratoma> i have not been able to figure out how
[22:36] <wad> nacc: I'll try that too.
[22:36] <nacc> terratoma: yes, you can
[22:36] <ikonia> wad: do not randomly ype build-dep
[22:36] <de-facto> wad have you read man of cssh completely? are you sure you cant just configure cssh to use gnome-terminal?
[22:36] <virtuosoj> I think I messed up. trying to install wine and typed "sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386" in terminal
[22:36] <nacc> ikonia: ack, thought wad specifically wanted to recompile, sorry
[22:36] <ikonia> nacc: he did - but for the wrong reasons
[22:37] <virtuosoj> not it won't let me apt update & upgrade ...
[22:37] <ikonia> nacc: 1 line in config doesn't need a recompile
[22:37] <virtuosoj> *now
[22:37] <nacc> ikonia: yep, reread the backlog, sorry
[22:37] <ikonia> nacc: not a problem
[22:37] <ArrEmmArrEff> Multbrelch: i feel so dumb where is drives?
[22:37] <wad> de-facto, I had not. Doing it now.
[22:37] <virtuosoj> "N: Skipping acquire of configured file 'main/binary-1386/Packages' as repository 'http://ppa.launchpad.net/ravefinity-project/ppa/ubuntu xenial InRelease' doesn't support architecture '1386'
[22:37] <virtuosoj> "
[22:37] <Multbrelch> ArrEmmArrEff, you know how to open a terminal? If so do it
[22:37] <b-yeezi> I can't get grubia32.efi onto a flash drive to load on my eeepc book
[22:37] <terratoma> nacc: do you think my syntax is correct? https://dpaste.de/cMJa/raw
[22:38] <virtuosoj> How do I remove this error?
[22:38] <ikonia> virtuosoj: you have your answer in the error
[22:38] <ArrEmmArrEff> Multbrelch: k
[22:38] <ikonia> virtuosoj: and l386 is not i386
[22:38] <virtuosoj> T_T
[22:38] <beejay> any clue how to resolve block size problem?
[22:38] <ikonia> 1386 is different to i386
[22:38] <Multbrelch> ArrEmmArrEff, in the terminal, type 'ls -al /media/<your_user_name>
[22:38] <virtuosoj> maybe that's how I messed up
[22:38] <virtuosoj> well... definitely
[22:38] <virtuosoj> how do I undo that?
[22:38] <ikonia> edit the repo file
[22:39] <Multbrelch> ArrEmmArrEff, you see the drive's name?
[22:39] <ArrEmmArrEff> yes
[22:39] <Multbrelch> k
[22:39] <Multbrelch> ArrEmmArrEff, in the terminal, find the user right for your drive
[22:39] <Multbrelch> ArrEmmArrEff, is it you or root?
[22:39] <nacc> terratoma: to be clear, the first two lines in the "this does not" section do work, and it's just the last that does not?
[22:40] <virtuosoj> ikonia, how do I locate repo file?
[22:40] <ArrEmmArrEff> Multbrelch: drwxr-xr-x  4 root root 4096 Apr 26 19:26
[22:40] <Multbrelch> Very good!
[22:40] <ikonia> virtuosoj: its in /etc/yum.repos.d
[22:40] <ikonia> oops
[22:40] <ikonia> virtuosoj: sorry, ignore that
[22:40] <ikonia> virtuosoj: /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[22:40] <Multbrelch> So, is there some stuff on the hard drive or is it still empty?, ArrEmmArrEff
[22:40] <virtuosoj> you use fedora? :P
[22:40] <ikonia> virtuosoj: I was on auto pilot, sorry
[22:41] <terratoma> nacc: yeah!  first example worked fine.  second i get Failed to run preseeded command
[22:41] <ArrEmmArrEff> i just a test dir i made with sudo mkdir to see if it would work
[22:41] <Multbrelch> ArrEmmArrEff, in the terminal type: sudo chown -R <your_user_name>:<your_user_name> /media/<your_user_name>/<drives_name>
[22:42] <mekhami> i added a user to the sudoers group with gpasswd -a <user> sudo but when i went back and logged ont o that user they didn't have sudo privilege
[22:42] <mekhami> what else do i need to do
[22:42] <Multbrelch> ArrEmmArrEff, after you do: ls -al /media/<your_user_name> ... the owner should be you then
[22:42] <nacc> terratoma: sorry, i meant specifically in the second, do the first two lines work on their own (with the line-continuation)? They should, just checking
[22:43] <de-facto> beejay not really, i guess there is something weird about the iso maybe? if you want to start from scratch with your thumbdrive you could dd some zeros to it and reformat it with gparted then (as it will look factory clean). then i guess you could copy the files from within the iso onto a partition and need to install a bootloader to the thumdrive then (not sure if that will work i always was too lazy to do that manually)
[22:43] <terratoma> nacc: yes. it stops working when i add the 'in-target' part
[22:43] <terratoma> im going to confirm again though
[22:43] <ArrEmmArrEff> Multbrelch: does s3@s3:~$ sudo chown -R s3:s3 /media/s3/Landfill
[22:43] <ArrEmmArrEff>  look right ?
[22:43] <terratoma> yes, works without the 'in-target' part
[22:44] <Multbrelch> s3 is the user's name and Landfill is the disk's name?
[22:44] <Multbrelch> ArrEmmArrEff, ^
[22:44] <ArrEmmArrEff> yes
[22:44] <Bundestrojaner> good evening
[22:44] <Multbrelch> Yes, then it should work
[22:44] <nacc> terratoma: ok, let me compare to some examples i've used in the past
[22:44] <terratoma> thanks
[22:45] <nacc> terratoma: have you tried doin all three as in-target commands?
[22:45] <terratoma> trying...
[22:45] <nacc> terratoma: e.g., in-target cp -ra /media/cdrom/pool /pool...
[22:45] <ArrEmmArrEff> Multbrelch: ikonia thanks guys you fixed it
[22:46] <Multbrelch> GOOD!
[22:46] <Multbrelch> chaown => change owner, chmod => change user rights <= all this very important, ArrEmmArrEff, google for it ...
[22:46] <Multbrelch> chown
[22:47] <terratoma> nacc: i am going to try https://dpaste.de/cn1T/raw
[22:47] <ArrEmmArrEff> Multbrelch: was the -R to do everything on the drive?
[22:47] <Multbrelch> -R means recursive ArrEmmArrEff
[22:47] <nacc> terratoma: shouldn't need /target in the destination?
[22:47] <Multbrelch> ArrEmmArrEff, in the terminal type 'man chown' <= manual
[22:48] <nacc> terratoma: of the first command
[22:48] <nacc> terratoma: oh and *each* line needs to have in-target
[22:48] <terratoma> good point, thanks
[22:48] <nacc> aiui
[22:48] <ArrEmmArrEff> Multbrelch: i did google it but found different answers and just wanted some help before i make it worse haha thanks again tho :))))
[22:48] <Multbrelch> :)
[22:48] <nacc> terratoma: like in http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1977570
[22:48] <terratoma> im trying this: https://dpaste.de/dXMv/raw
[22:49] <terratoma> oops i have typo again
[22:49] <Multbrelch> ArrEmmArrEff, in the worst case, look into the manpages of the machine you are using, e.g., do a 'man chown'
[22:49] <nacc> terratoma: lost late_command? :)
[22:49] <ArrEmmArrEff> am reading it now
[22:49] <terratoma> and one more time... https://dpaste.de/jM8x/raw
[22:50] <nacc> terratoma: that seems right to me
[22:50] <rud0lf> just to be sure: a file can belong to only one group?
[22:50] <Bundestrojaner> I've installed kubuntu 15.10 on my hp dv7-4051 (radeon 5650m).
[22:50] <Bundestrojaner> I've installed the proprietary ati-driver using the driver manager, now it doesn't boot any more.
[22:50] <Bundestrojaner> I have no idea how to trouble shoot this - the splash screen looks normal, than disappears and nothing happens after that
[22:52] <riqj> hello everyone, I dont get an upgrade alert for 16.04. is it maybe not the time for it yet?
[22:52] <LaserAllan> hey there, is there a VMWare client for linux?, I am in the middle of deciding if I am going to use VMWare or Zhen Serveratm
[22:52] <EriC^^> riqj: it won't offer to upgrade til 16.04.1
[22:52] <nacc> riqj: what version of ubuntu are you on?
[22:53] <de-facto> LaserAllan id recomment VirtualBox from my experience it works really well on ubuntu
[22:53] <riqj> nacc, 14.04. LTS
[22:53] <Bundestrojaner> at first, how can i switch back to the open driver?
[22:54] <de-facto> LaserAllan or virt-manager
[22:54] <nacc> riqj: ah then what EriC^^ said
[22:54] <riqj> EriC^^, ah, thank you
[22:54] <riqj> thank you, nacc
[22:55] <LaserAllan> de-facto: Is it an official client for VMWare?
[22:55] <o11c> security.ubuntu.com is down?
[22:55] <riqj> but then can I upgrade directly from 14.04. to 16.04.?
[22:55] <LaserAllan> I've looked around and there seems to quite a few options.
[22:56] <EriC^^> riqj: yeah
[22:56] <o11c> riqj: upgrades between LTS releases are always possible, provided you don't use any third-party PPAs
[22:56] <nacc> !ltsupgrade | riqj
[22:57] <o11c> if you *do* use third-party PPAs, you might have to disable them
[22:57] <de-facto> LaserAllan nope not from VmWare, Virtualbox is from Oracle and virt-manager from redhat i guess
[22:57] <riqj> EriC^^, I mean if I want to upgrade now..how would it work? I guess 'sudo do-release-upgrade -d' is for usual upgrades, not for LTS
[22:57] <riqj> or is it=
[22:57] <riqj> ?
[22:57] <nacc> riqj: if you pass -d, you will get put onto yakkety
[22:57] <nacc> riqj: which you do not want
[22:57] <riqj> I mean not from one LTS to the next
[22:57] <o11c> riqj: well, right *now* right now is not possible, since the update server is down
[22:58] <EriC^^> riqj: you could download the iso, and in the installer choose to upgrade, never tried it though
[22:58] <nacc> riqj: IMO, presuming you are on LTS for stability and support, just wait til 16.04.1
[22:58] <riqj> yes, I can do that. only I wanted to know if it there'd be a simple way
[22:59] <bananapie_> anyone know where I can find a zip file containing the same files that I would get if I ran debootstrap xenial?
[22:59] <riqj> by the way, what is yakkety? the name for 16.10.?
[22:59] <o11c> bananapie_: wouldn't you really want a VM image?
[22:59] <bananapie_> i need it for chroot
[23:00] <nacc> !yakkety | riqj
[23:00] <riqj> ah :)
[23:00] <LaserAllan> de-facto: Ok so basically to remote manage a VMWare server I will have to use WIndows?
[23:00] <Jbmorris289> Hello
[23:00] <riqj> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yakety_Sax
[23:01] <de-facto> LaserAllan im not familiar with VmWare but there is https://my.vmware.com/web/vmware/downloads
[23:01] <terratoma> nacc: i have failed http://i.imgur.com/LvhRB35.png
[23:02] <Jbmorris289> I have some questions
[23:02] <LaserAllan> de-facto: Lemme check, becuase I am in the process of setting up a backups erver tha tis going to run a linux VM an aWindows VM the linux vm is ging to handle network device backups ebcuase windows cannot do that
[23:02] <Jbmorris289> and need a little help
[23:02] <LaserAllan> so i am kinda having to trick Crashplan into backing up it anyway
[23:02] <bananapie_> like stage 3 of gentoo
[23:02] <Jbmorris289> I am currently on 'Lubuntu'
[23:02] <riqj> thank you for your replies! enjoy your day!
[23:03] <Jbmorris289> im planning on installing it,
[23:03] <Jbmorris289> And
[23:03] <Jbmorris289> I'm replacing WinXP
[23:03] <Jbmorris289> but
[23:03] <Jbmorris289> it says that ill lose my docs
[23:03] <Jbmorris289> well
[23:03] <Jbmorris289> it shows me partitions actually
[23:03] <Jbmorris289> but will I LOSE my files?
[23:04] <de-facto> LaserAllan if you are able to read german language there is something in the wiki here https://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/VMware_Player/
[23:04] <de-facto> hence there are linux versions avail
[23:05] <LaserAllan> de-facto: I am actually, just plain retarded that german is the language and not english lol
[23:05] <mekhami> i added a user to the sudoers group with gpasswd -a <user> sudo but when i went back and logged ont o that user they didn't have sudo privilege
[23:05] <de-facto> LaserAllan use google translate, though id probably choose virt-manager for such a scenario myself
[23:06] <LaserAllan> de-facto: Although, is VMWare better than Zhen Server for this?, if you know what I am talking about :)
[23:07] <de-facto> LaserAllan i dont know anything about Zhen Server
[23:07] <de-facto> maybe you meant Xen?
[23:08] <LaserAllan> de-facto: Sorry I misspelled
[23:08] <LaserAllan> Xen server is the name
[23:09] <terratoma> nacc: i guess the real problem is the apt-ftparchive command i am trying does not want to work in preseed for some reason ( works great after reboot ).  dunno.   probably not preseed's fault
[23:10] <Jbmorris289> Uh...?
[23:10] <Jbmorris289> no answer?
[23:10] <Jbmorris289> hm
[23:10] <teward> Jbmorris289: patience is a virtue
[23:10] <teward> Jbmorris289: if you "replace" WinXP and overwrite, then you *will* lose the WinXP files
[23:10] <Jbmorris289> i need to figures this out without screwing -
[23:10] <Jbmorris289> Darn
[23:10] <Jbmorris289> it
[23:10] <teward> you have to do a side-by-side install if you want to keep the WinXP files
[23:10] <teward> Jbmorris289: or copy them to an external disk to preserve them
[23:11] <Jbmorris289> I have another partition
[23:11] <Jbmorris289> thats one thing
[23:11] <OerHeks> Jbmorris289, if you don't have a backup of your *important* files, they are not important.
[23:11] <teward> ^ that
[23:11] <Jbmorris289> and true, patience IS a virtue...
[23:12] <Jbmorris289> ill probably just
[23:12] <bprompt> Jbmorris289:    what are you trying to do again?
[23:12] <Jbmorris289> back it up on the second partition of my computer's HDD
[23:12] <Jbmorris289> bprompt: replace winXP
[23:12] <Jbmorris289> with Lubuntu
[23:12] <bprompt> Jbmorris289:    ok... and what's stopping you?
[23:12] <Jbmorris289> losing docs
[23:13] <bprompt> Jbmorris289:    you mean, you only have one partition?
[23:13] <Jbmorris289> i have two
[23:13] <de-facto> well LaserAllan thats not really an ubuntu related question, neither Citrix XenServer nor VmWare is in the repositories, but both virtualbox and virt-manager and libvirt are
[23:13] <Jbmorris289> but the second one is not for installing OSes
[23:13] <bprompt> Jbmorris289:    is for docs? :)
[23:13] <bprompt> hehehe
[23:13] <OerHeks> sometimes windows xp is installed on sata in IDE mode, not AHCI ... you might lose them anyway
[23:14] <bprompt> Jbmorris289:   I mean, just move over the files you want kept, over to the 2nd partition, and done :)
[23:14] <de-facto> LaserAllan there is also #xen channel on freenode
[23:14] <Jbmorris289> bprompt: ye
[23:14] <Jbmorris289> i thought it wasn't going to remove
[23:14] <bprompt> Jbmorris289:    shouldln't take long, unless you have a PATA hdd with 3200 rpm =P
[23:14] <Jbmorris289> im currently on a LIVE session of lubuntu
[23:15] <Jbmorris289> nope
[23:15] <Jbmorris289> i have sata
[23:15] <Jbmorris289> 160 GB (Wow)
[23:15] <bprompt> Jbmorris289:     you thought you weren't going to remove what again?
[23:15] <Jbmorris289> it(lubuntu installer) and documents and other files
[23:15] <adrian_1908> Jbmorris289: So you want to move your personal files to the new partition and then overwrite the WinXP partition with Lubuntu or?
[23:16] <Jbmorris289> I'm replacing windows XP
[23:16] <Jbmorris289> since its waayyyy to outdated by now
[23:16] <LaserAllan> de-facto: thanks man
[23:16] <Jbmorris289> and the second partition is already created
[23:16] <adrian_1908> Jbmorris289: sorry, my chat window was stuck (didn't scroll along), you might have been helped already. disregard my question in that case.
[23:16] <Jbmorris289> too* no to
[23:17] <Jbmorris289> adrian_1908: oh
[23:17] <Jbmorris289> Huh.
[23:17] <Jbmorris289> also bprompt
[23:17] <bprompt> Jbmorris289:     usually you wouldn't want to store docs and media files in the system partition, if they had been saved on the 2nd partition from the getgo, you'd be kosher, but the issue always is there, that in case of a reinstall or something happening to the system, to just reinstall or affect the system, not your files
[23:18] <Yuri6037> Hey all, so I'm back and I worry about the Untity8 thing
[23:18] <Jbmorris289> i used UnetBootin and booted from the main partition, will installing still work without Hang?
[23:18] <Jbmorris289> And...
[23:20] <Jbmorris289> why are IP addresses showing on pidgin when people join..
[23:20] <nacc> terratoma: hrm, that's possibly true, if maybe  it's not available (but it should be) ... really not sure, sorry
[23:20] <nacc> terratoma: did you every try w/o the full path?
[23:20] <Yuri6037> They say hardware will need to support Mir but in the case the company doesn't want to support Ubuntu ? Next issues I see are related to visuals
[23:20] <bprompt> Jbmorris289:    I don't use pidgin, but I'd think is some setting in it
[23:20] <Jbmorris289> bprompt: hm
[23:21] <terratoma> nacc: trying.  just takes me a while to generate iso, test in emulation, etc
[23:21] <Quetza> Hi. I've just installed 14.04 LTS server but the sources.list file only has the cdrom in it. How can I install software?
[23:21] <effectnet> why is the folder in the corner shaking every once in a while???
[23:21] <bprompt> Jbmorris289:    I mean, is the same in irc, you can check the nicks IP if you want, or simply disable it, depends, if you're looking for individuals from certain region, that can be helpful
[23:21] <pilne> a shaking icon on the dock means it wants your attention
[23:22] <adrian_1908> Jbmorris289: Is the data a lot? And how private is it? If it's not too much, you could upload it to a free online storage service as an extra insurance.
[23:22] <terratoma> 8 gig usb sticks are 50 cents now
[23:22] <Jbmorris289> adrian_1908: not really that big
[23:22] <Jbmorris289> I use MEGA
[23:22] <Jbmorris289> (.nz)
[23:22] <adrian_1908> Yeah was gonna suggest MEGA :P
[23:22] <reisio> mega's ui is abysmal
[23:22] <Jbmorris289> Hah
[23:22] <reisio> what're you talking about, online storage?
[23:23] <Jbmorris289> Yup
[23:23] <Yuri6037> About visuals, i saw some videos with awful stilyzed icons and less rounded/smooth things like the crappy win10 theme !
[23:23] <reisio> what's mega's free limit?
[23:23] <Jbmorris289> 50 GB
[23:23] <Jbmorris289> i think
[23:23] <adrian_1908> yes, 50
[23:23] <reisio> that's pretty decent
[23:23] <nacc> Quetza: did you install it from a cdrom?
[23:23] <reisio> but probably not worth it
[23:23] <Quetza> nacc: yes
[23:23] <Quetza> or rather, a USB stick
[23:23] <reisio> their UI sucks, and they'll just get raided by a government again eventually
[23:24] <nacc> Quetza: hrm, i thought it tended to put the full sources.list in during the install, but maybe server doesn't, or maybe you had to tell it -- you should just be able to add the appropriate lines to sources.list
[23:24] <Jbmorris289> all my files altogether, the size is way less than 50 GB (fortunately)
[23:24] <Yuri6037> is this Unity8 theme be enforced in the future ? Because the actual theme is just the crappy style of win10 with layout of unity7 !
[23:24] <Quetza> nacc: I tried, but nothing worked. I've just run apt-get update and it seems to finally be doing something
[23:25] <reisio> most people don't have more than 30GB or so they need with them at all times :p
[23:25] <iSlayWyverns> Alway show Menu Options - setting?
[23:25] <de-facto> Jbmorris289 how about setting up a proper external backup of your data (possibly encrypted) anyhow? its always a very good idea, data without backup is not really important by definition ;)
[23:25] <reisio> that's including a heavy OS
[23:25] <adrian_1908> Jbmorris289: Unless this poses a threat: "[01:13] OerHeks sometimes windows xp is installed on sata in IDE mode, not AHCI ... you might lose them anyway" I don't see why you shouldn't go ahead and install on the partition of your choice.
[23:25] <reisio> Yuri6037: not sure darker window titles counts as "just like windows 10", but whatever :p
[23:26] <Jbmorris289> adrian_1908: I used UNETBootin and used the C: drive to boot, will installatio still work
[23:26] <Jbmorris289> Typo.
[23:26] <Jbmorris289> Installation
[23:26] <Quetza> It seems that apt-get update is a pre-requisite for having apt-get working. would be nice if it were documented somewhere :(
[23:26] <Jbmorris289> there
[23:26] <nacc> Quetza: it's in the manpage?
[23:27] <nacc> Quetza: and it's not "required", but if you want to be current, it's necessary
[23:27] <adrian_1908> Jbmorris289: What do you mean by C: drive? Does your mainboard's boot menu assign drive letters, or what are you referring to?
[23:27] <nacc> Quetza: and on any alteration to sources, of course
[23:27] <Yuri6037> for examples the top right dropdowns are realy good and smooth now on the video i saw, that was a creep win10 metro look !
[23:27] <adrian_1908> Jbmorris289: You booted from a LiveCD/stick, no?
[23:28] <Jbmorris289> de-facto: i have, but I think i've formatted my Flash drive too many times and now im worried about it dying sooner
[23:28] <Jbmorris289> i try to make it bootable with stuff
[23:28] <Jbmorris289> but it somtimes
[23:28] <Jbmorris289> doesn't seem to wanna work
[23:28] <Jbmorris289> adrian_1908: Nope
[23:29] <Jbmorris289> Hard drive, i set it up with unetbootin
[23:29] <de-facto> Jbmorris289 yeah there is no really durable option for data except for backing it up on multiple devices, rewriting it and renewing the hw from time to time
[23:29] <Jbmorris289> hw?
[23:29] <de-facto> hardware
[23:29] <Jbmorris289> ..oh
[23:30] <Yuri6037> if i would like to make ubuntu my next system that's to replace win7 when it will be dropped. the problem is that if ubuntu starts to go into the same crappy rendering engaged in win 8, seriously i give up ubuntu !
[23:31] <Jbmorris289> de-facto: so will installation still work even though im booted from the internal hard drive
[23:31] <Yuri6037> that is the question ! And apparently unity 8 is taking some foot in this crappy rendering
[23:31] <Defiance_> there are other flavors of ubuntu that dont use unity
[23:32] <Yuri6037> i know but i love unity7...
[23:32] <JeremyN> I'm running Ubuntu 14.04.4 LTS, backuppc version 3.3.0, and samba version 4.3.8-Ubuntu.
[23:32] <JeremyN> BackupPC is failing and logging the following when trying to backup Windows 10 users:
[23:32] <JeremyN> cli_list: Error: unable to parse name from info level 260
[23:32] <JeremyN> NT_STATUS_NO_MEMORY listing \\*
[23:32] <JeremyN> tar:705  do_list fail NT_STATUS_NO_MEMORY
[23:32] <JeremyN> I THINK it's caused by this bug: https://bugzilla.samba.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11831
[23:32] <robotdevil1> grrrrrrrr is EFI ever stupid
[23:33] <o11c> robotdevil1: yup, first thing I always do is disable it
[23:33] <de-facto> Jbmorris289 if you want to install ubuntu onto your harddrive i would recommend to boot from a livecd/liveusb and test if your hardware works properly with ubuntu. if so you can reformat and install ubuntu onto your harddrive then (but please backup your data before you do that)
[23:33] <JeremyN> which is a duplicate of this bug: https://bugzilla.samba.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11822#c6
[23:33] <Yuri6037> and from what i saw on youtube for unity8 is remembering me win 8 shit metro interface and ms making all their possible for the most crappy rendering started with win8.
[23:34] <adrian_1908> Jbmorris289: Yeah, what de-facto said. Strange shenanigans are not worth the hassle. Get a new usb stick if necessary, they are so cheap and have plenty uses.
[23:34] <JeremyN> is Ubuntu planning on rolling that patch into their package of samba?
[23:35] <robotdevil1> o11c: well I have a HP notebook and I assumed it was installed with EFI and secureboot, so I tried to install grub to the mbr to see what would happen, without changing the bios
[23:35] <robotdevil1> o11c: it made a install that you could reach by pressing the boot order hot key
[23:36] <nacc> JeremyN: is there an ubuntu bug for it?
[23:36] <robotdevil1> which isnt great
[23:36] <Yuri6037> the problem of ms is that they want the system to be identical on mobile and desktop (which is the worst idea i ever saw) and ubuntu unity8 with their phone is taking a bit the same direction.
[23:36] <de-facto> Yuri6037 there are loads of different DesktopEnvironments, one for every taste (not only Unity). Just google some further and you probably will find some you like more (e.g. Gnome, KDE, LXDE, Xfce and so on and so forth)
[23:36] <Jbmorris289> adrian_1908: i can't get a new one ATM.
[23:36] <nacc> Yuri6037: offtopic (afaict)
[23:36] <o11c> I just installed xfce for my mom's old netbook
[23:36] <o11c> personally I use KDE though
[23:36] <de-facto> Yuri6037 look at all the variety of livecds you could choose from: http://releases.ubuntu.com/
[23:37] <robotdevil1> so then I told the hp recovery whatever it was it recover the partitions and do clean install but with secure boot off and legacy mode in bios
[23:37] <Yuri6037> i love unity version 7 but not version 8 that's all and what i'm worried about is that future isos will be enforced with that unity8
[23:37] <adrian_1908> Jbmorris289: So you're attempting one of these "launch Ubuntu installer from within Windows" things or? I've never done that.
[23:38] <nacc> JeremyN: on quick searching, I did not find one; you may want to file one
[23:38] <de-facto> Yuri6037 if you dont like Unity, choose another iso with another DE, look at the link
[23:39] <robotdevil1> and then tried to install ubuntu and I even made a grub EFI boot partition and installed grub to mbr since it would not let me select the windows EFI or the grub boot partition
[23:39] <robotdevil1> and this install is unreachable
[23:40] <Yuri6037> de-facto: I said you about 10 times already : not unity in general ! Unity7 which is the current i have is great and visualy good. The problem is Unity8.
[23:41] <mundus2018> http://i.imgur.com/5jOLUoi.jpg
[23:41] <Yuri6037> will there be an option in future ubuntu versions to keep unity7 ?
[23:41] <EriC^^> robotdevil1: is windows working right now?
[23:42] <Rave1> acer
[23:43] <adrian_1908> Yuri6037: Complaining here won't help. Vanilla Ubuntu is a "trendy" OS, so you'll see contemporary UI design in it. Many users jumped ship to other Desktops far earlier for other reasons.
[23:43] <adrian_1908> Yuri6037: So either go with the flow, or pick something more conservative.
[23:43] <reisio> Yuri6037: with free software, even if nobody else supports it, you can always maintain it yourself
[23:44] <Yuri6037> ok so the answer to my question is no and if i want to keep it i have to touch code ?
[23:45] <Yuri6037> where is the repo of unity7 ?
[23:46] <reisio> the answer is probably not, and if nobody else is going to maintain it, yes, you will have to maintain it yourself
[23:46] <OerHeks> worried about problems while unity 8 isn't default yet ..
[23:46] <Jbmorris289> 1880 people on this channel
[23:46] <Jbmorris289> Wow
[23:46] <reisio> https://launchpad.net/unity
[23:47] <petrrms> Does macbuntu work with ubuntu 16??
[23:47] <Yuri6037> i worry for the future...
[23:47] <Jbmorris289> oo ubuntu 16 alpha
[23:48] <Jordan_U> Yuri6037: Please express those worries elsewhere like #ubuntu-offtopic. This channel is for productive Ubuntu support discussion only.
[23:48] <Yuri6037> Is there no github things ? Where do i view codes ?
[23:49] <reisio> uses bzr, IIRC
[23:49] <reisio> because Canonical has a NIH problem
[23:50] <reisio> http://doc.bazaar.canonical.com/latest/en/tutorials/using_bazaar_with_launchpad.html
[23:50] <Jordan_U> Yuri6037: https://code.launchpad.net/unity
[23:50] <VoidPlays> hi
[23:50] <reisio> hi void
[23:51] <Yuri6037> Ok thanks
[23:53] <Yuri6037> Apparently unity is c++
[23:55] <petrrms> where can I download 15.10?
[23:55] <reisio> Yuri6037: that'd make sense, as C++ is what amateurs choose :p
[23:55] <reisio> petrrms: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+cdmirrors
[23:56] <petrrms> where do I download the iso?
[23:56] <petrrms> v
[23:56] <petrrms> http://ubuntu.qualitynet.net/releases/15.04/
[23:56] <petrrms> on this page, it does not have any iso
[23:57] <Jordan_U> petrrms: Why not go with 16.04 LTS?
[23:57] <petrrms> I cant instal macbuntu
[23:57] <petrrms> Jordan_U:
[23:59] <petrrms> Jordan_U: I am trying to install a Yosemite OSX theme on Ubuntu, is it possible with 16?
[23:59] <Jordan_U> petrrms: I have no idea.
[23:59] <edubuntuuser2017> Hello, I am trying to get a DVD to play on Edubuntu, but it's not working. Does anyone know if it is easier to get it working on Ubuntu or would Edubuntu be using the same files for this to work?